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Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:42:19 2009 No.2975453 [Reply] [Original]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:43:19 2009 No.2975458 double bra

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:43:19 2009 No.2975459 http://otakuism.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6199&start=175 I liek this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:43:19 2009 No.2975460 shouldn't she take those off to piss?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:45:19 2009 No.2975466 >>2975460 No, she wears a few more underneath to soak up the urine.

>>	GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Tue Jul 21 17:46:19 2009 No.2975471 A short-sleeved hoodie mini dress?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:48:19 2009 No.2975483 >>2975459 God. It seems like as soon as the users there couldn't back up JAST with even stupid logic, it all devolved into "You guys are sick for wanting loli anyway!".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:49:19 2009 No.2975484 we need a patch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:52:19 2009 No.2975501 Wait, so they really covered up her pussy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:55:19 2009 No.2975523 Hiroshi spied on her while she was pissing.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:07:19 2009 No.2975591

>Someone with actual common sense around here. That's exactly why I'm bringing the subject to see if this censorship was made on a whim or if it will affect everything from now on and what will happen with the previously released titles. Will they continue to sell them like they never broke what PP's statement declared, they will actually censor everything and repeat what the EOCS has done or they will actually think twice before censoring everything based on rules made by the president of EOCS without the consent of most of the companies that are part of it? If you let this go unnoticed, you will regret it.

>@DetectiveConan: Troll harder!

I liek manayagami

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:17:19 2009 No.2975658 >>2975483 tl;dr A lot of them are just making up excuses to blindly support JAST. And avoid people arresting them for pedophilia. Lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:25:19 2009 No.2975700 File: 28 KB, 640x480, girl_in_pants.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I was trying to figure out what was wrong with that picture, and I think the problem is it ain't censored enough. Here ya go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:28:19 2009 No.2975710 >>2975700 facepalm the problem is that there's not enough stars on her shirt to make her more childlike.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:31:19 2009 No.2975720 >>2975700 Looks like she's still exposing herself to me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:41:19 2009 No.2975778 >>2975720 Psst... your epidermis is showing, anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:42:19 2009 No.2975781 >>2975523 Hiroshi is a closet pedo.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:45:19 2009 No.2975797

>B173 M3 and umarekawari, enough is enough. There is persistence, and there is beating a dead horse. Posting once a day for a year or more about how you feel is persistence. Posting 20 or more times a day about it isn't. (Especially since you are mostly saying the same thing in your posts!) You've made it extremely evident how angry you are, and that's your right. However, complaining like this to your fellow forum members is only going to irritate, because we are sick of hearing it. We are all adults here, and can make up our own damned mind about how we feel about what has happened. (In fact, umarekawari, your "I will laugh" remark smacks of trying to force your views on others, giving the impression of "believe as I do, or you'll be sorry".) If you really feel you still need to vent, why don't you take a more direct route and e-mail or PM the company representatives? Better yet, start organizing people so that the asinine laws JAST/GC/PP are worried about are overturned, and the company wouldn't even have to worry about censoring images. That would be a much better use of your time and energy, in my opinion.

>in my opinion

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:48:19 2009 No.2975809 This shit's not as entertaining as it was last night.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:49:19 2009 No.2975814 File: 6 KB, 251x177, 1242416797242.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2975809

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:50:19 2009 No.2975818 I haven't read family project, do they really tone down the lolicon in it? Also doesn't she get her own sex scene anyway?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:56:19 2009 No.2975856 >>2975453 why does she have her panties on while sitting on the toilet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 18:59:19 2009 No.2975867 >>2975856 Because censorship doesn't have to make sense

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:00:19 2009 No.2975871 File: 24 KB, 640x480, girl_in_black_jumper.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2975720 Sorry. Rectified for you. Now Family Project: Good family fun. Thank Lord for my right to censorship!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:01:19 2009 No.2975877 >>2975818 She has 4 of them. Consecutively. The most out of anyone in the game.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:05:19 2009 No.2975893

>>2975871
Sarcasm is ruined when you did it for the second time.

>Forcing someone into going to court? So you are already admiting that it's better to have any kind of censorship than to try to stop it? I'm not even going to bother with any more posts, since you it's not even possible to reason with you without you acting all like "they are attacking this! they are forcing that! they are haters! they are cowards!", and I'm part of a "raid"? :lol: Have fun with your censored eroge and don't bother complaining when it gets worse. We won't have to wait long to see the results of all this boot licking, since there are several releases in the near future.

JAST's official Nitro+ localizations coming to a store near you!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:07:19 2009 No.2975902 >>2975871 Needs MOAR stars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:08:19 2009 No.2975911 >>2975893 I like ManaYagami, umarekawari, and b173 m3. They're pretty cool guys with their getting angry at JAST for me and what not. I sure hope I won't have to see bras and panties all over Saya no Uta.

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Tue Jul 21 19:11:19 2009 No.2975923 Geeze. I was up so late posting in that thread. I feel like I wasted a night of fapping.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:13:19 2009 No.2975940 >>2975923 This is not kawaii at all. Someone with the name of Sakura shouldn't do something like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:14:19 2009 No.2975943 File: 41 KB, 640x480, girl_on_toilet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2975893 Sorry. Here's my ultimate version to make up for that. We cool, bro?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:15:19 2009 No.2975948 >>2975911 You totally missed the point. Shut up and enjoy the drama.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:15:19 2009 No.2975952

>>2975923
I can't believe the stupidity of the people on that forum. After you explained over and over again about how there was no reason legally JAST had to censor, they're still saying shit like
>start organizing people so that the asinine laws JAST/GC/PP are worried about are overturned

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:16:19 2009 No.2975953 I like how people think Jast would be taken to court over the images when you can buy licensed manga that has much more frequent and explicit nudity of underaged characters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:16:19 2009 No.2975956 Has anyone got this on an xdcc bot yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:16:19 2009 No.2975958 >>2975943 I am intruiged.

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Tue Jul 21 19:16:19 2009 No.2975961 >>2975940 Sorry, by fapping, I meant playing with Kero-chan. >>2975952 I know. I can't believe anyone could think JAST would get in trouble for the censored content.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:20:19 2009 No.2975983 >>2975453 Wow, they censored it. I was going to buy it but now I have a reason to pirate it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:21:19 2009 No.2975987 File: 6 KB, 230x200, 1246415857581.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >buying a visual novel >finding out JAST censored it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:22:19 2009 No.2975997 >>2975983 Yeah, those fucking dicks. "18 years old" my ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:23:19 2009 No.2976006 >>2975453 I fucking love being a pirate

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:24:19 2009 No.2976014 >>2975956 FAKKU

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:25:19 2009 No.2976026 File: 302 KB, 497x471, guybrush.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2976006 Me too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:26:19 2009 No.2976031 >>2975952 >start organizing people so that the asinine laws JAST/GC/PP are worried about are overturned Sounds like a good idea to me. Don't expect a small company to be politically pushy. Voting with your wallet only goes so far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:27:19 2009 No.2976039 >>2976026 Jesus christ did guybrush grow a brain tumor or something

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:27:19 2009 No.2976040

It looks really peculiar that she has pantsu on while taking a piss.
Also I like the idea of being able to buy the game, play it and then get a refund. No need for that shit crack. I would never go through the trouble of it, but I can fantasize about the possibility.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:28:19 2009 No.2976052 >>2976040 Force Peter Payne to sign a contract with you. Otherwise it's moot. Them slimey businessman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:28:19 2009 No.2976056 Sauce and synopsis?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:29:19 2009 No.2976058 >>2976040 >No need for that shit crack. I would never go through the trouble of it So you prefer to buy your games and get a refund later on instead of downloading the game in 2 hours and apply the crack within 5 seconds? What are you, retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:30:19 2009 No.2976066 >>2976056 Kikkoman soy sauce. It's good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:30:19 2009 No.2976072 >>2976052 Damn Peter Payne and his silly name. WHY DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO THINK ABOUT PETER PAN AND MAX PAYNE WHENEVER I HEAR IT?!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:31:19 2009 No.2976082 Get me a torrent for the English version. I will make you a patch. And I will make you proud.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:32:19 2009 No.2976086 >>2976082 Expert programmer, is that you?!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:33:19 2009 No.2976094 >>2976082 You can switch the images, but you will never be able to switch the text in relation to these images. And that is terrible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:33:19 2009 No.2976096 >>2976082 >>2976014

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:37:19 2009 No.2976127 I think Peter Payne is a pretty cute looking guy with his kami bandanna. Are there irl pictures of JAST sama?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:38:19 2009 No.2976137 >>2976014 Are not an xdcc bot, nor have it. I was hoping someone could get it on the /jp/ VN bot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:40:19 2009 No.2976145 >>2976086 There are no expert programmers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:40:19 2009 No.2976149 >>2976086 I made the May Club patch, I will make this patch. Should be a simple CG switch since the translation is still the same.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:08:19 2009 No.2976284

[quote="Dalburnan"]Let me ask a very VALID question here. To those of you who are STILL bitching about a couple images being censored, with the offer of a FULL refund with no strings attached, and a full public apology that VERY clearly stated it was THEIR fault and they're sorry for it, what exactly is it you're after?

What's your agenda? For them to uncensor their images in this game? For them to bend over and let you have at it? Well, considering their reasons for taking this very MINOR form of censorship, they're covering their own asses from the possibility of getting slapped with lawsuits. Chances of it happening? Slim. But a chance is still a chance. I'd rather a company cover all it's bases even if there's the slightest bit of risk, it shows good business sense. If you can't even grasp the reason behind WHY they made the decision they did, you need to step back and take a moment to look at the bigger picture. If they are censoring because of fear of the laws, you need to take all your bitching and fighting to the people who make the laws, not those that follow them.

Not happy with it being censored, don't buy it. Not happy with your refund? Don't pre-order game anymore. Still not good enough for you? Don't buy any more of their games. And if that's STILL not enough for you.... You've got much bigger issues to sort through than some uncensored images in a game.[/quote]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:12:19 2009 No.2976318 >>2976284 Good thing I'm a pirate.

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Tue Jul 21 20:13:19 2009 No.2976326 >>2976284 >>what exactly is it you're after? That future games not receive the same treatment. I thought this would be obvious. >>getting slapped with lawsuits. Chances of it happening? Non-existent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:14:19 2009 No.2976330 >>2975453 Pink panties? I see why people are angry, white panties fit her more. She is pure after all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:14:19 2009 No.2976332 >>2976330 I think blue stripes would be a good compromise between the two.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:16:19 2009 No.2976341 >>2976330 see >>2975856

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:32:19 2009 No.2976442 http://www.otakuism.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6199&start=200 Someone please explain to these people that the law is not responsible and PP made the censorship decision without merit. PLEASE.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:33:19 2009 No.2976448 >>2976442 complete waste of time why bother?

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Tue Jul 21 20:34:19 2009 No.2976455 >>2976442 I already tried for like, 5 pages.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:35:19 2009 No.2976471

>>2976442
The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:40:10 2009 No.2976492 [DELETED]

>>2976442
>Someone please explain to these people that the law is not responsible and PP made the censorship decision without merit. PLEASE.

I believe that for fraud you need to prove harm. Because they are offering a full refund with no strings attached, it is difficult to prove harm. Furthermore, in some cases fraud needs to be intentional, and it would be easy enough to prove it was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:46:19 2009 No.2976525 So how many CGs were censored?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:47:19 2009 No.2976529 >>2976525 Three

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:47:19 2009 No.2976533 >>2976525 three scenes, none with any sexual implications.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 21:10:19 2009 No.2976654 I just reached that part. So basically she is sitting on the toilet with her panties and her skirt on and she falls asleep. ...Why would anyone sit on a toilet with her clothes on? Or am I misinterpreting something in that scene?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:02:19 2009 No.2976877 Man, this Peter guy is a dick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:05:19 2009 No.2976893 >>2976127 This.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:10:19 2009 No.2976908 >>2976455 And then thread discussion somehow turned into BUT IT'S A NEKKED UNDER18 CHILD FFS RAAAGE 4CHAN TROLLS GTFO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:14:19 2009 No.2976933 >>2976908 They couldn't create any other decent counterarguments. What do you expect?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 23:04:19 2009 No.2977193 bump for rage

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 23:07:19 2009 No.2977203 >>2976014 How the hell does that thing work?

>>	Bob Tue Jul 21 23:27:19 2009 No.2977336 So, how has the bot or torrent of this? I can't find it fucking anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 23:31:19 2009 No.2977368 >>2976877 A very painful dick at that. Get it! HA!

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 23:34:19 2009 No.2977385

Does this mean that Al Azif is going to get the shit censored out of her? FUCK NO. I won't buy that trash if that's the case. Hello JAST idiots?? You're not selling as much as you could be? You know that don't you? Helllooo? Shit, I don't think they can hear me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 23:42:19 2009 No.2977435 How many h-scenes does this game have?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 00:12:19 2009 No.2977581 >>2977336 Me either, anon needs to deliver. Otherwise I'll never get a patch done.

>>	Derek Wed Jul 22 00:15:19 2009 No.2977590 >>2977581 >>2977336 Check the archive, its already been posted.

>>	Sudo !nAoZUmIAfk Wed Jul 22 00:16:19 2009 No.2977598 >>2977336 >>2977581 http://sukebe.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=13415

>>	umarekawari !iW1E1gJEgE Wed Jul 22 00:18:19 2009 No.2977606 I never realized how many members there were simply rabid fanboys. They complain when rape is censored, in Japan and America, you'd think they'd band together on this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 00:19:19 2009 No.2977609 uncensored patch as DLC or just rip the ones from the japanese version and put it in the english one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 00:19:19 2009 No.2977610 >>2977598 The torrent you are looking for does not appear to be in our database. >>2977590 Then kindly post the link, good anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 00:20:19 2009 No.2977611 >>2977606 loli is icky :(

>>	NewFriend !zkraGArAss Wed Jul 22 00:27:19 2009 No.2977635 >>2977606 Ah my good friend, it's all about our morality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 00:50:19 2009 No.2977737 Thanks god im not the only one who draws panties on naked girls by mistake

>>	Anonymous !Jones4ZrPA Wed Jul 22 01:02:19 2009 No.2977784 Peter patch where?

>>	Sudo !nAoZUmIAfk Wed Jul 22 01:14:19 2009 No.2977824 >>2977606 Most of them are tremendous faggots who would rather sling insults than make actual statements to argue the point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 01:17:19 2009 No.2977844

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 01:20:19 2009 No.2977851 >>2977844 nice spelling, moran

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 01:27:19 2009 No.2977872 File: 102 KB, 407x405, JAST_ADVICE2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2977844 hehehe...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 01:46:19 2009 No.2977943 >>2977872 Someone register an account on http://www.otakuism.com/bbs/ and use this as your avatar.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:36:19 2009 No.2978157 I'll just post it, I can't seem to make it fit as an avatar...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:42:19 2009 No.2978179 http://sukebe.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=13436 here the torrent again

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:44:19 2009 No.2978189 http://otakuism.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6288

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:45:19 2009 No.2978198 Demonbane is going to be butchered ahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:46:19 2009 No.2978200 >>2978189 Ugh. Now this is really just a shitty raid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:49:19 2009 No.2978211 >>2978189 Goddammit, Anon, your fucking antics need to stop. We are not fucking /b/ conducting EPIC LULZ XDDD raids. Stop making our reputation worse than it already is.

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Wed Jul 22 02:51:19 2009 No.2978216 >>2978189 I thought /jp/ had a bit more class than that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:55:19 2009 No.2978233 Actually the funny part is that the girl isn't loli and the reason she was censored was because she was said underage at the start of the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:56:19 2009 No.2978237 >>2978216 Are you kidding?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:56:19 2009 No.2978238 >>2978189 xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD /b/ is epic win! lulz high five xDDDDDD

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:57:19 2009 No.2978245 File: 44 KB, 640x480, fp appropriate age.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2978233 Hiroshi would like to disagree with you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:58:19 2009 No.2978253 File: 45 KB, 640x480, fp sofurin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2978233 He has the Sofurin on his side.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:03:19 2009 No.2978277 >>2978233 Yeah I was confused by people on the Jast forums calling her a loli. A high school student with breasts is no fucking loli.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:07:19 2009 No.2978296 >>2978277 That's still underage though, so if it's specified literally they censor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:37:19 2009 No.2978404 >>2978189 >>2978200 I made an actual post. http://www.otakuism.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6199&p=90677#p90677

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:40:19 2009 No.2978418 Did they just keep the original censoured CG or the whole scene was cut off?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:46:19 2009 No.2978437 >>2978404 I'm still chatting with them as "Lolicon" http://otakuism.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6288&p=90681#p90681 >>2978418 They added underwear to the original nude CGs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:48:19 2009 No.2978445 File: 110 KB, 247x248, 1240664055486.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2978437 >we make up most of the eroge market >pirates

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:52:19 2009 No.2978451 Illogical censorship is strange. Age censorship/editing is bullshit. >>2978198 And I'll rage. Hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:01:19 2009 No.2978478 >>2978451 If she was 17.9999999999999999 years old I bet they would still censor it. What the fuck is so special about 18, and why don't people get the fact that AGE IS NOT DISCRETE?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:05:19 2009 No.2978495 >>2975871 You call that censoring? I can still see that little whore's face! Put a burka on her, so she can't tempt men. Where do imaginary women get off these days...

umarekawari !iW1E1gJEgE Wed Jul 22 04:09:19 2009 No.2978509

Hey guys, please try to keep it civil over on the message boards.

We're in serious danger of having threads locked and discussion banned at this point. I'd rather TRY to keep it somewhat civil and present actual logical arguments, and basically not act like dicks. Some of their forum members are doing that well enough. I'm looking at you, Shota Conan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:09:19 2009 No.2978511 >>2978478 People are stupid. I'm about to give up all hope on them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:09:19 2009 No.2978512 >>2978478 That's exactly what she was. They censored because she wasn't 18 yet and got 18 a bit later apparently.

>>	Lolicon Wed Jul 22 04:15:19 2009 No.2978543 >>2978509 We gave up on that the last time they fed us bullshit...

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:25:19 2009 No.2978573

Are you people still discussing about this? Sakura, Sudo and other Anons brought our point fine over. JAST has heard it, knows it, will ignore it like always, and we got a refund for people who bought the game and feel ripped off. There is nothing more we can do.

Nitro+ Games WILL be censored in the future, Peter will lie his way out. Nothing we haven't heard and happened already. The more you rage and behave like faggots the more it will bring us harm. So let us behave a little bit more like adults and carry on.
>>2978445
The game got how much pirated? 3000 times is a rough estimate. If you sum up the complete from http://sukebe.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=13436 and the deleted one you come up with..... yeah well let's just say 3000 times.
That means at least 100.000$ lost for them.

I for one will trust TinFoil and the rest of the initial people who "work" with JAST now to come up with a solution to the problems at hand.
I am sure they will release some sort of patch to bring the games back to 100% uncensored.

If you still feel the need to voice your opinion, mail them instead of posting in the forum where no one gives a shit. Do it in a civilized way isntead of you suck fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:31:19 2009 No.2978590 >>2978573 Letterbomb campaign is a go?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:36:19 2009 No.2978602 >>2978573 >>That means at least 100.000$ lost for them. No it doesn't. "Lost" sales are incalculable because you cannot prove that the people who downloaded the game would have bought the game if they couldn't pirate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:41:19 2009 No.2978614 >>2978573 Well if they're even censoring non loli characters that means any character could be censored now. We gotta see with the next games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:45:19 2009 No.2978623 >But you just agreed to my insult so you're playing along. Yay! Isn't this game fun? Jesus Christ, Shota Conan is losing it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:53:19 2009 No.2978650 >>2978623 >implying Shota Conan ever had it Nah, he's been a troll the entire time.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:00:19 2009 No.2978691

>>2978573
I agree with this.

Going on any further is just a wasted effort. The trolls and idiot fanboys on Otakuism aren't going to budge, and the JAST guys aren't going to listen to anything you guys say either. We should all just accept that JAST will censor in the future and adjust our buying behavior accordingly (that is, if it ever existed).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:35:19 2009 No.2978831 >>2978691 Just sit down and watch the drama, dammit. Discussion with them scaredy cats are useless. Someone actually went and posted advice dog there, I wonder if Peter Payne's too embarrassed to post with his avatar now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:39:19 2009 No.2978853 Wasn't there recently a case about an underage girl posting pics with naked skin on one of those social shitty sites and being arrested for this. So of course there is the legal question about underage characters showing their genitals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:42:19 2009 No.2978866 >>2978853 >underage girl >underage characters >real life girl >fictional girl The US law makes a distinction between the two.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:44:19 2009 No.2978873 >>2978866 Then why don't you mail Jast and guarantee them to pay for possible court and lawyers fees? Huh? You still here?

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:47:19 2009 No.2978889

>>2978602
That is why i said rough. What do i know, just wanted to let it sound like a win.
>>2978614
The problem is that we can do nothing against censorship. Peter says now he will say beforehand, he will change his ways, come clean with us, tell us everything. But we all know when a new game will be released he won't say anything about the changes and if someone finds out and points it out he will bow down his head in shame, shed a few tears and tell us how powerless he is, blames it on the evil laws, 3rd parties, incompetent people, the world, god and who else he can find.
And the whole circle begins anew.
>>2978691
And tell the friends or people we know not to buy JAST games. Not everyone is a JAST fanboy, most of the people who buy the games are just normal people and know nothing about the changes, don't care about loli or the discussions on the board.
>>2978831
Watching this is like watching german dubbed Naruto in a room full of CR and Gaia Narutofags.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:49:19 2009 No.2978898 >>2978873 We don't talk about petty things here. Just drama watching.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:49:19 2009 No.2978900 slightly OT but isohunt is down ;_; so now we are seeing the death of all major free trackers

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:53:19 2009 No.2978918 >>2976654 Can someone enlighten me about that please.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:55:19 2009 No.2978926 >>2978873 Nice try. The US law is there. JAST, as the company that localized the game, needs to stand by their products, not me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:57:19 2009 No.2978932 >>2978926 And they decided to not take any risks because they wouldn't be able to protect themselves. Cases closed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:59:19 2009 No.2978944 >>2978932 Exactly. And since they're obviously not standing by their products, we will never, ever buy from them. Case closed indeed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:00:19 2009 No.2978949 >>2978932 It's still censorship. Even if I don't give a fuck about non loli characters being censored, it's still bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:04:19 2009 No.2978959 >>2978944 Not that you ever considered buying them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:11:19 2009 No.2978984 >>2978959 Sorry, not everyone in /jp/ is as poor as you.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:24:19 2009 No.2979038

>beowulflee
>I guess what it comes down to is what you want. Do you want JAST to censor and meddle unnecessarily with your games? As for me, I'm just glad that the fan-translation of Saya no Uta came out before JAST could slap some pink underwear onto Saya.

I liek this guy's avatar.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:26:19 2009 No.2979043 >>2978984 I wouldn't buy FP even if I had the money for it. Norio isn't enough to get me interested.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:35:19 2009 No.2979081 >>2978984 Not FP but every Nitro Game. Now with the whole censor thing i got a good picture at how those will end up. Point is that i don't want to buy things that are censored.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:37:19 2009 No.2979090 >>2979081 Anyone who would buy Jingay Makyou or Demonbane, uncensored or not, is a fucking tool though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:52:19 2009 No.2979158 >>2979090 Not interested by those as I do not like tits.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:53:19 2009 No.2979170 I will buy both of them if they come out uncensored and for a reasonable price

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 07:22:19 2009 No.2979291

>>2976442
>http://www.otakuism.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6199&start=200
>Someone please explain to these people that the law is not responsible and PP made the censorship decision without merit. PLEASE.

I don't understand them, they doesn't seem to be able to understand logic. You still get to see her naked and you do have sex with her, right? The law really isn't the issue this time.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 07:26:19 2009 No.2979306

People, have you not even thought about why this is happening? 3 images got censored, completely unnecessarily, of a girl who gets many H-scenes later. No law needed them to this, but they can vaguely justify it to their fans. Soon after the game is released, this censorship just happens to get picked up on by no-name losers. Afterwards it gets posted on 4chan, and rage develops. The front page constantly has a Family Project thread on it for days.
This is just a pretty clear case of viral marketing- it's a tiny change which barely affects the game, but is certain to generate massive discussion. It won't bother the current fan-base, who will swallow up the half-assed explanation about legal situations. Yet it has made the Family Project translation stick in the minds of every person on this board, and some people will be just curious enough to try it. Successful project.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 07:33:19 2009 No.2979335

>>2979306
>but is certain to generate massive discussion
But it will also lower their sales.
>It won't bother the current fan-base
But it bothers everyone else.
>Yet it has made the Family Project translation stick in the minds of every person on this board
This is the reason no one on this board would buy it anymore.
>and some people will be just curious enough to try it.
You mean pirate it?

>This is just a pretty clear case of viral marketing
I really cannot see this being the case unless they fix everything in upcoming patches but they have already said that they won't so I don't see that being the case.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 07:38:19 2009 No.2979349 >>2979291 Maybe you are the one who doesn't want to understand logic >>2979306 Sure buddy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 07:39:19 2009 No.2979353 >>2979335 >I really cannot see this being the case unless they fix everything in upcoming patches but they have already said that they won't so I don't see that being the case. Something this simple should be fixed by a fan patch in a few days.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 08:29:19 2009 No.2979464

>>2979353
>Something this simple should be fixed by a fan patch in a few days.

Sure that might happen but why would people support censoring when they could pirate their work and patch it anyway? If one doesn't buy it one might make it clear that people won't buy censored shit and especially not if they lie to their customers about it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 08:47:19 2009 No.2979501

I'm really having doubts on how they'd localized Saya/Demonbane now. They'd probably draw breasts on her/ make her taller or something. It's not out-of-stretch to say since they're in a direct partnership in Nitro+, they'd have the capability to redraw CGs at will. To be honest an adult looking Saya/Al Azif/<insert other chars here> probably wouldn't impact the story at all, which would make them more likely to do this. Especially reading Peter Payne's official reply. ;_;

>>2976149
>May Club patch
Can you link to it? Are you also the same one that made the patch for Nocturnal Illusions?

I vaguely remember it's on a geocities website.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 08:52:19 2009 No.2979517 I don't think there's going to be any problem with Nitro+ lolis, they're mostly non-human, right? Their age could be anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 08:58:19 2009 No.2979526 >>2979501 That would destroy Saya. Her charm is her childlike innocence

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:02:19 2009 No.2979532 File: 186 KB, 600x700, saya-improved.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did someone order an improved Saya?

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:05:19 2009 No.2979537
File: 10 KB, 150x150, 1248150099436.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>2979501
>>2979526
Have no worries guys, if there will be a decision to censor something i will tell you before.
You can trust me, every game will be 100% uncensored.
I give you my word.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:08:19 2009 No.2979545 File: 51 KB, 700x525, JLIST000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the real life Peter Payne

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:09:19 2009 No.2979547 >>2979501 Al Azif already has breasts in the original version. But then again Matsuri also had breasts and was censored. Both are non loli and both are and will get censored.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:11:19 2009 No.2979554 File: 62 KB, 640x480, peachprincess.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2979537 100% uncensoured.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:30:19 2009 No.2979609 File: 235 KB, 640x480, kk1 copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] JAST, I am disappoint.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:34:19 2009 No.2979630 >>2979545 What a ugly face. Makes me want to punch him for censoring my delicious Lipp.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 10:16:19 2009 No.2979747 >>2979609 :3

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 10:18:19 2009 No.2979756 >>2979545 Fucking UGLY.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 11:32:19 2009 No.2979941

I don't get it. Are the people blindly supporting JAST because they are morons, or because they are desperately trying to rationalize their purchase of a game that turned out to be censored. For no good reason. I was actually considering buying a copy to support them for finally getting a half-decent licence for once, but then they go and pull this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 11:35:19 2009 No.2979959 >>2979941 For me personally, the VN is still largely enjoyable, regardless of the nasty surprise. So, not really support, but I won't condemn feature releases just yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 11:36:19 2009 No.2979972 >>2979941 I ordered a copy but still haven't paid. I want to support JAST for finally translating good games but I don't want to support censorship. Shit sucks.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 11:41:19 2009 No.2979996

>>2979959
The problem with this is, like others have brought up, what's stopping them from censoring future titles? They promise '100% uncensored', yet this is the 2nd time now they knowingly threw censoring into a game and didn't say anything to protect their sales. It's like a game company saying their software is DRM free, then finding out, oops, there's an activation and install limit. Sorry about that, we won't do that again. Honest.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 11:51:19 2009 No.2980035

>>2979996
I know, but as of now, it is largely inconsequential concerning the value and feel of the VN.
Of course, worrying this will open the lid to further censoring that could actually have a larger impact on the VN content has a good basis, but I want to remain optimistic.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 11:54:19 2009 No.2980044

>>2979941
>I was actually considering buying a copy
no you weren't, liar.
guys the reason we "support" companies like JAST is because, for those losers among us who cannot read jap (like me), we want to see as much eroge come out in english as possible. that includes supporting cool peeps who tl for free like takajun and ixrec, as well as tossing a few bucks to the people who ask for money like peter payne and mangagamer. it's not about being dumb, falling for advertising, or being too much of a moralfag to pay for what you could get for free. it's about doing whatever you can to make sure more english eroge come out in the future.
You guys are getting all bent up about 3 images being censored, saying "I'll never buy from them!" You faggots wouldn't have paid for anything anyway. You're pirates, just admit it. I pirate stuff too, it's okay. Just fucking admit what you're doing though, instead of ALWAYS coming up with some bullshit excuse for why you're pirating. Censored images? Just fucking replace them you retards! It takes like 5 minutes! That's not why you don't support JAST. You don't support JAST because you're poor and cheap. And that's okay, just fucking admit it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 11:56:19 2009 No.2980047 >>2979609 fucking awesome, thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:00:19 2009 No.2980057 >>2980044 >cool peeps who tl Stopped reading here. Take the time to properly spell out words if you want people to take you seriously, as opposed to some 12-year-old girl on Myspace.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:01:19 2009 No.2980060

>>2980044
So, would you have supported Funimation/4kids in the early 90s? If people were like you back then, we'd still have dub only releases. If you stay roll back and stay silent, things won't change one bit. If you refuse to put up with it, maybe they'll some day change, maybe a better company will show up and make the market change.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:04:19 2009 No.2980068 >>2980057 Too much of a grammar nazi for just shortening a single world in a perfectly easy to understand post, regardless of content. Chill man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:07:19 2009 No.2980075 So I go through all the choices I see fit and I end up with the 30 year old hag. What the fuck.

>>	GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Wed Jul 22 12:08:19 2009 No.2980077 >>2980068 I'm not an underaged shithead, so I don't know what the hell "tl" is supposed to mean.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:09:19 2009 No.2980078 Is everyone in this game used goods?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:11:19 2009 No.2980086 >>2980068 cuz liek tlking liek this wen ur tryin 2 sound liek u no wat u tlking bout ttly works XD

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:13:19 2009 No.2980099 >>2980086 >>2980077 It's a single word in the whole post, perfectly understandable from context, not a unique lingo. Unless, when we talk about VN translations and mention TLWiki, you do not understand what the 'tl' stands for. Over reactive faggots.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:15:19 2009 No.2980112 >>2980078 I thought that was kind of the point of the game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:16:19 2009 No.2980113 Let me get this straight, they censored these three scenes where she is not getting fucked but later when you have sex with her, it is not censored and she still looks like a loli. I'd like them to release the unaltered text of these scenes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:17:19 2009 No.2980116 >>2980099 >It's a single word Funny, >>2980057 mentions both >peeps and >tl How about you take time out of your busy schedule of arguing on the internet and put a little more effort into your posts? For all our sakes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:17:19 2009 No.2980117 >>2980078 Everyone except for the protagonist who is a virgin.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:18:19 2009 No.2980118

>>2980044
No man. It may come as a surprise here but we are not poor. You blame it on us being poor, but that is not the problem here. This is
> tossing a few bucks to the people who ask for money like peter payne and mangagamer
You are desperate. Paying money to ANYONE as long as you get some translation, you don't care about quality or what they cut out or censor as long as you get it. It is the principe, the lie and the attitude that is the problem here.
In my opinion you are the poor one here, not us.
>You're pirates, just admit it. I pirate stuff too, it's okay. Just fucking admit what you're doing though, instead of ALWAYS coming up with some bullshit excuse for why you're pirating.
We are not blaming things so that we can say we are the poor ones here so that we can pirate it. We just pirate it without any reasons given. And we don't need to justify ourselves, we just do it. End of the story. But that was never the problem here. You again don't know what you are talking about.
>Censored images? Just fucking replace them you retards! It takes like 5 minutes!
3 images got censored, look at the long history of JAST censoring stuff, plus rewriting. But those were the games we did not really care that much about. BUT now they got Nitro+, which a step above the usual. Knowing the above this is a clear sign of what we are going to expect. Route rewriting, censorship etc. Either we take a step now and tell them no don't do this, which is pretty much fruitless, but hey at least we did it, we tried.
>You don't support JAST because you're poor and cheap. And that's okay, just fucking admit it.
You pretty much ignore the whole situation at hand, you are ignorant, you are rude and make up things. First get your facts straight, think for yourself and stop listening to lies and then finally see the situation for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:27:19 2009 No.2980154 >>2980116 Perhaps he is a fan of Christian in ECW? And really, a misplaced letter and a stenography issue are what you faggots use to disregard a post? Too anal, man.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:32:19 2009 No.2980169

I didn't buy from JAST so that I could read JAST's version of family project. I bought it so that I could read family project in English. On that principle I will be getting my refund.

This is NOT a legal grey area. I believe the important parts of the protect act were deemed unconstitutional, and I believe that family project has enough taste for it not to be deemed obscene. This isn't JAST covering their asses. This is JAST being paranoid. By adhering to the ideals of the censorship you effectively support them. You make other people think that you believe it is acceptable and thus starts the horrible spiral down of censorship. I’m not into 2D loli (and she was barely a loli), in fact I prefer it with the panties on, however that’s not how the game was originally made and when I found out that she wasn’t meant to have panties on I realised the situation should have been much more embarrassing. So in effect I interpreted the entire scene differently. Therefore I feel like JAST has screwed me over with the needless censorship.

But that’s just my two cents on the issue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:33:19 2009 No.2980174 >>2980154 Just because it says >Anonymous doesn't mean your writing style isn't recognizable from post to post. Just a small tip for when you decide to imitate a third-party in the future.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:33:19 2009 No.2980176 >>2980154 Generally things like that are not welcome on 4chan. Writing like a 13 yr old CR faggot is not something you can be proud of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:35:19 2009 No.2980185 >>2980154 hello >>2980044 >what you faggots use to disregard a post Not from here, Go back to JAST forum to be a good JAST fanboy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:35:19 2009 No.2980186 >>2980174 Not the same guy. Just wondering why the fuck you complain for something like that. This guy >>2980118 addresed the proper issue at least. >>2980176 So this >>2980086 and this >>2980044 are the same. Good to know.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:38:19 2009 No.2980200

>>2980185
Not the same guy.
I didn't even comment on the content, I'm just saying you are faggots for making a big deal from two 'bad' spelling issues and the shift button.
Whether it's a VN thread, Idol thread or whatever.
Man, we get more unbearable by the day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:41:19 2009 No.2980212 >>2980185 >Go back to JAST forum to be a good JAST fanboy. Ah I get it, we're being "counter-raided" by the JAST forum to get back at us for "raiding" them. That would explain why everything got that little bit more stupid all of a sudden.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:44:19 2009 No.2980226

>>2980200
If you are not able to write correct english then that is okay. Noone will get mad at you.
But what is the point of not using correct english when you are perfectly capable of doing so? There is absolutely no reason so it makes you sound like a retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:46:19 2009 No.2980236 >>2980200 When i first came to 4chan i got rid of all my smilies usage and tried to write less than a Gaia faggot. When in Rome do as the Romans do. But that was 3 years ago and /a/ is not the same as back then. No one gives a shit anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:47:19 2009 No.2980239 >>2980226 Not . the. same. person. But a couple spelling mistakes alone do not make for 'Bad English'. If his post was hard to read, MAYBE. People for who no reason jump out of the blue to say 'Why is your post not perfect' piss me off, that's all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:51:19 2009 No.2980255 >>2980239 if his post was hard to read if his post WERE hard to read

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:53:19 2009 No.2980264 >>2980113 >and she still looks like a loli. Still? She never looked loli even in her underage state...

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:53:19 2009 No.2980266

>>2980236

>No one gives a shit anymore.

This isn't true. On any boards, even /b/ at times which shocked even me, you'll get comments about spelling and grammar if they're sub-par.

Like it was said earlier, this isn't Myspace and if someone's trying to get a point across and convince someone of something, taking a little longer to type out Standard English makes a huge difference.

Typos happen, but outright using "peeps" and "tl" is pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:54:19 2009 No.2980271 >>2980255 Giggled like a schoolgirl. Well done.

>>	(″･ิ_･ิ)っ-̾ Wed Jul 22 12:57:19 2009 No.2980282 >>2980226 >If you are not able to write correct english >Noone You are the worst elitist grammarian ever.

>>	MolesterJim Wed Jul 22 12:57:51 2009 No.2980284 >>2980255 Actually, you only use 'were' if the structure was like 'Were his post hard to read', otherwise it's fine.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 13:01:19 2009 No.2980302

>>2980239
The people here are friendly. When i first posted on 4chan i got saged and insulted to hell and back.
People nowadays are friendly.
I usually write like >>2980044 too but refrain from doing so.
But that is not the point here and some guys probably won't get it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 13:02:19 2009 No.2980305 >>2980282 That's probably true. At least I'm trying.

>>	MolesterJim Wed Jul 22 13:03:19 2009 No.2980312 >>2980284 Actually, you would only use 'were' if the structure was like 'Were his post hard to read', otherwise it's fine. >>2980305 You try a bit too hard for no real reason. Chill, man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 13:06:19 2009 No.2980325 >>2980302 Now this is a success story, ladies and gentlemen. Let's have a huge round of applause.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 13:08:19 2009 No.2980338 >>2980117 >>2980078 so all the girls in this eroge are...NOT PURE?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 13:09:19 2009 No.2980344 >>2980325 Thank you Thank you. Look foward to "how 4chan and not jesus saved my life" in bookstores soon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:10:56 2009 No.2980641 File: 16 KB, 168x32, familyproject.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Minus the tracker at nyaatorrents.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:01:55 2009 No.2981476 >>2980338

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:20:19 2009 No.2981876 Christ, they did it again? You'd think they wouldn't jerk customers around during a recession.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 23:16:19 2009 No.2983373 >>2975453 Nice outfit. I want one for my girlfriend.

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