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I'm learning Japanese. My problem is that I'm shit-scared of being in a "class situation" on some course so I'm trying to learn it alone. I mean, I have friends who can help in a limited way but the idea of being in a classroom full of weeaboos/businessmen/quirky students just makes me feel sick to the fucking core. It's nervousness and hatred combined.

My question is, will I actually be able to learn this way? Ignoring the obvious point that if I'm too scared to go to a Japanese class, I'll probably be too scared to speak to a Japanese person if I ever get to Japan (or meet one here in England (far rarer here than in the US)).

>> No.469787

I'm also a hot Korean girl

>> No.469797

>I mean, I have friends who can help in a limited way but the idea of being in a classroom full of weeaboos/businessmen/quirky students just makes me feel sick to the fucking core.

Oh, you hikki

>> No.469799

Use the internets to your advantage. Skype is A+++++++++++++++++.

>> No.469800

1) learn the kanas somehow
2a) study http://www.guidetojapanese.org
2b) keep drilling those kanji, or reading piles of manga with furigana (readings indicated) in it
3) play japunese import games on the DS for practice.

This will get you to a stage where you can _read_ somewhat, but speaking will be like a three year old's. Which isn't bad if you spend less than three years learning it.

>> No.469806

Also your pronounciation will stink. This I cannot help you with. Just keep your mouth shut or something?

>> No.469808

>>469806
listen to drama CDs and watching anime won't cut it?

>> No.469814

>>469797
Half true. I socialise in a fairly good way (certainly to a degree that would undermine any claims of being a hikki) and hang out at clubs, pubs, bars, etc... But on the other hand I've never had a job and live off benefit. Set-up situations scare the shit out of me though - such as being asked to do something in front of a group of strangers (wedding speech, doing an impression of someone that I normally can do, charades or, of course, being in a lesson).

>> No.469824

Most people who are serious about learning can control themselves in a classroom environment. There is only one guy in my japanese class that is obnoxious and it's not because he's a weaboo. You also can't ask people if you can learn on your own because it depends on YOU. I studied a bit by myself but personally it's hard to keep myself motivated if i'm not given assignments so I'm taking a class now.

>> No.469817

>>469808

I am laughing.

>> No.469832

>>469799
How do I meet moon aliens on Skype?

>> No.469834

>>469808
You've certainly done your research.

>> No.469837

>>469824
I just wouldn't be able to walk into the room. I was kicked out of college because I didn't attend a critical exam. The fact is, I turned up on time but once I looked into the hall where everyone was, I panicked and ran away. It sounds pathetic just writing it down now, years later, but at the time it was the only course I seemed to be able to take.

>> No.469842

>>469808
Try watching WWII documentaries.

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I completely and entirely understand why you would absolutely despise being in a Japanese class. I happen to be in one at the moment, and unfortunately at my level there are no businessmen nor quirky students, just an organic mass of weeaboo faggotry. However, I believe a classroom setting is more beneficial towards learning a language simply because you are forced to learn the material and utilize it in reading, writing, and speaking much more often than if you were simply learning it on your own. Thus, you are given a firm foundation on the basics of the language and are able to make mistakes in an environment conductive to learning, rather than in Japan where they will kill you right on the spot. My advice to you would be to simply take the class if it is available and ignore the others if they happen to bother you.

>> No.469868
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Heisig vol1&2
Kanas
Alljapaneseallthetime
Pimsleur and the other dude...Mark I guess it was called.
Heroin
Rosetta Stone

If you give it 4/5 hours a day you'll pass 3or4 ok in 1,5-2 years, maybe 1.

You know the drill.

>> No.469859

>>469808
No. That's completely unlike the way that actual people pronounce japanese. Movies and TV series are essentially the same: standard language that occurs essentially nowhere else (outside writing).

This is actually the common case for many languages, i.e. that there's a "standard version" which all the media use, but ordinary people will have the spoken language with its own conventions.

>> No.469891

>>469817
>>469834
>>469842
>>469859

I'm not OP, I just thought about it

couldn't it at least give a hint to pronouncing some words if you've got the writing down?

I'm thinking about starting taking Japanese classes this summer, btw.

>> No.469919

If you live somewhere where someone gives private lessons, that's the way to go.

>> No.469924

OK, here's a less black and white question (since, logically, it's quite simply better to learn in a class), my friend is about to start a Japanese course.

The simple question is: Should I enrol on the same course as him, at the same place?

Why do I ask? Well, first of all he is the very definition of weeaboo faggot. Basically - and I'm not exaggerating - he's the ugliest fucker I've ever seen IRL. He stinks like shit and he must weight almost 280 pounds. He has a t-shirt proclaiming his love of hentai (actually using the word "hentai" itself). He's not an immature "baka neko-san" faggot but he's still painfully geeky - I swear to god himself - he'd make even the most failed of us in /jp/ look like Johnny fucking Depp. His eyes look out in opposite direction, for Christ's sake.

Point being, is it worth just getting over the innate FAIL of this son of a bitch and going to classes with him for the reason that it's better to have a friend around (I'm thinking purely technically for that point) OR is it better to just cut my ties with him and just go it alone in another class and maybe even come across as desirable to some of the weeaboo geek girls that may or may not be there?

Well that took longer to ask than I thought...

>> No.469949

>>469924
Take the same course, receive much better grades than him, brag to him about it, and give him the incentive to kill himself. There, you just learned Japanese and did the world a favor all at the same time.

>> No.469959

>>469891
Well yes. But then, anything can give a hint as to pronounciation. I suppose if the OP's ever studied other languages besides english...

I personally just transliterate the kanas in my head and then read out the result as though it were finnish with some additional transformations (like for じ and や,ゆ and よ) applied right before. This is also why I cannot give any advice with regard to pronounciation, since honestly I don't know jack shit about it.

>> No.469963

>>469924
You can make new friends in another class if you really dislike him as much as you appear to be.

>> No.469995

>>469924
I'd take another class - a good opportunity to make other friends

the worst case scenario is that you end up being "that guy who talks to _that_ guy"

>> No.469999

>>469963
It's hard to explain in text. I feel like I'd need to actually show you him... To show you us talking to each other. The best I can do is to say that he's a friend of a friend of a friend that I ended up getting closer to than I intended (in a non-sexual way, you understand) and now all my actual friends wonder why the fuck I hang out with him at all (as do I) but then my own personal geeky side (and my sensitive, almost fatherly side) feels sad at the idea of just telling him to fuck off (directly or "subtly").

>> No.470023

>>469999
I don't think many people could get themselves to tell one of their friends to fuck off.

I know I couldn't.

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I'm going to post pics of women in Japanese clothes... It seems almost related.

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Hmm... Almost all of them are NSFW...

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>> No.470112

>>469999
None of us know the relationship as well as you, so I suppose you'd just have to decide for yourself if you wish to take the class with him or not.

I just think that if you enjoy being his friend, you should screw what your other friends think-- take it with him. They are your friends, no one said you couldn't have more than one friend with varying interests. If you just enjoy being his friend out of what seems to be pity (and similar interests), I'd suggest that you stop.

>> No.470123

>>470112
It's strange getting mature advice on 4chan.

Wait... Are you a girl?

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>>470123

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>>470123

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>>470123
What's a girl?

>> No.470163

I should have known better. Still, maybe you're gay then.

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>>470163
Anything to get me closer to Marisa.

>> No.470180

>>470163
or maybe he's just a caring human being, an ideal for us all?

>> No.470184

>>469999

Like what that tripfag said, weigh out the differences.

Do you enjoy hanging out with this fatass?
Are you just hanging out with him out of pity?
Could it be both, but you're not sure?

Either way, you can just ignore him if you bothers you in class. You obviously want to take this class, don't let one person stop you.

>> No.470188

>>470180
ohyou.jpg

>> No.470394

>>470163
>>470123
We don't have to act like guys here. We don't have to act like girls, either. We don't have to act. We're anonymous. We can advise you to do whatever we wish we could actually do.

>> No.470634

>>470394
WE ARE LEGION
NEVAR FORGIVE
NEVAR FORGET XD

>> No.470738

>>470634
you tried to make a funny!

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