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The Strongest TYPE-MOON.

>> No.4529979

>>4529971
Type Mercury (ORT) = Ado Edem > Type Jupiter > Type Saturn > Type Pluto > Type Venus > Type Moon (Crimson Moon) > Primate Murder > Original Roa > Angra Mainyu > Zelretch (young) > Counter Guardian Archer > Gilgamesh (Tohsaka) > Gilgamesh (Kotomine) = Arcueid (standard 30%) > Dark Sakura > Dark Saber > Lancelot = Saber > 5th Berserker = 17th Roa (Elesia) > Dark Berserker > 4th Rider > 5th Lancer (optimal) > 4th Lancer = 5th Rider (Sakura/optimal) = 4th Caster (optimal) > 5th Lancer (Kotomine) = 5th Caster = 4th Caster (Ryuunosuke) > 5th Rider (Shinji) > Nrvnqsr = Clairvoyant Fujino = Kurogiri > Archer > Kouma > 5th Assassin = 4th Assassin > Aoko = Barthomeloi = Kojirou = Ciel = "Ryougi Shiki" = Souren Araya (within the Ogawa Building) > Gun God (Black Barrel) > Touko = El-Melloi = Night of Wallachia > Sion Tatari = Melty Blood Satsuki = R.Shiki = Akiha = Asagami Fujino = 18th Roa > Tohno SHIKI = Alba = Heaven痴 Feel Shirou = Kiri > Nanaya Shiki = Reinforced Kuzuki = Sion = UBW Shirou = Waver = Bazett > Avenger = Rin = Kotomine = Zouken = Luvia > Kiritsugu = Irisviel > Maiya = Leysritt = Tsukihime Satsuki = Lio = Avalon Shirou = Sakura = Ilya = Kariya = Len > Kirie = Caren = Meruka > The Dead = Possessed Corpse = Azaka = Misayo = Dragon Tooth Warrior = Fuji-nee > Fake Shiki > Gun God (unequipped) = Ryuunosuke = Tomoe = Shinji = Hisui = Kohaku

>> No.4529981

Hourly shitty Angry Type-Moon Fan thread.

>> No.4529985
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>> No.4530001

>>4529979
>>4529981
>>4529985
3 SAGES IN A ROW!

>> No.4530008

>>4529979
>Luvia > Kiritsugu

AWESOME

>> No.4530018

>>4529979
Needs Neko Arc at the top for maximum trolling

>> No.4530026

>>4530001
Go back to /a/.

>> No.4530029

>>4530008

Sheer power-wise, not skill or capabilities-wise.

Luvia, unlike Rin, is capable of A-rank gemspam.

What I'd complain is
>El-Melloi = Night of Wallachia

Seriously? That mercury could not stop a single katto.

>> No.4530037

>>4530029
Wallachia would be dead before he could even get off a katto.

>> No.4530055

>>4530008
Luvia isn't called the Elegant Hyena for no reason.

>> No.4530057

The absence of akasha shiki in that list disappoints me.

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>>4530037

Spoiler you can't freaking kill Wallachia without judicial plothax.

You might behead the Zepia body if you're lucky, but the Night of Wallachia will just come at you again in a different form.

It's a Dead Apostle Ancestor. It defied every attempt by the CHURCH who deal with vampires every goddamn day. It was unkillable even by Shiki until Arcueid pulled plot out of her ass.

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>>4530018
>>4530018
>>4530018
>>4530018

>> No.4530070

>>4530057
3rd Persona is same rank as Ciel

>> No.4530074

>>4530070
wat

>> No.4530085

>>4530067
Nekoarc can take down ORT, discuss.

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4530086

>>4530029
u jealous, you can't compare me to that trash.

>> No.4530089

>>4530065

Don't forget that it can manifest

~40% Arcueid (Raging, imitation of 100%)
Fully-functional Nrvnqsr Chaos
Vermilion Akiha
Nanaya Shiki
Vampire Sacchin
That neko-thing

>> No.4530093

>>4529979
oh man, it's been a long time since I've seen that massive wall of text.

no, seriously

>> No.4530100

>>4530086
Get out of here impostor. Rin respects Luvia's abilities despite being her rival.

>> No.4530102

>>4530086
Low tier bitch.

Cry me some more

>> No.4530105

>>4530093
Well I knew I would need it sooner or later. I found the perfect opportunity in this thread.

>> No.4530120

But seriously, shouldn't akasha shiki be up in there with the types at least? Does the ability to rewrite the laws of the universe mean nothing?

>> No.4530134

>>4530120

Against the Types? Yes. That means NOTHING.

Types bring their own laws of the universe WITH THEM. Everywhere they go is "home-field advantage". In the case of ORT, its home-field is INVASIVE and CANCEROUS.

Also, Ryougi is limited severely by her human body. A great deal of mages and ALL Servants outclass her by default, and Aristoteles probably kill normal human bodies with mere presence.

>> No.4530139

>>4530065
He's not only an Ancestor, he's a goddamn phenomenon straight from Akasha. He's literally practically unkillable.

That said, power levels for Nasu are stupid. Because they don't fucking work that way.

>> No.4530153

Nasu powerlevels work on a rock-paper-scissors basis with 15-20 rungs.

You can't just write it in a list.

>> No.4530169

>>4530134
why the hell didn't Ado Edem kill ORT?
He should be able to if Type Venus helps him

>> No.4530187

>>4530169
did you read notes?

>> No.4530203

>>4530187
part of

>> No.4530207

>>4530187
where do you read notes even

>> No.4530224

>>4530169

ORT was unmentioned in Notes. Type-Venus has no relation to Ado Edem, V/V hanged out with Gun God before he got crossed out by The Cross.

>>4530207

Googling 'angel notes translation', first result
http://nrvnqsr.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=walk&action=display&thread=3210

>> No.4530244

>>4530224
Why didn't I know about the angel part. . .

anyway, I guess a forum thread is fine too

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>>4530244

Have a visual reference of Gun God and "the angel" (now referred to as V/V).

>> No.4530255

>>4530250
Gun God looks like a bamf

>> No.4530260

>>4530255
...Bamf?

>> No.4530262

Bad
Ass
Mother
Fucker

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4530265

>>4530260
One badass motherfucker, that's what.

>> No.4530403

>>4530120
Archetype Earth said that the laws of the emptiness and the laws of the planet are but different things.

>> No.4530428

Why is Sakura so high in that list?

>> No.4530434

>>4530120
Well, it's a very small instant in the conclusion of the story where she supposedly can do that. not a constant we use for every possible situation.

>> No.4530440

>>4530428
because dark sakura is ultra powerful and the most powerful normal magus thakn to all the shit she has

>> No.4530445

>>4530428
her tits contain pure magic

>> No.4530453

>>4530445
And her vagina is full of it.

>> No.4530488

>>4529979
Does anyone else read over this list every time it's posted?

>> No.4530501

>>4530428
unlimited mana, regeneration hax and another rock paper scissors situation vs servants. Not like those are her default power levels and her max output power doesn't really compare to some others.

>> No.4530524

>>4530440
She stopped being 'normal' the moment she was connected to Angra. Though while she has type advantage vs Spirits, she has still her normal maximum output. And the regeneration hax is as much a human body still allows.

>> No.4530553

How far is Akashic Shiki on this list jp?

>> No.4530561

>>4530553
>Aoko = Barthomeloi = Kojirou = Ciel = "Ryougi Shiki" = Souren Araya (within the Ogawa Building)

>> No.4530570

>>4530553
The list is bogus for starters.
Secondly, cannot measure or gauge, since it's a very small instant and you have no idea what she can do. Assumingly 'COntrol Akasha=do whatever the fuck you want'

>> No.4530580

>>4530570
according to the novels she IS akasha, at least that's what i got from it

but it only surfaces to protect itself or something like that

>> No.4530588

>>4530580
Simply put, she has a connection to it. Hence, mr Souren wanting to hijack her.
But 99% of the time, the connection manifests only as her eyes. She is not a wish machine.

>> No.4530596

why is princess Arc so awesome

>> No.4530600

>>4530596
Long hair.
Long hair is beautiful.

>> No.4530613

>>4530600
don't forget the long and beautiful dress...
oh yeah those hair are awesome.

>> No.4530620

Is Princess Arc still an airhead?

>> No.4530624

Princess Arc, the sleepy and calm princess

>> No.4530626
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>>4530624

>sleepy and calm

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>>4530626

>> No.4530632
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>>4530630

Why didn't she just use Sacchin's lap? She'd finally be useful for something.

>> No.4530635

>>4530632
Cause she is dust in the wind.

>> No.4530642

>>4530630

Attempt at autocunnilingus: failed.

>> No.4530648

Nasuverse is shit, Kohaku could beat ORT if Nasu want it with some plot hax.

>> No.4530650

>>4530648

No, ORT is unfortunately one of those absolutes Nasu wrote.

Now, Kohaku beating a Servant or Sorcerer, maybe.

>> No.4531111

>>4530089
Warachia can only use Arcueid's body at 30%, not 40%

>> No.4531131

>>4531111
>calling him warachia
lolno.

>> No.4531177

too many things wrong with the bottom half?

>> No.4531189

>>4530648
>>4530650
Kohaku can't, but Magical Amber can.

>> No.4531191

>“….The Whirl of the Root. The place where the causes of everything swirl, the place where everything is prepared and because of that there’s nothing there. That’s what I really am. I’m only connected to it, but I’m a piece of it. That would make me the same existence, wouldn’t it?

>I can do anything because of that…..Hmm yes, rearranging the laws of matter so small it’s invisible, or going back in time and changing the evolutionary tree of life itself is possible. It’s simple for me to rearrange the order of the current world. I wouldn’t be remaking the world, but crushing the old world with a new world.”

So despite all this, she's barely Ciel rank? The hell?

>> No.4531218

>>4531191
It's just the Alaya version of Marble Phantasm bro.

>> No.4531226

>>4531191
Once again:
Refers to her maximum fighting efficiency, POTENTIAL WISH MACHINE not regarded for obvious fucking reasons.
95% of teh story, her connection to Akasha has ONLY her eyes as a result.
That's your basis.
Is it that fucking hard to realize?

>> No.4531234

>Type Mercury (ORT) = Ado Edem = Type Moon (Crimson Moon) => Type Jupiter

fxd

>> No.4531244

>>4531234
Type Moon is considered the weakest type though.

>> No.4531277

Q: If you had to pick the strongest three characters among all of your works (Kara no Kyoukai, Tsukihime, Fate, DDD), who would they be?

(Ishikawa Prefecture/Holy Panda)

Nasu: Magical Amber (Ruby-chan). Neco Arc. Tiger....I mean, seriously speaking, 1. Arcueid, 2. "Ryougi Shiki", 3. the Original Demon, I'd say.
(excluding Servants)


"Ryougi Shiki" here means Akashic Shiki for sure so Omnipotent Shiki ain't as Omnipotent as everyone thinks.

>> No.4531278

So, are there any clues as to why Gaia was unable to make a Type-Earth? I've heard people say that humanity is kind of like Type-Earth, seeing as we were able to survive Gaia's death and all.

>> No.4531290

>>4531278
it made a few but Shinra and Cloud had to kill them all

>> No.4531291

>>4531278
We already fucked her up hard enough, she could not make one from scratch.
Of course, Gaia did make an Absolute Primate Killer as an answer, and then the True Ancestors.

>> No.4531294

>>4531290
You mean NERV and Shinji.

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>>4531290

Chaos is kinda like Type-Moon and Omega Weapon is somewhat like a reverse Type-Venus. Go figure.

>> No.4531321

Why do planets need types anyway?

>> No.4531327

>>4531321
for powerlevel discussions

>> No.4531331

>>4531321
Not just planets, the moon has one too.

I wonder if other moons have them too, that we don't know about.

>> No.4531332

>>4531244
Crimson Moon has a Knight arm called "Real World". Crimson Moon's and the True Ancestors mission is to return the world to its original state. Even though his Knight Arm is useless in the present world, that weapon is perfect at the time of Notes. Ado Edem would have a really hard time against him, this goes for the other Types as well

>> No.4531333

>>4531321
A biiiig guy to enforce your will.
Or you could say the ultimate lifeform that prevails over all others becomes one naturally.

>> No.4531336

>>4531332
His world is still dead, thus by default weaker.

>> No.4531339

>>4531321

Four or so theoretical functions.

1. "Soul" of the planet (Earth's would be Gaia, we can only assume it'd be like Mercury's is Hermes and Venus's is Aphrodite or something) wishes to create a host for itself (that isn't a rock-chunk).
2. "Guardian" of the planet (DESTROY ALL THREATS)
3. "Last thing" of the planet before its death (if "survival of the fittest" is how life works, the Type creature is "the fittest")
4. Quirk of creation, obligatory to have. This would make Gaia an anomaly.

>> No.4531341

>>4531331
The moon is also a planet you know, just one orbiting another planet. They aren't fundamentally different, just their situation.

>> No.4531342

>>4531331
I'll bet Type-Titan is awesome

>> No.4531349

Type-Milky Way for the win

>> No.4531358

>>4531349

Galaxies don't have souls.

Neither do stars.

>> No.4531363

>>4531339
>3. "Last thing" of the planet before its death (if "survival of the fittest" is how life works, the Type creature is "the fittest")

If this is true, then the humans killing off the planet is the natural and correct order of things. The last human or whatever would become the type and that's why one couldn't be mad before.

It would also be seriously trolling gaia.

>> No.4531369

>>4531358
But jupiter is almost the same as a star. Surely being on fire doesn't make much of a difference?

>> No.4531372

>>4531369

Well, obviously it does.

How long are you gonna keep your soul if you're ON FIRE?

>> No.4531384

>>4531363

Well, Gaia died before there was only one creature left. This was apparently a serious anomaly, which is the entire reason Angel Notes happened.

>> No.4531387

>>4531372
I was under the impression that souls could remain on fire indefinitely. Has the bible lied to me?

(also what is ciel a nun of if god doesn't exist in nasu world?)

>> No.4531396

>>4531336
In Notes the Red Moon is upon the Earth, that gives him a huge power boost, he is nicknamed Crimson Moon for a reason

>> No.4531397

>>4531387
All religions are true in Nasuverse.

>> No.4531406

>>4531363
More like 'Last living being along with the planet, thus only it channels the planet's energy'.
Yet humans(a fuck load of them) lived while the planet 'died'.

>> No.4531416

>>4531387
A power their faith allows them to channel and is not magic(mana based or other similar resources) exists.
That is enough for them.
Sorcerers have a different approach as to what these miracles are.

>> No.4531422

>>4531396

Either way he's not very active during Notes, so we don't have a gauge of his power then. Nor even ORT's lined up against the rest, we merely go by Character Material stating that ORT is essentially the strongest anything can be, ever.

>> No.4531427

Notes takes place way in the future right?

There's gotta be some humans floating out in space or in another galaxy away from all that bullshit, or something.

>> No.4531437

>>4531427
Apparently, we did not work on Space travel well.
Arc hopes we can reach the sea of stars eventually.

>> No.4531443

>>4531427
all the other planets are probably dead and can't support life.

also the types would have nuked them on the way to earth.

>> No.4531444

>>4531427
So the Types are here to free us from the shackles of gravity?

>> No.4531447

>>4531387
God does exist in the Nasuverse, he just doesn't care about us.

>> No.4531449

>>4531443
See the "another galaxy" part. I don't think they'd bother going that far.

>> No.4531452

If we try to terraform another planet the planet will terraform us back.

>> No.4531480

>>4531449
>>4531427

There's nowhere to really go.
We can only assume every planet has a Type which would be hostile to us.

>> No.4531520

>>4531480
There's plenty of places to go. It's a huge universe.

Unless space travel just didn't happen in the Nasuverse, I'd say there's got to be some humans on a distant planet somewhere, even long before the events of Notes.

>> No.4531530

>>4531520

>Unless space travel just didn't happen in the Nasuverse

I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Apparently, once the protective veil of Gaia's Reality is removed, The toxic and mutagenic Gin/Grain bombards the hell out of everything.

>> No.4531542

I think the Nasuverse is silly because planets have feelings in it.

>> No.4531550

>>4531542
Thank god you picked the more important aspect of that setting's silliness.

>> No.4531554

>>4531530
Well that's retarded.

Really, I'm just trying to imagine what an awesome space adventure written by Nasu would be like.

>> No.4531559

>>4531554
It's because of a legend that says a crazy old man picked a fight with the moon once and then it tried to crash on Earth.
While we were saved then, we dare not repeat this shit.

>> No.4531566

>>4531554
I can smell it. You're a fanfiction writer.

>> No.4531568

>>4531559
DAMMIT ZELRETCH!

>> No.4531574

>>4531566
Nope, just thinking of possibilities.

>> No.4531585

>>4531530
Wait... so when along the line did humanity just say "fuck it" and stop going on space missions and shit?

>> No.4531588

>>4531585
We are too busy building Time machines (trying to) the last 100 years to develop Space Travel.
Or maybe Vern did not exist in the Nasuverse.
Who knows?

>> No.4531592

Too expensive
Nothing in space
More important things to worry about

Nukes are funner

>> No.4531593

>>4531588
Or maybe we're all just speculating because Nasu himself didn't put much thought into it?

>> No.4531605

>>4531554
>>4531480
>>4531530
>>4531444
Okay, so then, since types are the only things that can survive space, it becomes apparent that the purpose of types is to allow space travel.(or rather, to create a being that can withstand it.)

Thus the only sort of things in space are types and maybe future humans would gain enough power to travel the stars and do whatever. They'd have to be able to slay the native types anyway.

So it'd either be that they created an artificial world or they used a hollowed out type.

>>4531530
If the universe is made of gin, could gun god blow it all up? Him and V/V could blast a trail through the stars.

>> No.4531606

>>4531593
He has not expanded on actual extent of technology at all if you notice.
It is kinda secondary.

>> No.4531618

>>4531605
Not really, no.
Gin was released in ridiculous quantities later on Earth.
It doesn't exist everywhere nor does it compose everything.

>> No.4531658

>>4531618
So how is that going to affect people who left the planet before then?

>> No.4531803

>>4531278
It says so in KT.

>> No.4531851

>Angry Type-Moon Fan !MOONRXwPDU

Sage

>> No.4531882

>>4531851
LoL, slow emperor

>> No.4533710

Where is my fucking Altrouge huh?!

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