/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

New Rance thread.

I started my free for all game earlier with my waifu (pic related) but its getting a little rough. Invading plus defending 2-4 invasions per turn is not working out for me too well. Would building barriers help out in this situation? Or should I just recruit every prisoner I get with a decent troop level?

[Anonymous No.]

And here I thought I was the only one who liked her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665274
You are the only one who likes her. I love her.

[Anonymous No.]

Best ending to a Rance game for me yet.
And yes I know turn 144. It was akill the monkey game so I could unlock Mori, One-Eyed, and clear a bunch of people while exploring every dungeon.

[Anonymous No.]

Waifu or husbando? That is the question.

I'm afraid the only time I did FFA was with Shimazu, and buying +3 troops/turn buildings in every country made it fairly easy (probably because the commanders were super strong) and I never even tried barriers.
The Takuga commanders are average so the troops buildings might not be such a safe bet. Probably a mix would be best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665301
Oh! The + troops thing is per turn? That almost makes me want to start over. I started by building hospitals to cut back on battle costs per turn, and then started building market places to make more money for battle costs, but I may change that in future territories.

Also, waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys aren't playing Rance properly if you have waifus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665313

Hahaha, fuck off.

You play it your way and we'll play it ours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665301

It can be both, that's why Ryouma is so great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665283
How? That Gunagan bastard was easy, but I afraid of Orochi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665313
If you like easy modo, use men.

If you are a hero of justice, use your waifus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665332
I had Kojika in my party and several characters not beyond Orochi's level (more like a lot) and still won. You just need proper strategy to win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665332
I just fought him, and he blasted away the last two characters standing with Mouri.
So final showdown was Mouri vs Orochi with 222 hp. One swing later and I win.
Team in order of squads (not order they fought against Orochi in.)
Aburako Dousan, Rance, Uesugi Kenshin, Natori, Uruza, Naoe Ai
Kuge Kiyoko, Leila, Mouri Teru, Kobayakwa Chinu, Kikkawa Kiku, Sanada Tourin
Kawanoe Mine, Mouri Motonari, Akashi Kazemaru, Maria, Magic, Suzume
Nogiku, Noir, Elina, Omachi, Rizna , Orime
Asakura Yoshikage, Tanegashima, Yuzuhara Yuzumi, Kentou Kanami, Hara Shouji, Tamagushi Fuuka (Dies)
Everyone was max level or close, Rance was 75. Magic, Kazemaru and Uruza were like 15-20 levels off cap each.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665343
Rance is too much hero of justice for any one woman. To marry as such a man would be a crime against all women, living and yet to be born.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665332
The Orochi isn't as difficult as it sounds.
I killed him after doing only 7 dungeons (actually 5 dungeons and 2 Ogre hunts). I had some strong commanders but a bunch of them were average or weak (I didn't have any Dokuganryuu characters, for example).
Rance was around level 50 and Kentarou was 47. Uruza was 73. Rest were all base +7.
It took me only two attempts, and only because the Orochi happened to use his kill-all attack when I had all my good characters up on my first try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665374
How can Rance be level 50 after doing 5 dungeons and 2 Ogre Hunts?

[Anonymous No.]

Can I beat Orochi with this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665383
He starts at 40 and those things add 7 levels. I got a bit of Pokkuru when I thought of releasing prisoners. He was probably 52 or so, I really don't remember or care enough to go back and check.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665384
You should be able to. That looks like a stronger group than the one I beat him with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665396
Pretty sure he starts higher than 40... But still, I didn't do any dungeons and Rance still reached level 56 for Honnouji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665410
Aha. Unlucky for you, I care enough to check permanently useful information like Rance's starting level.
It's 40.
The point is, the Orochi sounds like some super powerful godly being, but in the end he's quite doable with only token leveling efforts.

[Anonymous No.]

Orochi is only hard if he nukes all of your good characters. Though out your lowest levels first and he generally starts by killing all 6 in one go, then you have the other 24 to deal with him.

It's entirely possible, and Motonari is great since his attack ignores defense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665424
Actually, if you look at it from a regular point of view, Orochi IS the hardest boss in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuuka will die if I decide to fight Orochi, but what will happen if i decide not fight?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665498
You will not be able to clear either Fuuka nor Natori. Once you've not slapped her in the face with your dick, that is what will happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665498
Rance turns into a lolicon and you start the Flat-Chest King Rance route.

[Anonymous No.]

Goddamn, trying to get Shimazu to recruit Yoshikage is a bitch. I thought if I killed all the Commanders (they only have 3 now) they'd definitely recruit him. But all their recruiting are people like Ninja 55 and stuff. Not only that, Agireda doesn't know how to fight a battle. Seriously, who fights when they only have two thousand men? And their the one attacking. I think I'm better off reloading then taking Agireda's bullshit and letting Takuga and Mori recruit him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665499
I know, but... Oh well, I guess I have no choise. Sorry, Fuuka-chan. ;_;
By the way, is Rance able to fuck snakegirls? Fuuka said they will dissapear, but I want to believe he can. Tell me he can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665506
Kou-hime sex route where?

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, so I wanted to do Ran Route quickly but also wanted to grab the furry Rangers.
Everytime I fight them I either beat them and get horrible-foot-soldier-hime or get defeated while taking out the furry foot soldier but not capturing him.
Any suggestions? Should I turtle? Just ignore and go on?

[Anonymous No.]

Almost beaten orochi at first try! Congratulations, me.
> horrible-foot-soldier-hime
Oh you. She is very good at offence. I know she's a foot soldier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665608
Furry Rangers + Tokugawa >>>>>>>>>>>> Senhime

I know Senhime is ok on her own but seriously, Tokugawa is probably one of 5 best warriors in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665616
Tokugawa is a rat. No thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665621
How so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665608
Here is photographic evidence of her awesomeness.
A single attack, and an elite squad led by the 2nd strongest character in the game is defeated. Good stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665657
can't unsee Terus stick-legs

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665667
Well, ok, whatever.
Should I turtle Imagawa to fuck his daughter though while I get Okita and recruit the musketeers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665687
Turtle? All you have to do is use two purple commands and finish them off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665700
Oh right. Already done. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665616
You can't have sex with Tokugawa and rangers. That's why I don't hire him.

[insanezero !VUNofZD8jM No.]

>>3665657
I find that Senhime's usefulness is inversely proportional to the difficulty level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665616

I'm actually in the middle of tiering all the unique generals and Tokugawa isn't even in the top 10.

To be fair, I'm using their Free For All stats since stats in the normal game just change a lot and pretty much anyone CAN be top tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665756
Who else is in the 'absolutely broken' tier with Omachi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665771
Kenshin I'd dare say

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665774
Emperor Kenshin certainly fits the title. Her Improved Aura is almost ridiculously good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665771

I'm doing it by class since it's easier to compare before I list everyone together but right now I'd venture to say that the TOP of everyone goes something like

Omachi
Keikoku
Madou
Masakage
Kenshin

From there it drops a bit, but I'd say Yoshihisa, Tourin and Natori are all up there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665787
If you're going to include unusable uniques, Suzaku Ran is better than Omachi.
Either way, Ootomo Sourin belongs on the list!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665815

They aren't unusuable in Free for All though. You can use Keikoku and Madou both, and they're both really good.

And actually I forgot about Sourin. I have him listed as the #1 Musketeer but I overlooked him since I was just skimming the list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665839
That remeinds me in Free for All can you capture non-generics? I've only been able to capture the generics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665887
You can, but you have to destroy their house first, wait for them to be re-hired, and then capture them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665887

You can but it happens rarely, you pretty much have to get luck or have someone with light attack kill them, and still be a little lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665892
Ah, that makes sense. As I was taking out a lot Houses with people I want and they always disappear.

[Anonymous No.]

So after lots of tries, I finally fended off the Takeda blitz without anyone dying.

Now what do I do? I just wait a couple of turns and hope the Baba and the other two are re-hired?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665925

Yup, after you go through with the "assassination" of Shingen, you get to play the waiting game.

I screwed up when I did it and only left Houjou house alive and uh I finally got all four on turn 383, so it might take some time.

[Anonymous No.]

I lost Oda's tactician (Mitsuhide(?) died) is that bad? He always seems like horrible tier to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665966
He's terrible

[insanezero !VUNofZD8jM No.]

>>3665966
It's kinda bad, in the sense that you could've gotten some money of out firing his troops before giving him the boot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665246
pls stop spammin ur shitty board on www.mudkipstalk.com ( replace mudkips w/ anon ) were tirred fo ure constant fucken spam and ddos attack's also stop lying about AT ok now gtfo dumbos

[Anonymous No.]

If I attack Houjou too early, will it stop Takuga breaking off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666025
I wouldn't think so. In 2nd games you can buy the Houjou house bonus and start at war with them, and still get Takuga events normally.

[insanezero !VUNofZD8jM No.]

>>3666025
No.

Attacking Houjou will always enforce the Takuga events.

[Anonymous No.]

is there a list anywhere with how to get all of the CG scenes?

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>>3666054
I don't know, but they're generally not too hard to get.
I found all but 4 on my own, and 2 of those were for completing Road to Hell and Orochi Dungeon. Keep playing and ask if there's a specific one you can't find.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666054
Is there a list anywhere with how to get all of the objectives cleared?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666079
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:Objectives

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665940
Are there any indicators that they've been hired, or is it by sheer luck?

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>>3666106
>Are there any indicators that they've been hired, or is it by sheer luck?
Start reading what other countries do during their turns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666106
You notice how every time you end a turn, you see the actions of other countries?
They also mention WHO they hire(if they do, since they may increase troop size or dance around the fire)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666117
>dance around the fire
is small time It is snowing is superior

[Anonymous No.]

I always liked "Ninjas are secretly operating"

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666168

But... how can they be operating secretly if I know about it?

[Anonymous No.]

"They are thinking something big" was here.
Everyone else is a loser

[Anonymous No.]

Hannies are having fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666187

"Beating ogres around the country"

HOW YOU DO THAT WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE 2 COMMANDERS LEFT

dammit houjou

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666193
Can't beat this, nothing can beat the hannies from having fun.

[Anonymous No.]

Who should I give Rance's love?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666197
He does it by himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666297

Yourself. You deserve it, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666310
No I don't ;_;

No, seriously, who should I give it? I'd give it to Elina or Ran but it seems like a waste on them

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe a list of my commanders would help out?

Also, I'm doing Rance route for points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666333
>Ran Route
Fix'd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666333
Senhime.
She already has a cost of 5, so you can just up her stats and cap her cost to 9.
Keep raising her starts, level and troops till you are done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666354
Oh, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

I'm currently wondering if its possible to beat the game with only mikos. The thought of the demon army falling before Ashikaga Choushin, Akihime, Yukihime and various other Mikos is sort of entertaining. This would require an enormous ammount of stat boost books though I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of Mikos, should I get the Orochi Miko if I'm doing a Ran point run or just try to finish everything quick?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666476
Well, you CAN give her endgame points and you can conquer the Institute fast and she is a tremendous help.
Your call.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666428
Mikos and footsoldiers should be possible. Otherwise you will lose a unit every time enemy attacks. .

[Anonymous No.]

>>3665616
Rance, Kentarou, Dokuganryu, Kenshin, Lia.

I don't see Tokugawa Ieyasu on that list, and I'm certain there are other warrriors that are better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666494
Actually, If one miko has Outcall Miko, and you have Ashikaga Choushin in front, and you bring up his defense stats and HPs to god levels (9+defense boost), he'd be able to take a hit.

As long as you have Natori, you even have a decent chance of winning battles. You can boost your mikos' attack power and also have one or two focus on healing, as long as you have a high troop count you're fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666556
Kentarou is not good for troop battles.
You either have him solely for defending on an unrelated warrior attribute or for dungeons.
LEILA is not a warrior.
Rance must be beefed up to becoem good (while he uses eay resources nobody else does, without them he still sucks).
As for Warriors, the list would prolly be Kazuhisa, Masamune, Noir, Ieyasu, Motonari and of course, kenshin.
Rance can be great with little effort, Kentarou is the demon.

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>>3666556
> Kentarou
Is it joke? He good only at final battle, and only if you waste time to levelup him. Just give Masamune that +100 sword and he will become the bestest boss killer in game.
> Lia
Did you mean Leila? She's not warrior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666579
I rarely use warriors in troop battles other than kenshin or rance. Kentarou becomes at least equal to Rance if you give him Kentarou-kun slash and when he is the demon. And in dungeons demon kentarou is godmode.

Otherwise, you have to judge by potential because it is incredibly easy to beef up a single character. Bring someone to max level and 9 in every stat, give them the satisfaction bonus and attacks they can use...
And Rance > Kentarou > Kenshin/Masamune > everyone else. Just starting with high stats means very little, it's the special things like "attack ignores defense" or "enemies start with -1 action point" or "RANCE ATTACK". I wouldn't even include Masamune if he didn't have 6 actions and a freakishly high level.

... In troop battles I prefer monks and musketeers over warriors.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you recruit Aboroku Dousan? I've recruited the Mino Three and still have 5 NP. Am getting no events to recruit her.
It's still a first game though, does this affect her appearing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666622
She requires a satisfaction bonus.
She's worth every point.

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>>3666613
Kentarou being a demon is WORTHLESS is you try to buff up his stats. He requires too much effort. He is much more useful reducing his troops to 1 and giving him Kentarou-Kun slash (since it's a Sat bonus)
And higher stats do mean something, since you can use affection bonuses only for skills.
Except for Masamune, the rest have already good stats and skills so you can easily enhance them further.
Rance is the exception because of his Sat bonus enhancements, in-built Chaos and being mandatory (aka, you should make him useful).

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666623
Also you don't want to fuck with her dad:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=aburasumashi

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666623
Damnit, I just reloaded because I didn't think I could get her in the first game. That was a waste of several turns.

I wish to be oily

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666631
But are you prepared? Do you have your toads ready?
Can you handle her slippery youkai ward that lets her punch enemies without losing a single troop? Do you have a strong unit to combo with that has an attack that drains all AP but is awesome? Or will you simply punch Baba Shouen and remove his attack boost before he crushes someone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666651
It never stops once it starts to slide!

[Anonymous No.]

This thread lacks badly of Gahahahahahaha and Toooooooh

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666748
But what about getting drunk with Mouri and Kekekekekekeke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666754
I preffered that Nyahahahahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

Why are green haired girls such sluts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3666840
Sorry chinu, but Lia and Miri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>you

[Anonymous No.]

How good/bad is Okita Nozomi?

Can she be buffed or she just a nice girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667170

Above average dungeon fighter, awful general, you have to put in a lot of work to keep her from getting massacred on the field.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667170
Stats are mediocre(attack not even 6).
However, she has a cost of 0, so if you have books to get her attack to 7 and raise the others a bit, she can be decent filler.
Main purpose is to have some extra decent damage at dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

And by the way, how much do Kazumaru's stats increase after giving her the girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667216
Giving HIM the girl?
+2 on all stats, as long as they are =<6.
Aka, he can get up to 8.
+50 kills on every attack.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, should I construct the national smuthery and foot soldier schools and stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667274

I usually do the foot soldier one, at least when I have enough NP. if you start with bonus characters you probably wont build them since they eat up quite a lot of NP. Especially with the ninja and musket buildings the use is questionable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667274
If you have 6 or so footmen, building the place is not a bad idea if you can spare the NP early on.
Smithery is overkill, unless you get all 3 worthwhile musketeers and sacrifice 10 NP to get 10 of them for each unit each round.
Pointless for POINT runs, but if you want to strenthen troops a bit, why not?

[Anonymous No.]

I want a female Rance route. One that doesn't end in game over when Rance becomes a girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667282
Why is it pointless in POINT runs? I have like 20 NP to spare?

>>3667297
So do I. Why couldn't they make it like Miki's route where even if you beat the game you get a non-standard game over nor bonuses but you actually can play through it?

[Anonymous No.]

Also, how much does it take until I can go beat Xavier's ass in the Ran route?
I've been waiting for turns for Manmaru to ask to be released

[Anonymous No.]

They should've added a 200 point costing route where you get to play as Xavier.

[Anonymous No.]

For all the bitchy efforts of catching the ninja sister early and taking my time to get her to trusted before killing off the Mouri house, I was somewhat rewarded for my patience.

Sister sex GET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667322
Depends on triggers.Can happen pretty fast. Try seeing if there are purple events, and conquer some shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667324
I wanna a route in which I can be Aberuto or Kayblis

[Anonymous No.]

Also, should I recruit the mino three and then fire them or do they get better once I get Aboroku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667400
They do not.
Fire them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667351

That reminds me that I need to get the Mouri bonus in my current playthrough. I look forward to the foursome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667405
I do have to kill recruit and have them though, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667425
To get aboroku I mean

[Anonymous No.]

What is the hiring microscope good for? Should I use it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667544
The Unit Magnifier?

Says "All units troop size + 100"

I assume it increases the size of all your units by...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667556
Bzzt. Incorrect. Thanks for playing, have some rice.

The correct answer was: "Increases all troop's maximum size by 100."

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667563
And what does that do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667563
Damn! Worst part is, 25 was my second guess.

>>3667571
At this point, I imagine that helping you is more trouble than it's worth. It does exactly what it says.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667574
I mean, what is maximum size supposed to be. I've never hit maximum size and when I used it the limit for recruiting before the price shoots up didn't increase

[Anonymous No.]

Quick question /jp/, do i have to uncurse motonari first to get the mori family bonus, or is it fine if i don't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667578
You see that thing that says MAXIMUM SIZE on the troop increase screen? It may have something to do with that. Just a thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667579
well you need to uncurse him to recruit him so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667585
I may be blind but really I can't fucking see it (and this is from an old run I did before you bitch about the commanders)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667610
Click on a troop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667591
Well fuck. So I have to do that before I conquer mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667629
yea, and capture Kiku before conquering Mori too, if you want her H scene and SAT that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667610
No offense, but it's really simple. Those xxx/yyy numbers beside each unit is the current size / max size. You fight, people die, current size goes down, you replenish. Max size increases when you recruit, decreases when you dismiss.

All this would have gone much easier if you had just saved, used the item, and saw the effect for yourself, then reloaded if you didn't like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667643
Already did that, and took quite a few turns doing so, so when I captured her and raised her to trust I thought I could finally conquer mori. Now I have to fight takuga, mori, and shimazu at the same time. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667686

I find you can generally rush Takuga though. They only have that first fort before you go through the gate, the rest are all field battles. Plus there is nothing fancy in capturing them, just beat them and you get them all.

[Anonymous No.]

Any tips about how to defeat takeda's cavalry with ease? I'm having a hard time with them atm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667698

Hell, you can get the first fort with a battle permit unit, the final areas are all fields.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667700
Reload so their cavalry is in the front line.
Use your faster units(not necessarily best ones)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667700
With ease, no. But the longer you fight them, the worse it'll get, so bumrush the fuck out of them. Their big bads won't show up at al for a few turns, but after they do, they'll blitz you about every 5 turns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667645
Ok, let's get that shit rolling:
First of all, troops

Now I don't see what troops is supposed to be here. Upper limit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667700
well there's no easy trick to it, you'll just have to have a strong line up of commanders.

[Anonymous No.]

Now I use the damn magnifying stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667722
Jesus fucking christ. Just save, use the item, and see what changes. Can you possibly be any more helpless?

[Anonymous No.]

Whoop-the-whoop I see no changes

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667735
That's because units are soft capped at 500 and 1000 because that's where their costs change, idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667733
Well, ok Einstein, I posted all three pictures of what I've been doing for the last half an hour to see what it does and I'm not getting smarter out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667735
Give Komatsu 19 more troops to pass the 1000 troop pseudolimit and try again, champ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667740
Ok, compare troops.jpg with troops3.jpg?
Has the cost changed?
No it hasn't.
And no it hasn't on the 500 caps either

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667744
500 and 1000 aren't the real caps. Recruit a unit up to those and then you can recruit more. It just forces a stop there because A.) recruitment cost goes up at them and B.) NP cost goes up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667749
Thank you, finally an aswer.

Yeah, now I reloaded and saw that.

I'm early in the game and it's the first time I get the magnifying glass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667766
People were giving you the answer already. How have you never recruited any units to 500 or 1000 and not noticed this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667772
Not really. I tend to go for balanced teams (yeah I know it's bad that's why I'm trying the more common approach of a few overpowered commanders which I didn't know worked better)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667779
You should have noticed the first time that you recruited a unit up for permits. Or do you not use those either?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667798
I use them the moment they go 1000.

As I rushed with the permits I think I never got troops over 2000 (except panda guy).
Now I'm playing on harder difficulties

[Anonymous No.]

i fucking hate assassinate immunity when the entire enemy force seems to have it

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667857
They do not.
Very, very few have it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667735

There is a formula based on the unit type, the difficulty and the number of provinces you've conquered that gives you the max cap on your troop totals.

If the item is what I think it is, it allows that unit to increase it's max troop cap by 100, which for ninja units could be used to raise them to the point they can use permits early seeing as ninja often cap out pretty early before you get alot of terrain.

The easier the game, the lower the cap. I think for footsoldiers it works out at:

(4+provinces) * 100 * difficulty * 1.5

Normal difficulty is 0.5 modifier for max troop sizes, 1 star is 1.0 and 2 star is 2.0 and 5 star is 3.0

So when you start the game on 1 star, the cap for your footsoldiers is 750, you can recruit units who have more then the cap, but you won't be able to increase their numbers with anything but battle experience until you get more provinces.

Usually it doesn't come up on 1 star or more difficulties because frankly the game scales the enemy based on your current troop total and national power, you can keep fairly low until you have several provinces and raise some select units for permits when you have enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667870
don't suppose there's a list of people who have it so I know if my luck is just awful or not?

[Anonymous No.]

So, what's the best route/difficulty/tactic etc for doing a point-run?

I've got 10 points to mess with, Grab Elina+Permits? Get the third Fan early? Never tried for points before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667903
Grab Elina and permits, do the 13-turn 3rd fan guide, and start on a route.

[Anonymous No.]

FFFFFFFF Kiku just got seduced by the shimazu house. ;_;

This is starting to make me rage. I'm invading Takuga while fending off Mori and Shimazu, and constantly having to worry about my female commanders defecting, and at the same time waiting for the Takeda generals to show up.

Any solutions to Shimazu getting my female commanders? For some reason even the commanders in trust are defecting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667903
Get more points first would help a lot. If you have under 50, 1-star Ran is the best for points. 50-200 or so, 2-star Ran will get you more. Above that, 5-star Kill the Monkey's the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667903
1 star Ran with Elina and action fan. Get Ieyasu over Senhime for the several easy to clear tankui

[Anonymous No.]

Recruit some garbage females from the prison to give them other targets. Otherwise, just keep reloading until they pick someone you can afford to lose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667929
I'm doing that shit right now (speedrunning) but it was too much of a bother. I'm just using senhime against the nue to clear her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3667935

Doesn't really work, at least it didn't for me when I was doing my first Ran route and couldn't just blitz them. They'll target your unique units and generally ignore the generics, at least from my experience. I had 5 generics prepared to lose and they never got picked once out of about 50 reloads. Image related.

[Anonymous No.]

So, I'm doing a point rush and I'm at that point of Ran's route where nothing seems to be really going on.
Should I
a.) Conquer more territories (and on maxing out my commanders as I think I still have 4 slots left or so)
b.) Focus on maxing out existing commanders
c.) "Go see sick Soun" ad nauseum
d.) Dungeons, dungeons, dungeons

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668140
If you've got permits, go after Masamune for the point bonus. Otherwise, start grabbing/clearing units.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668143
Get them and a shit ton of cash to get the corresponding commanders to 1000.

I'll clear commanders then (and let them conquer masamune), thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668140

I just concentrated on clearing as many units as possible while picking up end-game points on each of them. If you still have time you could just rush Masamune (permits will pretty much have this done in 3 turns at the most) for an extra 10 points, assuming you can get lucky and kill off Masamune between his eye-drop spam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668152
>got them
fix'd

I mean, I got them as initial bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668140
I took my time and actually conquered the entire JAPAN during my one star Ran point run. Didn't rush masamune either, got all of the youkais since i didn't get their family bonus in my first play through. It paid off in the end though, since I got both 30000 troops and 300 women. Finished during turn 100 or so, but ended up with 128 points as I also had a shit ton of cleared generics with end game points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668130
In my last Ran route game they took Komatsu on the very first time. Good riddance I say, what a bitch to clear.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you get Soun on the Kill Monkey route since there's no fifth gourd to go down the dungeon after?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668365
You don't.

[Anonymous No.]

do you guys put end game points on every character you level up or do you use stuff like increase initial BR/guard or the expert skills?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668386
well fuck, why the hell am I even fighting Houjou then? damnation.

*reloads earlier save*

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668365
Kidnap Ran
Take over Houjou
Clear dungeon

[Anonymous No.]

So, what is the canon route?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668568
.... True History. Though, One Eyed and Orochi are also likely to be defeated.

[insanezero !VUNofZD8jM No.]

>>3668386
What?

You can still recruit Soun in Kill the Monkey. You just can't clear him.

[Anonymous No.]

sigh, skills. I can never decide what to take

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668568
True route, including killing Orochi, impregnating Yamamoto, and the Emperor Sword being found.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668776
I thought the Emperor Sword was found AFTER Rance left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668782
Well, yeah. My apologies for wording it to seem otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

Any Sengoku Rance doujins out there? Especially anything that expands on Ran's rape or Masamune's harem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668822
Yes, but none on those that I'm aware of.

[Anonymous No.]

Quick question /jp/, how do I get Kenshin? I've already broken through Mikoland, killed the messenger, and taken over all of Uesegi.

When does she join the team?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668762
None, they're all worthless (bar a couple like Shouting Charge if you're having trouble taking enough of the bar to win, or Assassinate). Use the affection bonuses on stats instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668837
Purple event in Sado. Labelled "Recruit: Kenshin".

Normal caveats of "must have >30 commanders/enough NP" apply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668841
<30 even, not >30.
Polite sage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668837

There should be an event on one of the Usegi territories that'll recruit her.

You'll pick up Nanoe as a beginning of turn event shortly after recruiting her, probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668841
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668847
I thought Nanoe was a second purple event?

[Anonymous No.]

Curses! I just noticed that you need Senhime to clear one of the Shimazu brothers and I took Ieyasu. oh well, there's still the other three and Masa

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668852

I think its that if you ignore the purple event she autojoins if the conditions are right, because I picked her up as a turn event on my Yamamoto route playthrough

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668865
Ah, I see. I've always just picked them both up as soon as they appear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668852
If there's no story events for the turn the game will usually pick a purple event and activate it instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>3668837
This cg made me fall in love with Kenshin

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