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ITT: Your textbook

>> No.495637
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current

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this summer

>> No.495659

Textbooks suck.
Go learn some real Japanese, not that tourist shit.

>> No.495676

>>495659
have fun not having any structural knowledge. Where else do you expect to learn grammar etc. From a native speaker, maybe, but you're not going to pick it up like little kids pick up their first language.

>> No.495683

Hey, what the name of that audio guy? Not Pimsleur, the other one... Mark something right?

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I am sadly at the point where no grammar textbook can't be of help anymore.

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>> No.495721

>I am sadly at the point where no grammar textbook can't be of help anymore.
>no textbook can't be of help
>double negative

so you're saying any textbook you pick up is bound to be of use?

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I never leave my house without my trusty companion.

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I am lurnding like real japanese kids do!

>> No.495747

>>495705
and yet the actual spoken language is still incomprehensible?

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Whats a textbook?

>> No.495795

>>495747
by the way, i'm not being a smartass or anything when I say that. I, actually, am just finishing up University in a few weeks, and I decided to gauge my progress. I went and listened to Pimsleur's 3rd CD (most advanced apparently) and it all made sense to me. I felt smart. Then I turned on Gaki no Tsukai and felt like a dumass again.

Just goes to show that learning from a textbook gives you a good structure, but still wont make you fluent.

>> No.495798

>>495787
an online book

>> No.495802

>>495747
Bar technical words and their freaking speed it's going ok. I just wish I had been more serious with kanji when I still had some grammar to learn, as going through textbooks is quite boring now and real books do really hurt...

>>495721
Try to imagine I am American, or something like that.

>> No.495810

>>495798
>a downloadable book
fix'd

>> No.495824

>>495795
Yeah, I'm quite the same with tv shows and such. Vocabulary (which grows mainly while reading, hence kanji learning), hearing practice and if possible talking practice are now the only things to do.

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Did this at university.

Now though I check some at >>495637 to see what is different, if anything.

>>495715

That one was always tempting. But the cost is a bit high, and also I probably (hopefully) already know most of the Kanji.

Also, what is this one? >>495731

>> No.495836

>>495824
I feel like I'm at this stage, but the weird part of it is that there's probably a lot of grammar that I have yet to learn.

Next year (after my summer classes) the class drops from 6 credits a semester down to 4 credits, so basically it's all about vocab/speaking/hearing/reading from then on. Then, 4th year is just reading books/writing essays etc. Like an english class

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Had this one and >>495641 . Pretty good book. Nowadays after I graduated I peruse japanesepod101.com, which I think is a great resource to listen to on the way to work.

>> No.496250

I'm taking Japanese 1 in the fall, and apparently I will be using Genki. This makes me happy because its so much cheaper than a regular college book.

>> No.496280

>>495787
GoogleのEnglish<=>Japanese機械翻訳は、
俺が知ってるあらゆるポータルサイトの中で最も性能が悪いから、
できるだけ使わないほうがいい。

>> No.496288

>>495630

that's the book we use.

god damn does it make me rage.

Why does it suck SO BADLY?

>> No.496290

Nakama 1 -> Nakama 2 -> Shin Nihongo no Kiso 2 -> Nihongo o Hanasou!

Intermediate, wishing my college offered more.

>> No.496574

we use Nakama as well, Im in JP2002 ATM and we only covered up to Vol2 chp4.

>> No.496594

>>496288
Why do you think it sucks?

>> No.496725

>>496288
I have the same book too.
It's dry, but it's good for basic stuff; my teacher (who is Japanese herself) rarely follows the lesson plans to a T anyway, so it's all good

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>> No.496743

For the person who posted a link to the 2001.Kanji.Odyssey resource yesterday...

I looked at the samples but couldn't find a single example sentence. Could anyone clear this up? (thinking about buying the set)

>> No.496766

>>495836
Believe me, there is. Tons of shit to learn, especially idiomatic phrases that are less common but still find their way into mainstream usage. Also, don't forget to learn some classical Japanese as well (some of it is still used to give texts more flavor)

>> No.496787

>>496743
You probably mean me, since I posted about it yesterday. (What a coincidence)
To get to the examples go there: http://www.coscom.co.jp/ebook/2001kanji/diskdata/vol2-top.html and click on Level 1, or 2 (3 has no example sentences). Then click on one of the "Free sample" groups and again on the Kanji you want to see the example sentences of. On the top of the page you will see "Examples 1 2 3". Just click on one of those to get to the example sentences.
There aren't too many free examples though, but you'll get the idea of what it's about.

>> No.496807

>>496787
Ahh, thanks so much; I feel like an idiot for not noticing that earlier. Cheers, I guess I'll put my order in right now.

>> No.496846

My school uses same series, OP, though I'm still on part I. I think it does a pretty good job explaining things, though the romanization is odd.

>> No.496873

>>496807
I have to warn you about the CD version though.
It's a great resource and I bought it instead of the books, so don't get me wrong, but it uses pictures instead of actual text, so if you want to copy&paste the example sentences into a srs you're out of luck, unless you use Anki or something else that supports pictures.
I don't think it's much of a problem since typing it up helps me remember it better, but I thought I'd let you know before you buy it.

>> No.496964

>>496873
Not a problem at all; I don't mind typing up sentences. Going by those examples, they don't seem to be too long anyway.

>> No.496967

>>495630
i use the same book, however i learn more japanese from reading hentai manga

>> No.497000

ITT level 60 weeaboo's

>> No.497038

>>496725
My 先生（that's Japanese for teacher! ^___^ :) +D) follows the book exactly. Every conversation/drill is covered and acted out in class.

>> No.497114

The textbook we used in high school when I first started using was that "Adventures in Japanese" one.

Nowadays I'm not using a textbook but studying independently from a variety of sources; most importantly I'm practicing by exchanging letters with a penpal in Hiroshima, and by translating texts back and forth.

>> No.497157

>>497114
Make any nuke jokes?

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>> No.497252

>>497038
Poor, wretched thing

>> No.497263

>>497114

You... wouldn't happen to have some kind of link to a penpal site or something, would you?

>> No.497275

>>497252
I dunno I don't think it's too bad...

>> No.497380

>>497190

Currently using this book. I got about 5 or 6 more chapters left until it's done. Not sure what to move on to afterwards. It's kinda like Genki I and II condensed into one book.

>> No.497391

>>497275
Yeah, I was just joking. It's not too bad at all - having a competent teacher who can answer all of your grammar questions, etc is more important though IMO

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>> No.497461

I transferred Unis so I went from using Genki to Structural Functional Japanese. Structural Functional is so fucking horrible, and whether Genki is great or not, Structural Functional makes it look like a godsend. I'm going to buy Genki II just so that when I need to learn a grammar pattern for class I can get its name from the chapter we're in, look it up and Genki and study it there.

>> No.499139

>>497461

Sad to hear that. (Since I had Situation Functional Japanese as my books). But since I downloaded Genki and have been meaning to look it through I hope I'll get some knowledge out of it.

My biggest problem is almost always my sucktastic memory. I've even had moments of "oh, what was ja arimasen for grammar thing again?" just to go "Awww, negation of desu? I should have remembered that..."

>> No.499197

>>495630
Same textbook, where do you go to school?

>> No.499213

>>495641

this book is good. Use it.

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>> No.499231

Whoever mentioned that they have "Adventures in Japanese" textbook here, you are not alone.

It's alright (the pics help), but w/o my teacher's help, I'll be damned if I know where to start.

>> No.499235

>>497461
>Structural Functional Japanese

http://www.colorado.edu/ealld/Syllabi/jpns5060.htm

the one mentioned here? or did you mean "situational" instead of "structural"?

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>>495630
Worst. Textbook. Ever.

The Yale romanization makes the examples unnecessarily hard to read.

>>496288
Our university dropped these last year. I believe they currenty use Mina no Nihongo for the bachelor level.

Pic related, two books I use for self study (mainly rehearsal and fine-tuning of grammar I have already learned) of grammatical constructs.

>> No.499358

>>499235
Yeah, my bad, it's this one: >>495829
Terrible ass book either way you slice it. It doesn't present the grammar forms in any logical order, kind of introduces everything at once in the first few chapters and then forgets it told you about them, doesn't explain them, but then ten chapters later suddenly they're back as if they had actually explained it the first time around (you know, back when you were still struggling with kana).

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ending my 3rd year at my university and we still havent finished the kanji book...

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