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Previous thread >>27753157

A general for the philosophical and cultivated discussion of 07th works written by Ryū senshi Sebun, including Higurashi no Naku koro Ni, Umineko no Naku koro Ni and Renai Harem Game Shuuryou no Oshirase ga Kuru Koro ni.

(almost) complete 07th expansion archive: https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

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In before the Italian trash

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claim your golden land invitation:

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Take a niipaa~ from me, you're safe here!

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which Higurashi is the most personally relatable for you? for me it's Shion.

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For me it's Teppei.

>> No.27904355

For italianon it's surely Takano.

>> No.27904578

For me it's The Reader.

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>> No.27904709

Takano. Ans she is my fav character in all fiction

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Today, I will remind them. Without love, it cannot be seen.

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pls consider adding my 07th chart to the archive, mega-anon

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>> No.27908395
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a thread before the last one died fucking
put this because last thread no one repleid

the knock and the letter so i will try to solve it now
if you want discuss with me thanks

my goal is find another solution for this trick instead of Everyone lied that i find strange since the great number of red truths + Lambda made this trick:
so make the situation clear
these events take place in 2 different times and 3 different locations that we call:
Before conferance-BC and 24 p.m for times
outside, dining all and 2nd floor for the locations
Erika as Kanon can join the dining hall meanwhile Erika personality is outside into the detective's thougth dimension.
this satysfay the red truths about characters locations
the difficult part is the knock

a simple solution is :
Kanon knocked from inside(red truth 'To knock' means someone hitting a door with their hand, this red does not specify which side),he was the closest to the door, so it wouldn't seem strange if the others, once they turned around, had already found him turned, then he pretended to find the letter he had hidden on himself.

for the letter this theory have no problems but this red truth deny this theory on the knock part:
>Let it be known that in addition to Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji, none of those in the dining hall knocked on that door. In this sense, 'knock' includes all direct, indirect, intentional, unintentional, and coincidental events that could create a knocking sound.

Kanon was inside too into the dining hall so my theory is destroyed but another red truth contradicts the previous one
>And none of them misinterpreted a knocking sound. Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji were not involved with the making of the knocking sound. No one else existed inside the mansion. And that knock refers to the action of standing directly in front of a door and hitting it with a hand.
>Natsuhi, and Genji were not involved with the making of the knocking sound
meanwhile in the first red truth no one in the mansion could knock at that door now only people at 2nd floor cant do it
so people at dining all are able to making of the knocking sound and this red truth give us another hint
>knock refers to the action of standing directly in front of a door and hitting it with a hand
>a door

so thanks with all these i can formulate another theory
Kanon Knocked at another door inside the dining all and the construction of the room allows an acoustics that confuse the source of sounds so people thought the knock came from the door on the corridor, then he pretended to find the letter he had hidden on himself.

Simple becsause 2 red truth contradict each others, this level of reasoning is possible for italian anon
What do you think, everyone?"

>> No.27908467

we were warned
why didn't we listen?

>> No.27908703

Reading through episode 3 at the moment but it's Mion for now--apparent murders committed by her notwithstanding

>> No.27908813

on a purely conceptual level, a brain parasite apocalypse is way better than the usual zombie nonsense. the "monsters" are technically alive but have been driven insane/taken over, the loss of their humanity is gradual and easy to miss until it's too late, and even fully converted alien parasite mind-slaves can still act like humans to deceive their prey and form complex plans.

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today i will remind you
>>[RED] It's possible to show a different truth by using a different interpretation!!
>When multiple truths exist in parallel, the authenticity of both is questioned!!

Erikantrice explain the first 4 games without violating any red truth
So exist another truth and we can doubt about shkanontrice

>> No.27910114

Except Ryukishi07 is the judge. He has already declared the winning truth, just like Lambdadelta in episode 5.

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even lambda was the judge
and her approve Natsuhi theory as truth before Battler propose his theory

i am Battler during ep5 who finally understand the truth and return to figth

>> No.27910286

Ryukishi is the judge, and he has deemed your truth false. Natsumi Kei is the only person who knows as much about the inside of the cat box as Ryukishi07.

>> No.27910360

This is even worse than usual.
When the trash cries

>> No.27910422

Good chart

>> No.27910447

he doesnt know that i am resurrected and ready to figth

when he reach my theory the final process will be opened

>> No.27910621

this is worst than usual
when the not an argument cries

>> No.27910690

ah, here they go again. and I was hoping they'd contain their autism to the other thread while it was still up at least
ah well, get your scorpion charms everyone. what you can't see won't annoy you.

>> No.27910711

Italianon, this is almost a proper English sentence. A few more years of this and you’ll be almost coherent. I am almost impressed

>> No.27910764

thanks anon
expirience gave me knowledge

>> No.27910805

There is no theory to be reached because Ryukishi doesn't accept your script. You're already btfo'd like lambda against Featherine.

>> No.27910817

thanks for reminding me, actually meant to when you posted it last

>> No.27910889

when R07 refuse my theory?

>> No.27910925

Yes, when Ryukishi07 rejects your script, just like Featherine did.

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Anons, after making several changes to the iceberg, I have finally returned. I have added two more layers and all the theories from the previous thread. Because of this, a lot of reorganizing and rewording had to be done.
Regardless, I'm really happy with how this is turning out. It has a solid mix of theories, facts, and shitposts. I want to maintain this balance because I, personally, believe that it makes the iceberg both fun and intriguing.
The categories I'm using to organize this iceberg are legitimacy and obscurity. Theories that sound more like shitposts, have little/contradicting evidence, and are not well known, will end up lower than ideas that are widely supported by evidence and believable.
Of course, I am by no means an expert on all of these ideas. If you feel like something should be placed elsewhere or removed entirely, please let me know. I only ask for some level of reasoning as to why.
Otherwise, keep it coming anons. I can make plenty more room in this iceberg for whatever you have to offer. Some more stuff for the upper layers would be nice though.

Archive of the original iceberg thread: https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S27075014#p27075014

v1 of iceberg posted in >>27658195

>> No.27911076

really much better than last one
to be perfect fix the red lines that divide the images + fit more things into the highest leves that seem too empy

the rest is perfect

>> No.27911152

send proofs

>> No.27911295

sent ;)

>> No.27911380

can you explain to me what you mean?
i don't really understand so much of this confusing situation

>> No.27911455

it's pretty good, I second the suggestions the other anon made. I think we should be able to come up with some more tip-of-the-iceberg theories. maybe "detective vp is objective", "hinamizawa syndrome is an allegory for depression", "hanyuu is irrelevant and a dumb ghost"

>> No.27911517

spelling is "hotarubi"

>> No.27911827

I'm finally reading Kamikanshi and the Rika solo sections are actually pretty great.

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Everyone is so much more attractive when they're not Ryukishi mistakes, soulless PS3 dumpy plastic people or pachinko anatomical abominations

>> No.27912924

but manga-fags didnt belive that yasu was a male?

>> No.27912964
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Maria onee-chan!

>> No.27912986

>when you're fucking 21-year-old maria and she starts uu-ing

>> No.27913133

grown-up maria finna be kinda cute...

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I've got a feeling this won't end well...

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Does Ange really?

>> No.27913894

I don't know if you're shitposting or talking seriously but either way this is Featherine not Ikuko

>> No.27913923

nope Featherine is the union of bullshit said about her

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I rate it 8/10, even with the clunky machine translation.

>> No.27914164

Supremely surprised the western fandom hasn't cancelled Ryukishi

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absolute madman

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Is that one in the top left really his original design
How do you degrade that badly

>> No.27917161

The real moral of Umineko was don't get involved with Italians.

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sweet jesus

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I wonder what kind of reward my mom will get after she wins the popularity poll, I hope it's a figure

>> No.27919045

No correction necessary, just look at these threads.

>> No.27919089

Where is the Covid 19 God girl?

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Tamura is based, fuck those chink immigrants, City 23 is ours you- oh wait wrong pink haired girl.

Reminder that there was a Hou trailer at the end of RGD, implying it's basically the progression of its message

>> No.27919865

Are you ready for shiny haired :3 mouthed AuAu in Gou?

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I will tolerate it if she has sufficient mommy energy

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I love Ange

>> No.27926410

For me, it's keiichi

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Seems like a nice point to wrap up the whole story. Not sure if i should keep progressing till the end as i'm plenty content with what i've red so far, what else could be said by the game from hereafter?

>> No.27927446

But of course i will look into the 4th ep if only for completion sake, just sometime later. For now i wish to tackle on some other piece of media, preferably in the similar vein to 07th expansion

>> No.27927672

Try out Danganronpa.
Crazy kids killing each other for an unknown reason. If you like Higurashi you're sure to love it.

>> No.27929362

>Confession was "found" by Ikuko.
>"Has" Eva's diary.
>Tohya is like chic-Beatrice and is influceable.
>Ikuko has the monopoly on truth.
Yeah I clearly see it. That's how Umineko works.

>> No.27929714

Yes, what's your point? Ryukishi clearly didn't have Tohya planned out from the beginning which is why it feels contrived.

>> No.27929869

>a witch tell to me that magic exist so magic exist
your arguments

>> No.27930435

What the hell is is about Umineko that makes so many people think that R07 is some 900 IQ mastermind genius writer who would flat out lie to the reader just for some epic puzzle?

>> No.27930607

Because umineko is an opera for 160+ iq people so the author must have 900 of iq

The real reason is umineko teach values like never accept something without proofs just because everyone else belive in it.
Usually authors respect what they write

>> No.27931291

Ange is a slut

>> No.27932145

You either see a witch that tells about the past or a witch that can change the past. How the events happened - Ange decided to make up things to give herself hope and a seemingly happier future. That's why we didn't learn from Ange about the full blood relation-ship between Battler and her and that the Rudulph culprit theory was pulic during her time at St. Lucia. In the manga she confessed it was already public (it doesn't make sense for an in-universe reader)
The same could be said about Yasu. Because it wouldn't change the past and would make someone else suffer she decided to write her confession and never show it to anyone, kill her past self and live along with your youth love who doesn't know who she is :). No wonder they didn't want a marriage. Ikuko couldn't fulfill marital obligations!

>> No.27933102

Maybe if the the mysteries were actually good, the characters weren't one-dimensional, the dialogue wasn't cringeworthy, and the trial mechanics weren't suicide-inducing.

>> No.27934554

So what was the point of Ikuko?

>> No.27935858

I unironically believe she's Yasu.
You can of course disagree with my opinion.

>> No.27936244

I disagree

>> No.27936774

>"How do do you get the money for such cute dresses, onee-chan?"
>"Autism bux"

>> No.27936790

Ikuko wrote with Toyha to remember is the same as Beatrice played the games with Battler to remember.

>> No.27936830

>these lewd outfits were bait to troll us with Hanyuutaro

>> No.27936879

Why do people accuse Ryuukishi of being a bad artist? It's literally an intentional art style and he's pretty good at it.

>> No.27936995

Would adult Maria do porn and expose her hairy pussy to the world?

>> No.27937039

Maria was a bad influence. Because of her, a perfectly functional loli became a literal tulpamancer with no friends at 18. Ange is pathetic! She could've been a normie, but she got into this shit and became a weirdo!

>> No.27937109

nah. she might write/draw really fucked up smut or do audio productions though, considering her childhood trauma.
Maria の doujin empire

>> No.27937123

Umineko is just the magic version of this events

>> No.27937148

pathetic samefag.

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>> No.27938258

Choking on a spoon is the most terrifying death Ryu has ever come up with.

>> No.27939802

Keiichi specifically chose little girls as his targets because seeing them squeal and cry out with high pitched voices was cute and lewd.

This was foreshadowed in arc 3 when he immediately understood that Kameda-kun loves dessert because he has a fetish for destroying something beautiful and cute. Cakes = young girls.

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>> No.27939945

Same poster trash

>> No.27939967

>cakes = young girls
Get over yourself, Takano.

>> No.27940279

Why did the anime leave out the part where the Angel Mort otakus are spirited away by Rika, never to be seen again?

Or the part where Ooishi forces the punks to drink alcohol so he can arrest them for drunk driving in Arc 2? That was evil as fuck.

>> No.27940400

Does the PC version of Higurashi Daybreak only work on XP? Has anyone tried it on newer systems?

>> No.27940471

Worked for me on 10, but there is some stutter in the loading screens and opening.

>> No.27940540

to learn who rules over you, ask who you aren't allowed to criticize. in nippon that still seems to be some variant of conservativism.

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The music makes this a hundred times more hilarious.

>> No.27940707

Did you play it directly on Windows 10? I heard there is an XP compatibility mode. Shouldn't that mode make it play without any issues?

>> No.27940938

this is pretty good too

>> No.27940952

Are there any downsides to the PSP Mega Edition version? It has a lot more content, remixes and characters, but I have no idea if the engine is the same or if the PSP emulator causes any issues. Is it straight up superior or does it have downsides?

Anyway, Daybreak is a fucking treasure. It's the ultimate fanservice game.

>> No.27941069

A-Are you telling me that old ass VNs can have problems too? What the fuck. Will the original release of Higurashi be unplayable eventually or is there a workaround that lasts for all eternity, such as a Windows XP emulator or something similar to the PC98 emulators? I don't want to depend on Windows choosing or not choosing to put official XP modes in their new versions.

>> No.27941098

That's literally George's blushing face.

>> No.27941572

>amazing music remixes and original tracks
>chibi graphics that look close to the original sprites
>adorable cutscenes in story mode
>different routes depending on the character pairing you choose
>can play as literally any character, including Akane and Natsumi
>each character has several outfits and weapons with different playstyles and two energy modes
>Hinamizawa Syndrome as a mechanic
>lots of open 3D maps including random parts of the mountains
>can recreate the watergun battle at the school and hide in the same places Keiichi did to fool the AI
>jump stamina can be converted into gliding stamina to let you fly like a gauntlet knight
>feels like a fun party fighter rather than a dry fighting game
>early Bernkastel mode for Rika
>demon Hanyuu with the sword
I like it better than Golden Fantasia. Both are great, but I like how complete this feels and I enjoy the gameplay and controls a lot.

>> No.27941815

Are you talking about Higurashi or Danganronpa?

>> No.27941884

Swimsuit Mion with Super Soaker and Towel Satoko with the setting traps is my favorite pair. I also enjoy the constant pantyshots on every girl.

>> No.27941885

I love Higurashi's trial mechanics

>> No.27942286

>tfw no mod for birthday suit Satoko

>> No.27942389


Can someone tell me how to use the penalty costumes outside netplay mode in PSP Daybreak? There must be a way, right? They wouldn't program literal mad costumes into the game and restrict them to some dumb online mechanic.

>> No.27942489

I'm not sure if they changed this detail in the other versions (didn't play them), but towel Satoko is actually going commando in the original.

>> No.27942587


If this is accurate, there are indeed some downsides.

>> No.27942719

Maybe some of the gameplay downgrades were fixed for the Mega version? That's the one that includes Satoshi and Miyoko, making this one outdated.

>> No.27943485

>tfw just finished chapter 6 and read the post-game tip
I don't know what the fuck is going on still lmao

>> No.27943522

>chapter 6 post-game tip
what would that be?

>> No.27943586

the one where asaka returns to hinamizawa 20 years after the disaster. Ooishi was supposed to show up but doesn't for some reason. they go to the swamp and find it flooded with concrete and they reevaluate the writings of Miyo Takano and call her writings the "devils script"

>> No.27943649

Yes. I'm not really an expert of this kind of stuff, but compatibility mode didn't seem to make much of a difference.

>> No.27946853

I felt the same way.
That is, truly heartbroken.

>> No.27947990

Dunno why the post was called trash. It's a true statement. Otherwise, what's the point of forgeries and games? I believe some people went paranoid and see Italianon posts everywhere.

>> No.27948384

Brainlets gonna brainlet.

>> No.27948551
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>Adult Rena wrote Ciconia
>Ryukishiverse magic circuits system
>Hanyuu is the real target victim of Higurashi (reincarnated Hanyuu in Rika)
>Satoko is Lambdadelta piece (this one if from my theory that Witches have many pieces we might not know)
>Cicada 3301 is related to Higurashi
>Lambdadelta Ladder = Despair Code
>Hinamizawa Syndrome decalcifies pineal gland

>> No.27948754

>towel Satoko going commando
>school swimsuit Rena showing half of her butt cheeks
Lewd! This game is lewd!

>> No.27948796

>Spiritium is adrenochrome

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This 100% I forgot to mention spiritium.

>> No.27949250

Is Ryukishi going to pull the rug out from under Rika's happy ending?

>> No.27949421

I hope so

>> No.27949504

I hate you, but I hate that Ryukishi is smiling at posts like yours and laughs derisively at fools like me even more...

>> No.27950243


>> No.27950331

George is ryukishi's self insert from the human side

>> No.27951038

How does Gun Mion's special work? She just defends in place. Is it like George's special? I can't seem to get it to do anything.

>> No.27951302

>BTG drinks Midori's sweat to survive (it contains the adrenochrome if she's suffering)
>youkai survive by eating the souls of troubled children and it tastes better the more miserable they are
>voyager witches are like archons, existing in a higher dimension, giving bad people power so they can cause a lot of suffering and they feed on it
>spiritium is found in places where a lot of people died
>Naima abuse theory

>> No.27951346

He doesn't drink loli sweat, he drinks the pheromones directly from the sweat that evaporates from her body. Remember the classroom scene.

>> No.27951618

I noticed this too. Mion has perfectly modeled butt cheeks. You can see it with her casual outfit.

>> No.27952372

>Nonsensical comment
Well, I will happily die before I know what you meant.

>> No.27952435

Are you Italianon?

>> No.27952731

It’s not a true statement
There’s good reason to assume that Ikuko and Yasu are totally different characters and you really have to work hard to argue otherwise.
Also the post read a lot like Italianon grammar

>> No.27953111

Towel Satoko is wearing a super lewd fundoshi in the PSP version. I'd say that'd an improvement over skin colored pixels. She actually has a modeled butt this time, only with a fundoshi between her cheeks.

>> No.27953158

Just finished chapter 8. Shit was good. Now I'm wondering if I should bother with the extra arcs. If they flesh out the world/characters I'm for it, if it's all just fan-service I don't want to bother. Anyone know which ones I should play? Also I heard the new anime series is a continuation of where the VN left off?

>> No.27953491
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Play Saikoroshi for a decent epilogue and Outbreak/Kamikashimashi for wacky syndrome shit with aliens

>> No.27954099

Saikoroshi from Higurashi Rei. It's a must read. The game and translation patch should be in the mega.

>> No.27954318

So is Rika 100% confirmed to be Bernkastel? Like after she exits the "maze" of the universe where she is Rika Furude she goes to the Umineko universe and becomes Bernkastel?

>> No.27954610

Probably. I doubt R07 thought too deeply about it himself. Higurashi is at times a videogame, a novel, and an actual fragment within Umineko at the same time.

>> No.27954719

To complete the mega, I find the stage play of Last Season of RGD : https://mega.nz/file/QctgBCaD#dMYCkrOEvVmQE1h8xPtbCtYm7FWTP2SYciKaY0ptPdQ
Season 3's stage play still have no seed on nyaa.

>> No.27954757

And sometimes, the Sonozakis scam Krauss into buying land on the moon. Who knows whether Ryuk even thought about the connection.

>> No.27954765

I found*

>> No.27954896

No no those were the Sonozekis, completely different

>> No.27955080

Technically Rika's human side keeps going on with her life (like we see in Gou) while Bernkastel goes around weaving her fanfic fragments (like we see in Matsuri's second ending), I guess at some point she gets bored of that, leaves the Hinamizawa territory and goes fuck around with other witches' territories

>> No.27955375

>So is Rika 100% confirmed to be Bernkastel? Like after she exits the "maze" of the universe where she is Rika Furude she goes to the Umineko universe and becomes Bernkastel?
No, Bernkastel is her own characters. I think Matsuribayashi and Saikoroshi make that pretty damn clear. She just came from Rika, but Rika and Bernkastel are separate since the beginning of Higurashi.

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>> No.27955779

why does Shion tell Keiishi that the moment she decided to become a demon was when he gave Rena the doll? Why did she give a fuck? In the game it's treated like no big deal in the 5th arc and that obviously Mion was hurt over it but it barely impacted Shion... the only two explanations I can think of is Ryukishi was being a dumbass and was writing the arcs as he went along, OR that Shion and Mion are actually the same person and Shion/Mion suffers from a split-personality disorder

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>> No.27955971

she's pretending to be mion, remember? it's part of her improvized sob story, same as the history of hinamizawa and how much the position of family successor weighed on her.

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>> No.27956055

1-5 I start Umineko
6-9 I start Ciconia
0 I do the extra arcs for Higurashi

>> No.27956107

sacred prostitution seems more spiritually healthy than secular prostitution desu. just get your local priestess to jerk you off to deal with your carnal desires in a non-sinful way.

>> No.27956140

1-5 I stop my manifesto
6-9 I inform about real truth of umineko

>> No.27956178

>the zero on the roulette
almost poetic.

>> No.27956185

we are one step closer to collecting them all

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>> No.27956271

Based Erikantrice hacked the destiny
Real truth confirmed

>> No.27956330

Alright looks like I'm playing Umineko. So I see it classified under visual novels rather than light novels. So are there choices?

>> No.27956388

no. you really should read saikoroshi at least. it's just 4 hours anyway.

>> No.27956559

Man this is surprisingly good

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>> No.27956737

Is it bad that I actually discovered umineko through the rosatrice guy's videos

>> No.27956904

Anyone else thought Tsuimihoroboshi was overrated? Everyone acts like it's the greatest chapter ever, for me it was one of my least favorite. Seemed devoid of horror elements I love. The entire hostage situation at the end was wayyyyyyyy too long as well, it felt like the sword/bat fight dragged on particularly long

>> No.27957003

it's the renafag chapter, of course they love it above all else

>> No.27957199

You are a retard.

>> No.27957729

I started off a Renafag but gravitated to Mion/Rika

>> No.27957770

I'm proud to say that I've always been a Mionfag, but Rika has been progressively getting higher on the list. I need more Saikoroshi Rika.

>> No.27958338

Did you even read/watch the fifth arc? Its explained there as clear as day.

>> No.27958377

>Seemed devoid of horror elements I love
What the fuck? Did you even actually read it?

>> No.27958607

This was a comparison. You made that assumption about Ikuko=Beatrice. They try to make Battler to remember something. That's they have in common and it's true.

>> No.27958652

God the OSTs that play during the final fights are so much better in the stage play

>> No.27960166

I think people tend to overrate it because the way it gives the reveals for Onikakushi while the arc itself is an inversion of it is pretty kino

>> No.27960431

Was it really necessary to specify BLACK TEA all the time

>> No.27960491

do the nips even have a word for "just tea"? I think the language naturally specifies which type.

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>> No.27960677

>start out by selling your doujin powerpoint presentation on the street
>15 years later you get stage play adaptations like this
definition of making it. did ryuks write the script himself?

>> No.27960830

When does Ikuko do this?

>> No.27961403

Hit me with some clever locked room murder solutions

>> No.27961439

define locked, room and murder

>> No.27961617

>"Ryuukishi sensei, we need to cover Satoko up for Sony because the texture under the towel looks like cunny"
>"F U N D O S H I"
Based. They chose the most pathetic underwear in existence.

>> No.27961638

Room is locked but has no ceiling haha

>> No.27961709

Higurashi started out as a play script called Hinamizawa Bus Stop. It was rejected and that's when Ryu decided to make Higurashi. His whole doujin novel career has been a revenge against the play industry until RGD finally became a play.

>> No.27961715

Is this an autism test? I won't respond to this question.

>> No.27961773

You just did, retard.

>> No.27961786

Ep6 logic error
Erika Become Kanon
Save Battler then return Erika

Ep5 hideyoshi room
George hide under the bed
Hideyoshi enter
Erika enter,close the room and hideyoshi turn back
George come out and kill hideyoshi from his back
George return under the bed and erika exit from the window
After the discover of the body ,erika made everyone go away without inspect the room
George came out after everyone left

>> No.27961880

Wish we got to see more of the Meakashi world. I have a feeling that Shion's rampage would become an even more infamous incident that the disaster itself. They would talk about her on murderpedia 40 years after the fact. Also, the old torture chamber would be raided by the police and the Sonozakis would have to leave the village in shame because of what Shion did.

>> No.27961906

This guy has autism

>> No.27961925

Man, Hempel's Raven is such a long winded way of saying if there is no extra person the culprit is among the others

>> No.27962087

gun in wardrobe go book

>> No.27962163

Thank you anon. These ones will fit quite well in the higher levels.
Good ideas anon. Curious as to what you mean by Lamdadelta Ladder = Despair Code though.
Also, the decalcification idea for Hinamizawa Syndrome is really interesting. Although, it seems that it would benefit the characters more than detriment them. Wouldn't it make more sense for it to calcify the gland? What do you think anon?
This one could unironically be true to a certain extent if you think about it. If a lot of people died, there's bound to be a lot of suffering.
Thank you anon. These will really help fill up the upper and middle layers.

>> No.27962171

Higurashi also had a stage play, recently, that adapts Watanagashi and Meakashi.
But IMO, Hinamizawa Bus Stop was quite bad.

>> No.27962288

Why do people always specify "stage play" as if that isn't what most people think of when they hear the word play
Like, who the hell hears the word play and automatically assumes it's a radio play or something

>> No.27962541

They get decalcified pineal gland and gain access to it without any training so they get insane from constant influence of the gland.
Lambdadelta Ladder its when she explains how she stopped going down the abyss I think its the image that the picture has for the deepest level.

>> No.27962781

in my case, stage play adaptation just has a better sound than play adaptation

>> No.27963235

Why do you still annoy me? Is that your childish revenge after you had shown how bad your knowledge about Umineko is?

>> No.27963472

Lamdadelta ladder makes a lot more sense now. I think I remember a part of the VN and manga where she talks about something along those lines. I'll have to go back and check.
I'm still struggling to find evidence for the pineal gland though. It seems that an uncalcified pineal gland means you are healthy. The worst that could happen is that the parasite could cause an increase in melatonin, resulting in sleep deprivation and anxiety. Though that doesn't explain the loss of sanity and severe hallucinations. On the other hand, calcification can result in "Some researchers believe that pineal calcification was associated with certain endocrine diseases such as schizophrenia, and mammary carcinoma [69,70,71,72,73,74,75]".
Also, "Decades ago several studies pointed out the relationship between the pineal calcification and schizophrenia [73,166,167,168]"
I know I'm being an autistic retard, but simply switching it from decalcification to calcification makes it a lot more legitimate in my opinion.

>> No.27964362

Just make the pineal thing look crazy its what the iceberg is for.

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Zion, la hermana de shion y mion

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subarashi chart-anon

>> No.27964885

Not the same anon here but there are myths about how decalcifying your pineal gland makes you more attuned to the supernatural. It could explain things like everyone being able to see Hanyuu in Matsuribayashi, and hear her in the other chapters.

>> No.27964941

are outbreak/kamikashimashi supposed continuations (even if not canon) of masturibayashi/saikoroshi or a different fragment altogether?

>> No.27964993

Pretty sure Takano and Satoko both being Lambdas pieces is canon. There are heavy parallels drawn between them visually, with the phone calls, them being friends, clawing their way up from being a weak girl through absolute certainty and so forth. Higurashi was a game that was made to be impossible because both of Lambdas pieces could not reach a win condition at the same time.

>> No.27965020

Oh, well I kinda wish the other anon had just said that in the first place. That makes a lot more sense.
I'm just gonna shove it somewhere in the middle or bottom. Currently updating it right now.

>> No.27965160

I really doubt the game is supposed to not be winnable for Lambda, and also Satoko as a character would hardly have an actual win condition, other than something vague. I do believe both are probably Lambda's pieces but since Takano has the more explicit connections and is the one who actively antagonizes Rika, I'd say she's the main piece.

>> No.27965316

It definitively was not won by either side for a while to the point that they gave up. Given the incompetence of Rika and all the good guys either Lamnbda could have easily won and just liked watching her suffer or there were some really difficult challenges for her built into the game. Not dying or succumbing to Hinamizawa Syndrome seems like a good enough win condition for Satoko.

>> No.27965389

For anons who own the physical of Umineko (EP1 to 4 and Chiru), do the DVD case only include the disk or there is also a little booklet?

>> No.27965469

I think it's supposed to be one of the fragment fanfics Bern says she'll make at the end of Matsuri, none of the usual June 1983 rules apply and I think Rika is aware Takano's evil in these arcs? I may be mistaken on that last bit

>> No.27965671

The entire Hojo family represents an almost invincible fate that was only beaten by the power of trying really hard to win.
Remember in Tatari when Tatari when K1 goes bonkers? His certain will, which from his point of view caused hundreds of people to die, happened at the same time he started talking to "Satoshi", I doubt that's a coincidence. The death of the reporter in 2003 could very well be Lambda awarding Keiichi's certain will by making his very last prediction happen with certainty.

>> No.27965682

It's so bad that this one guy ruins our entire reputation...

>> No.27966892

my wife Tits and her mions

>> No.27967902

This does explain why HS makes you perceive supernatural shit. But Hanyuu is also the parasites.

>> No.27969588
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Updated the iceberg. Feel free to keep giving me suggestions. Although, I feel like we are nearing the end. I know there are a few more Ciconia theories we could add, but my mind is hazy at best. I do plan to update this over time though, since Iwahime, Ciconia, and Gou will give us more information to work with.

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To activate GBA higurashi what is the '.' button supposed to represent? In the 07th mega this is what it says to do to unlock it.

>> No.27969729

>AOU futInarification
Is this a typo?

>> No.27970259

Great job anon
Now i think is perfect

>> No.27970555

>Kyrie laced Angie's food with laxatives so she could stay home and escape the massacre

Also "magic doesn't exist" should be at the top.

>> No.27970710

Wait, why would Jessica have a strong motive?

>> No.27970768

Gohda raped her

>> No.27970774

Where is black battler on this chart anyways? Seems like the most obvious thing missing.

>> No.27970840

Ange is responsible for her own misery. If only she didn't have an arse, none of it would've happened.

>> No.27971095

Is there some sheet or video or something similar that explains all the Umineko fan theories people created over time in detail? I've only seen the Rosatrice video.

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Read erikantrice manifesto
the real truth of umineko


>> No.27971204

>Hanyuu is Featherine's piece

This one may actually get confirmed in Higurashi Gou.

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Erika is pregnant!

>> No.27971609

i dont get this "fetish"

>> No.27971865

Primal procreation instinct.

>> No.27972025

I'll make sure to add these. Kinda surprised by how full the top is getting now.
Anon posted their theory in the iceberg thread I linked the archive to in my original post >>27910941
Not that I know of. But I guess the iceberg somewhat serves as that, even if it doesn't have everything and is sprinkled with a few shitposts here and there.

>> No.27973667

The fuck is a fundoshi?

>> No.27973703

The Miracle of life is not a fetish anon

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Those loincloth things nips wear

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It is simply impossible for George to not be a culprit in Bern's game. Observe the obvious contradiction.
Rule: There are no lies in the narration.
Rule: Characters who are not culprits only speak the truth.
Rule: A culprit must carry out all murders directly, with their own hands.
Narration: "[Nanjo] died in the entrance hall of the guesthouse."
George: "This was an instant death."
George: "No one could kill Doctor Nanjo inside the guest house."
The narration is absolute, and it's impossible for Nanjo to die inside the guesthouse instantly from an attack delivered to him outside the guesthouse.

>> No.27975186

In this vein, does the psp version have a translation patch or am I stuck with google translate camera

>> No.27975763

It doesn't, as far as I know. But it's pretty easy to figure out, if it's the menus you are worried about.

I'm playing the Mega Edition version downloaded from Lambdadelto's blog, using the PPSSPP emulator. It's pretty good. If you need help with the mechanics, menus, unlockables, controls or anything else, I'll be glad to help. There are some obscure things in that game that guides don't tell you.

>> No.27975841

>that time Moriya Marie pulled a toy story and traumatized a kid for life

>> No.27979314

Regardless of story and personal investment, do you prefer the countless real fragments of Higurashi, the endless possibilities of the catbox in Umineko or the _____________ of Ciconia?

>> No.27979561

I hate some of you in this general, and you know who you are. You prevent me from enjoying WTC. Please die.


>> No.27979708

Please elaborate.
Who do you mean?

>> No.27979763

>fundoshi between her cheeks
Pathetic! How can Satoko live with herself? She shows more butt skin than anyone else in the game!

>> No.27980557

So I got my friend into Higurashi, how do I explain to him that wanting a Shion gf is perfectly normal

>> No.27980829

Returning from the grave to ask if anybody here still has Magic Time, that mastercraft seacats Hard Time modification.

>> No.27981800

Based anon

>> No.27981829

Don't let goats keep you from enjoying things.

>> No.27981874

Actually WTC teach to argue and discuss with people with have different ideas anon

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Iwaihime in a couple more days.

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>> No.27982602

Should I read Ciconia asap or can I wait? How good is it

>> No.27982680

Here's Season 3

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>> No.27983109
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You can now buy physical of Ryukishi07's works (Ciconia, Umi Saku, TRT, Higanbana, and 07thExp Karuta set) directly from 07th Expansion! https://shop.cubsworks.com/

>> No.27986942

Italianon confirmed this as canon, so it is definitely 100% true

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>> No.27988101

far from finished so who cares unless you like waiting a year between chapters

>> No.27988650

Chapter 2 isn't even announced yet and nobody is really actively discussing it right now so read it at your own convenience. It's pretty divisive as to whether it's good but I personally liked it a lot.

>> No.27989108
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Do the MG Higu releases in the folder work with 07th-mod? Since the new show turned out to be a sequel I thought I'd just finally read the VN instead of trying to remember details of shit I watched in the 00s.

>> No.27989505

Only their newer releases, which in the Mega are listed as "[07th Expansion/MangaGamer] Higurashi When They Cry Hou" in the folders for Higurashi and Kai for the question and answer arcs respectively.

>> No.27990254

Oh, I was using the wrong one before. I got it to work now, thanks. Doesn't seem to have an option for the original sprites though. Is that only for Umineko?

>> No.27990330

Why? You probably think this is a good idea, but you'll be harming the experience. Don't come back saying "the VN is alright" or "Umineko was better" when it's your own fault for adding voices that kill the atmosphere and cringy CGs that pull you out of the immersion.

>> No.27990390

What do you want the mod for if you want original art? Literally just download the vanilla MG version WITHOUT the update that changed the music. That's all you need.

>> No.27990707

I was under the impression it was a completely configurable wrapper with every possible combination of options so I could fiddle around but I can't even take it out of 16:9. Guess I'll stick to the old version.

>> No.27991572

The old version of Higu has really bad translation. You can take the new one as the other anons said.
But, if what you're interested is to have OG BGM/sound effects you only have to follow theses instructions.

>> No.27991621

Forgot to paste the link :

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I'm personally torn between Shion and Keiichi.

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>> No.28000312

>Rika-chama will never purify our sins with her body
truly this is a fallen world

>> No.28003360


What the FUCK is this ending? Did Hanyuu wish to have a vibrator stuck in her cunny and can't take it out?

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Holy shit based, why didn't anyone tell me the endings were this good

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>> No.28006639

Sex slave

>> No.28007147

post full image pls

>> No.28008104

Go away italianon

>> No.28008608

The edit seems to came from way before his apparition. Some people actually believe in that theory when EP6 came out.

>> No.28008691

Little grls in sandals are too powerful

>> No.28008769

fuck off
i made this edit

then Erikantrice was discovered by Me
>but muh Erika=Kanon was before you
like vikings they discover just a little part of the real truth of umineko and immidiatly stop thinking about it

I am cristoforo Colombo

>> No.28008999

Modern chink roris wear crocs.

>> No.28009422

Fundoshi + towel combo is superior. Satoko wins.

>> No.28009647

I am yet to see visual evidence of this fundoshi

>> No.28009728

I came up with the idea for Erikantrice, italianon stole it from me. Shame on him.

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fuck off viking
send proof?

the only Erika=Kanon thing i found out before me was an image and an article about a shkanon fag who confute this image with the manga

>> No.28009995

I don't need proof, I have justice on my side.

>> No.28010156

nox's 8th
It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

>> No.28010402

Just play the game and you'll see. It's unlocked by default.

>> No.28010544

>we saw Satoko's completely naked cunny, belly and nipples in the original VN
>we saw Rena's completely naked ass in the fourth season of the anime
How come Ange is associated with humiliation when these underage lewdites have canonically had their shameful humanity exposed?

>> No.28010570

I am disgusted that you stole your shitty theory from someone else.

>> No.28011097

Satoko has always been a ridiculous creature. Imagine Satoko taking a shower, diligently smearing soap all over her preteen armpits and butt crack. It's such an obscene sight, the kind that would make her commit suicide if one of her friends accidentally walked in! And yet, this has happened in canon hundreds upon hundreds of times! Satoko is so used to cleaning herself that she doesn't even notice how pathetic she looks as she rubs every nook and cranny of her body with the soap! She's used to being pathetic! Lewd!

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Can you believe that italianon stole his theory?

>> No.28011276

Can't believe Italianon's a hack.

>> No.28011335

I can, honestly.

>> No.28011487

fake i create my theory without know about Erika=Kanon was already bad created

look the archive
there is the message when i deduce Erika=Kanon

>> No.28011724

>Look through thousands of posts in the archive, I don't have to prove myself
Pathetic attempt. Try to steal a bit more subtly the next time you're going to write a manifesto.

>> No.28011860

I looked at the archive and found out you were raped by your uncle. Pathetic. I wonder what your family thinks. You are a pitiful rapee lmao.

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Filthy thief

>> No.28012019

the limited amount of respect i had for you has completely evaporated because of this

>> No.28012227
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not only are you a filthy esl Italian
not only are you a tranny
not only were you raped
but you stole your theory as well

>> No.28012298

>no umineko and higurashi jewel case releases

>> No.28012464
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my theory born as George's theory then when i discover Erika=Kanon i created Erikantrice
so was unique
look the image in this message i discoverd Erikantrice

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>> No.28012616

look here

>> No.28012710

But this was my post.
You just linked MY post.

>> No.28012734

Thieving rape victim trash

>> No.28012996

how embarrassing

>> No.28013167

Ange is pure!

>> No.28013180
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>> No.28013320

Can’t believe someone filmed the Erikantrice manifesto

>> No.28013387

I'm new here, is this kind of autism common here or is this some kind of stage play?

>> No.28013409

it's always like this

>> No.28013422

Nice i will feel right at home

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>new here

i discover the real one and i called it Erikantrice
Erikatrice is a theory explained in these 4 points:

1)George and Kanon are the culprits in all the games (including Bern's game and Reality) with Genji,Kumasawa and Nanjo as accomplices.

George was the true heir of Kinzo, both were puppet of their family until a woman make them true man and for this woman( castiglioni for Kinzo and Shannon for George) they killed everyone on Rokkenjima

2) ep5 and 6 are explained with Erika=Kanon
ep5 was a consirancy against Natsuhi
first Erikanon gain the trust of the family by solving the epigraph(detective authority) then give to everyone an alibe except Natsuhi
Meanwhile George commited the murders so Erika could accuse Natsuhi of these crime and humiliate her
same thing for ep6 just against Battler

3) Kanon is not Shannon
Yasu born as a female since Kinzo was afraid of commit the same sin again
what sin?
make pregnant his daugther and you cant get pregnant a male
so Kanon is a cute tomboy and fap on her is not gay

4)Ikuko is Yasu
Yasu tried to kill herself, Battler saved her but lose his memory so Yasu choice to live for him.
she become Ikuko and start to create stories about rokkenjima to make Battler solve them in the hope of get his memory back

all umineko is the magic version of these events

read here Erikantrice manifesto for more info:

>> No.28013522

remember to redeem your free ticket to the golden land

>> No.28013582

Nerf this!!

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>> No.28013705

I really doubt this. I spoon-fed Italianon with Erika=someone of the original cast theories and look what he have became!

>> No.28013760

Shkannon is a gold truth.

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Why is Italianon such a second rate thief?

>> No.28013918

Satoko so cute and yet! And yet!

>> No.28014350

Nah, what's the chance that two geniuses have the same idea?

>> No.28014474

i am not a thief
i discover Erika = Kanon after many discussion and many reread
and this complete my theory

>> No.28014760

Niggas rate Executioner but IMO Hell's Halls and Thunberg Lily and Hour of Darkness are more important to setting the tone.
Also why can't I find Hell's Halls or Thunberg Lily online? Are they called something different in the mainstream translation or something?

>> No.28014804

ah yes, very true.

>> No.28015024
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According to the BD episode list on the higurashi anime site, we can assume that the 24 episodes will be divided into 5 arcs with the following episode counts: 4-4-5-4-7.

Here's something interesting though: the date for the Umineko switch release (1/28) coincides with the same day in which a new Higurashi episode comes out. This episode (episode 17) will be at the end of the fourth arc.

Here's my theory: Featherine (or any Umineko tie-in) will be introduced in Episode 17 to coincide with the Umineko switch release. There is absolutely no way they would pass up this opportunity, it's the perfect marketing strategy. It being revealed at the end of the fourth arc also assumes that Featherine will be introduced as some kind of big reveal.

>> No.28015057

could also be 3 arcs a 8-9-7

>> No.28015070

>There is absolutely no way they would pass up this opportunity
Just you watch 'em
Hope you're right though

>> No.28015166

I can't wait that long for smug hito no kos

>> No.28016375

The secret of the character of Sayo is the core of Umineko’s story, so her inner workings and development were designed carefully and with the utmost complexity.

In the original version, in order to leave room for imagination for the reader to solve the mystery, I chose not to draw Sayo’s secrets in great detail (of course, it’s still possible to grasp, but I didn’t show things in a way where everyone would get it.)

With the manga version of Umineko, however, we considered the work to be a “period” to the “sentence” that is the world of Umineko.

Because of this, when I met with Natsumi-sensei [Kei Natsumi, the artist of the manga adaptation of Umineko’s eighth episode], I asked her to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.

Thus, all of the episode of Sayo that appeared in the EP8 manga is the official answer to the world of Umineko.

By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.

>> No.28016447

What if he's trying to bamboozle everyone

>> No.28016505

When italianon cries
He laughs

>> No.28016764
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>I chose not to draw Sayo’s secrets in great detail
Shkanontrice won so you were forced to write something pro-Shkanontrice without violate it.
> I asked her to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.
without love it cannot be seen
a solution for goat is not the solution of Umineko
>Thus, all of the episode of Sayo that appeared in the EP8 manga is the official answer to the world of Umineko.
Shkanontrice is impossible in umineko manga since closer room circle is impossible
>It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.
nice try R07
finnally after 10 years your witch is going to die
but dont worry , her requeim will make her legendary

>> No.28016829

So what exactly was the objection to Ikuko and Tohya being married

>> No.28016867

The story is that the female 7th expansion staffers thought it ruined the love story between Battler and Beatrice so he backtracked on the Tonya and Ikuko marriage

>> No.28016871

Shkanontrice fags dont belive in Ikuko=Yasu

>> No.28016988

It's been fucking decades and Tohya is a distinct person from Battler
Like, let it go

>> No.28016994

Fuck females, they ruined my wholesome IkukoxTohya headcanon.

>> No.28017000

battler died alongside beatrice and tohya tried to lay the ghost to rest, but the staffers wanted to chain him to battlers commitments forever somehow?
ryukishi is surrounded by goats.

>> No.28017044

Because Ikuko is for me

>> No.28017070

>an eccentric rich woman will never find you on the roadside and decide to keep you
Why even live

>> No.28017091

I bet you aren't even standing on the roadside frequently enough to make your dreams come true anon. A miracle is just a question of probability, if you try for long enough you can find her

>> No.28017102

you mean the serial killer that you love tried to kill herself and to save her you lost memory so she become a writer and take care of you

>> No.28017126

Is there an Ikuko version of
>are you well do you have brain damage

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>> No.28017176

>why no children
because they aren't married or in a relationship

>> No.28017192

>an eccentric rich woman will never hit you with her car, cause severe brain damage which permanently alters your personality and eventually cripples you in the process and decide to keep you out of pity
Feels good, bros.

>> No.28017200

but if were suppose to marry , why no children?

>> No.28017235

And yet again you demonstrate to have absolutely no grasp on the story. Sagusa, italian anon!

>> No.28017246

why should they have children?

>> No.28017263

Because Ryukishi07 never fleshed that part out. Duh.

>> No.28017306

because if you get married usually you have sex according with Erika

nope in ep 6 Ikuko have no children

>> No.28017322


>> No.28017344

But they weren't married or supposed to marry you decrepit fuck. Read the VN for once.

>> No.28017358


>> No.28017380

>thread on autosage
>anons start taking the bait again
sasuga you absolute retards

>> No.28017389

r07 change idea in ep8 rigth?
so before that for Ryukishi Ikuko was married with Battler

>> No.28017432

Ikuko is asexual

>> No.28017433

>r07 change idea in ep8 rigth?
Wrong. What makes you think so?

>> No.28017464

because tohya character is of ep8
so R07 coworker could discover this only during ep8
if you marry you are not asexual

>> No.28017606

I find Tohya's story incredibly sad but most fans seem to hate him for keeping his distance to Ange.
I get the sentiment, but to him the Ushiromiyas were nothing more than a fleeting dream, an illusion which could destroy his personality if he thought too deeply about it.
Why the hate?

>> No.28017696
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Ange: Pardon me but are the two of you married
Tohya: No
Ikuku: But we have been living together for years
Ange: I see...what is going through my head
Ikoku: But we do have sex <3

>> No.28017698

nameless one did the moral thing by acknowledging the sins of his past iterations and trying to atone for them. tohya should have done that as well.

>> No.28017736

Updated my journal

>> No.28017770

>nameless one
What is this Umineko lore?

>> No.28017794

my middle aged filled with cancer wife

>> No.28017828

God imagine living your entire life in the middle of nowhere with a smart cutie like Ikuko

>> No.28017834

How do they have sex? Tohya's dick is useless.
Is there any other way for a man to feel pleasure? ...Is there?

>> No.28017838
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>and what can change the nature of a man

>> No.28018251

Should I bite the bullet and start reading answers arc for Higurashi? I have generally good theories about who kills Tomitake and Rika and what happens in Tatarigorishi, but am a bit confused about the specifics in Onikakushi and Watanagashi (and how Rika is able to predict stuff in Himatsubushi). Would you say I should be able to solve 1&2 with a fair bit of confidence if I just went over them a few more times? No hints / spoilers please just yes or no.

>> No.28018252

Yukari met Ikuko's daughter who is resembling her mother. That's why she lived with Tohya for many years... Oops, does that remind you of another relationship?

>> No.28018294

Bite the bullet, anon.

>> No.28018464

just read dude

>> No.28018662

>or in a relationship
Doubtful. They aren't married, but they are definitely a couple. They have no children because they don't like them and are too autistic to waste half of their precious time on Earth raising brats. Someone with a true passion beyond the surface level "hobbies" of normies can't afford to waste time on kids.

>> No.28018714

Cripples don't have sex.

>> No.28018729

>raising kids is for dum-dums without real goals

>> No.28018776

you should ask Yasu

>> No.28018787

But Katawa shoujo...

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>are too autistic to waste half of their precious time on Earth raising brats.
literrally one of the best thing that can happened and you call it waste of time

so for you what must you use time?
to drug, drink,smoke, watch movies ecc..
this isnt a waste of time for you?

holy fucking shit

>> No.28018818

What if your passion is rori butt?

>> No.28018837

Katawa KINO

>> No.28018877

Please write up your theories and post them somewhere.

>> No.28018878

lowkey based

>> No.28018900


>> No.28018950

Tohya pretend to be crippled.
Tohya and Ikuko same person. Read Erikantrice manifesto for truth.
Without this love it cannot be seen. Ikuko=battler this is true mistery

>> No.28018951

Satoko doesn't have a shower. She has a bathtub and she probably plays with toy ducks in it like a little kid, even though she's already 11. That is truly pathetic!

The same game where she wears a ridiculous fundoshi that barely covers her butt crack has an unlockable toy duck projectile weapon, so it's canon.

>> No.28019168

If we have never seen Satoko and a shower in the same place at the same time, is it possible Satoko is in fact a shower?

>> No.28019187

Do Japanese school girls ACTUALLY find it normal to go to hot springs with their female friends and see each other butt-ass-naked? I see this in every anime ever, ranging from elementary schoolers to high schoolers, from realistic anime to wacky comedy, and it's absolutely baffling. Is it an Asian thing? The mere idea of it would be mortifying for a western girl. Nobody wants her shameful hairy pussy and half-grown teenage tits exposed to girls the same age, especially if they are friends.

Also, wouldn't this lead to hardcore bullying if there's a falling out in the group of friends and they start divulging embarrassing details about the naked body of their classmate? How the fuck is it even possible for a human girl to not care about having her ass, pussy and tits seen by others?

>> No.28019300

Does this make lesbians more ostracized because they pervert the "normality" of female friends seeing each other completely buck-arse-naked?

>> No.28019348

>are gays more ostracized
Gee I wonder

>> No.28019669

I have an autism word doc that's super long but I summed up most of it here.

>> No.28019750

how else are regular girls supposed to react to the idea that they might be an object of desire even for their female classmates? that's obviously creepy, right? it's only natural that they'll signal their aversion through bullying, just like they'd bully unattractive boys who try to approach them. it's basically self-defence.

>> No.28019767

This is mindblowing for me as well. Rena has actually seen Satoko's naked ass.

>> No.28019917

>tfw Mion expected Rena to think nothing of seeing her naked, but she discovered that Rena likes girls and is probably paying close attention to her naked body and imagining her performing degrading acts
>her close friend fantasizes about her humiliation and degradation
Anyone would be creeped out by that. Probably because girls are fucking dumbasses and have this bizarre idea that seeing each other naked is no big deal because they all have the same stuff. As if humiliation wasn't the core of human existence.

>> No.28020039

Even a straight girl would be morbidly curious about how ridiculous her usually proud friend looks while taking a dump or doing something really humiliating in private. Rena can masturbate to Mion's human condition and still be straight (this is ignoring her canon pedo crush on Rika and Satoko).

>> No.28020149

Girls like cute and they themselves tend to be cute. Bisexuality is normal for girls. Only a normie idiot with no inner monologue would be attracted only to what nature dictates without appreciating the lewdness of a fellow girl.

>> No.28020274

>Rena can masturbate to Mion's human condition and still be straight
that doesn't seem like such a good idea. Rena would be disgusted with herself afterward, and project that disgust onto Mion. she would never be able to see her friend the same way again, the desire to destroy Mion's illusion of dignity, to make her recognize that she is a pathetic, inferior creature would begin to tear apart her natural, normative reproductive directive and restructure her psyche into a hyper-sexual, feral mess. and then she might really do it, she might rape Mion.

>> No.28020303
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>Somehow the MANIFESTO reaches Ryukishi07
>He reads it
>New tweet appears on 07th expansion's page, pic related is one of Erikantrice memes: "Finally. After all those years someone found the true solution to the Umineko mystery. Congratulations to the western fans. I'm really proud of you. Ryu"

>> No.28020344

Girls aren't attracted to anything, they are exhibitionists by nature. They get turned on by flaunting their bodies, having males desire them and finally exposing their shameful bodies to a chad capable of humiliating and dominating them. Deep down all girls crave degradation and they are turned on by the idea of males appreciating their lewd bodies. They aren't attracted to males themselves, only to the idea of what they might be thinking of them.

>> No.28020402

>excerpt from: John Berger - Ways of Seeing

>> No.28020429
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best day of my life
make another discord account and i will enjoy the tears of the backbanners.

>> No.28020553

>They aren't attracted to males themselves, only to the idea of what they might be thinking of them.
If that were true then girls would be equally attracted to all males.

>> No.28020690

>Deep down all girls crave degradation
Naima craves degradation! Pathetic! She's so cute and yet! And yet! Even so! Even so! Despite that! Despite that! Nonetheless! Nonetheless!

>> No.28020775

Any idea to reach ryukishi guys?
idk japanese so post on 2chan is impossible can someone who know japanese post my manifesto on 2chan then post their comments here?

it would be a very great change to improve my manifesto + some change to reach ryukishi

>> No.28020807

I'm glad your spelling and grammar improved over a year, anon!

>> No.28021017

this has to be bait, right?

>> No.28021130

Maria's unmentionables.

>> No.28021583

This is how porn addicts think

>> No.28021678

Porn addiction isn't real

>> No.28022016

why do you hate sexually liberated women? prude.

>> No.28022867


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ohnonono the aliens are real aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

>> No.28023175

The moon's an egg

>> No.28023293

Impressive anon, you literally almost have it all figured out. There are only two or three details you are really missing/haven't figured out. Honestly, you should just move on to the answer arcs because you've, quite honestly, almost solved everything.

>> No.28023568

Telling people they've solved something kinda ruins the surprise

>> No.28023577

What >>28023293 said. If it's a blind playthrough your analysis is pretty goddamn spot on.

>> No.28024430

>Tohya pretend to be crippled.
No, the suicide attempt was well after him not actually jumping into the ocean after Yasu

>> No.28026432

>when people pronounce natsuhi natsooey

>> No.28026434

based retard
doesn't know how to run damage control
the absolute state of /07th/

not that it really matters, the answer arcs do a lot more than just resolve the mysteries.

>> No.28027430

nah-tsoo-hee でしょ

>> No.28027838
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hee ho!

>> No.28027939

obsolete mascot

>> No.28028391

Go make yourself taller.

>> No.28029069

making miyao cum (sperm)

>> No.28029993

Girls have sperm too

>> No.28032313

I don't get it.
Who is it?

>> No.28034347

At the very end of Last Note of the Golden Witch, does anybody know the bgm that plays when Lambda and Bern are alluding to Ciconia? That track carried the entire ending and I can’t find it for the life of me.

>> No.28034880

Is everything on the mega archive translated? Can't download the stuff right now since no computer at the moment

>> No.28039783

The stuff that's translated is translated.
Mostly the only stuff not translated would be the non-07th works; pretty much everything else has an english version or patch.

>> No.28040132


>> No.28040202

pay triple of tax and you can be childless

>> No.28040604

The fact that literal lolis have an inner monologue is simply mindblowing.

>> No.28040622

07th expansion or Umineko Project?

>> No.28040734


>> No.28040914

please dont spark another r07 vs PS3 shitshow--it's up to personal taste, leave it at that

or did you mean 07th-mod vs Umi Project?
Umi Project is vastly superior to 07th-mod. The translation is equal to the MG tl, even better in parts. Most complaints about the tl are dated as much has been done over the past couple years to improve it.
As for implementing the ps3 content, Umi Project comes with it all and does it smoothly, 07th-mod is janky in comparison and is missing parts since its basically just asset replacement.
Only reason to do 07th-mod over UmiProject is if you prefer the steam tl or only want to modularly apply just voices and what not.

>> No.28041380

Can someone explain this? How is it even possible for teenage girls to see each other naked and still act normal the next day at school?

>> No.28042734

I don't recall right now, but check the bgm files in the game folder, it should be easy to find.

>> No.28042748

Mion is so amazing that even seeing her naked ass wouldn't make her any less cool.

>> No.28043401

is no egg khaleesi, is goddess
it is known!

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Kazuho needs help.

>> No.28044376

>24 episodes will be divided into 5 arcs
If we get another vn chapter but with minor difference I'll probably drop that shit

>> No.28044444

the next couple episodes will reveal what this new higurashi is trying to do. if it's too safe I'll probably stop following on a weekly basis and watch one arc at a time instead.

>> No.28044586

Well the last episode was boring so I hope you're right.

>> No.28045697

I don't really see how this episode could go normally, considering that Rena has killed four people so far.

>> No.28046472

Did you forget this series was intended to release in the summer and got postponed

>> No.28047082

has anyone written some nice lewd fics lately?? I need inspiration

>> No.28047258

I'm in the process of saving the best ones (lewd and non-lewd) and I'll share soon.

>> No.28047567

that's just what I went to hear, I'll be looking forward to it

>> No.28047995

No fics, but I'm always brainstorming ideas for a scenarios.

>> No.28049366

it's fine to wait.
you could try to read it in a way so you catch up by the time the next phase comes out. that way you can discuss the new installment along with the thread.
whether you do that with phase 2 or wait till later is up to you.

that being said phase 2 doesnt have a release date yet.

>> No.28049409

Yeah that's the reason why I haven't read yet, I don't want to wait too much but I was scared of getting spoiled by coming here but it seems there's not a lot of discussion on it apparently

>> No.28050011

discussion died out after a while since there's nothing more to talk about until phase 2 comes out.

>> No.28050201

You could always talk about how KINO phase one was.

>> No.28050294

Someone wrote a ~60 page fanfic about Erika and Kanon, but it's not very good.

>> No.28050600

But I've already talked about that.

>> No.28050779

Never enough.

>> No.28052261

If I am not a sexually liberated men why woman should?

>> No.28053243

Is this why Mion hates Rena?

>> No.28053257

holy shit lambda in higurashi

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Did he actually appear?

>> No.28054836

Seems Onidamashi has ended and Watadamashi will being next week

>> No.28055092
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The great ruse continues.

>> No.28055144

I bought the heart weapon for Miyoko and now her AI is as cancerous as Lambda in Golden Fantasia. Stop spamming you little cunt.

>> No.28055151

>Rika already failed
ohnononono I thought she was ready for anything

>> No.28056445

i remember getting off like 6 times to that 8ch thread where there was a fic about going through purgatory and having to fuck each stake but hold off on cumming to pass all 7 rooms
shame the site went down

>> No.28056651

I want into Higanbanana but I don't know if my heart can endure another Umineko tier ending.

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I wish Gohdatrice were real because he didn't deserve to died.

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pantsuit mommy

>> No.28058000

Well, she's playing on NG+. That means all obstructions at once in one timeline with red phantoms every Watanagashi festival.

>> No.28058118

>not saving fics you like

>> No.28058152

shit was long and i didnt expect the site to go down

>> No.28058497

You didn't expect the kneejerk response revenge site filled with all manner of illegal content to go down?

>> No.28058500

i believe what you said

>> No.28058628


>> No.28058708

shit was up for 6 years anon

>> No.28058782

I want to marry this single mom and take care of her retarded child

>> No.28059408

How do I get Hane, Saku and Tsubasa from the mega to work?
The iso files are all messed up when I try to open them.

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>> No.28059915

Ryu07 already predicted his "fans" reaction to Chiru back in chapter 5. He's so based to still pull through with it and obscure the real events despite the outrage.

>> No.28060123

ALL sites go down eventually. It's not that hard to copy plain text to a .txt file.

>> No.28060179

>opening iso files

>> No.28060490

So did Rika kill her loli gf and herself to prevent the disaster? This might be her modus operandi from now on because she knows what happens if she lets the mountain dogs do it.

>> No.28060618

Did they kill Irie like usual or was the hospital closed because Takano got murdernapped?

>> No.28060702

I don't know.

>> No.28061206

ye, it might be a "if I can't have her no one can"-thing. in which case Rika's sanity meter is a lot more depleted than one might suspect.
outlook uncertain

>> No.28061229

>Rika's sanity meter is a lot more depleted than one might suspect
Why? That sounds reasonable. If I die my cat is being burried with me

>> No.28061520

no murder neko

>> No.28061584

No really this cat would probably get depressed and die if I go she's way too attached

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>> No.28061832

nice boat

>> No.28062001

No, it isn't reasonable. It's sentimental.

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Noticed a minor spelling error in the mega.
Not that it matters, I don't want to publicly humiliate you by pointing this out.

>> No.28062126
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God damn I love her so much I really do wish she were my mom, out of all the sprites her alchemist sprites have the best expressions

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>> No.28062252

Magical hag Rosa is best Rosa

>> No.28062347
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That smug sprite is nowhere near this smug sprite, I love it so much it's so cocky

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>> No.28062437
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Stop reducing my wife to her smugness, she is a loving mother and a good daughter too!

>> No.28062519

why are so many r07 fags so low iq
half of them are dumbfounded when confronted with a disc image file, zips, or the concept of installing patches themselves
that's assuming someone spoonfed them links to download them in the first place
if these are the kind of people reading, no wonder r07 felt the need to spell out the answer in the manga for Umineko
he honestly didn't dumb it down enough

>> No.28062571

mega anon can't even spell?
how can he put this out publically? does he have no shame? does he get off on this? lewd!

>> No.28062689
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Rosa Ushiromiya is perfect I really do wish she were my mom, she tries her best to be a good mother and cares about her family and friends, in scary situations she isn't paralyzed by fear and goes out of her way to protect the ones she loves, if she were my mother I'd do anything to make her happy, I love her so much

>> No.28062709

I'm old and bad at computer stuff I'm sorry.

>> No.28062742

people who grew up on the "user-friendly" consumer internet often don't have the kind of basic technical knowledge that used to be taken for granted.

>> No.28062763

how old are you

>> No.28062790

Anyone who unironically thinks being a nerdy computer geek correlates with intelligence instead of virginity is bottom of the barrel trash.

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>> No.28062823

what's life like in the nursing home

>> No.28063002

I guess that fair, but I also tend to hold a functional standard for people who read vns. It kind of comes with the hobby that you know how, at the bare minimum, to work with image files and patches and searching for them. Though I guess in recent years the bar to entry has been lowered with the huge increase in official tl releases.

>> No.28063115

Does anyone know if Mangagamer plans on releasing the additional Umineko chapters?

>> No.28063180

I'm pretty sure they do? I don't know where it lies in priority though with Ciconia and the extra Higurashi chapters I know they have planned.

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Good news.

>> No.28063347

Is that the exact same nurse that killed Satoko in the Kai anime?

>> No.28063388

They were packing all the evidence in boxes and closing up shop.

>> No.28063425

Pathetic! I bet he got his loli cousin to name the folders!

>> No.28063709

The still found her body and had plenty of time to convince the prime minister. The disaster didn't happen because Takano is really dead, not because Rika died on her own.

The previous times it didn't happen Rika's body was found several days later in the Sonozaki house, destroying the premise of Takano's documents because nobody went mad.

>> No.28063843

Rika has been acting weird around Satoko the whole arc.

Either she'll go fucking mad and suspect Satoko of being a Lambda piece, or they had a lesbian relationship as teenagers and Rika wants to lewd the preteen version of her girlfriend.

That's the purpose of Rika living that long before this anime.

>> No.28063982

But Rika wants to tap akasaka's Akasaka.

>> No.28064622

Mion is either fronting to make Keiichi feel better or she's genuinely taking it well because she's Shion in disguise and she killed Rika and Satoko.

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Thats iceberg theory level but I don't think it could be something like that.

Rika just suicided because she knows she told Keiichi to trust Rena and that screwed up. As expected Rika was too confident and underestimated everything from what probably was a fake happy ending anyway. Rena had autism breaks all the time Rika didn't care, Keiichi had one single autism and Rika was all over him to fix something.
This also makes me think how much Rika knows about meta information, how did she knew Keiichi was going to be the one killing people why couldn't Rena do it as well? Don't remember any rule making sure just one would do the killings besides I believe Rika doesn't know about the maggots or she would be thinking on an other level.
Also is it plausible Rena being innately different somehow due to her Hinamizawa origins or just iceberg meme and its just the maggots?

Most important why was all of it censored so hard????

>> No.28064818

She's Mion, why shouldn't she be taking it well?
Finally a world without competition... it's her time to shine.

>> No.28065013

>Most important why was all of it censored so hard????
Only the first attack was censored, right?

>> No.28065068

Nope there was a black censorship cloud on the wounds.

>> No.28065250

gotta censor it to help drive up those bluray sells

>> No.28065338

The TV said something about a dismembered body being found. I think Rena wanted to kill Keiichi in revenge and then disappear because she thinks he talked to the cops about what he saw at the dump (he didn't see shit but Rena totally thinks he did). She needs to disappear because the bodies have been found and will be traced back to her.

This is what would've happened in Tsumi if she didn't get help to hide them somewhere else. The corpses were bound to be found by strays or police dogs if she left them in the dump site.

>> No.28065451

I saw it on animesuge and there was no censorship.

>> No.28065529

Ah, I thought it was just some crime drama, but this is more plausible as it even provides a decent motive.
Yeah, Rena probably accepted that her happy days were over and done with when Teppei and Risa were found, so she decided to at least punish the person who ruined everything by snitching to the police. I don't think she has any real plans to "disappear" though, she'll just drown herself in the swamp when she's done with K1. Rena must know that she's losing it and doesn't have much time left.

>> No.28065580

Rena says she was cursed already so it makes sense she knows shes losing it.

>> No.28066478

I'm still not buying that stabbing scene. I could only trust the 'result' and that is Keiichi killing Rena.. Again.
I'm not doubting that Rena killed someone in this new timeline but I'm skeptic that she goes full bonkers on him judging from the after results that they've showed outside of K1's perspective alone.

>> No.28066671

That stab scene is ridiculous. Maybe Rena passed out when she hits her head in the table. Then everything after that is Keiichi's paranoia.

>> No.28066743

where did you find this?

>> No.28066915

>Rena probably accepted that her happy days were over and done with when Teppei and Risa were found, so she decided to at least punish the person who ruined everything
There is even a precedent for this in Meakashi. The reason Shion goes on a rampage for revenge is because her life is fucking over after accidentally killing Oryou. If she didn't cross that line by accident, she would never go full axe crazy.

Yasu is a subversion of this idea because she actually WANTS to ruin her life by commiting murder so she can kill herself without chickening out at the last minute.

>> No.28066997

The wiki

>> No.28067021

She's probably seeing the maggots again. It's her most prominent delusion.

The stabbing scene was over the top with the number of stabs and blood, but I think it was on purpose to show how fucking scared Keiichi was. From his point of view there were rivers of blood everywhere.

It's possible he overpowered Rena, but she could have also killed herself trying to scratch the maggots out of her neck. "Mion" didn't especify how she died.

>> No.28067081

>Yasu is a subversion of this idea
Yasu, Shannon, Rena, Shion...
Why does Ryukishi reuse the yandere trope so often?

>> No.28067140

That scene is suspicious to say the least. Why would Rena pretend to be out cold just to scare Keiichi, when he could've grabbed the knife? I think she broke her neck or something and everything else was Keiichi literally hallucinating scary shit.

The torture chamber part was enough of him to hallucinate Mion in the hospital and have a heart attack in Watanagashi-hen. And now this arc has Keiichi mildly paranoid before experiencing a horrifying murder attempt. He must have gone insane with fear and hallucinated half the fight. This explains how he survived that many stabs to the gut and still managed to be found in time.

>> No.28067176

Ryukishi writes characters who make bad choices, but the psychology is generally solid and believable. Even when they go insane they aren't whacky-crazy.

>> No.28067189

>That stab scene is ridiculous.
That scene was pretty fun though. Haha!
When I've first saw that scene, this words actually flashed in my brain.
'Welcome back to Hinamizawa'

>> No.28067198

This is why I said Yasu is a different take on Shion's character. Both are obsessed with a boy they barely know and the existence of his sister gets in the way of their """relationship""".

>> No.28067284

>damn eva just accidentally killed those two better just fucking massacre everyone

>> No.28067311

Why are you writing like you're in a visual novel?

>> No.28067313

if everyone's dead no one has to suffer

>> No.28067324

Yasu is a complicated character for sure. Battler is not the only reason why the tragedy happened. Not saying that Shion is not a complicated character either.
It's more like Shion perpetrated the crimes more, than Yasu being more of a victim in the tragedies.

>> No.28067328

She probably thought up a ridiculous scenario in her head where Keiichi lives in a mansion in this small village because he's secretly a mole sent by the cops to mingle with the villagers and capture criminals.

>> No.28067353

for a moment, before I finished reading the sentence, I thought you meant that she literally thought Keiichi was a mole-person.

>> No.28067378


Great ideas ruined by no bush.

>> No.28067426

VN Rika reminds me of a little kitten, but DEEN Rika (especially in season 1) always reminds me of a penguin. Not because she looks anything like one, she just gives me penguin vibes.

>> No.28067459

>It's more like Shion perpetrated the crimes more, than Yasu being more of a victim in the tragedies.

Too much of a clear cut example desu. Might as well compare Takano, Yasu, Ikuko, and Battler altogether.

>> No.28067505

>implying she didn't get the ayy scrapbooks beforehand and decided to kill Takano and Tomitake to force them to reveal more info about the ayys

>> No.28067540

>"Mion" didn't especify how she died.
Also, I hope Oiishi would've given us more info about the situation too.
It's pretty obvious that they didn't for a reason that might reveal the answer.

>> No.28067551

>no anal tag

>> No.28067576

I suspect the Yamainu after todays episode. They might not be Takano's piece anymore.

>> No.28067609

I'm still mad that Eva got away with murdering pure, innocent Natsuhi and even got the headship and gold all to herself after bullying her all these years.
Natsuhi protected the honor of the Ushiromiya family all alone... for nothing.

>> No.28067663

The only one who has a bush is Mion

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It seems like they're packing stuff or might be carrying some stuff over inside. I can't tell.

>> No.28068670

Seem like they are removing considering the logic of removing evidences of anything.

I want Rena to solve all this shit even better than Rika with power. NINGEN DETERMINATION.

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>> No.28068829

If Takano dies, wouldn't it fall to Okonogi to try and carry out Tokyo's plans? Him sending in the mountain dogs to kill Rika (and Satoko) in a way that has a lot of potential answers seems in character for him. It would also explain the lack of a big ritual around Rika's death in this arc, since I think that's something only Takano wants to do.

>> No.28069011

New higurashi episode seems really controversial. Seems like a lot of fans are divided between loving and hating it.

>> No.28069201

Basically if Rena went crazy many people will want to drop it and quit but it can be just Keiichi stuff again.
There is that chair that was misplaced might be a clue to how the memory could be wrong.

>> No.28069371

>Rika literally became Battler

>> No.28069574

I think there is no question that Rena went L5, but I don’t see what’s so bad about it. It’s not like it came out of nowhere.

>> No.28069881

Why are you so sure Rena went L5? I mean because of what she said to Keiichi? That could have been Keiichi explanation in the delusion for what she could have been doing.
What bothers me its how Keiichi says to Oiishi how he remembers how well he was striking Rena and Oiishi just sighs, for some reason felt like Oiishi knew that Keiichi was the one stabbing instead and remembering wrong.

>> No.28070029

You can’t really explain all the references to tsumihoroboshi without the answer that Rena is L5. Everything fits perfectly. This is what would have happened if Rena has killed Teppei and Rina but the junkyard confession never happened and Rena had zero support from her friends.

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>> No.28070068

Why not Rena? She's like 15. Even if she's a freak of nature with an incomplete bush, she still should have one.

>> No.28070385

Rena actually going full slasher in the middle of Keiichi's living room is somehow more disturbing than the slow-burning Onikakushi nightmare.

>> No.28071120

GUYS ONLY 100 VIEWS TO 7000!!!!

>> No.28071218

The human condition of Sonozaki Mion! How can she even take herself seriously?

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