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Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Higanbana, RGD and all other 07th Expansion works.

07th Expansion archive: https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

Scorpion Charm: https://pastebin.com/HdzXPPTF

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To the anon that said something about Gunhild in the previous thread, I googled it and couldn't find anything so I'm going to assume you're messing with me.

>> No.31271101

Ryu said that all his characters are actors and that's the highest level of meta. Featherine is literally powerless compared to All-cast Review Session Mion.

>> No.31271139

>he actually googled it
Hahaha! Miyao is such a kid!

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Yeah he was probably messing with you with some sort of inside joke.
However I want to mess with Miyao (physically of course).

>> No.31271292

I think about whether or not Miyao is biologically female every night and if I should even care if he(she) is.

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Thanks to all anons in the last thread! My cat is not grumpy anymore and she's been more social. I want to reward her for being such a good girl lately, what should I get her?

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Hello anons, I'm testing out how to do 4chan sound files so I hope you don't mind if I post this cute Satoko here and hope for the best.

>> No.31271408

her dead brother

>> No.31271453

Damn. Next time.

>> No.31271488

Miyao is really cute and I would fuck him/her regardless.
He still has 2 holes to work with in the worst case scenario (?).

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Why these threads die in only 1 day?

fuck Also Oorikantrice is the real solution of Higurashi Gou

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Battler is /ourguy/

>> No.31279048

Don't these CGs objectively strip away some of Ryuukishi's choices? I distinctly remember Battler making a smug face when he said this line, but this CG replaces the sprites and doesn't show them at all. This means part of the author's conscious decision has been ignored in favor of a CG that could make you interpret the lines in a different way. The original facial expression was there for a reason.

This could be said of many other scenes in Umineko and Higurashi, so don't nitpick this one in particular saying it doesn't matter.

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Arse Ushiromiya

>> No.31279181

probably. The experience is slightly different depending on the version you play.

>> No.31279185

Loli Ange's arse is bigger in proportion to her body, which means she's more human and therefore more pathetic.

>> No.31279320

And it's not even consistent. They just slap CGs there as soon as they are appropriate and keep them on-screen for an arbitrary amount of time that doesn't necessary fit every scene, so you have sprite expressions removed as a result and whether they are important or not is a coin toss. They are getting removed without too much care.

>> No.31279370

I can't believe they showed Ange's full ass crack on the cover. How am I supposed to take her seriously when I've seen her fat cheeks and her obscene crack?

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You never took her seriously in the first place.

>> No.31279460

Ange is such an edgy and angsty teenager, she's so proud and aggressive, and yet... and yet... her ass is round and soft, so vulnerable, so pathetic! It doesn't fit her hardcore personality at all! It's ridiculous!

>> No.31280223

Ange is a pervert...

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Does anybody have the Lambda Gou edit?
Also was a Bern edit ever made?

>> No.31282047

nade-nade nanodesu

>> No.31282154

How many episodes deep is the new season?
I checked in a few months back, but I can't remember when.

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There is something of a Bern edit but I don't have it saved.
It'll show up again.

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>> No.31284014

If you need a couple shitty faces to figure out what the writing means either you are retarded or the author is.

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>> No.31284143

she looks like she has downs

>> No.31284277

That's not my point and you know it. You are being disingenuous because you know I'm right.

>> No.31284313

my autistic wife!

>> No.31284452

Eat my ass and stop being a faggot loser.

>> No.31284604

Not him, but he has a point you know.
You seem to think there are objective ways to interpret a line in the first place, but in reality this is always subjective to the reader. The CG nor the original sprites are actually necessary, and of course in a static CG you could easily imagine the character isn't keeping their expression 100% of the time no matter what they are saying.

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Ange x Amakusa

>> No.31285161

Amakusa is actually Battler. You can't prove me wrong.

>> No.31285311

In reality, all fan ships happened in at least one fragment, and so did all other forms of Umineko fanfics as long they are in-character.
And Bernkastel watched all of them for fun.

>> No.31285330

I don't really get your reasoning. Originally Ryukishi chose what sprites to implement in which context, so they basically function as a "Battler said, smiling", "Beatrice said, while off-screen, so that one could not see her expression" and so on. For all intents and purposes they're part of the text.

>> No.31285369

I on't thin that applies to all possible combinations, impossible scenarios don't happen no matter how many times you roll the dice.

>> No.31285404

>on't thin
kek, f keyboard

>> No.31285592

The point is that you can interpret the same sentence in the same way whether you see that CG, the Battler sprites or a fucking black screen with only words on it. And that doesn't apply to only this specific one, of course. You could debate endlessly about it going through all the lines because it's ultimately subjective to the reader, and the writer himself since R07 didn't really say you needed some sprites for some lines - that's your assumption.

>> No.31285658

by that reasoning you could equally argue that you don't need to read any of the white text, or that you can just imagine your own story and call that 'reading umineko'. it's all just subjective at the end of the day, no?

>> No.31285836

Isnt that what half the fags in these thread already do?
Or at least it seems like it.

>> No.31285859

Except what I said it's implying the text remains unchanged.

>> No.31286107

I mean, we have a certain ridiculous interpretation in this thread from the one-who-shall-be-not-named, and is still a result of reading Umineko with original graphics, if I remember correctly.

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Don't care still like em

>> No.31286264

What exactly is red truth?

>> No.31286413

Spoilers form the author
if some cat say a red truth doubt about it

>> No.31286473

What's the consensus on Confessions of the Golden Witch?
After reading it myself I think granting a proper depiction on Yasu's mindset going into the events is actually interesting but I'm uncertain if its really necessary almost. I almost feels like it removes some of the magic of the series.

>> No.31286499


for this shit manga Battler really forgot Yasu

>> No.31286530

It's not bad, but gives the wrong impression. Although that's on the reader, and many readers are retards.

>> No.31286593

An absolute truth that you cannot reject outright, at best you can interpret it differently if you suspect it involves wordplay.
It's necessary because otherwise both the witch's game and the author's story can just be denied in its entirety on the basis that you don't know which parts you are supposed to believe in.

>> No.31286665

But the cat can't lie in red either.

>> No.31286667

What impressions would you say are taken wrongly?
The depiction of Yasu's mindset seemed pretty clear cut and understandable to follow.

>> No.31286747

Pretty good. Answers some important questions and gives some good background. Not like i could ever sympathize with an incestuous mentally ill tranny though. Basically Confessions was good at doing its job, but the solution it was meant to portray kinda sucked. That's my biggest gripe with Umineko.

>> No.31286768

But how can Ikuko can use it in the 'real' world?

>> No.31286781

It gets misinterpreted as proof of Yasu's biological gender

>> No.31286818

She can't and indeed it's not like the audience could tell, it's just to make sure you don't doubt the diary's contents.

>> No.31286864

I still do though. Aunt Eva is a lying cunt, she may have just used red ink to trick her readers.

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>> No.31286998

Yasu is simply horribly inbred

>> No.31287102

The diary is just a COBOL manual in a fancy binding.
It is there purely to humiliate Ange.

>> No.31287122

Does /jp/ approve of the Russian brand of Umineko autism?

>> No.31287135

incest monster have many problems like late or absence of puberty

>> No.31287147

But Anon, the red truth exists specifically so you understand that you don't have to doubt this part. Can't have a mystery or any other kind of story if you don't trust the author.

>> No.31287259

I trust the author (Ryu07), I just don't trust the red truth. It was Beatrice who invented and introduced it to Battler, not the author.

>> No.31287284

>i trust the authority
>i dont trust proofs


>> No.31287430

Yes. The witches are cute.

>> No.31287434

It's shown that it's impossible to lie even unintentionally with the red truth when Battler accidentally tries it.

>> No.31287542

This might've been an act to fool the audience. Battler already succumbed to the witch in episode 2 after all. Everything he says and does after that is very unreliable.

>> No.31287568

How can you say you trust Ryu07 if you doubt that much?

>> No.31287707

I draw a line between fiction and reality.
A story with the purpose of confusing its readers through narrative tricks is not equivalent to the author directly lying to his audience.

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>that one moment in 04:13 where Ange gets humiliated by EVA and Virgilia as Battler watches

>> No.31287933

But that implies you need a way to discern between fiction and reality, and in the case of Umineko, we have unreliable narration, wordplay and all the sort of trickery involved. To make the game fair and the story understandable, colored truths are introduced as a reliable weapon that can be used by either side.
Or are you just going to say "fuck the rules, I choose what to believe"?

>> No.31288278

>are you just going to say "fuck the rules, I choose what to believe"
Well, that's what Battler did and he won in the end.

>> No.31288331

Technically, but the ending was more about how interpret the story than straight up denying the rules. No red truth was proven to be false after all, just that they don't matter as much as a certain cat believed.

>> No.31288416

>Natsuhi was a pure woman
>proceeds to throw a child off a cliff
>lies to her entire familiy about their dad
Yeah, I don't trust them.

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Are we getting a thread per day, now?

>> No.31288734

Usually threads would last for several days. It's like this right now because of the holiday season.

>> No.31288803

Are you implying that 4chan is filled with schoolkids?

>> No.31288935

Yeah, I know. I just prefer when the thread (and the board) are slow. I was just suprised. it wasn't that fast, before, on holidays...
But it can't be help with what is happening on the board and the newfrens we got from the new Higu anime. It also got fast because of the /v/tards last year.

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After finishing Ciconia I have to say that I really liked it. I heard many mixed opinions about it on /a/ and /jp/, but the build-up of the world and characters looks really promising to me.
Imo it's honestly a better start than Onikakushi or Legend.

Are there any generally accepted or completely outrageous theories I should know?
I don't think Ryukishi07 will go for the
>it's all fictional
trope again even though or especially because the whole sci-fi setup basically screams that we can't trust the narrative.
Is Miyao male??

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K1 is a lucky bastard

>> No.31289667

Well semantically the red truth is meaningless, since several times it strained language to it's breaking point and beyond with wordgames. If it can arbitrarily redefine "person" and "dead", who's to say it doesn't redefine EVERYTHING?

I prefer to look at the story from the sole perspective of intuition, basically rotating the chessboard, the red text serves some kind of purpose, and part of that is obviously trying to make us believe it blindly so we can get tricked. I mean in the end it was at best a distraction, or possibly some bullshit Beatrice came up with in a panic when Battler stopped listening to her.

>> No.31289706

It is possible to use wordplay in the red truths, the point is just that you cannot directly contradict them.

>> No.31289821

Miyao is a girl(female) with a fertile vagina.
Everyone is inside the Matrix, living in a simulation of the past after going through the machine and getting BLUE'D
Prophesies are just data from the real past which become inevitable in the pseudo-timeloop.
Wonders are artifacts of simulated reality
CPPs are literally multiple people crammed into one virtual avatar to save processor time
Koshka is Rika
Jayden is the traitor
Chloe is a pornstar
Miyao is Jestress
Sekmet is Keropoyo

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finished Umineko a week ago and something still confuses me. what was the significance of Beatrice raising one of her hands back in the end of EP4 ???? since bern and lambda commented on how big of a trick it was.

>> No.31289944

You can use "wordplay" to say directly contradicting things all you want. Like how Battler is AND ISN'T Asumu's son in the red text, depending on exactly what you mean by son. This exact example actually kills Battler temporarily by denying his existence, showing that that kind of bullshit pseudo-contradiction is totally on the table and has equivalent effect to the ACTUAL truth.
Basically, I think that canonically, a sufficiently skilled witch could reinterpret any amount of damning red text to whatever she wanted and become effectively immune to it's power.
>>>/i/+did+not+murder+him , he just HAPPENED to die after I stabbed him in the heart. Really, it was just bad luck!

>> No.31289959

Jayden is Hanyuu.

>> No.31289980

So Miyao is a girl, but Jayden is a faggot.

>> No.31290036

Are reverse traps gay?
But yes, in the AOU being a faggot is your patriotic duty!

>> No.31290091

There's no really good theory rn. There are some correlations with The Revelations but those aren't really theories, just "wow this is literally the bible".
There are more hints to Miyao being female, since 1) Meow's gender isn't one Jayden wouldn't like 2) Most GK are female, Miyao is one of the strongest so he probably is female. Let's also remember that (according to the epilogue) Miyao was probably created to be the strongest GK, if females are indeed superior in P3, I see no reason for him to being male.

>> No.31290093

He's constantly having doubts, and they are telling him that it doesn't matter if there is a cock, as long as there's love.

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>> No.31290269

jayden fucks miyao's butthole and gives him prostate orgasms

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miyao fucks jayden's butthole and this happens

>> No.31290466

Are you pretending not to know what’s happening outside this thread?

>> No.31290516

You now remember that PHASE 2 Is never ever

>> No.31290524

Miyao insists on taking it in the ass when she has a pussy.

>> No.31290716

>flat girl pretending to be a trap to attract a mate
>"wtf you lied to me! where's the feminine dick?"
human sexuality is so interesting

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>Koshka is Rika
You sure about that?

>> No.31291548

I made many theories actually, even if we can't froesee what will happen in future episodes we still can theorize about what we saw in the first chapter.

>> No.31292435

Are you implying that 4chan is NOT filled with schoolkids?

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tasty hair decorations

>> No.31293338

I'm only here cause I missed out on that kind of development

>> No.31293574

I'm reading episode 8 of Umineko, and does Ange ever stop being a retard?

>> No.31293608

That would mean that Ange stops being Ange,so not a chance.

>> No.31293958

I love the statements on same-sex love in Ciconia.
It was a brave decision of Ryukishi07 to include a lecture on sexual freedom in a visual novel filled with muslim characters.

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What people describe as DID are actually AI engrams part of a collective of a bigger thing. I think Seshat it's AI and controls something on a global scale.

>> No.31294935

it's to early to speculate about where the story as a whole is going, but there are plenty of plausible theories about what twists Ryukishi might employ with the sci-fi elements he has introduced.
>keropoyo is malware that installs backdoors right into your brain, mines your personal information and has the ability to sap processing power to perform advanced computations like what Seshat used to overwhelm that one security system
>with multiple personalities that have the ability to hide information from and suppress each other, there's lots of room for unreliable narration and for characters to inadvertently divulge information to the wrong person
>same thing with vr chatrooms, you never know who you're really talking to - at the most extreme you might think you're having a meeting with all the gauntlet knights, when in reality it's justMiyao simulating multiple "characters" simultaneously. gauntlet knights we never saw in person might not actually exist / they might look very different from their avatars
>34s lab is probably not a real location at all, would explain why the scientists are immortal for one thing

>> No.31295080

Why couldn't the anime be like this?

>> No.31295318

All interesting concepts...
I sincerely hope we'll hear about phase two before the new year. Isn't there an event on new year's eve?

>> No.31296179

>>>31285330 #
>The point is that you can interpret the same sentence in the same way whether you see that CG, the Battler sprites or a fucking black screen with only words on it.
That's not true. The original sprite forces you to interpret it a certain way and makes sure nobody can interpret it any other way. The CG opens the possibility of some people interpreting it differently, which wasn't intended at all.

>> No.31296287

In the end it's not really important at all, because you will still interpret it by context alone.

>> No.31296323

what did he mean by this

>> No.31296393

That the sprite or CG is actually less important than, you know, the text itself and the context given by it.

>> No.31296452

there's less information in the sprites, but insofar as they do provide context for interpretation they're just as important as a line of narration that provides a hint.

>> No.31296456

The entire section where Jayden worries that Meow might be male literally ends with her strongly implying she's female, which explains Miyao's attitude as well. People just miss it because Ryuukishi played them and put them in a certain state of mind that made them miss the obvious implications of Meow's words. And discord SJWs missed it too because they want her to have a dick and project onto her.

>> No.31296908

>make Yasu male - everyone believes he's female
>make Miyao female - everyone believes she's male
Sasuga Ryukishi07!

>> No.31296981

>make Yasu male - everyone believes he's female
kinda the other way around

>> No.31297343

>Is Miyao male?
Is Miyao even androgynous? To me, he clearly looks like an underdeveloped female teenager. There is nothing ambiguous or unusual about his appearance.

Meow said that her sex isn't one that would bother Jayden at all, but she refuses to reveal it because it would affect Miyao. Clearly Miyao is insecure about having a pussy and constantly needs to reaffirm his masculinity, despite looking like a twink and barely passing as a guy. Hell, Jayden was raised in a SJW hellhole of a nation, he obviously isn't homophobic. He isn't gay either because the idea of Meow possibly having a dick disturbs him. And yet, he's obsessed with Miyao since the beginning without really knowing why. It's because Miyao is a chick and Jayden unconsciously notices it, despite thinking of him as a guy.

This is what happens when you train your kid to intentionally develop super-DID and permanently fuck up her brain's development. Weaponized mental illness in the name of flying through the sky.

In short, I think Miyao is the main personality because he's more proactive and Meow is a passive nerd. He's ashamed of having a pussy and people finding out. Both are natural personalities and blueyao is a program installed in their selcom to drive them insane.

Miyao being female would also explain why he's not perverted like the other WTC protagonists, even though he clearly finds Lingji and Maricarmen attractive. He lacks testosterone and is used to seeing his pussy and small tits, so he's not that eager to see others. There is even a line directly taking about this!

Another thing that would confirm Miyao is a girl is the heavy theme of reproduction present throughout the story and a couple tips. The series is named after storks, for fuck's sake. I predict an EVA style ending where Jayden and Miyao are the last survivors and must repopulate the Earth as the new Adam and Eve.

>> No.31297389

I wish 4chan was full of schoolgirls humiliating themselves with their elementary school tier grammar.

>> No.31297532

Jayden is willingly using brain filters, he literally lives in an SJW dystopia. That's why he was easily convinced that his gf having a dick wouldn't be a big deal, despite being disturbed by it at first. Doesn't mean he's a faggot.

That whole scene was meant to be an exploration of AOU bluepilling and also misdirection for Miyao's true sex.

>> No.31297616

>I predict an EVA style ending where Jayden and Miyao are the last survivors and must repopulate the Earth as the new Adam and Eve.
Hopefully not, that's overdone even in VNs.

>> No.31297695

Phase 2 is next December

>> No.31297727

>Miyao wears a roman skirt because pants would evidence the complete lack of bulge
Sasuga Ryookeeshee.

>> No.31298281

Trannies have tunnel vision, more news at 11.

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>> No.31298467

Yeah? They are annoying faggots that keep ruining everything they touch. Do you expect me to ignore them?

>> No.31298523

I'd prefer it if you didn't keep going on rants about them out of nowhere, yes.

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Higurashi Gou solution

>> No.31298792

>Both are natural personalities and blueyao is a program installed in their selcom to drive them insane.
Did you miss how Toujirou only acknowledges Miyao and keeps talking about his "son"? If any of the personalities was the original one, it would be Meow. But their "father" never mentions this.

>> No.31298809

Fuuuck! I just reached the scene where Gunhild and her old friend talk about their past and Maya and how they haven't heard from her lately and right in the next scene you learn what happened to her and how she became an involuntary secondary secretary!
Why is Ciconia so dark?? I actually want the Three Kings to destroy humanity now.

>> No.31298856

>cultural advange country where social construct like gender didnt exist is a corrupted nation commanded by Rapists.
literrally a realist game

>> No.31298903

Fuck you, that may be true but I didn't want Maya to be treated like that!

>> No.31298931

you will take the meds
you will install the thought filters
you will give up your reproductive rights
you will live as we tell you to live

and you will be happy

>> No.31298950

how can Gunhilde ,a mediocre soldier, obtain a place into warcats anon-kun?

>> No.31298970

going out on a limb here, hard work and the power of frienship?

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without rape, it cannot be seen

>> No.31299119

We know, Kinzo.

>> No.31299232

If Battler and chick Beato's was supposed to represent Kinzo's/Kuwadorian Beatrice relationship you can say that it wasn't proper "rape", Kinzo didn't force himself on anyone, he just raised the kid to be an onahole which is slightly less worse than the worst case scenario.

>> No.31299558

Sex with Piece

>> No.31299568

Drinking Piece's piss...

>> No.31299640

So that's what ピース really means

>> No.31299652

Ciconia just got 100% more dark at this point even though it already showed the "experiments" on Koshka and the brainwashed scientists in the underground laboratory.
There's something horrifying yet somehow alluring about the prospect of young, innocent girls being forced to accept prostitution as their only option left in life.

>> No.31299670

You figured out the truth.

>> No.31299865

always happened
all the singers,actress, models,ecc... all successfull women were raped anon.

this is the sad reality.
imagine this scene

there is this girl on tv, someone powerfull like her , so she is forced to being raped if she doesnt want lost her position or in the worst case if she doesnt want be killed.

>> No.31300033

>Ciconia just got 100% more dark at this point even though it already showed the "experiments" on Koshka and the brainwashed scientists in the underground laboratory.
In that case, Maja is lucky.

>> No.31300085

there is nothing worst than a rape

if you get killed you stop suffering , but if you are raped for the rest of your life you will be a raped person and you will never forget the pain of this expirience

Rape is an eternal torture

>> No.31300086

>Maja is lucky
How is she lucky?!

>> No.31300202

She got experimented in the lab AND possibly raped... I don't think she's lucky at all... Ciconia's world is fucked up.

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>> No.31300260

I can't wait for Phase 2 to be a 20 hours rape session...

>> No.31300263

I mean women are adapted to being raped though. They can quickly get wet on those situations to prevent further damage. Thanks evolution!
And it is pretty easy for our brains to block traumatic experiences...

>> No.31300436

>They can quickly get wet on those situations to prevent further damage
That's why you gotta fuck them in the ass. Otherwise most of the fun is gone.

>> No.31300439

literrally disguting
all rape victimis, must going to hispital to fix wounds

what are you speaking about?
thanks european union everything become rape and all stats lose meaning.

Rapist make laws to protect rapist
impalation is the only rigth punishment for rapists

>> No.31300514

You're thinking of monkeys. They don't have dignity so they can't be humiliated.
Imagine if there were a species of humanoid-level intelligence insects descended from Mantises. The males would still have the impulse to let themselves be devoured after mating, and the females to do the devouring, but it would be an alien and abhorrent desire to both.

>> No.31300517
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I wonder what's going on in the /jp/ fragment tod--

>> No.31300528
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Ange is a grumpy virgin!

>> No.31300545

This was addressed in a previous thread. Toujirou was talking to Meow during the time Miyao zoned out and skipped the whole meal.

>> No.31300608

>the original one
There is no original personality, they have congenital DID. The training increased it, but there was no point when only one of them existed. That's what the C in CPP stands for.

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ANALyzing the implications behind rape is a really intellectual thing to do.
After all only those worthy of it can discuss and investigate those forbidden subjects.

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>> No.31300700

>her old friend
That's her factory sister. The fact that she introduced this business owner as her friend implies she's actually faking her age and doesn't want Miyao and Jayden to know she's 20-something. Saying they are sisters would give it away because factory born siblings can't possibly have different ages.

>> No.31300758
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hottest scene in the entire story
why aren't there more doujins about it?

>> No.31300760

Gunhild implies she did even worse things than Maja to obtain her position and get access to high quality training to improve her mediocre talent. That's why she wants to forget all the "work" she had to do. It wasn't worth it at all.

>> No.31300793

Italianon keeps confirming he's an SJW tranny. Good job, faggot.

>> No.31300809
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Going where no one is willing to go.
Exploring those boundaries which were never meant to be explored...
That is the job of a true detective.

>> No.31300818

No she was repeatedly treated right by Amakusa in high end hotels during their journey

>> No.31300829

>NTR herself
>to not be a SJW i must allow other men to rape my gf
fuck off cuck

>> No.31300850

>You're thinking of monkeys. They don't have dignity so they can't be humiliated.
Dignity is a social construct. An unfortunate side-effect of our increased intelligence and awareness. It can be beaten out of girls so they enjoy rape again without shame. That's what humiliation is all about.

>> No.31300891

Ok Ange.

>> No.31300903

I mean, in the end Gunhild at least was able to become a gauntlet knight while Maya is forced to live as a sex slave for the rest of her life.

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Don't worry Ange, we will believe in your delusional fantasies if it makes you happy.

>> No.31301057

>Dignity is a social construct.
it's a higher function. If I were to bonk you and give you braindamage I could turn you into a subhuman existence that way as well. your dignity would still be real.

>> No.31301119

Let's talk about Satoko, to add to the topic at hand

>> No.31301217

Gunhild said in one TIP that she wishes someone like Miyao had been there to tell her she's a talentless shitter and make her quit, because she became a GK at the cost of her dignity and years of stress. This is probably why she keeps bringing up the nostalgia of her teen years, she's in her 20s and is faking being a teenager. She wasted all those years training for this shit job, studying like crazy and getting fucked in the ass by military officials to remain a blue growth target.

>> No.31301262
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This is for real.
It is set up in the initial scene where Amakusa is introduced when he throws her into a car as if they were dancing.
Prior to this we know he has been hitting on her and this is why Eva fired him.
The scene where Ange summons up Mammon and the other stakes in the hotel room is just a long metaphor for him ‘gouging’ into her.

>> No.31301326

>Koshka is Rika
wrong that's MaRIKArmen

>> No.31301418

>Prior to this we know he has been hitting on her and this is why Eva fired him.
True, we can at least agree that he might have a soft spot for her.

>> No.31301428

satoshi in a cow outfit

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Haha. If you say so.

>> No.31301681
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The manga suggests he is still with her many decades later too

>> No.31301843

>The scene where Ange summons up Mammon and the other stakes in the hotel room is just a long metaphor for him ‘gouging’ into her.
This is so absurd it might just be true.

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Okay I believe you, but my Winchester don't.

>> No.31301884

>and getting fucked in the ass by military officials
Is this canon? Bros, I think I love Ciconia.

>> No.31301929

Unreliable rabbit

>> No.31301963
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No you can't say that!

>> No.31301981

This one is even less reliable

>> No.31302039
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What about this one?

>> No.31302065

This one had a sad life.
Totally unreliable

>> No.31302081
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>This one had a sad life.
>Totally unreliable
Just like Ange.

>> No.31302136

Ange did peek into the room where Amakusa was laying on the sofa before she summoned the others if I remember correctly.
Guess she really did take his 7 inch stake after her fingers weren't enough.

>> No.31302149

That one is more reliable but the aiming is off.

>> No.31302165

I want to BULLY this rabbit.

>> No.31302198
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At least everyone is completely in agreement that Amakusa x Ange is basically fact

>> No.31302222
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Say it in red.

>> No.31302232

i never saw Yukari with him

>> No.31302236

Pull their ears!

>> No.31302238

>Wears eyepatch
>Lack of depth perception
I am an idiot for not noticing sooner.

>> No.31302254

How is she even able to fit all of that in her anus? Did she practice on her own or was it her bullies fault that Ange ended up loving thick, long objects up her ass?

>> No.31302288

are you going to turn into another italianon or ren/a/kek? are you going to try to tyrannize this thread until people tolerate your whacko ship?

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>> No.31302322

That's one hell of vague red

>> No.31302397

No way. these threads are hard enough with Italianon.

>> No.31302399

A mix of both, but mostly just her being lonely and horny.

>> No.31302436
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Yes it is

>> No.31302460

>Amakusa gave her the treatment she deserved
>shoots her
Dare I say, based?

>> No.31302476
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Of course someone as incompetent as Ange couldn't use the red text properly and you fell for my trap!
I will keep on knocking you down with my red truths. Delusional brat.

>> No.31302497

Those that dare insult M.Zakky deserve no less.

>> No.31302520

The bullies took photos and blackmailed her into breaking her own ass. They didn't do it, they forced her to do it herself while biting her lips in pain.

>> No.31302536

>ange unironically internalized her victim-status to the extent where she accepted that her death was deserved
pathetic! sad! not sure about lewd.

>> No.31302563
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He has a big gun.

>> No.31302617

>breaking her own ass
How did she even do that?
A human anus has more storage space than your average mailbox.

>> No.31302623
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>Get to this text
>Immediately think of Ange humiliation
This place has ruined me.

>> No.31302685

The after class scene where Ange is forced to read a humiliating letter kinda implies bullies made all those humiliation pastas a reality afterwards. We don't see the scene end, it just cuts off after she erases the stakes. And the whole scene focuses on how Ange has given up on her life and won't resist anymore, which is why she reads the letter and says she wants to die out loud. She's broken at that point and the school is mostly empty during that time except for the bullies, so they probably took advantage of her temporary mindbreak to make her do embarrassing things and take photos.

>> No.31302726
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>> No.31302767

Imagine Ange completely naked in class, surrounded by her bullies. Imagine her trying to shove a whole stake up her asshole while the bullies cheer and laugh, counting down from 10 and clapping to encourage her!

>> No.31302780

>Satoshi has a cute little sister - never rapes her
>Battler has a cute little sister - never rapes her
>Miyao has a cute little sister - never rapes her
Why is Ryukishi07 so bad at writing sibling relationships? Is he an onlychild or a hardcore vanilla siscon?
It feels intentional at this point.

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>h-hold up ojou-chan, don't point that gun at me. I'm your beloved bf, right? you redeemed me through the power of being an easy woman, remember? it's practically canon

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>> No.31302835

>>Battler has a cute little sister - never rapes her
You sure about that?

>> No.31302857

you may enjoy catcher in the rye
he rapes his sister, phoebe

>> No.31302866
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This is fine.
That ending is a bad end anyway.

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>> No.31302929
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There were no good ends, and there won't be any.

>> No.31302931

Watch Digimon Adventure. Hosoda confirmed in an interview that Taichi and Hikari are canonically an incestuous couple at the ages of 11 and 8.

>> No.31302953
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Now we need an Ange version of this.

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>> No.31303621

Umineko episode 8 is gonna make me cry fuck

>> No.31303629

Not that anon, but the reason that claiming "rape is worse than death" makes you look like an sjw is that they say that shit all the time to make women sound more oppressed.

No one is saying you should let people rape your gf. They're saying that if she does get raped that you shouldn't tell her she's better off dead.

>> No.31303688
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This is the most likely answer. And regardless of how much italianon whines and complains he will never be right.

>> No.31303843

look here faggot
the real truth >>31298560

>> No.31303893

Proof by assertion isn't proof.

>> No.31303917

Very nice theory!
But you don't need to mention that tranny or discuss with him in anyway. You know you are just going to encourage him to flood the thread with pointless gibberish.

>> No.31303992

fuck off Goat
his theory without proof or else is good and my who respect Knox and DIne not?

fuck off Goat

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>> No.31304253

>his theory without proof or else is good and my who respect Knox and DIne not?
Why are you obsessed with Dine?
Do you realize many of his rules fuck you over?

>3.There must be no love interest in the story. To introduce amour is to clutter up a purely intellectual experience with irrelevant sentiment. The business in hand is to bring a criminal to the bar of justice, not to bring a lovelorn couple to the hymeneal altar.

>16.A detective novel should contain no long descriptive passages, no literary dallying with side-issues, no subtly worked-out character analyses, no "atmospheric" preoccupations. Such matters have no vital place in a record of crime and deduction. They hold up the action, and introduce issues irrelevant to the main purpose, which is to state a problem, analyze it, and bring it to a successful conclusion. To be sure, there must be a sufficient descriptiveness and character delineation to give the novel verisimilitude; but when an author of a detective story has reached that literary point where he has created a gripping sense of reality and enlisted the reader's interest and sympathy in the characters and the problem, he has gone as far in the purely "literary" technique as is legitimate and compatible with the needs of a criminal-problem document. A detective story is a grim business, and the reader goes to it, not for literary furbelows and style and beautiful descriptions and the projection of moods, but for mental stimulation and intellectual activity--just as he goes to a ball game or to a cross-word puzzle. Lectures between innings at the Polo Grounds on the beauties of nature would scarcely enhance the interest in the struggle between two contesting baseball nines; and dissertations on etymology and orthography interspersed in the definitions of a cross-word puzzle would tend only to irritate the solver bent on making the words interlock correctly.

Dine's rules are completely useless and irrelevant to Ryukishi's works.

>> No.31304286

What if Maria is such an autist that she molests roree Ange without thinking of the consequences?

>> No.31304290
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It is an Ange heavy episode
Which means it is one of the best.

>> No.31304355


SHANNON X GEORGE ,since Kanon x Jessica scene are less than fingers in an hand.
Battler never had a love scene in the games and George's love scene are used for his motive

all the rules of dine are respected in a REAL SOLUTION

>> No.31304375

Do you realize that Itrannyanon is simply a troll that posts easily disproven theories to bait people like you into replying?

You should be ashamed of yourself for replying. Just ignore him. He doesn't give a fuck about Umineko and will reply to you without even reading your post. Nobody else will read it either because it's a reply to that faggot. Many anons are actually filtering all Itrannyanon reply chains.

Literally not a single person will read any of that shit you wrote.

>> No.31304386

why did I unspoiler that post? my poor brain.

>> No.31304392

Can anyone post the theme that plays when Mario regains his dignity in Ciconia?

>> No.31304456


>> No.31304462

I just wanted to see what he would reply to that.
An experiment of sorts. You know, like when you test NPC dialogues on a videogame. I know the charm hides any chain of replies related to him.

>> No.31304471

Ange's scenes are the most interesting scenes on the first reread.

>> No.31304508



>> No.31304636
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I tried it with a slightly different flavor

>> No.31304644
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I am considering crowdfunding keyboards that have no caps locks keys to send to Italy.

>> No.31304645

Can you call it an experiment when the result is a known constant? You're just retarded.

>> No.31304682

Battler no!

>> No.31304699

Don't make it harder to filter him.
Consider crowdfunding a hit on him instead.

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>> No.31304716
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This thread needs some Angekuusa.

>> No.31304750

Why is everyone in this general obsessed with Ange?

>> No.31304774
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Appears to be easily humiliated.
Also best character

>> No.31304809

Humilation + javascript memes

>> No.31304826

>Ange with glasses
Oh no she's very cute!

>> No.31304833

In the end, all of these threads are about humiliation.

>> No.31304839
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>> No.31304886

Why do lolis even have tongues? Disgusting! Slimy! Squishy! Saliva-covered! Wet! How can they live with themselves?

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>> No.31304923

He's gradually revealing his identity anyway.
You need to find a 1.83cm tall Italian maths student with obvious mental health issues.
Some would say he meant to use metres.

>> No.31304953
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Pic related and the fact that she appeals to lots of fetishes so anyone can take a bite out of her.

>> No.31305034
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biting Ange

>> No.31305186
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>Not for sale
Why. . .

>> No.31305289

I've just started playing the fourth chapter of Higurashi. Are the choices which were added in for the console release worth playing with or should I disable them?

>> No.31305302
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She has multiple states that cater to everyone. She has both loli and adult stages, wheras everyone else is fixed. Mix that with her attitude shifts of high-and-mighty, vulnerable, earnest, endearing, humiliating, and you have a fine selection from a single character. On top of it she's a brocon? Shows her ass on a volume cover? My, you'd have to either be religiously faithful to your waifu or have a damaged libido to not want to do anything to her.
Even with all the humiliation posting and piss-easy degradation she seems to demand by her very existence, I can imagine a wholesome and fullfilling life with her as well. She's like a cat box of possibilities.

>> No.31305333

I wonder what changed to make /a/ a better place for actual discussion compared to /jp/. Did I go to an alternate timeline at some point?

>> No.31305346

Eh, they are short cheap bad endings, seeing them at worst would waste some seconds of your life.

>> No.31305383

Why don’t you tell us what is wrong

>> No.31305420

Ange literally gets her clothes torn apart, her armpits and butt crack licked and her ass cheeks bitten by goats in EP8 after she reads the book. They literally eat her alive and she says things like "maybe they didn't like the taste of my clothes" and "licking all over my naked body" as she narrates her own humiliation and vore.

>> No.31305434

I think being given a choice at all impacts the atmosphere of the reading experience.

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>> No.31305498

>I think being given a choice at all impacts the atmosphere of the reading experience.
Yeah but Higurashi wasn't made with that in mind. The bad endings are just your standard "x" person dies and they react.

>> No.31305519

that's what I mean, they change the way you think about the story in an unfortunate way

>> No.31305555
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I wonder who could be behind this post...

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>> No.31305580

Memes aside, could this be confirmation that the bullies did lewd things to her, as implied here? >>31302685

Seriously. The goats in that scene are not normal goat sprites. They are her classmates with goat heads. Is this somehow implying they tore apart her clothes and humiliated her at some point?

Why even make the goats schoolgirls AND have that stripping vore scene otherwise? How coincidental.

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oh shit meant to reply to >>31305333
I ruined my own joke.

>> No.31305600

Rena needs to lay off the Angeburgers

>> No.31305759
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>> No.31305761

This makes a lot of sense, but I kinda want 18yo Ange to be a degradation-virgin so she can experience the humiliation for the first time with Amakusa.

Hmmmm. Maybe she repressed that memory to avoid suicidal thoughts?

>> No.31305807

I was reading about witch hunts in Papua New Guinea and all I could think about was humiliation posts. This thread ruined me.

>> No.31305848
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Ange is a walking mess of constant suicidal thoughts at all times
Regardless, Amakusa x Ange happened anyway

>> No.31305911

No Amakusa, don't eat Ange's legs!

>> No.31305934
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~The End~

>> No.31305943

female hands drew this

>> No.31305955

>not becoming aware of humiliation and the shame of the human condition as soon as you first laid eyes on your super cute, sassy and seemingly flawless 5th grade loli crush
Have you been living under a rock, anon?

>> No.31306070
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It is permissible to allow Battler as well as Amakusa as incest itslike breathing to Ushiromiyas

>> No.31306075

stop being american

>> No.31306086

Did you guys really have loli crushs?
I thought girls were stupid until middle school.

>> No.31306104

Maybe that too was part of Battler's truth. We will never know.

>> No.31306150

He's just a pedo.

>> No.31306178

You're autistic as fuck mate, my first crush was in year six.

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>> No.31306238

That's kinda faggy, anon. I guess you never met a Lolita type in elementary school, the kind of girl that turns male classmates into lifelong pedos.

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How is this a boy

>> No.31306335

Does this mean extremely cute lolis with too much sass should be legally obligated to fuck all their classmates to prevemt them from holding onto a crush and becoming pedoes?

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What a barbaric term.
I prefer the word "cunnyseurs".

>> No.31306408

ange is so cute and cuddly i want to fuck her mouth

>> No.31306426

Let me guess, are you American? Because there's no way a kid wouldn't want to fuck his cousins in slavic countries like mine. They are way too hot and barely any of them are fat.

>> No.31306485

Either tone down the cheekiness or get punched in the face until her cuteness levels are acceptable.

>> No.31306489

I didn't have anything resembling a crush until I was 15.

>> No.31306518

I meant classmates, lmao.

>> No.31306542

sure thing anon

>> No.31306552

I had a crush when I was about 10. It was one of my teachers though. She was a bit too nice with me.

>> No.31306553

Too late, Anon. We know the truth now

>> No.31306564

Jesus. How? Do you have any clear memories from before that or were you a philosophical zombie?

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>> No.31306589

Stop typing with your dick...
Either way not that I mind. Based tastes.

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>> No.31306713

I was just spergy.

>> No.31306783

That doesn't explain anything. I was spergy too and I'd had three or four crushes by fifteen

>> No.31306824

Cousins are better than classmates or imoutos.

>she's related to you but not as closely as a sister, so there is still some mystery about her body, her personality at home and her private secrets
>she's like a random stranger or classmate but there is a blood connection between you and her, which means you have an excuse to meet her at family reuinions and holidays, even if she doesn't particularly care about you
>if she's literally your classmate, you are guaranteed a female friend and possible love interest just because she's your cousin, even though your initial relationship is no different from a normal classmate
>if you are much older, her mom will probably tell you embarrassing secrets about her, such as her first visit to the cunny doctor or that she pissed the bed at age 10 and was mortified, completely disregarding her dignity in favor of gossip material
Deny this. Cousins are superior.

>> No.31306861

I'm a total sperg and I literally thought about the mindblowig fact that my 11 year old classmate had a stupid loli ass. Being an autist is no excuse.

>> No.31306952

not him, but I don't think I had a crush until I was around 16, hard to develop romantic feelings for anyone when you spend your breaks hiding from your classmates in the school bathroom (taking your stuff with you so it doesn't land in the trash, of course) and all the girls you have contact with act like you're infectuous.

>> No.31306999

I remember my aunt telling me about my cute cousin's bedroom being a total mess and it made me feel like I was prying into an embarrassing side of her that she really, really wouldn't want me to know about. I couldn't believe my super cute loli cousin was a slob and didn't clean her room. Kinda pathetic!

>> No.31307842

This hits too close to home, except it actually doesn't because I was a literal chad in grade school.

>> No.31308043

don't care, this version made for an amazing rereread of Umineko

>> No.31308118

You probably didn't get any lolis to humiliate themselves for you, fag.

>> No.31308159

I mean that's pretty close to what Ryukishi intended indeed
Hence why the closed room of EP6 logic error can be defined as the whole universe if you try hard enough

>> No.31308216

My favourite ship between 2 consenting adults

>> No.31308324

Ange is stuck as a bullied humiliatee in her head. She's mentally 13.

>> No.31308344

God damn that's hot

>> No.31308564

Is that why she's so angsty and defiant, thinking it makes her cool? Is she unconsciously trying to act rebellious and make up for not doing do when it was age appropriate, having wasted all that time as a bullied loser without the opportunity to grow and mature with normal experiences and relationships?


>> No.31308736

This is unironically canon. That's why PS3 players don't really understand Ange. Her original sprite made sure to give her a "lost child" vibe and made her face look kinda childish behind all that angst.

PS3 ruined Ange, making her look too mature with a 100% bitchy face that doesn't visibility conceal any immaturity or confusion. She looks unambiguously mature and serious, which doesn't fit with her character.

>> No.31308873

He arrested development of Ushiromiya Angste! Lewd! She's emotionally stunted after years of humiliation! How can she live with herself?

>> No.31308907

Rika looks like an innocent child but is a mentally broken time looper.
Kyrie looks like a smug auntie but is a merciless sociopath.
George looks like a boring glasses guy but is a supreme gentleman skilled at every martial art in the world.
If you think a sprite must display every detail of a characters mentality then you don't understand anything about Ryu07's signature style.

>> No.31309015

EP4 is what happens when a rebellious 13 year old is given the freedom of an adult and loads of money. Now Ange's crazy little adventure makes more sense.

She needs therapy until her mental age catches up to her lewd 18yo body.

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>> No.31309122

You talk like the entire VN is nothing but sprites moving around without any explanation of what the fuck it's going on.

>> No.31309285

because we can remove the sprites and music and translate all of umineko into a book and it would be the same experience right

>> No.31309338

No, but you are the one saying shit like "PS3 players don't really understand Ange". As if they can't fucking read

>> No.31309341

>gentleman skilled at every martial art in the world
He's a fat larper who got gunned down when he tried doing some dumb kick.

>> No.31309360

>If you think a sprite must display every detail of a characters mentality then you don't understand anything about Ryu07's signature style
You are being disingenuous and intentionally misrepresenting my argument.

Your other examples were choices made by Ryuukishi so he could surprise the reader with a character that doesn't fit our initial impression of them. This doesn't apply to Ange because Ryuukishi made sure to include those elements in her original sprite. Removing them goes against the intention of the author and makes people misunderstand Ange for too long, when originally a single glance at her face after reading some of her lines would make her immaturity obvious.

You should be ashamed of resorting to strawmans to defend those awful changes. Have some dignity.

>> No.31309384

im not that anon

>> No.31309453

I'm not saying the experience is ruined, but it's 10% worse. How is that acceptable even if you end up loving Umineko all the same? Your experience was still hampered for no reason.

>> No.31309497

Make experience also got better from those nice drawings and CG
Made a very worthwhile reread

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Everyone except me is a Goat.

>> No.31309529

You realize that such an illogical defense only makes the inferiority of the PS3 more obvious, right? You are literally attacking your own argument when you have to use such dirty and absurd fallacies to support it.

>> No.31309636

>OG autist(s) thinks he can read R07 mind and that shitty drawings from an "artist" who can't even draw correct proportions must be the exact way he envisions the characters
Had my daily dose, <See you again>

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>> No.31309707

PS3 Ikuko ruined her eyes. They made them too small and it ruins these facial expressions.

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Shut the fuck up and post your favorite sprites.

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>> No.31310155

Why does she want to fuck her son?

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So what is the consensus on Featherine? Is she really the biggest winner out of everyone? Is she really grooming and milking Battler's cock to sustain her boredom?

>> No.31310282

i love the milf version of Yasu

>> No.31310689

yasu would never be able to develop this kind of selfconfident, cool, smugly-detached attitude, not after having become a cackling 1000 year old witch. that's a certain promise of a lifelong battle with ptsd right there.

>> No.31310719

this is why Ikuko is her agatha christie personality
the personality of a smug-author

>> No.31311059


I'm watching this and holy fuck. I never noticed the weirdness of the spinal cords twitching and moving, or how the fuck they kept the brains alive during the butchery process.

So all the factory people are zombies? Always thought Chloe didn't really have the skill to make super realistic VRs, she just pulled that zombie apocalypse scenario from her own memory and altered it to feature her surviving on top of a building. She lived through the zombie apocalypse before getting factory'd and that's how she can replicate the atmosphere and smell of the place so vividly.

Also, the VR movie said that the zombies had been around for thousands of years and no insect had been able to eat their flesh. Is this just part of the fiction is did the real world really get zombified for 1000+ years before someone put the people immune to its side effects in the factory jar? Is this what they foreshadowed when they said Chloe's body was immune to the effect of drugs?

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>> No.31311112

There's no subs for the umineko documnetary in the MEGA?
>(20101122) MAG・ネット 第29回 特集「うみねこのなく頃に」

>> No.31311169

Yasu was trying to do something unforgivable to find the courage to kill herself. She couldn't possibly live as Ikuko after indirectly causing the gruesome murders of Maria, Jessica and George. The whole point of her original plan was to get them killed so she would wish to be dead and commit seppuku without chickening out.

>> No.31311182

miyaos boyhole

>> No.31311250

You are replying to someone attempting to replicate the tranny who shall not be named.

>> No.31311270

Holy shit

>> No.31311272

If Ryu actually changes this plot because of Soros' china virus I'm killing someone.

>> No.31311287

Why Ikuko create the press conference?
because she could not endure anymore, her plan was confess everything and then kill herself

if you choice trick ending this is waht happened but if you choice magic ending she finnally decide to live for Battler

>> No.31311610

Fuck, didn't Blueyao say that a medical 8MS gone wrong would cause terrible side effects and make people irrational and decrease their intelligence? ZOMBIES.

Naima. Will become. A disgusting ass zombie. Depressing or lewd?

>> No.31312126

>Koshka is immune to the side effects of the immortality 8MS
>she is already infected with it and that's how they can spread out everything inside her head without killing her

>> No.31312469

Koshka is a zombie and also my wife.

>> No.31312666

Hopefully this means Lingji's head can still be found alive and plugged to the matrix. Shame about that hairy pussy though.

>> No.31313081

hes not going to change the plot because phase 2 wont come out

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Phase 2 will come out.
I choose to BELIEVE.

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>> No.31313218

People just focused too much on the last TIP, the other TIPS are probably just as important.

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It's coming out on new years eve!

>> No.31313458

I think the main flaw of Ciconia is that it doesn't have any high quality lolis.
Naima is a brainlet and probably doesn't even have a nude sprite planned in any phase.
And Rukhi isn't even a real loli, she's just small.

>> No.31313525

Anon he's saving all the loli cast for Phase 2

>> No.31313797

Its coming eventually but not on new years eve.
I'm hoping the (((Virus共产主义他妈的))) sorts itself on early 2021 so that it gets announced on July/August 2021.

>> No.31313974

I don’t like Ciconia much so I was hoping that the Corona virus excuse was just so that R07 can spend time working on other projects. (And I think I’m right considering that he has Gou, Gerokasu, and that new Key VN coming out in the mean time). It’s a bummer that we probably won’t get any new 07th VNs until he gets back to Ciconia, though. I’m gonna pray for a Umineko anime.

>> No.31314114

Do you think R07 is aware that his art is mediocre and only useful for directly conveying his ideas, or do you think he would get upset if people criticized it?

>> No.31314117

is that the same guy who thinks gunhild used to be a guy

>> No.31314225

I imagine R07 has a pretty thick skin by now considering some of the backlash he got from Higurashi and Umineko.

>> No.31314326

I find the artstyle to be very charming in its own way, and it has seen its share of improvements. Though I do think he's aware of the backlash and critique.

>> No.31314497

I agree that he should be able to brush off criticism by now, but I ask because I don't think it's ever been apparent how he feels about his own art. You can see that he's been drawing the same way even before he released a single product. I'm wondering how self-aware he is. He has improved somewhat over time, but how has he perceived it? Does he believe that his art is okay as is because it suits its purpose for illustrating characters? Or does he think it's great and doesn't need improvement?

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>> No.31315110

did you read forgery no.XXX??? he acts self-depreciative about it, but still wants to continue drawing.

>> No.31315201

No, I didn't read it, I guess that answers then. I'm glad he's self-aware.

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I was looking up Ryukishi interviews and came across this which made me cringe super fucking hard, holy shit. This interviewer was a fucking madman.

I don't want to translate it but basically R07 talks about how nowadays nobody writes the kind of closed off island western mansion mysteries like Umineko, then the interviewer immediately lists off a bunch of novels that have been written recently that have a similar present THEN adds a cynical comment about how R07 is such a genius for coming up with such a masterpiece without knowing about these. And then afterwards Ryukishi immediately apologizes, god, it hurts me just to read it, lmao.

I wonder if R07 regrets saying shit like this in these interviews.

>> No.31317038

Damn. Poor guy, he's only human.

>> No.31318261

Why did this make you cringe?
It's not mandatory for authors to know every recent book.

>> No.31318679

At any rate I think you should be aware of certain trends in the mystery genre if you are going to make grand statements about how there hasn't been a type of mystery story created in a long time. And what the interviewer was referring to was a specific trend in mystery novels (新本格ミステリ) that most people would've been aware of if they are mystery novel fans.

Regardless of the content though it made me cringe just because of the interviewer's comment and how R07 immediately backtracked and apologized at the end.

>> No.31318744

Dude's a sperg, cut him some slack. : (

>> No.31319066

More like Cringekishi07

>> No.31320209

probably because nobody has made subs for it yet?

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