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4666390 No.4666390 [Reply] [Original]

I've figured it out guys, Momiji is just a tsundere.

>> No.4666393

I-it's not like I actually have a personality, o-or anything...

>> No.4666395

I been saying that all along, its the only way to save the relationship.
god damnit zun, god damnit.

>> No.4666400

Rie Kugimiya confirmed for Moiji's VA

>> No.4666403

>>4666395
The temporary falling-out idea seems pretty viable.

>> No.4666410 [DELETED] 
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Sure. You can go ahead and think that.

>> No.4666412

>>4666403
Nah. The description in double spoiler is long term.

>> No.4666415

>>4666410
Get out of here WoWfag.

>> No.4666422

>>4666412
Details. Gensokyo is best served covered in salt.

>> No.4666436

ZUN is a bastard. What next, Sakuya is an undercover vampire hunter?

>> No.4666445
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She's not Tsundere, she's just pissed off that there's some slut giving tengu a bad name.

Because she actually works hard being a guard, unlike a certain other touhou I won't mention the name of. because no one can be bothered remembering it anyway.

>> No.4666457

>>4666436
Sure, what else do you think a human might be doing in the vampire mansion?

>> No.4666458

>She's not Tsundere, she's just pissed off that there's some slut giving tengu a bad name.
Yes she still loves her. She's a tsundere.

>> No.4666459

>>4666436
I'm more worried about Nazrin and Shou.

>> No.4666464

>>4666436

Sakuya x Remi is 100 more popular than Aya x Momiji ever were. And backed up by ingame dialogues.

Aya x Momiji was 100% fanmade.

>> No.4666471

>>4666390
She's not tsundere, both her and Aya are going through rough times with the relationship.
You know how lovers quarrel from time to time? This is like it.

>> No.4666520

Is ZUN trolling the fanbase? Didn't he know the popular depiction of Momiji was the exact opposite of this?

Plus Aya and Momiji disliking each other lays the groundwork for the other major Aya pairing, with Reimu. Not only are the two act quite familiar with each other in sources like Bohemian Archive, but ZUN even made them partners in SA. For those of us who prefer shipping Reimu with other characters, this is an alarming development.

>> No.4666540

>>4666520
There was one doujin which shipped AyaxReimu.
Never again.

>> No.4666590

>>4666520
Wait. Reimu/Aya is a threat? To what, exactly?

No I am really curious.

>> No.4666686
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>shipping faggotry

>> No.4666703 [SPOILER] 
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>>4666540

I don't know about doujins, but in fanart where she's paired with anyone Reimu is definitely the most common after Momiji.

>>4666590

Marisa, Yukari, Sanae, Remilia, et. al.

>> No.4666710

Why do you even give a shit about some minor midboss furfaghou?

>> No.4666711
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>>4666520
Get your shipping right.

>> No.4666732
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>>4666710

Because at stage 4, even midbosses kick ass.

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I just hope Momiji's canon personality is nothing like Youmu's serious business personality. Youmu's personality is a turnoff. And apparently the fans agree with me. In popularity polls Youmu is usually at the bottom struggling to beat Letty.

Let's review, she has good spellcards, an above average character design, a relatively decent backstory, and on top of all of that decent theme music. Yet despite all of this, no one really loves her.

>> No.4666793

>>4666777
>Yet despite all of this, no one really loves her.
Besides Yuyutits.

>> No.4666837

>>4666777
I love youmu. Fuck off.

>> No.4666842

>>4666777
I must of hallucinated the massive amounts of yuyuko x youmu doujins I slogged through, then.

>> No.4666870

>>4666777
Where did she rank in the last popularity poll?

>> No.4666876

>>4666703
>>4666590
I agree.
Keep your filthy crowsluts off my pure shrine maiden.

>> No.4666903

>>4666777

Fuck you I love Youmu and I enjoy a girl with a serious attitude like that, a bossy little wife to whip me into shape~

>> No.4666958 [DELETED] 

>>4666870
In comparison to other stage bosses in PCB she's behind Yuyuko, Alice, and Yukari. Overall she did better this year. And in comparison to other stage 5 bosses she's behind most of them.

>> No.4666979

>>4666777
How is that Bizarro dimension going on, Anon?

>> No.4667022

>>4666777
>15)Konpaku Youmu
>47)Letty Whiterock

>> No.4667059 [DELETED] 

>>4667022
In comparison to other PCB stage bosses Youmu is usually 2nd or 3rd from the bottom. Cirno doesn't count because she debuted in EoSD. Also, compared to other stage 5 bosses she's fairly unpopular.

>> No.4667092

I love Youmu, and she came in at number 15 in the last poll: http://thwiki.web.fc2.com/vote7/result_char.html

>> No.4667139

>>4666958
She's only behind Sakuya and greentits. Which is a status shared by every single other character except for Reimu.

>> No.4667149

>>4667059
>Also, compared to other stage 5 bosses she's fairly unpopular.
http://www.gensokyo.org/thvote6/results_char_en.html
Only Sanae and Sakuya are higher.

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I feel this is related.

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>>4666520
For real? She's totally trying to keep out newspaper reporters, huh?
She must really hate Aya.
Well, her reporting style is so pushy, after all. I'm, like, so much more polite~

>> No.4667192
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Most recent poll

>> No.4667193

>>4666410
Who's this?

>> No.4667198

>>4666400
NO

I want Kugyu for Komachi!

>> No.4667210

>Deletes post
It is ok bro, we all make mistakes, just check your sources before speaking next time.

>> No.4667211

>>4666793
>>4666837
>>4666842
>>4666870
>>4666903
>>4666979
>>4667022
>>4667139
>>4667149
Wow, look at these crazy people talking to themselves. I think you guys should have a doctor take a look at that. This fanon vs canon thing is starting to get to your heads. Lay off the Touhou for a while.

>> No.4667218

>>4667211
Oh you.

>> No.4667222

>>4666459
They got fairly positive scoops

>> No.4667227
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>>4667192
>9: Mokou
>No Kaguya
I FIND THIS PLEASING

>> No.4667227,1 [INTERNAL] 

Hey Eksi. Erase these post I made. I don't want to have to live down this Arc moment.

>> No.4667295

>>4667211
>>crazy people talking to themselves.
>>people
>>talking to themselves

Either you mean "Talking to eachother" which is stating the obvious or "Same fag talking to himself" in which case you fail at english.

>> No.4667317

>>4667295
Hello grammer nazi.

>> No.4667327

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/S4666390

>Hey Eksi. Erase these post I made.

>> No.4667328

>>4667192
What were the poll rankings for Cirno and the moonbitches?

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>>4667198
This just in: Kugyuu voices everyone in the Touhou anime.

>> No.4667379

>>4667328
>Cirno
Cirno is a newcomer magnet.

>moonbitches
They're so far behind that they didn't make it into the top 20. No one likes IN; not even Nippon. It's a testament to how shitty IN was. That's what happens when you pander to casuals. Mokou is the only noteworthy character from IN.

>> No.4667382

>>4667367
TOUHOU ANIME JUST GOT GOOD!

>> No.4667399

>>4667379
Moonbitches as in the SSiB bitches.
And IN is fine.

>> No.4667411

>>4667379
Well, I'd say that IN pandered to casuals mainly by making several characters they like playable. Only elite Touhou fans can appreciate the quality of its bosses, apparently.

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>>4667192
I have no idea how Mokou and Yuka are so high on the list. They always struck me as niche characters since their games weren't too popular to begin with. That said, I like both of them.

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4667449

>shipping faggotry and faggotry in general

You guys disgust me

>> No.4667463

>>4667439
Japanese are powerlevelfags.

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>>4667439

This. I was surprised at how high Yuuka was considering a majority of the fanbase have probably never played the PC-98 games, and she was only in PoFV.

Not to say there's anything against her, it just shocked me when the results came out.

>> No.4667483

>>4667399
>Moonbitches as in the SSiB bitches.
Those girls would probably top the most hated list.

Marisa went from being my second favorite Touhou to being one of my least favorite after seeing her get her ass handed to her in SSiB. I thought hard work and effort meant something. I guess not. SSiB is Naruto tier.

>> No.4667494

>>4667439

Yuka is popular because she's a legend from PC-98 times. Mokou because she's different than all other Touhous.

>> No.4667498

>>4667483
Out of curiosity, whos you're first?

>> No.4667516

>>4667483
You weren't ever a real Marisa fan, then.

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>>4666520
He did the same thing to Koakuma.

Of course, considering what annoying personalities the fandom attributes to some characters, I am all for ZUN telling the fanbase to shove it.

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>>4666520

Except that Reimu has 'no newspapers' signs now that turn into her attacks.

Reimu/Aya is never going to happen, it's just Aya pushing her nose into Reimu's business and Reimu being too lazy to exterminate her rather then put up with it.

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>>4667520

>> No.4667545

>>4667520

This. Fanon Momiji was fucking retarded. Good job ZUN.

>> No.4667564

>>4667545
What fanon Momiji? She was Youmu with wolf ears. Good riddance.

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He also pulled some things like this in the past by hinting that Letty doesn't much like Cirno

>> No.4667576

>>4667498
That's hard to say. Ran or Yukari. My list has become volatile ever since I started researching ZUN's canon plots. Despite being into touhou for a decent amount of time I've avoided canon plots because I thought it would kill the little brown Tewi (and everything she stood for).

>> No.4667578

>>4667564
She was Youmu with wolf ears, she's still Youmu with wolf ears. What exactly changed, again?

>> No.4667579

>>4667564

She was moe Youmu with wolf ears and ADHD.

>> No.4667597

>>4667483
Moonbitches trained their bodies and spirits for thousands of years for moments like these. Do their hard work and efforts not matter?

>> No.4667599

>Youmu with wolf ears

do want.

>> No.4667602

>>4667439
>>Mokou and Yuka

>>>HOT BLOODED

>> No.4667614

>>4667483
>implying anyone was seriously fighting in SSiB or in anything

>> No.4667623

>>4667576
To add, the Touhouverse used to be open/free. Ever since IN and the whole Lunarian backstory started ZUN has been limiting our imagination with lackluster garbage. Not to be insulting but I feel as if only secondary fans subscribe to ZUN's canon extra stories.

>> No.4667628

>>4667483

Lunarians are supposed to be very powerful, and Yorihime is their best fighter. You really thought a 16-17 years old human could defeat a 2k+ years old lunarian supreme commander equipped with Eldar tech? Besides Remilia and Reimu did fine against her. She's not as overpowered as many people think.

>> No.4667661

>>4667623

SSiB is the worst Touhou canon story, and it's still good until that sad excuse for a danmaku battle start.

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>>4667623
Man, the logic here is insane. People are secondary fans for liking the official material?

>> No.4667666

>>4667623

you can still enjoy your doujins, canon never stopped Chado doing whatever the fuck he wanted and there still isn't enough detail that people can't better flesh out the characters ZUN has introduced.

It's just funny to laugh at people who desperately cling to Touhou shipping.

>> No.4667673

>>4667628

Not to mention Yukari outsmarted and humiliated them.

>> No.4667706

>>4667664
Well by definition secondary fan meant someone that got interested in Touhou from the derivatives and not from the games themselves. All female Touhou fans are secondaries because they hate the games. At least all of the girls I've seen on the Internet hate them.

>> No.4667713

>>4667664
truth

>> No.4667723

>>4667623
No, secondaries are the ones in the fandom, wrighting bad doujins and fanfics for other secondaries such as yourself to masturbate to

>> No.4667759

>>4667706
But why does primaryfags' solution seem to be to disregard the official material and substitute their own?

>> No.4667769

Why do people try to force their opinions on others? Why can't we all just get along?

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>> No.4667789

>>4667759
Primary fans follow the game's canon. Not ZUN's addons that started with IN. SSiB is pretty new.

>> No.4667812

>>4667789
>the game's canon. Not ZUN's addons

You seriously don't see the silliness of that statement?

>> No.4667816

>>4667789
Its all the same canon. Touhou has no diverging plot lines, save the debatable series-resets. If one accepts this games canon but not this print work's canon, then this person has not right to condemn "secondaries" for rejecting bits of canon they dislike.

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>Reimu/Aya

>> No.4667842

>>4667812
I'm not saying they deny it. They just don't pay too much attention to it.

>> No.4667916

>>4667812
>>4667816
Give me 10 minutes to set the record straight. My fish is getting cold.

>> No.4667950

>>4667916
I want some fish, all have is this boring hamburger...

>> No.4668132

>>4667812
>>4667816
Alright I'm back. There are two definitions for the terms secondary and primary fan. The incorrect definition of the term secondary fan is someone that is new to the franchise. The correct definition for the term secondary is someone that prefers the derivative works over the games. Primary fan means someone that got into the series because they enjoyed the gameplay and characters.

PM and SSiB are relatively new to the people that have been playing Touhou since the PC-98 days. The following is what I meant by "ZUN's extra stories limit primary fans' imagination." Let's use master spark as an example. Ever since it was first used by Yuka, master spark has garnered a cult following in the games because it appeared to be a powerful attack. In SSiB it was revealed to be a weak light wave that can be deflected effortlessly by a sword/mirror. After seeing how pathetic it was in SSiB I've never looked at it the same way. Now moving along. Secondary fans are the type of people that don't care for the games and place a higher emphasis on story. Since females lack the genes that are needed to beat Touhou they tend to be secondary fans. Chibity for instance:
http://www.youtube.com/user/chibity

With each new game ZUN adds in more limitations to our imagination. The spellcard rules that were introduced in EoSD in my opinion belittled the fights to the point where it felt as if we're playing a board game with the youkai instead of trying to exterminate them.

>> No.4668180

>>4668132
Your sexism is retarded

>> No.4668198

>>4668180
Not really, it is a fact, check the polls.

>> No.4668212

>>4667950
FUCK.

Why is Chibity's channel full of audiosurf? Can't handle danmaku?

Oh wait. Does Kurot actually play the games or is she LOL TOO HARD?

Danny Choo is also in the LOL TOO HARD crowd, btw.

Oh wait.

http://kurot.deviantart.com/journal/30912131/#comments

No love for the games in the comments thread. Just LOL CUTE AND LOVE THE MUSIC.

>> No.4668214

>>4668180
Alright. Prove me wrong. Show me a video of one female gamer beating a Touhou game on lunatic. I'll even allow you to include lesbians (that obviously inherited some male genes).

>> No.4668231

>>4668132
> it felt as if we're playing a board game with the youkai instead of trying to exterminate them.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the point of the spellcard system?

>> No.4668235

>>4668214
Your argument is retarded.

The idea that there are no females ever who are good at Touhou is such an absurd idea it's insane.

There are LOTS of people who aren't good at Touhou! I struggle with Normal Mode! It's not a super easy series. To argue that there's some deep gender difference in HOW GOOD A PERSON ARE AT VIDEOGAMES is so absurd that it refutes itself with its stupidity.

>> No.4668244

>>4668132
If you want to put it that way, then ANYTHING ZUN adds to the game or series puts limitations. If he would make a youkai do/say something, then people would assume "all youkai do/say that, my imagination is now ruined"!
The way you put it, it makes it impossible to have an open mind to the game and add to the game at the same time because everything that is contributed by him, in your mind, limits your imagination that much more.

Honestly I played the PC98 games, and I do feel somewhat nostalgic. But I do see alot of improvement since the EoSD series. It may be a little bit different, but you have to take into account that now it's just ZUN working on this. And I'm not going to say he limits my imagination. He doesn't, in fact I think he has a unique ability to leave his works very open-ended and have ALOT of room for imagination to roam around. It's the reason why there's so much derivative works.

>> No.4668245

>>4668235
Touhou is pretty easy by bullet hell standards.

>> No.4668254

>>4668180
>>4668235
Wow, /jp/ really does have femanons. No need to get so worked up. Instead of arguing about Touhous you should be in the kitchen cooking for the man you love. I can be that man.

>> No.4668260

>>4668214

seems your argument is more that girls are 'secondary fans' where as guys could be either. I don't see why enjoying TH09-12 places anyone in this retarded secondary fan divide everyone whines about.

We've had shitty fans since long before those games, it's just the western Touhou fanbase has grown much larger making them more obvious.

>> No.4668261

>>4668235
Are you kidding? A CAVE game on the same difficulty is much harder than Touhou. For one thing, the bullets are much, much faster.

Heck, R-Type is harder than Touhou.

>> No.4668278

>>4668261
He said "not a super easy series". Which is true. It's not super easy. There is difficulty involved. The fact that there are many other games that are much more difficult than those in the Touhou series just means that shmup fans are masochists.

>> No.4668284

>>4668245
>pretty easy by bullet hell standards

Yes, and Bullet hell as a whole is harder then most games.

Easy Bullet Hell = Still rather hard

>> No.4668302

You know, I think it'd be better if ALL the fanworks, music circles, and doujins somehow all disappeared from the face of the universe and all forgotten.

Maybe if there weren't so many derivative works, all of the retarded secondary fans who haven't even touched the games, let alone beat them, won't even know of its existence. That would be like heaven.

I don't like fans and what they do. An honest fan would be a gamer for the series. Everyone else just ruins its style. Just look at what they did to Alice, Cirno, Sanae, Aya, Mokou, Kaguya, Eirin, Shiki, Komachi, Reisen, Flandre, Remilia, Sakuya, and about half of the other cast. It's so bullshit.

>> No.4668314

>>4668302
Most of the cast are just cardboard cut-outs to begin with.

>> No.4668317

>>4668302
So you're saying that people who play the games but don't have the reflexes/enough pattern recognition ability to be able to fully complete the should be deprived of the enjoyment of being a member of the fandom?

>> No.4668321

>>4668317
*complete them

>> No.4668326

>>4668317
Well, play the games and enjoy playing them.

>> No.4668329

>>4668314
>I never bothered reading ZUN books
It is ok secondary.

>> No.4668334

>>4668321
To delete your post, click the checkbox next to "Anonymous", scroll all the way down, and click the delete button in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen. Try it!

>> No.4668339

>>4668317
He is right.

>> No.4668335 [DELETED] 

>>4668329
Someone's mad

>> No.4668351

>>4668317

I'm saying what ZUN said was right. It's the same reason why he doesn't sell his games to Westerners.

>Shmups are too hard for Americans.

So in a way, yes. They should get better. I sucked at first, but at least I got better and I can play lunatic at least halfway through each one of the games now, no continues.

And yes, people who can't or don't play haven't earned enough respect for the games to enjoy making derivitive works. It's what I hate most. I garuntee there wouldn't be half the crap there is today if only they actually played and beat the games. Secondary fans don't have any respect, and I hate them for that.

>> No.4668353

Can it be the "secondaries" turn to bitch about the "primaries" now?

>> No.4668364

>>4668351
> Shmups are too hard for Americans.
What about Europeans?

>> No.4668365

>>4668351
But they make my porn

>> No.4668366

>>4668214
Are you the same guy that was saying you could tell that Mokou was a lesbian because of her facial structure the other day?

>> No.4668368

>>4668353
What right do secondaries have to bitch when they dont give a flying fuck about the original material?

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>>4668260
I cant take your post seriously until you admit to being a female. I wasn't trying to offend anyone. I was merely stating a fact. At any given moment I can find 100 videos on youtube/nico of males 1ccing Touhou on lunatic. Here, I'll leave myself vulnerable. If you can find 'one' video on youtube of a female 1ccing Touhou on lunatic I'll admit defeat. Just one.

I'll still win either way because the female you find will eventually get bedded by yours truly.

>> No.4668371

this is just like SMT fans vs Persona 3/4 fans in /v/.

>> No.4668378

Elitism is stupid.

>> No.4668389

>>4668365

I hate your kind of secondary fans the most.

All your kind does is turn his hard work, original characters and wonderful storyline into buckets of semen. If you want to fap, you could do it to anything, but instead you enjoy Touhou. It just proves me even more that people have no respect.

>> No.4668390

>>4668378
But it's also necessary. To a degree anyways.
So long as they can either enjoy the original works or contribute to the series (non canonically) as a whole, who cares if they can 1 CC SA on Lunatic?

>> No.4668393

>>4668368
I've played all the games and gotten at least normal 1CC'd, yet I happen to like the derivitive works more than the games, simply because I'm the kind of person that prefers a good story. I still think the games are good, just that I would rather read a good book than play a good game.

>> No.4668399

>>4668390
> So long as they can either enjoy the original works or contribute to the series (non canonically) as a whole, who cares if they can 1 CC SA on Lunatic?
This.

>> No.4668401

>>4668351


You're a complete faggot for taking a video game seriously and so is zun

>> No.4668409

>>4668390
because Cirno.

A person with respect for Touhou wouldn't do that. It's the constant raging in the game as a newbie that you keep dying over and over again that makes you earn respect for it. After over about 1000 deaths on that Touhou, I'm sure seeing someone completely making a fool out of your Touhou will make you rage at least just a little bit.

>> No.4668413

>>4668389
Stop being mad. It isn't some glorious underground club.
And besides that, what the hell made you think I can't enjoy the games and read the books and fap to the porn all together?
Some sort of required sacred respect I get for a side-scrolling shooter after playing it for hours?
Do I feel like the series degrades itself from all the complex and intricate themes it touches as "X" gets fucked by "Y"?

No, stop being a faggot.

>> No.4668417

>>4668366
How the hell did you know that?

>> No.4668418

>>4668401
>I'm angry because I'm a secondary fan who doesn't like the games and i think zun is a faggot but i like the derivative works


No respect at all.

>> No.4668425

>>4668409
So basically, you're just REALLY mad about someone drawing your favorite girl in a less-than-flattering situation over and over?

>> No.4668426

>>4668353
Don't bother. The reason theres almost never any good counter arguement to all the shit both sides of this debate spew is because all those smart enough to form a decent counter arguement don't bother, because they know it won't change anything.
You don't go into a bar full of Saints fans and give some 20 minute speach about how much the Saints suck and expect anything good to come out of it.

>> No.4668434

>>4668409
>>4668413
...Well huh.

>> No.4668435

>>4668413
read
>>4668409

>> No.4668443

>>4668409
> Dying over 1000 times against Cirno
What.

>> No.4668468 [DELETED] 

>>4668409
> A person with respect for Touhou wouldn't do that.
I'm guessing ZUN doesn't have respect for Touhou, as he's the one who labeled Cirno as an idiot and created the seed that led to the ⑨ meme.

>> No.4668464

>>4668435
I did, that other guy's an idiot.
Man, I bet you're wondering which Anon posted this.

>> No.4668465

>>4668443
I'm just making an example out of Cirno, how far she's been degraded.

The actual 1000 deaths part was another Touhou...Mokou

>> No.4668472

ITT secondaries get owned and buttangery

>> No.4668485 [DELETED] 

>>4668409
> A person with respect for Touhou wouldn't do that.
I'm guessing ZUN doesn't have respect for Touhou, as he's the one who labeled Cirno as an idiot in the first place. The fans just took what ZUN gave them and ran with it in this case.

So yeah, Cirno wasn't the best example for you to use.

>> No.4668489

>>4668366
>Are you the same guy that was saying you could tell that Mokou was a lesbian because of her facial structure the other day?
Funny thing about the other thread is that I was the guy that started the whole shitstorm in the first place. And I'm also the same guy [>>4668132] that started this shitstorm. I've been on a roll. I think it's time I took a break from 4chan. Discussions like this take up way too much time. My NEET days are over.

>> No.4668500

>>4668409
> A person with respect for Touhou wouldn't do that.
I'm guessing ZUN doesn't have respect for Touhou, then, as he's the one who labeled Cirno as an idiot in the first place. The fans just took what ZUN gave them and ran with it in this case. So yeah, Cirno wasn't the best example for you to use.

(Though even then, Cirno is actually pretty amazing when you remember that she's a fairy, who are normally intrastage cannon fodder.)

>> No.4668507

>>4668425
No, I'm upset that faggots who never even touched the games act like a Touhou fan. It's not even being a fan of Touhou. It's being a fan of the derivative works of Touhou. The faggots are basically twisting the original work and calling it for granted as their own as if it's canonical material.

Just look at Yukari and the whole GAP HAX bullshit?

>> No.4668520

>>4668500

I know ZUN said she was an idiot. But he left it at that. Everyone else (excluding real fans) took it too a whole new level with this BAKA BAKA bullcrap, and made her 10x more obnoxious to boot.

>> No.4668523

>>4668507
> Just look at Yukari and the whole GAP HAX bullshit?
Are you saying that Yukari's power is NOT hax? I'm not saying that it's as hax as some people claim, but it's certainly pretty damn powerful.

Then again, all Touhou characters are hax in their own ways, even Reimu.

>> No.4668526

>>4668507
Oh. Okay then.
Well, I'm still gonna play on hard and fap to loads of porns of it, but that's as far as my contribution to the series goes.

>> No.4668535

>>4668520
> Everyone else (excluding real fans)
As if you have the right to determine what constitutes a "real" fan.

>> No.4668538

If there was no such thing as IOSYS we wouldn't have secondary fans like chibity:
http://www.youtube.com/user/chibity

I've fallen in love with her despite the fact that she's a furry/lesbro secondary fan.

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Tsunderewolf

>> No.4668557

>>4668538
>fallen in love
>with Chibity
Get out possessedbyphoenix devs.

>> No.4668559

>>4668364
Europeans are worse than Americans.

Because they've given birth to


*gasp*

Euroshmups.

The horror!

>> No.4668567

>>4668523
I was about to rage at first, but I see you have some reasoning. Let me just quote PM to clarify how much people overestimate her.

>Among the abilities youkai are known to possess, this is one of most dangerous, being even comparable to the power of gods.

People would look at this and say "holy crap she's the mighiest there is!"
But they also forget, there are Gods in in Gensokyo too and therefore this isn't really as big of a deal as they think. Suwako and Kanako would be at an equal footing as Yukari, if not more. But people automatically assume Yukari is the mightiest there is. She may be the mightiest Youkai. But not the mightiest Touhou. Anything further than that would be pushing it.

>> No.4668569

>>4668538
>>chibity
>>furry

SUFFER NOT THE FURRY TO LIVE!

>> No.4668571

>>4668556
THUNDERWOLF

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>>4668571
HOOOO!

>> No.4668603

>>4668567
Oh, okay, you were talking about that stuff. Yeah, being annoyed by people honestly claiming that is understandable.

>> No.4668609

>>4668582
god that is adorable

>> No.4668617

>>4668582
This reminds me; I don't have much knowledge of Dream C Club, but why is it that the kana name doesn't have the "C" pronounced?

>> No.4668625

>>4668567
>Suwako and Kanako would be at an equal footing as Yukari

why using Suwako and Kanako? the Aki sisters and Hina are God too

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More MOEmiji?

>> No.4668631

>>4668628
Ugh, hide your areola, dog-bitch.

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>>4668628
Sounds like a plan.

>> No.4668637

>>4668567
I doubt 'any' youkai are on par with the gods/goddesses of the Touhouverse. Not even Yukari. Suwako is most likely stronger than Yukari. Remember, ZUN has consistently used the gods as a measurement of power in the Touhouverse. Yukari is only considered strong because her hax was compared to the gods. One of the moonbitches is considered strong because she has the ability to summon the gods.

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>>4668631

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A more accurate description of our bulldog than those cutesy tail wagging images.

>> No.4668653

>>4668637

The moonbitch with the godpowers is by definition more powerful than any individual god, as she can use the powers of any god she wants (out of, what, 39 million choices?).

Also, the gods come in different levels, some gods are just pathetic (Aki sisters are gods, remember?)

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>> No.4668655

Belief. Belief is what is key in Gensokyo. A simple stick will not defend you against a ravenous youkai beast. But the gohei of the undefeatable Hakurei Shrine Maiden who has cut down thousands- nay, millions of youkai? That will slice a minor monster in twain.
Humans are weak, powerless against youkai. A single human who has defeated countless? Unstoppable. Their child, and their children's children also fight youkai? Suddenly, the entire bloodline gains youkai-defeating powers. Just because people believe it to be true, both youkai and humans alike.

It works both ways. A youkai, endlessly powerful, mysterious and unknowable? She is mighty indeed.

And that's why Yukari's hax, so's Reimu and why Aya's job as chief propaganda minister and spin doctor is so important.

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>>4668652
Accuracy is for historians, engineers, and snipers.

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>>4668637
Just with 3 to 5 god spells Yorihime managed to single handedly defeat Sakuya, Marisa, Remilia, and Reimu without breaking a sweat. And according to her boast she still had 39k more god hax spells left. I wonder how strong she would have been in said fight without her god summoning hax. Technically it wasn't her that was fighting but her summons.

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CASUALS!

>> No.4668705

>>4668684

Summoning gods IS her power. Asking what she could do without it is like asking how good Goku would be without his ki tricks.

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>> No.4668722

>>4668705
That's kind of a pathetic primary power considering the fact that anybody can learn how to do it. Reimu learned how to do it in a few hours worth of training.

>> No.4668751

I had to fold the laundry. Are we done fighting over who deserves to like Touhou more? Momiji time?

>> No.4668757

>>4668722
Are you really saying the Shrine Maiden of Paradise qualifies as "anybody"?

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>>4668751
Momiji time.

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>>4668780

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It's always Momiji time

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Chonizi

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Arf arf arf!

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>> No.4668912

>>4668556
Anybody have a source for this?

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>> No.4668944

You guys are forgetting that Momiji has rabies.

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>>4668944
Good point. Safety first, after all.

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>>4668944
[citation needed]

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>>4668967
Back off, bitch.

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You know, I never really thought of it, but doesn't liking Momiji make me a borderline furry?
Huh, food for thought...

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>>4669005
No. Just like liking Ran doesn't either. It just means you have good taste, because Moemozi is one of the best Touhous.

>> No.4669017

>>4669005
No.

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>>4669015
>>4669017
Oh, ok, good.
...ugh, I don't have much Momiji...

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>> No.4669157

>>4669115
oh hai inuyasha

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>> No.4669179

More Moemiji please.

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y/n?

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M-momiji...no, we...you can't...I...I...its not...canon a-a-anymore...

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>>4668956
Double Spoiler

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>> No.4669408

>>4669233
You really went there?

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>>4669408
Went where what now?

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>> No.4669434

>>4669426
There. just there...

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>>4669434
Hmmmm?

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Hmmmm, /jp/ is sloooow tonight~

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So I obviously missed something, what makes Momiji a tsundere now?

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>> No.4669544

>>4669538
Someone actually colored that?

>> No.4669550

>>4669538

Fanon

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>>4669538
Lines from DS.
>It looks like she can't deal with with Aya, but I wonder why...
>Maybe it's just, like, a cat-and-dog relationship.

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>>4669538
DS says Aya and Momiji don't like eachother. That would ruin AyaXMomiji, so voila, tsun-tsun.

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>> No.4669987

>>4669981
the eyes that artist draws are amazing.

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>>4669987
He has more Momijis.

>> No.4670029

>>4670013
I wish he would leave off the paws.

>> No.4670038

>>4670029
Yeah, I like his momizi until I see this furry paw shit and it makes it just weird more than anything else.

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>yaaaawn, time for bed. Guess I'll go back and check if /jp/ did anything.
>see thread
Why do you give me so many pics to save when I've got no time!?

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>>4670256
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4666390
Even comes with iqdb links.

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Seems we just passed the bump limit. Less than five images left though.

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>> No.4670363

And that's a wrap. Enjoy the rest of your evenings.

>> No.4670457

There any Kanako/Suwako vs moonbitch doujins? That sounds very interesting.

>> No.4671703 [DELETED] 

>>4668684
She also did not use any danmaku in a spell card fight.

Now.

Yorihime vs. Dis Astranagant.

>> No.4671964

>>4668684
She also did not use any danmaku in a spell card fight.

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