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39381012 No.39381012 [Reply] [Original]

does 2ch / imageboards have the same "extremist hate speech platform" reputation in Japan that 4chan has gotten in the West in the minds of normies?

or is it more seen as just a general nerd/otaku website?

>> No.39381056

Depend mostly a nerd/Otaku website but when it come to pol...

>> No.39381123

>>39381012
They definitely do except instead of blaming Jews for their problems they blame interdimensional space Koreans

>> No.39381176

>>39381056
>>39381123
I meant primarily among people who don't even use the site.

Like in the West if people hear you visit 4chan they assume you're a Neo-Nazi even if you only browsed /out/ and compared hiking gear.

>> No.39381207 [DELETED] 

Check the political boards and you'll see the massive amount of hate against foreigners, niggers, Mexicans and Americans

>> No.39381216

>>39381176
Who cares what normies think? A few years before that they'd think you were a misogynist, before that, a pedo, and before that, a hacker.

>> No.39381276

>>39381216
Of course I don't personally care what normies think but I was watching a video from Japan and saw an imageboard open on a guy's monitor. So I started thinking what if any connotations that would have to a Japanese viewer. Would they recognize it, would they make inferences as to his character etc.

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>>39381276
Honestly, letting everyone have access to the internet was a mistake. I miss the days when it was confined to a small clique of tech savvy nerds who spent all their time on a computer, which was considered unusual and antisocial.
/pol/ has become overrun with vatniks and anti-America third worlders who’ve been kicked off every other platform. It’s gone from “critique of western society and acting like Nazis” to “kill all Nazis, whitoids and women”. What can’t be co-opted gets flooded with shitposts until it’s unusable.
/jp/ would be the best place on 4chan, if only we could get the vtuber normies to go back to their containment board, but mods are too limpwristed to enforce their own rules.

>> No.39381813

>>39381740
Never forget that you phoneposting about "normies" makes you part of the problem.

>> No.39382175

>>39381813
Your vtuber doesn’t love you, crossie.

>> No.39382287

I found at least on the touhou boards that it was similar to /jp/ but with more Japanese politeness and kindness.

>>39381207
As it should be.

>> No.39382533

>>39382175
I don't like streamcancer, phoneposter. You're part of the problem.

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I hate to interrupt teenagers doing their tribal bickering since they have nothing to contribute, but I can answer somewhat. They are called netouyo and they are referenced and often mocked in media including anime and video games. They are most strongly associated with what is today known as 5chan and they predate 4chan's version, but futaba has its own infestation as well. You may find it interesting than 4chan and 5chan have the same owner and both sites are full of angst-fueled political scum with questionable ties to political figures.
But, you shouldn't forget that these are major platforms in Japan with a significantly larger userbase than 4chan despite being on an island with 100m people. Futaba even has a parenting board, although I haven't looked at it in years because why would I?

>> No.39382579

>>39382533
Sure you don’t.
/jp/ won’t be good again until every one of you simps is forced back into containment.
Literally worse than /mlp/.

>> No.39382587

>>39382546
>major platforms in Japan with a significantly larger userbase than 4chan

4chan.org
>Monthly Visits 105,367,911
>Daily Visits 3,512,264

>5ch.net
>Monthly Visits 101,104,179
>Daily Visits 3,370,140

>2ch.net
>Monthly Visits 223,384,593
>Daily Visits 7,446,154

interesting

>> No.39382599

>>39382287
>As it should be.
Only Americans.

>> No.39382615

>>39382599
4chan is an American website. If you don’t like it, leave.

>> No.39382625

>>39382579
Your vocabulary gives you away and you can't help it. You're also doing that thing the mentally ill types do where they think anyone pointing out a flaw/contradiction of theirs(your phoneposting despite having the gall to talk about "modern problems", for instance) is instantly diametrically opposed somehow, despite my distaste for vcancer. The whole X/Y-wing thinking, basically.
But this isn't the thread for this.

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>>39381012
>does 2ch / imageboards have the same "extremist hate speech platform" reputation in Japan that 4chan has gotten in the West in the minds of normies?
I'm not sure if they're viewed as being almost nothing but racists and right-wingers like 4chan, but they are indeed viewed as connected.
Netto-uyoku are a very well known thing for decades, Japan has its own view of fat greasy ultranationlist otaku on the internet that care about dumb ultra-specific shit most average folks don't think about. 2ch had a lot of boards that were just anti-Korean and anti-Chinese text art, futaba channel is much more niche so is viewed as even fatter and greasier. Last time I went there, there was a thread where they accused each other of being Chinese, and I'm sure someone from here was there because they were talking about Jews in simplistic Japanese.

>> No.39382668

>>39382546
ylilauta is unironically in the top 20 in finland making it the most visited forum/message board outside of the tech giants (facebook & reddit) (tied with twitter, more popular than twitch or imdb or tiktok or imgur)

probably a comparable situation. it is an absolute normie website.

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>>39382625
>posting from a phone is bad
I said giving internet access to the third world was a mistake, nothing about phones.
You can’t refute the core argument, but you’re still seething, so you resort to
>p-phoneposter!
Which is not a real argument.
Go back to /vt/, we don’t want you here.

>> No.39382684

>>39382615
>4chan is an American website
And the plastic you and I are eating is Chinese and my car is Guatemalan, I don't give a shit. This site is owned by a Japanese man anyway

>> No.39382702

>>39381176
>Like in the West if people hear you visit 4chan they assume you're a Neo-Nazi
I use 4chan and I assume half the people here are Neo-Nazis. I only go to /vrpg/ nowadays and a thread still has a chance of being filled with freak outs about Jews or black people

>> No.39382703

>>39382679
to be fair, the average internet user would be much more tolerable if phoneposting was made impossible. you can't deny the link.

>> No.39382715

>>39381216
Yeah. I'm only one of those!

>> No.39382716

>>39382679
Going to come at me with a "based/cringe" next?

>> No.39382728

>>39381740
>It’s gone from “critique of western society and acting like Nazis” to “kill all Nazis, whitoids and women”.
You live in your own fucking world, dude.

>> No.39382740

>>39382728
I opened up the place for about a second to see. I really don't know how one could possibly come to the conclusion he did.

>> No.39382742 [DELETED] 

>>39382702
Don't get me wrong – I am absolutely racist, sexist, anti-semetic etc. I wasn't trying to say that's not the case. Just that the site's reputation precedes it far beyond its userbase.

From some of the hot takes I've seen upvoted on other websites I think many zoomies have genuinely been spooked from even visiting the site once on their own. But they regurgitate horror stories they heard on Reddit/Discord anyone that's ever used any image board would recognize as fiction. Literally going as far as talking about user profiles, upvotes etc.

>> No.39382755

>>39382742
>type anti-semitic
>auto-correct marks it as incorrect
>change to semetic
>correct
>send post
>it's incorrect
thanks

>> No.39382763

>>39382755
Who are you quoting?

>> No.39382767

>>39382703
Can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. Revoking thirdies internet access would help, but not fix the problem, and that’ll never happen. The only answer is to create better gatekept communities.
>>39382716
>>39382728
Low energy responses.

>> No.39382804

>>39382740
Like I said, people like him live in their own bubble. So if someone says one thing against Nazis or white people, he thinks it's the end of the world and (((they))) got him. I know they have an interest in downplaying how many of them are neo-nazis('acting', lol), but I don't understand how he has never seen misogyny there until now.

>> No.39382813

>>39382767
>Can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Well, to a degree, but even with smartphones existing I think if mobile browsers were somehow banned it would disproportionally eliminate below average posters.

Just look at websites with their own dedicated phone app. Then websites whose app comes PRE-INSTALLED on smart phones. There's a definite trend.
On the opposite end of the spectrum from
>>39381740
>confined to a small clique of tech savvy nerds who spent all their time on a computer, which was considered unusual and antisocial.
are the people who refer to websites as "apps".

>> No.39382821 [DELETED] 

>>39382804
>I know they have an interest in downplaying how many of them are neo-nazis
I upplay my neonazi-ism and misogyny

>> No.39382853

>>39382813
It could be worse.
We could be being forced to use the 4chan app, which thankfully doesn’t exist yet.
Yet.

>> No.39382861

>>39382742
>Don't get me wrong – I am absolutely racist, sexist, anti-semetic etc.
Pretty gay.
Also there are people here who have an obsessive hatred for Reddit and, before they banned porn on it, tumblr, too. A site's reputation for its userbase preceding its use shouldn't be surprising. In fact I thought that was the main thing people here care about.
>From some of the hot takes I've seen upvoted on other websites I think many zoomies have genuinely been spooked from even visiting the site once on their own.
I fucking wish, this site got a huge shot of younger people in the last few years, there are people here who weren't around when moot was admin. 4chan always had a "spooky" reputation, back then it was hackers on steroids, the irony is that these reputations just attract some retards too. They come here to see all the epic memes and before they know it, they're posting here ten years later, more braindead.

>> No.39382876

>>39382821
>I upplay my neonazi-ism and misogyny
I'm sure outside and not just on an anonymous imageboard

>> No.39382880

>>39381012
The main reason 4chan is viewed that way is because of /pol/.
2ch doesn't have a /pol/ so of course it doesn't have that reputation. /pol/shit poisons everything.

>> No.39382898

>>39382861
>I fucking wish, this site got a huge shot of younger people in the last few years, there are people here who weren't around when moot was admin
I have no idea how people dispute this or think the average underage doesn't come here to take a shit and then leave. They're not "scared" of this place. Just looking at the vocabulary used in some threads makes it obvious. Hell, what about that /jp/takes nonsense? I'm almost certain half of the userbase is 16-18 now.

>> No.39382907

>>39382821
Also this.
The point of LARPing as nazis and etc. was to gatekeep normies away from 4chan. Someone high IQ would read between the lines and recognize it as a hub where controversial ideas and taboo information could be discussed freely, with no repercussions and only the thinnest amount of moderation. There is immense value in such a place for a curious mind.
You could even argue that this method of gatekeeping emerged by necessity due to the lack of formal controls (accounts and such), relegating said gatekeeping to a community effort rather than a centralized one.

>> No.39382910

>>39382861
Reddit 1000% deservers the hate tho so what's your point?

> this site got a huge shot of younger people in the last few years, there are people here who weren't around when moot was admin. 4chan always had a "spooky" reputation
Wure, but back before kids' first "computer" was their phone and websites were the norm for using the internet and not social media platforms with likes and trophies and achievements, people just typed in 4chan.org in the address bar to see what the fuzz was about even if they never returned.

>> No.39382923 [DELETED] 

>>39382876
Yes. I'm not American so being racist is not controversial.

>> No.39382939 [DELETED] 

>>39382907
When I have to explain it to someone I use the coalminers and canaries example.

The fact that I can type NIGGER at any moment and my post won't get shadowbanned gives me confidence that I can also talk about social issues etc. without advertiser pressure. With a moderated site like Facebook or Reddit you never know where the line is for allowed speech.

>> No.39382941

>>39382898
>I have no idea how people dispute this or think the average underage doesn't come here to take a shit and then leave.
I think that's most people on here. They use this place to take a fat dump of things they're too afraid to say in other places. It's WHY 4chan has the neo-nazi reputation people here are somehow confused about.

>> No.39382947

>>39382941
Literally no one is confused about 4chan's reputation.

>> No.39382948

>>39382910
>Reddit 1000% deservers the hate tho so what's your point?
What Reddit deserves is to be ignored like the trashheap it is. There are people with similar views to yourself who would screech at you for "Redditspacing" right now, for instance.

>> No.39382956

>>39382907
You are really contradicting yourself
It's a LARP and yet the "forbidden knowledge" is how the holocaust isn't real and Jews are why you jerk off to traps

>> No.39382964

>>39382947
Then why even complain about it and ask why no one uses this place, which isn't even true

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>>39382923
Russoid detected.
>>39382898
Not quite.
Kids these days have YouTubers and social media attention whores who pre-digest content from 4chan to feed them. In this way, much like how some caterpillars can eat poisonous plants without getting sick, the lingo can spread without the associated wrongthink. This is because they want the money that can be made from 4chan’s idea market, but without turning their fans into frothing Neo Nazis.
>>39382880
Not understanding /pol/ just proves you’re a soft, intellectually weak human being. You’re the type of person that deserves to get filtered out, who should be on Reddit because they think they need to be sheltered from “dangerous ideas”.
You’re the cancer killing 4chan.

>> No.39382978

>>39382948
I redditspace on purpose.

>What Reddit deserves is to be ignored like the trashheap it is
I agree, and that's what I do myself, but that wasn't what we were talking about. It was the sites having a reputation beyond its userbase. Which Reddit does too. It's among the top visited sites in the world so that's not too surprising.

>> No.39382989

>>39382964
No one complained about it or asked about 4chan's usage.

The question was: does 2ch have the same reputation in Japan?
And then a bunch of retards started explaining to me why 4chan's reputation is warranted as if that was ever in question.

>> No.39382993 [DELETED] 

Me being a Nazi is just a LARP but I DO think niggers should be enslaved

>> No.39382996

>>39382956
The Holocaust didn’t happen, but it should have.
If you’re not a newfag, explain the actual nuance behind the above statement.

>> No.39383005 [DELETED] 

>>39382993
This. The racism is real (and warranted) but actual neonazism is obviously cringe.

>> No.39383007

>>39382973
Martin Luther King is just like the tiny fairy tale hobbit people

>> No.39383010

>>39382973
>Not understanding /pol/ just proves you’re a soft, intellectually weak human being
This is a hobby board for the discussion of otaku culture. Ideally, both /pol/ and /leftypol/ posters would all die painful deaths, despite me being slightly more welcoming of the former, allowing for discussion of VNs and the like in peace without hoping some retard doesn't start screeching about Jews.

>> No.39383016

>>39382989
Because there are some limp-wristed male feminists here who hiss and seethe and wish /pol/ was gone so the site could be like Reddit.

>> No.39383022

/pol/ replaced both /b/ and /v/ is this site's newfag magnet and I feel like most people there came after 2016, and a lot of them probably shitting in diapers when this site was made

>> No.39383037

>>39383022
Careful, you'll get them to start screaming even more.

>> No.39383038

>>39383010
>people I don’t like should all die!
You sure you’re not from /pol/? Sure sounds like something one of them would say. You really think you’re morally superior?

>> No.39383042

>>39382973
>Kids these days have YouTubers and social media attention whores who pre-digest content from 4chan to feed them
12 years ago it was Encyclopedia Dramatica and it didn't stop people from coming here to be part of the cool hackers den
>the lingo can spread without the associated wrongthink
If people got put in jail for saying based soi cringe in real life I wouldn't be complaining

>> No.39383048

>>39383005
You're retarded

>> No.39383062

>>39383038
You get the point. Both groups invariably shit up discussion.

>> No.39383072

>>39383062
>You get the point.
People like him can only argue in bad faith, but I'm starting to think no, they really don't get the point. They can't think further.

>> No.39383082

>>39383042
>it didn't stop people from coming here to be part of the cool hackers den
12 years ago people were much more accustomed to the web forum format.
I'm not denying there are a lot of kids here (always were), but a site like 4chan didn't stand out much in its technical implementation.

Now, there's no app. No notifications. No profile. No likes. No DM's. No personal feed. Literally every social media app is the same. Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, they all offer pretty much the same features. 4chan has none of those features.

Remember that kids these days don't surf the web on their home computer, then later get a smartphone. They get a phone or a tablet at 5yo then maybe get a laptop when they go to college. That alone filters the userbase to weebs and gamers etc.

>> No.39383092

>>39383048
Well thankfully I'm also white, so you're just going to have to keep seething.

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>>39383042
ED was still pretty non-PC.
KYM, discord and associated social media allow for Chan media (no pun intended) and lingua franca to spread in a fashion that takes the poison out of it.
It’s a market adaption, essentially - it’s “commercialization”, much like how ninjas and samurai as depicted in modern media are nothing like their originals, and are instead a product of Tokugawa-era pop-culture, which warped their legends to be more palatable for mass marketing (and as such: money making).
I don’t like it, but that’s how it is.

>> No.39383119

>>39383072
It's the whole wing style thinking I talked about earlier. There are people who genuinely think that if you don't like /pol/, then you love /leftypol/ and can't wait to ban anyone who says nigger or something, and there's no reasoning with them. Clearly there is no way you can despise both groups and want to talk about a hobby without some tard derailing with either crime statistics or "trans rights", after all. I certainly understand why some people just fuck off to an IRC with 30 people they came to know over the years here and never come back.

>> No.39383122

>>39383113
>spread in a fashion that takes the poison out of it.
places like iFunny and Reddit literally repost 4chan greentexts with the slurs blacked out lol

>> No.39383124

>>39383082
>That alone filters the userbase to weebs and gamers etc.
What a tiny minuscule population that requires 500 IQ to be a part of.

>> No.39383132

>>39383124
When was that implied?

>> No.39383167

Both futaba and 5ch have a lot of netouyo, but rather than a reputation of a hate speech platform, 5ch has more of a "criminal dark web" style reputation for illegal activity. But in reality 5ch is 90% just people talking about dumb shit like here, and all the crazy stuff happened years ago.

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Another day, another kuso thread.

>> No.39383203

>>39383122
Exactly.
Online culture hubs like that are akin to waste processing plants, taking the shit on here and turning it into fertilizer or reclaiming drinkable fluids.
Reddit became popular for much the same reason despite its atrocious format: it’s more palatable to soft brained normies who have no ability to entertain controversial ideas,
They see someone going “Hitler was right” and their first instinct is to freak out, not thinking about why that person is saying it, or how they arrived at that conclusion. Such people aren’t worth keeping around in a community, because they will constantly try to police discussion according to their own sense of normie moralism.

>> No.39383208

>>39383119
>There are people who genuinely think that if you don't like /pol/, then you love /leftypol/ and can't wait to ban anyone who says nigger or something, and there's no reasoning with them.
To bring back how /pol/ got bigger than /b/ as a 4chan's "face", I think the politics are what differentiate and made it grow like a bigger cancer.
With /b/tards, when you were insulted and realized you're a newfag shitting up the place is bad forced memes no one else cares about. You may think the rest of the site is boring but realize it's not some free for all as it was advertised, it's just shit. You then lurk and move on to another board.
When people attack /pol/, they take it as a personal attack, that's their world view being targeted and made fun of. You have more to work with than /b/ memes, you have politics to enforce how this site was always the trash you were advertised it was, and you're bringing in more and more shitposters. Just look at the people in this thread boasting about fucking IQ and "taboo knowledge".
I honestly I don't know why I go here anymore if I'm gonna be lectured by people who came here five years ago and can't think of not everyone here agreeing with them.

>> No.39383224

>>39383132
If you think a 15 year old can't just google 4chan than you're just extremely out of touch. Which isn't bad if you just admit and realize you're out of touch

>> No.39383248

>>39383203
>They see someone going “Hitler was right” and their first instinct is to freak out,
It's not even
>not thinking about why that person is saying it, or how they arrived at that conclusion.

It's unironically
>"this website allows you to say anything? what a vile racist website!"
normies have been conditioned to require "hate speech" regulation for a while now. Even if they didn't see the N-word just knowing that it could be said is enough to deter most of them.

>> No.39383250

>>39383203
>They see someone going “Hitler was right” and their first instinct is to freak out, not thinking about why that person is saying it, or how they arrived at that conclusion.
Damn, you people aren't even sticking to "it's just irony" defense anymore

>> No.39383257

>>39383248
So much green.

>> No.39383269 [DELETED] 

>>39383208
You’re right. You should go back to R*ddit, where you don’t have to deal with people who disagree with you, don’t have opinions that go against the cultural zeitgeist, and where your mainstream opinion will be constantly reinforced.
Downvote me, nigger.

>> No.39383289

>>39383224
>If you think a 15 year old can't just google 4chan
When was THAT implied?

I said
>I think many zoomies have genuinely been spooked from even visiting the site once on their own.
>many
And it's probably something like 99% at this point to be honest. The fact that there are zoomies on 4chan does nothing to discredit this.
How many of them use social media in general? 95%? 99%? If they were using 4chan in the same numbers this site would literally be Tik Tok.

>> No.39383290

>>39383250
See? Here’s one now.
You don’t actually get it at all.
You read that, and go “durr hurr Nazi”, without even thinking why someone might say such an obviously inflammatory statement.

>> No.39383292

>>39383203
>They see someone going “Hitler was right” and their first instinct is to freak out, not thinking about why that person is saying it, or how they arrived at that conclusion.
I don't think someone thinking about about genocide and authoritarianism is gonna make them freak out less unless they're very already retarded and malleable

>> No.39383306

>>39383250
To be fair, Hitler was right about a lot of things.

>> No.39383311

>>39383208
There's little point arguing with these people, to be honest. Posts like >>39383269 just display the lack of utter self awareness and the way they build up an image of you in their heads to attack. Which would be "fine" if they didn't then spill over to my Touhou or VN discussions. I find myself coming here less with each passing day. A shame about most of the spinoffs being slow, but what can you do?

>> No.39383324

>>39383290
I hope you're not the fag that wrote >>39381740 crying about "Kill all Nazis, whitoids, and women", a real intellectual of /pol/ who definitely doesn't get mad when people say something he doesn't like.

>> No.39383381

>>39382679
>phoneposter
>iToddler
you're part of the problem lmao, kys

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>>39383311
You’re still here?
Don’t go “well maybe I’ll just leave then, fucking Nazis!”.
Do it, you attention seeking faggot.
>>39383324
Maybe /jp/ needs IDs and flags.
I will deign you explain it to you, midwit.
The Nazi shit is a form of gatekeeping, as has been previously discussed. It’s a litmus test that is instantly administrated, and instantly passed or failed depending on the reaction, by using a controversial subject that everyone knows about to determine “can this person have a real conversation with us?”. Same reason the term nigger is thrown around so often on this site:
It keeps people like you, who can’t handle controversial discussions, from opening your mouths or thinking you’re anything more than tourists.

>> No.39383416

>>39383311
I didn't even notice that post responding to me.
The last time I went on reddit it was filled with libertarians, people I REALLY don't fucking agree with. This is never about free speech, it's just about building an echo-chamber where your downtrodden ideas can be free and a single thought disagreeing with you is painted as an assault. It's hypocrisy. I mean, you got one fucking guy crying about people not liking America. I'm not gonna try touching politics, but he's a rebel thought leader against the status quo but you better not say something mean about a world superpower. It's not about free speech or intellectual diversity.
>Which would be "fine" if they didn't then spill over to my Touhou or VN discussions.
I just think how funny it is that /jp/ used to be a place noted for how isolated and detached it was from the rest of the site's trends and would spit on crossposters, and now we have people here calling us redditors for not bowing down to their favorite board that attracts the most traffic and trash for past half a decade. We have to agree with them or else leave, but we're the authoritarian thought police.
>I find myself coming here less with each passing day.
I still have a lot of nostalgia for this place, but it's true that the magic has left over the years.

>> No.39383441

>>39383397
>Same reason the term nigger is thrown around so often on this site:
It's the same reason you bust your buddies' balls when you meet them even if you only intend to talk about sportsball. It's a check to see where the relationship stands. You don't actually care if they have to go to IKEA the next day, you make fun of it to see if you're close enough to make fun of them.

>> No.39383461

>>39383397
>The Nazi shit is a form of gatekeeping
So is taking a fat shit and eating it and acting smug when people don't like it, doesn't change you're a scat fetishist
You keep them around, you say "haha okay guys, time to drop the act and get to business", and then they start throwing their shit at you. Just like you, you say it's a LARP and but then have a meltdown when someone disagrees. It's retarded.

>> No.39383464

>>39383397
>It keeps people like you, who can’t handle controversial discussions
Man, could you stop it with the persecution complex? People complaining about you going on about Jews in a thread talking about which little girl from Gensokyo they'd like to fuck the most or blaring crime statistics in an Aoi Shiro thread aren't "censorship advocates", they think you're being an annoying piece of shit for bringing up something completely unrelated. How do you NOT understand something this simple?
>Maybe /jp/ needs IDs and flags
This isn't your home board, I'm afraid.
It's fucking ridiculous how you people complain about immigrants(justifiably in some cases), and then exhibit the exact same behavior you complain about. You're a phoneposting crossboarder without a hint of shame.

>> No.39383475

>>39383416
>This is never about free speech
Reddit, twitter, facebook etc. literally ban you for a long list of views and beliefs, often utilizing bots to auto-ban you without even human intervention to check for context with certain words.
4chan doesn't ban you, you can be as lefty or righty or whatever esoteric schizo you want to be.
>it's just about building an echo-chamber
Right, right.

>> No.39383477

>>39383441
That and asking for bro-blowjobs and if you can see your bro in a skirt

>> No.39383488

>>39383461
You're welcome to leave. Plenty of sites that cater to you. Why visit one of the few that doesn't and then complain about it?

>> No.39383490

>>39383475
Twitter is filled with people on this site that haven't been banned for years

>> No.39383500

Americans are pig-dogs and vile, but also fat.

>> No.39383503

>>39383416
The people who flooded here with the "last bastion of free speech" idea in mind instead of "a place to meet like minded non-normalfags and talk about stuff we both enjoy" were a fucking mistake.
I'll spit on anyone who says I can't use the word nigger, but this and that are separate issues.

>> No.39383513

>>39383416
>you better not say something mean about a world superpower
>We have to agree with them or else leave
Are you playing dumb or do you honestly not see the difference between another user, on equal footing with you, telling you they disagree or asking you to shut up with no power to make you shut up
AND
a moderator, an admin or a bot banning your account and your IP, preventing you from participating in the discussion due to your views?

>> No.39383523

When moot made 4chan he made it specifically for kids 20 years in the future to post school shooter manifestos.

>> No.39383524

>>39383490
You get automatically banned for questioning covid. Or did, back when we still pretended to care about it.

>> No.39383528

>>39383461
See? You don’t get it.
For you, an idea you don’t agree with is as appealing as literally eating feces, and those who entertain it are shit-eaters and shovelers.
You’ve been filtered, because you wouldn’t bring anything interesting to the discussion. If I wanted to know what your opinions were, I’d turn on CNN, or some other mainstream publication. I, and others, would gain nothing from hearing you speak, because you wouldn’t tell me anything I couldn’t get from the TV.
Congratulations: you’ve proved that the system works.
>>39383441
This is part of it too. In groups develop coded language and inside jokes to strengthen their bonds with one another.

>> No.39383534

>>39383488
So you come to a place fresh off the boat, forcibly try to change the culture, and then scream and tell the original inhabitants to get out when they express their distaste for you?
That doesn't remind you of a particular group you like to complain about? Not in the slightest?
I have to wonder if you even post in any threads here besides the /a/ transplant focused on e-celebs. The lack of self awareness here is baffling.

>> No.39383550

>>39383528
If you can't get the fact that /jp/ has coded language and you're exposing yourself as a /pol/ crossboarder, I don't know what to tell you.

>> No.39383556

>>39383534
I've literally been here since 2004. I'm so old I remember when this site had a dedicated loli board.

>if you even post in any threads here besides the /a/ transplant focused on e-celebs
The only e-celebs I know are boomers with kids by now. I can't even name a Vtuber or a twitch streamer. But nice projection, anyway.

>> No.39383576

>>39383556
消えろ嵐

>> No.39383603

>>39383528
>You’ve been filtered
I've been here for fucking 15 years faggot and I'll probably be here for 15 years more if the tobacco doesn't say otherwise, all you can do is fucking strawman and refuse to believe that anyone could be sick of your shit, as if everything is just LARP or irony and we should stop questioning each other once the acts drop, but we're still expected to eat shit. I'm not gonna have some pretentious fuck dictate to me that I need to fully agree with his retardation, see you in a fucking Reimu armpit thread if you're not just a /vt/ tourist

>> No.39383621

>>39383464
Have I mentioned Jews once?
You seem upset friend.
It would help if you could prove you were an oldfag before accusing others of being crossies. Answer these three questions:
1) Who was the biggest spammer in 4chan history (over period of years), and what finally brought them down?
2) Who rules the sky?
3) Who is the only mod ever who was not a faggot?

>> No.39383661

>>39383603
Anon, didn't you know? If someone comes into a thread talking about Muramasa's Maou-hen and starts dumping crime statistics, you complaining actually means you're an outsider against free speech! You don't think he's derailing a fun discussion or anything, you just actually love censorship!

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>>39381740

>> No.39383674

>>39383621
>Have I mentioned Jews once?
Man I wonder what the philosophers on your dear /pol/ talk all about day, the sacred land you've been defending all day

>> No.39383683

>>39383621
all non jaypee specific wwwwwww
are you going to ask for everyone here to triforce next

>> No.39383689

>>39383661
What about when a thread asks about 2ch/5ch and a bunch of seething retards come in complaining about /pol/? Who's the derailer then?

No one was talking about niggers and jews or crime statistics before some users OBSESSED with /pol/ started bitching about /pol/ on a thread with 0 /pol/posting up until then.

>> No.39383694

>>39382702
I blame /pol/

>> No.39383702
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>>39383603
>I haven’t been filtered!
>bye!
Typical lewd miko poster. Everyone knows Marisa is superior だぜ.
>>39383550
>c-crossie!
I’ve seen things you wouldn’t believe.
Chen threads on fire off the autism belt. I watched banhammers gleam when the sink threads ran rampant. All those threads lost, like yesterday’s Flanpost.
Time… for a corn dog.

>> No.39383710

>>39383689
Yes, anon. Clearly a thread talking about politics would never have people sick of the people who force politics into other threads around them complaining.

>> No.39383714

>>39383674
>>39383683
>no answers
You must be 18 or older to browse this site.

>> No.39383729

>>39382546
>4chan and 5chan have the same owner
Hiroyuki Nishimura owns 2ch.sc (originally 2ch.net) not 5chan. 5chan is owned by the watkins family they stole the domain from Nishimura

>> No.39383731

>>39383702
Who are you quoting?
Christ, you sound like the kids who read an ED article once and start calling everyone around them newfags, down to the blank recitation of [insert thing that happened here]. The fact that you're phoneposting tops it off.

>> No.39383745

>>39383731
Answer the quiz.
>>39383621
Prove you’re an oldfag.

>> No.39383748

>>39383556
Being an oldfag isn’t a mark of status on an anonymous website where no one knows who the fuck you are. How have you been here for 18 years and not figured that out?

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39383760

Fuck it.
Which 2hu would you like to fuck the most?

>> No.39383762

>>39383621
> Who was the biggest spammer in 4chan history (over period of years), and what finally brought them down?
you, it stopped when you left /jp/
>Who rules the sky?
leave /jp/
>Who is the only mod ever who was not a faggot?
the one that'll ban you if you don't leave jp righ now

>> No.39383789

>>39383748
Spoken like a true newfag.
>>39383760
Koakuma.
>>39383762
Nah, you’ve convinced me to stick around. This place is more fun than I thought!

>> No.39383794

>>39383745
>Prove you’re an oldfag.
nta the fact that you're so obsessed with oldfags proves you're a newfag. who cares about your stupid quiz no one has to or wants to remember shit from ages ago unless you're young and had very little life experience so you are able to remember irrelevant stuff

>> No.39383804
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>>39383789
>This place is more fun than I thought!
admits being a crossie newfag

>> No.39383847
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39383847

>>39383794
>translation: I am a zoomer and have never heard of any of these things
Lurk moar.
>>39383804
Just kidding. I’m a regular in 2hu Lost Word General, boobhu, and I post all the Alice threads.
Yes, all of them. Me and no-one else.

>> No.39383886

>>39383847
You being a "regular" in the literal GACHA general post Zun-sellout sure shows everyone, huh?
What a laughable selfown. I bet you laugh at people who bother to learn moon.

>> No.39383888

>>39383847
who are you quoting? also, wrong usage of lurk moar now leave jp and stop ruining this thread

>> No.39383905

>>39383847
just who do you keep quoting

>> No.39383908

>>39383886
>>39383888
That’s ok. You can prove me wrong by answering the official 4chan “are you an oldfag” quiz!

>> No.39383941

>>39383748
That's why anyone who needs to whip out their oldfag card first to give them a boost on a anonymous board tend to be children

>> No.39383962

>>39383847
>I’m a regular in 2hu Lost Word General
You just ruined your whole case

>> No.39383967

Everyone in this thread needs to off themselves in real life.

>> No.39383990

>>39383967
Lead the way.

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thanks for ruining the thread pol crossies

>> No.39384061

>>39382973
Stop posting from your phone and return to /pol/ at once. Your posting style is annoying, and so are you.

>> No.39384063

>>39384004
Aww don’t be like that.
This is the most exciting thread this dump has had in years.

>> No.39384083

>>39384063
Not him, but /pol/ garbage is just tiresome. Most of the time the fuckers just throw out cookie cutter responses like "da joos" and things that end in "-oid." If you think this thread is good, then I don't know... take it easy, I guess.

>> No.39384095

>>39382973
>who should be on Reddit because they think they need to be sheltered from “dangerous ideas”.
what a newfag thing to say

>> No.39384165

>>39384083
I said “exciting”, not “good”.

>> No.39384209

>>39384165
I was excited to talk about 2ch's history, not bicker with /pol/tards larping as oldfags.

>> No.39385238

>>39383503
>"last bastion of free speech"
I think a huge issue is that 4chan has essentially become this, due to the state of the rest of the internet. Even if /pol/ finally gets deleted, 4chan will still be the "last bastion" to an extent, though I'd like to imagine that deleting /pol/ would clean up this website to an appreciable degree regardless.

>> No.39385370

2ch is the only website of that kind that the mainstream is aware of and it doesn't have a good reputation, but it's not like the west where 4chan is understood as some far right club.

>> No.39385401

>>39385238
>though I'd like to imagine that deleting /pol/ would clean up this website to an appreciable degree regardless.
I like to imagine a timeline where moot actually kept it deleted like he wanted it to be. He was too limp wristed and caved in to the tards he was meant to wrangle.

>> No.39385674

>>39385401
>>39385238
>>39384209
>if only /pol/ wasn’t here
You know, there’s a site without /pol/ you can go back to. Rhymes with “plebbit”. If you can’t handle dissenting views, what are you even doing here?

>> No.39385872

I come to /jp/ - Otaku Culture to talk about gay frogs sacrificing babies to Satan, and if you don't like it, you can leave.

>> No.39385946

>>39385674
reddit is where you polfags came from you retard don't deny it

>> No.39385963

>>39385946
I really do wonder how many refugees we got from r/the_donald and similar places

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>>39385963
enough to ruin other boards

>> No.39388031

>>39385238
Getting rid of /pol/ wouldn’t change much. The cancer would just flood the other boards. Containment is a viable strategy when the jannies actually do their jobs. See the difference between /mlp/ and /vt/. Still I guess we shouldn’t expect much from the unpaid.

>> No.39388136

>>39382880
Time to delete /pol/ then

>> No.39397552

>>39388136
When?

>> No.39397802

>>39383674
>>39383683
>>39383621
You guys are faggots, you could at least answer his questions. I guess this goes to show that /pol/whiners are primarily new users.
>>39383621
>Who was the biggest spammer in 4chan history (over period of years), and what finally brought them down?
I don't know if there's enough statistics to say for certain who the "biggest" spammer really was. AnonTalk would definitely be up there, having been brought down by captcha, that's the one I'd guess you're getting at. In terms of individual spammers who didn't use large scale automated posting, KoG was also notorious for a very long period, I don't actually know why he went away. Over shorter periods of time, spam due to bots like Cornelia was very concentrated.
>Who rules the sky?
Olivia.
>Who is the only mod ever who was not a faggot?
Too subjective. You're probably wanting Snacks, but I've heard he became a faggot recently. I would go with Shii personally, but he's kind of a fag for shutting down his site.

My primary board history is /b/ -> /jp/ -> /pol/ -> /g/ by the way. I was militantly against crossboarding when I was a /jp/er but I grew out of it. I hate /r/thedonald fags as much as the next guy but I hate /pol/whiners even more.

>> No.39397878

>>39397802
> primary board history is /b/ -> /jp/ -> /pol/ -> /g/
please don't post in jp ever again

>> No.39398179

>>39397878
Don't worry, I'm just passing through. I won't shit up /jp/ - Generals/General - it's yours to keep, post split immigrant.

>> No.39399194

There are Otaku, Ultra natinalist, QAnon in futaba

>> No.39399219

>>39399194
Good god Japanese QAnon posters are so cringe, why oh why of all the fringe movements that could have caught on in Japan did it have to be fucking Q.

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futaba

>> No.39402059

>>39399219
It's funny how they fell for American controlled opposition of all things, I wonder how many actually speak English and have some level of understanding towards American politics + news

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>>39402059
I've seen people actually saying shit like pic related, they're as off the wall as the burger Q boomers. I wonder if there isn't actually an active shill element pushing Q in Japan, it seems like such an odd thing for any significant number of Japanese people to latch on to otherwise. Some of it might be tongue in cheek... maybe. Watkins and his son might have a hand in it I suppose seeing as how they're candidates for having been behind the original /cbts/ threads and have a presence in Japan. There's also the weird connection with that anti-CCP faction that was spamming hunter biden's dick pics. It's all really weird and glows brighter than the sun.

>> No.39402538

>>39382287
>>39382599
Cope mope and rope, trash. America is the only relevant nation in the world, everything else is build on our backs.

>> No.39403270

>>39381012
yes
even more so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netto-uyoku

>> No.39403909

>>39402395
Japan really has a thing for cults.

>> No.39403932

>>39402395
>Watkins and his son might have a hand in it
I totally forgot about that but you're probably right on some level.
Also something I've personally noticed, is that it basically exploded overnight right around the time period where Q in America was kind of settling down into just a boomer thing. It's very weird either way.
>>39403909
This too. I wonder why...job stress?

>> No.39405239

>>39402538
Anon had a hard attack and died after making this post. His mom had to sell his onaholes and futa doujin to pay for the hospital bills, a freedom our troops died to protect

>> No.39405291

>>39399219
There was a consistent effort to spread Pizzagate and QAnon far and wide. I was there in those threads on cripplechan and they would make facebook accounts and target boomers and even minorities with their conspiracy theories, pretty much anyone religious who would believe in Satanic baby eaters. A lot of them were weebs so unsurprisingly they would try to spread it to Japanese sites too if they had access to them, and a lot of terminally online Japanese otaku tend to eat up the most extreme right-wing stuff. Trump was pretty anti-Chyna so it's not too big of a leap. They won't get most of the Jew obsession, even the Japanese in the Axis didn't really care much about Jewish people, but they'll go along if it means nuking China.
Hiroyuki himself has been confronted by this by the press, that's how much Q is known in Japan.

>> No.39409532

>>39397802
Correct answers anon: anontalk, cracky-Chan and Snacks.
There’s at least one other oldfag here!

>> No.39409597

>>39409532
You made your point you're free to leave

>> No.39409678

>>39381740
>CDBF82B4-7F1E-4F21-9256-5CE8FA33A3E5.jpg
>Honestly, letting everyone have access to the internet was a mistake. I miss the days when it was confined to a small clique of tech savvy nerds who spent all their time on a computer, which was considered unusual and antisocial.
Peak hypocrisy from an iToddler. Banning phoneposting would be a good first step to improve the site.

>> No.39409973

>>39383311
>A shame about most of the spinoffs being slow, but what can you do?
I can think of one thing you can do to make them faster: post on them.
You're waiting for other imageboards to become populated and do the "work" of establishing themselves. They could be faster, but you're not using them, alongside many, many other people who think exactly like you do which leads to 4/jp/ being the undisputed king of activity despite its gangrenous limbs.
This thread should be an inspitation for you guys to start exploring, though I'd suggest you look for otaku-oriented boards in general and not just the spinoff legacies.

>> No.39411136

Many toshiakis (futaba users) have a terrible quarrel regarding Ukraine war every day.

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>>39383202
90% of the thread is hidden for me.
They all replied to one person I guess.

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