Fake Otaku

[Anonymous No.]

Dear /jp/ if you're not a social outcast/loser/social retard you're not a real otaku you're just a normalfag larper.

The amount of girl " and normalfags who larp as Otaku are pissing me off and they're fucking turning me off from Japanese media and even having a interest in Japan

The ironic thing about all this too is those fags would've been the exact same people about 10-15 years ago shitting on anime fans saying that they're weird, degenerates, etc and bullied people who liked anime/manga and Japanese culture but ever since nerd culture became mainstream normal people with normal lives now feel the need to larp as outcast/social retards and steal our media because they think its cool.

Why do normalfags ruin everything?

[Anonymous No.]

OP, you're not an otaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396556
>OP, you're not an otaku.

Yes i am fuck off normalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
Sure, but why are you telling us this?

[Anonymous No.]

I have not left my property in 2 years.

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>>34396563
No you're just a social outcast loser retard.

[Anonymous No.]

If you've never unloaded a powerfully pungent pile onto your floor, you're missing out on the /jp/ experience.

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>>34396579
>Sure, but why are you telling us this?

Because /jp/ has normies on it.

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>>34396581
>I have not left my property in 2 years.

And?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396601
Do you have any good examples of such behaviour lately?

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>>34396592

That looks comfy.

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>>34396601
>complaining about normalfaggots
>normies
kill yourself and go back

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>>34396592
I don't need to shit on the floor today because this thread is already a heaping pile of shit.

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>>34396625
the catalog that is full of literal underages and 3dpd?

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>>34396543
that anime girl was made for hentai parodies

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>>34396633
You're a good anon. Kids these days often forget simple but very important differences.

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>>34396625
>Do you have any good examples of such behaviour lately?

>>/jp/thread/S21637526#p21642062

When i made this thread last time it got a lot of normalfag replies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396659
>the catalog that is full of literal underages and 3dpd?

This

[Anonymous No.]

The ironic weeb craze is past its peak. In a few years the insipid riajuu will find some other subculture to destroy.

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>>34396687
>The ironic weeb craze is past its peak. In a few years the insipid riajuu will find some other subculture to destroy.

I hope you're right.

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>>34396680
Imagine being on /jp/ and having a job or friends to talk to lmao

Using /jp/ and using Instagram/TikTok/Facebook just doesn't go together

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>>34396698
>Using /jp/ and using Instagram/TikTok/Facebook just doesn't go together

Agreed usually /jp/ and /r9k/ before it was taken over by normalfags from /soc/ /lgbt/ /b/ and reddit the boards were both NEET/loser central.

[Anonymous No.]

Being an antisocial loser is not a status symbol.

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>>34396731
You're mixing up antisocial and asocial, antisocial people are actual sociopaths

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>>34396779
>antisocial people are actual sociopaths

Not all.

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>>34396731
>Being an antisocial loser is not a status symbol.

That's my point.

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>>34396978
antisocial people are people who are anti-society, as in, they do not subscribe to civility and hate society and want to tear it down and feel much better in a lawless, crime filled anarchy

asocials are those who are asocial, to put it into retard english, "unsocial". they're people who do not take part in social events and avoid it

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>>34396543
Why does this read like a paste I've seen before? Either that, or it's just a sentiment lacking gravity that's so generic it sounds like one.
Grow some thicker skin. If you can't enjoy what you claim to enjoy because other people "ruin" it for you, you need to rethink your passions. Is it the actual stuff you're meekly attempting to gatekeep that you love, or is it the concept of gatekeeping that you love? You really do sound like you like the latter more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34397065

Thus a wild normalfag appears.

[Anonymous No.]

>34397094
Fine, I'll bite. Have your 5 seconds of meek entertainment.
And what if I am one? How do you even personally define such a thing, in this ever changing linguistics environment called the internet? How do you deduce such things, or do you blindly label things like an immature child might? I'm not going to try "defending" myself, if that's what you can even call defending, by stating how much Japanese media I consume or by stating my real-life social standings among other things. I know it's a fruitless pursuit to try and cultivate some form of conversation here, since most of you fags that respond to these threads barely have enough mental cohesion or caring to try, but I still do it because of my own reasons.
My point still stands and you know it, despite your predictable attempt at baiting, which could be classified as an ad hominem.

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>>34396543
Yeah, it's annoying when people say things like "I'm really into anime" but all they can list is the most generic shit like attack on titan or MHA. Then they act like your not "really" into anime because you haven't seen whatever is the most popular shit that's been on the front page of Netflix or Crunchy roll.

a sudden influx of casual fans flooding the places where long standing anime fans congregate is always annoying, I never had one in highschool but I've heard that a lot of peoples experiences joining an anime club in highschool is similar.

Those same people joke about how they "know the numbers" of different hentai and how degenerate they are, but those same people are repulsed by the idea of loli or trap hentai.

They are "anime fans" that still occupy the realm of normal people.

It's annoying because if you actually meet someone IRL who says they're into anime and manga you have to stop yourself and prod as to check whether they are actually into that sort of stuff or if they're just a surface dwelling normie.

I find actual normies worse though. The kind of people that berate or look down on you because almost all you watch is anime but have been hounding you to watch breaking bad or game of thrones for the last year. All the while thinking they're superior because they're media they consume is more mainstream and thus makes them more "sociable" as opposed to your "weird" hobby.

That's why I tend to avoid talking about my interest in anime and manga or just otaku stuff in general, but these new "ironic weeb" types are people you have to be cautious not to let your guard down as well. Generally I find people who are deep into weeb stuff (excluding the hardcore autists) tend to have some social awareness and hide it very well. Whereas casual weebs still orbit the realm of sociability but are lacking in self awareness due to the fact that they are circling the well of a taboo.

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>>34397227
>Yeah, it's annoying when people say things like "I'm really into anime" but all they can list is the most generic shit like attack on titan or MHA.

Or JoJo

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>>34397227
The kind of person you described is more of a casual or novice guy than a fake/ironic one desu.
>Then they act like your not "really" into anime because you haven't seen whatever is the most popular shit
I mean, isn't that kind of true? If you haven't even watched surface-level shit yet, then do you even watch anything? Or are you just repulsed by anything mainstream or popular in general?

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>>34397305
>JoJo

[Anonymous No.]

I just wanted to talk about 2hus...

[Anonymous No.]

If you don't know Japanese you can't truly be otaku

[Anonymous No.]

rope yourself kek

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>>34397315
no not really, don't forget that whatever is the most popular is whatever is the flavour of the month and is constantly changing. Just because I don't watch whatever is the most popular new aoty doesn't mean someone isn't into anime or hasn't been for a really long time.

It's like saying to someone who's into reading who's read james clavell, dostoevsky, etc that they're not "really" into reading because they haven't checked out vince flynn or fifty shades of grey.
>then do you even watch anything?

I do,but not just whatever's the most popular this year and especially not because it is popular. Yes there are people that are going to start off with surface level stuff and delve deeper but there is also the majority of people that will just stay floating at the surface and move onto whatever next thing is on the hypetrain.

I think there is a pronounced psychological difference between those two kinds of people, one you could find if you were to try and study both groups. In general though you could say casuals or normies tend to be extroverted whereas non-casuals tend to introverted. How you define those groups is largely semantics but if you can't even see the distinction your probably a normie yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34397461
>If you don't know Japanese you can't truly be otaku

That's a bit of a stretch.

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>>34397227
If you don't want to hear normalfag surface opinions, then go deeper and never surface. The only reason you'd encounter these people is if you mingle with them or in real life.

The thing about irony weeb is that they're going to put their new "hobby" as their front and plaster it everywhere and won't shut the fuck up about it. You have two choices from here, you can either ignore these animals and never interact with them or constantly berate them until they shut the fuck up about it.

This is why being closet otaku is the best. You get best of both worlds, enjoy both, and resent both.

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>>34396543
part of that attitude as well is this new culture of detached coolness and self deprecation that's come up in our post modern society. It's "quirky" to be weird, to be an outsider and to have depression or anxiety. All you need to do is go to the front page of reddit to see evidence of this. Such an attitude though isn't productive for society and will dissipate as the next generation in society comes up and tries to find it's own identity from the one that preceded it.

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>>34397463
>rope yourself kek

You first normalfag.

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>>34397494
that's true, only thing is my little sister is now one of these types, so I can't exactly ignore her. But in general your right. I like the idea of berating them, i'll have to remember that.

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>>34397501
That's called post-irony and, ironically, 4chan was and still is at its forefront and is its pioneer.

[Anonymous No.]

Whether you have friends or not has literally nothing to do with whether you're an otaku. Otaku in Japan have otaku friends. If it's measured by anything it's measured by level of dedication to whatever thing you're into. It's definitely not measured even a little bit by how obscure your interests are or what weird shit you beat off to.

As for friends who aren't as "high-level" as you, if you want to only be friends with people as high-level as you you're not going to have very many friends, and in most Western countries, likely zero. You can shit on them for being "casuals" if you want, but if society was actually run that way, the people who know more than you would shit on you too and everybody could only talk to people who are exactly the same as they are.

>>34397492
Anyone who's genuinely dedicated to [insert weeb interest here] either knows Japanese, is relatively new to it, or has an learning disability that makes it impossible for them to learn a new language.

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>>34397619
>Otaku in Japan have otaku friends

Yes most outcast still 1 or a couple friends.

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>>34397740
Most otaku in Japan are not "outcasts." They're part of a subculture that really isn't all that rare in Japan.

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>>34397771
>Most otaku in Japan are not "outcasts." They're part of a subculture that really isn't all that rare in Japan

They are by Japanese standards there is a stigma towards being otaku in Japan.

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>>34397539
4chan is at the forefront in posting nigger dicks too, doesn't mean it's good

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>>34397836
>They are by Japanese standards there is a stigma towards being otaku in Japan.
There's a stigma against being vegan in America (because vegans are all insufferable shitheads) but that doesn't mean they're "outcasts" or that they have no friends.

The only otaku who are genuine outcasts from society are ones who are completely socially retarded, and they'd be socially retarded even if they weren't otaku.

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>>34396543
Grow up and learn to stop caring about trivial stuff, it will vastly improve your mental health.

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>>34397875
>There's a stigma against being vegan in America

No there isn't most people don't give a shit if you're vegan.

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>>34397893
>Grow up and learn to stop caring about trivial stuff, it will vastly improve your mental health.

Not that easy.

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>>34397619
>you need to socialise with other weebs in your social life

There are people whose interests are based on what's popular, not the content of the thing they're interested. They want to be "trendy" with whatevers most current. They're they're the kind of people that would have checked out Kancolle in the 2010's because it was trending on tumblr.

And guess what? people who have those kinds of surface level interests are going to naturally be more extroverted and social, they are going to be people concerned with popular opinion.
No one is saying that they are "superior" because they're interests are deeper, what they're saying is these two types of people are not the same. And that finding people with such niche or deep interests is antithetical to socialising because most people are not going to have those deep interests.

You can still socialise and many otaku in the west do while hiding that aspect of themselves, as >>34397494 alluded to, you would have to skim through a lot of people to find people who share your niche interests.

There is a definite correlation between openly social weebs and casuals, because most people who go beyond the tip of the iceberg are either socially inept or cleverly learn to hide their introverted nature to live in society.

> It's definitely not measured even a little bit by how obscure your interests are or what weird shit you beat off to.

how do you think you get to the point of having obscure interests in the first place? No, someone who goes off autistically on their anime discord server about the ending to attack on titan and someone who checks out all the spin off manga, interviews and other stuff and maybe even has enough knowledge about a specific fandom (like touhou, 07th expansion, etc) to develop a niche interest and know all of the things surrounding that are not the same. That's why gatekeeping exists.

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>>34397906
Most Japanese don't give a shit if you're an otaku in the year 2021. The otaku killer helped give otaku a bad rap for a decade or two but they got over it. They wrap buses and subway cars in anime characters, and even if you're not into 3D nobody cares because a third of Japanese people aren't either. The average young Japanese person has an otaku friend. Nobody gives a shit.

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>>34397845
That's what I'm saying. Post-irony also isn't just 4chan culture, it's old 4chan culture. And many people on this site have this idea that old 4chan = perfect.

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>>34397968
I did start playing Kancolle in the 2010s because it was trending on Twitter. I played for a few years, read a couple dozen books on Imperial Japan, bought the doujinshi at Comiket, visited the Yamato Museum in Kure, then eventually got bored with the game and stopped playing. Who gives a shit?

>And that finding people with such niche or deep interests is antithetical to socialising because most people are not going to have those deep interests.
You can find all sorts of people with deep interests. What you're probably not going to find is people who have the exact same deep interests as you. Sure, you can find some of them on 4chan, because they've been handpicked from a population of about 2 billion Westerners and SEAs to have the exact same level as you, but if you demand that of the people you meet IRL you're going to be sorely disappointed.

The thing about shitting on everybody with lower powerlevel than you is that you get lonelier and lonelier as your powerlevel goes up, and once you reach the top you either become a Taoist hermit who has transcended human interaction or you wonder what the point of it all was in the first place.

>That's why gatekeeping exists.
Gatekeeping exists because nerds want to feel self-important about how high their powerlevel is. It doesn't exist in other contexts. People who do multiweek wilderness backpacking don't shit on day hikers, people who run ultramarathons don't shit on joggers, people who could run an arms dealership out of their garage don't shit on people who like to shoot cans with babby's first rifle.

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>>34397990
>Most Japanese don't give a shit if you're an otaku in the year 2021
>He doesn't know about Honne and tatemae

Sure they may be polite and act like they don't give a shit out in public but behind closed doors they are probably posting on 2channel about how otaku are disgusting degenerates.

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>>34398112
Anyone posting on 2channel is already a disgusting degenerate.

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>>34398084
>I did start playing Kancolle in the 2010s because it was trending on Twitter

Normalfag.

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>>34398128
Want to explain that, slowly, in a way that doesn't make you sound like a retard?

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>>34398118
>Anyone posting on 2channel is already a disgusting degenerate.

Yes and no there a lot of outcast such as otaku and hikikomori on there but there are also a lot of Japanese normalfags as well.

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>>34398084

Japanese language is a good example of needed, self fulfilling gatekeeping mechanism

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>>34398145
Pretty much only the trash of society posts on 2channel. The normies who post on 2channel are all losers even if they aren't otaku. Actually successful Japanese people, climbing the corporate ladder, made section chief, happily married, those people aren't whining about otaku on an anonymous imageboard. They're throwing shit around online for fun.

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>>34398180
If you gatekept all people who didn't speak Japanese out of the "anime community" there literally wouldn't be an anime community. Literally everybody in these communities who knows Japanese still started on subbed media.

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>>34398187
>Pretty much only the trash of society posts on 2channel. The normies who post on 2channel are all losers

Normalfags aren't losers they are probably Cyborgs or Failed normalfags

>Anonymous imageboard

2channel/5channel or 2ch/5ch is a textboard Futaba channel or 2chan is a imageboard

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>>34398199
>If you gatekept all people who didn't speak Japanese out of the "anime community" there literally wouldn't be an anime community. Literally everybody in these communities who knows Japanese still started on subbed media.

This

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bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>34398582
yeah, gatekeeping is necessary but if it's too strict it can cause a community to shrink and eventually kill the thing it was supposed to preserve.

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>>34396543
if you want another niche thing to do - try linux, otherwise shut up and enjoy things, why are you around people anyway

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>>34399476
>yeah, gatekeeping is necessary but if it's too strict it can cause a community to shrink and eventually kill the thing it was supposed to preserve.

Not really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34399534
>linux

Normalfags use that too.

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>>34399547
try loli, surely normalfags are not into it

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>>34399535
how so? obviously you need gatekeeping to keep out casuals, but if it's too strict new people come into the community the amount of people in the community will get older and diminish over time, slowly dying out.

Albeit that would only happen with extreme examples like >>34397461

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>>34399534
>just let people enjoy things

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>>34399570
>try loli, surely normalfags are not into it

I have and it turned me into a pedo so didn't go so well.

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>>34399699
>>34399704
my point is you should not care about what others like and mind your own fucking business

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>>34399905
>my point is you should not care about what others like and mind your own fucking business

Kinda hard to when normalfags are everywhere they even ruined this site.

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>>34400143
The presence of normalfags shouldn't affect whether you enjoy a thing and if it does, that's your problem. Lots of people I don't like eat ice cream, but this has no effect whatsoever on whether or not I am capable of enjoying ice cream.

>they even ruined this site.
People have been saying this site is being ruined every year for the last fifteen years. There's people out there who think people like you ruined the site.

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>>34400143
learn japanese and go to 2chan or cave in, tell me if you have other options

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>>34400239
>There's people out there who think people like you ruined the site.

Well they are retarded because when 4chan first came out it was just a English 2chan where nerds weebs and outcast could talk about anime/manga and Japanese culture it was made for people like me but now all these chads that fuck bitches 24/7 and go to parties are posting here trying to fit in and think its cool to be a nerd.

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>>34396543
/r9k/ is the board you're looking for

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>>34400248
>learn japanese and go to 2chan

じゃあ日本語で話したら信じてもらえますか? www

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>>34400423
>/r9k/ is the board you're looking for

Board sucks now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
>they're fucking turning me off from Japanese media and even having a interest in Japan
Letting others change the things you're interested in is the most normalfag thing a person can do.

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>>34400835
>Letting others change the things you're interested in is the most normalfag thing a person can do.

Prove it.

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>>34399905
my point is you should not care about what others like and mind your own fucking business

>>34400239
The presence of normalfags shouldn't affect whether you enjoy a thing and if it does, that's your problem. Lots of people I don't like eat ice cream, but this has no effect whatsoever on whether or not I am capable of enjoying ice cream.


please go back to /r/animememes or whatever festering sewer you crawled out of

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>>34399905
>my point is you should not care about what others like and mind your own fucking business

>>34400239
>The presence of normalfags shouldn't affect whether you enjoy a thing and if it does, that's your problem. Lots of people I don't like eat ice cream, but this has no effect whatsoever on whether or not I am capable of enjoying ice cream.

Please go back to /r/animememes or whatever festering sewer hole you crawled out of.

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>>34398011
>post irony
>old 4chan culture
go the fuck back you 2010 newfag there wasnt a shred of that cancerous shit back in 2007

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>>34400766
Okay then go to Wizchan then

[Anonymous No.]

>>34402280

No it's shit.

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>>34402245

This

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>>34396543
I despise normalfags as much as the average /jp/edo, i hate how they use the word "waifu" when they mean bishoujo or how 3DPD do ahegaos is repulsive.
I blame the "cool japan" strategy. However, otaku != loser, antisocial anime/manga fan. In japan well adjusted productive otaku hide their power level, maybe in the west too i don't know.

[Anonymous No.]

who truNEET truOTAKU tru/JP/ER here

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>>34396543
Yeah that's not what otaku means. Otaku in Japan are not these hikikomori retards that Westerners imagine them to be.

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>>34403797
'tis the life anon.

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>>34403852
Otaku in Japan are weirdos that are obsessed with anime like Tsutomu Miyazaki

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>>34404017
Miyazaki was a gigantic outlier, and his extreme mental dysfunction had nothing to do with being an otaku.

I've noticed that only otaku are ever said to be "obsessed" with something. If someone watches movies all day every day, nobody says he's obsessed. Only otaku are ever "obsessed." Everything they do is "obsessive."

[Anonymous No.]

to be otaku you have to be 'gross'

you can be a physically attractive otaku but then they change their description from 'gross' to 'passionate'. it all depends on how attractive you are. the fact that attractive otaku exist is infuriating to ugly or average otaku.

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>>34404289
>to be otaku you have to be 'gross'
Nope.

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>>34404307
you misunderstood what i meant by 'gross', because if you knew you wouldn't disagree

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>>34404333
Is ZUN "gross"?

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>>34404082
>I've noticed that only otaku are ever said to be "obsessed" with something. If someone watches movies all day every day, nobody says he's obsessed. Only otaku are ever "obsessed." Everything they do is "obsessive."

Consider that "otaku" is a term that replaced the former term "maniac"

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>>34404338
yes, but he's not ugly and hes productive so our perception of him changes on the surface level

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>>34404355
They're distinct from each other, and the constant memeing that otaku are "obsessed" is just Western nonsense.

>>34404365
So it's not necessary for otaku to be "gross"?

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>>34404289
That and how socially acceptable and mainstream the interest is. Love to binge watch shows on Netflix? normal. Love to Read through various different otokonoko themed manga? some shoujo or cgdct like gochimon usagi desu ka? or maybe magical girl anime like card captor sakura or madoka magica? not normal.

Society judges you, based on what's popular in the current day. So naturally you have to act accordingly and hide your interest in something if it's not socially accepted in the mainstream.

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>>34396543
>and they're fucking turning me off from Japanese media and even having a interest in Japan
if thats all it takes to turn you off from otaku culture just how much of an otaku were you to begin with?

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>>34398084
Gatekeeping DOES exist in other hobbies, retard.
A green fag isn't going to be let into mountaineering tours, and for a good reason.
The point is to keep retards that dont know what they are doing out. If you cannot understand that simple fact then you are a retard yourself.

The whole "powerlevel shitting" or whatever can be found in hobbies like cars, guns and especially literature.
People WILL talk down to you because of you buying a Honda Civic or a factory AR-15 or not having read everything by Dostojewski.

Stop talking out of your fucking ass, faggot.

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>>34400239
This site's quality has been nothing but dropping for the last 15 years too, so every one of them was right.

[Anonymous No.]

I couldn't fucking care less, go seethe pro otaku retard
t.newfag

[Anonymous No.]

no true otaku would hide their power level

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>>34404549
your wrong, I started a mahjong discord to discuss the finer points of the game with some other tenhou players. Didn't want it to be too elitist so I opened it up by leaving an invite on the mahjong soul discord, mahjong reddit and /a/.

Now things are a lot more lively, people are shitposting memes about mahjong soul characters, konosuba and other stuff. hand calculating discussions go out the window now due to all the shitposting, and it's barely even a discord about mahjong now (most people on it don't even play mahjong, little'own play at a high level on tenhou.net) but it's fine, wouldn't want to gatekeep the community, right?

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>>34398084
>people who could run an arms dealership out of their garage don't shit on people who like to shoot cans with babby's first rifle.
/k/ has entire generals dedicated to shitting on people who run anything but whatever expensive guns/gear their favorite e-celeb uses in their latest youtube video

[Anonymous No.]

>Dear /jp/ if you're not a social outcast/loser/social retard you're not a real otaku you're just a normalfag larper.

>The amount of girl " and normalfags who larp as Otaku are pissing me off and they're fucking turning me off from Japanese media and even having a interest in Japan

>The ironic thing about all this too is those fags would've been the exact same people about 10-15 years ago shitting on anime fans saying that they're weird, degenerates, etc and bullied people who liked anime/manga and Japanese culture but ever since nerd culture became mainstream normal people with normal lives now feel the need to larp as outcast/social retards and steal our media because they think its cool.

>Why do normalfags ruin everything?

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>>34404800
KYS wojakshitter

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>KYS wojakshitter

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>>34396687
I'll drink to that.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, you can be an Otaku and have a lot of friends and be very successful. But it's just that most Otaku due to their interests have no time for friendships or careers.

[Anonymous No.]

"Otaku" and "hikikomori" are not interchangeable despite what many may think

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>>34404684
you replied to the wrong guy idiot

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>>34398118
fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

this is just like how many people here misuse the word fujoshi

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>>34399476
In some cases its for better, for example i prefer 2hu to just die after ZUN is gone rather than becoming money cow to butcher for some corporate assholes.

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>>34403797

Me.

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>>34406033
no, fuck you leatherman

[Anonymous No.]

>>34404549
>A green fag isn't going to be let into mountaineering tours, and for a good reason.
It does in fact make sense to gatekeep group events when the presence of a newcomer will actually stop the group from scaling K2 or whatever because he'll fall in a crevasse and die. Consumption of otaku media is not one of those things. It's a solitary activity. Somebody watching JoJo in your vicinity doesn't impact you in literally any way.

>>34404684
>most people on it don't even play mahjong
Then you shouldn't have let them in. Nobody is accusing the "casual pretend otaku" here of not watching anime. They're claiming they watch anime at a low and inferior level because they're watching the wrong shows.

>>34404772
>/k/ has entire generals dedicated to shitting on people who run anything but whatever expensive guns/gear their favorite e-celeb uses in their latest youtube video
/k/ is also perfectly welcoming to poorfags who want to buy a nugget. The people who follow celebrities only being made fun of for being dumb as shit and buying product they don't understand, not for being new or less fanatic.

[Anonymous No.]

tomoko stinky

[Anonymous No.]

>>34407596
*sniff sniff*

GUH!
K-K-K-K-KUSOOOOOOOOOO!! *WHARRGARBL*

[Anonymous No.]

>>34407661
i can't breathe

[Anonymous No.]

>>34400239
Yes because they make shit threads and kill good ones
If you’re not going to 100% acclimate to an already existing culture don’t bother joining

[Anonymous No.]

>>34407754
>Yes because they make shit threads and kill good ones
oh no not the 90+ shitty touhou threads

we only have real quality threads here in the high quality board known as /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>34402277
Opposite lmao. Ironic shit was at its peak somewhere around ~2008.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
thank you for making this post, it made me feel like i was back in 2008 again for a moment.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>34400239
>The presence of normalfags shouldn't affect whether you enjoy a thing and if it does, that's your problem
Stopped reading there.
Post discarded. Normalfags are not welcome here and never have been.
>>34407896
Oh no, not my twitter memes thread
NAA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34408817
>Normalfags are not welcome here and never have been.
he's not whining about them coming here. he's whining about them existing IRL.

>NAA
most touhou threads in /jp/ are comically shit. they are the kinds of threads you would make if your goal was to try to make touhou look as dumb as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34408883
You don't seem to understand. The argument is "normalfags ruin everything" not "complain about Touhou for the nth time"
Look anywhere else on this site where normalfags have taken over and tell me those are high quality threads.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly the "Normalfags" just sound like a boogeyman/scapegoat for this board's problems. 99% of people on this board are degenerate and/or fucked up mentally one way or another. Retards spot just one of these rare specimens who are normal and conclude the whole board is overrun by them.

[Anonymous No.]

Normalfag above

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409163
I haven't been outside for 2 months and I don't have social media or even a discord account, but whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409215
>2 months
rookie numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409242
I had a much longer streak earlier. But anyways let's not turn this thread into a competition about who's the biggest loser, what makes you think they're more normalfags here now than before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34408973
>Look anywhere else on this site where normalfags have taken over and tell me those are high quality threads.
look in /jp/and tell me there are high quality threads here

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409293
>let's not turn this thread into a competition about who's the biggest loser
Sorry, I'm not fat.
>what makes you think they're more normalfags here now than before?
You must have ignored everything that happened since late October.
>>34409314
Tell me the last time there was a high quality thread on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409331
>You must have ignored everything that happened since late October.
Maybe cause my filters don't allow me to see shit threads/posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409215
>I haven't been outside for 2 months
congrats neither has the rest of the world

[Anonymous No.]

I found out this week that a Momoclo song was popular on ticktock. It does feel bad when retarded third world zoomers and normalfags discover japanese otaku media.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409557
not everybody is a europoor

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409331
not him but i didnt notice anything out of the ordinary for the past few months. can you post a link to the stuff you are talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409624
otaku media is basically mainstream in SEA because they don't have culture

good luck in the future

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409331
/jp/ was never good

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409147

Found the normalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34404289
>to be otaku you have to be 'gross'

This if you don't look like this guy you are not otaku. Real otaku are incels and Robots.

[Anonymous No.]

The signature Otaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>34406299
He could pass on the title of Hakurei Kannushi to one of his sons though I doubt he will

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396687
that was such a weird trend...

[Anonymous No.]

>>34399534
linux and computer shit isnt even niche anymore either ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396601
>normies
kill yourself normalfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409624
>ticktock

Cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>34410996
teh LOL XDD!!!11!

[Anonymous No.]

>>34409880
It's popular with spics which is worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>34405972
I was being sarcastic but it's all good anon, have a madoka pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>34411331
Nooooooo my beloved 2hus are being tainted by those dirty Mexicans!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

I'm convinced that half of you can't even read at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34411436
why is she speaking dorito?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34408771
This is the only sensible post in this kuso sure.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>34410996
>>34411296
what i wouldnt give to go back...

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/r9k/

[Anonymous No.]

>>34412948

Fuck off normalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>34410996
>>34411296
>>34412309
Looking back, I feel like a tool for distancing myself from this when it was at it's peak. Despite the cringe, I know most who took part in this look back at it fondly.

[Anonymous No.]

We otakuchads of /jp/ hide our powerlevel even in this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34414919
Same. I wish I could become low-inhib and stop giving a fuck about what people think about me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34415045
>otakuchads

Not a real thing.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>34399534
nowadays using windows 7 or 8.1 is more niche than linux because normalfags will shit on you for not upgrading to 10, meanwhile the same normalfags will say "I fucking love (ubuntu|mint|arch|manjaro)" (or whatever reddit distro of the month) and will have more proprietary shit installed on linux than a default windows 10 installation.
t. /g/

[Anonymous No.]

>>34413103
the “normalfag” here is you, now get out of this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34417765
>the “normalfag” here is you

No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34399476
>trying to gatekeep one of the most consumerist cultures there is
lmao, this was always coming and theres literally nothing you can do to stop it

[Anonymous No.]

>>34417849
pardon sir, who are you quoting?

[Lain No.]

>>34396543
Fundamentally, this conversation is not about otaku culture but about culture as a whole.

A lot of social labels are being stretched, not just the "otaku" label, because there's a wider identity crisis going on right now. There's a flood of posers going into the cultures of PUNKS, TECHIES, TRANS PEOPLE, GAMERS, OTAKU, et cetera. This might be because the identification with a label comes with: some internal sense of purpose in a time when purpose is scarce or difficult to grasp, an external "brand" to appeal to for the sake of getting your ideas heard (often by potential social media followings), and easy search terms to use in order to find resources or communities curated by like-minded people. This is why it grows & sells and why those sales must appropriate "otaku" terms in their messaging.

Ending the identity crisis means not only ending the fake otaku phenomenon but also calming down the political landscape and social media influencer / stan culture, both of which are also heralded by people needing a sense of direction. People just need SOMETHING to live and die for, and these subcultures are the things standing in for that SOMETHING, at least for the time being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34419081
good post anon, screencap if anybody wants it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34419081

This

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
How do you feel about this?
https://www.wmagazine.com/beauty/hime-haircut-tiktok-trend-explainer

>“It’s fluid in its sexual identity,” Palau says. “Girls and boys and anyone in between can sport it in their way. It could be super classic or it can be choppy and punky, or with really short bangs. The fact that it’s ambiguously genderless, I think, is very appealing to people now.”

[Anonymous No.]

>>34415345
People who call themselves "chads" are amongst the worst of normalfags anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396698
I have friends but I don't use anything other than 4chan. I've always disliked social media.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
>Writes giant faggoty post about "real otaku"
>Posts anime in /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>34426096

Fucking cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34426096
Who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>34397227
For post like this i still like you /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
I think gatekeeping is necessary, but I don't think having friends or a normal life off the internet should be the qualifier.

[Anonymous No.]

In all honesty I stopped caring for anime. I'm extroverted and I use to be crazy over anime and manga but after reading Berserk I realized how oversaturated and clichéd most anime/manga are nowadays. Especially the seasonal and shonen garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34429426
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>34428925
Not even Discord or IRC? How do you communicate with them during these lockdowns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34429310
People who claim to care about normalfags co-opting otaku things

[Anonymous No.]

>>34397411
Me too

[Anonymous No.]

>>34411436
Monja Japonesa... Una delicia

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
In highschool I said anime was for gay faggots and i'd never watch it. Now I jerk off to hentai. Go jump off a bridge OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>34434975
>In highschool I said anime was for gay faggots and i'd never watch it. Now I jerk off to hentai. Go jump off a bridge OP

Fuck off normalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
not to derail thread but since you seem pretty based OP in case you haven't heard they anounced another madoka movie. Will be good to have threads that aren't some SNK normie shit for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34434975
Same... exept i actually started reading/watching it, i am still a casual but i am finding enjoyment out of this and theres nothing OP can do to stop me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34435365
>casual

Fucking normalfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>34435057
mad? besides I haven't left my apartment in 2 months for anything but to go to the grocery store and gym

[Anonymous No.]

>>34435387
>I haven't left my apartment in 2 months for anything but to go to the grocery store and gym

Codvid-19 normalfags aren't outcast you fucking normalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34435365
being a casual is fine, it's when there's a place where people who aren't casuals and want to talk about stuff other than what the new seasonal is being inundated with threads by casuals who think that's all there is.

Naturally people are going to think that if you post something about hololive, kimetsu no yaiba SNK JOJO or whatever. But there's nothing wrong with enjoying anime/manga casually like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
>Otaku
I never called myself that, I might be not the most social guy but I am not an absolute retard.
people who call them selves "Otakus" are ether normalfags or autists even from the forums days

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
>those fags would've been the exact same people about 10-15 years ago shitting on anime fans
They still do. You still get called a pedo neckbeard incel by both non-anime watchers and casual anime watchers. The former just do what they do best: ostracize, the latter are either in denial themselves or legit larpers as you suggest
Everyone did this during their teen years. Pretending to be something else to fit in, that is

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
me

[Anonymous No.]

>>34412309
Wait, these weren't made by people making fun of anime fans?
I've seen them every now and then, and I always thought they were made by "ironic" redditfags or something to make fun of anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34413103
>Calls everyone they don't like a normalfag
Sounds like a newfag trying too hard to fit in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34436667
That images were made by underage retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>34430974
By going outside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34397227
>Yeah, it's annoying when people say things like "I'm really into anime" but all they can list is the most generic shit like attack on titan or MHA. Then they act like your not "really" into anime because you haven't seen whatever is the most popular shit that's been on the front page of Netflix or Crunchy roll.
Animefags were always obsessed with flavor of the season ongoings. Your 2000s Haruhi and Rozen Maiden autism wasn't any different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
Being a fakenormie has kept me alive where being a truNEET kept me dependent on my parents fuck u

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396687
the older of us have converted to fake-normieism and will fight for our way of life

[Anonymous No.]

>>34443737
Traitor! Traitor!!!! You were never a true Otaku NEET to begin with! Get out!!

[Anonymous No.]

anime has become more mainstream so more people classify themselves as weebs/otaku. i used to be a neet and i watched a ton of anime during those years but i'm basically normie tier now and barely watch anime or read manga. i'll be honest though, i always hid my powerlevel since i hated associating with the otaku crowd because, despite how cool anime was, most of you guys were disgusting freaks who ate their own boogers and smelled bad and that hasn't really changed much today. like if you see someone with an anime avatar in a game or something -- 90% chance they're retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34435503
Gayvid's not the thing keeping me inside bud

[Anonymous No.]

>>34436699

Anyone who isn't a loser/outcast shouldn't be on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34443737
>Being a fakenormie has kept me alive where being a truNEET kept me dependent on my parents fuck u

GTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>34444250
>Gayvid's not the thing keeping me inside bud

Liar

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445358
Not him but it literally does fuck all. The virus only scares the paranoid germaphobes and anyone around the age of a boomer if not older.
Nobody is going to stop me from calling one of my friends and going to the next party they have scheduled. That's all people have done since February of 2020. It's the best thing to happen to normalfags, especially people who haven't even "started their lives or careers" yet. They partied while the market crashed, they partied as the cases skyrocketed, they partied when they new the FED was printing and we're fucked in less than 20 years, they probably didn't party as much in November, but they're still partying now.

The virus isn't shit. Sorry to break it to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445428

And then they all got codvid LOL what a bunch of fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445440
I already had it and I survived. I'm willing to bet at least a fifth of them have as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445343
Sorry bro, I'm using it anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445446
>>>34445440 (You)
>I already had it and I survived. I'm willing to bet at least a fifth of them have as well.

You're still a brainlet normalfag oh you cant live without your casual sex hookups recreational drugs and rave music poor baby i feel so sorry for you (Sarcasm) I love seeing normalfags like you mentally breakdown over this shit because you cant get shitfaced it brings a outcast like me so much joy i wish people like you would all just fucking die Elliot Rodger was right you people are degenerate scum also grt the fuck out normalfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445500
words words words
TL;DR Asshurt

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445477
>Sorry bro, I'm using it anyway.

>>>/out/

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445507

squeal some more you fucking normalfag i love seeing your kind in pain you deserve this pandemic its revenge for treating us outcast like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445343
But /pol/ exists and that board is basically full of successful tall handsome right-leaning intelligent white men. How do you explain that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445500
How does it smell that far up your ass?
Also what kind of retard needs to put (sarcasm) Are you on fucking twitter or something where people use tone indicators and shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445540
>treating us outcasts like shit
>us
It's not my fault you're socially inept. I actively avoid people and I still made friends. That's a you problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445541
>But /pol/ exists and that board is basically full of successful tall handsome right-leaning intelligent white men. How do you explain that?

They are all newfags When 4chan first came out it was just a site for nerds and outcast to discus anime/manga and Japanese culture and 4chans userbase was mostly a bunch of neckbeard losers but after 2007 normalfags started coming over to the site and they completely took over by the time boards like /soc/ were created and the problem has only gotten worse overtime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445595
>what kind of retard needs to put (sarcasm) Are you on fucking twitter or something where people use tone indicators and shit?

Not everyone gets sarcasm on the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445625
This is 4chan you absolute retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445625
I simply don't care if they get it or not. Not my fault they're if they're retards and can't figure it out from the context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445606
>. I actively avoid people and I still made friends.

Being asocial isn't what makes you a outcast its being excluded from society or social life being asocial is only apart of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445642
So what great offense against society caused you to be an outcast?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445638
>This is 4chan you absolute retard

Yeah and people on 4chan are dumb not smart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445640
>I simply don't care if they get it or not. Not my fault they're if they're retards and can't figure it out from the context.

If you don't care then don't make a big deal about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445649
>So what great offense against society caused you to be an outcast?

Are you implying i did something wrong? cause i haven't i am just a autistic loser with no friends no success in life and stays in his room.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445715
Then you're just asocial. I didn't really think you did anything wrong but you implied that there was more to it than just being a social retard in >>34445642 so I figured you must have done something horrible that would make the rest of society hate you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
Have sex anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445715
Does the fact that you have no friends and no success in life not bother you somewhat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445611
Lol you probably didn't even come over to the world until after 2007.
Also isn't /soc/ just socially retarded autists with no friends trying to make friends on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445982
>Lol you probably didn't even come over to the world until after 2007.

No I've been here since 2006/2007

> isn't /soc/ just socially retarded autists with no friends trying to make friends on 4chan?

Maybe some but its mostly normalfag shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445943
Those are fighting words

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445955
>Does the fact that you have no friends and no success in life not bother you somewhat?

It does bother me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445943
>Have sex anon.

Is this all normalfags can say?

>HHHHHHHHHUUR DUUR have sex
>SEx sex sex

Why are normalfags so obsessed with sex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445933

There is more to it but that's my business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446039
>>34446052
Have sex. Seriously. It feels really good and it will solve around ~80% of your problems in life. You don't know what you're missing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446066
>Have sex. Seriously. It feels really good and it will solve around ~80% of your problems in life. You don't know what you're missing.

This is horseshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446052
because sex feels good

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446066
I WILL NOT HAVE SEX
I WILL LOVE 2D MORE THAN ANY 3D
I WILL STAY A VIRGIN
I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT NORMALFAGS THINK
I WILL BE A DISGUSTING OTAKU

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446066
stop trolling retard. my normie coworkers had sex all the time and yet they lamented the fact that they couldn't find a good longterm partner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446100
>because sex feels good

Sex should only be between 2 people who love each other casual sex is degeneracy

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446124

Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446131
Embrace raw carnal please anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446192
>Embrace raw carnal please anon

No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446210
But anon, there is nothing better than indulging in mindless sexual pleasure. Give in.to your fantasies.

[Anonymous No.]

Otaku has varied and context-specific meanings in Japanese. However the term entered the English language at a particular time and through particular flows of information across the web. It came to signify, in English, a certain westernized vision of Otaku culture. Net-dwelling outcasts of the 2000s hallucinating a purer mode of consumption. A kind of greasy ideal, embodying a greater affinity for media and an almost monastic aversion for society. The western Otaku needs the vision of his Japanese doppelganger, shunned as he is and yet more privileged to experience the esoteric and erotic fields of 2D. That anime has become popular and pedestrian in Japan and much of the world results in a breakdown for him. For him, it is no longer about actually enjoying the media, it is a mindless drive to prevent others from enjoying it. Without exclusivity the veil of asceticism is lifted and all that remains is the evidence of years wasted. It was never really about Japanese cartoons, after all this time he still cannot speak the language. From the start it has always been a way to numbly allocate his desire and avoid the pain of rejection.

This is not to say that there are not Japanese friendless NEET otaku, but there are far more Japanese otaku with normal social lives, often involving people with similar interests. This is because it signifies something frankly common and much more compatible with social living in Japanese. I think both phenomena are interesting but the western concept does not so easily adapt to changes in the media landscape. So the contradictions of his condition are cast in ever starker relief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446399
Hello Freud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446450
I prefer Lacan

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446475

Hello FBI

[Anonymous No.]

>>34396543
im a social outcast/loser/social retard i dont want to be one anymore but i will never be saved

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446500
>im a social outcast/loser/social retard i dont want to be one anymore but i will never be saved

I know how you feel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446399

Although it has taken on a more positive meaning in recent years otaku in Japan is still a negative term commonly associated with social outcast who have a obsessive interest and like to stay home someone like Tomoko from Watamote.

[Anonymous No.]

hi

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446917

Hi

[Anonymous No.]

>>34446535
But tomoko is an extrovert lesbo so yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447194
>tomoko is an extrovert lesbo so yeah

No she is an introvert who wants to be extroverted and she is actually bi.

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that you're not a true otaku if you're attractive

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447194
>>34447221
you guys haven't been keeping up, tomoko is riajuu as hell

[Anonymous No.]

You should try talking to Japanese, they use the word "otaku" much more loosely than westerners. I was called a huge otaku just for having interest in retro games and learning Japanese. It doesn't seem like a thing to aspire to for them, but a character quirk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447410
>You should try talking to Japanese, they use the word "otaku" much more loosely than westerners. I was called a huge otaku just for having interest in retro games and learning Japanese. It doesn't seem like a thing to aspire to for them, but a character quirk.

Refer to this >>34446535

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447421
Why would we defer to a random anonymous poster on /jp/ for knowledge about anything?

Watamote is literally a caricature of an otaku. Half the characters in her show are also otaku and she's the only antisocial basket case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447431
And, for that matter, she's not even that antisocial, because she has friends, goes to school, and hangs out with them after school and shit. She's pretty much an ordinary high school girl with some nerdy hobbies now, which most otaku in Japan are, minus the high school girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447421
That doesn't debunk anything I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447431
>>34447456

Takumi Nishijou is another example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447456
>she's not even that antisocial, because she has friends, goes to school, and hangs out with them after school and shit.

Like i said she is an introvert who wants to be extroverted also there literally episodes in the anime about nothing except her just sitting in her room doing nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447509
Why not use some examples of *real people* who are otaku instead of fictional ones? People in Japan are not actually like your favorite anime characters. Almost everybody who works in the anime industry is an otaku from the directors on down and they all manage to successfully leave the house and go to work and talk to people and have friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447720
>Almost everybody who works in the anime industry is an otaku from the directors on down and they all manage to successfully leave the house and go to work and talk to people and have friends.

No those people are just normalfags that want to make money the average Japanese otaku looks like pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34447770
>No those people are just normalfags that want to make money
Animators make absolutely jack shit for money. They would make more working at a convenience shop. Nobody goes into it for the money.

>the average Japanese otaku looks like pic related.
The average Japanese otaku looks like the average Japanese person except a little more unstylish. The average person who visits or booths at Comiket is not fat. God knows where you're getting your knowledge of otaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34445511
Ironic. Frogposting and telling anybody to get out. This place is really fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>34449864

I am not being ironic

[Anonymous No.]

>>34451125
Yeah, that's what I think is ironic

[Anonymous No.]

>>34397227
>Those same people joke about how they "know the numbers" of different hentai and how degenerate they are, but those same people are repulsed by the idea of loli or trap hentai.

at least you're not going outside, gay pedo.

[Anonymous No.]

<span class="sjis">　　　　　　　>>34415045
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　　　　　　　　（　´Д｀） >We otakuchads
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.　 ＿＿__　　　　 ∩ （　´∀｀）∥ Revere /jp/, expel the niwaka
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>>34397227
>Those same people joke about how they "know the numbers" of different hentai
And the numbers are always from nhentai and the hentai in question is some popular entry level garbage

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>>34396543
I used to buy NGE VHS tapes back in the 90s. Now I pretend I don't like Anime. Who wants to be an Otaku?

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>>34453824
pretty much.

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>>34453824

How the fuck do people even use nhentai? Retards can't tag for shit.

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half of this thread hasn't lurked on /jp/ more than a month

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>>34457668
Anything with Tomoko in the OP is a crossboarder thread.

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>>34457668
>half of this thread hasn't lurked on /jp/ more than a month

No.

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>>34452372

Learn how to asci dumbass.

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>>34448010
>Animators make absolutely jack shit for money. They would make more working at a convenience shop. Nobody goes into it for the money.

Proof or GTFO

>The average Japanese otaku looks like the average Japanese person except a little more unstylish. The average person who visits or booths at Comiket is not fat. God knows where you're getting your knowledge of otaku.

You're just a normalfag and those people are normalfag larpers.

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>>34460650
>Proof or GTFO
The fact that you don't know that animators make fuck-all for salary after god knows how many years watching anime reveals that you're ignorant as shit about the way any of the shit you watch gets made.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/24/business/japan-anime.html

>You're just a normalfag and those people are normalfag larpers.
You're a literal fucking retard larping as an otaku because you've made being a complete fucking loser central to your identity, except you don't like the identity of "loser" so you try to claim the mantle of "otaku" instead, trying to seize it from people who distribute doujinshi for Comiket because they're not fat retards like you.

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>>34460650
>Proof or GTFO
The fact that you don't know that animators make fuck-all for salary after god knows how many years watching anime reveals that you're ignorant as shit about the way any of the shit you watch gets made.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/24/business/japan-anime.html

>You're just a normalfag and those people are normalfag larpers.
The notion that you're an otaku because you look like the fatass that you gave as pic related, or because you stay at home and have no friends, but people who distribute doujinshi they've made at Comiket are not otaku because they fail some arbitrary tests you've come up with is dumb as shit. The only person larping as an otaku here is you.

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>>34460650
>Proof or GTFO
You're probably the reason why /a/ is full of newfags now.

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>>34419081

Normalfags have been hijacking nerd culture for the last 10 years they think its cool to be a social reject when its not. Things like anime/manga Japanese culture table top board games Star Wars and even internet culture itself to a certain extent were mostly associated with nerdy neckbeard autistic outcast about 10-15 years ago and liking/participating in these things wasn't cool back then but now we have all these normalfags hijacking nerd culture and trying to fit in because nerd culture became mainstream.

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>>34462331
>You're probably the reason why /a/ is full of newfags now.

/a/ is full of fake and ironic weebs like the anime man.

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>>34462292
>The notion that you're an otaku because you look like the fatass that you gave as pic related, or because you stay at home and have no friends, but people who distribute doujinshi they've made at Comiket are not otaku because they fail some arbitrary tests you've come up with is dumb as shit. The only person larping as an otaku here is you.

That's what otaku means you retard it is a negative term in Japan it means a loser introvert who stays at home has a obsessive hobby/interest to the point where it is unhealthy.

>(in Japan) a young person who is obsessed with computers or particular aspects of popular culture to the detriment of their social skills.

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>>34463149
>That's what otaku means you retard it is a negative term in Japan it means a loser introvert who stays at home has a obsessive hobby/interest to the point where it is unhealthy.
Otaku generally are lesser in social skill than ordinary people. But "stays at home" is shit you added to it because you're an illiterate retard.

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>>34463405

Most people who are lesser in social skills stay at home plus taku means to say at home. 宅 means home you fucking normalfag.

https://jisho.org/search/home

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>>34447283
>reminder that you're not a true otaku if you're attractive

this

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>>34463497
>Most people who are lesser in social skills stay at home plus taku means to say at home. 宅 means home you fucking normalfag.
Otaku is a second-person pronoun, you absolute fucking retard. It's what otaku would use to refer to each other in conversations they were having IRL - you know, actual fucking social interaction, taking place between people who have gone outside, because that's where you met people before the internet took off.

You don't know shit about otaku. You don't know shit about the history of otaku. You're a dumb larping faggot who thought it would be cool to identify as an otaku despite not knowing shit about it because you get high off pretending you're better than other people.

Actual otaku don't give a shit about their identity as otaku. What's important to them is the *actual interest* which they're obsessing over to the exclusion of everything else. Someone like OP who says that the presence of idiots around him is enough to "turn him off from Japanese media and Japan" never really gave a shit about that media in the first place, he's just in it for the identity, even dumber and more shallow than someone who thinks they're an otaku because they watched JoJo twice

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just gonna
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>>34463530

Reddit is for normalfags like this guy >>34463405

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>>34463546
You're a horrifying dumb shit who's pretending to be part of a subculture who he doesn't know shit about.

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>>34463522
>Otaku is a second-person pronoun, you absolute fucking retard. It's what otaku would use to refer to each other in conversations they were having IRL - you know, actual fucking social interaction, taking place between people who have gone outside, because that's where you met people before the internet took off.

Fuck off boomer how old are you 42? There have always been recluses and outcast even before the internet hell hikikomori has been a thing since the 70s in Japan.

>You don't know shit about otaku. You don't know shit about the history of otaku. You're a dumb larping faggot who thought it would be cool to identify as an otaku despite not knowing shit about it because you get high off pretending you're better than other people.

Well you're wrong but believe whatever you want faggot.

>Actual otaku don't give a shit about their identity as otaku. What's important to them is the *actual interest* which they're obsessing over to the exclusion of everything else. Someone like OP who says that the presence of idiots around him is enough to "turn him off from Japanese media and Japan" never really gave a shit about that media in the first place, he's just in it for the identity, even dumber and more shallow than someone who thinks they're an otaku because they watched JoJo twice

Drink bleach and an hero normalfag i am not pretending fuck off.

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>>34463565
>You're a horrifying dumb shit who's pretending to be part of a subculture who he doesn't know shit about.

No that would be you you butthurt normalfag.

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>>34463594
>There have always been recluses and outcast even before the internet hell hikikomori has been a thing since the 70s in Japan.
And the term "otaku" wasn't created to describe them, because the term was to describe the kind of people who were visiting Comiket - a social event - in 1983. Hikikomori and otaku are not the same. They're not even soft synonyms. They're completely distinct phenomenon. Just because you are an outcast and a recluse does not make you an otaku, unless the reason you are one is because you were so obsessed with a single particular interest that you reoriented your whole life around it.

>Well you're wrong but believe whatever you want faggot.
I _know_ you're wrong, and so does everyone else who has known about the otaku subculture for more than a few years.

>Drink bleach and an hero normalfag i am not pretending fuck off.
Why would I give a shit what someone like you has to say? You're not a otaku. You're not anything at all. You're a retarded normalfag who's insecure about his lack of identity so he decided to larp as an otaku on the internet despite not giving a shit about Japanese media.

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>>34463597
You're a dumb larping faggot missing the singular quality you need to be an otaku - the overriding interest in a topic into which you've subsumed your entire life - so you decided to substitute "being an antisocial loser" instead. That doesn't make you an otaku. Social deficiencies in otaku are secondary to an obsessive interest, and don't make you an otaku without that obsessive interest any more than buying a white cane makes you blind.

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>>34463624
>Hikikomori and otaku are not the same. They're not even soft synonyms. They're completely distinct phenomenon.

No shit

>I _know_ you're wrong, and so does everyone else who has known about the otaku subculture for more than a few years.

Believe whatever you want.

>Why would I give a shit what someone like you has to say? You're not a otaku. You're not anything at all. You're a retarded normalfag who's insecure about his lack of identity so he decided to larp as an otaku on the internet despite not giving a shit about Japanese media.

You're just mad that i called your normalfag ass out i am not even a normalfag because i don't have a successful life that's what a normalfag is.

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>>34463642

I have many obsessive interest,

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>>34463670
>You're just mad that i called your normalfag ass out i am not even a normalfag because i don't have a successful life that's what a normalfag is.
Okay, you're not a normalfag, you're just an unsuccessful normalfag. Awesome. You still don't know shit about otaku.

>Believe whatever you want.
I'll continue to believe the definition of otaku used by actual Japanese people. No doubt you'll continue to use one you've pulled out of your ass.

>>34463689
>I have many obsessive interest,
Nobody can have "many" obsessive interests. Anyone with a ton of interests is a casual in all of them.

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>>34463697
>unsuccessful normalfag.

No such thing

>I'll continue to believe the definition of otaku used by actual Japanese people. No doubt you'll continue to use one you've pulled out of your ass.

Japanese people are not right about everything.

>Nobody can have "many" obsessive interests

Sure they can.

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>>34463724
>No such thing
The term "failed normalfag" has been used on 4chan for years.

>Japanese people are not right about everything.
One thing the Japanese people are right about, by definition, is what Japanese words mean.

>Sure they can.
There's only so much fucking water in your tank. If you spread it wide across a lot of different interests you can only be so deep in any one of them.

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>>34463746
>The term "failed normalfag" has been used on 4chan for years.

Failed normalfag usually describes someone who used to be successful but failed later on due to like mental illness.

> One thing the Japanese people are right about, by definition, is what Japanese words mean.

Not all the time NEET and hikikomori often get incorrectly used even by Japanese people even the Japanese get meanings of words wrong.

>There's only so much fucking water in your tank. If you spread it wide across a lot of different interests you can only be so deep in any one of them.

Fair point i guess.

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>>34396543
Have you ever tried going outside? And talking to someone while showering on your way to therapy and getting your haircut with confidence?

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>>34396543
“Im sorry to hear that.... LET ME BRAG ABOUT MY HOOBAND/bioyfriend”- some fat cunt on r/raisedbynarcissists

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>>34463809
>Have you ever tried going outside? And talking to someone while showering on your way to therapy and getting your haircut with confidence?

No.

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>>34463780
>Failed normalfag usually describes someone who used to be successful but failed later on due to like mental illness.
A failed normalfag is anyone who tried to be normal and failed. People who aren't any kind of normalfag, failed or otherwise, are people who never wanted to be "normally successful" in the first place: friends, job, relationship. 4chan is awash in failed normalfags.

Some people are otaku but not failed normalfags: they are obsessive about their hobby but are still able to keep up a job and social life despite that. Some people are failed normalfags but not otaku, like meth addicts and shit. And a lot of people are both: they wanted to be "normally successfully" but they couldn't so they spend their whole life on hobbies instead.

There are lots of things about otaku that are worth respecting, particularly, dedication. This goes for both "creation otaku" - those who actually participate in the creation of media, who get the highest honors - but also "consumption otaku" who have managed to cultivate an immense depth of knowledge and appreciation of something. But what's being respected here is the dedication, not the label. Anyone who is using otaku as a status symbol or a source of validation is probably doing something wrong.

>Not all the time NEET and hikikomori often get incorrectly used even by Japanese people even the Japanese get meanings of words wrong.
Individual Japanese people will fuck up words, but in general, if Japanese society at large agrees on what a word means, it means that thing, because that's how language works.

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>>34463848
>Some people are otaku but not failed normalfags: they are obsessive about their hobby but are still able to keep up a job and social life despite that.
Sorry, this was wrong, this is for otaku who are basically normalfags. Otaku who aren't normalfags (or failed normalfags) of any kind are people who, from the beginning, never gave a shit about friends or relationship or job or anything like that in the first place: all they ever wanted out of life was dedication to media, and they got it.

These people are very rare, but they're out there.

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>>34463848
>A failed normalfag is anyone who tried to be normal and failed. People who aren't any kind of normalfag, failed or otherwise, are people who never wanted to be "normally successful" in the first place: friends, job, relationship. 4chan is awash in failed normalfags.

You don't seem to understand what being a social outcast means its not about being a non-conformist type and living your own life and making your own choices and meaning you never wanted to be "normally successful" in the first place no deep down most outcast want to be normal and be accepted by others and being a social outcast means you are a loser who is excluded from society or social life a failed normalfag was once successful they had a job friends sex ect. but lost it later on and failed due to things like mental illness or addiction.

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>>34463848
You are not wrong, but it wasnt because of being a social retard.

It was parents scapegoating over social media and smearing me to anyone who would listen.

Always only cared about the media or games and still cant understand the normfags obsession with missing their parents, being homesick, and how normfags cant be left alone for more than 5 minutes before they contemplate cutting their wrists in full view of you because no one gave them any immediate validation in 15 minutes on social media.

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>>34463950
>in the first place no deep down most outcast want to be normal and be accepted by others
And most social outcasts are failed normalfags. /jp/ has a long history of respecting people who never wanted to be normalfags in the first place (or at least, pretending to do so).

>a failed normalfag was once successful they had a job friends sex ect. but lost it later on and failed due to things like mental illness or addiction.
This is not how I've seen it used on 4chan in the last ten or so years but definitions change. Who the fuck knows.

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>>34463964
>And most social outcasts are failed normalfags

Debatable a good chunk of them may actually more fall under the Cyborg term.

>This is not how I've seen it used on 4chan in the last ten or so years but definitions change. Who the fuck knows.

It was always used this way its just the definition you are describing was more common place a few years ago.

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>>34463962
Are you a student? Most grown adults don't think about their parents or the house they grew up in more than a few times a year. The vast majority of adults I know rarely use social media at all, even though a lot of them did when they were younger.

By the time you're an adult the shit you see on social media doesn't matter and your parents have receded from your life. Most normalfags from millennial-era onwards have only a few small groups of friends, their "social media" consists of a few group chats, they might or might not have a partner, and that's the end of it. Nobody gives a shit anymore.

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>>34463950
There is no worse feeling lonelier than a shitty relationship with a GF after a life like yours. Its far colder than what you feel now and leaves far worse scars years later.

Turns out i wasnt a “social retard” like the faggots here love to heavily project with with their pseudo science bullshit.

I just went to college far away and finally had some semblance of a normal life with friends and none of that chickenshit anime protag stuff that pisses me off these days.

Was it scary as fuck to have a first kiss and date? Yeah. But I was stronger for it unlike the mgtards and normfags will tell you. “You dont need water food or air to stay alive”-some normfag

Will be scary at first as you were never allowed to be a person where you grew up and those faggots never change.

Honestly believe its the environment that is the problem and not the actually neets themselves most of the time.

How the fuck can you be a true loser when you never got a chance to win?

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>>34464002
You really underestimate the damage abusive cunts can do to your life with neglect and constant gaslighting.

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>>34464044
If your parents fucked you up you're not to blame for it, but the only person who can take the lead in unfucking yourself is yourself. A lot of people have upbringings that lead to all sorts of being fucked up in life. If you didn't have a normal growing up and "coming of age" in your actual youth, you only have a chance at the bonus round: "coming of age" as an adult, coming to terms with your life and your place in the world well into your 20s or 30s or 40s. Some people never do. I probably didn't.

I hate recommending manga in situations like these because they're probably a lot worse than I remember them being and the life advice is probably not actually any good, but you could read Kodomo no Jikan if you haven't already. It's got a bunch of adults who never grew up properly and very pedo, you might like it.

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This thread gave me AIDS.

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>>34463816
>Reddit
Get out.

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>>34464002
> Most grown adults don't think about their parents or the house they grew up in more than a few times a year.
Really? I think of my parents pretty frequently. Do most people really not give a shit about their family any more?

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>>34469572
Lots of people do more than that but I'd say more than once a week is fairly unusual among Americans. Maybe I just know the wrong people.