/a/non here. Who would be the strongest Touhou girl?

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Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:22:56 2009 No.3685641 [Reply] [Original]

/a/non here. Who would be the strongest Touhou girl?

>>	ˁ﴾•ᴥ•﴿ˀType-Moon Fanˁ﴾•ᴥ•﴿ˀ !MOONmNft4g Sat Nov 7 16:22:56 2009 No.3685642 VIVIT

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:22:56 2009 No.3685645 Yuka /Thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:23:56 2009 No.3685648 File: 22 KB, 102x131, 2rqeoa8.jpg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3685645

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:24:56 2009 No.3685655 File: 35 KB, 400x500, 1235446206778.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Define "strongest"

>>	(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ BOOF ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Sat Nov 7 16:25:56 2009 No.3685662 inb4 cirno spam

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:31:56 2009 No.3685708 Without spellcards, Raymoo.

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 16:32:56 2009 No.3685719 VIVIT>Youkai Moe>Shikieiki>Yukari>Tenshi>Suika>Reimu Personally I think Shinki is the strongest but yeah

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:40:56 2009 No.3685760
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>>3685641
If by strongest you mean brute strength and muscle it would be Yuugi followed by Suika.

If you meant "hax power level" then it would be Yukari (a Youkai that's older than Gensokyo and has the power to manipulate borders). Which technically gives her the power to do pretty much anything. Anything you throw at her will probably end up popping out of your stomach and into your rectum. ZUN actually uses Yukari as a scapegoat to explain why Reimu is able to beat some of the other over powered bosses. I.e., Reimu is usually accompanied by Yukari on some of the more tougher battles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:43:56 2009 No.3685784 >>3685760 >ZUN actually uses Yukari as a scapegoat to explain why Reimu is able to beat some of the other over powered bosses. I.e., Reimu is usually accompanied by Yukari on some of the more tougher battles. "happened once" = "usually" I guess

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 16:45:56 2009 No.3685796 >>3685760 yet she's scared shitless of shiki

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:46:56 2009 No.3685797 Including Hax: Sakuya, Yukari, Yuyuko. Otherwise Yuka, Suika and Aya are pretty "directly" strong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:48:56 2009 No.3685812 >>3685796 Shikieiki doesn't count.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:51:56 2009 No.3685832 Shiki's only super strong when you're dead and in front of her. Otherwise she's just some lady who's pretty good at danmaku for someone with a desk job.

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 16:52:56 2009 No.3685842 >>3685832 or if you are yukari apparently wwww

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:54:56 2009 No.3685851 >>3685842 Probably just didn't want an earful, Yukari's probably committed hella sins over the last thousand years or whatever

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 16:55:56 2009 No.3685857 >>3685851 she could just gap her ass back to mayohiga if that was the case

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 16:58:56 2009 No.3685877
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You can technically use Shoot the Bullet to measure their powerlevels. In StB, ZUN organized the characters in order of weakest to strongest with characters like Wriggle, Rumia, and Cirno appearing in the earlier stages and characters like Remilia, Yuyuko, and Kaguya appearing in the later stages. And for the EX stages he had Suika and Yukari. Suika is said to be the strongest of her kind.

Sikieiki is technically the final boss of StB, but as you know extra stage bosses are usually stronger than the final bosses.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Shoot_the_Bullet:_Characters

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 17:00:56 2009 No.3685902 >>3685877 >extra stage bosses are usually stronger than the final bosses like Yukari, Flandre and nobody else

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:02:56 2009 No.3685916 ZUN said yukari was the strongest youkai in Ran's profile for Perfect Memento in Strict Sense >Naturally, the one who has enslaved this strongest of the youkai beasts and uses her for various mundane tasks is the strongest youkai, Yukari Yakumo

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:03:56 2009 No.3685925 >>3685902 we all know mokou is stronger than kaguya

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 17:05:56 2009 No.3685935 >>3685925 I like Mokou more than Kaguya yet I know Kaguya is stronger than Mokou

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:05:56 2009 No.3685946 File: 15 KB, 233x215, cirno=O.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Eye hate every single one of you.

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Sat Nov 7 17:08:56 2009 No.3685960
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If we're talking heavy lifting, either of the oni. It's unclear which of them is the stronger, although Yuugi seems to be on top if her title is to be taken literally.
In either case, Suika's strength is easier to apply in practice since she can change size - Yuugi lifting something many times her size would either result in parts of it breaking off, or her sinking into the ground.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:09:56 2009 No.3685968
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>>3685916
ZUN actually puts details into the race (or should I say species) of youkai. In Subterranean Animism, ZUN said Utsuho was a weak youkai that stumbled upon great power. Had a powerful species of youkai like Yukari or Remilia got that power, they would have been unstoppable.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:11:56 2009 No.3685979

>>3685935
but mokou has phoenix fire powers and can burn everything up

kaguya has some vague ability to influence things which last forever or a short time or whatever

also how can any of you think yuugi is stronger than suika? because yuugi is taller?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:14:56 2009 No.3685994 >>3685968 making nuclear explosions still fails fails in comparison to manipulating boundaries, yukari could just move a nuclear blast to neptune or something

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:17:56 2009 No.3686011

Hax Power : Yukari >>> Flandre = Eirin's shady new drug > Yuyuko

Fisticuffs Power : Yuugi > Suika ?>= Moon sisters >>> Aya > 中国

Other Possibles - Reimu (IN Last Word), Kanako/Suwako (when faith level is maximum), Ran, Really healthy Patchy, Eirin, Reisen, Yuka

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:18:56 2009 No.3686016 >>3685979 Wait so. Kaguyas power... Could she make a fire burn forever?

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:18:56 2009 No.3686018

>>3685935
According to ZUN both were successful at killing each other.

But here's something you should take note of. Mokou a mere human started out significantly weaker than Kaguya (a pureblooded moon princess). Kaguya's inheritance alone makes her stronger than most Touhous. But Mokou actually caught up to her power and was even able to kill her at one point. Mokou will do anything to get more power in order to kill Kaguya, and at the rate she's going she might one day be granted a power to do it. Kaguya on the other hand is too lazy to get stronger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_oHxm8TYu0

Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 17:20:56 2009 No.3686025

>>3685979
Kaguya is stronger than mokou because she can simply preserve her body eternally. With her ability she can turn her frilly dress into an armor more resistant than diamond or whichever material ORT is made of, it will never break, it will never get stained, it will never get penetrated.
Mokou can just burn stuff.
Yuugi VS Suika is a tough fight, since Yuugi's hax is not determined yet

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:23:56 2009 No.3686037

>>3686025
She doesn't have full power over eternity. There are some limits. It was her power that made Mokou immortal yet it's that same power that's incapable of undoing Mokou.

Kaguya would be lost without Erin, who in my opinion is much more stronger than both of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:24:56 2009 No.3686039 I usually think of Kaguya as an upgraded Sakuya. She probably would be way stronger than Mokou, but she uses most of her powers to exist without a hat/accessory, so they're pretty even.

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 17:24:56 2009 No.3686045 >>3686037 Hourai Elixir=!=Kaguya's manipulation of eternity it was made with her help but it doesn't mean it's something she can control

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Sat Nov 7 17:25:56 2009 No.3686049 File: 139 KB, 1015x700, 1256250958954.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3686025 Beer rain, among other things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:25:56 2009 No.3686050 Player character>All

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:28:56 2009 No.3686062 >>3686049 Suika has to hold her drink in a gourd. Yuugi keeps hers in a small dish while only playing around woth you her sake NOT EVEN DROP

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:29:56 2009 No.3686066

>>3686045
It was technically created "using her power", not by "using her help" as you phrased it.

Also, the reason why she got exiled from the moon in the first place is because she drank the Hourai Elixir of immortality, implying that the Lunarians don't have the power to make themselves immortal with their own power.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:30:56 2009 No.3686070 File: 9 KB, 128x256, Th03mima.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 'Sup

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Sat Nov 7 17:32:56 2009 No.3686077 File: 393 KB, 1000x849, marisamimabones.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3686070 With strange aeons, even death may die?

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 17:33:56 2009 No.3686080 >>3686066 she may be able to preserve her appearance eternally with her power >>3686070 barely in high tier

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:36:56 2009 No.3686089

>She is possessed of enormous strength, and boasts that if she wanted to, she could tear down the Mountain of Youkai by herself (*2).
from suika's profile in Perfect Memento in Strict Sense

also in her Aya interview Suika shattered the heavens and made it look like the moon was in pieces

seriously what can yuugi do

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 17:39:56 2009 No.3686098 >>3686089 make her disappear since her existence is something paranormal, or maybe disable her powers, basically Yuugi would be the perfect youkai slaughterer

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Sat Nov 7 17:40:56 2009 No.3686102 File: 535 KB, 700x900, yuugibalance.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3686089 Well... ... good question. Nobody knows.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:43:56 2009 No.3686119 Kaguya and Mokou are apparently too strong to appear in the Fighting Games.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:45:56 2009 No.3686126

>>3686089
Well simply referring to hax power Suika would win (as we currently don't know the full extent of Yuugi's hax), but as far as muscles go I'd have to go with Yuugi. Just by judging her acrobatic skills of balancing her drink without drop, if you mess with her she not even try. wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:45:56 2009 No.3686129 File: 153 KB, 706x644, 380e4e6bf8785f1f00e9f504f06d462b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3686119 But Suwako is a goddess, and she got in. What difference in power could be? Also, Yukari.

>>	None !KYON.wwv9s Sat Nov 7 17:46:56 2009 No.3686131 I don't even remember oni being that strong in folklore, I mean they were high class and all but not as ZUN portrays them. Or am I wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:47:56 2009 No.3686137 of course Yuugi is stronger than Suika its Yuugi THE STRONG you idiots

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:48:56 2009 No.3686142 >>3686119 Wrong, idiot

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:48:56 2009 No.3686144 >>3686131 I'd be very interested in a place to read about oni folklore

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:48:56 2009 No.3686145 >>3686129 I believe ZUN was referring to the fact that they're immortal. A regenerating health bar would kinda kill the fun in a fighting game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:48:56 2009 No.3686146 >>3686129 Mokou revives herself every time she is killed. Suwako, on the other hand, despite being a god, can be killed, and does not revive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:49:56 2009 No.3686149 >>3686119 People are still believing that joke translation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:49:56 2009 No.3686152 Power levels don't work in Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:49:56 2009 No.3686155 >>3686146 You don't know that. She'll probably be revived as long as she has believers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:50:56 2009 No.3686160 >>3686131 I think the four devas are like super special boss oni

>>	None !KYON.wwv9s Sat Nov 7 17:50:56 2009 No.3686161 >>3686144 I don't know more than one learn from videogames. That's why I'm asking, since I don't remember seeing them as "hax" beings, just incredibly strong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:50:56 2009 No.3686163 >>3686155 How many does she have? Sanae doesn't count.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:53:56 2009 No.3686172 >>3686152 >>3686152

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:53:56 2009 No.3686173

>>3686137
but what if someone else was THE STRONGEST?

>>3686119
Too strong as in the mechanics that ZUN and the other devs had designed for them were OP and they didn't feel like trying to balance them.

>>3686129
Suwako and Kanako's powers are based on how much faith they have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:54:56 2009 No.3686177 >>3686163 All the kappa and tengu are extremely grateful for the miracles Kanako and Suwako have accomplished.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:54:56 2009 No.3686178 >>3686163 right now? she has the faith of the tengu and kappa on youkai mountain

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:54:56 2009 No.3686179 >>3686173 >THE STRONGEST inb4 baka

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 17:59:56 2009 No.3686202
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>>3686178
I wonder if fairies would be a good source of faith. Looking at the games, there are ten fucking thousand of them. Even if they're flaky and stupid it might work through sheer numbers.

Pic not related.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:01:56 2009 No.3686212
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>Imperishable Night - キャラ設定.txt

>She is one of the oldest beings in Gensokyo and has the power to prove it. Gensokyo's origins have been long forgotten by humans and even most youkai, but it seems that she still remembers some part of it. She is often described as devious; that's mainly because she doesn't think like a human, so others find her actions quite difficult to comprehend. She easily has enough power to annihilate all of Gensokyo if she so desires, so it's probably a good thing that she is somewhat weird...

ZUN agreed; don't bother him about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:02:56 2009 No.3686215 What is Moriya Suwako's connection with 「Super Robot」?

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 18:05:56 2009 No.3686232 >>3686212 most EX-Tiers can destroy Gensokyo too, like Tenshi

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:09:56 2009 No.3686253 >>3686232 Please stop inventing theories.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:09:56 2009 No.3686254
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>Yukari's power to manipulate boundaries gives her power over all sorts of things and is comparable to the powers of the gods.

>Her manipulation of boundaries even affect illusion and reality, or the fictional and the actual.

>Because Gensokyo itself exists due to the boundary around it, Yukari could supposedly destroy Gensokyo if she wished.

Hax much?

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Sat Nov 7 18:12:56 2009 No.3686265
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>>3686131

Depends on the myth in question. In either case, an oni is always physically stronger than a human, but how big the gap is is highly variable.

On one end of the spectrum, you got the Momotaro sort of oni, who aren't worse than a slight infestation to be exterminated - pretty much local dangerous animals. On the other end, you have the Kojiki sort which border on being godlike - easily powerful enough to take down Yamato Takeru, who's pretty much the cream of the crop as far as Japanese mythical heroes go.
The later sort are probably the inspiration for the deva of the mountain, particularly since said confrontation took place on mount Ibuki.

Haven't found a lot written about oni and their relation to booze, though. Couple of sources mention oni being fond of the stuff, but haven't found any mention of oni being permanently drunk. With Suika being short and having long orange hair, guessing ZUN may have been influenced by the shojo, which too are known to be heavy drinkers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:13:56 2009 No.3686267 >>3686232 Tenshi gets a pass at "destroy Gensokyo" only because her background mentions protecting earthquake Keystones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:16:56 2009 No.3686281 Keep in mind that Yuugi tries to help you in SA. She would be far stronger if she actually wanted to stop you, but she was just playing around. It's her idea of friendly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:20:56 2009 No.3686296 >>3686265 >Kojiki Welp, I know what I'm going to be reading for the next few days.

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Sat Nov 7 18:20:56 2009 No.3686298 >>3686253 >invent >the plot of SWR centered on Tenshi trying to destroy gensokyo

>>	insanezero !VUNofZD8jM Sat Nov 7 18:22:56 2009 No.3686306 Dragons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:23:56 2009 No.3686313 File: 169 KB, 800x800, 32fe7e70853bb4c83f40994bd8781594.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cirn⑨

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:34:56 2009 No.3686387

>>3685994
>making nuclear explosions still fails fails in comparison to manipulating boundaries, yukari could just move a nuclear blast to neptune or something

Yukari could technically open up a border to the sun and have more nuclear power than Utsuho. But since she's an asexual, old hag, she doesn't have any interest in such things.

I actually respect ZUN for creating Yukari, Yuka, and Kaguya's powers. It's not every day you get to see an anti-hero with the power to manipulate boundaries. Most characters have generic powers like fire, water, ice, or spirit. A Yukari game developed by valve would be awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TluRVBhmf8w

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Sat Nov 7 18:37:56 2009 No.3686403
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>>3686296

Save yourself the trouble.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/shi/kj/kj095.htm

Keep in mind that oni were originally invisible shapeshifting creatures, only having acquired the horns and tiger panties in the past 500 years. So the appearance of the one in the story might be a bit of a surprise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:40:56 2009 No.3686429 >>3686403 Nah, I've been wanting to read about moon-myths for a while. No need to save me trouble

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:41:56 2009 No.3686437 File: 86 KB, 907x985, 1247586423331.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ANIKI

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 18:59:17 2009 No.3686522 >>3686265 starts on Yamato Takeru pfft. Through the Wind Cries = Yayoi period? And here I was enjoying the idea of Suwako and Kuuga teaming up to fight Grongi. (Jomon period, remember?)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 19:02:56 2009 No.3686549 >>3686265 starts on Yamato Takeru pfft. Through the Wind Cries = Yayoi period? And here I was enjoying the idea of Suwako and Kuuga teaming up to fight Grongi. (Jomon period, remember?) What is that rod that Sanae carries? It's not a gohei, right?

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 19:50:56 2009 No.3686751
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>>3686387
>Yukari could technically open up a border to the sun and have more nuclear power than Utsuho. But since she's an asexual, old hag, she doesn't have any interest in such things.
Doubtful, since she had to resort to using the reflection of the moon on the lake to open a gap even that far. I don't think she'd be able to quickly open one to the sun in a battle situation.
Of course, in the end it all comes down to how you interpret her power. A lot of people here seem to equate it with omnipotence, but I like to think there are limits to how much she can toy with borders. Time and power constraints.
She's definitely one of the heavy-hitters, nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 19:53:56 2009 No.3686761 >>3686751 The question is, why? Maybe it's because Yukari has to gap people besides herself that she had to do that moon reflection.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 19:56:56 2009 No.3686775 >>3686751 My god, it's the perfect Hancock pose

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 19:57:56 2009 No.3686780

>>3686751
She toyed with the reflection on on the lake because she had to transport a whole army of youkai, not just herself. Certainly it would be easier to make a 'permanent' portal to pour troops through while still commanding at the front lines than to spend time and thought gapping groups back and forth herself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:00:56 2009 No.3686794 >>3686751 that's a neat picture but what's up with her boobs

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:04:56 2009 No.3686814 File: 100 KB, 800x600, yuka_kazami_01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] not enough Yuka ITT

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:16:56 2009 No.3686860 File: 13 KB, 170x170, 1245569504663.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3686387 >>Yukari >>asexual >>old hag

shadowbringer Sat Nov 7 20:18:56 2009 No.3686864

Yukari has lower chances of winning against the Watatsuki sisters, even though she accomplished her goal in SSiB, she was defeated once.

There's also the dragon (if it's not alone, then, the dragons), besides Vivit and Eirin. (Eirin is also canonically more powerful than Kaguya)
There's also not enough information to estimate how well would Suika and Yugi do, if they don't limit themselves (first, if Aya really means that Suika is the strongest that she had faced in StB -- despite Aya herself having defeated everyone there -- Eirin included --, even her own mirror image. Second, if Yugi doesn't limit herself to not let her sake drop. There's not enough information to even conclude that she wasn't holding back from the start, the sake dish could even have made no difference to her, or could've handicapped her)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:26:56 2009 No.3686907 File: 106 KB, 600x800, 1256773416931.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yukari only let Reimu win in PCB's phantasm stage so she could keep Reimu alive so she could troll her in IN and SA

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:28:56 2009 No.3686914 >>3686907 Same goes for prettymuch everyone stronger than her. That and the whole CANT TOUCH THIS MIKO thing.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:31:56 2009 No.3686921
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>>3686018
10 They're both immortal and can never die. ZUN already claimed them
to live forever.
2) It's Kaguya who tries to kill Mokou, not the other way around.

I hate how fandom keeps messing things up.

>>3686119
This man speaks the truth

>>3686146
This one also speaks the truth

And if there's any debate about who's stronger than who, Mokou is probably stronger than Kaguya. She IS an extra boss, after all, but the two are about at an even level since they both kill each other on a daily basis.
Kaguya may have the ability to manipulate eternity, but Mokou can burn stuff up. If you want to argue "Kaguya can make danmaku that never burn out", I can just as easily argue "the Phoenix's flame Mokou wields also never burns out"

It's settled. Kaguya and Mokou are at about an even level.

shadowbringer Sat Nov 7 20:36:56 2009 No.3686934

>>3686921
Extra stage bosses aren't always better than final bosses.
Flandre > Remilia
Suwako < Kanako

One could say that Extra stages are more difficult than Normal, however imho it's more difficult to do a Lunatic 1cc than an Extra clear. (so, it's kind of balanced out)

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:39:56 2009 No.3686938

>>3686934
I wouldn't know who's stronger than who. ZUN never gets too deep into their character, so he always keeps us guessing. However, if Kaguya really IS stronger than Mokou, she can't be that much stronger as ZUN already said they kill each other daily.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:39:56 2009 No.3686941 Reimu has some kind of oneesama-magnet on her. All the stronger touhous end being her friends/having a non-canon crush on her.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:40:56 2009 No.3686945

>>3686921
Both of their powers are pretty limited though. Kaguya lacks the ability to undo Mokou's immortality. You'd think if you had the ability to make things eternal you would be able to unmake things eternal. And Mokou cant even put out a forest fire meaning she lacks the ability to fully manipulate flames. Cirno has more control over ice than Mokou and her fire.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:43:56 2009 No.3686949 >>3686907 What about Marisa and Sakuya? By the way, power levels don't work in Touhou.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:45:56 2009 No.3686956

>>3686945

It only makes sense though. If you make something eternal, you can't UNmake it. That's why it's eternal (haha). It makes sense why Kaguya can't do anything about it, even though she can manipulate eternity. It can only be manipulated once, hence why it's eternal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:49:56 2009 No.3686966 File: 198 KB, 1029x782, 1257404893019.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "Strongest" is a wide term. Here have a breakdown.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:49:56 2009 No.3686968 >>3686864 I wonder how Yukari lost against the Lunarian army. It seems as if the Lunarian army is the strongest force in the Touhou-verse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:50:56 2009 No.3686975 >>3685935 >>3685925 Kaguya = Mokou If they weren't equal how would they find each other to a standstill eternally?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:50:56 2009 No.3686976 >>3686968 That probably is the case...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:51:56 2009 No.3686982 >>3686968 Their powerlevels probably put Nanoha, Negima and BLAME! to shame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:54:56 2009 No.3686991 >>3686968 Yukari never actually fought on the Moon. She just lead some dangerous youkai to their deaths.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:56:56 2009 No.3687000 I find it ironic how Eirin, a nurse, is the only one who actually committed murder in Gensokyo. ZUN has so many inside jokes, they are just waiting to be unveiled.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:57:56 2009 No.3687002

>>3686991
This is fanon, but it's what I like to believe.
Yukari just used the invasion of the moon as a means to lead all her competitors to their deaths.
Of course, this implies that the Lunarians defeated multiple youkai who were strong enough to bother Yukari. But then youkai can be dangerous for many reasons, not necessarily just their battle hax.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:57:56 2009 No.3687004 >>3686968 They have really really really hax technology.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 20:58:56 2009 No.3687008 >>3687000 Who'd she kill?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:00:56 2009 No.3687014 >>3687008 The other Lunarian emissaries sent after Kaguya, and the humans Kaguya was living with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:01:56 2009 No.3687018 >>3686934 Hell, some extras are way easier than a Hard 1cc.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:02:56 2009 No.3687025

Well there are some things unhaxable. Yukari's borders are only limited to... well, borders.

Eternity is border-less, limit-less, basically infinite. So Yukari can't control absolutely EVERYTHING. But she is still probably the most powerful and most hax character of them all

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:05:56 2009 No.3687032

>>3687014
The moon's emmisionaries.

"Long ago, Eirin was one of a party of messengers who were sent to bring Kaguya back to the moon; the crime for which she was exiled to Earth had been forgiven. For some reason, she helped Kaguya kill all the other messengers instead. To ensure that the earthlings who lived with Kaguya would remain silent, she bribed them with the Hourai Elixir. The elixir had the power to make people immortal. None of those earthlings consumed the elixir, however, and died shortly afterwards. It was later discovered that they were murdered." - TouhouWiki

"Lady Yagokoro advised us to kill him right away, but that seemed like going too far." Of course, the fact that I'd looked after him so long made it difficult to kill him. My sister was the same, so she didn't want to kill him, either. - Cage in Lunatic Runagate

Eirin has had her murderous way with more innocent people than the fandom seems to let on to, so I decided to draw my interpretation of what went on 1,000 years before the events of the game Imperishable Night. I find it interesting that none of the people who you face in the games end up getting killed for their actions (I suppose danmaku-play is a pretty safe game). Unless Im mistaken, Eirin is the only character to have ever murdered someone within Touhou, and shes done it quite a bit. ZUN was certainly poking around irony when he decided to make her a nurse.

She's not just a murderer. She's a traitorous murderer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:08:56 2009 No.3687040 File: 141 KB, 840x480, super_beasts_13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3687032

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:11:56 2009 No.3687049 >>3687040 and you, sir, proved me wrong. I guess fandom isn't so bad after all...

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:12:56 2009 No.3687057

>>3687002
>Of course, this implies that the Lunarians defeated multiple youkai who were strong enough to bother Yukari. But then youkai can be dangerous for many reasons, not necessarily just their battle hax.
I just like the idea Yukari sent them to die so she could steal all the sake from their now-empty houses

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:13:56 2009 No.3687064
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>>3687025
Her ability to manipulate boundaries technically gives her the power to manipulate everything with a boundary. That includes (but is not limited to) the boundary of time, space, matter, and reality. Some tend to think she only has the ability to manipulate the boundary of space. Again, her power is NOT the portal gun.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Nov 7 21:14:56 2009 No.3687066

>>3687032

Don't mess with the Lunarian crew.

They're super hardcore.

Also, Eientei crew is grim-n-dark canonically as you just so kindly pointed out, hence why I favor them.

You have...

1]A dangerous mad scientist[Eirin]
2]A mentally scarred Ex-commando[Reisen]
3]Killer loli[Tewi]
4]IMMORTAL GOD-EMPRESS[Kaguya Houraisan]

I think that is pretty sweet, but that's just me.

>>	Comrade General Sat Nov 7 21:15:56 2009 No.3687072 File: 372 KB, 800x600, remivsyuka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Remilia from Embodiment of Scarlet Devil. Her power is maximum.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:17:56 2009 No.3687077

>>3687032
Now you're just getting technical. Most of the inhabitants of Gensokyo are youkai: no doubt, a number of them have killed and some possibly still do kill.
In canon, Mokou killed the final messanger bringing the Hourai Elixir up to the mountain.
While not exactly canon, Eirin appears to almost die in the non-Kaguya boss end of IN (Final A).
In canon, each team kills Mokou throughout her last few spellcards in the IN extra.
IN = death

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:18:56 2009 No.3687080 >>3687066 And a firefly and a nightbird and a lycanthrope.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:20:56 2009 No.3687088 >>3687066 The Lunarians are so powerful that even Eirin and Kaguya are hiding from them. The Lunarian army is one big marry sue.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:21:56 2009 No.3687093 >>3687066 Tewi isn't bad, don't lump her in with those murderous moon-rabbits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:21:56 2009 No.3687095 >>3687077 They never killed her. She resurrects each time

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:23:56 2009 No.3687104 >>3687032 Yukari killed mokou a lot of times in thier extra stage fight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:25:56 2009 No.3687115 >>3687066 Wait. How is tewi killer loli?

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:25:56 2009 No.3687117

>>3687095
According to ZUN, Kaguya and Mokou's body takes a while to recover, sometimes even weeks. But if you destroy their entire body i.e., make them explode they regenerate completely/instantly. Hence the reason why Kaguya and Mokou explode when you destroy one of their health bars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:25:56 2009 No.3687122 >>3687117 Kaguya doesn't explode or resurrect when you fight her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:25:56 2009 No.3687123 >>3687095 Being resurrected sort of follows the death of that particular person, unless Mokou overdosed on tea and biscuits while fighting them or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:27:56 2009 No.3687125 >>3687122 It looks like she was exploding.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:28:56 2009 No.3687130 >>3687123 they don't die dammit! Also, >>3687040 this is a good doujin I want more like this that have Mokou in it Is there more? What are their names?

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Nov 7 21:28:56 2009 No.3687132
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>>3687088

Wonder at the marvels of the Lunarian Empire. Truly, an unstoppable juggernaught of conquest and victory....if you believe the propaganda.

And let's not forget the Imperial Lunar Navy. They could crack the crust of a planet with a full barrage.

>>3687093
>>3687115

>killer loli

Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:31:56 2009 No.3687138 My bones.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Nov 7 21:35:56 2009 No.3687154
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>>3687138

>I AM BONE MIMA

oookay?

>>3687080

>And a firefly and a nightbird and a lycanthrope.

The lycanthrope I don't remember, as there were no wolf-type characters unless you count Momizi and the wolf-slut is in another game.

I think.

Also, there is a cow.

>WHO IS TEACHING?
>OH MY GOD, COW IS TEACHING, HOW CAN THIS BE?

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:35:56 2009 No.3687155
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Is 'Perfect Memento' really written by ZUN?

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yukari_Yakumo

I didn't think he'd have enough creativity to create a character with this much hax.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:37:56 2009 No.3687165 >>3687154 Oh great, looks like it's thread shitting time. Go away Arc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:37:56 2009 No.3687167 >>3687155 Don't underestimate ZUN, bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:38:56 2009 No.3687171 >>3687165 Do you honestly think that will work? Just ignore him, sheesh. The thread's fairly good for a POWERLEVELSLOL thread.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Nov 7 21:39:56 2009 No.3687172

>>3687155
>>3687167

>I didn't think he'd have enough creativity to create a character with this much hax.

Anything is possible when you're drunk.

In fact, I came up with my cool, fascinating stories about the Lunarian Navy by getting shitfaced and watching cars drive by on the highway. I imagined SPACE BATTLES and all kinds of other weird things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:39:56 2009 No.3687174 >>3687155 yup. He's been throwing around powerlevels and sci-fi terms since forever.

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shadowbringer Sat Nov 7 21:42:56 2009 No.3687186

>>3687000
There's also Mokou, who pushed Iwakasa to his death ( http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Cage_in_Lunatic_Runagate:_Chapter_4 )
"Before I realized what I was doing, I pushed Iwakasa as hard as I could down a sudden decline in the path. Then I took the jar and ran."

Eirin also gave (according to the Touhouverse) Urashima Taro the box that would instantly age him into an old man.

Murasa also sunk ships and made people drown.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:50:56 2009 No.3687246 >>3687066 Reisen's portraits in SWR are too faptastic. Reminds me of Irisu. But still, demure and faptastic.

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Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:55:56 2009 No.3687275

>>3687171
Looks like we made him mad, now he's Cirno spamming the thread. That mod in the /a/ sticky that's still up said to go to 4chan's IRC channel and ask a moderator to handle these imagedumpers. I'd contact a mod myself but I don't feel like registering a new nick.

Can someone else do it for me.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:56:56 2009 No.3687289 >>3687275 You think Arc spams Cirno? He has more class than that.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 21:59:56 2009 No.3687309 >>3687186 I said in Gensokyo. Mokou found Gensokyo years after that event And same with all those other examples

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 22:04:11 2009 No.3687351 BAKA BAKA

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Anonymous of Austria Sat Nov 7 22:11:56 2009 No.3687414

>Yukari could technically open up a border to the sun and have more nuclear power than Utsuho.

If Yukari were to open a portal to the sun, what do you think would happen? The sun melts the portal and the fancy ribbons attached to it faster than those portals connect.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 22:13:56 2009 No.3687431 Why does Yukari have a twilight fetish? She does that all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 22:13:56 2009 No.3687432 >>3687186 Isn't it also canon that Sakuya kills people to make cakes and tea for Flandre?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 22:16:56 2009 No.3687447 >>3687275 Wow, that actually worked. From now on let's start reporting the Cirno imagedumper. Thanks Anonymous-san for showing me the way.

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Anonymous Sat Nov 7 22:33:18 2009 No.3687566 [DELETED]

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>>3687447

Hate to break it to you kid, but it's just a janitor. I could keep spamming Cirno, but there's no need. I'll wait until later and spam a couple SWR threads.

Till later, tootles.

Anonymous Sat Nov 7 22:40:56 2009 No.3687618

>>3687566
<NegiSpringfield> it's a joke to me
<@ALTERNATIVE> you are a joke
<Rainbu> Hey Alternative, sorry to interupt, but did you ever ban that Cirno spammer? He's claiming it was just a janitor
<+WTSnacks> not a funny joke
<@ALTERNATIVE> I did ban him yes
<Rainbu> >>3687566
<NH4NO3> Because they think they're cool and edgy.
<kelpbed> a knee slapper

Nice try, looks like I finally found a weakness to your spam. Hence the reason why you tried to convince me it didn't work. You wanted me to believe it was just a passing janitor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 23:09:37 2009 No.3687758 >>3687618 >Rainbu is Vinux@Rizon-5EF62272.hsd1.ga.comcast.net * joined >03[14:56:01] * y4rgysd6u (Vinux@Rizon-5EF62272.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #bunbunmaru If it isn't the /b/oring raider himself!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 23:21:56 2009 No.3687812 >>3687758 Is that the time I pretended to be Anonymous Jones?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 23:23:37 2009 No.3687821 >>3687812 Yeah. You've done that like three times that I happened to be in the same channel as you, who knows how many more. I hope you don't have an obsession.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 23:27:56 2009 No.3687839 >>3687821 I only do it when you/Jones is there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 7 23:28:56 2009 No.3687842 >>3687431 Border of night and day. Also, she sleeps during the day.

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