/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

At the start of the year there was some controversy surrounding an anime called Hetalia: Axis Powers, mainly due to the Japanese trying to air the show in Korea and China
Most Weeaboo's came to the defense of the Anime (also Webcomic and Manga) saying stuff like "Koreans just suck this Anime is really funny and Kawaii desu WWII was so sugoi"
this of course ment, that Weeaboo's have no fucking idea about Asian culture, World War II or International relations between Asian countries.

Basically in Japan, Japanese students are taught this about WW2 "The Japanese went around liberating Asia from the Biritsh tyrants and then they got bombed by the Americans for
no reason" srsly, Japanese historians and their Government still deny Japanese soldiers of any wrong doing during World War II and this sort of pisses off anyone that came in contact with them.

If you didn't already know, the Imperial army was probably the most evil thing that ever existed on this planet, basically they would attack a town in China, Korea or wherever kill all the men and boys and then rape all the girls and women.... eventually bayonetting them and leaving them to die a slow and painful death, there are reports of Japanese soldiers raping entire schools full of little girls and then killing them after.
The Unlucky ones got captured and tortured in concentration camps, the VERY UNLUCKY ones got sent to Japanese research centres that experimented on you in the most absolutely horrible way possible because the Japanese were trying to find a plague they could release on everyone that would kill every single living person... apart from the Japanese that would obviously have a vaccine or cure or something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

[Anonymous No.]

Genocide against the Chinese and Koreans is numbered above 20 million, well over 4 times larger than the Holocaust against the Jews and the Japanese government denies that any of this happened (despite being well documented)

Now imagine if the Germans released a cartoon in Israel making light of the Holocaust, you know, Kawaii Germans torture Jews but they are really both Tsundere for eachother and they get into little "awkward" situations revolving around pleasuring
Yaoi fangirls... this is what Hetalia is to the Koreans and Chinese.

If you cannot see why the Koreans and Chinese are offended with this show, you are retarded to the highest degree and should probably kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

Wrong board, post it on /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

So making jokes about WWII is still too soon?

[Anonymous No.]

sugoi monogatari oniichan

[Anonymous No.]

Hetalia is awesome.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>3877099
Let's play a game. It's the game where you get someone to hold a pillow over your face until you stop having the urge to be stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877123
Ask a kike about that.

[Anonymous No.]

Hetalia is shit.

[xXxPrOuD_LoLiCoN_666xXx井animes No.]

British colonization made South Africa better because it brought more white people to the continent. That is never a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877150
*cough*Apartheid*cough*

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877154
Still you niggers have destroyed yourselves more than any colonization.

[Anonymous No.]

South Africa should be thanking the white colonials, without them they'd be as backwards as their neighbor Zimbabwe. Plus it wasn't just the British that raped Africa, the Dutch and Germans did too.

[Anonymous No.]

>implying colonization of Africa was anything other than rape their land of resources for europe.

[Anonymous ‮～ᚻᛟᛟᛟᛟᚩᛗ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>3877164
Lolrhodesia

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>3877165
>Implying that Africa was of any worth prior to colonization.

[Anonymous No.]

Race + white people on internet = productivity

[Anonymous No.]

ITT niggers mad they got slaveried and forgotten on a controlled continent they cannot develop because of the ever-so-oppressive oil companies
>>3877172

L2 HISTORY & POLITICS

AFRICA THE MOST RESOURCE RICH CONTINENT ON THE PLANET

YOU ENJOY BEING AN UNEDUCATED TARD DON'T YOU?

[Anonymous No.]

I liked you better when your posts consisted of, like, one sentence and a picture of an atomic bomb or something else.

Now some people are actually taking you seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

How is a Hetalia controversy thread about Africa?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>3877183
Learn to read a fucking sentence. My point is that Africa was worthless until humans capable of using its resources effectively arrived to colonize it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877183
As our friend Marx taught us, resources are worthless unless used.
The niggers wouldn't have been able to exploit any of it, even if we gave them a thousand years.
It was our colonization and development of infrastructure that gave these resources their worth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>Now imagine if the Germans released a cartoon in Israel making light of the Holocaust, you know, Kawaii Germans torture Jews but they are really both Tsundere for eachother and they get into little "awkward" situations revolving around pleasuring Yaoi fangirls.

You know what I see /jp/.... I see money!

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck you, mass genocide is kawaii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877100
>Now imagine if the Germans released a cartoon in Israel making light of the Holocaust, you know, Kawaii Germans torture Jews but they are really both Tsundere for eachother and they get into little "awkward" situations revolving around pleasuring
Yaoi fangirls..

Fund it

[Anonymous No.]

Adorufu-tan where?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877196
>>3877190
MY BAD LOL

VALID POINT. I'LL GO RAPE MY NECK WITH A MACHETE NOW, WHILE STILL BEING MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN A NIGGER.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>3877229
That's Arab-level productivity right there, you damn foreigner.

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that we drew up land borders that basically force tribes that are ancient enemies together on one piece of land is the main reason Africa is fucked.

African's are not like us, they see themselves as part of Ning Dong Wanga or whatever instead of say like Nigerians or Somalians, so when you are Ning Dong Wanga and some dick from Wa Cam schlong has been given the right to "rule" you and your fellow tribesmen, you and everyone else gets pissed and another African nation plunges into civil war.

Doesn't help that we basically raped their land and resources for hundreds of years and now are dumping mass amounts of Nuclear and Toxic waste in their waters by the EU to the point that life cannot even live in them (or on surrounding shores, and this is the entire cause of Somalian Pirates).

Throwing money at them is not going to do anything, basically the UN going in and "rebuilding" the entire continent from the ground up is all we can hope for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877236
The machete is all I've got. I could probably effectively remove myself with the electricity needed to power my computer.
FUCK ME FOR FAILING SO HARD. PLEASE FORGIVE MY GENETIC FAIL, AS I CANNOT BE PURE IN THIS CESSPOOL OF SEX.

[Anonymous No.]

I went to maybe the second or third most liberal college in the country (no, it wasn't Hampshire or Evergreen State), and I actually had a history professor who said that you have to separate the positive aspects of British colonialism* (the introduction of Western-style liberal democracy, pluralism and technological advances) from the negative (European paternalism, borders that made absolutely no sense in historical context and led to massive violence in the post-colonial era). In his opinion, if anything British colonalism didn't last long ENOUGH, as a few more decades might have been enough to promote the concept of rule of law and decrease violent tribal and religious differences.

I offer this as evidence that one can be a properly PC douchebag without thinking colonialism is a dirty word.

*He did not have anything positive to say about Spanish colonialism, Belgian colonialism, Dutch colonialism or American 'manifest destiny.'

[Anonymous No.]

Well now they traded the British for the Chinese, that's much better right?

[Anonymous No.]

>Basically in Japan, Japanese students are taught this about WW2 "The Japanese went around liberating Asia from the Biritsh tyrants and then they got bombed by the Americans for no reason"

And how do you know that's actually true and you've been taught lies by your historians?
that's right, you don't you fucking hypocrite.

[NewFriend !zkraGArAss No.]

Why the fuck can't I report threads after the DDoS shit?
Crap like this thread needs to be wiped off this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877252
19th and 20th century colonialism was a money-losing venture for the home governments. That's why most colonial powers didn't have to be convinced very much to give up their colonies: it saved money. Only the French were being hardons about it, because of their silly belief in the idea that modern France is somehow a great power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877252

The difference is that before we went and gave them borders they were shitty, worthless tribesmen wasting the land. They achieved nothing, produced nothing, did nothing to advance the human condition, and wouldn't even be called "civilized" by a modern definition of the term.

After the British came they got states and government and police and roads. Sure, the governments are all corrupt, militia kill and main for control of diamonds and gold, and half the continent is infected with AIDs, but that doesn't matter, that isn't important.

What is important is that the Africans bought British factory-produced clothes and British clocks and British railway lines. They bought tea sets and furniture and Gas Lamps and Candles. Later, they bought American Coca-Cola and American guns and American shoes.

And that's progress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877291
Because we have documents, video's, photo's and millions of eye witness accounts of the events?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877308
All fucking shooped

[Anonymous No.]

I remember reading an article in Time or National Geographic about people in the Congo WISHING that the Belgians would come back.
Yeah. The same Belgians that are associated with setting up the same oppressive, genocidal, and horribly inhumane colonial administration that is now infamous in history. They want them back. Because, despite the hand cutting and brutal oppression, shit got done. Unlike what's happening now.
Same thing in Zimbabwe. They'd much rather have the Rhodesians back, because they turned a small, landlocked African nation into a significant economic and military power. Unlike now, where several trillion Zimbabwean dollars can buy you half of a stale loaf of bread.
Oh well. Let the die-hard PC liberals think that self-rule in Africa is a good thing. Let them throw their money to pointless relief efforts and asinine school buildings that will only be squandered by the state. Hopefully in the future, we'll be able to do something that'll actually work on the continent. For now, it's best if we just ignore that Africa even exists.

[Anonymous No.]

In the end the Brits turned out alright.

In the 17 and 18 century when expanding into the Pacific and Asia they decided to actually ally the natives instead of conquer them, probably due to it saving money (not having to set up much international infrastructure is cheaper than buying shit off natives for beads and tea sets).

The last "race" the British were douchbags really to were the Aborigines, but that was because the extent of their "technology" was a sharpened stick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877308
Have you ever seen that picture of Lening giving a speech with Trotsky shooped out ?
This, on a massive scale.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>3877304
Africans can't rule themselves because they're a bunch of stupid, tribalist twats.

At least the Irish have stopped killing people (mostly), and the Irish had a real reason to do what they did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877308
So does Japan.
There's this new thing called forged evidence, welcome to earth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877099
Old copypastacarbonara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877331

The IRA were really shit though, I'd just like to make sure this is clear with everyone, it's something Americans tend to forget.

When they were fighting for independence in Ireland they were your regular, morally-grey but generally all right freedom fighters. When they were fighting for control of Northern Ireland they were douchebag terrorists, nothing more. They bombed train stations, office buildings and schools.

When the Irish Free State was formed in 1922, Northern Ireland was given the option of opting out of the union, which they did. Bear in mind that the government of Northern Ireland at the time was democratically elected, and that Suffrage was extended to the populace regardless of religion or sex.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>3877345
Didn't help that the English did what they do best: importing Englishmen to the region.

Ireland for the Irish. Not that I agree with their actions, it's just they had a real reason. The English were douchebags for centuries. I'd want them out, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877304
>and American guns
Right, and that's why the AK-47 is on the flags of several African nations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877355

Yeah it always gets a bit dodgey when you try to work out who got to the land "first".

Majority of British colonists in Ireland were Scottish, the the Scots tribe originally migrated to Scotland from Ulster in the 7th century, displacing the Picts.

The British colonists have been there for almost 4 centuries now, and they mostly originated from Ireland anyway, far back in the mists of time. I feel they have as much right to the land as, say, our cousins across the Atlantic.

[Kimchi Smith No.]

>>3877369
America invent AK-47, is stolen by pig dog Russians.
Apology juice long demanded. Kalashnikov is a murderer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877355
You forgot the fact that all "nations" have no basis in fact, they are just remnants from kingdoms conquering areas.
In fact most ethnicities only have imaginary common heritage.

[Anonymous No.]

Genocide is a good way to wipe out inferior and rival races. Germany and Japan had the right idea, as did previous colonial empires like Britain. Only niggers, gooks and liberals complain about this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

You know that opening scene in CoD:WaW?

The one where the captured Marines are being tortured and executing by the Japanese? That was my grandfather in there. He was sent out with the Marines as an alternative to court martial for assaulting an Officer and stuck behind enemy lines for three months in a 95% casualty unit. He was caught, beaten and infected with tropical malaria and was almost executed before he escaped. HE spent six weeks surviving in the jungle and hiding from patrols and search parties looking for him because he was stalking their patrols and killing them.

On his death bed, he told me about all the horrific things he saw them do. They'd starve the prisoners and throw them in a cage of dogs for entertainment and watch them be torn apart. He saw his comrades beheaded daily, some times they'd crucify them instead and bleed them to death from being nailed to a palm tree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877659
And yet you're here, in /jp/, on 4chan of all places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877669
I think his reason, in this case, is "fuck the world, I'm staying in my room."

[Anonymous No.]

THIS IS WHAT APH HATERS ACTUALLY BELIEVE.

Dude, we know about how vicious the Japanese government was, and Korea has an absolute right to be angry about that.
However, Hetalia doesn't even touch on this subject, and when the fandom generally does, most of them are intelligent and educated about the Japanese actions in WWII.

In short, Korea is using Hetalia as a gateway to become angry at Japan. Hetalia did nothing wrong, and does not deserve this.

OH OH OH, WAIT. DO YOU COME FROM FANDOMSECRETS?

If so, fuck off. That entire issue started when some troll copypasta'd the worst posts on the Kink meme (which were generally shunned by the majority of APH fans) and said that this was how the entire fandom was.

All the intelligent Hetalia fans pwn'd you guys in the beginning of the debates, but when the fights continuously repeated with the same things brought up by you guys again and again as though you had short term memory loss, we got bored and left. Leaving the 13 year olds not intelligent enough to ignore you guys to write textwalls against you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877434
you forgot Spain and South America, that was 3 cultures smashed

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877659
You know that opening scene in CoD:WaW?

The one where the captured Marines are being tortured and executing by the Japanese? That was my grandfather in there. He killed a whole bunch of those gaijin devils in the name of the great Showa Emperor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877761
>when the fandom generally does, most of them are intelligent and educated about the Japanese actions in WWII.
>All the intelligent Hetalia fans pwn'd you guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877761
Butthurt much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877790
No, mostly annoyed.

Although there is a dose of retarded yaoi fangirl teenagers in the Hetalia fandom, a good portion of them are also history majors, and write some pretty amazing fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877099
You know, why would a country fess up to any wrongdoing. It's national interest to deny that what they did was wrong. Even America has done many things it shouldn't have under the guise of protecting America's freedom and spreading democracy. It makes sense the Japanese would say the same about their actions in WWII.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877816
Stop making me laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877819
You mean America hasn't always done good things ?
I'm sure those guerillas and assassinations the US funded were for the right cause !

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877816
>amazing fanfiction
No such thing.
>a good portion of them are history majors
Yeah right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877835
You'd be surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877816
Oh wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877849
At how shitty Hetalia and the entire fandom surrounding it is? Yeah, it's pretty surprising.

[Anonymous No.]

inb4 troll thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877867
Depends on the sections. Theres some incredibly retarded sections of the Hetalia fandom, and then there are some really awesome sections. Usually the awesome ones are restrained to the IRC or obscure groups on LJ though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877911
Hetalia and its fandom as a whole is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

But World War 2 was kawaiii

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>You know, why would a country fess up to any wrongdoing. It's national interest to deny that what they did was wrong. Even America has done many things it shouldn't have under the guise of protecting America's freedom and spreading democracy. It makes sense the Japanese would say the same about their actions in WWII.

Only germans do that. Because jews are perpetually infected with butthurt and run hollywood on top of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877099
Do me a favor and post this on /cm/, okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3878256
How bad is /cm/ since this Hetalia shit came out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3878264

>Axis Powers Hetalia #554 Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)03:03 No.1777811 [Reply]

Previous thread: >>1777183

Axis Powers Hetalia is a web comic drawn by Himaruya Hidekaz and depicts the story of actual countries as anthropomorphisms.

Official site: http://www.geocities.jp/himaruya/hetaria

A few scanlations are available here: http://sites.google.com/site/hetaliaindexes/

rars of the images from most of the previous threads can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/hetalia

Hetalia Kink Meme here: http://hetalia-kink.livejournal.com

List of Hetalia Pixiv tags: http://nejime0419.livejournal.com/1148.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>3878272
Holy shit. It's infected /c/ too.

[Anonymous No.]

I remember seeing this thread on /a/ yesterday. And I thought we were better then them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877100
>[Yaoi fangirls] you are retarded to the highest degree and should probably kill yourself.
I agree, but not for the reasons you mentioned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3877761
Have you SEEN the character depictions for Korea and China in Hetalia? They ahve every right to be pissed off.