Can't magic cure asthma?

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Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:35:24 2010 No.4344721 [Reply] [Original]

Can't magic cure asthma?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:36:24 2010 No.4344726 No, that's why it was displaced by SCIENCE!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:36:24 2010 No.4344728 Actually it can. Too bad patchy's not asthmatic

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:37:24 2010 No.4344733 asthma was invented, it doesn't exist, just another excuse to sell medication to losers, same deal with aspergers, ADHD, etc

>>	Posting mode: Reply !!ULT62lINQW9 Wed Feb 10 14:38:24 2010 No.4344735 File: 740 KB, 1568x1186, 125174652646.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Obviously not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:39:24 2010 No.4344739 Patchouli was unfortunate enough to be hit with the human archetype of SquishyWizard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:40:24 2010 No.4344742 File: 64 KB, 368x500, 1240574674556.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wasn't Patchy anemic?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:41:24 2010 No.4344748 File: 464 KB, 945x1299, 1265645214957.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can magic cure dumbness?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:43:24 2010 No.4344759 File: 77 KB, 276x282, yukkupatchy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Vancian arcane magic can't. She'd have to be a divine caster. Maybe she could ask Reimu, Sanae or Shou.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:44:24 2010 No.4344761 File: 26 KB, 500x600, 1251802679444.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4344748 Have you ever thought that of all the mindless hordes or dumb idiots who scream "BAKA BAKA XD etc." not even 1% can beat Cirno on Lunatic?

>>	Posting mode: Reply !!ULT62lINQW9 Wed Feb 10 14:45:24 2010 No.4344769 >>4344761 True.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:47:24 2010 No.4344778 File: 175 KB, 500x500, 1265625940771.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4344761 Because baka is the strongest. Did you forget it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:49:24 2010 No.4344784 >>4344778 I'll laugh if ZUN really make Cirno the extra stage boss/the strongest in his next game.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:51:24 2010 No.4344798 >>4344721 >Implying Asthma can be cured.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:53:24 2010 No.4344814 She's anemic, you retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:56:24 2010 No.4344834 File: 34 KB, 389x257, 1263989465146.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4344733

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:00:24 2010 No.4344856 No, but she would know that má huáng does.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:15:24 2010 No.4344932 File: 13 KB, 178x178, the_foil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4344733 Creep, try living with it. Today only, comes with a free peanut allergy.

>>	Shikieiki !!KvMSlptKvlj Wed Feb 10 15:21:24 2010 No.4344958 >>4344733 I had asthma but after some years of inhaling the medicine from those asthma-medicine/lung-relaxant/whatever-inhalators I no longer have to deal with it. Still, shit was so not cash.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:24:24 2010 No.4344972 File: 139 KB, 400x400, yuyukoshock.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4344932 ... is that Fritzl?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:24:24 2010 No.4344976 >>4344814 Patchy is both anemic and asthmatic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:27:24 2010 No.4344994 >>4344972 First google images result for "tinfoil hat" Also a vague resemblance to Aleister Crowley with his pyramid hat and the Arch Linux logo.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:28:24 2010 No.4345003 Mages have low stamina, constitution and strength stats. It is not surprising at all she is anemic. She dumped all of her points on intelligence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:28:24 2010 No.4345005 File: 84 KB, 188x209, beatroll.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Can't magic cure asthma? Yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:29:24 2010 No.4345012 >>4344972 You mean Josef Fritzl? Doesn't look anything like him. lol "DURR ALL WHITE MAN LOOK SAME" amirite?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:31:24 2010 No.4345022 >>4345005 I don't get i- FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:33:24 2010 No.4345034 File: 53 KB, 702x479, 1254887123682.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Duh. Before magic, one must use an inhaler. After magic, one can use a pipe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:37:24 2010 No.4345053 File: 9 KB, 320x240, 1255138326503.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4344721 You won't believe how unfortunate that sentence is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:37:24 2010 No.4345056 >>4345053 Sounds juicy, do tell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:41:24 2010 No.4345073 >>4344721 Yes it can but why cure sick moe~?

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:42:24 2010 No.4345079
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>>4345056
Well, right now, the Uminekofags are fighting over the identity of the Golden Bitch, Beatrice.

One camp says that the ButlerMeido is Beatrice, and the other says that the Heir Apparent is Beatrice.

The heir apparent has asthma.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:45:24 2010 No.4345095 >>4344733 asthma was invented, it doesn't exist That's like saying allergies don't exist. >>4345079 What happened to the theory that both Jessica and Shannon are Beatrice?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:45:24 2010 No.4345096 >>4345079 My waifu is not a bitch, sir.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:46:24 2010 No.4345099 >>4345095 Don't fucking turn this into some shitty umineko debate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:46:24 2010 No.4345101 >>4345095 The fusion/doubletricefags are too busy trolling everyone to care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:48:24 2010 No.4345109 >>4344721 Can magic cure asthma? Yes. But magic can not cure the disease of moe.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:50:24 2010 No.4345122
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>>4344721
This is actually a deep and profound question. Lets say we have the power to make everybody normal and healthy. By normal that means things like pedophilia, and kind of sexual deviant as well as well physical disabilities like blindness, deafness etc.

Would it be ethical to force people with disabilities to become normal and if they refuse we enact penalties or take away their rights (You chose to remain blind so we're taking away any disability benefits you have) would it discrimination? Is forcing someone to change what makes them themselves right? Patchy may have magic to cure herself but she's (presumably) born weak and has become part of her character, changing that and making her healthy changes her character drastically and herself, as well as her self identity. is that right?

Just saying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:51:24 2010 No.4345125 >>4345122 Hey, if people want to suffer, let them suffer. So long as their suffering only affects them.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:55:24 2010 No.4345153

>>4345122

>Would it be ethical to force people with disabilities to become normal

No

>if they refuse we enact penalties or take away their rights

Enacting legal penalties would be unethical. However, discrimination based on these issues would be ethical to some extent.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:56:24 2010 No.4345159
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>>4345125
But it won't effect only them, it'll effect you since they'll still demand government help for being disabled. If you fix them up we won't have to continually look after them but doing that is discrimination.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:58:24 2010 No.4345167 >>4345159 I'm a pedophile, and I don't demand government help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:59:24 2010 No.4345171 >>4345159 Well, obviously, don't have the government help them. If they want to be disabled, fine, but they shouldn't expect any help from the government then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:01:24 2010 No.4345177 >>4345159 You're no longer talking about penalizing someone for their condition; rather, you want some third party (government money via the taxpayers) to reward them for having a condition.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:07:24 2010 No.4345198 >>4345122 Pedophilia is not a disability, it's a sexual orientation. And on a related note, most "personality disorders" are just signs that you actually have a personality.

>>	None !8FuIlcirno Wed Feb 10 16:08:24 2010 No.4345201 >>4345159 Patchu looks too sexy on that picture. She is supposed to be like >>4344721

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:10:24 2010 No.4345208
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>>4345171
I see.

Well since we're doing hypothetical stuff now let me ask you this.

Lets assume that there's a super race of humans somewhere in the mountains that are better, faster stronger, smarter and just all round better than whatever race you are now. The government has discovered a cheap way to turn everyone into said super humans for pennies on the dollar. They give everyone a choice to change or stay. Changing into said super people would completely and utterly change your way of thinking, culture, looks etc. People who don't change don't get any government protection from discrimination and such (that means if you apply for a job and they choose the super guy who applied for you solely cause you're an old style human you can't complain) or benefits (medicare, welfare or anything). On one hand becoming an Adonis would help society as a whole and not becoming one means you're a burden and get no benefits or protection on the other had changing completely wipes who you were as a person before. Would forcing you to change be unethical?

Pic unrelated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:12:24 2010 No.4345231 >>4345208 That scenario is purely contrived, and thus would never come into play. But if it changes your very core as a person, then no, it shouldn't be done. It's akin to being lobotomized.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:12:24 2010 No.4345232 >>4345198 Pedophilia is a mental disorder, in the same way necrophilia is.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:13:24 2010 No.4345235

>>4345122
That fallacious troll argument sounds vaguely familiar. Ah yes, >>4344733 "medicine = brainwashing"

Anyway, since you're either getting replies or making your own, it should be mentioned at least once that treating a medical condition doesn't change somebody's willful intent in general except possibly to enable him/her to pursue it more effectively. Disease is not a part of any scientific notion of identity.

>>	None !8FuIlcirno Wed Feb 10 16:14:24 2010 No.4345243 >>4345232 I think that any adult that could fuck 13-year-old loli would become pedophile.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:15:24 2010 No.4345252

>>4345198
No. Just no. It is a mental illness that is coupled with a delusional and sociopathic disregard for children.

Most personality disorders are, in fact, extremely damaging for the person and everyone around them.

This board is for lolis. Take your pedophilia to anontalk.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:16:24 2010 No.4345256 >>4345243 Uneffective trolling or lulzy pedo logic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:20:24 2010 No.4345278 >>4345256 Actually I think most of /jp/ is pro-pedo. So maybe you're the one who's trolling.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:25:24 2010 No.4345310

>>4345231
>That scenario is purely contrived

I know.

>>4345235
>it should be mentioned at least once that treating a medical condition doesn't change somebody's willful intent in general except possibly to enable him/her to pursue it more effectively.

In general, but what about specific cases where treating the disease does exactly that? Take example being a pedophile. An effective treatment of that condition means suppressing sexual desire of any kind. How about that scenario?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:28:24 2010 No.4345323 >>4345310 HURR Paedophilia is not a disease.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:33:24 2010 No.4345355

>>4345310
Pedophilia isn't a medical condition. It isn't even a neurological condition. It's a problem with an individual's character whereby he or she (it's generally but not always a dude) feels entitled to pursue sexual predation of a minor.

The only appropriate treatment is prison, sex offender status and tattoos, and for the guys at least, cutting their dick and balls off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:34:24 2010 No.4345359 >>4345323 >Paedophilia is not a disease. Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders says otherwise. So who am I going to believe, some random raging pedophile or Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders?

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:34:24 2010 No.4345362

Goddamn it 4chan.
How come you can have an intellectual discussion about just any subject (in b4 "hur dur no we can't", if you think that way you obviously haven't been outside of /b/ for long enough), but as soon as someone mentions pedophilia or transsexuals/crosdressing/gay-stuff-in-general you get completely retarded?

>>	None !8FuIlcirno Wed Feb 10 16:34:24 2010 No.4345363 >>4345355 white knight detected. admit it, you'd rather fuck 14 year old than 41 year old

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:37:24 2010 No.4345379 >>4345362 Because pedophilia is bad, and you should feel bad. Really, one can find justification for just about any action, it doesn't mean we have to buy the justification for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:37:24 2010 No.4345380 >>4345363 14 year olds are legal to fuck in about two thirds of the world. Grass on the field, play ball etc. You're confusing ephebophilia (barely-pubescents) and pedophilia (prepubescents). Like everybody else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:37:24 2010 No.4345382 >>4345359 So who am I going to believe Depends, do you want to be an idiot or a tool?

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:38:24 2010 No.4345389

Goddamn it 4chan.
How come you can have an intellectual discussion about just any subject (in b4 "hur dur no we can't", if you think that way you obviously haven't been outside of /b/ for long enough), but as soon as someone mentions god or evolution/creationism/science-vs-religion-in-general you get completely retarded?

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:39:24 2010 No.4345391
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>>4345363

I'd rather fuck experienced and mature 20 years old with a little bit of hair in the top of her vagina, rather than unexperienced 14 years old, and rather than 41 years old. Only virgins dream about fucking an adolescent and stupid 14 years old girl.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:39:24 2010 No.4345395

Goddamn it 4chan.
How come you can have an intellectual discussion about just any subject (in b4 "hur dur no we can't", if you think that way you obviously haven't been outside of /b/ for long enough), but as soon as someone mentions America or democrats/republicans/political-stuff-in-general you get completely retarded?

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:40:24 2010 No.4345400

Goddamn it 4chan.
How come you can have an intellectual discussion about just any subject (in b4 "hur dur no we can't", if you think that way you obviously haven't been outside of /b/ for long enough), but as soon as someone mentions Beatrice or Moon-chan you get completely retarded?

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed Feb 10 16:41:24 2010 No.4345404

>>4345359
Pedophilia acted out doesn't magically become worse than stalking and raping a woman, just because it's about children. Murder doesn't become worse when it's a black man killing a white guy, or a white guy killing a black guy.

If it's non-consensual, it's rape. If it's murder, it's murder.

One obsession is just as bad as any other when it brings harm because of its overpowering hold on someone.

>>	None !8FuIlcirno Wed Feb 10 16:41:24 2010 No.4345406 >>4345391 so would I but given only two choices 14 old 41 old which one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:43:24 2010 No.4345413 File: 90 KB, 640x480, 1149523026457.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345404 But these are CHILDREN we're talking about! CHILDREN!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:45:24 2010 No.4345421 >>4345404 Actually, it does. Mentally, raping a child is going to have worse effects than raping a woman would have. No "magic" to it, a child's mind is far less developed than an adult's.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:45:24 2010 No.4345422
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>>4345382
Sorry mate but if believing credible people who spent years and money researching this over some raging closet pedophile then fuck I'm more of a tool then the hammer in my drawer.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not on some moral rampage to bash pedophiles or otherwise normal people who like loli (yes there is a difference between people who like loli and those who like 3d). But I'm not going to entertain faggots who refuse to believe that pedophilia is a disease. In all honesty is the overly vocal idiots who claim nothing wrong with fucking children that make pedophiles who don't act on their urges on people who fap to harmless 2d loli look bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:46:24 2010 No.4345427 >>4345406 Not touching the kid. I will screw the hell out of a MILF/Cougar though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:46:24 2010 No.4345429 >>4345406 Well, duh, the one that wouldn't have me put in jail.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:46:24 2010 No.4345430
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>>4345406

My hand.

No, seriously, if you fuck an inexperienced 14 years old girl, she would only want to be fucked, not fuck me. And I prefer to be the one fucked (the girl in the top). There's also the vaginal blood and the pains until everything become stable.

Fucking a 41 years old... it's not my fetish. I am still too young to fuck a grannie. So yeah, I choose my hand.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:46:24 2010 No.4345432 http://www.projektassassin.pl/15824.html

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed Feb 10 16:48:24 2010 No.4345438 >>4345421 It's the same thing. You wouldn't suggest any less strict punishment for raping a woman than for a child. You can't forgive either, and you're going to make damn sure it doesn't happen again by that person.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:48:24 2010 No.4345446

>>4345422
How can it be a disease ?
How does being attracted to chidren make you more diseased than being attracted to blondes or fat people ?
It's called a disease because people are scared of it and want to believe that something separates them from pedos.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:48:24 2010 No.4345447 the sickness is source of her power

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:49:24 2010 No.4345453

>>4345438
Woah, buddy, hold on. I'm not trying to belittle the raping of a woman, I'm just saying that mentally, raping a child is far more damaging than raping a woman.

All rape is incredibly damaging regardless, and rape in general should be punished severely, but raping a child is a bit more heinous.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:50:24 2010 No.4345458
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>>4345404
Don't put words in my mouth tripfag. A crime is a crime. Raping a child is just as horrible as raping a woman. But that is neither here nor there, Pedophilia is a sickness. Being sick is not a crime, having AIDS doesn't make you a bad guy. We should be trying to help sick people. But claiming you don't have a disease then going out to hurt people (assuming the pedo acts on his urges) is bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:51:24 2010 No.4345464 >>4345458 We should still have the pedophiles rot in jail. Moreso when they have been shown to manipulate children.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:51:24 2010 No.4345465 >>4345453 How about consensual sex? Is it damaging?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:52:24 2010 No.4345469 >>4345453 Almost every woman has sexual fantasies about being raped.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:52:24 2010 No.4345471 >>4345465 With a child? Yeah, at least before maturity, of course it's damaging.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:53:24 2010 No.4345476 >>4345430 41 is a grandma?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:54:24 2010 No.4345483 >>4345469 Do your mom have fantasies about it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:54:24 2010 No.4345485 >ITT: People that think 2D pedo is the same as 3D pedo.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:54:24 2010 No.4345486
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Patchi isn't anemic really. Its just that she uses vampire blood to amplify her magic, and its slowly destroying her body. I'm half ready for her to pull a FMA body swap, and Marisa sure is healthy don't you think.....

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:54:24 2010 No.4345487 >>4345469 Hey, I dream about falling off a cliff, it doesn't mean I want to fall off a cliff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:55:24 2010 No.4345494 >>4345483 I wouldn't know, I can't read people's minds. But looking at the statistics, it's very possible. Wait... You're trolling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:55:24 2010 No.4345495 >>4345453 >I'm just saying that mentally, raping a child is far more damaging than raping a woman. Where's your empirical prove?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:56:24 2010 No.4345502 >>4345458 You might want to learn what disease means and how it differs from psychological disorders. Seriously.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:56:24 2010 No.4345504 >>4345486 you are fucking retarded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:57:24 2010 No.4345511 >>4345487 You don't understand, what you just described is a nightmare. That you have while sleeping. Sexual fantasy is something they think of when they are/want to be horny. Or wet dreams. So yeah, it IS something they want.

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Wed Feb 10 16:58:24 2010 No.4345514 File: 560 KB, 998x854, koakumapatchy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345486 Patchy is a lich. But you don't want to see that, so have some mana transfer instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:58:24 2010 No.4345519 >>4345511 Ok buddy, rape is totally ok. Keep telling people that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:58:24 2010 No.4345521 File: 385 KB, 726x1000, 1265660529148.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345486 Vampire blood doesn't fuck up your body, but considering Patchouli's position, it could be very provable that she tasted Vampire blood before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:58:24 2010 No.4345524 File: 212 KB, 1000x1200, 122325836564.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345504 u mad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:59:24 2010 No.4345531 >>4345494 Not trolling, just trying to make you reconsider what you are saying.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:59:24 2010 No.4345532
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>>4345453
I was molested as a child by a man much older than I.
I am okay with this.

You underestimate the ability of a child's mind to adapt, and overestimate the ability of an adult's to do the same.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:00:24 2010 No.4345538
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>>4345465
Kids can't give consent.

>>4345469
Clearly you're girl and you're giving us inside info. Oh wait, no you're a male who's locked up in a basement and his only contact with females are the made up ones in anime and manga. Why the fuck should we believe you? In fact ask your mom is she has fantasies of being raped and report back her answer.

>>4345464

You know its a bad thing to lock people up who haven't done anything? Being a pedophile is not against the law, raping a kid is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:01:24 2010 No.4345542 File: 847 KB, 1200x950, 1206418429262.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345514 Mmm, sweet delicious mana transfer. Also Lich you say...?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:03:24 2010 No.4345555 >>4345532 Pics or it didn't happen

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:03:24 2010 No.4345559 >>4345538 >Kids can't give consent. Yeah, sure, humans are mentally incapable of making any kind of conscious choice until they're exactly 18.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:04:24 2010 No.4345565 >>4345538 >Kids can't give consent. That's one of the first things they learn.

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Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:05:24 2010 No.4345571
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>>4345538
>Kids can't give consent.
I'm 17.99999999999999999999 years old, I can't give consent, I'm mentally incapable of making the choice of whether or not I want to have se- oh wait I just turned 18 in mid-sentence. Perfectly capable now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:07:24 2010 No.4345578 >>4345538 5 seconds in google http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-11-29/people/what-s-behind-rape-fantasies/

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:08:24 2010 No.4345586

Children are too ignorant (or innocent, whichever word you want to use) to fully grasp the repercussions of something like sex. But when they grow beyond the point of trusting every adult, they can think for themselves to a healthy degree. I'd say the turning point is roughly around 14 or so (and will say that if you have sex with someone younger, yeah you are a pedo and should burn.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:10:24 2010 No.4345606 >>4345586 This is right. This is why I want to get kids educated about sex by the time they're 5, that way they're all clear.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:10:24 2010 No.4345611 >>4345586 see >>4345571 & >>4345559 Same principle applies. It's not nearly as black and white an issue as your pre-conceived notions would have you believe

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:11:24 2010 No.4345626 File: 159 KB, 1000x862, 125806883838.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345578 tl;dr

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:12:21 2010 No.4345627 When a kid becomes "sexually mature" there's no reason for it to not have sex.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:12:24 2010 No.4345636 When a kid becomes "sexually mature" there's no reason for it not to have sex.

>>	None !8FuIlcirno Wed Feb 10 17:13:24 2010 No.4345642 Ofcourse kids can give consent. I was 13 when I got rid of my virginity with another 13 year old that I subsecuently had a relationship for 4 years so I doubt it was against her will. It's just that people develop at different pace.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:13:24 2010 No.4345643

>>4345586
>implying that kids are automatically trusting or obedient towards adults

Kids have a fucking *innate* sense of when some older, bigger person is trying to take advantage of them. Sure they're sexually ignorant and can be goaded into such activity with someone they already trust, but it's not like kids fit that "You'll give me candy if I let you touch me down here? Okay!" stereotype.

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>>4345571
>>4345559
>I'm 17.99999999999999999999 years old, I can't give consent,
>Yeah, sure, humans are mentally incapable of making any kind of conscious choice until they're exactly 18.

Whats that? A fallacious argument hinging on what I never said. Never fail to remind me how fucking stupid some of you are when discussing shit.

For starters, no being 18 doesn't grant you magical powers of common sense, You get that when you're 25. We give you the arbitrary number of 18 because that what society has dictated. At 18 you sure as fuck better start taking responsibilities for your action. In some societies its as soon as you grow pubic hair that shit varies.

I'm going to give you good solid reasons why you don't let a kid make life long decisions.

From ages 0-13, you're still struggling with advanced concepts such as thinking past tomorrow and "this shit may kill me maybe I shouldn't do it". From 13 - 18 You've gotten said concept down but you're still a bag of raging hormones who thinks with your genitals instead of with your mind. From 19 -25 you've gotten down the basics of "responsibilities" and long term consequences but your "Holy shit this may actually kill me" concept doesn't come until 25. It should fucking obvious why we don't let the bumbling retards known as kids and teenagers make any important choices. Don't like that the age of consent is 18? Either cry more or change it. But knowing you impotent fags you're probably going to waste time argument about it online.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:18:24 2010 No.4345694

>>4345611
I saw them. What of it? I agree that there is no absolute age at which sex is automatically safe and reasonable, because everyone matures at different rates.

I do believe in a few basic facts though.
1) Children and teenagers are selfish.
2) Teenagers are very horny and its easy to think with your hormones and not your brain.
3) People are dumb as hell and don't truly mature until they leave their home (aka college.)
4) Its a parent's responsibility to make sure their children understand the repercussions of sex and a good parent will try to keep them out of bad situations.
5) Most people trying to justify sex with little girls are sexually depraved virgins who just want an easily manipulated fuck toy because every woman has refused them (and rightly so.)

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:19:24 2010 No.4345696

>>4345578
How did does that change anything I said in my post? Some men have fantasies about being dominated by women so that means all men have fantasies about being dominated by women and that gives women a green card to rape men! See how fucking stupid that sounds?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:20:24 2010 No.4345703 >>4345660 I just laughed my ass off at you. I'm just going to ignore any new posts you will make. No, wait, you know what? I'll ready everything else you'll write. I hadn't had such a good laugh in a long time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:22:24 2010 No.4345717 File: 142 KB, 701x900, Things_Aussies_can't_have.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345696 Forgot my pic and sage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:22:24 2010 No.4345723 File: 90 KB, 490x480, 1265840507407.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >everyone in this thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:25:24 2010 No.4345751 File: 332 KB, 919x1300, Things_Aussies_can't_have.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345703 k

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:27:24 2010 No.4345761 >>4345538 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_fantasy Complete with sources and all. More than half of the women surveyed have had rape fantasies.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:29:52 2010 No.4345775 [DELETED]

>>4345660
I partially agree with you, but I think you are misidentifying things.

1) Common sense at 25. I would call it "a true sense of responsibility" but it comes from the buildup of exposure to life. The number is arbitrary. If anything this is the responsibility needed to have children, not have sex.

2) 19-25. These are the college years, and its not due to age its do to personal freedoms. People leave home, they meet people unlike them, they begin to understand a world beyond just themselves. They get to cut loose and find themselves which is a required process to reach maturity. If we changed the college entrance age to 16 it would be just the same.

3) 13-18. I agree hormones are raging and the kids are still to ignorant to understand, but I also believe that having sex at that age will destroy you. Hell I lost my virginity to my long term girlfriend at 16 and it taught me a lot. And its not like birth control is difficult to come by.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:30:24 2010 No.4345782

>>4345660
I partially agree with you, but I think you are misidentifying things.

1) Common sense at 25. I would call it "a true sense of responsibility" but it comes from the buildup of exposure to life. The number is arbitrary. If anything this is the responsibility needed to have children, not have sex.

2) 19-25. These are the college years, and its not due to age its do to personal freedoms. People leave home, they meet people unlike them, they begin to understand a world beyond just themselves. They get to cut loose and find themselves which is a required process to reach maturity. If we changed the college entrance age to 16 it would be just the same.

3) 13-18. I agree hormones are raging and the kids are still too ignorant to understand, but I also believe that having sex at that age WON'T destroy you. Hell I lost my virginity to my long term girlfriend at 16 and it taught me a lot. And its not like birth control is difficult to come by.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:31:24 2010 No.4345786 >>4345761 Fucking sluts.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:32:24 2010 No.4345791

To the guy who's fighting against pedos, you aren't reading half the stuff the opposing people are saying. You did in fact say what you said you didn't say in this post >>4345660 Just with different wording. You have a preset mind on this debate which doesn't make this much of a debate at all. If you come into an arguement or debate with a preset mind and don't budge one way or the other in the process of said arguement/debate, then you won't take anything out of it, and you're just making a speech about your morals. Either open your mind or just make your next post a list of things you think are right and leave this place.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:32:24 2010 No.4345794
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>>4345761
I just asked>>4345696

Men also have fantasies for being raped as well and being dominated. Clearly that means we should rape men at any given chance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:36:24 2010 No.4345816 >>4345794 With men it isn't the most common fantasy though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:36:24 2010 No.4345820 >>4345761 44.7% of men want to be raped? I didn't know that almost half of men on this world frequents /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:37:24 2010 No.4345824 >>4345794 It wouldn't bother me overly. How do YOU know how damaging rape is? It's been a common thing and nobody made a fuss out of it for centuries. Have you ever been raped ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:38:24 2010 No.4345832 >>4345791 psst! he doesn't have an opinion. He just tells us what the TV told him. Because he mindlessly believes that's true, and refuses to stop and think if it really is. Because he's an idiot. So we're trolling him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:39:24 2010 No.4345838 There's nothing really wrong with rape if you don't hurt the woman while doing it.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:39:24 2010 No.4345840

And now I'll get to the rape subject.

Woman are naturally drawn to rape because it is a primitive associated with strength and so receiving the genes of a healthy strong male. Its intrinsic to their being because during sex they are being filled, penetrated, and receiving the action.

There have been studies that identify a correlation between rape and higher chances of impregnation, but it can be skewed. If a girl is horny and fertile, she's probably more likely to put herself into a situation in which she'll be "taken advantage of". While woman do have hidden ovulation (unlike most mammals) I do think there are signs, such as an altered body language or habit.

That is not to say women want to be raped by someone they don't trust. If a woman is walking to her car in a parking lot and a guy runs up, holds her down, and rapes her, then it will be harmful and is wrong. End of story. If a woman meets a guy at a bar and is attracted to him, then she is somewhat consenting to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:39:24 2010 No.4345841 >>4345794 >A woman comes over and rapes me I'm okay with that.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:40:24 2010 No.4345847
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>>4345782
I never said having sex destroys you, just that you can't give consent.

>>4345791
The hell you trying to say? I think I made it clear I'm not on some moral rampage. I'm not attacking pedophiles, I'm not attacking lolicons but I am attacking people who believe that 1) Kids can make decisions when they can't scratch their ass without a mirror and a map 2) Fucking children is completely normal.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:43:24 2010 No.4345873
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>>4345832
>Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders says otherwise. So who am I going to believe, some random raging pedophile or Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders?

You still haven't given me a good reason why I should listen to some random idiot on the internet over people who actually know what they're saying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:43:24 2010 No.4345877 >>4345847 I'm not racist but niggers should be slaves again. See, because I said I wasn't, that means I'm not. You are on a moral rampage and you proved it in your own post. Now make a list of your morals and leave.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:44:24 2010 No.4345885 >>4345847 >I'm not on a moral rampage! >but all pedophiles should be tortured and killed. seriously. Ok.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:44:24 2010 No.4345886 >>4345782 >Hell I lost my virginity to my long term girlfriend at 16 What the fuck? Why are you on /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:45:24 2010 No.4345894 well shit, I don't think patchy supports rape

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:46:24 2010 No.4345905 >>4345873 >>Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders The previous revision said homosexuality was a mental disorder. I wouldn't ascribe too much authority to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:47:24 2010 No.4345910 >>4345894 Fuck it. This thread deserves to die. Patchy is a cartoon. She isn't real. She's just a character in a silly video game, so she can't have any opinion on that.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:49:24 2010 No.4345920

>>4345847
They can't give proper consent. Ok. Does that mean that sex at that age is harmful? It can be, depending on the person. If their first exposure to sex is by someone who is abusive or manipulative and think "this is what love and relationships should be" well then yes they will end up fucked up. If it is done in a healthy manner, then I don't really see a problem (but sadly this is not often the case.)

Also the "age of consent" is still relative to cultures, since some countries identify it as low as 14 (admittedly most of those places are shitty 3rd world countries)

Man I hope most of the people in this thread don't breed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:49:24 2010 No.4345922 >>4344733 Except the medication actually works

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:49:24 2010 No.4345923 I'm not reading all of this shitstorm. Also, I farted.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:49:24 2010 No.4345924 >>4345905 Fags do have mental disorders, dipshit. Sacrificing your ability to pass your genes so can can stick your dick in men's asses is proof of how fucked up in the head gays are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:52:24 2010 No.4345937 >>4345924 Hurrr

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:52:24 2010 No.4345941 >>4345905 That's because definition of mental disorders includes "insisting on doing what your culture prosecutes you for". And this, until recently, applied to homosexualism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:53:24 2010 No.4345945 >>4345886 Because if people like me aren't around to balance the scales, it will actually be justifiable to burn you fuckers and this site to the ground. Also I could never resist a good debate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:54:24 2010 No.4345954 >>4345924 That would mean that any heterosexual couple that chooses to not have children has a mental disorder. Your logic is flawed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:56:24 2010 No.4345973 >>4345954 Your logic is obtuse, at best. Logical fallacies does not a point make.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:57:24 2010 No.4345976 >>4345941 >"insisting on doing what your culture prosecutes you for" This is just retarded. So because I don't go to church on Sunday I have a mental disorder? Please.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:58:24 2010 No.4345988 >>4345945 So why are you on /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:58:24 2010 No.4345992 >>4345973 That could be said exactly the same for your point about fags.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:59:24 2010 No.4345997 File: 16 KB, 360x240, 1246130501096.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345660 If you first earned your common sense when you were 25 then boy, you're slow as fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:59:24 2010 No.4345998 >>4345973 Using archaic grammatical constructs makes you Shakespeare not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:00:24 2010 No.4346003 File: 14 KB, 300x300, 7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4345988 Because Patchi is moe~ Also because I enjoy Touhou and anime, but /a/ is a bunch of obnoxious little bastards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:02:24 2010 No.4346009 >>4345976 Does your culture persecute you for not going to church. Also, in eyes of some people on this world, you ARE insane for not going to church on sunday. Fortunately for you, those religious zealots are considered insane by your culture.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:02:24 2010 No.4346011 >>4345660 If this was true then alot of people would die before they became 25. Therefore it cant be! It's elementary, my dear Watson

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:03:24 2010 No.4346016 >>4346003 Ah, kind of like me then. I actually also had a girlfriend and have had sex, but not in my teens. I thought I was the only one on here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:03:24 2010 No.4346017 >>4345998 i think he was aiming for Yoda. And that's not the point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:05:24 2010 No.4346036 >>4346009 >Does your culture persecute you for not going to church. Where I live, yes. I may not get beaten up but if you do any work here on a Sunday everyone will shun you. At least crime is low.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:08:24 2010 No.4346054 >>4346036 Then, at least in their eyes, you are insane. Not a lot, but you are (please keep in mind that mental health is not an on/off button. Shades of gray).

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:10:24 2010 No.4346064 >>4346054 Well, I am insane, but I don't think it's because I don't go to church.

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:12:24 2010 No.4346072

While Patchouli COULD cure her asthma, it'd strike off one of her reasons to stay indoors instead of being outside and being able to defend the SDM from Marisa's occasional raids better.

Or, in a twist of irony, that spell may be in one of her dustier tomes, and opening it means coughing fits all the night long.

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>>4345885
Are you fucking stupid? Where did I say burn the pedophiles? In this specific post I even said its bad to persecute them.>>4345538

Reading is a bitch right?

Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:26:24 2010 No.4346149
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>>4345905
If the people in charge stop saying pedophilia is a sickness then I'll stop too. Call appeal to authority all you want but at the end of the day people who actually research this shit carry more weight than a layman, especially if that layman frequents /jp/

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:40:24 2010 No.4346236 >>4346149 Supporting the current norm as the absolute justification is a pretty weak defense when talking about theoreticals. Its great for practical purposes though. I'm going to call this thread dead at 6:40 PM EST.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:44:24 2010 No.4346253 >>4346149 http://www.ipce.info/library_2/files/asb.htm Read this article and realise the DSM is full of shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 18:49:24 2010 No.4346275 Dillers, duder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 19:03:24 2010 No.4346343 File: 52 KB, 851x480, fools.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We just wanted a patchy thread...

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