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4756580 No.4756580 [Reply] [Original]

Is there any way to cheat in any of the Touhou games?

Like, has someone made a hack for infinite lives?

Yeah, I'll sink to that level. I don't give a damn.

>> No.4756583

If you can't beat it with standard max lives, you need to play something else.

>> No.4756584

http://www.cheatengine.org/

Have fun.

>> No.4756586

use artmoney

>> No.4756590

>>4756584
/thread

>> No.4756596

You disgrace us all, OP. Remove yourself from this board.

>> No.4756600

Why?

I'm not going to tell you to stop or anything, since it doesn't affect me, but why?

Do you want to see the endings, or try out difficulty-specific spellcards?

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>>4756596
Used wrong image before.

>> No.4756608

>>4756600

The lattermost, actually. I want to see all the cards on Lunatic and in Extra.

And not just replays.

>> No.4756625
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>>4756608

You want to see them, but replays aren't good enough?

OP, I am disappoint

>> No.4756633

if i could combine every single reacting mage into one and post it in this thread i would

>> No.4756657

>>4756584

My head exploded.

I could never be a programmer.

>> No.4756659

You disgust me, OP.

>> No.4756669

For every person berating OP there are ten people who will download whatever turns up.

>> No.4756677

>>4756657
It's not programming, there are some cheat tables here. You just open them up in CheatEngine, run the game, and set the values.http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=da8dd5aa510d17bf95af63b7d44918aaeebc2a6a75bbc5be

I won't judge you for cheating, because I've done it before. Let me tell you OP, it gets old real quick, you should just play normally and enjoy the satisfaction of unlocking everything yourself. I did that all through Double Spoiler, feels good man.

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>>4756580

>> No.4756712

>>4756677

Nah, I'm a person who enjoys games with no difficulty.

Damn near every game I've played on the SNES was Game Genie'd.

And after play Touhou for 2 years, I've kind of given up on my skill level suddenly rising dramatically and being able to get past stage 4 on Normal.

>> No.4756725

>>4756694
Christ, that looks complicated.

>> No.4756738

>>4756712
If that's the case, you shouldn't be playing Touhou at all. Find a different game.

>> No.4756743

>>4756725
Hi, we are the Master Race. The stuff that consolefags do/play are too simple for us and would bored us to tears.

>> No.4756746

What I would really like to see is a fast-forward feature during practice mode like when you're watching a replay.
It's so annoying to play through the stages (especially long ones) when you just want to fight/practice the boss already.

>> No.4756748

>>4756738

But I enjoy shmups.

Always have. I burned $10 at an arcade only getting past 3 of Raiden II.

Ah, when ya have to pay for continues.

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>>4756712
Why do people like you even exist?

>> No.4756754

>>4756746
That's a feature in some of the later games. Hold Ctrl down.

>> No.4756757

>>4756712
I hear the whole "X years" line fairly often, but no one says anything about the frequency. If you think you're gonna get good if you try one or two runs a week for two years, you deserve what you get. I started unable to get past stage 2 Easy about three years ago, and having given at least three honest attempts at 1ccing games every day I've now cleared the entire series on Hard and about half of it on Lunatic.

Time doesn't matter. Only dedication.

>> No.4756760

>>4756750

To play RTSes and RPGs, actually. I'm made for mass micromanagement, not reflex or ridiculously precise, minute movements.

>> No.4756763

>>4756746
So Spell Practice or something?

>> No.4756770 [DELETED] 

>>4756757

I tried playing Imperishable Night on Normal, 3-10 times a day for two weeks.

Never got past Marisa without continues. And I'd have to use another continue as I get my face kicked in through stage 5, so I never really get to progress to stage 6 as my time runs out from burning two hours.

>> No.4756778

Cheat engine has a really good tutorial. Don't worry about it looking complicated; it's not difficult at all.

>> No.4756786

>>4756763
Well, more like a boss practice mode.
Even ports of arcade shmups let you practice bosses.

>> No.4756790
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JESUS PARKOURING CHRIST

GO KILL YOURSELF

>> No.4756796

STOP FUCKING HELPING HIM

>> No.4756797

>>4756754
I misread, my bad.

>>4756786
Play through the damned stage. Or just play IN which lets you play spellcard practice mode.

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>>4756790
>>4756796
I don't really see the big deal. It doesn't really affect anyone else besides him, and it's not really as annoying as "* is a slut" as nauseum.

>>4756770
Really though, you just might be approaching the game incorrectly. The "normal games" are a lot less forgiving than StB in the way that you can't just brute rush a card and hope you get lucky, because you'll have to keep doing that card if you want to get to the later stages. Are you sure you're using your bombs to increase your survivability?

Have you tried following diagrams like these? If you can understand them, then you can probably keep following them until you beat a boss. And if you can do that, then you can probably beat the game unaided at some point.

>> No.4756845

OP is a slut.

>> No.4756849

>>4756840
IMO, even though it's kind of like cheating, following charts like this still gives quite a bit more satisfaction than cheating. OP you should consider this

>> No.4756861

>>4756840

>Really though, you just might be approaching the game incorrectly

Can't say my hands were made for it.

>Are you sure you're using your bombs to increase your survivability?

I can never bomb correctly, period. Either I bomb when I generally don't need to or don't bomb fast enough. 95% of my deaths are out-of-the-blue, so don't say just bomb at any time I feel nervous (as I run out of bombs in two cards if I would).

>Have you tried following diagrams like these?

My memory means I'd have to constantly pause, draw it up, study it for the exact place I am, double check, and start again.
Immediately dying because pausing at any point throws me off and generally sends me spiraling into a bullet.

Really, I don't have a 'gamers honor' or anything. I enjoy a game, even if it has no difficulty.

>> No.4756867

>>4756861

What's more, cheat engine is confusing me. I try to freeze the losing-lives flag, and whenever I die the game immediately crashes. I might take a while to troubleshoot through this.

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>>4756633
Here is an reaction mage for you sig.

>> No.4756879

>>4756840
To me, it's far worse that "X is a slut" retardation and such. Why is that though?

Because I don't care about the fandom's memes. Yeah, believe it or not, I actually care about the games more, why shouldn't I get angry when someone shits up the game fanbase this boldly?

Plus, apparently he's too much of a monkey to even use cheats. Thus, he doesn't deserve them.

>> No.4756881

>>4756861
Play (any game) and post your replay here.

>> No.4756890

>>4756873
thanks for this

>> No.4756891

>>4756580
Doesn't Touhou have a continue system?

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>>4756861
>>4756867
Just stop playing whatsoever and switch to an easier type of recreation.

Like mud.

>> No.4756893

>>4756879
Shits up the game fanbase? He isn't doing anything of the sort. He just made one thread asking for help, and he'll leave and never be heard from again when this is done.

"* is a slut" on the other hand will be pissing me off for fucking years.

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>>4756890
No problem.

Oh also one thing ive realized that touhou is really easy to play when you lower the speed a bit.

You people are like /v/, if it aint perfect you wont accept it, that behavior is bad for your health you know?

It doesnt matter as long as you have fun.

>> No.4756925

>>4756893
I don't see why you wouldn't ignore retarded people's retarded opinions, unless you are one of them.

>>4756905
No, we aren't like /v/, but the whole charm in Touhou lies in the fact that even though it's a silly, girly looking game, it has an actual difficulty ladder.

>> No.4756926

>>4756905
>Oh also one thing ive realized that touhou is really easy to play when you lower the speed a bit.
well, I do that when i first play on lunatic to make it easier for me to discover ways of beating spellcards (also for unlocking practice mode)
then after a few runs i set the speed back to normal

>> No.4756927

>>4756905
How is having to cheat through the entire game fun?

Might as well play a game where you press a big button and a message pops up saying "YOU WIN!".

>> No.4756936

Cheating through the game is necessary for some people to view the endings that ZUN selfishly keeps off the Internet.

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4756943

This is somewhat off topic, but the later Toohoo games (TH11-TH12.5, excluding 12.3) won't run properly at all. I always have to replace the dat, exe, and custom.exe and reinstall the patches. Every. Fucking. Time.
Like I said, I don't want to spam the board creating yet another TH thread, so what should I do?

>> No.4756946

>>4756905
The difference between your pic and OP is that OP got a 5 out of 100. It's quite a difference, you know.

>> No.4756957

>>4756925
So difficulty and lolis are the only selling point in this game?
>>4756927
Lets say you want to see what happens if you win for once, in that case wouldnt you cheat to see what happens. Its totally alright to cheat if you are motivated by curiosity and fun. Thats what games are all about, correct me if im wrong.
>>4756926
I did alot and i cant win even with joystick so instead of getting mad i slow the speed abit. Besides its not like im ever going to be in some touhou championship or anything so i dont need to keep my dodging skills so sharp.

>> No.4756959

>>4756957
but the game is pretty damn boring with slowdown
the pressure of dealing with tons of shit aimed at you trying to kill you and getting frustrated when you fuck up and lose is subarashi

>> No.4756962

>>4756748
>$10 to beat one game
it is not nice, not at all
I burned ~5€ when I beat metal slug 2

>> No.4756968

>>4756957
>So difficulty and lolis are the only selling point in this game?
And the music.
If you're going to cheat, you might as well just read doujins and listen to Touhou arrangements.

>> No.4756988

>>4756968
>you might as well just read doujins and listen to Touhou arrangements.
this is pretty much what I do
I just cant get myself to play the games on anything harder than normal.

>> No.4757006

>>4756959
B-but even bullets are shooting bullets at me, i cannot dodge it even if i bough some special joystick for playing touhou. Honestly im just pretty bad at dodging games and i hate to lose. Thats the exact reason why im playing tf2 and modern warfare 2, its pretty hard to loose in them.

Fuck, i should play shooter instead of this, people who cheat are obviously not wanted in here.
>>4756968
Oh yea music is awesome, but then again most of game music is. Touhou reminds me of some raiden game where you steered some ship and picked up some upgrades and shoot lasers adn stuff. Ill upload flash version of it on /f/. Doesnt have awesome music tough.

>> No.4757010

>>4756881

So I did this!

And boy, I'm amazed I skinned by Marisa with 2 lives to spare. I did way better than normal, in fact. And I haven't even played much today.

http://www.mediafire.com/?gjzyexdemwt

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>>4756879
Relax, I don't like cheating either, which is why we're trying to keep him from directly cheating by having infinite lives.

Even though using diagrams are basically using the answer key for a maze, and finding the path through the maze really is half the fun, being able to clear a spellcard CONSISTENTLY is also part of being able to feel victorious.

And like mentioned, "* is a slut" morons are both near incorrigible and prolific. With enough guidance, we can probably get this guy to at least clear the games without cheating.

>> No.4757018

Cheatengine...

Oh god nostalgia.

I remember using this shit to hack in Maple Story.

>> No.4757029

>>4757006
i used to be like you
but i eventually turned into some kind of masochist
>>4757012
please dont post that picture anymore

>> No.4757048

>>4757006
>tf2 and modern warfare 2, its pretty hard to loose in them
That's because you're playing against other casuals such as yourself

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>>4757029
You mean perfectionist right? You wont be happy until you defeat that popular game in hardest difficulty under hardest conditions, the showing everyone online you did.

Because masochist means that you want to inflict pain to touhou lolis. Or was that mahocist or something. I am confus.

>> No.4757069

>>4757063
Sadist means you like to deal the pain.

M is the opposite.

>> No.4757075

>>4757063
sadist=gets off to inflicting pain (im also kind of a sadist)
masochist=gets off to receiving pain
>You mean perfectionist right? You wont be happy until you defeat that popular game in hardest difficulty under hardest conditions, the showing everyone online you did.
not really, the harder the difficulty the more pressuring it is therefore the better

>> No.4757079

Easy mode is a cheat for touhou.

>> No.4757080

>>4757048
I am a casual gamer. I even want to buy wii so i could play bowling and stuff with this girl i like. We could dance and do weird shit with a dildo looking controller and not be socially awkward while doing it. If it does that its worth the money.

Anyway this aint /v/ so i have to warn you about this before that mod start cleaning and banning me again.

>> No.4757091

>>4757075
Well sug i really like talking to you and all but im planning to rewatch cromartine high.

See you all later and to OP, you really shouldnt share your experience about touhou with /jp/, well except you are perfect in it and you only want to brag about it.

>> No.4757103

PEOPLE ONLY PLAY GAMES ON DIFFICULTIES HARDER THAN I CAN BEAT TO BRAG ABOUT IT

>> No.4757166

>>4757010
I didn't watch the whole thing, but...

You're doing fine from the beginning to Stage 3, save a few mistakes, but everyone makes those. However, I would definitely move up a bit more, because there's quite a few times where you were probably feeling a whole lot of pressure you didn't need because you were hugging the bottom. Additionally, don't be afraid to unfocus during bosses for a quick dodge. You'll find that one of your main ways of dodging a bullet you didn't notice isn't trying to backup and navigate around it focused, but to simply hold a direction, let go of shift, and pressing it right away again.

From then on, seems like you just need to practice Keine's cards more.

In Stage 4, it becomes definitely apparent that you're moving around WAY too much, and your streaming is incredibly inefficient. Move little to dodge a lot. Don't forget human form is used to kill slaves. There's a lot of times in Marisa where you've started to hug the bottom completely. If you know you're going to go through a gap, grow some balls and move up through it.

Seems like you have a problem dodging random bullets. Hit up some PoFV.

That's all the advice I have so far. There's some more, but I feel like shit because I'm lactose intolerant, and I ate cereal and milk because I had nothing else to eat.

You seem like you've got the basics. It's just keeping it cool as you move up.

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>>4757010
I didn't watch the whole thing, but...

You're doing fine from the beginning to Stage 3, save a few mistakes, but everyone makes those. However, I would definitely move up a bit more, because there's quite a few times where you were probably feeling a whole lot of pressure you didn't need because you were hugging the bottom. Additionally, don't be afraid to unfocus during bosses for a quick dodge. You'll find that one of your main ways of dodging a bullet you didn't notice isn't trying to backup and navigate around it focused, but to simply hold a direction, let go of shift, and pressing it right away again.

From then on, seems like you just need to practice Keine's cards more.

In Stage 4, it becomes definitely apparent that you're moving around WAY too much, and your streaming is incredibly inefficient. Move little to dodge a lot. Don't forget human form is used to kill slaves. There's a lot of times in Marisa where you've started to hug the bottom completely. If you know you're going to go through a gap, grow some balls and move up through it.

Seems like you have a problem dodging random bullets. Hit up some PoFV.

Have you played DS? In my opinion, the first 5 levels give a VERY good feel to strengthen the basics. StB helps a lot too. For you, I would recommend 3-1, 3-3, 3-5, 3-6, 5-1, and 5-5.

ESPECIALLY 5-5.

You seem like you've got the basics. It's just keeping it cool as you move up.

That's all the advice I have so far. There's some more, but I feel like shit because I'm lactose intolerant, and I ate cereal and milk because I had nothing else to eat.

>> No.4757180

>>4757166

Well, to answer the last question first, when I first tried it, I couldn't even get past the first spellcard of StB. I've not tried Double Spoiler.

Furthermore, I didn't even make this thread for touhou tips. I'm not particularly interested in getting great at it. I just want to see more of it, having being playing it for so long and not doing that well at all.

Furthermore, I've noticed that my first run of the day is always my best, and consecutive runs are always considerably inferior.

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>>4757170
Also forgot to mention:

If you want to get anything out of DS and StB practice, MAKE SURE YOU CAN BEAT THE CARDS CONSISTENTLY.

Getting lucky twice in a row isn't good enough!

>> No.4757191

>>4757170
Um... you do realize you don't need milk to eat cereal, right? I eat it dry all the time.

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>>4757180
Well, so much for that then.

I'll leave you to the wolves now.

>> No.4757201

>>4757191
I hate how dry cereal feels, so I just eat it with milk and shit myself to death about 30 minutes later.

Yes, I'm fucking stupid.

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>>4757193

Hey, I never asked for tips. I'd make a thread for HowTo:be a toupro.

I just want to take it easy while I try to dodge manic bullets and not get bummed by a game over at the height of my fun.

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Some somebody say lactose intolerance?

>> No.4757242

Just about any problems you'll have with bullets hell games come down to the following:

1: Not paying attention to bullets. Pay attention to their direction, speed and any patterns they're creating and move accordingly. Is a bullet aimed at you? You only have to tap a direction to dodge it. Erratic movements will end up killing you.

2: Not bombing when threatened. Bomb whenever you feel you can't handle it, better to last longer and see what you'll be up against later on.

3: Hugging the very bottom. You have an entire play area to your disposal and you should always try to at least make use of half of it.

4: Trying to collect every single dropped item. Either let them come to you, or collect them if you know it's safe too. Only start collecting every item you can when you're comfortable with the stage.

It's not that you can't do it, it's just that you're not realising what's wrong and don't want to improve. Are you born good at anything? Fuck no; you only get better by pushing yourself.

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>Hey, I never asked for tips.
Too late.
You move too much. You need to practice your tapping.
Go into focused and press the direction button as FAST AS POSSIBLE. You shouldn't move more than a few pixels. In the replay, you nearly move a character sprite length with a single tap. You can't dodge bullets like that.

The best advice I can give to you is to stop playing Imperishable Night. The focus/unfocus switching to kill familiars obviously isn't one of your good points.
Other than (DS and StB), if you want to keep it Touhou, play SA. That one will teach you streaming and bullet control. You also don't need to move to the collection point because when you grazed (streamed) enough, the items will be auto-collected.

>> No.4757307

>>4756694
Could you post a small summary of all steps to that point for me?

>> No.4757311

>>4757307
No. Either you know how to cheat or try by yourself. Mouthfeeding you is too much.

>> No.4757316

play dodonpachi

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>>4757270

I'm amused by the tips and will keep them in mind (particularly killing Familiars, which I barely even acknowledge as they usually take too much effort for it for me), but it's still not what I made the thread about.

>> No.4757339

>>4756927
http://www.bj0rn2re.net/filer/Flash/ptb.swf

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>>4757321
Nobody cares.
You came to /jp/ for advice, that is, you had the actual BALLS to come to /jp/ for advice and now you will face the consequences and finish at least IN on Normal by yourself.

>> No.4757349

>>4757339
OH MY GOD HOW DO I PASS HARD MODE?

I MEAN OK, EASY HAS THAT HELPFUL MESSAGE, BUT HARD? GODDAYMN MAN!

>> No.4757356 [DELETED] 

>>4757339
Loaded, clicked hard, pressed button, won, closed.

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>>4757340

I didn't come to /jp/ for advice, though. I came to /jp/ for information on a(n illegal) mechanic.

I haven't even asked how to operate the Cheat Engine like >>4757307, I've been troubleshooting. All I've managed to do is make the game crash 12 different ways messing with the wrong data, or the right data wrong.

>> No.4757365

>>4757358
Ganbatte. You'll learn cheat engine eventually!

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>>4757358
Again, nobody cares.
The tips that guy gave you are enough to save you enough lives to bombspam all your way to Eirin. Go try it, it won't hurt your cheater pride.

>> No.4757393

>>4757358
use artmoney

>> No.4757411

>>4757358
All that time you're wasting on trying to operate a cheat engine could have been used to beat the game two times over.

>> No.4757416

>>4757242
Not the op, but:
1. I can't handle too much bullets, especially if they fly from the different directions under weird angles, e.g. Marisa's 1 card in IN.

2. I always try to dodge all the patterns until the very end if they seem passable (and in most cases, they do) and when I finally fail at that I can't make it to bomb.

3. 4. Flying around, trying to collect all in most cases only get me killed.

>> No.4757425

>>4757416
Use more bombs and hold shift for focused movement.

>> No.4757426

>>4757411
Cheat engine is a wonderful tool that has far more applications than beating a touhou game twice. It's well worth learning to use.

>> No.4757437

>>4757416
>trying to collect all in most cases only get me killed.

Which is why I'm telling you not to do it.

A lot of the bullets are just fodder that you can usually ignore. The ones that should take your immediate attention are the ones accelerating towards you and the ones travelling around you.

At least you've managed to identify a few of your problems - that's the first step towards improving.

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>>4757426
Intriguing.

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Why we try to cheat in a really good game? Just sounds like crap and it makes you look lame!
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22113

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>>4757450

>implying Touhou is a really good game

>> No.4757470

>>4757460
He didn't just imply that, he outright said it.

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EASY MODO?
/thread

srsly OP you are a slut

>> No.4757574

>>4757311
I prefer learning by doing.

>> No.4757585

>>4757470
Besides, someone posted a link to relevant values already anyway. I just want to know how to get em manually in this case. Sure I'm too lazy to ready a tutorial, but whatever.

>> No.4758055

I can actually relate to wanting to cheat in a certain way.

For Touhou I've always wanted to practice spell cards as a pacifist and out-live the timers. DS and StB toss you out in the menu on deaths, which interrupts my practice. IN also toss you out as soon as you die. All others force you through the stage first on practice.

Now just a simple "start at boss with unlimited lives" mode would have been quite fun to practice dodging and patterns. Not that I really die on the levels, they'd just waste my time.

>> No.4762026

must you go there

>> No.4762043

I haxed you're touhous anus

>> No.4762048

>>4762043

That does not sound fun at all.

>> No.4762061

Shit OP I'm really disappoint

>> No.4762094

At least 50 of the posters/readers in this thread have downloaded and fiddle with Cheat Engine

>> No.4762097

I'm borderline intellectually retarded with no memory or SHMUP/Bullet Hell experience and even I managed to pull off a 1CC of PCB on Normal.

sure I bombed Yuyuko away, but it's still a victory

tip for op: suck less

>> No.4762106

>>4762097

Protip: if you used Slow Mode, IT DOESN'T COUNT

>> No.4762112

>>4762106

I don't know what slow mode is, so no.

And before you ask that second question, yes it was with 3 lives.

>> No.4762116

>>4762112

Slow mode is a function in PCB's options, and it's cheating.

>> No.4762121

>>4756580
have you tried the Konami code?
30 lives!

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