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Continuation of >>4389213

Last time: Japan's shipping preferences and Battler/Lucifer

>> No.4392123

Japan has shit taste.

>> No.4392131
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Luci-nee is so moe~

>> No.4392134

>>4392123
why is that?

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>> No.4392158

>>4392134
Because they like brocon Ange and ErikaxBeatoxBattler, which is admittedly hot but not going to happen.

>> No.4392159

>shipping

Is this seriously what you Umineko guys talk about now?

>> No.4392160

> Maybe I'll have the Siesta Sisters wipe the sweat off my brow with their tails~?
Bunny tails confirmed to be canon.

>> No.4392162
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I like Beato x Beato x Beato x Beato x Beato

>> No.4392166

Reposting the TIP fragment about Lucifer:

"The six younger sisters are fine~ But I sure owe Lucifer for EP3~ You gouged me so many times with that stake of yours, grinding grinding, grinding grinding grinding! Aah, just remembering it pisses me off!"
"Ahh, in that caaase, I think this time Battler-sama should gouge into Luci-nee instead."
"I think that's a great idea! Until Battler-sama feels satisfied, I think he should bully her all night loong!"
"Wh...What are you guys talking about?! H-Hey, let go of me!"
"Oh, I know, Lucifer-onee-sama. Your back is your weak spot, right...?"
"Wai... L-Levia?! H-How do you know that?!"
"Everyone knows your weak points! You were the only one who thought we didn't know, weren't you?! You're too careless, onee-sama!"
"Hoh-hoh-hoh-hoh, so her back is her weak spot, is it, hoh-hoh-hoh-hoh!"
"St-Stop! Do you think I'll surrender if you do that?! Do you really think I'll cry and beg for forgiveness?!"
"Ah, shut up, shut up! Know my grudge from that day you tortured me by grinding and gouging into me! Is it around here? Around here? Take that, there, there, there!"
"Ahhiiiiiiiiiiiii!"
"Or is it around here?!"
"Ahaaaaa! Noooooo, please forgive me, Battler-samaaaaaaaa, auaaaaaaa!"
He finally got the chance for revenge he never had in the original story. Battler complacently ground against Lucifer's back...

"How do you feel, Battler-sama? Are you refreshed?"
"Yeah, I feel great... My long-standing grudge has been totally cleared up, and I feel all fresh, like I've finally shed my skin!"

Lucifer's shoulders heaved as she caught her breath. She had collapsed with her clothes in disarray, and it looked very much like the aftermath of something.
...It was a bit obscene.

>> No.4392171

>>4392158

I think the majority like the normal pairings...

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>>4392159
Sometimes you need a break from Jessitrice and Shkanontrice.

>> No.4392174

Battler raped Lucifer in the most recent TIP released by R07. I'm serious, it was revenge for the start of EP3.

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>>4392162
Selfcest is best.

>> No.4392180

>>4392174
A little late there. >>4392166

>> No.4392187

>>4392171
No, they honestly believe that Battler is involved in a love triangle with either Ange or Erika in canon.

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>>4392180
He did say 'reposting' after all.

>> No.4392195

>>4392180
Yeah :<

Still, between that scene and the Erika raep scene in EP6 I get the feeling that BT and R07's drawing skills are the only thing that prevents Umineko from turning into an eroge.

>> No.4392197

>>4392122
Fuck, why couldn't EP6 have been like this.

Battler could have been one of those magnificent assholes who just trolls everyone.

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>>4392174
>it was revenge for the start of EP3.
He seemed to be having fun then though.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPWPygVV0uk

This should become a daily dose.

>> No.4392212

>>4392200
>Buttler
I lol'ed, well played Japan.

>> No.4392216

>>4392187

I don't think it comes close to the huge amounts of crazy BatoBea shippers though.

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>>4392210

>> No.4392220

>>4392210
You will never have Beato mock your delusions first thing in the morning ;_;

>> No.4392223

>>4392200
I think it was a bluff. How fun can being killed over and over be?

Honestly that was the only scene that really felt out of place in Battler/Beato's relationship. I mean, right before that she had torn his Piece self to shreds, but doing it to his meta self right afterwords is a bit cruel.

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LIKE THE FIST OF AN ANGRY GOD

>> No.4392235

>>4392216
The BatBea shippers also believe that Ange and Erika are in love with Battler.

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>>4392210
It is if you install the sound pack it's from.

>> No.4392241

>>4392223

They were feeding him reds though. Plus he's fucking stupid and deserved some punishment.

>> No.4392245

>>4392223
And then there was the whole torturing Rosa, and attempting to cook Maria like a Jew.

EP2 and 3 Beatrice was a cunt.

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>>4392210
My genitalia is confused.

>> No.4392252

>>4392235
I don't think many of them believe that at all.

At the very least, not ange.

>> No.4392253

>>4392245
>attempting to cook Maria

I don't believe for a second that Beatrice was genuine about that. She was just trying to piss off Battler so he'd fight her again.

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>>4392245
That's why we love her.

>> No.4392258

>>4392210
With all that laughing, she can have a heart attack in the first place!

>> No.4392264

>>4392245

She didn't ever attempt it though. She just said she was going to. It was lame when you go back and read.

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>>4392252
Where have YOU been for the last year? They've stopped since EP6, but everyone in Japan used to assume brocon Ange was canon.

>> No.4392271

>>4392265
Someone upload Everything I Know About Umineko I Learned From Pixiv.jpg.

>> No.4392274

>>4392245
>And then there was the whole torturing Rosa, and attempting to cook Maria like a Jew.
She was mainly doing that to get Battler back on his feet. And I doubt she planned on actually cooking Maria, she just taunted Rosa about it.

>> No.4392284

>>4392253
I can personally accept that everything she did in EP2 was to troll Battler, even letting him get torn apart by goats (since he was going to get torn apart anyway by the bomb or whatever anyways).

But killing him in the meta world was just overly excessive. Maybe Beato was still really angry at him for giving up in EP2, but it was still a very disturbing scene watching him being reconstructed from a bunch of bloody goop, even if he was acting very chipper about it.

>> No.4392287

>>4392265
I will always believe Ange wants to sleep with her brother, that is my unwavering will.

>> No.4392294

>>4392264
She did put Krauss through a compressor over and over again though.

>> No.4392301

>>4392284
Her mentality was probably, "As long as I bring him back, everything's fine!" She's kind of fucked up in the head, regardless of her good intentions.

>> No.4392304

>>4392294

Krauss can take it

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>>4392271

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>>4392301
>kind of

She's got the collective of a thousand years of Kinzo rape in her mind. She's beyond fucked up.

>> No.4392315

>>4392284

I think she was pissed off. I miss crazy cunt Beato. She was never that bitter or angry again after ep. 2

>> No.4392318

Even Virgilia and Ronove ship crack pairings.

---
"U-Um... Can Ushiromiya Battler also make a request...?"
"Oh my, what is it?"
"Can this...turn out to be all just a dream...?"
""No.""
"I got carried away, I sincerely apologize. Please save me, Virgilia-sama, Ronove-sama..."
"Oh dear, I suppose we have no choice..."
"Pukuku. If you wish for us to dictate, of course we will undertake that task. However, we will add our own demands to the scenario as well."
"I'll agree to anything...! ...??? Why are you giving me those creepy looks?"

"...RudoBato. GohBato. AmaBato."

"Pukuku! You mustn't forget RonoBato."

"...W...What are you guys talking about...? Why are you ending your sentences with 'bato,' bato? I-Is that some new kind of verbal tic, bato...?"

""*Griiiiiiiiiiiiiin*~!""

>> No.4392319

>>4392301
What's ironic is that her dying was what allowed Battler to discover the truth in the end. Well, that and Dlanor.

>> No.4392329

Why are the TIPS so fucked up and crack filled and the ep. so GRIMDARK

>> No.4392333
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Lucifer? Everyone knows that Battler only wants to eat one Stake's croissant.

>> No.4392336

>>4392307
Ushiromiya Battler
-He's stuck with a crappy name
-He's a breast sommelier who loves tits
-He's thinking of getting a restraining order against Beatrice because of her constant sexual harassment attacks
-His catchphrase is "NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Beatrice
-The Golden Witch
-She loves Battler (in a sexual way)
-She wants to make Battler her waifu by the name of "furniture"
-She matches Battler's preference of blonde and bouncy, she's way too perverted for him


....fuck I don't feel like translating the rest. You get the idea.

>> No.4392343

>>4392333
How cute, Ange is jealous of Battler.

>> No.4392351

>>4392336
>His catchphrase is "NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Fuck, I lol'd.

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>>4392333

She has only one love.

>> No.4392357

>>4392336
>-His catchphrase is "NOOOOOOOOOOO!"
I thought it was "UUUUUOH", though?

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>>4392352
Only OTP that matters, all others be damned.

>> No.4392366

>>4392357
He's says "rameeeeeee" with is basically "nooooo" when he's getting raped in most fanart.

>> No.4392373

>>4392336
NEVERMIND, JAPAN

YOU ARE A PRETTY COOL GUY

>> No.4392378

>>4392329
Obviously the TIP was lighthearted to contrast the episode. I wish he'd write more fluffy stuff.

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Why is Lucifer so perfect?

>> No.4392387

>>4392379
Because you're confusing her with Belph

>> No.4392391

>>4392379
I like that they've been fazed out almost completely.

Perhaps if he didn't create half a dozen new characters every episode, he could give everyone some screen time.

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>>4392379
because she's moe.

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>>4392379
Because she's canonically the weakest of the stakes and incompetent, therefore the perfect waifu for the incompetent Battler.

Not really but the stakes are fun characters.

>> No.4392399

/a/ here, let's get this awesome umineko shipping thread going! i knew you guys like umineko!! F YEAH long live umineko threads!!

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>>4392396
Also, she's actually a masochist.

>> No.4392411

Battler/Beato > Battler/Lambda > Battler/Lucifer > Battler/Maria > Battler/Erika > Battler/Ange

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>>4392406
Yes, that's delicious.

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>> No.4392437

>>4392418

best husbando

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>>4392411
>Battler/Lambda

I thought I was the only one who liked it! Brofist!

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>>4392411
BattlerxNappi is a good pairing too.

>> No.4392454

>>4392406
Lucifer looks totally rapeable there.

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>> No.4392463

>>4392452
This could never happen. Natsuhi is pure and faithful.

>> No.4392465

>>4392452

That's the most offensive pairing to me.

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>> No.4392474

>>4392465
No is not!

>> No.4392480

>>4392463
Faithful to Battler

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>>4392463
Yes, she is.

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>>4392310
What? Kinzo was kind and gentle to her, don't spread lies.

>> No.4392504

>>4392480

NO. Don't talk about Natsuhi like that.

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Don't mind me, just dumping some burger and her bodyguard.

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>>4392448
I loved their interaction in EP5 and EP6. I see them more as bros most of the time, but I'm cool with the pairing, too.

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>> No.4392520

>>4392448
It may not be such a crack pairing, considering Lambda is only obsessed with Bern because she defeated her certainty.

If Battler ends up being more interesting than Bern, perhaps it's possible.

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>>4392509
Um, evidence please?
EP5 mostly just showed me how pissed off Battler was. Not sure about Ep6, but overall didn't seem like they were close to "bros"

>> No.4392540

>>4392520
I don't know, Bern and Lambda seem pretty close. I mean, Bern promised to give Lambda a bath in her shit. That's pretty damn close.

>> No.4392541

>>4392463
She's also a baby killer, so maybe there's some leg room with that truth.

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>> No.4392553

>>4392535
She spent most of EP6 giving him advice when she was supposed to be neutral. They talked about poker metaphors and shit and she told him that he'd better win for Beatrice's sake.

>> No.4392555

>>4392520
> Lambda is only obsessed with Bern because she defeated her certainty.
That's not the only reason, though. She states in EP6 that another reason she's interested in Bern is because of the similarity of their origins.

>> No.4392558

>>4392520

I think Lambda has greater feelings for Bern than just that. It's not something so easily replaced.

>> No.4392568

>>4392558
And, hell, Bern even admits to feeling lonely without Lambda around in the Episode 6 hidden tea party.

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>>4392520
Lambda loves Bern, no doubt about it. It's not really just a matter of her being "interesting," as it is a matter of Lambda and Bern considering each other "kindred spirits."

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>> No.4392585

>>4392572
and then he shot her

>> No.4392591

>>4392572
I almost hope Amakusa ends up being Battler, because it would be kind of touching.

>> No.4392593

>>4392572

You should have ate a parfait with Eva you whore

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>>4392585
That's a lie.

>> No.4392601

>>4392591
Battler shot Ange.

Yep, that's touching.

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>> No.4392610

>>4392591

It would fit since he's the worst brother ever.

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>> No.4392623

>>4392601
Wha? I thought she lived? What with ep 6 and all.

Anyway let's not go further into that... i'll wait to read it.

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>> No.4392639

>>4392623
Ange's EP6 plotline happens before she goes to Rokkenjima.

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>> No.4392651

>>4392639
Seriously? And in EP4, she just conveniently made no foreshadowing to meeting a creepy old woman with horns, or any of that shit?

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This will be Umineko Episode 7.

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>>4392623
EP4 and EP6 1998 never happened, Ange actually died when she lept from the skyscraper.

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>>4392679
more like this will be EP 7

I can dream

>> No.4392761

>>4392651
The thing in EP6 happened after the events in EP4. Even though it took place before some of them. Ange was never able to meet Hachijou originally.

>> No.4392777

>>4392572
I just realized that Amakusa looks a bit like Lag Seeing, from Letter Bee.

>> No.4392785

>>4392651
Different fragment.

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In regards to the stuff with Bern and Lambda in EP6, here's one good example of Lambda's general role in the episode. This conversation happens when Battler is threatening to kick Bern out of the kakera and she's throwing a hissyfit and saying that she'll kill Erika if she has to leave.


"...I'd like to see your fight through to the very end, okay? ...But Battler's saying he'll banish me. Hey, what are you going to do, Lambda?!"

"Now, now. Bern, I know you've been irritated ever since the last game, but calm down. ...Battler, don't provoke Bern too much. Sometimes she just can't control her own emotions."

"Shut up... Who can't control their emotions...?!"

Bernkastel, who had once never shown any kind of facial expression, was now showing off an ugly face twisted with displeasure.

When Lambdadelta teased her about that, Bernkastel clicked her tongue and turned away.

Perhaps it was like controlling poison or something. ...It seemed as thought Lambdadelta was the only one who held Bernkastel's reins.

"...Erika, you want to make Bern pleased again by fighting Battler and redeeming your honor, right?"

"Y...Yes..."

"Battler, you want to prove that you reached the truth by perfectly finishing the 'final game,' right?"

"...That's right. This is a fight between me and Erika. It's not just a hindrance for me. I won't permit hindering Erika, either."

"...B...Battler..."

"If you two still have the will to fight, then that should be respected. ...Leave Bern to me. When she gets in a sour mood, I'm the only one in the world who can calm her down."

>> No.4392802

>>4392520
At first, Battler had been laidback, believing he could mold the story however he wanted, but he soon realized that was a naïve way of thinking.
"Geez... This is a more of a pain than I expected."
"Ohohoho! Isn't it, isn't it? People who don't know the truth think you can slap together a story however you want, but it's a real feat! Putting together a scenario for a whole episode while still making sure everything matches up with the rules of Beato's game board is really hard!"
Lambdadelta, who had been in charge during the previous game in EP5, swaggered around in delight that someone finally understood her hardships.

"...At any rate, there's a whole lot of characters. Trying to give them all some kind of part while still moving the story forward is pretty tough, like I'm a director or a producer or something..."
"Well, you've got to partition the screentime. After all, by now we've got more characters than a single school class. If you try to give everyone a big role, it'll just turn into a huuuge mess."

Just the sheer number of characters made writing the story difficult.
With Battler and Beato as the axis of the story, if there were just 1 to 2 other characters, it would make things much simpler, but...
"You say that, but what should I do? There are dozens of characters, you know?"
"You're a real dummy, you know? Trying using your head a little like Lambdadelta-chan-sama here, your he--a--d-- ...hey, ouch! I didn't say to hit me on the head, stupid!"
"Shut up. My head's hurting just trying to think over here. Stop chirping and clamoring around...! If you don't quiet down, EP6 is never gonna get started! Just come out and tell me if you know of a good strategy."
"Geez, you can't fight with a Game Master...! But I've got nothing left to tell you. You already know the answer, don't you?"
"Huh? Hey, wait! Don't escape in a puff of smoke! ...damn, she ran off."

>> No.4392826

>>4392789
Oh, you've read EP6? What *really* happens to Erika after she loses? I'm just wondering how likely it will be that she'll return at all in later Episodes. To me it seems fairly unlikely considering how much he bashed her in that C77 TIP, but on the other hand that was just a TIP...

>> No.4392828

>>4392789
...Of course, right after Battler leaves that scene, it's revealed that all three of them had planned their little skit ahead of time, to trick Battler into giving Erika the advantage that he did. Or am I thinking of a different part?

>> No.4392846

>>4392828
No, it is that scene. But I'm pretty sure the Bern and Lambda stuff was legit, considering some of the stuff Lambda says later on, and especially because Bern mutters to herself, "It wasn't actually an act..." But Erika doesn't hear that.

>> No.4392852

Bern and Lambda are a PURE couple.

>> No.4392855

>>4392846
> and especially because Bern mutters to herself, "It wasn't actually an act..."
Yeah, that would cement it as legit.

>> No.4392856

>>4392826
Nothing. She gets shot in the chest and Dlanor starts screaming for medical attention, but they can't save her without Bern's approval. But by this time, Bern has been abducted by Hanyuu. Erika makes her last stand against Beato and Battler, gets shot again, and dies.

>> No.4392875

>>4392852
Pure evil, admittedly, but still nice.

>> No.4392876

>>4392856
She just "dies"? That's kind of a strange concept in the meta world. Still, poor Dlanor.

>> No.4392885

>>4392876
Well, it's not so much "dying" as it is "complete erasure from the meta world". If you click "Execute" in the post-Episode Character TIPS for the Meta characters, there's no description, and not even a character sprite.

>> No.4392899

>>4392885
Sounds like she's getting the Ange treatment, we'll probably see her in some kakera, doing pointless shit that slightly gleans on what the truth is.

>> No.4392907

>>4392885
Huh, I guess nobody dies in Umineko except Erika. Still, I could see ANGE or MARIA bringing her back for the finale or something, but I doubt she'll play any serious role in the story.

>> No.4392911

>>4392899
> we'll probably see her in some kakera, doing pointless shit that slightly gleans on what the truth is.
More like "we'll probably see her in that worst-possible-kakera that Bernkastel mentioned".

>> No.4392958

>>4392911
Doubtful. Bernkastel never did anything to Erika in the end. She wasn't even around when she died, much to Erika's relief.

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