/07/ - 07th Expansion thread

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Discussion about Ryukishi/07/th Expansion works as Higurashi, Umineko, Higanbana, Rose Guns Days, Ciconia, Iwaihime, etc.

Archive of Ryukishi07's works: https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

Scorpion Charm to expell the witch: https://pastebin.com/vD4KUyHf

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Now that the witch wander on other boards, use this one: https://pastebin.com/k3MR1Bhg

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oh right, today is thursday, isn't it?

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ERiKANTRICE MANIFeSTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

Guys what you think about this visual meme of mine manifesto?
did you think this will help me to made my theory be understood by normies?

send your opinions and what parts of mine manifesto do you want see become Visual!!!!

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>>29057230
2nd image

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mion's 17 year old milkers

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>>29057490
>17
~15, the people who changed Mions age on the wiki are puritan revisionists.

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>>29058024
In the VN itself, it says that Mion is preparing her entrance exam for high school. She's indeed around 14-15.

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>>29057095
Look at these identical twins looking nothing alike

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>>29057490
They somehow grow like three times their size when she's wearing her angel mort outfit in Gou.

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Need help to tl this sentence

「じゃあ強かった圭ちゃんには特別なお仕置き許しちゃお」

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>>29058540
It's a machine translation, but seems legit.

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>>29058540
Use DeepL if you are blocking. It's a really good machine translation. At least, for Japanese to English.

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>>29058868
I use 4 different one but I kinda doubt their quality for this one sentence.
The previous one is 「あ~あおじさん負けちゃったよ」which can be translated to “Ah~ This Oji-san admit it’s defeat” so the next one doesn't make sense if you follow the MTL

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>>29058113
>>29058024
even better

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>>29057095
You know I been sceptical about this adaption but if anything it's kind of fun to watch different versions of the main game scenarios. Wonder how rika will fuck up in watanagashi this or next episode.

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>>29060492
This.

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>>29057490
>>29058024
>>29058113
Mion is 16 and a half.

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>>29056557
>>29057095
shion didn't mention anything about hearing a noise this time, so apparently she's not going nuts (yet).

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>>29063863
They didn't enter the storage in the episode yet you know.
Also in meakashi she says the only reason she takes keiichi with her to the storage is so she doesn't have to go alone and can use him as a scapegoat (or something similar).
I'm pretty sure she's already nuts enough.

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rika activated her sharingan again.

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>>29064564
subs arent out yet and you are spreading spoilers you fuck

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Is there any fansubs translating the Higu anime with an actual good translation? Please tell me which.

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>>29064288
I'm talking about today's episode, after they left the shed she didn't mention anything about a noise.
>>29064888
I think you should refrain from being in the thread then, subs come out like 2-3 hours after the episode airs. Even if I don't post anything, others might.

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>>29065210
What I mean is that its coming out right now and I am waiting and soon will watch it but if you want to bait a discussion you could say something like "what happened with rika this episode?" it was said something very spoilish instead.

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>>29065164
Nii-sama's alright, they fixed a couple of errors in the early Onidamashi subs.

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>>29065310
I'm just saying anon, for your sake, the safest way to avoid spoilers is to not be inside the thread until the subs come out. It's only a couple of hours after the episode airs so surely you can wait that long.

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>>29065419
I said I am waiting F5ing for the episode and soon I will be immune to spoilers. Can't you guys just hold some minutes for me to watch it?

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>>29065524
Like I said, even if I personally don't post anything, others might, so it's not safe to be here even if you try to warn people. Not to mention those who aren't even in this thread yet but might be here next week to post spoilers because they don't know about your warning (or choose to ignore it).

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>>29056557
there a torrent of the mega archive? im willing to sneed

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>>29065719
Nevermind fren episode is out im going to watch it.
Cheers!

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>>29065865
just use Jdownloader

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>>29065886
Where do you watch it?

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What were they implying when Keiichi's eyes were covered in shadow for a split second when he drank from his cup? Same thing happened with Shion eatlier and I thought she would poison him with the restaurant food.

This has to mean something. Maybe Keiichi is planning to rape Shion?

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>>29065968
I can't say it because I am being monitored.

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>>29065968
y-you aren't streaming, right Anon?

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>>29066004
nvm found it.

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>>29066073
Good job anon. God bless.

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>>29065907
Disgusting.

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>>29058724
Hot!

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>>29065210
Didn't even realize it's out yet.
Fuck.

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so rika's giving up too early because she doesn't know about the new events.

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>>29067786
Rika didn't actually look creepy saying all those things it was just Keiichi getting the syndrome. No its not some muh Rika pure waifu shit just like they did to Rena its very plausible considering the context and how Keiichi was lacking sleep as well.

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>>29067834
keiichi was lacking sleep the day after the festival in the original watanagashi-hen too you know, he didn't see any scary rika back then.

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Watanagashi has always been my favorite arc.

The tool shed scene has a great atmosphere and the lead up to it is peak comfy summer night, especially when you add a slutty girl forcing you into it and a couple of trespassers offering you to join their mischief. The idea of doing something forbidden while everyone else is at the festival is really appealing.

I also love how people keep disappearing every night and how the culprit joins in on the search every time, especially knowing what she's doing to the victims after Keiichi leaves and goes home. It's horrifying.

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>>29067834
I thought the same. Keiichi's the one hallucinating this time - Rika doesn't have any intention of losing as stated by the manga, so I really doubt she really said what she did in that scene. Also, Keiichi used the same cat analogy Rika used during Watanagashi - this should've given her enough hope to not give up on this world.

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>>29063863
Tomitake also didn't say anything about a noise this time either like he did originally.

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>>29068185
Because Rika didn't spout information like she did now. It's like you can talk about teddy bears in a conversation and you might not trigger paranoia on someone susceptible to it but if you trigger certain words it can and it does.
Words have power and can hide things literally was explained in this episode wata meaning entrails as well and that is literally subliminal messaging and might be a clue to the trigger of the syndrome in the village since they talk about the festival with each other to start the trigger words. In Ciconia trigger words are a theme with the MK Ultra thematic considering our real world and I am starting to think that Higurashi is having the theme as well with this episode.

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>watching higurashi during the Election 2020 massacre
stop wasting time here
we have a nation to save!!!

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>>29068738
>not learning from Ryukishi how to solve this degenerate gameboard we have on reality.

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>>29057230
Trash

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>>29068523
does the disease early on actually make people spout mumbo jumbo that you'd have no way of understanding? I remember when "Mion" asked Keiichi if he had seen Shion again at school, that was an actual fuckup by her and she said it in the most casual way possible, but in Keiichi's eyes she looked terrifying despite the words not changing at all. The contrast between the scary visuals and the casual words makes the victim think the people around them are being sarcastic and are actually threatening them. it's not until later stages of the disease that they start hearing ghosts and shit. Whereas Rika here was pretty goddamn explicit, scary face or not, you'd never expect to hear "THIS WORLD IS DOOMED ALREADY AND WE'RE ALL FINISHED" in a normal conversation.

but then again the disease's effects aren't set in stone, some people don't even get itchy skin at all even at L5.

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>>29069731
But Rika could be talking under her breath or murmuring sort of and obviously Keiichi scared could actually listen to her.

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>>29067834
>>29068368
Despite appearing like that, Rika actually doesn't reveal any information that Keiichi couldn't have thought about in his own head, so a delusion is likely. She:
>Tells him he should've just watched her dance.
This could be Keiichi's own guilt.
> Tells he shoudn't have done it on the night of Watanagashi.
Keiichi already know all the context behind the festival. Again, Keiichi's own guilt.
> Tells that Tomitake and Takano must already be dead.
Keiichi already knows two people disappear/die in the night of Watanagashi, so it isn't strange to him to deduce both are dead.
>Shion probably is alive.
Since Keiichi talked with Shion last night, he probably deduced she's still alive. If it was really Rika, since she has the knowledge, she would know both the twins are still alive at this point.
The scene probably happened like this: Rika talked with Keiichi, he then uses the cat analogy and Rika actually forgives him, and laughs at the analogy telling him to not worry about it. But then you add the syndrome, and he perceives it like she was scoffing at the analogy and getting mad at him about breaking into the shrine.

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i think you guys are reallllllly stretching with these delusion theories, lol

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>>29071339
I think the cat analogy is a red erring to the next scene since it goes full Umineko that cats=bern confirmed when Frederica 100% from Higurashi had nothing to do with cats as far as I remember. Also agree all is going around Keiichi guilt and psychological delusions created but this. What meddles with me is that the possibility of the oni blood being more then a legend in this. And really liked the whole wata word play not sure if was mentioned on the original sources before.

>>29071418
Trump Won
Joking. Leaving Election memes aside I don't think we are stretching that much.

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>>29071418
It's not stretching. In every single WTC you need to doubt what is shown to you - because the protagonist's perspective is always prone to be wrong.

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>>29071693
But there's no real reason to doubt that the Rika scene didn't happen exactly as shown. All the reasoning you posted are massive stretches with lots of personal interpretation involved that it's really pointless to even argue about.

The more interesting thing to talk about from this episode is Satoko's role in what happened. She was suspiciously missing on the day of Watanagashi, and she was the person who interrupted Rika's conversation with K1, after all. I actually would not be surprised if Satoko was the person who tipped off Takano and Tomitake to leave the village.

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>>29072041
Satoko was missing in the original VN. That one scene played the same way as the VN.

Do you prefer to believe Rika gave up or snapped just because the doll wasn't enough? I don't think she's that dumb, and it would be bad writing, especially if you consider the manga scene where she is shown to be determined enough even after Onidamashi. Surely I don't have proof to my claims, and we probably won't have it until the answer arcs or a meta scene, I'm just sharing my perception of the scene, so just believe what you want to.

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>>29072041
>>29068368
>Rika doesn't have any intention of losing as stated by the manga
As I said before the whole possible red erring for people to jump into umineko connection with mentioning cats and Rika having a meta meltdown sounds suspicious for me.

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>>29071693
There is a difference between doubting everything you see and assuming that everything has to be a lie. It's possible that Keiichi is hallucinating, but it makes just as much sense to assume that Rika is turning into a doomer, or possibly even a villain.

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>>29072857
Teaching Erika the value of love!

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>>29072374
I think it's more likely for high school Rika to get extremely triggered when she hears her stupid cat metaphor repeated back to her straight from K1's mouth.

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>>29073703
Now that makes sense. "Oh fuck are you reminding me of my shameful childhood! How dare you!"

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>>29074167
>>29073703
That implies the whole cats=bern confirmed which is just on the Umineko context and Frederica in Higurashi isn't related to cats just the wine and spicy food.
Reminding on the childhood is stretching because of remind on the past thing un Umineko.

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>>29074352
BernKastle is Battler's famiy culprit theory

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>>29074402
Trash

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>>29074352
it's not a stretch when keiichi tells rika the same metaphor that rika told keiichi in the original watanagashi

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>>29074402
Thats on Umineko we are talking about Higurashi which has Frederica.

>>29074536
Either its subs shenanigans or not doesn't feel totally correct how Rika spoke to Keiichi something is off. Could be just Passione being poop.

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>>29074680
>Thats on Umineko we are talking about Higurashi which has Frederica.
a sorry let me fix it

Bernkastle is (insert MC) culprit theory

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>>29074825
No. In Higurashi Frederica is not a witch and goes to meta tea parties and there isn't the rules we have in Umineko.
So culprit theory and that isn't the same thing for Higurashi.

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/a/ unironically seethes at every mention of umineko in higurashi threads.

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>>29075305
Hope you are not implying anything here but you are correct that /a/ acts like a shithole most the time.

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>>29075422
It is fun to watch though but monkies throwing shit at eachother will get annoying after 3 days.

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>>29075536
Yea I stopped going there since the end of GOU arc 1. If nobody in /jp/ has nothing to say about the episodes then I'll just wait for next episodes or answer arcs.

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it's sad because discussion here is much more dead than the gou threads but the gou threads are filled with anime only autists that hate the mere mention of umineko

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I blame a certain someone for killing it, but yeah my lips are tearing up thanks to the tribalists.

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>>29074825
>>29074942
>>29074942
Italianon who has not read Higurashi VNs and has no interest them is seething that sometimes people talk about Higurashi here and is desperate to move the conversation back to his theories.
No point in telling him he is wrong. He is always wrong anyway.

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>>29075994
>lips are tearing up
what does that expression mean

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I think everyone here is a faggot and that the threads got worse after gou was released

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how would a gou style thing for umineko look like?

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>>29075995
Yea but I am not trying to fight him either.

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>>29076021
My lips are fucking bleeding mate because all of that salt makes em dry.

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>>29076023
Most posters of the general seems to have emigrate to /a/ to talk about Higurashi Gou.

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>>29056557
what is this picture

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The purist's hands shaking as he clicks through a line that faintly mentions a character's breasts, nearly passing out at the mere thought.

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>>29077006
Art for Looper, a new story Ryukishi's working on with Key.

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>>29068523
The monologue from Skull Face's "Words can kill" does hold true. Well, perhaps not "kill", but drive someone into a corner. Or not. Hard to tell your level of abuse tolerance relative to another's without actually inflicting said abuse on another.

Then we reach the stuff that seems to scream out to me from R07's work. "I was bullied so I will bully you, I will inflict pain onto you like was inflicted onto me. And if you somehow do better at resisting said pain, I will become very angry with you for daring to not suffer in the way I suffered."

It's the latter situation, the one where your abuser gets angry at you for not submitting to the abuse, that causes the Higurashi laugh. It's a scary laugh, sure, but it's also a sad laugh.

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>>29078731
So you mean that GOU is shit and a troll for true fans? I'm confused.

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>>29079093
I don't really know.

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>>29079688
Godspeed anon. Stay safe.

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>>29079902
A phrase I’m sure people hate saying as much as they hate hearing.

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did Rika lock up Kimiyoshi to keep him safe?

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>>29081309
Never assume nobility in WTC, the witches will laugh and call you a retard for it.

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>>29057230
Pics are always better.

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>>29056557
Alright, I just finished Ciconia, and I don't understand anything.
By that I mean I DO understand everything, but I assume there must be some sort of elaborate meta-layer mystery I'm not noticing.
It all SEEMS totally straightforward, Illuminati orders fight for/against biblical prophesies/secret plans made by god/aliens to exterminate/digitize humanity. I'm assuming the frog is also the flaying machine, just for maximum irony, and probably there's some sort of timeloop/prophesyloop thing with Miyao's blue-da-ba-dee-da-ba-die persona coming from the future to retroactively erase himself from the past or something. Which is probably related to the Pandora and the time machine.

BUT WHAT'S THE MYSTERY?!

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>>29082651
twink butthole
that's all there is to it

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>>29082651
The mystery of how Miyao is able to take my dick everyday

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I really liked the theory stuff early on but now I’m starting to get burnt out on reading schizo Gou theories every week desu, will probably just stop looking at these threads for a while just for the sake of my enjoyment

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>>29076138
>Most posters of the general seems to have emigrate to /a/ to talk about Higurashi Gou
Why the fuck would you want to talk to /a/ secondaries that only have a surface understanding of Higurashi's themes and don't even understand the characters?

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>>29082804
god i just want to pin him down and fuck his throat, how did Ryukishi manage to create such a design?

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Is Satoko aware of how pathetic her loli arse is?

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So what will be your reaction when it turns out that Higurashi Gou is an Umineko prequel with Featherine playing the role of the mastermind?

And how will you react when the new Umineko anime gets announced?

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>>29083598
Probably not and desu, very little people are aware of how pathetic their arses are.
They have a brief moments of realization, like when they need to use the changing room at a swimming pool but other than that, they live in sweet ignorance.

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So why exactly did they report that takano and tomitake stole a car and drove away?
Did rika try something that made them to that maybe?..

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>>29084133
We don't know if that was in police report
It's just the version that Shion told to Keiichi

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>>29085509
""shion""

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>>29082804
>>29082875
>canonically can get him ass-pregnant
GOD BLESS THE AOU!

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>>29085509
>>29085698
But rika also said "it's strange that tomitakes body hasn't been found" right?
And wouldn't it usually be shions goal to scare keiichi at this point? Why should she make up things like that if she already knew they were dead instead..

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>>29086193
rika dismissed it out of hand because she's still being overconfident.
>yeah, he hasn't been found yet but it's only a matter of time and this fragment if over anyway

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>>29086366
Hm fair enough. Rika is certainly behaving strange overall though. Doesn't feel like episode 7-8 rika at all.

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remember ciconia lol

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New manga chapter, covers until Kei-chan meets Shmion at Angel Mort.
https://web-ace.jp/youngaceup/contents/1000147/
Some quick differences I noticed:
>The games are completely skipped
>Kei-chan goes straight to Angel Mort after the tournament
>Kei-chan goes alone, not with his dad
>A very important shot of the waitresses (pic related)
>Anime: Kei-chan gets his order
>Manga: Kei-chan is about to order
>Anime: A short compliment, then straight into the Shion reveal
>Manga: A pretty long segment where Kei-chan compliments Mion in more ways than I can be bothered to write down
>Anime: Shmion is flustered
>Manga: She pretty much had an orgasm on the spot
Excepting the Hanyuu scene, the manga so far has been the short and condensed version of the anime. We get some cute character drawings, but other than that it lacks most of the animated content. It is interesting to see which scenes it keeps though, as I assume those are the important ones. This is more relevant as one gets into the arcs of course.

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>>29086918
>>29086366
Wouldn't it be funny if everything actually worked out but Rika keeps fucking it thinking she needs to fix everything?
>Rena and Keichi survived the fight, but
>Rika killed Satoko and herself anyway
>Takano and Tomitake left town, and the Irie clinic shut down, Shion and Mion never had a fight that night
>Rika freaks out and drives Keichi to L5
So when she finally totally gives up, stops trying, ands goes completely insane, leaving all her friends to die, everything works out perfect and everyone lives, but they all hate her and she's totally alone.

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>>29090060
These kinds of details are very cute though.

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>>29082651
I'll enlighten you on the meta mystery layer of Ciconia, brace yourself, for the true mystery is: where the fuck is Phase 2

Jokes aside, it's true that Ciconia doesn't have a "fixated mystery" because the stakes and the scenario are a lot bigger than a closed one like Higu and Umi, so you can't really sum them into a single question. Who's siding with who, what's each player true objective? I think Ciconia is the WTC with most questions, just with Phase 1 alone.

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>>29083736
Cautiously optimistic.
I'd be scared that they'll end up doing an anime original look into the cat box rather than readapting the original story(or adapting Chiru), for obvious reasons.

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>>29093502
I mean low-questions like "who are the four traitors" are obvious, but what's the central point of the story? What are the characters/we trying to accomplish here by solving it?
Like say we learn where the alien/god technology comes from, so? What does that matter?
Is it just "can you figure out how to stop the world from ending?" I really don't think that's it, there's a lot of hints that it's over ALREADY even before the story starts.

Or maybe put in another way, Higurashi and Umineko can be 80% SOLVED within the first episode. Going back and re-reading makes it really obvious what's happening. So is Ciconia the same?

Additionally, I saw an AWFUL LOT of runes and numeric codes. And a lot of emphasis on biblical texts and "translating the words of God". I can't help but imagine those are all important. Has anyone translated/decrypted them?

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>>29083736
I am still not convinced of the level of involvement R07 had for Gou. He didn't write the anime script, and in the 07th party stream he made a comment about how the anime script writer 'really captured the essence of his plot' which sounded like a total cop-out to me.

I'm kind of a bit pessimistic about Gou but I hope it's a 10/10 masterpiece and proves me wrong

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>>29083736
Whatever my reaction was weeks ago when I first saw Featherine in the opening

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>>29056557
https://forms.gle/ko1E6s1MmZhdx5dW6
you guys better vote for Beato

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>>29094281
Guessing and confirming are two different things.

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>>29098031
Yeah yeah good fucking luck solving 80% right off. You need at least the second episode and better third.
And then you need some chiru to get that 20% about battler not only being alive and trying to get his memories, buy also where exactly he is and what's his fucking problem

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>>29094281
>>29101645

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>>29101534
>>29101692
So, in other words, we're screwed until phase two?
And phase two is indefinitely delayed...

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>>29082804
>>29082875
>>29083582
>>29085984
I understand how you're feeling, but every hint points to Miyao being a girl. It just makes more sense, just like it makes more sense for Yasu to be a boy. (Is there any art of them together, by the way?)

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>>29102401
I'm guessing hermaphrodite or robot personally.

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IT'S OVER IT'S FUCKING OVER
then who the fuck puts a life jacket on a cruise ship
(Thanks anon again for this image)

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>>29102593
trash

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>>29094281
There's also the quotes that shows up in-between chapters. The quotes sometimes came from the scene before that break.
It might be something to the level of "The story is purely fictional." thing of Umineko, at the start of the firsts Episode.

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>>29102401
(and by "I understand how you're feeling" I mean I also want to fuck Miyao)

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whats the point of two people fucking if they dont both have a penis?

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>>29102593
Stupid post

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How long did everyone take to find the culprit in Umineko ep 8?

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>>29104446
It was quite easy. You know that the culprit can lie with the purple truth, you just had to find a contradiction with someone else purple truth. Then, every things comes together when you solve the closed room.
It took me around 30 minutes to solve it.
I was able to find out it was Battler and his parents because of Battler's shirt colour that can easily hide blood stains. The solution of the last closed room in the guesthouse wasn't really that, but I find it quite funny to imagine.

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>>29075305
/a/ likes umineko memes

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>>29104934
I'm mad because I got body blocked by the stupid mansion sealing for ages, it took me ages to actually guess that someone sneaked out while they were sealing the damn mansion.
I'm even more mad because initial thought was Battler being the culprit too which was found almost instantly because of the guesthouse contradiction but I apparently forgot that for all of my subsequent guesses.
I also wasted a ton of time because I thought you had to red out all the people who weren't culprits for quite some time.
I really wish they had more of this style mystery sequences in the game. It was super fun.

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>>29104446
3 hours or so but it was early in the morning and i hadn't slept

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>mfw reading all these retarded "theories" written by people who have obviously never read the VNs
Do yourself a favor and just stop. You're just outing yourself as the idiot you are.

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>>29104934
>I was able to find out it was Battler and his parents because of Battler's shirt colour that can easily hide blood stains.
I never thought about that. I started with Nanjo's purple statement.
>>29105223
>I'm mad because I got body blocked by the stupid mansion sealing for ages, it took me ages to actually guess that someone sneaked out while they were sealing the damn mansion.
When the game ends one of the parents is still sealed in the room, the other kills Jessica.

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>>29094281
>Or maybe put in another way, Higurashi and Umineko can be 80% SOLVED within the first episode.
>higurashi can be solved
No it can't. You can at best make some assumptions about the general plot but figruing out everything fro mthe first chapter alone is impossible. There just isn't enough info.

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>>29105223
where can I find these comics

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>>29098031
>I am still not convinced of the level of involvement R07 had for Gou
He literally showed us a giant fucking book with the script he wrote for the story.

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>>29105772
rifyu

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>>29106964
oh yeahhh

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>>29104064
>whats the point of two people fucking if they dont both have a penis?

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>>29105772
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=rifyu+umineko_no_naku_koro_ni

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>>29107039
Does Yasu dilate?

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Just found this theory on Twitter: https://twitter.com/The_Mr_Dent/status/1326988188859117570
It seems quite plausible.

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>>29107297
Judge for yourself probably not, and this scene is fantasy

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>>29104178
Fake
very smart post

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beato

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>>29108182
rice

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>>29107297
Stop with this meme.

Dilating means painfully shoving a dildo in your festering castration wound 3 times a day to prevent it from healing. It's known as a woundgina. Yasu isn't a tranny freak, he's just an unwilling eunuch with a functional peehole that Nanjo thought would pass as a cunny.

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Rosa!

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>>29108207
MAGA CRUDELE
DI BELEZZA SENZA PARI

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>>29108985
BEAT(o)RICE
DI DOLCEZZA CAPRICCIOSA

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>>29109149
prostate exam

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>>29108803
more like HOEsa

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>>29109288

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>>29109711
>tfw mommy will never slap you around

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so that's it. sayo died by drowning herself

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I finished reading Higurashi and still have no idea what the first scene in Onikakushi is supposed to be.

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>>29110787
It's keiichi killing rena and mion in his room at the end of onikakushi quite obviously..

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>>29110779
Maybe she did, maybe she washed up, maybe she was never on the boat.

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>>29110779
Nope yasu tried to kill herself ,Battler jumped from the beat and saved her but with a cost he lost his memory
So Yasi decided to live fpr Battler.
She become Ikuko and started to write story about rokkejima to make Battler solve them in the hop to get his memory back

ALL UMINEKO IS THE MAGIC VERSION OF THESE EVENTS

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>>29110988
Trash

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>>29110787
why

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>>29110779
Probably

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>>29110779
Actually she was abducted by aliens who gave her a proper pussy and some fat milkers and she lived happily ever after

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>>29111364
Better than Erikantrice theory

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>>29111364
Not at all unlikely at this point.

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>>29110787
I always thought it was Rika.

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>>29108803
Good post
>>29109288
Bad post
>>29109711
Phenomenal post

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>>29111855
To think trannies get tricked into mutilating themselves... Why the fuck would you do that to yourself?

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>>29108182

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>>29112635
Ask your dad.

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Ciconiabros I have solved Higurashi Gou!
In the highschool Rika time a bunch of Tokyo people kidnapped her and tried to clone Rika's time travel powers, her Pandora, into someone else.
That's right, they successfully put Rika's Pandora inside Satoko's brain, however an error occured and that caused their Pandorified brains to go all the way back to 1983.
And also Featherine is there.
How can animeonlyfags even beat this level of intelect?

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( °3° )

(O O)

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My machine translation-guided take on the lyrics for the first verse of Kasaneawase no Nekobako, with the moonrunes if anyone who actually speaks nip wants to make corrections

見る者を見返すような　描かれたその視線
That gaze, as if looking back at the viewer
深き愛に溺れるほど　糸は絡み合う
The deeper you fall in love, the more tangled the threads become

第四の壁が破れ　ロジックは迷宮入り
The fourth wall is torn back and all logic is lost
描き込まれた幻想？　それは突然
What illusions will be portrayed? It all happens so suddenly

赤黒い惨状は　まるであざ笑うように　もう始まる───
As if in mockery, the curtain rises on this crimson tragedy

目に見えぬ支配者は　神秘なる力で　概念を飛び越え
The unseen ruler transcends concepts with mystical power
考察も価値を失う　悪魔の証明
Before the devil's proof, all inquiry is meaningless
非実なる肖像　華麗なる残虐　出来過ぎたゲームの
A false portrait of splendid cruelty, a game of excess
閉ざした箱も　いつかほころび　覗いてごらん　かすかに見えた夢
Someday the closed box will crack open, and a glimpse of a dream will be visible
ミステリー　先の見えない　錆びたスパイラル
This mystery is a rusty spiral with no end in sight

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>>29115156
I dunno if there's some metaphorical meaning to rust in Japanese or if "rusty spiral" just sounds less silly than it does in English

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FAT FAT FAT

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>>29117138
Angle is beautifully proportioned
George is like a massive Incel zeppelin

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>>29117138
Wow, was George so fat that Ange remembers his fatness after 12 years?

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>>29118832
His defining features are his fatness and hebephilia

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>>29118832
No one could forget the power

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fat glasses man is so fucking fat and so fucking glasses

so fucking fat

and all of you as well!

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explain the "george is fat" meme

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>>29120318
Obesity is a medical condition in which excess body fat has accumulated to an extent that it may have a negative effect on health.[1] People are generally considered obese when their body mass index (BMI), a measurement obtained by dividing a person's weight by the square of the person's height—despite known allometric inaccuracies[a]—is over 30 kg/m2; the range 25–30 kg/m2 is defined as overweight.[1] Some East Asian countries use lower values.[10] Obesity is correlated with various diseases and conditions, particularly cardiovascular diseases, type 2 diabetes, obstructive sleep apnea, certain types of cancer, and osteoarthritis.[2] High BMI is a marker of risk, but not proven to be a direct cause, for diseases caused by diet, physical activity, and environmental factors.[11] A reciprocal link has been found between obesity and depression, with obesity increasing the risk of clinical depression and also depression leading to a higher chance of developing obesity.[3]

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>>29109711
BF SKINNER GIVE ME STRENGTH

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>>29109149
paizuri onegaishimasu

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>>29118832
Ange remembers George well

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So Shannon never had fat honkers in reality huh

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Who was Yasu's appearance closest too?
Shannon, Kanon or Beato?

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>>29120767
Literally just Shannon but without the stuffed bra
She straightens her hair out a bit to play Kanon

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>>29109149
nursing handjob nursing handjob

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>>29120767
Yasu is often drawn with Shannon's hairstyle but with black hair.

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rate

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>takano will never disinterestedly milk you into a tiny plastic cup
why even live

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>>29122170
I'd rather milk her instead.

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>>29122132
Pretty solid list, but personally, I'd put Bern next to Takano.

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>>29122132
pretty good, but ange and jessica are too low

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>>29122316
I just don't 'get' Ange. She doesn't do much for me.

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>>29122132
Chie and Bern too low

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>sea cat
What?

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>>29124456
Umi neko?

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>>29124475
Why do the sea cats cry

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>>29104446
It was a forced solution. Battler's family and George's family aren't the only feasable solution. For the first time I was guessing right. In my 2nd re-read I find out nothing else is possible. I thought the flow of the mystery depended on which piece of cake you chose.

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>>29122132
post chart template

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>>29125187
>piece of cake you chose.
>lambdadelta is a cake
lambadelta represents a choice where you stay as certainty

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Just finished Saku and I thought it was fairly dull.
The suggestion that Bernkastel and Lamda would turn up in Ciconia was nice at the end but given the indefinite delay for phase 2 it has lost its charm.

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>>29125600
>cum jar
SAVE THEM!!!

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>>29126587
I can't believe someone would do that with Maria's toys!

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>>29122132
Forgot to remove Satoshi, lol

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>>29105564
You can pretty easily figure out what's going on with Keichii(i.e. he's the one who's going nuts) and I don't know if I've ever seen anyone more suspicious than Takano, and in Onikakushi she doesn't even have the excuse of being found dead!
Obviously the greater mysteries are all unsolvable, and you don't even know the big ones EXIST, like Rika and the GHD until later. But if you're willing to use "chemical X" reasoning, you can explain everything that happens in Onikakushi. You'd be WRONG, but it's still a perfectly workable solution.

So I mean, in Ciconia phase 1, you should be able to piece together a solid THEORY of what's going on and "solve" all the mysteries, at least until they're overturned by later parts. For example, we're given the "four traitors" puzzles, it should be possible to make a convincing argument for who they are at least.

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>>29127471
You wouldn't fuck Satoshi? his twink asshole was made for anal sex

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>>29128221
I would fuck Satoshi but not as much as Kanon, Lion or Miyao, I just thought I had removed the male characters.

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>>29125347
https://tiermaker.com/categories/video-games/when-they-cry-characters---ryukishi07-sprites-155730

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>>29127690
That's just backwards reasoning after knowing the answer.
According to your reasoning k1 went crazy on his own, killed 2 people and himself, if anything he has the highest kill count.
Doesn't explain why it couldn't be any of the other named characters,
everything is explained as merely delusions and no explanation is given who altered his will, or why and how they found it aside from finding it by chance.

suddenly none of the mysteries are solved

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>>29122132
>>29125347
superior version

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>>29122132

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>>29122132

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Late to this but I really wish Umineko didn't portray Yasu as Shannon so hard in the latter segments.
I wasn't able to totally separate the characters until recently and now a lot of the scenes are far more significant.
This sucks because I was looking at Beato as some sort of an illusionary entity and Shannon as the real Yasu when in fact it was the exact opposite so some scenes lacked the punch they should have had for me.

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if the ushitomiyas were muslims then george could marry maria and live happily

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Naima is so cute, I can't believe she's got an asshole. And yet, she does! Mindblowing!

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I want to spank and dominate Rosa while Eva verbally abuses her.

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Why isn't RGD adapted to anime? It's the easiest one to adapt to anime and it would be easily popular, in my opinion.
Although, the production committee would certainly have some fujo pandering.

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>>29104446
For like an hour and a half I tried to work it out myself but I was too confused about certain aspects so I ended up asking a friend for help working through my logic. In a fit of autism I never used bern's tips which probably would have helped out quite a bit

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>>29142845
>I ended up asking a friend
>I never used bern's tips
I can't believe you don't consider Bernie-chan your friend

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>>29142845
>ignoring Bern
Are you like dumb or something for disregarding Frederica?

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>>29104446
Just finished ep 8 of the vn, saw the puzzle earlier this week, but unfortunately I got spoiled on it, one of the few things I got spoiled about.

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Is the Higurashi Rei anime good? I want to read it but no one is seeding it.

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>>29143529
you know, we have a mega thats linked in every op, right?
the vn, manga, and anime for Rei are right there

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>>29143808
thanks I appreciate it

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Would you let Mion dress you up in girly clothes while she whispered sweet nothings into your ear while you were doing it?

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shion

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>>29057490
Mion's 17 year old tummy

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Just finished Tatarigoroshi and I have no clue about the solution, the chapter solved a few questions but raised way more.

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>>29147311
4chan isn't the best place to be if you're still reading. You'll be spoiled eventually.

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>>29063863
No shit she's not hearing nor Tomitake any noises because Hanyuu is no longer in that world with Rika.

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>>29068368
>this should've given her enough hope to not give up on this world.
bruh. The moment Rika heard that Kimiyoshi is missing = dead, it's pretty much a red flag that it's all over for her.
She's not as naive as to stop and inject Shion on her own anymore since she already knows the rules of the world. (though she might still try next ep I dunno)
So it's understandable why she's already given up on this one.
One of her main goal is that to reach a future where none of her friends succumb to rule X , remember?
There's literally nothing she could do if Shion or Mion (maybe) is already L4 and already had bodies some people(also assuming the Oryou is probably already dead too.)
And no. Tsumihoroboshi's solution won't work because K1 is not a chad in this timeline.

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>>29153728
>had bodies
had bodied I mean. lol

>>29072374
>Do you prefer to believe Rika gave up or snapped just because the doll wasn't enough?

As I explained on the other post, there is a lot of dead end in the Watadamashi timeline right now that it's understandable that she have judged that there is no moves left for her anymore to reach a future like in Matsuri. Literally 0.
She cant do anything to fix L4-L5 patients aside from stabbing syringes in them. Only K1 could move people's hearts as shown in Tsumi, and that is if he managed to retain his memories even.

So might as well scare K1 for the lulz while he's still alive.

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>>29086193
>But rika also said "it's strange that tomitakes body hasn't been found"
That whole line that she said about Tomitake and Takano was sus.
One could say that she might have something to do with it since she 'confirmed' that they're both dead, which might be an anime newcomer red herring worded that way or Rika knows someone killed them/killed them herself somehow.

Btw, I'm pretty sure killing Takano would just make it easier for Tokyo to get permission to 'gas' the village by framing Irie. Though they still need to kill Rika after.

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>Umineko chapter 6
When fighting over the first closed room, Battler as the game master had been deciding and declaring the red truths (e.g. when Erika is approaching Battler's closed room, he would then decide whether the seals are intact / broken, and before turning the lights on whether Battler is on the bed / otherwise dead).
Why is it that a moment later, Erika (or maybe Dlanor & co.) run off to the guest rooms and declare in red that the door's seals are intact? Shouldn't that have been for Battler to decide? I thought he'd just say (having been almost trapped) that "the seals are broken," which would be disadvantageous, but at least wouldn't put him through the hell that he then faces for creating a logic error.

I'd usually just read further and hope to find out; it's strictly because it was stated in red and then everyone just accepted it. Am I just dumb?

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>>29155330
>Shouldn't that have been for Battler to decide?
Because Erika herself is the one putting the duct tapes and it's all factual that she really did? Battler gave her the authority to use those tapes after all.
> I thought he'd just say (having been almost trapped) that "the seals are broken," which would be disadvantageous, but at least wouldn't put him through the hell that he then faces for creating a logic error.

Because ones he backs out of that close room and had broken the seals, then it pretty much admitting that a human had passed through that door and it's Battler? Sure ones his Battler piece left the room, he could've offered another mystery instead, but it will be so obvious for Erika. lol

Just think about the pay off once Battler left that room while the seals are still intact.
And he sure did. Well, Beato did anyway and used 'that trick' against Erika much more splendidly.

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>>29155871
>Beato did anyway and used 'that trick' against Erika much more splendidly.

And that's how 'Battler is incompetent' in red plays out in the answer arc.
It's also interesting that that red is used in ep 2 and ep 6 is pretty much the answer arc of it.
Though what if the real answer to that red is that Battler is not actually competent? Sure you have heard the theory about Battler planning the logic error scenario to protect the 'truth' about Beato.
And it was revealed in ep 6 that Beato is actually Battler's piece so..

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>>29156163
> is that Battler is not actually competent?
I mean incompetent. My apology.

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>>29155871
>Because Erika herself is the one putting the duct tapes and it's all factual that she really did?
I'm not doubting that the tape was put there; it's just odd that she could declare its state in red all of the sudden, despite first asking battler about the other problems.
>She asked whether Battler's room's seals were broken/intact before observing them, and he decided
>She asked whether Battler was found dead in the room before observing it, and he decided
>She DIDN'T ask about the guesthouse/cousin's rooms before observing, she just declared it was intact
It shouldn't be that "his decisions were granted to him by Erika, and she decided not to give him the decision," since by nature of the game master, they're his decisions whether she asks explicitly or not.

The rest of your post sort of alludes to an answer though; it may have just been that Battler decided that they would be intact, but Ryukishi's suddenly decided
>I'll uncharacteristically skip discussing this one
>Battler won't care to talk about it
>Erika will suddenly decide to not ask about it upfront (despite it still being for Battler to decide)

Unless I'm misunderstanding what it means to be the game-master, or something else

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfNaaqm8xPU

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>>29132915
>>29132944
>>29133436
>top tiers all have EVA

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>>29156526
>it's just odd that she could declare its state in red all of the sudden, despite first asking battler about the other problems.
She can't really declare it in red but her companions does. But yeah, all they can declare in red is the state of the duct tape seals that Erika can see in her POV, that's all.

>She asked whether Battler's room's seals were broken/intact before observing them, and he decided
Erika asked this because this was her move. Notice that they keep asking in turns like chess? Anyway, she asked Battler to confirm the seal in the door first because if Battler escaped the room, then the tape in that door will be gone and that is up to Battler if he chooses to move his piece outside the guest room or not.
Notice how Erika asked if the tape seals are still intact while she was still outside the mansion? Yeah she's baiting him.

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>>29157256
>and that is up to Battler if he chooses to move his piece outside the guest room or not.
That's why Erika can't confirm if the seals are broken or not in her turn until Battler makes his own move in his turn.
And this could only all be accomplished because of that damn duct tape. It's pretty efficient in monitoring the pieces in the rooms.
That's why I love ep 6. It's so meta.

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>>29155330
>Why is it that a moment later, Erika (or maybe Dlanor & co.) run off to the guest rooms and declare in red that the door's seals are intact?
detective authority
Detective can only see and hear truth, so game master cant change anymore what was already confirmed as truth.
>>29157529
LMAO SHIT
change shannon with Erika and Lion's dress with Kanon's dress

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>>29157256
>Erika asked this because this was her move. Notice that they keep asking in turns like chess?
Though this is not always the case. The game master could do some moves without us knowing most of the time. But in ep 6, Erika pretty much trapped all the pieces in rooms and sealed them, so the game master's move is limited.
And what really fck Battler more is that he did the classic letter move that Battler's corpse is missing without knowing that Erika actually sealed that room of his.

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>>29134639
Then Shkanontrice is fake since Yasu in Shkanontrice is just Shannon

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>>29122132

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>>29157920
Bruh. Erika doesn't have detective authority in ep 6, so that's why only her companions could use red, not her and only about regarding the 3 rooms worth of duct tapes. Nothing more, nothing less.

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>>29158032
>only about regarding the 3 rooms worth of duct tapes
Meaning the duct tape themselves.
Besides that, she could confirm the bodies that she have killed herself in red.

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>>29132915
why is satoshi on there

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>>29158032
Like Battler said detective authority is like the title witch.
You must gain it and made it be recognized by others

At this point of the game Erika was already know as the detective by the parents

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>>29158302
trash

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>>29158302
Erika doesn't have the detective authority in ep 6.
The proof of this are
1. She could see Kanon and Shannon in 1 room in her POV, which proved that it is not objective at all. After all, only culprit and accomplices could see both at once which is the main illusion of the witch. No wonder Erika was so mad in the ep 8 manga since she is basically has been forced to witness and 'accept' that magic without even her knowing in ep 6.
2. Erika was the culprit in that episode.

cope.

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>>29158569
1) Erika never saw Kanon in ep6
2)lambda red truth:
>There was an exception clause in the original, but for this game 'the detective isn't a culprit' has been proclaimed in red, so you don't need to consider the exception. (Referring to Knox's 7th)
So in all the games except the 5th the detective can kill

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>>29141191
VNs don't usually get anime adaptations unless they're phenomenally popular. LNs and Manga get adaptations because they're ongoing works that can be more exposure through an anime. Not usually the case for VNs.

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>>29158302
Trash

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>>29157961
Idiot

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https://files.catbox.moe/oq31xs.webm
worldend_dominator

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>>29163153
I want to dominate Mariaのrear end.

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>>29115156
>>29115213
Actually, I guess "a spiral of decay" might capture the same meaning

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>>29162904
>>29162934

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>>29145097
my pregnant wife

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Which sounds better
>This mystery is a spiral of decay with no end in sight
or
>A mystery with no end in sight, a spiral of decay

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lmao

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>>29164226
>barking at my legs
?????????

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>>29164226
post pic

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is there any way to watch damedame umineko without the fucked up resolution

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>>29127690
>You'd be WRONG, but it's still a perfectly workable solution.
Well, I was thinking about if it was possible to deduce EVERYTHING that happened through the first arc alone

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>>29164226
Lmao, suffer bitch.

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>>29164691
>is there any way to watch damedame umineko without it being damedame umineko

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>>29164784
I don't think you can deduce everything ACCURATELY in just the first arc alone, no.
And no.. Pulling random theories out of your ass whether you hit or misses doesn't count. God I hate that.
Understand the core of the story first, then you might craft something up along the way.

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>>29164226
>I choose to feel molested and there's nothing you can do about it
lol

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>>29163812
the first one

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Satoko is and developing girl! What a loser! She's so proud, and yet her awkward preteen body attracts the attention of grown men! How can she live with herself?

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>>29158032
I am pretty sure you confused with the red truth. Everyone can use red truth - see Natsuhi. But in the court chapters of EP5 red truth from humans weren't accepted, that's why they didn't accepted
>Natsuhi is innocent.
Also, Bernkastel (and Lamda) was (were) forming red truths for Erika. These are actually suspicious because they imply more or less more informations than the characters or the story suggested. Erika's furniture is depending on the status of something until it is changed. My best guess about EP6 is Erika just killed everyone in the guesthouse but the rescuer - Gaap suggested the easiest solution that someone can simply break a seal but o surprise nobody came but Kanon. Erikantrice intensifies I guess

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>>29168372
Please rewrite this in English

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>>29168357
She's 48 years old, dude.

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>>29168495
No it's the same quality of the replied post.

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>>29169406
Italianon tier trash

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Just want to say that Humiliation is the key to understanding what rules the world right now.
Leaders compromised each other with humiliation videos of each other to blackmail into forcing them to support an agenda. Is Ryukishi really into something?

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Le sanglot de cigales. La cunny de Rika.

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>>29169694
The elite operates like a mafia. Mafias, even to this day, send orders and communicate with corrupt people in positions of power using handwritten notes (you can see this in RGD too). It's the most secure method of communication. It's also "outdated" in the minds normies, making them brush it off and refuse to believe the conspiracy when you explain it to them. Other than being inconspicuous and hard to intercept, notes function as blackmail material. The mafioso (who could even be a prosecutor or judge HIMSELF) bribes a judge or a police officer to do what he wants. Both parties agree to use their signature and real names in the notes, to guarantee it's really that person sending it and to make sure they are tied to the crime. The mafioso (and the other party too, if they are smart) keeps the notes he received over the years to use them for blackmail. If the person is truly useful, these notes are simply archive to guarantee future cooperation and prevent betrayals. If the mafioso is caught, every person involved is fucked too because he has all the notes with their handwriting, signature and fingerprints detailing their participation in the crime.

The elites probably work in a similar way, except instead of using notes, they simply approach immoral people in positions of power, invite them to club Bilderberg and promise them power and wealth if they agree to become masons (the few that would refuse end up accepting anyway because they fear being erased or having their careers destroyed). Once that happens, they make them swear loyalty to the order and in some cases also use the mafia-style notes to blackmail them later.

They also invite them to masonic rituals involving child trafficking and sacrifice, eroding away the few morals they have left, appealing to man's nature as a lewd animal that craves the humiliation of a literal cute. These rituals are filmed and the participants can no longer refuse the orders from above, since they have proof of their wrongdoings and a betrayal would mean their exposure and losing the legal protection of the corrupt masonic judges. The mildest ones, whose morals are hard to erode, are simply enticed with child sex and blackmailed over it afterwards. This is why the media keeps demonizing the mere idea of "pedophilia" to an absurd degree. It's an extremely useful scapegoat for society and can be used to ruin anyone that betrays them. Most of these psycho elites, such as Biden, aren't even pedos (how would a cold psychopath understand the beauty of a little girl). They are simply humans. Humans enjoy humiliating others. Being psychopaths makes it easy for them to accept the offer without their conscience getting in the way.

So yes, humiliation is the key to understanding this world, but not in the way you thought.

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>>29169535
What are you? A parrot? Here's a cracker, Polly.

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>>29171264
I am confused and believe that you are somehow defending pedophilia unironically. I mean the thing here isn't that touching a kids pp literally or something wont be accepted by the population its more likely doing unthinkable things to kids until their deaths and the so called sacrifice its beyond the whole sexual thing its just about the ultimate demonstration of power and SIN to be compromised. Elites would do these things even if they didn't like it its like doing a blood pact and you have to cut your skin even if you wouldn't like it to prove something to the cult members. It doesnt have to be with kids either just let someone else in upper hierarchy do you humiliation to be able to blackmail you if you go against the cult.

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>>29171411
Trash

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>>29164226
cunnypilled

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>>29171709
>defending pedophilia unironically.
Yes? Thought crime is bullshit. Go back to discord.

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>>29172516
Don't bother me. It's your own fault if you provoke Italianon and he keeps posting. Maybe it's your intention after months of "trash" posting since I don't see you relly participate in other discussions and you already run out of topics after entering this thread. At least you have a small yet low goal - stalking Italianon and reply his posts with 'trash'. Do you say it to random people you don't like on the first sight?

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>>29172934
I-UH what you just proved that guy's point you MAP fuck off degenrate.

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I am leaving this thread the discussions are too retarded for me to even look at for another second you are no better then the ''progressives''

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>>29173504
leave now underage faggot

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>>29173088
what are you talking about, how would you know he doesn't participate in these threads otherwise?

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>>29173592
yeah, post quality just keeps plummeting
>who would win - all of /07th/ or one narcissistic italian

[Beelzebub of Gluttony No.]

Play the Sakuna Rice and Field game. You can harvest rice and eat it.

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>>29174765
Stop hogging up the game and let your sisters play for a bit.

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>>29174765
Where does the shirt end and the leotard begin?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have the source for the manga page on the right?

[Anonymous No.]

Is umineko ep3 longer than the preceding ones? it sure feels like it

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>>29164784
I think it all comes down to no all-cast review/teaparty. TThe only thing you get is a bunch of ADDITIONAL mysterious scenes. Usually that would be the point where everyone comes out and explains the basic questions.

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>>29173088
Italianon fan.
Must be trash

[Anonymous No.]

What is Ryukishi's magnum opus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29177254
Minagoroshi

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>>29173504
You are not welcome here, scum. Go preach somewhere else.

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>>29177254
Ciconia phase 27

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>>29157974
have some standards, anon

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>>29175614
Under the breasts, I would think.

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>>29172934
Yea but I ignored the fact that it was possible, and didn't judge you for that, giving you other possible scenarios besides wanting to touch kids pp but simply willingly or not to murder sadistically those kids and be compromised with black mailing to a cult.

[Anonymous No.]

takano in furude shrine storage

what did she see

[Anonymous No.]

>Be created to bear 5 personalities' worth of negative emotions for the sake of some psycho bitch who was trannyfied against their will
>Self-esteem peaks in hell as a result
>Persist in your miserable existence for 3 years working as a servant for the woman who caused your whole mess in the first place
>Meet cute retarded tomboy gf, things finally seem to be looking up
>The tranny psycho you're a part of decides to kill her and her entire family and also blow up her house
>Die on your birthday because the tranny psycho decided to join the 41%
>Be condemned to suffering for the rest of eternity because one of your personalities misinterpreted quantum mechanics
It's kind of astounding that this guy cried less than several broad-shouldered grown men

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>>29184696
She found the cunny stash.

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>>29172934
Honestly you should be able to understand why people living in our current society would think there'd be something wrong with trying to exploit children or mentally weak individuals for your own sexual or any form of benefit. Perhaps people have been conditioned into believing in egalitarian or religious views in order to naively protect offspring from the cruelty of the world, but this fragile mindset is one of the necessary pillars to maintain a certain order. Even if that order may be serving the interest of the elites trying to push the "own nothing" narrative to enslave people to debt by 2030 but that's beside the point

Yes it would technically be "correct" to violate and humiliate the kid as long as the child doesn't know thanks to you making sure to reduce its exposure to societal norms and values. But at what cost? You'd need to go beyond what Kinzo did with beato 2 by shutting off any sense of normalcy. The result would be a child devoid of any human contact and agency in the long run, or a literal human child msex doll. Technology is already on its way to provide a better service in that department.
I admit that I don't think that being attracted to children's bodies is wrong. But as with any other form of sexual attraction or fetish that I don't understand, expect me to call you a degenerate nigger just like I do with furry and scat connoisseurs because I find 3DPD lolis disgusting.

Sorry for the autism

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>>29184755
You have to keep in mind Shannon, Kanon and Beatrice are characters. They're not separate entities inside Yasu's mind.
Kanon suffered, but not any more than Shannon did.

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>>29184881
Godspeed.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish i had a cute daughter like Rena. I'd spoil her rotten

[Anonymous No.]

I wish i had a cute girlgriend like Ange. I'd dick her throat daily.

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>>29185677
I'd also dick down my daughterwife Rena's throat

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>>29184881
A sane person finnaly.

[Anonymous No.]

do you think rika gained any sort of sexual awareness over the course of hundreds of years living in a delicious loli body?

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>>29184755
I think he never cries in the VN.

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>>29185983
She probably knows what sex is and how babby is born, but likely has no desire for it since her hormones haven't kicked in.

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>>29056557
Finished Umineko's Episode 3 yesterday.
I still have a question on episode 2, though: How did Battler won the debate regarding the first twilight? (The one he argued someone opened the envelope, took they key, then put it back in)

It seemed something easy to with red text

[Anonymous No.]

I want to fall asleep with Kanon-kun in my arms

[Anonymous No.]

child erotic...

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>>29186622

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>>29186622
Nice chin.

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>>29186186
Based ErikantriceChad

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So I finished the Umineko VN yesterday, looking through the solutions to the closed rooms, and regarding EP3's first twilight, was there any hint anywhere that I missed saying that you can close the chapel door without the key? Because if I knew that the solution would be obvious as soon as I learned about shkannon, but otherwise it's bullshit. They keep hammering all throughout the VN that you can only open doors with that room's key or the master key. Then you have Kinzo's room having only 2 keys and an autolock, the garden shed having a different lock type and the chapel only having one key, except there is this little detail of being able to close it from the inside for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Yikes this thread is actually full of pedos.

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>>29188123
Read here the real solution of Umineko erikantrice
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Closed room circle in Shkanontrice is impossble since you cant close the chapel with a master key!!!

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Apparently mega is about to crack down on uploaders who used 15GB+ without paying up and hold all their uploads hostage in the process. Is it safe to assume this one is fucked?

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>>29133940
>>29128744
Ange-sama, I'm unworthy...

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>>29188123
It's implied that there was a rule that all doors can be manually locked from the inside unless otherwise specified.
I think the tool shed was the only exception.

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>>29189260
I pretty much got that with the purple truth game, but that was during EP8, I don't remember such a rule during EP1-4

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>>29189260
>>29189375
RED TRUTH
>Furthermore, all of the doors and windows on the six rooms are normal. No device exists which can lock them without a key, such as an auto-lock.

FAKE THE DOOR CANT BE CLOSED FROM INSIDE WITHOUT A KEY

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>>29189614
Exactly. I don't want to believe:
>>29188321
Although from the little I've read it's at least entertaining. But the solution:
>Kanon was locked in the chapel from outside by Nanjo after this he put the chapel key in the boiler room during the discovery of Kinzo's body.
Is pretty much what I thought other than maybe the second boiler room door not being locked. Then I googled and apparently the manga or some other material said it was locked from the inside.

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>>29189771
All the door are locked but like we saw in Ep1and ep2 accomplices can put envelop inside room with people
>manga
Manga is fake look this red truth of the manga
>There is no means of locking the doors and windows of those six rooms without the keys.
Literrally destroy itself

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>>29188123
>regarding EP3's first twilight, was there any hint anywhere that I missed saying that you can close the chapel door without the key?

The chapel door wasn't locked. Re-read that section in Episode 3 and you'll see that it was never stated that it was a locked room. Battler just assumed it was. The only thing that matters is the red truth.

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>>29191381
>Knox's 8th
It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.
Send proof about Accomplices can fake closed doors in front innocent people

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>>29191381
You're thinking of the first twilight of EP2 where it was indeed the only possible solution. Pic related from
https://ramblingsofthegoldenwitch.tumblr.com/post/154731201052/hello-i-need-help-with-the-first-twilight-of
is what I found from googling the solutions for EP3 since the wiki was not clear enough on this one

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>>29191723
Fake
Muh everyone is the culprit is a solutoon for you?

Nope is just dont think
The real solution is
there is nothing to prevent Kanon from giving more envelopes to Maria.
Giving does not imply that the receiver is aware of the gift,Maria can easily receive things when she is asleep.
So , at noon, Kanon gave an envelop to Maria and when he was done with the murders, Kanon put the key in a new envelop that gave to Maria and took the old one meanwhile she was sleeping.

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>>29191797
>there is nothing to prevent Kanon from giving more envelopes to Maria.
That was exactly what I thought at first (with a generic "culprit" instead of Kanon) when the red texts started narrowing the EP2 chapel "locked" room, that the culprit gave another envelope after the murder and that second giving of the envelope is what Beato was talking about. But then I realized that since Battler doesn't witness the chapel door opening and Genji was there, he probably tricked Rosa by telling her it was really locked when it wasn't, then pretended to unlock it. Later I learned Rosa was a accomplice so even that wasn't needed.

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>>29191935
Rosa is not an accomplice

Remember that the only possible motive is LOVE
so for you Rosa and Gonda had a good reason to help with the murders?

This is fake the real culprits are Kanon and George in all the games
The manga and Shkanontrice are fake
Enjoy EVERYONE IS THE CULPRIT as solution to every tricks since Shkanon cant explain nothing

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>>29184881
you're talking about acting on desires, the anon you're talking to only means that the desires themselves are natural. we're obsessed with pretending that they're deviant and anomalous because the idea that "just because I empirically desire something that doesn't make it normatively desirable" is too spiritual for our dumbed-down materialistic discourse.

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>>29191723
No, I specifically meant the first twilight of EP3. Kanon did not lock the chapel door. It was never stated to be a locked room.

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>>29192121
like we think "good people don't have those desires to begin with!", we try to punish people for "feeling wrong" so they'll "stop being weird", which obviously doesn't work or make much sense.

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>>29192165
And it was never stated that the door was open

RUDOLF AND KYRIE WERE PRESENT DURING THE DISCOVER
YOU CANT FAKE A OPEN DOOR IN FRONT INNOCENT PEOPLE

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>>29192165
I'm going by:
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Alliance_of_the_Golden_Witch/Colored_Text#Third_Game.2C_First_Twilight
>Beatrice: All five master keys were discovered, each in the pocket of one of the servants! The individual keys were found inside envelopes alongside the corpses! In short, all keys related to the linked closed rooms were locked inside the linked closed rooms!! No key could be returned from outside the room using the crack of the door, the crack of the window, vents or any place of the sort!!
Locked inside the linked closed rooms said in red implies the rooms were locked and were closed rooms, although I admit there might be room for lying with this red that I'm not seeing. So the manga solution is the only one that makes sense except like the erikantrice anon said:
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Banquet_of_the_Golden_Witch/Colored_Text
>Beatrice: Furthermore, all of the doors and windows on the six rooms are normal. No device exists which can lock them without a key, such as an auto-lock.

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>>29192462
Actually, now that I think about it a little bit, you could maybe say it doesn't specify which rooms she is talking about, and maybe the chapel isn't part of it, but then they're not "linked" and there is still this problem:
>>29192272

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>>29192462
The Shkanontrice version of the manga made no sense since the door was closed but you cant close the door without a key

The chapel key was in the boiler room
So is impossible
The door must be Open but even this is impossible

The manga solution cant works

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>>29192462
Seems to work out fine to me?
>In short, all keys related to the linked closed rooms were locked inside the linked closed rooms!!
The chapel remained unlocked while every room was being set up. After Shannon's body was found, she snuck into the unlocked chapel, locked it from inside along with the key to the next part of the link, thus fulfilling the red truth. The only questionable part is whether or not the chapel can be locked from inside without use of the chapel key.

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>>29193156
>The only questionable part is whether or not the chapel can be locked from inside without use of the chapel key.
That is the exact thing causing my confusion:
>>29188123
And then it was pointed out:
>>29192462
>No device exists which can lock them without a key
So it's even worse now.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's find things we can all agree on
>Furthermore, all of the doors and windows on the six rooms are normal.
The six rooms refer to the parlor, boiler room, waiting room, VIP room, chapel and guest room
>No device exists which can lock them without a key, such as an auto-lock.
This sentence only pertains the six rooms.
According to the author this doesn't include manually locking it inside like the manga, but we can pretend it does.

So how about:
-The red truth changes from episode to episode, therefore it's possible that in ep3 the chapel door can be opened with a master key
-The windows in the six rooms are normal, all windows in this story have been capable from being opened and locked from the inside, so it's possible that instead of the chapel door, the chapel window was left open

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>>29193455
>-The red truth changes from episode to episode, therefore it's possible that in ep3 the chapel door can be opened with a master key
This would be a really shitty solution.

>-The windows in the six rooms are normal, all windows in this story have been capable from being opened and locked from the inside, so it's possible that instead of the chapel door, the chapel window was left open
Now this makes sense while also making me feel dumb. Still doesn't explain how the manga solution was supposed to make sense but it fits the VN at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>Read umi
>Come up with theory that Kanon is a tulpa
>Get to episode 8
>Random goat says it
Can't believe i'm an umi character bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>29193604
We were the goats all along. We're all umi characters

[Anonymous No.]

>>29189046
They're not about to "crack down" on anything. That only affects fags who stopped paying and are now over their storage limit, and that's always been a thing, literally nothing new. The only way this would even affect free users with just 15GB space is if their temporary bonus storage space expired (you get like 30+ GB for a month if you install the app or something), but even then they give you 30 days to deal with your stuff and get it under 15GB or whatever your storage is. If you don't manage your storage or don't pay for premium, they'll lock your account after a month and then delete it after a few weeks. Only retards who are lazy or abandoned about their account would run into this problem.

That aside, I'm paying for the premium storage. Nothing has changed and nothing's fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29193604
>the delusion of a lonely Jessica
pathetic, lewd

[Anonymous No.]

>>29193793
Hot

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>>29193221
>>29193455
>No device exists which can lock them without a key
I have to think that this is just badly worded. It implies that none of the six rooms can be locked without a key, but it's specified at many other times that the guest rooms, VIP room, and parlor are all able to be locked from inside without needing the key. I can only assume that this red truth only applies to being locked from the outside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29122132
yup

[Anonymous No.]

>>29198975
beato has nothing there for you to anon

[Anonymous No.]

>buying 07th stuff

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[Anonymous No.]

>all these loli lewds ryukishi drew and released
>not 1(one) ryukishi lewd of ange

[Anonymous No.]

>>29177095
If you refering to yourself you are right. Here's another cracker, Polly.

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>>29192639
You could pretend to find the key. So someone could lock Kanon in the chapel and carry the key until its revealation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29205609
please shut up

[Anonymous No.]

>>29186013
Rika is 11, not 7.

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>>29184881
Do you have no reading comprehension? I never talked about fucking anyone in real life.

This anon explained it to you, but it got buried in the middle of Erikanon's garbage. >>29192121
>>29192266

Explain yourself.

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>>29206229
Nope
We in ep1 saw a envelop magically appear in a room with innocents
(Kinzo's studio)
So you can do it but never fake an open room and this make useless Shkanontrice first twiligth in episode 2
Why Rosa called only the accomplices when she opens the chapel If She could fake the closed door even in front innocents

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>>29193455
>The red truth changes from episode to episode, therefore it's possible that in ep3 the chapel door can be opened with a master key
insult to the reader this red truth is about location not about a item
>The windows in the six rooms are normal, all windows in this story have been capable from being opened and locked from the inside, so it's possible that instead of the chapel door, the chapel window was left open
red truth When the door to the chapel is locked, it prevents any and all methods of entry or exit

[Anonymous No.]

>>29193549
>When the door to the chapel is locked, it prevents any and all methods of entry or exit
Red truth Shkanon is cant use the window when the door is close

[Anonymous No.]

>>29196800
Thr only closed from inside that we saw was Natshi room and Kinzo studio

[Anonymous No.]

ciconiabros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>29212915
don't exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>29212915
Oh no Ciconia bros we got too cocky.
No phase 2 until Ryukishi can single handedly defeat corona

[Anonymous No.]

>>29212915
What if...he's waiting for corona to be over so that he can retell it's events in phase 2?? How could I have only realised this now? Next, he'll wait for the real ww3 to end so that he could reveal it's events in phase 3. He's allowing real life to write his novels for him.

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>>29192121
>desires
fuck you umineko anime for making me laugh every time i see that word