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Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Higanbana, RGD and all other 07th Expansion works.

07th Expansion archive: https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

Scorpion Charm: https://pastebin.com/HdzXPPTF

>> No.31453786

Miracles and certainty are two major themes in the wtc series. They were introduced in Higurashi as natural counterparts and were further developed throughout Umineko and Ciconia.
So why haven't we gotten anything similar in addition to those two leitmotifs?

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>>31453786
Too lazy to finish reading your post.
The only miracle I care about is doing a sexual activity with Bern.

>> No.31453889

>>31453857
That's not a miracle, that's certainty with the right equipment.

>> No.31453898
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>>31453857

>> No.31453939

Just finished reading the 8th part of Higurashi. I checked the guide for the rest of Higurashi arcs, but I don't know where exactly I should go from here.

>> No.31453978
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>>31453889
>that's certainty with the right equipment.
Teach me your ways, Lambdadelta-sama.

>> No.31454101
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Sleep peacefully, my most beloved whore, Ritsuko.

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>>31453978
Having sex is never a miracle if you are determined enough to make it happen with absolute certainty!

>> No.31454184

>>31453939
Saikoroshi first, after that it's really up to you. you could watch the anime I guess.

>> No.31454201
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>>31454155
It is decided then. I will definitely become a witch and cum inside Bern.
I'm glad I never stopped grinding the Grimoire readings.

>> No.31454208

>>31454155
dangerous advice from lambdadelta-sama

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>>31454201

>> No.31454608

somehow I get the feeling that if we were to make another poll now Bern would win
what happened these past couple threads

>> No.31454687

>>31454608
Bern has been visiting people's dreams.

>> No.31454708

>>31453786
we got objective truth vs the right to choose what you believe personally, and with RGD and Ciconia there's also the game theory leitmotif with the desire for peace vs the need to use force anyway

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>>31454687
I'm still waiting for her visit then.

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>>31454710
She might send Erika instead.

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>>31454781
I wouldn't mind that.

>> No.31454941

Have there been any official Western releases of RGD?

>> No.31455201

>>31454708
The walls of peace were truly a great take on the philosophy of modern warfare. If Ryu07 were born in a different time he'd surely become a famous general or warlord.

>> No.31455246
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31455246

Hey, I'm lost what should I download if I want to play umineko with og sprites and voices

>> No.31455307

Man I'm glad Tsubasa isn't canon there's no way Battler want's to fuck his entire family

>> No.31455325

>>31455201
I'm sure you're being ironic, but the walls of peace spam itself is just something the soldiers are indoctrinated to believe, it's meant to be contradictory and shallow. The interesting part is seeing how peace unravels and conflict begins to escalate, even when no one desires all-out war, how individually insignificant human vices are magnified and projected onto the global stage and so on.

>> No.31455449

>>31455246
help...

>> No.31455450
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>>31455307
>there's no way Battler want's to fuck his entire family
Ihihihi~

>> No.31455483

>>31455449
I NEED SOMEBODY

>> No.31455497

>>31455307
Well ya know what they say: Incest runs in the family.

>> No.31455553

>>31455483
don't

>> No.31455721

Newfag here, I wanna play the VN.
is hou a remake including all the arcs of
higurashi, higurashi kai and higurashi rei or is it something else?

>> No.31456191

>>31455721
I have no idea what the different versions in the mega are about desu, we should really make that more clear.
I just downloaded the "Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni + Kai" version with voicepatch and ps2 sprites from nyaa.

>> No.31456223

>>31455721
Onikakushi, Watanagashi, Tatarigoroshi, Himatsubushi, Meakashi, Tsumihoroboshi, Minagoroshi, Matsuribayashi and Saikoroshi (+ maybe Kokoroiyashi but it's manga), these are canon

>> No.31456555

I've been out of the loop. Did we get Ciconia phase 2 yet?

>> No.31456681

>>31456555
No

>> No.31456781

>>31454941
Nope.

>> No.31456791
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>>31456555
Anon...

>> No.31456832

>>31456681
>>31456791
What? There couldn't have been a better year to write than 2020. What was this faggot doing?

>> No.31456955

>>31456832
>November 8, 2020
>Phase 2 of Ciconia has been delayed indefinitely due to concerns over its subject matter and the current pandemic situation.

>> No.31457002

>>31456955
What a fucking bullshit

>> No.31457004

>>31456832
I am willing to bet he has finished writing phase 2 but decided not to release it this year, due to >>31456955

>> No.31457028

>>31457002
Sure you may think its bullshit but Japanese people are really autistic when it comes to real life tragedies.

>> No.31457071

>>31457028
It wasn't even that big tragedy. More people die every in Brazil from gunfire and we never stop making movies about guns.

>> No.31457124

>>31453786
They're both in Ciconia, they just haven't been explicitly named yet. Remember that Miracles an Certainty only show up explicitly later on in Umineko and Higurashi.
For starters, we've got the Kings, prophesies, murder program, and war(Certainty) and the lab, pandora, gauntlet knights, and Sekmet/Toujirou(Miracles).
They're engaged against eachother, but in phase one it's extremely difficult to actually see the game they're playing since there's so much noise on the board. All we can tell is that there is some certain bad end future, and two sides are fighting against it, one using the power of fate, the other the power of miracles.

>> No.31457140

Ange... in a diaper

>> No.31457166
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>>31457140
Awful fetish. Leave.

>> No.31457200

>>31457140
Is this.... a... a SCAT POST? YEW SO GROSS!! What sort of suck fuck are you???

>> No.31457205

>>31456832
Japs think backwards since they're on the other side of the planet. They don't follow the basic model of hype-matching for some insane reason. Any western author would be chomping at the bit to release an outbreak story right now, and will be cramming in epidemics and bioterrorism into anything that doesn't already have it and rushing to get it out the door before the heat dies down.

>> No.31457208

>>31457071
the tragedy of corona isn't really the death though, socially, culturally, economically, etc. it has been a literal earth-shattering event (or rather, the reaction is). I certainly feel more impacted by it than brazilian wildfires or whatever.

>> No.31457299

Me... slurping the diaper

>> No.31457448

javascript:; save us

>> No.31457861

How kino would it be if phase 2 started with two players literally setting up the 'gameboard', confirming that Ciconia is a video game in a video game?

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>>31457448
>>>/w/eb+design+with+javascript:;

>> No.31457940

>>31457861
Yeah let' start it by cheapening the whole thing.

>> No.31458167

>>31457940
You just don't get it...

>> No.31458255

>>31458167
Do you think you were the first to think of the 'simulation inside a simulation' idea?

>> No.31458280

>>31456832
He's milking Higurashi

>> No.31458628

>>31458255
Yes, actually.

>> No.31458924

wait if magic isn't real how the fuck did Ikuko Hachijo use the red truth in the real world

>> No.31459057

>>31458924
Magic is real.

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>>31458924
>>31459057
>>>/m/agic+is+not+real

>> No.31459123

>>31458924
ange's story is part of the catbox. the real ange died when she jumped off the skycraper (bern even said something along the lines of "if you were to jump you would certainly die and no miracle could save you").

>> No.31459556

>>31459123
Doesn't she step back and get caught? Or get caught by an awning or something?

>> No.31459594
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Yo I just finished watching all of Higurashi, including the recent Gou episode. I want to read the VN but I dont want to play through all the stuff that I've already seen. Where should I start? Which Higurashi parts should I get?

>> No.31459732

>>31459123
btw, the reason Ange can become part of the catbox is that as far as the public records are concerned she goes "missing" at that point. Ange would obviously not have specified an heir, but as long as she just disappears Okonogi is still in charge of her assets and he'll have time to sort things out with the Sumedaras.
>>31459556
the moment she steps off the roof and has her first conversation with bern she's replaced with a fictionalized version of herself, and everything that happens from that point on is part of the catbox.

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The threads has been way too fast. I can't keep up. When will the board become slow again?

>> No.31459766

>>31459739
when the holo-idols die

>> No.31459793

>>31459556
Don't listen to goats, she gets caught in safenet and lives the "Magic End" route.

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>>31459739
Never, not with the h******** spam.

>> No.31459853

>>31457140
I knew it would come down to this.

>> No.31460054
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Ushiromiya Ange . . . always dies . . . in 1998!! The Ange of the future is a metafictional illusion created by her mourning brother! . . . . . . Ange suicide theory.

>> No.31460156

Ange wearing diapers theory

>> No.31460189

>>31460156
no

>> No.31460231
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>>31460054
No, Ange lives and becomes a successful entrepreneur in web design.

>> No.31460241

Nothing wrong with being a Goat.

>> No.31460290

>>31460189
Why

>> No.31460318
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>>31460231
I'm just enjoying the book in my own way.
Imagine crashing the golden land with your fellow goat noble bros from /jp/

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>>31460318
Can we not crash Golden Land and instead rape Erika?

>> No.31460498
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>>31460389
Why not both?

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>>31460498
I don't want to hurt Maria, I would probably switch sides just for her.

>> No.31460809

>>31460692
You lack maternal spirit!

>> No.31460943

>>31460318
the golden land couldn't withstand that kind of twisted logic

>> No.31461168

>>31460692
Why the pirate hat?

>> No.31461224
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>>31461168
I just want to post Erikas.

>> No.31461233

>>31461168
because Ryukishi watched At Worlds End at some point while writing Requiem

>> No.31461587

answer my question fags

>> No.31461675

>>31461587
we can't
we're useless, we're all useless!

>> No.31461711

>>31461587
Which question?

>> No.31461870

>>31461711
"I just finished watching all of Higurashi, including the recent Gou episode. I want to read the VN but I dont want to play through all the stuff that I've already seen. Where should I start? Which Higurashi parts should I get?"

>> No.31462272

>>31461870
Read through all the VNs, the anime skips a lot of stuff. I would just read everything later on once the Higu burn out is over.
Maybe I would skim through some of the console arcs?
Play Daybreak?
Have you read Hou and Rei?

>> No.31462292
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Do you like shortstack lolis?

>> No.31462433
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Math >>>>>>>> Literature

>> No.31462485 [DELETED] 

>It's all Battler's POV

>> No.31462528
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>it's all Battler's POV

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>Kanon is a man, Bro u gay

>> No.31463096

>>31455246
Mangagamer version.

>> No.31463259

Damn it feels so good not being a goat

>> No.31463396

What is it about Ushiromiya Ange that turns men into animals?

>> No.31463547

>>31462433
Math is literally just an abstract toolset.

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>>31463396
Everything about her.

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>>31463571

>> No.31463682

>>31463547
Language is just a toolset abstracted by dirty peasants

>> No.31463734

>>31456955
>was going to name the globohomo and had to stop

>> No.31463747
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>>31463670
Don't post Dlanor, she also makes me horny.

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>>31463747

>> No.31464037
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>>31463826
Aah. . .

>> No.31464097
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I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really love Dlanor.

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>>31464097
I also really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really love Dlanor.
Excellent Taste.

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Ryukishi is unironically probably drinking wine and crying.
Must be pretty heart broken about Type Kek giving no fucks about Tsukihime.

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>>31464975
>When the Ciel homage is closer to the original than the remake

>> No.31465210

>>31464975
Didn't they just finish the PV for the remake?

>> No.31465505
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>>31465210
No they have done jack shit.
The PV was leaked like 9-7 years ago. What a joke of a company.
Sad to see that they treat their most influential work like shit.
>>31465085
>When the Ciel homage is closer to the original than the remake
true irony.

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>>31465085
I wanted to read Tsukihime because of the crippling lack of Chie doujins. I'm pissed that they raped the design this badly.

>> No.31465834

>>31465702
What the FUCK is that? Hahahahahaha!

>> No.31465940
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>>31465834
Blue Mash.

>> No.31466459
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testing

>> No.31466504
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>>31466459
>who are you quoting?
lole

>> No.31466536

>>31466459
You think he actually felt anything?

>> No.31466551

>>31466536
his hands definitely felt good

>> No.31466583

>>31466504
Useless rabbit.

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>>31466583
Nooo she failed at life lole!
She needs help!

>> No.31466682

>>31461870
you're a really massive fag and you've ruined the series for yourself. Also you shouldnt even be in these threads until you've read higurashi and umineko

>> No.31467040
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Well?

>> No.31468311

>think about ange
>get horny

>> No.31468412

>think about dlanor
>feel HAPPY

>> No.31468494

>think about beatrice
>start crying

>> No.31470180

realistically how do I get Erika to be my girlfriend

>> No.31470287
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>>31470180
Find Erika IRL and be smart like Battler.
Also chopsticks.

>> No.31471271

Erika is a teenage girl. She wouldn't stand a chance against any anon in this thread

>> No.31471340

https://youtu.be/k12klkdqmZI

Phase 2 preview! Fucking finally!

>> No.31471366

>>31471271
>t. Anon who was found tied up with tape and chopsticks up his arse

>> No.31471385

>>31471366
>My INT is superior. I'm sure to win

>> No.31471585

Most disgusting otaku here could easily force Erika into recieving her due punishment. She's a bratty, haughty teenage girl. Physically speaking, she doesn't stand a chance against a grown man. Do you think she knows this?

>> No.31471806

>>31471585
She doesn't care about being physically humiliated as long as she gets the intellectual win. She's too smart to ever say something that could be proven wrong.

>> No.31471882

So what was Jeanne talking about when she said they needed to maie a child disappear? Does she call young mafiosos "child" or were they literally planning to kidnap someone's kid and sent them back in pieces inside a plastic bag?

>> No.31472182

>>31471806
She'll also be intellectually humiliated. No girl who has been thoroughly and deservingly punished against her will by gross men like that could ever keep up such posturing ever again. It's a major logic error! What do you think, everyone?

>> No.31472291

>>31454101
oh anima effimera....

>> No.31472392

>>31454101
How does she feel about Nina being a much higher class whore at half her age?

>> No.31472536

>>31472392
Imagine being outclassed as a hooker, outclassed as a criminal, outclassed in the tits department, out-hairypussied and also outlived by a hecka cute underage brat?

>> No.31472724

>>31472392
Rina-san chose the life of the whore because she wanted to. She loves toying with basedboys and taking her pimp's huge dick every day. She has no dignity and doesn't care.

Nina is actually the humiliatee here. She's an honest girl who had to throw away her pride and become a whore out of necessity. It probably took her several tries to get over the humiliation. She's also damning her beautiful soul to Hell by aiding the mafia, which is more insidious than being straight up evil to begin with.

>> No.31472743

>>31472182
Erika is just a closet pervert who enjoys intercourse with ugly men.

>> No.31472830

>>31472392
Ritsuko got money from Renaのmanlet dad without even fucking him. That's high class whoring.

>> No.31473070

>>31472392
"Nina" doesn't even exist as a whore in the Higurashi timeline. She's one of the middle aged Hinamizawa villagers whose husbands got ensnared by Ritsuko. So she's actually a fucking loser compared to her.

>> No.31473660

What's the Umineko equivalent of each character in Higurashi?

>> No.31473725

>>31473660
Bernkastel is a part of Rika, Lambdadelta might be related to Takano but also references Satoko.
Other than that, they are separated worlds.

>> No.31473817

>>31466682
I want to say that yes, being introduced to the Anime first is a mistake. When it came out I knew nothing about it, but a friend I used to know IRL wanted me to watch this and I liked it considerably. However by 2009, missing that, I wanted to read the VN and it felt like I already fucked up big time. I only started reading it recently again because it's been that long since I touched anything 07th expansion related, but I will never not regret having watched it first. I just finished Himatsubushi and I still kick myself over it.

>> No.31473857

>>31473725
Okonogi is Okonogi. Also, I think Amakusa is Amakusa.

>> No.31473982

>>31454608
Bernfags are way more vocal than the Lambdakeks. There again, the last poll started on /v/, then included multiple fragments.
Of course there's also the fact that not everyone who voted necessarily has either Lambda or Bern as favorite, so there's probably many Bernfags but more people with Lambda ranked higher in their lists.

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I don't trust this look; it's so menacing. What does she have planned?

>> No.31475866

>>31475336
Looks like a game of guess which equipment s/he is packing

>> No.31476054

>>31475866
Doesn't matter because I'm plowing her ass whether she got a tackle box or a fishin' pole.

>> No.31476546
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>>31476054
Ultra manly

>> No.31477082

>>31475336
That particular collar looks very lewd and degrading

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This is now a Bern thread.

>> No.31477933

Blueyao's wording about "predictions" of the future remind me of Rika's lines from Minagoroshi.

>> No.31477988

>>31477082
It approaches Kairi levels of choker lewdness.

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It actually says "Irie" here. Does this mean Irie clinic is a real place?

>> No.31478255

>>31478141
I've always wondered if the original pictures of the OG BGs were ever released/found.

>> No.31478272

>>31478141
It's edited. Same thing with Takano Clinic in Saikoroshi.

>> No.31478396

>>31478272
Damn, he actually brothered changing the kanji for the Saikoroshi version of the background? That's nice.

>> No.31478646

>>31477988
There's nothing lewd about Kairi's choker, she's a child with fashion sense and that's it.

>> No.31478674
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hanyuu is SERBIAN

>> No.31478793

>>31478646
The whole point of her character in the first game is that she's a bit slutty and caused the whole rivalry between the other two with her innocent cockteasing. So the choker is part of it whether she realizes it or not.

>> No.31478898

>>31478793
Did we play the same game?
I never fot the impression that Kairi was slutty.
Or are you baiting me hard?

>> No.31478906

>>31477988
>>31478646
Kairi's choker is made of a soft material that can absorb her sweat, which automatically makes it more lewd than Meow's dog collar.

>> No.31478995

>>31478906
Meow's collar has a shock function built in and serves for the sheer purpose of plunging Miyao's remaining male dignity into the depths, to show him that he will never reach the same status of real men like Jayden.
I'd say it's pretty lewd as well.

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>>31475336
Why does japanese think putting belts everywhere is the peak of character design?

>> No.31479026

>>31478898
It's implied in her interactions with Sora and Riku, her fashion sense, her facial expressions early in the game and many other things. People just don't notice because they are too focused on the other characters and because Nomura went gay after this game and started retconning her personality and importance.

She wasn't a bad person, but her playful teasing created a massive rivalry between the two former friends, making their friendship strained and awkward by the time the game starts. This ends with Riku, who had become a chad to impress her, willingly letting a demon possess his body just so he can be the one to save her and beat Sora. Dude lost his fucking mind over Kairi liking Sora.

>> No.31479100

>>31479026
I might have to rethink my take on Kingdom hearts completely.

>> No.31479130

>>31478906
Just like Mion's holster absorbs her armpit sweat?

>> No.31479150

>>31478898
Also, her design and hairstyle is literally early 2000s scene/emo shit, which is inherently lewd. She even combines that with beach clothes that expose her belly button.

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RIKA WATCH OUT

>> No.31479419

>>31479150
Imagine a girl so pathetic and emo that she has no female friends and only hangs out with two male "friends" who only befriended her because they want to pump her full of cum.

She literally has no real friends.

>> No.31479581

>>31479419
Would be pretty hot desu.
Imagine breaking her heart by telling her that you'd abandon her if she didn't suck your cock.

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>>31479026
>>31479100
>be 14 year old Kairi
>be super slutty and tease two kids for years
>their old friendship grows distant because they are competing for your love
>tease Sora a bit too much and ignore Riku
>Riku thinks he needs to be even more of a chad and goes fucking insane with darkness
>tries to murder Sora and gets himself possessed by a demon
>spend months inside Sora's heart trying to communicate with him through visions and seeing everything he does and feels
>turns out that Sora really loved you and you've been acting like a cocktease without realizing it
>meanwhile Riku sniffs your unconscious body in weekly humiliation rituals meant to cure his unrequited crush
>finally get your unbathed-for-weeks human body back after edgy boy almost murdered Sora
>Sora is lost in space and Riku is trapped in hell, all because of your sluttiness
>Nomura retcons the universe
>one year later, you finally meet Sora and want to tell him that you love him back
>turns out he's now a fag
>Riku is still alive
>he's also a fag
>they are now faggots for each other
>they completely ignore you
How do you think Kairi felt about this?

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>>31479150
Kairi's best feature are her childish facial expressions.

>> No.31479880

>>31479150
>early 2000s scene/emo
GOD, why did that fad die out? Remember Boxxy? Early Avril Lavigne? I miss when every girl was a scene emo slut because it was the current fad.

>> No.31479996

>>31479581
KH1 Kairi looks like the kind of girl that would pull you behind a tree and blow your dick while getting off to the idea of being caught.

>> No.31480035

>>31479742
>>31479830
>her design
Holy shit, why did KH become so gay after this?
There's barely any hot, kinky girl in it anymore and the evil sluts like Larxene and Kairi(white) are slowly retconned to be good guys after all.

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>>31480035
The first game was shadow written by the same guy that did the cutscene direction (notice how they became much more stilted and awkward in later games). Nomura did the actual plot elements and mechanics of the universe, but the character interactions and drama was done by that other guy. Plus, after the success of the first game, Disney told Nomura to tone down Kairi's sass and make her look and act more like a Disney princess. Hence her godawful portrayal in later games. I suspect Nomura was always gay, though.

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>>31479100
>I might have to rethink my take on Kingdom hearts completely
you should, The first game is a metaphor for sexual awakening, for starters. It also has really cool themes. It's incredibly underrated and unfairly considered "simple" just because the actual PLOT is simple. But it has a really good story.

The main villain (pre-retcon) was a scientist king who knew everything, understood everything, studied hearts and darkness to the point of giving up his humanity in order to visit other worlds and seek more knowledge. But he is defeated by Sora, a child who knows nothing and understands nothing.

Sora understands hearts at an instinctual level because of all the friendships he has formed over the course of his adventure (most of them felt genuine, unlike in the following games) and knows that deep down everyone is actually good. Ansem knows "everything there is to know" and has studied the mechanics of the universe for years, but he has no real connections with anyone and has turned into a psychopath, so he doesn't REALLY understand hearts at all.

That's the main theme of the first game. Academic knowledge vs experience. Logic vs faith.

There is also the fairly interesting relationship between Sora, Riku and Kairi. Two boys fighting over one girl who is cockteasing them for fun, one of them turns to darkness out of jealousy and they end up literally fighting to the death over Kairi's heart, which she had already given to Sora all along at the start of the game. It's all a big metaphor.

It's also sad how many players don't realize that Riku wasn't actually tricked by Maleficent. He literally rejects her bullshit in the next cutscene. He didn't give a shit about Donald and Goofy. Sora himself ignores Donald and immediately invites Riku to join the party.

The reason Riku gets all angsty and rejects his offer is because he's mad that Sora no longer depends on him to fight the monsters. He is no longer the top chad. Sora can now defend himself and has a cooler weapon than him. And on top of it, Kairi actually likes Sora instead of him. That's why he becomes so villanous and tries to save Kairi by himself. He NEVER believed what Maleficent said.

And Kairi wasn't actually experiencing her body's coma. She was inside Sora and even showed up a few times during the game as what appeared to be "hallucinations". But it was the real Kairi speaking to Sora. She fell in love with him for real after being in contact with his heart for so long and realizing that he really cared for her. She knew what was going on as soon as she got her body back, which implies that she was experiencing everything Sora did. She was there for the whole game, she wasn't an useless bitch like people claim. Kairi's body remains dead and only moves her hand a bit when her heart (in Sora) gets near her body in the pirate ship. She is never in her body as an emotionless doll, she IS her heart and spends the whole game with Sora.

And the later games even fuck up everything that was good about KH1. Riku literally says in DDD that he remembers Terra and that's why he wanted to explore other worlds. It completely ruins the whole point of his obsession with Kairi in KH1, which wasn't only teenage horniness but also fascination because she came from another world. Fuck all this bullshit about some dude showing up when he's little, straight up telling him other worlds are real and telling him he'll grow up to be a keyblade wielder. Fuck it all.

I swear the first game is so fucking misunderstood and underrated. It's pretty well written. CoM did a good job of creating another emotional story with good characterizations, but everything after that focused too much on explaining logically a lore that didn't need so much explanation, at the expense of the actual story.

The fanbase is made up of faggots and goats, so they constantly shit on Kairi without realizing she's the most important character and has the best development in KH1, as well as a really cool backstory, lore importance, etc. Not to mention her DESIGN.

>> No.31480828

>>31480728
Logically, you could explain the ending by saying that the true light of Kingdom Hearts was trapped in the deepest darkness after the world was destroyed in grandma's story, so the only way to access Kingdom Hearts was to summon a door to the realm of darkness. But when Ansem opened it, Kingdom Hearts killed him with its faint light.

On a thematic level, the ending works really well because Ansem was proven wrong. All his cold, heartless research was for nothing, his conviction that darkness was the beginning and end of all things was false. Kingdom Hearts was light. And that's what kills him. All he believed in crumbled in front of him.

My favorite thing about KH1 is that the main trio doesn't feel like a real group of friends.

Sora and Riku were good friends as kids, but then Kairi showed up, which made Riku become obesessed with her, idealize her and fall in love with her. Not only because she's cute and sassy, but because she literally comes from a different world and has lost her memories of it, which he finds fascinating.

When the game starts, their relationship has become really toxic because they are competing over a girl. They kinda hang out together, but Kairi is only in it to tease both of them (and maybe kind of wants to fuck Sora). Riku is obsessed with the idea of becoming a chad and also wants to see other worlds. Sora likes Kairi and is starting to dislike Riku because he is so much better in everything that he feels like a dangerous rival that could potentially cuck him out of Kairi's love.

Am I the only one that noticed this when playing the game for the first time? You are supposed to empathize with Sora, and Riku is presented to you as an old friend who has recently become kind of an unlikeable chad. He feels distant from Sora. That's what makes the trio interesting.

Kairi eventually falls in love with Sora after realizing that he loved her for real. She matures and decides to stop being a cocktease slut because she caused the whole fucking problem and destroyed Sora and Riku's friendship. She is responsible for Riku getting possessed by a demon.

The Days trio feels like actual friends, or maybe coworkers. Their problems come from the fact that their circumstances force them to kill each other or betray each other. It's pretty nice.

The BBS trio is garbage because they don't really feel like friends. Their relationship is way too perfect and they are all too old to have teenage rivalries and shit. They are just bland compared to Sora, Riku and Kairi.

>> No.31480874

>>31480728
>>31480828
Sorry, about the off-topic rambling, though. But you mentioned my waifu and I had to explain why I love her.

>> No.31480980

>>31480728
>they end up literally fighting to the death over Kairi's heart, which she had already given to Sora all along at the start of the game. It's all a big metaphor.
So "I'll never let you take Kairi's heart!" was the equivalent of the fat guy in a NTR doujin telling the main character that his GF has become a cockslut and will never go back to him?

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;:ʇdᴉɹɔSɐʌɐſ

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>>31481063
COBOL

>> No.31481202

>>31480874
it was an interesting read, and people don't generally mind off-topic as long as it's a one time thing. even italianons ramblings would have probably been received better if he just made a few blogposts in ONE thread, dumped his manifesto and then fucked off.

>> No.31481231

>>31480263
>that pic
I literally cannot believe she's got a butt crack and armpit stubble. She's so fucking hot. And yet and yet! Even so even so! Despite that despite that! She's a 14 year old human!

>> No.31481764

>>31479880
I bet KH1 Kairi would love to visit Halloween town and dress up as a gothic monster like the scene emo slut she is.

>Sora finally takes her there in KH3
>she's not impressed
>"I thought you loved this kind of shit, Kairi."
>"I was a stupid kid, Sora. I'm not into that cringeworthy emo stuff anymore. In fact, I've been deleting all my old pictures because I'm ashamed of that stage of my life."
Sasuga Nomura. You made a realistic female character. She became a boring "proper lady" that resent her old spunky self because females are easily brainwashed by society.

>> No.31482138

>>31481102
Eva humiliated Ange with the power of a decent language.

>> No.31482348

>>31480263
>>31480728
>>31480828
Ryuukishi writes timeloop stories where the characters are stuck in a certain timeframe and can't really develop at all, but the readers gets to see them in completely different (and often incompatible) situations, as well as slowly learning their backstory. This means one's impression of the characters changes a lot from the start to the end of the story, and they become incredibly complex characters, a far cry from the stereotypes they appeared to be at first.

Nomura has great lore ideas and loves flashy/pretentious things, but the ruins it because he retcons fucking everything. He comes up with a cool new idea, plot element or character, and sacrifices everything he's written up to that point in order to tell the new story. He doesn't mind rendering past stories meaningless garbage via retcons to serve the story he's currently trying to tell. It's awful writing.

>> No.31482544 [DELETED] 

>>31479742
>meanwhile Riku sniffs your unconscious body in weekly humiliation rituals meant to cure his unrequited crush
Unironically canon. In the next game she tells Namine that she and Kairi "smell the same" (his own words). He's a humiliation chad that did as he pleased with 9th grade crush's body until he was satisfied and ready to give her up to Sora.

>> No.31482610

>>31479742
>meanwhile Riku sniffs your unconscious body in weekly humiliation rituals meant to cure his unrequited crush
Unironically canon. In the next game he tells Namine that she and Kairi "smell the same" (his own words). He's a humiliation chad that did as he pleased with 9th grade crush's body until he was satisfied and ready to give her up to Sora.

>> No.31482745

>>31481202
Italianon spam is similar to the military escalation in Ciconia. He could've posted his theory once, but he decided to spam it over and over again. This means other people are forced to repeat their own theories over and over again to get people to read them, because they often get lost in the middle of that faggot's ramblings.

>> No.31483030

>>31480035
>>31480263
I heard that all these characters are owned by Disney and that's why no doujin artist dares to lewd them, despite the popularity of the series and Kairi's absolutely perfect design and personality. There are like... two doujins in total, both old as fuck and pure yaoi. An absolute tragedy.

>> No.31483165

>>31479880
I have a soft spot for shitty old anime from that era (like Midori no hibi, Naruto, shakugan no shana or zero no tsukaima) because I associate them with those lewd emo sluts that only liked superficial shit like that. They were so damn hot.

>> No.31483238 [DELETED] 

>>31479025
Wait, this wasn't a meme edit? What the fuck?

>> No.31483355

>>31479419
>>31479581
She has no other friends because she often gets lost in a daze having flashbacks of her past life and because of her oversized feet. Sora and Riku started wearing big shoes to make her feel better about it. My headcanon is that she's not really that cheeky and slutty outside her interactions with those two.

>> No.31483455

Guess you don't really want to talk about R07 today.

>> No.31483503

>>31483455
javascript:;

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>>31483503
Now it's fine.

>> No.31483586

>>31481764
>She became a boring "proper lady"
You impressively fell for Nomura's first layer meta ploys, congrats.
Kairi didn't become "proper". She merely acts the part around Sora while getting her ass plowed by Axel during their training sessions. She's raising Sora into her personal NTR plaything, and he noticed that at the end of KH3 and disappeared into a different world to escape the humiliation.

>> No.31483814

>>31483520
Erika dies in 1986 without ever knowing the glory of Python. Shameful.

>> No.31483845

Kairi is an expy of Hikari from Digimon 02. Similar name, same sassy personality, same haircut, same broken abiities, same light powers that make her unique among all the other characters, etc. They are the same person in different realities, only one is 11 and the other is 14.

Speaking of Hikari, she is also in love with the brown haired protagonist of the story. Mamoru Hosoda (her creator and director of the pilot OVA and the infamous episode 21 of Digimon Adventure) confirmed in an interview that he intentionally gave the episode a lewd atmosphere with the sick little sister in her pajamas and shit. He also confirmed she is in love with her brother, who might or might not have done lewd things with her at some point. The absolute madman confirmed Taichi x Hikari incest is canon and SJWs went crazy trying to prove the translator made it up. It turned out to be a real interview. And looking at his episodes, a lot of scenes and lines make a lot of sense now.

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>>31483845
Forgot the webm.

>> No.31483947

>>31483814
At least she will never know the pain of indentation errors every 2 minutes.

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>>31480263
>>31480728
>>31480828
Truth.
KH1 really had the best story, presentation and atmosphere by far.

>> No.31484005

Ange becomes a game dev and makes quake mods

>> No.31484015

>>31483586
KH3 changed her voice and finally killed what remained of her original personality. Fuck Nomura. He's worse than Higurashi Nomura.

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Python is magic.

>> No.31484325

>>31483845
Kairi is a joint expy of REmake Rebecca Chambers and Hikari.

Meow is a Kairi expy and Jayden looks like a simp version of Riku.

>> No.31484360

>>31483913
was she fishing for a
>y-you should depend on me
?

>> No.31484436

>>31480728
>she was experiencing everything Sora did
I wish we could've played the rest of the game AS KAIRI when Sora killed himself, inheriting all his abilities and only changing the movement to be a bit more nimble. It'd make perfect sense and make for a really nice endgame and postgame. I love playing as cute girls.

You could have Sora's revival right before the final boss but after the last save point.

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>>31483913
>>31484360
She wasn't giving a fuck about him and he noticed the love for her brother in her eyes. He felt cucked.

>> No.31484658

>>31484608
wew, poor guy

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>>31484608
I guess some are just more fortunate than others.

>> No.31485117

>>31484608
>>31483913
Is this 6th grade crush anon's backstory?

>> No.31485237

>>31483913
She looked at him like "what the fuck are you even saying" for daring to suggest that she needs someone other than onii-chan. The idea of depending on some other man doesn't even register in her brain. Lmao, Takeru is an even bigger cuck than the other dude.

>> No.31485313

>>31484608
Did they seriously put a loli ahegao wet dream scene in Digimon?

>> No.31485468

>>31484608
Is he remembering a totally innocent scene and interpreting him as Taichi fucking his sister in the ass?

>> No.31485529

>>31485468
Darn those tv censors.

>> No.31485584

>>31484436
How about a second visit to the worlds as Kairi, with nobody knowing who the fuck she is but her remembering everything that happened in the first half of the game? It's be pretty neat.

>> No.31485663

>>31485468
He's literally Satoshi. He got Hinamizawa syndrome and can't stop over-analyzing everything he saw to fit his paranoid thoughts about Hikari fucking her brother. The twist is that he's not wrong.

>> No.31485739

>>31479742
>>31479830
>>31480263
I would totally lick her objectively disgusting but subjectively obscene butthole and you can't change my mind.

>> No.31485824

>>31481764
She probably didn't even shave her armpits properly and went around exposing them for everyone to see! Pathetic! How can she live with herself knowing people still remember her slutty but clueless about humiliation KH1 self?

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>use all the feminine parts of her Grade 2 body and psych to take him back
Fucking based.

>> No.31486414

>>31485824
Riggu did it for her during the time he joined the disney illuminati and kept her body.

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Anything but 7th expansion general thread.
6/10 so far.
No italianon so that’s fine.
Coding ok too

>> No.31486713

>>31486594
I guess it needs more humiliation and Ange and Satoko

>> No.31486791
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as always off of Topic with Porn:

also new discover guys

RED TRUTH:
>All of those who met at the family conference acknowledged the presence of Kinzo!
>No person would mistake Ushiromiya Kinzo by sight. No matter what disguise might be used, they would not mistake Ushiromiya Kinzo by sight!

for Shkanontrice Kinzo mean the head of the family but People mistake Shannon for Kanon.
SO IS IMPOSSIBLE

IT'S OVER IT'S FUCKING OVER

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The idiot arrived and he failed to understand the red truth. Or the story in general.
Now it is a 5/10.
Can it get better?

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>>31483913
That's the episode where she gets kidnapped by a literal Digimon Cthulhu called Dagomon who can summon non-digimon lovecraftian creatures of darkness and they attempt to get her pregnant with hybrid abominations at the age of 11. It's a bizarre as fuck episode that has nothing to do with the rest of the story, making it more ominous and bringing about countless theories.

Like this fanfic. It's a collection of random stories shipping different characters. The Dagomon x Hikari ones are surprisingly well written, especially this one:

https://m.fanfiction.net/s/11030425/7/

It's some fucked up lovecraftian shit. Dagomon captured Hikari in the dark sea episode and made her an immortal god millions of years ago. I'm not sure if there is rape in the other parts, but this is more dirty and intimate anyway. They basically share their minds and souls. It's pretty lewd to imagine Hikari floating in the dark sea with dead eyes for all eternity, so mindbroken that she doesn't care about her situation or the fate of the other chosen children, being reincarnated over and over again in her "dreams", which are actually real worlds, only to find out at some point that she is already a prisoner of Dagomon and there is nothing her friends can do to save her.

The 20 something chapters long fanfic with a couple of short rape scenes must have been a different one. I think it was called Blossom storm or something like that. It way too long, but it's apparently pretty decent.

TL;DR: She becomes his cumdumpster and an immortal god of space time, endlessly reliving alternate versions of her life as Hikari between mating sessions, mourning the defeated chosen children, being mindbroken into falling in love with Dagomon... Simply fantastic. Especially the idea of her living normally for decades only to realize that entire reality was fabricated, remember her status as an eternal slave to an eldritch abomination and coming back to Dagomon's realm.

It's similar to how I imagine the Umineko witches spend their time when they are absolutely bored. They just termporarily forget their status as witches and incarnate as a normal expy of Rika/Miyo to live a normal life and experience real danger and excitement again.

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>>31486594
Look what you did >>31486791

>> No.31487014
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>>31486933
I summoned him up. It’s the cursed power of being Ushiromiya Ange

>> No.31487077

>>31486900
Javascript can fix everything, I hope

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>>31486900
>>31486933
fuck off anons
this thread turned into pedo digimon

so let's talk about Umineko like in the title of this thread say us to do:

THE ROULETTE DESTINY IS POISON AND SLEEPING PILLS MIXED INTO THE FOOD OF FEMILY CONFERENCE.
this is why the games are different.

this is the difference between Erikantrice and Shkanontrice, explain all the love into the meta scene make us find the real solution

>> No.31487218

This thread needs more Kairi butt-kissing and feet-licking to drive away italianon. Faggots hate hot hebe sluts.

>> No.31487243

Feels good to have the scorpion charm...

>> No.31487260

>>31487218
At least post stuff that involves 07th expansion characters.

>> No.31487261

>>31487243
feel like a cuck

>> No.31487380

Is the anti-manifesto Anon still here?

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>>31454781
Update: Bern sent Erika into my dreams but it was nothing sexual.
Instead I had a nightmare were I was tortured by her.

>> No.31487417

>>31487395
Hot

>> No.31487447

>>31487380
He is crying after failing to learn Latex.

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>>31487447
So this... is the power of Bern's pieces...

>> No.31487586

>>31487395
What are you going to do if you see her again, Anon?

>> No.31487723

>>31483814
>Erika dies in 1986 without ever knowing the glory of Python. Shameful.
I'd like to make Erika know the glory of my python.

>> No.31487816

>>31487260
Name a single pre-Ciconia character that even compares.

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>>31487586
Fail to solve the closed room she proposed me and be tortured for the rest of night again.
I need to step my game up, I guess this is Bern's way of testing me.

>> No.31487896

where's erika's voicelines in Umineko\sound\voice?

>> No.31487922

>>31487887
Sounds like it was the good kind of torture.

>> No.31487930

>there are people in this thread who have never read that one doujin where Hikari and Koushiro take a bath together and Mimi joins in while Yamato and Taichi fuck Sora in a park
>or the one where the boys kill their own digimon and wear their skin before raping and humiliating the older girls and convincing Hikari to spread open her ass cheeks and offer her anus to onii-chan
>or the one where Taichi buys a Sakura Kinomoto outfit for Hikari and she wears it as they fuck
>or the one where Tailmon is tired of being treated as a pet and parades 02 Hikari naked around town and makes Ken rape her before she is found by Takeru and Yamato, given an enema and fucked until she can't hold it in anymore and shits all over the place before dying of pure humiliation
>or that weird one where Takato draws 02 Hikari on a notebook page and accidentally summons her to the real world much like what happened with Guilmon, and Hikari turns out to be a total slut and offers him her gaping asshole
Seriously, Digimon has some fucking great doujins. And the art is absolutely TOP TIER.

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>>31487723
File "./anontinysnake.py", line 155, in _main
buffer=weights_file.read(weights_size * 4))
TypeError: buffer is too small for requested array

>> No.31488021

>>31487896
Inside the folder 46

>> No.31488045

>>31487922
It was your typical "Logic Error" routine nothing special.
The only highlight about the situation was Erika telling me a bad pun about it.

>> No.31488048

>>31488021
Oh yeah what the heck, why is she grouped in with some other loser?

>> No.31488065

>>31488048
Dunno, ask R07

>> No.31488069

>>31466682
Lmao shut the fuck up, it's not my fault that the VN isn't as popular as the anime you fucking elitist retard

>> No.31488088

>>31487930
The first one is a classic. Taichi leaves the house to play soccer with his friends and a sick Hikari wearing pajamas is left alone in the house. Koushiro goes to their house to see Taichi and Hikari convinces him to take a bath together with her. Hikari keeps teasing him, spreading her legs and saying lewd shit while they are in the bathtub. After some more lewd stuff that involved Hikari peeing all over the bathroom while Koushiro holds her legs up, Mimi finds the door open and comes inside. She forces herself into the bathtub to prevent Hikari from seducing him any further. Hikari shows Koushiro her asshole as she gets out of the bathtub to wash her hair, and Mimi gets more and more pissed. Especially when Hikari turns back, calls her a bitch without Koushiro noticing and plays dumb. Koushiro and Mimi masturbate each other, cum under the water and start fucking, but Hikari notices and licks Koushiro's cum from Mimi's pussy. Then, Hikari convinces Koushiro to fuck her. Mimi masturbates while watching the two, but she eventually gets so horny that she starts licking Koushiro's cum directly from his shaft while he fucks Hikari. She keeps licking until she reaches Hikari's cum filled pussy and finally her anus. As soon as Mimi starts licking Hikari's balloon knot, she cums as hard as her grade 2 body and psych allow her to and they live happily ever after.

Oh, there were a few Sora/Taichi/Yamato scenes in between all that shit, but they were nothing special in comparison. She was very submissive, though, offering both of her holes to the pair of boys. I don't really remember much.

The other doujins are even better, but that one is a classic. I still ship TaiKari, but Hikari and Koushiro are good too.

The lewdest thing about these doujns is the heavy emphasis on Hikari anal. It means there is something inherent to Hikari's design, especially her 8 year old version, that makes different hentai artists associate her with anal sex, in the same way that there's something about Ange that makes multiple different people across time want to see her humiliated and bullied.

>> No.31488156

Why is this fanbase so obsessed with finding alternate solutions to Umineko? There is so much more to discuss and talk about, but all you care about is doing mental gymnastics and discussing an already solved mystery. It's boring as fuck already, move ON.

>> No.31488201

>>31488045
What was the pun?

>> No.31488213

>>31488088
You should write a book. These dialogues are too long for the post format. It also makes you look like a schizo when you reply to yourself for a hundred posts. Just because you're eloquent enough to not be too repetitive doesn't mean you should do it.

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>>31488156
Because Umineko is based on Logic, it teach us how never accept a truth just because is accepted by everyone else.

the official solution insult the reader by violating the logic SO IS OUT DUTY OF UMINEKO LOVER DISCOVER THE REAL TRUTH!!!

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>>31488156
Not everyone is Italiananon. That said, we are trying to figure out this new coding episode now.

>> No.31488278

>>31488156
It's fun

>> No.31488287

>>31488201
<I'm sorry for bugging you!>
(Context: Every time I failed to come up with a good solution for the closed room, I was devoured by a swarm of insects.)

>> No.31488296

>>31488242
kek

>> No.31488325

>>31488065
Okay, now where's the VERY GOOD?

>> No.31488326

>>31488156
Actually most people did move on apart from occasional shitposting
Italianon is a disgrace to humanity.

>> No.31488338

>>31488213
>not knowing about the humilianon clones and OG humilianon's disappearance

>> No.31488369

>>31488156
I don't care about alternate solutions I like coming up with dumb theories like Gohdatrice (really stupid shit but still makes sense in-universe) every once in a while.
Not every one is some dumb autist.

>> No.31488378

>>31488325
voice\46\64501229.ogg

>> No.31488411

>>31488378
thank

>> No.31488415

>>31488369
Gohdatrice is a classic.

>> No.31488418

>>31488369
That's the same fucking thing. No one cares about the mystery, no one cares about any theories. Just talk about the characters and the story.

>> No.31488459

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa_u_DI0fvg

>> No.31488461

>>31488418
Gohdatrice is funny at least, you have no love.

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Ange's FAT, MEATY ass

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>>31488418
>That's the same fucking thing. No one cares about the mystery, no one cares about any theories.
Damn, how fucking toxic of you. Let people have fun.

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>>31488418
>That's the same fucking thing. No one cares about the mystery, no one cares about any theories. Just talk about the characters and the story.

>> No.31488569
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>>31488492
HOT JAVA
Eva clearly raised her wrong.
Ushiromiya family members need to wear the one-winged eagle underwear

>> No.31488580

Do you have a moment to hear about Kairitrice?

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>>31488418
People who dont care about mystery tell to me that my theory is wrong

This is the 1 bit goats that i figth everyday

>> No.31488598

Erikaのharapan session

>> No.31488718

>>31487218
She's had her butt licked in canon, so why should she be ashamed anymore?

>> No.31488773
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31488773

Why is Italianon so stupid?
He ruins the whole of Umineko by making up fake theories. No one will argue with him because it’s pointless.

>> No.31488795

>>31488156
I enjoyed writing ange suicide theory. when there's an opportunity to (over-)interpret little story inconsistencies I will always take them.

>> No.31488825

>>31484325
Why does a literal policewoman wear a choker?

>> No.31488828

>>31488795
She survives due to her pure love with Amakusa

>> No.31488835

>>31488569
Ange has her pubes in the shape of the one-winged eagle.

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>>31488773
>Why is Battler so stupid?
>He ruins the whole of goden land by making up fake theories. No one will argue with him because it’s pointless.

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There's a fragment where Gohdatrice really happened, and also one where Ange learns Javascript or COBOL. I managed to find even this one after a few hours of fragment surfing >>31488580

Now, what to know which one never happened?
Erikantrice

>> No.31488902

>>31488795
That's interesting. I'm mostly complaining about people arguing endlessly about the gameboard mysteries and ignoring literally everything else about Umineko.

>> No.31488909

>>31488828
Amakusa . . . is a fictional character created by ikuko because she wanted a comic relief to play off of Ange and introduce some fujobait into her chapters!

>> No.31488928

>>31488865
I don’t like replying to you Italianon but I must praise the response.
Only one typing mistake and no full caps. Keep this up and you might fool people into thinking you are human.

>> No.31488946

>>31488418
The mystery was solved and we have a definite solution. What the fuck more do you want?

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31489001

Magic is real!

>> No.31489016

>>31488909
Kairi and Ange anon here. Almost done. Should I make alternate versions based on in-game Kairi and OG Ange? Currently my HS models are perfect recreations of CGI Kairi and manga Ange.

>> No.31489018

>>31488893
Best truth

>> No.31489028

>>31488928
strange replay but thanks
>>31488946
YOU ARE FAKE NEWA

>> No.31489039

>wait, it's all inside the catbox?

>> No.31489049

>>31488418
>Just talk about the characters and the story. Geez, I do wonder why people would rather discuss the interesting and unique parts of Umineko rather than the bland characters and convoluted story.

>> No.31489151

>>31489039
And want to know what's really inside that catbox?
Everyone got Rokkenjima syndrome from playing Kinzo's fun family activities

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>>31489001
Dumb kid

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[BLUE]
If Teppei had actually fucked Satokoのlolee butthole, then she wouldn't be able to walk. We never see that in Tatarigoroshi. Teppei would not be able to fuck her rorianus without physically injuring her.
[/BLUE]

>> No.31489224

i wish bern was a good guy
i liked her better when she was supporting battler

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>>31488909
I dislike this response.

>> No.31489280

>>31489213
Can we actually stop it with the dumb Satoko debate?
The answer is as simple as Satoko did get molested but it did not involve penetration, just sexual harassment in the form of inappropriate touching.

>> No.31489348

>>31489213
How long do you think teppei's penis is? I suspect it isn't longer than 6 inches.

>> No.31489359

>>31489280
there's still all the c/a/suals who think "it was retconned" or we're reading too much into it, but I agree that it's basically a settled issue on /jp/

>> No.31489380

>>31489280
>t. teppei

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>>31489224
But Anon, Bern actually helped a lot through the whole story.
She just enjoyed playing the final boss.

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check the file dimensions.

>> No.31489470

>>31489280
What if she was actually forced to dance naked for the camera and spank her butt cheeks and Teppei is blackmailing her with the tapes?

>> No.31489480

>>31489348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfZuDcNTLJE
Ritsuko is a prostitute. She has seen many penises in her life. She would not inappropriately describe the size of a penis, unless she was lying.

>> No.31489500

>>31489466
>66
turn those upside down I guess.

>> No.31489523

>>31489470
Feel free to come up with ideas on how Satoko was humiliated by Teppei.
Just don't force any dumb unnecessary discussions.

>> No.31489546

>>31489480
women are notoriously bad at measuring sizes, because most men lie about them.
She is also probably used to japanese micropenises, compared to which, an average size looks big

>> No.31489650

>>31489466
Glorious Witch of Compression

>> No.31489847

>>31489470
What would even go through Satoko's mind while she follows those orders? Is she in shock, obeying automatically due to fear? Or is she feeling deep shame and indignation as she dances with her bald cunny exposed for the camera?

>> No.31489925

Would you want Kairi to become the witch of hearts? Or is her human condition a crucial part of her charm?

>> No.31490053

What if there is a fragment where Satoko isn't abused by Teppei and she is simply required to be naked at home so he can gaze at her developing preteen body?

Imagine Satoko being goofy in class and saying goodbye to her friends everyday, knowing she'll be butt-naked as soon as she enters the house.

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>>31490053
>She is simply required to be naked at home so he can gaze at her developing preteen body
Now this is some fucking based shit.
I wonder if Rika also did this. Telling Satoko to be naked at home so that they can both be completely comfortable with each other.

>> No.31490253

>>31486791
made for bbc

>> No.31490348

>>31490253
kek

>> No.31490406

Italianon humiliation. JavaScript. COBOL
the new frontier of these threads

>> No.31490407

>>31486791
but that's only about kinzo, not shannon or kanon

>> No.31490413

>>31490053
>>31490141
Imagine them saying goodbye to their friends at the door and stripping completely naked in five seconds as soon as they close it. Rena still hasn't even looked away from the door and they are already laying their human condition bare at the other side of it! Lewd! If only she knew!

>> No.31490472

>>31490053
Wouldn't that cause her to dissociate and not acknowledge her naked at home self and her public self as the same person?

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>>31490406
Don't forget the Bern/Rika posting

>> No.31490567

>>31490407
According with Shkanontrice the Kinzo that people saw in the dining room is Shkanon

>> No.31490575

>>31490053
It's probably why she wasn't showing any signs of abuse in the last episode of Gou.

>> No.31490582

>>31490406
If you were to have a battle for dominance between Hikari and Kairi anon, which one would stay to fight the italian menace and which one would perish?

>> No.31490641

>>31490567
in ep 4?
but what if the title of kinzo was hereditary and passed onto the family head, aka the new beatrice aka shkanon?
Was there a red truth denying this?

>> No.31490721

>>31490567
Yasu just wheeled in the corpse of Kinzo on a tray.

>> No.31490809

>>31490641
this is what Shkanontrice said
so no one can mistake the head of the famiy Shkanon

but Battler mistake when he saw Beatrice during his test
so FAKE
>>31490721
This is my solution, the manga solution is Kinzo = SHkanon

>> No.31490822

If a preteen rori is such a perfect and dignified creatures whose mere existence and radiance can bring creatures such as 6th grade crush anon and humiliation anon into existence, how come they are also considered fucking pathetic and the most humiliating state of being possible for a human female?

Are they pathetic laughingstocks with a half-grown body or are they beings of pure light that captivate one's heart forever with their sheer perfection? Which one is it? You are all schizos.

>> No.31490929

>>31490822
They are the former if you see them for what they are, the latter if you fall for the illusion they project to the outside.

>> No.31491213

>>31490053
>no abuse
>orders her to be naked at all times
That's not how it works, comrade.

>> No.31491297

>>31490053
Imagine Teppei inviting Chie and all of Satoko's friends to dinner so they can all discuss his supposed "abuse" in a civilized manner. He tells them Satoko is staying at a clinic in Okinomiya because she's got a fever.

Imagine naked Satoko forced to hide under the kotatsu for the entire duration of the meal, sweating buckets from the heat, trying desperately not to make any sounds or touch anyone's legs, because if someone were to look under the kotatsu they'd see her in her birthday suit! Humiliating!

Imagine Keiichi accidentally touching her bare ass with his hand and not paying it much mind. Imagine him finding out about Satoko's abuse weeks later and learning that she was under the kotatsu that day! Would he find it absolutely lewd and dehumanize Satoko whenever he remembers he touched her lewd butt? Would he try to remember as many details as possible from that day, cursing himself for having forgotten most of it?

>> No.31491339

>>31491213
If there are no sharp objects that might hurt her naked butt when she sits down, it's not abuse. Her vulnerable, soft body being exposed isn't inherently abusive or dangerous.

>> No.31491387

>>31491339
by that logic locking a child in a closet for a day is not abuse
and verbal abuse is not abuse

>> No.31491972

>>31491387
>verbal abuse is not abuse
Yes.

>> No.31492052
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>>31490053
What if there's is a fragment where Teppei is a famous painter and he requires Satoko to pose naked every day so he can immortalize her magnificent preteen body on canvas.

>> No.31492125

>>31491972
verbal abuse is also psychological abuse

>> No.31492158

>>31492052
So the arc instead would be about Keiichi and company convincing Satoko that there is nothing wrong with tasteful nudity and that she shouldn't feel any shame about it?

>> No.31492169

>>31492125
boo hoo sue me for calling you a faggot

>> No.31492196

>>31491213
If Satoko grows used to laying her pathetic body bare for Teppei to see and eventually treats it as normal, it's not really abuse. It would be abuse if she periodically got seen naked by more and more people and had to experience the initial humiliation over and over again.

It's their little secret and nobody has to know, so her dignity outside the house is preserved and she only loses it in front of her uncle. If she accepts this, it eventually becomes as natural as letting a dog see her naked. Or seeing herself naked in a mirror. It's just how it is, no need to feel pathetic. But she'll always fear that her secret exposure will be discovered by her friends and make her into a public humiliatee.

>> No.31492218

>>31492169
an insult directed at an anonymous user in an african kitchen chemistry forum does not qualify as verbal abuse. Abuse must be repeated.

>> No.31492229

>>31491297
>naked Satoko forced to hide under the kotatsu for the entire duration of the meal, sweating buckets from the heat, trying desperately not to make any sounds or touch anyone's legs, because if someone were to look under the kotatsu they'd see her in her birthday suit!
Lewd.

>> No.31492263

>>31492125
it's nowhere near as amusing once you realize he's serious, is it

>> No.31492279

Man, what a weird episode we are having today.

>> No.31492367

guys higu episode today or this week skip for holidays?

>> No.31492372

>>31492158
Yes. They would decide to hold a special club game every Sunday that involves all members playing cards completely naked in Mion's bedroom. They'd get comfortable being naked around each other and exposing everything. There would be no more secrets or misunderstandings anymore, there's no point in withholding secrets or hiding feelings when you've literally seen all your friends butt-arsically naked. This way, Satoko's previous humiliation would be meaningless.

All is in the name of making Satoko feel better about her nudity.

>> No.31492385

>>31492218
If we take the low amount of steady participants in 07th threads into account I probably called you a faggot a few times before.

>> No.31492404

>>31492385
>semantics
look who's the faggot now

>> No.31492414

>>31492169
everyone on 4chan call everone a faggot. it's a norm so noone gets insulted by that. What if you were a homosexual and your entire family would tell you that you are a failure because you are a faggot?

>> No.31492423

Is Miyao just Kairi with a mental illness and a flat titties?

>> No.31492467

>>31492372
based Teppei saving Satoko dignity

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>>31492372
I'm sometimes amazed by your writing, sometimes you make the most ridiculous situations sound completely plausible in-universe.

>> No.31492586

>>31492372
Would Mion prepare nudist butt towels so Rena can sit on her bed or her chair without leaving buttsweat all over the place? Summer is hot in Hinamizawa.

>> No.31492595

>>31492367
hopefully they don't skip, fuck.

>> No.31492706

>>31492372
Imagine Mion proposing this the day before and Rena agreeing after thinking about it for a while. She's sacrificing her modesty and her right to privacy for the sake of Satoko's mental health, who is currently crushed by the humiliation she suffered at Teppei's hands.

Rena and Mion are such good friends that they would do this for Satoko, even though it took them a while to come to terms with the idea and deep down they really don't want to humiliate themselves like that.

>> No.31492720

>>31492414
My family is full of brainwashed liberals, they'd kiss my feet and praise my name if I told them that I'm gay.

>> No.31492761

>>31492720
doesn't change the point of his argument. If they repeatedly told you that you were a failure and stupid, wouldn't that qualify as abuse?

>> No.31492808

Hanyuu is a dumb goat

>> No.31492965

>>31492372
>>31492571
>>31492586
>>31492706
Reminds me of this story:

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~puericil/2020/
The_Program_01to02.html

The first time would be soul-crushing for all involved. Mion and Rena would go to sleep that night feeling fucking pathetic, thinking they did something wrong they can never take back, regretting their decision to do something so obscene, maybe contemplating the idea of moving away and cutting off their friendship so they never have to think about that naked card game again. They'd cry themselves to sleep but still masturbate to the memory of Satoko's cunny and Shion's butt. And eventually, they would keep doing it and get used to the freedom of nudity. The physical, psychological and emotional freedom of having no barriers between you and your friends, being completely honest to the point of not even hiding your bodies behind clothes.

That would be the ultimate commie paradise in Hinamizawa. This is the freedom Lingji already enjoys at her family home in China.

>> No.31493014

>>31492761
Jesus christ, dude. How old are you? Nobody was actually being serious about it not being abuse. Stop trying to prove a point and learn to detect jokes.

>> No.31493049

>>31493014
you can never be sure about some of the /pol/-tier opinions you hear

>> No.31493199

>>31492218
I think that it's more about a person being insecure about a given subject rather than repetition, and the implication is reverse - you may start being insecure after being called <x> many times

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>> No.31493231
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31493231

>Stop saying indecent things about me!

>> No.31493284

>>31493014
not him, but if some of the conversations in the past threads don't make you raise an eyebrow at least you might be autistic.

>> No.31493343

>>31493284
I belong in a mental institution. Sorry for party rocking

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>>31493231
Satoko herself is indecent.
Her mere presence arouses me. . .

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>>31493343

>> No.31493525

Oliver Twist
Charles Dickens
but why Nina?

>> No.31493666

>>31493284
The only thing that makes me raise an eyebrow at this point is people praising the one who shall not named otherwise he will fucking come here and shitpost again

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>>31493372
She doesn't realize how pretty she is and that the way she dresses is extremely sexual and arousing. It was said that Rika is going to grow up into a manipulative lady but if only Satoko knew how to use her natural weapon she could already wrap all the men from Hinamizawa around her little finger.

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31493743

>>31489397
>>31489224
Bern states she wanted to be bad guy this time, I think has to do being victim in higurashi?

>> No.31493854

>>31493743
All she wanted was a happy life with her friends

>> No.31493873

>>31492367
there is no episode this week

>> No.31493901

>>31493873
you know who you're replying to, right?

>> No.31493935

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSr3ak_qeS8

>> No.31493940

>>31493743
I guess. But the fun part is that for a "bad guy" she's actually just helping the protags all the time.
Everything from giving Battler the chance to play against Erika(and thus understand Beato's game) and then showing Ange the worst possible kakera(and thus prepare her mentally), but she definitely had her fun in the meantime.

>> No.31493992

>>31493873
thanks anon
>>31493901
you have a mental illness anon

>> No.31494051

>>31493935
I got a boner listening to this

>> No.31494113

Crying_Jessica.wav

>> No.31494213

>>31493935
Always nice, but Beatrice and Bern have the best laughs.
But the secret Elder God tier is ahaha.wav

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>>31494113

>> No.31494339

>>31494213
I always like Beato's cackle. Reminds me of a girl I used to like

>> No.31494356

>>31493284
Are you anti-pedo sociopath anon? You have to be, right? He had the same tendency to misunderstand shit.

>> No.31494398

>>31494213
I absolutely love ahaha.wav, but sadly it's vastly out of place if you play with voices on since it's almost always overshadowed by the voice actors.

>> No.31494458

>>31494245
>ihihihi~
Kek

>> No.31494505

>>31494339
Beatrice is a classic, she sounds exactly like an evil witch.
Bern sounds like she's having the greatest time of her life in Ep7.
Evatrice is funny, she sounds fucking retarded but it worked so well.

>>31494398
And ahaha.wav is absolutely hilarious, makes me giggle too.

>> No.31494552

>>31485739
What exactly makes an ass subjectively non-disgusting? An ass is an ass.

>> No.31494587

>>31494552
Shape and proportion
The ones in greco roman statues aren't disgusting, no one would think so for example

>> No.31494750
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31494750

Why Mion exchanged her gun with Ooishi to kill Satoko?

>> No.31494784
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31494784

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toeFCPwa1HI

>> No.31494822

>>31494552
The cuteness of the ass-haver. If she's cute, you don't mind licking her ass. If she has a naughty personality on top of that, you actually want to lick her ass.

Kairi herself probably doesn't understand what's supposed to be so appealing about her shitter, but she knows it works and uses it to her advantage.

>> No.31494856

>>31494822
Well, that's true. I would lick Kairi's ass even if she didn't want me to.

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>> No.31494909

>>31494897
Based moonman

>> No.31495119

>>31494822
How can girls even be so ignorant of humiliation and the human condition? Isn't it obvious that your ass doesn't magically taste good and the only reason people want to eat it is to shame and degrade you?

>> No.31495148

>>31492965
>asstr
>.org/
>~puericil/2020/
>The_Program_01to02.html
This is dangerously lewd, not for the faint of heart. I'd kill myself in that girl's place though

>> No.31495454

>>31486791
are you still reading umineko? how many hours you read umineko per day? average

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They did what to Tomitake-san?!

Seriously though, why is it censored?

>> No.31495500

>>31495487
Exactly what you think.
They killed him, duh.

>> No.31495515

>>31495454
i was busy with holiday and latex so nope.
i will reread it later

>> No.31495516

>>31495487
No clue. Ryu07 sometimes censors stuff for no reason only to reveal it a few seconds later.

>> No.31495600

>>31495516
It means the character finds the idea so horrifying they don't even want to imagine it. In this case, Keiichi is convinced that Tomitake being murdered means he's next, so he can't even think straight.

>> No.31495614

>>31495487
it signifies that the narrator is dissociating and not allowing themselves to think something out loud. I'm surprised it's considered confusing.

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>>31495487
Well they ****ed him, about 6 guys held him down and Takano watched it happen.

>> No.31496351

>>31495454
Italianon does not read.
He sees words and then twists their meaning into something evil and contrary to the laws of god

>> No.31496353

>>31495487
When I was reading that for the first time, I seriously thought it meant they fucked him.
"They ****ed Tomitake-san and now they are going to **** me!"

>> No.31496397

>>31496353
Imagine getting fucked so hard you have to claw your own throat.

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>>31496353
A valid red truth.

>> No.31496453

>>31496397
I would absolutely do it if I was choking on lots of semen/pussy juice.
I can't imagine having to go through that disgusting experience.
Muh dignity...

>> No.31496470

>>31496453
>>31496404
Well shit, you have figured out the first episode.

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>>31496397
>Imagine getting fucked so hard
Is this why Keiichi went L5 and killed Mion and Rena?

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31496505

>>31496481
>>>/c/orrect

>> No.31496514

>>31496481
>we're going to make you meet the same fate as tomitake
what did Mion show him, a dildo?

>> No.31496531

>>31496481
He was not ready for the Satoshi experience yet.

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31496567

>fucking around with art styles
>check original
>Mion has a gun

What the fuck?

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>>31496567
>>>/i/ts+not+a+gun

>> No.31496616

>>31496567
Hi newfriend (?), the gun is extremely important foreshadowing, don't laugh at it.

>> No.31496631

>>31496567
It's the dildo they ****ed Tomitake with

>> No.31496634

>>31496631
This

>> No.31496885

Help I literally cannot stop thinking of Satoko

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>>31496885
Me neither...
Rika's and Satoko's cunny...

>> No.31496939

>>31496911
K1 is a lucky fuck

>> No.31497131

>>31488946
Yikes, just don't spread fake infos. The Ryukishi interview never confirmed that the manga was canon. People liked the wording and agreed on "it's canon now". Furthermore, while the art is really good Ryukishi did make a bad job supervising the story. Some scenes were awful and, at least for readers who paid attention to "everything", the opening of the "cat box" left more questions and plot holes than before.
About the "official answer statement": At least the average (western) fan is happy about that outcome. But the manga never confirmed everything of Sayo unless you accept Ikuko=Sayo. Strange, isn't?

>> No.31497190

>31497131
>using yikes
>setting off my Ikuko = Sayo filter
Nope not gonna bother with this one.

>> No.31497215

>>31496885
Before getting rid of your obession you may try to make a good use of it. Draw some pictures of Satoko. Write a poem about her.

>> No.31497224

>>31497131
Today I remind them

The secret of the character of Sayo is the core of Umineko’s story, so her inner workings and development were designed carefully and with the utmost complexity.

In the original version, in order to leave room for imagination for the reader to solve the mystery, I chose not to draw Sayo’s secrets in great detail (of course, it’s still possible to grasp, but I didn’t show things in a way where everyone would get it.)

With the manga version of Umineko, however, we considered the work to be a “period” to the “sentence” that is the world of Umineko.

Because of this, when I met with Natsumi-sensei [Kei Natsumi, the artist of the manga adaptation of Umineko’s eighth episode], I asked her to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.

Thus, all of the episode of Sayo that appeared in the EP8 manga is the official answer to the world of Umineko.

By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.

>> No.31497240

>>31497215
I'm a talentless piece of garbage

>> No.31497258
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>>31497190
You are wise not to.
Possibly a troll

>> No.31497281

>>31497224
d-delete this!

>> No.31497319

>>31497240
talent is only necessary for people who want to make it big, there's plenty of fan art and fiction by talentless hacks who were somehow divinely inspired and produced something meaningful

>> No.31497527
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31497527

I don't normally like to be negative, but is anyone else just really not feeling Iwahime ?

It's got it's fair share of Ryukishiisms but feels vastly inferior in every aspect to WTC, with the characters and mc especially being pure meh and the horror just not working for me at all, no sense of paranoia or confusion and the body horror ain't even gruesome. Some of the recycled stuff like Chie-senseis gag feel really hollow, it almost feels like a fan trying to emulate Ryukishis style. It does not have to be ambitious like WTC, but Iwahime just feels weak.

>> No.31497578

>>31497527
Iwaihime is supposed to be good but the western released was fucked up because they censored text and even removed some.
We will probably never get a proper script revision by some other translation team so yeah, Iwaihime's fate is just being another VN with extremely positive reviews on Steam since people don't know better.

>> No.31497689

>>31497578
Honesty given everything that is there I doubt it would be good either way, but more like if it was done properly it would still mark the lowend of Ryukishi games, right now it feels like it should be below his range entirely.

>> No.31497999

>>31497578
>Iwaihime's fate is just being another VN with extremely positive reviews on Steam
funny how that works. weebs will eat up anything no matter how trashy and cliche'd, so long as it's moderately competently executed. where mediocrity is celebrated, even if someone creates something special it won't register at all. it will just be consumed and thrown away with the rest of the entertainment-fastfood like anything else.

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>>31497689
Well you are right.
I just really don't want to accept that Ryukishi made a 5/10. I should just swallow the pill as earlier as possible, we are all human after all and consistency is one of the hardest things for a human to perform.

>> No.31498246

>>31498177
You all praise R07 too much. His VNs have many awesome moments and all, but an equally high amount of boring padding.

>> No.31498330

>>31498246
Name one

>> No.31498349

>>31498330
Literally the entire WTC series, with Higurashi being the main offender.

>> No.31498363

>>31498349
Wrong, sadly

>> No.31498380

>>31498363
Great argument there.

>> No.31498414

>>31498246
Nah, it's true that he is overly wordy or does not know when to end a scene sometimes, but most of the scenes including comedic and build-up are great. Iwahime is simply not as good as his other works. I think part of it is that like many other great artist (especially in japan) he can't leave the stuff he made alone and recycles it endlessly which we even see with the new Higurashi anime, but most of the time it's clearly a lower derivative like the fantasy scenes in Iwahime compared to.. any other fantasy scene he wrote, heck Alice in Wonderland is as cliche as it gets.

I love Ciconia and I don't think the last episode sof Umineko are bad, but I do think that the loss of BT and many years as a successful creator without a major project have weakened his output at least when it comes to consistent quality.

>> No.31498416

>>31498380
not like you made an argument as to where and how Higurashi is padded, you made an assertion and he replied with an assertion.

>> No.31498455

>>31498416
Mostly at the start of each episode. I can easily forgive the first and maybe the second, but believe me, this is getting extremely painful on a re-read.

>> No.31498499

And I won't ever re-read Umineko's episode 4 without skipping, Jesus Christ.

>> No.31498518

>>31498380
Show me yours first, faget

>> No.31498535

>>31498518
Right above your post

>> No.31498540

>>31498455
I have reread Higurashi and honestly love the start of the episodes, the club scenes and interactions are delightful, I don't think you really vibe with the franchise.

>> No.31498549

>>31498535
>And I won't ever re-read Umineko's episode 4 without skipping, Jesus Christ.
Not a really good argument, but okay.

>> No.31498552

>>31498499
weak

>> No.31498591

>>31498540
On my first read I thought the same because hey, cute girls doing cute things.
But now I am feeling the true pain of club activities.
>>31498549
>>31498552
You are not even trying anymore. And I like both Ange and Maria, mind you.

>> No.31498593

>>31498455
you're still not making an argument. you're just saying "I found onikakushi padded". and again you get a reply simply contradicting your assertion. come on anon, try making an effort.

>> No.31498630

>>31498593
>here's the padding
>nuh-uh, not an argument
Why do I even bother? I liked WTC but you R07 dick-suckers are ridiculous.

>> No.31498653

>>31498630
I'm confident this post is bait.

>> No.31498724

>>31498653
Yeah, not praising every single fucking line is bait.
No, I am just annoyed by this excessive praise despite the VNs are not GOTYAY material. Great, but R07 is all but the ideal writer.

>> No.31498762

>>31498724
Still, stating that his VNs are padded is not an argument you dumb fuck. How is it even possible to drag out a ~10 hours VN that much?

>> No.31498767

The card game scenes are so fucking boring. They're actually the worst at the start because of how much they repeat how great the girls are at everything and especially how amazing Rena is.
If I wanted to waste a lot of time, I would rewrite Higurashi without Rena out of spite. I think it could be done from a narrative point of view.

>> No.31498799

>>31498724
I don't think you really understand. I'm not saying you're wrong.
>Ryukishi's writing is padded
>The beginning of Onikakushi is padded
these aren't arguments. you're not making your case. you're just asserting what appears obvious to you.

>> No.31498835

>>31498767
>Higurashi without Rena
That already exists.

>> No.31498973

>>31498762
>How is it even possible to drag out a ~10 hours VN that much?
I am not talking about a single episode. And it's actually possible, mind you.

>>31498767
>and especially how amazing Rena is
God, I noticed that too. Honestly I can't dislike Rena myself, but agreed.

>>31498799
Do I have to explain in excruciating detail why I think most episodes in every single WTC VN has padding? >>31498767 that's definitely one for Higurashi as a whole, and Umineko has the shonen fights plus a good half of Episode 4 out of the top of my mind. There's some more like the start of Umi's Ep2.

>> No.31499001

Added readme for the vn section of the mega. Lemme if there's something I missed or didn't delve into enough.

>> No.31499020

>>31499001
you're doing gods work

>> No.31499082

>>31499001
>Will absolutely make fun of you for using pachinko sprites though.
Based

>> No.31499151

>>31499001
Don't understand anything, but bless you anon.

>> No.31499191

Let's talk about something different.

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>>31499191
Thread is almost dead, but sure. Let's talk about the best episode in Umineko.

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>>31499191

>> No.31499302
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>>31499257
And the 2nd best one

>> No.31499343

I'll show you guys... in the next thread.

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>>31499343
We will meet again.

When the Anons cry

>> No.31499531

>>31497224
You should read the manga as a Watsonian. Then read the interview again. Understand what Ryukishi said. This isn't even a troll comment, you are just lazy skim readers. As soon Sayo's "Confession of the Golden Witch" starts you fade out everything of EP7, didn't you? That's why Ikuko couldn't had found this message bottle at the beach. You were tricked by this and the interview. Ryukishi probably didn't care or maybe he was trolling, "the official answer" cannot imply canon. It was your headcanon (<-official answer) all along. To activate the filter, Ikuko=Sayo (which most people don't want to believe) implies that everything of Sayo's tragic backstory was real (what people want to believe).

>> No.31499567 [DELETED] 

>>>/i/have+hemorrhoids

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>>31499531
>"the official answer" cannot imply canon
Please never post again.

>> No.31499609

>>31499572
Fuck off troll.

>> No.31499628

>>31499609
Bold of you saying that when you seriously typed
>"the official answer" cannot imply canon

>> No.31499632

>>31499572
Don't reply to him, probably some unironic twitter SJW that fell sorry for the Italiantranny and came here to defend him.

>> No.31499656

>>31499531
Manga is fake and gay

>> No.31499690

>>31499632
no, baka. it's just italianon not using retarded capslock and reddit formatting. the grammar is still obviously him.

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>>31499572
>the official solution is canon

>> No.31499755

>>31499690
Ah, got me for a second.

>> No.31499760

>>31499690
u use reddit formatting

>> No.31499813

>>31499690
>>31499755
Yeah remember that anytime someone mentions that Ikuko is Yasu or some retarded shit like that its best to ignore them.

>> No.31499841

>>31499813
why Ikuko know so much if magic didnt exist?

>> No.31499874

>>31499841
Because she spent decades with Tohya?

>> No.31499880

>>31499813
Yes, I implore you to ignore any statement that is not in line with our redditor group think, thank you very much.

>> No.31499896

>>31499813
Why Ikuko never aged if Magic didnt exist?
Why Ikuko found battler and help him for 20 years?
Why R07 wanted her marry battler?
ecc...

your solution is DOESNT MATTER THINK
my solution is found the love in the story and give a meaning to the scene.

>> No.31499914

>>31499813
funny how a lot of discord fags seem to believe that as well. it's the disgusting hollywood kitsch mentality, they just need to believe so badly that battler and beato lived happily ever after that they'll use any kind of twisted logic to make it ""work""

>> No.31499942

>>31499874
spend decades with a man who forgot everything and made him read her stories about rokkenjima murders......I REMEMBER SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN META

>> No.31499953

This thread needs more Ange in diapers.

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>>31499841
>>31499896
>>31499914
Yup enemy identities have been 100% verified.
Let us not fall into this retarded baits anymore, lads.

>> No.31500017

Should have listened, I had a better topic
>>31499257

I need to make something new, but I'm out of ideas at the moment.

>> No.31500044

>>31499996
no proof
stop larping

>> No.31500050

>>31500017
Something with Maria and Sakutaro.

>> No.31500052

>>31499874
You expect me to believe Ikuko had conversations with Tohya during the endless sex they had on those decades? Nice try, but I won't fall for it.

>> No.31500083

Also, since the catbox was opened by the manga and the mystery is no more, doesn't that imply Bern still won IRL?

>> No.31500136

>>31500083
Fake
Bern is the Battler's family culprit theory, this is why she is so obsessed with ange and wanted destroy Beatrice's magic since the real world accept her as official solution.

Naturally this is fake and gay since
PARENTS CANT SOLVE THE EPIGRAPH WITHOUT GENJI'S HELP

>> No.31500158

>epigraph
this one gets me. it makes me unreasonably mad.

>> No.31500258

>>31500158
Epitaph is also kind of a weird word to use too since they are usually found on tombstones or mausoleums

>> No.31500266

Bern's goal was to take down Beatrice's magic and nothing else. Doesn't matter if Battler, Ange or Erika or Japanese retards harassing R07 do it.
So I guess she won somewhat, maybe not a perfect win, but she didn't lose either.

>> No.31500299

>>31500158
The epigiraffe.

>> No.31500329

>>31500266
IF MAGIC DOESN'T EXIST SO A HUMAN CULPRIT SOLUTION MUST BE THE TRUTH

WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL SOLUTION FOR PEOPLE IN THE REAL WORLD?

BATTLER'S FAMILY CULPRIT THEORY
SO IF BEATRICE LOSE, BATTLER FAMILY CULPRIT THEORY BECOME THE OFFICIAL SOLUTION

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>>31500329
Eat shit

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>>31500369
these are facts and logic.
you cant deny it, i gave a meaning to Bern's actions and relationship with Ange?

YOU?

>> No.31500450

>>31499953
Ange going to school in diaper. Bullies mess with her and find out.
"Eh what the hell? this chick wears diapers?'
Anges face flushed in humiliation, She gets so embarrassed but she is surrounded and has nowhere to run and starts wetting her diapers.
"She's actually using them! what's wrong with this bitch? Disgusting!"

>> No.31500515

It's 12AM in Italy, go to bed.

>> No.31500549

>>31500258
the reason it ticks me off so much is that this alone shows how irredeemably braindamaged he must be. I'm esl so before I read Umineko I didn't even know epitaph was a word, but by the end it was solidly burned into my memory. I can't even begin to imagine the feeble, half-conscious state of mind you would have to be in to get this kind of thing wrong over and over again without realizing, even as you argue with people who don't mirror your mistake.

>> No.31500558

>>31500515
i download shin megami tensei for Snes emulator and i am playing it
so no

>> No.31500715

>>31500558
Goddamn it, I really can't imagine you having good enough taste to play proper SMT games. Go play Persona you loser.

>> No.31500741

>>31500715
i hate them, just waifu-bait for ps-loosers

>> No.31500776

>>31500549
like, imagine being really into some weird offshoot of christianity and discussing your faith with catholics over a number of years, and imagine that even after all that time you call the apostles are apostrophes. just fucking imagine.

>> No.31500816

>>31500741
So what are your favorite RPGs?
Ever tried Dragon Quest?
Or did you just start playing RPGs?

>> No.31500838

>>31500776
>are
strike that

>> No.31500861

>>31500816
my favorite RPG is final fantasy 6
masterpiece
>muh final fantasy is for casual
the 6 was a masterpiece fuck off cuck

>> No.31500910

>>31500816
if you can advice me some hidden gem
for me the most important thing is the story,

>> No.31500986

>>31500861
Jesus fucking christ I was being fucking nice. Fuck you.
I also love Final Fantasy 6. Its no use attempting to establish any sort of conversation if you are going to be rude like this
Either way play Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey (DS version), it will keep you occupied for a while.

>> No.31501068

>>31500986
sorry that message was just in the case you say >muh final fantasy is for casual
>Either way play Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey (DS version), it will keep you occupied for a while.
i just start shin megami tensei series, and i want play all the game in order.
is a rigth choice or i can skip?

>> No.31501324

>>31501068
Sure its better if you play them all in order! It will keep you occupied for a lot of time probably years assuming you play a lot!
Apocalypse IV has the worst story but its game play is really good, so yeah don't skip that one once you get to it.
Either way if you have RPG related questions you can always go to /vrpg/ or ask around other forums, not around here, lets avoid the off-topic stacking.
So yeah play the mainline games (SMT I - SMT IV apoc), then Strange Journey DS and then the other spinoffs in whatever order you want.
<goodbye>
Enjoy your journey.

>> No.31501413

>>31501324
thanks anon
>you can always go to /vrpg/
/jp/ is the Board for expert, here there are personal expirience greater than any ""expert"" larping

>> No.31501482

>>31501413
No no no, don't be like that. Not everyone here is an expert. I don't post here that much anymore so I won't be able to guide you kihihihiihi
I do check /vrpg/ and /v/ more.
You can't say /jp/ is the board of experts if it is infested with hololive fags from discord/reddit.

>> No.31501578

>>31501482
the gem shines more in the darkness

>> No.31501711

>>31501413
Don't forget Megami Tensei 1 and 2.

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Oh, so you like RPGs, Italian anon?
I want to be really nice today and prepare you a long list of games you will most definitely enjoy. I'm sure you will love them so much you might even forget about everything you have played up to this point. But that's not important, after all to go through my entire list, you will need about the average person lifespan, if not much more.

>> No.31501790

>>31501711
what?

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>>31501724
Don't worry, we may not be nice when it comes to his Manifesto but I'm willing to go far as an RPG lover and recommend him lots of good ones.
No bad intentions, just some avid RPG lover.

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>>31501724
>need about the average person lifespan,
i use speed hack LOL

>> No.31501846

>>31501790
Digital devil story megami tensei I and II for the NES
don't forget to play them later on, they are really important RPGs historically and you wouldn't want to miss that experience.
>>31501826
Avoid using speedhacks please, the developers made those games with love, don't do that to them, keep them to a minimum.

>> No.31501921

>>31501846
i try to avoid Speedhacks but i choice american and the bible like a good catholic and now i am blocked into the Limbo without a fucking idea about where is the exit.

these games force you to use it
>megami
so shin megami tensei is not the first?

>> No.31501944

And then Bern recommended Wizardry

>> No.31501973

What the fuck are you guys talking about?

>> No.31502011

>>31501973
Next fragment is the RPG fragment.

>> No.31502017

graphics ruined videogames.
a snes game of 90s is better than 99% of modern game.

>> No.31502059

>>31501921
>so shin megami tensei is not the first?
No Shin Megami Tensei was a new series based of Megami Tensei.
They have nothing to do with each other lorewise so play them later.
Also getting lost in those games is part of the experience enjoy!
>>31501973
Recommending games (JPRGs specifically) to you know who so that he stays busy, as a good RPG lover of course! No weird ideas or anything kihihihhi.

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>>31501973
A lot of /07th/ anons are weapons lovers. First time here?

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>>31501944
I'm the Witch of Miracles, not the antichrist.
Play Etrian Odyssey.

>> No.31502357

>>31502195
>>31501944
explain the reference?

>> No.31502407

>>31502357
There's none, just friendly RPG recommendations by Maria and Bern.

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