Am I the only one who thinks Rosa is the hottest among the adults?

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Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:12:32 2009 No.2927597 [Reply] [Original]

Am I the only one who thinks Rosa is the hottest among the adults?

>>	CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM Sat Jul 11 21:13:32 2009 No.2927600 File: 409 KB, 1047x1300, 1246059452073.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I prefer Kyrie both in the hot category and moe category.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:15:32 2009 No.2927608 File: 418 KB, 738x520, 5095798.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:20:32 2009 No.2927628 Everyone else is middle-aged, so it's to be expected. Rosa's still relatively youthful.

>>	博麗　霊夢 !1rAyMooPLc Sat Jul 11 21:23:32 2009 No.2927643 You are not alone my brother. Rosa is definitely the hottest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:26:32 2009 No.2927656 Hottest and best mom.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:26:32 2009 No.2927660 I'd love to be her son

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:27:32 2009 No.2927663 Tie between her and Natsuhi for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:27:32 2009 No.2927664 >>2927597 Rosa is the hottest women and also my favourite character.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:27:32 2009 No.2927667 Rosa looks the closest loli.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:31:32 2009 No.2927678 Well, she is the youngest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:35:32 2009 No.2927688 File: 467 KB, 1582x1809, 6104382cbabd25a9d8f439feba0ff1e2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Eva and Natsuhi are both hotter than Rosa.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:35:32 2009 No.2927689 Natsuhi for me.

>>	Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL Sat Jul 11 21:38:32 2009 No.2927695 File: 84 KB, 505x480, ber_waraia1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Natsuhi. Rosa is pretty good, though, in hotness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:41:32 2009 No.2927705 File: 225 KB, 692x711, Ushiromiyas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hnngh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:44:32 2009 No.2927713 >>2927705 Goddamn Rudolf is hot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:44:32 2009 No.2927715 File: 83 KB, 450x341, 6hinkf031.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this thread is relevant to my internets

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:46:32 2009 No.2927722 Eva is by far the least attractive adult.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:48:32 2009 No.2927726 I'd Rudolf

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:54:32 2009 No.2927745
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>>2927722
I'm afraid I must disagree with you on that.

While she might not quite win out in looks alone, the fact that she is well-trained in martial arts means she's probably in much better shape than the others are. Throw in the flexibility and stamina she must surely have developed along with her skills in all the training she must do, and I would bet she fucks like a goddamn tiger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:54:32 2009 No.2927746 File: 236 KB, 535x812, 1246376919788.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If Eva was my mom, things would be different around here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:55:32 2009 No.2927748 >>2927745 Luckily, we don't choose women for their sexual prowess, do we ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:57:32 2009 No.2927752 >>2927748 Then what DO you choose women for? Company? Food? Cleaning? A man could do all of those just as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:00:32 2009 No.2927758 >>2927752 A man is just as good for sex, too. I seek feminity and companionship.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:14:32 2009 No.2927807 >>2927748 The issue is "attractiveness" not "sexual prowess". Taking care of yourself and being in excellent shape for your age could be considered a factor in that regard. Sexual prowess would just be a happy bonus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:17:32 2009 No.2927819 File: 165 KB, 434x600, 1244738702634.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just look at her goddamn i'll fuck that shit every day

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:18:32 2009 No.2927827 File: 101 KB, 360x480, 495323_m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If Natsuhi was my mom, thing would be different around here. I wouldn't be a virgin for starters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:20:32 2009 No.2927836 >>2927819 Careful, she likes mature, experienced men. Not meeting her standards could result in her demonstrating how the penis mightier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:35:32 2009 No.2927898 I'd like Eva better if she wasn't such a... BITCH. She treats everyone outside her small circle of family like shit, not to mention she's the only confirmed murderer so far.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:40:32 2009 No.2927917 well i dont dislike the the art but DAMN Maria is buttugly in the VN

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:43:32 2009 No.2927928 >>2927597 HNNNG.jpg Artist?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:46:32 2009 No.2927944 File: 6 KB, 410x187, connery.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2927836 >the penis mightier YOU'RE SITTING ON A GOLD MINE, ANONYMOUS!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:48:32 2009 No.2927953 File: 1.33 MB, 1056x1700, 5058644.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Odd that episode 5 is apparently focusing on Natsuhi again when Eva hasn't done anything positive yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:49:32 2009 No.2927958 File: 170 KB, 1280x1024, kiriepistol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2927600 same

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:49:32 2009 No.2927960 File: 56 KB, 858x755, 4659094.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Huh, Ingot Dog is actually on-topic in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:52:32 2009 No.2927970 File: 38 KB, 470x424, gunpukulj72.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rosa and Rudolf would be the best parents. I'd be one good-looking sonuva- Wait a minute, nevermind, abuse and daddy issues. To bad the two best parents together would suck.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:56:32 2009 No.2927978

Rosa is a slut, and not even in the stupid SAKURA/AYA/SANAE IS A SLUT XD sense, but in the most literal and shameless
way possible. Those of you who like her should be ashamed.

As such, I can say with certainty that all of these people who claim to like Rosa are women, lauding the conduct of what they consider to be another "empowered" woman. After all, no man except for a normalfaggot could bring himself to love someone so dirty.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:15:32 2009 No.2928026

>>2927898
Well, can you really blame her for being a bitch to anyone other than the ones she loves?
She's grown up raised by an abusive alcoholic father, living in the shadow of a smug prick of an older brother, and all the while constantly being treated as an inferior no matter how hard she tried and all because she didn't have the fortune to be born with a dick.

She worked her ass off throughout her life to excel and surpass her brother, to prove herself to be just as worthy a successor as anyone, and so what pride she might have she is probably justified in having.

But then Natsuhi comes along. You have this woman, this outside, whose only accomplishment was marrying the right person, coming into the family and start acting like she's on their level despite probably never going through even half of the shit Eva went through for the family, and is it any wonder she's such a bitch to her?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:18:32 2009 No.2928030 >>2927978 And you're the exact sort of worthless virgin loser that she hates most. Oh, the irony.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:22:32 2009 No.2928038 >>2927597 >>Rosa You misspelled Natsuhi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:23:32 2009 No.2928039 >>2927928 Looks like Suzushiro Kurumi. http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=8065

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:24:32 2009 No.2928042 Natsuhi is cutter than Roza. Kyrie is sexier than Roza. Eva is crazier than Roza. Roza <<<<<<<<< Everyone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:25:32 2009 No.2928046 Natsuhi is bonerific. Rosa's design in the VN doesn't look all that hot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:25:32 2009 No.2928048 File: 276 KB, 450x600, 4006366.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2927978 I'm a woman and I HATE Rosa. I want to be like Eva when I am an adult. She's a good example of a strong woman.

>>	Rosa Master of Hate Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:25:32 2009 No.2928050 I unno, I saw Rosa's face in the anime... When she runs up to slap Maria... Almost looked like Shion in the ladder scene from Higurashi. I'd post a screen cap but sadly 4chan hates me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:25:32 2009 No.2928052 >>2927960 Ingot Dog is always on topic.

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Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:29:32 2009 No.2928068

>>2927978
You obviously haven't had a child. The resentment builds up when you're thrust with such an unwanted child. In the case of Rosa and Maria it's no one's fault except the man who left.

For all yu male anons reading this, if you ever happen to get a chick please don't BS like this or things like Maria and Rosa will happen.

I'm an unwanted child, my dad killed himself because of financial and mental issues. Every time I look in my mom's faked smile I could tell that she's had a fucking hard time and is probably resenting me. I bear my father's name and I look like him (minus the beard) and I could tell she was just full of hatred and was putting up with me since it'll look bad if she fucks up and leaves me to die. I was always resentful as well because I sensed that shit around my mid teens. But now that I'm older and an adult in my own right if I was in her shoes I'd hate myself too.

I won't go as far as to say people like Rosa shouldn't have children but I will say that the father is a grade "A" douche bag and it's better than Maria vents her anger on the scum bag than on the mother who at least tried to get them to be a happy family.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:30:32 2009 No.2928074 Can someone explain the "things would be different around here" meme?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:32:32 2009 No.2928085 >>2928074 no

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:32:32 2009 No.2928087 Natsuhi is pure sex.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:33:32 2009 No.2928089

>>2928026
Hold up, you're acting like Krauss didn't have his on issues. Did you read part 4? Even though he's a prick he still protects his siblings when it counts. It's not his fault that his father was abusive and wrecked his slef esteem. Can you imagine still being slapped at his age even though he has a wife, daughter and business?

Natsuhi has done nothing wrong and is always on the receiving end. She loves her husband's family even though they treat her less than shit. Eva is truly a bitch, to everyone. The only people who she's not bitchy about it George and her husband.

If we're to blame anyone for a dysfunctional mess of a family this is then it's Kinzo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:36:32 2009 No.2928105 The whole family's just filled with people who have deep rooted issues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:36:32 2009 No.2928108 They'll all band together and deny the witch on the last episode.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:37:32 2009 No.2928115 I don't think there's a single person in the family who doesn't have some serious problems. With the possible exceptions of Hideyoshi and George.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:37:32 2009 No.2928118 Rosa said some really hurtful things in EP4.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:39:32 2009 No.2928133 >>2928085 Please?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:39:32 2009 No.2928134 >>2928115 Just wait for EP5. I used to think Battler was the normal guy then came the whole YOU ARE NOT BATTLER LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO bullshit. Watch EP5 have George and the fat guy have some sort of issues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:40:32 2009 No.2928136 >>2928115 George is clearly yandere. He's shown multiple times how far he is willing to go make sure Shannon is his. Hideyoshi is fat. If thats not a serious issue, I dont know what is.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:42:32 2009 No.2928141

>>the mother who at least tried to get them to be a happy family.

By neglecting her daughter so much, leaving her home alone so often that she actually gave her explicit instructions regarding not going to the same places, not talking to police, and not making herself memorable or identifiable so child protection services don't intervene? By lying to her about having to stay at work late when she was actually going out of town on dates, sometimes while she was ON said date?

Yeah. She was really doing her all to make things work out between the two of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:42:32 2009 No.2928143 >>2928115 Isn't Rudolf fine for the most part? He's a crappy dad and he's probably had his share of Kinzo-beatings but besides that. The former is his fault anyhow, he just likes his women.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:45:32 2009 No.2928155 >>2928115 Jessica is fine

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:47:32 2009 No.2928157 Rosa ftw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:47:32 2009 No.2928161 >>2928143 Rudolf is actually one of the better dads as he got down on his knees and beg Battler for forgiveness.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:50:32 2009 No.2928179

>>Hold up, you're acting like Krauss didn't have his on issues. Did you read part 4? Even though he's a prick he still protects his siblings when it counts.

His siblings? You mean the ones who all somehow died getting their brains and half their heads blown the fuck away on the first twilight? Yeah, that's some protection, there.

That's not even considering all the other things about that little scene, like Kinzo or the pitfalls, that make it seem as if the events as they were portrayed as happening were, more or less, bullshit. There's no more reason to think he's as protective as he was shown there as there is to think George is really as badass as he was made out to be in his fight with Gaap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:51:32 2009 No.2928181 >>2928161 but you forgot about how he brought someone from outside and named him Battler to get to the inheritance

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:53:32 2009 No.2928193 >>2928181 Battler wasn't from the outside

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:55:32 2009 No.2928199 >>2928181 Outside? Battler has been confirmed to be Kinzo's grandson

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:03:32 2009 No.2928217
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>>Jessica is fine

Oh yes, I agree. Even though all we've seen and learned about her is from the Question arcs, surely there won't be any surprises that pop up in the Answer arcs that reveal her to actually be a twisted, vindictive psycho-bitch. Because that would NEVER happen.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Sun Jul 12 00:08:32 2009 No.2928232 >>2928217 Jessica is Shmion. Split personalities AHOY.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:12:32 2009 No.2928247

>>2928179
Okay that's really unfair now. How the hell is he supposed to protect people from death arrows? Even if the entire scene at the dining hall was bullshit he was still not in the position to do much.

Rudolf himself said it, Kraus did shit when it mattered. I'm not going to accept that he or anyone in the family is entirely evil, ryu did a good job of making complex characters who aren't saccharin sweet all the time or HOLY SHIT evil all the time.

>>2928141
Granted she did do a lot of selfish things but at the end of the day she was struggling with her own resentment as well and she did attempt a couple times to reconcile with her daughter. I think the tears she shed when she realized how horrible she was and apologized were from her heart. Rosa is torn between being a good mother and the lust of a woman deprived of love from both her family and her husband. She did not make the right choice but I don't believe if any of us were in her position we'd have acted differently.

I maintain everything that happened between mother and daughter is caused by the horrible man leaving. Everything after that is a slow slow train crash.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:15:32 2009 No.2928254

>>2928199
I think that makes him a homunculus and if that's true boy oh boy will the anti-fantasy people be sad. At first I thought he would be Kyrie's son that died in the womb but really didn't die but I don't see how it'd fit in the story. Something that HUGE is not easy to hide.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:15:32 2009 No.2928255 >>2928232 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7588215

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:25:32 2009 No.2928285 Cutest person ammong the siblings, Rosa (Eva isn't cute at all). Cutest person with the Ushiromiya name, Kyrie. Cutest Person Ammong the 18, Shannon Cutest witch, Ange Cutest demon, Lucifier of Pride There.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:29:32 2009 No.2928292 >>2928254 How does that make him a homunculus?

>>	Battler is not a homunculus Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:32:32 2009 No.2928305 >>2928292 I doubt that he's a homunculus, Keep in mind that he has the black blood + He's magic resistant being made of magic wouldnt make sense now would it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:40:32 2009 No.2928333 Battler is made out of small bombs.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:41:32 2009 No.2928335

>>2928247
>>Okay that's really unfair now. How the hell is he supposed to protect people from death arrows? Even if the entire scene at the dining hall was bullshit he was still not in the position to do much.

But how can you know for certain that he wasn't the one FIRING those "death arrows"? All that's known for a certainty to be true about that scene is who died, and the state they were left in. If four children are in the guest house, and we assume that none of the six who died were responsible for the death of anyone else, then the ones who were left alive are all likely suspects.

>>I'm not going to accept that he or anyone in the family is entirely evil

So, you'll be accepting that one or more of the servants are entirely evil, instead?
Because, regardless of what sort of horrible, traumatic life you may have led, it's hard to exactly make a case for someone being "good but misunderstood" when they murder six people and mutilate their corpses, be it by smashing their faces in, or gutting them, stuffing the bodies with candies, and setting up the scene like some sort of macabre dinner party.

Hell, Takano had reasons for doing what she did, but it still didn't make her any less bad or evil for murdering a little girl by gutting her like a fish while she was STILL ALIVE so she could order the complete extermination of about 2000 innocent civilians.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:46:32 2009 No.2928355 >>2928335 Wasn't Takano suffering from Hinamizawa Syndrome as well? Like, long term? Not that she wasn't doing evil stuff beforehand, but the whole descent into complete mania was explainable by that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:56:32 2009 No.2928386 File: 37 KB, 698x480, Battlerpoint2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2928333 ITT: TRUE STATEMENTS

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:57:32 2009 No.2928394

>>2928292
He may be an artificial human or a test tube baby. He was not born from a woman (Unless they introduce it later on) so he must be a homunculus.

>>2928335
I'm not going "Good but misunderstood" route. If there is a human culprit (which being an anti-mystery I don't think so) then there are complicated reasons for their actions and I don't think is entirely evil. Look at all he characters mentioned they all have sympathetic backgrounds. While it doesn't vindicate them from their sins it does add a level of complexity past "GENERIC BAD GUY LOL"

>>But how can you know for certain that he wasn't the one FIRING those "death arrows"?

It wasn't stated so I'm going to assume it's the seista sisters until proven other wise. But whether or not he is the killer in that situation doesn't change the fact that Rudolph confided in Kyrie that Krauss was a brother who took his responsibilities towards himself, family and siblings seriously when he had to.

Also just throwing this out there If Eva was the human culprit in Episode 3 and battler figured it out befre being shot doesn't that mean he won?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:00:32 2009 No.2928404 >>2928394 There had to have been more than one culprit, otherwise there was no way for Nanjo to die. It was said that Eva didn't kill him, remember?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:03:32 2009 No.2928410 Macbeth end: Battler was delivered by Caesarian section. The whole "not Asumu's son" ruse was a red herring.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:04:32 2009 No.2928415 I suspect Rudolf was cheating on both Asumu AND Kyrie with some whore. That would explain it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:11:32 2009 No.2928443

>>But whether or not he is the killer in that situation doesn't change the fact that Rudolph confided in Kyrie that Krauss was a brother who took his responsibilities towards himself, family and siblings seriously when he had to.

Yes, I'm sure that means a lot coming from someone who was conspiring with his wife and fellow siblings to blackmail and extort a large sum of cash out of his dear big brother.

Face it, while each of the family members may have multi-faceted personalities and, when viewed in certain lights may seem like wonderful, lovable people, it doesn't change the fact that in the much bigger picture, they're all ultimately still a bunch of bastards and assholes. Not that it isn't understandable, considering the upbringings most of them had, but it doesn't change that they are what they are.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:18:32 2009 No.2928477

>>2928443
>>Yes, I'm sure that means a lot coming from someone who was conspiring with his wife and fellow siblings to blackmail and extort a large sum of cash out of his dear big brother.

Actually yes it does, the fact that Rudolph is acknowledging a good point even though they're enemies means a lot.

I will concede that they're all a bunch of assholes and such but that's just one side to them and I'll acknowledge all their good sides as well.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:34:32 2009 No.2928551

>>2928477
>>Actually yes it does, the fact that Rudolph is acknowledging a good point even though they're enemies means a lot.

But he's NOT "acknowledging a good point even though they're enemies", Rudolph is acknowledging a good point about someone he's plotting to try to fuck over.

If Krauss was REALLY as dependable and responsible regarding his family and whatnot, I would think there are some steps Rudolph and the others could have taken if they were so strapped for cash BEFORE trying something as slimy and underhanded as blackmail and extortion. Something like, oh, I dunno, ASKING him for financial assistance?

The fact they went straight for thinly-veiled accusations that he was covering up Kinzo being dead to keep the inheritance to himself, and offering to do him the "favor" of not causing problems for him if he would be so kind as to give them all more money than he could possibly have despite them all knowing he couldn't possibly have that much, rather than something more friendly like "Hey Bro, we're having some trouble with our companies, do you think you co could spot us a few loans until we get out of the red?" means either he's NOT as much the dependable sort he's made out to be, or they're all just a bunch of greedy, self-serving bastards who would say ANYTHING, nice or otherwise, if it would get them what they want, and so probably shouldn't be trusted when it comes to their judgments of character.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:50:32 2009 No.2928611

>>2928551
So i we can't judge statements of character from characters that grew up with each other then what can we trust? I usually take character statements at face value until proven otherwise because when we start the "We can't trust characters for no reason" line of logic we get a slippery slope where everything is not trust worthy.

We have two characters who say two different thins about Krauss. One is Eva and the other is Rudolph through his wife. If we can't take Rudolph's claim of Krauss being a good brothers then why should we take Eva's? For all we know her perspective on the matter would have been colored by resentment and unjust hate. All we've seen of Krauss in the present when he's not dead is him under pressure from his siblings and of course he'd put up a smug front for those who are attacking him, his natural right as a first born male of the family and his immediate family (His wife and Jessica).

Krauss has really done nothing wrong to be considered an ass hole and that little bit of him being sexist? That's just him being a product of the times and culture.

Do you remember what Jessica said when she was temporarily fucking the shit out of Ronove? She said Krauss was being harassed from all sides, his siblings, their spouses and his father and even with all that BS he still tried to protect his immediate family and from that action Jessica learned to be bad ass. He's not that bad of a guy, at least he (along with Rudolph) are not as bad as Rosa and Eva.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:56:32 2009 No.2928636 File: 32 KB, 640x480, WONDERFUL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh Rosa, never change.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:59:32 2009 No.2928645 You know what will be more disturbing than insane Eva or Rosa? When Natsuhi snaps. You know it'll happen sometime.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 02:06:32 2009 No.2928665 File: 73 KB, 871x605, 1240550709410.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2928074

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 02:07:32 2009 No.2928669 >>2928645 Her nerves are strong, she didn't shot Eva remember?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 02:08:32 2009 No.2928675 >>2928645 Natsuhi already has snapped. Remember that conversation she had with "Kinzo" in Episode 1? She's batshit insane.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 02:09:32 2009 No.2928680

>>We have two characters who say two different thins about Krauss. One is Eva and the other is Rudolph through his wife. If we can't take Rudolph's claim of Krauss being a good brothers then why should we take Eva's? For all we know her perspective on the matter would have been colored by resentment and unjust hate.

Well, for starters the fact that Eva's assessment comes from Eva herself, while Rudolph's alleged assessment was second-hand information passed on by Kyrie. Whether she's right or wrong, Eva said what she said, wheras all we have to go on regarding the truth of Rudolph saying what he did was Kyrie's word.

Keep in mind, she WAS the one leading the charge with accusing Krauss of covering up Kinzo's status, as well as the follow-up with the blackmail and so on. She's shrewd with her words, and likely a rather skilled manipulator when she wants to be. If you're assuming what was shown regarding the events in the dining room and the subsequent imprisonment of the survivors to be true, then couldn't it be just as likely that what Kyrie claimed her late husband had said wasn't simply something she made up in an attempt to encourage a man who had just witnessed the brutal murder of his wife? And while she could do such a thing out of compassion, it's also possible that she simply considered herself to have a better chance of surviving if the only able-bodied adult male of the group wasn't beside himself with grief, and so was helping him to help herself.

That is, of course, assuming that all of that happened as it was shown to have. Which it probably did not, which renders the point, shall we say, moot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 02:10:32 2009 No.2928682 >>2928675 Never happened

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 02:15:32 2009 No.2928712 >>2928675 You're confusing fabrication for insanity. She and Krauss already know Kinzo is dead, because they're the ones throwing him in the incinerator. I doubt she herself actually believes that scene happened.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 02:33:32 2009 No.2928798 >>2928682 >>2928712 Yeah but Natsuhi thought it happened. She damn near had a fit when Eva suggested Kinzo was never in the study in the first place.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 03:12:32 2009 No.2928936

>>2928680
Then we can't say that Eva's perception is any better. We've seen Krauss from her perspective and that means the only thing he did wrong was being a man and being born before her. We've seen it from Rudolph's perspective and as you say that may be Kyrie BSing to survive the situation and not have him in grief. Then what about his Daughter? Her description of him is the victim who's being attacked by his siblings for being born first (something he can't help) and having his father being disappointed just because he couldn't keep up to the unfair expectations. Hell even Natsuhi the arguably better wife of the family can't support him because of the BS sexist indoctrination his father forced on him.

All I'm saying is from EP 1 -4 Krauss has really done nothing wrong to merit the ass hole title with the whole family.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 03:14:32 2009 No.2928942 >>2928712 The fuck? Genji and the Doc all saw Kinzo, why would he be dead? In b4 Nanjo nd Genji are accomplices.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 03:21:32 2009 No.2928963 Why do you all keep saying Kyrie even if it's obviously a genuine japanese name and not one of the Ushiromiya's kanjified western one? It should be Kirie.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 03:23:32 2009 No.2928969 >>2928942 Nanjo is obviously in on the plot somehow. (See Episode 4). Genji probably is too (Ronoue/Ronove).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 03:23:32 2009 No.2928970 >>2928963 Because Ragnarok Online I'm serious

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 03:25:32 2009 No.2928975

>>2928942
In episode 2, when Krauss and Natsuhi are talking before the siblings arrive, they say Nanjo and the furniture are ready to go along with them.
And episode 5 OP shows us one shot of the outside siblings and another of Krauss+wife+furniture, like they are two opposite sides in chess.
I think Krauss was actually a nice son, spent the money for his father's sake (maybe a testament?) but obviously can't tell that to the others, and the furniture goes along because it was the master's wish.

>>	Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL Sun Jul 12 03:41:32 2009 No.2929056 I like how this thread became a discussion

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