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What is your opinion of this Zounose doujin? What theme and lesson is the story supposed to teach us?

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/last_supper

>> No.45732912

I havent read it but

>zounose

Its the 1829th story about youkai eating humans so all i can say is that the lesson learned is:

We need TYD NOW.

>> No.45732930

>>45732873
the old man was a faggot retard

>> No.45732953

>>45732873
Yes I'm sure there's deep socio-philosophical messages in this that has room for analysis for years to come

>> No.45733206

>>45732930
I always find this one funny because the old man seems to think he's such hot shit and then is all like AAAAAA THAT YOUKAI SHOWED THEIR TRUE STRENGTH TONIGHT when all they did was self defence and he still got his ass beat by like four or five different girls before dying so each one clearly wasn't trying too hard
plus he apparently used to go to mystia's cart anyway so all I can take from this is that he was a hypocrite and just wanted to suicide by youkai and all his wankery about how the crow tengu killed his comrades is stupid
god zounose's attempts at anything other than comedy are so fucking shit and even the comedy ones are hit and miss
thanks OP now I just feel pissed off

>> No.45733387

>>45732873
It's probably one of Zounose's most realistic works concerning how canon Gensokyo works

>> No.45733493

>>45732873
Zounose should've drawn 2hu porn instead of making shitty grimfag,doujins.

>> No.45734254

>>45732873
its grzat

>> No.45734758

more like poonose lol

>> No.45734951

>>45732873
It's so good that I consider it as something canon from the doujins

>> No.45735197

Why are we obsessed with man-eating monsters again?

>> No.45735728

>>45732873
"The future is now, old man."
It's a fairly straightforward suicide by cop story, really. Like, dude sounds almost ecstatic when Yukari came to meet him.

>> No.45736067

>>45732873
>z*unose

another shit-filled masterclass at butchering the personalities of every single character involved, don't even need to read it

>> No.45737111

>>45736067
Coward

>> No.45738320

>>45732873
>Zounose
I don't read his stuff, mostly because it's so fucking edgy. I mean I know Gensokyo is no wonderland but it's not THAT bad. What made me completely stop reading his stuff is that dumb story with Sanae and the child sacrifices, it was without a doubt one of most braindead and force grimdark shit I've ever read.

>> No.45739374

He really likes this whole eating humans fetish, now I just wait for Spacejin to make a serious edgy grimsokyo doujin that would be centred on ballbusting

>> No.45740619
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>>45732873
i can't take anything zunose makes seriously, this included. i'd say it's middle of the road on the comically grim scale, not the weirdest thing of his i've read but i just don't see why you'd actively consume it or who it's designed to cater to

i guess touhou has a niche for everyone but in zunose's case it's the equivalent of taking that suffering porn fic you wrote when you were 14 and never iterating on it. i unironically think taking the piss out of KKHTA was more fulfilling than anything of his i've read; there's just not much of substance, it's a disjointed version of Gensokyo where everything sucks now because the author has a fetish for suffering. touhou canon and most of fanon does a good job of not making youkai into contrived flanderisations of themselves, but i think with the toned up violence zunose and his grimsokyo ends up doing that anyway. it'd sort of make sense if it were set in a gensokyo, say, a few hundred years ago, but even then it's just not fun to read about unless there's something to counter how utterly nihilistic it is

oh, and specifically yukari. like, really? eating someone's head on a platter? is ran going to cut off the bits where rumia chomped on? it's just totally out of character to me. i dislike how in fanon yukari's either an incompetent oaf or a murderous sociopath, like she has a BIT more nuance, even if her primary job is teleporting humans into muenzuka as food in canon she's not a demon lady. did old exorcist man basically commit suicide? i just don't get the point of this doujin in the slightest

>> No.45740786

>>45732873
"Youkai dominate the world and humans exist to be in the food chain blah blah blah"
Shit is overdone, though the dude is quite right about Reimu being a fool

>> No.45740863

>>45732873
>Zounose
Sorry, but that means it's poor, contrived writing by default. I don't even need to dredge my memory to see whether I've read this particular book. I can just assume it's going to either trip its own established up to squeeze in a "shocking" gore panel or outright not resemble Touhou to begin with.

It's a pity, because Zounose's art is overall rather pleasant to the eye.

>> No.45742990

>>45740786
>"Youkai dominate the world and humans exist to be in the food chain blah blah blah"
It's not even true, Youkai quite literally live in a reservart like the natives in the US because otherwise they'd go extinct

>> No.45743506

>>45742990
It's funny because youkai are willing to fully forget the fact they lost in the Outside World and treat their superiority status in Gensokyo as the only reality

>> No.45743579

>>45743506
Youkai are canologically petty and narrow minded, they have to be. They're youkai, not real people.

>> No.45744008

Orin looks fucking horrifying

>> No.45744191

>>45733206
You now remember the Sekibanki doujin.

>> No.45744228

>>45744191
That one's my go-to when discussing Zounose's problems. It's kind of impressive how he goes out of his way to dismantle his own story just for that oh-so-shocking severed neck shot.

Never have I ever lost my respect for a creator as quickly as I did after reading that doujin. What an absolute hack.

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>>45744191
I do my best not to
no seriously I don't really remember apart from it being something about her getting more bodies
to me 'the sekibanki doujin' refers to that one where she has a bunch of 'balloons' (her extra heads) and then sanae and reimu find her, and sanae pumps her head full of helium and sets it off into the atmophere, where it's next seen somewhere near saturn

>> No.45744391

>>45740619
>i just don't get the point of this doujin in the slightest
It's literally all about flexing of how youkai are the dominant force in Gensokyo and how those who oppose them have been wedded out, with the last opposition dying with a smile and accepting that humans in Gensokyo will eternally live under youkai, it's basically nihilism

>> No.45744506
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45744506

I've been thinking about it and outside of his genuine comedy doujins, I think the only actually good doujins he's done are RAINFALL and Moriya Sama
RAINFALL is pretty good because the youkai all help the humans survive the flooding without any real gorewank or edgy 'it's so we can eat them hehehehe' bullshit, and aside from Yukari doing a smug and pointless speech, it's actually pretty normal as a doujin
and I like Moriya Sama because it's a fun mystery story about reality being messed with to erase characters from existence (again, without much edgy gorewank) and has some cool moments

>> No.45744578

>>45744506
Canni-Chan is better than those boring doujins you mentioned

>> No.45744708

>>45732873
2hus are for love, not wanton edginess.

>> No.45744712

>>45740619
>KKHTA
It's author sure is unique case, isn't he?

>> No.45747543
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>>45732873
It's another "humans are le youkai food!" for the gorillionth time.

>> No.45747574

>>45744712
Not so much the author as the series' confoundingly massive following.

>> No.45751712

>>45732873
>Those who disagreed with the Hieda Chronicles were driven out
>Those who stood apart from Gensokyo's current ideology were purged
>The age of "real" exterminators has ended, and humans have agreed to stay in the bottom of the food chain in Gensokyo as their place
Defeatist nihilism

>> No.45754084

Zounose is a chad

>> No.45755994

>>45732873
I don't know

>> No.45762086

>>45754084
No he's a trash storywriter

>> No.45762096

>>45762086
In today's climate, controversial or reviled equals good.

>> No.45762977

>>45762086
He got people seething for years over his barely-disguised grimdark fetish doujin. A true master baiter even if he didn't realize it.

>> No.45762998

>>45754084
>>45762086
Who do I believe?

>> No.45763043

>>45762977
If I've learned something from the internet it would be that the most talented are always the most hated.

>> No.45763144

>>45732873
Changes are inevitable; those who can't adapt with the time are simply left behind. Yet, at the same time, it's admirable to hold on to those old traditions. After all, what is the present without the past that founded it.

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I really wish Zounose made a doujin about half-human half-Youkai people since they’re rarely if ever talked about. Rinnosuke was driven out of the village and nobody talks about that.

>> No.45763368

>>45763043
Like clockwork.
>>45762096

>> No.45763541

>>45763330
Rinnosuke needs more serious doujin, period.

>> No.45764341

I wonder if goofy youkai like Kogasa or Kyoko eat human flesh too

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>>45764341
kyouko yes for bullshit reasons that don't relate to actual lore because zounose needs to jerk off
kogasa no, she refuses the canned human meat in canni-can

>> No.45764422

>>45764341
If you are talking about Zounose's doujin, Kyoko eats the the fruits that are fertilized by the corpses of stillborn babies in one of his other. Don't know about the umbrella, but I don't think Zounose actually showed any Tool Youkai do the deed so it's up in the air.
In canon, no.

>> No.45764589

>>45764422
>I don't think Zounose actually showed any Tool Youkai do the deed so it's up in the air
Several tsukumogami did in Canni-Can. Though they *are* newborns, probably didn't even know what they're fed with.
On the other hand, Kogasa actively refuses to eat any.

>> No.45764988

>>45763368
No no no, the hate comes with the talent and not the other way around, sonny.

>> No.45768342
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>>45764589
Kogasa being a good girl trascends even Zounouse's grimfaggotry

>> No.45769973

>>45732873
>grimderp slop about le youkai killing and eating humans number 876389 (never seen anything like this before, especially not from zounose)
i'll pass

>> No.45773534

Why is everyone acting like a pussy on this thread?

>> No.45777259
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45777259

Why does Reiny bully an old lady?

>> No.45777507

>>45777259
Because decrepit old women have no place in the paradise of young girls of Gensokyo.
She should come back when she's 17.

>> No.45782497

glad to know zounose lives rent free in your head for drawing canon-accurate works

>> No.45782587

>>45782497
Huh?

>> No.45783421

>>45782497
Sanae who canonically gets really tired of her gods' bullshit, willfully participates in cannibalism and stains herself with corruption because muh godhood.
Yeah, "canon-accurate", okay buddy.

>> No.45783627

"Zounose" and "canon"
Name a better combination of bait

>> No.45783813

>>45732873
There's something about Zounose's art style I don't get with most mangaka that makes me think he draws the same face every time on every major character. It's hard to describe. I think I started noticing how often his characters have that slack jawed-open mouth expression and then it got stuck in my head.

>> No.45784003

>>45783813
It's the mouths, it's like he gives everybody the same type of shark toothed mouth.

>> No.45784156

>>45784003
That must be it.

>> No.45784576
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Why do people find Youkai to be evil and a detriment to humanity hard to swallow? ZUN has always depicted Youkai to be evil and never strayed from that path. Is it because he started killing of fan depictions of the 2hus? Like Kaguya being a lazy NEET or Flandre being harmless? Every official game and manga has shown the youkai to be evil

>> No.45784585

>>45784576
I don't get what this picture is supposed to prove

>> No.45784603

>>45784585
Suika is a bitch and not a friendly person?

>> No.45784618

>>45784603
Suika is probably one of the friendliest youkai to humans. She goes to the village willingly and played along with Setsuben until Reimu extended it to make money.

>> No.45784645

>>45784618
She's just masochist forcing the villagers to play along in her weird kink. It's still a form of abuse and similar to "gods" like the autumn sister and their racket.
Gods in general are a protection racket like the tengu.

>> No.45784649

>>45784603
she's pissed off in that panel because it's setsuban and gensokyo's hatred is currently focused on her since she's the only (known) oni above ground, and even then, she still selflessly plans to devour all of the beans at reimu's festival because they're not properly cooked. Her original plan for that would have meant that no one even knew that it had happened, but she was going to do it anyway
if you take the two chapters here instead of one page, it says the exact opposite of what you're trying to say it does
it's not exactly representative of her in general

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>>45736067
>>45738320
>>45739374
>>45740619
>>45747543
ZUN: "Rumia likes to hunt and EAT humans"
Zounose: *draws Rumia hunting and eating humans*
Fake Touhou fan: "NOOOO!!!! THIS IS VORE FETISH, THIS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO CANON!!!! AAAAAAAH I'M HECKIN TRIGGERED!!!!"
See pic related, you fucking posers, you phonies, you FRAUDS.

>>45744506
>>45744578
Rainfall and Canni-can are his best masterpieces, not because of the cannibalism but because of how much worldbuilding and characters reacting to a situation he covers.

>> No.45784812

>>45784804
ZUN: Rumia is extremely lazy and can't even be bothered to move to an area where there's humans
Zounose: apex predator

>> No.45784820

>>45784812
There's no contradiction, Zounose shows her eating lone humans that wander into her territory, not her raiding the human village.

>> No.45784838

>>45784820
She literally so weak random humans btfo her as said in Aya's interview with her.

>> No.45784868

>>45784838
>Aya's interview with her.
Aya is fake news.

>> No.45784871

>>45784838
>random humans

Pretty sure that interview was implying these "random humans" were Reimu and Marisa.

>> No.45784876

>>45784871
the eyewitness quotes from actual random humans in PMiSS have her miss humans who actually do get stuck in her darkness orb, crash intro trees because she can't see where she's going, and fly around aimlessly because, again, she can't actually see what she's doing

>> No.45784879

>>45784868
The Bunbunmaru is the most honest and legitimate source of information in all Gensokyo. Only a fool would trust the other tengu newspapers, or even worse, hearsay by biased and untrustworthy villagers or youkai.

>> No.45784884

>>45784812
Rumia is an absolute dumbass who can't see in her black bubble. She is hunting as if she she is being blindfolded.
She is both a weak youkai, and a terrible hunter.

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>>45784838
>She literally so weak random humans btfo her as said in Aya's interview with her.
She's not that weak

>> No.45784935

>>45784909
She is 100% an entry level jobber in canon and every second fanwork.

>> No.45785007

>>45784909
(You) would mog her, heck any anon probably as long as he has all of his limbs.

>> No.45786542

>>45732873
It's supposed to teach us that humans have accepted their fate as cattle

>> No.45786689

>>45784812
Canon roomba: a bit dim if not child-like in intelligence
Zou roomba: understand the Buddhist concept of triply clean meat because fuck you she does now

>> No.45788792

last supper? more like last faggot

>> No.45789680

>>45788792
Zounose status:
[X] Tritold Marche
[X] OLD/TOLD WITCH
[X] Bloodshed! Mayhem!! Let's Tell 'Em!!!
[X] Betold the Rainbow
[X] SuwaTOLD vs Space SuwaTOLD
[X] Welcome Told, Princess Sukuna
[X] Momizi TOLD
[X] DaTOLDshi
[X] Without Growing Used to Being Told
[X] Dragon Teller
[X] Toldtoldtoldbanki
[X] Grand Guigtold
[X] Vintold
[X] When you Tell Upon a STAR

>> No.45792840

>>45789680
Welcome Home Princess Sukuna isn't even his book and Grand Guignol is an anthology made with several other artists.

>> No.45793539

>>45792840
[X] TOLDog
[X] RAIN TOLD

>> No.45796063

>>45793539
Vruh

>> No.45796096

>>45789680
>>45793539
I don't know what's funnier, you mistaking what is and isn't Zounose's doujin, or that you somehow miss his classics like Kaminare and Canni-Can.

>> No.45797231

>>45796096
They hate talking about Canni-Chan because it's another canon-accurate work alongside Last Supper and Goodbye Beast

>> No.45797283

>>45796096
Neither of those titles really lends itself to toldening. "Told-Can" sounds dumb. "Told-ni-nare" is kinda amusing, if obtuse. Overall meh.

>> No.45797346

>>45797231
I can't imagine it being fun using the same bait over and over in one thread, but what do I know.

>>45797283
How about that. I'm genuinely surprised that there were actually thoughts put into that joke.

>> No.45798490

>>45784804
>filename
>kasen
you're the fraud
and to double down on you being the fraud, that panel doesn't even take place in Gensokyo

way to go, retard

>> No.45801415

>>45798490
never talk to me like that again asshole

>> No.45801738

>>45751712
But then, the prophecy came, of the Chosen One who will protect the innocent humans and redeem all evil youkai from their ways, bringing peace, love and happiness to them all!

>> No.45801747

Those youkai...!
Those misbegotten Lunarians—!
MAKE THEM SUPPER

>> No.45805958

>>45801747
Lol

>> No.45806688

i have a cannibalism fetish so I like it :D. I like the contrast between the everyday lives of the youkai and the slow deterioration of the exterminator's body.

>> No.45810421

>>45732873
I hate it

>> No.45816678

Last Food

>> No.45816962
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45816962

Was the old man in the right.

>> No.45817289

>>45816962
I wish ZUN or Zounose did a work about Human/Youkai couples and how they're viewed in Gensokyo since it breaks the rules and laws.

>> No.45817333

>>45816962
so if you attack youkai who are minding their own business and aren't even attacking humans, they fight back????????
banki's been living in the village for years without hurting anyone and suddenly because one dipshit exterminator who can't let go of the past says so, she's super dangerous
god I hate this dude and I can't tell if what he's saying is actually what zounose unironically thinks

>> No.45817444

>>45817333
Zounose will disregard logic and even his own established story points to squeeze in some gore or grimderp nonsense. You should be used to it by now.

>> No.45817671

>>45817333
It's easier to take if you assume the old man is the antagonist of the story and that he was on an ego trip.
>I can't tell if what he's saying is actually what zounose unironically thinks
I don't think the guy who spends several doujin killing off humans would have a pro-human view like that.

>> No.45817701

>>45817289
Well, a bunch of Japanese heroes are supposed to have the blood of youkai running in their veins, and they are quite honored.
Abe no Seimei is practically the Merlin of Japan, being the son of noble and a fox spirit.
But, in all honesty, any human who knowingly mingles with youkai in the village of Gensokyo is probably not going to be having a pleasant life. Reimu most likely zeroes in on someone like that as the biggest risk to turning into a monster.

>> No.45817826

>>45817701
I wonder if that’s why rinnosuke the only human/youkai hybrid. Makes me wonder where he stands in the hierarchy

>> No.45817881

>>45817289
Warugaki did one starring Hina.
Also Urin who also did Welcome Home Princess Sukuna some guy mentioned earlier, did one as Sekibanki's backstory.

>> No.45817940

>>45817826
Humans hate him, and Youkai ignore him. His shop is not really a shop, but more of a giant museum for Outside World garbage since no one goes to buy there.
His loyalty to Marisa's father probably stems from someone who was willing to ignore his evil bloodline and take him in, at the risk of screwing up their social standing.

>> No.45819168

>>45732873
It was pretty good.

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>>45817671
>It's easier to take if you assume the old man is the antagonist of the story and that he was on an ego trip.
He did attack Meiling because he thought she was an easy kill.

>> No.45825373

Moral of the story is: Never challenge the youkai and your place as cattle

>> No.45831275 [DELETED] 

>>45732873
>>45825373

>> No.45832267
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Let's be honest jay-poo, would you allow Sakuya to prepare you into a fancy meal for the Remimi?

>> No.45832310

>>45825373
I will tell youkai ladies that humans are superior because I can cum faster than them and challenge them to prove me wrong.

>> No.45835911

>>45732873
Good

>> No.45836207

>>45832267
Yes, although I doubt I'd make a good meal.

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>>45832267

>> No.45837637

>>45816962
No.

If he wanted to actually improve anything. He should have gone straight for Reimu or just tried to convince the entire human village to suicide by cop.

>> No.45837721

>>45837623
Zounose's faces are so fucking weird.

>> No.45838585

>>45784576
>Why do people find Youkai to be evil and a detriment to humanity hard to swallow?
Because it is a gross oversimplification and overgeneralization of their complex and varied nature.
>ZUN has always depicted Youkai to be evil and never strayed from that path.
Outright false. Kogasa, Miyoi and Kyouko
just to name few prove that is incredibly wrong. Numerous others such as Meiling, and even really feared ones like Yuuka will rarely, if ever, attack unprovoked.
>Is it because he started killing of fan depictions of the 2hus? Like Kaguya being a lazy NEET or Flandre being harmless? Every official game and manga has shown the youkai to be evil
See above.

>> No.45838822

>>45838585
>Kogasa
While largely harmless, she's unreliable and unpredictable. In fact, Akyuu outright issues a warning to parents NOT to let her interact with their children.
>Miyoi
Meddles with people's memories, causes a bunch of trouble for the heroines at the start of the manga (before she gets sidelined in her own series lol), facilitates youkai coming into and interfering with the village's internal affairs.
>Kyouko
Not purely evil, but a pointless existence that tries to supplant scientific explanation.

Not who you were replying to, and I have no horse in this race. But Miyoi's presence especially is far from beneficial for the village people.

>> No.45841294

>>45838822
based and grimpilled

>> No.45841789

>>45838822
>NOT to let her interact with their children.
Because she fucks them.
>facilitates youkai coming into and interfering with the village's internal affairs.
They come to the bar because Mitoi pimps out shotas in the back.
>Not purely evil
Aside from the shota fucking.

>> No.45841820

>>45837623
What Zounose doujin is that?

>> No.45841830

>>45841789
Kyouko is too small to fuck human shotas

>> No.45842081

>>45841830
By herself yeah but the Myouren Temple youkai hunt in packs.

>> No.45842103

>>45842081
Myouren Temple doesn’t have youkai. That would breach the agreement

>> No.45842964

>>45841820
Each and Every Man's Utopia, an anthology with several artists.

>> No.45843058

>>45842081
But what if its only 1 (one) shota?

>> No.45843213

>>45842964
>>45837623
Where to find the English version of this? I can only find the raws.

>> No.45843290

>>45843213
There weren't any. I was even thinking of typesetting it myself until I found one page someone has already done just to answer that "/jp/ getting cooked" joke.
Booru has it translated tho.

>> No.45845868

Post more zounose grim kino

>> No.45846072

Which 2hu would you let MEIN TEIL you, /jp/?

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45846126

He should've stuck to drawing the funny.

>> No.45846427
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>>45846126
I just want him to make Tengu on Tengu vioence. And the class struggle that is brewing between the Crow and Wolf tengus. Ain't no way the White Wolf Tengu are so low in the political and economical structure of the tengu society

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>> No.45846860

>>45744191
Post it

>> No.45847226

>>45846427
Imagine if momiji was a boy. Femdom would have ensued.

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>>45846860

>> No.45848195

>>45846427
>Old and aged tengu
didn't these fuckers remain inmortal and young or something?

>> No.45852067

>>45848195
Every society has old obstinate geezers. They're either actually old or just pretending to look like wise old men.
What gets me about that scene is that it implies Momiji and Aya act like aristocracy when they're really just a guard dog and journalist sitting at the bottom rungs. As >>45846427 said:
>Ain't no way the White Wolf Tengu are so low in the political and economical structure of the tengu society

>> No.45852088

>>45846427
>class struggle
Hmmmmmmm

>> No.45852109

>>45852067
>Aya act like aristocracy
Aya is acting normal. It’s the wolf tengus who are acting like part of the aristocracy. Hatate shows up and the wolf tengus show the same fear/reverence for her as Aya. Crow tengus are just higher up in society.

>> No.45852197

>>45846427
None of the white wolf tengus even have an in-game spell-card portrait, it's over for them - cursed to forever remain a footnote in the tengu society.

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>>45852109
>Hatate shows up and the wolf tengus show the same fear/reverence for her as Aya. Crow tengus are just higher up in society.
Kind of bullshit. How could, Hatate, a literal NEET, be higher than Momiji

>> No.45853311

>>45852912
Caste systems are notorious for not producing good leaders.

>> No.45853330

>>45852109
>>45852912
Is that crow/wolf tengu caste shit even in the actual Japanese lore? I thought tengus were only the red big nose guys and that's that.

>> No.45854651

Last Supper is a good one, but Canni-Chan is the best

>> No.45854981

>>45853330
While not crow/wolf exactly, there is a mention of there being a chief greater tengu and lesser tengu acting as retainers. In this case I suppose that would be the crow and wolf respectively.
Too bad Momiji is the only named non-crow tengu. Would love to see more of everything else.

>> No.45855032

>>45853330
ZUN trying to combine multiple Tengu folklores into one big hodgepodge society. There is a even lower caste of Tengu, but we never saw one yet.
Like many folktales, time has altered it from its origin to fit with the times. Tengu were most likely just mountain wolves originally, some sort of animal youkai or kami that morphed into the big nosed crowmen when people started to conflate them with Buddhist monks that started living on mountains in a hermit lifestyle.

>> No.45855076

>>45855032
I'm hoping we get to see the print shop workers at some point
hell I'll even take just getting another white wolf tengu that actually has lines

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>>45853311
Imagine being a proud white wolf tengu on patrol to protect your people, who has to work under Hatate, a good for nothing NEET, knowing that she's more valued by society than you. Heartbreaking. Tengu civil war when?

>> No.45855323

>>45855076
>print shop workers
Plot twist: Suzu has a tengu as parent/grandparent

>> No.45855726

>>45847264
How to shit on your own story in a single page.

>> No.45855768

>>45735197
We're having some devouring mother fetish of course as we're projecting mommy figures even on loli touhous, or so had spoke Zounose in his own head

>> No.45856576

>>45855726
I still don't get what's your beef with it. Rather, it's just silly that someone gets this pissed off considering it was a gag doujin.

>> No.45856631

>>45856576
It's symptomatic of Zounose's larger problem. The Sekibanki doujin spends almost its entire length showcasing that the body is the "core" and non-interchangeable part of her physiology, while the heads are many, interchangeable and even disposable. Then the epilogue flips that 180 degrees for no reason but our boy author reaaally wanted to put some gore in an otherwise, as you said, gag doujin. He invalidates the fundamental premise he himself presented earlier, never mind the tone of the work - just to satisfy his strange fixation on graphic violence.

This isn't any less egregious in his more "serious" stories, where he'll bend over backwards and flagrantly ignore the established setting in order to indulge his silly gore lust. It's just poor writing, and I can't take it seriously. Why would I, if even the author drops all shits given at the drop of a hat?

>> No.45857106

>>45855032
why do tengus hate buddhist monk then?

>> No.45857112

>>45857106
It's mentioned Tengu hermits exist and there is a Tengu Buddhist conflict.
Although they don't fight much just do to not being around each other much.

>> No.45857163

>>45856631
>the body is the "core" and non-interchangeable part of her physiology
Does it? Part of the running gag is how much *not* like Banki the body's acting, even more so than the heads, so I didn't really give it much thought other than "oh a story about multiples of a person going through identity crisis, how original".
Course I didn't see the ending coming either, but it is something I just came to expect from him, and the explanation that she has a "core" head was good enough. Not like it matters anyway; the story ending in a it was a dream I had moment make just as much sense.

That said, I do get where you're coming from, though my opinion remains unchanged but that's neither here nor there.

>> No.45857200

>>45857106
Back in the day, Buddhism was considered a pretty alien religion in Japan. People just abandoning society, doing weird unseen rituals, and living on mountains looked pretty weird.
Onis are the same. They are a very Buddhist inspired folktale, but instead of being just hell's wardens, they got mixed up with the very bad bandit issue going on in Japan, so the evil murderers from the mountains got mixed with the violent ogre demons from hell.

>> No.45857363

>>45857112
>>45857200
I see, thanks LoreAnons

>> No.45860097

>>45855237
Poor hatate

>> No.45860107

>>45732873
it's garbage

>> No.45862807

>>45855237
I don’t get it b

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>>45862807
Zounose is not cano- ACK ACK ACK AAAAAACK!!!!

>> No.45862920

>>45862830
That's some terrible coughing fit. Want me to get Kutaka for you?

>> No.45863482

>>45732873
the last food

>> No.45863794

>>45846427
Is Aya really that high up in tengu society or is momiji’s dad just a cuck?

>> No.45864414

>>45863794
It's Zounose, so she probably murdered his wife for shits and giggles while biting the heads off his other children for no reason whatsoever (but drawn in great detail), and that's why he's acting so fawning toward her.

>> No.45864599

>>45863794
Crow tengu in general seems to be so.
But also yes maybe. In RAIN FALL we do see her commanding a troop of tengu during the flood. Course this was back before Megumu, nowadays Aya's just a butt monkey.

>> No.45870112

>>45864414
>>45864599
You guys are saying like you wouldn’t like to be femdom by Aya. I would be happy if I was a wolf tengu and a crow tengu paid any attention to me.

>> No.45870414

>>45870112
Again, it's Zounose. So it's probably something gory and painfully contrived.

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>>45870112
Aya is for bullying.

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>>45872092
Aya really does suffer under Zounose. She even killed her half-human child to appese the tengu elders

>> No.45872457

>>45872446
He should do an Aya suicide doujin where she breaks from All the stress and kills herself.

>> No.45872735

>>45872446
Aren’t tengus supremacist? I don’t think they will allow half-breed.

>> No.45873411

>>45872446
>Aya really does suffer under Zounose
Good. I hate how much of a smug fuck she is in canon that rarely gets her comeuppance.

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>> No.45874037

Read "Not Used to the Wind"

>> No.45875344

>>45874037
I did. Not terribly fond of it, but that's more because I'm just not into stories with heavy relationship drama. They're exhausting to read.
Although I think it's funny that the doujin was released a couple of months before Nemuno was a thing, because Aya's role would've otherwise been hers.

>> No.45877501

>>45875344
What is your opinion of Canni-Chan? I think it's the best because canon-accurate = quality

>> No.45879628

>>45877501
I think the comically large blender in the Kappa onions green factory is funny

>> No.45879711

>>45877501
Speaking of funny, Canni-Can is another one obviously written back in the day, when the only thing known about the yamawaro is that they're an offshoot of the kappa and they like to play war. Otherwise they would've clamored to take part in the human factory business.
Not to mention other youkai that also made their home in the mountain that would've had issues with that large processing plant.

So yeah the factory got destroyed in MEAT MATE MEET probably because there are too many things going on now.

>> No.45885159

>>45879628
Kind of horrific when you think about it.

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