/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Is Gensokyo a land that should be preserved or is it a wicked land that necessitate destruction?

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>>44069503
It's a land that is seriously lacking in pregnant youkai women. I intend to change that.

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>>44069503
Preserved.

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>>44069503
i vote for the preservation of cute girls

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>>44069503
This is what Yukari actually believes
Lol
Lmao even

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>>44077295
>This is what Yukari actually believes
believes what?

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>>44077328
You have to have passed your critical thinking classes to post on /jp/

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>>44069503
for as long as they rely on ignorant, fearful humans to sustain their existance, the latter

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>>44079945
No, I want to fuck youkees and have half-youkai kids.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know whether Yukari is good or evil. I'd have to meet her in real life to learn more.
I don't really have much against feeding humans to Youkai. They need to eat, and its not too different from us cultivating cows and chickens. There's plenty of normal animals that exist at this moment that can and have eaten humans before. Preferably they'd be abducting serial killers and rapists, of which there is no shortage of. Even if they just abducted random prisoners from the US alone they'd effectively have an infinite supply of food.

Youkai are sentient, and although they aren't human they do express complex emotions. Differences should be appreciated rather than divisive.

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>>44080033
I somewhat disagree, Youkai are basically sapient parasitic egregores made by the falsehoods of man and were possibly manufactured by the lunarians to keep humanity in a state of fear, they are little more than animals with barely any civility, they can't produce anything on their own without stealing it from humans in someway.

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>>44080143
I really wouldn't be much better than them if I collapsed Gensokyo and murdered everyone, humans and "gods" included.
Its not surprising that they've adapted much from humanity considering that its humans which brought them into existence in the first place. Calling them nothing more than thiefs is wrong since intelligent, creative youkai do exist. Youkai transmutation does exist, meaning that its possible for them to exist aside from fear, and its debatable whether they even actually need fear and/or human consumption in the first place to exist.

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>>44069503
Not preserved, but exploited.

[Anonymous No.]

its safe haven for youkai so they will overcome humanity when humanity will become vunerable again because of the bomb(s)

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>>44069503
If tomorrow a land like Gensokyo was discovered, full of beings we thought were mere legends, what do you think would happen? What would you do?

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>>44088228
Human greed is endless, so probably exploit it along with mass hysteria because humans are dumb creatures who can't accept beings different from them

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>>44088247
How expensive is a tour of "The Mighty Yokai's flower field!"?

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>>44088228
What could I do? Powerful psychics and governments would get there first.
If someone could harness the various powers within Gensokyo, they'd be unstoppable. Youkai would be studied, understood, and then the knowledge would be used to create supersoldiers.

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>>44088277
Wouldn't it be a huge international scandal? I mean, Gensokyo is in Japan, so they would try and claim ownership of anything and anyone found in here and I can't see the US or China agreeing to that.

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>>44069503
Ehhh.

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>>44088298
The CIA alone is a formidable organization. Japanese jurisdiction would not be enough to deter other governments from sticking their fingers into something as significant as an extra-dimensional, alien reserve.
Of course, the CIA wouldn't need to operate in a clandestine capacity. The US already has great bearing in Japan with the military bases and all. It [Japan] doesn't really have a choice in the matter...

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The feds have probably already discovered the portal to Gensokyo and sealed it long ago. You could try astral projecting there though

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>>44088335
That raises another interesting scenario, mainly how the other superpowers would react at the US trying to nab all the mystical shit in there.
How far do you think China is willing to go get something like the miracle mallet? The moment someone discovers the elixir of immortality is hidden somewhere, well...

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>>44088298
How is the jurisdiction of legends? Does Hecc belong to the orcs(greeks)?

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>>44088277
I mean, even if you couldn't physically go there and get a 2hu wife, you could still do shit like become an immortal shikaisen, or learn magic and shit.

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Which one will be the first to get suicided by two shots on the back of the head? My bet is Ms. Infinite, Free, Energy.

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>>44088407
They would be very willing, though they'd need to play their cards correctly. The US is already in possession of ridiculously advanced technology that other countries want, so maintaining secrecy and security isn't anything new. Rather than direct intervention, the discovery of Gensokyo would inspire them to spend more money and research on psychic powers and the supernatural.
I can't see the elixir of immortality being very enticing. Its something that's only immediately beneficial to individuals, and it doesn't offer enhanced strength or durability (only regeneration), though this wouldn't be immediately apparent. Yukari's teleportation ability is a thousand times more useful.
>>44088440
Whatever organization and/or government gets there first wouldn't want to share, and there's little the residents of Gensokyo could do against a full blown military assault, so cooperating would be in their best interest. I don't know that you'd even have an opportunity to do any of that.

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>>44088594
What I meant was that if Gensokyo were real, that implies stuff like Taoist ascension is as well, the knowledge alone would spell disaster to a lot of organizations, I'd imagine pharmaceutical companies would want all that esoteric knowledge to be kept a secret so people wouldn't all try and become undying demigods instead of taking ibuprofen; historians would throw a fit; and the government would try and censor any guide to becoming a magician.
If Gensokyo were real, you'd be called a conspiracy theorist for bringing it up.

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>>44088679
Yes, but only if it was discovered in secret, and I'm going off of the assumption that it was discovered in the open per >>44088228
It would be so revolutionary that I don't think anything could be done to stop it. There's absolutely no telling what would happen. Funnily enough superheroes and supervillains would likely become reality, though instead of aliens or genetically engineered super soldiers you'd have people with affinities towards magic.

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>>44088720
>>44088679
>>44088594
How would the world countries go about treating youkai, celestials, gods, lunarians and all of those beings?

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>>44088720
thats an interesting take
that would mean that Gensokyo itself wouldn't be needed anymore for youkai because belief in supernatural things has returned

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>>44088742
I think it's gonna be dependent on a case to case basis.
The SDM would be pretty hated, while Miko returning to reclaim her throne would bring about the second age of Japanese Imperialism.

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>>44088771
>The SDM would be pretty hated
I thought the same too, I think there would be protests as to how the vampires daily receive human cattle as blood bank and people would see those as a violation of human rights

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>>44088748
Would Yukari be for or against this? Are her goals about giving a safe-haven for Yokai, or about separating them from the world?

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>>44088782
Yukari and the other sages would probably take themselves as authorities on these matters and try to bargain with governments to ensure that youkai aren't oppressed or seen with hostility

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>>44088780
That implies Vampires would even be accepted and not hunted down on sight.
The SDM would realistically become public enemy number 1, two nigh immortal vampires with the minds of children, one of which can destroy an entire city with the palm of her hand and a maid who can stop time and clear out an army one soldier at a time.
Vampire hunting is back baby.

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>>44088793
>try to bargain with governments
Lol, none of the sages we saw have enough power to say no to the US.
How long until some of them sell out Gensokyo for their safety?

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>>44088594
>and there's little the residents of Gensokyo could do against a full blown military assault
lmao

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>>44088797
I think the public would have a big distaste for youkai who are seen as having an oppressive attitude toward humans, such as the vampires's complete disregard of human rights, man-eating youkai like rumia casually practicing human hunting, and tengu who gatekeep their territory from humans, though this one is not as severe as the other two cases

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>>44088814
I can count on my hands the amount of Gensokyans who could beat an army. Minus a few exceptions, there is a reason why Gensokyo needed to be secluded in the first place.
Yukari herself would kneel, Yuuka doesn't stand a chance, unless she has some broken ability, she's done for.

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>>44088811
You really don't know how handy Yukari's gap ability is in a situation like this, if she deems someone in the government to be a threat to her land she could assassinate them from the shadows

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>>44088797
Can Vampires create more of them? I could see Remi trying to build an army if she feels threatened enough.

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>>44088742
Certain youkai/gods might be reconciled with their particular religions. Certain countries would try to appease them to gain access to their powers while others might just kidnap them. Difficult to say.
Scientifically speaking, their existences would be described as similar to thought forms.
>>44088748
Probably.

[Anonymous No.]

If Gensokyo is discovered alongside the Lunar Capital aswell, would the Outside World be inclined to pick the side of Gensokyo or the Moon?

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>>44088867
nobody would willingly join the moonies

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>>44088836
Yukari in specific I believe is overstimated in the fandom. Her gaps aren't all-powerful, as she couldn't go to the moon easily and I believe there was another instance of her gaps needing multiple trips to get her somewhere (I believe it was in SWR, don't quote me on that). Point being, even if Yukari were to manipulate the gaps of up and down and make an armada fall to space, all it takes is an airstrike or two and some snipers and she's done for.

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>>44088867
They are both guiltu of having done bad things to humanity, though i'd say the lunarians are atleast civil about their stance and are just paranoid while for youkai it's their pride/enjoyment

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>>44088814
The US military has millions of employees, the best reconnaissance in the world, superweapons that could annihilate all of Gensokyo at once, and has done research on the supernatural previously. Some youkai/gods could fight off battalions of soldiers but they'd crumble eventually. "Lose the battle but not the war".
>>44088836
In a full out war any assassinations would be attributed to her/other youkai and the rest of the country/military would keep functioning. Its something she'd need to use preemptively.

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>>44088867
I didn't mention the Lunar Capital in my original post because, considering the lengths they've gone to in order to hide themselves, if they were found would mean war. A war that we would win eventually, but not as we are now.

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>>44088899
Wait you're OP?

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>>44088907
No, I'm >>44088228
I'm also some other peeps on here but shush, need to keep discussion alive.

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>>44088874
She had trouble getting up youkai mountain.
People also forget that youkai powers aren't infinite. Yukari and other youkai would become exhausted eventually.

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>>44088936
Also how should we go about the human village? Should we let them be, enlighten them about the outside world or bomb it?

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>>44088950
Keep them around and isolated.

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>>44088950
people rarely say this but i'd say we bomb it, imho, the villagers seem in a hopeless mental state to me, they are very superstitious and would likely deem our "science" to be wicked or youkai-like, they were indoctrinated since birth to see the world around them in a schizo way

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>>44088830
>I can count on my hands the amount of Gensokyans who could beat an army
Delusional. Even fairies could prove to be a fatal annoyance with the fact they resurrect after dying. Imagine the likes of Cirno or Clownpiece going full Allah Akbar every single day.
>there is a reason why Gensokyo needed to be secluded in the first place.
It wasn't because of technology surpassing magic, but because most youkai species need belief to exist (with possible exceptions such as vampires and magicians, as Remilia, Flandre, and Patchouli were around the outside world before getting into Gensokyo for unknown reasons, for its noted that Akyuu didn't acknowledge the SDM at all before the Red Mist Incident). This isn't a "humanity fuck yeah" setting, my dude.
>Yukari herself would kneel
Gappi? With her hax? Its a wonder she didn't go into a murdering spree to make humans fear the night once more, maybe she isn't that bad after all.
>Yuuka doesn't stand a chance
She's at Yukari's level, she could do something.

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>>44088950
First things first, we'd need to get them immunized against common illness lest we find ourselves on another situation like the first contact between indigenous people and colonizers.

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>>44088986
Easy there Gates
>>44088964
You seriously underestimate how strong humanity is.
And immortality isn't the trump card you think it is. They can't be killed sure, but they can still be imprisoned and incapacitated, and imprisonment as an immortal must be terrifying.

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>>44088964
I didn't mean that they are completely harmless, of course Fairies could be fatal, but there is a big difference between being a fatal annoyance and being able to stand up against the biggest, most well armed military on the world.
And as we discussed earlier, Yukari is severely overestimated in the fandom, her hax has been either retconned or was all a lie of the woman herself.
Yuuka gets sniped, gg ez.
Overall, I believe the SDM could pose a real challenge, but pretty much no one else.
Maybe Hecatia if she comes with all her forces plus the support of everyone from all the sages could win, but that would need Gensokyans to come together for something besides partying for once.

[Anonymous No.]

I think you guys forget who the true owner of Gensokyo is
It's not Yukari or the Sages, they are just kind of like politicians of the land, the real authority is the Dragon God

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>>44089042
Youkai Mountain tho? Buddhist Temple? Those are no challenges?

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>>44088986
>you vill not study taoism
>you vill not attain immortality
>you vill keep gettin vaccinated

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>>44089003
>You seriously underestimate how strong humanity is.
I didn't say that, its just that in this case they are outclassed
>but they can still be imprisoned and incapacitated
That's a good point, and maybe you could knock an unsuspecting Cirno out, but remember that in this situation of total war, you would see a blue point in the sky before a a rain of ice shards fell upon you and other pedestrians

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>>44089064
>Buddhist Temple
gg ez, none of them have any particularly problematic skill.
>Youkai Mountain
If we are counting every Yokai, that can be a bit of a problem, but if we are talking about the Moriya shrine again, ez. Maybe Sanae can weasel her way out of conflict by claiming to be a Japanese citizen trapped there.

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>>44089080
Also, Fairies don't have regular immortality, they respawn, so it's possible they can't even be imprisioned, as they'd just respawn in the forest or something.

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>>44089080
>situation of total war
That's what I think is wrong about what you say. Gensokyo is filled with self serving, egotistical people who'd rather sell their neighbor than fight alongside them.
Or they are dumb, like fairies.
There wouldn't be any strategy or clever tactics using their abilities, it would just be lone Yokai skirmishes after another.

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>>44089042
>Overall, I believe the SDM could pose a real challenge, but pretty much no one else.
SDMfags are worst simps than Yukarifags, Delusionals.
Did we get another batch of Secondaries?

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>>44089208
They aren't delusional, the SDM is no joke, being capable of destroying things by squeezing your palm, being someone with tons of knowledge concerning magic and books, being someone who has the speed of a tengu and strength of an oni, and being someone who can stop time and manipulate space on a whim seem like a pretty big deal to me

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>>44089208
In 17.5 Flan's ability was the only thing that could stop Yuuma, so it's easy to say that the mansion is the only group with access to mass destruction weaponry.
Plus time stopping bullshit which proved to work even on Yorihime in SSiB.
Other groups can't come close to the level of destruction they can cause.

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Do you think that if Gensokyo went to war with the outside world, they would suddenly all organize and unite against it, or fight by factions? Like: The SDM, Hakugyoukuro, Eientei, Moriya Shrine, ect.

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>>44089292
There'd be some futile attempts to rile them all together made by the more rational of individuals, but in the end everyone would fight for themselves and their tribe.
Hell, I'd go as far as to say some groups would straight up sell out to the outside world.

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>>44089042
>being a fatal annoyance and being able to stand up against the biggest, most well armed military on the world.
Fairies alone maybe not, as the poor human-mosquitoes hybrids in miniature are a step lower than humans in the food chain, but even then they would prove to be quite scary as terrorists, now imagine other species such as magicians who are basically fairies in steroids with how much bullshit they can pull off, even worse when you put the two species together, as fairies are extremely susceptible to have their power increased through magical experimentation (Clownpiece, Nigga Cirno)
>Yukari is severely overestimated in the fandom, her hax has been either retconned or was all a lie of the woman herself.
Who knows? Maybe is just her luring others into thinking that she's not that strong, I don't see Gappi as someone that would care about how people would perceive her.
>Yuuka gets sniped, gg ez.
Knowing her, she would hear the trigger's detonation, grab the bullet with her teeth and spit it out as if it was bubblegum.
>SDM, Hecatia
Food for thought how every faction would fight and how well, but sure as hell they wouldn't lose, especially when technology doesn't have any real counter agaisnt magic.

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>>44089318
>I'd go as far as to say some groups would straight up sell out to the outside world.
Hey, this is a very interesting question, what would happen if Gensokyo surrendered to the outside world? What would the people of the Outside world do to Gensokyo?

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are talking a lot about who would win in a War: Outside World vs. Gensokyo,
but no one has ever wondered what would happen after one side won, what would
Gensokyo do with the outside world? Or vice versa?

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>>44089400
Youkai would simply take over and claim the Earth as their own, this time they would make sure that they don't go on the verge of extinction as they did long ago, they may allow humans to repopulate a bit, but only those who fear them.

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>>44089128
Interesting, maybe it could be the case.
>>44089166
>Gensokyo is filled with self serving, egotistical people who'd rather sell their neighboor than fight alongside them.
The girls might mistreat eachother from time to time, but they aren't heartless and I doubt they wouldn't align agaisnt meanie outsiders that want to kill/enslave/contain-in-a-lab-for-research them
Besides, the USA would also have to deal with the likes of China and Russia refusing to let them take the full cake, so there's that.

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>>44089166
>Gensokyo is filled with self serving, egotistical people who'd rather sell their neighbor than fight alongside them.
I think you may be right, the Sages intentionally maintain a "balance" between the different powers in Gensokyo and prevents them from gaining too much influence, those presumably being the Youkai Mountain, the Scarlet Devil Mansion, the Myouren Temple, Miko's faction and so on.

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>>44089417
What would happen to the Gensokyans if a country like Russia or China, or even worse, North Korea got their hands on them?

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>>44089325
Your first point again assumes Gensokyo would come together and use all those tactics, but I just find that very hard to believe. Fairies wouldn't strap bombs to themselves and rush the enemies, they would prank them with buckets of water or just not care.
And that's the point I'm making, if Gensokyo were to rally under a single banner and fight off the invasion, they would win, but that just isn't happening.
Countless times the safety of their land was in peril and they all just laid back and left someone else to handle the issue, so they'd do that here as well until it's too late.
>Food for thought how every faction would fight and how well
I like this thought experiment, so I'll start. The Myouren temple gets stomped, no contest. The biggest heavy hitters being Unzan and Byakuren, but they are physicals threats. There is the possibility of Byakuren's black magic she used in the past to come in handy, but that's all speculation.

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>>44089444
>I like this thought experiment, so I'll start. The Myouren temple gets stomped, no contest. The biggest heavy hitters being Unzan and Byakuren, but they are physicals threats. There is the possibility of Byakuren's black magic she used in the past to come in handy, but that's all speculation.
Miko's Mausoleum also get stomped, imho the only serious threats are the Youkai Mountain considering how cooperative they are with themselves and thus would handle an invasion well and the SDM which has quite a few broken powers

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>>44089417
>The girls might mistreat eachother from time to time, but they aren't heartless and I doubt they wouldn't align agaisnt meanie outsiders that want to kill/enslave/contain-in-a-lab-for-research them
That's the reason I think they might sell out.
Take Tewi for instance, would she fight to the last bunny or would she convince Eirin to give her expertise to the US in exchange for protection; Miko would instantly change sides and go back to Japan and gain influence there; the Tengu are too prideful and isolated to work with, say, the Oni and so on.

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>>44089474
Would Miko even be on Gensokyo's side in the first place? Wasn't her plan to resurrect outside and only got to Gensokyo by accident?

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>>44089502
Perhaps she would, it's interesting to consider how there would be potential traitors in Gensokyo who would side with the Outside World and vice versa

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>>44089520
Miko would 100% jump ship the first chance she gets. She wanted to return on the outside world like a saint and now she has a chance.
Maybe Hecatia would also at least be neutral, as I believe she was from the outside originally.
Eirin would maybe sell out Gensokyo to not fight.
Maybe Kanako would try and strike a deal to get out of that mess.
How many people are actually loyal to Gensokyo?

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>>44089550
>Maybe Hecatia would also at least be neutral, as I believe she was from the outside originally.
You can apply that to the SDM too, heck they even caused a rampage there canonically, I think Remilia might take our side but only if she gets benefits for herself atleast.

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>>44089561
>caused a rampage there canonically
meant to say caused a rampage in gensokyo specifically then they arrived

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>>44077328
That she controls gensokyo like some shadowy puppet master

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>>44089409
>>44089400
There is also the implication with the Ghostly Field Club lore that humanity of the not so far future is becoming... bored? of the increasingly scientific, secular world post-youkai to the point of actively introducing delusion into society.

I think ZUN's implication is that Humanity is unwittingly making a void in purpose for either youkai to reclaim their space in the larger world, or for something else to fill that vacuum.

[Anonymous No.]

At this point it'll be easier to count who DOES fight for Gensokyo.
>The Sages and their subordinates.
>The Dragon God.
>The Hakurei God.
>Myouren Temple.
>Reimu, Marisa and Youmu.
Who else?

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>>44089624
Strangely enough the Scarlet Devil Mansion don't seem to be all that loyal to Gensokyo, they canonically caused a rampage there when they first appeared until they got their asses beat by someone which forced them to begrudgingly agree to the rules, if the Outside World invaded there's the possibility that they might take our side and see it as an opportunity to conquer Gensokyo.

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>>44089640
>if the Outside World invaded there's the possibility that they might take our side and see it as an opportunity to conquer Gensokyo
And then they betray them
>Our side
Are you on the side of the H*m*n*t*?

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>>44089435
Imagine the shitstorm that would cause a faction gaining more power than the rest. The sages don't do it to annoy people, they do it because its for the best to be that way.
>>44089439
It would be similar to what would happen if the USA won, but honestly? It depends: they could go full genocide and/or containment, or maybe preservation of youkai and maybe inclusion in outsider society, such as Putin relocating poor Kogasa into an appartment in a soviet block in eastern Russia (that story of Kogasa getting saved by an outsider by an outsider made by an anon, anyone?)
>>44089444
>Countless times the safety of their land was in peril and they all just laid back and left someone else to handle the issue, so they'd do that here as well until it's too late.
Maybe, maybe not. As I said, it wouldn't be a blitzkrieg for USA to just go Japan and put all of its military there: Russia and China wouldn't allow that, causing things to go very slow. Maybe it wouldn't be too late for them to reunite under a single banner.
>The Myouren temple gets stomped, no contest
You are underestimating Byakuren, she is potentially the strongest magician at the moment in Gensokto (she is 1100 years old, Patchouli is only around 100 years old, and I am sure the librarian alone would bring a lot of pain), she is not going down easily.

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>>44089654
>You get a refugee 2hu wife.
Invasion NOW!

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>>44089681
>>44089654
Kidding aside, what if the humans turn out to be so perverted that they sexually enslave the captured citizens of Gensokyo?

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>>44089690
I don't know, do you find monsters in human skin to be attractive?

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>>44089487
You make some good points, but the outside world would also crumble too under self sabotage and more political tensions over who gets the magical land. Still, I can see Gensokyo winning more often that they are losing.

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>>44089654
>You are underestimating Byakuren, she is potentially the strongest magician at the moment in Gensokto
I did account for her magic, but since most of it is unknown and she fight melee(magic enhanced but still) only, I said it was only speculation.

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>>44089698
In a non-ironic way I would fuck Koishi, Satori, Yamame and Yuugi in that image.

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>>44089698
some, but those who conquer gensokyo are not as mentally ill as the average /jp/ person so they likely won't sexualize youkai

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>>44089698
Man, I think Yokai would make themselves MORE attractive as to trick humans into having mercy.
>Your ilegal Yokai wife slowly changes her body and personality to fit your tastes so that you won't report until it's too late.
I'd read that

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>>44089708
Anon, today's society is very perverted and they only think about sex, besides, the human forms of the Youkais are supposed to be made to attract humans.

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>>44089715
>Man, I think Yokai would make themselves MORE attractive as to trick humans into having mercy.
That's actually pretty smart in fact I think it might even be the canon reason as to why youkai look like girls with fancy dresses nowadays

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>>44089721
Wasn't that totally canonical?

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>>44089708
Imagine conquering a land in which everywhere you look there are cute, almost unreal girls.
Imagine you are told that, no matter how they look, they are not human.
I mean... I'd feel less bad...

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>>44089730
For things like this I pray that in a hypothetical war Gensokyo would win.

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>>44089730
>>44089718
CIA agents are pretty hardened in the heart, they'd go straight to the point and annihilate youkai

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>>44089690
I can see people losing their dicks to onis.
>>44089698
If you can endure the extreme autism, mages and fairies aren't really monstrous, compared to other species.
>>44089704
> I said it was only speculation.
Possibly just her style, a mage like her cannot live that long without knowing how to throw a fireball, right?

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>>44089749
You'd be the first to be tricked by a Yokai pretending to be you waifu.

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>>44089752
Look, what if in a hypothetical case the Youkais are captured and neutralized and because of their beautiful appearance are sold to millionaires, billionaires and people with a lot of power as sex toys?

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>>44089765
My Waifu is Eirin...?

[Anonymous No.]

This is an interesting point.
What would be the implication of a war against monsters who look like girls?
We assumed this was a normal war, but maybe we are gonna be in an alien war type of deal.

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>>44089766
That'd be dumb considering their "beautiful" appearance are only superficial and not the real deal.
You wanna fuck Yamame, but her real appearance is that of a hideous giant spider, would you still do it? Same apply to Yuugi being an ugly robust Oni, Satori and Koishi being humanoid monkeys and so on

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>>44089775
What if the Youkais decide to adopt their true and terrifying form to scare humans and become more dangerous?

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>>44089766
I'd imagine a black market of desirable Yokai would begin.
Say, a businessman buying a satori to read the minds of rivals and such.

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>>44089781
Anon, I wouldn't fuck a Youkai, I'm just saying that maybe there are people who would.

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>>44089771
Well congrats anon, she most definitely wouldn't fight against you in the war.

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>>44089786
That's a good question, do you think they would use them as objects and tools? Or even Weapons of Mass Destruction?

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>>44089784
Just how much can Yokai shapeshift? This could turn the tides...

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>>44089804
>>44089786
Youkai are sentient beings with their own thoughts
There would probably be laws put in place that prevent inhuman enslavement

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>>44089802
I would infiltrate the lines of the outside world just to betray them to help the Eientei Girls, come on guys, who else would do the same?

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>>44089804
People like Eirin would use their skills as a bargaining chip for sure. Selling her secrets to the highest bidder.
The more dimwitted residents would be sold into slavery or used by the gov.

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>>44089810
>There would probably be laws put in place that prevent inhuman enslavement
Anon, they are prisoners of War, what if humans ironically turn out to be more inhuman than inhuman beings?

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>>44089810
They ARE inhuman though

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>>44089812
We lost another one boys...
These damn sirens!

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>>44089832
To be fair, if you were a POW for the Yokai, they would torture you so that you are terrified of them and when you are broken completely, eat you alive.

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enough about youkai, how would we treat the celestials, gods and lunarians?

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>>44089856
There is a none-zero chance we might never get to see them and they just stay in heaven and the moon.
The moonies at least go to great lenghts to avoid us.

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>>44089843
Humans are pure, unadulterated TRASH. I would rather be shot to death than help such an asshole species.

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>>44089856
Speaking of which, what about the Eientei? The Lunar Capital? Hakugyoukuro? The Animal Realm?

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>>44089875
>Eientei
Lunarian hideout, they might be seen as traitors to their own kind and likely on the side of Gensokyo
>Lunar Capital
That's what the anon was asking about
>Hakugyoukuro
Just an abode for the dead, nothing too special
>The Animal Realm
Literally located somewhere in Hell, we aren't getting past the Yama

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>Yukari & Yuuka's absolute face of surprise when everyone just wants to kiss them on the lips instead of cower in fear

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>>44089891
>Eirin's face when she realizes that I really just wanted to hug her and help her escape instead of selling her to the outside world.

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>>44089890
>we aren't getting past the Yama
Wrong, I believe Eiki could be gunned down and so her slacker Shinigami

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>>44089940
I believe that Eiki would send everyone to hell after the war.

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>>44089940
Well, you know what they say? Pride comes before a fall.

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But how would (You) react if a magical was discovered, let's say you don't know about Gensokyo for the sake of argument, would you be for peaceful cooperation? Study?
I would honestly want them gone and extinct or at least enslaved. The earth is for man only.

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>>44089956
Wasn't the saying: "The higher they stand, the harder they fall"?

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>>44089951
If Hecatia is a goddess from the outside, what other gods would exist?
Wouldn't I, a christian, be judged by my own god and sent to my own hell?

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>>44089980
By the way, don't you realize that the existence of Gensokyo would imply that magic works? That the rituals and forbidden games of the urban legends would actually work? That witchcraft would work and that gods actually existed?

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>>44089961
I have a similar ideology to yours, except that it's the opposite, humans are trash and anything other than them should rule the earth, I like you anyway!

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>>44089991
That was a point discussed earlier, how magic would be heavily censored as to not disrupt the powers at be.
Imagine an Unabomber type of dude practicing voodoo in his cabin for years in order to kill the president.

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>>44090020
Imagine using magic as Terrorism

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>>44090003
Eh thanks bro! Don't worry, once the free labor and Yokai wives roll around, you'll learn to love your fellow man!

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>>44090024
Or worse, using magic to evade taxes.
That's the reason why you'll be called a nutjob for saying Gensokyo exists.

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>>44090031
>once the free labor and Yokai wives
But Anon! I want to conquer the world and my waifu is Eirin!

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>>44090052
Imagine someone making a pact with the devil to destroy/dominate the world, such things would be censored in a world where Gensokyo, and therefore, magic exists.

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>>44090073
Speaking of the devil, devils are an actual species of youkai in Gensokyo, do you think religious groups like christians might discriminate against specific youkai like those considering they are mentioned in their own books?

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>>44090073
I raise you making a pact with two devils to destroy/dominate the world!

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>>44090090
>do you think religious groups like christians might discriminate against specific youkai
Considering their history, they would discriminate 100% of the residents based on them being pagan entities.

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>>44090091
You would have to sell your soul and your life, and make a Skynet-like attempt at world domination.
>>44090090
They would undoubtedly be discriminated against, perhaps even exterminated, and the SDM would be very much affected.

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>>44090090
I believe that the simple fact that Gensokyo turned out to be real, and therefore, the magic itself, would cause chaos in the outside world by itself, perhaps a huge war among themselves, therefore, in a hypothetical case of war between Gensokyo and the outside world there would be several advantages for Gensokyo since many humans would side with the girls.

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>>44090135
>The Lunar Capital gets to vulture the remains.
Heh, nothing personal earthPLEBS.

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>>44090135
I dunno bout you man, but if some monster dressed like a lil girl came at me requesting help I'm turning back to daddy gov.

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>>44089698
why do they all look mentally ill except for yuugi and yamame?

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>>44090229
Cause the underworld is a place where a lot of schizophrenic youkai reside, Yuugi is sane because she get a lot of sake and Yamame is content enough to be chill

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>>44090252
can youkai even have schizophrenia?

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>>44090268
Koishi

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>>44090198
Nah, you're right, but there would still be people who would join them in Gensokyo, besides, Gensokyo is not only populated by Youkai, there are other creatures as well.

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>>44090308
Koishi is a case of being both a schizophrenic youkai and an autistic youkai at the same time

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>>44090090
>>44090135
Christians would have an incredibly tough time getting into Gensokyo to begin with because the mechanism behind their own religion. See, Gensokyo is a place where things that are forgotten are sent to, while even the lowliest Christian bum is remembered by his Lord.
It's implied the SDM deliberately took advantage of this moving over to Gensokyo to keep their vampire slayers off their trail.
>>44090101
I could see them have a stab at converting fairies, but they're opposed to the idea of Youkai and the Human Village on principal; one is composed of man-eating savages, while the other is composed of pagans who consider monotheism witchcraft. Luckily for Gensokyo, they already have enough problems with their own holdings to prevent them from seriously considering any major attempts at a mission, especially when Big Boi America and Japan call first pickings.

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What would be your favorite post-magic world?
I'd like a cyber-magicpunk dystopia where corpos control magic and magical beings.

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so we know that youkai can infiltrate the village by pretending to be human and hide their youkai nature, but what about the opposite? is it possible for a human to larp as a youkai and not be caught?

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>>44090381
1984 with 2hus

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>>44090482
Interesting but I don't think that's possible, they'll know you're human the moment they smell you or whatever disguise you have falls over.

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>>44090484
>We were always at war with The Lunar Capital.

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>>44090497
Why not just become the Yokai?

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>>44090533
Oceania = The outside world
Eurasia = Lunar Capital
Eastasia = Gensokyo

LOL

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>>44090533
>Using mind readers to police thought crime.

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>>44090482
Since Gensokyo operates on belief, could you turn yourself into a youkai by larping long enough that the humans start to believe it and turn you into one?

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>>44090544
Reimu'd

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>>44089784
then they get steamrolled by saturation bombing
youkai don't like fire just as much as they don't like blessed weapons
them being subtle and trying to secure themselves lucrative positions in society

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>>44090881
>larp
You need to convince fuckton of human then

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>>44089640
>they canonically caused a rampage there when they first appeared until they got their asses beat by someone which forced them to begrudgingly agree to the rules
It wasn't Remilia or Flandre's doing, but an unnamed vampire who got into Gensokyo (is it really that easy to cross the border?) and went full "masquerade violation". The SDM gang would appear much later.

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>>44093989
>them being subtle and trying to secure themselves lucrative positions in society
You missed the other half of your post you retard

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>>44069503
Imagine imprisoning your whole bloodline inside a closed off patch of land just so creatures that feasts on your family on the daily could survive

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>>44089761
>Possibly just her style, a mage like her cannot live that long without knowing how to throw a fireball, right?
did you fucking play the games? do you know what genre they are at least? she can do this:
https://youtu.be/-A6w_cqPGow&t=1m56s

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>>44095177
Watch your tongue with me. The anon I was discussing with said that Byaukuren was a physical threat because of her specialization on enhancing magic, when this is far from the case: a mage is as dangerous as they are old, and Byakuren having a whooping millenia and a century under her belt implies that she's way more powerful than she lets on.

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>>44095177
Well yeah, but that's danmaku, that doesn't really count to how strong someone is magically speaking.
>>44095340
I said she was a physical threat based on what we see in canon. We can, of course, assume the millennia old witch to be able to cast teraflare and destroy the US, or we can just as easily say she forgot how to use her more powerful magic during the years impriosioned in Makai.
If we do this, then we also need to extrapolate every other 2hu's abilities to their absolute highest; Yamame unleashes an illness and wipes out half the humans; Koishi mindbreaks entire armies and so on.
I just think that kind of discussion is not very fructiferous, aside from feeling very non-2hu esque.

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>>44096565
>or we can just as easily say she forgot how to use her more powerful magic during the years impriosioned in Makai.
She didn't remain asleep or something like that, in fact, she made her signature "sorcerer's sutra scroll" while there. Its also implied that not only she met Shinki there, but she may have taken her as a pupil as well, and what little we know about Shinki is that she's a God, with a capital G.
>If we do this, then we also need to extrapolate every other 2hu's abilities to their absolute highest
Thats uncalled for, and quite unnecesary right now.

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>>44097100
>She didn't remain asleep or something like that, in fact, she made her signature "sorcerer's sutra scroll" while there. Its also implied that not only she met Shinki there, but she may have taken her as a pupil as well,
You are correct, I had forgotten about that. I concede.
But still, just how strong could a magician get in touhou? Enough to pose a serious threat to the US army? What's the biggest feat of magic we've seen?

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>>44097239
>You are correct, I had forgotten about that. I concede.
You are good sport, anon, not everyone would do that. I tip my hat to you.
>But still, just how strong could a magician get in touhou?
I don't really know how powerful an endgame mage would look in Touhou, but Akyuu mentions that mages can beat any youkai, provided they have enough magical power (and are wary of surprise attacks) so we can make the guess that they can be insanely powerful.
>Enough to pose a serious threat to the US army?
Who knows? Like an anon mentioned here before, maybe they could do some ritual that kills a president, a general, or something like that alas Death Note, essentialy destroying the opposition from above to bottom.
>What's the biggest feat of magic we've seen?
Not really a magician's feat, but Shinki creating the entirety of Makai and its inhabitants comes to mind. Thats some magic right there.
Aside from that, the four magicians that we all know and love don't really show off that much, aside from Marisa's master spark.

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>>44097476
>You are good sport, anon, not everyone would do that. I tip my hat to you.
Eh, just doing my best to keep the only thread with good discussion healthy. Shitflinging gets so exhausting.
>but Akyuu mentions
She should be taken with a grain of salt, but you probably already knew that.
>do some ritual that kills a president, a general
This point I feel isn't very good. You kill one general, there's gonna be 50 other men to replace him, eventually the US would censor their names, or spread false information to prevent further incident. And killing the president like that would be a death sentence for the 2hus, in the real world of there were a war against Gensokyo, it wouldn't be total war, all the other powers would prevent that, but the second the freaking president of the USA falls down due to magic, no more half measures. I'm talking full support from all the nations and - more crucial - the public. Even you would be for the extermination of a place with people who can point their fingers and you'd be gone.
I could see Yukari preventing magicians from killing someone like that for that very reason.

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>>44097644
>Shitflinging gets so exhausting.
Godspeed, anon.
>She should be taken with a grain of salt, but you probably already knew that.
I do, but I do believe that she's right in general, although she may fall short at the actual specifics.
>And killing the president like that would be a death sentence for the 2hus
Yeah, you are totally right. I thought of that right after making that post. There would also be the problem of martyrs, basically the case of a chicken without a head: no leaders, but many fanatics going all in.
>This point I feel isn't very good.
It was an example from an anon above, but I don't know the full capabilites of an accomplished mage in Touhou to fully answer that. Maybe mind controlling important politicians? Trapping soldiers in illusions? Who knows, I like to think that touhou mages aren't that different to pathfinder's or the elder scrolls ones, so there's that.
>I could see Yukari preventing magicians from killing someone like that for that very reason
Totally.

Also I remembered that Byaukuren managed to escape from Reimu's fantasy seal with enhanced speed, thats quite the feat too.

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>>44098093
There is also the side of intelligence we have to consider. Just how smart is Byakuren? Could she avoid assassination via, say, poison? I could see someone like Miko being at least somewhat aware of the possible ways they might get her, but the nun I'm not so sure.
And talking about intelligence, just how bad would it be if the US got a hold of the Chronicles? Just a handy book explaining any relevant Yokai's strengths.

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>>44098518
>Just how smart is Byakuren? Could she avoid assassination via, say, poison?
She must be super smart. Her experience, age, and her skills as a magician leave no doubt for that. Poison isn't just going to get her in.
>And talking about intelligence, just how bad would it be if the US got a hold of the Chronicles?
It wouldn't be good for Gensokyo and will surely reduce their chances of winning quite a bit, but it may lead to youkai uniting faster when they realise that Joe Biden now knows their strenghts and their weaknesses, so kind of a double edged word.
Would Akyuu willingly give her memoirs to a man in black? She's not that fond of youkai, after all...

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>>44098791
>She must be super smart.
I will fight you on this. Byakuren spent most of her long life trapped in Makai, she had no way of gaining any wisdom, and she got out to Gensokyo, a land in the past. Also before she had no training in matters of war, and it was not like today where anyone knows all the hijinks the gov bodies can get up to, in ancient Japan she would've learned about farming or stitching and magic on her own but little else. All it takes is the CIA dressing an asian like a peasant to get close to Byakuren and poison her with the tip of an umbrella; the only one of her group who could help her with this is Mamizou, as she is from the outside and probably knows all about cold war era bullshit.
I'd hazard a guess that everyone in this board with modern education is smarter than Byakuren at least.

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>>44069503
Preserve for peak racing, it's lore relevant! Fumo racing!!

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>>44099150
>Byakuren spent most of her long life trapped in Makai, she had no way of gaining any wisdom
I doubt that Shinki would allow her to remain unwise. Besides, she has been studying magic and buddhism for all of her existence, her mind must be top notch at this point.
>and it was not like today where anyone knows all the hijinks the gov bodies can get up to
There are many outsider books in Gensokyo (how they get them is a different matter) detailing about modern goverments. Byakuren could make an educated guess if she's as curious as the rest of mages, as she probably is
>All it takes is the CIA dressing an asian like a peasant to get close to Byakuren and poison her with the tip of an umbrella
We are talking about a magical woman that lives in a world where invisible evil spirits can suddenly snap your neck for giggles.
>I'd hazard a guess that everyone in this board with modern education is smarter than Byakuren at least.
Preposterous. "The devil knows more by old than by devil", as the saying goes.

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>>44069503
How did the Hakurei became gensokyo's guardians?

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>>44096565
>Well yeah, but that's danmaku, that doesn't really count to how strong someone is magically speaking.
it literally does. "spellcard rules" are just rules, they don't automatically give you the ability to shoot danmaku. everything a character shoots comes from her own power and can be lethal if she decides to not respect the rules (and they aren't magically compelled to)

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>>44101379
>I doubt that Shinki would allow her to remain unwise.
Making a lot of assumptions now. I can concede the point that her magic grew during her time at Makai, but Shinki just straight up taking care of her and teaching her various stuff? I find it unlikely.
>Besides, she has been studying magic and buddhism for all of her existence, her mind must be top notch at this point.
On those subjects yes, but that won't do her any good in a modern war setting. Studying all your life does not make you cunning nor wise.
>We are talking about a magical woman that lives in a world where invisible evil spirits can suddenly snap your neck for giggles.
Gensokyo is a whimsical land, yes it CAN happen, but the logic of the series won't allow it. And in canon, a neck snapping Yokai would be an incident, something for Reimu to resolve. In Gensokyo she wouldn't have to worry about dying suddenly and she knows it. Saying otherwise would be, again, making lots of assumptions.
>Preposterous. "The devil knows more by old than by devil", as the saying goes.
If I trap someone for a thousand years in a box they wouldn't be wise, and if I do so while giving them books on math they'll be the best mathematicians in the word but still be unwise. The age=wisdom thing works only with characters who actually lived their long lives.
Also, and this is unrelated, isn't that a saying in spanish? "El diablo sabe mas por viejo que por diablo" I didn't know it was used in english as well. Neat.

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>>44103435
My original answer was a bit bare, I'll admit, but I was saying was that we shouldn't use Danmaku to gauge someone's magical power, or power in general.
Letty's Danmaku is very easy, yet she isn't weak, and such.

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Gensokyo doesn't exist.

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>>44104530
Yeh but what if it did tho?

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>>44104571
What if children weren't able to consent?

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>>44104250
makai isn't a box, it's a vast world that is even more dangerous that ours or gensokyo. just this invalidates everything you said, besides the fact that she also lived in a time before gensokyo where at first she hunted youkai and later helped them while avoiding getting killed by humans

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>>44104250
>but Shinki just straight up taking care of her and teaching her various stuff? I find it unlikely
Its very implied she met her, and had a good relationship with her (Byaukuren is also the only one right now in Gwnsokyo that can go to Makai uninvited), the possibility of them having been mento and pupil are pretty high, and I doubt Shinki would let her apprentice not gain some wisdom.
>but that won't do her any good in a modern war setting
Maybe not.
>Studying all your life does not make you cunning nor wise.
I agree, that is what age does, and she has been living for millenia.
>In Gensokyo she wouldn't have to worry about dying suddenly and she knows it.
As pretty it can be, its a dangerous land. Everyone is pretty much at risk there.
>Saying otherwise would be, again, making lots of assumptions.
This thread calls for assumptions of any type. We both have been assuming for three days now.
>The age=wisdom thing works only with characters who actually lived their long lives.
I repeat my statement from before: she wasn't asleep in Makai, and we also have to account that she was quite active for a long time before getting sealed in Makai.
>Also, and this is unrelated, isn't that a saying in spanish? "El diablo sabe mas por viejo que por diablo" I didn't know it was used in english as well. Neat.
Its a traduction, but I think it summed up my thoughts perfectly, so I used it here.

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ITT: 2hu SMT

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>>44106344
>Its very implied she met her, and had a good relationship with her
This I don't argue, however there is a big difference between the safe assumption that her magical knowledge grew during that time, another is her "life" knowledge.
>I agree, that is what age does, and she has been living for millenia.
You are confusing age with experience. In a war setting a 60 year old man from the first world would have way less wisdom than a 30 year old from a war torn country. Byakuren living a thousand years in Makai is not the same as say Tewi living a thousand years free, experiencing first hand shit like wars and seeing the industrial revolution(and its consequences). Would Byakuren even know about nukes and stuff? Or Cyanide?
>This thread calls for assumptions of any type.
Again, big difference between safe assumptions and others.
>We both have been assuming for three days now.
Jesus, you are right... and how have you been these days anon? I've been fine, ate good.
>she was quite active for a long time before getting sealed in Makai.
She was active during ancient Japan.
>Its a traduction, but I think it summed up my thoughts perfectly, so I used it here.
Me gusta la frase.

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>>44107380
Perhaps a middle ground for me and you would suit this? While you are right that Byakuren won't have any modern warfare knowledge, and that her... "formal" education might be lacking compared to the average anon of /jp/, for the former I can see her catching up quickly, especially with help from other 2hus such as, as you said, Tewi and Mamizou, and for the latter, well, just because she may lack knowledge of certain areas that are easily findable for us, I still bet she's way smarter than an anon here, being a magician requires a lot of intelligence to grasp their sorceries.
>She was active during ancient Japan
Agree, and it adds to her experience, not in a modern way, of course, but humans haven't really changed that much on a general level, I think.
>>Jesus, you are right... and how have you been these days anon? I've been fine, ate good.
Nice, there has been wind that has helped ease the heat a bit during these days. Glad you are safe and sound, my dude.
>*Spoiler*
Thank you, brother.

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>>44107758
Yeah, a compromise would be the best as I don't see us reaching an agreement any time soon.
Byakuren would be disposed of if caught at the beginning while the fog of war and such are at play, but in open war she'd catch on the rules and evade schemes. I'm sure we can still agree her kindness would be her folly, but I digress.
I'd say we move on to another group.
How does Eientei fare? Someone brought up before how they don't seem loyal to Gensokyo and I find that situation interesting.
Would Eirin fight alongside Gensokyo or choose to let her safe haven fall?
And for that matter, how loyal would Tewi be in this situation?
I'm gonna go ahead and say that the nigh sociopath doctor would change sides if she finds they are outmatched.

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>>44107999
>How does Eientei fare?
I don't really know, but...
>Would Eirin fight alongside Gensokyo or choose to let her safe haven fall?
Eirin did betray Gensokyo when the whole lunar invasion happened, but this is Lunar Capital we are talking about. She also especifically made a deal with Tewi for her to protect Eintei from humans, so maybe she won't find joining the outside attractive...
>how loyal would Tewi be in this situation?
Tewi did wanted to sell out her species to humans to avoid dealing with youkai, ans if we add that she's a loose cannon, she will probably join the outsiders on a heartbeat.
>I'm gonna go ahead and say that the nigh sociopath doctor would change sides if she finds they are outmatched.
Absolutely. Kaguya's safety is her first and only concern.

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>>44088594
>there's little the residents of Gensokyo could do against a full blown military assault
lol
literal gods.
and now imagine the massive amount of belief from gaining international recognition of your existence powering them up, as opposed to a single village in bumfuck mountain prefecture.
plagues and disasters galore.

and not just gods, yukari could gap wherever she wished to and assassinate every single general, politician or president that wants to attack gensokyo. imagine barely having deployed and then getting a report that the leader of your country just vanished into thin air, before keine from the safety of home undoes the fact you ever were there.
there are also others of course with the power to annihilate, devastate or disrupt entire countries, but it depends on their motives if they really would.
any case, the outside world loses.

not even going to talk about the mary sue moonbitches swish swosh fan of kill u all bullshit, but you get the point.

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>>44069533
please don't, pregnancy will ruin their bodies

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>>44117741
they're supernatural shapeshifters, Anon
their bodies will bounce back to the same perfection they willed them to be before

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>>44069533
How do you even impregnate a concept?

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>>44119535
they might have started concepts but they're flesh and blood now

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>>44120764
They are the embodiment of metaphysical spirit/faith/fear, while simultaneously being composed of flesh and blood like humanity. They can all, for the most part, conceive if the conditions are met.

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I think some of you guys are underestimating the chaos the outside world would be thrown in if the true nature of Gensokyo became public knowledge. It would redefine how people see reality. It'd take years for modern science to catch up. History books might have to be rewritten to account for supernatural intervention You'd have monsters and other phenomena popping up like weeds because people know they exist now. They'd be propaganda wars between institutions trying to deny beings out of existence and beings making their existence known. Actual cults forming around gods or powerful youkai. The world would be a madhouse for years.

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>>44088493
If they survive the solar blast.

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>>44120947
in other words
Gappy will be happy, and there will be more Gappy

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>>44089226
didnt patchouli get almost killed by eirin because she knows how to cook up hourai elixir?

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>>44089607
The bomb

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>>44104530
Are you sure..... ;)

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>>44120947
>while simultaneously being composed of flesh and blood like humanity
Wrong, they might have physical bodies but they can't bleed

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>>44124094
I can ASSURE you they do in fact.
Not that it's a problem around me, I have a habit of taking care of that particular problem.

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>>44088268
25$ + tip + taxes

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>>44089771
Vietnanon...

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>>44124094
>but they can't breed
Factually incorrect.

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>>44128901
I know it will sound stupid, but considering that the 2hus are never seen going to the bathroom, do they have a hole in the first place?

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>>44094081
>(is it really that easy to cross the border?)
It's probably super easy if you're a Youkai.

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>>44123695
Gappy can be happy, but as long as my wife exists in there I'm finding a way in and officiating the wedding between us with a proper courting and ceremony.

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>>44129584
Who is your wife? Let me guess, Kanako!

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>>44129598
I like her aesthetic but probably couldn't get along with her after being in the same room for more than a few minutes of I met her in real life. But to answer your question, it's Remilia.

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>>44129611
Nah, you sure are a great person Anon! I'm sure you'd have a chance with Remilia, my Waifu is Eirin, but I'm very glad to know yours!

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>>44129632
I will admit, Eirin is a beautiful woman with incredible intelligence and skill. I can understand why you'd be drawn to her. And thank you for that, she's very special to me. Same to you, as well.

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>>44129676
The same goes for you Anon, Remilia is a great woman! I understand why someone like you would be attracted to her.

>>44089961
Just look at this

Here, on /jp/ which is the board that loves 2hus the most, there are a lot of people who want to see them all dead, now just imagine what a soulless government would think.

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>>44129743
Which is why, should Gensokyo exist, it should be the utmost importance to keep the information of such a place being real a secret known only to a select few that can be trusted by the inhabitants. Or, at the very least, reduced to those that wouldn't disturb the status quo or could be taken care of in a reasonable manner should they become too enthusiastic. At least that's my opinion of the matter. Regardless of whether I could meet her or simply know that she was in a place where she could be happy, either outcome would be fine for me, though, of course, If given the chance I would jump at the opportunity to do so. What are your thoughts on the matter?

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>>44129773
I think it is true, if Gensokyo were real and by any chance a huge war doesn't not occur between Gensokyo and the Outside World, people would kill each other or give everything to enter the place when they found out about it, a place only comparable to heaven, full of beautiful and powerful women.

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>>44129773
I don't think hiding it is possible. The power from Gensokyos inhabitants would emanate from it like electromagnetic fields. Some individuals and/or machines would be able to detect it.

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>>44129995
Would you have a theory on how something like that may be picked up? As in, the concept behind how such a thing could be perceived, to what extent, and how such a thing would manifest?

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>>44130038
Yes, but its extremely far beyond anything I could say now.

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I just realized.
Yukari made this thread so she can plan ahead.
Jokes aside, i feel her or Okina have some sort of contingency plan if something like this happens, they may not have infinite power but neither of them is stupid.

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>>44130308
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>44129598
Nah, that's my wife.

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Imagine a land filled with hags

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Autosage or just slow?

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>>44138860
Just slow I hope.

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>>44130308
If Yukari for make this thread, then we should ask her some questions to see what kind of responses the forever-17 Sage would respond with. For instance:

Yukari, if you're watching this thread, are you doing it, or having Ran do it for you?

Also, what would it take for you and the others to allow someone from the Outside to live in Gensokyo as a resident?

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>>44143125
Also, autocorrect is a bitch. Disregard typos and word salad.

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>>44143131
Well, I guess I'll go fuck myself, then.

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Alright but how would /pol/ react if gensokyo was revealed to be a real place?

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>>44146985
/pol/ likes japs so they'd love it

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>>44143131
Only pc users go to gensokyo anon.

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>>44146985
/pol/ alone would invade it and would use it to conquer the rest of the world for lulz.

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>>44147099
Would they win against gensokyo?

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>>44148346
No, they will most likely lose and get raped, which they will enjoy a lot.