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>> No.39846802

Thanks, I missed something in the last stream, when she was talking about a ヨル-sama cosplay she means the one from SpyxFamily? Doesn't seem like something that would fit her.

>> No.39846817

>>39846802
She likes SpyxFamily

>> No.39846828

>>39846817
But it's not sexy enough, I missed when she started talking about it, was it for a stream?

>> No.39846834

Her reaction to people telling her about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH2aI_wzmuE
was pretty funny, but yeah fuck that retard.

>> No.39847061

Why two threads?
>>39846792

>> No.39847095

>>39847061
OP of the other one forgot to check the catalogue

>> No.39847145

What have I missed with the last two zatsudan?

>> No.39847235

>>39846834
Makes it sound like she's graduating as Noel.

>> No.39847257

>>39846834
I fucking wish I could get him banned. What was her reaction though?

>> No.39847284

>>39847257
Can't she do a takedown? It's her video and it's privatized. But she probably doesn't want that reputation and it was on YouTube for the public.

>> No.39847440

>>39847284
She could, but I don't think she would even bother to do that. I'd say that channel is an even bigger menace than otakmori. At least otakmori would translate the whole sentence instead of just writing its summary and they are constantly making misinformation in almost every video.

>> No.39847460

>>39847257
After chat told her what she was going to do kirinuki on YouTube she was like "oh well as long as they mean anything bad" then she searched Canan clip, instantly went quiet and said "yeah I don't know English but I have to get this taken down"
I can just imagine how she must have felt the moment she saw the Noel siluete, hopefully she gets the whole channel killed.

>> No.39847502

>>39847440
>>39847460
If it's defamation then she has every right to seek it taken down.

>> No.39847511

>>39847502
Not even need defamation, he's straight up reuploading her content so under youtube that's more than enough to get it taken down. Someone also tried something similar reuploading a bit from her community stream and she got it taken down immediately

>> No.39847517

>>39847502
>defamation
>right
What right? Under what law?

>> No.39847590

>>39847517
It's her video and he's using it to slander her. She has a right to take it down. This is beyond fair use.

>> No.39847903

Did she really say she wants to wear a reverse bunny outfit and fuck me pasties? That seems pretty lewd for R15.

>> No.39847947

>>39847903
>Reverse bunny suit
We haven't even gotten a normal bunny suit stream despite teasing it a while ago...

>> No.39847983

>>39847903
The reverse bunny yes, even if it would just be pasties only on top, then she started looking up fluorescent pasties to wear with it and someone linked the fuck me pasties, said she'd like to wear them but that it's probably too far, maybe some F*CK ME ones would work?
>>39847947
Yeah she said it got shelved, honestly I expect costumes to go down on the NND streams, I imagine she'd rather expend the money on lewder costumes she'll only get to wear on the new site.

>> No.39848001

>>39847983
>>39847947
I don't see how she'd wear this on camera.
https://litter.catbox.moe/z2b13q.jpg
She doesn't even like showing her breasts so she wears bras even with outfits that don't suit it. Like the strawberry pajamas.

>> No.39848111

>>39848001
Well who knows, I do think she's setting a lot of people up for disappointment, she keeps agreeing and that she'll do it on the new plan whenever people ask for lewder stuff, but she'll get cold feet right at the last second for some the stuff people are expecting.
You're wrong about disliking showing her breasts though, the stream before last was braless, and she also did a lot of braless before the NND restrictions and she really loves doing those handbra pictures, the last stream was with a bra because she said she wanted to show it off, it was new cute underwear she had just bought.

>> No.39848175

>>39848111
I don't like it, it feels like she's being pressured by chat to go lewder and lewder and she has Noel to look at for as well.
Now she has the that video up on YouTube that is painting her in a bad way and going lewder and lewder, at what point does Cover step in? I don't want her getting in trouble or worse because so far it's been a slippery slope and there's plenty of people that want to push her so far she's masturbating with a dildo on stream for their own sick pleasure. No one is taking account of her own feelings.

>> No.39848198

>>39848175
This. She just needs to put her foot down and say that she just going to do her old NND stuff with a little bit more, like she originally intended.

>> No.39848228

>>39848175
Let's just wait and see before going all in on the doomposting

>> No.39848230

>>39848198
More people need to step up and show her support to her. I try on Twitter and chat but I feel like I'm drowned out by the coomers. She's too nice and doesn't want to upset anyone so she gives them what they want so they'll stay. She's so afraid of losing viewers. She needs to learn that majority of us would support her no matter what she does.
And if that's what she really wants to do then that's her wish. But I rather she want to do it than feel pressured by the coom squad.

>> No.39848235

>>39848111
I'm confused about the price. I don't know how much porn is or a porn subscription is in Japan, but here in burgerland, a subscription to a regular porn site is half the price of what her plan is gonna be. Her plan is almost the same price as some OnlyFans accounts and she's gonna be showing way less and she's not getting fucked.

>> No.39848241

>>39848230
Try your luck in DM

>> No.39848244

>>39848235
It'll be 5,000 yen or roughly $50. It's actually 38.62 USD because the yen is pretty weak right now.

>> No.39848261

>>39848230
Yeah I think she has forgotten that people also membered her for the cooking videos
Maybe I should send her a donation saying that.

>> No.39848284

Come on don't act like it's all on the viewers, it's very obvious she's very horny herself, hololive is already satisfying all the loneliness and other problems what she had, but she still needs the Canan audience to satisfy herself sexually.

>> No.39848301

>>39848244
Well that’s not as expensive as all of you made it out to be. When was that confirmed?

>> No.39848307
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>>39848241
I feel like she'd just ignore me. I actually kind of hate concern posting, I can do it here because it's anonymous.
I'll just do what >>39848228 said and wait and see. If she starts getting to racy and seeming visibly uncomfortable I'll try to step in and I hope others would.

>>39848261
Same, might be good idea. I do miss those fun times with her. She still does Zatsudans and bed time ASMRs but aside from those rare occasions it's all the same Ear Lick ASMR with tits out.
She is busy though with Noel and that does seem easier to just do that than plan out cooking or something. Plus there's the stuff that she doesn't like showing her apartment and the tell that the Ear Licks also help her get off.

>> No.39848336

>>39848307
I have always wanted her to do a gunpla stream...

>> No.39848354

>>39848301
On her twitter. It's 5,000 yen a month as opposed to the 550 yen currently and all you're getting is an additional video a month but she said it'll be lewder since she can show sex toys, use a different vocabulary, and use other items.
You can look at people like Macoto or Rizuna to get an idea. I think of that Koyori cosplay one Rizuna did and still don't understand how that was R15.

>> No.39848365

>>39848235
You should see Fantia man, some girls charge even more for less with these things is less about the actual content and more about who is providing it

>> No.39848374

>>39848244
I still think it's too much. At this price range I think she'll have the inverse of the problem she has now: she's doing too little for too much. Right now, she's doing too much for too little. I'm honestly not surprised that people are asking her to do lewder things because again, buying regular porn at this point is cheaper. I wouldn't be surprised if her pirating issue becomes worse (I'm even considering pirating the first few streams to see if it's worth my money). I believe for what she's going to do, the price should be around $20 -$25 USD.

>> No.39848379

>>39848354
>Koyori cosplay
It was pretty good. If Canan can do half this shit, it'll be golden.
https://gofile.io/d/HjPMYP

>> No.39848392

>>39848354
I see. Not sure about it being worth the price but I can see that her fans would definitely subscribe to that. A lot of people would sub to a 10k or even more expensive plan to get nothing just because it’s their oshi.

>> No.39848409

>>39848392
Yeah that's really the main thing behind it. It's less about providing something worth 5k yen and more like giving an extra motivation to donate to those who would have been inclined to do it without reward in the first place

>> No.39848418

>>39848365
I've seen some accounts on Fantia that you described. Idk, i guess trying to find fair price points on porn is a fruitless endeavor in the first place. Also, I still can't believe Macoto has a Tier 3, $100 USD plan that gives no perks and is described as "for those of you who really love me". Anyone who signed up for that is truly the def of a simp.

>> No.39848423

>>39848379
>Face sitting on a KU-100
>Footjob with a dildo
>Grinding against the dildo
This isn't R15, is it? This is just softcore porn at this point and I get if people are telling her to masturbate on camera.

>> No.39848450

>>39848418
I mean to each their own. Not like it's any different with Noel getting akasupas for no major reason and she gets a couple of those every stream.

>> No.39848490

>>39848423
Crazy thing is that Macoto to has already done those things before in her regular NND plan (minus the dildo). Canan's even delved into it (again, minus the dildo)

>> No.39848491

>>39848392
>>39848409
I think the people who will pay for a 5k plan would pay for a 10k plan or a 2k plan, basically they'll do whatever to support her.
The others will just find other means like Nyaa or what have you. Maybe if it doesn't have the returns she hopes she'll stop. It is after all just experimenting. Unless she really enjoys it because she's getting off to it.

>> No.39848540

>>39848490
Canan has done some lewd things with her KUs, I remember the one where she brought out both and acted like she was having a threesome. That was... something.

>> No.39848602

>>39848540
The word you want is"awesome". Cuz that stream was awesome

>> No.39848770

>>39848602
I'm just not big into group stuff. I'm pretty vanilla but I'm willing to have fun, just not group things...

>> No.39848779
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39848779

Interested in her new plan, but I hope it won't be too different from what we're getting now!

>> No.39848790

>>39848540
Yep, and she said she wants to do something similar again with a dual camera set up, one pointing at her ass and another at her tits.
And also make heavy use of the transparent chair, and these are thing she brought up herself, she's horny and these are the fantasies she wants to play out with her audience.
>>39848602
Sadly she's still too much of a virgin and some of these situations just end up funny and weird rather than sexy

>> No.39848817

>>39848790
I wonder if she got laid how much that would change things. I feel like a lot of this is pent up sexual urges and if she had sex a lot of it would go away. Or maybe it would open a new can of worms.

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>>39848817
So I guess this is where I say I'll go take care of her and you start jerking off.

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>>39848846
Yeah, nice try but I'm going to save this menhera.

>> No.39848976

I just notice that it says the cheapest plan will be 5000 yen. So expect an 8000 or 10000 plan I guess. It could be extra content or a service.

>> No.39849026

>>39848976
She said before higher tiers would be for access to old archives, for the 5k you have to watch live or within a few weeks.

>> No.39849111

>>39848423
>>39847903
I think R15 just means not nude

>> No.39849227

>>39848790
>Some of these situations just end up funny and weird rather than sexy
Holy shit I thought I was the only one who thought this. Thank you anon.

>> No.39849255

In a sense, I can tell that some anons here are becoming what is a step-below a purityfag. They're not a full blown purityfag but they're standing on the road towards purityfag. While it's a bit concerning, it's also good that it's all contained here and not on Noel's streams.

>> No.39849299

>>39849255
I'm not sure what you mean. I don't want her to ride dildos or squirt on stream if that's what you mean by purityfag.

>> No.39849640

>>39849255
Call me whatever you want. I just want her to do what she's comfortable with. If she wants to go all the way and do JAVs, fine, she can do JAVs but I want that to be her choice and not peer pressure.
We can also argue if Hololive are actually idols but I feel there should be a level of professionalism with them that should separate them from other people. Especially since it feels like the gap is closing between Noel and Canan, that video being one. I know Cover's stance is to stay out of the personal lives of their talents but the second it starts to hurt their image or cost them money then they'll step in and who knows what would happen after that. I'm sure Canan has thought of that which is why she's been pretty wishy washy on everything.

>> No.39850061

>>39846834
He even has a Nozomi one up.
https://youtu.be/fJHQ1PzxWz8

>> No.39850381

Guys i think I'm becoming a parasocial andy... last year she was some whore I jacked off to. Now I can't stop thinking about her. Now I want to psychoanalyze her like the rest of you shizos. I thought I was above you retards! Help I just want to go back to the way things were. When things were easier...

>> No.39850410

>>39850381
Welcome to the club where we all fall in love with this hot mess and want to save her by overanalyzing everything she says and does.

>> No.39850692

>>39850410
I like Canan but holy shit I don't want to end up like that again. I've white knighted before and that relationship didn't end well.

>> No.39850729

>>39850692
What happened? Might be a lesson some here should learn.

>> No.39850741

>>39848770
I'm not into group stuff to but the threesome part was good. I really liked her teasing her old mic with her compliments towards her KU100. She sounded really sultry. Add in a forming fitting sweater with some stockings? And the microkini at the end? Bro, how could you not think that stream was great?

>> No.39850765

>>39850741
Maybe I need to go back and check it out. What was the date?

>> No.39850805

>>39850765
https://fantia.jp/products/227905
Buy it if you're a true fan and for the 1080p date is around there somewhere.

>> No.39850838

>>39850729
You white knighting can end up like the following:
- You white knighting just hides some real issues that she needs to deal with. You swooping in means you love her for who she is. So if she had real issues, why would she change? You love her after all. But trust me, give it time, and those rose colored lenses become clearer and you'll see those warts. Remember, there's a REASON she needs to be saved. Will she improve on those issues? Are you willing to deal with someone who goes through the same issues repeatedly? (This happened to me)
- You white knighting is really only a confidence boost for her. You can save her, build her back up again, and BAM she's confident and guys are coming after her. At that point, it's the big question: does she love you for you or does she love you because you saved her? This is why you never, ever try to be an immediate rebound. (Happened to a buddy of mine)

>> No.39850845

>>39850805
>Buy it if you're a true fan
I might, I do like quality. My are just the rips that are 720p. I'm paying for her monthly membership across all 3 accounts so I justify it that way.

>> No.39850871

>>39850805
Man I'm thankful I signed up for her Fantia since day 1. Got that stream for free by subbing to the $5 tier. A lot of those pre-NND purge videos were uploaded there, ready to download for months. She took them back down so that she could prepare them for resell.

>> No.39850903
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>>39850838
I guess that makes a little sense, why some devoted fans become antis. I guess it's just finding balance, supporting her through her endeavors but letting her fail when she needs to so she can learn and supporting her when she needs that too.
One thing I do love about her is that she doesn't let failure get her down and keeps trying to better herself. She likes a challenge and it's something we could all learn from her.

>> No.39850957

I don't feel like she needs white knighting, she's been doing this for 13 years, she knows what she's doing.

>> No.39853448
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39853448

This shit sounds complicated as fuck. As someone trying to order from the States, I don't know if it's possible. Might sell out fast.
https://twitter.com/JOLCollabStore/status/1526845216015060992

>> No.39853459

>>39853448
You can’t order it online. The goods are only sold on site.

>> No.39853464

>>39853459
So I'll have to buy it second hand, shit. Hopefully the mark up isn't too bad. Would like to know what it is though.

>> No.39853520

Found her old BOOTH.
https://canan8181.booth.pm/items/2969255
Wish they went through this, so much easier buying stuff. I feel it's Nozomi doing most of the planning. Whole thing was likely her idea.

>> No.39853934

>>39853520
Hey I remember her BOOTH. I forget why she stopped using it. Makes sense why she doesn't continue using it now considering she has Fantia. She mostly used that place to resell her old ASMR streams.

>> No.39854039

>>39853520
Is seems like Nozomi got an offer and she decided to bring Canan into it too. She never releases her goods by herself like Canan does.

>> No.39854273

>>39853448
>Yahoo shit
Yeah imposible to get for foreigners. They ask for a Yahoo ID which requires a Japanese phone number

>> No.39854611

>>39854273
I think if you use a forwarding service like Blackship, you could just use their number. However it would still be useless since it’s just a ticket reservation to buy the goods on site, not to buy the goods and deliver it to your address.

>> No.39859299

>>39848873
>>39848846
>>39848779
koikatsu card of this menhera when

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39859944

>>39859299
You probably could make it yourself. Her design isn't that outrageous.

>> No.39862013

>>39846834
>still up
Guess she didn't have any luck with the takedown.

>> No.39862496

>>39862013
Might be fair use since it's a public video and she can't take it down. All you can do is dislike the video and upvote the comments clarifying. That's what I did.

>> No.39863375

"save" stfu

>> No.39863418

>>39863375
Thanks for the bump.

>> No.39863475

Why did she even start doing asmr in the first place? I saw people saying her boyfriend told her to do asmr and then she did. The 2019 and early 2020 days of her doing asmr when we were watching the boyfriend was watching her doing asmr in the other room, im so jealous. After her doing asmr and thanking the donations imagine you are the boyfriend and she goes offline then you have sex with her and the fact that she would be kinda horny after doing the asmr. DESPAIR.

>> No.39863479

>>39863475
What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.39863504

>>39863475
She started doing ASMR around 2016 ajd it was because she is an audiophile.

>>39863479
Probably someone who has swallowed schizo narratives from /t/

>> No.39863519

>>39863504
>/t/
I've been there once and left. Why does anyone subject themselves to that shit?

>> No.39863534

>>39863519
Yeah I go there but not for the ASMR thread which is filled with insane angry people.

>> No.39866737

>>39863504
she isn't a virgin if that's what you're saying

>> No.39866855

>>39866737
Nah I would rather believe her than some anti on /jp/ who knows nothing about her.

>> No.39868031

>>39866855
cope

>> No.39868227

Lol thanks for admitting you know nothing about her.

>> No.39869406

I don't understand.

https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1527398730462547968
https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1527396985413996544

>> No.39870039

>>39869406
Her sleeping habits continue to be shit

>> No.39870055

>>39870039
She should just do what anons do and masturbate until they fall asleep.

>> No.39871943

She's live taking a shower?

>> No.39871962

>>39871943
>Private life Tareko-chan
Is that her real name?

>> No.39872183
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Funny there was an ad for Noel's figma on C's stream.

>> No.39872302

>>39872183
Hey, I got the exact same add

>> No.39872338

>>39872183
>>39872302
I don't think it's an ad, it's some gift thing at the bottom.

>> No.39873382

How does she feel about running into donators on both accounts? Like if some dude donates to her on both her shiro and c accounts using the same account/username does she block the person? Has there been accounts of this happening?

>> No.39873465

>>39873382
There's a don't ask, don't tell code of conduct. There's a lot of followers that follow both and post in both and they treat them as two separate identities. Some even have both emojis in their names to show support. You basically don't talk about it and if you break it I'm sure she deals with them. I support both under the same name and nothing has happened to me.

>> No.39873765

>>39873465
Wouldn’t having both emojis be like some type of soft doxxing though?

>> No.39873825

>>39873765
She doesn't care, hell she "self soft doxxes" herself all the time talking about her job, what matters is that it's not explicit.

>> No.39873864

>>39873765
There are even some artists who draw both

>> No.39873944

>>39873765
No because you only know if you know. To anyone else it's just emojis. Some even have more like Flare's or Marine's.

>> No.39874059

>>39873825
Isn’t there a famous clip of her knee slamming her keyboard because she referenced her job? Then again, I’m not the sharpest knife in the cabinet and she could’ve just done that for comedy's sake.

>> No.39874087

>>39874059
Yes she called herself danchou or something during a canan stream. A few of them seem to mix it up from time to time, it isnt a big deal

>> No.39874188

>>39874059
>>39874087
She called herself "danchou," flipped out, apologized, and ended the stream. I think it was 2020? I forget and the video isn't around anymore except for that clip.
I know she used to have quite the temper back then but to have reaction always confused me.

>> No.39874263

>>39874188
She laughed about though. She still ocassionally makes jokes about it.

>> No.39874273

>>39874188
She didn't end the stream, she just edited that part out after the stream.

>> No.39874282

>>39874273 (me)
The video is still up as well.

>> No.39874291

>>39874273
>>39874282
Ok, I just assumed. I haven't seen it since it happened.

>> No.39874907

https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1527625601875853314
On the stream a few hours ago she said she's been out of her house for 12 hours some days and that her work is strating to feel like a normal job, wonder what they got her doing so much.

>> No.39878658

>>39874907
Could be anything.
Could be stuff happening this summer, could be something she has planned in June, could be that Taiko song they won in the tournament, could be birthday or anniversary concerts, could be the thing Sankisei is planning, could be stuff on the main channel, or could be a mix of all of it.
We'll just have to wait and see.

>> No.39878690

>>39874907
There are few others have also been doing recordings all day.

>> No.39878770

>>39878690
There's something going on in July. But I doubt she's working 12 hours straight. She probably goes out after recording with her manager or other Holos.

>> No.39878830

She's live, she can't sleep because of a stomach ache.
And has a Noel stream in 6 hours.

>> No.39879050

She wants to do more dual mic "threesomes", the same stuff as last time with fake dicks and all out on the dirty talk would be amazing.

>> No.39879083

>>39879050
Seriously...?
Maybe she does just want to be gangbanged. She always seemed so vanilla that I'm kind of disappointed.

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>>39879050
>>39879083
I'm sure it's just a fantasy, like guys wanting to have an orgy with multiple girls. Or she thinks it turns the chat on, but it's pretty obvious she's pretty sexually stunted and repressed and that comes out in weird ways.
t. Knowing from experience.

>> No.39879213

>>39879126
Or she read some gangbang hentai and got found it really turned her on. Hentai can really introduce you to some fetishes you never think you'd be into.

>> No.39879239

>>39879213
I feel it's more for us than her.

>> No.39879243

>>39879126
>>39879213
I mean in this case we are talking about something she already did before, she either liked the reaction or liked how she felt doing it, and wants to do it again.
Unlike say the babyplay shit which she looks back at as embarrassing and wouldn't do again.

>> No.39879309

>>39879243
I mean, if there are actual grown men who are into babyplay, I'd be embarassed too.

>> No.39879473

>>39846788
Has she ever said that she didn’t smell good

>> No.39879521

>>39879473
No, she bathes regularly and even streams it sometimes. Audio only.

>> No.39879545

>>39879473
In the call with Kururu I think she said she smelled bad that day.

>> No.39879549

>>39846788
I love this filthy whore so much, it's unreal.

>> No.39879928

How do I know if Noel is the one for me?

>> No.39879964

>>39879928
By watching her

>> No.39880150

>>39879050
Hypothetical here.
Say you were in a relationship with C and she wanted to invite another person into the relationship and that person had to be a man because girls make her jealous. Would you do it?

>> No.39881611

>>39880150
No, but I can understand why its fantasy for her.
Don't pretend that you don't have fantasies of fucking groups of women.
However just because we have these fantasies it doesn't mean they should be tolerated in a relationship.

>> No.39881613

>>39879309
that stream was hard to watch

>> No.39881845

Nice outfit on those new fantia pictures, and another handbra, she really does those a lot recently.

>> No.39882057

>>39881845
Just don't go posting them all over 4chan.

>> No.39885956

>>39881613
Really? I found it funny

>> No.39885996

>>39848540
when was that?

>> No.39886097

https://twitter.com/canan8181/status/1527965284862021633

>> No.39886150

>>39886097
That お箸セット looks really nice....
Is there no way to get this stuff outside Japan?

>> No.39886193
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>>39886150
You'd have to go through resale.

>>39886097
That's quite a lot of merch, I didn't think it would be so much. No wonder she was so busy probably planning and designing all of this.

>> No.39886217

>>39886097
>>39886193
There's nothing that I must own so missing out won't hurt that bad.
The clothes would never fit me and the rest is kind of run of the mill merchandise. Really only want the cards.

>> No.39886248

Funny after that talk yesterday about what she thinks about fans being obvious about following both, the guy drawing the goods and getting retweeted has both oshi marks, a Noel avatar and a Noel header image, she really doesn't care.

>> No.39886285

>>39886248
It's not that bad if you view them as two separate people like I'm sure she does. It's the worst kept secret and I'm sure she's just happy with the support.

>> No.39886313

what's the dm drama about?

>> No.39886317

>>39886248
>Funny after that talk yesterday about what she thinks about fans being obvious about following both
What did she say?

>> No.39886335

>>39886317
No I mean the talk in this thread.

>> No.39887001

i forgot when this happened a year or 2 years ago she did a youtube stream celebrating something and she talked about it seemed like a guy was fingering her and had the 2 fingers up in a fingering pose going up and down and now i cant find that part because she probably removed it

>> No.39887035

and she was doing that thing where she deepens her voice and was saying "canan chan does this feel good?" then i think the chat said something and then she regretted saying that

>> No.39887084

>>39887001
>>39887035
That never happened

>> No.39888729

That was a nice stream and sudden utawaku, too bad I can't buy any of that stuff.

>> No.39889004

>>39886097
They look really neat, I'll be on the lookout in Yahoo auctions in case someone sells them

>> No.39889462

>>39886248
>the guy
oshinegai chan is a woman

>> No.39889747

>>39888729
Did she just talk about the merch? I fell asleep after Noel's stream.

>> No.39889990

>>39889747
Not just, it was like three hours of talking and singing while doing work.

>> No.39890062

>>39887084
and the guy that was live translating back then didn't translate that moment, i wonder why? lol

>> No.39890079

>>39887001
>>39887035
my oshi is a whore, feelsgoodman or feelsbadman?

>> No.39890094

>>39890079
FeelsNeutralMan

>> No.39890125

>>39889990
>Streamed almost 12 hours today
Sounds like she's having fun at least.

>> No.39890135

>>39886193
That pig keychain is so fucking cute... I want it

>> No.39890195

>>39890125
She did say on both accounts, she's makes it so she doesn't have to do any work outside on the weekends so she's enjoying this time the most she can.
At this point it does sound like holos are becoming wagies.

>> No.39890199

>>39886313
alot of people use to dm so that means antis
she closes dms
simps are still allowed to dm
and thats the drama because simps are still allowed to dm

>> No.39890279

>>39890199
So a bunch of idiots getting angry over nothing, the usual

>> No.39890368

>>39890199
also the simps get special pics in dms she sent a handbra when she finished her recent earlicking stream

>> No.39890380

>>39886313
>>39890199
What drama? I haven't seen anyone talking about that.

>> No.39890452

>>39890199
I got blocked from dm'ing her and all I was doing was reporting where I found her earlicking streams being re-uploaded. Oh and I also told her to be careful during the whole Coco/China thing. I don't speak JPN and I needed to use MTL so maybe things got lost in context but it's a bummer. I was just tryin to help.

>> No.39890930

>>39890452
damn, i use to say dumb shit in dms but she never blocked me then i stopped because i dont want to get blocked by her

>> No.39891125

>>39890930
Yup. All I did was tell her "this is machine translated. I'm an overseas viewer. I found a website that is re-uploaded your membership streams. I did not reupload them. Please do your best to get them taken down [insert link here]". In the beginning, I also tweeted that to her (I use my acct which has no followers and is set to private.) but I stopped that after a while and just did dms. Then one day, I noticed that she blocked dms from me. After that, I was whatever with people reuploading her stuff and I even used those reuploads when they aren't in Fantia or NND. It also felt kinda pointless trying to report to her about it because people are always gonna reupload and some reuploads that I reported to her are still up.

>> No.39891138

>>39891125
Are you properly blocked or just blocked from DMing her? Because a while ago she turned off DMs from people who she doesn't follow, and it might just be that

>> No.39891260

>>39890368
Is this true or just a troll? After the Rushia shit, I wouldn't think she would do the same thing.

>> No.39891281

>>39891260
Wouldn't assume it's true. There are already folks who post here who either make shit up or get all their rrats from 5chan.

>> No.39891295

>>39891138
Blocked from DMing her. I can still go on her twitter profile. But if it's the case that she blocked dms from people she doesn't follow, then how is anyone supposed to report that they found reuploads? Her email? That isn't any different then reporting via dm

>> No.39891322

>>39891295
She did a session some months ago where fans could ask and get followed, and yeah I think she said to contact her by email too.

>> No.39892727

No NND members stream this weekend?

>> No.39892740

>>39892727
She's ovulating so she's probably worried she would get too horny.

>> No.39893586

>>39886193
Should be noted that the trading cards are random so good luck collecting all of them and will probably go for more than they're worth for a collection.
She said they're with an ASMR voice so you might not get that if the person is reselling.

>> No.39895978

Fucker is doing it again, where can we send it to C so she can strike it?
https://youtu.be/eOct7P38rNQ

>> No.39897211

>>39895978
poor overseas fans, why are you so mad about translated clips of her?

>> No.39897569

>>39897211
Because they're mistranslated clips and the pictures shown are filtered. That's ignoring the click bait titles. It's all just misinformation and she doesn't like stuff like that.

>> No.39903275

>>39895978
This just seems like the Iroha translations guy, still keeping up with the clickbait and shit translations but now also being much more willing to do stuff that exposes the roommate stuff. He probably switched to a new channel because he got called out badly for how shit the clips were.

>> No.39903284

>>39895978
She truly looks like a whore.

>> No.39903290

>>39903275
It is him. He just switched to doing this shit because the cat drama was hot and he found a shitload of ancient videos to repost.

>> No.39904875

Does she actually want to do TikTok or is that just an ongoing joke?

>> No.39906308

Anyone worried about a new wave of antis coming out of the woodwork once her new plan starts and the videos start getting out? Seeing people like Korone and Iroha take breaks because haters are relentless, I would hate for that to happen to Noel.

>> No.39907521

>>39906308
That's the main fear yeah, with Macoto it was already proved the videos are extremely easy to rip from that site and will be up a less than an hour after, depending on how hard she goes there could be a bunch of people spamming with it trying to start shit, that alone will really annoy her.
She's strong enough to withstand it but I think the bigger problem would be fans trying to defend her turning it into some big drama.

>> No.39908682

>>39906308
why the anti's hating on korone and iroha for?

>> No.39913018 [DELETED] 

>>39846788

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>> No.39916659

>Two waiting rooms up for C
I sometimes wish she would stop.

>> No.39916721

Is there anyone here that doesn't watch Noel but watches C?

>> No.39916796

>>39916659
Both are ASMR streams so she doesn't need a lot of setup. One is a regular ASMR stream so that'll basically become a zatsu at the end. The other is an earlicking one which is fine because at least she'll be able to get some sexual release.

>> No.39916827

>>39916659
I love and appreciate her hard work, but I do wish she would take it easier at times, specially knowing how busy she is because of Hololive.

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>>39916796
>>39916827
That's what I worry about, the burnout. But also I do enjoy her much more as Noel.
Some say she's faking it but she does seem happier and watching her have fun playing video games is always the best. I can only take so much ASMR, especially the ear licking.

>> No.39916902

>>39916888
Luckily enough we do get way more Noel than C, so in the end it works out just fine.

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>>39916902
True, we get C once or twice a week and Noel three to four. Not counting the popup zatsus that she does. It would be fun if she did another twitter space as Noel or something, the last one was a lot of fun.
I honestly don't know why I get like this sometimes, maybe I need a hobby or more going on in my life instead of worrying about this shit. It's smart that she keeps C going because if anything were to happen that's still a large source of income. It's selfish and stupid of me to want to her quit C totally and focus on Noel when the former is such a massive paycheck.

>> No.39916973

>>39916796
>she'll be able to get some sexual release.
Any reason why she needs the ASMRs to get sexual release? Is she just an exhibitionist?
I usually just whip out the tenga and have at it when I need release and that gets me through the day, week, whatever.

>> No.39917243

>>39916973
To me, she seems pretty naive when it comes to this sort of stuff. She's said before that she has masterbated before but it's only been once or twice and yet she's also said she uses the lewd streams as a release (sexual or stress release). Perhaps since she's done so many of these lewd streams they've become the best way for her to get off. Kind of like how if you have to jerk off a certain way because of necessity, it'll eventually become your go to way to jerk off. However the base assumption is that you believe the things she does or says about herself.

>> No.39917284

>>39916946
>I honestly don't know why I get like this sometimes, maybe I need a hobby or more going on in my life instead of worrying about this shit
Don't take this wrong way, I am going to say this because you seem like a decent person, but the fact that you say that is probably an indication that you should find a hobby or get more out of your life. It's great that you care about strangers but the energy you use worrying so much about a stranger's wellbeing could be used in other parts of your life. She's a grown woman, she'll make mistakes, and being completely serious, there's nothing much we can do to help her. Just enjoy the time you have watching her content and try to find enjoyment out of your own life. I'm getting close to 30 and let me tell you, as you get older, you'll realize the time you spend worrying about shit you can't control is a waste. Go and live your youth anon.

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How do I stop being a Gachikoi for Noel/C?

>> No.39917524

>>39917284
No offense taken, I know where you're coming from and I appreciate it. There's a lot going on in one's life and yeah, >>39917407 this is also part of the equation.

>> No.39922105

Does Canan fan have a Fanname?

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>>39922105
耳舐め兄弟 or 耳穴兄弟
Like 穴兄弟

>> No.39926367

I'm starting to feel like the I'm in the minority itt for liking and looking forward to her lewd content. Everyone here gets so doomposty and nervous about it but she's sexy and I like it.

>> No.39926428

>>39926367
Nah it's just a couple of fags, and anyone that follows her would know that the moment she didn't do stream last weekend she would have two this week so it shouldn't even be a surprise.
Really looking forward to the new plan after seeing what M did, the same thing from someone I actually care about and follow for years will be amazing.

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>>39926367
You're in the majority, so I wouldn't worry about it. She wouldn't be moving forward and doing all this if everyone was against it. I'm one of the occasional doomposters and I know I'm in the minority. It's just because I worry about the fallout but my pessimism could be unfounded and everything will be fine, there will always be haters and antis and that's just life on the internet.
I'll sub to her new plan, and I'll continue to support her because I enjoy her content and like her as a person. I'm looking forward to it because she is incredibly sexy and I want to see what her new plan is like and how she plans to justify 5kyen. There's just a lot of unknowns that she'll probably talk about tonight and as we get closer to the date. But I've been here long enough to know she can say one thing and do another so we'll just have to wait and see.

>>39926428
No shit, Sherlock, it's how she's done it for years, focus on Noel one week and then Canan the other. Pick up on patterns.

>> No.39926761

>>39926428
Wait, Macoto already did a stream on her new plan? When? I didn't see a Twitter notification

>> No.39926846

>>39926761
Nvm, I found it. Apparently she used the same outfit that she did for her most recent NND earlicking stream and that's why I was confused. Makes me wonder if Canan will do the same. /t/ is currently arguing about mega so they're not helpful. Seems like the new plan stream was only a half hour longer than the NND stream so my guess is that the new plan stream contains all of the NND stream plus a half hour of extra lewd stuff? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'd like to know what I'm signing up for before I pay Canan 50k yen.

>> No.39927051

>>39926846
The whole length was a separate, lewder stream than her NND streams, though there was a bit of downtime and awkwardness with figuring out the best poses.
And Canan already promised she'll wear way lewder outfits she can't on NND, but then again so did Macoto an look what she did, once they get the money the can just do whatever and simps won't really mind it seems.
Personally I would wait some months before paying, but the membership card for early adopters and the rewards she promised for being a member for multiple months are temping, though who knows if I'd even be able to get that stuff shipped to my country.

>> No.39927070

Call me a doomposter but I don't know if I'm up for seeing C rub a dildo on her clit like Macoto.

>> No.39927097

>>39927051
Wow a complete different stream but she used the same outfit? Jeezus idk about that. Hopefully Canan doesn't follow suit.

My hope for Canan is that she'll either completely stop the lewd earlicking on the NND and shift it to the new plan or do at most one NND ear licking stream and the new plan (both with different costumes). That way, she frees up space on the NND channel and she can use it for zatsu, cooking, or other normal things. That will cause pretty much the perfect scenario in my mind: she'll be separating the viewers who are only in for the lewd streams and the ones who want the regular streams. Lewd viewers can't complain because she'll have some good stuff (hopefully) on her new plan, the viewers who wanted more non lewd streams get what they want without worry of lewd viewers complaining in chat, and she'll be making some more dough. It's a win for all sides. I'll definitely wait a few months to start Canan's plan. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your view) since Canan is much more well known, her lewd plan streams will be re-uploaded somewhere where you don't even need to download it. So I'll check it out there before I commit.

>> No.39927142

>>39927097
She already said the content on NND and fantia won't change.

>> No.39927218

Does Macoto call this R15?

>> No.39927306

>>39927142
Oh. Well fuck my idea then lol.

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>>39927306
I liked your idea because I came in when she still did cute things like that. Maybe it's because Hololive and Noel are keeping her busy so she can only do a couple streams a week and most people want those earlick streams to fap to but I miss her being cute on camera. Her birthday zatsu was my favorites. I'm willing to give her a chance with the new plan but if it's just more lewd masturbation material for coomers I might end my 2 year membership.

>> No.39927720

>>39927379
I want to ask her or bring it up but she seems so stressed out and busy with the new plan, might just wait. Don't need her worrying about another thing fans want. Plus I think she knows.

>> No.39928552

Coomers are the worst.

>> No.39929397

Fuck you, whoever told me to drop Noel and move to Lamy because I have some concerns. Like you can pick and choose your oshi like some toy in the aisle of your local store. I love Noel, I want what's best for her so of course I'd have some concerns and second thoughts about a new plan where she's putting herself further out there. Sorry if I think an idol of Hololive should have a little class to keep her image and sorry if I worry about antis and haters using her as a weapon against herself and fans. I'll never become an anti, I love her and I've put too much time and money into this to throw it all away like last night's take out. So fuck you for thinking so little of me and my feelings and thinking you can trade oshis like trading cards, fuck you and your high horse.

>> No.39929792

>>39927218
Yup. And I can see where your disbelief is coming from. I'm watching Macoto's sample and this is so not R15. If this was R15 solely because you don't see genitals you can probably get away with a lot. If the sample is any indication, then there are parts of this stream that are just straight up porn (I mean, she pretended to have some pretty intense sex for goodness sake). This makes me worried about the new plan for Canan. I can see Macoto doing this kind of stuff but not Canan, so I don't know how I'll react. And if Canan does the same stuff as Macoto, I really wonder how much Cover will tolerate because yeah, what Macoto did was a lot. I get that there are some JAV actresses who have formed idol groups...idk I'm having a hard time processing.

>> No.39929835

>>39929397
Who told you to move onto Lamy?
>so of course I'd have some concerns and second thoughts about a new plan where she's putting herself further out there
Thats understandable.
>sorry if I worry about antis and haters using her as a weapon against herself and fans
Antis will use anything go look at the Nene tracing thing or the Miko doutei thing. They will use anything against her or even just make stuff up.
>I love her
Then have a little faith in her. She has been streaming as much as Noel as Flare and Pekora so far this year, she has been managing her health better, she has been taking on more projects in Hololive, she has been collabing more, she has been connecting with her colleagues more (compare her interactions with HoloX to Gen 5 in the early days) and she is generally more confident in herself.
Yes she has slip ups like her birthday but compare now to 2020, things are much better now than they were then and I much prefer her now.
You are right to have concerns, but I think you need to wait to see how things play out.
Also its entirely possible to just ignore canan and maybe that would be better for you because things are going better than ever when it comes to Noel.

>> No.39930142

>>39929792
I wanted to see for myself so I got it off NSFW Nyaa. It's straight up softcore porn at parts. She jacks off the dildo and puts it between her thighs which isn't that bad, but then she gets on one knee starts rubbing it against her clit and vagina and tries to shove it in over the underwear until she cums, you can hear her orgasm. Then she puts the dildo between her breasts and acts out a paizuri with fake cum and the whole works. And it's not a vibrator or something phallic, it's a penis looking dildo, she has two in the stream.
I'll give C benefit of the doubt and she might address some worries tonight but that was too much even for Macoto. I hope C doesn't go that far.

>> No.39930205

The store looks nice
https://twitter.com/masimasi0/status/1529412056142999552

>> No.39930362

>>39929835
>Who told you to move onto Lamy
Some d-bag in /jp/ hlg. I had a moment of weakness but I'm better now. You're right, I'm assuming the worse before it's even here, I'll wait and see, I owe her that much. She's helped me through tough times and I don't want to lose her.
If it's too much, I'll try to step back to Noel but that's difficult because the two are so entwined, even /vt/ talks about her since she's so active. But I'll wait and see, my apologies for my meltdown.

>> No.39930452

>>39930142
I ended up getting it too.
>It's straight up softcore porn at parts.
This seems stronger than the softcore stuff I've seen in my life. I mean, to add to what you said, during the fake sex scene (which sounded believable btw) you can LITERALLY hear a slapping sound that's in sync with her movement and she is talking dirty to the viewer the whole time. That's not softcore to me.
>that was too much even for Macoto
I was definitely shocked but I can't say for certain that it was too far for her. Macoto has always been pushing the boundaries on lewd ASMR streams and everyone else just follows suit. I believe she was one of the first to do riding scenes, handjob sim, footjob sim, paizuri sim, ass cams, and incorporating lotion as fake cum along with bringing some of that stuff back after the NND purge. I view Macoto as the type of girl you pick up at the club and end up fucking in the alleyway behind a dumpster while Canan's the loving housewife that you passionately make love to.
>I hope C doesn't go that far
That makes two of us. What I was expecting from Canan's new plan is something on the level of that sexy nun outfit stream from summer of 2020 but with a dildo. I'd be really shocked if she went as far as Macoto did

>> No.39930459

>>39930142
Except for the clit rubbing and cumming those are all things she said she'll do, a bit late to be getting worried now.
And I think those aren't even the worst things, in terms of the damage they can cause, just imagine some anti getting the voice clips of her saying she loves chinpo overlaying it with Noel video and spamming it all over the place.

>> No.39930494

>>39930362
>that's difficult because the two are so entwined, even /vt/ talks about her since she's so active.
That's not true as long as you avoid /hlg/, /hlgg/ and the obvious schizo bait threads. And honestly, you should already know that those threads are cesspools that should be avoided. Only reason why an anon talked about her roommate on the Noel thread on /vt/ is because for some reason that anon wanted to avoid the doomposting on this thread. However, that anon is long gone now. So just go to the Noel thread if you start going schizo over Canan.

>> No.39930519

>>39930459
Don't give them ideas. Though they probably already have plans, there's no end to their depravity

>> No.39930530

>>39930459
Most of the stuff Macoto did on that stream, Canan has also done on NND. I'm fine with those parts and since she's already done them before, it's not as damning to her. The only thing she's never done is the fake sex and the clit rubbing part you mentioned. That concerns me because as you mentioned, that's where antis will get those voice clips. That's the line I hope she never crosses. I believe things will get really worrisome if she does.

>> No.39930601

>>39930362
As I said Noel is doing better than ever before, it would be much better to focus on her.
Thats what I did after the Christmas 2019 meltdown and I only started following Canan again when Noel was playing BoTW.

>> No.39930606

>>39930452
There's already vtubers that do adult ASMRs and this shit so it's nothing new.
The only thing I want for C is to be safe and comfortable and not give into peer pressure. I bet someone will bring this up in the zatsu tonight since their fans overlap. Who knows maybe Canan has already seen it. They'll ask her if she'll do this and that and we'll have to see what she says. If she's trying to hype up her plan she might tease or something but if enough people subscribe and are paying for that material she might feel pressured to do it. See the conundrum I'm having?
But I know, we won't know until the plan comes out and probably a few months as she gets comfortable unless she really wants to blow the doors off and leave a mark that gets people talking. But it doesn't sound like her, so I hope she stays true to herself.

>> No.39930640

>>39930530
Didn't she say she wanted to do this plan because she wanted to use that type of dialogue? Feel like it's inevitable or maybe she already knows it'll happen and has a plan or bracing for it. She's not dumb and has done this for awhile despite having moments of weakness.

>> No.39930658

>>39930606
>See the conundrum I'm having?
Yeah I got you. She does seem like the type of girl who will cave if you are aggressively persistent enough. I trust that she won't though, as we're getting really close to the lines she said that she'd only cross for her future husband/partner and I believe she meant it when she said that she wouldn't cross those lines. Also, I've known a few Catholic/Christian girls who are saving themselves for marriage (I even dated one) and while they are bundles of sexual tension, they will not cave and give in. I figure Canan would be the same.

>> No.39930671

>>39930658
Yeah. Just got to have faith.
Wish I could be that husband...

>> No.39930673

>>39930530
>>39930640
Yeah the dialogue wouldn't have anything to do with the fake sex, she said she's tired of hiding her words, she wants to say chinpo and cumming and semen, full on オナサポ.

>> No.39930716

>>39930640
>Didn't she say she wanted to do this plan because she wanted to use that type of dialogue?
I believe she did but again, I'm framing this solely on what Macoto did/said during that fake sex scene and the clit rubbing. To me, that's where things get iffy. If Canan wants to talk like how Macoto was in any of the other scene from that streams, then by all means because as you said, she's done things on that level before (just with different wordage). How those lewd words were delivered by Macoto during those two scenes were just on a whole nother level than what I'm accustomed to from Canan. Basically, if Canan's stream was the same as Macoto's minus the fake sex and the clit rubbing, I'll have no worries.

>> No.39930722

>>39930494
>That's not true as long as you avoid /hlg/, /hlgg/ and the obvious schizo bait threads. And honestly, you should already know that those threads are cesspools that should be avoided.
They're sometimes the only ones discussing the stream. Even her discord is dead most the time and the thread is only a couple people.

>>39930601
How did you do it? I feel like having the knowledge of C would be too tempting to pass up. That's how I got here, I wanted more Noel and found her other identity.

>> No.39930760

>>39930722
>They're sometimes the only ones discussing the stream
Then don't freak out when some random anon calls Noel a whore or says anything else horrible about her because you know those threads are full of schizos and antis. Going in there expecting to only have civil discussion about Noel and getting triggered when it's not is like going into a fight and getting mad when you get punched in the face.

>> No.39930870

>Tweets this out when she's an hour out from a Canan stream
Who she fooling?
https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1529430608631701504

>> No.39930936

>>39930722
She didn't stream much in January but the incident was fresh in my mind then so it was easier, but after that there was a lot going on Dark Souls, GOI, Little Witch Nobeta, Sankisei offcollab etc. so it was easy to be distracted.
She was also way more of a mess back then and I knew that following Canan would be a bad idea.

>> No.39930945

>>39930870
She's not trying to fool anyone anon, take it easy

>> No.39930955

>>39930936
Guess I should count myself fortunate I wasn't around back then.

>> No.39930972

>>39930870
>All those users with swords and microphones in their names
It's the worst kept secret in Hololive. She knows, we know.

>> No.39931195

>>39930205
It looks really nice... hopefully there's some leftover stock that will make it online, I want the socks at the very least

>> No.39931223

Forgive me, but I was watching old C vidoes and this one was around Christmas time, seems like something spooks her at the end? Didn't know what that was about and if someone could explain it, my Japanese isn't very good. It's litter so it'll only be up for an hour.
https://litter.catbox.moe/rf90hx.mp4

>> No.39931375

I'll never get why discussion around C is so fucking insufferable; looking forward to the new plan.

>>39931223
She was worried she'd shown her face, you can see the lower half when she moves to check the recording (very start of your clip).

>> No.39931455

>>39931375
>I'll never get why discussion around C is so fucking insufferable; looking forward to the new plan.
It's the perfect venn diagram of people wanting to jack off to her, people wanting to save her, and people wanting to marry her. All mixed in with antis and trolls.

>> No.39931520
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Shes got nice feet. Way better than most Japanese women. This stream in general was wild. Someone in chat was saying they couldn't "hold it in" anymore and she points right to her soles and says cum right here. Had to be removed from Nico obviously. Not a fan of dildo stuff but looking forward to her higher tiers if only for the possibility for more of this.

>> No.39931599

>>39931375
What is there to fucking discuss?
"Oh man, that earlick stream was the best, just the right about of slurp and drool." We don't post pictures, we don't post clips or videos, aside from zatsus, there's nothing to discuss.

>> No.39931657

Those pyjamas are really cute

>> No.39931683

>>39931657
They are and she's really excited to show them off.

>> No.39931688

She is so short

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So cute

>> No.39931727

Why is Nozomi's mark that meat thing?
I don't follow her.

>> No.39931755

Did people really ask how she and Nozomi met? Do people really not know about Noel and Mtasuri?

>> No.39931836

She's always fidgeting and moving when talking. She's very animated.

>> No.39931843

>>39931836
Its cute

>> No.39931894

>Just takes off her pants
Okay

>> No.39931902

>>39931755
No, they want to see what she comes up with.

>> No.39932061

Lol she wants a brown or black dildo.

>> No.39932078

>>39932061
How is that an lol moment?

>> No.39932101

>>39932078
She wants to get blacked.

>> No.39932107

>>39931520
Only thing is when it's obvious she's been on her feet all day or had dance rehearsals so she has blisters, calluses, or sores.

>> No.39932118

>>39932101
Yeah, I'm not fucking laughing.

>> No.39932214

>>39932118
It's just funny because she doesn't understand the implications of what she said and just wanted to be "inclusive"

>> No.39932235

If she wants to do collabs with friends, she might need to get over hiding her face unless she gets a 2.5D model.

>> No.39932267

>>39932214
She can't be this naive. She reads doujins and watches porn.

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Are we dead?

>> No.39932424

>>39932400
For some reason, she says she's the pig too

>> No.39932442

>>39932424
I was always unclear who was the pig. It was always a sort of mascot but not sure for her or us.

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Nice

>> No.39932644

Huh, I wasn't paying attention, does she use that bounce stopper to dance?

>> No.39932660

>>39932644
To exercise

>> No.39932760

So small.

>> No.39932841

I kind of zoned out there for a while then Flare's stream distracted me because she started talking about Noel. Did she mention anything about different ASMRs? I submitted a question but not sure if she got to it, she sometimes rambles.

>> No.39932970

>>39932841
No, send her a streamlabs donation and she'll read it.

>> No.39932991

>>39932970
Meh, don't know if I care that much. Maybe later, she seems busy with a lot in her mind.

>> No.39933122

>>39932991
It also helps if you know Japanese.

>> No.39933140

>>39933122
That too.

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I regret opening her Stream Labs, you can see top donations and some guy donated over $3,000 to her.
So much for maybe winning her over by being a whale...

>> No.39933622

>>39933389
>winning her over by being a whale
This has never worked. Women don't respect men who dump money on them and they aren't even dating.

>> No.39933644

>>39933622
But the story I heard of the one chuuba that gave up and started dating their whale.
There was also the Rushia leaks where she DM'd her biggest whales. I just need an in.

>> No.39933725

>>39933644
Just talk to a woman in real life.

>> No.39933734

>>39933725
But I want Canan...

>> No.39933772

>>39933734
It's not realistic.

>> No.39933794

It’s pretty crazy people think Canan charging a hundred dollars a month would be drastic when you have people like Shion, Luna and Roboco with a tier that high and they go a month without posting anything sometimes. She legit is too good for some of her fans.

>> No.39933834

>>39933644
a few have actually dated whales if the dude is at least charming and presentable enough happened to a ASMR tuber I followed and she was upfront about why she was quitting in her leaving post. Saying that Canan would be almost impossible to hook that way.

>> No.39933877

>>39933834
>>39933772
Yeah...
More a fantasy than a dream...

>> No.39934138

>>39933794
A hundred dollars a month is absurd and anyone paying that for any of them have more money than sense.

>> No.39934702

Her rap skills are pretty good

>> No.39935077

Canan has nice tits

>> No.39936424

I worry about the new plan and it's repercussions for Noel but then I remember that Choco and Mel's roommates basically did the same thing just without cams and so I feel better.

>> No.39936659

>>39933389
>$3000
Christ I used to be a gacha whale and this excessive. That's a down payment on a new car in some places.

>> No.39936677

>>39931599
Idk, opinions on her outfits, what we'd like her to wear in the future, impressions of the ASMR? I think we can figure something to talk about concerning her ear licking streams.

>> No.39936701

I really want her to do a stream in just lingerie.

>> No.39938319
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>4.5 hour stream
Could I get a quick rundown, please? Did she say anything about the new plan? Anything about this summer? Did anything cute? I'd very much appreciate it.

>> No.39938499

>>39926581
Does this hamu have a name? (Goodness that hamster might be a fatter than Popchan)

>> No.39938809

>Loses Fantia access because my credit card company thinks it's fraud
>Couldn't fix it immediately because I was busy
>Finally talked to the credit card company. Spokeswoman says that she's cleared the purchase and the site won't be flagged
>Tries to sign up for her Fantia again
>Error
I fucking hate this site. Just allow PayPal as well!

>> No.39939668

Did she talk about Macoto's new video? Curious if she's seen it or if people brought it up.

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>>39938319
>>39939668
I was only listening on the background but I don't think she talked about macoto, only stuff about the plan I heard the same as before, coming summer with 3 tiers, 500, 5k and 10k yen.
Something new she said that I remember is that she won't use a reverse bunny suit but she does really want to use a transparent one, with pasties and panties, also something that stood out to me was she when said she's really looking forward to saying ドピュ at the "finish", honestly I've never though voicing out loud sound effects like that is hot but I guess she's read too many doujins.

>> No.39940091

>>39939723
>she won't use a reverse bunny suit
Either she's backtracking already or she's finding out she can't be a lewd as she thought. That bunny outfit is still a little risque but not as bad being basically nude on camera. Hopefully this is what her new plan is, just lewder outfits and additional dialogue until she feels comfortable to go further. The Macoto video was quite a shock so as long as C isn't cumming on camera, I should be ok. She's still on NND, right? So she probably can't go all the way until she creates her own website and video player like Macoto.

>> No.39940130

>>39940091
Mind you that it's purely speculation so far, but I wouldn't be surprised if the new plan is on the platform that Macoto and Hololive currently use, Macoto for her more risky plan and Hololive for the fan club thing, as far as I understand it's just another extension of NND (managed by the same people) but with less restrictions since NND was getting heat for the lewd stuff on their site from credit card companies

>> No.39940157

>>39940091
She's literally getting the same service as Macoto.
The way these Fanclub websites work is that they're all run by the same parent company as NicoNico, and it's already being used for the Hololive Official Fanclub, they get their own domain but it's still generic template sites.
Considering how close Macoto and Canan started talking about this what I'm guessing is that NND people are offering this service to their big channels, be it Hololive or individuals like the other two, and in this case they wanted to offer to them a place where they could be lewder while still staying under their "umbrella".
>>39940130
It's not even speculation, she has openly hinted about it when talking about Macoto, kinda saying it like "I can't say anything official now but yes it is the same thing that other streamer is using".

>> No.39940159

>>39939723
This girl watches way too much porn, like I'm pretty confident in saying that she's deeper into rabbit hole than anyone here. I know she has talked on stream a number of time that she doesn't watch AV because she doesn't like that it features men, but there's a lot of AV that doesn't have to feature men and a sea of stuff in between, I mean same person who proudly said she spends around 50k yen a month on lewd girls from fantia/fanbox.
Some people might take it the wrong way, but I find it oddly charming, she's just a very likable weirdo, is it healthy? Probably not, but it's harmless

>> No.39940200

>>39940159
>she doesn't like that it features men
It this a thing where it just makes her awkward and embarrassed or is she just a closet lesbian?

>> No.39940207

>>39940157
>Hololive Official Fanclub
Is that worth signing up for or is it still in the development stages? I've actually never heard of it. Is there Noel stuff on it?

>> No.39940242

>>39940200
I think it's probably just that the men in JAV are VERY most of the time and even when they aren't she has talked several times before about how she doesn't find ikemen attractive, so there really isn't anything out there for her.
Things like gravure IVs probably feel safer for her

>> No.39940245

>>39940242
*VERY ugly most of the time.

>> No.39940259

>>39940245
Can't argue with that. I barely watch JAVs because the guys are ugly and now the girls are getting there too with their snaggle teeth and shit.

>> No.39940261

>>39940207
It's just the same stuff they did for members in NND, uruwashuu, plus some new show and "afterparties" for some big 3D streams, the new show is about inviting some veteran seiyuu or idol and they give the holos lessons, so far Noel has been in one episode. I haven't watched any of them but they look interesting.

>> No.39940270

>>39940261
You have to pay 550 yen a month or 6,600 a year. I didn't want to pay for it and get no content, so I think I'll hold off.

>> No.39940283

>>39940200
She says she doesn't like the 生々しさ, I guess the seeing the actual act and dicks going in can look pretty grotesque to some.

>> No.39940299

>>39940270
Just 550 for the actual content, and it's guaranteed one of those lesson streams a month and some wallpapers, I think the other stuff is irregular though. I guess the main attraction is if you actually know those famous seiyuu and idols and want to see them interact with holos.

>> No.39940307

>>39940283
I mean, I'm a guy and I'm not fond of this squid like appendage I have. I can get why girls don't care, especially someone like her who probably gets dick pic after dick pic.

>> No.39940310

>>39940299
The initial portion of those streams is free so it's pretty easily to tell early on if they're for you or not

>> No.39943281

>>39932101
Porn as rotted your soul.

>> No.39946144

She's live.

>> No.39946176

>>39946144
She sounds exhausted

>> No.39946187

>>39946176
She's was brushing her teeth a second ago, just lied down on the bed.

>> No.39948934

Is she ok? Why are her lar two videos called "I'm hungry" and "Vomiting"

>> No.39949297

>>39928552
she is a coomer herself

>> No.39949313

>>39930142
women moment pretending to cum

>> No.39949915

My only fear about Noel's face is she has fucked up teeth. That's so common in Japan and the community and one of my biggest gripes. The other rumors about her chin or cheeks I can get around.

>> No.39949992

>>39928552
That's a bizarre thing to complain about following a girl who's content is designed to make you cum

>> No.39950071

>>39917407
Why does everyone call her C?

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>>39949992
I want to marry her, ok?!?! I want to take care of her every day of my life. I want to make sure she eat properly and not skipping meals. I want to make sure she's resting and not stressing herself out and experiencing burnout and fatigue. I want to hold her every night so she no longer lonely and depressed. I want her to vent all her frustrations to me. I want to see Japan with her and experience the sites and history. I want to wake up and make her breakfast talk about our day ahead. I want to cuddle with her watching anime or TV as we discuss our likes and interests. I want to experience the rest of life with her.

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>>39949915
Don't worry, she has good teeth. She used to have pretty bad teeth but around university she got braces and had them fixed, she has talked about it in some streams

>> No.39950457

>>39950363
I've seen some pretty fucked up teeth in Japan. Apparently some even do it on purpose because it's supposed to be cute or they're doing it like an anime fang or some shit but it looks like a fucking snaggletooth. Disgusting.

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Would learning Japanese add anything to listening to C's ASMR streams, or am I not missing much?

>> No.39950621

>>39950587
For me it's a double edged sword.
I want to learn better my understanding of Japanese so I can understand her streams and what she's talking about because she's interesting and fun.
On the other, I can't stand English ASMRs, there's something about the mysterious nature of the Japanese language that makes it seductive and calming.

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>>39933877
>>39950190
My fellow schizo brethren, I implore you to acknowledge your delusions BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

>> No.39951410

>>39951216
I know it's not possible and this is just a phase I'm working through but it has actually made me reevaluate my life and improve myself. Started going to gym more, eating better, sleeping regular hours, take my job more seriously, going back to school to finish my bachelor's. I might never be able to be with her but I can be someone worthy of her.

>> No.39951416

>>39951410
Ha! Have fun with that, fag. I'll be actually dating my oshi while you're busy with that.

>> No.39951417

>>39951216
Anon stop. It's...it's too late for him. He's too far gone. Let him be at peace. And let us have a moment of silence for our comrade.

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>>39951416
What have I done?

>> No.39951430

>>39951410
>Going back to school to finish my bachelor's.
For the love of God anon please major in something useful. If it's not useful just go get certified in a trade. I wish you the best.

>> No.39951542

>>39950190
I just want to jerk off to her

>> No.39951938

The popup store opened today so I guess watch Yahoo Aucitons or Buyee if you want to get shit if you're overseas. I did see some comments from Japanese who don't live in Tokyo who are upset they can't get the merch. It's very limited it seems which is a shame.

>> No.39951965

>>39951938
Hopefully the store does well so she feels inclined to do more stuff like it, hopefully at a bigger scale

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>>39951965
She went through BOOTH before when she sold merch. You can get proxies to order through them, and they ship within Japan. I really feel like this was all Nozomi's idea because she's done it before and probably had connections and a deal.

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>The pictures coming out of this popup

>> No.39952616
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The keychains are really cute.

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>>39952616

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>>39952631

>> No.39952644
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>>39952636
Cute socks.

>> No.39952659

>>39952644
I want cute C socks...

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>>39952644

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>Empty

>> No.39952840

What are all these images of? Is this a con? I haven't visited /jp/ before.

>> No.39952862

>>39952840
She currently has a small pop-up shop in collaboration with Matsuri's roommate. It's like a small limited time store front to sell themed merch, there's a lot more pics on her hastag

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>>39952862
Ah, shit. That explains it. I wandered over here from /jp/. I know nothing of roommates and what all is going on with them.

>> No.39952876

>>39952863
Yes, on /jp/ we can discuss roommates so if you don't want to go down that rabbit hole, probably best to keep to /vt/.

>> No.39952880

>>39952876
Oh no, that's fine. I don't mind RM talk. I'm just saying I don't know anything about RMs, so I didn't know what all that was about. Thanks for the explanation, though.

>> No.39953167

Not surprised but most reports are it's like 90% guys at the store. Thought she had more female fans.

>> No.39953291

>>39953167
I kinda get why maybe girls wouldn't be comfortable showing up to a place like that, also didn't she say it was around 20% female viewership, it's not that far off

>> No.39953322

>>39950587
It would add a lot to her zatsudan stream for sure

>> No.39953359

>>39953322
Thing with me and Japanese is I always start and commit and then I hit those waves of discouragement where I feel like I'm not progressing at all and I stop.
I have no idea how much time it will take for me to sit here and listen to her Zatsu and ASMR and actually be able to understand it. This is coming from English, by the way.

>> No.39953376

>>39952739
are those two heart covered gals they?

>> No.39953380

>>39953376
Probably sales associates.

>> No.39953430

>>39953167
The lack of female attendance makes sense. They'd probably get hit on immediately if they showed up.

>> No.39953443

I don't know about you guys but I would not feel comfortable walking into a place like that.

>> No.39953446

>>39953430
Or they travel in large groups to stop that.

>> No.39953449

>>39953380
How do you think those associates were feeling during the whole thing? Seething? Reflecting their life choices? Disgust at the fans there? Wanting to GTFO as soon as possible? Something else? Doubt they get paid much

>> No.39953460

>>39953449
I imagine they're paid just fine because it's Japan and also they're probably used to it. This shit happens all the time because it's Japan.

>> No.39953473

>>39953446
But do you really think a bunch of girls (at least 3 or more) would go "hey, let's all gather during the day to this mall and buy merch and support our favorite YouTubers! One of which is kinda vulgar and the other is a softcore pornstar! Oh and there will definitely be creepy dudes there!" I don't see it.

>> No.39953477

>>39950587
When I first discovered her, I didn't speak any JP. Just enjoyed her ASMR because she was damned good at it. Now I'm about N3 level and can understand most of the stuff she says.
She is incredibly good at making you feel special and taking care of you. She never addresses the chat "in general", she's always trying to address you personally while doing ASMR. Like it's just an intimate moment between you and her.
I'm generally a pretty lonely person irl so she got me hook line and sinker with that stuff. Those sleep along streams she's been doing recently are the actual bane of my existence. She's just the right blend of flirty, dorky, inexperienced and ecchi during those streams that I've completely fallen for her.
So yeah, what knowing JP will "add" to her ASMR is that you'll absolutely gachikoi for her.

>> No.39953481

>>39953443
Why not? Especially since you can wear a mask to cover your identity.

>> No.39953494

>>39953481
IMAGINE THE SMELL

>> No.39953527

>>39953481
i don't care about covering my identity. it's just the fact that everybody there is a degen gachikoi that has probably busted countless nuts to her makes it really weird.

>> No.39953528

>>39953494
They're still doing covid protocol so it's only a few people in the store which is why it looks empty. It probably doesn't smell that bad, I've been to cons and nothing will ever beat when I walked into a men's bathroom and immediately walked out. I just went back to the hotel to piss.

>> No.39953545

>>39953477
What would you recommend for someone who just wants to understand it? Everything I've done starts with reading and identifying characters which is usually where new languages start. I guess there's no short cuts with this stuff.

>> No.39953695

>>39953545
How I did it:
Learn Hiragana and Katakana in a few days.
Start Wanikani to learn kanji and always do your daily reps. Wanikani is paid but imo absolutely worth it since it also explains radicals and teaches you vocab at same time. Kanji become manageable once you properly understand radicals.
Work through a core 2k vocabulary list to learn to most common words at the same time as you're doing Wanikani.
When you have about 100-200 kanji learned, start a grammar guide. I used Tae Kim since it's free, pretty good, and covers everything you need for daily convo's.

All this will take a few months to finish, but after that the hardest and most boring part is over and you'll have a solid grasp of the basics. After that just go full on immersion. Just consume heaps of raw Japanese content. Google or use cure dolly to look up unknown grammar you find along the way and make Anki flashcards of new vocab you find in the wild.

Oh, and don't join any Japanese learning communities/threads/discords, etc. They don't actually help and will do nothing but kill your motivation.

>> No.39953721

>>39953695
Thanks, I'll give it try.

>> No.39953818

>>39953695
You said it'll take a few days. How many hours per day is that based on?

>> No.39953873

>>39953359
Don’t think about how much time you need. Just do at your own pace. I usually listen to her zatsudan and write down any vocabulary that I don’t know to look it up later. Grammar needs a lot of time but you’ll get there eventually.

>> No.39954017

>>39953818
Hiragana and Katakana I knocked out in like 4-5 days. You shouldn't spend too much time on this. They'll be burned into your brain anyway since you'll be using it a lot.

Wanikani is something I did daily for a little over a year for about 30 minutes every day. I stopped around level 40 (1300ish kanji) since at that point I started burning out and diminishing returns is a thing. With those 1300ish kanji you can read about 92% of the kanji used on Japanese twitter. The rest I just look up if I find them in the wild and put into my anki if I feel like they're useful.

Core 2k I didn't do that seriously, but they're more "handy to know". I find that finding words in the wild, in context, sticks way better than just learning off of a vocab list.

Tae Kim took like 4 months of doing 1 or 2 chapters every day. I didn't do it that quickly since grammar needs time and seeing it used in the wild to let it set it.

So for the first 6 or so months, I did anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours of actual "study" daily, while watching and trying to understand hololive streams in my free time. That's also why I called it the boring part. These are the basics you unfortunately need to grind into your brain.

Now I just do like 15 minutes of anki reps everyday and just consume raw Japanese content.

Learning Japanese is not a race. All the info needs time to set it. There is no deadline. Just do it at your own pace. The only rule is that you HAVE to do it every day.

>> No.39954070

>>39954017
Which Holo mems do you recommend watching to try to get used to Japanese with? I've heard Lui-nee is good.

>> No.39954136

>>39954070
Just watch whoever is your oshi. Wouldn't say any of the members use "more difficult" Japanese compared to the others. Only thing that really tends to help is if they speak slowly like during ASMR or just Okayu's general speaking style.
I used to and still watch a ton of Ohasuba since I'm a Subatomo and the stuff she talks about is pretty interesting.
Disregard all of this if Marine is your oshi. She is the actual final boss of JP reps

>> No.39954142

Coco was pretty good but obviously she's not around anymore.

>> No.39954194

>>39954136
I actually find Canan as most difficult since she often brings up adult topics like tax report and medical problems.

>> No.39954428

>>39954194
Yeah, zatsudan Canan is up there in terms of difficulty. I always have dictionary open on the side while watching those streams. ASMR Canan or Noel isn't that hard tho.

>> No.39954727

>>39954136
>Final boss of JP reps
Why is Marine so hard?

>> No.39955509

>>39954727
Talks quickly, jumps from one obscure otaku topic to the next, leaves out a lot of context because she assumes chat already knows, does playful banter with her chat a lot that's a little hard to follow. Stuff like that.

>> No.39955578

>>39954070
Watch Nijisanji since they speak like normal humans, Hololive members talk like children.

>>39955509
>obscure otaku topic
Marine is a normalfag and so are you, get out of /jp/

>> No.39955592

>>39955578
Nobody asked

>> No.39955608

>>39955592
Fuck off back to /vt/ or reddit

>> No.39955629

>>39955608
You first. No one gives a shit about Niji and Noel is better off in Hololive.

>> No.39955656

>>39955629
Fuck off you brought up the normalfag pirate for no reason.

>> No.39955694

>>39955656
There's really no escape from you, is there? You fuck up the /vt/ thread and now you're on /JP/? Just the shit stain that won't wash out.

>> No.39955718

>>39955694
Go make a Marine thread or better yet go back to /vt/.

>> No.39957243

Noel should quit hololive and join Nijisanji already.

>> No.39957704

>>39957243
China wouldn't let her keep her roommate job. Niji needs to stop bootlicking the CCP.

>> No.39957832

>>39957243
You're on /jp/ too? Is starting shit between Noel and Marine a part time job of yours? How the hell did you even find out about this exchange in a fucking Noel thread?

>> No.39957856

>>39957832
Who are you even talking about? I'm just continuing on what >>39955578 said

>> No.39957901

>>39957832
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the "tourist" that came in earlier pretending to be stupid

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>>39957901
Would you care to tag that tourist? And also post Noel art to give the actual thread topic a fresh breath of life?

>> No.39957915

>>39957832
Marinefags are just that bad.

>> No.39957980

>>39957910
Threads about to die.

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>>39957980
It's never a bad time to post Noel.

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>>39958001
Now there’s something I can wholeheartedly agree with!

>> No.39961716

I thought it was shorter like 3 minutes call. Also, the contrast is jarring. https://youtu.be/mbLmxcweXeQ

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