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Is there a way to learn japanese in one week?

>> No.3994678

Nope.

>> No.3994676

Holy shit! I didn't know spock loved touhou so much!

>> No.3994679

>>3994667
You're like that jerk who sat in on the pre-collegiate seminar and asked if there was a way to earn a four year degree in two years.

>> No.3994680

Heisig learned all the kanji in 6 weeks, iirc.

>> No.3994687

>>3994679
Well fuck you charles, I did it in two years didn't I?

>> No.3994688

Accelerate your learning, take adderal and study and never sleep.

>> No.3994689

>>3994680
That's bullshit and we all know it. Not even the Japanese can do that.

>> No.3994691

Yes. Eat the brain of a Japanese person.

>> No.3994701

>>3994689
I learned it in 3 months with Heisig's method and I didn't even try that hard. 3-5 hours per day. You can easily double that, and you get exactly 6 weeks then.

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>>3994667

>> No.3994719

It's like I'm looking at a Japanese version of myself.

>> No.3994720

>>3994715
GO BACK TO /a/.

>> No.3994729

>>3994701
Not being able to do anything other than matching kanji to English words does not equal learning kanji. Heisig is shit and is for retards.

>> No.3994730

Commit seppuku. It's the only way.

>> No.3994743

You see, thinking “logic” and being able to write 理 doesn’t mean anything. First of all, 理 isn’t even a word. 論理、理論、理解、料理、管理、修理、義理、心理学 are words and until you can write real words in real Japanese, I’m not impressed.

>> No.3994750

>>3994667
Jack into the Matrix, I guess.

>> No.3994753

>>3994729
And yet another idiot fails to realize that no one keeps you from learning the readings after finishing Heisig's. It's merely a tool to cut the time required by half, at the very least.

>> No.3994772

>>3994667
eat a japanese man's (or woman's) brain.
that should work

>> No.3994807

well you can get the basics down.

>> No.3994823

I learned and got about to the level of a native speaker in around 3 days. Of course, I didn't sleep at all during this time, but still. It's possible, Just not terribly easy, so most people prefer to spread it over a long period of time.

>> No.3994839

>>3994667

What the fuck is up with his ears?

>> No.3994844

Yeah, sure. You can learn Japanese in one week. In one second even. Just not all of it.

>> No.3994866 [DELETED] 

Learning Japanese is useless. Study and get a good playing job instead with all that spare time.

When I get rich I'm gonna hire a translator. She will translate VNs for me line by line as I play them. I'll also hire a full-time hooker because nowadays I'm too lazy to fap to ero scenes.

>> No.3994877

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuFe5lqBAYE

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>>3994866
>When I get rich

>> No.3994880

Learning Japanese is useless. Study and get a good paying job instead with all that spare time.

When I get rich I'm gonna hire a translator. She will translate VNs for me line by line as I play them. I'll also hire a full-time hooker because nowadays I'm too lazy to fap to ero scenes.

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>>3994866

>> No.3994912

Yeah I'm guessing there's no way to do this until Ghost in the Shell type technology so condolences OP.

>> No.3994908

>>3994866
>full time hooker
They're called wives

>> No.3994922

>>3994866
>anal penetration
its called buttsex

>> No.3994926

>>3994880
I dunno man. The idea of learning Japanese just to mambo with a bunch of sweaty shut-ins at comiket while picking up Haruhi rape doujins? Feels good man.

>> No.3994939

>>3994743
> You see, thinking “logic” and being able to write 理 doesn’t mean anything. First of all, 理 isn’t even a word. 論理、理論、理解、料理、管理、修理、義理、心理学 are words and until you can write real words in real Japanese, I’m not impressed.

Nice copy pasta. RTK is good because it teaches you how to write the Kanji. Even people who are fluent readers in Japanese have a bitch of a time remembering how to write characters.

>> No.3994952

>論理
IM SO 論理
haha its a joke on multiple levels

>> No.3994979

Hey y'all I actually want to get a consensus before I spend my Christmas pittance on books. I'd say I'm kind of gaining steam as far as learning Japanese, and I know about 100 kanji. Like I couldn't just list the kun and on readings if you asked me to, but I can read 'em in a sentence or in certain common combinations, you know? Is RTK a good idea for me? I'm already doing smart.fm's core lesson things, so what I really want is a way to systematically memorize kanji.

>> No.3995027

>>3994979
RTK is good because it teaches you systematically in a logical way so constructing kanji in your mind becomes an easy task. For example first you learn 口, then you build on it and learn 中, 古, etc. It won't teach you the readings or even the exact meanings until volume 2 (which many suggest to just not do) but it does wonders for actually knowing the kanji. In other words it will put you in the same position to learn Japanese that a Chinese person would be in.

>> No.3995119

From experience, the system in RTK is really the only sensible way to approach learning them. The actual content isn't that great, though... you'll probably want to come up with your own meanings/stories, and more importantly a few of the "keywords" he gives have basically nothing to do with the kanji, so be careful. I'd recommend getting Anki and using the "RTK with kanji definitions" deck.

Still, it's really the only way for an adult foreigner to learn them. I started taking actual Japanese classes after doing RTK, and I was bowled over by Genki's hilariously bad order of teaching them. 曜 was like #15 or something... seriously?

>> No.3995149

>>3995027
>>3995119
Thanks very much.
>use anki
Duly noted.

>> No.3995179

>>3995119
Genki is okay for the most part. There are books that have much worse orders (pic related). At least Genki has the stroke orders, and the grammar parts and vocabulary lists are great.

>> No.3995195

>>3995179
There be no pic for ye to relate to sir.

>> No.3995206

>>3995149
Oh, I should add that by "use Anki and that deck" I mean to avoid his few nonsense keywords. I would suggest making physical flashcards, even if you never use them... it's enough practice to let you write the "components" without hesitation from muscle memory, which of course makes learning to write them for reals much easier/ actually possible.

>> No.3995207

Kanjidicks. It won't be the most fun, but it's the most sensible order.

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>>3995149
>use aniki
YOU CALL ME? HUH?

>> No.3995231

>>3995119
>曜
Well, it's certainly used a LOT, and I suppose you should learn the days of the week early, but yeah... it's a pain in the ass to learn such kanji before you learned the radicals it uses. I'd say all textbooks are inherently flawed.

The problem is that they usually have "themes" for lessons. For example school, travel, food, etc. and they teach you words and kanji related to that topic. This works just fine for most languages, but kanji just don't work that way, there are some pretty nasty kanji that are used in very common words.

The other problem is that classes can only expect you to do so much work at home. They can't really tell you to learn 200 kanji by next week, since 90% of the class would fall behind quickly. Because of this you'll take classes for 3-4 years and only learn 500 or so kanji. Not even enough for manga (without furigana).

>> No.3995235

>>3995179
Oh yeah, I agree with that other stuff. I just mean that their order of teaching the kanji, plus lack of any meaningful help with actually remembering them beyond "write them a lot," leaves something to be desired.

メアリーさあああああああああん！！！

>> No.3995242

>>3995206
Or you could just use Anki and write down each answer on a piece of paper before you click on Show.

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>>3995235
ちょっと待て
今タバコを吸っているから

>> No.3995386

>>3995263
this is just wrong

>> No.3996946

Sorry to necromance a thread but I'm the guy who was thinking of getting RTK
Any other books /jp/ recommends?

>> No.3997668

there is a lot more to learning Japanese than just the kanji

>> No.3997681

>>3997668
Absolutely, but kanji is a huge part of it. If you have something you want to say though, or a book to recommend. Reading through kanjidicks right now.

>> No.3997963

it sure it , it is the part I am struggling with. Grammar, sentence structure, etc.

>> No.3999713

>>3997963
I don't even know enough to get into that yet. My hope is that studying kanji gives me enough vocabulary to work with so i can conjugate verbs and adjectives and such.

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