Touhou Gameplay Thread

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Touhou Gameplay Thread Anonymous Wed May 12 19:54:30 2021 No.34715203 [Reply] [Original]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1566410/Touhou_Kouryudou__Unconnected_Marketeers/

Anonymous Wed May 12 20:01:01 2021 No.34715246

Phantasmagoria of DICK Dream
Fuck Yumemi, I had her with half a heart and she went full spam mode and the alerts for her attacks kept freezing the screen. If Zun ever makes a new Phantasmagoria game I hope he cuts it out with the alerts freezing the whole game for a second. It throws off my dodging.

Anonymous Wed May 12 20:14:18 2021 No.34715359
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Now I never have to play the Extra as Mari again, thank God.
Good game this time around, I was glad to have so much fun with it after the slightly disappointing experience that was 17.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 20:19:38 2021 No.34715412 >>34715359 Cute chart

Anonymous Wed May 12 20:40:15 2021 No.34715631
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Bombing the shit out of DDC stages to schlorp all the [P]s turned out to be really helpful. Made it to Seija but then got filtered and wasted my last continues during midget fight. Vertical flip and giga hitbox are the most painful spellcards.
Also I fucking love smacking bitches with giant gohei.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 20:49:29 2021 No.34715718 File: 16 KB, 800x638, 1cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just barely took out Flandre last night with zero bombs or lives remaining. Found myself playing some more of LLS today, it's kind of relaxing.

Anonymous Wed May 12 21:28:50 2021 No.34716090

>>34715631
At that rate, you'll be fine with just a bit of practice.
Vertical flip is easy; same as the horizontal flip, you just have to keep up a mantra reminding yourself of the controls at every moment.
Shinmyoumaru can be fairly challenging, but with a good shot type and bomb like ReimuA, she's not too bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 21:35:48 2021 No.34716163 Can someone give me a rough idea of how much ressources you use in a IN Normal 1cc? Currently i'm at >Stage 1-2: Nothing >Stage 3: Several bombs, usually a life >Stage 4: Another life >Stage 5: 2-3 lives >Stage 6: 1cc dies

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 21:57:15 2021 No.34716378 >>34716163 It depends on what route I take. I lose more lives to Marisa than Reimu because FUCK star shaped bullets.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 21:59:46 2021 No.34716408 >>34715359 Why is your chart missing 15?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 22:23:13 2021 No.34716558 File: 632 KB, 1150x1397, 63186515_p7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34715718 That's a nice landmark. She was my first Ex boss! What will you be gunning for next?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 22:37:23 2021 No.34716660 >>34716558 I'm going to try doing them in order from here on out until I hit a roadblock (though I think I might like to save Hecatia for last) so I'm tackling Ran and Yukari next.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 22:37:53 2021 No.34716664 >>34716163 I really don't use resources until stage 6 in IN, maybe 2-3 bombs on stage 4 and 1 against tewi Getting better at sniping familiars helped a good deal

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 23:04:08 2021 No.34716833 File: 249 KB, 658x675, 1615980136344.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34715718 Congrats anon!

Anonymous Wed May 12 23:06:46 2021 No.34716862

>>34716163
Depends on the game.
For SA on Normal, I went the first three stages without misses and bombs, then used only two or three bombs on stage 4. On DDC I can also go the first three stages without misses and bombs, but I need to bomb skip the fuck out of stage 4. Stage 4 in that game is brutal compared to stage 4 on SA. I did a NNB on EoSD a few days ago and I only had three misses the entire game

Anonymous Wed May 12 23:09:51 2021 No.34716888

>>34716163
>>34716862
Oh fuck me, you were talking about IN specifically, I thought you meant all games. Anyways, I only have one IN Normal 1CC, it went something like this
>stage 1 and 2, no miss no bomb
>stage 3, no miss, two or three bombs
>stage 4 and 5, two or three misses and a shit ton of bombs
>stage 6, I think I had one life left

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 23:13:24 2021 No.34716916 >>34716163 For the latest terrible rusty 1cc I got: 0/0, 0/0, 1/0, 6/1, 8/2, 5/2. That was as Yukari solo, fwiw. >>34716408 There was a Touhou 15?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 23:39:23 2021 No.34717051 I thought a controller would be better, but it's just painful in PCB

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 00:38:36 2021 No.34717403 Huh. I was told I could game the system and start with 3 cards by 1ccing Easy. I did, and I can still only start with two cards. Is the three cards thing just for Extra?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 00:45:44 2021 No.34717441 File: 1.60 MB, 960x720, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34717403 You should be able to. Did you get Chimata's card at the end of stage 5 and 1cc in the same run?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 01:58:30 2021 No.34717915 >>34717441 Ohhh shit, I need Chimata’s card for it to work? Alright then.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 02:02:56 2021 No.34717949 >>34717915 Yes, essentially, you need to clear the game twice. Once to unlock the card and second slot, twice to unlock the third slot and achievement as boasting rights.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 02:20:03 2021 No.34718071 >>34717915 >>34717949 Yep, having Chimata’s card did it. This (and also learning what Sannyo’s card does and unlocking it) should make those 1ccs much easier.

Anonymous Thu May 13 03:04:27 2021 No.34718396

I dont know if I’m doing it wrong or if people oversold the Byakuren+Remilia combo. The time between spellcards is so short that in order to bite them and live it seems like I can take out like a third of their health at most, which is good but not the gamebreaker it’s been getting hyped up as.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 03:07:12 2021 No.34718427 File: 319 KB, 1192x638, Touhou 1CC chart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post charts. How are you doing on progress?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 03:49:48 2021 No.34718819 File: 19 KB, 800x638, 1cc chart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34718427 I have a habit of trying to clear a game with all shot types before moving on to whatever one piques my interest next. Got bored with WBaWC and frustrated with IN.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 04:17:47 2021 No.34719050 File: 14 KB, 800x474, 1cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34718427 Still struggling with Sakuya in UM

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 04:19:53 2021 No.34719071 >>34715718 >>34716558 I still have no idea how Maze of Love works. Someone please explain to me

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 04:27:19 2021 No.34719117 File: 16 KB, 800x639, filled1ccchart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34718427 currently working on DDC

Anonymous Thu May 13 04:31:58 2021 No.34719151
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>>34718427
Considering I've played these games on and off for like 13 years, my progress is pretty fucking bad.

>>34719071
I've cleared her extra twice and that was the one spell I literally never captured on any attempt.

If you're Marisa you just have to follow the gaps in the circles and not run into shit, that's how every guide and video seems to do it. If you're Reimu then you can do the same thing or try to abuse a few very small gaps near the bottom. I definitely consider it Flandre's hardest spell.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 04:50:45 2021 No.34719275 I fucking suck at this game. What are the most rigged card combinations and why do they work?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 05:03:02 2021 No.34719348 File: 685 KB, 1400x1400, 182277677_387881812277004_1641604018290166059_n.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34719275 almost feels like cheating

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 05:03:35 2021 No.34719355 >>34719117 Why have you been avoiding DDC? Also, congrats on all those fightan 1CCs. I don't have the patience for those games

Anonymous Thu May 13 05:31:31 2021 No.34719553

So is imperishable night easy because of the resources? My first 1cc is mof and I would say it's because of the easy patterns but I feel like IN is harder on the patterns by a large margin. I went for a 1cc yesterday and got to the last spell before I died. I bombed and missed a shitton of times but I kept getting random lives in stage 6 idk how. It's like you can just bomb skip most of the game lol

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 05:31:34 2021 No.34719554 >>34719355 Seija denies my 1cc

Anonymous Thu May 13 05:53:09 2021 No.34719712

>>34719554
I'll give you a tip for the second spell card, don't press up or down, the card can be dodged by moving only left and right. However, if I am not mistaken, the card is RNG based so you can't route it. I can post a webm if you want. Maybe that will help. I typically bomb skip the first, third, last spell card. The nons are easy enough that I can get by them without needing bombs

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 07:47:48 2021 No.34720999 >>34719553 Every game is easy if you know how to get resources

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 09:13:26 2021 No.34722466 File: 19 KB, 800x638, 1CC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34718427 I started like two months ago, currently working on a lunatic 1cc with Mima in MS.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 09:18:28 2021 No.34722538 File: 55 KB, 593x890, progress.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34718427 UM aside, pretty much unchanged since WBaWC came out. I'll get around to a no active LNB one of these days.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 09:21:12 2021 No.34722571 File: 9 KB, 800x639, 1cc_2021.05.13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34718427 UM is fun, I've been considering doing a no bomb tanuki card run with Reimu after getting all achievements.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 09:32:43 2021 No.34722758 >>34722538 >All those Extra NMNBs >PCB LNNN and HSiFS LNNN this chart is giving me a boner

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 09:34:41 2021 No.34722798 >>34722571 >Lunatic NMNB on UM Was that with or without cards?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 09:37:56 2021 No.34722850 >>34722798 With cards, without cards I would have put NNN there. Some of these were no actives but I don't think it matters.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 09:38:40 2021 No.34722861 >>34722758 Those are extras. I don't have a single LNN(N) and don't have the time or patience anymore to grind for one, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 09:41:47 2021 No.34722895 >>34722861 >don't have the time or patience anymore to grind for one This just makes me more motivated to do an LNN, even if I still kinda suck at the games

Anonymous Thu May 13 12:46:07 2021 No.34725455

>>34719071
>>34719151
>try to abuse a few very small gaps near the bottom
That's an absolute madman strat, and I'm pretty sure it's harder to pull off than simply doing the card as intended.
The card is static and also perfectly straightforward; you just follow the gaps in the rice bullets around in a circle, alternating counter- then clockwise, resetting to the bottom between waves. Though it might seem scary, it's actually better to stay relatively close to Flan, since you'll be able to make smaller, slower movements, which reduces your chances of slamming into bullets while trying to keep up with the gaps. It can take a bit of practice to find the exact right distance and movement pattern to not get clipped, but once you're used to it, it's a pretty reliable cap.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 13:10:19 2021 No.34725809 File: 19 KB, 800x639, 1CC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sakuya's dual bomb in DDC is completely and utterly busted.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 13:16:16 2021 No.34725891 Is there a consensus on which simple shot upgrade has the best damage output? Subjectively Principle of Doggy Dog > Mini-Hakkero > Yin-Yang Needles, is that right?

Anonymous Thu May 13 13:35:42 2021 No.34726185

>>34725455
You can combine both strats. In fact it's easier than using either one on its own. Go around her once and by the time the second wave starts go slowly to the bottom while shooting at her directly. Reimu B can capture the card before she even has to go through any of the tiny gaps if she's at max power, but you need to make sure you get as much damage as you can during the first part, otherwise you may need a tiny bit of micrododging. Dunno about Marisa though because I literally never use her.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 14:52:13 2021 No.34727047 File: 26 KB, 490x270, ttimes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34725891 Tested with Mike's last spell card at full power

Anonymous Thu May 13 15:01:55 2021 No.34727153

>>34727047
So wolf and both Marisa’s cards are best for damage output. Although alice doll + snake could potentially replace the Marisa cards if you want to substitute a bit of damage for homing shots. I’m surprised they’re in the midhigh power levels considering they track.

Good stuff to know.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 15:45:21 2021 No.34727578 >>34727047 what about the Suwako card it's probably my favourite card for the Extra Stage because of how clustered enemies are

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 15:56:20 2021 No.34727666 Why do I have good runs when I don't give a shit I'm worse when I actually try and that's absurd

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 16:07:43 2021 No.34727762 File: 2.13 MB, 1143x1331, huh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34727578 9.24s on average

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 16:58:01 2021 No.34728106 >>34727762 Pretty decent, good to know. Feels good to watch fairies burst apart with the explosions.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 17:00:18 2021 No.34728125 >>34727666 You don't have expectations when you don't try, so you play looser and experiment more. At least that's what happens to me.

Anonymous Thu May 13 17:04:30 2021 No.34728156
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>>34718427
I got my UM lunatic 1cc so I'm ready to take another mini-break from the series.
Gonna continue with MoF 1ccs and LoLK 1cc + LNB when I get back.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 17:30:53 2021 No.34728325 File: 528 KB, 1027x1091, 1261683_wt128_marisa-kirisame-zun.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34722466 >Lunatic 1CC in 2 months You're already better than I am after playing for a bit over a year. Keep it up!

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 17:32:57 2021 No.34728345 >>34727762 Neat, didn't realize the splash damage did a little extra damage(?)

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 17:33:22 2021 No.34728347 >>34728156 If you liked Elegant Impermanence of Sakura, the same creators have another fangame coming out in like a week. Also, cute chart. Enjoy your break!

Anonymous Thu May 13 17:44:09 2021 No.34728455
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>>34725455
>That's an absolute madman strat, and I'm pretty sure it's harder to pull off than simply doing the card as intended.
it's not that difficult to pull off since the spellcard is static and you can do it in less than 10 taps, but I wouldn't recommend it to those still not fully comfortable with eosd's lack of visible player hitbox.
plus it's more fun to solve MoL the proper way the first few times around. really only recommended if you've done eosd extra so much by now and you become sick of doing that spellcard and want to get it done ASAP.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 18:26:37 2021 No.34728837 Fuck off Misumaru, why are you even being such a pain when I don't even want to go past you?

Anonymous Thu May 13 19:11:15 2021 No.34729351
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>>34718427
Didn't want to make one until I completed LoLK and the subsequent games, but honestly who knows how long till I have the motivation to practice it so I guess I'll just do it now

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 21:22:32 2021 No.34730548 File: 150 KB, 1216x726, rip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34728325 Thanks anon, I had another failed run today but I'm getting there. It's gonna be kinda sad moving to EoSD after this, I think Reimu is cuter with purple hair.

Anonymous Thu May 13 21:35:55 2021 No.34730672

Two questions

1 Does the backdoor have a limit or a recharge or something? I was using it as a shield and then I could've sworn a few shots passed through and killed me.

2 This is the bigger question, how the fuck am I supposed to use vampire bite to drain spell cards? Any time I try it I just get killed point blank barely after putting the attack out. This is apparently the most overpowered card so I’d like to stop being a retard with it.

Anonymous Thu May 13 23:14:23 2021 No.34731523

>>34730672
1. Pretty sure it doesn't, there's some space between the character's hitbox and the back door so probably a bullet coming from the corners hit you.
2. When you activate that card an animation should start where it is charging the dagger/fang, you are neither invincible nor dealing any damage at that moment. When the dagger/fang appears in front of you, you will deal an insane amount of damage for a short time, it also can erase any bullets it touches so you may even use it as a shield. Use the stage practice if you need to get the timing right.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 00:27:07 2021 No.34732152 >>34731523 >Use the stage practice if you need to get the timing right Duh, obvious in retrospect. Thanks for the tips.

Anonymous Fri May 14 00:48:30 2021 No.34732352

>>34730672
The Vampire Fang does a lot of damage, but it's not a free win. You have to sit a small distance in front of the boss for the short duration of the attack. Since the Fang clears bullets, the boss will not have a direct line-of-sight to hit you, but there are plenty of attacks that fill the area close to the boss with bullets that do not travel directly from the boss, and these can hit you from the side.
On the other hand, the majority of spells are fairly free to hit with the Fang, since they have long enough openings at the start of the spell card for you to sneak in your attack; you gotta use your game knowledge here to figure out which attacks to rush up to the boss at. Learning the timing of course also helps, since it lets you retreat as soon as the Fang ends, but it'd only really be helpful for spells with tight timing windows, and you might wanna do those legit anyway, since it'd be risky to Fang them.

Also, you can fang during bombs. I'm not sure if the damage to the boss is reduced during bombs, but it's something to consider.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 02:13:40 2021 No.34733070 File: 27 KB, 456x792, 1cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34718427 Currently waiting for UM's translation.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 03:41:20 2021 No.34733646 I can't 1cc Ten Desires. Why am I so noob?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 03:51:28 2021 No.34733705 how the FUCK do you capture Dragon Eater without homing shots?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 03:54:09 2021 No.34733726 >>34733705 use cards or get used to misdirecting it for way longer than you normally would.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 04:13:06 2021 No.34733814 File: 226 KB, 298x331, OP combo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This melted enemy spellcards and got me a 1cc I can only imagine how strong it'd be if I got more equipment pulls and wasn't stuck with just Shanghai and Marisa's shots.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 04:36:29 2021 No.34733951 File: 338 KB, 800x638, 1CC Chart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34718427 Finished 1CCing MoF on normal with all types (again) today. Still working on SoEW extra mode but I don't even know if I can do it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 06:29:26 2021 No.34734922 >>34733070 I think a translation is out now. >>34733646 You'll get it soon! TD is a game that punishes greed; don't move up to the top of the screen when it isn't safe to do so.

Anonymous Fri May 14 06:55:23 2021 No.34735115

>>34734922
>TD is a game that punishes greed; don't move up to the top of the screen when it isn't safe to do so.
That's probably it. The bosses are piss easy and most of my lives lost have been to stage bullshit.
I just wanna grab the pink spirits before they disappear...

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 07:50:56 2021 No.34735693 >>34735115 Spirits are worth more if collected in trance mode. Press C with full gauge to collect pink spirits more easily

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 08:56:42 2021 No.34736676 >want to continue putting a few more clears on my chart and going to clear some other games i had pending >cant because i've been mentally cockblocked trying to 1ALL Raiden1 for like 3 months send help

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 12:19:39 2021 No.34739908 >>34733951 >but I don't even know if I can do it What are you having trouble with?

Anonymous Fri May 14 13:05:57 2021 No.34740555

>>34739908
If I'm Reimu C, I think my biggest issue is reacting to the lasers during the red and purple ball section fast enough, dodging the red and purple balls during the second part of the pattern when they're flying everywhere, and the stage overall. If I'm Reimu A, the stage is basically free but the boss fight goes on forever. I've gotten up to the homing explosion part of Rika's pattern once and I have no idea if that's the last segment.

Anonymous Fri May 14 13:28:16 2021 No.34740876
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>>34740555
The lasers are too fast to react to, or rather, if you try to react you'll bump into an orb, so ideally you should be shooting at her face for no longer than 3 seconds, and then move through the gaps of the red/purple orbs to the edge of the screen, go back and repeat. It's easier said than done, so bomb spamming is also an option, after all, personally I think the battle gets easier after that phase. It's kinda hard to explain, but there's a safespot when the orbs fly everywhere, check pic related. You're almost at the end of the battle though, it's mostly homing explosions, but nothing you can't react to if you slowly move from side to side, or up and down. Just to save you some trouble, Rika does a suicide attack when you kill her, so if she starts blinking move away immediately.
Remember that mashing Z will boost your fire rate.

Anonymous Fri May 14 17:32:18 2021 No.34743589

Okina Extra is Clipdeath: The Boss. I've wasted so many runs dying multiple times to shit that I see, and dodge, and yet still somehow hits. So frustrating. If it weren't for this shit, I know I have the stage optimized well enough to get through her fight.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 19:29:57 2021 No.34744850 >>34735693 >Spirits are worth more if collected in trance mode. Really? I've been using trance mode wrong this whole time...

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 19:42:18 2021 No.34745008 >>34743589 I haven't done that extra but touhou in general does tend to have a handful of bullshit hitboxes in each game, so that's not surprising.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 19:56:28 2021 No.34745127 >>34744850 That depends. Especially since the amount of pieces required increases with each extend, it can sometimes be worth saving Trance for skipping a troublesome attack rather than using it to get an extra life piece or two.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 20:55:29 2021 No.34745710 >>34743589 The complaining on /jp/ tactic worked, got it a couple tries later with lives to spare.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:08:55 2021 No.34746462 File: 558 KB, 640x480, PCB Extra No Miss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yay.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:11:41 2021 No.34746481 File: 70 KB, 720x534, ran_spin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34746462 Congratulations!

Anonymous Fri May 14 22:38:39 2021 No.34746743
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask.
I've been looking for a download of Touhou Pocket Wars second for the past hour. Does anyone have a good place to point me to?
also heres a 1cc i got a while ago

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 23:19:36 2021 No.34747072 File: 2.03 MB, 1278x960, almost.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I did it! Almost choked but I beat the centipede, Dragon Eater fucked me up hard.

Anonymous Fri May 14 23:40:20 2021 No.34747309
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Finally went back and re-did all my Okina Extra clears without the survival bug. Took a while to get the rust off, but it wasn't too bad. Especially because, wow, the stage and midboss are easy. Refreshingly so after the gauntlet that was Momoyo's stage.

>>34747072
Nice work, especially considering those low-cheese cards.

Anonymous Fri May 14 23:50:00 2021 No.34747411
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Best way to get into Lunatic without becoming insane? I've only recently started playing and have gotten a few 1ccs, but I'm interested in Lunatic because it looks fun as hell. Do I just practice or are there any tips I need to know?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 00:00:59 2021 No.34747513 >>34746743 Moriya Shrine is always the go-to place. https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/237-touhou-pocket-wars-2nd/

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 00:04:38 2021 No.34747549 >>34747513 Man, I feel dumb. For some reason I wasn't able to find it there. Thanks, anon.

Anonymous Sat May 15 00:09:12 2021 No.34747590

>>34747411
It depends on the game, but one of the most important things is figuring out optimal ways to gather resources. What I do is practice blind for a while, see how far I can go without using a continue, then study possible exploits or sweetspots on other people's videos. As long as you know what to expect and have enough resources you should be able to do it with a few days of practice, but keep in mind that taking a break is also important, there's nothing to gain if you end up playing frustrated.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 01:28:33 2021 No.34748469 File: 36 KB, 600x500, 1609566867721.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34747590 I'll try my best and practice then, blindly of course. I just want to get my first Lunatic 1cc, and PCB is my favorite so far so that's my go-to.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 02:15:32 2021 No.34748862 Fuck the fourth key it keeps fucking me up when I try to bomb, or I bomb when I want to use a card. I'm finally switching to controller just so I don't have to deal with this shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 02:24:22 2021 No.34748926 >>34748862 >I'm finally switching to controller just so I don't have to deal with this shit. Just practice. It takes getting used to. Pinky to shift, ring finger to Z, middle to X and D, index to C.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 02:32:00 2021 No.34748969 >>34748926 I have a decade of muscle memory dictating which three fingers to use for which three things. My pinky finger can go fuck itself, I'm using a controller for this one.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 02:33:13 2021 No.34748975 >>34748969 Have fun micrododging then. Remember to tilt your screen.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 02:39:35 2021 No.34749012 >>34748862 I recommend a USB Sega Saturn controller, the d-pad is well-suited for shmups. I've have better results using it than a keyboard myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 06:59:27 2021 No.34751412 File: 18 KB, 769x600, 1558532200248.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34718427 doing fine. although I've lost patience/desire to grind out some more extra/hard/lunatic runs. just came back to 1cc normal/extra um

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 14:39:00 2021 No.34758322 >>34751412 Nice anon!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 15:47:13 2021 No.34759080 File: 39 KB, 800x650, 1619318994740.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like DDC Reimu A but her bomb SUCKS.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 16:01:56 2021 No.34759217 >>34759080 Like the bombs in 10, it punishes you for cowering at the bottom of the screen, and rewards you for proactively moving up and using it right in front of the boss. Be bold. Or just use needles, the thinking man's shot type.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 16:49:32 2021 No.34759668 File: 354 KB, 803x500, 1621111772763.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] reimu is so cute in the PC98 games

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 17:14:23 2021 No.34759967 >>34759668 My favorite LLS ending is the one where Marisa and Reimu put on their best clothes and hang out.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 17:31:11 2021 No.34760167 >>34715359 >Clearing PCB extras with all shot types Based

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 18:01:27 2021 No.34760469 >>34715631 same here

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 21:17:54 2021 No.34762990 File: 5 KB, 585x99, 2000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Come on

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 01:26:59 2021 No.34766527 Story of STINKY POOPOO Wonderland.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 02:08:51 2021 No.34766829 >>34766527 Nevermind I just beat it

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 02:15:47 2021 No.34766876 >>34766829 Now unlock and try the extra stage so you can call it poopoo again

Anonymous Sun May 16 02:58:59 2021 No.34767197

I know translation is pretty much done, but is there a mod/patch that I can apply to the game?

First time I’ve bought a touhou on steam and I’d prefer to apply the patch myself than download a prepatched version. I want to keep my records and unlocked cards and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 03:10:41 2021 No.34767288 >>34766876 Just beat it again with Reimu B Can't wait to say bad words about this game again

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 03:11:50 2021 No.34767298 >>34767197 https://www.thpatch.net/wiki/Touhou_Patch_Center:Standalone_Patches Check this in a week or so, this is how I patch my games too because I don't trust automatic updating third party software.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 06:57:50 2021 No.34768969 >>34767197 Beginning with Ten Desires your save files are no longer located in game folder so you don't need to worry about them.

Anonymous Sun May 16 07:35:57 2021 No.34769338

Does anybody else think DDC is one of the easier games to clear on Hard? I'm trying to clear more games on Hard and I keep fucking on stage 1 or 2 and my autism doesn't like dying or using bombs on the first two stages. DDC on the other hand I can get past the first two stages without a problem for the most part, but maybe it's because I used SakuyaA to clear it

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 07:42:43 2021 No.34769426 >>34751412 Put Byakuren next to the UFO box and put Mamizou on top of the TD box even if you need to make room for it >has PoDD >has no PoFV Why?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 11:07:59 2021 No.34772120 >>34768969 Where are they located?

Anonymous Sun May 16 12:47:21 2021 No.34773509

>>34769338
I cleared it on Hard with SakuyaA without even trying. At the time, I was so fed up with failing on Normal with SakuyaB that as a change of pace I just jumped into Hard like, "might as well die to something different this time", then cleared it easily.
It is partly because SakuyaA is busted, I think, but also because bombing all the time is actually a decent strategy in that game, so you naturally get fewer deaths early on and don't lose hoarded bombs so much.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 12:51:45 2021 No.34773581 >>34772120 C:\Users\(User)\AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 13:51:37 2021 No.34774357 >>34773581 Thanks, I wish I had known that much earlier

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 14:29:35 2021 No.34774845 I'm not sure where else to ask, but has Touhou Wiki been different for a week or so for anybody else? It's like a bunch of the formatting got messed up.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 15:14:16 2021 No.34775482 I'm a retard, how do you choose between FinalA and FinalB in IN? I got the text that says "Final Selectable" but how do I choose the route?

Anonymous Sun May 16 15:22:39 2021 No.34775574

What's the proper technique for Saki's "Oni-Shaped Hoi Polloi"? I tried to practice it, but haven't been able to last beyond about 30 seconds on the timer. I've tried shooting down all the ghosts, half per wave, only one or two per wave, and none at all, but no matter what, it just gets way too dense. Am I missing something?
Also what the fuck is up with Muscle Explosion, fuck that card.

>>34774845
Looks fine to me, did you get stuck in the mobile view somehow?

>>34775482
You'll get the choice after clearing stage 5.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 15:22:55 2021 No.34775579 >>34775482 If you've only cleared A and haven't used a continue it'll send you to B automatically after stage 5. If you've beaten both routes with a character you'll be able to select the route if you didn't use a continue.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 15:25:56 2021 No.34775616 >>34775574 >You'll get the choice after clearing stage 5 Oh, assumed you would get the choice on the character selection screen. Thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 15:26:36 2021 No.34775623 >>34775574 the gist is shooting down spirits until the rings they retaliate with get too dense for comfort, then deal with whats left for the central explosion. you have to judge when to stop on the fly or snuck in otter hypers lol

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 15:30:29 2021 No.34775663 >>34775574 >Looks fine to me, did you get stuck in the mobile view somehow? That was it, thanks anon. I didn't even realize there was a mobile view, I must've accidentally pressed it at some point.

Anonymous Sun May 16 20:07:43 2021 No.34778467
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Beat Ran as SakuyaA and unlocked the Phantasm stage by capturing cards on Hard and Easy mode. Made it about 2/3 of the way into Yukari's fight but that manji spell card really fucked me over, gotta get better at that one.

Anonymous Sun May 16 21:04:25 2021 No.34779027
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Fuck headless bitch and her flashy effects on curved beams.
Fuck spastic bouncing furry slut.
Fuck Benben and her curved lasers.
Fuck Seija and her shitty gimmicks.
Fuck Shinmyoumaru and manlets in general.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 22:47:47 2021 No.34780178 had no idea green ufos gave full spellcards game changer forreal

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 00:28:54 2021 No.34781049 File: 452 KB, 640x480, fuck yuyuko.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I AM NEVER PLAYING SHITTY CHERRY STINKY DOODOO BLOSSOM AGAIN MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHERFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKER

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 00:40:25 2021 No.34781135 File: 259 KB, 1280x1226, 2e48e3ee19c508a05daa9c67e4835257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34779027 Also fuck never ending slog that is Stage 5, fuck upwards flying bullets, fuck Seija again and fuck Seija once more but this time sideways.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 02:27:10 2021 No.34782008 Unconnected Marketeers is really growing on me. Didn't get much chance to play it earlier, but I dug into it this weekend, cleared the extra, had a great time. Might be my favorite game since 11.

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 04:13:05 2021 No.34782864 >>34782775 Still want to stick my dick in Yuyuko tho

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 04:16:38 2021 No.34782903 I was going to practice PCB yesterday. That never happened.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 04:18:15 2021 No.34782918 >>34781049 I understand your pain. I can’t begin to guess the number of times I’ve lost a run due to that fucking tree. One of the easier patterns in the game but I still end up choking.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 04:28:48 2021 No.34783001 >>34782918 It's like the PC-98 games. Simple patterns that come at you fast.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 04:47:08 2021 No.34783173 File: 1.06 MB, 1280x960, th17_004.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Everything in this god damn game is red. That's 3 Reimu and 1 Mari down, 2 Mari and (heaven forbid) 3 Youmu to go.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 08:38:14 2021 No.34785622 >>34775574 >Muscle Explosion That's an easy spellcard, just evade the bullets

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 13:51:54 2021 No.34790279 My UM save file got all fucked up out of nowhere, are there any known bugs involving saves or wtf happened?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 13:54:23 2021 No.34790323 >>34790279 Huh? Did you use any patch (translation)?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 14:04:49 2021 No.34790490 >>34790323 No, I didn't mess with the game's files at all, it's the exact same as when I first downloaded it

Anonymous Mon May 17 14:09:24 2021 No.34790561

>>34790279
The Wiki doesn't have any info. Just anecdotally, I know one person who claims that he unlocked and played the Extra, but next time he launched the game, it was locked again, for no apparent reason. Can't tell you any more than that, but if it's happened to at least two people, maybe there is a real bug.

Anonymous Mon May 17 14:24:24 2021 No.34790786
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Does someone has something like a chart comparing difficulty of normal in different games? For me EOSD, IN and MOF all seems easy, while PCB and fucking SA are hard as balls. 1cc IN and MOF, STILL CANT PASS STAGE 4 IN SA. I lose all my lives by the time I get to it. Also fuck Youmu, her non-gimmick attacks are just bullshit.

Anonymous Mon May 17 14:53:14 2021 No.34791217

>>34790786
No, because it is almost entirely subjective. Different people are good at different things.
Not sure what you're having trouble with in 7, but stage 4 is just nonstop streaming and basically trivial if you memorize enemy spawns. Several of Youmu's patterns can be misdirected.
11 doesn't really get hard until stage 5, but without knowing any specific part you're getting stuck on, I can't help any more than suggesting that you watch some replays. Several spell cards become unnecessarily difficult if you don't know the right way to do them.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 14:58:32 2021 No.34791290 >>34790786 Anything below LNB level is barely worth comparing SA normal mode is the hardest, UFO hard/lunatic is the hardest there, but beyond that it becomes very subjective to list every single game

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 15:09:58 2021 No.34791421 >>34790786 Here's a hint. Play as Reimu + Yukari and SA and you'll feel the difference. Her abilities are the best out of the all characters for sure.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 15:14:36 2021 No.34791485 >>34790786 If you're good at EoSD try playing the PC-98 games. EoSD has a lot of reused patterns from MS

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 16:27:35 2021 No.34792173 >>34791421 In SA I use Marisa+Pache. At first changing attack pattern seems hard, but I love having options. Red for boss, blue for spam and hard patterns. I will try Reimu + Yukari, but I doubt it will change much.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 17:00:31 2021 No.34792451 >playing LoLK Normal PD >stuck on Sagume's first nonspell which fucks my brain >give up and bomb through >238 retries What the fuck am I missing? Every video I watch that has commentary acts like it's no big deal

Anonymous Mon May 17 17:13:04 2021 No.34792562
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after playing since like october feels good to get all normal 1cc after 6 (minus 9), mightve missed a clear on this chart but ill catch it

used character colors for my friends, also what is with e1 and e2 on UM?

additionally, here to plug this: https://joec.moe/touhou/touhou.html

Anonymous Mon May 17 17:17:39 2021 No.34792594

>>34792562
probably refers to going for parallel ending (picking the blank card at the end of stage 5, efectively surviving the stage and fighting chimata cardless). imo its not that different from a normal run to justify having its own separate spaces

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 17:18:19 2021 No.34792598 >>34792594 o damn didnt even know that existed fuck

Anonymous Mon May 17 17:18:23 2021 No.34792600

>>34792562
>also what is with e1 and e2 on UM?
Think it's in order of what the in game achievements list them as (alternative ending first, then default)

E1: Clear Chimata with Chimata's card (pick up the blank rainbow card in the stage 5 shop)

E2: Clear Chimata without Chimata's card (default ending if you haven't beaten the game yet).

Anonymous Mon May 17 17:19:53 2021 No.34792613

>>34792594
>imo its not that different from a normal run to justify having its own separate spaces
Yes it is. Your whole card set up is completely eliminated for the final boss fight. This makes the final boss fight MUCH harder than the rest of the game if you've been cheesing combos.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 17:28:40 2021 No.34792697 >>34792613 just cheese the rest of the game and then u have a bajillion lives

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 17:30:42 2021 No.34792713 any tips for stage 4 boss? (th18) The difficulty level of this game is retarded for us touhou casual/beginner players. Also, is it possible to equip 2 cards from the start? i have only been able to equip one.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 17:32:21 2021 No.34792728 >>34792713 i can equip 2 maybe because i cleared already

Anonymous Mon May 17 17:42:47 2021 No.34792811
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>>34778467
I did it! I almost choked really hard near the end, lost my last life early on during the final spell card and I just froze up and bombed whenever the bullets charged at me.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 17:48:15 2021 No.34792866 >>34792713 Just bomb through stage 4. It's the hardest stage. You can equip an extra card after 1cc'ing, and a 3rd card after seeing an another ending iirc.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 19:20:31 2021 No.34793680 >>34792811 Grats! That finish must've felt clutch as fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 19:30:16 2021 No.34793760 >>34792713 You get an extra card for finishing the game, even with a bad ending. Just credit feed and then work on that 1cc, stage 4 is tough

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 19:41:39 2021 No.34793866 >>34793680 It did, I felt a chill down my spine when I died near the end. I'd like to go back and do it a bit more cleanly but I'm going to focus on doing the other extras first.

Anonymous Mon May 17 20:24:54 2021 No.34794250
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I can't believe I've been ignoring IN for so long. Can't wait to unlock the solo characters. Kaguya's theme has to be my favorite from this game. I've gotten somewhat use to Reisen now. I can comfortably capture her first spell card. I captured the third and fourth ones but only because I didn't have bombs in stock. Fuck the second one

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 20:32:14 2021 No.34794308 >>34790786 >STILL CANT PASS STAGE 4 IN SA no wonder you put SA on the same tier as PCB then hehe

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 21:56:10 2021 No.34795178 working on those extra clears

Anonymous Mon May 17 23:38:31 2021 No.34796107
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Made it to penis enlargement spellcard in DDC with Reimu A, I think it's the furthest I managed to get so far. Probably could've lasted a little longer if I didn't fail to catch 2 life pieces earlier. Had one bomb left but this hitbox fuckery is so janky that I rarely manage to react before getting hit.
Spent most of my attempts dying on Sekibanki's last spellcard and restarting. Sometimes I get lots of space to maneuver around, sometimes I get stuck in a tight gap between walls with only way out being right into laser. And fucking sparkles on the edges of the walls making it a gamble if I'll manage to squeeze between them or not.
Even without final gimmicks there's so much annoying and frustrating bullshit in this game.

Anonymous Tue May 18 00:07:05 2021 No.34796371

>>34796107
Sounds like you need to be more proactive. With bombing, with auto-collecting, with your movement during spell cards.
Dullahan Night should be no trouble at all. Look ahead for an area that's going to be safe and move there before she fires the lasers, then either stream them or (since I'm assuming you're on Normal) simply stay still and they'll go around you. If you do stream them, keep track of which side of the screen her head is on and which way it's moving, so that you can stream in the right direction rather than getting even more trapped. And if you end up in a bad spot, just bomb, it's really not a big deal in that game. Being one bomb down after stage 2 is barely worth noticing, certainly not worth resetting over.
You Grow Bigger will always be bullshit, but again you just have to proactively use bombs rather than risk trying to cap it when you have them in stock.

Anonymous Tue May 18 00:45:32 2021 No.34796738

>>34792713
As others have said, you can get a second card by finishing with continues. Does not have to be a 1cc.

You can then get a third card slot to start with if you do 1cc.

Note: Both the above can be done on Easy, but the rewards will be applied to every difficulty. So if you really want to cheese it, that’s an option.

Anonymous Tue May 18 01:45:08 2021 No.34797330
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>>34796371
>simply stay still and they'll go around you
Wait, what? Two lasers aren't actually one big projectile?? And I can squeeze between them??? And they'll just aim around me if I stay still????

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 02:14:03 2021 No.34797580 For the love of fuck, what do the goddamn cards do in TH18? This game is kicking my ass even on Normal for my 1cc.

Anonymous Tue May 18 02:19:03 2021 No.34797614

>>34797580
I ran Saki on my first run. I never used the mallet much.
On my second run, I used Fang/Shanghai+Saki
Third card was just Saki+Eiki+Yachie since I wanted to see if money effected the score.
If you're having trouble, speedkilling the bosses is probably your best bet. Other than that, it's really just memorizing the patterns.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 02:20:06 2021 No.34797620 >>34797614 oh yeah, higher damage > less score (?)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 02:36:12 2021 No.34797698 lunatic marisa without cards is like torture

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 02:55:04 2021 No.34797801 I just 1cc'd normal and didn't unlock a new card slot (third one)... Is there something specific you have to do?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 03:01:34 2021 No.34797842 >>34797801 You need Chimata's card at the end of Stage 5. The rainbow one.

Anonymous Tue May 18 03:49:16 2021 No.34798033

I suck at shmups so before I even attempt to 1cc this game, should I unlock the extra slots or does that invalidate the run? It seems like a lot of people are saying the combinations are broken and thus would make the game easier then it's meant to be.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 03:57:30 2021 No.34798074 >>34798033 Getting the 1cc endings is usually what counts, no matter the means.

Anonymous Tue May 18 04:16:01 2021 No.34798173

>>34798033
>Does [using intended game mechanics] invalidate the run?
Of course not. And what's "easier than it's meant to be"? The game was designed from the beginning with the card system in mind, and is balanced around it. ZUN even admits right there in the afterword that there are bound to be broken strong combinations. If anything, applying the restriction of not using the tools that the game gives you would be making it "harder than it's meant to be".

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 04:19:30 2021 No.34798194 >>34798033 That's like asking if ufos or trance mode invalidates a run.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 04:20:56 2021 No.34798201 >>34798194 UFO and Trance are available from the get go. The assumption is clearly "should I be 1cc'ing with 1 card (mallet)?" since everything else requires unlocking and isn't readily available.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 04:22:34 2021 No.34798209 >fight Megumu on normal >my decrepit reflexes die instantly to the lasers >fight Megumu on easy >the lasers appear so slowly and with enough space that a quadriplegic sloth with carpal tunnel could dodge them y-you too

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 04:26:50 2021 No.34798227 >>34798209 Nope, I love her colorful lasers. That light blue stars nonspell is pure pain tho.

Anonymous Tue May 18 05:05:53 2021 No.34798399

Despite how often I've seen people say that Dragon Eater is an anti-Marisa card, it sure feels to me that Sakuya gets fucked over by it even harder. I wish we could test ability cards in spell practice to see how much of a difference it would make in an actual run though

Anonymous Tue May 18 07:54:25 2021 No.34799594

Tried out Socially Distanced Entrepreneurs on normal. Hard seems doable once I learn the stages. Won't try lunatic, I'm getting rusty. And old. Holy shit, my hands hurt.

>>34792811
Congrats. Did you find Ran harder than Yukari too? It's like Yukari tells you where to go and what to dodge, but Ran just smacks you in the face with a bullet wall if you're not where she expects you to be.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 09:21:40 2021 No.34800705 >>34799594 Did you 1cc normal

Anonymous Tue May 18 09:38:13 2021 No.34800952
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>>34796107
Made it to penis enlargement again but this time a bit further, with 7 seconds left on timer. Lost a couple lives to Seija's last flip like a retard. I'm so tired of "you'd better just bomb this bullshit preemptively" attacks this game is filled with.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 09:40:00 2021 No.34800986 >>34800952 There isn't much of that in DDC though, you just have to dodge.

Anonymous Tue May 18 10:35:30 2021 No.34801773
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Why didnt Zun add spell practice to all games after IN? It is a pain in the ass when you are fucked by some hard spell, but to grind it you have to pass THE WHOLE STAGE AGAIN.
ZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 10:50:13 2021 No.34802005 >>34801773 There is spell practice, what are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 11:02:32 2021 No.34802222 >>34802005 In games like SA and MOF you can spell practice? I guess only with patches. He did include it in later games, but not all of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 11:36:45 2021 No.34802750 >>34802005 It's missing between IN and TD. MoF, SA and UFO also got the weird continue system that is worse than starting over for later stages

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 11:38:20 2021 No.34802773 >>34719348 i still can't get this down right. i always mistime or die whenever i try to chomp down a boss. also, i just realized that you can actually buy cards you can afford with shot power.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 11:59:26 2021 No.34803082 >>34802750 That's because you're supposed to 1cc it bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 12:28:24 2021 No.34803484 >>34803082 But if I remember unlike old continues shit in SA and UFO does not unlock stage practice, isnt it? It makes playing even harder, as to LEARN you have to beat stage first, which is retarded at best.

Anonymous Tue May 18 12:51:29 2021 No.34803764
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>>34800986
Besides gimmick spellcards there's also plenty of attacks with fast moving bullets that only unfold into proper patterns closer to the bottom of the screen. And Benben's curved lasers. And stage 4 poorly readable blue spam that always hits me with fuck knows what.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 12:53:49 2021 No.34803801 >>34800705 Yeah. Will crack Extra today and see if I can do Hard too.

Anonymous Tue May 18 13:38:36 2021 No.34804422

>>34798399
It's just as hard to cap it as Sakuya, but if we're talking about simply getting through it, that's way easier. Sakuya can still damage Momoyo while her bomb is active, and her shot is much more powerful than Mari's, so you can just sit below Momoyo and bombspam. On the other hand, Mari has no recourse but to treat it as a survival spell, which basically makes it a run-killer.

>>34803764
There are places in stage 4 where you can actually sit at the top of the screen and dodging becomes way easier. Of course, any time there are lots of items on screen, you should be bombing to turn them into a life piece; that applies a lot in stage 4. And more practice will help with knowing what attacks are going to look like before they get to you. Keep at it.

Anonymous Tue May 18 14:22:24 2021 No.34805004

>>34804422
Are you guys talking DDC on Lunatic? I cleared Normal and Hard without too much trouble but Lunatic feels like such a massive step up in difficulty. Is there any trick to Kagerou or is it just RNG bullshit? Even the first stage is hard for me to get past without bombing

Anonymous Tue May 18 14:27:18 2021 No.34805046

>>34804422
Yeah using bombs it's probably so, but in terms of capturing it definitely seems harder. You usually get like a couple seconds (at best) below the boss after each misdirection, and during that period Marisa is able to hit with the bulk of her shot, but in the case of Sakuya your shot is completely misaimed and by the time you aim properly your time is already over and you have to be at the other side. Most of the damage doesn't even come from the time you get to be under the boss but from the damage you get in the split second you change directions, and a bit more if you hold focus and try to go as slowly as possible to the center, which is still about just a second. And even then, because of the very little time/space you have to aim your shot, the bullets end up spreading out quite a bit so the damage is reduced even more. After practicing it for a while my capture history with both of them is still awful, but it's somehow still much better with Marisa.
I was thinking in the context of a NMNB extra stage run, by now it looks like the only saving grace would be melting her HP at the very beginning with Saki's card+Centipede+Remi's fang (assuming active cards are allowed) and then hoping for the best, cause otherwise it seems extremely hard to get past that card

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 14:29:31 2021 No.34805070 >>34805004 kagerou is indeed just RNG bullshit on lunatic. same for benben and some of shimmy's attacks.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 15:28:46 2021 No.34805891 >>34799594 I thought Yukari was a bit harder overall, but a couple of Ran's spell cards were more difficult for me than Yukari's versions, like 120, 122, and 123.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 16:39:52 2021 No.34806865 >>34805004 I (>>34800952 >>34803764) am trying to 1cc it on normal with Reimu A. Sakuya A was easy thanks to her bullshit bomb, but now I have to actually git gud.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 16:50:17 2021 No.34806976 >>34806865 >ReimuA >I have to actually git gud You're a funny guy. Try SakuyaB if you want a shot type that actually isn't busted.

Anonymous Tue May 18 17:47:53 2021 No.34807607

Man, elixir + centipede can do some absurd stuff. Once your multiplier gets high enough, every boss becomes a premature ejaculator who dies after shooting half a wave. Reminds me of the Last Comer and its tiny boss HP pools.

Did hard with these and the usual passives, might try dipping into Lunatic. Also tried out the fox's MoF bomb but it didn't help much, since unlike the elixir it does count as a real bomb reset the combopede.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 19:53:48 2021 No.34809198 I decided to try LoLK on easy mode because I'm trash. I used bombs on things that weren't Clownpiece and as a result I cannot get past Junko's final spell. I am out of power and deal no damage. I have work in six hours. I want to kill myself.

Anonymous Tue May 18 19:57:33 2021 No.34809236

Ah, TH18 has been released and ZUN still hates Marisa. Will it ever end? Magic Missile's damage is comparable to Reimu's sealing needle even with it's lower fire rate and projectile speed, unfocused laser obviously isn't as good as Reimu's unfocused homing, her lasers don't even pierce anymore anyway, Master Spark is a shadow of it's former self...

Why, ZUN? Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 20:05:10 2021 No.34809321 I did it bros, I cleared UM Normal 1cc with Marisa. The last run went stupendous.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 20:08:58 2021 No.34809370 >>34791421 >>34792173 >not Marisa + Nitori Brainlets.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 20:19:22 2021 No.34809481 File: 10 KB, 400x858, touhou chart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34809321 Go ahead and laugh at me bros.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 21:29:49 2021 No.34810177 >>34809481 That's a good start. You should try using more shot types so that you can learn different approaches to those games and not lean on any specific crutch.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 21:49:26 2021 No.34810385 >>34809198 Time to play a good game instead

Anonymous Tue May 18 21:52:03 2021 No.34810416
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>>34809321
what cards anon? i almost did a 1cc normal run with sanae but i choked horribly and wasted 5 lives to chimata. also, i still can't do the lewd fox consistently for some reason. i always end up using at least a bomb on her.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 21:57:25 2021 No.34810475 >>34810416 The crutches. Sannyo's, Saki's, and Remilia's. The cards I got during my run were Cirno's, Alice's, Sakuya's, Suwako's, and Yuyuko's.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 22:26:14 2021 No.34810798 >>34809236 See >>34727047 Marisa has the two strongest shots in the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 22:30:13 2021 No.34810828 >>34727047 I thought >>34725891 was right, I just tried the game as Reimu for the first time after doing my Marisa 1cc and I did it with Reimu no trouble.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 22:34:10 2021 No.34810859 >>34727047 >Sanae is worse than no items what

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 22:35:47 2021 No.34810873 >>34727047 I guess the frogs and ricochet knives don't hit Mike? Still pretty cool. Do the damage just stack, or is there some diminishing return for hitting the boss with several attacks at once?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 23:21:22 2021 No.34811223 I am so fucking tired of being bad at videogames. >>34810873 Damage stacks.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 02:57:53 2021 No.34812497 >>34810385 like

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 02:58:56 2021 No.34812503 I can't beat UM on normal even with crutch cards. Why am I such a worthless piece of garbage? I got cocky for a few minutes and tried the extra stage. Holy fuck I think I'm physically incapable of this.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 03:02:07 2021 No.34812518 >>34812503 Don't want to sound mean, but why did you get cocky?

Anonymous Wed May 19 03:02:51 2021 No.34812522

>>34810385
No, anon, you don't understand. I'm really really fucking SHIT. I can sometimes after a lot of practice beat some games on easy with lots of bombs. I can not beat ANYTHING on normal. I did LoLK because point device helps trash like me actually get to play the game but that wasn't enough to pull me through sadly.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 03:24:35 2021 No.34812652 >>34812503 I couldn't beat it with Byakuren's Kama Sutra or Narumi's Jizz so I started using Saki's wolf + Marisa's two equip cards. Full unlock code is mastersdream on extra records btw.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 03:25:40 2021 No.34812661 >>34812652 >Full unlock code is mastersdream on extra records btw. Oops I made several typos I meant highlight trophy 13 haha oops

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 08:16:55 2021 No.34814913 >>34810798 Item cards have nothing to do with character base power.

Anonymous Wed May 19 11:19:41 2021 No.34817600

>>34810859
Sanae's Frogs and Ricocheting Knives have trouble hitting the boss. Unless you are shotgunning only one can hit at a time.

Also take this list with a grain of salt as it was tested mainly against bosses.

>>34810828
This list only applies to the ability cards. Reimu herself has still the second highest base damage.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 11:27:56 2021 No.34817718 >>34817600 Who has the highest base damage? Marisa?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 11:46:23 2021 No.34817932 >>34812518 because I didnt have bad day at work

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 12:11:09 2021 No.34818139 File: 22 KB, 371x488, chartimes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34817718 Sakuya, if you aim all her knives at the boss. Then reimu, who cannot hit with all her needles. Then Marisa and Sanae last.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 12:14:44 2021 No.34818169 >>34818139 >Marisa 3rd What the fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 12:22:20 2021 No.34818260 >>34818139 Does Reimu still have her smaller hitbox as well?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 12:56:10 2021 No.34818603 >>34818260 Reimu has 2px hitbox. Everyone else has 3px hitbox.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:07:17 2021 No.34818749 >>34818603 why is reimu so small

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:15:56 2021 No.34818870 >>34818749 I'm pretty sure Marisa's height is like literal gremlin tier which is why it's strange that Reimu has a smaller hitbox.

Anonymous Wed May 19 13:34:06 2021 No.34819162

>>34818169
Not him but this is why I was bitching before about ZUN hating Marisa. She's supposed to be the forward focus type but she doesn't even do the highest damage. This in addition to her other inferiorities. I haven't played Sanae yet in this game to be fair but she might be the worst character in the game. ZUN just repeatedly shits on her. I'm actually upset. I like Marisa, but it's not like I have a huge waifu boner for her, but she's been in every single mainline windows game. She shouldn't be this weak.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:35:04 2021 No.34819177 >>34819162 Hasn't she been the strongest/highest damage in most of the previous games?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:35:52 2021 No.34819188 >>34819162 >I was bitching before about ZUN hating Marisa. In what world

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:37:02 2021 No.34819204 >>34818870 Smaller hitbox represents tighter butthole.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:38:00 2021 No.34819218 >>34818603 no, everyone has had the same hitbox since hsifs. in 18 everyone has a 3px hitbox

Anonymous Wed May 19 13:39:21 2021 No.34819233

>>34819188
see >>34809236

>>34819177
I'm not sure(only played 16 once, never played 17, everything past 11 is hazy), but that's the point of Marisa, since she's the forward focus type; lack of range, made up for by power. But I can tell you for a fact that Master Spark keeps getting weaker and whereas it used to be crazy strong it is now outclassed by bombs it visually seems like it should not be. Read my other post; she just keeps getting weaker every game, in terms of damage, and even ignoring that speed, item collection does not make up for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:43:02 2021 No.34819284 File: 459 KB, 850x680, 1619588715189.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It annoys me that missile barrage is Marisa's precise focused shot while lasers are a spread shot. And why the fuck do magic missiles look like propane tanks now?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:44:17 2021 No.34819301 >>34819284 It's the same missile since SA, what do you mean "now"?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:50:02 2021 No.34819374 >>34819301 I never played Marisa much and took a long break from 2hu a few years ago so I only noticed that silly looking missile sprite recently.

Anonymous Wed May 19 13:53:44 2021 No.34819421

>>34819162
Sanae is actually pretty good.
Her unfocused spread is nice for stages and tracking focused shot is usefull for bosses.
She makes up for her low damage by being able to hit almost anything on the screen (but not behind her), unlike marisa who only shoots upwards.
She also has the strongest bomb.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:54:10 2021 No.34819428 >>34819421 I don't think anything will ever beat her bomb from UFO.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 13:57:25 2021 No.34819469 >>34819284 >magic missiles will never do the funny spread from PC-98 feels bad

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 14:32:15 2021 No.34819836 >>34819284 I remember when her missiles looked like christmas trees. I had no idea what the hell those were even meant to be at first.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 14:39:07 2021 No.34819892 >>34819284 >why the fuck do magic missiles look like propane tanks now? Well, what do you want them to look like?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 15:01:18 2021 No.34820129 >>34819836 >her missiles looked like christmas trees So I'm not the only one who thinks that? Cool

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 15:37:15 2021 No.34820580 >>34819892 Not him but I miss the christmas tree look

Anonymous Wed May 19 15:46:14 2021 No.34820687

Question about IN challenge runs, is a NB or NMNB invalid if you don't unlock all the last spells? Also, is there a list of requirements for each last spell? I have unlocked Keine's and Reimu's multiple times but I have never seen Mystia's or Reisen's before.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 16:01:48 2021 No.34820910 >>34820687 NB and not timing out

Anonymous Wed May 19 16:44:02 2021 No.34821405
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Managed to get to stinky midget's final attack but died. I need to get better at deciding when skip/bomb-schlorp/PoC item drops, I felt like there could be a couple potential extends wasted just due to poor loot management. I'm getting Warframe flashbacks from all that resource sucking bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 16:48:19 2021 No.34821459 >>34820687 it still counts as a valid NB/NMNB run, just not full spell

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 16:50:53 2021 No.34821501 >>34821405 What character are you using?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 18:04:24 2021 No.34822320 >>34820687 How the hell do you NMNB stages but not get the last spells.

Anonymous Wed May 19 18:55:49 2021 No.34822744

>>34812522
>I did LoLK because point device helps trash like me actually get to play the game

Nah. I've heard some people say shit like "start with LOLK because point device is good for beginners" and I'm convinced this is trolling. All it is is bashing your head against a brick wall of autistic bullet patterns. You'll have a much better time just going through normal in games with a simple and forgiving continue/extend system like 6,7,8, or 16.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 19:03:01 2021 No.34822792 >>34822744 I've done 8 in easy but haven't managed it on normal because easy mode isn't even the real game and Im too bad to beat it on normal.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 19:10:41 2021 No.34822849 >>34822792 Fuck it, play it til you run out of continues and try to do better next time. Play another touhou if you get bored. This is how you improve, and since you're not playing lolk you might even enjoy yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 19:54:16 2021 No.34823198 >>34821501 Raymoo A

Anonymous Wed May 19 22:17:43 2021 No.34824480

>>34822744
What? LoLK Normal Point Device IS good for beginners except for maybe Clownpiece. It's literally just instant retries for all spell cards and if you suck badly enough, you're forced to git gud because your power will be low enough that you can't nuke their health.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 22:25:38 2021 No.34824567 >>34824480 Honestly I'd prefer something like MoF or PCB SakuyaA for that. They're way better at teaching you to plan around stages and know where to bomb. If you're going to start with LoLK, you might as well drop the pretense and start with StB.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 22:40:22 2021 No.34824720 File: 67 KB, 500x500, super mysterious ufo midboss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Didn't realize the undefined fantastic object drops a bomb instead of a 1-up if you bomb her. That's what I get for being a scrub, I guess.

Anonymous Wed May 19 23:38:47 2021 No.34825267
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Beat Suwako's extra. I can see why people say her extra's one of the easiest, beat it on my second try that sitting (though I had practiced a little bit before that). Koishi's on the other hand is brutal, people weren't kidding it being one of the hardest. I think I can do it if I practice it enough but I think I may move on for now and try beating up Nue, she doesn't seem too bad.

Anonymous Thu May 20 00:36:56 2021 No.34825743

>>34825267
Congrats! Keep in mind that Koishi's last card can be timed out in its first phase with no repercussions. Once you have a plan for Genetics and Rorschach she's mostly smooth sailing.

I found Nue harder than her, but that's mostly because I can't read the gummy snakes at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 00:39:54 2021 No.34825770 >>34798033 >does that invalidate the run it doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 02:08:50 2021 No.34826281 >>34824720 Thanks for the tip anon

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 03:03:04 2021 No.34826613 >>34825743 I see, I'll keep that in mind. Honestly a big reason I'm putting it off for now is that I find the stage very annoying and doing it over and over again to practice Koishi was getting to me.

Anonymous Thu May 20 11:24:16 2021 No.34832792

>>34822320
I have NMNB the first two stages numerous times and Mystia's last spell has NEVER appeared. Wriggle's appears sometimes. However I'm playing on Normal. I played Hard a few times and Wriggle's last spell has consistently appeared for some reason. Are the requirements different on Normal than Hard and Lunatic?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 11:28:09 2021 No.34832843 >>34832792 You need to get enough time items.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 11:54:34 2021 No.34833168 >>34825267 If you think Suwako is easy then try Raiko or Saki

Anonymous Thu May 20 15:32:05 2021 No.34835943
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Finally 1cc'd IN. I don't get a lot of time to game these days so my practice is on and off, but this was my best one yet and I'm kinda proud. Kicked Kaguya's ass with 3 lives to spare.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 16:03:13 2021 No.34836324 >>34835943 just realized I didn't even read the chart properly, that should be on 6B...

Anonymous Thu May 20 16:18:58 2021 No.34836493
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I did it, lads. I cleared DDC with Reimu A. Finished it off with my final bomb. Slapping dumb midge in slomo with giant gohei while her death animation is playing was immensely satisfying. It came full circle. I picked this shot to smack bitches with gohei and concluded my grind with the juiciest bitch slap ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 18:46:09 2021 No.34838241 File: 52 KB, 768x768, E1gr3C2VEAIL7c6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34836493 Nice! What's next? Please do DDC Marisa. She's cute and wants to play.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 18:48:41 2021 No.34838274 >>34716163 IN is so generous with bombs and lives (also fuck sakuya)

Anonymous Thu May 20 19:29:13 2021 No.34838782

>>34825267
>>34826613
I think I'm gonna stick with Koishi for now after all, since it's fun to do them in order for me. I started using thprac which I find kind of shameful truthfully, but I'm glad I can capture her first spell card now thanks to it. I kept forgetting how it worked by the time I got to her again after dying.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 19:51:19 2021 No.34839010 File: 59 KB, 320x180, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] very nice hitbox remilia

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 19:52:59 2021 No.34839026 File: 2.21 MB, 320x180, epic remi hitbox.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] thanks zun :^)

Anonymous Thu May 20 20:29:53 2021 No.34839414
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Wow, is it me or is UM really fucking hard?
I fucking suck at the game but at least I can complete 1cc normal mode of most of the games with some grinding and practice and not much trouble
so I finished an easy run just to see the story and see the ending and then I tried the normal mode
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?
I was getting fucked left and right by the stage enemies, bosses jumped too but the stage was way more noticeable, but what the unholy fuck was that? that didn't feel at all like normal difficulty

Anonymous Thu May 20 20:35:41 2021 No.34839476
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are there any noteworthy differences between homing reimu across all the games? i feel so dumb just finding out now that reimuA in MoF is sort of different from most of the reimuA, in that your homie bullets don't target the closest enemy. i'm not sure but they seemed to be programmed to target whatever it is you are NOT directly hitting IF there are other enemies aside from the one you're directly hitting.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 20:37:10 2021 No.34839488 >>34839414 I agree. You really have to make use of cards and have good synergy with them, because I think he made the game harder than usual to account for them.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 20:40:01 2021 No.34839528 >>34839414 maybe it's just a difference in difficulty balance but as a Lunatic level player I find UM to be far easier than the majority of the games once I understood the patterns

Anonymous Thu May 20 20:51:13 2021 No.34839641

>>34839414
>>34839488
I thought so at first, but after a bit of practice I'd say they were only a bit harder to learn, and not ultimately that difficult. Just off the top of my head, 14 and 16 had some much harder stage sections.
But yeah, finding a good card combo for your play style will help a lot.

Anonymous Thu May 20 21:00:03 2021 No.34839740
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>>34839414
that's odd, i have only 1cc-ed two games and it is EoSD on normal and UM on normal. in UM i usually go all passives because i am too dumb to learn to press another button. the only thing i dread in stages from a normal run is the fox because i still don't know how to do her aside from wasting a bomb.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 21:03:39 2021 No.34839779 File: 84 KB, 247x460, image_2021-05-21_030342.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34839740 >best line in the entire game Holding back is useless [smug]

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 21:41:04 2021 No.34840205 File: 19 KB, 800x638, 1cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34838782 Beat Koishi! Honestly thought I'd have beaten her tomorrow at the earliest. https://files.catbox.moe/n7c3o9.rpy

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 22:32:28 2021 No.34840788 >>34840205 In one day? God damn dude, nice work.

Anonymous Thu May 20 22:43:25 2021 No.34840876

>>34840788
Thanks! It would've taken a lot longer if I didn't use thprac to get the hang of a couple of her spell cards. I don't intend on using it again outside of Hecatia though, since Nue seems more reasonable without spell practice and the other extras I haven't cleared have spell practice in vanilla.

Anonymous Thu May 20 23:54:56 2021 No.34841505

>>34839414
UM takes a bit of getting used to. Unlock all three slots, grab the dog, find an active you're comfortable with, and then either buy lots of equipment or try to get a decent passive combo going. Or you could get lucky and find the feather in shop when you have enough money, which is essentially a free clear.

It also helps that the gap between difficulties isn't that big (Lunatic is hardy worse than Hard, Hard is hardly worse than Normal), the stages are short and very route-able, and Chimata's final spell can be bombed out.

Seriously, what's up with that? That's the first bombable last spell in Windows Touhou, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 01:07:58 2021 No.34842232 My mom started playing Touhou with me over zoom.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 01:25:48 2021 No.34842375 >>34842232 Bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 01:32:41 2021 No.34842412 >>34842375 It's not like we're LNN-ing UFO together We play the easy games like Lotus Land

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 01:40:56 2021 No.34842468 >>34841505 DDC, LoLK and WBaWC's are fully bombable.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 03:36:07 2021 No.34843103 File: 147 KB, 840x1024, pHZA-U0dQvc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34838241 Next is probably more PCB, I need to chill after DDC grind. Marisa is usually 2deep4me because you have to aim and she's FAST.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 03:40:06 2021 No.34843113 Honestly I still find DDC much more difficult than UM. Stages 5 and 6 are just fucked in that one

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 03:55:43 2021 No.34843176 Have only played a few hours of Touhou, is there a way to start with more lives? Asking mainly for Mountain of Faith or Great Fairy War. I'm a scrub and replaying the first stage on easy over and over is embarrassing me.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 03:57:53 2021 No.34843191 >>34843176 Oh, also, does anyone have a blank of that chart? Seems like a fun way to play through the games.

Anonymous Fri May 21 04:11:29 2021 No.34843256

>>34843176
I would really not recommend starting with Fairy Wars if you're totally new, since it plays very differently from the others, so at best it won't help you get better and at worst it might give you bad habits.
You can set starting lives in 6, 7, and 8, but Easy mode has almost no bullets to begin with; rather than starting with more lives, you should get a grasp on the basics, otherwise no amount of lives will help you.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 04:17:20 2021 No.34843276 >>34843176 MoF and GFW are pretty brutal for a beginner. I'd recommend playing the earlier windows games instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 04:27:49 2021 No.34843341 >>34843276 >MoF >pretty brutal for a beginner huh? it doesn't get much easier than mof

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 04:32:48 2021 No.34843377 >>34843256 >>34843276 Fair enough, I'll cut my teeth on EoSD

Anonymous Fri May 21 05:09:53 2021 No.34843607

>>34843341
Can't hoard resources in earlier stages and then carpet bomb stage 5 and 6 bosses (although Sanae is a wimp).
Being stuck at low [p] if you bomb too much during bossfights.
Hard to practice with how continues work.
Back when I was just starting playing 2hu I considered it one of the hardest. But once my fundamentals were in place it rapidly became way less intimidating.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 07:14:45 2021 No.34845412 just started playing last week how do i git gud

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 08:03:08 2021 No.34846165 WHY IS UNCONNECTED MARKETEERS SO HARD AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I can barely play it on easy

Anonymous Fri May 21 12:12:11 2021 No.34850113

>>34843607
i mean if you intend to literally be able to bomb through absolutely everything then honestly you're hardly even playing the game, it doesn't really matter how easy/hard the game is but rather how broken the resource system is
and even then if you genuinely just care about getting a 1cc without necessarily having to learn the game then you can easily marisa b glitch your way through mof too

Anonymous Fri May 21 12:17:55 2021 No.34850220

>>34845412
>>34846165
Hold Shift for focused movement. Stay low on the screen. Don't move around so much. Don't focus on bullets, focus on the spaces between them and move there. Don't die with bombs in stock.
Easy is barely even a game, just practice a bit until you're not killing yourself on random shit.

Anonymous Fri May 21 14:05:20 2021 No.34851676
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Was doing high damage runs for fun with each character and something felt off about the times - specifically Reimu and Sanae felt disproportionately strong - so I went and checked each character individually with and without centipede. As it turns out, they do seem to be enjoying a greater damage output and Reimu even managed to outpace Sakuya for the final spell.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 15:16:16 2021 No.34852408 >>34851676 Can you test either of them with centipede+Saki's card? I tried it once and didn't see any notable difference when centipede was at max power but maybe I'm just being a dumbass

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 15:44:29 2021 No.34852692 File: 872 KB, 1280x480, 1611984733916.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34852408 I don't think centipede does anything to the main shot, just the non-equipment familiars (and maybe Remilia? Seemed to do more than usual on the Marisa run)

Anonymous Fri May 21 16:03:17 2021 No.34852902
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>>34852692
It does however seem to care about Suwako's card for some reason. Was able to get to 1.800 in the middle of her final spell despite the other Reimu runs not getting there and got a decently faster time.

Anonymous Fri May 21 17:48:24 2021 No.34853850
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>>34845412
Practice!
Use continues to unlock stage in practice mode. Use practice mode to practice the later stages.
Learn to identify things you struggle with that you could get consistent at with some practice, and things you struggle with that'd take a lot of effort to get consistent at. If your goal is to 1CC, you should bomb the latter things. You'll slowly improve your bullet reading skills and muscle memory, and the things that seemed impossible will eventually become possible.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 17:51:39 2021 No.34853875 >>34851676 >>34852692 >>34852902 These are great. Thank you for your research.

Anonymous Fri May 21 18:04:23 2021 No.34853997

>>34851676
>Reimu even managed to outpace Sakuya for the final spell
How? Your non-centipede runs has Sakuya clearing 5 secs faster than Reimu (without fang) but your centipede runs with a maxed centipede Sakuya is clearing slower than an almost maxed centipede Reimu. How is that happening?

Anonymous Fri May 21 19:16:31 2021 No.34854672

>>34853997
no idea anon, same thing happened with Centipede!Sanae beating Centipede!Marisa
I'm gonna make the assumption that because centipede only affects familiar shot, that whenever she moved and Sakuya/Marisa stopped hitting for a short bit it resulted in a time loss over Sanae's and Reimu's more consistent damage
that's just a guess though

Anonymous Fri May 21 19:46:05 2021 No.34854957

Uhh so has anyone had any issues with replays in UM? I just saved a replay of an extra stage clear and for whatever reason it looks like there's some rng desync against Momoyo and I only get to see me killing myself over and over again.
It was a NMNB clear too so if after all that fucking practice my replay is gone for good I'm offing myself

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 20:10:36 2021 No.34855183 >>34854957 Centipede card has desync issues in full game runs but I don't know about extra. My "LNN" replay with Centipede+Eiki's coins doesn't work either but whatever it's not like it was even hard.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 20:20:59 2021 No.34855287 >>34854957 Yeah, I know mine's desync'd during Shield Method of the Youkai. In my run, I cleared it by using 2 Remilla fangs but the replay never does the last one (which is supposed to end the spellcard).

Anonymous Fri May 21 20:49:30 2021 No.34855578

>>34855183
>>34855287
Well at least it's good to know the cause. But it still fucking sucks cause I really liked how that run went.
And also it feels kinda wrong adding that to the chart with literally nothing to back it up. Guess I'll just try again another time

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 21:02:21 2021 No.34855733 Ahhhh I choked on Nue's final spell twice. Getting there though

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 21:10:31 2021 No.34855851 >>34855578 Actually never mind, I just found out thprac allows you to play back the desynced replays just fine, that's awesome

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 21:18:42 2021 No.34855949 >>34855851 Really? I've never used thprac, how does that work?

Anonymous Fri May 21 21:30:27 2021 No.34856089
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>>34855949
Yes, you just launch the game and then the thprac exe and it should load normally, after that you press F12 and the menu in pic related shows up, just check Centipede Card Fix and then play back your replay and it should work just fine

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 22:29:32 2021 No.34856717 >>34839414 >Wow, is it me or is UM really fucking hard? The cards make the game a cakewalk.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 22:35:25 2021 No.34856775 >>34715359 >Now I never have to play the Extra as Mari again, thank God. Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 22:40:59 2021 No.34856829 >>34856775 I don't know why you're telling him to kill himself. Marisa has a harder time clearing stuff in UM than the other 3 types.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 22:41:50 2021 No.34856837 File: 19 KB, 800x639, 1CC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cleared PCB with Reimu B. I'm running low on easy 1cc targets!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 22:46:47 2021 No.34856886 >>34856837 Do the rest of IN on Normal. That's what I'm doing

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 23:02:50 2021 No.34857054 >>34856775 he already killed himself by playing Marisa

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 23:33:26 2021 No.34857379 >>34856837 WBAWC

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