/07/ - 07th Expansion General

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For discussion of the visual novels made by the doujin circle "07th Expansion" including Higurashi, Umineko, Higanbana, Rose Gun Days, Trianthology, Ciconia.

All 07th work: https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

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my warm seed dripping down anges chin

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>>26780516
Incredibly based post.
Even better if she's disgusted by it.

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Ahem.
Gentlemen, please accept my invitation to the Golden Land.
https://pastebin.com/92sbN09a

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Guys I finished Season 3 what's happening I'm scared. It was taking so long for important people to actually die that I thought no main character would die at all.

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>>26780516
I see your
>warm seed dripping down Ange's chine
and I raise you
my hot seed dripping down Ange's inner thighs

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>>26780516
>>26781018
I really can't find Ange sexually attractive. I would enjoy these posts otherwise.

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Mion - literally made for humiliation and mind break
Ange - literally made for humiliation and mind break
Chloe - literally made for humiliation and mind break
I see the pattern, but I don't really understand.

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RIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

https://strawpoll.com/d955sb8wv/

Ok guys last thread for the poll remember to vote

Remember to post here all your opinions,doubts and ceitique about Erikantrice
Only by arguing i can discover errors or new arguments for my manifesto

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>>26780239
any kino pic of the blondie?

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>>26781477
>kino
you mean SOUL?

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>>26781512
great pics

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>>26781648
you mean big?

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>>26781477
You shouldn't come here to post unless you've finished Higurashi.

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>>26781747
>tomitake is so beta he tolerates this

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Mion pleases old men (Oishii)

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Saikoroshi-hen is so fucking boring holy shit. Just started to speedread to finish it for once.

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>>26781908
Ooishi is gay tho

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>>26781908
you mean Mion (Shion((Mion)). and she's not doing it because she likes it, only to tarnish the Sonozakis honor and avenge Satoshi. totally.

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>>26781185
>Opinion
Overall, the theory is stable on its own. But how comes that Shannon isn't Yasu's personality (and still being female). I feel it would fit better if George doesn't know his accomplice is actually his lover. If the butterfly brooch presents the gold card it would make sense that Yasu (as Shannon) try to manipulate George with the gold card. (happy family etc.).
For me, Ikuko is Yasu's new life.
I think EP6 theory should be an upgrade. Accusing Battler should have a purpose.

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>>26780239
This cg looks really fucking bad, are there people in here who actually played and enjoyed reading Higurashi like this?

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Here's the great rule of Internet that some of you tend to forget :
>Don't feed the troll.

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>>26782761
As someone who's been on 4chan for 10 years it's funny how the opposite is now the rule Low effort shitposting and trolling gets all the (you's) while actually good posts get ignored.

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>>26782839
too many new users, not enough time to pass down complex behavioural patterns.

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>>26782460
> If the butterfly brooch presents the gold card it would make sense that Yasu (as Shannon) try to manipulate George with the gold card.
GOlden brooch = money is better without Shannon = Yasu since Shannon refuse to use the card after madebecome George's gf

you can see this scene as Kanon give this hope to his best friend.
Kanon take this money from his sinner father and wanted make happy the only person that care about him but Shannon refuse.

is better like this.

>Accusing Battler should have a purpose.
Yes ep6 goal is accusing Battler
Erika told to rudolf that kyrie trusted her killer so if her body was found in Battler's death room everyone would suspect about him.

>I think EP6 theory should be an upgrade
explain

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>>26781816
you're talking about the game, right?

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>>26783136
yeah, the doom mod.

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>>26782990
>>I think EP6 theory should be an upgrade
>explain
Wanted an explanation for EP6. Why exactly is Yasu's goal accusing Battler for the crime?Kanon/Erika is taking the heat because she went to the mansion.

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>>26783491
sure, sure

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>>26781185
>I have a powerful one: Kyrie couldn't kill Hydeoshi because her rifle was broken !!!!
>You remember that in the 7th chapter of umineko the brothers unite and solve the epigraph,entered in the gold room and started to shot each others.
>Only Rudolf and Kyrie survived, but it was not true because Eva and Yasu survived too even if they were shooted why?
>because 2 rifles of 4 were broken and could not have killed anyone.
RED: Knox's 8th: It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.
As stated with the red in episode 5, Beatrice's tales are meant to be solved. As episode 5 has Lambdadelta as the game master, and as shown in episode 7, with the only games that Will is given to solve by clair in order to kill her are the first four games; which means that "Beatrice's" games can only include episodes 1-4 and any clues provided outside of those episodes must be disregarded when solving the mystery of the first 4 games. However, due to the perspectives given in episodes 5-8 (+9 and our confession), it is possible for those episodes to provide context, suggest possible solutions, and provide additional clues, but the formulation of any solution must be able to be explained by only the clues shown in the first 4 games. Therefore the idea of Kyrie's gun not working because it was shown as not working in episode 7 must be disregarded because the idea of that happening was never alluded to in episodes 1-4.
>As we saw in the second game, the chapel cannot be opened with a master key, so once Shkanon closed the chapel door there would be no ways to bring the chapel key to the boiler room(Nanjo , Eva and Hideyoshi were with the group and could not have helped her).
The chapel was already unlocked before Shannon placed the key in the boiler room so there is no contradiction here as Shannon can lock the chapel from the inside.

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>>26784356
Well like episode 5 Yasu is faking to be a detective to accuse Battler of the crime and made him confess
Sadly unlike ep5 we never see what happened after the logic error so is not 100%

>Kanon/Erika is taking the heat because she went to the mansion.
Was a risky move but other person caged into the rooms.

There are 2 solutions for this 1 provided by an anon.

The first is simple Erika wanted spot Battler alive in the room , then put Kyrie's body near him to increase the accuse of 100%
Erika could said after exti from the next room over she hear something and when she check she saw alive Battler with a strange bag , so she followed him and find out the truth

The second is different
Erika fake to be Kanon to make Battler escape then closet the room from outside by repair the chain to complete the perfect 2nd twligth

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>>26784764
>>26784764
>RED: Knox's 8th: It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.
Ep7 is the solution of the mystery from the author
Knox is valid inside the game not when author talks

>which means that "Beatrice's" games can only include episodes 1-4
yes my theory is valid with only the first 4 games thanks Kanon and George accomplices
this proof is found in the question arc that give more riddles but without it Erikantrice is still valide
>Therefore the idea of Kyrie's gun not working because it was shown as not working in episode 7
AND YOU ARE WRONG SINCE CHESTERS SISTERS ARE THE META RAPRESENTATION OF RIFLES AND IN EP3 THERE WERE ONLY 2 OF THEM

so only 2 rifles works

>The chapel was already unlocked before Shannon placed the key in the boiler room so there is no contradiction here as Shannon can lock the chapel from the inside
Manga red truth
There is no means of locking the doors and windows of those six rooms without the keys.

so is impossible close the chaple without the key

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>>26785067
>AND YOU ARE WRONG SINCE CHESTERS SISTERS ARE THE META RAPRESENTATION OF RIFLES AND IN EP3 THERE WERE ONLY 2 OF THEM
>so only 2 rifles works
RED: Knox's 8th: It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.
Nothing in the first 4 games alludes to the Chiester Sisters being more than a metaphor for the guns taking the form of Maria's Rabbit Corp. No hints ever suggests that they are a representation of the only working guns.
>Manga red truth
>There is no means of locking the doors and windows of those six rooms without the keys.
The red truth from the VN only bars devices from locking the chapel nothing about locking it from the inside.
RED: Furthermore, all of the doors and windows on the six rooms are normal. No ***device*** exists which can lock them without a key, such as an auto-lock.

And addressing the manga's red truth:
RED: There is no means of locking the doors and windows of those six rooms without the keys.
This line never suggests that the chapel was locked. And the line that might suggest that;
RED: All five master keys were discovered, each in the pocket of one of the servants! The individual keys were found inside envelopes alongside the corpses! In short, all keys related to the linked closed rooms were locked inside the linked closed rooms!!
Never suggests that the key found on Kanon couldn't have been originally placed on Shannon first and picked up by an accomplice, completely removing the requirement that the chapel be locked.

And for good measure addressing the Red truth in episode 2 regarding locked doors:
RED: No trick could have the effect of locking the door from the outside without using a key
This does not preclude someone from faking a door being locked, only that the only way to lock a door from the outside is to use a key.

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>>26786275
>No hints ever suggests that they are a representation of the only working guns.
>Winchester
>chiester
CMON Anon

>The red truth from the VN only bars devices from locking the chapel nothing about locking it from the inside.
why?
they said device
what is a device?
according with the manga is something that closed a door without a key?
is this rigth even in the Vn? who cares Shkanontrice is the manga solution and we confirm that the manga is wrong
but i am happy to figth even a different version of Shkanontrice the important is deny the shit of the manga

>Never suggests that the key found on Kanon couldn't have been originally placed on Shannon first and picked up by an accomplice, completely removing the requirement that the chapel be locked.
This does not preclude someone from faking a door being locked, only that the only way to lock a door from the outside is to use a key.
Yes anon
you have rigth just the chapel was closed accroding with non-accomplices like Kyrie,Rosa and Rudolf.

so your solution like everyone discuss with me is someone fake to open the chapel
the problem is that non-accomplices was in the group who open the chapel

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>>26786784
Shkanontrice is the VN solution as provided in the Our Confession extra in Umineko Saku.
(not the same anon btw)

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>>26786930
This was in our confession too anon
Male-erika was suppose to be yasu

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>>26787006
Pretty sure that is from episode 9.

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>>26787048
Episode 9 is Saku anon

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>>26787069
Episode 9 is Last Note of the Golden Witch, which is separate from Our Confession.

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>>26787112
In this post there is written >>26786930
Saku

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stop replying to him
for the love god and all that is holy

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I want to fall asleep with Kanon-kun in my arms under a big blanket on a cold winter night. I want to wake up and see his cute sleeping face.

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>>26787330
Kill yourself
Stop shitting the thread

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>>26787330
I see a lot of hidden posts. am I missing anything?
arigatou beatoriche-sama!
ganbatte beatoriche-sama!

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>>26787330
how can >>26781075 not find Ange hot? whether you want to dominate her, be dominated by her, or have loving vanilla sex with her, that expression is perfect either way. and this isn't even the original sprite!

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>>26787933
Imagine Ange making that expression while lifting up her skirt for you to see?

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>>26787933
Discord scum arrive and i turn the thread into porn shit
CMON Mods ban them

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>>26786784
>(first point)
I say they represent the gun, but no clues are ever given implying they are the only WORKING guns.
>second point
nothing to reply here.
>third point
The manga never specifically shows the scene when the chapel is opened. Therefore arguing about who opened the chapel and whether or not those present would notice someone like nanjo faking unlocking the door is moot, as neither interpretation can be denied.

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>>26787142
Our Confession is a separate side story included in Saku. Episode 9 is only last note.

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>>26788011
>1st point
Hideyoshi shot after find Rosa
This is a riddle to made us understand that there must be a reason why people check if their rifles works
>2nd point
What is the definition of device?
Boh
>3rd point
>the manga never show
Wait i will check it
>fake unloking a door
What part confirm that is possible?
Knox there must be a proof

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>>26788119
O yes i understand
You are speaking about a beta test of a crime game where George is the culprit and Dlanor publish it because no one find the real truth?
I dont think it is pro Shkanontrice

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>>26788018
I check the manga
There is nothing about the door and here i have 1 question

If Nanjo fake the closed door was part of the trick why dont say a single word about it?

Cmon no a single riddles about this possibility
In the 1st game Kanon and Genji were alone when faked the closed door same for rosa and servants in game 2 according with Shkanontrice
If you can do it why rosa didnt open the chapel with non-accomplices to increse her position

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>>26788018
There is only 1 way to explain the closed room circle for Shkanontrice

This thing on the pic is not a device
But this imply manga is fake + anime is a proof
So both case Shkanontrice lose

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My first meme-solutiom with the manga
I hope you all will enjoy it

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Natsuhi-san is fat! Fat!

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>>26796778
She's been stress eating again, hasn't she?

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>>26797276
She doesn't exercise either, apparently.
Isn't it fascinating that her action doesn't befit an Ushiromiya?
How humiliating! Pathetic! Lewd!

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>>26796778
I genuinely hate the faces this artist does. It's like they learned from the Sweet Pool vn on how to draw the faces.

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>>26796778
I want to give a raspberry on her tummy.

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>>26797614
Yeah, I like her WTC-related stuffs, but the faces she draws look too uncannily manly.

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>>26797590
And yet, she acts so prideful.

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>>26797943
The best part of her.
She might act proud and prideful, but in reality she eats, drinks, pisses and farts too just like the rest of us!
I can't get rid of the sensation that Natshi-san cries and weeps every night that she can't be the perfect lady for the Ushiromiya family, because she is in the end just another lowly human being, not even different from the so-called furnitures!
How pathetic!
No matter how much she tries, she stills has a lewd ass that farts and shits!

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>>26798698
Even going so far as to sleep with the family head!

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>>26796778
man jaw.

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>>26788259
>george is the culprit
This is the solution to a mystery. There is no room for interpretation. Beatrice tells you who her accomplices were, and how she setup the scenes to make it look like magic. In fact, Beatrice even goes out of her way to state that Kannon and Shannon can't be together at the same time and uses Krauss as an alibi for Kanon until Shannon jumps out of the window pretending to get kidnapped.
>But both Shannon and Kanon can't go together, so this part will have to be done carefully.
>A simple story would be... Natsuhi and Shannon go on ahead to the guesthouse while Krauss and Kanon went to get guns for self-defense but are a bit late coming back.
Shannon enters the servants room with the terrified Kumasawa, slips out through the window, and meets up with Krauss.
Not only that, but Beatrice has Kanon leave and disappear and then has Shannon commit suicide ending the murders. Not only that but the mechanism for the suicide is the same as previously used in episode two for Shannon's suicide. As Will says in episode 7 regarding Kanon's corpse, "Illusions to illusions. ...Illusions who have fulfilled their role do not even leave a corpse behind." meaning that Kanon's body does not exist.

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>>26788472
>>26788781
Again the moment the door was open was never shown, not in the manga, anime, or VN, which means arguing about what happened during that period of time is moot since multiple interpretations can exist at the same time with none of them being able to be refuted.
(although the manga may have a logic error which makes arguing any theory based on it moot)

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There you go italianon. It'll be easier for you to solve it now! Please, show the discord trannies the truth!

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>>26789836
I enjoy it, thanks.

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Why the fuck are there so many theories in my Umineko shitpost thread?

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>>26801950
Nothing anon
>>26801686
Fucking based but i saw a meme that fate morgana official translation change words into feminist shit is truth?

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>>26797614
You haven't seen manfaces until you look at Jichan the tranny's drawings.

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>>26800902
>There is no room for interpretation. Beatrice tells you who her accomplices were,
this is the best thing anon

THIS IS A GAME , A BETA YES BUT STILL A GAME.

i what game you saw the solution from the start?
it's all an illusion, like Eva found the gold and Kanon break the chain

>Beatrice even goes out of her way to state that Kannon and Shannon
nope Beatrice only speak with Shannon and doesnt give a shit about kanon

other error
>kumasawa is not aware that the crime is real
Fake since in ep1 krauss had only half of the face

>george go out at nigth to search Shannon
>no one killed him
>didnt find nothing even if in 6 roomes there were corpse
George is fucking useless ..... or maybe

>Shannon jumps out of the window pretending to get kidnapped.
Shannon disappier in the same room with George......CMON

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>>26803844
There's one line in the entire vn that you could consider as that, and it's not even in the main story, it's in an after credits meta get-together for the characters. They translated the word "tsundere" as "fragile male ego" when one of the characters makes fun of another. It makes sense given the context and the character, anyone claiming it was "changed" because of feminism or sjws is full of bullshit and making a problem out of literally nothing. You can argue the word didn't need localization though since it's well-known enough, but that's a completely different conversation. You don't need to worry about anything.

If you want a full breakdown of that single line that sparked fake outrage because of one fag with a youtube channel, you can read it here: https://twitter.com/11rcombs/status/1257799497381445633?s=20

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>>26801456
Nope this have 2 biggest problems

First
Remove all the meaning to 1st twiligth of the 2nd game.
If you can fake a closed door in front innocent people then shkanontrice solution have no sense

2nd: the fake closed door
Yasu reuse this trick 3 times straigth
REPETITION
one of the biggest insult to the reader
Yasu is a mystery novel lover
She could do any trick but this repetition imply she didnt care nothing about mistery

NO LOVE

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>>26804101
Ok i just only worried about the real story because different words = different VN

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Rena into loli arse while Mion isn't interested? Is Mion gay?

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>>26805266
Rena isn't into rori arse. She just thinks the non-disgusting parts of a rori are cute.

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>>26805266
Yeah Mion is gay as fuck for Kei-chan.

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>>26805266
Mion wears a skirt. Of course she's a fag.

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Just checking out the latest thread.
It’s an absolute unreadable mess of Italianon garbage.
Don’t take the bait anymore people.

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Koshka.

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>>26807142
I save the thread from porn spamming fuck off

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>>26807142
Jus ban Umineko discussion to keep the autism away

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>>26807142
Just report him unless there is nothing reportable about the post. There is always something, thankfully. And never, ever reply no matter what he says. He can't even samefag because his English is garbage and his defective brain can't comprehend punctuation in any language.

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>>26807142
I not at fault when people steal my identity.

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>>26808212
Not my fault if your language is shit
Leaen latin faggot also stop shitting the thread

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>>26805266
Rena is into cute things, which means she's also into humiliation. The existence of Satoko's naked arse is incredibly humiliating and would make her blush with shame. That blushing face is hella cute, but Rena can't ever see it unless she exposes Satoko's arse as well.

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>>26807875
There'd be nothing left without Umineko discussion because there's nothing about Higurashi to discuss and basically nobody has played Ciconia.

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10/4-5 is almost upon us
what do you anons have planned?
I wish Higurashi had some specific important days that I could mark on my calendar

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>>26809768
It has, Satoko' birthday and the dates of some Watanagashi's are stated.

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>>26809768
The whole story literally revolves around an annual festival.

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>>26809801
>Satoko never gets to celebrate her 12th birthday
>Tatari Satoko ironically wears her birthday suit in public right before her deathday
Pathetic!

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>>26809801
Birthdays are something different
>>26809830
I said a specific date, just like we have Oct. 4-5 for Umineko. Though I guess third sunday of june is close enough, but it's not like you can just remember "Ah yes, the 21st of June, Watanagashi."

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>tfw the anime exclusive Satoko arc at the beginning of the second season of the anime PREDICTED Gabriel's backstory
Holy shit.

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>>26809881
I think they say an actual date at some point in one of the arcs, so it's possible to know what day of the month it is.

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>>26809958
It's the third sunday of June, so it changes every year.

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>>26809758
>nobody has played Ciconia.
Pretty sure most people who come here have read phase 1, they just think it's kinda shit like i do.

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>>26809758
>>26809986
Both of you are newfags, probably the alleged /v/ tourists from the last thread.

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>>26809872
>birthday suit
That's a good way to put it.
So what would be K1's suitable present?

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>>26810043
Don't call me a newfag, newfag.

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>>26810043
Found the ciconia fag.

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>>26809974
Yeah, but the 5th year of the curse is always the same year, so it should be consistent. They don't even postpone it when it rains.

I believe someone mentioned the actual date of the festival in one of the Matsuribayashi fragments, maybe during one of the curses of the previous years. They said the exact date one of the victims died, I'm not sure if it was the priest or the aunt or what. You can take that day as being the third sunday of june of that year and count until you get to the same sunday in 1983. The day will be different, but you can know the date for sure.

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>>26810043
So true, no wonder it triggered them.

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>>26810110
I'm pretty sure you can find the date if you just look it up. There's so much Higurashi content that I'd be amazed if Ryu07 never mentioned the date.

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>>26809872
It's just panic-inducing involuntary streaking, not public nudity. She wasn't seen by anyone but K1.

[Anonymous No.]

Satoko is zenra! She is zenra! 全裸！

気持ち悪い！The kimochis she gives me are really warui! Hecka warui! I hate those shameful kimochis!

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>Be Ryukishi
>Release a brand new installment of your acclaimed No Naku koro Ni series
>No one cares
>People would rather make another anime adaptation and gacha of your first and best work released 18 years ago
Why does Japan have good taste?

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>>26804101
Anything that isn't a near-literal translation and tries to "round things out" around the edges is suspect, because it usually does it along political-ideological lines. like how Steins;Gate changed instances of "nekomimirorimeido" to "cat-eared maid" because rori is too yikes oof proplematic for western audiences. You can act like you're just "making it more accessible", but in the end it's really soft rewriting according to your political sensibilities. You don't like it when Christians do it to eastern mythological texts, so don't defend it when it's your side doing it.

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>>26810156
She was seen by thousands, millions of people on the internet! Embarassing!

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If you don't like Ciconia you're not a real fan.
Fuck off.
Enjoy your Call of Duty and ecchi anime trash.

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>>26810256
Why is he dressed like a mafia goon? And why is that literal lolee keed reading violent mango?

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>>26810259
>You can act like you're just "making it more accessible", but in the end it's really soft rewriting according to your political sensibilities. You don't like it when Christians do it to eastern mythological texts, so don't defend it when it's your side doing it.
The fuck are you even talking about? None of that is even relevant.
Also the breakdown in the link he posted shows that it's a pretty near-literal translation with 0 ideology behind it.

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>>26810259
>You don't like it when Christians do it to eastern mythological texts, so don't defend it when it's your side doing it.
what?

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>>26810311
It's just the tourists who discovered Umineko recently

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>>26810311
>If you don't like Ciconia you're not a real fan.
What kind of mental illness is this?

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>>26810156
>>26810272
Actually, it's possible she was found by some villager during the outrage that followed the discovery of Rika's body. So she was seen butt-naked and got taken to the clinic, where she was gassed that night. Unlikely because the end scroll lists her as missing, not a casualty of the disaster.

It's possible she wandered into the forest and was found by Takano's men during the operation. She would be too bruised and wounded after running through a dark forest completely butt-naked, so her presence among the victim would make it unbelievable that she died in her sleep. So they probably decided to erase her instead. A bullet pierced her pure white skin and her heart and her corpse got desecrated, burned in secrecy along with all the other rebel villagers with gunshot wounds.

It's possible she was found by the SDF instead after the operation and then poisoned to death in the hospital by a yamainu contact like in the anime exclusive arc.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/8385754
This is what would happen if she wasn't poisoned and just sat there traumatized forever.

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>>26810634
I've run a series of tests, it seems to be a method of cope with underlying effects of seethe.

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>>26810396
maybe it seems like that to someone who doesn't understand japanese, but the breakdown of ツンデレ馬鹿野郎 into
>ツンデレ refers to someone who likes a person, but expresses that affection poorly, and acts cold towards them
>馬鹿 most literally means "idiot" or "moron"
>野郎 is an informal term for a man
is just a little rhetorical parlor trick to make the "fragile male ego" thing seem like a more natural, obvious translation than it really is. 馬鹿野郎 doesn't translate to "male idiot", it's a compound word where 野郎 doesn't function as "man" but only serves as a way to make the connotation more vulgar, the equivalent of turning "idiot" into "damned idiot". So you see, choosing the phrasing "fragile "male" ego" - when "male fragility" is a common feminist term, is an obvious political dig.

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>>26810311
Nerve-hitting truth

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>>26810345
Ryukishi has been dressing in RGD cosplay at least since the early 2010s. And Japanese roris love to read Higurashi, just like they love Neon Genesis Evangelion and other kid-friendly shows made for kids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26810750
>馬鹿野郎 doesn't translate to "male idiot", it's a compound word where 野郎 doesn't function as "man" but only serves as a way to make the connotation more vulgar, the equivalent of turning "idiot" into "damned idiot". So you see, choosing the phrasing "fragile "male" ego" - when "male fragility" is a common feminist term, is an obvious political dig.
They didnt say it functioned as man in the sentence, they said its intesifying and gendering (similar to how bastard or bitch are genderizing words but dont function as male or female in a most uses), but lets say it isnt genderising, you still end up with pretty much the same result. She's addressing a male character as a damned tsundere idiot, which is close enough in meaning and implication to what we got. Also seeing as how it's one line in an entire vn, I doubt pushing feminism was the goal--especially when it's a male character who definately has what I'd call a fragile ego.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811021
Nah, your defense is super weak in that it doesn't account for the unnatural choice the translator made - it just isn't believable that anyone would come up with "fragile male ego" as a go-to translation for that line in that conversation. But I agree insofar as it doesn't color the whole experience. I'd treat it as a less egregious example of the dragon maid dub controversy, where some people who are part of the localization process get bored of being professional and insert some of their ideology into it (maybe they had a bad experience on twitter and felt frustrated, etc.).

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811021
oh, also you lose the meaning of tsundere, which in that situation makes the insult almost endearing. it implies that the character being addressed isn't being honest about his feelings of affection for the speaker, and it carries a soft romantic connotation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811175
I guess at this point it's just a matter of opinion then because it seems fairly natural to me. Ideally, I'd leave tsundere as is, but if I was forced to translate and incorporate it in a short sentence, I don't know how else you really could have gone about it.

On the note of translation/localization, I really hate translations that remove honorifics. It ruins so much for literally no reason. I knew someone who stopped reading Umineko just because there were honorifics, and it still baffles me. I never knew there were people who existed that actually preferred not having them, I always thought it was just retarded publishers who thought it made things accessible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811373
Usually I'd agree on that, but that's not the case here. These two characters dont even know each other outside of the meta after credits scene. He's in love with a different character. She's just mocking him casually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811383
Does the Japanese version of Ciconia have honorifics or not? I think it would be strange if it did. It's such a Japanese concept.

I wonder if the Italians in EP7 use honorifics in Japanese. That's another case where it'd be fucking weird. Having foreigners talk to each other in their native language and representing it in Japanese so the reader can understand is one thing. But actually adding honorifics would make it way too Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811449
u-huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811640
Wait, did they know each other? I thought it was just him, the blonde bitch, and the white haired girl in his part? Maybe my memory is worse than I thought and I should reread it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811640
I find it cringe when translators use italics to emphasize a word. It's almost as bad as professional manga translations bolding completely random words like in American comics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26810662
Damn, Satoko being aware of her nudity is so lewd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811732
As far as I understood it the whole meta-narrative was that him and morgana meet again and again throughout the ages in different incarnations, but they can't seem to find happiness together, sometimes because of self-hatred, trust issues, indifference, and in this story because he's a baka tsundere who obsesses over his work (and I think he didn't want to confess to her until he built the railroad or something?). But it's been a while since I read Fata Morgana as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811804
Don't most just use it for words in katakana? Serves the same function of caps/bold/italics outside of when they're used for borrowed words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811934
>Don't most just use it for words in katakana?
I suppose, but it doesn't quite have the same effect. I can't help but find it cringeworthy because I associate it with cheesy writing. Like when the author is really melodramatic or not skilled enough to emphasize an idea organically without resorting to italics.

I also dislike it because I tend to save text (fan fiction for example) in plan text files because it's objectively the best and least cumbersome format. So anything written in italics becomes plain text and whatever the author intended to emphasize with it is lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811917
yep my memory is definitely fucked then

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812152
could it be you didn't actually finish it? the white-haired girl resolution is one of the "false" good ends you can get before you even get to the later doors I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812208
just like you can not find out the maids history and just stay in the mansion forever. the story has a variety of "they don't recognize who they are but they're still together forever" bittersweet resolutions

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812208
Nah I definately finished it. I shilled it to friends, got the collector's edition after a while, still listen to the soundtrack and feel sad. My memory has always been shit, but I thought I'd at least be able to remember one of my favourite vns better. Makes me wonder if I need to go back and reread some others...

[Anonymous No.]

Too tired to explain why but your heart should explain why you should vote for someone beautiful and perfect like Rosa
https://07th-expansion.net/party/event.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812350
I'm going to keep voting for Luci-nee!! Someday she'll notice me.
Sorry Rosa, but I have priorities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812350
I've been voting for Nina and Yoko-chan. Rosa a whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26811631
>I wonder if the Italians in EP7 use honorifics in Japanese. That's another case where it'd be fucking weird. Having foreigners talk to each other in their native language and representing it in Japanese so the reader can understand is one thing. But actually adding honorifics would make it way too Japanese.
Omitting honorifics is removing a part of the language. The information that is conveyed through honorifics and keigo (like rank, since it's a military context) would still be present, in a different way, in the language that they're supposed to have spoken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812388
>calls Rosa a whore
>votes for a literal whore and a preteen kid who was photographed in the toilet and humiliated for it
Rosa's pussy has only been seen by her husband and a couple other men. Not dozens upon dozens as an underage girl. She's much less of a whole than any of those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812388
How was nina even in the steets for so long without a stranger offering her candy and selling her into sexual slavery?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812327
You should! There's a lot of subtext you only notice when you already know how most of the puzzle pieces fit together, and the translation is generally pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26813074
>lmslao
Humiliating and lolipilled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26813074
I hope there is a God so he can sit down with these faggots and red-truth them to hell with every stupid fucking thing they've ever said under this indoctrinated mental state.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26813514
Laughing my shameful loli ass off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26813588
>only our concept of time makes it possible for us to speak of the Day of Judgment by that name - in reality it is a summary court in perpetual session
but yes, the idea of intellectually raping ideologues, forcing them to confront the contradictions in their worldview, denying the very core of their self-conception at a conceptual level is a nice fantasy.

[Anonymous No.]

Who's hyped for Higurashi's new anime next week?
I hope it will not be too focused on the gore part and will takes time to develop the characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26814263
I like this image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812562
This is why it's a bad idea to use the toilet at school. Just wait until you get home, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

Sextoko has some competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26814263
Would Rena frequent the 7th thread on /jp/ since she likes to collect trash?

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there so many transphobic chuds in those threads. This is so weird considering Ryukishi's attitude to the LGBTQ+ folks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26814981
Right-wing fans and deniers who liked Higurashi Ryu07 since but won't accept that he obviously supports LGBTQ+.
There're people here denying the fact that Yasu is male (lmao).

[Anonymous No.]

>>26815184
Lmao seems like I made a typo.
I meant "fans who liked Ryu07 since Higurashi".

[Anonymous No.]

>>26814981
>>26815184
>>26815310
Stop talking to yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26814919
she'd think we're kyute for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26815376
Rent-free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26814826
Satoko is superior because she feels human. This bitch is just an anime roree. Who is even writing her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26805266
>tfw a murder of crows literally ate Rika's butt before Rena
Cucked by birds.

[Anonymous No.]

How did those guys explain the death of Rika to the prime minister? Did they tell him Irie cut open her corpse like a sick fuck? They ruined his image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26815720
Just like her father.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26815805
"Wtf it just happened overnight."

[Anonymous No.]

>>26815468
Why are there so many hateful, intolerant ideologues on 07ths discords? This is so weird considering Ryukishi's stance on empathy and communication.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26814263
Cant wait 13 weeks of total manifesto spamming

[Anonymous No.]

>>26816344
It's not Umineko that's getting a new adaptation or being discussed you narcissistic cancerous outgrowth

[Anonymous No.]

>>26816698
Cant miss this opportunity
Japanese will follow the threads too

[Anonymous No.]

>>26816063
They are mentally ill and proud of it. No empathy whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.]

Name one (1) thing you like about 7th general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
creative shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
Erikantrice manifesto

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
Unironically humiliation posting. That's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
Naturally Erikantrice

[Anonymous No.]

>>26818155
I meant "ironic shitposting".

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
Reading humiliation posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
You

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
Rosaposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
Humiliation anon and Nina anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26819114

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
07, not 7. The zero is supposed to be the "rei" in Reina, the series mascot.

Ryuukishi, not Ryukishi. The 竜 in 竜騎士07 is りゅう, not りゅ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26819918
Ryuukishi is such a nerd that he named himself "dragon knight reinana" because Reina/Lenna from FF5 is his waifu. Reina from Higurashi is based on her and K1 looks very similar to the MC's sprite (forget those ugly as fuck emo Amano artworks, they don't really represent their personalities and were nowhere to be found in the SNES original).

[Anonymous No.]

Telling Satoko everything will be alright while forcibly fucking her in the mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
Unironically: Edit anons, there's something good every now and then. (Second contender: Ciconia theorizing)

Ironically: shitposting obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>26820651
I appreciate that. I haven't done much lately, but it's always nice to see anyone enjoying what I've made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
Edit anon (OG Higurashi sprites and Ciconia).

Humiliation anon.

Black humiliation anon.

Humiliation anon (casually racist towards chinks).

Those four are the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
>>26821737
Mystery anon was great, way back when.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26821518
Do you have your edits in a folder somewhere? I think I'm missing a few.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26821737
Black humiliation anon is the same as Ciconia theory anon. He specializes in hellish scenarios such as virtual Heck, kidnappings and dental torture. Also Naima buttrape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26822612
Wait, there's only one Ciconia theory anon? I could have sworn there were like three.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26822426
I need to organize one better. So far they're all just dumped together without proper sorting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26822743
There is also another disciple of the OG humilianon that is kind of another Ciconianon and theorizes about Lingji being a nudist commie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26822926
Well, but that's not really a theory, it's just the logical consequence of Marxian ablation of the separation between the public and the private spheres. In other words, an incontrovertible fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26822926
What if they put Lingji buttsweat in your Cocu Cola?

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if there'll be in-fighting between allied nations. I could see Momotake being an agent sent out to humiliate that chink and repeat the rape of Nanking. If he's serious about his nationalism and love for ancient Japan, he's gotta hate those damn chinks. He's just pretending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26823144
>an incontrovertible fact
"Ephraim sauntered..."

[Anonymous No.]

>>26780239
>And the mad kid said:
>"gimme the [blonde]
>Gimme the [blonde]
>Gimme the [blonde]"

[Anonymous No.]

>>26823623
>wiggling his buttock-augmentation. Life couldn't get any better. This, he knew, was due to an incontrovertible fact:
>Naked asses are the final equalizer. Everyone's got an ass and, if honestly appraised, they all look ridiculous.
SUGOI

[Anonymous No.]

>>26823383
Due to growing up and living in the extremely polluted A3W China, Lingji's sweat is carcinogenic.

[Anonymous No.]

dying a cancer riddled man with my wife lingji

[Anonymous No.]

>>26828548
>my wife
Communists don't get to own anything, much less their wife.

[Anonymous No.]

thank you for the pickles

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
The anon who exposes /v/ tourists

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
well uh, 7 is my favourite number

[Anonymous No.]

discuss

[Anonymous No.]

>>26814263
nani? reverse image search gives me nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26831333
Cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26831608
It was one of the submission for /a/ draws, weeks ago. Here is the ongoing thread >>>/a/209125909

[Anonymous No.]

>>26832466
so we don't even know who the artist is? what a shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26809768
>what do you anons have planned?
I'm planning for it to slip my mind entirely

[Anonymous No.]

You guys really like Satoko, don't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26833257
id say shes my least favorite of the main cast

[Anonymous No.]

>>26833257
satoko is for pranks, head pats and squash-feeding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26833257
Satoko is for sweet tender niinii-love only

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991
1st Rena, 2nd Humiliation anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26833257
Of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26833257
It's a yin/yang relationship for me where half of me wants to lewd and humiliate her, but the other half of me really wants to protect and care for her like a daughter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26838079
>not humiliating her through anonymous online burakkumeiru and then comforting her IRL pretending you don't know what she's forced to do in private

[Anonymous No.]

>>26838246
>ntr yourself and enjoy both the pleasure of corrupting rori and seeing her try to hide the pain and resist the temptation because she love you
how has this not been done yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26838246
>>26838319
There is a really long and well-written story about this. Basically a guy blackmails his preteen sister online and then, as the blackmailer, he orders her to seduce her brother and "force" him to help with her humiliations. Eventually he reveals the truth to her and they sort of become blackmail buddies targeting her bitchy classmates and other cunts she hates. This leads to some fucked up shit from EP2 onwards that causes them a lot of guilt.

I read it for the lewds, stayed for the characters and the plot.

[Anonymous No.]

cool new portishead album coming out

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm37568518
Someone who's fluent in Japanese tell the retarded Japanese fcks that you can go up to chapter 14 in the new trial version of Ciconia.

Im so fcking done using translation explaining it to these ignorant fools.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26840508
Yeah I believe you can go until when Jestress removed her mask in the new demo

[Anonymous No.]

>>26812350
la bruja negra

[Anonymous No.]

>>26844047
I want to marry Rosa and raise Maria in a proper, loving way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26846147
Rosa is a whore! Whore!

[Anonymous No.]

>>26844047
I love her so much I really do wish Rosa were my mom

[Anonymous No.]

>>26817991

[Anonymous No.]

>>26810256
The whole vn industry is collapsing anyway, a super popular doujin work like Tsukihime or Higurashi is no more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26810634
Autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>26838537
Sounds based.
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26810311
I liked Ciconia especially after my reread, but I could probably genuinely say that this claim is retarded asf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26848272
It's called 'having good fucking taste'.
>>26848944
Speak for yorself, Higucel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26850187
>Speak for yorself, Higucel.
???
You dont know me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26848452
My Private Camwhore by AnonyMPC. Has 4 installments so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26850940
Thanks a lot, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Higurashi for the girls, Umineko for the action, Ciconia for the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26851173
>Umineko for the action
You read Umineko for the action anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26851351
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26851173
>Umineko for the action
You read Umineko just for the action anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26852228
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26848237
God I feel like a boomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>26810662
This is so depressing it's lewd.

[Anonymous No.]

Best to worst puzzle (from what we've seen so far)
>ciconia
>umineko
>higurashi

Best to worst story (if you like high highs and don't mind low lows)
>umineko
>higurashi
>ciconia

Best to worst story (if you prefer stable quality)
>higurashi
>umineko
>ciconia

[Anonymous No.]

had a funny thought and had to make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26854495
Very funny thank for sharing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26851173
>>26853852
How about making a constructive criticism post, rather than this shit you're posting.
Back to twitter you go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26854495
<S-see you again...>

[Anonymous No.]

>>26855200
I'm gonna treat this shitty general as a shitty general. What're you gonna do about it?

[Anonymous No.]

Umineko for the witch goddesses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26850981
What was the post?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26858032
Look it up.

[Anonymous No.]

I love Rosa, I wish she were my mom, my life would be so much better

Vote for Rosa right now
https://07th-expansion.net/party/event.html

[Anonymous No.]

Will ciconia be a let down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26861082
It already is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26861330
I haven't played it, is there still potential for it get better?

[Anonymous No.]

Season 4 was kino. Whoever told me it was shit must be insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26861383
It's already pretty solid.
A better start than Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26861383
Not very likely for me. Ciconia is in some way the epitome of what I dislike in R07's writing and world building. The story feels disjointed and "confusing" most of the time. There are way too many characters and you keep jumping locations all the time which makes you feel disconnected from the plot as a whole. You spend 15 hours reading about these characters and you hardly feel like you know anything about them or why you should care. There's a lot of world politics and "conspiracy theories" mystery which I personally find very dull compared to the supernatural classic feel of the first entries in Higurashi and Umineko. The OST is also a huge downgrade compared to Umineko. To sum it up Higu and Umi grabbed me by the mid point I was reading their first chapters, with Ciconia I was forcing myself to read because I simply didn't care much for what was happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26861976
I agree about there being too many characters and the OST being a downgrade (though I still like it) but other than that I disagree entirely. Could you elaborate on why you find the plot confusing? I found it pretty easy to follow.

[Anonymous No.]

Comrade Mario backwards long jumping back to Italy, destroying all the trannomachines in the process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26861383
It's already good. I feel like half the people who hate it just don't have perspective, they're comparing ciconia part 1 to higurashi/umineko several parts in.
Ciconia part 1 was already very enjoyable but more importantly it has very good leads from which to develop the story, characters and mystery further.

[Anonymous No.]

You see Battler it's very simple. Kinzo gave the main family western names and the ability to wear the crest of the one winged eagle, but um don't be mistaken! Kanon and I have simply have western names because we're orphans from his orphanage, it's what we do as servants and we wear the one winged eagle because we're furniture.

And Genji-san is furniture too, uh, um, he has a Japanese name because Kinzo hadn't really gotten into the whole gimmick of giving the main family Japanese names.

And Natsuhi is a Ushiromiya but like, not really, and she's not a servant, so she has a Japanese name.

Speaking of western names, what country does the name "Battler" come from? It's french, right? Sounds pretty french. Gotta be french.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26862715
Monsieur Bôuttler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26862715
Anyways this is the detective who sometimes comes to visit as flotsam, she's very japanese which you can tell from her name, Erika.

Her dress is what Jessica wore as a child. It doesn't have the one winged eagle on it, but, uh, I guess Kinzo-san just sort of decided to make the one winged eagle a thing at the conference. Maybe it was Rosa's decision because of how some trendy stores make clothing seem better by putting a silly logo on them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26780632
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>26813588
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>26862715
Imo Battler's name comes from battle + r, which signifies profession.
That means battler is a person who battles.
This also supported by the kanji in his name, which are 戦=battle + 人= person.
I don't know if the world battler in english even exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26815376
seethe harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>26862986
Erika's pathetic naked corpse washing up on the beach of Rokkenjima for the whole family to see. Humiliating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26863207
I’ve read into the kanji before. I think doing so as an EOP is a waste in a story whose third person narrator can’t stop taking jabs at pseudes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26831333
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26863919
That's Evatoreeche, not Naima's literal arse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26861976
agreed, it had some cool individual scenes but as a whole it felt like R07 was throwing as much bullshit as possible just to fuck with the reader, (like literally 60% of the characters having multiple personalities? come the fuck on). You could kind of get the same feeling in Umineko but not nearly to the same extent. Also the character and dialogue writing was Ryukishi at his lowest, Jayden might be the cringiest character he's ever written.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26866403
>Jayden might be the cringiest character he's ever written.
Opinion discarded. Jayden is literally me and I'm an alright guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26866744
are you five years old?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26863207
Also, the funny thing with the name Battler is that each letter is the first letter of the Episodes :
B Banquet of the Golden Witch
A Alliance…
T Turn…
T Twilight…
L Legend…
E End…
R Requiem…
It doesn't work with Dawn, though.
It's more likely to be a great coincidence but it fits too good. Especially, because Ryukishi planned that Umineko would have 6 Episodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26866403
Jayden's cringiness is part of his character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26780632
I just checked this out and it’s the most important contribution to these threads

[Anonymous No.]

Spoilers for Ciconia, Umi, Higu.
You guys should stop the comparisons between Ciconia and Umineko. No, Ciconia won't be able to compete with Umineko because they're completely different scenarios, and obviously because one is complete and the other is not.
First, Ciconia isn't a murder mystery like Higurashi or Umineko, it's a mystery set in a sci-fi world. In Phase 1 Ryukishi explained how this world works, he explained almost all technologies and rules that support the A3W world, that's why there was so much world building instead of character development. This was necessary and very well done.
R07 mentioned in an interview that Ciconia aims for both mystery readers who want to solve it or those that do not, and that's already a big difference from Umineko, that urges you to solve it. You can't even understand Umineko completely without reading with someone who does, and even with the manga there's people still debating the truth like Italianon. This most likely isn't going to happen with Ciconia.
About the personality disorder, do you guys really think Ryukishi is such a bad writer he will create bullshit plots that uses characters or devices that never were presented in the story? Relevant personalities were already presented in the story, and if you're going to base your theories around them, they are: Meow, Chloevil, "Naima", MIYAO and Rukhi. No way every CPP will have dominant personalities like them, that's like expecting Ciconia to have 4 Phases with 50 characters or so.
And for the last but not least difference, both Umineko and Higurashi were closed cases that gave us clear questions. Onikakushi ends and you already know what you should be asking yourself: Why are people going crazy? Is Oyashiro-sama real? If not, what's causing it? Umineko ep 1 ends and you ask yourself: who's killing people in Rokkenjima, is Beatrice real? Ciconia ends... and what do you ask yourself? There's no clear question to be made, and the motive for it is that Phase 1 ends in a cliffhanger to Phase 2 instead of a "world ended scenario, let's review what happened and find out why". And I personally like this difference, but most people addicted to When They Cry wouldn't.
That is why I think, if you're asking yourself if you should or not read Ciconia, don't think you'll be having a similar experience to Umineko or Higurashi. Instead, think along the lines of RGD and Higanbana. Even more so because Ciconia seems to delve in a lot of topics that were discussed in RGD in Higanbana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26870208
Didn't read lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>26870386
Understandable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26870208
I agree with most of what you said and it begs the question why does Ciconia even need to be related to WTC? Why couldn't it have been a stand alone VN? The references and callbacks to Umi and Higu could easily not have been there. To be honest it really feels like the WTC moniker is attached to it because R07 knows that people recognize it and all his projects except for Higu/Umi are kinda ignored in comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26870208
you can compare ciconia and umineko in terms of writing and characters, and when it comes down to it ciconia is clearly a downgrade, even if you only look at episode 1 and phase 1

when it comes down to it the dialogue and writing is a huge factor, and i think that ciconia is really the worst when it comes to that, everyone just comes off as completely robotic and lifeless, all having the same voice, it's like ryukishi seemed to think that putting emojis into dialogue or ending/starting every sentence with a verbal tic constitutes as character voice

i have read RGD, Umineko, and Higurashi (albeit it's been a long time since I finished higurashi), and i don't remember any of R07's games being as bad as ciconia with this

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Who is R07's most interesting villain?
And why is it Gabriel?

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>>26870695
Easily the tranny.

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>>26869059
Many have speculated D stands for "Dear", in short: D(ear) Battler

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>>26870590
I can agree with you about using WTC moniker to express the topics that were discussed in RGD/Higanbana and giving them more recognition. However, that is only with Phase 1 in mind. I think it's possible he'll expand WTC's metaworld lore in Ciconia, that's why there's so many callbacks, yeah I can see this happening.
>>26870607
To be fair, Witch Hunt's translation of Ciconia wasn't the best, but I can see where you're coming from. The emoji thing probably was just a thing R07 thought would be nice in a futuristic scenario where kids are MCs. But yeah, writing- wise there was so much repetition of words and some characters feels lifeless for sure: the ACR trio, Abdou and Ishak, Stan and Naomi are some I personally find frustrating. But I was talking more about the scenario and plot than about characters and style of writing when I wrote that wall of text.

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>>26862715
I get you're joking but it's obvious why Natsuhi doesn't have a Western name because she married into the family and it was already a political marriage where Kinzo was the weaker side, no way you're convincing her to change her name.

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>>26872013
I have no clue what you're talking about. Ryuukishi never repeats himself. Repetition is just something you will never find in a 07th expansion VN. There's no thematic significance to going in circles or repeating things in 07th expansion novels. That's why there's never any repetition in Ryuukishi works. Can you point out any single instance of repetition in a 07th expansion novel? You can't, because there is no repetition.

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Whore!

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>>26872013
>>26870607
I think, the fact that they have the same voice and that they have to differentiate themselves with verbal tic or emoji, is to show us that they are talking through a chat, and that most of the dialogue, in the story, are going through machine translation (that might still not be perfect on the AW3 era), making the dialogue kinda dull and doesn't translate the personality off your interlocutor.
I think that's what Ryukishi tried to show us, that technologies/science (in some extend) cannot translate everything perfectly (if the simulation theory is true).

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>>26872417
It's only natural, finding repetition in a 07thexpansion novel is like trying to move a puppet without strings

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>>26872417
He does repeat or overuse some expressions in his works.
Like the one >>26873493 is referencing amongst many.

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>>26870695
Wang or Taggano.

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>>26872417
Repetition is like the whole theme of Higurashi and Umineko, are you retarded?

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>>26873715
It's enough to make me cry.

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They are communicating mentally online, so the emojis are very fitting. They aren't literally speaking words out loud through their avatars. People will have typing quirks even if they are doing it with their mind.

Jayden being goofy is just his personality, and I think it's a breath of fresh air. Him being a pushover cuck with literal mental filters is a result of growing up in a nation invaded by extreme SJW ideologies.

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>>26872696
>the fact that they have the same voice and that they have to differentiate themselves with verbal tic or emoji, is to show us that they are talking through a chat, and that most of the dialogue, in the story, are going through machine translation (that might still not be perfect on the AW3 era), making the dialogue kinda dull and doesn't translate the personality off your interlocutor
How come so many people miss something so obvious?

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>>26872696
>>26874177
>dude it's written like shit on purpose lmao
idk man, this sounds like a massive cope to me

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>>26874733
especially when you consider the fact that the dialogue problems even happen when the characters are not in a virtual chatroom

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>>26872013
fwiw i read ciconia in japanese and the problems are still there, though Witch Hunt's translation is undoubtedly shit, no doubt they were rushed due to the simultaneous release

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Natsuhi is-

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>>26875321
Erika's mother

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>>26874177
>>26872696
This is as dumb as writing a novel where the characters are literal robots and when people shit on it because it's dull and lifeless you say
>b-but it makes perfect sense bro, they're robots so their dialogue is lifeless, the characters have no growth or personality on purpose it's genius!

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Yasu naizuri

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>>26875321
not wearing a bra.

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>>26874177
People talk like Phase 1 is the only thing we'll ever get out of Ciconia. This whole discourse is going to get old as hell as soon as the next Phase drops.

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>>26875487
If the payoff is good I don't really see the problem with this. It's not like Phase 1 was a void with zero setup.

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>>26810311
This was never more true.

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>>26876814
Plus, he started the conception of Ciconia in 2015 or so. He really thought out the plot and do a lot of research.

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Ciconia is the result of R07 getting into Girls und Panzer but forgetting that japanese girls pretending to be foreigners will always be cuter than actual real gaijins.

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>>26878381
>japanese girls pretending to be foreigners
He got it right in Umineko.

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Batallador Blanco

Jorge Gordo

Satoko en pelotas

Lingji chinita

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I like after not coming to these threads after a year, absolutely nothing has changed in the absolutely awful threads and posters. These generals will forever be a permanent stain on the 07th community.

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>>26880765
>These generals will forever be a permanent stain on the 07th community
Discord trannies are much worse.

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>>26881014
From my knowledge Discord trannies is just a strawman used as an argument to try to justify their awful shitposting.

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>>26881090
pretty much. I actually have quite a few friends who I talk about Umineko on discord with. Granted it's mostly DMs rather than communities, but even so. There's no reason to strawman a messaging program so much.

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>>26880765
Can you point out a better public community? I would say the quality varies pretty wildly between threads. Usually Erikantrice / Humiliation anon spamming drives away smarter posters for a while, with the exception of timeless ancientfags who have been here since the beginning and will be here until the end of time. (I, of course, belong in this extolled caste.)

It used to be you could have good discussions on AnimeSuki or Rokkenjima with the likes of Renall, but those days are long gone, and this is the closest thing to public daily 07th expansion posting I've been able to find.

I believe we need to either create a new community or work to improve the quality of discussion here back to the heights we reached in the fabled era of the mysteryanon, now lost deep in the mists of time. Hard, but surely doable if enough people are willing to work on it.

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>>26881828
>Humiliation anon spamming drives away smarter posters for a while
But humiliation anons are the smarter posters.

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>>26881828
Honestly since these threads went to shit and Rokkenjima died, there has been no where to discuss anything.

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>>26881828
>smarter postwr
You mean pedos who spamming their porn shit

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>>26861383
the ending is fantastic so i would assume yes

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>>26881828
Unironically make a discord

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>>26881933
No, they're just the most bored.

>>26885036
Even porn can have good discussion when it's not all shitposting.

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Erika is reddit. That is all.

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>>26804101
There's a strong dichotomy here that I can't really disagree with either side. On one hand, it's just one line. Preventing yourself from enjoying an entire piece of literature because of an insignificant part can be quite disingenuous. Life comes with a lot of options that might have one aspect you're not going to like, to ignore them is the same as not living.

On the other hand, >>26810259 has a point. It's a soft rewrite, basically distilling the original meaning through the subjectivity of the translators moral code, something we can all live without. If a person were to refuse to read this out of that mere principle, as insignificant as on line might be, I can't really help but respect that point of view. It's what a professional translator should do: keep his biases out of the translation as much as possible.

But then again, the anime and manga industries in the west are not professional businesses. So, what to do?

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So do you guys think RGD is for or against nationalism? I'm in the middle of Season 3 and it's leaving me kind of confused as to what side the game is on. Primavera goes on about promoting Japanese Culture in order to restore pride to their race and leave a better future to their descendants, but at the same time I feel like it also shows that people in Japan do not care about culture unless it can turn a profit with the onions sauce wars. So is it saying that Primavera's ideals are bullshit?

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>>26888184
Erika is Kanon. That's all

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>>26888123
>porn discussion on a blue board
Fuck off degenerate

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>>26895796
Trash

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>>26897146
Because there are no 07th expansion threads on other boards.

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>>26881828
>good discussions on AnimeSuki or Rokkenjima with the likes of Renall
>Renall
What the FUCK dude. Renall is a self-proclaimed SJW and also an emotionally stunted autistic asshole that does nothing but criticized Ryuukishi's works at every opportunity. He only reads these novels to call them shit at every turn. He's anti-fun and only seems to care about the prose, not giving a fuck about the message or the story or anything else. He only reads to make himself look like an intellectual cunt. He's a stick in the mud and I have no idea why people tolerate his vitriolic garbage.

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>>26875391
I wonder whether Erik(c)a is an anagram of Beatrice (plus removing BET). A rice

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>>26888184
Erika is 2010s internet atheism

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It was only natural.

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>>26900372
I wonder whether Kinzo's name is an anagram of Zonk (removing the 'i'). Makes you think.

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>>26892247
As the person who made the second point, just let me clarify my position a bit:
Obviously translator are just human, and they'll sometimes get tired of being professional, they'll have a bad day and that will seep into their translation. It's fine, it's not a big deal, especially when it's seemingly just one line in a 50 hour VN.
The problem is that, when this one such clear instance of political nonsense was pointed out, the translator hid behind "haha, you just don't understand the intricacies of my work, plebes,. let me break that down for you...", their political allies rallied behind them and framed the people who made the observation as being paranoid sexists, and even their publisher backed them up.
The single line of dialogue doesn't "ruin the experience", by any means read Fata Morgana, but the way the fan reaction to it was handled should make you distrust the people involved with it and seriously re-consider whether you want to support their localization efforts, because with the kind of attitude they have demonstrated their agenda-pushing can easily get worse (in terms of what content they push forward into translation, what they refuse to localize, not just how they go about localization.) Basically: I don't want political activists in an editorial position.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Golden Fantasia good?
And how does it fit into the canon?

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>>26902507
Yes, and I say this as someone who can't stand traditional fighting games with all those awkward button presses and shit. Princess Mode in hard difficulty is great.

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What classes do you guys play in video games and DnD?

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>>26903174
The detective!

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>>26903302
As much as I would love to play the detective, it isn't a class.

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>>26903302
[GOOD]

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>>26903389
Is this game actually any good?

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>>26903492
I like the way it handles narration (various aspects of your mind argue with each other, becoming more or less pronounced depending on how you distribute your skillpoints), and the core themes (facing ones past, owning up to ones mistakes vs moving on) are well executed. you can play as a nazi, a commie, a capitalist or a moralfag, and the absurdities of ideological excess are well portrayed imo. It's also quite funny.

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>>26900883
That's wrong. Remove the Z and you'll get Kino.

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Miguel is an underrated character.

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>>26905353
Nah. He's an awesome character. It's just that all villains in RGD are top notch

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>>26872417
based repetition post.

[Anonymous No.]

Who else here loves Featherine?

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>>26905882
I know people have done good LPs of Higu and Umi but has anyone done one of RGD?

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>>26870607
That's what I felt too on my first read, but not on my reread. The characters that stick to me the most are the AOU faction, which is probably the most focused group in the first phase. But even then, those characters are still on the 'grey area', meaning you cant tell what they really are/their true goals/their position in the story/etc. (Jaden in the last scene) and I felt that was very intentional.
Remember how Umineko ep 1 felt? I think a lot of people also shitted ep 1 on its release the same reason as you pointed out with Ciconia, after they just freshed out of Higurashi.

Also, read this interview for more reference - https://0707toshokan.wordpress.com/2019/10/13/famitsu-special-interview/

>Ryukishi: We are planning Ciconia to be four arcs in total, and this first arc contains a lot of information. Lots of themes and things to think about… It’s like “exploring” a dungeon. I left a lot of room to do so. Usually, in the first arc, I am focusing on presenting setting and characters, and the story starts out pretty slow. In Higurashi, an incident doesn’t occur until the first 150.000 characters. In terms of a normal light novel, it would be roughly1.5 volumes until something happens (laughing). In Ciconia, it feels like it’s Episode 3 or 4 of Umineko. Before we could think things like “It would be a waste to throw this away, so let’s put it somewhere in arc 2 or 3”, but now we decided to put everything in arc 1. That’s why the volume of text increased.

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Drill instructors make themselves hated by the recruits so they have a common enemy and bond more easily, that way they'll cooperate with each other, trust each other and never keep dangerous grudges that could result in tragedy in the middle of combat. You can see how well it works when the AOU GK's stop bickering and join together to hate the bastard. Okonogi is not sadistic and will NOT turn evil in Ciconia. He's just looking out for their best interest and filtering out the talentless ones that would surely melt down in battle and get themselves killed. Those should just quit the army.

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>>26906531
Narnith left it unfinished at the best part and nuked his channel.

Sobata's LP is great.

There are some others but they are in Russian.

Pretty much all of them loved RGD.

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>>26906971
I didn't watch Narnith's playthrough, just his Umineko one which is how I was exposed to the PS3 additions since I played completely vanilla. I never heard of Sobata but I might look into it.

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>>26906927
>Remember how Umineko ep 1 felt? I think a lot of people also shitted ep 1 on its release
Exactly. I still regularly see people on Umineko/Higurashi threads who say they dropped or almost dropped Umineko after the first or second episode. You don't see anything of what's liked about Umineko in the first part of the story I think it's very possible that it'll be similar for Ciconia.

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>>26906928
>He's just looking out for their best interest and filtering out the talentless ones that would surely melt down in battle and get themselves killed
Forget about getting killed in battle, they straight up using kids for inhumane experiments..

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>>26872417
>instead of painstakingly spicing papers with conditionals, specifiers, examples, secondary related arguments and the like to hit my wordcounts, I could have just repeated the same point over and over again all this time

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>>26906531
Given the channel name, Rosematter has an obligation to play RGD desu. Anyway, I don't really care to see another Umineko let's play that much, at most I would have liked a Jokrono or Narnith readthrough of Saku.

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>>26907594
I don't care that much too since after enjoying Jokrono, every other playthrough is just downhill.

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>>26907290
Umm.. Except he used those alternatives that you mentioned, plus the repetition of course.
A good example would be the use of 'Wall of peace' which could sound really tiring when hearing it most of the time in a English sentence, but not much when it's in Japanese (平和の壁) , which is swift and just flows fittingly even if repeated imo.

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>>26906480
I do love her because of how high she looks to other people, but I find her character a bit too overkill.I am more into Claire, personnaly

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>>26906480
>Lambda looks like the manga/anime design of Miyoko
>Featherine looks like the manga/anime design of Nomura
What did he mean by this? Is Nomura Featherine's real piece? She's a mastermind that gets away with fucking everything no matter what happens to Takano.

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>>26907624
I kinda enjoyed Jokrono because of their in-depth knowledge about the mystery genre- no, stories in general. But they vastly lack knowledge about the Otaku culture in general, which makes some scenes really cringy when reading it with them.
And the voices that they used on the characters and nuances in reading lines are really off point most of the times.

Some other genuine Umineko playthrough I enjoyed are from ダスト (dust-san) and へいん (hein from Niconico douga) which are pretty good. Both tried to solve Umineko by releasing theory videos and stuff. Though Hein did got wrecked by the Kanon/Shannon tricked until ep 6.

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>>26906927
Reading that interview makes me feel it's not going to get better.

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>>26909015
Can't tell you yet

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished Ciconia and it's KINO.
Will Ryukishi finally surpass his Magnum Opus Umineko?

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>>26909532
Dont think it can surpassed it.
I dont even care about. I just want the tale to be as great as all his other WTC series.
That I'm satisfied with.

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>>26907624
Nah, it was a good LP, the gimmick of two person co-commentary, one questioner - one questioned, and voicing every character was fun and refreshing, but it was also held back by that format. You can't engage the same way with a story when you're reading it with a friend who has expectations for you as you do what you're reading it on your own and for yourself, and to add to that Jokrono a) has a kind of "professional radio broadcaster" attitude that causes him not to pursue philosophical/ideological questions in-depth and b) from the outset, set up expectations for himself (with the whole way he presented himself as a Sherlock in training) that he needed to meet, and to me it seems obvious that he looked up, at the very least, hints to inform his reasoning so he wouldn't make a fool of himself, which becomes pretty annoying once you pick up on it (all the possibilities he should consider if he were reasoning things out blindly but inexplicitly brackets). Narnith is a good control group of what an intelligent, perceptive reader would be capable of reasoning-wise, all the rabbit-holes of possibility you can get lost in, the key details you wouldn't naturally pick up on and remember several hours later even if you did note them at the time.
I just meant that I'd still really enjoy a Jokrono Saku let's play, where b) wouldn't be too much of an issue. And holy shit I hope they read RGD one day, I want to see the mental gymnastics when Ryukishi starts talking about national sovereignty and passing down your cultures values and traditions so badly.

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>>26909532
>>26909669
Umineko is magnus opus because of witches and meta prove me wrong. Also with not being able to prove me wrong means denying witches completely its italiantier of reasoning.

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>>26909669
That's a seasoned opinion if I ever heard one.

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>>26909841
And opinions like this are just pure toxic. >>26909532

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>>26910005
Opinions like this are just pure toxic.

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>>26907120
Idk about that I really like ep1, in fact I like it more than most of Chiru.

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>>26910384
Now that's just contrarianism!

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>>26910460
dont fall for the bait

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>>26906927
>Ryukishi: People often misunderstand this, but my works are not the manifestation of my own thoughts.
kek, I still can't get over this sentence

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Speaking of Jokrono, does anybody know why they haven't continued their Ciconia videos? Are they just not aware that the new demo goes up until chapter ~14? Or are they waiting to upload after Matsuri? I haven't watched all their new videos yet so maybe I've missed something.

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>>26910460
>>26910665
It's not bait or contrarianism. In Ep1 there's no meta, no epik shounen hype scenes. You are like Battler and the cousins, stuck in an Island where mysterious fucked up killings are happening. I really like how immersive and "simple" it is.

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>>26910917
they dropped some "should we tell people about ciconia?" "maybe" lines, and their more hardcore fans would have pestered them about it for sure, so yea, they know and they have some reason for not continuing the LP.

[Anonymous No.]

Naima spreading her ass cheeks for her muslim husbando.

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>>26880765
Why are you complaining about a thread you supposedly don't go to?

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>>26911274
Islam forbids sodomy.

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>>26903174
I wish I had friends to play DnD with

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>>26910906
It's funny how in the same paragraph Ryukishi just casually namedrops the trolley problem. Seems he's been reading some interesting stuff while preparing for Ciconia.

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>>26880765
You're wrong, this is undoubtedly the best place to discuss 07th works I've ever experienced and it's not even close.

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>>26910005
How deranged do you have to be to describe a post essentially saying "I really enjoyed this" as "pure toxic"?

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>>26911481
my adorable miyao

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>>26911481
Molesting Mitake Miyao

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>>26911497
It's the best because it's the most active, but it's still, you know, 4chan. And I say this as an oldfag.

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>>26911691
Miyao is for headpats >>26911654

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>>26911769
the problem is more that the rest of the internet has become a dumpster fire where the user mentality is literally "the internet is serious business", and the toxic waste keeps spilling over into the last enclaves of creative meta-ironic discourse. ideally you shouldn't always be able to tell whether the person you're talking to really means what they're saying, so that you can't simply conform or contradict, orienting yourself socially by who you do or do not want to be associated with, but have to look inward and examine your own beliefs.

[Anonymous No.]

Attention: Chloe stinks. I repeat: Chloe Ironside stinks.

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>>26912141
Okonogi is just married to his job and de facto gay.

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>>26912041
Sure, anonymity is both the best thing about 4chan and the worst thing about 4chan. The best because it allows for identity exploration and makes status games meaningless, the worst because it allows people to shit up threads without repercussions, which tends to lead to a lower overall quality of discourse over time.

Nothing wrong with some creative shitposting of course, but when it's repetitive and constantly drowns out actual discussion, it gets annoying.

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>>26908273
yes

[Anonymous No.]

Eriks is Kanon guys!!!!
accept it

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>>26912521
The negative side of anonymity only comes up if the poster is an evil asshole or a literal retard. Anonymity is still great for everyone else. The alternative makes otherwise good posters behave like evil cunts and brainwashed cucks because they fear being ostracized. Communities where people have names tend to get taken over by a single SJW and everyone else is forced to dance to their tune in fear of being called names.

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>>26912643
Erika's hair is blue, Beatrice's hair is golden. Your argument is invalid.

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>>26900224
This. How can anyone stand that faggot?

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>>26912746
Blue hair in anime and manga mean Black hair like Kanon

Shannon have brown hair Kanon black hair so Shkanontrice is invalid

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>>26912729
I agree, though it's more that such communities easily get taken over by "A" given ideological framework, and once they have an orthodoxy and gain enough mass to pull people in and impose serious social costs for transgression it's difficult to go back.
I really think we (as in, we as a civilization) need to develop a more abstract language to describe these phenomena so that we can talk about this cult behavior without getting derailed into fighting political trench warfare instead, if we want to survive much further into the digital age without having a mass psychotic meltdown and entering A3W for real.

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>>26912729
My point is that in either case the discussion ends up dominated by a tiny but vocal minority. In named communities the highest status complainer calls the shots, in anonymous communities the loudest shitposters drown out everything else. It doesn't matter how small the percentage of malicious posters is, they will still lower the overall quality of discussion.

Names aren't better or worse than anonymity, they just have different problems, or rather, the same problems manifesting in a different way.

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>>26913131
I agree with this. If something like meme theory was taught in schools in connection to Internet discourse, maybe people would be more resistant to obvious manipulation and groupthink.

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>>26912141
The way Okonogi treat Chloe makes me think (feel) that he might be her father without her knowing it. I don't remember clearly, but those that are born in incubators don't know their genetical parents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26913424
But I am Chloe's father (and her husband).

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>>26913194
People can choose to ignore malicious shitposters like italianon. I have to assume that the only people feeding him are dysfunctional autists incapable of spotting his obvious malice. If nobody fell for it and just reported his shit, the shitposter would have no power.

It's not that easy when it comes to named communities where you get banned for saying the wrong thing, have to constantly censor yourself and the discussions are always centered on SJW complaints and puritan garbage.

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>>26908273
>Nomura
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26913981
The person Okonogi calls Cuckoo as a codename.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26913981
Animefag or bad memory?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26913981
The evil woman Ryukishi used to shift the blame away from Takano.

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>>26914175
Does such a person exist? I thought Takano just had a hard life and then caught Hinamizawa syndrome. Maybe there was a scene paralleling the way she gaslit Shion and Rena into going full conspiracy modo, but I don't remember it as a big plotpoint.

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>>26913981
The deep state nazi that convinced Miyo to commit genocide. She also has her silenced for all eternity in every fragment, so ironically Miyo only lives on when she's defeated.

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't we create a board in the same vein that /seacats/ with every 07th Expansion works?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26914313
Who's stopping you?

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>>26914288
Did you read the actual VN? It's impossible to miss such a big scene. It's literally when she switches from researcher to evil murderer and changes her entire mindset. How can you not remember such a drastic shift in a character's internal monologue?

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>>26914288
She caught the disease because she lost her mind when everything went wrong, but everything she did the previous years was her own fault. The syndrome doesn't make you plot evil conspiracies or hire hitmen.

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>>26914371
Well, I did speedread 8 in a single day, so that might have something to do with it.

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>>26914313
With the same 60~70 regular posters we have on this thread, it might not be as active as here. But it's a good substitution for the late Rokkenjima.

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>>26914343
I don't know how, but it might be a good project for myself.

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>>26914545
Do it, and I promise you that I'll be there to shitpost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26781185
>Knox's 5th: No Chinamen must figure in the story
The only person to not be of full Asian descent is Sayo Yasuda, specifically referring to kinzo' s granddaughter born from his daughter, which means Sayo Yasuda can be the only possible culprit/mastermind. THE ROOM IS SEALED, ITALIANON. CHECKMATE.

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>>26914313
Because 4chan would never bother creating such an obscure board. And even if it existed, the threads wouldn't get archived because nobody cares about such a board. Warosu has been archiving /jp/ for years and that's how we can read old discussions and find forgotten art.

A discord would be a good idea, but it's still kinda shit because it's hard to search for old posts. And everything can be lost forever if discord ever closes down or the channel creator decides to close it. Years of discussion down the drain.

And even then, a decent discord channel would need to encourage discussion AND lewd posts (this would work really well if everything is contained in its own section). SJWs and puritans need to be banned on sight, though. Or at least mocked into oblivion. Better banned because they can make a mess of things or mass report certain channels out of spite if they hang around. Any non-participating member should be banned as well to make sure it's not one of those people trying to stir up trouble from the shadows.

I don't trust anyone other than myself to be ruthless to SJWs, but I'm not really interested in maintaining a discord. So if someone want to try, go ahead.

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>>26914740
"No Chinamen" refers to the killer being the suspicious foreigner in the cast. Or the one character that stands out from the rest for whatever reason. The odd one out. It's to prevent the author from having the killer be someone whose motives the reader could never figure out because it's a cop-out such as "he comes from a different culture" or "his exotic religion made him do it".

It has nothing to do with Chinese people, they just happened to be popular scapegoats in mystery novels when the rules were written. Also, stop replying to italian anon.

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>>26914791
I wasn't clear, sorry ; by board, I mean a new website with the same layout as 4chan/2ch but with a dedicated board for each 07th Expansion big works. Like seacats.net.

>A discord would be a good idea, but it's still kinda shit because it's hard to search for old posts. And everything can be lost forever if discord ever closes down or the channel creator decides to close it. Years of discussion down the drain
Discord are now developping a thread functionality for channels, like in slack.

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I hate how there's always a trade-off depending on the style you choose. Steam remaster looks retarded 90% of the time but the creepy rena is way better than originals or PS3 artwork

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>>26915165
The steam sprites look better than the ps3 garbage all in all.

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>>26915165
she looks like she's about to tell me about their lord and saviour Oyashiro-sama

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>>26915261
>bottom text
oh

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Which character has the largest penis in the ryukishiverse ?

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>>26912850
Trash

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>>26915327
Italianon

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>>26915327
Teppei, canonically.

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>>26915225
The PS3 sprites get me the most immersed though desu. They lack soul but they're simple and not ridiculous looking

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>>26915165
What's the tradeoff in the originals? If Rena didn't look THAT creepy in the original, it's because she wasn't meant to. The anime went overboard with it and the remakes tried to copy it.

Onikakushi was originally scary because these bitches are suddenly acting suspiciously and have a creepy glint in their eyes. They might have been faking their friendliness to get K1 to lower his guard so they can murder him and hide the body with the help of the whole town.

They were never intended to be in-your-face scary with aggressive facial expressions or disturbing faces. They looked normal but their stares were creepy and their behavior was sketchy as fuck. The scary part was the implication that these teenage girls are working for the village leader and carefully planning K1's abduction and murder, not some stupid DEEN face.

Ryuukishi is more than capable of drawing scary faces, such as Teppei's. His intention was never to have Rena look deranged. So how in the world are the original creepy faces inferior if they look how they are supposed to and the remakes exaggerate it by adding an unnecessary aggressive layer to it?

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>>26915327
Kanon

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>>26915389
Satoko got canonically buttraped in arc 3, so he can't have the largest penis. The narration would've described her having trouble walking.

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I hate trannies but I like Beatrice what does it mean?

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>>26915533
Beatrice is not a tranny, she's an eunuch tricked into gender confusion. And even if she was a tranny, there would be no reason to hate her because she probably isn't a deranged SJW allergic to lewdness and free speech.

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>>26915627
That explains it but it also just made me think of those two Russian girls.

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>>26915533
I used to sympathize with trannies until the early 2010s when every single one of them became a whiny puritan obsessed with social "justice", feminism and demonization of rorikon. If anything, these nutjobs have made me hate them. And for good reason, not for any stupid prejudice.

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>>26915900
I sympathize with HSTS but not autogynephiles

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>>26915900
If they’re MTF they’re a creepy fetishist
If they’re FTM they’re an SJW attention whore

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>tfw trannies doing mental gymnastics and ignoring contextual clues to convince themselves that the characters in Higanbana are not elementary schoolers

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>>26915533
You probably just hate the idea that you have to think what, according to The Group, constitutes the politically correct stance on transgenderism if you don't want to be instantly stamped as a heretic and have that haunt you for the rest of your life, and that makes you resent the identity groups used as a trojan horse to establish that kind of social climate. I don't really believe in that way of thinking, though I know where you're coming from.

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>>26916145
No I just don’t like rapey autogynes

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>>26916115
Both cases are just bullied autists with multiple personality disorders whose "special interest" and autistic obsession is "gender". And they take that obsession to the extreme. This happens when a member of the SJW cult says some kind words to them and pretends to share their weeb interests. This is how they join the cult and their head is filled with all this radical and intolerant garbage that turns them into the worst scum. I have no sympathy for these authoritarian pieces of shit.

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>>26916302
It’s not always SJWs, sometimes it’s literally just a group of creepy guys who ‘wish to be the little girl’ so they can act extremely creepy while pretending they’re a cute anime girl in their heads.

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>>26916357
those usually identify as traps and are self aware about being gay RPing fetishist. for some reason I feel more comfortable with that idea.

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>it's another tranny rant episode

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>>26916452
Sometimes it goes beyond that though and they start wanting to actually be a girl as opposed to a ‘femboy’ despite them usually looking like neither due to having a linebacker chin.
I notice the guys who actually look more feminine are less likely to become a tranny and stay a trap/femboy, probably because trannies are insecure as fuck.

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>>26916357
You literally just described /a/ and /jp/.

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Nothing pisses me off more than the "BT was the only reason Higurashi and Umineko were good" take. I'm fine with most shit but people saying that gets me mad

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>>26916771
I know.

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>Maria's Horcrux possessed Ange and turned her into an avatar for her ideology
Sasuga Black Magic

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>>26916757
We call them trannies because most of them can't shut up about gender shit and spend all day thinking about it. It's the new big thing in SJW land.

It's not about the trannyism, it's about their intolerant mindset and refusal to engage in discussion with anyone they consider "problematic". Being too stubborn and brainwashed to even consider that their opinions might be based on incorrect information is their sin.

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>>26916757
Time for a new thread.

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>>26915327
Lion. It would be only natural.

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>ywn fuck Naima's butt, grabbing her cheeks so hard that you leave marks in the shape of W in such a way that the marks in both cheeks and the stretched open butthole in the middle spell (wow)
Why live?

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>>26917093
Wait, is her verbal tic hinting at the theory that she got buttfucked in front of an audience to make her mentally ill enough to be an ace? Is it foreshadowing?

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>>26916965
that's the same retarded rationalization BLM gives for "defund the police" as a slogan. it's just a pointlessly vague and easy to misread (both for allies and opposition) way of framing that idea. I despise gender ideology and identity politics, but I'm pretty sure the nigger who keeps bringing up SJWs every other post just feels some kind of deranged, general hatred for all things and people he associates with the internet left.

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>>26917093
A3W stands for Arse 3 W. She has W marks in her ass cheeks. The 3 is her age divided by 4 (the four factions). The cagandos don't count because their faction is rich and doesn't need to fight wars.

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>>26912643
>>26912746

Raven Paradox?

Also the way italian anonymous portraits his information really looks how schizos do it back on /x/.

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>>26917732
Umineko is peak Schizo bait, I'm surprised we don't have more "prophet of the true hidden gospel"-type people in the community.

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>>26915327
Barely being able to take Lion's 11 inches in the gym locker room!

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>>26917798
I believe lambda and bern are real egregores and mindcontroled Ryukishi or BT for all of this stuff

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CHUDs seethe when they see the based frog

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>>26918088
don't most artists believe the gods and daemons are speaking through them? if you think YOU'RE the one writing that next great american novel you're NGMI

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>>26918282
41%

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>>26918304
In this case its 100% deities.

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>>26917992

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>>26918445
Will, protect your ass!

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>>26918358
0%
the based frog is only in it for the free reputation point among wokies and because he likes to troll christians.

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>>26918282
fuck off trannies
ciconia was shit thanks to your cancer community

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>>26917732
>>26917798

>schizo
reddit word fuck off
you must have high iq to post here

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>>26918601
Imagine not liking Ciconia
because of a literal boogeyman

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>>26915627
BEATRICE IS FEMALE

KINZO WAS AFRAID OF COMMIT THE SAME SIN AGAIN
MAKE PREGNANT HIS DAUGTHER

KINZO IS NOT GAY AND EVEN IF HE IS GAY YOU CANT GET A MALE PREGNANT

BUT FUCKING SHKANON FAGS FORGOT THIS TO ENFORCE THEIR SHIT

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>>26918601
seethe

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>>26918601
If you see tranny themes in Ciconia it's because you've fallen into their trap, loser. Now you can't see certain things without immediately being blinded by the assumption that it's tranny shit and missing the whole point.

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>>26918642
Fuck off did you read it?
was a fucking torture to read

literrally repetition repetition of the same shit
literrally a glass of 50% coca cola and 50% water

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>>26910917
>>26910993
I would say they don't want to run out of stuff to release on a consistent schedule. If I recall, they talked about there being a big break on recording due to the pandemic and they managed to stretch out their Higurashi stuff without that many delays.That and having more RL responsibilites.

Having a backlog of unreleased content in case the content tap gets clogged for whatever reason is what smart content producers do.

>>26911389
Who said he was going to stick it there? Also, "Naima" doesn't believe in God.

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>>26918682
>fall in their trap
WHY R07 MAKE TRANNIES CHARACTERS?
BECAUSE THANKS SHKANONTRICE SHIT ALL OF HIS FANS ARE TRANNIES AND IF HE WANT MONEY HE MUST BAIT THEM

MIYAO IS A WOMAN, JAYDEN IS A BOY THE ONLY TRANNIES WOULD BE IRRELEVANT FANSERVICE CHARACTERS BUT RUIN A FUCKING MASTERPIECE SERIES TO FEED THIS CANCER IS SHIT

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>>26911389
A MAN WITHOUT BEARD IS A WOMAN
FUCK OFF LITERRALLY FAGGOT RELIGION

WHY WOMAN ARE ALL COVERED?
SO DEGENERATES CAN LEGGALLY HAVE A FAGGOT AS WIFE

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>>26870041
>>26863065
works better than even I hoped it would.

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>>26912141
I wonder if we're going to have a 'Private Pyle' conclusion with her and Okonogi? There's just too much bottled up emotions in that relationship waiting to burst.

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>>26918782
Chloevil will fucking kill him like in Full Metal Jacket.

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>>26918687
and I don't even like coca-cola

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>>26918555
Will has already been "pinched" enough.

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>>26916819
Well, he made Kimosabe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llnLnP5LxJc

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>>26918937
>fucking kill
Well yes, a combination of those things was what I had in mind.

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>>26874774
>the entire story was just VR inside of VR
Ryukishi is truly a genius of foreshadowing

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There is nothing that I love more than Rosa, she is the bright shining star of my life and is the reason I wake up everyday, if she were my mom I'd lie about having nightmares just to be able to sleep while hugging her

Please vote for Rosa, she deserves it
https://07th-expansion.net/party/event.html

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>>26922053
>eventually it will all turn out to be an erotic dating sim where you play as Jayden and conquer Miyao
Sasuga, Ryu07!

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>>26922505
about time. Ryukishi has gotten so close to writing eroge several times in his career, it's only natural that he'd have a whole nukige IP all worked out after more than a decade of writing "I can't believe it's not porn"-tier narratives.

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>>26922088
Thanks, I forgot to vote for my waifu. Not Rosa.

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>>26923232
>inb4 Ryuukishi is actually humiliation anon and knows English
>inb4 Ryuukishi saw anons praising Euphoria and Subahibi in these threads two years ago and came up with a story about DID and VR

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>>26922088
same, I appreciate that you're giving out these daily reminders anon.

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>>26923280
the whole premise of euphoria is just "we know you still have a hateboner for 1-4 beatrice" anyway. has anyone actually read the scenes involving the other characters? I think not.

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>>26923445
The scat machine scene with Makiba and Rinne is humiliation kino and the best in the game.

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>>26923445
I have, it actually has a pretty good story for being an nukige. Also, you can't forget that Byakuya RInne is Bernkastel. Get to take it out on her too.

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>>26924054
She's more like Ange.

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>>26923971
>annoying childish pseudo-loli character that you want to punch in the face
>eats everyone's food because she's a childish crybaby despite being the same age as everyone else
>betrays everyone and joins the evil side because she's scared and wants to side with the victors
>"prepare the scat tubes machine, let's punish the captured rebel"
>"Alright! I'll do whatever you say!"
>loli brings the machine
>is forced to participate in the shitfest with the captured rebel in front of every student in the gymnasium
>almost dies because of all the shit gathering up in her throat
>cries, moans and farts like a pig for hours
>the captured rebel was an stoic cunt but eventually breaks after swallowing too much loli shit
>loli bitch is turned into the school's pet dog and forced to insert dog turds inside her ass
Jesus Christ, my dick. Revenge has never felt so good. Euphoria is a fantastic game. Also predicted Ciconia.

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>>26923445
I literally only read Euphoria because it was the only VN I could find where the teenage girls had a realistic amount of pubic hair. And even then, it wasn't enough. The anime completely fucked this up, btw.

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>>26924234
What the fuck are you guys talking about? Some obscure stuff from Ryukishi?

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>>26924280
A Clockup nukige where Beato shows up and fucks Keiichi.

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>>26780239
did we ever get an actual date for when the next Ciconia would be released?

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>>26923445
Congrats on discovering the truth of Euphoria

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Why wasn't Wang mentioned even once on Last Season? Seems a bit unfair when every other arc villain gets to show up.

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>>26810311
Usually its only shitters who read Umineko first. If you read Umineko first you didn't actually read Umineko.