SWR2 Netplay Thread

[Anonymous No.]

Old one is dead

[Anonymous No.]

Hosts!

[Anonymous No.]

192.168.1.126:10800 Canada

[Anonymous No.]

>>4366168
I don't think you know what IP address is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4366168
not sure if trolling, but i'll help out anyways.

that's your lan ip. it can only be accessed by devices connected to your router. think of it as a tiny secluded internet.

what you want to broadcast is your wan ip, which is an ip that can actually be routed and connected to remotely. check myipaddress.com to find that.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's play.

[Anonymous No.]

69.244.250.103:10800
Taking a break from reading VNs all night tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4366334
GGs dude, sorry for playing so few games, I had less time than I expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4366367
Good games!

[Anonymous No.]

Any EU host around?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4366650
Bump for the same question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4366650
>>4366844
Only for you guys


188.36.52.248:10800

[Anonymous No.]

someone host?

>>4366858 it's full

[Anonymous No.]

>>4366858
If you give me 5 minutes I'll create a deck for Alice and will host again, Akagi

[Anonymous No.]

>>4367067
Alright!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4367078
...aaaaaaaaand, here we go

[Anonymous No.]

>>4367078
That's enough for today, I picked random to change color with my Alice. It's pretty fun to play with her, maybe I'll throw Purplechouly to the Recycle Bin... or maybe not. Her bubbles are making me laugh too often. Thank you for joining

[Anonymous No.]

>>4367409

Well, good games dude, thank you for hosting. Sorry for trying so hard with Marisa, I just started playing with her since yesterday. Still have a lot of trouble connecting 66A with Busky Sweeper for the acrobatic combo, which lead to quite a lot of trouble for me. See you around, it was really nice to play without any delay at all!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4367501
>See you around, it was really nice to play without any delay at all!

...was I laggy before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4367501
The reason why you posted your reply so late was because you were searching for a Marisa x Alice picture, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4367531
No, don't worry, it's just that the people I played with recently had some delay, so it felt good to play without.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4367624
Hahaha, you are smart, that's exactly the reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4367663
Finding EU players can be troublesome sometimes, even when I am the one who is hosting

[Anonymous No.]

74.88.233.16:10800
East Coast Lowkuu.

[Anonymous No.]

i see no one requesting west host

[Seacats No.]

71.175.58.135:10800
EC Hosting
Rabbit Tier

[0rion No.]

76.171.238.148:10801
U.S. West
Nitori tier

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Really, why don't people on /jp/ take some small time to learn some bnbs?
I mean, they are pretty easy to learn and help a lot, I'm tired of seeing people doing stupid combos that don't even end in anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368155
gg rabbit stew game was fun uh only thing was your 5b5c stringing was kinda predictable where i can graze in but we then took it to the air. I would just keep using J2A to get above and follow up with 2B.
Also for wake up plant something like her 623 to give you an edge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368397
Where can I get the patch for these extra characters? I really like the one with the mickey mouse ears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368706
because we dont watch nico vids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368706
>why don't people on /jp/ take some small time to learn some bnbs?
Because they want to have fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368722
you poor soul you been trolled its ok we also want to believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368722

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368730
Fun is subjective, people can have fun knowing how to combo, it's not like being able to do a bnb is something hardcore or elitist

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368754
and the point is people can have fun without comboing either. Its just personally i rather not think of what im suppose to do than just doing. I press buttons and hope by pressing enough i can press that one button that makes everything look pretty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368754
That's right, everyone has his own way to find the fun, so stop complaining about people who don't use the BnBs. If you don't like to play with someone like that, no one is forcing you to stay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368817
I'm not really playing anyone here, but I tought that people here actually wanted to get better, I didn't know you were so stuck up
I'm sorry I brought this up, kthxbye

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368706
Akin to yelling at little leaguers to stop dropping balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368854
You seem offended to know low skill levels in a game exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368854
3/10 go back to where you came from and pretend you're good at this game.

99.244.237.85:10800 EC

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368854
>kthxbye
Back to wherever you came from, please.

[Anonymous No.]

guys stop the fighting all we want to do is have fun right?

[Anonymous No.]

requesting west hoster cant bnb tier

[Resident51 !!uExKsaK1qin No.]

USEast
24.47.61.27:10800

Haven't played in a while. Man I feel rusty...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4366140
Why must you stupid guys constantly spam and attack www . anon
talk . com for? Please stop. We don't want any chanturds there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368881
>stop the fighting
>SWR2 Netplay Thread
Dohoho!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368869
GGs
Still scared shitless of Iku :V

[Anonymous No.]

>>4368869
GGs, Kusoge?
I like watching you try to land 66C whenever you get that overhead sun card. Then I cry because it hits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4369232
Yeah honestly I wish I was never told that comboed because the second I have it I spam 66C all day and get raped for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4369245
It's like you're really a.a.!

[Seacats No.]

71.175.58.135:10800
EC Host
Rabbits everywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>4369265
I don't spam 66C that much!

[Anonymous No.]

Any hosting? I need to practice. ;_;

[Guy No.]

>>4369267
Good games, Seacats. Was just checking on your Reisen; it seems you're like me and need to work on your timing and spacing with her more than anything else.

Hostan:

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Just woke up, too tired to write anything clever.

[Seacats No.]

>>4369432
GGs
yeah as much as I love her disappearing stuff I still need to figure out how much distance it actually has.
>>4369267 Rehosting

[Guy No.]

>>4369432
I'm all alone, there's no one here beside me~

[Resident51 !!uExKsaK1qin No.]

Awesome games Akagi. That was amazingly fun. Not sure what happened though at the end, just froze us and dumped us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4369451
Good games, Seacats. For some reason I really like to camp out in the corner. Sorry to cut our games short, but I have to eat dinner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4369689
Sudden disconnect, I don't know what happened.

Good games otherwise, it was pretty fun, yeah!

[Seacats No.]

>>4369694
Yeah GGs
>>4369267
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4369662
Well, I discovered why all my games lag--because my Internet is only twice as fast as 56K. This is supposed to be DSL? What a joke!

Anyway, I think I'll hold off playing anyone until much later--around 2 a.m. it seems to get faster for some reason.

[Guy No.]

>>4369432
Good games, 0rion. While effective, you should find more ways of closing the distancing and pressuring than just 3A -> 2A -> 2C. Once that gets predictable you seem to lose quite a bit of momentum.

[0rion No.]

>>4369662

GGs as always Guy. Still have no clue how to deal with endless knife works. Your China defense is pretty solid; I have an incredibly hard time trying to figure out how to attack you unless you get really aggressive and leave openings.

[0rion No.]

>>4369914

Agreed, I just don't really know what else to do, especially against your Meiling, since I seem to always lose the aerial melee exchanges, which I've noticed I tend to rely on quite a bit with Remi. I mostly just ended up sitting back trying to wait for you to come in, since I couldn't figure out any other way to create opportunities for attack.

[Guy No.]

>>4369941
I wish I could help, but my Remi sucks. The only thing I can think of is the old how-to-defeat-me standby: let me get aggressive then punish my screw-ups.

>>4369926
>China

[Anonymous No.]

>>4369941
you can chain 3A into a dial-a and 2A into 5C hj9 j.5C j.66 j.8A

[Anonymous No.]

>>4369985
wat
That 3A part made no sense, forget it, just read the 2A part

[0rion No.]

>>4369985

I can't get that to work since the 1.10 patch. Is it even still possible?

[Guy No.]

>>4369926
Also, I do believe that is the first time I've ever been complimented on my defense. Ever.

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

[Seacats No.]

>>4369704
GGs Akagi
sorry I gotta leave but I gotta eat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4369704
Good games Seacats!

[0rion No.]

>>4369985
>>4370057

OK, after messing around in practice I discovered you can get the same result with 2A 2C hj8 5C 66D 8A.

Still can't get the 2A 5C jh9 5C 66D 8A version to work though; ever since the patch the 8A whiffs for me. Maybe I'm not just cool enough.

In any case, my real problem isn't my BnB combos with Remi, it's trying to close the distance. Guy used his 5C, j5C, or charge 5C, and then liberal application of kung fu kicks to stop any attempts I made to get into melee range. Coincidentally China's 5C and 6C eat Remi's danmaku, so I at point I wasn't sure how to proceed.

/treeagraph

[Anonymous No.]

>>4370166
I know how it feels, but you can try to make him approach you, like with the spears alt 214 or 5[C]

I wouldn't know anyways, I've never played a good chi-err... meiling and I can't play guy either

Good luck

[Anonymous No.]

bumping thread before it crosses over the gensokyo border

[Anonymous No.]

Lovely bump of love.

[Anonymous No.]

requesting west host since bumps were gapped.

[0rion No.]

WC host here
76.171.238.148:10801

[Guy No.]

Hostan:

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
I'm too predictable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4370166

I speak from 1.03 experience with her since I've dropped Remi for Alice and Meiling (and recently Sakuya), but try these and see if it helps with closing the distance and winning out in melee encounters:

When trying to close with Meiling, realize that Servant Fliers (default 214BC) are the best goddamn closing tools you will ever have. Spawn some, then time your approach to coincide with the bullets. As far as I know, Meiling's only decent graze attack is Spiral Light Step (Default 214BC), and that is usually swapped out for Descending Flower Slam. If you approach Meiling, maintaining your guard in case she tries a graze attack or a quick 623C, with your bat bullets right behind you, it will force Meiling to either graze (In which case she should eat some of your melee without issue), graze attack (Which is limited to her default 214BC and DFS 214C version, which is easy to dodge), or throw up a C shield, in which case your response should be default 236BC to graze through it and smash Meiling in the face

Get level 1 Demon Lord Cradle (Default 623BC) for the melee invincibility. It will let you win out on almost any melee encounter and reset the fight by knocking Meiling down

[Anonymous No.]

>>4371630

GOD I HATE FORGETTING TO SAGE WHEN I'M NOT ACTUALLY ACTIVELY NETPLAYING, FUCK

Anyway..

Remember your B bullets. Though Meiling can easily stop them with her C shield from a distance, you'd be surprised how you can mess with someone's mind when tossing them out there when you're just out of melee range. You can't really get a combo out of them, but it will give you some relatively decent mid range pressure, because her C bullets are just a hair too slow to stop them if you're close enough. Don't rely on them though, just keep them in the back of your mind as an option

If for some insane reason you insist on using an alternate 214BC skill rather than Servant Fliers, try to use your C bullets in a similar way. Be warned that it is not nearly as effective because your bullets will be in front of you, which gives Meiling time to use a C shield, meaning your only real option is to use Demon Lord Walk (default 236BC) as you desperately try to catch up to your bullets. This is clearly inferior to the three options presented to you with Servant Fliers (Melee attack on graze, dodge her anti graze attacks and strike her while she recovers, or land a 236BC as she tries to C shield)

Good luck!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4371637
Why use demon lord walk if you can approach with hj9 and j.66?
servants is the only remilia that I never had a card for in my deck, and I never had any problems approaching

[Guy No.]

>>4371610
Disconnect? Good games, 0rion. I told you my Remi was bad!

>>4371626
Rehostan.

[0rion No.]

>>4371610

Rehosting, sorry controller came unplugged.

[0rion No.]

>>4371893

>I told you my Remi was bad!
>bad
>beats me anyway
>I'm worse than bad

;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4371856

You can, but I personally wouldn't because I'd be worried about getting caught in the C shield behind me because I suck and sometimes attack when in the middle of a boolet, ruining everything. Pic related, my reaction when that happens ;_;

Your mileage may vary, of course

[Anonymous No.]

174.0.51.137:10800
Hostan Canadia

[博麗 霊夢 !1rAyMooPLc No.]

>>4371990
I think we got desynced there in that first match.

[Guy No.]

>>4371610
Good games, 0rion.

[0rion No.]

GGs Guy. Thanks for the Remi pointers. I'll go over the replays later and see if there's anything useful I can get into my thick cranium.

[Guy No.]

>>4372076
I was trying to show you more stuff, but I really suck at setting stuff up with Remi; I'm pretty horrible at being properly mobile with her. If you manage to get someone in the corner though, try staggering melee a bit then throwing out some 5C hjc j.2C to eat more orb.

[Anonymous No.]

76.29.15.231:07500
US Midwest

[0rion No.]

>>4372106

I always try to do that and fail the input. You have no idea how much I raged those few times I managed to get you into the corner and then just horribly screwed up my blockstring and got punched in the face for my troubles.

[Anonymous No.]

any more hosters for tonight?

[Guy No.]

>>4372186
Execution errors make me rage more than almost anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

how do you play this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372230
66C repeatedly until you win

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372255
thats no good he'll probably use reimu as default, so you kinda fucked him up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372272
5C repeatedly until he wins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372272
He's a beginner, so he'd probably use Suika.

[博麗 霊夢 !1rAyMooPLc No.]

>>4371990
GGs but damn horrible Tenshi BnB execution along with getting input errors like crazy, bad times man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4371990
Gahaha! Good games GP! What was up with the first round? I totally thought I was playing a beginner. I had to rethink that position very quickly, after noticing you back dashing the C4. That is a pretty brutal Yuyuko you have, I was hoping for a few more matches to see if I really had her figured out or if it was just the deck you chose. Also, I'm suprised none of the Suika throws connected. Thanks for the games!

[Anonymous No.]

I played SWR1 some time ago, when did this second part come out?

[博麗 霊夢 !1rAyMooPLc No.]

>>4372400
Alright, I'll keep that in mind the next time we play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372414
Back in September I think.

[Anonymous No.]

74.160.128.145:10800
US East

[Guy No.]

>>4372400
I kept waiting for him to land one, but you were jumping out that shit like you were fighting Zangief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372176
GGs
Can't beat Duckator still :V

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372176
Good games. You've improved since yesterday, you don't mash nearly as much as you did before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372543
Oh shit, spectators. I have an inkling that Suika Grab is always jump evadable, but I need someone to test it with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372612
If you are talking the hyperbomb super then yes it is jump evadeable on super flash, the second you see it just hold up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372509
Good games Saje.

Patchouli always scared me, but even moreso when playing Meirin's side. That's gotta be one of her worst matchups, so I feel relieved to have won any at all.

My Marisa seems to be really lucky at living on the edge. I'm pretty sure that's not what Magister meant when he claimed I had one of the better non-Japanese Marisas.

Darn that Typhoon in the first round of the last game, made my Sanae look bad.

[Saje No.]

>>4372509
GGs, Komachisa. Would've liked to have put on a better show, but between your decent grazes and some of your character's staggered melee (oddly that was better with your Marisa/Komachi than with your China imo), I couldn't seem to get much of an offense going most of the time. That one Komachi vs. Iku match where I spent half of it blocking was actually the reason I had to go. Got a phone call from someone who should be calling back soon and was playing one-handed. The connection was very iffy considering the fact that I'm on the East coast as well. Pleasure fighting you for the first time, hope to show you something better next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4372900
>Got a phone call from someone who should be calling back soon and was playing one-handed.
Dang it! I knew my Komachi wasn't that good, even if she's supposed to be my main.

>oddly that was better with your Marisa/Komachi than with your China imo
I guess that's right. I need to pay more attention to what Guy does when he beats me up. I noticed that you were constantly dashing through the gap after my 5AAA, but even when I tried mixing things up a bit, e.g. 5AA (projectile) you still ran through. At least the 623 Scarlet Cannons caught you a few times for being too keen on trying to escape.

>The connection was very iffy
It's all on my side, but today was probably the least laggy set of games I've had. Earlier my Internet speeds were around 100kbps (which seems to be the norm), and just before we played it was hovering around 300kbps. If we play again chances are high it'll be a lot worse than this time.

>Pleasure fighting you for the first time
Well yes, except it's not actually the first time. I'm someone's alternate name.

[Guy No.]

>>4373045
>Guy's Meiling

1.) Mash 2A
2.) ???
3.) Win matches!

I wish my art and writing looked as good as yours.

[Saje No.]

>>4373045
>I noticed that you were constantly dashing through the gap after my 5AAA
Aside from completely losing pressure, it didn't hurt you as bad as it hurts most people. You always had the time to HJC your bullets before I could punish. It was terribly annoying. I'd've gone for HJ9 j.5A instead since by then I knew you'd HJC (assuming you didn't melee special me), but I knew I'd do it too slowly and eat the bullets instead and D9 always results in me flying instead. Also, damn China 5C oki versus Patchy wake-up Spring Wind! I'm supposed to be invulnerable and grazing and unbeatable! Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeap! ;_;

>I'm someone's alternate name.
Now you've piqued my curiosity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4373099
I don't know, when you were blowing away Yggdrasiface yesterday, it certainly looked like more than just 2AA... 3A/6A 6B/5C/6C, etc. Everything happens so fast that I can't register what's going on. Evidently, I'm not mashing 2A hard enough!

I got my handwriting to look neat by observing and copying girls' handwriting.

[Anonymous No.]

67.163.49.53:06112
US Central
Can't-get-past-Satori-on-SA-on-Lunatic-mode-why-does-Border-of-Wave-and-Particle-last-so-long-tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>4373350
Disco, you're not finishing your Okuu combos until you pick up Alt 236. 5AA 6A 2B 623B HJC8 j.8A works until you manage to get the card you want.

[Anonymous No.]

Good games noname. I have to go though.

[Anonymous No.]

Good games, Disco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4373732

inb4 "ballin everyday niggas"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4373568
This only works point blank range.
Also remove the 2B.
Personally, I still like lasers because it'll work almost everywhere outside of corner and in all situations.
Plus once you get alt 22 or alt 236 you can just combo into those after it.

[Anonymous No.]

Today I learned that you can lose Fantasy Heaven if you deal the last hit just as fifteen seconds pass since you activated it (especially if you're jumping).
Felt bad, man.

[Anonymous No.]

Today I learned that Uberloli can jump. I've always tried to hammer them while they were trying to escape. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>watching Japanese replays
>Komachi summoning catfish while on the ground then place-changing with Patchy at the last second.

Oh God I laughed so hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4374376
Thanks, now I have to make a Catfish deck for Komachi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4374376

Good lord what? I need to see this
Are you just talking about nicovideo vids or is there actually some website to download Japanese replays from?

[Guy No.]

>>4374889
I don't know of a site to download replays from, but here's the video link: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9680131.. It's about 3.5 minutes in, I found it while browsing nico for lunatic replays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4374992

Hahaha, oh wow. Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

SAKUYA TIPS AND STRATEGY!

<fill this space out>

[Guy No.]

>>4375281
1.) Mash B
2.) ???
3.) Win

I'm half kidding. I'm just too tired to write anything else at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4375281

Still learning to play with her, but here are some of the things I've learned

Use B bullets whenever possible. C bullets suck and should be used sparingly, if at all

Magic Star Sword (default 236BC) and Bounce No-Bounce (default 214BC) are some of your best moves and should not be changed out unless you really, really like the idea of experimenting. Both of Sakuya's alt 236BCs suck, and the only good alt 214BC is Square Ricochet, which is best described as Bounce No-Bounce except that it doesn't turn into a weather crystal if you get hit

In fact, you know what? Almost all of Sakuya's alt skill cards suck. The only ones that seem at all useful are Perfect Maid, Propelling Silver (for when Bounce No-Bounce just isn't enough oki), Square Ricochet, and Dancing Star Sword

On the other hand, almost all of Sakuya's spellcards are pretty goddamn awesome. Experiment with them to see which ones you like the most

Level 4 Dancing Star Sword with level 4 Control Rod is JESUS FUCK LOOK HOW MUCH DAMAGE I'M DOING

By the way, does anyone know how Vanishing Everything is affected past level 1? I know that at level 1, it becomes usable midair, but I seriously can't tell the difference between it at level 1 and it at level 4. I don't seem to have any more invincibility frames, it looks like I recover just as slowly.. am I just missing something?

[Anonymous No.]

Hey

[Anonymous No.]

>>4375550
Right now the only spell card I use is the 4-card red slashing one. It's just too easy to land a 66B and hit it.

Skills, I usually use defaults, but I've been messing with her timed 236 knives lately. They seem pretty shit so far, but I saw some RLY GUD JAPANESE PLAYERZ using them in replays, so I figured they had to be good, because yeah.

Any tips for system cards?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone hosting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4375834
You should take a look at her other spellcards then. Red slashy and 3card timestop are great for damage off random hits, blue slashy is a reversal, 2card barrage is good for crushes, timeslow is a universal pressure tool and the homing 2card is great on wakeup.

I use her 236 default way too much to switch it out but the others are not bad if used well.

The timestop system card was nerfed to hell. It was like a 100% oki before and now it's too short to dash anywhere.
You can't go wrong with guard counter and bomb system cards though.

[Anonymous No.]

In case you missed it: >>4375347

Concentrated awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

Where the fuck are all the hosts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4376015
It's V day, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4376021
And?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4376024
They left /jp/ because /jp/ is turning into a board that celebrate V day.

[Anonymous No.]

69.244.250.103:10800 EC
Please rape my face tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4376027
You had me scared for a second there, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

Any host?

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>4376033
GGs. Sorry for leaving early, but I have to do something real quick.
Any tips? ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4376265
ggs.
You tried to dash under me a lot and fell for a lot of traps because of this (or the lag).
Sometimes it's better to block and see what's coming at you.
You also teched away from the corner every single time.

[Guy No.]

>>4375550
I like the timed knives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4375950
I never really understood what a reversal is. I know it's something that you use while being attacked or something, but kind of fuzzy about how to use them effectively...

I'll give the guard break card a shot. Kind of prefer the 'horse shoe looking pink thingy that you use while blocking' in replace of bombs, unless I'm missing something about bombs :z

[Guy No.]

>>4376441
Sakuya doesn't really need Yukari's Folding Fan to crush orbs in the corner, and I don't see you landing it much midscreen. I suppose it'd be something to try out, though.

You're pretty much right about Reversals. They're an attack that typically give you some sort of invulnerability frames so you can punish someone else for doing a slower attack against you (classic example being some Ken player using a Shoryuken against some poor dumb bastard who did an unsafe jump-in for whatever reason). As for spellcards that can be used as reversals, there are three main ways to use them:

1.) on reaction against an attack
2.) predicting an attack or jump in/jump away/dash in/or even border escapes in some cases
3.) as a combo finisher

The second option is quite hard to do, but can really be devastating to your opponent, the third one actually isn't that bad if you're fairly close to defeating your opponent.

[Guy No.]

>>4376441
Oh, Iku's system card. That's pretty effective (particularly in Diamond Dust weather as it pretty much guarantees knockdown against your opponent), but sometimes you'll still take hits from your opponent despite activating it. The bomb card doesn't have that problem, and if your opponent has a mere sliver of life left, you can finish him off after you bomb him sometimes (attack damage is really low after you land a bomb, though).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4376441
A reversal is a move with invinciblility on startup. So if you see the opponent trying to hit you, use it and the attack will miss and your reversal will hit.

The difference of bombs to Iku system is that you do not have to block first, so you can bomb away dashing opponents or avoid crossups without blocking first. It should be said that you can only use the latter on rightblock, so you could get crushed while trying to get it in. But it's also much harder to bait than a bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4376483
I have a bit of trouble crushing peoples orbs in the corner. Not really good at blockstrings, I usually just spam 5aaa 2b hjc9 j2a j2b + repeat since it's pretty easy to do, but anyone with a brain can graze out of it. What do you do for strings? :3

[Guy No.]

>>4376517
What you listed isn't all that bad, really. The problem is that when you use it too much it gets predictable. Your strings should really vary with how long you've been playing your opponent. At first, you should start out with something standard, like f.5A 6A 5B hjc8 j.2B 3D j.5A 5AAA 2B hjc8 j.2B etc

If you feel like the opponent is getting a sense of when to graze, mix it up a little. f.5A 6A stagger 6A 5B hjc8 j.2A j.2B 66 j.2A j.2B 66 j.5A 5AAA 2B

If you follow the above format, and occasionally interrupt yourself to do stuff such as, say, staggering a 3A after the 5B or staggering a f.5A after the 6A to reset pressure and get extra orb damage if he's blocking low, you'll find that your opponent is either panicking and jumping the gun to get out of the corner early (which means you should start doing more jump-out predictions and more stagger, with less knives), or he's sitting tight and too scared to move out.

If he's sitting tight, that's when you pretty much get guaranteed orb crushes. f.5A 6A 5B hjc9 j.5A j.2A (j.2A will sometimes catch people wanting to graze after the j.5A) j.2B 66 j.5A j.2A j.2B 66 j.5A land reset to either f.5A or 5AAA stagger f.5A stagger f.5A 5B hjc8 j.2B 66 j.2A j.2B 3D punish on crush or reset pressure with 5AAA.

That's pretty much the stuff that works with me, at least. A lot of the game is getting into your opponent's head and screwing with him; you want to force him to make mistakes and get him to where you want him, rather than throwing yourself out of position trying to do something that looks cool; anonymous is a player who is an excellent example at doing this.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, thanks a ton for all the help Guy and you other anons. Much appreciated. That blockstring stuff sounds very... difficult. My problem is that I probably panic more than my opponent when I actually get somebody in the corner, I always forget to stagger and mix it up. I guess that comes with practice though eh?

Hitting the hay here, thanks again

[Anonymous No.]

Bump for EU host.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4377028
Not again

[Anonymous No.]

"Scarlet Weather Rhapsody 2" is Unthinkable Natural Law?

May as well refer Zelda Majora's Mask to as Zelda Ocarina of Time 2. Or Oblivion as Morrowind 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4377114
I call it Hisoutensoku, Soku, or 12.3, personally. But hey, it doesn't really matter what people call it as long as we get hosts in the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4375550
>C bullets suck and should be used sparingly, if at all
I'm going to have to disagree with you. j.5C is pretty much the cornerstone of my approach game.

Personally I don't find her spellcards all that useful besides Time Sign "Private Square", however there is that one which combos off 66B which Guy uses--I don't know what that is, I think it's new to v1.10.

Nothing else to add since Guy's advice is fairly sound and his blockstrings are more effective than mine. I did write some Sakuya blockstring advice in a previous Netplay thread but I'm not going to bother searching for it on the archive.

[Seacats No.]

71.175.58.135:10800
EC Host

[Anonymous No.]

>>4377808
66B Soul Sculpture is the one you're referring to, which I happened to steal from either Duckator or some random Sakuya he was playing, I can't remember which. CH 66C Phantasmic Killer is doable on almost split-second hit-confirm.

j.5C is good for wake-up games and when you're on the air while the opponent is on the ground; I use it quite often. 5C is good to use if you're confident that your opponent will block, as it will pretty much force them into the corner. I missed the part about him saying the C bullets were bad, or else I would've talked more about the C bullets as well; particularly throwing out stuff like 5B/214B hjc j.6C as full-screen games, or 6C hjc 236B. 6C's good at pegging people whose bullets take a bit longer to start up, though not quite on the level of Suika's 6B I fucking hate that fireball. I don't really use j.5C to approach, though.

[Seacats No.]

>>4377839
I'm not sure what just happened but rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4377839
GGs Seacats. I don't know what's wrong with the connection today, not only because of the disconnection, it was really annoyingly slow, at least on my side. Let's try this another time!

[Seacats No.]

>>4377902 Rehosting
If that's me I really want to know what going on I've never disconnected before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4377114
Unthinkable Natural Law is wrong as well, being just a machine translation of the original japanese name, so I don't get your point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378102
>being just a machine translation of the original japanese name
Yeah, god forbid calling Touhou games using English. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil? Perfect Cherry Blossom? Imperishable Night? Mountain of Faith? Subterranean Animism? UFO? What kind of homo names are these, seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378168
What a retard.

BTW, it's THE Embodiment of Scarlet Devil

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378168
All of those English names are officially part of the game's title. Touhou 12.3 does not have an official English subtitle.

IHBT, right? Whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

Calling the game UNL is good for pissing off tourneyfags, so it has its purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378215
Yeah, I love seing that butthurt anon linking his gay website each time someone calls the game UNL.

[Guy No.]

>>4377839
Oh God, I raged at so many things during those matches:

1.) Poor execution
2.) Dropped inputs
3.) Bad jump reads
4.) Dropping my CH 66C Phantasm Killer multiple times
5.) Forgetting to save replays
6.) Dropping my strings

Derp, good games, Seacats. I know I set a bad example, but work on not air-teching constantly when I'm near you. Also, don't always try to mash out of strings when I'm near you, you'll eat a lot of damage when I throw out projectiles instead of stagger melee.

[Guy No.]

Also, replays of my mediocre Sakuya if anyone who wanted Sakuya tips wanted to see how I handle her.

http://www.mediafire.com/?jhzjzi0wlbg

[Anonymous No.]

Someone host!

[Seacats No.]

>>4378357
GGs
I'm terrible at fighting Sakuya. I see all those knives everywhere and I pretty much have no idea how to react.
Pic Related it's my face when there's knives everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378376
>my mediocre Sakuya

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378187
>BTW, it's THE Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
Are you honestly pathetic enough to care or are you just joking?

[Seacats No.]

>>4377839
Derp forgot the rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378357
>guy
>raged
impossible

[Guy No.]

>>4378425
I'm glad you guys aren't next to me when I'm actually playing, that way I can act like I'm the epitome of calm after matches during which I say things that would make even the hardiest of sailor blanch.

It's really bad when I fight Mashkuus, Suikas, or Yuyucows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4373350
rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378446
Don't you love how Utsuho's 5A passes right through Sakuya's 6A? Thank goodness both sides whiff. It's still unbelievable the things she can mash through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378405
GGs Seacats.
It's ok to aerial tech a lot against Okuu if you're too high for the range of 3a UNLESS she has 6B out (the electric orb)
Then you really shouldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378385

[Seacats No.]

>>4378558
GGs
I've now been told at least 4 times I Air Tech too much so why do I still do it? ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Bump for EU hosts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378590
ok but I have only 20 min left
85.177.68.104:10800

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else hosting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378602
fuck now I'm way to late....
I knew this would happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378602
I loved these games profile1p, thank you for hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379051
Oh wow, we played for one hour? Time flies when you're having fun haha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379058
yes same here, really nice matches

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378460
Excellent games Yggdrasiface. That broom sweep got me every time....

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379097
Yes, good games. Think I need to take a break anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379106
One thing that I think might improve your play is to not overuse those green bullets so much. Although I don't play Marisa so I could be completely wrong there.

[Anonymous No.]

Host?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379320
200.106.189.135:10800

dont know bout lag

[Anonymous No.]

Mind if you guys help me with configuring/installing this? I got my SWR from the ftp that one /jp/er hosts, so it's just a folder with the game and stuff in it (not an install), unpatched. I got 12.3 from /rs/ it's the same thing as above. I must be stupid trying to configure the 12.3 .ini file like it says on the wiki, along with patching because sometimes I got the patch to work, but when I run it, the game crashes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379404
Good games dude. That's a shame for the delay, we can't play like that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379404
gg, got my ass kicked and lag didnt help

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379542
i hate being cornered like that, lol

but hey, you just played with a latinfag all the way down in Colombia

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379546
Haha, the connection between Colombia and France isn't probably the best one out there.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379481
I forgot to ask, but where do I put my 12.3(Or Hisoutensoku or whatever you guys call it) folder in after I'm done extracting it? (Editing the .ini and patching the game to get it to work is still giving me a lot of trouble.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379741
It doesn't matter where your 12.3 is, as long as SWR is in C:\program files\tasofro\th105

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379763
My problem is my SWR wasn't an install so the default can't be that, and no matter how I configure the .ini file, it seems to crash (with or without patch)

[Saje No.]

East Coast host:
69.119.178.162:07500

[Seacats No.]

71.175.58.135:10800 EC
Lunatic Rabbit Tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379820
Sorry that I had to leave so soon, I have to eat dinner. thanks for the games though

[Seacats No.]

>>4379820
GGs
Rehosting

[Saje No.]

>>4379788
Who are you and what have you done with Akagi?! Akagi doesn't play anyone but Suika. Your impersonation of him is terrible. Seriously though, GGs, Akagi. Dear lord that fucking ending. I thought I had that game in the bag when you activated MPP, but my 6C did literally 1 pixel too little damage. Makes me cry. Speaking of things that make me cry, MPP+River Mist inwards oscillation = FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF! Was nice finally getting to play Iku against you without Suika's awkward hitboxes getting in the way. She still needs a lot of work though... Thanks for the games. Always fun to play you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4379788
GGs Saje! Haha, that ending was really true gambling, I really had luck.

Well, I've finally started playing other characters but as you saw I've still got a long way to go. I'm quite hopeless with the tengu, her timings give me a headache, and I'm really harmless against aggressive characters such as your Sakuya or Youmu... Also allow we to steal that 5AAA 5B 214C from your Marisa, 5AAAA 66A 214C only works one time out of ten. Anyways, thank you for hosting!

[winty No.]

My controller is gone for the entire week. I get to glance through these threads and bawww.

[Saje No.]

>>4380996
Be my guest, but it's 5AAA 5B 214B, not 214C. 214C has a longer travel duration, so even successfully completing the combo may be unsafe. Be careful with that combo though. The timing between 5B and 214B is fairly strict and missing it means your opponent blocking a very unsafe on block attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4378376

::D

I wish more people would throw their replays up on mediafire. I love watching matches because my internet is too shitty to actually play anyone, so I just live vicariously through other people. Plus, it's great learning tools for anyone who casually browses the thread

For what it's worth, thanks for throwing those replays up. I appreciate it

[Guy No.]

>>4381118
As long as it helps, I'm happy. I can't say I'd recommend that anyone emulate my playstyle, though.

>>4381037
You can skill up 214 and snag a CH broom ride when they go to punish. It's a fun gimmick until they learn better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4381212
>You can skill up 214
I hate Krad's Marisa because he relies so much on broomride gimmicks.

>>4381118
>I wish more people would throw their replays up on mediafire.
I don't think many of my saved replays contain much value, but I do keep all of them. But I've accumulated so many that it would take hours to review them if I wanted to find the ones that were worth showing, because there are some funny games now and then.

Maybe all my matches with E-MAN would suffice.

[Guy No.]

>>4381247
>I don't have any funny games with Guy

;_;

[Saje No.]

>>4381118
Ask and ye shall receive. All 224 matches I've played since turning on auto-save 1 month ago sorted by opponent. Should keep you busy for a while, but I don't think most of them are worth watching for a third-party spectator, honestly. If you want to watch complete and utter failure you can always just watch the games against Anonymous.

http://www.mediafire.com/?cyrzvmmwzll

[Anonymous No.]

>>4381037
I see, thanks. It really does some nice damage and it's definitely easier to time than the 5AAAA one.

>>4381212
>skill up 214 and snag a CH broom ride when they go to punish
That's some good news for me, I use four broomride skillcards.

[Disco Electric Eel No.]

>>4381118
I've got some replays I could upload for you. Do you want some?

[Anonymous No.]

76.170.225.105:10800

US West.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone want all 999 of my v1.03 replays? 57 MBs total, against a whole slew of different players--6A, Akagi (screwing around with Alice, got my butt kicked), anonymous, beatsstayflowin (2-2, woohoo!), Dimglow, Duckator (57 replays), E-MAN (91 replays), Giant Tree (33 replays), Guy (86 replays), Johan (38 replays), Krad420, Lim, Lolimew (44 replays), Lunker (70 replays), Magister (only 28 replays, including a 0-15 beating he did against my main with Utsuho. I really want to play him more), MVRC, Rabbit-Box (45 replays), raymoo/GP (61 replays despite the fact he started avoiding me because he doesn't like my play style), www, and ZomB (1-2 against his Suwako I think). Unfortunately, a fraction of them are corrupted but I don't have the time to search them out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4381809
>1.03

[Anonymous No.]

>>4381882
It can't be helped. All my v1.10 replays suck because the games were played in extremely laggy conditions, so both players made numerous errors.

Anyway, I'll just leave this here: http://www.mediafire.com/?ndu4hzn0wby

[Guy No.]

>>4381725
Good games, Ryas. Would you happen to be from SU? Your style reminds me of Suwako Moriya when I saw him fight Bob51. Anyway, I'd suggest mixing up your corner combos a little bit, and to not attempt to graze/mash out of strings and wake-up quite as much as you were.

I saved a bunch of those replays, you showed me some pretty nice stuff with Suwako. It was nice fighting a good froggy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4381809

When was the last time you went outside?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4382421

GG, Guy. I was pretty hard-pressed to even get any attacks out while under all the attacks. And yeah, trying to graze on wakeup is a pretty bad habit of mine. As for your question, I'm not exactly sure what SU is referring to, so no, I'm definitely not that guy.

[Guy No.]

>>4381809
Raymoo doesn't like your style? The only slightly annoying thing that comes to mind is when you play keep away with Meiling, Marisa, or Komachi, and that's mostly because I'm too aggressive and leave myself wide open if I have to chase my opponent around too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4382426
Today. And it's not just some aberration since I also take classes and play sports. In fact, I'd have a lot more replays if I didn't take a 2-3 month break from playing Soku.

[Guy No.]

>>4382440
Ah, alright. I was just curious; I don't think I remember seeing you around, but I guess I have a sorta bad memory. Mmm, one more thing: don't fly around when you're low on orbs too often. If the opponent has spellcards, it's likely you'll eat around 2k-3.5k punishment out of either a guardbreak or running out of graze midair and eating the rest of the attack. It also makes it much easier to peg you/break orbs with attacks like Sakuya's Bounce No-Bounce knives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4382461
don't feed the troll. That's about, what, 30 minutes a day? There are many people that play far more than that.

[Johan No.]

>>4381809
Wow a you got a lot of replays there it could be worth to watch some of them

[Anonymous No.]

What is SU? I have seen that mentioned a lot but I have no idea of what it refers to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4382454
He was upset because I was zoning him.

[Guy No.]

>>4382521
I get upset when you zone me.Because you end up winning if you keep it up properly. </3 impatience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4373350
rehosting
WHERE IS NAZRIN, TASOFRO tier

[Johan No.]

>>4382513
SU= Scarlet union
http://www.scarletunion.net/

Its a weird site with bizarre and kinda stupid tourney rules

[Johan No.]

>>4382545
GGs Disco

[Anonymous No.]

>>4382545
Good games Johan. Although I'd prefer it if you didn't sandbag.

[Johan No.]

>>4383007
Sorry for that but its the way I play sometimes, if not i would corner you and never let you hit me. Its more entertaining to me as I give a chance to attack, even if I die

[Anonymous No.]

>>4383027

[Anonymous No.]

>>4383027
OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
BUURRRNNNNNNN

[Anonymous No.]

>>4373350
rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4382563
I joined, hoping to enter some decent site but wow. Those are some stupid rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4381118
http://www.mediafire.com/?zlzkjmu0qlt
These are most of my 1.10 replays. I have thousands more but they're all from earlier versions.

Hosting
76.29.15.231:07500
US Midwest

[Anonymous No.]

>>4383092
still hosting

[Saje No.]

>>4379788
Rehosting

>>4383229
Duck, that is the strangest Patchy deck I have ever seen in my life. All system cards+Silent Selene?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4383312
Great games, Saje, but I need to get some sleep. One thing I'd suggest is blocking Iku's 22C instead of trying to graze and attack, if you're getting it by it a lot. The Patchy games were the most fun. I almost came back with that invisible health bar

[Saje No.]

>>4379788
Rehosting

>>4383312
That's it Disco? So short... What happened during that first match? I know the Typhoon thing screwed everything up (sorry, didn't know you were one of those who try to negate its effects on a match). Thought it was a desync or I severely misjudged you which is why I went on to try the Komachi Catfish deck I copied. Regardless of that though, you gave my Komachi/Tenshi a real run for their money. Every time I went to try anything I had 6C HJC9 6C in my face. I'm not used to being on that side of the lightning spam. Good games.

>>4383600
I'm actually surprised by how safe that move is. Never seems like it whenever I try to use it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4383229
Good games Duckator. One of these days I'll stop sucking. Maybe. Or maybe I'll just go back to danmaku Wait, I'm terrible at those too...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4383229
Good games Yggdrasiface.

>>4383312
I have a spellcard, skillcard, and system card deck for each character. None of them are very good but they're fun to use once in a while.

[0rion No.]

76.171.238.148:10801
U.S. West
Playing as Suika after three beers and a couple scotches tier

[Saje No.]

>>4383634
I'm at a loss for words. Aside from those two victories I just narrowly took from you, your Sakuya completely and utterly decimated me tonight. Sorry if you wanted to fight something besides my Patchy, but it was one of those, "Just one more! I must redeem myself!" sort of things. Royal Flare doing less than 3 orbs of spirit damage still makes me sad. You escaped one of them by literally a pixel of spirit. That last match though... Snow came up and I thought "Excellent! An opportunity to get rid of that Red Slashy spellcard I'm so afraid of because 66whatever has a stupid huge hitbox!" I then successfully break that card only to realize you have a 2nd one in your band, get hit by 66whatever, and then eat the 4k damage. Le sigh. Good games Guy.

[Guy No.]

>>4379788
Good games, Saje. I think Patchy is one of my new not-so-fun Sakuya match-ups (not quite as annoying Komachi, though). Such frustration, it can't be expressed: Horrible f.5A and j.5A spacing that makes the moves stop just in front of you, 5Couli completely shutting down a ton of my air attacks and knife set-ups, me apparently still living in some sort of dream world where 66C has graze frames on start-up (I ate a lot of punishment from that, derp), and did I mention Touhou 12.5C: the game?

Anyway, me baiting the Royal Flare then trying to fly down, land, cancel land time with hjc was pretty derp when that failed. I just wish I knew what the justification for this one thing is:

"Hey guys, remember that asthmatic librarian?"
"Uh, yeah, that's Patchouli. What about her?"
"Let's give her a faster melee speed than a combat-ready time-stopping perfect maid1"
"...BRILLIANT!"

[Guy No.]

>>4384663
>>4384672
Haha, it's pretty amusing how we BOTH emerged from those battles quite frustrated. See, I personally can't believe I actually let you, a physically impaired librarian, mash out of a bloody block string. And pegging me with the 236 fireball because I didn't hj high enough with my 6C hjc9 6C DERP.

I really don't mind fighting a single character as long as you're trying, though. I'll usually just leave if I either get bored or about an hour passes.

[Anonymous No.]

Here are some more replays in case you want to laugh at my terrible spacing: http://www.mediafire.com/?itmo5nlhmcn

Three posts in a row, wow, this Guy fellow just never shuts up.

[0rion No.]

>>4384622

No takers, huh? Oh well, time for bed.

[Saje No.]

>>4384672
>>4384712
There are times I wish this were two people on a couch as opposed to netplay. We'd better be able to share in our frustration with a string of curses that'd only make us look like whining scrubs were such thoughts expressed in post-match commentaries. And it would be easier to hurt you for being frustrated with your own skills when you took 95% of the matches. I kid, I kid. Also, if you want to complain about an asthmatic librarian with faster melee than the time-stopping knife-wielder (frame data says otherwise if I'm reading it right, by the way), please allow me to complain about the knife-wielding assassin with denser bullets than the ranged combat specialist magician.

[Guy No.]

>>4384897
>There are times I wish this were two people on a couch as opposed to netplay

The swearing, man. Think of the swearing. You should've heard me when I got pegged by the Royal Flare I baited, or when j.5A stopped just short of your face for like the 5th time. While there's something to be said of playing while you're right next to your opponent, netplay does at least have a few, tiny advantages if you get past lag and dropped inputs and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4381540

This thread is autosaging now, but hey, if you have time, I'd love to see your replays. Please and thank you~

[Anonymous No.]

>>4385112

Also, thanks to everyone else that decided to post replays. It's nice to see how real players fight

Pic related. It's going to be me for the next few hours

[Guy No.]

>Youmu wins vs Meiling

"You don't use the Green Dragon Blade?
I've heard so much about it."

This would be the best patch ever. Tasofro, make it happen! ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>Sakuya wins vs Sanae

"And I thought you might be a better shrine maiden than Reimu. Seems like that's not the case."

Hahahahahaha, oh wow.