/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://nyaa.si/view/1611543
Mahoutsukai no Yoru PC:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177wSYqWfOpH_4AsGzY27sZOs8y84GWa9
PC English Patch (Partial Translation):
https://mega.nz/folder/dBkXjbaa#e3rJvGTb9PT7TFVwjk-2ww
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru complementary short story):
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8887-An-Adventure-of-First-Love-%28Mahoutsukai-no-Yoru-Short-Story%29-Translation

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (Japanese):
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3874450
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch:
https://tsukihimates.com

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
Melty Blood - Type Lumina:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1372280/MELTY_BLOOD_TYPE_LUMINA/
Melty Blood - Type Lumina Community Translation Patch:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9302-Melty-Blood-Type-Lumina-Community-Translation-Patch

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3860991
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9101-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition-2022
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7705-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Patch
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7899136/1/Notes-The-Legend-of-the-Gun-God
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs
Clock Tower 2015:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UnWI7x2XpL8PFE9OuGDjY8qJ0nW7WsVm/view?usp=sharing

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Tsukihime Tokuhon:
https://exhentai.org/g/82076/173f6680ef

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Kohaku did nothing wrong.

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Is really a cancer that should've never been added to gacha
How Takeuchi allowed her instead of another saberface? I thought man had taste.

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>>44083049
I don’t think he cares as long as he gets to draw his waifu

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I hate arcueid so much
Wish she never existed

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Why are there 3 threads?

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>>44083240
retard couldn't put the title in the title so retards made more threads to fix the issue

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>>44083244
oic thank you

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>>44082997
Is there fan art that depicts remake characters in Takeuchi 2000 style?

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>>44081965
>you can start trying to fuck Noel
Ew I don't want that

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>>44083301
There was a guy who posted saying he made an AI model based on Takeuchi's OG style, dunno if he ever released it. This guy is a pretty good approximation of old Takeuchi imo.

https://twitter.com/yuuuuma03

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https://litter.catbox.moe/apd4t8.png

How much longer?

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>>44083733
>Gudao with long hair
I thought you guys hate gacha

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>>44083754
Yeah Hirame drew some funny images, fuck off

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>>44083759
Still has no boobs

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>>44083781
That's a strong point for Akiha

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>>44082997
TsukiRe should’ve been a Lostbelt chapter

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>>44084684
Fate as an IP isn't capable of exploring such themes.

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The contents for TM ACE 15 are out with Tsukihime and Melty Blood being there so hopefully some news.

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>>44084770
>red garden is revealed to be in playtesting

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>>44084770
> Type-Moon Ace volume 15 will include the following series:

Fate/Samurai Remnant, Fate/Grand Order, Mahoutsukai no Yoru, Tsukihime: A Piece of Blue Glass Moon, Melty Blood: Type Lumina, Fate/Prototype: Sougin no Fragments, Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya, Fate/Strange Fake: WoD

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>>44084770
At least Nasu is confirmed alive

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Arcueid is a cute

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>>44084699
which themes

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>>44084894
absolute state of studio BB
can't remake a fucking psp game

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>>44085133
Gacha money really having a positive impact lmao.

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>>44085192
turns out having unlimited money and hiring all your friends doesn't actually result in a good product, who would have known

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>>44085201
They announced the game too early

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So does anyone actually have TM ACE 15?

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>>44084770
But what about mahoyo release date?

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>faggot mods deleted the Rin OP thread
She didn't deserve this

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>>44085270
Did it come out today? Does anyone know the release date?

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>>44085328
26

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>>44085328
Probably not. I think I'm just a dummy and misunderstood what >>44084770 was saying.

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>>44085290
The movie’s coming out next year

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>>44085237
Studio has been around for 4 years. 3 years since announcement. Doubt it will be out before 2026.

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>>44084770
What exactly is MBTL Piece in Paradise?

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How much of this pose have you watched around Takeuchi designs

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>>44084770
>Fragments
Did Sakurai forget that it's already finished and she has a new LN now?
>>44085619
It's a comic, duh.

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>>44085619
Meta manga which supposed to help noobs get into MB

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>>44085653
Getting everyone up to speed for Ordeal Call 2.

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>>44085682
Waiting for payoff and getting it in some half-assed mobile game. Talk about not even mattering.

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>>44085682
Fair enough, but I think Gil and Perseus only had one flashback in Fragments, so it's not like it covered proper Prototype story.

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>>44084770
Not expecting much from Tsukihime but the ORT setting material should be interesting.

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>>44085832
Probably nothing much more than what was shown. Maybe they'll say something interesting of it in timelines where its strong but I doubt.

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Foursome between Shiki, Miyako, Mio and Akiha

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Just a thought based on what I read, it is all speculation in the end
So by the logic of things, Arcueid or Archetype Earth Idea Blood is probably the Will of the Planet, one would inherit the Type title by killing Arcueid.
However, Arcueid can't die, because that requires killing the planet... which is what Aylesbury Valesti was supposed to do I think?
Anyway, Land of Steel of notes is planet death, which means someone got Will of the Planet Idea Blood there.
Altrouge is probably after that Idea Blood.
Maybe the A-rays were caused by Altrouge becoming the Type?

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>>44086110
I don't think AE has an IB.

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>>44086110
I don't think Nasu was thinking about any of that when he wrote Notes...

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>>44086245
Arcueid has a Principle, but yeah it's not the same as IB necessarily.

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When are we getting a Takeuchi character with a wolf cut

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Priorities

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I love her

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>>44086245
>>44086260
Idea Blood in this case would be a weaker or degenerated form of whatever Brunestud had.
Could even be that Idea Blood = a fake Knight Arm.
>>44086260
Of course, but Nasu is using a lot of things from Notes in a adapted or from-the-premise way.

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>>44086296

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>>44086270
Vlov?

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>>44086307
i forgor he had one

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>>44086270
>>44086348
I didn't realize that hair style had a name

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>>44086358
Denpa girls be like

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>>44086365
I first thought of loli singers, but then I remember the other denpa and then I keked

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>>44086357
It's basically a mullet with grown out sides.
Speaking of which, I still don't understand why Takeuchi gave Roa this ugly mullet in the remake. Should've just given him SHIKI's haircut if they had to change it

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>>44086304
>Idea Blood in this case would be a weaker or degenerated form of whatever Brunestud had.
We literally don't know that or basically anything about IB and how they precisely relate to principles. You can make a guess that it's actually CM's physical blood maybe.
>IB= a fake Knight Arm
How do you get that.

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>>44086437
He looks great. They're going to have 3 designs SHIKI-Hybrid-Roa.

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>>44086437
It's not supposed to be a mullet (even though some of his bangs are short), it's supposed to be the normal nuSHIKI haircut, but swept back to show Roa's more faux-distinguished demeanor. In the shot where Shiki stabs him you see that his hair is still really long.

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>>44086304
Yeah, Arc's Principle is not derived from CM either, it's linked to the Celestial Egg.

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>>44086500
and this

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>>44084770
4 pages for Mahoyo, 4 for TsukiRe, 8 pages for MBTL?

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>>44086481
>We literally don't know
>How do you get that.
Like I said on the first post, all speculation, it just makes sense after putting things together from what nasu wrote in other works and what is said in TsukiR
>>44086502
So, it is kind of both in my hypothesis
Brunestud mixed his knowledge of being a Type with Earth source and then made the project of Archetype Earth
Idea Blood would be imperfect reproductions of it or are just what Brunestud did but using a weaker source than the planet

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>>44086503
Although that's SHIKI hair, which should be something like Akiha.

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>>44084770
Tsukihime English TL
Melty just shit interview

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>>44086515
Melty sold over 500,000 copies >>>>>>>>> Tsukihime and Mahoyo

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>>44086603
niggers can't read, but they sure love smashing buttons while watching shiny explosions

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>>44086620
I want a gf that loves me way more than I love her.

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Kek Shiki went all in

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>>44086515
2 pages for MBTL, F/SF article starts at page 90.

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>>44086647
imagine how she would look if Roa hadn't halted her aging

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>>44086110
You don't become a Type just because you kill it. Death of the planet and Death of AE as an individual are also not 100% linked in all cases. I don't think you can become the will of the planet just by killing her and consuming her principle(Not the same as IB). Seems more stringent requirements such as being an elemental from the inner sea. Roa's ritual isn't necessarily the same as Aylesbury though I think there are some connections. Roa's does mention it would have killed the world. A-rays in notes were made by humanity.

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>>44086694
She would have very nice "croissants" if you ask me

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>>44086694
Ciel-Sensei

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>>44086716
Bigger than Passionlip

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>>44086683
Why curry?

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I still maintain that Akiha's titties are inside Shiki's heart. If she hadn't given up her energy to him she'd have badonkadonks.

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>>44086778
Japanese girls are small, so it checks out.

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>>44086778
akiha is perfect the way she is

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i barely started type moon and tsukihime but i just want to say. god i want to have the wildest sex with arcueid. i want her to suck out all my blood until im on the brink of death and then violate me the entire night. i want her to make me her thrall. i want to start a family with her and serve her my entire life. i live and i will die for cripplingly retarded vampire gf.

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>>44086829
This is out of character.

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I just read the Tunguska chapter and it was mentioned Koyan had a SG weighing hundreds of thousands of tons, and she was still 200k after being weakened fighting multiple Servants.
This concept seems awfully similar to the concept of Lifescale in TsukiR and it tells me Koyan at full power is around as strong as Vlov.

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>>44086917
Source: My ass.

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>>44087043
>and it tells me
I said in my post it's speculation anon.
There are reasons to believe that's the case, but obviously not direct statements.

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>>44087073
You know what weighed 100k tons? The Tunguska Meteor. It's foreshadowing of her identity.

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>>44086857
How do you know anon's character?
And likely in character for Shiki as he was shown serving her as DEATH in that manga until he dies in 20s. Akiha mentioned that he looked scary and corrupted.

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>>44087119
Yeah, but this is stated after her identity was already revealed. And she wasn't limited to 100k tons, she was several hundreds of thousand (above 200k). That was strictly the weight of her Saint Graph as a measure of Lifescale.

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In the end Gaia is just another women. She will get wet when in presence of sexy and dangerous guy. Last line is funny because it sounds like something other planets would say.
>look at Earth-chan getting horny over a human, so shameless.

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Wait when did Ciel and Shiki kiss for the first time?

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>>44087233
after their confrontation, and before noel just come in and destroy the moment

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when did /tmg/ start placating gachatards? the thread quality has dropped substantially ever since the Ciel route got translated

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>>44087341
I don't see the correlation.

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>>44087341
eop just tend to ruin everything great unfortunately. red garden should filter them since i don't expect the thing to be translated as quickly as the first part, nor do i expect a simultaneous release like some of them are expecting.

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>>44087584
I don't think anyone expects that, if the gacha being literally 2 years behind is any indication. I thought someone mentioned on /v/ that it was catching up but to me that sounds like cope.

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>>44087603
It's not catching up. That said, for some reason they're advertising the stream on the 29th for both JP and NA, so it's likely they'll announce something relevant for NA in it. Could just be something FGO or could be something TM, no idea until it happens

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>watching anime
>get to ED
>see this
>realize it's Takeuchi's art
How many artist cameos has Takeuchi done for shows like this? Is there a wiki that keeps track of it?

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>>44087638
Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is Takeuchi as well. (from the manga)

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>>44087638
Takenashi Eri is a friend.

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>Finally finished Ciel's route, thoughts on the last day
TO
FUCKING
LONG
I hated how long and over the top it was. I was costantly checking the clock due to how long it was taking.
Ok, let's calm down a bit. I get that Nasu wanted to show how fucking over the top Arcueid is.
I get that this is her last appearance in the main story so he wanted to go all out, but I just extremely disliked how he did it.
By the time the roots appeared I was already tired, it didn't felt at all like I was reading Tsukihime.

Last bit of the route, once again there is a tease on Red Garden with the other 3 heroines telling Shiki to stay more with them.
The tease was already in the original VN, but here it's even bigger: "you should come back for Red Garden since you are missing A LOT!"
The tease of Akiha's and Sacchin's interaction was cute. No fuck it, all the interactions were cute, as if I didn't wish to read Red Garden already.

>Overall thoughts
This route is 95% better than the original one without doubts.
I actually care for Ciel and she costantly doing her best to help Shiki and the city. The interactions between her and Shiki were cute and I wanted more of them!
Noel while a bitch is a good addition, especially for Ciel. I'm not a fan of her DAA's design but I actually liked her final stand down more than I expected.
I honestly liked the Church people, it made no sense how only Ciel was present in the original despite dealing with Roa, a notable parasyte.
Mario as well seemed over the top but after a while it was a treat hearing him shitting on everyone. And if he is really Laurentis getting younger than I get why he is costantly pissed off.
Inui is more present and you perceive him more as a friend, something I felt extremely lacking in the original.
Arach as well is a bit over the top, despite how out of place she feels I liked her more than expected. But that could change in the Red Garden, I fear she might steal a lot of stuff from Kohaku.
Despite being sad I actually liked more how the neutral ending was achieved.

>Random thoughts that I have right now on my head
So, now I ask for those who have been theorizing longer than me what theories were created in the last 2 years. What I can come up with is:
>Satsuki has been turned in the Ciel's route but managed to avoid both Ciel and Arc and is hiding better her dead apostle status
>Arach with the help of Makihisa was planning to recreate the same ritual of French, she is an architech and the underground belongs to the Tohno
The main reason why she did not act too much during Near side is because the underground was partially destroyed due to Vlov making it useless for now.
The question is: did she ipnotize Makihisa or did she promise to find a way to stop SHIKI's turning so he helped her willingly?
>I can see Gotou being a midboss in one of the next routes... maybe in Hisui's? Or maybe in Akiha's? I can see Kouma coming down during Akiha's route because Goto called him since Akiha loses control.
Satsuki it's a big question, maybe in her route Nero comes back like many theorized.
I have no idea where Arach could be the main antagonist though, either in Hisui's route or Satsuki's?
If there is some file on the internet that has them all I'll be glad to read it.
I also read that there are some theories based on the new Melty Blood, but that it's translation is shit, anywhere I might find the proper one?

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>>44087740
>Shiki vs Kouma or Goutou where Shiki is trying to protect Red Akiha from the rest of the family trying to use the opportunity to seize power
could be cool

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>>44086829
>god i want to have the wildest sex with arcueid
Why Arcueid and not someone like Ciel?
She is vampire. It means she's literally undead, so corpse. Why do you want to fuck cold corpse?

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>>44087862
This shitposting got old really fast.

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>>44087921
And why did you post it at all? It even confirms most humans see TA as evil.

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>>44087972
Humans consider someone who steal from them (blood) evil but humans steal from the planet which is why TA consider them evil

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>Since I'm finally done with Tsukihime remake than I might read for the first time Mahoyo before I lose my motivation to read
>Novel starts with 2 kittens and their mother brutally killed by a car
...well, here we are for a trip I guess

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>>44088003
Sure, and what does it have with >>44087862 ?

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Can Kirei Kotomine prime can handle someone like lancer in fate stay night?

27daa, Aoko and Kouma are one of the few characters Nasu considers equal to a servant.

Ciel defeated 3 vampires from 27daa(Be'ze, Einnashe and Chromeclay).

According to Nasu and Fate/complete material II, Zero Kirei with Command Spells is overall superior to Ciel and would defeat her.

In summary, Kirei can easily beat regular servant in a battle...?

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>>44088055
You tell me. >>44087921 clearly says that she's a nature spirit/fairie and completely different species from Dead Apostles so why are you still posting retarded shit?

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>>44088079
Prime Kirei would get destroyed by a fledgling rank VI DA like Noel. In fact he'd probably lose or struggle against a rank V.
That statement from Nasu only applies to the old continuity.

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>>44088079
>Zero Kirei with Command Spells is overall superior to Ciel and would defeat her.
As in Kirei with a servant? Duh?

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>>44088093
I never said she is DA? She is still vampire, your screenshot says she's original bloodsucker (TA).
And bloodsucker means she's undead, so yeah physically cold corpse.

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I know Altrouge go around looking like a 14 years old girl but I don't know if she is older or younger than Arcueid

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>>44088102
Given him a Servant and TsukiR Ciel would still beat him lol.

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>>44088133
Probably true kek

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>>44088100
DA Noel is too underrated

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how powerful would Kerry be if he was
>written by Nasu
>in 2023

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>>44088107
First I wanted to call you a retard because you apparently think that vampire bat or mosquito is an undead but it's pointless to the whole topic so it's better to just tell you to read VN. There's whole section about how warm Arc body feels

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>>44087740
Guys at beast lair are doing MB fantranslation, you should check there

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>>44088120
She is described as being Arc's older sister.

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>finally finished LB6
Damn it was long but so good. Even Guda felt like a real character.

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>>44087740
I love the over the top nature of Ciel True. You can tell this is Nasu's way of relaying the scale of New TM and how this shit can happen in the modern era. The hopelessness of man vs nature and yet the slow and deliberate bending of it.

You seem to have enjoyed it a lot overall though so glad for you. Peak?
>Satsuki has been turned in the Ciel's route but managed to avoid both Ciel and Arc and is hiding better her dead apostle status
Maybe. Something happened. Note the destruction of the hospital varies between both routes. May be related to this.
>Arach with the help of Makihisa was planning to recreate the same ritual of French, she is an architech and the underground belongs to the Tohno
The main reason why she did not act too much during Near side is because the underground was partially destroyed due to Vlov making it useless for now.
The question is: did she ipnotize Makihisa or did she promise to find a way to stop SHIKI's turning so he helped her willingly?
Hard to say. Does seem likely she was brought in to help with the inversion. They mention Akiha undergoing surgery and she is fixated on her. Details between her relationship with Roa/Makihisa is vague but assuming she's was in France seem safe. She may have also let Roa in on the family as potential next hosts, worked together in researching IB inheritance too.
>I can see Gotou being a midboss in one of the next routes... maybe in Hisui's? Or maybe in Akiha's? I can see Kouma coming down during Akiha's route because Goto called him since Akiha loses control.
Seems like a good storyline people have suggested.

Other theories but not limited to since I don't want to type for hours(There is tons of new content to ruminate on)
Shiki being connected to Arcueid out of time. In the prologue and Day 2 it says that Shiki doesn't dream and that what he sees is that which has already occurred. This is the most mysterious thing in the novel and could imply tons of things about the nature of parallel worlds, possibilities, dreams etc. Seems like Arc from the Future and Shiki of the past/present are linked in the dream. Though the Arc in the prologue sounds a lot like eco-arc too in her tone of voice.
Shiki may be a Roa reincarnation. Their is some weird stuff going on with the timeline.Ciel seems to be #15 and there is a coffin for 16 and 17 so everything may be different.
Shiki has a past connection with vampires. You can see this in the flashbacks and the bad end with Noel. He survived some incident as a kid.Their seems to be a missing year or time skip between the first time he wakes up in the hospital and the second time when he starts seeing lines so his power may have awakened differently this time.

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>>44088511
Also, is it me but the outline is basically Notes but a lot more developed and fleshed out (just the outline, Notes is very short and everyone's underdeveloped). Without counting Chaldea inserted there.

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>>44088511
>but so good
>Even Guda felt like a real character

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How strong are powerful DA if their supernatural vessel is collapsing under their own existence.

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>>44088529
That's precisely why they drink blood.

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How does Remake Nero work with Idea Blood since he is a regular human who became a DA thanks to his own experiments?

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>>44088511
neck yourself faggot

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>>44088511
A true slog of mid. And lol.
>>44088523
Not at all.

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>>44088527
Rance poster is my favorite TM poster and I fucking hate Rance.

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>>44088538
I know, it's just crazy to think about how much power they're sporting to constantly need to replenish their reserves and it just gets more the stronger they become. High tier vamps are like thematically some kind of primordial nightmarish blood gods. Just think about what they did to France. Classic horror.

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>>44088554
>Not at all.
It is the prophecy once the calamities are dealt with is literally Notes:
A-Rays (now reshuffled as faeries).
The world is already dead, in fact, the world is just a corpse (Britain is the world here).
The world itself wants to rest in peace since its dead and summons eldritch being to finish them off and everyone atop it.
That creature gains a human ego/alter ego.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088511
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088259
thanks

>>44088517
>You seem to have enjoyed it a lot overall though so glad for you
oh yeah definitely, I enjoyed it way more than the original.
Shiki may be a Roa reincarnation. There is some weird stuff going on with the timeline.Ciel seems to be 15th and there is a coffin for 16 and 17 so everything may be different.
Oh yeah, that kept confusing since I was like: Isn't Ciel 15th? Why are they saying there are 17? Shouldn't it be 16? They have no idea that Shiki is the new 17
Shiki has a past connection with vampires
yeah yeah, there is also that weird thing of Roa saying that he hasn't been at the mansion for 8 years, but SHIKI's murder happened 7 years prior

>>44087740
>>44088517
I REALIZED I'M A FUCKING IDIOT!
>I can see Gotou being a midboss in one of the next routes... maybe in Hisui's? Or maybe in Akiha's? I can see Kouma coming down during Akiha's route because Goto called him since Akiha loses control.
I MEANT KOHAKU'S ROUTE! NOT AKIHA'S!
I feel like Akiha's route will keep SHIKI as the main antagonist, in the others things will change a lot more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086917
>tells me Koyan at full power is around as strong as Vlov.
Provide the math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088593
Repurposing a term in a different way and making loose thematic connections does not make it the same. People have been seeing Notes in everything for years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088715
You'd have to be blind not to see Notes. in LB6.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44087341
There's really nothing you can do to stop them endlessly powerlevel fagging over TM "world building". They'll fuck off after the next gachashit story comes out.

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>>44088687
It's based on Vlov's feats and statements. Arc stated Vlov would reduce the city to ashes before he is weak enough for Arc to defeat him in her weakened state. And Vlov's IB instantly freezing the whole city is something he is shown to be capable of doing, way before he can even run out of blood/mana reserves.
There is also the fact Vlov's passive IB was able to shatter Ciel's Gothic Fort (30km diameter wall) in only one hour.

So a rank VI DA like Vlov should have a 300k~ tons Lifescale on account of their existence being on the scale of a city.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44087862
i dont want to fuck the cold corpse i want to get fucked by the cold corpse its different

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088724
You can see notes references in basically any story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088647
Ciel is 15, SHIKI is 16, Shiki is 17

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>>44088741
It should also be noted that Vlov isn't just "a rank 6 DA", he's an ancestor, and has most of the perks of being an ancestor. He's probably on the weaker end of the ancestors, but he'd probably btfo anyone under rank 8 and even several rank 8s.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is the spider thing Ciel fights at the end of both routes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088944
Muh dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088741
That sounds like headcanon to me. All I'm seeing out of that is that he's strong but nothing to pinpoint any comparison relative to anyone let alone some number as precise as 300k tons or any general statement of specific ranks of DA. Do you have a power scouter? Him destroying a city before she can confidently defeat him(She doesn't even really know the scale or details of his curse at this point) doesn't really say anything because battles are not just slamming numbers at each other. How much is that even going to deplete his reserves? 1%? 2%? 95%? Should we take it as a measurement in the first place instead of the obvious context of the scene being "We can't guarantee a win but if we don't act now your city is history".

[Anonymous No.]

Also Arc isn't the best source of gauging how powerful Vlov is since she got her shit kicked in by him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088944
Arach's ghouls probably.

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>>44088511
Lol, lmao even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088975
She immediately says it seems even a third rate vampires principle can overthrow the planet after seeing his actual power too. So...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088944
Ciel assumes it's Roa's work but it's clearly Arach's thing.
Why did Nasu think naming a suspicious spider girl "arach" was interesting? It's like making a Russian character named "Slav Archangel".

[Anonymous No.]

Spoilers for Ciel route https://litter.catbox.moe/es2o3r.png

Where did I fuck up that I missed this scene?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44082997
Did they really introduce Arc to FGO?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089004
The same reason he thought the name Mario-nette rooster bestino was a good name, and giving him puppeteer gloves that allowed even Noel to not get her shit kicked in by Arc was a subtle hint as to who he is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089010
https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Archetype:_Earth

[Anonymous No.]

Roa mentions in DA Noel's story in Melty a personal connection between him and Arach, and since there was a spider girl in the french incident, who knows. Maybe Arach broke SHIKI out in Remake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089005
maybe... did you not max out Arcueid's affection?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089005
Didn't pick Arc at every instance. What a fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089027
there is nothing more heartwarming than fellows DAA joining a cup of blood together and planning the end of the world despite liking humans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089031
>>44089036
Look I thought I was in the bluepai route ok?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089043
Roa is disappointed in humans for not being like him, which is why he preys on them and talks down to them like in the Edmond CD. And yet he still refers to himself as human when fighting Arc because he believes himself to be the most human human around.
It's a cool way to characterize an egomaniac.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089045
In Ciel's dreams

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089045
It's not your story bro. It's Shiki's. Get into the mind of a manslut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089065
Wait, I'm not Shiki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089070
Potential Shiki here. Same himbo energy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089043
Something about they can be as cruel and twisted as they are because they're ascended from humanity. Their games and 'entertainment' provide them with a way to reaffirm their life or something if I am remembering correctly.

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>>44088931
>and has most of the perks of being an ancestor
Not really. He definitely doesn't have an Ancestor's blood reserves, and IB explicitly needs blood reserves in order to operate. Arc also states Apostles of Rank VIII are leagues above Vlov and this is despite Vlov being an Ancestor with IB, since the depiction of Vlov in this exact scene is Vlov with his IB activated.

>>44088966
>All I'm seeing out of that is that he's strong but nothing to pinpoint any comparison
Arc explicitly has a very precise power scouter since she can measure someone's Lifescale. This is demonstrated multiple times and outright stated in Ciel's True route.
Arc knew full well she couldn't defeat Vlov at her current level so Vlov defeating her at that point doeesn't prove anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089005
Don't feel bad, I was missing this scene for literally months until somebody in the thread pointed out it was a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089065
>Get into the mind of a manslut.
kek
but honestly it's why I like to read his POVs more than Shirou.
He isn't embarassed by females and is not afraid to make compliments to the girl he likes. Shiro turns around as soon as he sees the shadow of a boob.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089097
again, Arc says that, but then she gets completely blindsided by him in their fight. She's clearly wrong about him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089070
I saw this girl on the train the other night. 9/10 cutie, blonde, short hair, white as snow. I felt my blood flowing, heat rising, before I knew it I reached into my picket looking for my everyday carry and audibly said "White woman spotted" That's when I realized people were looking at me and I hurriedly moved away. I need to apply more points into to stealth before I'm like Shiki bros.

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>>44089118
That's entirely a non sequitur. Vlov manifesting a different power to the one she thought Vlov had is not proof of her being wrong about his Lifescale, since his Lifescale remains the same as it's merely how much blood/mana he has inside him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089140
>Nanayanon

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>>44089158
And I think that's Arc being hung up on "lifescale" as the only driving force in someone's power

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088511
all the seething replies from normal people

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>>44089097
The problem is your headcanon about measurements is from your ass. You can't accurately gauge Vlov to Koyan unless they fought the same person or they used the same measurement system and were both given a value or something. Vlov slowly burning a city until some undetermined level of weakening for an Arc to maybe defeat(What is her power level in metric tons lol???) or Instantly iceing it after being drastically weakened doesn't really equate to something you can easily gauge or factor in the peculiarities of their abilities imo. I mean Arc looks like she only blasts an isolated portion of the city but I don't think we're saying that's very indicative of her overall abilities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089158
Your scale of existence doesn't necessarily reflect what your powers are capable of doing or their strength of concept and such. TM is about hax first and foremost. This is why Shiki is so strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089227
If you can destroy a wall of 30km diameter in one hour with your presence alone using your blood/mana reserves, then doesn't that mean your own existence weighs more than 300k tons? This seems pretty basic stuff.

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>>44089027

[Anonymous No.]

lifescale was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089285
Sorry I'm an eop.
Anything lost in translation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089285
the absolute state of this translation lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089288
The translation's all fanfic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089288
>Allow me to correct my evaluation, newbie.
>I thought you were rank 4, but I recognize that you are rank 7.
More like that

[Anonymous No.]

I personally think Vlov is at least the weight of the entire city since he coulda beat it. How much mass is a city.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088944
FGO coomer "fixed" by Dr Boobs's love

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089329
Sacchin...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089324
Really.
The english line implies he knows Noel is "the Doctor"'s work. That's a fucked translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089282
Which in itself is some conceptual super power curse so I don't know how you gauge it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089349
yeah no that's completely made up lol. I mean Roa probably knows Arach anyway given the whole french incident but that's not evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089349
>>44089398
I mean, isn't she based off of TA or something anyways?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089327
In the millions for sure

[Anonymous No.]

To clarify, this line seems to pretty clearly refer to Arach, just not the line where the subject is randomly changed to doctor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089454
It's like the translator randomly mixed the lines from this scene and the other scene together and then came up with his own translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089507
He localized it for you bro :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089507
In fairness that's not entirely out of the realm of what a Localizer is supposed to do. The optimal thing to do is to "translate the meaning" rather than "translate the words". The problem is that if you're a dipshit who can't deduce the meaning then you're better off just translating the words.

[Anonymous No.]

>30km diameter
That's a thick fucking wall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089419
What

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089438
Maybe even over 9 million tons you could say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089533
It's supposed to seal off a kingdom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085515
proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089010
Yes and no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089608
Arc is right there in the 2nd ascension if you want to be pedantic about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089549
Yeah, but a diameter of 30km is thick as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

The Earth's texture is a Universe of Records, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088715
Bro, I literally said the outline of Notes. It's about a corpse wanting to rest in peace and something external doing the job of eliminating things in it. Nasu always recycles his shit and repurposes it. For all intents and purpose the beneath story of the fairytale followed that outline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089614
I mean he probably means the fact that she's just a guest for tsuki2/TA/dinohime hints.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089623
Indeed, it is an Idea Blood after all.
Chromclay's original was even more impressive, being pretty much Avalon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089638
Aight I'll accept that

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089614
I mean Archetype Earth appears in form of Dinohime.
Also hmm, technically every A-ray/Subell is a different organ of the planet?
If anything he explored a lot of lore, including the real appearance of the planet's pure soul: that is the Site of Selection actually where Excalibur was forged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089627
LB6 and LB7 unironically loredump this with the cavern leading to Avalon. And what TRULY is Avalon and the inner seat/Site of Selection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089669
>site of selection
Where was that stated to be the planet's pure soul ? It was just a location.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089641
Avalon is more than that now. Read LB6. Avalon is literally the Planet's true soul.

[Anonymous No.]

No LB6 screenshots for such important information?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089686
I didn't see any allusions to it. This one is stated to be a conceptual universe covering the cosmos/outer space. LB6/7 doesn't really mention anything about that as far as I'm aware.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089689
Merlin explains what it is. It looks like the universe/cosmos. It's the planet's soul. The inner sea - Avalon is the planet's soul in general but that one in particular. The memories of all records are projected no the cavern around it to protect it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089705
Does Merlin ever actually show up in LB6? I thought it was just Oberon bullshitting everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089701
Read the scene where they reach the Site of Selection. And before they get into Avalon and the meaning of the "inner sea" = the planet's soul.
It makes sense when faeries are basically bunrei from the soul and come from here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089709
Define actually showing up. But yes he shows up when taking the gang through albion's cave into the inner sea of the planet and then guiding the group so that seiba can kill herself to create excalibur.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089705
The inner sea is a dream the planet is having. The soul would probably be the celestial egg is anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089709
Oberon was the one who was Merlin to Castoria. But the real Merlin sent one of his illusions/spiritual bodies and was hijacked by was locked up by Morgan in the "Garden" mirror before breaking free after her death and rewinding time around the Pit so Cernnunos doesn't wreck everyone's shit (he was doing that), and he was the guide to take them to the Site of Selection. This site is the purest form of the spirit of the planet and it literally looks like a cosmos in appearance when they get in. Muramasa also says something like Roa about the records and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Might sound like a retarded question but does Melty Blood Type: Lumina contain spoilers outside of the Tsukihime Remake? Like is it made on the assumption that the player read the original Tsukihime and not just the remake?

[Anonymous No.]

/tmg/ stop disappointing me again by knowing gacha garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089744
I stopped actively posting on this general because of this. I now just check in occasionally to download art and reaction images. It's truly a sad state.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089738
>The inner sea is a dream the planet is having.
It's literally specifically the soul according to Merlin. Where is this 'dream' stuff coming from?
I'm telling you the place Excalibur was forged was described as looking like the universe. Excalibur was born inside of this. It is the ultimate weapon made after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089743
A few specific characters existence in melty are spoilers/
I'd consider DA Noel a spoiler, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089743
No Nasu has autism and made sure to not spoil the far side in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089758
No, DA Noel is in the tsukihime remake in Ciel's route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089743
Depends on how much you know about Akiha

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089758
He's asking if it has spoilers for Tsukihime since he's too much of a secondary to actually play the main work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089764
>>44089774
Oh I got it backwards. I thought you were asking if you could play it without spoiling remake for yourself, not spoiling non-remake lmao
The spoilers for stuff out of Tsukire are
>Akiha turns red sometimes
>Mashu is Galahad, if you even care about Gacha
>Kouma at all

>Len showing up once IIRC
>Master Panda
I think that's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089705
>>44089710
Oh yeah, there was something like that. The NA translated it as the center of the universe. The kanji is kind if interesting.
ソラのなか? So the inside of the cosmos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089805
Are you telling me they translated 宙の炉 as "center of the universe'? my fucking sides

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089756
An interview from Nasu about LB6. I forget if it was TMAce14 or not. The inner sea is not the soul itself.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm pretty sure the Site of Selection Excalibur was forged is called the "center of the Universe" and the "Universe's furnace." I have no fucking clue what it means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089859
It means Nasu either likes sounding cool or likes giggling to himself as to how he's conning people into liking his faux-cool sounding shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089805
>>44089817
It can mean that though. It's not incorrect. It definitely shows Excalibur is super special. How many planets fell to Sefar while Grug-Seiba just one shot her?

[Anonymous No.]

STOP discussing gachashit

[Anonymous No.]

He's right, anons. Gacha is degenerate.
Now has Samurai Remnant killed Extella Link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089884
Let me rephrase.
Has Samurai Remnant told us that there will never be another Extella?*

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089869
The Celestial Egg is also called the source of everything and the cemetery of stars where all will in the end return.
That probably means Earth's texture covers outer space including other planets and stars, to a point those celestial bodies are also under it's purview.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089900
We know this because of how the Prunning system needs to exist and Morgan mentions the "God" (not Olga surely) will claim the whole universe. She at least wanted to keep her garden.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, it's pretty interesting. Usually 宇宙 just refers to the human universe of awareness but here it was 宙 with ソラ on top for clarification and whenever ソラ is used it refers to outer space/the cosmos outside the human universe of awareness.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't wait for Nasu to never bring up the Crimson Moon and Arc's family while infodumping the Celestial Egg for hours.

[Anonymous No.]

Tsukihime is a story about a dutch priest dabbing on a russian knight and a german princess and fucking over a japanese family

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089941
And then in his next work he'll infodump about some new chuuni word salad and completely forget about the egg. I honestly don't know why people give a shit about TM "lore".

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089957
Because outdated retards who unironically read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089937
Translate this for me bro. How wanked is Excalibur now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089957
For me, it's because Urban Fantasy is a great genre and Pre-FGO TM did it pretty well imo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089957
Live in the moment bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089967
I mean, Forged in the inner sea of the planet, a defense system capable to exterminating interplanetary threats

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089947
That's reductive, but essentially yes.

[Anonymous No.]

youtube.com/watch?v=5Kf3RgabbSg
youtube.com/watch?v=GSyXJsB3izE
youtube.com/watch?v=9WDirRbUIFM
youtube.com/watch?v=XXlbnQNqnZA

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089976
Which makes me wonder the fuck the worm is: the pit itself WAS the abyss insect, which was dormant as long Totoro was sitting his ass on top. Is it of Earth or outside Earth? Nasu's vague description literally doesn't fucking help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089999

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089999
honestly, nasu should have made a rpg game with this setting. it feels so wasted. I would have loved to explore each city.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090014
>nasu should have made a rpg
What is wrong with you people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090002
Wasn't it just the land itself trying to kill itself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089966
Him splitting the Tsuki/FSN world and doubling down on the celestial autism was really the end of my interest in any TM "lore". The fact that he adopted the capeshit "muh alternate dimensions" faggotry because his lore became too contradictory and retarded just reinforced my decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090036
See that anon compare it with Notes? The land wanted to die (or rather, it was dead already but was forced to be in a state of cursed existence - everything died and Morgan forced it back) and the Abyss came to swallow it in a sense. The Abyss Insect was given the name of the Will of the Land Vortigern, but that was a Gifted Name, then was given Oberon name by the wishes of the Wales Fae (who weren't from the sinful clans obviously that's why Morgan wanted them gone - they were insect fae who manifested because she was governing a dead world).

The Insect Abyss was described as something like a complete different world in itself. And Nasu said it is the "embodiment of holes/abyss everywhere."

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090037
>Him splitting the Tsuki/FSN world and doubling down on the celestial autism was really the end of my interest in any TM "lore"
Why? Are you a fanfic writer, perhaps?

[Anonymous No.]

In as concrete terms as possible, how are the worlds of Tsukihime and Fate differing?

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that FGO is not canon

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090054
>>44090036
I've seen the the abyss worm is called the ultimate end - stars/celestial body doomsday device. Until Nasu clarifies it, it sounds like its a neutral phenomena that appears to swallow what already run its course but lingers past their expiration date. Since it has no real limits, it adjusts their external shell to their intended target. In my opinion, it's similar to ORT (which is a portable sun in shape of a meteor that goes around snacking planets) but as more a to-go janny for any planet who dies or any planet that finds part of itself inconvenient, something like a hardworking grand wormhole/blackhole. It didn't have an ego (like ORT) until Lostbelt shit forced that onto it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090115
entirely depends on how Nasu is feeling during each interview

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090037
Based and correct. Honestly being invested into someone else's imagination instead of using your own is prime pathetic. You got your own brain and you pretend that someone else's is better basically.

Why would I read tsukihime when Roa dies in every route because Nasu is complete retard and I wish he will get cancer IRL and die? I'm not going to suck his dick like many doing, if anyone in TM is good that's Takeuchi who draw many great characters.

I'd rather write my own story or use AI chatbot to use Roa in a decent way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090115
It's whatever Nasu is feeling at the time. But currently
Brunestud is very, VERY dead in Fate worlds, and Kaleidoman is a human. CM So absurdly, extremely dead that humanity has an active advantage as a whole against vampirism (not individually, but in Fate Worlds Gaia is Alaya's bitch)
Brunestud is capable of reincarnating in Tsuki worlds and Vampires have an overall advantage against humans. Alaya is Gaia's bitch, so agents of Alaya (IE, servants) can't manifest in the same complete capacity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090123
>I've seen the the abyss worm is called the ultimate end - stars/celestial body doomsday device
Where was this stated? Can you provide source?

[Anonymous No.]

do the nanayas exist in fate timelines?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090115
Tsukihimei has Gaia as the strong side. As such TA's have an overwhelming advantage in terms of power over humanity and are the stronger side. Furthermore someone like Arcuied is what the planet calls to deal with problems and grants them enough power to deal with them.
On the other side of the coin, Alaya is the strong side, as such Humans have an overwhelming advantage in terms of power over bloodsuckers, etc and are the stronger side. Furthermore the Counter Force is what Alaya calls to deal with problems and grants them enough power to deal with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089701
Ya me either, I wouldn't trust the interpretations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090115
What WE know:
Fate: CM is gone, no idea blood (so no DAA), no Arc (Archetype Earth can exist but is different and described as just the planet's record/voice that can't move according to Da Vinci BEFORE meeting Dinohime so it applies in general), HS can manifest. Mage Association is the protagonist.
Tsukihime: CM is defeated but survives and will return, idea blood so DAA are a thing, Arc exists as CM heir. HS don't manifest unless Neo Arc wants a crossover. Church are the protagonists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090107
It's a sign that he can't keep his world building consistent. If he starts out by saying that they share the same worlds, and even tease that Archer got his shroud from fucking Ciel, only for him to retroactively split them apart because he wanted to write celestial retardation into Fate, it shows that he doesn't care about what he's written before and will write whatever the fuck he wants.

Plus his celestial autism is badly written. I've felt more tension from Shiki and Arc fighting a shirtless vampire in a school than some Saberfaced faggot in a retarded outfit threatening to end reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090134
I think reading this post killed some of my brain cells

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090155
Let me search for it. I read it in those tm lore dumps when the lB6 book was out. You know that nip twitter that autistically pieces shit. Don't know if he read it from the book or he was speculating. I do remember a manga calling him "the doomsday device" and his song is called "the end."

[Anonymous No.]

Is that right? Does Roa not survive (IE can't reincarnate) after any Tsuki route?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090158
I don't see why not other than maybe Shiki being declared some additional mutation on top of the Nanaya being mutants implying something special happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090173
Roa doesn't exist in any route other than Arc and Ciel (and maybe Sacchin).

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090178
Well if he or SHIKI is killed by anyone other than Shiki, he should still be able to reincarnate, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090168
Well that's just the fact that Tsukihime has better/more real stakes and gravity. The writing is magnitudes better so of course you'll feel it more than, say, some fairy tale shounen shit in newer fate stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090158
why not? they have no reason to be wiped in the fate worlds unlike tsuki. nasu is a hack so who knows though. he will probably find a reason to get them wiped while managing to get someone like ciel being involved in the fate worlds in order to milk the gacha fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090123
reminder that it while it can exist anywhere the concept of holes does, it will never be an issue basically anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090178
that's wrong bro...

>>44090181
Correct. He probably (?) survives Kohaku's route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44090209
>Ciel is most realistic Baker
>Shiki and Akiha and SHIKI growing up without so much bullshit. Nanaya could theoretically still be killed though they could easily have a different destiny if they simply stayed as DH I guess.

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>>44090232
Totori Nanaya can kill Totori Kouma.
real Kouma is as strong as "the average servant"
where does this put a fully trained, non-adopted real Shiki Nanaya?

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>>44090216
>>44090123
Yeah, I do remember it being stated it will never manifest in PHH. I dunno what's the deal with it.

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>>44090158
Here's the real kicker.
The Old Man is technically alive in Tsukihime unless someone has killed him in the Temple of Azrael. He's only a servant in FGO because he's killed by the incineration of man.

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>>44090169
Witnessing future of humanity could be strange, but that's it. AI will kill writers for good. It's matter of next 10 years.

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>>44090247
>totori
Just say you're a secondary.
Average servant is bullshit.

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>>44090277
What's wrong with saying Totori? What's the proper notation? Wallachia?

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>>44090184
Him being incapable of writing something with equivalent stakes and gravity nearly 20 years after writing an anemic coomer and a blonde retard fighting a shirtless vampire in a school just proves my point.

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>>44090272
King Hassan will appear before Shiki to test his mettle. Upon being killed spine dangling from a skulled mask, he will bless Nanaya as the true incarnation of DEATH that will carry out the lords will and slay the heresy that are the dead apostles. Then they drink beer and talk about mountains and killing.

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>>44090283
Remake was good. Shiki vs Roa for example was great. Of course it's a remake so maybe it's cheating a little... but even the quick little fights with spider ghouls or the dead feel properly old urban fantasy.

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>>44090283
>>44090326
It's genuinely the best remake ever (so far). Literally everything went right, I don't know how they did it. The only thing you can complain about I would consider nitpicks.

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>>44090232
it would be rather an ironic twist of fate if the nanaya still hold to demon hunting in the fate worlds. i guess you can imagine a scenario where kiri doesn't develop paternal love thus continue the business? dunno, i feel like you can make them survive without ruining the narrative that much, unlike say ciel.

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>you can't talk about the lore if it came from the gacha

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>>44090332
How about the fact that it took 15 years to come out and only has half the fucking story? Or the fact that he only released it to the Switch and PS4? Or the fact that Ciel's route was retarded?

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>>44090336
Yeah, it's really just Kiri's choice that lead to it. Or maybe Saiki being crazy. You can easily change how things play out compared to say the impact of Roa influenced things like SHIKI or Ciel. On the other hand, the Nanaya incident is unrelated to Roa and shit so could just as easily occur.

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>>44090359
you can when nasu rewrites it as a proper hard book, smelling paper and clear novel format.

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>tfw the Nanaya family was killed by Kiritsugu Emiya in Fate timelines

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>>44090361
Ciel's is kino bro. The other shit is valid issues about the company though it's irrespective of the product they put out being the goat.

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>>44090359
correct

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>>44090361
>How about the fact that it took 15 years to come out and only has half the fucking story? Or the fact that he only released it to the Switch and PS4?
This is Takeuchi fault.
Nasu is to blame only for not being able to say no to Takeuchi being a jew.
>Or the fact that Ciel's route was retarded?
this is relative

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>>44090373
Why would that situation even occur? Pretty sure Kiritsugu gets dismembered before he knows what hits him if he tried.

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>>44090361
Complaints about business practices have no relevance to the actual product/story delivered.
>Or the fact that Ciel's route was retarded?
no

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>>44090388
Kerry would probably just mail them a block of C4.

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>>44090387
>>44090374
The actual product and story was half fucking completed you dunces.

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>>44090366
interesting. i wonder though, it is stated that sou got weaker and weaker as soon as he got out of the mountain. does something similar happened to kiri when he developed paternal love for shiki and stopped being a demon hunter? was he out of his prime against kouma?

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>>44090397
The text part is ready and Takeuchi probably already drawed whatever he needs.
It all falls flat on the fact that Takeuchi wants to use the gacha game as "important timespots for merchandising".
Look I wanted that red garden was brought along as well, that doesn't mean what we got is shit.
If you didn't like the result, fine, you like what you like.

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>>44090392
I think a clan of assassins who even their allies despise probably is cautious enough to not get wiped out by unabomber tactics.

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>>44090397
This is a complaint about business practices

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>you can't talk about the lore if I don't know know it myself

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anyone can post anything they want here, the only consequences are people disagreeing with you
or jannies banning you but that is another matter

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>>44090407
He still took bodyguard jobs and shit but yeah he was out of his prime going by how he had his shoulder busted up and hadn't hunted in a long time. Nevertheless, that's more like generic 'rust' from not practicing than anything special. The Nanaya still lived in the same location, are linked to karma/supernaturals and hold a very special inversion impulse that seems to connect them to a more "bare" state of being. So I don't think the same would apply. Look at Shiki afterall, he becomes a transcendent murderer within an instant after living like normal for most of his life.

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>>44090417
Most of us do, we just think most of it is dogshit and realize it's 99% just dressing for what actually matters in the story. Largely entirely irrelevant depending on the work too.

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>>44090416
No. The Remake is incomplete. Far Side is the meat of the story and it wasn't included. It is an incomplete product.

>>44090412
>muh Takeuchi
Why does everyone like to blame Takeuchi and act as if Nasu isn't as complicit? Nothing happens without his approval so he bears just as much blame.

I never called Ciel's route shit, I just called it retarded. It didn't resolve any of the problems from the original, took out a really good scene, and substituted actual character development with meaningless chuuni word salad. Better than the original, but that's not a very high bar.

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>>44090465
>The Remake is incomplete
Again, this is a complaint about business practices. It doesn't detract from the quality (or lack of) from what we actually got.

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>>44090465
What do you miss.

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>>44090465
The biggest problem with Ciel's route was that there wasn't a character like Noel.

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TsukiRe should've dropped the FGO connections

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>>44090474
Yes it does. A product being incomplete makes it an inferior product.

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>>44090516
If it never actually comes out, then you can hold this view. But otherwise you're just upset it's an episodic release which has no bearing on the quality of the story itself.

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>>44088511
I was surprised by how entertaining Mothman was.
Really cool guy.

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>>44090536
I hate it when I feel like my consciousness has been jettisonned.

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>>44090465
>meaningless chuuni word
EOP detected

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>>44090465
Your opinion is shit.

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>>44090529
The story is worse since it is missing half of it.

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Why she is willing to do that in this route, when Shiki doesn't want to, but on her route which Shiki wants to become her underling she doesn't do it.

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>>44090558
This is the equivalent of complaining about an anime after season 1 because season 2 hasn't come out yet and is scheduled for the future.

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>>44090558
something something Tsukihime OG didn't release with all routes.

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>>44090560
This seems to be mistaken going by the ending.

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>>44090572
Except this isn't a new product, this is a remake of an old product that doesn't include all of the content from the old product.

>>44090551
As shit as yours's.

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>>44090587
>Except this isn't a new product
completely irrelevant and doesn't have anything to do with what I said

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>>44090558
Cutting a cake in half doesn't make it taste worse.

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does Remake have the ending where Shiki dreams about priest Roa dying in his brain?

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>>44090587
this is a new product though, it's not just a remaster but a complete remake with new plot elements, characters and so on.

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>>44090571
Because her state of mind. In CIel route she's prioritizing obtaining him and everything else secondary. Though if the manga is any indication she does dream of what if she had. So we may see something like this. Though in the end, in Arc route with it's themes it feels more fitting(at least until Arc True/Tsuki 2) to value the brief time they have together rather than turn him into something else. She's also obviously fearful of sucking his blood and killing him since she loves him so much and has that desire that Shiki has. They're holding back. Alsooooooo in Ciel true she's not actually offering to drink his blood but to give him her blood so it's still different.

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>>44090610
He talks to Roa in both Ciel endings before the pages scatter.

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>>44090595
You're acting as if the Remake is a wholly new product, it isn't. It's a remake of a complete product that was released 20 years ago that was advertised for over 10 years as a complete remake. No, it isn't the same the 500 Near Side floppys that they sold at Comiket 6 months before the actual release.

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>>44090610
Yeah.

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>>44090626
Again, this is completely irrelevant to the previous discussion. Are you feeling okay? Your complaints are going all over the place now.

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>sees pic
I wonder who this guy is
>hears voice
Could be aaaaanyone
>hears rhetoric
defo original character
>starts eating people
hmmm
>says name
gosh, I'm so surprised.

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>>44090641
Again, you seem to be completely incapable of realizing that a product is inherently inferior if it is incomplete. Are you feeling okay? You mind seems to be going all over the place now.

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>>44090654
Okay now, we've circled back to the original point. Like I said before, what you are doing is essentially complaining about book 1 of a trilogy not completing the story or season 1 of the anime not finishing everything. It's relatively nonsensical. If you personally dislike episodic release, I cannot stop you as that's just a personal thing. But in terms of the actual body of work that was delivered, no there is no detraction in quality.

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>>44090610
yes but it's a bit worse

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>>44089755
>>44089744
Seems like the old guards that gate kept FGO are gone. It’s a shame since the lore of FGO is fucking retarded and so is the story. I can’t take any of that low effort garbage seriously.

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>>44090664
If an author decides to rewrite a past book, but decides to split the rewrite in half because he's spending all his time writing capeshit, then the rewrite is inherently inferior by virtue of not being the complete story of the original.

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>>44090674
>Seems like the old guards that gate kept FGO are gone.
Just how autistic can you be

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>>44090683
I really don't understand why you're fixated on this "rewrite a past book" angle. It changes absolutely nothing I said and your complaint is directed at the author's business practices but not their actual work.

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>>44090685
I dunno coming on here and spouting your autistic garbage lore that doesn’t mean anything is pathetic. Imagine taking that shit seriously kek.

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>>44090674
LB6 alone is longer than Mahoyo. Part of the problem with FGO is that Nasu isn't low effort about it.

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>>44090674
Gotta know it to properly mock and scorn. knowledge makes you stronger.

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>>44090699
You seem upset.
I'm not the guy talking about F/GO btw, I just wanted to point out that you sound really autistic.

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>>44090674
this is hardly the first time theyve come. just wait for a new gacha shiney to come out and theyll leave again

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>>44090702
Imagine thinking Mahoyo is less effort than any gacha chapter.

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>>44090712
That's not what I'm saying.

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>>44090702
Just because it’s longer doesn’t mean it’s better. This single image of Souji is already better than anything in FGO. It has more character to. It’s just dribble that doesn’t matter so he can pad his garbage out. He gets extra retarded when writing FGO so it’s not impressive.

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>>44090702
If Nasu put some actual effort into Mahoyo it wouldn't still be an incomplete story.

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>>44090719
>doesn’t mean it’s better
This is also not what I'm saying.

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>>44090730
It’s already a complete story about Souji and what the future may hold for Aoko. You’re just too stupid to realize it.

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>EOP surprised by a VN being sold in parts

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>>44090730
Please understand, they decided to put out low effort trash for a decade while capitalizing on gambling addiction while they can. They'll return to form one day or not, in which case, we're free of caring.

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>>44090741
>JOPs already read Mahoyo part 2
what the fuck??? where can I get it???

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>>44090702
No matter how long I spend on the toilet, the result is still shit.

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>>44090740
Nasu says it's not. You're quite literally coping.

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>>44090753
kek, that's an apt analogy

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>It’s already a complete story
I don't have a redman smug enough for this

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>>44090751
you can't even read lmao

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>>44090719
>tfw denied a remake drawn by Koyama
i mean, i know practically everything is from him anyway, but his spritework is so much better

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>>44090773
Not an argument.
Concussion accepted.

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>>44090789
Shiki and his knife are ridiculous. What the fuck is it made of? Is there some arcane shit about it or is it just that good of a knife?

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>>44090821
It's a Nanaya family treasure so with the amount of demons, vampires, and whatever else it's killed it's probable a goddamn NP by now

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>>44090821
It has Nanaya swag protections, the most strong element in nasuverse

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>>44090835
Now that you mention it. Nasu probably is going to explicitly make the Nanaya some kind of relic or something.

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If Shirou was the protagonist of remake he'd have no trouble being in a relationship with both Arcueid and Ciel, and they'd live in the Tohno mansion to boot because he also takes care of the emotional needs of his imouto.

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Roa is like that tutorial pop up.

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>>44090879
Broa

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>>44090821
Not as strong as the Kiri stick.

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>>44090888
Yeah, but after a couple years of killing dead apostles?

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>>44090879
>>44090887
I need art of Shiki carrying Roa around in a backpack running away from Red Arc like Banjo and Kazooie

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Starting to think the TM fans that supposedly "read" everything but FGO have not, actually

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>>44090926
I would imagine that the number of people here that have played extra and or read other fate spinoffs is probably pretty low in general.

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People are obsessed with making Vlov look like the real final boss

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>>44090926
Need Tamamo wife

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>>44090926
>think
Don't hurt yourself now. New endeavors should be undertaken incrementally.

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>>44090967
>Seibah

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>>44090979
Saber from Melty Blood.

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>>44090967
I mean he's mostly the butt of the joke in MBTL so I can't really blame people for dreaming.

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>>44090967
Must be NA art.

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>>44091000
no idea but this one is takeuchi and still Vlov has the big bad guy spot

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>>44090991
You mean Roa? I don't think Vlov is made a joke out of in MBTL.

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>>44091011
Never played boss rush?

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>>44091011
He loses to Miyako, Hisui, Kohaku, Noel, etc. Basically, he's the designated shitter for weak characters to beat.

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>>44091007
Kouma looking like the big bad

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>>44091021
Hisui and Kohaku happen in dreams and Noel outright says she didn't beat him in her win quote.

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>>44091000
official art that came with the game.

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>>44091056
Sure but I mean it's still a joke on the meta level. Plus there's that boss rush.

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Who will be the Type Lumina.
And what Lumina is to have a Type.

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I like to reread the old TM Ace interview where Nasu and Takeuchi explain that they added Noel because they realised Tsukihime was lacking a teacher character.

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>>44090272
He died and reincarnate into Shiki

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>>44091627
Why is she looking at him like that.

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>>44091639
She'll fuck anyone but Guda.

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same as shirou's "Toriga, offu"

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but wow, I never thought I would hate Arcueid as much as in this scene
I usually can take edgy characters fine to the point of liking them, but the rage this bitch behavior is causing, I don't know if it the seyuu acting or writing, or even both
never felt this way in a japanese work

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>>44091678
And all you did was slit her throat after she confessed her love for you.

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>>44091639
admiration and subconscious lust

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>>44091695
I-I just did th-that b-because I wanted t-to see the normal ending f-first o-kay?!

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YumiDuka

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Shiki finding reality layers and timelines death points and deleting the gacha when

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>>44091712
You don't get to make the choice lmao the game forces you into that ending first

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>>44091653
That scene was kino. Shikis anger unsealed the memory he wanted to keep locked. The "click" was the sound of the lock when Arc was opening the door he heard back then. After that we got flashes of empty room>room covered in blood>body parts in the room covered in blood. And then some random Roa memory pops out but Shiki tells him to fuck off. The zoom on Shiki eye switching to his POV was cool too

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I currently do hate her

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>>44091844
yeah the whole animation was pretty bad ass
> The "click" was the sound of the lock when Arc was opening the door he heard back then
oh thought it would be a magic circuit like Shirou

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>>44091857
How? She's so perfect, so cute, so stupid, so sincere, so naive, so pure, so innocent... Even having read the normal and true endings for Ciel route yesterday I still love that dumb cat vampire

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>>44091844
it's great how Roa just starts picturing Arc in the castle and Shiki tells him to fuck off

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>>44091877
Oh I'm not denying that Arc funny vamp mode is the cutest thing ever.
But, let's say that Red Arcueid or Warcueid as called in the past is basically the worst personality she ever had, at least on this scene.
I never felt rage over a bitch like now.

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>>44091891
It's still the same Arc. That's just what she's like.

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>>44091899
Well, this route kinda proved that funny vamp was just her being a good liar, so I guess indeed, this is what she is trully like.

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>>44091906
She's incapable of lying. She's just immature.

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>>44090782
Same energy

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>>44091906
holy shit imagine misunderstanding a character this badly

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>>44091923
I don't think you have any way to back that up.
In a future Arc true ending maybe you are right, but she said outright she was lying, she even knew about Roa with SHIKI and Shiki link.
She is a bitch. Not that she is the only one though.

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>>44091942
Not him but it's not hard to back that up
>The main heroine of the story. She has the appearance of a woman around 16-17. Her real age is about 800-900. That said, the total time she's been active is less than an year. She's a genuine bloodsucker who came to Souya town in pursuit of the vampire Roa. An invigorating heroine with looks and a personality unbecoming of a vampire, who gets killed by the protagonist in her introduction scene. She gets interested in Shiki's murder skills and asks him for his help. She's Chaotic Good. Introverted (extroverted when it comes to Shiki), cheerful, and active. Since her appearance is stuck in an late teens form, her mental age is also not matured. Not caring about details is in her personality. She got happy-go-lucky ever since Shiki killed her, but she still has her vast knowledge and dry humor (her logical nature as a True Ancestor), resulting in an unbalanced personality, carefree yet intellectual.
>After being broken as a True Ancestor beyond repair, she grew greatly interested in Shiki, and this interest eventually developed into affection, which was taken to extreme level of loving Shiki's life, so she wants to protect not only Shiki himself, but also everything Shiki approves. Except when she is rampaging or awakened. In Ciel's route, the awakened Arc's directive was to first obtain Shiki, and only then respect his life. And to obtain Shiki, she chose the frightening method of eliminating all obstacles.

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>>44091844
So much went into every scene. Jesus.

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>>44091861
I think it also represents the knife being released. As well as his bare self as a killer.

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>>44092025
And then Roa put on Kamina glasses and flew away. Kino
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6LFOIofRE

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>>44092064
ENTER

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>>44092064
>this little shit knows and mastered every Nanaya clan fighting technique including their ultimate move. By the age of 8

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>>44092147
Me on the right

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>>44092106
Most absurd shit is he has it embedded in his memory just from watching Kiri.

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>>44092308
Kiara?
Rita?

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>>44092315
>Shiki realizes the truth about Mario.
He's smarter than majority of the readers.

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>>44092329
Indeed, I haven't noticed yet.

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>Ciel was Roa's 15th Reincarnation
>SHIKI's the 17th
who was the 16th?

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>>44092348
SHIKI

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>>44092348
SHIKI was 16, Shiki was 17

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>>44092329
He figured out that Vlov true power is actually cold related during their first meeting in the hotel but essentially goes "it's not the time to think about it"

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This is actually on the nose, I do need to sleep.

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>>44092393
I wonder how many people who say TR is too long actually took her advice and then woke up to finish it or continued right after?

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>>44092410
Yeah reading two endings in a row when one is certainly a lot longer can fuck people's perceptions of it.
Like I see people bitch about how long it was and it's like they just decided to check the other ending and expected it to be the same length right after the Arc choice in the park.

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>>44092410
I can actually drink a coffee and keep going but as >>44092418 said
>Yeah reading two endings in a row when one is certainly a lot longer can fuck people's perceptions of it.
There were countless times I had to reread scenes because I couldn't read properly and the story later didn't make sense. Fortunately I learned that before any ending.

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So basically.

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fucking lying whore