Where the FUCK did this plot device come from anyway? No, not the arm, the shroud on it. Who the fuck is Martin and why does his Shroud seal Servant arms.

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Anonymous of the Crimson Moon Fri Jul 3 19:40:03 2009 No.2891254 [Reply] [Original]

Where the FUCK did this plot device come from anyway?

No, not the arm, the shroud on it.

Who the fuck is Martin and why does his Shroud seal Servant arms.

>>	Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Fri Jul 3 19:42:03 2009 No.2891265 Google, you silly namefriend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:43:03 2009 No.2891269 [x] Remove the shroud

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:44:03 2009 No.2891283 Martin was a warrior mouse who founded Redwall, hence the red shroud.

>>	Anonymous of the Crimson Moon Fri Jul 3 19:44:03 2009 No.2891278 >>2891265 "Shroud of Martin" or "Martin's Shroud" don't seem to get anything of merit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:48:03 2009 No.2891297 >>2891283 Fuck, what if he was summoned as Saber.

>>	Anonymous of the Crimson Moon Fri Jul 3 19:49:03 2009 No.2891299 >>2891265 Aha. Google is worthless, however Wikipedia is useful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_of_Tours#The_Legend_of_the_Cloak

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:50:03 2009 No.2891301 >>2891297 Then he'd be a TINY TINY CLEVER SERVANT

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:53:03 2009 No.2891313 >>2891301 I dunno, the books were never very clear about scale. If they were regular sized woodland animals, a) There's no way in fuck an otter could use a sword a mouse could and b) Salamandastron must have been a fucking TINY volcano.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:57:03 2009 No.2891327 >>2891313 If you read the original Redwall and Martin the Warrior, Cats are apparently dragons and snakes are about the same size. Also, why didn't Rin realize sooner that she needed something of the servants it order to summon them?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:57:03 2009 No.2891328
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>>2891299
Interesting. Any particular way to interpret that, or is it a name-only reference? (I can see the "chaplain" connection suppressing the arm's urge to start spitting swords everywhere.)

>>	Deafdefiler !bll4ybGPow Fri Jul 3 19:57:03 2009 No.2891331 >>2891301 Ah, but Servant's are templates filled by a hero's soul. So wouldn't he just be a human with a mouse's tail (for balance issues) and Martin's personality and skills?

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Fri Jul 3 19:58:03 2009 No.2891334

>>2891313
>>2891283

First off, FUCK YEAH REDWALL.

Shit was SO CASH I cried. Mossflower Woods was my Gensokyo decades before I even knew about Story of Eastern Wonderland.

Secondly, imagine this...

A Badger Lord...summoned as a Beserker.

Lady Cregga Rose Eyes would FUCK. SHIT. UP.

Anonymous of the Crimson Moon Fri Jul 3 19:59:03 2009 No.2891338

>>2891328

"During the Middle Ages, the relic of St. Martin’s cloak, (cappa Sancti Martini), conserved at Marmoutiers, one of the most sacred relics of the Frankish kings, would be carried everywhere the king went, even into battle, as a holy relic upon which oaths were sworn."

Maybe it's just a general protection thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:59:03 2009 No.2891339 The sword of Martin's practically a noble phantasm to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:02:03 2009 No.2891342 >>2891334 shut up hotarutard

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:02:03 2009 No.2891343 >>2891327 Snakes are consistently huge, but wildcats at least got reverted to just being big in Mossflower.

>>	Deafdefiler !bll4ybGPow Fri Jul 3 20:05:03 2009 No.2891352 >>2891334 >Cregga Berserker FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:07:03 2009 No.2891361 >>2891334 fuck that give me a hare wot wot

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Fri Jul 3 20:11:03 2009 No.2891375
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>>2891361

STEADY ON THERE OLD CHAP.

>>2891352

Precisely.

In fact, Beserker females is what helped me get into Tsukihime back in the day.

Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:21:03 2009 No.2891406 Goddamn, I grew up reading the redwall series. It's still entertaining to this day

>>	Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Fri Jul 3 20:26:03 2009 No.2891433 I stopped enjoying them around the point that I realized that every single book had precisely the same plot. Maybe around age eleven or twelve.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:33:03 2009 No.2891458 >>2891433 I was trying to think of which one was my favourite but then I realised they were all exactly the same apart from the names of the characters Lord Brocktree is the best

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:38:03 2009 No.2891479

>>2891433
same, plus the fact that Outcast of Redwall made me rage; I like ferrets and it pissed me off so bad that they had to be inherently evil. I read one more book after that and stopped, they were just too formulaic and too black-and-white good-vs-evil

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Fri Jul 3 20:59:03 2009 No.2891584

>>2891479
>>2891458

Brian Jacques's strength is in his descriptiveness and characterization, but when it comes to mixing things up he fails fairly hard.

I realized how formulaic the books were when I was still on my third book from the Redwall series, but I didn't care much.

Deafdefiler !bll4ybGPow Fri Jul 3 21:22:03 2009 No.2891714

>>2891584
I read everything from Redwall to Taggerung, and then for some reason I haven't read any since.

I think it's because my sister was always the one buying them, and I'd just read them off her shelf. Once she went to college, there was nobody around to buy them...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:30:03 2009 No.2891751 I was imaging something like Ocelot with Liquid's arm sorta thing. "NO ARCHEEEERRR!! GET OUT OF MY MIND!!"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:32:03 2009 No.2891766 >>2891751 You're...pretty good

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:32:03 2009 No.2891769 Oh god I forgot about Redwall until now. Nostalgia coming back. Shit I have to read them again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:33:03 2009 No.2891776 Cluny the Scourge was here. All other villains are faggots. I was the only one to successfully infiltrate Redwall, twice, AND overpower Martin's Sword hax. I would have won if it weren't for that fucking bell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:35:03 2009 No.2891791 Best part of the Redwall books were the descriptions of food. He mad that stuff sound so good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:39:03 2009 No.2891807 >>2891791 Oh God, yes. I got hungry every time they had a feast. October Ale sounds delicious as fuck.

>>	Anonymous ‮^_^ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Fri Jul 3 21:40:03 2009 No.2891815 >>2891791 >>2891807 Yeahhhh.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Fri Jul 3 21:43:03 2009 No.2891826 >>2891791 >>2891807 >>2891776 This is why I've said that I would pay one hundred million US Dollars just to get Brian Jacques to write ONE vignette regarding a feast at the Hakurei shrine. His descriptions are fucking Godlike.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:56:03 2009 No.2891899 >>2891327 If only they summoned a certain snake as a Caster. ASMODEEEEEUUUUSSSSSS

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:41:03 2009 No.2892962 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:44:03 2009 No.2892981 Fuck yeah Redwall. Nostalgia rush.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:46:03 2009 No.2892983 proof that /jp/ are all closet furries i am ashamed, /jp/. i thought you were gentlemen

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 01:49:03 2009 No.2892995
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>>2892983
>closet furries
>/jp/

This boy's slow. How did you completely overlook all the Anons who want to yiff Ran in her tight little pink butthole?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:49:03 2009 No.2892994 >>2892983 Fuck you, everyone read those books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:51:03 2009 No.2893001 Japan murder legends. seriously guys. Stop trying to make any semblance of connections to the mythos and just think of it as type moon bastardry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:53:03 2009 No.2893009 >>2892995 Whenever I see fanart of Ran I count to make sure she has the proper number of tails. This one fails.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:55:03 2009 No.2893019 >>2893009 That's supposed to be a crossover with Houshin Engi's 妲己.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:09:03 2009 No.2893071 I reread Redwall a while back and had to fight back the feeling that something was not right. Redwall's writing, not so good.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 02:18:03 2009 No.2893106 >>2893071 The unilaterally evil nature of the vermin and some of the character tropes are majorly played out, I agree. But I still like it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:19:03 2009 No.2893113

>>2893071
He was writing for kids. The guy has no real writing talent he just makes up half of the story and lets the rest froth in your head.

literally, theres only a few points in all of his books where anything of note occurs that changes a character's motives. That is what is GREAT about the stories, they don't bother trying to make some great point about something it just adventure and characters having a good time with each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:19:03 2009 No.2893114 I never read Redwall because I don't really like books about talking animals. I remember watching the cartoon, though.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 02:24:03 2009 No.2893127 >>2893113 >That is what is GREAT about the stories, they don't bother trying to make some great point about something it just adventure and characters having a good time with each other. The same can be said for Touhou, really.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:25:03 2009 No.2893128 I fucking loved the Redwall books as a kid. It's a miracle that I didn't end up as a furfag. >>2891791 Oh shit I forgot about that. So true.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:29:03 2009 No.2893140

>>2893127
Thats a pretty good observation. I'm usually an /a/sshole so I didn't make that connection as readily as one of you homegrown types.

However, the newer books suck ass. Like, I can barely read them. Any of the older ones are just as good as the first time every time though.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 02:36:03 2009 No.2893154

>>2893128

>I fucking loved the Redwall books as a kid. It's a miracle that I didn't end up as a furfag.

Furfags have a rampant sexual attraction to animals. Redwall works even if the characters are just human, they're only animals so that everyone can get into it without feeling left out due to race or whatever.

The animals in question behave more human than anything else, unlike furries and their 'yiffing'.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:39:03 2009 No.2893169 >>2891791 I remember finding a few sites that listed made up recipes to match the food described. My mom helped me make some of them, I love her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:32:03 2009 No.2893368 This is quite possibly the most amazing derail I have ever seen on /jp/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:36:03 2009 No.2893394 >>2893368 Actually, there were a couple other threads, but.... Yeah, this is up there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:39:03 2009 No.2893408 >>2891301 I admit I lol'd.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:45:03 2009 No.2893443 So we can all agree that Jacques' writing is perfect when somebody feels like reading a fuckawesome story about good triumphing evil, yes?

>>	Ambrose Spike Sat Jul 4 03:45:03 2009 No.2893440 >>2893169 burr oi' but can shee brew sum ove oi' October Ale?

>>	Rages for stupid reasons Sat Jul 4 03:46:03 2009 No.2893454 >>2893440 FUCK YOU. EVERY TIME YOU SPOKE IN THE BOOK I SKIPPED YOUR LINES.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 03:47:03 2009 No.2893460

>>2893443

And heartwarming rustic woodland countryside scenes, and food descriptions, not to mention good, three-dimensional characters.

His Redwall books are NOT good if you want complex, layered character interactions with antiheroic or Byronic heroes, altruistic villains, politics, intrigue, subterfuge, or such.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 03:48:03 2009 No.2893464 >>2893440 >>2893454 EEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUULALIAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:49:03 2009 No.2893471 >>2893454 I skipped every time they started fucking singing one of their songs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:50:03 2009 No.2893476 Goddamnit /jp/, as I child I read Redwall and absolutely loved it. But no one else I knew had read it (back when I had friends). I love you guys for sharing my taste.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:50:03 2009 No.2893482 Small moments like this make it worthy browsing 4chan.

>>	Ushiromiya !IBaTTlErlE Sat Jul 4 03:52:03 2009 No.2893486 The only books I really remember liking were The Legend of Luke and... anything that had a strong showing from the Hares. That must be why I like the Siesta sisters.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 03:53:03 2009 No.2893491 logalogalogalogalogalogalooooooooooog

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:54:03 2009 No.2893493 >>2893476 Yup, now when we leave this thread for other topics, just remember who you're talking with. It gives you a kind of satisfied feeling. At least, for me it does, hopefully it'll be the same for anyone else here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:56:03 2009 No.2893505 ITT books we read as kids. A Series of Unfortunate Events, anybody?

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Jul 4 04:02:03 2009 No.2893542 >>2893505 OH SHIT I NOSTALGIA'D. The only thing annoying about the books was the constant explanation of the words used. I knew all that shit already, so it was tiresome. Also, the movie was amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:40:03 2009 No.2895008 >>2893486 THE LONG PATROL FUCK YEAARRR

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>>	Anonymous of the Crimson Moon Sat Jul 4 10:48:03 2009 No.2895047 File: 402 KB, 1024x768, 1232679294311.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2895026 Or shit just starts FLAPPING IN THE FURIOUS ACTION WIND.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:55:03 2009 No.2895077 Let's see... Saber: Martin, most champions Berserker: Badger Lords, obviously. Lancer: Hares Archer: Squirrels Assassin: Foxes Rider: Otters Caster: No real magic, but most "soothsayer" characters, I guess?

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