/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Yuzuha_YouTube/status/1525607600250712064
What is ゆっくり茶番劇 and why is japan freaking out about how it's fucking with ZUN somehow?

[Anonymous No.]

My posts keep getting eaten...
Something about something with "Yukkuri" in the name being trademarked? My Japanese skills are garbage.
The Twitter/YT seems to have some yukkuri content as well.

[Anonymous No.]

https://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E3%82%86%E3%81%A3%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8A%E8%8C%B6%E7%95%AA%E5%8A%87

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ohGryHSotNA
Some fag patent troll company registered trademark for the yukkuri voice. Can't make yukkuri let's plays, yukkuri explaination videos anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817627
>patent troll company
So should I take this seriously or not? I like yukkuris, a shame if yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817627
On one hand I hate copyright/trademark trolling but on the other hand I hate those yukkuri videos with all my heart
Also isn't the voice just the default for UTAU? That seems like it could spiral fast if the UTAU devs cared.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817627
> registered trademark for the yukkuri voice
You mean the generic SofTalk voicebank voice? That's not even legal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817627
I figured it was something along those lines but I couldn't comprehend the fact someone would be that retarded. Also when I refreshed twitter seems like the guy who did it is tied to UUUM, which is apparently a youtube network, so I don't know if it was a company or instead just one dedicated retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817627
Then buy them.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank you for your support

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817766
https://www.change.org/p/%E3%82%86%E3%81%A3%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8A%E8%8C%B6%E7%95%AA%E5%8A%87%E3%81%AE%E5%95%86%E6%A8%99%E7%99%BB%E9%8C%B2%E3%82%92%E6%92%A4%E5%9B%9E%E3%81%95%E3%81%9B%E3%81%9F%E3%81%84?recruiter=false&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=c44675c0-d410-11ec-85dd-4325fedfaeaf

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817352
Anyone can explain what relation have Zun and the Slow chaban?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817627
I have a feeling ZUN isn't going to challenge this or defend his derivative ownership of yukkuris, the legal footing for this seems tenuous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817352
The audacity of this cunt, bitch van't even get 10k views on his videos.
Seems like he won't back down unless something with an expensive enough lawyer comes up.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/korindo/status/1525762964426756096

[Anonymous No.]

>>39819522
Well I guess they got their 10 seconds of exposure.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Yuzuha_YouTube/status/1525778213968179201
>claiming yukkuri chabangeki had nothing todo with touhou project
>will call police if threaten
https://www.youtube.com/c/ChannelTamayuraofficial20170210/videos
>touhou character in the thumbnail
IN THE NAME OF GOD, PLEASE JUST DIE ALREADY

[Anonymous No.]

>>39819522
>113k likes
Holy shit. Touhou is doing just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817352
Man what's with all the legal stuff lately? First ZUN's DMCA wave and now some nobody is apparently exploiting a loophole to kill off (or profit off of) yukkuri. Troubled times we live in.

Hopefully no existing content is lost because this fag starts filing takedowns or something, it's pretty clear he's just playing the system but I guess there's the odd chance he manages to get away with it depending on how seriously ZUN treats this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817627
It's the name of ゆっくり茶番劇 used in videos
He tried to get away with it by saying he's copyright a title of his own video that has no relation to touhou

[Anonymous No.]

>>39818557
Yeah, even though he owns the characters they're typically drawn as I don't really think he has any place to protect what is basically a weird internet meme. I feel like you'd have to find the original anon who did the ASCII art...which is probably impossible since anyone can say they made it.
I don't think anyone can do anything unless he actually did claim to own the voices for the dramas as well, which are owned by an actual company.
>>39820514
Everyone realized the potential and missed profits you can make off of Touhou themed works and wants to have their slice of the pie now. Expect to see more of this nonsense with other works.
I dread to think I'd have to start archiving Yukkuri works just to save an artists works, but if it needs to be done...

[Anonymous No.]

>>39823134
If the copyright has already been registered in his name, doesn't that make it so he has complete control over the usage of the name "yukkuri"? I wonder if it's time to start worrying about One Yukkuri Place again and other similar things. In the best case scenario he's just doing this for attention and nothing comes of it, but he seems like a real stuck-up prick from >>39818608 and I fully expect the worst. A shame there's no lawyer anons around to shed light on things, but I can't imagine any good coming from this.

It makes me think of how Homeworld Cataclysm had to change it's name to Homeworld Emergence because Blizzard copyrighted the word "Cataclysm" despite it being like a 10 year old game by that point. Legal shenanigans are ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39823333
>doesn't that make it so he has complete control over the usage of the name "yukkuri"?
Someone having complete control over a very common Japanese word is a bit absurd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817352
It’s just another copyright fag
This happens pretty often
There was a guy who copyrighted an alternative title for touhou i believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>39823649
Hundred dollar fine for using DONGFANG project
>>39823442
There's been attemps before. Off the top of my head there was someone trying to trademark the term "yume kawaii" which are also two very common words.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Amadeus0083/status/1525708434011656192
From what I understood, nips are saying that his copyright may be invalid because one of the requirements for filling one is that the general public associates your product with the thing you're copyrighting.
Even if it fails in court, can't ZUN file a DMCA for the fag's videos for using his characters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39823756
ZUN could but then that opens another can of worms, what's to stop him from just DMCAing anyone doing anything he doesn't like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39823780
>what's to stop him from just DMCAing anyone doing anything he doesn't like?
But ZUN can already DMCA anyone he doesn't like. He did it with that crowndfunded Touhou fangame and with Moriya Shrine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39823896
I meant more so on a wider scale i.e someone making a shitpost video that isn't to his taste
Every option can potentially spiral out of control if allowed

[Anonymous No.]

>>39823896
Neither of those were about how he didn't like it, the former was breaking the rules he had set for well over a decade and the latter was the most limp-dicked DMCA attempt in the world and for good reason. The only reason why official works went down too was because the guys at the Moriya Shrine had to double check and make sure they weren't getting copyright trolled (which they technically were, kill yourself H*kanaiblue), and they found said DMCA request from ZUN.

A year and some change ago. ZUN was perfectly fine with letting that email get ignored and the only reason ANYONE acted on it was because now they saw it and were worried about the legal consequences, despite the fact that there clearly would be none after all this time and it was just an obligation thing. Maybe one day retards will read the whole story instead of jumping to "DAE ZUN HATE PIRATES???111?!!".

[Anonymous No.]

>>39824702
It's incredible how persistent the sensationalist version of the story is when the full story was dug out in the same 2-3 threads made while it was an ongoing story.

[Anonymous No.]

I was skeptical about Yuzuha/Tamayura's channel having 200K+ subscribers despite barely having any views and I think the channel is stolen or bought.
It's "Prinstor Zed" on the Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20190621115429/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJQ9KkOhJwO-2UvE4eTCqIA
Videos were in Spanish for a whole year until 2020: https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCJQ9KkOhJwO-2UvE4eTCqIA/videos?sortTypeId=11
I doubt "Prinstor Zed" was the original owner either considering he barely had any views even back then.
The channel exists 2017 but I've yet to find any proof that Yuzuha was the original owner of the channel, that is existed before 2020.
Also notice how Yuzuha has actually bled subscribers since the "Prinstor Zed" times back in 2019.
The only thing currently in his favor is that he displays his Silver Play Button (100k subscribers) with his previous name Tamayura.
But I'm sure even that could be explained by Youtube being slow or the previous owner not claiming it or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39824702

[Anonymous No.]

>>39826756
>(I also sent a DMCA to Cloudflare on May 19, 2021. Did you not receive it then?)

Source:
https://moriyashrine.org/forums/topic/988-dmca-moriya-shrine/?do=findComment&comment=6658

[Anonymous No.]

>>39826756
Adding onto >>39826823
https://twitter.com/HakanaiBlue/status/1508999668788862984 is a literal admission and what caused this whole spiral to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

wow I can’t believe there are fucking jews in Japan, this is why is support shooting them and also niggers
1488, praise kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>39827856
the feds aren't sending their best, huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>39826214
The Twitter account he's proudly bragging about this all on also seems likely to be bought as well. What with it having 16.4k followers despite the complete lack of engagement before this.
Or maybe they were stolen, wouldn't put it past a guy willing to do a scam like this to also scam other people out of social media accounts to take for himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39829487
That's very likely. People are claiming that it was previously a different youtuber's twitter account:
https://twitter.com/Aqlx_/status/1525758986905038848
There's also a DM being shared around of Yuzuha trying to buy a verified twitter account:
https://twitter.com/8_Lakun/status/1525776886609354753
I think he just bought the accounts but they could very well be stolen goods, especially the Mexican youtube account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39829979
At the end of the day does him buying the account mean anything other than exposing a clearly bad actor even more? Unless the logic runs it course to "he didn't actually copyright/trademark it and is just pretending" which we already know as false, or "getting the channel/twitter banned" which also does nothing, I don't really see the point to any of it. Beyond laughing at him being a total retard.
Actually, I think I see the point now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39830911
He might've been a copyright troll from the very beginning but it doesn't matter either way.
Things are not looking great since the patent office doubled down on their decision:
https://www.kaipat.com/%e3%80%8c%e3%82%86%e3%81%a3%e3%81%8f%e3%82%8a%e8%8c%b6%e7%95%aa%e5%8a%87%e3%80%8d%e3%81%ab%e3%81%a4%e3%81%84%e3%81%a6/

Basically, as long as something doesn't have nationwide popularity the trolls can just copyright it and destroy it.
They're obviously lying out of their asses by claiming ゆっくり茶番劇 only had a few ten thousand internet search results at the time.
There are millions of search results on Google, well over 100k results in the video tab alone, not to mention that the shitstorm alone probably involves millions of people at this point.
But it doesn't matter, most Touhou memes and subcultures won't fulfill the requirements anyway.
Touhou antis are already on the move planning to copyright whatever Touhou fan culture they can get their hands on. Doujin culture is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39831082
>Touhou antis are already on the move planning to copyright whatever Touhou fan culture they can get their hands on. Doujin culture is dead.
You could have stopped right there and not revealed you were a total doomer, props on you for being retarded enough to continue though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39826823
>>39829979
I thought it was just some guy being an obnoxious attentionwhore but this is actually pretty interesting if true. Why go through all the trouble of buying premade Twitter and Youtube accounts? I feel like this is the kind of thing where 10 years from now it'll be some crazy story behind it but all we can really do is guess at the motivations for now I guess.

Perhaps it is more surprising that this fandom has remained unmolested of stuff like this for so long. Only takes one guy with a stick up his ass to ruin things for others. I can't imagine them making any money off this, my money's on it being some bitter hikki trying to spite the fandom because one of those yukkuri youtubers pissed him off or something. It's just too specific a niche to target.

[Anonymous No.]

No matter what the result of the incident is, it's still concerning that this became as big of an issue as it is. Made me think, is there a GPL equivalent that could work as legal protection? Maybe CC?

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/itm_nlab/status/1526049353395503104
Oh hey, there's bomb threats now too. Five bones it's deflection from the fag in question.
>>39831266
It's Japan. Japanese copyright law is somehow even more of a joke than American. The best thing you could really do in this scenario aside from having the people who own the copyrights used (and that's only two groups by technicality which in of itself makes it impossibly complex) is just changing the name used for these videos since legally the only thing trademarked was the name itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39831323
Oh, or the company who approved the patent because apparently that's a thing getting de-legitimized, but I barely know enough about my own countries copyright laws let alone Japans to know how that process would work. Just saw it on twitter under 数万件程度 right after I made the post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39831323
I'm curious what happens to ゆっくり茶番 now since it's the signifcantly more popular name of the genre but has only one letter less.
I doubt the patent office even factored in that name and it could be popular enough not to be eligible by their standards but most people seem to assume that it can't be used anymore due to its similarity.
I think ゆっくり劇場 is also mostly a synonym and another similar name.
Going even further, I think they should've based their decision on ゆっくり since that's the actual content. The suffix is just the genre.
Basing the decision on one specific name for a subgenre is probably why they underestimated its popularity in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39831346
Pretty funny skimming through the Japanese comments, they're pissed. The popular opinion seems to be that they think he's planning to use the trademark to collect fees off the yukkuri name. By the way, one of the replies made a good point. There's supposed to be a two month(?) period before a trademark is approved in which it can be disputed, I'm surprised this flew under everybody's radar until it was too late. Also, isn't there a pretty big fee for filing a trademark even if it doesn't go through? Wonder how thought-out all of this was.

Either way what a strange situation. Never thought I'd wake up to legal drama over yukkuri of all the things. If he gets away with this then I've no doubt people'll start coming out of the woodworks to pull off similar scams. It's a bad standard to set.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39831082
>the patent office doubled down on their decision
That's a letter from his legal representative, not from the patent office.
>as long as something doesn't have nationwide popularity the trolls can just copyright it and destroy it
That's just a lawyer doing what they do best: lying. The law clearly states the consumers need to think of your product when they see the copyright. Pic related is a Q&A from what appears to be a law firm, made in 2019. They clearly say that nation wide popularity is not a requiriment.
Not to mention that the dumb cunt himself said that ゆっくり茶番劇 is a derivative of Touhou.
Just keep in mind I'm not very familiar with legal terms in Japanese (nor am I a lawyer), so I can't be 100% sure what I'm saying is correct.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Yuzuha_YouTube/status/1526151609704558592
They dropped the 100,000 yen license fee. People aren't satisfied with just that though obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39831323
I can't into japanese, did the bomb threats stopped him or what, he seems to be backpedaling on that tweet

[Anonymous No.]

The digital Millennia Act is only for the US tho…

[Anonymous No.]

At least I'm having a laugh with the way people are responding to this idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39836501
Ouch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39836447
That doesn't stop people from other countries trying to fill them out

[Anonymous No.]

>>39836501
>「あ」を商標登録しました。「あ」を商用利用される方は10万円払ってください。
still my favorite one

[Anonymous No.]

>>39836501
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>39833631
Everyone's smart enough to realize this is a guy just looking to squat on something that isn't his. Add on the fact that he's using fake accounts, presumably kept it on the lowdown until after the trademark was approved, and has already tried to exploit it and you've got a guy that has all the credibility of a used car salesman.

On top of that he's apparently hellbent on not giving it up either if all the death threats, bomb threats and other pleasantries aren't budging him. He's probably just hoping it blows over before reinstating the fee once everyone forgets about it or doing something equally slimy.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/ntvnewszero/status/1526225979399495681
>第三者が先駆けて商標登録をするというのは日本の制度として認められている
>早い者勝ちっていうのがルール
Kind of funny how the subtext is always that it's the fans' fault for not copyrighting a fucking touhou meme first.
If Japanese copyright laws are that fucked I'm more surprised that doujin culture could thrive for so long with no major issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39839061
Forgot to quote the first line
>ほかの方が使ってるマークとか文字とかを

[Anonymous No.]

>>39839061
"アリス・マーガトロイドは私の命の恩人なんです。たくさんの勇気や希望を貰いました。もちろん茶番劇も含まれます
それをどうか、奪わせないで
お力を貸してください！"

Wow that's actually pretty depressing, poor guy. You reap what you sow, hope this trademark abuser gets fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39839061
There have been plenty of issues, if an artist/copyright owner doesn't want doujinshi made of their work, then they will not be made. Part of it is out of respect for the creator on behalf of those creating the derivative work, and the other part is the full power of the law will, with emphasis, be brought down on them if they do. Most artists are tolerant or even supportive of derivative creations (often due to many of them having been engaged in similar activities at an early age) which is why it happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>39839061
Sounds like lawmakers being a bunch of senile old morons who are completely disconnected from the real world is a global phenomenon.
At the end, they say that he only filed a copyright for the term ゆっくり茶番劇, so there's a chance that the government will allow it. Guess everyone will have to call it ゆっくり実況 from now on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39839061
It survives because they don't care about copyright, regardless of how much they screech about their own works being pirated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39839164
>and the other part is the full power of the law will, with emphasis, be brought down on them if they do.
Or if you're into horses, the yakuza. I still think about that one guy who went "This shit's stupid, I'm going to draw porn of them, fuck the Yakuza!" only to later give a "I'm sorry for breaking copyright, please do not follow my example, the Yakuza have nothing to do with any of this" and then go radio silent for months last I checked.

[Anonymous No.]

Question: If he actually tries to enforce the patent, and someone who receives a notice from him contests it and actually tries to take it to court, will his patent hold up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39833631
Is this dude retarded? What did he expect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39839962
First of all, stop calling it copyright or patent. You don't have to create or invent a trademark.
You just need to make sure nobody, or at least nobody famous enough, is using it in the field of your business.
For example, we all know what an apple is, but that doesn't stop the tech companies from trademarking their company name.
You'll still have trouble if you use other's work for your trademark.
Like, if this guy trademarked the round reimu and marisa's face image or used touhou to promote his trademark, ZUN would be able to sue him.
However, he only trademarked the term ゆっくり茶番劇, aka slowly farce drama, which is not a distinctive term for touhou.

As to your question, He trademark is as worthless as it could be.
As long as you don't use the full term in your electronic media business, he can't do shit to you.
If he randomly charge any yukkuri video and fail, his trademark may be revoke.
Even if you do use the full term for your yukkuri video, he probably still won't win the case.
Because you use it purely to describe your work, not to impost him, and people have been using this description for over a decade.
What worries me is that he has gained too many spotlights. He can now claim his trademark is famous enough for people to associate your work with him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817656
It's aquestalk, Defoko's voice is based on the samples with permission

[Anonymous No.]

>>39839312
Will Yakuza try to go after my gaijin ass if I draw horse porn? Or it's too late because FOTM is over?

[Anonymous No.]

We news now

[Anonymous No.]

>>39843405
me on the right

[Anonymous No.]

>>39843405
EoSD Reimu is on TV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39843810
maw look i'm on the telly

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpGk73T-hd4&t=9s&ab_channel=%E5%B2%A1%E9%87%8E%E3%82%BF%E3%82%B1%E3%82%B7%E5%BC%81%E8%AD%B7%E5%A3%AB
Video by a Japanese lawyer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39843810
EoSD reimu is quite cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39842996
Probably not given the Chinese are churning out Horse porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>39848670
gimme a tldr, the shit wifi at my job is making this annoying to watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817627
just use a different voice, it's not like it matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>39850197
Maybe one day one of your neurons will fire and you'll achieve actual sentience, but sadly it looks like today ain't that day for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39850437
If you face adversity, find another solution.

Not hard. Are you talking to yourself? You can replace any meme with another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39850456
You're right anon, no incredibly stupid copyright or trademark fuckery should ever be challenged by anyone. Just bend over and let it happen, hoho!

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>>39850523
oh so you know how to challenge this Japanese trademark claim? Enlighten me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39850574
I was actually surprised that VIP, nanJ and may still care that much about 2hu

[Anonymous No.]

>>39850575
It really takes some special skills to run the goalpost from "the japanese should just change things because it doesnt matter to me" to "why don't you challenge japanese trademarks?".

[Anonymous No.]

>>39849869
The touhou art before when ZUN swapped to digital has a dreamlike charm to them

[Anonymous No.]

kind of dumb but i get so anxious realizing that zun is just a mortal guy like me and he may die someday. i don't want that to happen bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>39851048
Not him, but it's not goalpost moving. Bitching about it isn't going to change anything, and nobody here can do a thing about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39851217
Bitching about it here won't change anything and I agree whole-heartedly nobody here can change anything in any regards to anything that has happened or will happen, but that doesn't change the fact anon was a complete retard for saying the people who might actually be able to make a change should just give up. And all that's ignoring how that first line of reasoning that is "[x] can't do anything so there's no point talking about it" on a site practically made for that shit is equally retarded as anons original post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39851345
>that doesn't change the fact anon was a complete retard for saying the people who might actually be able to make a change should just give up.
You've yet to present how.

The reason I said that is since if you weren't retarded you could see the fundamental issue: nobody owns it, so nobody can counterclaim that they own it. This isn't similar at all to Disney's shenanigans, and rather these things tend to get stuck until the patent, trademark, or copyright run out, because how would you challenge it?

Basically you're talking like other people are stupid because you're a hopeful fucking moron.

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>>39851673
>You've yet to present how.
That's not the point, but if you're so absolutely desperate to run those 90 yards, I'll scroll up for you.
>>39833209

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>>39851690
This is nothing. What are you seeing here? Are you growing deluded?

Maybe you're familiar with Japanese law and know that "claiming derivative can cause a problem" but I kind of doubt that. You'd also have to look at the trademark and see if it details the same, otherwise it's not related to Touhou is it? The law and books don't change because of statements made in a frivolous Q&A. You're pretty thoughtless, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

If it really is just a name them you can just use another name. That's usually how trademark bs is supported. They can't really do anything if you make the slightest alteration. Happens all the time

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>>39851673

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>>39851712
>otherwise it's not related to Touhou is it?
https://twitter.com/Darkrurun/status/1526465840656560128

[Anonymous No.]

i didnt know yuzuha knew english
better run fast, he's coming

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>>39850456
ゆっくり is not just a meme though, it's a type of video that's been around since 2009.
There are over 10 million yukkuri videos and thousands of channels that rely on the name on Youtube and NicoNicoDouga.
Sure, the trademark only affects one specific genre but if the whole incident has shown anything it's that no one, not even ZUN, can protect the other genres from being trademarked as well and now the whole country knows about this weakness.
And let's not forget that the ゆっくり茶番劇 trademark alone could affect all genres already. Yuzuha absolutely could try to sue people for similar sounding genres like ゆっくり実況.
You can't just rename yukkuri to, say, touhou either because that's not what the videos are known as. That would just erase the meme completely and kill most of its popularity.
Any other name like, say, manjuu would have the same problem as yukkuri.
ZUN trademarking yukkuri would probably be the only solution but I doubt that's even possible.
Trademarking all of the individual genres also doesn't sound realistic since new popular genres keep being made like ゆっくり料理 a year ago.
Ironically, the root cause of the whole situation is probably ZUN allowing monetization of Touhou videos as long as the intention isn't profit.
Now you have people like Yuzuha trying to profit off of Touhou videos.

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>>39851984
>ZUN allowing monetization of Touhou videos as long as the intention isn't profit
How does this make sense. Even donating to an artist is profit.

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>>39851984
>Sure, the trademark only affects one specific genre but if the whole incident has shown anything it's that no one, not even ZUN, can protect the other genres from being trademarked as well and now the whole country knows about this weakness.
The implication here is that it's already decided which is strictly incorrect between the patent office making themselves open to legal blowback between both lying and improper background checks, the two things you cannot do as one, and ZUN Dwango/Niconico and I believe the specific TTS creators have all mentioned they're talking to lawyers.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone contacted the patent office
https://twitter.com/VGV4CMTYZw1wjrA/status/1526550032065130496

-They acknowledged that the filing is malicious

-They recognize that the approval by the officer was inappropriate, causing needless commotion in society and also possibly leading to problems with content business in the future and other patent trolls

-They are prepared to cancel it as soon as the "rights holder" objects to it

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>>39852050
For clarification since there's hotheads here, when I say they lied and didnt do proper background checks, I mean that they lied about their results (see 数万件程度 on twitter) which puts it into question, with their only defense being the legalese that is
>a patent much be made public and disputed within two months before it is legalized with any relevant parties
of which they also did not make public or dispute with any relevant parties. The lawfirm in question ATOM even mention this partially on their site, leaving out the disputation part because that puts them right under the dirt, but it's mentioned in ZUN's tweet replies by the japanese people who can actually find this shit in the lawbooks themselves as seen in the slightly related >>39851853

Basically the tl;dr is it's not just possible but plausible for the patent to be invalidated when its challenged legally, which we have multiple people who have some legal holding over it currently doing.

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>>39852024
See https://touhou-project.news/guideline_videoposting/
I think it's the doujin spirit. He just doesn't want people to be in it for the money.
Yuzuha and his shady company Yura Planning clearly go against the guidelines.

[Anonymous No.]

Once again, the Touhou fandom proves they are just a bunch of bullies. A pack of rabid fanatics that would attack artists just because they DARED to sell a non-touhou work alongside a touhou one. Fucking lunatics, ganging up on a guy just because he did something they didn't like.

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>>39852115
I've seen ATOM's FAQ before but aren't they just the lawfirm behind that popular law youtuber who's been covering the case? See >>39848670

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>>39852182
Huh, for some reason it was attributed to Yuzuha in the tweet I saw. I stand completely corrected, >>39852111 has a better idea of it than me in that specific regard.

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>>39852195
I'm not surprised that even the patent office wants to see it removed but the difficult part will be to prove that ZUN is the right holder to yukkuri.
Yukkuris are frequently featured in officially licensed content, most notably the Danmaku Kagura devs.
Maybe that could be used to prove that Yuzuha is trying to profit off of ZUN's intellectual property.
Obviously even Yuzuha means the touhou derivative genre by ゆっくり茶番劇 even if he now claims otherwise. His own yukkuri videos and official website are all touhou content and much of it clearly goes against ZUN's guidelines.
I imagine that's the "malicious" part.

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>>39852550
Also the patent office website got hit by DOS attacks and this shit is all over the news and getting takes from people like the Niconico CEO and politicians, it's making them look like a bunch of morons.

They really technically didn't do anything wrong because the system is working the way it was made to work (whether the system should be made this way is an entirely different thing), but that's how the public sees it.

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>>39852111
Someone else questioned the patent office and posted a more in-depth account of their replies.
https://twitter.com/zkurishi/status/1526587025087795200

-The officer in charge approved it because they thought "it was not clear who currently provided the service (of yukkuri)"

-The officer also thought that the term yukkuri chabangeki was not widely known (other people have pointed out while it's true there were only 50,000 hits before this happened, some of those hits were Youtube videos with millions of views so they should have looked at more than just hits)

-The officer uses dictionaries and internet searches to determine if a term is widely known before approval, but there are no numbers attached to this process, it's entirely left up to their discretion. The patent office now recognizes that this is not enough when it comes to fan content and "free use" items, and will now adopt a multiple-officer approach to prevent something like this from happening again

[Anonymous No.]

>>39852597
the system is explicitly not working the way it was made to work, that's why its hitting mainstream news

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>>39852634
The guy asked them about their stance on things like internet memes which are not supposed to be owned by anyone

-They recognise it as a problem

-There have been problems before (though not as big) where an unrelated third party registered an internet meme (人の金で焼肉食べたい」and「大迫半端ないって」)

-There are no standards in place governing these and everything is left to the officers' discretion so it is still possible that this happens again

-All they can do is warn officers of this type of situation to try and prevent it again



>>39852649
Yes but instead of blaming the system people are attacking the patent office and the lawyers which seems kind of daft

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>>39852656
On how the thing was only announced after the period where people can object to it

-They do not consider it a problem regarding freedom of information because the information on what is registered is public and anyone could have seen it

-They do however consider it a problem that this information is not known to the public

The stuff is put up on their site or something which they considered to be enough but why the fuck would anyone care to constantly check to see if someone is randomly registering a trademark? Now THIS is something you can blame them for, it doesn't fucking work.

[Anonymous No.]

how about just getting rid of copyright altogether?

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>>39852656
no i mean the fact that it's so obviously an abuse of the system is the reason why its blowing up, not the threats or whatever
also stop fucking reddit spacing and write your stuff in one post instead of three

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>>39852686
retard

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>>39852686
It's blowing up because it's an abuse, but people are blaming and attacking lawyers and the patent office when it's the asshole actually abusing the law, lawmakers who made the retarded trademark laws who should be blamed.

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>>39852686
>how about just getting rid of copyright altogether?
trademark isn't copyright dumbass

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>>39852703
theres also significant fault to have in the patent office which is why they decided to back down though

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>>39852727
They're just caving to pressure, they literally did nothing wrong by the law or by regular standards, yukkuri chabangeki is basically nothing compared to yukkuri kaisetsu or yukkuri jikkyou. This is a text trademark. Most of the public doesn't understand that it only applies to those exact words and not to all yukkuri, and a great deal doesn't care and are just looking for an excuse to shit on someone (they're not unwarranted in doing so though).

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>>39852710
you quoted the wrong person dumbass

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>>39852741
illiterate retard

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>>39852746
i don't care what they call you at school, teen

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>>39852757

>>39852741

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>>39852679
You really want a 24 episode Touhou anime, don't you?

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>>39853365
i wouldn't mind at this point

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>>39852130
So only ZUN can money chase? Wowee
But Yuzuha patent trolling is annoying either way.
>>39852634
I do hope the patent office takes notes for the future not just for this case but just to improve it overall for everyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

There's something incredibly hilarious about a once obscure 2chan meme that's almost 20 years old getting Japanese national media press.
Yukkuris have evolved to be so popular that drunk dads know about them. There's something so surreal about that.

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>>39855933
>20 year old internet meme
> drunk dads know about them"
You're now realizing the memers from 20 years ago have grown up

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>>39856048
The funniest part is that a lot of them don't even know where it comes from, they just the know the videos and the Yukkuri voice. It's pretty much become a staple of Japanese videos as a whole at this point, so for this controversy to get this large that national news gets more views about it than Russia news is funny.

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>>39856119
Everyone knows them. If you look for a tutorial or explanation video on basically anything you'll get them.

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>>39856145
Aquestalk is the UNREGISTERED HYPERCAM 2 with notepad pulled up of japan.

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>>39852737
>they literally did nothing wrong by the law
That still doesn't mean the copyright should belong to Yuzuha. He didn't create that term, he didn't popularize it and he didn't create something original that just happens to use the same name.
He tries to argue that it has nothing to do with Touhou, which is a blatant lie since he himself admitted that ゆっくり茶番劇 is a derivative work of Touhou.
He didn't file the copyright to protect his product, he did it to profit using other people's work.

>>39855645
>So only ZUN can money chase?
It's his IP, so yes.

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>>39856420
moron

[Anonymous No.]

New video by the law youtuber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51gXo59ruFs

He thinks that the chances of someone, even ZUN himself, getting the trademarks of ゆっくり実況 or ゆっくり解説 are less than 10% because they are more widely known.
The patent examiner probably slipped up and failed to realize the connection between ゆっくり茶番劇 and ゆっくり実況 or ゆっくり解説.
Yuzuha being called a trademark troll is troublesome even for the Japan Patent Office.

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>>39858069
Wouldn't the issue be less getting the trademark for himself and moreso proving that Yuzuha has literally no potential hold on it compared to others like ZUN, AQUEST, or even technically Niconico?

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like he's trying to backpedal now and claim that the reason for the trademark was actually to "protect" yukkuri-based channels and his own from being taken down from competitors or anyone else who got the trademark first. And that he'd never intended to profit off it. But wasn't he already charging a fee? I thought that was the point of the tweet a few days ago saying he'd stop charging for the license or whatever.

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I'm surprised japs haven't doxxed and stabbed him yet.

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>>39858742
I don't think he's backpedaling with all of the conflicting excuses and reasoning he's throwing out, I think he is genuinely retarded enough to believe that if he says one right thing out of dozens it'll magically protect him, instead when all its doing is further burying his case.
>>39858773
Wasn't there bomb threats at his office or something, or was that the patent office?

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>>39858773
He shut off comments on his Twitter to only people he follows just recently, so I guess all the bomb threats/death threats/calling him a horrible human being are getting to him.

You'd think with all the shit going on a person'd think "oh boy I sure fucked up if even ZUN is talking about getting a lawyer" and just give it up. Like what do you even get from holding onto the trademark at this point? Practically everyone hates the guy and you're likely not gonna get squat out of it. Given how autistic japs can be about this sort of thing too I wouldn't be surprised if some people really were thinking of doing something to him.

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>>39858742
He did charge a fee. 100000 yen to be exact.

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>>39858824
>Like what do you even get from holding onto the trademark at this point?
He's pretty much said it clear as day himself; he wants to own this specific term. That's it. The dudes a patent troll through and through but even when he was backing down on the required payment thing he still wanted to make it clear that he owns it.

At this point it's just waiting to see how quickly and decisively he gets struck down by the man himself.

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>>39858824
>Like what do you even get from holding onto the trademark at this point?
If I understood correctly from the ATOM video, a copyright can be disputed for 5 years after it is granted. After that, the person owns it for good.
He's likely trying to calm everyone down with his newest lie of "protecting it from other companies" (https://twitter.com/Yuzuha_YouTube/status/1526901086057279488)) so he can start charging people after the 5 years.

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A bomb threat was called into a law office in the area
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20220517/p2a/00m/0na/025000c

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>>39859654
And people called the western DMCA drama embarassing
This is reaching autism levels that shouldn't be possible over fucking talking head memes

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>>39860264
The opposite of taking it easy

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>>39858824
>oh boy I sure fucked up if even ZUN is talking about getting a lawyer
He has no respect at all for ZUN and hates touhou fans. Just take a look at this shit:
archive(dot)ph/lqDQi
archive(dot)ph/fKxWw
He makes very clear that he only uses the characters for "privacy" and doesn't care about touhou and its characters at all.
Rather he's just a tertiary who only uses the yukkuri characters as free resources.

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>>39826756
Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers:

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>>39860264
people do this for literally everything, and half the time its just some tween who thinks it'll be funny and doesnt actually care

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>>39858742
>claim that the reason for the trademark was actually to "protect" yukkuri-based channels and his own from being taken down from competitors or anyone else who got the trademark first.

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>>39851878
Can't you read or do you think twitter posts are legal documents? You should be citing the documents, if they're in question.

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>>39852111
How unusual. There's a reason this sort of thing is a legitimate means of making money (and why there's a name for people who do it) and that's that these offices tend not to budge

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>>39862118
Patent trolling isn't really a thing in Japan and these offices are extremely weak to stuff like every single news channel shitting on their faces.

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>>39862129
Why do they keep doing it then?

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>>39862110
I don't think anon was saying that was a legal document, probably was just trying to point out this specific part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39862110
Retard

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>>39862202
I know. That's a tweet.

>>39862211
You're just embarrassing, Christ. I don't know how you don't get that public statements do not equal what was writ on the books. Of course this doesn't matter if the office has determined fraud/malice by now, but that's not the point here.

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>>39862220
>I don't know how you don't get that public statements do not equal what was writ on the books.
In this case it literally does retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>39862220
you really are retarded huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>39862288
>In this case it literally does retard
Does it? Isn't he just stating his intents? That doesn't look like a literal legal document to me. There aren't even quotation marks around it

>>39862292
I'm not sure about your insistence on treating tweets as legal letter but the only place that kind of flies is on news websites nowadays.

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>>39862293
>There aren't even quotation marks around it
inb4 they are, obviously I meant around it being regarded as a secondary work of Touhou

Are you blind, basically

[Anonymous No.]

>>39862220
The guy pointed at these specific kinds of Touhou fanworks with full knowledge of what they were only to later claim it was totally disconnected from all of that. There was full intent and that's why there's different charges for manslaughter and murder in most countries.

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>>39862293
Contrarianism is so 2014

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>>39862300
If he indeed did that in his actual application/request, it makes sense. My point this entire time was that I'd like to see whether that was what he said, and what was recorded, not what he said after the fact in a non-official context.

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>>39862319
I really hope you're not arguing that in Japan, the country where you can get sued for defamation even if what you're saying is factually correct, proving that you had full knowledge of something you were unrightfully trying to claim is at ANY point anything but a shot in the foot.

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>>39862330
I'm rather saying that I don't see how much calling it a secondary work would hold any weight. Further, I'm pretty sure the general enormous stink this raised is the cause for the backtracking, not any specific statements necessarily.

But who knows but the office. Their reasoning doesn't cite anything specific apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817352
The Mainichi reported on Tuesday that in the early morning of May 16, a person sent a bomb threat to the Kai Intellectual Property Law Office in the Chiba Prefecture city of Sakura. This news followed after YouTuber Yuzuha on May 15 registered the trademark of "Yukkuri Chabangeki," which refers to disembodied head versions of characters from ZUN's Touhou Project that are made by fans.

Yuzuha first claimed on Twitter that fans would have to pay 100,000 yen (about US$770) for a license agreement. She later retracted that statement, but still claimed trademark rights. However, fans criticized Yuzuha because as of October 2020, YouTube channel Touhou Danmaku Kagura staff had confirmed with the ASCII art creator, the illustrator, and ZUN that anyone could freely use "Yukkuri Chabangeki."

Yuzuha had sent request for trademark in September 2021. The law office that received the threat applied for trademark registration on behalf of Yuzuha. As a result, multiple fans have called and emailed the law office, and formed a petition against Yuzuha's trademark. Subsequently, a person, who claimed that they were involved in this matter surrounding Yuzuha, sent a message to a web portal around the law office's area that read "Multiple bombs have been placed there. They will explode around 3 p.m." The Yamaman Yukarigaoka Line and the community Koala Bus were temporarily suspended on May 16 at around 2:00 p.m. The law office posted on their website that same day, "We are sorry for the inconvenience caused by not knowing that the trademark is beloved by everyone."

Numerous videos online on YouTube, Niconico Video, and other services use "Yukkuri Chabangeki," along with text-to-speech technology for narration.

Dwango Co. senior managing director and chief operating officer Shigetaka Kurita revealed that he is consulting a law firm on behalf of Niconico Video, and he will give the company's official view by May 21.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2022-05-18/japanese-law-office-receives-bomb-threat-following-touhou-project-fans-trademark-rights-controversy/.185799

Yuzuha: https://twitter.com/Yuzuha_YouTube

[Anonymous No.]

>>39817352
Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James' attempt to trademark the term "Taco Tuesday" has been denied, but according to James' team, he still accomplished the outcome he wanted from the application in the first place.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on Wednesday refused the application filed by James' company LBJ Trademarks, explaining that "Taco Tuesday" is "a commonplace term."

"The applied-for mark is a commonplace term, message, or expression widely used by a variety of sources that merely conveys an ordinary, familiar, well-recognized concept or sentiment message," the USPTO wrote.

A spokesman for James told ESPN's Dave McMenamin that the application was filed "to ensure LeBron cannot be sued for any use of 'Taco Tuesday.'"

"Finding 'Taco Tuesday' as commonplace achieves precisely what the intended outcome was, which was getting the U.S. government to recognize that someone cannot be sued for its use," the spokesman said.

The USPTO also cited examples of restaurants that have used the term, along with several articles showing that "Taco Tuesday" is a "widely used message used by various parties to express enthusiasm for tacos by promoting and celebrating them on a dedicated weekday."

James' spokesman pointed out that the USPTO's ruling will protect not only James but anyone else from using "Taco Tuesday" for business reasons.

James began sharing videos of his family's taco nights on his Instagram account during the offseason. The videos became something of a social media sensation, with James making special "It's Taco Tuesday" T-shirts and new Lakers forward Anthony Davis even making a special guest appearance.

James had sought to monetize the videos by filing to trademark "Taco Tuesday" in August. LBJ Trademarks stated in its application that the goods and services involved with the trademark involve "advertising and marketing services provided by means of indirect methods of marketing communications, namely, social media, search engine marketing, inquiry marketing, internet marketing, mobile marketing, blogging and other forms of passive, sharable or viral communications channels."

The company also listed "podcasting services" and "online entertainment services, namely, providing a website featuring non-downloadable videos, and social media posts in the field of sports, entertainment, current events and popular culture."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27596576/lebron-taco-tuesday-trademark-filing-denied

LeBron James failed to trademark the term Taco Tuesday back in September 2019 so trademark trolling is a global phenomenon not unique to Japan.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>39862465
>because as of October 2020, YouTube channel Touhou Danmaku Kagura staff had confirmed with the ASCII art creator, the illustrator, and ZUN that anyone could freely use "Yukkuri Chabangeki."
i believe it but i dont see it sourced in the mainichi article

[Anonymous No.]

>>39862571
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20220517/p2a/00m/0na/025000c

(Japanese original by Digital News Center, and Rei Oikawa, The Mainichi Staff Writer)

Blame Rei Oikawa if there is any ambiguity in the article

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>>39860264
japanese NEETs are quite autistic, just see the guy that burned kyoani for a retarded reason.

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>>39862662
Doesn't the term fan originally derive from fanatic in the first place?

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>>39817352
Yuzaha's TikTok leads to his old Twitter account he recently scrubbed: https://twitter.com/Yura_Planning

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>>39862673
Who knows.

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>>39862662
I'm pretty sure that guy was just mentally ill.

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>>39862129
>Patent trolling isn't really a thing in Japan
See the video in >>39858069.

>>39862344
>I don't see how much calling it a secondary work would hold any weight
It conflicts with one of the requirements for filling a copyright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865058
retard

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>>39862699
That's all I could find out about the account: https://idtwi.com/1423197171591962628
Curiously, at one point it had a different handle name. I could find another id with that handle name but that account is also gone.
The Yura Planning website is still around but it already has his current twitter account: https://yuraplanning.official.ec/
Based on TwiGaTen I think his current twitter account might've changed ownership after Aug 2021. The previous owner probably sold it after it hit 10K subscribers.
Screenshots of the account around the time (pic related) notably have a different youtube account id corroborating the claim that it was a different youtuber's account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39862129
Nintendo is famous for patent trolling. They recently “patented” the “going backwards in time mechanic” something that PoP or Braid did 15 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

I did some further digging and found an even older account: https://idtwi.com/194113871
Turns out Yuzuha is a ban evader. That's probably the reason why he changed his name from Tamayura to Yuzuha.
But that account was only in use between Feb and May 2021 despite being created in 2010, so chances are it's also bought.
I'm now certain that Yuzuha got his current account in Dec 2021. Shiro was a very active user, Dec is when his followers suddenly stopped replying to him.
I also found another conversation of people who knew Shiro claiming that Yuzuha bought the account:
https://twitter.com/Aqua_832/status/1526486821907345408

[Anonymous No.]

>>39850574
there's Hiro!

[Anonymous No.]

>>39864419
I mean, thats just the average NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867746
Haro

[Anonymous No.]

https://blog.nicovideo.jp/niconews/170666.html
Use genre tags OK
Calling it a character bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>39873195
Niconico's doing good though, because this changes practically nothing on their site except for slightly pressuring users to not name their videos just that with nothing else which already doesn't happen, while actively condemning the asshole while at the same time not putting them in legal troubles. As if the potential was even there in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/korindo/status/1527563527451725824

ZUN's legal team stated that the yukkuri trademark is not applicable if the work is a Touhou derivative. From what I get, this means that as long as what you make is Touhou related, that Yuzuha guy can't do shit to you. But that also means he keeps the trademark ? It's weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39873424
the fourth tweet makes me laugh because its essentially him saying "associate it with touhou MORE to fuck over this asshole's bullshit claims"
that man is without a doubt my nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>39861919
>>39873833
I dont get it, who are this 2 faggots?

[Anonymous No.]

It's kind of funny how this whole situation gave Touhou and ZUN more exposure

[Anonymous No.]

>>39874027
jewish faggots who tried to trademark the brand “reaction video”

[Anonymous No.]

That retard deleted most of his own video now lmao.
Looks like its over for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39878472
its not over until the trademark is firmly wrested from his hands, because he's going to come back and try again otherwise and dwango can only do so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>39878472
Dude is a fool, you don't try to fight something like 2hu that at this point is very ingrained in jp internet culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39878550
le touhou army

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/CoyuLive/status/1527781259342413826

[Anonymous No.]

Oi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39880542
So, we win? I don't know much about law language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39884481
Technically yes, it's on the way out and to say he shot his foot in a society like Japan is very apt as Yuzuha's crippled for life, but it's not over until the shitter's ownership is proven to be completely dissolved legally.

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>>39817352

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>>39878550
yeah man, touhou is the bloody master of puppets, fucking master mirror, its influence can change many things

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>>39866911
>>39867460
This archive of Yuzuha's YouTube channel shows deleted videos that had titles in Spanish not Japanese and links to some male from Columbia so either some Colombian sold his YouTube channel to Yuzuha or Yuzuha is some Columbian con artist living in Japan.

>Holaa! solo quiero decirles que este no es final, esto solo es el comienzo de algo increíble y se que cuento con su apoyo en todo, de verdad les quiero dar las gracias por todo y por permanecer conmigo siempre a pesar de todo lo que a pasado con este canal, son los mejores y los amo demasiado #Prinstoneros.

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https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCJQ9KkOhJwO-2UvE4eTCqIA/videos

https://playboard.co/en/video/sR8AX0b-pXU

https://playboard.co/en/video/6Ke6wXmn_qA

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>>39886494
Prinstor Zed also has an active account: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl2Kjuu6i4M31Ce0iS_uAFw
But it looks suspicious to say the least. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole point is to sell the account later.

While we're at it, here is Yuzuha trying to buy a verified twitter account: https://twitter.com/8_Lakun/status/1525776886609354753
And this is the account he allegedly got his hands on: https://twitter.com/ChurchofCrowley
It has the same profile pic he used on his Tamayura accounts, a link to his current youtube channel and another protonmail email address.
I tried approximating the profile pic id based on artist profile pics I'd saved and it should be from around Nov 2021, so it's not a recent profile pic change and it's in line with the pinned tweet.

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>>39888277
>https://twitter.com/8_Lakun/status/1525776886609354753
I meant to link the reply: https://twitter.com/orihara_enjou/status/1525789851013918720
The other tweet is Yuzuha trying to buy a check mark.

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>>39817352
NicoNico Press Conference regarding this trademark controversy on May 23, 2022

https://blog.nicovideo.jp/niconews/170666.html

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>>39817352
We asked ASCII artist D-p Takezaki about the origin of yukkuris!

D-p Takezaki: Also works under the pen names “Fukai” and “Fukaiton”. Hobbies include drawing, making ASCII art, playing video games, and attempting to cook. Recently set up a fish tank.

D-p Takezaki works as a graphics artist at a video game company.

https://www.pixiv.net/users/7335954

https://twitter.com/fukaiton

https://en.touhougarakuta.com/article/yukkuri_dptakezaki-en/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yib_KiAoXVM

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Oi.

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>>39884335
>>39893080
what's the point to boardbumping a board this slow

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>>39894144
hololive new general spam kills slow threads constantly

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>>39894557
i'm pretty sure the guy doing it isn't trying to protect threads by making low quality posts but is rather trying to speed it up

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>>39862673
It's an abbreviation of it that adquired a less extreme meaning, yeah. Some other languages still use "fanatic" for both.

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>>39894557
Only threads on page 9 and 10 are at risk when the spam happens.

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>>39880542
It's already noon in japan, and the fucker still hasn't announced anything. He'd better done it before I wake up.

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https://blog.nicovideo.jp/niconews/170666.html updated with the GG nore
>「ゆっくり茶番劇」商標権の放棄交渉
>「ゆっくり茶番劇」商標登録に対する無効審判請求
>使用料を請求されてしまった方への相談窓口の設置
>商標登録による独占の防止を目的とした商標登録出願

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>>39905236
https://twitter.com/CoyuLive/status/1528656897070747648

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>>39908343
The evil has been defeated.

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>>39886494
Fucking hell.

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>>39886494
Account purchases are against Youtube TOS. Youtube administration ignores Japanese, report his account in English.

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The chief cabinet secretary has commented on this now.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/articles/2205/24/news172.html

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>>39894144
Oi.

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>>39817627
>Some fag patent troll company registered trademark for the yukkuri voice
How is that even possible?

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>>39934145
retard

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>>39873424
so basically cookie is fucked.

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>>39941367
have you considered reading the last few posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>39941438
No.

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>>39819522
>270k likes

jap twitter is an odd place

[Anonymous No.]

can this thread die already? it's just people talking out their ass.
like where were all these fervent yukkuri fans for the last 7 years?

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>>39957145
It's as if things can change in 7 fucking years.