/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

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A place for discussion of the works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (in Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Kara no Kyoukai – the Garden of Sinners
Kara no Kyoukai novel (in Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/%E5%A5%88%E9%A0%88%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93_%E7%A9%BA%E3%81%AE%E5%A2%83%E7%95%8C/index.html
English translations by cokesakto
https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Kara no Kyoukai Anime Movies
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2502321
Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (updated 2018-05-30)
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate stay night [Realta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572
Fate hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files?p=3041785&viewfull=1#post3041785
Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/fQFiyY4I#UcZr7N0u3_35994pXKP8qw

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English Patch: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nUY3G5Z8tgBnfvELhbLiYhmLolDI2TwC/
French Patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french

Other works
>Angel Voice (A doujin anthology that contains the short novel "Notes." written by Nasu, and the Manga "clowick canaan-vail" drawn by Takeuchi.)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip
>Fate Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Fate Extra
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-mod/
>Fate Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate type Redline
https://mangadex.org/title/44059/fate-type-redline
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade manga
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

Other links
>Beast's Lair
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate complete material II Character material
https://pastebin.com/Zjy1Sj6d
>Fate Art Books
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nmo3TqWLRgvl9M7MxzuWKDe3rAP1LVut?
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca/
>TMdict
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
tsukikan.com/
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY
>TYPE-MOON 10th Anniversary Phantasm translation
http://heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html

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First for best girl

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so how big do you think takeuchi's personal handrawn saber porn stash is

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>>26255492
Best slut.

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Does anyone have a pre-installed copy of melty blood reACT they can upload on a site like gofile.io for me? I'm on Linux and it's a pain to install because of how it detects the disc. Or if anyone knows a site where I can download a pre-installed copy that'd be good too

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>>26260958
> Look up "melty blood react"
> Second result https://www.myabandonware.com/game/melty-blood-re-act-cmh
I don't know if that's what you want.

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>>26261290
Nah, I meant like a version that's already been installed and I can just copy the files onto my PC and play; I think that version is just the normal ISO

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>>26260958
I have it but it's Japanese. If that's alright, I can zip it and upload it.

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CEO of Racism, Eastern Division

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>>26266736
I have this fucking thing that's old as sin and I'm not sure if it will help you, but I hope it does

http://www.mediafire.com/file/59rg3o256fkmfs3/Melty+blood+CCAA.zip/file

Haven't played Melty Blood since forever

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>>26266736
>>26280621
link fucking died for some reason, here it is

http://www.mediafire.com/file/k5vr1qzchs74fr5/Melty+blood+CCAA.zip/file

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why is Rider so great?

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>>26283452
why do you like rider

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>>26255492
I love her so much

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwZTIFUp-yo

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>>26283725
I just think she's neat

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>>26283962
holy shit, articulate more, don't be a smoothbrain

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>>26283941
Imagine this dude's soundtrack on a Tsukihime remake.

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>>26284256

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Meido

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>>26285212
Meido pussy.

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>>26284040
I really like her role in Fate /Stay Night, how she goes from a low tier jobber in Fate and UBW to an actually strong servant in HF. Her fight with Saber Alter at the end of HF is great because you can finally see Rider fighting at her full potential even if everyone knows she'll be obliterated once Saber uses her NP.
I also love her relationship with Sakura and how protecting her was her priority during F/SN. It even gets better when you get a deeper look at Rider backstory during F/HA and see how similar Rider and Sakura are, both being cursed just for who they were, leading them in a path of suffering that endes with them killing their loved ones. Rider sees her younger self in Sakura and that's why she doesn't want her to meet she terrible fate she met in her life. Also Sakura and Rider have sister-like relationship so it's no wonder Rider prioritizes Sakura over anything else as the biggest burden she carries is that she was unable to protect her sisters in her lifetime.
Also I love the dumb little details like her height complex or her hobbies being reading and swimming, it's a nice cute contrast with the mysterious and grim aura she had in F/SN. Her scenes in F/HA were also pretty funny, the date with Shirou and her and Caster calling Saber a lazy NEET are favorites of mine. Also how her servant attire is TOP SEX while her casual clothes are CUTE, espeacially the megane.
On top of it Yuu Asakawa is the perfect VA for her, fucking great, 10/10 PURE SEX, I love this drunk hag
Also, but not less importantly, I love that bad end in F/SN where she says she'll cum if she gouges Shirou's eyes out. Very nice.

tl;dr I think she's neat

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yorokobeshounenandshoujo anata no negai wa nanidesu ka?

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>>26284256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Sy6thXuvM

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Young Kiritsugu

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>>26283452
Ara ara energy

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>>26283941
best version of liszt's liebestraum no3.

Mahoyo soundtrack is marvelous. Especially that one, Shizuki's theme and Alice's theme

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This talk reminds me that I should buy Mahoyo's soundtrack already. I'm someone that's normally indifferent to soundtracks, but Mahoyo's is probably the best one I've ever heard.

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>donut steel or I'll delete my pixiv account and then kms

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chances we ever get another VN from Nasu again? Like you'd think Mahoyo 2 would be out

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>>26299481
0% chance. VNs are dying medium and GO doesn't stop printing money.

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>>26298872
anon did you just posted that artwork here on 4chan without asking that guy permission?
shame on you

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Why can't we all be friends? Just look at this pair holding no grudges whatsoever

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>>26305115
It means you can't LOOK at the image, you can post it but just make sure you don't see it

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>>26283452
I just want ONE doujin where Rider and Mitsuzuri hit it up. Just one! One Day doesn't cut it!

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>>26307396
Irisviel has such a strange opinion on love, relationship and faithfulness that she doesn't care if Kiritsugu has a side chick or two, because to her he'll always be the man she loves. This opinion even extends to her family since she has no problem with Shirou having an actual harem.
Maiya, meanwhile, is such a damaged specimen that she'll gladly take anything, even if it is a purely physical romance with Kiritsugu having no romantic feelings for her at all. She'd just be glad that he gives her a shag once in a while.
Also where tf is Maiya in the main Prisma universe? Is she out on 'business trips' with Kiritsugu? I bet she fucking is.

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>>26280621
>>26283393
Nah, that's just actress again, I need ReACT
>>26275846
I need the English version

Thanks anyways

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I really want to see Heaven’s Feel 3. Why the fuck is it taking so long to release in the US

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>>26312688
Covid fucked it up.

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>>26312792
I know, but what really pisses me off is how little those cocksuckers have said about a US release. I don’t even care about the dub, why is there a radio silence for subbed viewings or digital release

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>>26313311
It says subbed right there in the image

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>>26313324
No shit, Sherlock Holmes. Take note of the dates. I meant post COVID delay.

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>>26313311

Theaters are having a rough time and are just kinda grabbing whatever titles they can. My local theater has been just randomly playing things from a few years back every week or so.

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>>26313311
There is no rhyme or reason to it. I think the theater manager is just playing things she likes.

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>>26313311
Not sure what you expect anon. Theaters in the US were already on life support pre-Covid. There's a very good chance whatever theater you were planning to view it at is in the process of being closed.

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>>26312792
I'm surprised aniplex just didn't do a digital release for the US schekels

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>>26310934
Wouldn't the author of Prillya have to ask Nasu or Urobuchi for permission to use Maiya? Narita had to pitch his idea for Sigma before receiving their blessing.

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>>26332739
Case files author asked Nasu is he can use Touko thinking it would be a big deal request and Nasu just greenlit that shit instantly without even asking anything

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>>26332739
>>26343881
Unless Urobuchi is a douchebag (which I don't think he is one), he should be able to get the greenlight pretty easily.

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>>26312688
Honestly HF3 was on my most wanted to see this year list. But I am happy that I am getting anything no matter how random it is.

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tfw tsukihime remake will be announced as a mobile gacha

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Girls love plushies

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is it worth getting into FGO to read the chapters that Nasu wrote

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>>26391482
that effort you use to get into FGO can be used to read another quality nasu visual novel

also, I like Medea. She's underrated.

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Reminder that tohno shiki is literally the worst shiki to exist.

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>>26394689
That's not the Shiki that was in the plus disc.

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>>26284256
mahoyo ost was shit

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>>26253223
So why is Ilya considered a main girl if she's never shilled like Rin, Sakura, and Seiba?

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>>26395293
>mahoyo ost was the shit
FTFY. We all make mistakes.

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>>26395384
thank you anon

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>>26286081
Rider in the novel is surrounded by the aura of an "older sister" or just an experienced adult woman, don't you think?

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Is this what we call them songs? 07 is also called Nostalgia

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>>26391482
no. They're not even good, just better than the rest. They still have the usual mobage problems and insane character bloat

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>>26395293

You need a new set of ears and your not motivated.

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I will find and rape takeuchi while wearing the skinned face of a european 15 year old

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You know, I'm playing fate extella link and I'm liking it

I was fearing another massive shitfest like the previous game, but this is not bad. Story is of course fucking meaningless, only to set up the game, but its very noticeable taht Nasu was once again in charge of writting the characters, Charlemagne is a cool lad and I'm glad Nero's personality from Extra is back

Maybe its because I'm in that extremely small niche of people who like both musous and Fate, but then again I hated the previous Extella

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You know, I'm playing fate extella link and I'm liking it

I was fearing another massive shitfest like the previous game, but this is not bad. Story is of course fucking meaningless, only to set up the game, but its very noticeable taht Nasu was once again in charge of writting the characters, Charlemagne is a cool lad and I'm glad Nero's personality from Extra is back

Maybe its because I'm in that extremely small niche of people who like both musous and Fate, but then again I hated the previous Extella

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>>26399199
I know I have something to look forward to in Extella Link but I still cant push through the agony that is to play the first one

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>>26399266
worry not because I dropped the game after torturing myself with the nero route and Link doesn't fucking care, it pretends hard that the previous game didn't exist

True, you might start and say "why the fuck is there a loli altera?" but besides that its fucking meaningless

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>>26399364
Great then time to uninstall that shit
thanks anon

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>>26399593
one of the first things you'll notice is how Nero acts like nero and gets sht talked by several characters instead of being whatever the fuck that weird mary sue was

I hate sakurai so fucking much

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>>26399025
>while wearing the skinned face of a european 15 year old
Well it can't just be any european. It needs to be someone with ancient bong ancestry before they got raped by the anglo-saxons.

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>>26391482
Yes, I have no fucking clue what the other two anons are talking about. Its extremely fucking obvious that they havent played it and are just talking shit, the story written in it by nasu is worth reading. Its noticeable when he starts giving a shit and he turns into a proper nasuverse work and story

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>>26404705
I doubt that even Tolstoy could make a worthwhile story out of a gatcha.

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>>26404775
The fuck you know?
>I dont know anything about it but I'm going to insist its not good

Are you like that cunt from a previous thread who started to act like he was hot shit for hating FGO and then confessed that he hadn't played or read anything from type moon in the last decade?

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>>26405060
It's objectively a poor medium for story telling.

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>>26405182
Believe whatever you want, you only say that because of disdain and ignorace, since its literally the same as many other VNs with heavy gameplay like Extra

I gain nothing by convincing you, but I want to make it clear for everyone else: you haven't read or played it

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>>26405498
The protagonist literally didn't even have a name until the anime. Excuse for me doubting the legitimacy of a game whose primary purpose is clearly to appease gambling addicts with waifus.

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>>26405498
not the same anon but
>comparing a medium such as a gacha mobile game to a proper game
ok tard, no matter how much you hate it, certain formats will always restrict the stuff you can do with it

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>>26405648
It shows that you are not the same anon
Biggest problem is that people here really do not want to believe that Nasu writes FGO like his other works for some reason and are extremely resistant to any conviction or posibility of FGO having a worthwhile story
Let me put it like this, why do you think its the most popular mobile game when on paper its inferior to its direct competitors? Graphics and gameplay are limited for being designed with a 5 years old mentality, the fanservice is lackluster, the gacha rates are smaller and lacks features that bring big audiences like crossovers with popular stuff
The reason is because the story is vastly and astronomically superior to all other phone games, its interesting for both people who have no fucking idea about the nasuverse and for veterans it packs a fascinating amount of references and continuity to the lore and other nasuverse works. The abysmal first chapters are indeed a price to pay but in defense of that I have to remind you that the beginning of FSN was also excruciatingly boring (which maybe is quite common in type moon works now that I think about it)

Yeah, no, I can't win, its just not possible to convince someone who just wants to reinforce their opinion of "it sucks" by dismissing any detraction. So again, believe what you want

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>>26406267
>I have to remind you that the beginning of FSN was also excruciatingly boring
It's not at all. Your opinion is immediately discarded. One of the big problems with mobile games and the like is that there's no clear scope or end to the story.

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>>26405498
Not that anon, but I have read and played it (albeit only up to NA stuff). FGO has its moments, but it being a gacha game hinders its story in such a way that I wouldn't recommend it to other people unless they really want more type moon stuff. As >>26405182 said, gacha makes for terrible storytelling for what could've been a much better story in probably any other medium.
>>26406267
It being the most popular gacha game or the best gacha story does not necessarily mean the game has a good story. Also your view on the early hours of FSN being boring is entirely subjective, even if you do not enjoy it you can't deny the fact that it does an excelent job on building up mystery and setting up the world the game takes place in which FGO does not.

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>>26406450
There is
Man, it really shows that you have no fucking interest at all in it and thus have no idea about it
I'm going to write the following moreso for other anons and to put my thoughs in order, since I have no hope whatsoever of you caring

The story, how its written and planned, can be divided in four periods
At first, during the first chapters of the story, Nasu only gave enough of a shit to write and plan the set up and key plot twists and moments, but he expected other people to handle the actual chapters and leave the thing alone. This culminated in the terrible rome chapter written by Sakurai (to make you imagine it, just think it is pretty much like Extella) and people complained so much about its terrible story that Nasu got back into the project, but he didn't care enough to put much effort into it at first

The second period was when Nasu finally got motivated enough to care about putting the usual effort in the characters and the story, however by that point around half of the story was already done and thus it was a bit of a rush to recover the excitement lost from the lame beginnings, so Nasu ramped up the action to eleven to make up. Luckily he isn't a fucking hack and it turned out exciting and fun to reas, although it certainly felt too high octane compared to other Nasu works. Part one finishes here, you can clearly say "okay, this story is done"

Third phase was when Nasu said "give me a year to plan and write the second part". So the 1.5 part is an epilogue is very clearly written by other 4 different writers of varying quality. Its quite interesting how the treatment of certain characters or the protagonist is done depending on the author, but nonetheless this period is clearly just filler in the grand scheme of things (fairly good filler, all things considered), and it really doesn't feel like it was written by nasu at all

Then cosmos in the lostbelt came, and fuck me, this really feels like a nasuverse story. The pacing, themes, how the characters are treated and revealed, the lore... its all undoubtly the nasu style we've seen in FSN, extra, etc. I gotta admit we are only a few chapters in, and the motherfucker has said that the jap version is only halfway there with the story but so far Cosmos in the lostbelt, the second part, is by all means and accounts a legitimate nasu written story

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>>26407570
Is this really supposed to somehow convince me that FGO has a "clear scope or end"? It precisely shows the opposite: poor planing, a mess of writers, and there's no reason to believe it's going to stop anytime soon (don't believe Nasu's lies about FGO ending). Normal games aren't perfect by any means, but most of the time, the entire thing is planned out and self-contained. It actually fucking ends. I'm not interesting in the battle shounen equivalent of a game where writers drag out things forever for no reason other than to make more money off of suckers.

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>>26407359
Maybe you are right, its subjective, but I always bring up how it is a big deal for secondaries, when the story begins with a extremely slow paced telling of elements a person who has watched the anime or read the manga already knows by heart. It certainly is the reason why it took me so long to actually get motivated enough to read it. Once I got to the actual story moving I read the entire thing it matter of a few days no problem, but the prologue and the events up to after the church were terribly boring to me, and although its subjective I know I'm not alone in this and its a fairly common experience

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>>26407858
No, again I dont care because I know you can't be convinced, you have been told that the second part involves a great deal of planning from Nasu and that it shows, but you dont fucking care and just turn it into "theres no planning and its a mess of writers". Not to mention that having several writers or just one has no relation to quality of what's written but you brought it up anyway. As for things being drag out
>Nasu lies
Okay, sure

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>>26408115
What kind of planning? Please elaborate. As far as I can tell Lostbelt continues the formula of adding a heaping tablespoon of new gachabait "characters" every chapter. There is 0 character development, the MC remains a literal blank slate for self-inserts, and the story of each chapter might as well be self contained.

Where the fuck is the planning, what is it all leading towards? Other than introducing more character bloat that is.

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>>26407359
Come on anon, the reason you don't recommend it is because you are embarrased to admit that you like it to the elitists here
Can't blame you, seeing the massive shitole that the threads in /vg/ or /a/ are

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>>26408437
Amazing

>what is it all leading towards
An AMSR featuring Chiwa Saito, joji nakata and Aoi Yuuki

What kind of fucking question is that? What kind of fucking answer do you expect?
Am I supposed to fucking know how the story ends?
Fucking amazing

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>>26408845
Gotcha, so there are no common themes between the chapters, no underlying subtext, no mystery that is being slowly unveiled, and no reason for shit happening. Great planning.

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>>26409002
Anon I dont fucking care
you only want to hear reasons to reinforce your belief of "FGO is not worth reading/playing" and ignoring any evidence that goes against that preconception
Why should I fucking waste my time and an entire post when you will, without doubt, absolutely claim its all crap and lies or other excuses?

Yes, there are themes between chapters, theres character development, continuous misteries and so on.
No, I ain't telling, fuck you, its all poiting to the AMSR

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Speaking of FGO, if Babylonia is anything like the anime, it's fucking trash.

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>>26406267
>Biggest problem is that people here really do not want to believe that Nasu writes FGO like his other works for some reason and are extremely resistant to any conviction or posibility of FGO having a worthwhile story
Because it doesn't have a worthwhile story, Goetia is literally ''Humans bad, nihilism cool!'', the ''good'' singularities like Babylon and Camelot are filled with story and gameplay bloat, the crypters are barely developed because they either have to die by the end of the singularity or just get pushed aside and forgotten. It has embarrassing shounenshit (asspulls) and power of friendship moments, the scene were blank MC punches Goetia is fucking laughable and I doubt that even the worst shounen could had written a scene as laughable as that
>gameplay are limited for being designed with a 5 years old mentality
no shit sherlock as if complex phone games can sell
>the fanservice is lackluster
This is not a point, artists are the ones that drive the fanart and doujin scene forward (Touhou syndrome), tons of coomers just get into franchises nowadays because of the fanart and doujins they see and you see tons of people saying that they got into FGO thanks to that
>the gacha rates are smaller and lacks features that bring big audiences like crossovers with popular stuff
You don't need crossovers with popular stuff to be huge (Azur Lane, Arknights, Hokai), FGO isn't unique in this case, also gacha rates don't matter, of course a game with more characters is going to have higher rates to make up for it
>The reason is because the story is vastly and astronomically superior to all other phone games, its interesting for both people who have no fucking idea about the nasuverse and for veterans it packs a fascinating amount of references and continuity to the lore and other nasuverse works.
Holy shit they mention the third magic and the frickin black barrel is in the game! Referencing shit doesn't make something deeper, nothing is expanded in FGO beyond a simple reference, FGO doesn't expand shit they just recycle old ideas in a desperate attempt to add more shit into the story (Dead Apostles and Types)

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>>26409497
No, the anime did it fucking terrible
Basically the only worth of the anime adaptation is the animation. Almost all the important moments and revelations are ruined terribly and don't feel impactful at all, the worst examples being the introduction of king hassan (who had his speech cut, no less) and the apparition of the lamuh just feeling plain dumb and like they came out of nowhere

>>26409586
Why should I care about arguing any of that when all of it applies to all works written by Nasu ever
I remember shitty character development and shonenshit asspulls in FSN

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>>26409915
>Why should I care about arguing any of that when all of it applies to all works written by Nasu ever
>I remember shitty character development and shonenshit asspulls in FSN
Are all GOtards like this? This is why people like me don't take your opinions seriously. Have you even read F/SN?

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>>26410011
Don't worry anon, Nasu's shortcomings don't count and do not exist when it isn't in a super popular game and its in a VN

Like every other single writer in history, Nasu has weaknesses

[Anonymous No.]

God damn it, can you fuckers just join or make your own discord server and talked about that shit there and not here so this whole thread isn't clog up with this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26410265
Character development is one of Nasu's strengths (well in his good works anyway). Excuse me for, once again, doubting that a """character""" who literally didn't have a fucking name holds a candle to Shirou, Shiki (either one), Aoko, and so on.

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>>26409915
>Why should I care about arguing any of that when all of it applies to all works written by Nasu ever
Even if you want to go with that shit argument, at least every stupid scene in F/SN, Tsukihime, etc has character behind it
Mash and Blank MC have no character, nothing they do will ever have an emotional impact
You can't compare Saber and Shirou defeating fucking Herc to I don't know Blank MC-kun touching Mash's hands and then shield girl shoots down random beast lol
Either way its not like anyone will ever get to convince you so I will just fuck off like many FGO characters do

[Anonymous No.]

>>26405498
>since its literally the same as many other VNs with heavy gameplay like Extra
I'm curious as to why you think any part of Extra's gameplay was conductive to good storytelling. Mind explaining how grinding rock paper scissors didn't make it an abjectly worse experience than reading a visual novel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26410312
Anon, discussing type moon works is done here

Even more, its important to have this discussion with people with disagreements, that's why this fiery arguing should be encouraged. In a discord or any social media what the fucking ever the lack of anonimicity leads to everyone unable to articulate their real opinions and turning into echo chambers with everyone parroting the same fucking thing ad eternity

Of course even here a fuckton of people would want to silence detractors (like me) forever, but I can assure you that even they know that arguing is good to be able to develop your ability to express yourself or to convey your points fairly (for the most part)

>>26410349
Assassin or Rider among others barely have fucking development in FSN

>>26410490
Even if Extra is my favorite TM work I admit the gameplay sucks
However I wouldn't eliminate it to turn it into a VN, I think its an important element to understand and connect with the protagonist and his struggle as an underdog, tying his growth and overcoming of the odds to the habitual RPG mechanics. Also, a lot of things are better portrayed through animations, how the characters fight, their usual quotes and so on rather than entirely throgh words

[Anonymous No.]

>>26410407
What the fuck do you know. Fucking brave of you to try to 180° that "can't be convinced" when you are the cunt who talks massive shit with low effort dismisses that clearly are done from someone without interest

[Anonymous No.]

The only point I wanted to make is to stop taking the opinion of FGO from people who haven't played it and don't care about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26284256
>Tsukihime remake
I don't think I could play it, if Arcueid still looks like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26410749
>Assassin or Rider among others barely have fucking development in FSN
Both are side characters (except for arguably Rider in HF). Name me a single GO character that is comparable to Shirou in depth and development.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck realta nua ultimate edition i can't fucking 100% every route because i had to download saves because every time a vita op played id get softlocked

[Anonymous No.]

>>26410749
>Extra gameplay
I'm of the opinion that expressing its narrative through the gameplay loop made it overly formulaic. Weaving a story through the game mechanics is fine and all, but when nearly every encounter has the same sequence of events (get introduced to opponent > run around doing fetch quests to find their weakness > boss fight) the game begins to turn into a chore and loses any soul it had.

>character development in FSN
As others have mentioned, it's the main characters that have fantastic character development. For all the chair and alarm clock memes, Nasu is really good at writing protagonists in first person, especially when the protagonist isn't just a simple self-insert.

>>26413245
Try the beta https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8229-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition?p=3049649&viewfull=1#post3049649

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>>26414001
thanks it actually fixed it

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>>26391482
>tfw my post caused a small shitstorm
thanks for the input. seems like people either think FGO is pure ass or that the Nasu chapters are his best since the FSN VN. i probably won’t prioritize getting around to reading it but i won’t write it off either.

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>>26420612
>his best since the FSN VN
For Fate, otherwise you are talking about Mahoyo.

[Anonymous No.]

Watched the Tsukihime anime and it fucking sucked. Is the adaption shit and I should read the VN or did I get memed into thinking retarded vampire larping as vegan for no reason only to then die was any good?

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone I try reccomending FSN to gets filtered by Shirou, why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26427392

I haven't finish tsukihime VN but, I know once I finished it, I'll have a greater appreciative for the anime doing its own thing....

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>>26427392
>watching the tsukihime an*me
that was your mistake retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>26427392
You do know that VNs of anime always end up being inferior to VNs itself, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26428835
I enjoyed all of the F/SN adaptations. Figured I'd be okay with watching the Tsukihime anime first this time around.

>>26428846
Obviously.

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>>26414001
The point was that Nasu often puts little development in certain secondary characters, even if they have a big screen time, it is perhaps his most notable weakness

Also, I don't ageee, Hakuno is a shameful self insert and still was a great character written by him, heh. The problem with Fujimaru has nothing to so with being a self insert but with the decision of making him silent, however in the cosmos in the lostbelts (or actually in the epic of renmant) he starts to speak more frequently and has an actual personality separated from the player, but it indeed present troubles developing like other protagonists, but before someone gets smug I must remind that good stories with silent protagonists have been written plenty of times
In fact, Hakuno has a fuckton of similarities with Fujimaru, both being self inserts and barely ever talking, although Hakuno compensates by having a ton of internal monologues.

I guess you are right about the gameplay of extra, but I insist that removing it entirely would be a mistake. We'll see how the remake will turn out, they have alreasy comfirmed that the rock paper scissors system is gone

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>>26411404
Anon, when did you care about how the aberrations of Takeuchi look
Now you'll pretend like the original Tsukihime didn't look like ass

>Looks like seibah!
Looks like a modernized ass, so it carries perfectly the spirit of tsukihime looking like off model ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>26427430
What do you mean?
Do they hate the protagonist?
If its so get better friends, jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>26411794
Name me a single tsukihime character that is comparable to Shirou in depth and development

[Anonymous No.]

>>26427392
It's legendary levels of bad, Anon, besides the soundtrack. How did you not know before watching it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26427392
kudos to you for have the guts to actually watch it tho

[Anonymous No.]

So I'm reading heavens feel now, how did kotomine survive zabaniya? I didn't understand that well

[Anonymous No.]

>>26431951
Hisui.

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>>26432293
He has no heartbeat, so Zabaniya stopping his heart does nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26439856
No, first of all zabaniya crushes the heart, doesn't just stop it, but most importantly he mentioned something about angels and being protected from them

[Anonymous No.]

>>26432293
His heart is made of Grail mud.

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>>26431797
It doesn't look like Arceuid.

Even though her old sprite looked like it was drawn in paint its design was fine, at least it fit her character.
Her new design looks too young and cutesy.
I couldn't ever see it as intimidating which she's supposed to be at times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26440872
arcueid at times was really cute, or supposed to be really cute
that promotional pic shows her being only cute, she'll no doubt have expressions of anger and being intimidating
I seriously think people are making a big fucking deal of this when it isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

Help me true type moon chads I want to read Tsukihime

I downloaded Tsukihime from here and installed it easily but the problem is that the window (even if it's fullscreened) is cut off at the top and I can't make out the top line. I continue the scene and it's still cut off. The same problem wasn't present with Fate/Stay Night.
Thanks in advance

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>>26441244
how the title screen looks in fullscree

[Anonymous No.]

>>26441374
during scene

[Anonymous No.]

>>26441469
windowed

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>>26441374
>>26441469
>>26441525
Do you have a Nvidia card? Go into the control panel and try changing scaling to GPU with override ticked (see pic). This normally helps with scaling issues suck as stretching.

Alternatively try this version of Tsukihime
>https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/1705201

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>>26441717
If torrent version works delete the following in the game files before you play.
envdata
gloval.sav
NScrflog.dat

You might also want to change the BGM back to the original which fits better as background music than the EVER AFTER tracks do imo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26441717
I do have an nvidia driver but in the control panel there are only
>3D settings

so for now I'll try to download the other link for now thanks

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>>26441717
>>26441962
the >https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/1705201

link download works perfectly thanks!

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>>26441244
I used this one and it worked well https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/181368 but the dots were replaced by |, like one of the comments on that page says.

>>26441717
>Music replaced with the one from EVER AFTER soundtrack, which is much better than original.
Not him but that should be pointed out.

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>>26431797
Takeuchi was never a great artist per se (he peaked around Melty Blood imo), but the character designs used to be good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26442031
>3D settings
So your Nvidia control panel doesn't look like this?

>>26442255
>Music replaced with the one from EVER AFTER soundtrack
I did mention it see >>26441962

[Anonymous No.]

>>26442283
I don't see anything wrong with that character design
the only differences is that she carries a necklace and the skirt is shorter, she is arcueid without doubt

[Anonymous No.]

>>26442555
Arc's long skirt is one of the most iconic things about her. It would be like taking Hisui out of her maid outfit. Also no air vents is terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26442641
no, it is nothing like taking hisui's maid, what the fuck are you smoking

[Anonymous No.]

>>26442734
Yes it is. Everyone complained about it (jap and english fans) when that design came out. I think some of the latest supposed leaks from the Tsukihime remake testing suggested that Arc was back in a long skirt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26442832
everyone complains like whores about fucking anything, it doesn't mean shit

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>>26442857
Well I guess nobody has ever done a scientific poll of Tsukihime readers, but I would suspect most people would consider the long skirt a very defining characteristic of her design. If you check pixiv art, you can see that everyone still draws her with the original design and not the remake.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A7%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89

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>>26442988
if extra came out today people would riot on the internet over the redesigns of Archer, Rin or Cu. Those are radically different from the originals in a substantial way that's more than just a single piece of clothing

it really doesn't fucking matter, its a fucking skirt, jesus fucking christ, you have zero fucking proof of the character having been rewritten for just the fucking skirt. Stop crying about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26442283
He literally became the soul vs soulless meme.
wtf happened to him?

[Anonymous No.]

How is fullscreen a problem haha like nigga just press F haha
Also try right clicking on the .exe, go to properties and force it to "run in 640x480 screen resolution"

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443283
bro... he took the faceless pose pill....
it should have been obvious from the beginning...
hes a hack

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443258
>extra
I don't see how this can be compared. Extra is a totally different game/series which I guess is in a totally different universe (or however the fuck this multiverse stuff works). The Tsukihime remake is, well a remake of the original. It's expected to be faithful to the original game to a reasonable extent. Of course people will be upset if you completely redesign a character that had an icon look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443402
no, the point is how people complain and cry about fucking everything and think something is ruined forever because of a stupid piece of clothing
>completely redesign
what the FUCK are you smoking

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443454
not him but bro theres almost nothing similar between the 2 besides hair color and the shirt

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443454
>why are people criticizing character designs in a visual medium
Are you okay? What are you smoking? Of course people will do this. The design is completely different though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443497
everything is the fucking same but the skirt and boots

he just really wants reasons to be angry about it to the point of exaggerating shit

calling a fucking skirt a COMPLETE redesign, my fucking god, like if it was a sonic boom case

>>26443520
>a fucking skirt=COMPLETE REDESIGN
stay mad, bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443570
wtf wrong with you?
Its not just the skirt she looks like a complete different character. For one new Arc looks much younger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443570
I guess you're just trolling, but the hairstyle is also way different. No vents and has an ahoge now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443708
no, what the fuck is wrong with YOU? you are the one getting mad and exaggerating to excuse being mad

[Anonymous No.]

good to see /tmg/ back to its old self

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443828
GG Arcfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443283
I do think that meme is overused, but Type-Moon is one of those cases where it perfectly applies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444021
man fuck you
all you raging faggots who haven't read anything from type moon in the last seven years sucking your own dick ad infinum

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444021
First two rows are so full of life and personality
WHAT
THE
FUCK
HAPPENED?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444076
That's not true though. I read Case Files. I can't wait for the new book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444021
The only characters that remotely look like their original design is Hisui

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444345
Nah that's exaggerating. Arc and Ciel are the only dramatically different ones in terms of design. The bottom row all has the modern, "soulless" type-moon look though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444485
Akiha's new design looks kind of flat

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444021
they look so robotic and soulless now its sad also what the fuck did they do to kohaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444826
Yeah the color palette is a little different, but really it's just the lack of soul. I know that's a shit explanation, but there's really no other way to describe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444485
souless doesn't mean fucking anything but "there's nothing wrong with it but I don't like it anyway"

[Anonymous No.]

>>26445781
Objectively speaking, Takeuchi was never a particularly good artist and suffered from all sorts of problems like poor proportions and so on. Appreciation of his art was always based on intangibles that occured in spite of his obvious faults. The problem with his modern art is that it all looks a feels very "mass produced". There's that image of him copying/tracing the same shit for different characters. The bottom row has that same kind of feel of Takeuchi just phoning it in.

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>>26444345
I guess it makes sense since Hisui is supposed to look bland and soulless.
It probably looks fine for broken Kohaku as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>26446007
Takeuchi is a sub par artist but an amazing character designer when he was in his prime
simply every design was perfect even the prototype fate ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>26448846
Agreed although I think he's still good at making coomer-tier designs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26448871
eh maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>26442255
>>26441962
What is wrong with EVER AFTER?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26451588
Nothing is wrong with it, it just wasn't made to be BGM. It doesn't loop as well and the tone of some of the tracks are quite different.

Listen to track 4 for example

>Original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGltUR1Dg-c

>EVER AFTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnje9l8sMME

The EVER AFTER version is a lot more chill. This is a problem because track 4 is almost exclusively used to invoke dread.

EVER AFTER is good but it was made to be listened to on its own not as replacement BGM.

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>>26453735
Not that anon, but I do prefer the EVER AFTER bgm over the original. The synths/whatever is used in the EVER AFTER version sound way better imo. I think track 8, for instance, is much better because of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26453735
I understand but I can choose anyway which tracks I want to change so I just copied my favorites from EVER AFTER and kept the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>26454199
Track 8 in EVER AFTER sounds great for the main menu music.
But I find that it gets kind of distracting in-game when compared to the original, especially when its looped and the intro repeats halfway though a scene.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>26454251
Thats fair I kind of did the same for the last few routes just to mix things up a bit. Tsukihime's quite long and there's not many tracks so things can get a bit samey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26454427
Why is Shiki such a transphobe?

[Anonymous No.]

Downloaded Tsukihime, what am i in for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26455967
Curry

[Anonymous No.]

>>26455967
This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is he talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26455967
>HISUI IM IN THE BED!

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456112
Is that the scene where Arc treats her wounds using fucking packing tape?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456192
Yeah I got that but what the fuck is a baumkuchen ???

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456221
Just look it up nigga. It's some kraut shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456221

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456221
Fancy German donut if I remember correctly

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456251
How does it look like tape?????????????????

[Anonymous No.]

>>26455967
BRUH WHERE'S THE WINDOWED OPTION

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456274
Press F

[Anonymous No.]

>>26455967
2 hour ms paint sex scenes

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456315
My kink

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456283
danke

[Anonymous No.]

>proceeds to racket the vampire he killed
Shiki is pretty based

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456401
how easy would it be to extort a dumb blonde vampire

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456268
Don't bully the visually impaired, anon.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>26444021


GOD DAMN IT YOU FUCKS STOP BICKERING ABOUT THE DESIGNS AS MUCH AS I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES I CAN'T SEE TO FATHOM IT UNTIL THE GAME ACTUALLY COMES OUT AND WAITING TO SEE WHY THESE DESIGNS ARE LIKE THIS AHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>>26459818
>UNTIL THE GAME ACTUALLY COMES OUT
Sure thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>26459886

Yes.... I know that waiting of void hurts but someday when the designs finally come out and they give a reason why they're like this... will finally rest the void in out hearts...

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

If Arc is called Atari Dumbledore what do we call pic related?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26459886
I love these images give me more

[Anonymous No.]

>>26460157
old is still objectively best.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.ufotable.info/2020/09/fate.html?m=1
Fate is OVER the production team leader said it HIMSELF

[Anonymous No.]

>>26472277
Man, so Hollow Ataraxia and Bazett will never gets the love it deserves, huh? It will just remains there, dead, alone and barely anybody knows about it.
Oh well, at least secondaries will not ruin Bazett's reception.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26472277
So no Fate route anime remake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26473124
>>26477248
Can still be adapted by another studio

[Anonymous No.]

>>26467622
>objectively

[Anonymous No.]

>>26472277
Can we get a tsukihime anime now

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going through the FSN game listed in the op. What is the difference between uncensored and decensored?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26494082
Uncensored has pixelated dick and pussy, decensored removes the pixels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26496580
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26472277
>>26491062
How about Girls' Work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26431719
While I agree that the secondary character in FSN like developement he pretty much redeemed hisemlf with HA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26444826
Eh other than the lack of color I think she looks the best with Hisui.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, I can't believe tsuki r is going to be on ps5

[Anonymous No.]

Is Kagetsu Tohya worth playing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26499857
If you liked Tsukihime, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26499844
>grand thöft auto

[Anonymous No.]

>>26499384
Secondary characters are called secondary characters for a reason. If they get meaningful development, that's very much the exception not the rule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26472277
good, let ufo come crawling back
>>26499857
has more tsuki backstory so yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>26456401
Based as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>26513644
I haven't played tskuihime in decades bro but this can't be a real line

[Anonymous No.]

>>26514167
oh its real.
Time to replay Tsukihime

[Anonymous No.]

>>26514167
It's real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26499857
>>26505055
Yeah its worth it for the deep lore and expansive world building.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26505055
>good, let ufo come crawling back
Crawl back for what? People will eat up any mediocre IP they prettify after Kimetsu.

[Anonymous No.]

I always wondered what the fuck
"Our names reach the imperial villa"
meant in the crane wings chant

[Anonymous No.]

>>26443981
Could Gil actually get away with destroying the planet?
Could he fight TYPEs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26519323
Chuuni epic garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>26514167
Of course it's a real line, it's even in the manga

[Anonymous No.]

Why is pic related taking so long to get finished?
>>26499873
>>26505055
>>26515518
Not the guy you replied to, but doesn't kagetsu tohya have a dodgy translation? Like it's a translation of another translation? That's always turned me off reading it, I even heard some passages are just incomprehensible nonsense. Feelsbad being an English secondary

[Anonymous No.]

>>26513644
Better resolution

[Anonymous No.]

>>26536753
>doesn't kagetsu tohya have a dodgy translation
Oh I wouldn't know about that since I'm a JOP, but it's a Mirror Moon translation so it's probably at least good enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26536753
I definitely enjoyed it way more when I went back and read it in Japanese, which may or may not have something to do with the quality of the translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26539098
>that font
>not just integer scaling the original image

[Anonymous No.]

>>26541924
I didn't change anything from the game in OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>26541924
>integer scaling
That's a meme for retro games. There's no purpose in integer scaling a VN. Ideally, the font is rendered in your native resolution and then the rest of the sprites/images are scaled with advanced scaling algorithms. Of course, that never happens so you just take what you can get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26441244
>>26541924
>>26542625
Speaking of different versions of Tsukihime and scaling.

For some reason this version has a much smaller windowed mode than the version in the OP
>>26441717
>https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/1705201

Does anyone know how to adjust the window mode size? The OP version is too big since it cuts off the bottom.

[Anonymous No.]

my friends who learned moonrunes
how long did it take you? Is it worth it? I'd probably only learn it to read the KnK novels and Mahoyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>26546998
Depends of your motivation and time available. Takes about one week of daily work to learn hiragana and katakana. Then it's like learning any other language, so you should be able to smoothly read basic shit in like 6 months month if you work 2hours+ a day and easy novels in a year. The only actual hard part are kanji. No matter how long you decide to work a day, you should dedicate at least one additional hour only to studying kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26546998
>I'd probably only learn it to read the KnK novels and Mahoyo
Certainly worthy goals, but you'll end up using it for much more than just that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26536753
I'm expecting Narita to come out and say "you know what? it's going to be 15 volumes, sorry again!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>26546998
>how long
You'll never stop learning Japanese.
Let's see. I learned kana and went through Tae Kim. Then read a few volumes of a simple manga and finished a short VN. It took me two months. Right after that I thought why not and started CCC. It was painful but not impossible.
Just practice every single day with no exceptions, it's the most important thing.

[Anonymous No.]

DON'T LOOK AT HER LOOK AT ME SHE'LL FUCK YOU ONCE AND KEEP ON FUCKING WITH YOU BUT I'LL FUCK YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>26542806
>Wanting to put up with blurry images

[Anonymous No.]

>>26562732
Integer scaling does not make images unblurry. It's just nearest neighbor that does funny things on non-integer multiples. For some retro games where you see individual pixels, it can make sense, but not for VNs. Ideally, you would use some fancy ass algorithm (like FSCRNNX which is popular with mpv users) to upscale all the assets, but that's easier said than done.

[Anonymous No.]

Personally the only way I think you can make a story work in a gacha game is if you don't associate the story with the gameplay at all and put it off to the side hidden in a menu somewhere like Bandori does it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26563525
To elaborate on this, I actually enjoyed parts of GO's story. It wasn't all bad, although you can blame me for liking shounenshit, so maybe that's why I found it more bearable than most.
But I honestly think it's undeniable that the fact that the game basically has to make an excuse to have you fight at the end of every node. And yeah, I know there are story-only nodes, but those still feel stilted all the same.
The fact that you have to fight Hundred Face like, three or four different times in Camelot, and the reasoning for the latter fights is literally "uhh because I want to", is just hilarious in the worst way possible. And every regular stage is basically either some minor exposition or Mash going "Master, your orders!". It really hurts the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26563177
It's definitely less blurry than bilinear scaling, which is the only alternative with most, if not all VNs

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry for reviving an earlier discussion, but it's obvious where Part 2 of FGO is leading. It has been leading to the same thing since 2016. I'm certain Nasu decided on what Part 2 was going to be about back when he supervised and co-wrote the Melty Blood crossover manga. It has a few "tricks and twists" and turns to hide the real plot, but the central characters of the story have always been Olga-Marie and her father. The 3 big mysteries of part 2 are the Priestess, the God of a Foreign Star and Specimen E, and all 3 of them are Olga-Marie (something that has been pretty obvious since Moonlight/Lostroom).
The main themes that have repeated themselves in every single Lostbelt, and that tie back to Olga-Marie are: "humans make mistakes, that's normal and it's fine to try again" and "don't be so obsessed about the future, the small things that you do every day are more important."
These were also the themes explored in the Melty Blood crossover manga, which was about Sion, Extra-verse'sSialim and Olga-Marie. The conflictbetween the Sion and Sialim is also the conflict between two sides of Olga-Marie: the little ghost Olga-Marie that won't stop repeating that the future can't change, and a more hopeful version of Chaldea's Olga-Marie that wonders if the future can change.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry for reviving an earlier discussion, but it's obvious where Part 2 of FGO is leading. It has been leading to the same thing since 2016. I'm certain Nasu decided on what Part 2 was going to be about back when he supervised and co-wrote the Melty Blood crossover manga. It has a few "tricks and twists" and turns to hide the real plot, but the central characters of the story have always been Olga-Marie and her father. The 3 big mysteries of part 2 are the Priestess, the God of a Foreign Star and Specimen E, and all 3 of them are Olga-Marie (something that has been pretty obvious since Moonlight/Lostroom).

The main themes that have repeated themselves in every single Lostbelt, and that tie back to Olga-Marie are: "humans make mistakes, that's normal and it's fine to try again" and "don't be so obsessed about the future, the small things that you do every day are more important."

These were also the themes explored in the Melty Blood crossover manga, which was about Sion, Extra-verse'sSialim and Olga-Marie. The conflictbetween the Sion and Sialim is also the conflict between two sides of Olga-Marie: the little ghost Olga-Marie that won't stop repeating that the future can't change, and a more hopeful version of Chaldea's Olga-Marie that wonders if the future can change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26567344
These were also the themes explored in the Melty Blood crossover manga, which was about Sion, Extra-verse'sSialim and Olga-Marie. The conflictbetween the Sion and Sialim is also the conflict between two sides of Olga-Marie: the little ghost Olga-Marie that won't stop repeating that the future can't change, and a more hopeful version of Chaldea's Olga-Marie that wonders if the future can change.

Sialim is obsessed with the fact that she knows she is going to be Atlas' last director and she feels incredibly stressed because the future is out of her control. She can only look at the bigger picture. Sion is the opposite. She would ratherfocus on protecting those that she can protect; Sion says that she has made a lot of mistakes and tripped many times along the way, but what's important is standing up and trying again.

Archetype Earth callsSion's cause more rightful, and the hopeful version of Chaldea's Olga-Marie repeats a similar ideology in the final chapter of the manga. Olga-Marie tells Lev, who we know is aiming to kill her, about her worries regarding the future. She says that maybe her father, and the Animusphere in general, were wrong, and that their idea of justifying mankind through "great accomplishments that require a lot of effort and talent" aren't what makes the future better, that maybe what makes the future better is the collective of the smaller "good deeds" that everyone does. Hearing this, Lev decides to spare Olga-Marie, although he leaves with an ominous warning hinting at the underlying darkness of the Animusphere family (who have been the obvious "primary antagonist" since Solomon said Marisbury was a dangerous guy due to his lack of morality inPart 1).

Either way, as clumsy as it can feel at times, I'm 100% sure that Part 2 was planned out from the beginning, and that it's a story mostly conceived by Nasu himself. He supervised/co-wrote the Melty Blood crossover manga and he also wrote Moonlight/Lostroom himself. I'd have dropped the game if it didn't feel as Nasu as it does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26567394
>I'm 100% sure that Part 2 was planned out from the beginning
Rather than "plan", it's more like what Nasu wished to do. It was only planned inside his head at most, because no way he could add too many characters, foreshadowing or hints for further plotlines to a game which had very low expectations from everybody involved. IIRC he outright said that the staff actually only started working on Part 2 after America chapter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26569316
I meant to say since the beginning of Part 2 just to say that isn't being written on the fly. I think a more established for Part 2 became a thing in 2016. That's when spin-offs and related media (like Case Files, the Melty Blood crossover manga and the anime and manga adaptations of FGO) started to hint that Olga-Marie and her father were going to be important characters.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/VsYZy1g8jGs
Anyone know who animated these movies from the VN
Was it done in house at TYPE-MOON or is it just DEEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>26569734
>a more established plan*

[Anonymous No.]

>>26558620
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>26391482
I think the FGO plot outline and main cast made for the outline (even retconned part 2) is pretty good, way better than whatever Nasu did on Extra. But it has negative drawbacks: First one, it's a fucking mobage, which makes the writing awkward and short first (cut by "enemy attacking"). It also implies a passive silent "protagonist" which is completely out of focus in the story (Mashu should have been the actual protagonist). Second, is a huge cast of filler that kept appearing because they need to sell them for the gacha as is a mobage. Third, is that sometimes because the story isn't contained in one go, but slowly released, the characters relationships and portrayal will be fucked over things Nasu is trying to 'hide'. This is later retconned in adaptations made after the "mystery" is revealed, so the characters act in a logical manner from the beginning.
I enjoy FGO, but I also hate the waste of potential.

[Anonymous No.]

Just a reminder that Koyama needs to be put in exile until Nasu starts Mahoyo again.
And Sakurai needs to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26569771
Tatsunoko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26477248
Fate Realta Nua ending was adapted already by ufotable, plus also received a special manga adaptation included in the Anniversary book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26574353
>Fate Realta Nua ending was adapted by ufotable
It's not, they only animated the "welcome back Shirou" scene for the opening video at the exhibition

[Anonymous No.]

>>26569891
>(Mashu should have been the actual protagonist

BECAUSE SHE'S SECRETLY IS THE PROTAGONIST IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE OBVIOUS WHEN TM HAD THIS CHARACTER FOR QUITE AWHILE AND THEN IS ALL ALRIGHT LETS USE FGO FOR HER RIP TACHIE.

>I enjoy FGO, but I also hate the waste of potential.

At this point, I kinda wished FGO was a MMO or a actual full blown VN instead lel. I think it would still sell because if they kept on making costumes for the servants.

[Anonymous No.]

at least you have new designs....

[Anonymous No.]

>>26571428

Give koyama a break, it's not his fault I bet deep down he fucking wants to do Mahoyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26586500
Since they 'revived' Tachie and turned her into Mashu, could they do the same with Ernest too? Honestly i feel like some parts of his character have been used for Marisbilly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26586500
That's not what I meant, I know Mashu's the closest to a real protagonist, but she's sidelined in her MC role to be a cute heroine which affects her writing a fucking lot. I posted that fanart with "three families" name to make emphasis what I meant. Type Moon has two sides to me, Rule of Cool (oni, Servants, espers, vampires) and Substance (which is given by the complex bonds between the characters, and especially the family and clan connections between them that breathe unique life to their set up). The balance between them is what makes the story good.

Tsukihime features a background of families warring each other, and bonds between sisters, between siblings, and the elder generations that committed mistakes. Aoko and Touko, two recurrent characters in many works, are defined by their sibling rivalry, not just by her powers. Fate is not just a story of Shirou's ideals or Servants, but the story of four families (the founders and the Emiya). With Fate/Zero, El Melloi family was added too (Waver is "adopted" into it). You understand what I mean now?

Fate/Extra is so hopelessly shitty because the characters are just bland clap meme references to old favorites, or completely new and unconnected people with Rani and Leo and his estranged brother being some exception, but they were kind of unexciting in what they offered to the world building.

Fate/Grand Order original cast, though, they have what Extra cast didn't have: we have a set of different people who have relation to each other, work, friends, or family (blood related or adopted one). The "soul" within the cool flashy thing. They also have great, memorable designs without resorting to FSN cast. They can easily-get inserted into the general Type Moon setting (unlike Rani and Leo's family) too. The main story of FGO is the story of those three fractured "families" but what could have been seamlessly put together, is divided and suppressed by fanservice and filler to "foreshadow" the heart of the matter, which executes things awkwardly. Imagine a Fate/Grand Order with focuses on the complex bond of those families, and the people they met and interacted with, in this fantastic save the world backdrop. I give you an example: Nasu dropped the bomb Clocktower mysterious and elusive founder was one of Solomon's disciples and yet, making such great idea as Roman, he never fucking made them interact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26536753
I've read though both recently and I can confirm that Kagetsu Tohya defiantly has a worse translation than Tsukihime. Its mostly legible but there are some scenes that verge on being incomprehensible.

>>26540952
Kagetsu Tohya isn't translated by Mirror Moon, just inspired by them.
>I'm a JOP
I don't think you understand what that means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26590096
>Kagetsu Tohya isn't translated by Mirror Moon, just inspired by them.
Oh you're right. I remembered wrong.

>I don't think you understand what that means.
But I only play games in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26586559
Mahoyo doesn't need need designs. They're literally perfect. Actually I wish Type-Moon would cashgrab Mahoyo and do an HD re-release. There's no way those assets are 576p or whatever the fuck it was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26592539
Yeah, was more on the in the line of "at leat you got SOMETHING"
We literally have had no informations on Mahoyo 2 beside that one inteview years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>26588470
Eh, I'm sure the core of the story is on Roman, Olga, Mashu and Marisbury's toxic influence, but I feel like Kirsch was added later to make telling the story a bit easier. I think that the final chapter of FGO will go back to featuring primarily Ritsuka, Mashu, Olga and Romalev, just like Singularity F.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26592539
>my favourite VN series actually got HD remaster for both oppuses
>but they also changed the godlike voicecast because of "schedule issues"
Careful for what you wish for anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>26599118
Which series?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26599118
Good thing Mahoyo has no voices hahaha. Why the fuck didn't they just reuse the original voices?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26599118
The new guy is fine though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26599317
Kara no Shoujo
>>26599449
I really liked that Mahoyo didn't have voices. Because the thrid installement is gonna come out so they wanna make it consitent.
>>26599756
Suwabe was better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26600638
>Kara no Shoujo
God damn it. This is on my backlog. Fuck that's gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26600638
Oh, I guess I'll play the original version instead of the HD version when I decide to check it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26601493
I wouldn't if I was you. Reiji isn't voiced at all in the original and the HD version makes the game look even more gorgeous.
You can always play the original version of the second game if you want Suwabe that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

So I just finished Last Encore
Jesus fucking christ, that last episode was so fucking boring, what was the point of this entire anime anyway? Was it really worth animating this entire bad ending that had fuckall new to show really?

Nero is excellent, but she certainly doesn't make up for the entire thing. I felt like this adds fucking nothing for fans of Extra like myself.
But I digress, the last episode was just fucking boring, you see the nice fight with gawain and then the last episode is so fucking lame with barely nothing happens. I'm so disappointed, bros, I really liked Extra and this was a letdown

[Anonymous No.]

>>26601915
>Nero is excellent
You know I was going to make fun of you for that, but you know what they say about opinions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26602076
just because sakurai writes like a fucking faggot doesn't mean Nero's character, when written by Nasu, is ruined retroactively

[Anonymous No.]

>>26597013
where is this from it looks hideous

[Anonymous No.]

>>26601892
I think KnS still has the best art I've ever seen in a VN honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>26603877
You haven't seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGwvNG_DWE0

[Anonymous No.]

>>26601915
Sakurai has never written something good and deserves to be stabbed

[Anonymous No.]

>>26607053
Last Encore was mostly written by Nasu though as credited in the scriptbook, though in an interview it's stated that Amari was created by Sakurai. Sakurai was also helping Nasu with the anime script, but the series composition was still just Nasu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26597013
FGO was originally just Solomon's Roman's story. That was the outline Nasu worked in 2013 inspired on Maaya's Song scrap. He obviously add Mashu character when they decided to make Tachi (new) the main heroine, and later (2016) got attached to Olga to think part 2 which is where Kirsch came from. Lev was important from the start too as the most visible and rebel demon god.

Regardless of the process order, I meant to say right now the main story focus is pushed (aside from Mashu) by the personal story of Roman, Kirsch and Olga, which are all related to each other through Marisbilly, in a sort of fuck up pseudo-family. Mashu got included too. This is pretty great and Nasu-like, but is placed off focus because Hakuno 2.0 needs to collect his boring Servant harem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26614741
>by the personal story of Roman, Kirsch and Olga,
Fuck I forget to clarify:
Part 1 was Roman's.
Part 2/first half was Kirsch's.
Part 2/second half will be Olga's.

This is why I included Kirsch because he is the focus and climax of Cosmos of the Lostbelt first half. Olga only takes over after he's gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26614895
He also brought up one of the main themes of the story before he died. "We can't avoid making mistakes, but what's important is how you pick up the pieces afterwards", which is essentially what Sion said in Back Alley Alliance Nightmare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26614741
>>26614895
I think that Mashu and Ritsuka hurt each other as characters. Mashu isn't allowed to be anything other than Ritsuka's narrator, and Ritsuka isn't allowed to have thoughts of his own. Anyway, Mashu's potential relationship with Olga, if Nasu actually allowed it to develop, is more interesting without Guda as mediator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26620442
"Ritsuka" isn't a character to be hurt as far the game goes. Doesn't have a backstory or any discerning feature. He does fuck over Mashu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26441244
I had a similar issue. Did you download a prepatched version? That's what I did at first, and the screen didn't fit either.
If yes, then get a non-patched version and apply the translation patch afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26445781
Soulless means safe and bland.
I do agree that it's an overused buzzword though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26601915
>Nero is excellent
Stopped reading right there. Nero is quite literally the main reason why TM went to shit. Extra was a fucking mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

First fanart that got Akiha right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26645433

[Anonymous No.]

>>26645433
don't google "african neck rings"

[Nasu No.]

Nasu here ama

[Anonymous No.]

>>26648227
Nusa

[Anonymous No.]

>>26648227
uhhh ddd 2

[Nasu No.]

>>26649644
Never ever. Sorry bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26648227
Do you ever roleplay as saber for Takeuchi?

[Nasu No.]

>>26649791
No but he asked me to hump his daki while he watched once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26649690
How deep does the Dr Roman/Dr. Romani and Origa Malion/Olga Marie connection go?

[Anonymous No.]

When are we going to at least get the date for BDs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26648227
Tell takeuchi to stop tracing 3D models and draw faces at more than 2 angles

[Anonymous No.]

>>26654799
Nasu recycled name syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26656143
HF3? It will probably be out in Spring 2021

[Anonymous No.]

>>26663103
>Nanaya Kiri
>Emiya Kiri

[Anonymous No.]

Is the extra anime worth it or should I play the game

[Anonymous No.]

FSN and Tsukihime have such mystical and great urban atmosphere underneath all the chuuni.
Is there anything similar to them out there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26669004
Play the game then watch the anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26674912
>Is there anything similar to them out there?
Not really. Supposedly Masada's stuff (Dies Irae, etc.) is top tier chuuni though so very likely you'll enjoy that too. It's still on my backlog as well.

[Anonymous No.]

These people fucking exist.
In regards to why people hate Scat, king incel wrote.

>"The origin of it is essentially popularity backlash, in a way it's not much different to Jean Alter, but Scathach has managed to trigger different groups of obsessed people overtime. The guy on /tmg/ is a unique case, so is the very small and noisy minority of Cufags that have had a major meltdown over the initial spotlight she got many years ago. I freaking wish she had the spotlight and focus that some of her critics projected on her, but she really doesn't have a heroine saga or focus in FGO, like say, Musashi. She barely appears, and it took a long ass time for her to be updated. It's absurdly strange considering the interest she generates, why hasn't she been focused more, and given better characterization. Not that I don't enjoy her as she is, but even I can admit it could be better."

>"She also has a big and loyal fanbase too, admittedly most people just like her because of her looks, I personally like her for the mystique of her background, her celtic mythos and her personality. But barely anyone tries or can carry much of a character discussion."

>"As a Shishoufag, you just learn to ignore, navigate through it, or maybe sometimes even address some of these issues. But at the end of the day, you really don't need to be too concerned, the amount of art, doujins and the promissing game updates more than make up for the negativity that exists in some small pockets of the fanbase."

I won't bother with counterpoints, everything that has been said in the past is enough, but they really need to give up.
Imagine being a fucking Scatfag and acting as the VICTIM.
She ruined Aoko due to retards who know nothing misplacing everything, she ruined Celtic and Norse mythos, she ruined Koyama, she is why Sakurai should burn in hell.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCK SCAT
FUCK NASU
FUCK JANNIES
AND MOST OF ALL, FUCK FUCKING FATE AND GACHASHIT
GIVE ME MY TM BACK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

The most important day of the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26687525
Kagetsu Tooya remake when?

[Anonymous No.]

Why was she so disgusted with him? Don't girls usually think it's cute when guys look past gender?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26700229
This takes place in like 2000 Japan not 2020 America anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26700646
I thought girls were more or less the same across time and borders...

[Anonymous No.]

>>26674912
I just want more urban fantasy stuff like it, even normal books

[Anonymous No.]

>>26700854
They just follow the predominant social attitudes of the time/place they live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26687525

[Anonymous No.]

>>26681929
Dies irae doesn't show the urban fantasy setting as much though.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you consider Prisma Illya a valid Fate canon?

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I can be bred by Shirou
but while he nutted he must imagining sword hentai

[Anonymous No.]

>>26721175
There is no valid TM canon with the amount of retcons and weird shit they pull

[Anonymous No.]

>>26674912
>>26700906
Well if you mean fantasy stuff takes place in modern time just like Fate and Tsukihime does, I would recommend Umineko. It's a mystery VN that mixes between reality and fantasy pretty well. The good stuff takes really long time to get there, but it's really worth it because later on, it gets REALLY good and feels like a Fate spinoff. While it has no gameplay, the mysteries requires a ton of thinking and theorizing. Just letting you know the creator did take inspiration from Tsukihime for the series, and Touhou as well, in fact, it has Touhou-tier soundtrack.