Is it even possible to beat Touhou on normal modo? Been playing Embodiment of Scarlet Devil on normal(Began on normal and never played easy), havn't get much further than China without using continues... And don't go "normal is for second graders". I'm a beginner, dammit. :(

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Anonymous Mon Mar 29 16:47:58 2010 No.4758721 [Reply] [Original]

Is it even possible to beat Touhou on normal modo? Been playing Embodiment of Scarlet Devil on normal(Began on normal and never played easy), havn't get much further than China without using continues...

And don't go "normal is for second graders". I'm a beginner, dammit. :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 16:48:58 2010 No.4758723 It just takes practice, hang in there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 16:49:58 2010 No.4758729 File: 40 KB, 640x480, eosd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] After one month, use practice mode.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 16:50:58 2010 No.4758736 Just keep playing and trying your best. Touhou is not easy and requires practice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 16:52:58 2010 No.4758747 You can watch replays too.

Anonymous Mon Mar 29 16:55:58 2010 No.4758759
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Yes, it's very possible.
To be fair though, you ARE playing what is arguably one of the harder Touhou games...
And if you think China was hard, get ready to rage at Patchy's lasers and Sakuya's knifes in your ass.

It's been said time and time again, but it really can't be stressed enough...The only real way to get better with this game is practice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 16:55:58 2010 No.4758765 Play Shoot The Bullet for a while, hone your skills on spell cards and different pattern styles without all the fairies inbetween.

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 16:57:58 2010 No.4758778 >>4758759 >you ARE playing what is arguably one of the harder Touhou games... what the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 16:58:58 2010 No.4758783 >>4758778 EoSD doesn't show you your hitbox.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 16:59:58 2010 No.4758787 don't tell me you guys play EoSD with hitbox

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 16:59:58 2010 No.4758788 >>4758783 so?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:00:58 2010 No.4758794 >>4758788 So, if it's your first game, it's hard for you to figure out where you can and can not go in order to avoid getting hit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:00:58 2010 No.4758796 File: 20 KB, 296x345, 1266441456269.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cirno rapes you, OP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:01:58 2010 No.4758804 >>4758783 That doesn't necessarily make it harder. In my opinion, EoSD is often considered one of the hardest games because of how many random patterns it has (and maybe because of how sluggish Reimu feels there).

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:01:58 2010 No.4758806 >>4758778 >implying it isn't

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:02:58 2010 No.4758820 >>4758783 So get the texture patch.

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 17:02:58 2010 No.4758817 >>4758794 that doesnt make it hard >>4758806 I stated it

Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:02:58 2010 No.4758815

>>4758778
>Arguably
>One of
Note how I didn't say that is was the God tier of hard modo for touhou games, I just stressed that it's a pretty hard game compared to others...More so, if you're just starting to get into the Touhou games.

Title for hardest game in my opinion goes to UFFFFFFFFFFFO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:03:58 2010 No.4758828 File: 347 KB, 1250x1425, Nazrinsmirk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4758817 No you didn't, all you said was >what the fuck? Which implies it.

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 17:04:58 2010 No.4758836 >>4758815 I know what you meant but since we are talking about normal mode what the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:05:58 2010 No.4758846 >>4758828 you aren't clever, enjoy being bad at the easiest touhou game

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:06:58 2010 No.4758854 File: 43 KB, 224x203, Beato Troll.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4758846 Poor form. Try being less obvious next time.

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 17:06:58 2010 No.4758862 >>4758828 you must be pretty bad if you find eosd normal difficult

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:07:58 2010 No.4758869 >>4758862 I don't. When did I say anything about normal mode?

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 17:08:58 2010 No.4758877 >>4758869 we are talking about normal mode since the op is playing on normal mode

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:09:58 2010 No.4758882 File: 77 KB, 803x450, remilia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4758846 >Implying EoSD is easier than IN Ok, you're trying too hard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:09:58 2010 No.4758888 >>4758877 All you said was that EoSD was not one of the harder touhou games, which is wrong. You didn't mention normal mode.

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 17:10:58 2010 No.4758896 >>4758888 we were talking about normal mode since the start stop being a smartass trying to save face

>>	Bern !FAGetAU5R2 Mon Mar 29 17:11:58 2010 No.4758903 >>4758721 China's easy. Patchy's a bitch.

Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:12:58 2010 No.4758909

OP here.

Hmm, good point. I'll try finding some replay videos, and playing practice mode might work.(To be fair, all I've done is go "normal mode" all the friggin' time.) Using Marissa, should I be using Reimu?

Yes. Cirno's attack is hard and I should get better at dodging it.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Mar 29 17:12:58 2010 No.4758911 honestly, play IN

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 17:13:58 2010 No.4758917 >>4758909 use marisa reimu will be a bite in your ass against flan

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:14:58 2010 No.4758919 >>4758909 You know where the hitbox is?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:17:58 2010 No.4758941 >>4758909 It depends...sort of. Marissa Broken is better at clearing bosses with her fuckpowerful shot and bomb while Reimu A can make stages easier with homing shots.

Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:18:58 2010 No.4758949

Well, no. I've heard rumors of it appearing when the slow mode button is used, and I've seen someone mention a "texture patch" in this thread, but that's about everything.

Does anybody know where to find this magical texture patch? Googled it, no results.

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 17:19:58 2010 No.4758957 >>4758949 don't use it it will make you weak

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:19:58 2010 No.4758958 BTW, this is OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:20:58 2010 No.4758965 I'm better off using Marissa, then. :) Not got much of a problem with in-between stages so far.

>>	Suigin !uMakai4iFA Mon Mar 29 17:21:58 2010 No.4758970 >>4758965 please don't use smilies on /jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:22:58 2010 No.4758975 I would be a beginner all over again in order to get raped by Cirno

>>	Bern !FAGetAU5R2 Mon Mar 29 17:23:58 2010 No.4758984 >>4758957 The texture patch or focus mode?

Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:23:58 2010 No.4758985

Yes, don't use it, for the hitbox location:
>The hit box for your character is quite small in comparison to your on-screen sprite, approximately only 5 pixels by 5 pixels in size. It is not clearly marked on the sprite, but it is possible to approximate its location well by looking at the white part of Reimu's clothes just above her red skirt, or the center of Marisa's pink ribbon on her back.
From Touhou wikia

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:25:58 2010 No.4758995 File: 70 KB, 1000x1000, Beatorich trollin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4758896 I'm not trying to save face. You said nothing about normal mode. Now who's the smartass trying to save face, Suigin?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:28:58 2010 No.4759023 > :( kill yourself.

Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:32:58 2010 No.4759050

EoSD is easy once you get better at dodging in general with Marisa. By a good margin, in fact. She makes almost all of the bosses' attacks jokes, especially Flandre's.

Personally, UFO/SA are the hardest, UFO only because of the UFO gimmick being a pain for focused shots and that SA's bombs all have serious drawbacks.

Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:34:58 2010 No.4759076

>>4759050

They're not particularly hard in terms of dodging, though. I've only really been playing with MarisaC and ReimuB, but I get along fine. I'm still not sure what ReimuA's bomb is actually supposed to do in SA, though...

Oh, and I absolutely hate the little gimmicky UFO's. Let's hope ZUN never does any shit like that again.

Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:43:58 2010 No.4759132

>>4758759
> Patchy's lasers
Really? I'll admit that I'm currently better than OP, as I'm at least able to get past China without using continues, but I've mainly encountered trouble with Patchy's later spell cards. Her non-directional lasers are fairly easy to handle in comparison.

Bosses Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:50:38 2010 No.4759170 [DELETED]

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>>4758721 Got me thinking.
For /jp/, who is the easiest boss for each stage?
Who is the hardest?

For me inb4 everyone says there are no hard stage 1 bosses:

Easiest Stage 1 Boss - Wriggle
Hardest Stage 1 Boss - Nazrin

Easiest Stage 2 Boss - Mystia
Hardest Stage 2 Boss - Parsee

Easiest Stage 3 Boss - Nitori
Hardest Stage 3 Boss - Yuugi

Easiest Stage 4 Boss - Marisa
Hardest Stage 4 Boss - Prismrivers

Easiest Stage 5 Boss - Reisen
Hardest Stage 5 Boss - Orin

Easiest Stage 6 Boss - Kaguya
Hardest Stage 6 Boss - Byakuren

(optional)
Easiest EX Stage Boss - Mokou
Hardest EX Stage Boss - Koishi (by default as she's the only extra boss I can't even get to. I keep getting destroyed by Sanae)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:51:58 2010 No.4759178 >>4759132 I can dodge her spell cards fine, but her stupid lasers that she shoots while shooting those big bullets catch me a lot. The lasers always move a little bit farther than I anticipate and kill me right as they disappear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:55:58 2010 No.4759197 >>4759178 Are we talking normal or harder? Because on normal, the lasers seem to lose their hitboxes just before they completely vanish, so I've found that it's okay to move close to them as they start to vanish.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 17:59:58 2010 No.4759217 >EoSD normal >hard in any way god damnit /jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 29 18:06:58 2010 No.4759260 >>4759197 Normal. I guess they ram into me right before the hitboxes disappear.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 30 04:41:58 2010 No.4763485 File: 72 KB, 450x450, hong-meiling-kick-motion.1234988207727.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 30 04:42:58 2010 No.4763488 File: 90 KB, 432x728, Hong Meiling, the name is Hong Meiling!.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4758721 It's not that hard to get her name right you jerk.

>>	Anonymous2007 !7AnImelIIg Tue Mar 30 04:43:58 2010 No.4763496 >>4763488 It is, now

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 30 04:44:58 2010 No.4763506 And the award for most elitist board goes to:

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 30 04:45:58 2010 No.4763508 >>4758721 after a week I was able to get to stage 4 without continues. you can do the same Anon. just practice. this was years ago, I can now 1CC the game on lunatic.

Anonymous Tue Mar 30 04:45:58 2010 No.4763510
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yes OP, you just need to go through few grades of developement. in the end, you stop seeing bullets and start seeing free movement area and patterns instead.

PROTIP:
two types of bullets: patterned and seeking. latter is easier to dodge.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 30 04:46:58 2010 No.4763516 >>4758788 It also doesn't shower you with lives and bombs like the other games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 30 04:55:58 2010 No.4763554 I just beat Eosd normal with Marisa A today. Woohoo. Course I used something like 15 bombs. Oh well.

Anonymous Tue Mar 30 04:56:58 2010 No.4763560

I'm rather proficient in EoSD, having 1CC'd it with ReimuA and MarisaB, but China still gives me trouble with Colorful rain and Typhoon. for some odd reason, I just refuse to bomb the shit out of her random attacks so I end up dying, rageing and quitting.

China is easier on Hard, to be honest. less random but more shit flying around.

>>	Anonymous2007 !7AnImelIIg Tue Mar 30 04:58:58 2010 No.4763564 File: 121 KB, 748x993, sirimeri.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wish to fuck Hong Meiling~

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