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Previous thread: >>42812794
After KPP announced her wedding, I'm just waiting because I know for sure that Perfume will do the same thing.

>> No.43121942

>>43121308
Last thread didn't hit bump limit.
You're really going to try again?
You guys don't have the personality to keep a general alive. You have nothing of value to say. Threads are going to keep dying before bump limit because nothing said in these thread is worthy of responce.

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>>43121942
Most wholesome idol. No scandal or dramas like 48g or cheki idols

>> No.43123021
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>>43121942
>me crying because no personality boohoo.

>> No.43123498

I just wonder who Achan is going to marry. She seems to be the one that most wants to be a mother and a wife.

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Is this as sultry as the Perfumes get?

>> No.43124366

>>43123498
me hopefully

>> No.43125439

>>43124233
Probably. And Kashi is definitely the most sultry of the Perfumes. I thought it was Achan for awhile but now it’s definitely Kashi.

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>>43125439
Idunno why but Yuka always looked like a granny to me

>> No.43128278

>>43126274
that is a sexy young looking granny then

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New perfume closet promo.
I like the direction of showing more skins . Maybe we getting a proper gravure shoots soon

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She knows she's the pit queen.

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>>43121308
>tfw A~chan wears one of her more revealing tops

>> No.43134365

>>43131765
same, but I don't see how that is revealing

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>>43131636
She is doing on purpose

>> No.43135667

are perfume worth seeing live or is the lipsyncing too much? I do enjoy their songs and blu-rays, but going to a concert live is different

>> No.43136070

>>43135667
Yes, going to see them live is an even better experience. The crowd interactions with them are fun, and stage presence, lighting and dancing are top notch despite the lipsync

>> No.43137014

>>43136070
Agree . Their performance is so visual base so watching irl is so satisfying.

>> No.43137274

>>43135667
I saw Perfume live in NY during their Level 3 tour. It was a small venue compared to their dome shows but the atmosphere was still electric. The music was popping, the girls were charming and the crowd was into the whole thing. The whole thing felt surreal in a good way. I would love to see them again.

>> No.43137794

>>43136070
>>43137014
They say in a 500 capacity venue.
Try in a 250,000 capacity venue, shit is not fun.

>> No.43137802

>>43131182
Like clockwork
>Pro shoot time
>Nocchi despite little to no work looks transendant
>Professionals make A-chan look good
>All the king horses and all the kings men, can't make yuka look attractive again.

>> No.43138943

>>43137802
>can't make yuka look attractive again.
cope, yuka is sex

>>43131182
>Maybe we getting a proper gravure shoots soon
people still have hope for this?

>> No.43139949

>>43138943
why would I be coping?
>maybe we getting a proper gravure shoots soon
Confrimed actual retard.

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UK bros winning

>> No.43142679

>>43141811
I might just buy a plane ticket but god damn if it's not kino, I will assassinate A~chan.

>> No.43143546

>>43142679
plz don't

>> No.43145447

>>43142679
Don’t take Achan from us. She’s a treasure.

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>>43142679
I wanted to ass fuck her instead,
Nocchi I do missionary position only

>> No.43150746

https://youtu.be/zChqkv4hvJc

Nocchi fags in a nutshell

>> No.43152743

>>43150746
unrealistic part is a nocchifag having a gf

>> No.43153307

>>43152743
Right. Nocchifags typically never commit to one hoe. tfwnNGF will do that to a MF

>> No.43153403

>>43141811
ive been lucky to see perfume in japan several times, in NY but i swear my favourite time seeing them was the first time in Shepherd's Bush. They were amazing and the venue felt like it was going to explode.
If you can go....go. But I swear I will fight you for the front row.

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>>43153307
exactly

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>>43156424
How can human bois even compete?

>> No.43160767

>>43123021
lol

>> No.43161755

>>43150278
nahhh nocchi was made for cowgirl.

>> No.43165161 [DELETED] 

>>43121308
I like the smell of bubblegum, perfume for that?

>> No.43166856

>>43137274
>>43153403
bagels! cupcakes!

>> No.43167894

>>43156424
A-chan mommy milker need more exposure

>> No.43171645

>>43167894
She knew what she was doing

>> No.43175230

I still hate that a unfunny cuck like James Corden got to have a picture with them but a chad like me never will.

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Mirai No Museum is still their best music video

>> No.43182126

>>43165161
yeah at 5 below

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I'm gonna do a Yuka cum tribute video if this get 50 replies

>> No.43182832

>>43182336
I’ll do it for one reply.

>> No.43183179

>>43182027
Spring of Life is still my favorite.

>> No.43183732

>>43182027
is this a shitpost? it's a bottom 5 MV and song

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This is peak perfume

>> No.43187465

>>43183941
unironically yes
perfect star perfect style, computer city, electro world. can't beat that

>> No.43187494

>>43187465
and this masterpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T88rTNtHGA

>> No.43187582

>>43187494
underrated gem. love yuka's foundation march at 2:04, so kawaii. oh and nocchi in her game outfit makes me feel things

>> No.43190701

New music when?

>> No.43192564
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Opposites attract

>Kashiyuka
>Saving grace is that she is self aware, smooth talking and intelligent
>yuka fags are exclusively comprised of autistic, smooth brain social retards.

>A~chan is happy go lucky, idealistic, aspirational, motivated and a natrual leader. Also homophobic
>A~chan fags are exclusively made up of nihlistic faggots with zero direction in live other than to atomize every every community they join and then climb to the top.

>Nocchi umm
>Nocchi fags umm
You see that's why it would never work out. For ever doomed to carry the weight of tfwnNGF

>> No.43192615

>Nocchi starts streaming video games
>makes zero attempts to entertain her audience
>Sits in near silence, only muttering aloud when one usually would.
>Comment section are giving her tips
>She gets stuck
>looks over to her other monitor
>reads tip that helps her
>simply says "thanks guys".
>guy joins and says how much he loves Nocchi and how much of a big fan of perfume he is
>Nocchi looks over to the monitor
>starts to read it
>pauses the game to read it fully
>literally saying nothing as she does it, she bans the guy from her stream
>unpauses the game without saying a word
>chat explodes with laughter
>Nocchi doesn't even smile

Make it so.

>> No.43192617

>>43192564
umm

>> No.43192748

>>43192564
finally a quality post in this thread


but really i miss the waifu wars from the old perfume general days

>> No.43193273

>>43192748
That's the power of sincere posting.

>> No.43195746

>>43192564
Nocchi is an asshole and the only thing carrying her career is her face, as soon as the age hits her y'all mfs will stop dickriding her.

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Perfume is trash, stan Tomoe Shinohara

>> No.43196169

>>43195746
>Nocchi is an asshole
Nigga the A in A-chan stands for asshole

>> No.43196279

>>43196169
Nigga she is the only member who notices and communicates with fans. Also, she threatens everyone with respect and has the best personality.

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>>43196279
Only communicates with fans because she is a huge attention whore. She doesn't care about anyone but herself. You can see her real personality during interviews where she's a bitch to Nocchi as well as looking disinterested whenever Yuka or Nocchi are talking, probably because she can't handle not being in the spotlight for a few seconds

>> No.43198987

>>43195746
Imagine thinking the best dancer of the three is just a pretty face.

>>43196534
Imagine being able to hate sweet A-chan

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at least not a soul out there would hate on kashiyuka :')

>> No.43199362

I have a soul obliterating hangover but this thread makes me happy except for the fag that wants to make a jerk off vid I hope you get monkeypox everyone else is cool though.

>> No.43199369

Old fucks

>> No.43200081

>>43198987
>Imagine thinking the best dancer of the three is just a pretty face.
It's not even just that.
Nocchi is extremely good at everything A-chan is, often being as good as or better than her. She only lacks in social skills and has to rely on A-chan.
If someone wanted to use that against her they would then have to also hold it against yuka as she has the same issue.

>> No.43200141

>>43198987
>Imagine thinking the best dancer of the three is just a pretty face.
this is true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8YEx4d2wWg

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https://twitter.com/perfumeofficial/status/1646377532332097537?t=mftyKDY6f3umPsBhNkG_kA&s=19
A-chan Chainz gang

>> No.43202365

since when are we so tribalistic? why are we fighting amongst each other

>> No.43202523

>>43202365
>since when are we so tribalistic
Why are you using the "singe when are we..." phrase when you're clearly new.
>since when are we so tribalistic
Since waifu wars began and we agreed to be that way for the fun of it.
Literally the moment we said "wouldn't that be fun, let's be tribalistic". Since then.

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god damn it, why can't AI draw toes.

>> No.43206315

>>43205406
the tits are accurate

>> No.43206803

>>43205406
DO NSFW PLZ

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yeah

my waifu > your waifu

>> No.43207912

just booked a ticket to see them in london but now the tickets are going up in value I am tempted to sell it for 6 times the price I paid what do?

>> No.43207978

>>43207912
>Get to see Perfume or be scalper scum
Easy choice

>> No.43208046

>>43207978
I am also socially awkward and will try to get close to their feet if given the choice better make a quick profit
>scalper scum
pta members can literally still buy tickets if ur a fan u have no excuse so not my problem fuck face

>> No.43210562

Who would be the best at femdom?

>> No.43211054

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoRphqQICTI

>> No.43211235

Why did Perfume stop promoting outside Japan, they could have easily been the biggest Jpop with how unique and talented they were, even talentless gimmicks like Atarashi Gakkou and Baby Metal are gaining popularity fast.

>> No.43211288

>>43211235
I honestly don't know of a group other than perfume that actually maintained fame inside and out of japan for so long. Most of you zoomers probably weren't even born when they started, you'd be better off comparing them to a longer running group like morning musume or akb (both of which arguably died off in the west after the kpop hype wave and have only been active in otaku circles whereas perfume continues to have audience outside of the jpop scene)

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>>43211288
You can only compare them to idol groups because idol groups fuction different to typical musicians. Idols work on maintaining momentum. It's why they RARELY ever return from hiatus and when they do, it's always a failure for them.

Idol fans are ADD and do not actually give much of a fuck about the product of the idol, it's about maintaining a state of mind that the idol group helps them achieve.

Perfume fell off in the west and even in the east simply because they were very late to the social media party and frankly have been lacking now that they have arrived. If nothing else you can chalk it up to that and be done, but they also failed in a multitude of other areas. Though it might contradict what I said about fans not really caring about the product, their failure to produce a decent product. While the current fans will nearly always not give a crap about that, some will and just lose intrest, some don't care at one point and start to care later and lose intrest.

Perfume fell off in the west because the perfume fandom was fuelled by secondaries from idol groups that are no longer active. There is no pathway for a new comer to get into the perfume fandom and the fans that were once here slowly lost intrest as slowed down with their international tours. Nothing about their break into the international market was sustainable but most of all.

Perfume is dying because people stopped caring about Japan and became obsessed with Korea. All the kyary shitters are jerking off to Twice now. Even in Japan.

>> No.43211738

>>43211539
>people stopped caring about Japan and became obsessed with Korea.
Jpop has been bigger than ever in the west, Baby Metal are going on a big 29 date US tour with 5-6K capacity venues and a couple of amphitheaters sprinkled in. Ado, Yoasobi, Kenshi Yonezu all have more than 3Million monthly YT listeners from US alone. Fuji Kaze and Atarashi Gakkou songs have gone viral. Currently Oshi no Ko's OP by Yoasobi is already past 5 million views in a day since release.

>> No.43211846

>>43211539
you're looking at them from a jpop perspective and might be right in that regard but the way I see it, they are a great multi platform electronic group.
Their lack of social media presence speaks volumes on how careful they are with their brand (one of the best designed brand in fact) and it gives a premium quality to their work because they aren't trying to print out a quick photocard and promote it. So when they go on tour it shows that people do appreciate their approach as tickets get sold out quick.

The perfume fandom I know appreciates the carefully crafted videos and visuals so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to (perhaps it was at an early stage of their career)
You dont have to believe me but the promo items get sold out quick on they can easily live off the commercial promos they've done.
Touch grass if you think they should aggressively promote an already established quality brand

>> No.43211923

>>43211738
Lol you think I'm going to bother wasting my time going into all this shit with someone clearly dillusional and emotionally invested in being right?
Baby metally and Atarashi Gakkou do not have eyes on them like Twice or Blackpink not even fucking close. You are literally putting the best international performers in Japan and then comparing it to the average in Korea.

But yes you are right. The pedophile community make for very loyal and profitable fans.

Further more, youtube videos mean absolutely fucking nothing. A tik tok trend can get a video to 15M views and it finacially has zero to no impact on the artist and doesn't translate to sustainable tick sales.

If you want to measure metric for success. Nothing but album sales will convice me. Seeing as baby metal range from mid range top 10 sales to not even being on the list with Atarashi gakkou getting no where near the sales to get on a top 10 list. I will continue to call you a dillusional fag.

Show me the fucking record sales.

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>>43211846
>tour it shows that people do appreciate their approach as tickets get sold out quick.
I know for a fact that Japanese people can literally sleep through perfume single releases and then by a ticket to their live performance. When you are performing at the biggest venue in Tokyo, there are benifts other than being able to seat more people. For venues like that people genuinely search whats playing and think "yeah they're alright" and buy a ticket for them and their girl.

>The perfume fandom I know appreciates the carefully crafted videos and visuals so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to (perhaps it was at an early stage of their career)
>(perhaps it was at an early stage of their career)
Kill yourself or at least leave this place

>You dont have to believe me but the promo items get sold out quick on they can easily live off the commercial promos they've done.
The stock is incredibly low. How many boxes of Nocchicken curry do you think they made?

>Touch grass if you think they should aggressively promote an already established quality brand
Look at their sales, each new release sells worse than the last. If that is okay with them. Cool. If that is okay with you, cool. Just stfu about the notion of them some how growing. It's not going to happen.

Perfume could have had a much bigger involvement in their community and this owuld have been far better for their careers, undoubtably. They didn't because their company wanted to protect perfumes fucking gay ass corporate ass brand.
If any of the members of perfume did an oopsy that would be bad, can't risk them interacting with fans outside of a handful once every few years.
Fucking retarded approach. We've seen what the alternative yields and it's why perfume are doing it now. It's too late however and the people that left probably aren't intrested in watching A-chan talk to the same 3 people over and over while playing with filters.

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>>43211923
The question to begin with was why wasn't Perfume pushed harder abroad, you're not arguing against that when you bring up Kpop which is relentlessly pushed abroad like you could suggest should have done with Perfume. His other point is that there is a market for Jpop, not that they're filling stadiums and topping the charts, which they aren't put in a position to do so.

>> No.43212189

>>43212139
oh shit my bad I'm sleepy.
Nothing I said was wrong though.
They didn't push it harder in the west because they were hedging their bets.
They were right to, they got the absolute most they could have and in fact I think they pushed it a bit too hard with the cochella appearances, the OK ROCK crossovers and the american tour.
It all amounted to nothing which is why you're here saying why didn't they push harder.
If they pushed harder they would have failed harder.
They can not build a fandom in the west because they type of people who need a parasocial relationships with their musicians are not going to be satisfied with the level of interaction perfume has with their fans while alternatives are out there to give them that more personal connection and people who don't need that need their musicians to be more than just the figurehead for a bunch of producers that have their own projects they care more about.

As for the community of people that can actually apprectiate what perfume themselves contribute to Perfume, I don't think there exists a market of people who specifically are into the type of dancing perfume does.

Perfume don't sing live, they don't have any hand in their art, dress, hair and make up, music videos, choreography or stage performances (aside from being the actual performers of course). This easier to accept when everything is on point, but perfume haven't been on point for 8 years. Who out there that takes music seriously is going to stan perfume. maybe just acknowledge them but not care as much as is needed to support a move into the international market.

I know quite a few people who know of perfume and like their stuff as a whole but think about them at most once a year and don't follow them in any capacity. A person like that would probably go to see perfume but probably wouldn't know they were performing and would miss it. Intrest from people like that doesn't do you much good.

>> No.43212322

>>43212023
your reddit spacing is repulsive and i wont bother reading all that crap keep posting irrelevant images and ignore the facts if that makes you feel good buddy
take your meds immediately if you felt offended at whatever I said previously while you're at it and maybe avoid groups that don't do a handshake event or maintain your schizo state of mind

>> No.43212335

>>43212322
You couldn't respond adequately if you tried. See you tourist. Perfume will never visit brazil.

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so many PR marketing experts in here its actually amusing imagine thinking you know how to run a brand when your neet ass hasn't left the house in ages

>> No.43212518

>>43212335
>nooo you cant just be satisfied with success you have to compete with LE WEST with other kpop trash sell fap content and mediocre songs
>LE WESTERINO should be the goal but too late now my state of mind is not helped

>> No.43212555

>>43212473
project much, I know how communities work to such a degree that I can predict how they develop just from observing them. I knew perfume would fail to make it over seas since 2018 when they refused to break into social media.

My prediction as always was correct. I would unironically help perfumes overseas marketing if they put me in charge of their social media. step one of my master plan to take pictures of A~chans soles

>> No.43212573

>>43212518
>Why didn't they try harder in the west
>Their stratergy failed and more resources in that direction wouldn't help, if they're fine with where they are then what ever
>YOU'RE SEETHING OVER THEM NOT GOING TO THE WEST
point to the part of anything I've said that indicates I'm seething over them not going to the west? If I want to see them live in Tokyo dome, it's less than an hours commute for me.

>> No.43212626

>>43212573
sneed and learn to use green text
>>43212555
yeah you're that guy that is just too intelligent for the world, I suppose netflix would upload their concert in the western site because they failed right?

>> No.43212685

>>43212626
Continue to act flippant. I've already won. I said X would happen, x happened. How can you retort? Keep coping by larping as unphased. All you want is for your mediocre trio of air heads to be less irrelevant so you can feel vindicated, that will never happen. I'm already vindicated.

I bet my life on this next prediciton. Once perfume disband, none of the 3 members will have any form of media career afterwards.
Screenshot it. It will happen.

>> No.43212870

>>43212685
you clearly didn't read anything I said so I'll just phrase it in a retard way so you can understand
>active from 2000 till now
>songs featured in movies
>various artists and high fashion collabs
>their own clothing line and paid membership site
>literally hundreds of commercials
>actually funny tv appearances and genuine chemistry between members
they've already won
just enjoy the ride or keep screeching about how they should have taken over the world either way ill be enjoying the o2 experience

>> No.43212977

>>43212870
As Idols they won't see even a quarter of the profits a comparable actor or singer would you idiot. There is a reason members of even a group like Arashi, which is hundred times more popular than Perfume, act and have other solo activities.

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>>43212870
>keep screeching about how they should have taken over the world either way
Again I never said they should. I explained why their approach failed and why doubling down wouldn't have worked.
I've read what you've said, you're shifting the goalpost.
By the very same measure, perfume won over 10 years ago and hasn't really achieved much since which is equally as sad.
the various collabs and ventures they've done doesn't increase their album sales.
They're a music group who sell less and less music each time they produce something.

>songs featured in movies
no one in Japan remembers any of their songs used in movies. It had no cultural impact and is just a pay cheque.
>literally hundreds of commercials
They haven't had one that left an impression since Polyrhythem.
>various artists and high fashion collabs
I visited Levi's main branch in Shibuya and it was empty. No one cared. Did you buy a pair of Levi's? It's just a pay cheque. How does this make them more successful as musicians? Where are their call backs? Tully's got them for two adverts and never called back. They're still making Boss coffee adverts with Tommy Lee Jones. We about to see him in a new blockbuster movie?
>actually funny tv appearances and genuine chemistry between members
That they appear on TV as infrequantly as they do says more than the fact that they appear at all does. Wheres the latest season of masked singer? If we don't get ads for it by summer its safe to say it's gone the way of Music Japan.

All of the above is entirely irrelevant but poking fun of Perfume is amusing. The point is they're popularity is diminishing and Perfume is a shambling husk of what it used to me. Continue to simp. I'll continue to simp for no one because I grew up and got a life now give me something better to respond to, I'll be hitting f5 and waiting

>> No.43213055

>>43212977
maybe people don't want to work after establishing a brand for so long, I doubt a mongrel child like you would understand something like that though. You need to be 18 to post here and have. Basic knowledge of income would help too

>> No.43213075 [DELETED] 

>OMG GUYS PERFUME ARE GOING TO BE PERFORMING AT KOUHAKU THEIR SO BIG GUYS
>GUYS JAPAN JUST VOTED NUMBER 1 IN THE OBAA SANS YOU'D MOST LIKE TO GIVE A JACKET TO AND WALK TO THE BUS STOP.

>> No.43213094

>OMG GUYS PERFUME ARE GOING TO BE PERFORMING AT KOUHAKU THEY'RE SO BIG GUYS
>GUYS JAPAN JUST VOTED PERFUME NUMBER 1 IN THE OBAA SANS YOU'D MOST LIKE TO GIVE A JACKET TO AND WALK TO THE BUS STOP.

>> No.43213099

>>43213020
why are bug men like this?

>> No.43213112

>>43213099
bug men as in basedboys or bug men as in Asians?

>> No.43213215

>>43213020
>perfume won over 10 years ago and hasn't really achieved much since which is equally as sad.
read previous post
>the various collabs and ventures they've done doesn't increase their album sales.
care to back that up with proof?
>no one in Japan remembers any of their songs used in movies. It had no cultural impact and is just a pay cheque.
people in LA were literally begging them to do a concert when they went to the premiere
>They haven't had one that left an impression since Polyrhythem.
personal opinions don't count im afraid especially from someone who can't spell
>I visited Levi's main branch in Shibuya and it was empty.
kek try harder at this point
>Wheres the latest season of masked singer?
you should unironically sudoku if you care about this

>> No.43213254

>>43211923
YouTube plays count towards album sales, you illiterate retard.
Comparing YouTube to TikTok is a false equivalence. People watch hundreds of TikTok videos per day because they're so short, so of course each one has less cultural impact than a full music video.

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>>43213254
anon don't bother just let him think he won this

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>>43213215
Perfume's end
I can see their sales circling around the draaaaaaaaaaaain.

You need to return to the Perfume discord where none accomplishments like shilling Levi's means something.
>people in LA were literally begging them to do a concert when they went to the premiere
If you're talking about cars 2, that's hilarious. The town out was less than a dozen by all accounts. Perfume were shocked simply by the existance of fans. They dipped their toes in touring asia and made enough money to try out europe. Extremely cautious baby steps. After WT3 they slowly started to reduce their shift into the west.
Didn't you just cry at me for speaking about their western expedition.
It was obvious from the start you were projecting.

3rd worlder san, please just go back to Perfume Discord and stop trying to rebirth Perfume general you sad fucking secondary.

PS.
>personal opinions don't count im afraid especially from someone who can't spell
My shitty spelling has been in these threads since the very first. You can either counter my point or you can't.
You literally can't though.
Japan cultrually doesn't give a fuck about Perfume. I have met exactly 1 perfume fan, he said "yeah they're aight, I like the one with long hair. which do you like?" That was the most enthusiastic Japanese Perfume fan I have met in person. I surveyed about a thousand junior high school students about their favorite musicians and none of them listed perfume.

I have met more Soutaiseiriron fans then Perfume fans.
Plasma sold like hot shit. It's over.

>> No.43213327

>>43213254
>Youtube plays count towards album sales.
Kek. Source.

>> No.43213369

>>43213327
>61 seconds between posts
are you samefagging in some lame attempt to trick people into thinking that there are multiple people with your retarded opinions?
how about you simply Google it, if you actually want to find out how album sales are calculated in the streaming era?

>> No.43213380

>>43213369
No I'm not pretending to be diffrent people. Where are my posts responding to either myself or the same post twice? Come on now dog.

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>>43213320
>I invested so much time into asking people if they like the group that I think is failing
>stop trying to rebirth perfume general
sorry to say but you're doing a good job at it

I actually like you thanks for making my shift less boring but you're an obvious bait at this point and you keep shifting your original point
>3rd world san
did a foreigner fuck your trad jap waifu or are you just desperate for comeback insults?

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>>43213490
>sorry to say but you're doing a good job at it
The moment I stop posting, this thread becomes dead as shit again.

My point shifts because your point also shifts. You seem to think you have a through line but you simply don't. That or you think the point you're making is far better than it is.

I'm shifting my point to address the points you're making.

In order these are the points I'm making, all are true and none contradict each other.

>Perfume had a bad approach to reaching new fans and if they doubled down on trying to break it into the west it would still fail.
>The only way Perfume could have succeeded was to interact with their fans far more (literally as they're doing now, but better)
>I do not care about their ambitions in the west
>Perfume has become irrelevent
>Perfume's sales are tanking
>People do not care about Perfume in Japan let alone in the west
>Perfume do collaborations and promotions but it draws very little attention and the frequency at which they do it is infrequent and not really a point in their favor

What people in Japan know of Perfume is Chocolate Disco and Polyrhythem. No one is aware of anything else. People see them in Kouhaku once a year and marvel at how they're still going. I'm sure the Japanese respect that about them but that is about it.

In truth, Perfume have a loyal fan base but their sales are still sinking and that fanbase is still shrinking. Remember the population of Japan is huge. Yet their sales still look the way they do.
They play to about a total of 100,000 people on a tour. With the population of Japan, even with their shrinking fanbase it seems reasonable to accomplish that and while it shows that they're at least sustainable (again which is why I'm saying if both you and they are okay with their popularity falling constantly then there is nothing to say) but it still doesn't prove that they're maintaining their relevance.

Perfume had the cultrual clout to have been better then they are. That's my final word on the topic. They could have been much better. Their team lacked the boldness and creative drive to be anything more than a source of revenue.

They're a product and their product is the left overs from artists that stopped caring about perfume a long time ago.

>> No.43214438

>>43212335
>Perfume will never visit brazil.
Actually it was not me that said this so Gay Grants you can rest for now

>> No.43214467

>>43213320
People don't buy music nowadays dumbass

>> No.43214628

>>43214467
Just looked up arashis sales and the are completely stable.
Next you will say people don't use fax machines.

>> No.43215450

>>43214628
The only people who buy music are old people so if his sales didn't change at all is probably because the same old fans keep buying...

>> No.43216860

>>43215450
Kenshi is a new singer and his last album sold a million and half.

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yukaaa

>> No.43221480

>>43221256
I want to see her abs

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>>43221256

>> No.43223873

>>43222201
where is the Yuka AI nsfw??

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>>43223873
You get the nsfw Ai yuka when you fix this damn gen

>> No.43226140

>>43222201
Looks nothing like her...

>> No.43226505

>>43213665
My dear friend, your words are like a broken record. You keep repeating the same tired points without offering any fresh perspective. You claim that Perfume has become irrelevant and their sales are tanking, yet you provide no concrete evidence to support your claims. And while it's true that their fan base may be shrinking, they still manage to sell out tours and maintain a loyal following.

Your criticisms of Perfume's team lack creativity and boldness are baseless and unconstructive. Perhaps if you spent less time tearing down others and more time focusing on your own shortcomings, you wouldn't be so quick to throw stones.

In short, your argument lacks substance and originality. It's time to retire your tired criticisms and come up with something new. Otherwise, you're just another voice in the void, shouting into the wind.

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>>43226505
>A survey of 1000 students showed zero students interested in perfume.
>Plasma sold half the records of Future pop and every new album sells 50k+ less than the previous.
>100,000 ticket sales once per album release isn't that impressive in a country of 100 million people.

What other points need to be made?
You're the one acting smug and assured.
What is there to be smug about with perfume?
I'm sure the perfume staff weren't smug when Plasma sold half the records of future pop.
I'm sure the perfume staff weren't smug when they saw their advertising budget got slashed to nothing.
I'm sure the perfume fans aren't smug about the disappearance of long time fans and the shrinking pool of people interested in perfume.
There are people I know for a fact are autistic pedophiles chumming along side tumblr faggots on the perfume discord. I thought it was odd until I saw them actually make fake ironic statements about their attraction to Kashiyuka in ther gravure photos only for the perfume discord to not react. 5 years ago that shit wouldn't fly, any specialization of perfume got you kicked, now you fan sexualize a minor and it's a ok. but the fan base has hemorrhaged so much that they will put up with anything just as long as you fellate their ego.
What is there to be smug about with the state of perfume?
Which of their competitors are they beating?
There's nothing else to say, you make weak points about Perfume doing typical celebrity shit. It's a really poorly disguised cope. You're the embodiment of the crying wojack with a smug mask.
Me on the other hand? What could you possibly accuse me of seething over? I simply stated Perfume should have taken a better approach with fan outreach if they were aiming to expand their fan base. You turned it into a dick measuring contest about perfumes achievements as if it changes the reality of their slowly sinking ship.
Now you talk about how I should turn the microscope on myself like you know anything about me or how I think.
It's all a cope. A coping mechanism of a smooth brained cretin.

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>>43226505
>A survey of 1000 students showed zero students interested in perfume.
>Plasma sold half the records of Future pop and every new album sells 50k+ less than the previous.
>100,000 ticket sales once per album release isn't that impressive in a country of 100 million people.

What other points need to be made?
You're the one acting smug and assured.
What is there to be smug about with perfume?
I'm sure the perfume staff weren't smug when Plasma sold half the records of future pop.
I'm sure the perfume staff weren't smug when they saw their advertising budget got slashed to nothing.
I'm sure the perfume fans aren't smug about the disappearance of long time fans and the shrinking pool of people interested in perfume.
There are people I know for a fact are autistic pedophiles chumming along side tumblr faggots on the perfume discord. I thought it was odd until I saw them actually make fake ironic statements about their attraction to Kashiyuka in ther gravure photos only for the perfume discord to not react. 5 years ago that shit wouldn't fly, any sexualization of perfume got you kicked, now you can sexualize a minor and it's a ok. but the fan base has hemorrhaged so much that they will put up with anything just as long as you fellate their ego.
What is there to be smug about with the state of perfume?
Which of their competitors are they beating?
There's nothing else to say, you make weak points about Perfume doing typical celebrity shit. It's a really poorly disguised cope. You're the embodiment of the crying wojack with a smug mask.
Me on the other hand? What could you possibly accuse me of seething over? I simply stated Perfume should have taken a better approach with fan outreach if they were aiming to expand their fan base. You turned it into a dick measuring contest about perfumes achievements as if it changes the reality of their slowly sinking ship.
Now you talk about how I should turn the microscope on myself like you know anything about me or how I think.
It's all a cope. A coping mechanism of a smooth cretin.

>> No.43227004

>>43226874
I must admit, your analysis of the current state of Perfume is quite impressive. However, I cannot help but notice that your points lack the sophistication and acumen that would be expected of a true intellectual. Allow me to enlighten you with a few additional points:

Despite the lack of interest in Perfume among the surveyed students, their music continues to be a cultural phenomenon in Japan and beyond, with loyal fans who appreciate the unique blend of Jpop and electronic music that only Perfume can deliver.
Yes, Plasma may have sold half the records of Future Pop, but let us not forget that every artist has their ups and downs. It is no secret that Perfume has been in the music industry for over 15 years, a remarkable feat in and of itself.
As for the shrinking pool of people interested in Perfume, I must ask: compared to what? The music industry is notoriously fickle, and countless artists have come and gone in the time that Perfume has been active. The fact that they continue to maintain a dedicated fanbase speaks volumes about the quality of their music and their ability to adapt to changing times.
Your accusations of immoral behavior among Perfume fans are both unfounded and distasteful.
In conclusion, I must say that your attempt at a roast falls short of the mark. If you truly wish to engage in intellectual discourse, I suggest you do so with an open mind and a willingness to learn from others. As for Perfume, their music speaks for itself, and they will continue to thrive in the face of adversity.

>> No.43227086

>>43227004
>The fact that sonic the hedgehog continue sto maintain a dedicated fanbase speaks volumes about the quality of his games and their ability to adapt to changing times.

>> No.43230272

general public lost interest in perfume after 2 underwhelming albums in cosmic explorer and future pop. which is shame since plasma is actually a good album

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>>43230272
exactly, I own a copy and its sad to see nocchi sell it so poorly.
It's due to people tuning out after a LONG period of mediocrity and their advertising budget being practically zero.

I would be my life that is the reason they finally started social media.

Either way, I don't care. I hate Perfume,but I love Nocchi

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L+ Ratio+ Tomoe better

>> No.43237188

>>43236227
based

>> No.43237912

>>43236227
ugly + irrelevant

>> No.43240274

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r09MQLS5OI

>> No.43242247

>>43240274
Nocchi doesn't look good here

>> No.43242623
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>>43242247
only a dillusional yuka fag could look at the 3 of them and single out Nocchi for not looking good. That or you're conceeding that not looking good is the defualt state of the other girls and that not looking her best is out of the ordinary for Nocchi.

>> No.43243970

>>43230272
I actually liked cosmic explorer it sounded like level 3 to me is that a bad thing? I never liked the game album and other mainstream/popular songs they did (too jpop like)

On another note, autistic san are you here? I want my work hours to go by faster. Tell me how you spent so much time trying to prove that Perfume is irrelevant again

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>>43237912
Irrelevant yes but ugly never
Also who is you talking about nigga? look at your own mirror ugly ass fat ass mf

>> No.43244340

>>43242247
I got hard when i saw how she was sitting like damn that girl so fine, it's like she was wanting some dick

>> No.43244356

>>43240274
Nocchi fav anime being evangelion is based asf

>> No.43244649

>>43242623
Cope, Nocchi fag. Yuka still has fabulous hair meanwhile Nocchi looks like she balding kek

>> No.43244661

>>43243970
Saying you like cosmic explorer more than game is a really shitty troll. Use better bait.

>> No.43244680

>>43244649
Sorry I don't speak to the dillusional. Besides, there isn't a single Nocchi fag who cares about how Nocchi looks. Unlike Yuka Coomers who like her purely for superfical reasons. Yuka is far too reserved for her to be someones legitimate favorite without it being due to cooming to pictures of her from 2011 or because they're an autistic sperg who projects what they want on her.

>> No.43244727

>>43244661
why? this isn't the 2000s anymore styles change. The newest stuff are less akihabara garbage and more Apple-like commercial music

>> No.43244747

>>43244727
I was never Akihabara.
Not going to get into it, it's not a position that requires dismantaling and you're just baiting.
Should I explain why chocolate tastes better than shit?

>> No.43244838

>>43244747
you can have your own opinion on it im just saying I love the new flow more than the hyperactive shit they had before (in all fairness at least game had good design but shit like sweet donuts was just generic jpop crap tier h!p throws out every month)

>> No.43244863

>>43244838
Cool. Didn't ask.
Sweet Donuts has a more complex and engaging instrumental than usual idol crap. Don't care what you think. If you're inable to distinguish the difference, why would I waste time talking about it with you?

>> No.43244890

>>43244863
even if you were right the music video is so generic that it leaves me to believe it was
they perfected the aesthetic since level 3 and are no longer catering to weebs and its driving you nuts

>> No.43244930

>>43244890
I like Plasma. Quality of music is all that concerns me. Aethetically, Sweet Refrain was their best look. I love how they looked in Flash and Mugen Mirai too. None of that changes the fact that Cosmic Explorer is their worst album.

>> No.43244959

>>43244930
out of curiosity which song from cosmic explorer did you not like or was it everything?
I thought miracle worker was pretty good. It's just hard to compare because they switch up the styles and experiment often

>> No.43244997

>>43244959
Literally everything was a disaster in that album. Only listenable tracks are Tokimeki Lights which is about as good as the single rendition and Baby Face which is maybe a 5 out of 10 song. Baby Face was then made redundent when Chorairin came out and made it redundent by sounding so simular but far better.

>> No.43245073
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>>43244997
yeah ok buddy and you said I was the troll
the cat is finally out of the bag imagine not liking every track yatsutaka nakata produces
tokimeki lights was a typical jap drama intro music and I completely understand why you would like it

>> No.43245101

>>43245073
No one is going to side with you on that. Cosmic Explorer is ass and was a huge disservice to Perfume. That they followed it up with Future Pop probably did so much harm on top of that.

>> No.43245188

>>43245101
why was it ass you're just not explaining it to me other than your preference for anime-like songs

>> No.43245263

>>43245188
I don't watch anime btw. Haven't since I was 19. That was 9 years ago.
I really have no idea what the fuck you mean by anime music, all the anime music I've heard my friend sing in Karaoke is J-punk garbage.

I can't explain why the tracks were shit over text. Just long interludes of WOAH WOAH and OOOO OOOO.
How can you size any of that shit up to a song like GAME or Secret Secret, Night Flight or Edge, Fushizen na girl or Spice, Clockwork or Handy man.

>> No.43245352

>>43245263
well what did you think of polygon wave? I thought it was very catchy and true to the previous albums

>> No.43245359

>>43244680
>there isn't a single Nocchi fag who cares about how Nocchi looks
Well aware of that, you niggas got low standards. And if all you see in Yuka is coomer bait then that is a you problem, don't project your fantasies about her on me

>> No.43245375

>>43245359
It is a good song. I already said I like Plasma.

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>>43244680
Yuka, in addition to being a hot woman, is also humble, respectful, smart and treats all fans well, whether they are Japanese or not. You mfs cum for Nocchi just because she's at home playing video games and doesn't know how to interact with humans just like you weirdos.
Also stop writing these long shitty arguments that nobody reads you narcissistic mf.

>> No.43245474

>>43245359
>>43245460
both of you take your meds now

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>>43245460
>Yuka
>being a hot woman,

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>>43245494
Everybody knows you beat your meat to Kashiyuka legs, you don't need to pretend nothing...

>> No.43245550

>>43245460
Nah the arguments are great, thread is actually getting some activity

>> No.43245559

>>43245539
I have extremely low standards.

>> No.43245640

Yuka being wholesome as usual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqDJhh5bZRM

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>>43245539
>Legs

>> No.43245804

>>43245539
i must say i have never done it to yuka before, but a-chan? numerous times

>> No.43245825

>>43245804
She got great boobs I don't blame you, I miss the times when she wasn't a fucking skeleton...

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>>43245804
>>43245825
Why do people feel the need to speak about their masturbaition habits on a public forum?

>> No.43247706

>>43245918
Make Nocchi Ai hentai

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>>43245359
the irony of a yukafag talking about low standards

>> No.43248463

anyone going to london to see them
im honestly scared meeting one of you autistic fucks

>> No.43249087

>>43248463
even if you meet someone from here, they aren't going to act like how they do on 4chan.

>> No.43249173

>>43249087
Speak for yourself, I’ll be stroking the entire time.

>> No.43249532

>>43249173
stroking your dick?

>> No.43249591

>>43249532
Unless you want to do each others.

>> No.43251114

>>43249591
that's gay, homophobic A-chan will not approve of that

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good morning fags

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Testing out different AI models, I get varying degrees of success with creating Perfume images. Some models don't like certain members and fuck them up time and time again. This model gets nocchi right most of the time, gets A-chan right just under half the time and can not make Yuka without fucking her up.

>> No.43253470

>>43253244
how are you doing that?

>> No.43253484

>>43253244
I'm gonna ask one more time, where is the AI Perfume nsfw?

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>>43253484

>> No.43253712

>>43253470
stable diffusion. Google it.

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Perfume discord moderation when #perfume is not perfume related for 5 seconds:
i'm glad i left that shit btw

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>>43253814
Perfume Discord is a filter for anyone who is even a slight bit sane. Hence why could never stand it.
The faggot who recreated this general did it purely out of attention. he would constantly hit me up for attention. I would respond but won't take the effort to carry the conversation. Despite his prompts for attention I would only respond to messages with substance and yet the messages didn't end.

Upon seeing how fucking shit his thread was I made fun of the faggots here who without help, couldn't strike up a single discussion and he blocked me. He's now on Perfume general lining up with all the other faggots for attention rations.

It's the zoomer way.
This is the same with Cringey kun. If you guys remember him. Holy shit that is a story with quite some length. Faggot always wanted me to feature him somehow in one of my videos but he never said anything with any value.

Saddest thing is there are far more than just those two. There's a rogues gallery of genuinely autistic troglodyts that funnel down to Perfume Discord.
Just take this lesson away. The second anyone uses the words "gatekeep", "elitist" or "snob", you're dealing with an NPC.

>> No.43254061

>>43253977
I only created this shit because of you, I thought you missed this place to make videos so I did it again. I was only trying to talk to you because I was new in the community, I wanted to meet people and I identified with you, I saw how people in the community were treating you, I saw myself in the same way when I am sincere or critical about something and ppl exclude me. I finally blocked you because I saw the real shit you are, narcissistic motherfucker who thinks he's smarter than everyone else, talks a lot but doesn't say anything. I know the people there aren't the best thing in the world but a bunch of normalfag are still better than an autistic like you, have a nice day Gay Grants.

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>>43254061
The only reason anything I said rubbed you the wrong way is beause you lack self awareness and are unable to take even minor criticism. The thread was clearly impotent, just as it was when the threads died. The people that made this place great are gone.

Everything I said was right, you don't understand the meaning of what I'm saying because you're an ESL or because you're purposely ignoring the meaning. Simply no other explaination.
You wanted to meet people is honestly a pretty darn weak explaination for your behavior seeing as you shy away from any form of communication above shit posting and memes.

People only resort to calling me a narssasist when they have no other means to respond. But what do you call a person who uses people as nothing more than a fleshlight for their social needs?
What do you call a person who uses Perfume as just another medium to get attention.

I was anonymous on Perfume Gen for years, nothing I do is to feed my ego. Everything is for Perfume. Even now when I don't like them. I make a 20 minute sperg fest talking about Nocchi's history and character because it's frankly what perfume deserves and what the community that once existed deserved.

They deserve earnest discussion on Perfume, they deserve information that is otherwise obscured by time and language barrier.
None of this is for my ego. I've made contributions to the community under multiple monikers. I went years before I even used my voice in my videos, I didn't show my face until I did the live stream with Perfume 444. I've never taken ownership of the culture that came up from here.

Call me a narcissist. You don't have a spec of evidence for that other than getting your feelings hurt. As soon as you were upset you villianized me in a nano second. That only illustrates your character. Never treated you as a groupie, always treated you as a person.
You're unable to take critism so now you must suffer the depths of Perfume discord where you will live a a groupie of the discord mods who for whatever reason take ownership of the entire fandom.

I have always known to never trust a Brazilian or a Russian. You people a mockery of humanity.

Nocchi looks cute in this one.

Sincerely, earnestly, unironically,

Gay Grants

>> No.43254705

hey gay grants where the fuck is chandelier house episode 6

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>>43254170
Again your narcissist ass writing those long ass paragraphs lol, i'm not reading that shit thank you.

>> No.43257627

if perfume wants people to care about perfume closet they should pose in bra and panties in my opinion

>> No.43257987

>>43257627
No one asked, no one cares.
Say something original.
>Perfume should do x erotic material
got boring 5 years ago

>> No.43258310

>>43257987
cry about it faggot.

>> No.43259069

>>43254170
can someone explain the lore about this? what are the videos and livestreams you've made? what was the community like before? How does any of this relate with discord and what is "the perfume discord"? Why is that guy and the other one (who refuses to read his posts) so turned off by each other?
EXPLAIN IT TO ME LIKE IM AN 8 YEAR OLD

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>>43259069
Glad you asked.
Basically the Perfume fandom in the west all stated with
>Perfume City
>Perfume fan site was created for the western fans, Perfume fans flock to it
>Perfume city is great but many Perfume fans were 4chan users and one day old fags decided what would it be like if we made a Pefume thread
>Perfume gen is created after people decided its good
>Perfume city dies eventually and the forums are nuked
>Perfume communities communal hub is no longer
>Guy create Perfume Discord as a new communal hub
>cool guy who does minimal moderating
>Guy eventually gave very little explaination for why he was quitting but set a vote for who would be the new mod
>new mod was a pretty big faggot but people got on with him
>Guy was even new to the community but was pretty passionate
>Guy becomes new mod along with another guy
>First guy IMMEDATELY becomes draconian and purges people critical of perfumes latest album
>Purges people for defending the position of sexualizing perfume (shit like saying yuka has nice legs will get you a warning and saying anything but sorry massa would get you ban)
>Purges most people from Perfume General save a couple who fall in line.
>Over the years the perfume fandom shrank and I watched as few newcomers that arrived were practically ignored while Perfume Discord became a hug box for a small set of people who basically used the discord as the personal friends group rather than a fan discord.
>Other mod I mentioned gave up his mod possition and first mod made one of his friends a mod
>One day they decided to make the Downloads channel private and set the requirements to get access to it to being on the server for 3 months and having a member of standing vouch for you.
>I personally spoke out against this and I was finally banned.
>I wasn't banned sooner because I have a youtube channel with a couple hundred subs so I could get away with more.

That's the Perfume Discord and Perfume community in general.

>> No.43259327

>>43259069
>>43259312
Videos and Live streams
>have channel called Fray Grants
>Make videos about Nocchi
>made a series of text to speech documenting the very early threads in /Perfume/ General before the place went to shit
>made a couple of video essays on perfume because I'm a true sperg
>On chrismas I did a stream with Perfume444

I do not recommend, my channel is pretty trash and my only good videos are the one about nocchi having no friends and the one about music videos. Those I stand by. Might find some funny memes though.

>> No.43259353

>>43259069
>>43259312
>>43259327
What was the community like before
>Community was extremely active and mostly held together by singaporian and Japanese members who spent a lot of time translating works to English for the west.
>Perfume community had a lot of old fags that were active on really old Jmusic forums and got a second wave of fans due to Kyary becoming popular and late Baby Metal.
>Fanbase was just really solid, the only thing that mattered in the slightest was Perfume and who you were and what you were like was irrelevant.
>The tumblr segment of the community was really cliquish and egotistical but at this time, they put in the work and again, no one cared what you were like, just that you like perfume.
>Zoomers got older, internet culture changed, discord was created and Perfume themselves just became a meme within a fandom that was more about the people in it than the thing that brought them together.
>Perfume general is a footnote in the Perfume fandom because it create a few memes that have limited reach and popularized memes from japan that were either ignored or went unnoticed.
A few examples
>that feel when no nocchi GF
>Yuka pits (actually started off funny, but the meme lack variety and the same 8 year old pictures are used for the meme so it's kinda of a dead one)
>Yuka is thicc
>Yuka is a slut
>Nocchi has autism
>A-chan is homophobic (basically tumblr fags got a little worried A-chan was homophobic because of some comments I don't remember the source on and we turned it into a meme)
>gorillA~chan (from Japan)
>Waifu wars

I tried to spread the meme
>I love Perfume but I hate A~chan
which I discovered either one guy spamming or multiple guys repeating it over and over in a Pefume thread on 2ch.
Meme had potential but never caught on.

>> No.43259359

>>43259312
thanks for explaining anon
I only recently realized perfume city is nuked that sucks, whats the reason for it closing down?
pretty sad to hear about the state of the fandom. I can see similarities with the old snsd fandoms.
>inb4 comparing kpop to jpop
just an opinion.
power abusing mods is the reason why 4chan gens are a thing. Was the guy you were talking to the Discord mod? If so I hate him too.
Are you talking about perfume in your videos? Hope you don't mind an autist subscribing to it

>> No.43259378

>>43259069
>>43259312
>>43259327
>>43259327
>>43259353
Me and that guy.
Guy was a subscriber to my channel. He added me on Discord and we would talk from time to time. I'd give him the lowdown on the Perfume fandom history and lore, we tried to play ttrpgs together but our timezones made it difficult and I helped him study Japanese.
He flipped out and blocked me because said quote
>Dear god, you guys managed to suppass how shit I expected this thread to be upon returning.
This is ridiculous and you should be ashamed. >This thread is a disservice to Perfume and bares no resemblance to the Perfume Gen of old.

He calls me a narcassist but his idea of a narcassist is someone who effort posts. I'm happy to shit post and spout memes but I don't want it to make up the entirety of the threads. For some reason,saying something frankly without irony is narcassistic.

I'd ask he provided some context to what makes me a narcassist but he won't read this and even if he did he'd just ignore it because he's impotent and not really capable of joining in serious discussion as is often the case with zoomers.

Ironically, the one thing I hate about him is that he got negetive feedback once from me and flipped his shit and migrated to Perfume Discord. The fact that he was a typical ADHD zoomer wasn't much of an issue to me seeing as I teach zoomers from 15 to 3 years old and I'm used to dealing with hyper active short attention span people.

>> No.43259396

>>43259359
I exclusively talk about Perfume. It's a perfume channel.
No he's not a mod and I don't think he has much chance of becoming one. You got to be in the mods inner circle to have the hopes of being a mod.

Frackly the issues with the Discord have MOSTLY gone seeing as the pool of fans is so low that they can't be as ban happy. However, the place is still not really about perfume so much as it is about the people there using perfume as a medium to socialize. Which isn't so much of an issue, I just wish people had the balls to just become friends, keep the discord about perfume and then chit chat about some place else instead of making it their main lobby for all their online socialization if you get what I mean.

>> No.43259411

>>43259359
>>43259396
Also Admin of Perfume city went MIA and the mods closed the forum. Admin is no where to been seen. The site is still up but the forums are down. That's what I heard anyway.

>> No.43259513

>>43259411
I'm watching one of your perfume444 videos kek'd so much thanks for that

>> No.43259535

oddly enough, fray grants, you would fit right in with the discord cucks and reddit posters just based off this post alone
>>43257987
basically saying "nooo stop lewding my precious perfume queens!!!!"

soft. and not even that, but any actual discussions about an album, concert, or even old memes aren't oRiGiNaL enough for you either. seems like you and your former autist friend just want to ruin a potential return of perfume general. sad.

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>>43259535
>basically saying "nooo stop lewding my precious perfume queens!!!!"
What I'm saying is more nuanced than that. Anyone else wanna tell him?

>> No.43259628

>>43259552
are you going to be in o2 in june and wanna hang? I promise im not a psycho

>> No.43259688

>>43259628
No, I decided I'm not flying back to the UK for it.
Worried it would disappoint.

>> No.43259902

>>43259688
I can document the experience here

>> No.43260330

>>43259688
just a heads up I think you should back up your channel on Odysee in case plebbit or discord trannies try to nuke you

>> No.43260649

>>43260330
Thanks for the advice but I very much doubt they care enough to do that or have the capacity to do a targeted flagging campain on my channel.

These guys aren't cartoon villians like trannies are, they're just not very intelligent. Based Mirai Museum once sumarized it that way and it's an apt summary. Meanwhile any explaintion I give inevitably ends up at 8 paragraphs long.

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>> No.43264714

>>43263225
I was nocchifag then became A-chanfag and now I'm yukafag yeah baby I want to fuck that 34 asian milf so bad...

>> No.43264742

>>43264714
So your taste devolved over time.
Someone has got to do a study on Yuka fags and what makes people simple over busted up goods.
Yuka is like a can of peeled tomatos that is dented and half off.

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>>43264714
I wonder if the Japanese fandom or Perfume itself knows a little bit about the shit western fans do.

>> No.43264778

>>43264742
Can of peeled tomatoes is wild .

>> No.43264830

>>43264742
>what makes people simple over busted up goods.
* Good sized small breasts
*Legs (no further explanation needed)
*cute mouth
*Horniest member
*Hugs and touch fans
Do I need to list more??

>> No.43264894

>>43264830
Christ, I like to lewd them once in awhile but if all you care about is looks and sex appeal why even bother being a Perfume fan? Go watch JAV or something

>> No.43265576

>>43264830
>Good sized small breasts
Yeah okay
>Legs (no further explanation needed)
Rip nice legs 2018. Her legs don't stand out and haven't for a long time
>cute mouth
Rip 2016 her mouth doesn't really look distinctive now that her face has started rapid aging
>Horniest member
So memes?
>Hugs and touch fans
Even Nocchi does, they just follow A-chans lead who is tactile.

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Do you own any Perfume merch?

>> No.43267218

>>43267069
yes.
do you?

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>>43267218
Yes, t shirts, posters and a Blu-Ray.

>> No.43269094

>>43267920
give me one plz

>> No.43270716

>>43267069
no, just actual perfume

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>>43267069
I cant get my hands on the level 3 vinyl without spending twice the pta amount because nip spergs keep buying it all can I for once buy something decent without filling the pockets of scalpers?

>> No.43273552

>>43272566
Level 3 vinyl was released in the west too. You snooze you lose loser. Besides apart from the collectors value, the sound production quality on Level 3 isn't crisp enough to really make vinyl a better listening experience.

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They’re on Sonic Mania whatever that is. Unrelated to the game, I assume.

>> No.43275223

>>43275094
Japanese Coachella.
They usually do fantastic festival performances but I still won't go.

I won't go to a perfume live that doesn't meet the following conditions.
>Venue capacity is fewer than 8k
>They will perform for longer than an hour.
>I don't have to get on a plane to see them.

>> No.43276152

>>43275094
>Sonic Mania
read nigga read

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>>43276152

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>>43276600
oh . . .

>> No.43278455

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWoOwTdiuwU

>> No.43281353

>>43273552
how dare you talk to me like that and flex your understanding of sound production
not like I asked about it anyway if you have one to sell to me just give it
fucking loser

>> No.43285241

bro, wake up. It's 2011.
What? Kashiyuka? Ugly?
I don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.43288598

i need nocchi look-alike gf

>> No.43289047

Nocchi is probably very submissive and vanilla, missionary is the way to go

>> No.43289094

>>43195746
you mentioned 1 out 3 important traits for women (the others being her body and one of your preference)., obvs people will like her for being pretty

>> No.43293691

>>43289047
stop

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>>43297196

>> No.43299613

>>43297196
Why A-chan keeps wearing those braids baka...

>> No.43300369

>>43299613
It's cute tho.

>> No.43302626

>>43299613
yeah they are awful. but at least she uses different hairstyles unlike the other 2

>> No.43304074

I thought this would be a thread about perfumes or colognes.
Is there a board or thread in 4chan about this topic or grooming in general?

>> No.43305006

>>43304074
>/lgbt/

>> No.43305205

So in terms of a tier list, how would you guys rate each release?

>> No.43305289

will I get kicked out of the concert if I bring my camera? I really want to document the experience for you guys

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>>43305205

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>>43305205
Now you know

>> No.43307110

>>43306085
I agree with everything except baby cruising love, overrated asf. Annoying ass chorus is too slow, long and also the only perfume song i hate the vocal effect.

>> No.43307755

>>43307110
too much kashiyuka highlight on it too nobody wants to see that

>> No.43311106

Any one putting Linear motor girl any higher than bottom is baiting. Trash song

>> No.43311176

>>43306085
>The bet song
>Handy Man
based

>> No.43313679

>>43311106
>>43307110
Average CE retards

>> No.43313691

>>43313679
>anything I disagree with is a CE retard!!1

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I had to listen all of the songs and i need to say, the majority of Perfume songs sound the same.

>> No.43316826

>>43316107
Must be hard to listen with out ears.

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>>43121308
bump

>> No.43322591

>>43322369
ill bump nocchi

>> No.43328204

>>43322369
Bump

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>>43328302
>feet
Oh...happy day.

>> No.43332562

Saging because it's for the best.
I don't want to be one of those generals that constantly boomp just to stop the general from 404ing.
Like it was at one time debated whether Perfume should even become a general and deciding to become one was definitely a bad choice and the start of the end.

If you want to talk about Perfume on /jp/ does it have to be in Perfume gen? Can't you just make a thread about perfume and enjoy it for however long its active?
I suggest when conversation dies like this, we let the thread die, and then create a new one when we have something to say.

>> No.43333835

@ old perfume gen fags

pls come back ;_;

>> No.43334109

>>43333835
We are here. I went to World Tour 3rd at the Eventing Apollo, and I frequented the old generals.

>> No.43334119

>>43334109
Eventim Apollo

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>> No.43345935

>>43339873
Imagine this is what you see in your bed after finishing a long day at the job.

>> No.43345944

>>43345935
Imagine this is what you see after you finish...

>> No.43347710

>>43345944
I'd be a little concerned

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>>43124233
pretty much, yes.

>>43183732
it's not bad, but my main complaint is that it doesn't fit the flow of level 3.

>>43199362
indeed, it feels like the old gen threads, that made it to around #100.

>>43212139
they didn't even need a push, they just needed more accommodation for weebs instead of ignoring our existence.

>>43244863
it also has unironically profound lyrics.

>>43333835
I went to the shows in NYC, and it was lit, as the zoomers say. Amazing energy, and it felt a little surreal to set my eyes upon them irl. Good mix of new & old tracks.

>> No.43351497

>>43349801
Yeah I agree it didn't fit with the vibe of Level3.
Also - good for you that you got to see them live, I hope I can catch a Perfume live before it's too late, their shows are amazing

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weird outfits

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https://twitter.com/Perfume_Staff/status/1652502878093983746

A-chan's boobs look massive

>> No.43361537

>>43358596
Looks filter af.

>> No.43367844

>>43361537
still gorgeous

>> No.43370835

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLv9pGy-dSg

what do anons think is the best perfume live show?

>> No.43370882

>>43370835
Does it say which show this was in particular? I was at Saitama Super Arena.

>> No.43376513

>>43351497
yes, their live shows are where it all comes together for peak performance.
when listening to their albums, I mostly play them straight; the one exception is moving MnM to the end of level 3. I find that 1mm & party maker blend together just fine, and MnM would've been much better as a hidden/bonus track.

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God why can't I just get this to fucking work. It's so fucking close.

>> No.43385818

oh no

>> No.43396164

Havent been here in 4+ years lads, thought Perfume threads died off?

Anyways I havent been keeping up with A~chan and the other two since CE. Are future pop and Plasma worth buying?

Also if you’re a Yuka fag dont reply to my post. I fucking mean it.

>> No.43396483

>>43396164
Future Pop no, Plasma yes, their album is a long time

and this thread is barely alive

>> No.43396488

>>43396483
*their best album in a long time

I'm retarded

>> No.43397667

>>43396483
Thanks bro I’ll check it out. Did you listen to Capsules latest album? came out a few months ago I think

>> No.43398864

>>43397667
Goofy ahh nigga mf.

>> No.43399999

>>43398864
English please

>> No.43403229

>>43398864
retard

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>> No.43412058

ok since you're all retards and ignored my last question I'll ask again. can I bring a camera to the concert or is that now allowed

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>>43259312
Tldr, Dork World Wars

>> No.43417541

>>43412058
I don't know nigga, probably yes since it's not Japan

>> No.43420229

I want to spend a significant portion of my daily life making out with Yuka's anus.

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>>43420229
no

>> No.43423765

>>43416071
What's funny?

>> No.43424629

>>43135667
why do they lipsync?

>> No.43425588

>>43412058
They asked for no photos at world tour 3rd so I expect it will be like that again

>> No.43431282

>>43425588
what, are they gonna take my phone because it has a camera? god forbid I dare to take feet pics in 4k after paying for pta membership and tickets

>> No.43439254

>>43431282
if you get caught nocchi is gonna take your phone then shove it up your ass

>> No.43442178

A whole general for Perfume? That's pretty cool. What did you anons think of Plasma?
Also
>A-chan=>Nocchi>>>>>Kashiyuka

>> No.43442186

Why does no one appreciate Yuka?

>> No.43442222

>>43442178
Plasma was a good album, it ranks around 4 or 5 for me
>>43442186
I dunno, people just don't like grannies I guess

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I will keep trying until I get the perfect image.

>> No.43442621
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>> No.43442688

>>43442432
I do commend the effort, anon

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perky!

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Found some success, got a few good ones in anime style.

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>> No.43445154

>>43445086
>>43445101
Can't even tell who that's supposed to be.

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I will now move on to this pose.
Already encountering the same issues.

>> No.43445274

>>43445154
You might be in the wrong place if you don't know Yuka.

>> No.43445492

>>43445274
Your brain is trying way too hard to make it work. It looks nothing like her.

>> No.43446222

>>43442186
She peaked in 1mm, whereas Nocchi has only gotten stronger.

>> No.43447262

>>43446222
triangle era nocchi was best nocchi and i won't have it any other way

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Getting exactly what I asked for is always a win, even when the result is unimpressive. Just to master control is the goal. These poses are hard to make work.

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>>43450680
>>43450822
>>43450826
Ignore the following, these ones are it.

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