Elona and Elin thread.

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Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for plus: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin Demo 9.10: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BXxcK0t1zkJFn-5mVaX93OabUFJKrVnO/view?

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Oops, forgot previous thread link.

>>44448087

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why is the latest custom-gx detected as a virus in windows defender?
> JianmengYu
looks like a chink

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>>44784471
What does it say?

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>>44784626

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>>44784657
the defender literally kicks in while I was playing, kills the game, deleted the exe

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>>44784657
Try deleting that one and download it again, see if it still detect

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>>44784678
already did, still getting deleted

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>>44784695
Write an issue on the git then I guess

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>>44784703
> issues are disabled
https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX

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>>44784719
suseg

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>>44784719
I clicked "New issue" and it worked normally. You're either lying or in a parallel universe. Probably the latter. Start hating jews instead of asians so you can return to the good timeline.

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>>44784719
>>44784771
I just enabled them, sorry about the antivirus thingy but I dont really know how to deal with that. (Im just using the tools created by ruin0x11). If you are really worried about the risk of virus you could download ruin's 2.15 and use your own compiled exe over it.

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>dare you enter my magical realm?

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Oh lol, Halloween-themes dungeon.

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>>44784862
>>44784917

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Pretty nice kickstarter update. New festival details, rebalance of races and classes from Elona in addition to new ones, racial perks. Also roadmap for the next 2 months leading up to alpha in Dec.

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>>44785030
Link?

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>>44788174
kickstarter.com/projects/noacat/posts/3919845

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>>44789265
>surgery
Damn dude

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I havent played elona in ages, are the guides for elona+ also also correctish for oomsec?

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>>44789375
found omake guides instead

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>>44789265
>祭り固有のアイテムや同人誌を販売する屋台
hmmm

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>>44784947
what?

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>>44793002
Trick or treat

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>>44793230
I really should replay plus sometime...
Does anyone still have 1.89 or 1.90 ver?

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>>44793262
Does omake not have Halloween?

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>>44789560
Guess that's where that painting will be sold

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>>44793262
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3340109923483964385
>Download links for Plus 1.90 (since old versions always get deleted): [4] [5]

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>>44794994
>https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3340109923483964385
Ah, that's it, thanks anon I'll play it later.

>>44793538
I don't remember any.

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>>44789345
>japanse totalbiscuit

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>>44795157
That's a big sister

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>>44797500
4U

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>>44793230
God, I hate Halloween.

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>>44800755
You know you can just pretend to give them candy when you have none and take a 1 karma hit, right?

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>>44800778
Oh ,no, I would always carry treats. Just hate Halloween in general. And the antichrist.

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>>44800755
That plushie on top of the comfy bed looks like Poppo from OJ

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>>44800836
It's actually HoiHoi from Ichigeki Sacchuu!! HoiHoi-san.

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>>44800755
Couch Throw.gif

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>>44801594

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>>44784403
FAQ was last updated in 2022 are there really no more updates needed ?

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So what triggers a silent autosave? Just threw away hours of progress.

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>>44800962
Does she kill the bugs?

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At the bottom of the dungeon for the thieves' hideout quest and can't find the key for the last set of stairs, any idea where to look?

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>>44808897
nevermind, I'm stupid

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>>44784471
Elona and its variants have a long history of false virtus detections. I think it stems from HSP being shitty. If you are worried, I recommend compiling CGX from source yourself.

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>>44809264
Where's the Godot port?

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>>44812133
Given that all the ports like openefia never released I wouldn't hold my breath

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How do I save myself and my pets from getting blown the fuck out repeatedly by the hounds?

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>>44813857
Get some resistance

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>>44813872
But what's the best way? I give them all the gear but they still melt quickly whenever I walk into a nest or another type of dungeon filled with hounds. If it's one or two it's not a big deal, but once there's a full room or rapid succession of hounds it becomes a race against time to kill them all.

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>>44813857
Resistances are pretty much it. Other than that, you as the player can play smart by keeping your distance to avoid being hit by multiple breaths, but melee pets will always be lambs to the slaughter for hound packs until they reach the point they can facetank them all

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>>44813934
Most of my pets are melee...

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>>44813991
If you're using customai, you could try teaching them spells to bolster their resistances and heal themselves. As someone who ran a football team, I taught all my pets to keep the resistance buffs on them, and to heal when below 30% hp.
They still died, of course, but sometimes there were survivors!

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>>44813991
Also, shadow step + tag teams are a huge help. Shadow step lets them get a swing in before the breath spam, and the tag team lets the partner also get a swing in while enabling them to protect eachother from the AoE with that weird tag team protection mechanic. Every extra turn spent alive and swinging counts for the dumb pets, and if they're lucky the hounds will go down first.

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>>44814071
At what point do I get to teach them spells? I can give them some of my skills but spells are no go.

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>>44814097
I've played around with tag team but that usually ends up with one partner dying very quickly.

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>doesn't know how to respond
Well, this ain't working out. Can't even teach them shadow step, and a concept as simple as "if you aren't buffed, buff yourself" causes them to shut down. Can someone just tell me how to get my resistances up?

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>a wild elona killer appeared!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2399160/Soulash_2/
oh no

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>>44814234
>"Teach a spell" allows you to have your pet begin to learn a spell. The conditions are: 1) You must have leveled the spell to at least 50. 2) The pet's Casting skill level must be greater than the difficulty of the spell divided by 15. Spell difficulty is ignored for magic dart and heal light spells.
>"Teach an ability" allows you to have your pet begin to learn an ability. The conditions are: 1) You must know the ability. 2) Your pet's primary attribute for that ability must be at least 2x the stamina requirement for the ability.
If you're in super early game it's probably not within your reach yet. RIP your pets.
But you can still teach them shadow step, surely. That's only like, 2 stamina right? Easily within reach for them. This way they'll at least do damage before dying miserably.

That said, if you're as early as I think, they probably don't have enough slots to make customAI worth it.
>Currently available slots: <x>. This displays the number of tactical slots your pet has unlocked. This is calculated by the lower of the pet's LER/5 or your LER/5. There is a minimum of 3 slots, and a maximum of 15.
With just 3 slots, you can only give them a basic
>if target distance = 1, attack melee
>if target distance < 5, shadow step
>if target distance > 5, move forward
which might still be better than vanilla AI depending on what pet it is, but definitely lacking if you want them to stay alive with buffs/heals.

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>>44814403
>Can someone just tell me how to get my resistances up
Certain corpses, when eaten, improve resistance of that element up to a limit. If you're on a newer version of elona+, you only need to eat one corpse of each type to hit the limit, otherwise it takes like 4.
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Food#Resistance_gain
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Food/Technical?so=search#Corpse-Specific
These lists cover which corpses give which benefits. Feed yourself and your pets the corpses that give the resistances.

That, and checking gear you find for resistances are you only options. Make sure to mix an acidproof and fireproof potion on any gear you want to keep, otherwise they'll get shredded over time.

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>>44814560
>Soulless: the roguelike the sequel
No

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>>44816154
nta but what's wrong with soulash? it looked decent and the reviews were good

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>>44816325
It's just too shallow and boring for me, there's nothing else to do other than level grind.

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>>44814560
>Soulash 2
The first one was a piece of shit that fell way short of what it promised. I don't see any reason to think the sequel will be any different.

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>>44784862
>>44784917
Which graphics pack is this?

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>>44819096
>>/jp/thread/44236432#p44265752

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which version of GX should i play, the original branch (ruin0x11) or the newest one?

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Best way to farm big quantities of herb seeds, or herbs in general?
Feeding 10 Cute Fairies every day seems like a huge pain (or are there easy ways to overcome the micromanaging?), but i want to reach a point where i only eat herbs, or even (Herb)ed herbs, so i need LOTS of them.

On a kinda related note, do Cute fairies spawned in ranches (so not in your party) also spit out seeds if properly fed?

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>>44824008
cashing in your little sister rewards for Kumiromi Statues. Each one has its own cooldown, I have 10 that I carry around and use whenever they're off CD.

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>>44824008
CGX has a better quests tweak. Turn that on and the scaling for harvest time rewards for going over the target goes much further. I've never needed an extra source of herb seeds after that.

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>>44824008
>Herbed herbs
Hadn't really considered doing that. Though does the stat gains from herbed in food actually differ much with what is the best food item that's herbed in? Seems to me like any food item that's herbed in gives the same stat growth in every stat.

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>>44824008
Just get Scissors of Kumiromi, everything else is a temporary stopgap.

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>>44824336
The herbed flag makes a food item give 6000 stat xp to all categories except luck on top of the base amount.

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>>44824036
>>44824340
Sadly it's a new character, i can't yet reach act 2
>>44824100
I will try that, how many herb seeds per quest usually, and with what score?

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CGX still triggering anti virus?

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I've tried the Elin demo and found it pretty good. The only things I didn't like where the controls, the map and the small areas.

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>made in unity
is the dev fucked

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>>44836096
No.

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>>44836096
If he was leaning on the Unity Plus tier, maybe. Most likely he's on Unity Pro, in which case there's no change unless he starts making over $1 million per year.

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Necromancer chads RISE UP

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so i was playing elin and the amount of crafting tables are autismal as fuck
is there like a wiki on which is which
i cant even do anything because i dont know how to craft ranged weapons

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How good is Elin's controller support? I have a ps4 controller so I was thinking I could just macro a bunch of stuff with the trackpad.

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>>44837676
Most of the stuff is messy and unorganised because noa thought people would mess with it for half an hour

Vast majority of benches and recipes are fucked, some things like fine planks are intentionally not in

Crafting and balance, i.e. making the game actually playable, is slated to be done in Nov

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>>44837640
I really necromancy in video games but in this one i feel like i am too dumb to try it.

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>>44839310
It's about the same as a pet build, except that you get your starter in Lumiest Graveyard instead of Vernis, and you craft better pets from corpse parts instead of just fusing skills into them.
Although I'm not sure how the endgame looks nowadays. The old necromancy guides were written before the change to Necro Remodel. Is dragon spam still the way to go, or is it too risky now?

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>>44838133
Non existent.

The game pretty much requires a mouse for play because of the pointing and clicking.

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last thread someone told me there won't be multiplayer, but I just reread the kickstarter page and it says there will. so that's cool

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>>44840731
That's not what most people would consider multiplayer.

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>>44840754
True. They called that "massively single-player" when Spore did it.

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Why did Noa just let chinks take his stuff and make money off of it? If he had even gotten a shitty chinese profit deal of 10/90 he'd have enough cash to fund Elin on his own.

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>>44842132
Because sometimes an autist will love what he's made so deeply that he will share it with people for free

He also gave away Elona's source code back in the day to anyone who asked and thought the Kickstarter would raise ten to twenty thousand tops

It's a grand and intoxicating innocence to be sure, but you need that autism level to make something like that

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>>44839310
Its easy as hell,ptobably the easiest playstyle as corpses dont need equips or anything
>>44840059
Skeletons early and once your necro flame is good you can survive your own liches/dragon AOE spells

Use book of aurtehom for extra spook vibes

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>>44814560
the charm of elona isn't really the gameplay but just the wacky things you can do and encounter

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>>44805224
I was using her as the replacement sprite for Pro-jet(Cleaning doll, the maid in ST gives for killing the roaches). Funnily enough, on the wiki, Pro-jet was intended as a reference to HoiHoi.
She's metal and functions like a bell, you'll just have to gene engineer hands onto her though.

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Is it normal to have almost no AP at the start of the second act?

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>>44843557
does your build rely on speed? if so, that's what killed all your AP gains

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>>44843666
Nta but why would that be?

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>>44843557
You need to kill enemies around level 50 to start gaining AP
>>44843702
If you're faster than enemies, then you won't gain any AP. The slower you are, the more you gain.

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>>44843666
speed and lots of pets

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>>44843755
>If you're faster than enemies, then you won't gain any AP. The slower you are, the more you gain.
Oh that's dumb, is that a new thing?

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>>44843775
>new
bitch that's always been a '''feature''' with elona+
garbage, I can't advance at all

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>>44843786
I didn't realize, thought it was more level dependent rather than speed. Did CGX fix this at all?

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>>44843755
STARTING speed you dingus, not CURRENT speed.
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/AP
>The Speed INI value is equal to the character's speed at the time of creation.

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>>44844118
This. This is why you take every pet to Mails and have her reset its stats, because the process also recalculates speed and attribute ini.

The only pets who don't need this are those with a starting speed of under 50 and stats under 20.

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>>44844329
Why enable such a blatant anti-Bell bias?

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>>44844417
ano is a secret snail supremacist

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The ini thing scaling off on-creation stats is a relic that should be done away with I believe. All it does at present is punish you for not starting with slow lv 1-10 pets.
Speed isn't even that difficult to raise anymore, and its importance has been nerfed. Especially in base Elona+ outside of CGX tweaks.

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>>44844561
It was more balanced when the AP costs for increasing speed or life were directly proportional to the character's current speed/life, so raising a 800 spd bell's speed cost as much as doing it to a pet you had raised to 800 spd.

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>>44844329
>This is why you take every pet to Mails and have her reset its stats
Didn't even know this was a thing. It's not mentioned on the AP wiki page.
Wish I knew this sooner, it's too late to be worth resetting my pet's stats.

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>>44850876
I'm surprised there are no snail pianist art

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>>44844417
Because thats the supposed downside of catching stuff with absurd stats,you dont need to level it as much beside getting better gear

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Should I boost a pet's potential before I level them up with the gene machine?

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>>44852603
No. Gene engineering directly alters stats like the fragments and doesn't add XP, so potential doesn't matter. The final value will be the average of the two values if the recipient is lower and unchanged otherwise.

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>>44860700
For me, it's onee-chan.

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>>44853431
My defender seems super weak at level 36 after I gene engineered him up, which is why I asked.

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>>44861004
Levels are largely irrelevant as a measurement of power and only give a bit of hp and mp. Stats and skills are far more important and gene engineering doesn't give the latter.

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>>44861004
Levels are good for gauging the power of an enemy, but players and their pets can level up through strange means which can result in wild level:stat disparity.

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Can I sort my inventory by weight at least?

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>>44861645
Not if you're playing CGX. But shift+i lets you stack and sort by freshness if that helps at all.

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Noa posted plat coin designs. Old prototype first:

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New design:

Mold images are on his twitter.

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Why couldn't Ano give us Noa's South Tyris?

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>>44863425
Was there even enough material

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>>44867033
It's a violent, uninhabitable hellhole. That alone tells you it does not have things like multiple thriving towns and underground casinos dedicated to an OC Goddess.

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>>44867033
There really wasn't. Last update before noa stopped dev was the smoke and pipe. South Tyris was a big blank which is why plus, omake and mobile all have their own interpretations.

Part of south Tyris is in Elin, the northern bit with Mysilia and Olivinia that's just past where the border crossing is in Elona. Presumably that's the still habitable parts.

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>>44867630
Is he planning on adding the rest of the region?

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>>44867653
I don't know. The map cuts off south of Olivinia, so I don't think so.

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>>44867933
Aww damn

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Can you play this with no pets?or at least only one? For no me and my little girl are doing fine but i am only on lv 20 which is probably nothing compared to the scale of this game.

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>>44868223
>Can you play this with no pets
Of course, it even has a feat for people doing no pet playthroughs

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>>44868223
Yeah, you can get by with just one pet even in Act 2. You'll probably collect more eventually (god pets if nothing else), but you can leave them on a ranch/in the dojo.

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>>44867963
I think instead of going broad, he's going deep. Elona had a lot of empty space on the north Tyris map. The Sep update mentioned a Japanese-style Village of Mifu, and there are 7 top tier backers each with a major city.

I'd personally rather have him fill in the empty space, especially out east by Noyel and the void.

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>>44868335
>I'd personally rather have him fill in the empty space, especially out east by Noyel and the void.

Agreed. Vanilla Elona's world map always felt unfinished.

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what are the chances that the elin release will be postponed?

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>>44815130
So you have to be a caster to teach spells? What's the point? I have shadow step but I can't teach them that, I can only teach them shadow jump.

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>>44870601
You can level spells by paying the wizards to teach you. They give exp for entire categories of spells for 7 platinum. Doing that a dozen or so times, after waiting for the potential to reach 400% again, can easily get you to level 50, or at least close enough for spell bonus points to push you there.

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>>44869675
Why would it be postponed?

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>>44871233
No reason for it to be. They already said the Unity thing won't affect anything and the alpha is still slated for mid to late December.

Just shitposting I guess.

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Lol.
Lmao.
Moral hectoring, and the land battleship got even more useless.

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>>44873666
Huh? what is this?

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>>44873666
so this is how it ends...

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>>44873666

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>>44873777
From the E+ 2.20 changelog:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona+)#2.20:_detailed_changelog
The "moral hectoring" part is obviously written for humorous effect though. There's no way Ano means it seriously considering the setting.

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lvl 20 noob
trying to do ballsacks quest to clean the sewers but some invisible shit keeps covering me in oil and blazing my ass
how do i reveal it?
potion of clarity or smthn?
help pls

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>>44877409
either an item that lets you see invisible or
manual target every tile until it says "you target something"

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>>44877409
Welcome to pumpkins and invisible monsters.

Like the other anon said, see invis gear.

You can manually target tiles with *.

Wet enemies lose invis, so bubble ball works. Or just aoe nuke where you think it might be.

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>>44877624
>>44877691
thanks fellers

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>>44871479
Keep in mind that "they" is Noa, and he severely underestimated the popularity of the mobile game and the Kickstarter.
Why isn't there a mobile port for Elona shooter?

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>>44877691
Manual targeting doesn't work in 2.19

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>>44877409
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Invisible_Monsters
If you can cast Bubble Storm or have a Rod of Bubble Ball, that'd work.

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>>44878474
You sure you're using the numpad and not shift+8?

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>>44863334
Scut!

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Has anybody used 'the Camp' yet? Any of it worth it? Seems like a pain to get going

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>>44882976
Looking at the reward list in the changelog, there's nothing there that couldn't be acquired more easily through other means.

So it's just there for the RP.

Like all the other systems, I don't expect this to be followed up on or fleshed out.

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Which feats are worth getting with AP?

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>>44883681
Why does he do it? It's not like it has to be super fleshed out, it could be a simple fun addition. Instead it's all half-assed teasers for something good, like town management.

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>>44881246
Yes, I'm using *. Invisible enemies are truly invisible even when I'm hitting "something" in that exact space.

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>>44887364
Ano's the sort who likes to start new projects because he enjoys the initial burst of inspiration, but then he gets bored before he finished all the grunt work. I think most creators tend toward that pattern when they aren't working for money or deadlines. Disciplined autists who plug away steadily on a roadmapped project are the exception, not the rule.

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>>44887367
Equipment that can sense invisible creatures is definitely the best solution. Probably the easiest static equipment to get that has it I know of is either the lucky dagger from the goddess of luck or the sages helm from the workshop south of Noyell.

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>>44887487
I just let my pets function as alarm systems and run back and forth in place.

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>>44887474
Oh phew, I thought that was just an ADHD thing.

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>>44887487
>sages helm
I will NEVER give up my animal ears for that.

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>>44887581
>>44888635
In general I do recommend getting the lucky dagger. Since it not only senses invisible creatures but also protects against thieves, and it also still does both those things if equiped in the shoot slot as a throwing weapon.

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>>44888635
You can use a wardrobe or something to hide equipment layers and keep your animal ears visible

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>>44888772
What's that got to do with my etherwind-powered animal ears?

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>>44888814
I assumed it was just a cosmetic thing and not you being locked out of wearing a helmet entirely.
anyways, you can also add animal ears to your sprite through the wardrobe I think.

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>>44888849
I honestly' can't remember helmets ever showing up in the first place. When did that get added?

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>>44888857
Other than the helmet accessory, never.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get my pet to stop overcasting and just attack normally when MP is low?

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>>44890536
Vanilla pet AI does that?

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>>44890566
Yes, if by vanilla you mean custom.

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>>44890572
if self mp < 10% attack(ranged)
set that somewhere above the spell commands

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>>44890588
So if I have it set to debuff the enemy, put that in front?

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>>44890611
To keep it from overcasting, yes.
Alternatively, you could include
"if self mp > 10% and"
before the spellcast line. It takes up more slots but it lets you control how much mp the pet needs before it's willing to cast the next line's spell.

This is one of my mage pet's AI. I have them set to only cast offensive spells over while 30% mp, only cast healing rain over 20% mp, and to only cast cure of jure over 10% mp. This way it saves 10-20% mp for healing. After those checks, I included the "if self mp < 30% attack(ranged)" to prevent the debuff spells from dipping into that reserve MP.

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Why don't homes have day/night cycles? Now that's a nice QoL feature Ano could add.

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>>44891020
Nah, I think it's fine. Would rather not have my vendors falling asleep randomly when I need them.

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>>44891332
I'd like to see the sunset from my estate.

[Anonymous No.]

Elona Mobile reaching levels of absurdity recently. Not mine, just saw a video on Twiiter while looking up Elin's Inn.

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>>44891414
What am I looking at?

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>>44891601
Challenge Mode of a Zeome Boss Fight apparently. Look like he is around level 3000+ with some boosted stats and resists.

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>>44891601
found the original video. NTA but he probably fucked up the conversion of the video when he downloaded this from twitter.

https://twitter.com/Alymbus/status/1711319724720869442?t=Nar7v-BZ1vsm_l__FKsKAA&s=19

[Anonymous No.]

>>44867033
I did some digging around on the Japanese elonagather wiki (elonagather.wiki.fc2.com) and the original plans were briefly spelled out and have been around since 2014.

Omake is the most faithful with Trion, Tormat, Carlia and Khios. Only Port Serria is OC.

Mobile is kinda accurate with Tormat, Chios and Caria.

The bulk of the continent is occupied by nomadic Juere.

So yeah, the Plus setting doesn't even pretend to stick to the original.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897059
Plus has Act 2 start out in Port Kapul but it doesn't let you use it, instead you have this supremely awkward transitory map at the border.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897501
Eh, I'd say mobile's with Port Kapul is worse. You have to pay 3 million gold before you can go back and forth, you can't use return to go to Port Kapul or directly between the continents.

[Anonymous No.]

Any reason why my pet stopped casting spells that do anything? The log will say they cast a spell, but there's nothing afterwards. No enemy reacts to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44898141
Nevermind, I made the routine too complicated so the pet kept attacking itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44891414
>>44893883
Damn, apparently they're only level 200 doing that shit. Is that max level for player characters or something? As someone who's played it on and off I have no idea what end game is supposed to be like there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44815130
>shadow step, surely. That's only like, 2 stamina right?
27 is a long way away from 2 anon. Almost none of my pets can learn it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44898329
max level but you can still raise your stats apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>44899334
Though you probably gotta do some really crazy shit to make your stats scale up that much do deal with level 3000 enemies without leveling past 200 and fire all those lasers and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897059
Then why is there no new generic dialogue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44888695
But I already have a mournblade+black monkshood combo. Isn't there a ring or something I can use instead?

[Anonymous No.]

My pet is set to use their shift core at 100% gauge using custom ai and I never see them transform. Why's it not working?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900578
Endgame there are core of nefia from awakened nefia you can use to fuse see invisible onto equipment via artifact fusion.

[Anonymous No.]

Video games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900189
The secret is to keep eating meat to raise your resists high enough and raise skills and mastery levels. The game also has hero cheeses and other stat boosting food that can increase as long you eat specific food and herbs. Those lasers are probably from pets and having spell triggers on your weapons and other equipment. The game has a pet progression system that gives you additional stats and buffs depending on which pet is active as well as the ability to collect different kinds of uniques to greatly increase stats. This is their gacha. Although you can earn this eventually if you play frequently, there is still an added concept of luck to it. This is probably why Elin exceeded expected funding as the game as some hardcore whales both in China and Japan.

The level cap is to create a point of difficulty in the game and allow players to focus on other aspects and factors other than just level, but its more than likely to force noobs who dont know how to become stronger to whale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900848
I've barely started Act 2...

[Anonymous No.]

What the hell is Nefia again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901209
(Shrug) There's also the exilesquid. Breed a provocasquid's moveset (or custom AI) it onto an exile, and seal spacts so it only uses hydro fang. Since exiles innately see invis, it will target invisible monsters and tag them with hydro fang, making them wet and thus visible.

Seriously though, we've given you a bunch of solutions. Personally I go with sage's helm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901220
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Nefia
>Nefia, also known as dungeons are places on the world map where you can go adventuring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900848
I've never gotten a see invisibility jewel to drop. Do they even exist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901621
I've gotten them, but it's like a 1 in 50 chance or something for a jewel to be seeInvis. Takes ages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901621
The core of nefia can be any skill, any stat, status resistance, or see invis.

To get any particular one in that big pool is hard.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good sprite pack for 2.19?

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good sprite pack for 2.20?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901220
>ELONA (shorthand for Eternal League of Nefia)
Nefia is the N word in Elona

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901600
>>44907006
Why are they in an eternal league?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908631
What material is associated with the eternal prefix for items?

[Anonymous No.]

Where am I supposed to find a book of mutation? Just keep hoping I'll stumble across one in a nefia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908650
Ether

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908676
And what does the game open with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908656
If I remember right they're just exceedingly rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908684
People blab about how another hearts are so easy to get but I've never seen one...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908681
A boat

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908688
Don't you need to craft them?

[Anonymous No.]

How is necromancy after 2.18 changes? Haven't tried it in years and was thinking about starting new character.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are all the previous version downloads dead fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908805

Which version are you after?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908726
And what do you need to craft <Another Heart>?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44909186
An evolution heart with a potion of mutation irc

[Anonymous No.]

>>44909386
>irc
almost nobody uses that these days
your senility is showing on multiple levels in this post

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908688
Evolution hearts are buyable from invested souvenir shops.

The thing really is that you only need a few, so you stockpile them ahead of time. Like many other things, if you only think about getting one when you need it, it's frustrating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44909452
Nobody but senile old men plays elona or any roguelikes tbdesu

[Anonymous No.]

>>44909502
We're not talking about <Evolution Heart>s, we're talking about <Another Heart>s. I can't fucking get any of the latter, evolution hearts are easy. Hell, it's easier to get machine hearts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908656
Wish I could help but I've had mutation books on autopick and i've had them marked in shops so I can quickly buy then my entire playthrough. I just naturally acquired a stockpile of them over time, you might have to do the same and just put whatever you need them for on hold until it happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44909616
>we're talking about <Another Heart>s. I can't fucking get any of the latter, evolution hearts are easy.

You only need a pot of fusion plus Alchemy 30. Use Recipe of Another evolution and mix an Evolution Heart (or other evolve item) with a pot of mutation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44909665
did what i tell you earlier fly over your head this hard or are you actually senile

[Anonymous No.]

>>44909665
It's not a potion of mutation, a book. Yes, spell books of mutation do exist. Yet they're extremely rare and one of those spell books that you can't reserve at the spellwriter like wish and wizard's harvest. I can't even imagine why. It's not like you'd even want to cast it instead of stock piling pots of evolution, and this with another hearts is the only actual use I can think of for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44909627
>i've had them marked in shops so I can quickly buy then my entire playthrough
You can't reserve them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44909742
Not reserved. Marked so that there's a little mark on the side of the inventory list, so I can quickly spot and buy it while switching through pages.

[Anonymous No.]

Show me my lovely, cute and sexy sister

[Anonymous No.]

Just started playing this. Is there anyway to make default range attack and spell not attacking neutral mobs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44913153
Yeah, don't hit them :)

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to remove a feat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44916021
The karma feats can be removed. Don't think any others can.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't use the "Confess Feelings" with a specific pet no matter how many days/sleeps pass, while with other pets i can.
Any way to fix this if it's a bug?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44917527
elosnack the cdata.s1, change offset 60 of that pet to 0. (a normal value should be 0 or around 4,400,000 - 4,600,000)

[Anonymous No.]

Corpses only raise resistance once, afterwards it's "nothing happens".

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918606

Yeah. See:
>>44815202
>If you're on a newer version of elona+, you only need to eat one corpse of each type to hit the limit, otherwise it takes like 4.
You've hit the cap for res you can gain through eating in that case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918844
>Little##
It's worthless...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918851
Actually from what I've seen, not really i remember it showing how much of that damage you take as a percentage, and it could still be a very significant cut compared to not having resistance. IE, something like taking 12% of that damage compared to no resistance and taking 3% at supreme resistance.

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't you use zero shoot with a throwing weapon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918892
Explain why I get stunlocked to death, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918920
I'd say because damage resists are separate from status effect resistance. I think it factors a little, but having enough lightning to only take 12% damage from lightning breaths won't prevent you from getting paralyzed.

[Anonymous No.]

I missed my chance to catch a ゴキブリ. Is there a way to reload the dungeon or am I SOL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44919146

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Cheating#Resetting_a_town_or_level

[Anonymous No.]

>>44919621
>cheating
nyooo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44924184
For a pest,to be found on a single place and never spawning anywhere else in the game,that may be your only option to get a 'roach

[Anonymous No.]

>get like 11 hours into a character
>multiple launches over a few days
>now windows defender decides to start acting fucky
I miss when I had my own computer instead of being stuck borrowing one. I miss when I had Win10 LTSB and could disable defender all together.

[Derek No.]

>>44927000
im sorry to tell you this its virus

[Anonymous No.]

Does ano have an mp3 variant for Elona+ soundtracks the way that noa has an optional mp3 soundtrack for Elona?

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, drifting into schizo territory...
It does not help that I can't dig or teleport out of this place.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, hearing those weird laughter everytime I killed these damn dolls are quite an experience
I've never experienced this in elona before

[Anonymous No.]

Bumpity bump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44784664
its trying to do you a favor stopping you from wasting your time

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to designate some potions as undrinkable for pets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44936509
No, but they should not be doing that anyway unless you're giving them the potions.

[Anonymous No.]

Newfag here
Can I become gigachad punchman, acquire a wife and go adventuring with my wife?
Also how bad is it if I dont read moonrunes?
I kinda wanna try this game

[Anonymous No.]

>>44943831
how about you try playing the game before you post

[Anonymous No.]

>>44943831
>Can I become gigachad punchman, acquire a wife and go adventuring with my wife?
That's pretty standard, yeah. You might have a slightly easier time early on with a two-handed sword, but it's not really worth worrying about.

[Anonymous No.]

Is DV just fucking useless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44947283
>stack PV
>take 500 attacks
>regen or heal between each one
>stack DV
>take 500 attacks
>explode because 1 got through and 1-shot you
it's just common sense which is more reliable

[Anonymous No.]

>>44947425
The problem was compounded with plus scaling because crits don't miss. Vanilla didn't reach that point where crits became reliable, but plus does.

Also Ano added a bunch of spacts that don't miss, although now some of them are pvdv element, which means dv gives some mitigation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44784403
>last time I played Elona:
2.06 at the latest
>Now its 2.13 stabe
Whats new, is it worth playing again or nah? If I'm being honest I barely remember it. earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44943831
The game is translated in Engrish so you'll get the gist of what is going on, but its the standard anime hero fantasy plot so if you know anime cliches you'll be fine and desu the story isn't what is important about the game.
The game also doesn't pull punches like modern games so expect your head to get caved in often at the beginning, expect quests to be unfair, and expect to end up at Derphy a couple times when you first play.

[Anonymous No.]

fucked up that elon musk made this game

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>44952961
I wish I could have my own government mandated little sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>44943831
Yes, you can do that. With many wives even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44952961
>Level 1
you should level her up.

[Anonymous No.]

Is deepest lvl tracking bugged?
Started new character and cleared few dungeons around 10-20, invested into vendors but couldn't find anyone selling balls for lvl 15+ mobs. Checked journal and it says 0.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44953017
You and me both, anon.

>>44953236
I would but I'm too lazy to train and buff another party member for now.
Especially since I'm too busy exploring custom world nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44802320
Hardly. Most of the mod links are dead like scrapiuna, or link to imgur. It needs an update.

[Anonymous No.]

I didn't know that using the abandoned ranch would delete all of my custom ai progress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44952961
the voynich manuscript rabbit hole

[Anonymous No.]

>>44956235
It's always been that way. If you want to pull artifact duplication shenanigans, you have to put up with spending another 15 minutes in the puppy cave grinding everything back up to 100%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44956390
Yeah, well, I lost 15 whole minutes of progress and I'm mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44956390
Artifact duplication? With the abandoned ranch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44956604
If you gain an artifact that you already have in your party's inventory, it'll turn to stardust. And pets left at an abandoned ranch aren't in your party. That's the basic principle of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>Elona Plus has the PC helping the Yerles empire in a situation that makes the "silly" cyberdome look like the stone age
>Elin has the PC siding with Yerles over dumb wizards
How do both Noa and Ano bow down to Yerles supremacy while others can only gape and gnash their teeth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44836096
>>44837018
theyre still going through with that shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44957016
Don't you know who unity merged with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44956967
Have you considered that they might be idiot Yerlaboos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44836096
dev abandoned the game years ago and the community modders who took over aren't selling the product but their skills and time to make the abandonware game better, so no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44842378
>It's a grand and intoxicating innocence
Dagoth Ur, stop shitposting and give me my next dream, I've been waiting for forever for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44957820
Spoke a pleb soon to be ground under the cybernetically enhanced heel of a yerles master.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44957845
Dagoth Ur and his bit about how you can't kill a god reminds me of something... Do we have any idea what max stats might be like in Elin, like if it'll be the same as in Elona? Has anyone asked about it? I think it'd be interesting to have haver stat caps. Especially when it comes to the gods being able to be stronger with higher stat caps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44958283
God inside Ehekatl had 2000s across the board, which was also the cap of what players are capable of. All NPCs have the same data structure as the PC. What actually made her dangerous was the instakill mewmewmew, alongside her other spacts.

Couple threads ago some anon posted a screenshot noa took of a "prince of betrayal", one of the evil gods which noa put out wish bounties for. Apparently that's the top tier endgame he envisions for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44959167
Are the stats of this evil god 2000 across the board, or did the screenshot not show their stats? Also I guess with Elin being made in Unity it should be a lot easier to mod than Elona. So even if the same stat cap is used in the base game a modder might be able to up the ante, and allow further stat progression and such.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44959167
Can someone post that screenshot again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44959577
>>/jp/thread/44236432#p44262029

[Anonymous No.]

>>44959982
that's a big sprite

[Anonymous No.]

>>44959220
Omake already increases the stat cap massively. And yeah, mods are going to be a thing.

I think the thing to remember is that vanilla progression is really, really slow. No baskets, no herbed food, xp is a lot slower to gain, no training days, no broken traveling, etc. In fact, it looks like it might be worse in Elin as there are no herb seeds in the demo, even if the herb effect book is still around.

Even if the cap is unchanged, it will take a lot longer to get there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44960434
Did noa ever said what's his favorite variant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44960496
Rusty has said on the steam forums that none of the dev team have played anything but vanilla.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you select which equipment to pick up?
Currently I just picked stuffs that are great and above but is there any better way to select them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44960496
Well, we know Yacatect isn't showing up...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44960882
>How do you select which equipment to pick up?
Special>Godly>Miracle>Great

[Anonymous No.]

>>44960434
>Omake already increases the stat cap massively
How much is massively? I just looked at the wiki and couldn't find any details about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44963176
So it's okay to just judge item by grade right? I was affair that some Good grade item might worth picking and keep identifying them

[Anonymous No.]

>>44964505
Reaching level 1000 of the void in natsuke custom branch grants you a title that increases your innate stat cap to 99999, and that's tiny compared to stats from gear. You'll need it for the nonsense thrown at you.

>>44963167
We get two fox gods instead, this is fine. I'm okay with events as they are progressing.

>>44964825
The grades are a very rough estimate of the total enchantment value on them, with special items being static artifacts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44960617
> have played anything but vanilla
typical

[Anonymous No.]

>>44965133
But an official onee-chan goddess who just wants you to get rich...

[Anonymous No.]

In custom, is there a way I can get pets to reload their ammo with special ammo or do I have to manually take it off, reload it, and put it back on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44965351
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Pot_for_fusion#Special_ammos_box

[Anonymous No.]

>>44965871
I've seen those before. I try using them on my pets and I get a no ammo message.`

[Anonymous No.]

>>44965139
Given that everyone accuses Tynan of stealing mods every Rimworld DLC and how autistic the Japanese are about IP, I'm not surprised.

Devs who play their own game are rare enough, let alone mods.

Given the state of the demo, people who wade in expecting something like plus or omake are not going to get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44966026
I will wait warmly for Elin Plus Omake.

[Anonymous No.]

I've only seen a BoT once...
One day I'll find another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44966224
It's pretty exciting. The moddability of Unity coupled with the inherent mod support means that a wide variety of mods and mod content will be available. Steam workshop support means acquisition and installation will be easy. The more stuff we get in a more pick and choose fashion, the better.

[Anonymous No.]

Ded gaym

[Anonymous No.]

>>44968109
Can't wait for Noa to have another menhera attack when Elin blows up and he gets a call from Unity about sharing the shekels.

[Anonymous No.]

bumplocked on page 10, new thread when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44925685
It didn't work. Probably doesn't help that the basement level doesn't use stairs but dialogue. Resetting the mansion didn't do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44973569
Well,that sucks..no gokiburi pet on that save i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>44973699
I got a murder roach at least...