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Previous thread : >>26148646

It's that time again. Let's have intense debates over whether the characters from Higurashi, Umineko, Higanbana, Rose Guns Days, Trianthology, Ciconia and other 07th works are the pinnacle of human humiliation, and if patting them could save them from this cursed existence. I personally believe that Rethabile, the monkey princess, is a good candidate to try this on.

Complete 07th Expansion works link :
https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

Supposedly this is a link for the Umineko mansion plans :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nSTEl__gqcTf1cUEuckCY7PRazALL2gb

>> No.26195256
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What the fuck you were right there are retards and other virtue signaling idiots on Twitter complaining about the lewd fanservice designs
Where were they when the gacha came out

>> No.26196292

>>26195256
>Where were they when the gacha came out
The gacha just came out and they're here. What the fuck are you talking about?

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>>26196292
I don't know how I could have typed my post without re-reading but I wrote this extremely poorly.
What I meant to say is how come they aren't complaining about the very nature of the gacha game/genre whoring out the characters instead of stopping at the maid outfits that we're supposed to be disgusted at for the hate crime of exposing underage fictional characters' skin.

I hope this made sense

>> No.26197113
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Requesting headpat for Rika (nekomimi).

>> No.26197459
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ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

cmon guys accept the real truth

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>>26197113

>> No.26198294
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>>26197960
Thanks!

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>>26198294
This one is slightly better as it keeps the blush and her mouth

>> No.26198758
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Who the fuck started the headpat trend and why is it so relaxing

>> No.26200007
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>>26198758
I don't know the answer to either of those questions, but these are fun to make.

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>>26198758
>>26200007
great

>> No.26201757
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26201757

ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

AHEM -BONUS robot shannon:
many have used as proof of shkanontrice the fact that in the 7th game Will ask Shannon to call Kanon to speak with him but then shannon becomes a robot and refuses to do it.
For Shkanontrice this comes from the fact that they 2 cannot be together but instead the solution to this fact is written in umineko.
Will compares this situation to a video game, even if you know the solution you can't go straight to the end but you have to pass all the levels before reach it, Will had solved the game after reading the 4th chapter (better than me) and knew that the culprit was Kanon and since his job was to find Beatrice's killer why not talk to the culprit?
But Yasu wanted Will to hear her side of the story before her requiem, so he ordered Shannon to stop him.

again Erikantrice destory Shkanon arguments

>> No.26201852

Then fuck let other threads die before a new one

>> No.26202131
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>>26201852
Seems like this trick worked only once. It's a shame.

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>>26201757

>> No.26202442
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>>26202131
What's more shameful is THIS

>> No.26202448

Reminder to report any shitposters pretending to be Italianon. Stop trying to derail the thread.
>>26197459
>>26201757
>>26202266

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>>26202448
They are one yet many

>> No.26203053

>>26202869
mion... easy on the parfaits

>> No.26203081

>>26202266
Why is it wrong in episode 4?
I don't exactly remember the circumstances.

>> No.26203561

>>26203081
all parents + servants were in the same room but no one tell to battler that Shannon or Kanon wasnt in the room + one of them declare himself the new head of the family

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REMINDER that Italianon was PATHETICALLY RAPED as a child and is so mind broken he can't even differentiate between reality and fiction when it comes little children in anime.
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S26096934#p26144151
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S26096934#p26144546

>>26203561
Was she gentle with you? Or was it much more forceful? Do you have a rape fetish now or are you too scared of any sexual contact?

Also what's your favorite Higurashi episode everyone?
For me it'd have to be Tatari.

>> No.26204151
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>>26203561
if you ask for the real problems of ep4 is:

Red truth: Kanon is dead. Among the five people in Kyrie's group, he was the first to die. In short, he was the 9th victim.

6 of the first twligth + Jessica + George = 8 victims so Kanon is the 9 perfect

but look at this red truth

> Among the five people in Kyrie's group

5 PEOPLE = 5 BODIES ACCORDING WITH EP6

but Shannon and Kanon are the same person so the people group is reduced by 1 none of the 8 victims can join this group , GOhda and kumasawa are locked and Maria and Battler are not accomplices.

result a person is missed
Shkanontrice violate the red truth
SO SHKANONTRICE IS WRONG

>> No.26204249

>>26204151
Do you still see your rapist? Was it your aunt or possibly a school teacher? You act like it doesn't affect you but clearly it has since you sperg out about loli in these threads. Are you seeing a therapist?

>> No.26204452
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>The rape victim is back
This isn’t your therapy session. Get help somewhere else dude it’s embarrassing.

>> No.26204928

>>26204249
>Do you still see your rapist? Was it your aunt or possibly a school teacher?
I bet it was a hot milf like Eva.

>> No.26207096

>>26204151
Trash

>> No.26207544

>>26207096
not an argument GOAT

>> No.26207625
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>> No.26207677

>>26207544
Have you had sex since you were raped or has being raped been your only sexual encounter.

>> No.26207678

>>26207625
fake tits

>> No.26207755

There is a Japanese singer with the same name as George ( 譲治 jooji).
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BB%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8

>> No.26207761
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>>26207678
without love it cannot be seen

>> No.26207826

Why doesn't this one faggot in these threads who brings up rape every second post get perma'd?
It's off-topic, it's about personal information and it's basically spam at this point.

>> No.26207872

>>26207826
/jp/ jannies are non existent. If they were I'm sure Italianon would've been banned a while ago for advertising

>> No.26208541

>>26207826
Maybe we should do our part of the job and report them.

>> No.26208651

>>26207826
>>26207872
>>26208541
3 spam post that ruin the thread
disguting

>> No.26208899
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>>26208651
Sorry.

>> No.26208955
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I don't know who to vote for!!!!

I love every single one of these characters. I'll vote for Meijiu or the thirteenth step guy. No, this can't do. I'll vote for Irie then!!! No this can't do either!!! Chloe will get my vote ><
Or maybe Naima wow...

Or ange!! Ange will get my vote!!!

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>>26208899
How did R07 get away with this red truth

>>26208955
Always vote for Ange

>> No.26209041

>>26208955
vote Erika
is erika win END OF THE GOLDEN WITCH ANIME

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>>26208997
But everyone will vote for her!! I want to vote for a likeable character who isn't recognized to its just worth.......
That's it. I'll help promoting ciconia by voting for Andry. I love his design and how laid back he is. That's it. You won't be able to convince me otherwise. Andry it is.


Or maybe Midori? What about the female teacher who liked shotas in Higanbana...
>>26209041
No italianon I can't. I can't vote for Erika knowing a lot of people will vote for her too. I know it's dishonest but I need to do my part in pushing underrated characters into the spotlight.

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>>26209041
>>26208955
and let DEEN do ep5 anime? not a chance
vote for Rosa

>> No.26209235

>erika
>intelectual rapist
It makes so much sense now wtf!

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I capitulated. I voted for Naima. Please don't blame me wow......

>> No.26209324

>>26209143
>>26209207
i see many umineko chiru anime hints on twitter by ryu and even by ufotable

so this is a test IF ERIKA WIN THEN END OF THE GOLDEN WITCH ANIME

WE NEED IT GUYS

>> No.26209351

>>26209235
Erika raped Italianon now he's spreading misinformation about her as revenge.

>> No.26209559
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>>26209207
Good post

>> No.26210419
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>>26203053
What, will something bad happen if she doesn't?

>> No.26210421
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>>26208955
rika is the best character nanodesu, the symbol of miracle and improveness, the character of kinzo is also inspired by rika

>> No.26210561

>>26207678
Do I need to break out the 1000+ word analysis on Erika's breasts not being flat?

>> No.26210569

>>26208541
I did, but you see the results...

>> No.26210625

>>26210561
erika is kanon
her tits are only big in meta-world like Beatrice tits

>> No.26210818
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>>26210625
This piece of official artwork very clearly shows her chest and cleavage. The swimsuit and duct tape imply that this is on Rokkenjima rather than the meta world. Not that it really matters though because Erika's appearance doesn't change between the two. It's only a difference in artists that affects her chest.

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>>26209324
>Ufotable
If you're talking about this, it's an old fake.

>> No.26211278

>>26210818
I want to milk Erika.

>> No.26211282
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Virgilius-Erika!

>> No.26211446

>>26211282
Erika cannot be associated with words starting with "virgi(...)"

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I'm still voting for Luci-nee... I wonder if she's voting for me ;w;

>> No.26211873
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Kei-chan looks like THIS?

>> No.26211947

>>26210818
Why does Erika look so hot in every outfit EXCEPT her normal one?

>> No.26211980

>>26211873
No Mion, he doesn't.

>> No.26212021
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>>26211947
Because those are Jessica's clothes, not hers. They limit her sex appeal in exchange for a more modest, elegant look.

>> No.26212037

>>26211282
cute Erikanon

>> No.26212068

>>26210818
not original grapich

>> No.26212118

Fucking kek Meixue is really talking as if she lived in the A3W era

>> No.26212187
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>>26211446
What could it mean...!?

>>26212068
We've had this exact same discussion before, to the point where I already have visual evidence ready. Here you can see erika's original artwork. Even in her regular dress, you can still see part of the curve of her breast.

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>>26212187
just position is the dress look here the ribbon destroy your theory

>> No.26212491
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>>26211873
hinamizawa nipples syndrome

>> No.26212500

>>26207826
Normally this would seem correct. But it is directed at Italianon, a prolific spammer who disclosed this information himself due to his ongoing mental health issues.

>> No.26212705

>>26212432
She's standing at a slight angle. Most characters are. Her breasts aren't so large that the warrant a full outline, and at that angle you'd probably only see signs of bulging on the opposite side. And do you really expect Ryukishi to have a nuanced skill with drawing perspective?

>> No.26212721

>>26211947
She looks sexy in her normal outfit when you see the whole body, when you can see those long legs covered by patterned pantyhose. The way the skirt flares out instead of draping over her legs is the best part. You can be a couple feet away and still see up her skirt as long as you're at a 45 degree angle from the ground! You don't even have to be directly under her. The way it bounces too, any lively movements would give a clear view. The problem is that she's always displayed from the waist up like everyone else, giving the outfit a claustrophobic and modest apearance.

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>>26212705
look here in the offical artwork
her tits are big here but not enougth to move a ribbon

like i said the tits are big only in the wedding dress because it's the meta-world
>And do you really expect Ryukishi to have a nuanced skill with drawing perspective?
look eva sprites the draw on the dress and the belt are changed according with the level of tits
so he can draw perspective

>> No.26212887

>>26212705
Just ignore. The pic clearly shows the red line highlighting the outline of Erika's right boob but he ignores that, stop replying to obvious bait.

>> No.26212908

>>26212705
i mean look here sorry
>>26210818

>> No.26212954

>>26212887
yes and and the left part there is nothing

Goat who focus only in the part he want to see and not look the full picture
pathetic

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>>26212721
That's a good point. The biggest source of sex appeal from her main dress comes from those gorgeous rose-pattern pantyhose. The way in which they accentuate her legs and thighs is exquisite. And her skirt, while ornate, is much shorter than the massive hoop skirts most witches wear, letting you appreciate the view even more. I'm not sure about the claim of being able to see up it though. It warrants further thought.

>>26212887
You're probably right. I just feel obligated to respond as an authority on WTC breasts.

>> No.26213123

>>26204249
>Are you seeing a therapist?
>therapist
>the rapist
Wait until the little faggot finds out they are the same person.

>> No.26213164

>>26212721
> when you can see those long legs
Isn't Erika pretty short though?

>> No.26213169

>>26213102
>use manga as arguments
pathetic anon

>> No.26213260
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>>26212954
sneed

>> No.26213262

>>26210818
>official artwork
Nothing is more official than the original designs, stop using official stuff created by some other company as proof of anything. Remember that Alchemist made Satokp flat, which goes against the whole point of her character design and creates several logic errors.

>> No.26213281

>>26209207
mommy

>> No.26213353

>>26212864
Read what I said about Erika's breasts not being large enough to warrant some details.
Eva's breasts are massive and therefore do all sorts of things to her tight dress. Erika's chest is only moderately sized, and her dress is much more loose and poofy. The fact that we can see the details of her breast on one end is already enough to show that she's decently endowed.

>>26213169
You really need to stop denouncing the entire manga like that. It's by far the most carefully crafted and detailed of the Umineko adaptions, with only the Alchemist port coming close with all their assets.

>> No.26213356
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>>26213281
MOMMY

>> No.26213380

>>26212118
She got slightly corrupted overseas, but nothing too bad. Ciconia AOU is the ultimate end goal of the western globalists. Notice how Jayden doesn't even have the capacity to doubt all this mental filter bullshit and how Miyao justifies the government planning your whole life ahead of time.

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>> No.26213464

>>26213380
>the military literally uses the mentally ill as weapons of war
Seems familiar.

>> No.26213482

>>26213353
first erika tits are big than are medium size
even a medium size tits can move a dress anon

>> No.26213490

>>26213102
Am I the only one who thinks Evatrice and Erika are kinda similar? What a damn shame because I prefer former over later.
Although, I would like Rosatrice a lot more (if she were a real character).

>> No.26213498

Is there a release date for Umineko Gold yet?

>> No.26213499

>>26213164
She's short, yes, but she has a good torso:leg ratio.

>> No.26213523

>>26213498
All the people involved joined the 41%.

>> No.26213525

>>26213498
It's literally dead dude. The creator and all the VAs wiped it from their profiles etc.

>> No.26213540

>>26213262
When the original art is ZUN level, you're forced to expand your scope to take into account other officially published works. Otherwise you end up like Touhou where any character can be depicted as a flat loli to a busty milf without issue.

Of course, I'm not saying you should blindly accept any single piece of art as absolute canon. Rather, you should look at as many examples as you can and draw your own conclusions from the consensus given. I've based my interpretation of Erika's chest on everything I could find. OMK, PS3, Manga, bonus artwork, you name it.

>> No.26213585

Why does Kuraudia have such long legs even though she looks short from the arse up?

>> No.26213654

>>26213585
Side effects of sóy sauce consumption.

>> No.26213674
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Rosa thigh!

>> No.26213780

Rudolf = sloth

Rosa = pride

Anyone who thinks their sins are lust and wrath doesn't understand their characters.

>> No.26213791

>>26213674
god that is alluring
got a chub just seeing that and twitched when I imagine her spread those legs every so slowly

>> No.26213938
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>>26213353
Look also the corset confirm that Erika have 0 tits

>> No.26213964

Ahem...

Diaper-wearing quadruple-amputee Ange!

>> No.26213979

>>26213780
I mean kinda, but there are candidates better suited for those sins.

>> No.26214182
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>>26213979
Eva's sin is lust. It means obsessing over an object of desire to the point of becoming irrational in your life decisions. In her case, she's obsessed with obtaining the headship, more for the sake of it than for any practical reason or monetary gain. This lead to her pushing her dreams onto George, who became an incel with poor social skills.

Hideyoshi's sin is gluttony. This is represented by his fat figure and his food company. Gluttony doesn't just mean eating too much, but rather over-indulging on a good thing, way more than necessary, to the point it becomes detrimental to one's well being. Hideyoshi is trying to extort money from the main family because he wanted to expand his business and sold his stock to the wrong people. He already had a successful company, but he wanted more and more success, which ruined everything.

Rudolf's sin is sloth. This is represented by his laid back demeanor and his fight with Belphegor in EP3. He's a guy who would rather do shady stuff, scam people and move outside the law than put honest work and effort into his business. He's a crook. It's the definition of laziness. And this sin is what fucks over his company when his schemes and dirty practices catch up with him. Hell, this is also the reason he did that with the babies, too lazy to man up and deal with two households. He'd rather pull some strings and clean his hands off the whole mess.

Kyrie's sin is envy, obviously. This is made clear in the story, and it's also the reason she fucks over her sister. She was envious of her freedom and decided to steal it away from her.

Rosa's sin is pride. She has anger issues and sleeps around with men, but the root cause of her problems is her pride. She is ashamed of Maria's weirdness and tries to beat the aspergers out of her. She's too prideful to admit Maria needs special treatment, because it would mean she's somehow "defective". So instead of hiring a babysitter, arranging for a special needs teacher or visiting a psychologist, she ignores the problem and beats the shit out of her hoping it will fix her childish behavior. This is why she dies inside every time someone even remotely implies Maria isn't acting like her age. She's too prideful.

Literally no one else is better suited for those sins. All the adults engage in multiple sins, but the root cause of their problems AND their other sins, are these.

>> No.26214379

>>26213490
They are similar in what they bring to the story. Evatirce is a new witch who comes and shakes up the formula of the first 2 Episodes and conflicts with Beato over what it means to be a witch. Erika is a new detective who comes in and shakes up the formula of the first 4 Episodes while conflicting with Battler over what it means to be a detective. Add to that their arrogance and wild personalities and it's easy to see the similarities.

>> No.26214706

>>26214182
Rudolf literally killed everyone because he wanted to spend the rest of his life lazing about in the Bahamas, drinking pina colada and never working again.

>> No.26214949

>>26213780
Natsuhi is way more suited to pride than Rosa. Just look at the lengths she goes to to keep up appearances.

Similarly, Krauss suits sloth more than Rudolf. In contrast with Eva who's all about hard work (in order to gain what she wants, hence her being greed), Krauss was born into a superior position from which he doesn't really need to do anything to stand above his siblings. Whenever Eva tries to show how she's better than him, he always falls back on the fact that he's the eldest son and therefore the most appropriate to inherit the headship.

There's also the nature of his career and the way he handles it. As an investor, Krauss naturally doesn't do a lot of work himself, instead using his money to fund other's exploits in the hopes he'll make a profit should they succeed. Yet it's mentioned that Krauss doesn't have enough confidence in his foresight, making it difficult for him to commit to his investments in the long run.

Rudolf's lust and Rosa's anger are some of the main attributers to their relationships with their children going sour.

>> No.26214983

>>26214379
Evatrice was putted by ikuko-yasu in epp3 since Battler discover about she was alive and the theories about her being culprit

>> No.26215015

Would Maria bother taking a bath if she's home alone for three days and doesn't feel like it?

>> No.26215172

>>26214182
Don't post Gabriel again. I want to kill that fucker.

>> No.26215213
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Right
I remember asking myself this question at the end of RGD even though I kinda forgot. But the doubt remains : who did he end up with?

>> No.26215391

>>26214182
Eva is Greed. She's ambitious yes, but she's more than willing to work for the things she wants. She's just like Mammon in that sense.

I think the best evidence of Hideyoshi being gluttony actually comes from the circumstances leading to his financial trouble. Gluttony also refers to things like overindulgence and hastiness. The whole reason Hideyoshi's company is in trouble to begin with is because he rushed into making it stock listed and then had his feet swept out from under him. Said company also just happens to be deal with the food industry. There are also other small tidbits here and there that further show his "gluttonous" behavior, like the time when he tried to forcibly grab Maria's letter from her, or the fact that he's quick to lend out spending money to children.

>> No.26215598

>>26215213
Probably Meryl. Someone proved a few threads back (look it up on warosu) that it couldn't possibly be a random unnamed character for various reasons.

>> No.26215625

>>26214182
what about natsuhi and krauss, wrath and greed
neither of those are really greedy, they're simply afraid of going bankrupt, wrath is also better for rosa

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>>26213356
I really should make more of these... Actually, I'm not sure if I ever posted it, but I also did her other pose with her fan covering her face, which lead to some nice squishing from her chest as it's pressed by arm.

>> No.26215817

>>26215213
There might be hints in Toratsugu's design or some figure of speech he uses.

>> No.26216100

>>26214949
>Natsuhi is way more suited to pride than Rosa. Just look at the lengths she goes to to keep up appearances.
I always felt she was coping for replacing her old life with an idiot husband and a crazy father in law. She feels like she made a mistake, which is when the 'Ushiromiya eagle on your heart' delusion comes in.

>> No.26216128

Nina wears a Final Fantasy ass dress because customers want a cute exotic lolita, huh.

Imagine being a literal prostitute and still having dignity, lmao.

>> No.26216260

>>26193919
Rosa > Natsuhi > Eva > Kyrie
this is a fact!

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>>26215598
Oh, might make sense. They shared a moment in the hospital after you know who kicked the bucket. I'll have to dig and find those posts though, thanks.
>>26215817
Ah, the joys of being only able to read in western languages. One day, one day I'll learn Japanese to figure these things out.

>> No.26216992
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>>26215625
Rosa grows angry when her pride is hurt or her daughter makes her feel embarrassment.

>>26214949
Natsuhi isn't really prideful deep down, her pride for the Ushiromiya name is sort of a Stockholm syndrome to deal with her situation.

Krauss isn't lazy, he's just lacking talent and competence. You can't say someone is lazy just because their job involves sitting around and letting the investments grow. Not all investors are lazy. Also, sloth is a particular, sinful type of laziness that represents Rudolf a lot better. Krauss just wants to become a legend like his father but lacks the talent.

>>26215391
Eva doesn't want the headship out of greed, the money is just a bonus. All of them are greedy, but the SIN of greed is way more than simple greed. Eva wants the headship because of a lifelong irrational obsession with no practical use, which fits lust a lot better.

>> No.26217168

>>26216773
WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL ANGE PICTURE

>> No.26217226

>>26216100
Perhaps, but just compare instances of both Natsuhi and Rosa getting upset
Natsuhi frequently scolds Jessica over any little things she feels is improper, not wanting to look bad in front of others.
Rosa will also scold Maria, but she often tries to bottle it up until she can no longer stand it, at which point she flies into a huge inconsolable rage.
Both are upset over the same thing, and yet Natsuhi feels more hung up on appearance due to her low status in the family despite her noble birth and marriage to Krauss, leading to a sort of inferiority complex. Rosa meanwhile feels like she's lashing out at the unfairness of her life and the world around her, with Maria simply being the only target for her to direct her feelings towards.

Here's my take

Pride = Natsuhi
Envy = Kyrie
Wrath = Rosa
Greed = Eva
Sloth = Krauss
Gluttony = Hideyoshi
Krauss = Sloth
Lust = Rudolf

>> No.26217227

>>26216100
>She feels like she made a mistake, which is when the 'Ushiromiya eagle on your heart' delusion comes in.
This applies to trannies trying to convert others to make them feel better about their ruined genitals and perma-infected wound. They want other people to make the same mistake, share their pain and contribute to the delusion that everything is fine and they didn't make a mistake.

>> No.26217258

Am I the only one who didn't like Erika's appearance in ep8?
It feels inorganic compared to the ending of ep6 where she had a small change of heart, but comes back and becomes generic underling-archetype all over again.

>> No.26217308
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>>26217168
It's another of edit anon's

>> No.26217338

>>26216773
They also appear together in the Last Season opening. Very close together, multiple times.

>> No.26217365

>>26217226
i'm sure this is also universally agreed upon

>> No.26217376
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>>26217258
because she is not anymore Beatrice but a virtual personality created by Ange's brain

>> No.26217395

Since it's a possibility that Selcom translations could be manipulated and aren't entirely truthful, do you think it could possibly be an allegory for how people can skew the reality of events in other countries with false translations of the news, etc?

>> No.26217518

>>26217376
Erikantriceanon?

>> No.26217580

>>26217258
For me it felt like she was just having fun for shits and giggles. She was no longer being tested or challenged and could just revel in dominating the mystery she'd already solved. Lambda mentions in the final tea party how Bern was playing the role of the villain, and I think it was the same for Erika at that point. Hence why even afterwards there were no hard feelings between her and Dlanor, despite the apparent falling out between them in the golden land.

>> No.26217678

>>26217258
She should have stayed dead. It would have added to both her and Bern's characters.
>>26217227
>This applies to trannies trying to convert others to make them feel better about their ruined genitals and perma-infected wound. They want other people to make the same mistake, share their pain and contribute to the delusion that everything is fine and they didn't make a mistake.
Yes. Interestingly, Yasu's perspective is different.

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>>26216260
So quality is inversely proportional to breast size?

>> No.26217720

>>26217226
Do you think that's the reason why Ange always hangs out with Mammon? Because she is more or less extension of mommy Eva?

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>>26217518
yes

>> No.26217867

>>26217698
Nappi should be the bustiest mother imo

>> No.26218057
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Ok here is what I don't understand. You have faggots saying that the manga "isn't canon" because Erikantrice is a theory looking at the original VN by itself before R07 "changed his mind". Why are you using Umineko Saku is evidence for your theory when it was released after the manga and the original VN? It seems like you're only willing to pick and choose what to accept as canon for your theory which makes you hypocritical.

>> No.26218201
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>>26217720
I think it's more a case of dramatic irony, her best friend sharing qualities with her most hated enemy. Their friendship further highlights how Ange and Eva could have reconciled had things gone differently. Hell, we even get a funny panel in the Episode 8 manga of Eva yelling at Mammon, presumably due to the later saying how she wants to keep 9-year-old Ange all to herself.

>> No.26218329

>>26218057
>It seems like you're only willing to pick and choose what to accept as canon for your theory which makes you hypocritical.
Yes, that's exactly what he does. He doesn't deny the manga out of some dislike for it, but merely because it includes damning evidence that he can't refute. So instead he ignores it.

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>>26218057
because the VN was produced by R07 not like the manga
then according with the high numbers of Erikantrice clues in saku R07 cant endure anymore

>> No.26218487

>>26218329
nope the manga is change,add and remove half of the story
even the red truth are changed + i already proof that manga solution is wrong sicne genji cant kill no onwe and closed room circle is impossible

>> No.26218572

While I don't believe in Erikantrice theory, I do believe that Erika's game/meta personality is based on Yasu.

- Erika is parodying protagonists of detective novels.
- She has a weird obsession with Battler.
- Feels betrayed by a man.
- She's antagonistic towards Ushiromiya family.
- Constantly bullies and harasses Natsuhi of all people.

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>>26217867
It's possible. I've looked through a bunch of artwork for comparisons, and it's a pretty close race between Kyrie, Eva, and Natsuhi. I could honestly see it going any way between them depending on the artist. The only consistent thing is that Rosa is always the smallest by a wide margin.

>> No.26218634
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26218634

Maria's sin is being too cute.

The sight of the naked body of a loli is so corrupting and tempting, it should never be bared, even in solitude. For though the eyes of men may look away, the eyes of the Lord are always watching.

>> No.26218640

>>26218361
The VN and Manga were written by R07. What's your definition of "produced"? The fact that he didn't draw it? That has nothing to do with the writing.

Erikantrice has to work across all different versions of Umineko that R07 has written in order for it to stand, you can't just pick and choose what to use as evidence. Also answer me this.

Do you think R07 made the answer Erikantrice in the VN, changed his mind to Shkanontrice for the manga, then changed it back again for Umineko Saku? Is that what you're implying?

>> No.26218808

>>26218572
>Erika is parodying protagonists of detective novels.
not only that anon
remember that Erika is the worst detective ever
didnt check the body even with the same fake death of her favorite book 10 little island
- She has a weird obsession with Battler.
not only Battler she is obsessed with natsuhi too and hate jessica the girl who steal her place

Erika is stange acts can be explained with just 1 sentece she is yasu

>> No.26218883

>>26218487
Genji can kill, what are you on about? Are you trying to employ Van Dine? Because it's already pretty sketchy as to whether Umineko closely adheres to them, having broken quite a few.

Also screw you. The Umineko manga is easily the best attempt at translating any of Ryukishi's works into another medium.

>> No.26219027

Just ignore the troll, for fuck's sake. Stop replying. Did you already forget what he said and did?

>> No.26219144

>>26218361
Ryukishi was heavily involved in the making of the manga, especially in Episode 8.

>> No.26219197

It's not impossible that Genji is furniture too. He doesn't have facial hair and is never implied to have a wife or children.

>> No.26219205

>>26218640
Nope the firsy 7 chapteters of the manga were produced without any interactions with R07 only the 8 he confirm that is truth without giving to them any help

>Erikantrice has to work across all different versions of Umineko that R07
Erikantrice is Based only on umineko VN not on the anime and not on the manga

>Do you think R07 made the answer Erikantrice in the VN
I already explain it

rememeber wehn Lambda confirm Natsuhi culrpti theory in ep5 even if she knew it was wrong?
because a truth that cant be found has no rigth of be called truth

Erikantrice lost this rigth because no one found it so Shkanontrice won the rigth of be called truth and r07 confirm it
>saku
saku is official part of the vn epsidoe 9 so he cant confirm here both erikantrice and shkanontrice

>>26218883
genji cant kill van dyne rules
a servant cant kill

also closed room circle is impossible since the chapel cant be closed with a master key

>>26219027
go back Gaot
no one is speaking with you

>> No.26219290

It's funny how even the lewd talk is more productive than the theorizing.

>> No.26219318

>>26219144
never involved in the first 7 chapter and just in the 8th

>> No.26219427

>>26219197
forniture mean someone who cant love
Genji loved Kinzo but his love was impossible

>> No.26219887

>>26219427
They specifically say that Genji's meaning of furniture is different from Shannon and Kanon's

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>>26219427
>forniture mean someone who cant love
>Genji loved Kinzo but his love was impossible
Nfu-fu-fu-fu! Does that also mean Battler and Yasu/Kanon would be a same-sex couple?

>> No.26220020

>>26219318
I kinda doubt that, but even if it is the case it doesn't matter since 8 has so much of the answers added.

>> No.26220078

>>26219887
w8 wtf? any source?

>> No.26220369

Ryukishi said in the last interview with Entegram that his favorite Umineko episodes are Banquet and Dawn.
How does that make you feel? I'm pleasantly surprised with ep 3. Didn't expect it to be one of his favorite chapters despite writing it completely from scratch.

>> No.26220373

>>26219887
in erikantrice the meaning is the same for genji shannon and kanon
shkanontrice as always change meaning when it favor them
>>26220020
chapter 8 is shkanotnrice prize to win the rigth of be called turth
>>26219935
Kanon is an incest monsters
no puberty mean no female body and no child

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You should probably read this.

>> No.26220942
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>>26220654
already did
enjoy your price
where r07 admit that Shkanontrice is a stole from theory Mion=Shion

Belive that R07 choice as solution another person idea

>> No.26221103

Holy fuck I hate Rena so fucking much. I still have five episodes to go, but she's less likable than Erika and Bern. Literally worse than Teppei. What a fucking annoying, smug, pretentious, know-it-all bitch. And an author's waifu mary sue too. I cannot even immerse myself in the story because the only emotion I feel is hatred for the orange cunt. I don't even find her attractive in a perverse way like I do Erika. I was actually glad when she died in Onikakushi and I don't think I will ever change my mind on that.

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>> No.26221112
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Poyo, poyo! Keropoyo! The witch returns!! Last method wasn't efficient enough, poyo!

>> No.26221232
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26221232

I assume I can find the Higurashi console arcs translated in English within the MEGA link? I made the thread without even checking its contents.
I was thinking it would be nice to finally see what they're about, after finishing my RGD re-read.

>> No.26221295

>>26221103
>orange cunt
We've seen her arse in the anime, but you can't know for a fact if the carpet matches the drapes. The only character whose pussy was canonically shown to us is Satoko.

>> No.26221394

>>26221295
A cunt as a person, not an actual orange cunt. I really don't care about what it looks like.

>> No.26221403

>>26221103
If you hate her so much, why not add the fact that she shits from her arse to the list of complaints? That's definitely a negative trait.

>> No.26221482

>>26221394
>not wanting to see a hated person naked so you can mock and humiliate them

>> No.26221528

>>26221109
I love how even Natsumi Kei calls out George being FAT even though he is slim as fuck like a yaoi character in the manga.

>> No.26221585

>>26221103
>five episodes to go
But anon, Higurashi is 9 episodes long. You can't just end it at the 8th arc.

>> No.26221657

>>26221528
She's calling Ange fat too.
>>26221482
I don't want to see her. Clothed or naked.

>> No.26221697

>>26221585
>Higurashi is 9 episodes long
Did you just forget the existence of Kokoroiyashi arc?

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>>26221528
To be fair, I'm pretty sure those little redubbed extras are all by the localizers at yenpress.
The mangaka tend to draw their own new stuff for omake instead of reusing pages from the manuscript.

>> No.26221784

>>26221657
Ange is cute that way, so no problem.
>tfw no chubby Ange fanarts

>> No.26221804
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26221804

>>26221109
>>26221657
Does it still count as being fat when it's all in her boobs, butt, and thighs? her waist is still pretty trim.

>> No.26221814

Witches and Woodlands predicted Keropoyo = Erika.

That's more mindblowing than the fact that Jessica's got a hairy pussy.

>> No.26221832

>>26221737
I know and I love the idea.

>> No.26221859

>>26221232
There are not in the mega. If you want to read them, you should download Himatsubushi and Matsuribayashi, then applied 07th mod on it. With the installer, you can install them.

>> No.26221954

>tfw it's possible to utterly despise a cutie like Rena to the point that having her arse on your face would be 100% disgusting without even a hint of lewdness, because you hate her so much
Lewd!

>> No.26222072

>>26221784
>>26221804
Ange's body type is supposed to be like Caroline Ray, the pornstar. Look it up. That's Ange's body, more skinny than chubby but not actually skinny. She's plump in the right places.

>> No.26222137

>>26222072
This, fuck the redesigns.

>> No.26222370

>>26221954
I wouldn't want to read a scene where that happens with Keiichi, at least.

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>>26222072
While we're on the topic, Ryukishi has in the past offered a few tidbits about characters proportions via the official twitter

https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/364753945270296576
>Erika is the height of an average high school girl. Dlanor is closer to that of an elementary school girl. However, since her physique has grown to adulthood, rather than a loli, she gives the impression of a short highschool girl.

https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/321951000774733824
>About the size of 2 Kodama watermelons. But surprisingly soft. How mysterious!

>> No.26222452
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>>26221859
Damn, that's a shame. Would have been more convenient this way. Thanks in any case, I know what to do now

>> No.26222462

>>26221814
Holy FUCK, even the kero kero at the end of each sentence!

>> No.26222500

>>26222452
You're having fun making these aren't you

>> No.26222536

>Tfw.........

>No doujinshi where Eva has sex with young men to comfort herself after losing her family
>No doujinshi where Kyrie and Asumu has a competition during threesome to win over Rudolf's heart
>No doujinshi where Ange is bullied and forced to masturbate in front of her class
>No doujinshi where Rosa has to earn her rent money by working as high-class prostitue
>No doujinshi where Jessica has orgy with goat buttlers while Kanon is watching her.
>No doujinshi where Battler bitchslaps Beatrice and dominates her into complete submission

this is not fair bros
where are all the good stuffs

>> No.26222576

>>26222536
You just have shit fetishes. We do need more doujins though.

>> No.26222614

>>26222536
>>No doujinshi where Jessica has orgy with goat buttlers while Kanon is watching her.
Reverse Jessica and Kanon.

>> No.26222654

>>26222614
please no homo

>> No.26222678

>>26222536
>degenerate
>based
>EXTREMELY BASED
>I'm feeling it
>degenerate
>based

>> No.26222692
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>>26222500
N-not at all.
I kinda do. Nice way to rest while reading Ryukishi's magnum opus and waiting for the console arcs to be downloaded now.

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> Anthology ~ Alice in the Land of Three Mirrors ~"
What was this?

>> No.26222765

>>26222536
>no doujin where Ange gets raped by the mafiosos on the island while Kasumi watches, and them she's forced to shit all over Maria's crumpled diary while singing a humiliating song about how disgusting her naked arse is

>> No.26222862

>>26222654
No dick = no homo.

>> No.26222934

>>26222765
Can you tone it down a bit? You've made like a dozen humiliation posts in the last hour.

>> No.26223067

It's like the same Anon thinks that adding the phrase
>disgusting naked arse
is really funny or something.

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This page contains four crying Beatos. Pat the one you like the most.
>>26222934
I enjoy his posts, actually. Some of the observations he makes are intriguing - such as the idea that Asuka's ass is so lewd precisely because it's flat and therefore not sexually attractive - and he has a way with words.

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>>26223132
Fuck. This one.

>> No.26223430
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>> No.26223501

>>26223430
l-lewd

>> No.26223527

>>26223132
His five part long Rhyme from Twewy series of pastas is a masterpiece.

>> No.26223531

>>26223132
The fact that he speaks eloquently doesn't change that he spams his just as much if not more than Italianon. And it's usually just the same stuff over and over again, just rephrased. I don't mind when it's every once in a while, but when the same humiliation, human condition, mindblowing, and so on gets posted again and again it just bogs down the thread and makes it unpleasant.

>> No.26223663

>>26223531
I find even his copypastas (like 'Maria wa') pleasant to read.

>> No.26223717

>>26223531
I can understand finding it slightly annoying, but you cannot compare it with italianon, it's not even remotely on the same level. FUCK that guy.

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>>26223224
Here you are

>> No.26224147
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Everybody asking who the best milf character is but nobody asks how thick Virgilia must be under her dress

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>>26224137
cute!

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26224524

>>26223224

>> No.26224585
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26224585

>>26222692
Je sais qui tu es.

>> No.26224716

>>26223663
Well, I'm glad someone likes it, but personally I find his posts wearing. I just ignore them as soon as I recognize his prose, but then more and more gets posted with such frequency that it feels like I'm skipping most of the thread. If people like his stuff maybe he should focus on longer, more thought out posts with less frequency, instead of short, shallow spam.

>>26223717
It may not be as annoying or rude, but it's been going on for way longer with no signs of change. Plus it's more annoying for those who find those fetishes, which are admittedly niche, to be unappealing or even gross. I love lewd talk, but we can no longer have any genuine appreciation for ass in these threads because it gets derailed into talk of humiliation, scat, and the human condition.

>> No.26224761

>>26222724
It's TRianThology. It's the manga version of Country Girl, a chapter of this VN.

>> No.26224865
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26224865

>>26224585
Rika (forma de smug)

>> No.26224959
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26224959

>>26224147
Sadly there's not much to go off of. I think this is the closet we have in terms of official artwork. It's the same way with a lot of the women in huge skirts.

>> No.26225164

>>26213525
That's too sad to be true.

>> No.26225311

>>26225164
It is. It's dead and will always be dead. They literally did nothing more than that 10 minute video showing some lines lol. You really think they had the money or backing to do a 100+ hour VN? That adds more and more VAs they'd need per Episode? Yeah sure lol.

>> No.26225335

>>26224716
I think humiliation posting has just seen an uptick because actual conversation tends to get derailed as people still fucking reply to italianon. At least people can still genuinely discuss higanbana, higurashi, and rgd--but because of the increase in humiliation posting from umineko, it bleeds over into discussion for those titles as well.
I still find it fun though

>> No.26225447

>>26224959
sadly not a huge fan of gf artsyle

>> No.26226098
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26226098

>>26218361
italianon, we are all tired of reasoning on umineko, if I want to confirm your theory I need hours to search proofs and try to evaluate every little detail
reading umineko is fonny and everybody enjoyed it, but nobody would read it many many times; reading a mistery book is easier than reading a vn and its easier also to save what you think is a clue

>> No.26226157

>>26224959
Is Virgilia embarrassed because she is showing her naked pathetic witch butt?

>> No.26226234
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26226234

>>26224454
Such cuteness cannot be left unattended!
>>26224585
Oh no you don't
Encore une fois découvert. C'est plus possible

>> No.26226383

>>26226234
based french anon

>> No.26226386
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26226386

>>26225335
Maybe. I don't think he needs to be banned or anything unlike Italianon. I just hope he exercises some restraint. Even when we get new artwork like this, I found myself unable to fully enjoy the erotica because in the back of my mind I knew it would probably get used to fuel more humiliation/scat talk.

>>26225447
gf?

>> No.26226495

>>26226386
Ah, I mean Golden Fantasia

>> No.26226502
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26226502

>>26226098
>it's easier a book
>i dont have time
>nobody would read it many times

it's ok anon
just i love Umineko more than anyone else and this is why i found out the real solution

trust me there is nothing better of rereading umineko
yes is difficult, take time but this is the reason why it cant be forgotten by your mind

>> No.26226577

>>26226495
Ah, I see. Though isn't that from Alchemist?

>> No.26226625

>>26226386
>I found myself unable to fully enjoy the erotica because in the back of my mind I knew it would probably get used to fuel more humiliation/scat talk.
So you can't stop thinking about the human condition of Ange's pathetic arse. That means he's won. You're a humiliationfag too.

>> No.26226639

>>26226502
How do you have time with school or work?

>> No.26226724
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26226724

>>26226502
>i love Umineko more than anyone else
Oh fuck right off.

>> No.26226784

>>26226577
it's actually from 07th expansion itself

>> No.26226798

>>26226724
Woah nice fucking collection. Trying to get physicals of the Umineko manga now would be hundreds of dollars/

>> No.26226822

>>26226625
How am I supposed to stop thinking about it when it gets brought up in conversation every day for half a decade?

>> No.26226856

>>26226724
Coonsuming is not love
read without think is not reading
>>26226639
yes i am smart and i can study very fast

>> No.26226923

>>26226724
>Jessica
holy shit based
Jessica doesn't get enough love

>> No.26226963

>>26226724
i'm going to find out where you live from the exif data, break into your house and take that mion figurine

>> No.26227080

>>26226798
Thanks. Even staring back when things were more available, I've still spent upwards of $2000 on everything. The doujinshi are by far the most pricey due to stupidly high import rates. I've actually gotten more stuff since taking that picture. I'll probably update it once the limited edition Umineko port comes out and I add it.

>> No.26227111
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26227111

>>26226724
Imagine being proud of your consumerism
Fucking great, especially that Jessica figure

>> No.26227137 [SPOILER] 
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26227137

>>26226234
C'est sûr que quand on répond à un tweet qui parle des arc console de Higu et qu'on est aussi en train de relire RGD, et qu'on vient ensuite en parler ici... Ehhéhé.

>> No.26227349
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26227349

When will the horror end?

>> No.26227403

>>26224716
You just have shit taste, sir.

>> No.26227413
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26227413

>tfw Umineko wasn't even on the cover of the magazine when the last manga chapter was released
How on earth is this fair?

>> No.26227464
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26227464

daily reminder

>> No.26227542
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26227542

Hao~ Hao~ mi

>> No.26227754

>>26226963
I have an extra Mion (and Casual Rena and Satoko) anyways since they came in an 8-pack.

>>26226856
I have read the entire series at least a half dozen times over the last decade, and frequently go back and read some of my favorite parts whenever the mood strikes me. I've participated in discussion threads for years, talking about everything from theories to character interpretations to inane erotica. I built up a skill level in photoshop by making lewd edits of the characters I love. I've done what I can to make more content available for other fans via buying, scanning, translating, and so on. I set up games for people to participate in like Umineko themed chess. And I generally tried to be a positive part of the fandom.

>> No.26227758
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26227758

>>26227349
mentally healthy mean stupid for smart people
Also truth since Kanon Yasu erika and ikuko have just the body in common

>> No.26227760

>>26226502
how many times did you read it from start to end?

>> No.26227865

>>26227413
based editors knew the real truth of umineko

>> No.26227925

>>26227403
Quite the opposite, as shit is the problem.

>> No.26228014
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26228014

>>26227137
je laisse trop d'indices c'est abusé je ferais un mauvais culprit X mais bravo pour m'avoir trouvé encore hahaha

>> No.26228031

>>26226386
>>26221804
Ange more like Arse

>> No.26228107

>>26227413
Kakegurui celebrates their 600k manga sales, on the cover.
I guess, Umineko didn't did well, so it was not worth the front cover.

>> No.26228110

>>26227754
anon MANGA IS NOT UMINEKO stop say that you read it
>>26227760
4 times thanks the las treareading for my manifesto

1 reading
2 reading to discover a new solution
3rd reading after some time George theory created
4rd reading erikantrice manifesto proof reading

>> No.26228139

>>26227865
huh?

>> No.26228207

>>26228014
Je ne parle pas francaise

>> No.26228756

>>26228110
Did I say manga? Back when I first got into the series, the manga didn't even exist.

>> No.26228763

>>26227758
Trash

>> No.26228777
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26228777

Nipah~

>> No.26228992

>>26228756
then you forgot everything about the vn and just rereading the manga
>>26228763
not an argument goat

>> No.26229071
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26229071

>>26228014
Ouais, 'fin, j'ai réussi à te reconnaître grâce à l'autre post. Sinon, j'aurai jamais su...
Heureusement que les autres ne te reconnaissent pas. Le post que tu avais fait l'année dernière les a bien fait marré.
En tout cas, cimer pour ces gif pleines de tendresses!

>> No.26229079

not enough 410 ahhhhhhhhhhh
nyihihihi into a long good night

>> No.26229220
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26229220

>>26229079
Here, take this.

>> No.26229269
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26229269

>>26229079

>> No.26229908

>>26229269
Now this is a bush. Mion and Natsuhi can't compare.

>> No.26230089
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26230089

>>26228207
It's okay. You're not missing anything
>>26229071
MDR heureusement en effet, ce serait troublant autrement. Franchement je me demande ce qui me passait par la tête back then Et de rien, c'est vraiment drôle et simple de les faire. Personne n'échappe aux caresses crâniennes

>> No.26230185
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26230185

Is Umineko just a coping mechanism for Italianon? I can imagine the trauma of rape taking a toll on someone.

>> No.26230252

>>26225335
Humiliation anon #3 here (formerly humiliation anon #1 and #2). I usually make some of the most thoughtful posts and engage in deep discussion about the characters. I literally just did, multiple time. But I go full humiliation mode when faggots start replying to the italian cunt and half the thread becomes garbage. I'd rather post humiliation if an interesting discussion becomes impossible or gets ignored in favor of 30+ trash posts where supposed "fans" of these works keep replying to italianon despite KNOWING he's a troll that has no intention of even reading your replies.

>> No.26230565

>>26229079
Did anon ever find his missing 410?
>>26227464
Perfect image

>> No.26230967

>>26230089
Turn your kizuna on anon

>> No.26231095

>>26230565
Enough to sate my desires for a few minute, but not enough... I need Zun to toss her in the next touhou game so that people will pump out thousands of pictures of doujins of her.

>> No.26231196

>>26229269
Dude, just post the link. Destroying such a great piece of art by censoring the nipples (when you can literally see her hairy asshole) will only make it easier for the image to be lost forever if people mistakenly save the edit and repost it in the future.

>> No.26231271

>>26231196
iqdb is right there faggot

>> No.26231413

>>26231271
I have multiple copies already, I'm just saying post the link if you want to show ir off instead of a cucked edit because 4chan forces you to.

>> No.26231463
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26231463

>>26230967
Can't wait for the upcoming tower of babel scene with Kizuna/selcoms in ciconia, when it'll be deactivated worldwide. You'll never be able to escape from baguette speak.

>> No.26231550

>>26229269
Blushing and smiling at the same time while showing something as obscene as her anus hair is the ultimate fetish. She's incredibly ashamed of what she's doing but she enjoys the humiliation and puts on a lewd smile!

>> No.26231805

>>26231413
I'll post what I want, christ, is this preservation shit gonna keep going on like italianon? Can't even talk about physical media, plays, or post pictures without you bitching.

The image isn't going to be lost, if people want the original it's a couple clicks away. Mobile fags constantly saving compressed versions of images, posting them, and repeating the process ruins your preservation of even unedited photos. I'm not going to throw links every time I post a fucking image.

>> No.26231964

>>26227464
This is too accurate.

>> No.26232080

>>26231413
>multiple copies
do you have backup harddrives of backup harddrive? do you backup to the cloud too?
are you sure that's enough preservanon?

>> No.26232216

I don't want to live in a world where I can't play Umineko Gold on my ps5, bros.

>> No.26232265

>>26230565
>Did anon ever find his missing 410?
what missing 410?

>> No.26232281
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26232281

>>26231805
>phoneposters on Android who don't know about Kuroba or Clover
>phoneposters on Fagpple devices who don't know about iChan
Weak. They deserve to be bullied, all of them.

>> No.26232357

>>26231413
>>26224147


The artist is yohane

>> No.26232368

>>26227464
This is the truth of all 7th expansion threads

>> No.26232558
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26232558

>>26229269

>> No.26232620

>>26230565
>Did anon ever find his missing 410?
Never, because he listened to anti-preservanon.

>> No.26232968
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26232968

>>26232216
I am sorry, anon, but that world won't exist.

>> No.26232970

>>26232620
jokes on you, we are one and the same
I, so called anti-preservation anon, also run the mega and have over 10k umineko images in my Hydrus library

>> No.26233555
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26233555

>>26231463
Chloe speaking in québécois. Seeing her says tabernak, calisse...

>> No.26234146

>>26232968
Don't you dare say that!!!
Don't you dare say that with certainty!!!!

>> No.26234824

>>26233555
Chloe is literally the only WTC girl whose asshole I'd eat.

>> No.26235024

>>26234824
I think I'd eat hers the most roughly, but there's plenty others that I'd partake in.

>> No.26235175
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26235175

>>26232970
God speed fellow collector.

>> No.26235991
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26235991

>>26234146

>> No.26236677

>>26235991
They could change the name from Gold Edition! Or perhaps they seek to release it on ps4--with which the ps5 is backwards compatible with. They could even switch entirely to pc, or for that matter, from ps5 to switch! With certainty? Ha! The holes you left certainly aren't able to crush that anon's hopes!

>> No.26238852
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26238852

>>26235991
Uuuooooh!!!! I will never lose hope to such a weak red truth!!
Did you really think I wouldn't notice your intentional misspelling of "playstation"?!??

>> No.26239231

>>26233555
Do we even know if Quebec exists in the AOU? It's entirely possible they finally gave up and/or were forcefully integrated.

>> No.26239266
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>> No.26240036

I'm always amazed by Lee Meijiu. He might be the best character in all of Ryukishi's works

>> No.26240423
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26240423

>>26240036
That'd be Erika.

>> No.26241269

>>26235991
Umineko Gold is fucking aids. Is there really people unironically wanting that shit?
Though, I could picture those western trannies wanting it.

>> No.26241782

>>26241269
This. The fucking dub was horrible. Why would you bastardize the work with those shitty fucking VAs. At least then Japanese ones were good.

>> No.26242024

>>26241269
I don't think many actually cared for the english voices, it was more a chance to get more physical goods.

>> No.26242224
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26242224

>>26238852

>> No.26242227

>>26242024
Fucking consoomers

>> No.26242303
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26242303

>>26242227

>> No.26242473

>>26242303
ok I said nothing

>> No.26242606

>>26239231
>forcefully integrated
That's what's gonna happen to Chloe and Chloevil to produce the perfect waifu.

>> No.26242742

>>26242606
I would forcefully integrate myself into Chloe and Chloevil

>> No.26243421

>>26222536
>>26222765
You can always create an Archive of our Own account and write all the fucked up shit you want. The beautiful thing about writing is that you can write anything and edit any parts you want. A well-done fic is hotter than any doujin, as long as it's in-character.

>> No.26243437
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26243437

>>26242224
I'm gonna use my green truth on that!!
>The cancellation of "Umineko Gold Edition" doesn't guarantee the non-existence of a possible future Umineko port under a different name!!!! Uuuooowaaaa, take that, Lambdadudel!!!
I'd love to respond in game text as well, but sadly I can't use the red truth

>> No.26243547

>>26243421
Can easily create a fan vn too to use the music, sprites, and backgrounds from the vn. It wouldn't be too hard either to try and mimic r07's art by making nude sprite versions either.

>> No.26243606

>>26242606
>Chloe looks like Yukari
>Yukari was the Ange expy
>all three suffer from humiliation
Identify an expy by their hair color is so basic. Chloe has fuck all to do with Bern, she's the Ange of Ciconia. Chloevil represents Punished Yukari when she goes nuclear on the bullies and kicks their stupid arses.

>> No.26243809
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26243809

Go away, Umineko!
This is a Higurashi thread now!

>> No.26244146
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26244146

>>26243809
This. It's time for Higurashi

>> No.26244214

Who is that absolute cutie right before the 410 expy in the Trianthology vote list?

>> No.26244391

>>26242606
Chloevil is just a meme.

>> No.26244456

It's hard not to vote for a Higurashi or Umineko character when they are all presented in such a charming art style. If they were the soulless console versions I wouldn't even feel like looking at their faces.

>> No.26244706

When I read Higurashi and Umineko years ago I remember the resolution being 4:3 aspect ratio no matter what, but when I fullscreen them today they stretch to 16:9 and I hate how it looks and feels. Any way to get them not to do that?

>> No.26244777
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26244777

>>26243809
>PS2 sprites

>> No.26244785

>>26244706
that has to do with your monitor/gpu settings

>> No.26244884

>>26243437
Have fun.
https://hikukastel.net/generator/generator.html

>> No.26244931

Reminder that 07thExpansion lost the original source files for Erika's sprites and had to redraw them from scratch for the high resolution Steam version. There are very slight differences between the original and the Steam sprite, it's not the exact same pixel by pixel.

Japanese companies are terrible at preserving their own stuff.

>> No.26244949
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26244949

>>26244214
>thinks it's a female

>> No.26244971

>>26244931
Has someone compared the two? I'm interested to see it.

>> No.26244988

>>26244777
That CG is kinda cute, though. Still out of place in the actual VN, but it's nice as a piece of artwork.

>> No.26245024
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26245024

TRianThology had more vote than Higanbana (that was 11th).

>> No.26245034

>>26244971
It's barely noticeable, just slight differences in some lines. But yeah, they lost the assets.

>> No.26245038

>>26244971
iirc it's mostly just a slight different in the blush, which makes sense as that's related to opacity shading and not flat lines/colour like the rest that can be copied exactly with ease

>> No.26245071

>>26244949
Fuck no, don't tell me...

>> No.26245121

>>26245024
They'd just change the entire engine instead of simply making a translation patch. I hate Mangagamer.

>> No.26245165

>>26245024
As long as they exist I will continue to pirate

>> No.26245182

>>26244785
thanks, found it.

>> No.26245209

>>26244931
How did Ryukishi lost Erika sprites and not the rest...?

>> No.26245327

having sex with chloe

>> No.26245504
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26245504

Why do they give Battler blue eyes in the PS3 sprites? Colored eyes were associated with magic characters (who had fully colored eyes and sometimes no pupils to emphasize their otherworldliness). Others like Maria or Ange had a little bit of magic and had some really dark shade of blue or purple, mixed in with the black. But normal humans had black eyes in general. Hell, even Kinzo did, which made his young sprite, old man sprite and Battler look consistent with each other.

I think it's retarded that they gave Battler and many other humans colored eyes just because it's typical in modern anime. It ruins a really cool aesthetic detail.

>> No.26245547

are threads normally this fast?

>> No.26245619
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26245619

Batora, what are you doing to Beato?!

>> No.26245652

the absolute LACK of ciconia fanart
oh no no

>> No.26245655
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26245655

>>26245071
Don't worry anon, it's not male either, so you can fuck its non gendered 100 million year old tree butthole no homo

>> No.26245732

Can't Ange technically find out where the servant Manon lives and fuck her IRL? Her gf Mammon is a delusion.

>> No.26245760
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26245760

>>26245652
This one just got posted on Twitter.

>> No.26245791

>>26245760
whats the tag?

>> No.26245809

>>26245547
depends if people ignore italianon or not
if they are, then people post less because it sucks the fun out of the thread
if they don't, then people post more as they're actually able to enjoy replying
compound that with it being the weekend, and you got speed bby
then again, the past couple threads have gone pretty fast even considering that

>> No.26245903

>>26245791
dumb dumb, it's twitter. No tags, no archives. You've gotta follow the right artists and check every day or else miss out on fanart that'll then become lost forever.

>> No.26245933

>>26245903
there are hashtags

>> No.26245975

>>26245547
Never, besides if there are a new release.

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>>26243606

>> No.26246050

>>26245933
which are barely ever used.

>> No.26246059

>>26245791
https://twitter.com/mMgTHi3Xq6odNIw/status/1304938684903432192

>> No.26246135

>>26245024
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! HELL YEAH!!

>> No.26246144
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>we are never getting a soulless console version of the cutest elementary schooler
Great!

>> No.26246198

>>26246050
why do artists even use twitter? its bad
>>26246059
ty

>> No.26246277
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26246277

oh god

>> No.26246340
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>>26246135
Been voting for Ibito every other day on the poll too, everyone needs to know about best boy.

>> No.26246371

>>26246050
That's why I use hydrus. Always auto-download at a daily interval from the accounts I want. If they have a pixiv then that version trumps the twitter one because of the fucking compression. It's a pain though when it's an artist that likes to blog, have to go through and delete anything non-art every once in a while to keep things clean.

>>26246198
It's popular, so easy views, easy likes. Retweeting gives you more visibility. Endorphins flow. That doesn't excuse not using pixiv in tandem with twitter though, absolutely disgusting.

>> No.26246406

>>26246277
why do they spam pixiv tag

>> No.26246474

>>26246198
Instant gratification and absolutely no regard for preservation. Half of them end up nuking their accounts forever at the slightest hint of criticism, seeing their art posted in a booru, having their art retweeted by westerners that get more likes than the original post or simply for no reason at all.

>> No.26246522

>>26245975
is phase 2 out?

>> No.26246585

>>26246522
Latelets. It's been out 3 days ago anon!

>> No.26246669

>>26246474
>having their art retweeted by westerners that get more likes than the original post
to be fair id do this too. twitter does nothing against art stealing

>> No.26246993

>>26246669
Honestly, what can they do? Posting it first doesn't mean it's yours. If you post to pixiv first and then someone posts it to their twitter before you do, you're fucked. Or if someone uploads works from before you started using twitter. Anyone can edit a picture with their signature or @ too, there's literally no way to accurately fix the issue.

>> No.26247105
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26247105

>when the mafia pulls out your eyes as a warning

>> No.26247183

>>26246993
i think that it should work similar to people pretending to be others which is if people mass report the tweet/account. there is no option to report for stealing.

>> No.26247369

>>26246669
Anyone who actually wants to congratulate you and kiss your ass will bother looking at the original post and follow the artist. Even if they don't leave a like.

If someone doesn't even do that, they wouldn't be interested in who created the piece or give a shit about congratulating them, even if they discovered it through the original post. So who cares about retweets?

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>> No.26247722

>>26247369
its about reposting
i liked a art tweet earlier in the week thinking the original artist had posted it, but in reality it was stolen from a small art account and i did not know

>> No.26247733

>>26219290
>theorizing
This seldom happens in here. It's the equivalent of regurgitating your food after it's already been chewed and then swallowing it again ad infinitum. Which leads to mad theories that deny the heart of the story while ironically preaching that they do more than anyone else, such as our ESL 'friend' here.

>>26208955
Oh shit, I forgot to vote for my girls. Thanks for the reminder.

>> No.26248050
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>>26245504
The PS3 script is censored, so Ryu clearly doesn't give much of a fuck about it. He just let them do whatever to make the characters more generically appealing and create crappy Maria CGs to attract the Higurashi anime audience. The console versions of Higurashi are even worse because entire long ass scenes are cut from the last few arcs for censorship reasons. It's just a way to make money that tramples all over the original work, so why bother correcting their mistakes?

The PS3 patches are created by westerners (who are doing a disservice to the fandom). Japs do not use them, they just play the censored PS3 versions or the original soulful versions.

>> No.26249125
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>>26245504
Why did they decide to give Bern and Lambda's eyes actual pupils? Or Zepar/Furfur for that matter? Or Dlanor?

It just makes them look generic and less magical. The originals are so fucking good.

>> No.26249773

How the fuck do you separate paragraphs in the screenshot generator?

>> No.26250041

>>26246340
Can't wait to know who this boy is then if he's on your "Vote everyday" thing.

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>>26245504
>>26248050
>>26249125
At times I may hate what 4chan has become but it's posts like yours that gives me hope. Hope that this place still has decent people

>> No.26250360

>>26249773
Add in "<br>" between what you want to space. Add multiple for a larger space.

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>> No.26251341

>>26251279
in line for an ass spanking
bend over 410!!!

>> No.26251400

why post magic characters? magic does not exist

>> No.26251415

>>26251279
I love how the original sprites are intentionally made to fit the entire screen, to the point they had to cut the top part of the taller ones.

The PS3 sprites look tiny and awkward in comparison.

>> No.26251494

>>26251279
She's crying because everyone saw her shameful ass hair a while ago.

>> No.26251626
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26251626

>>26251279
Why do they have belly buttons if they are made in a factory?

... Speaking of that, do the AOU and ACR characters even have belly buttons? They are made in incubators and aren't actually connected to any mother, right?

>> No.26251961

>>26251415
It's honestly funny seeing replies like this all the time, marveling at everything like an intentional stroke of genius so that you can shit on PS3 sprites even more. You can do the exact same by flipping it.

I love how the PS3 sprites are intentionally given room to breathe, to the point where nothing has to be cropped on their heads.
The r07 sprites look big and claustrophic in comparison.

I prefer the r07 sprites, but its just funny to me the things people try to push as to why they're better. It's like a student bullshitting an essay in class.

>> No.26252148

>>26251961
>like a student bullshitting an essay in class

A good way to describe like 40% of any reasonable discussion on the internet

>> No.26252185

>>26251961
>marveling at everything like an intentional stroke of genius
Does it matter if it's intentional or not? It could have been an accident or a subconscious sense of "yeah, it looks great this way" without fully understanding what makes it work.

The important thing is that it works and the new one doesn't. Or at least not as well.

>> No.26252533

>>26251961
>I love how the PS3 sprites are intentionally given room to breathe, to the point where nothing has to be cropped on their heads.
>The r07 sprites look big and claustrophic in comparison.
These supposed "advantages" of the PS3 sprites always lose weight when you realize they don't exist in a vaccuum. There are many, many things wrong with the PS3 version. Even if you absolutely hated the claustrophobic sprites, it'd still be better to use them because the PS3 ones have gigantic problems in many areas.

>> No.26253217

>>26251961
We all know that the ps3 sprites are not really that bad or anything. It's just that R07 sprites are way better. And the fact that they could've done much more better with the ports (not just about the sprites) is even more displeasing.

>but its just funny to me the things people try to push as to why they're better
Why? What's funny with people sharing their opinions as to why R07 sprites are better? Plus they're not really wrong about their points.

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>>26252185
I was only saying that as hyperbole. I was getting at how people like to pick any random pointless aspect of something they like and praise it as a quality of it's superiority. Ah, yes, the PS3 sprites lack that white border the r07 ones have. They had no idea what they were doing. That very white border helps give the sprites a fantastical mood by separating them from their backgrounds, giving them an otherworldly presence. Alchemist really fucked up there.

>>26252533
I didn't list those as actual advantages, I was just showing that as an example of how you can flip the same praise for r07 to turn it into praise for ps3.

>>26253217
I don't find it funny that people share their opinions on why they like the sprites more, what's funny to me is what is sometimes elevated as a plus. I used the essay comparison for a reason.

>> No.26253861

>>26248050
Not just the censoring, but also having new players can choose in going Tatarigoroshi/Watanagashi before Onikakushi is just retarded.
Plus the some of the club activities which are suppose to be on their own arcs are now all condensed in first part of the game. Like how the toy store club activities plays before you even enter the Watanagashi arc. Irie's debut at the Angel Mort too is also very unnecessary.

>> No.26253974

>>26253861
Wait, you can skip to chapters 2/3 right away without even having to unlock them? That's... odd.

>> No.26254158

>>26253665
>They had no idea what they were doing. That very white border helps give the sprites a fantastical mood by separating them from their backgrounds, giving them an otherworldly presence. Alchemist really fucked up there.

That's just like one anon saying that, and I actually get the charm in what he's pointing to. Doujin games are just adorable anon.
Haven't really seen anyone here that is unironically retarded shitting on Alchemist like some of the examples you showed. Most are just shitposting and you making a fuss this much about those posts are falling for it.

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>>26221103
Wait until she gets the autism.

>> No.26254320

>>26253974
Nope. It doesn't even have the chapters description like in the original. Like how R07 is challenging us about the mystery. All those good stuff.
In that regard, I'm glad that the Umineko port is more fateful to the original than Higurashi's.

>> No.26254361

>>26254320
Does the steam release suffer from this too? I'm in Ep 2 now and I hope I didnt use the wrong thing

>> No.26254452

>>26254320
>fateful
I meant faithful.
>>26254361
Nah. The steam release is fine.

>> No.26254477

>>26254158
>making a fuss this much
If it appears like I'm having a fuss, that wasn't my intention as I'm certainly not having one. I just wanted to make that one post to say I thought that some of the reasons people give are funny to me in their obscurity. My second post was just clarification.

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Am I the only one here who played Higurashi first time in VNDS interpreter app?
I miss those good old times..
I also had my first Umineko read in there, which made me play the first 1-4 episodes without sprites and backgrounds, just text. lol

>> No.26254893

>>26254831
What country do you live in?

>> No.26254950

>>26254831
that sounds like not a fun time, but surely a unique experience

>> No.26255037

>>26254950
I was just in my middle school back then. I was reading Umineko like a light novel or some shit, plus the bgms.

>> No.26257249

>>26254831
Such a shame that some transitions, animations and rain aren't working properly on VNDS. Could have been peak VN reading experience in your bed. You could even choose to have the text displayed over the characters and backgrounds just like it is on PC, instead of the DS format.

https://mega.nz/#F!6UNXwAjI!Psvww_SDu6SVsMcAxf5UeQ

There's Umineko in this link if I'm not mistaken, whoever posted it last year is based

>> No.26257706

>>26257249
>Could have been peak VN reading experience in your bed
Bro.. I remember fapping to Satoko before bed while reading in this port.

>> No.26259442

>>26250288
While I agree in principle, I've noticed that those kind of posts tend to hate any and all changes made by the remakes, so it makes me question whether they actually dislike how it looks or are just reaching for reasons to make the new versions seem bad.
Criticism doesn't sound genuine if you only have negative things to say.

>> No.26259793

>>26259442
Have you really played the remakes? Not the patch, but the actual Japanese DS/PS3/PS4 ports? Because if you dont, I dont think you deserved to have any say to this matter. Nevertheless, call those posts disingenuous.

>> No.26260123

>>26253217
>And the fact that they could've done much more better with the ports (not just about the sprites) is even more displeasing.
Okay, I take issue with this. The ports went above and beyond in their efforts. The sprites were not only redrawn but also multiplied several times over by the addition of new poses for every character, instead of the bobblehead sprites the original had. The backgrounds were also entirely redone, and whether or not you like the aesthetic of the originals filtered photographs you can't deny the amount of time and effort put into redrawing each one as a fully rendered image. Similarly with the CGs, no matter how you argue about them being disruptive or that one or two are cringey (which somehow invalidates all of them I guess), they're still fundamentally well drawn images that all had to be planned out to fit the narrative and given tons of variations for things like expression changes. The voice acting the added was all top notch, and given the size of the game must've been a monumental task to record. Then there's the animation. The fact that they tried to include animations at all in a port of a low budget indie game already goes to show how ambitious they were being with it. And while you can complain about the lip-flapping all day long, it doesn't change the fact that they took the time to animate mouth movements for every single god damn sprite, or the fact that there are a bunch of other animations like the golden butterflies or the red vs blue clashes that still look great. And even if you ignore all the assets they put into the game, there's still stuff like improvements to the user interface, increased resolution, and customization options to take into account. With all that in mind, what the hell else could you possibly have wanted? Because I get the distinct impression you types wouldn't be satisfied unless they'd just just taken the exact same game and moved it to consoles with no changes made whatsoever, because that shows so much more love and passion for the series right?

>> No.26260233

>>26259793
I think I have plenty to say in the matter, as one who not only played the ports but is also intimately familiar with all the updates made to the game due to my attempts at collecting official assets. See >>26260123

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>>26259442
If I dislike the general look and feel of the remakes, and genuinely think it hampers the experience, it's only natural that I'll attempt to explain why in excruciating detail. And that means analyzing every little change, no matter how minor, because all of them come together to create that look I dislike. You appear to think I'm just reaching for things to complain about because I talk about seemingly inconsequential changes. But how else am I supposed to analyze the change as a whole if I don't bring up every little thing and explain why it's bad? I'm dissecting every part to explain how it all causes a major change in the feel of the VN.

I don't think you are being intellectually dishonest, but you are failing to understand how analysis works. Pointing out every little thing that is wrong about the overall change is essential to make your point clear and logical, but you think I'm just nitpicking about irrelevant things as if they weren't part of a whole. Would you rather I just call it bad without going into details? That would make me sound like an irrational hater.

I could also explain how voices harm the atmosphere of Higurashi and render many sound effects pointless, completely changing the atmosphere of some scenes. But if I pointed out every problem, you'd consider each one a minor thing without stopping to consider how they all come together to fuck up the original experience.

>> No.26260463

>>26260123
I recognize the enormous effort they made, but effort is pointless if you direct it the wrong way for the most part. Just like how SJWs spend a lot of energy and time hurting innocent people and making the world a shittier place, all with the best of intentions.

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Oh, we're back at this again. Hm, I think I prefer people talking to the wall that is italianon more than og vs ps3 discussion.

>> No.26260587

>>26260463
And I think it's bullshit that you can look at everything they did and claim that every last innovation was a negative. I'm so tired of these remake hating circlejerks among original-only purists who blindly hate any efforts made to add to or improve on the series and will use any excuse to claim the ports were soulless cashgrabs just to justify their nostalgic preference for a low budget decade old indie game.

You think Ryukishi would disapprove of their renditions of his characters? Have you even read his inserts in the manga or any of his interviews? The dude absolutely loves seeing talented artists working on the story he put so much love and care into making.

>> No.26260615

>Sane
>When there was no higurashi
>Nina and Ninoki

>> No.26260976

>>26260387
Because you're not criticizing. A critique is an analysis of what works and what doesn't in an attempt to see how something could be improved. But that's not what this is. It'd be one thing to say you dislike some or even most of the changes, but you don't have a single positive thing to say about the remakes. I find it very hard to believe that among all those little details in the changes made, not a single one added to the experience. A hundred attempts and not one made any steps in the right direction? Improvement is off the table since you start with the assumption that the original was perfect in every way, and that every decision Ryukishi made in production was done out of some artistic sense rather than simple budgeting restraints. So forgive me for questioning your bias when some of your claims come across as arbitrary complaints as pointed out here >>26251961

>> No.26261065
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>>26260587
Not every last change was negative, but it's still the inferior version and harms the experience. I don't care if an already perfectly good scene was made 10% better thanks to a nice CG or if another scene was slightly better with the voices. They were already good. Those small improvement don't exist in a vacuum, they are part of a package that actively hurts the overall feel of the VN and straight up ruins some scenes and your impression of certain characters. I acknowledge that some changes are good, but they are in no way essential and the price you pay for those unnecessary improvements is too high. They aren't worth ruining full scenes and slightly hampering the entire experience.

It's still a great experience either way, but the PS3 version is inferior and shouldn't be recommended to newbies pretending it's objectively superior. And no, looking at all the versions beforehand and choosing one isn't valid. A simple look at spritesheets isn't enough to give you an idea of how charming and expressive the originals can be in context.

I love the RGD art, so it's not like I'm a fanboy of Ryu's art style. The difference is that these work perfectly, were especially chosen for the VN as it was being developed and written (not in some remake after the fact) and manage to express everything they need. The Higurashi/Umineko remakes aren't horrible, but they are clearly made with no understanding of many little things that were important for the experience, including Ryuukishi's use of the same ambiguous facial expression for completely different emotions. Especially in Higurashi, where it really shows every time a non-subtle, redesigned Alchemist expression looks out of place in a scene where it originally looked fine. For example (and this is one out of MANY), Rena's blushing expression was originally ambiguous enough that it was used for when she was feverish or going insane too. Alchemist and Mangagamer both fail to understand this and redesign it as an unambiguous anime blush, which clashes really hard and takes a first-time reader out of the experience when it's used for non-comedic scenes to portray different emotions.

>> No.26261098

>>26220369
I'm not really surprised by it, though I'd definitely be curious as to his reasoning for it. Do you have a link to the interview?

I'm more curious as to which game of his Ryuukishi prefers the most (whether or not he likes Higurashi or Umineko or RGD over the others). He has said before that he considers Higurashi his magnum opus but I'm wondering if he just said that out of it's popularity rather than because of how much he liked it.

>> No.26261102

>>26260123
>>26260587
>>26260976
Sorry for getting heated, but this is something that's been bugging me for a while and I just wanted to get my thoughts out on the table.

>> No.26261173

>>26260976
>find it very hard to believe that among all those little details in the changes made, not a single one added to the experience. A hundred attempts and not one made any steps in the right direction?
As I said here >>26261065 not every change was negative, far from it. Why do you think I'm not aware of that? I just think they aren't worth all the other godawful changes, so I don't feel the need to bring them up.

I'm not trying to bash or praise Alchemist, so leaving out the good changes is irrelevant. My intention is not to fairly judge their work. My intention is to explain why the overall product is a bit of a mess and how those bad changes make it inferior to the original, regardless of any small improvements to already good scenes.

>> No.26261313

>>26261098
I don't think he'd be able to pick a favourite in regards to an entire series. Would be like picking a favourite child.

>> No.26261340

>>26261065
>It's still a great experience either way, but the PS3 version is inferior and shouldn't be recommended to newbies pretending it's objectively superior.
From what I've seen both versions get recommended in pretty equal measure. And personally when I recommend the series to someone I tend to give an overview of the options and let the person choose for themselves whichever on suits their taste, conveying the strengths and weaknesses as best I can without spoiling any context. Hell I even reference some of your arguments as claims against the PS3 version in an effort to give them an impartial choice.

Also, I'd like to put it out there that my analysis is aimed solely at the Umineko remake. I have never once defended the Higurashi remakes. I'm not nearly as familiar with them as I am with Umineko and from what I do know they seem so vastly inferior that it feels like they were made by totally different people.

>> No.26261586

>>26221103
>Anime
There's your problem.

>> No.26261649
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I've noticed that Ryuukishi's so-called repetition and occasional bad pacing isn't nearly as bad in the original versions of the novels. Everything is so charming and the text is displayed quickly all over the screen in neat and purposefully chosen paragraphs. I barely notice when those writing flaws pop up.

In the remakes however... Jesus. The cheap, generic look of everything, the less than charming facial expressions, the voices grinding the pacing to a halt even in tense/quick scenes, the sound effects having no impact (RIP ahaha.wav) and especially the prose being ruined because all the text is trapped in a tiny textbox at the bottom, with hard cuts in the middle of lines and a complete absence of the original wall-of-text paragraphs (the way text is divided in a page is part of the heart of any book and especially VN, it influences the way you read and interpret the text). You can't just take away the author's prose and jumble it all together in a tiny box.

Again, RGD has no problem with this because it was written with the text box in mind. In the case of Higurashi and Umineko, you are taking the text and forcing it into a format it wasn't written for.

All this stuff makes the text really tiring to read, which makes some repetitive or badly paced parts stand out A LOT more. In my case, it goes from barely noticeable to pretty annoying. It does a disservice to Ryu's writing and artificially highlights the flaws. No wonder discord trannies have a hateboner for the man's prose, they are all advocates of the bastardized patched versions.

>> No.26261680

>>26261586
Think he's referring to the chapters as episodes like with Umineko, meaning he's on tatarigoroshi

>> No.26261721

>>26261649
Ciconia exists.

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>>26261680
Still don't understand the Rena hate.

>> No.26261762
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>>26261065
I think the issue is that you're already satisfied with the original. Whether it's perfect or not, you enjoy it the way it is, so you see improvements as unnecessary. But what's important to take into account is that not everyone shares the same preferences. What may seem like a minor improvement to you could be a game changer for someone else, and something you find charming could be a deal breaker for others. Acting like those whose aesthetics differ from your own are missing out on the proper experience is pretty presumptuous.

I could do the exact same thing as what you're doing and instead argue that each and every change made by the PS3 version actually improved on the experience by using whatever reasoning sounds good. But I don't because it's entirely subjective and I happen to enjoy both versions anyway.

>> No.26261798

>>26261340
>I'm not nearly as familiar with them as I am with Umineko and from what I do know they seem so vastly inferior that it feels like they were made by totally different people.
Pretty sure most people who legit hates the remakes here are all pointing to Higurashi. Go check it out yourself. It's quite a mess.

>> No.26261971

>>26261798
Almost everyone who plays Higurashi in anything other than its original form ends up finding it worse than Umineko even if they really like it. And I can totally understand it, the remakes are a fucking mess.

Looking at the original versions of both, I'd say they are about equal, each excels at different things.

>> No.26262002

>>26261649
Eh, I love R07 too, but I think this is going a bit too far. I think his writing style is easily the hardest thing to defend about his works. I don't really expect things to be on the level of Shakespeare, but you can tell he has a pretty limited way of describing things and tends to repeat specific phrases and words to death.

>> No.26262060

>Looking at the original versions of both, I'd say they are about equal, each excels at different things.
>>26248050
>>26253861
I would gladly read the original with the japanese voice acting in it. But that's probably it.

>> No.26262079

>>26261649
Discord trannies are sad creatures with a particular hateboner for RGD. Nearly every discord tranny that plays it spends the entire time trying really fucking hard to nitpick every single line of text. I don't get why they go into it with such a predisposition for hating and mocking every single damn line. Then again, these people are obnoxious, emotionally stunted assholes no matter what they talk about or where they go.

>> No.26262110
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>>26261798
The quality of Higurashi's remake should not be used to attack Umineko's. They're two entirely different beasts.

>> No.26262130

>>26262002
I'm just saying how I feel about it. I find it a non-issue in the originals and a pretty big flaw in the remakes. I'm not exaggerating, that's what each one makes me feel about his writing.

>> No.26262170

>>26261649
This sounds more like deflecting blame for complaints by attributing it to something else you don't like.

>> No.26262223

>>26262170
Dude, I think I made my point clear. I explained how all that extra shit accentuates the flaws to such a degree that even I find them annoying, when I had no problem with them in the original. They remove the good parts of his writing and make the bad parts stand out more, without anything to balance it out.

>> No.26262258

>>26262223
not him, but how does eliminating the text you've read by pressing enter do any of that?

>> No.26262271

It's annoying to discuss about something you love with someone who only experience some distilled version of it. Especially animefags.

>> No.26262318

>>26262271
I can't even imagine what it'd be like to be an Umineko fan who has only watched the anime. My heart aches just thinking about it.

>> No.26262336
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old sprites are better, eva, kyrie, beatrice and kinzo are handsomer in the old sprites even if they seem less real

>> No.26262378

>>26262318
It's pretty simple really. Most of the people who watched it have likely forgotten about it by now since it doesn't leave a lasting impression. And with the adaptions quality becoming more and more infamous it's much less likely for new viewers nowadays to choose it.

>> No.26262405

>>26262271
this all Shkanontrice manga fags cant discuss since manga cut all logic and mystery parts

>> No.26262448
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Alchemist is trash. And R07 is doing it again with Entagram.
When will he learn to find a properly good team for his remake? Now, he even accepted a Higurashi gacha game and probably picked the worst developers to make it.
Soon, we will see if the Higurashi anime team really did a good job in the remake or not..
After that, Umineko will probably have an anime but with the worst team possible to remake it. Again.. When will he learn??
The only decent partnerships with other teams he probably made are the mangas and his other vn works.

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>>26262336
>Kinzo is handsomer in the old sprites.
Yeah, that cloud hair sure looks dandy as hell.

>> No.26262521

>>26262448
What exactly would a "good" team entail?

>> No.26262551

>>26262405
Don't you start. We're already having a cancerous discussion, we don't need you adding more fuel to the fire.

>> No.26262562

>>26262521
r07 himself and nobody else
I'm honestly sickened that these fags approve of the music in these visual novels when r07 himself didn't compose them

>> No.26262579

>>26262551
normie
Discuss about Umineko is fantastic

>> No.26262625
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>>26262258
Removing the structure of each page by confining all the paragraphs to a little text box makes the whole thing feel cheap and purposeless, which makes the prose as a whole very bland and makes the repetitive parts even more pointless.

I cannot stress it enough. You can't just take a novel, especially a VN (book pages can end in the middle of sentences, which isn't the case here) and strip away all the paragraphs and the way they are displayed on the screen originally. It's part of the author's writing style. Why he chooses to fill an entire page to the brim, why he advances to the next page after a single line, why some so-called repetitions actually have a purpose and look beautiful displayed as different paragraphs on the same page. You cannot remove that style and personality, which is part of an author's particular prose, without hurting the experience. Similar-sounding lines that made artistic sense as consecutive paragraphs on a wall of text make you wonder "why is he repeating this for no reason" if that wall is confined to a small box and delivered in separate fragments. And parts that were genuinely repetitive seem even MORE repetitive when you've stripped away part of the author's style (how he uses paragraphs and page turns), making his entire prose seem like it has no style or purpose. This makes those genuinely flawed repetitions come off as even worse flaws because the entire thing so far has lacked any personality in the way it's displayed on-screen. It comes off as useless drivel on top of useless drivel, instead of an occasional flaw.

And just to make it clear, I'm not referring to the choice of words or the content of the text. I'm just saying that the way an author displays it is important, influences how you perceive it and is part of his personal style.

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>>26262579
kids shouldn't butt in when the adults are discussing!!

>> No.26262672
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>>26262625
please, do go on kyahahaha

>> No.26262698

>>26262336
The Higurashi problem again. That shadow on the face on the left is so fucking over the top and out of place. The original face was used for both serious trolling and lighthearted jokes, and it worked fine. Replacing it with that over the top expression makes it come off as awkward and over-exaggerated when she's simply saying something slightly mean to Battler in EP8.

>> No.26262772

>>26262698
This is pretty conclusive.

>> No.26262840

>>26262448
>meanwhile, Type-Moon is raking in cashes as we speak
He should take notes on how they succeeded this much.

>> No.26262902
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>>26262660
when adults are dumbs the new generation must take their place

>> No.26262909

>that one EP1 CG with Maria smiling like she's a high quality version of someone's DeviantArt fanart
Those are the only ones I hate. The one in EP1 ruins the mood of the scene and is completely inappropriate. It's a weird attempt to mimic the DEEN Higurashifaces, when the original scene was only a bit unsettling because Maria was smiling smugly despite the horrible circumstances. What the fuck were they thinking with that scary ass CG? It doesn't fit at all and gives you the wrong impression of Maria. It's like they were looking at the horrible DEEN anime when they decided to add that in. It makes a first time reader view Maria in a way that the original NEVER did or intended, and also makes a slightly disturbing scene into full on horror, disrupting the mood.

The other one is in EP4 when Maria goes nuclear on Rosa. It's just too exaggerated and cringy. Maria overall is pretty infuriating in the PS3 version because they got all her facial expressions wrong, exaggerated them too much, made her way too cute and removed that autistic expressionless aura that she had in the original. The text describes Maria as a child that doesn't show her emotions on her face because she's a total sperg, but the PS3 art completely ignores that and takes too many liberties with her regular sprites.

Sure, I love her cute alternate outfit and all, but those other issues are still garbage and give you the wrong impression of her character.

>> No.26262931

>>26262562
This. The VNs should only be played while muted and with your eyes closed so that you can enjoy Ryukishi's prose who it was originally conceived in his head without any unnecessary distractions that the medium brings.

>> No.26262960

>>26262660
>not wanting Maria's butt on your face

>> No.26262994

>>26262902
Children of the Corn?

>> No.26262996

>>26262336
That is some serious cherry picking. Even a lot of PS3 lovers find those particular faces over the top.

>> No.26262997

>that one CG of Okonogi restraining Tomitake at one of the climaxes of Minagoroshi
So fucking shit, seriously. Why is Takano drawn like that? It ruins a perfectly good scene making it look stupid and ugly.

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>>26262997
That was hella ugly. LMAO

>> No.26263051

>>26262997
The console versions are the equivalent of someone gaining a second rick but losing his arms and legs in the process.

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>>26262909
That Maria face CG is more than offset by the this one later on in that same episode. one scene loses some impact while another gains some. It's a give and take.

>> No.26263092

>>26263041
Why is Okonogi making that weird face? And wasn't Takano supposed to be so sexy and cute that Tomitake almost became an accomplice?

>> No.26263107

>>26263058
>It's a give and take.
Give or take doesn't make it better. We wanted some improvements, we got this lukewarm of a remake. That's all there is to it.
The voices are top-notch though

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>>26226724
Mion's...

>> No.26263197

>>26263107
Again, Umineko's remake is anything but lukewarm. You can argue about the success or failure of the execution all you want, but the level of input was undeniable.

>> No.26263204

>>26263107
>No new posts
Ryukishi is always doing a good job hiring his seiyuus.
Though I kinda hope he also hires some seiyuus that are not so popular and overused. Like how he hired Sawada Maria as the vocal singer in Ciconia.
Let the new generation have a shot at it too I say!

>> No.26263222 [SPOILER] 
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>>26263190
Satoko's...
inb4 human condition shitpost

>> No.26263225

>>26263204
>I meant to highlight 'The voices are top-notch though' =_=

>> No.26263277
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>>26245504
>>26249125
The absolute worst part of PS3 Lambda, aside from the pupils and her cringeworthy troll face, is that they change her hair color making it literally yellow. It was originally white-ish blonde, which made her connection with Takano and Jestress obvious.

I've noticed that PS3fags tend to not realize that Jestress is supposed to look like Lambda. Jestress was designed to make you think "holy shit, that's Lambda with a mask on". It says a lot about Lambda's awful PS3 redesign that so many people fail to make the connection, particularly because of the change in hair color (which was only done to be consistent with the failed anime, which in turn made that change as a commercial strategy to have the popular Rika/Satoko again, probably same reason they made Bern flat).

Takano and Shion also get terrible outfits in the console versions. Especially Takano, she loses the pants in favor of a lame skirt and also loses her iconic badge that was supposed to hint at the military reveal. Not to mention her iconic eyes and good looks are completely unimpressive in her console sprite. Even the anime didn't fuck up their designs like that. It kept K1's vest, Shion's outfit and Takano's spats.

>> No.26263288

>>26263222
cute slit

>> No.26263294

>>26263204
Any in particular you have in mind? Personally I'd love to see someone like Koga Aoi cast if Ciconia got an anime. She'd be great for someone like Lingji

>> No.26263304

>>26263058
I'd rather have a consistent experience than an altered one where some parts are slightly improved while others are completely destroyed.

>> No.26263328

>>26263058
That one is lewd because Maria's loli arse is hiding behind a thin piece of cloth.

>> No.26263339

>>26204151
I was thinking about how Kanon doesn't fit in the victim category if he isn't the 9th (but the red truth declared that) but the 10th victim. One possible theory for Kanon's placement is that 'victim' has a different interpretation: if someone dies by methods other than homocide and suicide they won't become 'victims'. Maybe someone died in an accident .
The word victim bothers me. It would mean the person is dead but EP6 wouldn't makes sense because Battler was an aknowledged victim. (or he was murdered later)

>> No.26263342

>>26263190
I love how Daybreak used the original sprites as models.

>> No.26263392

>>26263328
Same. Rather than getting scared, I suddenly got the urge to attack Maria while she's facing the wall, bend over.. Just imagine..

>> No.26263405

>>26263304
>some parts are slightly improved while others are completely destroyed.
And there's that heavy bias creeping in again. What you consider a catastrophic failure likely goes unnoticed by plenty of people playing both versions. And what you hand wave as a negligible upgrade could completely change the scene for others.

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>>26262909
She still looks plenty autistic in the PS3 art.

>>26263304
>Who cares if they improved the Episode's climax. The handling of this minor scene earlier totally invalidates that.

>> No.26263524

>>26263405
Of course it goes unnoticed, they have no idea they are getting a wrong impression of Maria and the intended tone of the scene. Just try to defend that fucked up face and all this shit >>26262909

Maria isn't supposed to be a creepy ass monster in that scene. And she's not meant to be so damn expressive in her regular sprites. She was consciously written and drawn to look like an autistic loli in all of her facial expressions. Of course a PS3fag won't notice anything is wrong, but they are getting the wrong experience and a wrong portrayal of one of the most interesting characters.

And remember that they made these changes to fit in with the anime and other associated media, which fucked up Lambda and Bern too to the point people fail to recognize Jestress. Here >>26263277

Defend this shit.

>> No.26263591

>>26263277
It is unfortunate that the half-hearted piece of shit DEEN made as a way to milk money out of Higurashi anime fans and generic anime fans ended up affecting the PS3 version. No way in hell those cynical changes made with the purpose of maximizing profit (scary Maria, yellow Lambda, flat Bern, bishie George, out of place fanservice tits on the aunts) would have happened without the anime's influence. It solidified redesigns made with no love, only greed.

>> No.26263654

>>26262625
>no replies
At least acknowledge that I have a point.

>> No.26263673

>>26263524
reread my post before flying off the handle. I specifically said people wouldn't notice even when playing "both" versions.

>> No.26263691

>>26263392
>Doing her from behind as she sings her favorite song, pretending wholeheartedly that she doesn't feel anything while she holds her cute moans every time you thrust in deep inside her
hot

>> No.26263710

>>26263339
really good argument
for the word victim i use everyone who died but is not the culprit

normal people cant kill or kill themself
so if a culprit kill himself is not a victim but a part of his plan

but idk if there is a part of umineko who explain the real meaning of it so i cant confirm nothing

look by arguments e always discover something of new

>Maybe someone died in an accident
well an accident in a mystery is not very well
so for you who died in an accident?

>> No.26263765

>>26263673
And that's wrong. Someone who played the original first would notice how they fucked up Maria's portrayal. Someone who played the PS3 one first wouldn't notice any differences, but only because they already know what Maria is supposed to be like. They still had their initial experience tainted by that crap, they just forgot after getting used to her character afterwards, which is why they see nothing different between the two versions.

Same reason people who watch the Higurashi anime after reading the VN find it decent. Your mind is filling in the blanks and your love for the characters. An anime-only fan wouldn't be nearly as attached to it or give a fuck about it beyond surface level. It's a shallow adaptation that only becomes good if you are already familiar with the VN.

>> No.26263880
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>>26263277
Lambda's changes didn't really bother me at all. The pupils thing may hint at her otherworldly nature, but she doesn't really need that when she's wearing the most kitsch witch dress in the series. And while having no pupils in the PS3 style doesn't look bad per se, it feels a bit out of place and somewhat clashes with Bern's dead eyes. the platinum blonde hair I can see being an issue. Though to be fair her design is meant to parallel not just Takano but Satoko as well, as evidenced by her line in Episode 8 about the cake fractions riddle. And of the two, Satoko's design is much more well known especially when compared to young Takano, and one could even argue that it circumvents some potential spoilers for any players who haven't yet read Higurashi (shit on them all you like. They still exist and deserve to enjoy the series how they choose) by not making it obvious who the main antagonist she's referencing is.

As for Jestress, I honestly think you're stretching way too hard. Even looking at the original art she looks way more like a 2nd Takano expy than a Lambda one. The only thing that could be considered a connection is the pink dress, which again is also part of Takano's design.

>> No.26263888

>>26261649
>>26262079
Discord trannies are filled with negativity and most suffer from personality disorders that turn them into ego-maniacs. That's why they are always acting like they are smarter than everyone else even though they only spout regurgitated bullshit.

>> No.26263895

>>26263765
That's a lot of words to write
>old good new bad

>> No.26263914

>>26263880
It's not just the hair. Her entire face is different. Compare the two and you'll notice. She gives off completely different vibes.

>> No.26263948

>>26263895
>old good new bad
And that's how anons labels you as a complete retard

>> No.26263950

>>26263765
I read the originals first before the PS3 version even existed, and I didn't notice the issues you're bringing up when I reread it later on with the updates.

>> No.26263953

>>26263880
This is exactly why people argue for the original art. Anyone who played the entirety of Umineko with it would have instantly been able to tell Jestress was modeled after her. Not so with the unlucky who grew used to the shitty, unrecognizable PS3-loli sprite.

>> No.26263966

>>26263880
Lamba just doesn't look like herself without her original hair color. It's a classic and it looked really cool.

>> No.26263985

>>26263953
Actually, I recognized Jestress as Lambda immediately despite being used to the cute and pop sprites.

>> No.26264003

>>26263985
Because you saw the hat, right?

>> No.26264013

>>26263222
>>26263190
Is he really wrong? I think remembering Mion has a sweaty buttcrack takes away something from her character.

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>>26263966
You would still say the same thing even if I tried to fix it for you.

>> No.26264044

>>26263950
I'm talking about first time readers. They all go "fucking hell, that scared the shit out of me", which ruins their perception of Maria for the whole chapter and changes the reader's mood and the intended tone of an originally chill scene.

>> No.26264075

>>26264013
Making a more human does the opposite of taking away from her.

>> No.26264104

The humanity of Humiliatiya Mareea.

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>>26264044
It's not like the decision to go for a more explicitly scary tone for that scene is something exclusive to the PS3 remake. Kei Natsumi chose to do the exact same thing in the manga, only with better execution. The idea itself isn't bad nor does it go against her intended character. If anything the way it plays with your expectations and highlights the contrast in her two personas leads well into the discussion Battler then has with George and Jessica about her strange behavior, making for a perfect vehicle with which explore her character.

>> No.26264557

>>26264291
Maria is supposed to be scary in the first chapter, anyone arguing against that didn't understand the atmosphere at all or is just mindlessly bashing the ps3 version.
Why else would she be portrayed with scary, over the top laughter and widely grinning sprites in a murderous situation like that?

>> No.26264644

>>26264557
This, but I still hate those two cgs of her.

>> No.26264669
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>500 posts in less than 24 hours
Calm down a bit, anons. How are the threads so fast lately? Do you procrastinate an your obligation?

>> No.26264706

>>26264669
on your*

>> No.26264737

>>26264644
And that's perfectly fine. Those CGs miss their mark and go too hard with the crazy loli vibe. But that's not to say that the intent was misplaced, just poorly handled.

>> No.26264814

>>26264557
She's supposed to be mildly disturbing and off-putting, not scary. You are grasping at straws to defend a bad decision made to emulate the anime.

>> No.26264831

>>26264669
We're hyped over Phase 2's release date being revealed.

>> No.26264946

>>26264831
you mean the date on which the release date will be revealed?

>> No.26265028

>>26264946
The release date for the canonical Ciconia Gacha we'll get instead of Phase 2.

>> No.26265094
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Sounds like Arrakis needs the 8MS

>> No.26265116

>>26265028
You mean the canonical Ciconia STG made as a collab with ZUN.

>> No.26265327

>>26264814
They're no more grasping at straws than you are.
This whole argument is stupid and pointless.

>> No.26265478

>>26265116
I mean the live action movie that will act as the conclusion to Ciconia and heavily integrates CGI spacecrafts.

>> No.26265519

>>26246144
wholesome higanbana >>> le bully higanbana

>> No.26265578

>>26265519
Sadistbana = Wholesomebana

>> No.26265677

>>26265578
Banana > Bana

>> No.26265738

I feel like Ryu07 somewhat forgot about Keiichi. Rika and Battler, the other two wtc protagonists, and many more characters have reappearances in multiple works besides their own while Keiichi isn't even granted the right to stay the protagonist of his own game until the end.

>> No.26265794

>>26265738
To me, Keiichi has always been more of a self-insert character. He doesn't particularly stand out on his own as he's pretty uninteresting or compelling. That's probably why he's "forgotten".

>> No.26265989

>>26265794
Yeah true, but he still has his "magician of words" thing going for him and he's pretty infamous for being quick to kill someone in his chapters.
I feel like he could be integrated pretty nicely as a throwback to Higurashi.

>> No.26266078

>>26263710
The term 'suicide victim' and 'accident victim' exists. Thus, both variations technically are victims.

>well an accident in a mystery is not very well
so for you who died in an accident?

Well, accidents can happen if the victim was fleeing (from something/someone). For example it happen in The Hound of the Baskervilles.

George - he slipped and fell with his forehead on a fence. His body was probably moved. I suspect Ghoda and Kumasawa were going to be the 2nd Twilight victims but George acted out of order (probably because of Shannon) and he was killed.

>> No.26266477

I still believe in Rosatrice

>> No.26266494

>>26266078
George corpse moved do not explain the hig amount of blood near his corpse
he only had a hole in the head

>The term 'suicide victim' and 'accident victim' exists. Thus, both variations technically are victims.
>>26266477
what about Erikantrice?

>> No.26266525

>>26266477
No you don't.

>> No.26266983

>>26263654
You do. The writing in Ryukishi's novels is structured around the NVL screen. Each "page" functions as a paragraph, and the page breaks are used deliberately to control the rhythm of the reading experience. Displaying one sentence at a time at the bottom of the screen is objectively vastly inferior.

>> No.26267073

>>26265794
>Keiichi
>uninteresting

He is a cooler protagonist than Battler.

>> No.26267111

>>26267073
Because he is literally you.

>> No.26267144

>>26267073
Keiichi is fucking boring. He's a self insert. He's like that because he's based on similar self-insert MCs from other visual novels.

>> No.26267220

>>26221954
Actually, thinking about it, it might be lewd until I remember who that normal teenage ass belongs to. It's not disgusting for R*n* to have an ass. What's disgusting is that ass being attached to the human cockroach that is R***g* R*n*.

>> No.26267224

>>26267111
Keiichi is easily just as soulful and complex as the rest of the Higurashi cast. He has his own cluster of psychological problems (an overactive imagination, tendency toward paranoia, the occasional inability to read social cues, a lack of instinctive empathy), and if you still felt like he was literally you that just shows how good of a job Ryukishi did in putting you into his headspace.

>> No.26267246

>>26267144
I don't know bro. The stuff about "breaking fate into pieces" and him literally doing that in Minagoroshi to inspire Rika is pretty motherfucking cool. Way better than anything Battler has ever done. Also, the term "self-insert" gets thrown a lot but it isn't anything substantial. Please explain to me why he is a boring character.

>> No.26267294

>>26267224
I like Keiichi as well, but he is really bland in the first two chapters. That's further eccentuated when his personality completely changes from Tatarigoroshi on.

>> No.26267299

You know, I think digital books just ruined books in general. Pages are determined by screen size and font size instead of using the page breaks that the author had originally printed. It quite literally ruins their tenderly crafted prose. Hell, having a different font size so that more or less text is within view than the original at any given time is damning in and of itself. Ebook fags actively pursue having an inferior experience.

>> No.26267392

>>26267294
Onikakushi and Watanagashi focus on his flaws the most. I can understand not liking that side of Keiichi, but if you're describing it as "bland" you probably just didn't get how much of a fuck up he is because he pulled the wool over your eyes with his internal monologues.

>> No.26267445

Keiichi is a fucking LOSER that wanted to go to Hinamizawa to start again his life. He wants to escape from his problems. Oh god he is literally me!!!

>> No.26267486

>>26267445
this but unironically

>> No.26267533

>>26267486
I'm saying it unironically too.

>> No.26267911

>>26267392
>you probably just didn't get
Or you overestimate Ryukishi's foresight in writing his characters. Keiichi was meant to be a take on the typical VN protagonist with the twist that he's thrown into a gruesome and bloody situation. Most of his personality came with Tatarigoroshi and the following episodes.

>> No.26268466

>>26267299
I think people are more confident to read on a ebook format because they don't see the length of the book. It's quite descouraging to read a 600-700 pages story even though it interested you.

>> No.26268468

>>26267911
nah, there's enough foreshadowing to prove Ryuks had at least the broad strokes of the character arcs for the rest of the main cast planned out from the start. You're meant to see Keiichi as a standard vn protagonist so you'll go along with his terrible choices without question, but underneath that the characterization is solid - way better than with Battler, actually.

>> No.26268564
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26268564

>>26267073
Is he really though?

>> No.26268588

>>26267299
I bet you thought that was a clever parody of my post, but novelists don't generally work with page breaks to create flow, so it's just a false dichotomy. They use linebreaks, paragraphs, sub-chapters and chapters. If you were to turn an ebook into a solid block of text you'd get an inferior experience.

>> No.26268613

>>26268468
I get it, Keiichi being a bland self-insert protagonist in some chapters is somehow genius foreshadowing and characterization by Ryukishi while Battler's steady personality is bad.
You don't need to respond to me anymore.

>> No.26268638
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26268638

>>26267246
I mean, if we're gonna talk about cool...

>> No.26268660

>>26268613
>d-don't @ me
go back to twitter bitchboy

>> No.26268825

>>26268638
battler was rekt tho

nontheless the scene is still cooler in manga than in vn

>> No.26268831

>>26268468
I really enjoyed Battler's character arc. It was interesting to see his kindness and idealistic desire to see the good in people being portrayed as an obstacle to overcome. While Keiichi is able to get by on the usual ideology of believing in his friends til the bitter end, Battler is forced to come to terms with the possibility of betrayal as he struggles to deny the witch, and in doing so he gains an even greater appreciation and understanding for his family as he's able to see them for the flawed individuals that they are.

>> No.26268898

>>26268825
He was still able to throw Evatrice for a loop before she turned things back around on him, which in turn further exemplified her own standing as a threatening antagonist who wouldn't be so easily put down.

If you want a more straightforward example, I'm pretty sure the ending of Episode 5 is more hype than anything Keiichi ever pulls off.

>> No.26269839

>>26265519
le wholesome bully Higanbana >>>

>> No.26271729

>>26227413
It's in the publisher's/editorial's best interests to push properties they actually own instead of an adaptation.
SE doesn't own Umineko, but it does Kakegurui.

>> No.26271910

>>26271729
So long as it gets people to buy the magazine, does it really matter? Or is it a matter of external revenue from merchandising and the like?

>> No.26272531
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>Kool Kid Keiichi goes through endless pain throught thousands of fragments until he finally learns enough life lessons to save his abused friend and defeat an entire shadow government army
>Bitch Boy Battler screams at his imaginary witch harem for 120 hours until he suddenly just remembers everything way after everyone died

How can Battler even compare?

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>>26272531
>How can Battler even compare?
By not murdering his cute middle school girlfriends or being murdered by them in return.

>> No.26274330

>>26273095
>Battler and his friens are all Mion-tier beta bitches
Wow, that's like, so pathetic. Imagine if your friends didn't even have a strong enough will to murder you in cold blood.

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>>26265519
>>26265578
>>26269839
Yeah, it's no wonder people liked Higanbana more when she behaved like a tsun brat rather than the gay chuuni "fear my ancient yokai powers" scenes. I like Higanbana but it was really boring compared to his other works.
>>26265677
You win

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>>26265989
I was pretty convinced that Wayne was kinda the Keeichi expy in RGD. Seeing as Stella always patted his head or how he was surrounded by women in Primavera.

>> No.26274536

>>26273095
I will never accept the "middle school" bullshit.

>> No.26274569

>>26272531
>Kool Kid Keiichi goes through endless pain throught thousands of fragments until he finally learns enough life lessons to save his abused friend and defeat an entire shadow government army
lol stop crediting K1 like he did all that. Yes, he became the light for Rika to never lose hope and he's a wonderful piece like what he showed in Minagoroshi, but other than that, his far far from being close to the hell that Battler experienced which is Umineko.
He's on Rika level. No, some could say that he even surpassed her.

>> No.26274631

>>26274569
>No, some could say that he even surpassed her
Let me guess, those "some" are you?

>> No.26274696

>>26274631
Not really. I love Bernkastel more than Battler. She did really trained her real well though. (see Umineko ep 8)

>> No.26274739

>>26274334
Based Geragera-san taming Higanbana got me keking

>> No.26274836

>>26274739
Yeah this chapter was really fun. The one with the mirror world, right? Drunk Sakunoshin unironically made me tear up laughing. It was so retarded

>> No.26274916

>>26272531
Probably by not dying from literal brain damage that he's guaranteed to suffer from if he makes it past June lmao

>>26274569
I wouldn't compare Battler to Rika, the attempted suicide and shit was really rough but he doesn't have the experience of dying over and over again embedded in his brain, plus he never actually went in the water after Yasu. Even if we look at story Battler, a lot of (but admittedly not all of) the crap was stuff that he saw rather than experienced firsthand and his suffering in EP6 was a ruse.

>> No.26274960

>>26274569
Battler: lives through 7 loops, consisting of 2 days each, doesn't even really die as he isn't a piece anymore and is surrounded by people who know about his circumstances and grant him their support.
Rika: lives through who know how many loops, over a hundred years overall, and can tell her worries to no one since her only support is a whiny, pessimistic "god".

>> No.26275088

>>26246144
Elementary aschoolers are objectively pathetic and retarded.

>> No.26275214

>>26274423
Now that you mention it... He's a stubborn as Keiichi and does outrageous things when he gets fired up about protecting someone.

>> No.26275218

>>26274916
>>26274960
Yes. Gotta love a game board without the Knox rules.

>> No.26275220

>>26274960
You forget the part where battle literally trapped in a locked room for years.
At least Rika had fun most of the time within that hundred of years. Her suffering started from the day after watanagashi onward.

>> No.26275285

>>26275220
>battle literally trapped in a locked room for years
That was a charade on Battler's part, god did you even read the VN?

>> No.26275370

>>26275285
>a charade because he's stubborn to escape through the lock room on his own while waiting for the miracle that the witch revives
Not that guy, but yes I did read the vn and I'm pretty sure he still suffered being locked in it, even though he knows the trick. But that's why he wanted to protect it.

>> No.26275387

>>26266983
NVL vs AIDS.

>> No.26275493

>>26267220
Surely you mean Rina.

>> No.26275584

>>26267299
This is a disingenuous parody of my post. It doesn't work the same way with books. Nobody is turning books into solid blocks of text.

>> No.26275668

>>26275370
The whole chapter was part of Battler's game, even the entrapment and the marriage ceremony.
If Battler really had committed a logic error the game should've stopped right there as Erika said, so why do you think did the trial of love, which was a part of Battler's narrative, continue and miraculously end in a way beneficial to the game master?
It's because Battler planned all of it from the beginning.
Otherwise Lambdadelta (and Genji) wouldn't have praised his game board so much at the beginning if all he wanted to use was the typical "the victims aren't really dead"-trick anyways.

>> No.26275709

>>26268588
Why do people resort to fake dichotomy when they lose an argument? That faggot should just admit he can't argue back instead of parodying the original argument in an intellectually dishonest way.

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Guys i revisioned the first 5 chapter of my manifesto by adding things and fixed some errors or some old stuff

So i advice you to rereading and like always pls send me your opinions and doubts this is my only mathod to improve my manifesto

>> No.26275772

>>26275584
Not him, but while I can understand the point you're trying to make I think you're over exaggerating the affect it has. To me it feels like reading manga online with sites that load all the pages in a single vertical scroll. Sure it's not how the paneling and page turns were intended to be read, but it's not enough of a change to significantly affect my enjoyment one way or the other.

>> No.26275878

>>26274916
>>26274960
The fact that Battler solved the truth on his own already surpasses Rika. Though comparing them would be pretty unfair since Rika is just a child, while Battler is a teenager who had a great knowledge about the mystery genre, though Rika-chan did live a hundred years, but still didn't found out shit, until some 'miracle' came up.
To be fair, you cant really compare them both just from their suffering because the two 'game boards' are completely different. Soon people would compare Rika, Battler, and Miyao for who suffered the most like those anifags comparing characters power levels, which is fucking dumb.
But in my opinion , pretty sure Battler's character development is on the same level as Rika. I dont know. Probably because both characters surpasses the narrative or something.

>> No.26275991

As long as we agree that Keiichi is a regretful child-mutilator pedophile on borrowed time I don't really give a shit desu

>> No.26276035

>>26272531
>Keiichi
>has a harem of girls consisting of beautiful high schoolers and literal preteen children, all lusting after his dick

>Battler
>dumbass gets himself trapped in a room for centuries, refuses to escape because muh waifu's secret and then pretends it was all a ruse from the beginning

>> No.26276203

>>26275668
>so why do you think did the trial of love, which was a part of Battler's narrative, continue and miraculously end in a way beneficial to the game master?
Pretty sure if Battler continued the logic battle right there, he would definitely lose and the game would end. So the witches gave him a choice to be locked in the closed room instead until he finds a way. But sure, Beatrice is Battler's piece. Hence, he knew and he believed that she'll become the Endless witch again which would be inside Battler's plan in a way.
But remember, Battler is incompetent. So him trying to escape the lock room in his own to protect the truth from the witches is still pretty plausible in my opinion.

>> No.26276270

>>26275772
A better comparison to removing the NVL formatting would be removing paragraphs in a novel, or, in an e-book format, only displaying one or two sentences at a time. It's really pretty awful.

>> No.26276366

>>26275668
>>26276203
>Dem mind games, plot twists
How can any of the Higurashi characters even compare to them?

>> No.26276406

>>26262625
Chloe's titties exposed for everyone to see.

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>>26276406

>> No.26276524

>>26276478
>not cloedit 1 (2).png
for shame

>> No.26276563

>>26275709
The guy using hyperbole to try and argue in favor of PS3 sprites was like that too. The mere fact that they have to resort to these arguments is ultimate proof in itself that the updated versions are downgrades

>> No.26276655

>>26276035
Being Battler is suffering.. That's why I like him.

>> No.26276659
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>>26276478
>Chloe edit 1
Surely... There's more to this story than meets the eye, right?

>> No.26276727

>>26276563
To be fair, you have to balance accessibility and mass-marketability against genuine quality. The ps3 version did a lot to give Umi greater reach than it otherwise would have, without too many bad trade-offs (especially if you compare it to the abominable "vn-ified" version of Higurashi, with nonsensical extra content and a retarded choice-based route structure). Normies care a lot about voice acting, professional-looking sprites and cg and so on, and as a publisher you obviously want to increase audience reach.

>> No.26276819

>>26276655
Hey! At least he got some of that Ikuko puh!
Battler kinda reminds me of Mamiya Takuji. A combination of Yasu and Battler combined together into one character in fact.

>> No.26276962
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>>26276659
Perhaps...
https://mega.nz/file/B80HBCrR#qeapQ55Qw2IWh-jmmQRJ8V5GqdEuX9TqerHqUNysiVo

>> No.26277072
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>>26276819
Isn't Satoshi literally Takuji?

>they look the same
>wear the same clothes
>are meek on the outside
>have similar voices
>have a darker side that is initially hinted at through pee (Takuji's piss bottle in his base that scares off Zakuro and that one TIP where Satoshi is exhausted from dealing with Satoko and can't aim his pee correctly)
>secretly resent their loli sister to some degree
>deal with abusive parent figures
>got a giant stuffed animal for their sister
>some crazy lonely girl becomes obsessed with them, they have no idea about it, and said girl ends up falling off an apartment building
They are the fucking same. Which means Satoshi is probably an otaku pervert who wants to hatefuck his annoying sister. Shion is just romanticizing him without knowing how much of a fuck up he is, just like Zakuro.

>> No.26277097
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>>26276962
Now that's the good stuff. Thanks anon

>> No.26277112

>>26276962
Genuinely great.

>> No.26277194

>>26277072
uhh sure.
But not really.
>Which means Satoshi is probably an otaku pervert who wants to hatefuck his annoying sister
hot and based

>> No.26277237

>>26277097
Needs an Okonogi Chop to cleave straight into those Canadian mountains.

>>26277112
Thanks. I know I have Gunhild and Sesshat ones somewhere too.

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>>26273095

>> No.26277337

>>26277072
Satoshi is a nice boy. Takuji is a bitter and resentful school shooter incel that lacks the balls to even speak to strangers and is quickly turning into literal sociopath.

>> No.26277411

>>26277337
he rapes his sister, hasaki

>> No.26277442

>>26277337
>Takuji
Takuji is a sociopath, yes. That's his personality.
>>26277411
Hey no! That rooftop sex was romantic!

>> No.26277468

>>26277442
I thought he was just an antisocial nutjob

>> No.26277516

>>26277072
Satoshi went out of his way to defend Shion (who he thought was his classmate Mion) from scary delinquents that were trying to strip her naked, even though he was terrified of them.

What would Takuji do in the same situation? He'd probably call his classmate a normie whore in his head and hide behind a tree with his phone ready to film, hoping that she gets raped so he can cum buckets for weeks on end watching the video. The fact that he personally knows the girl would only make him less willing to help and more eager to see her humiliated.

>> No.26277546

>>26277468
After 'that' incident, he might be.
But at least his happy now with his sister and imaginary lover.

>> No.26277565

>>26277072
That's no too far from the truth. There's a tip where Satoshi feels the urge to grab Satoko's head and smash it against the wall to shut her up.

>> No.26277583

>>26277516
>Takuji
Yeah, Takuji might do that. I will agree.

>> No.26277710

>>26277546
shh. That's not 'Takuji' anymore.

>> No.26277931

>>26277710
If you think about it, Tomosane was the one into Gundam and other otaku shit as a kid. He just felt so guilty that he became a replacement for Takuji and attributed all his otaku interests to that persona, becoming a fucking loser with no balls. The real Takuji never cared about anime crap, so there is no posession or anything. It's just a mentally ill dude developing DID and losing his original personality for years.

>> No.26278059

>>26277931
I'd want to disappear into the subconscious too if I saw my literally perfect human being onee waifu fall to her death. It's better to forget all about that identity so you don't have to remember that shit.

>> No.26278114

>>26277931
Yeah. I didn't buy the possession bullcrap too. He was really just mentally ill. Though it's up to you if you think that Takuji is still Tomosane or not. I mean he is, but you know what I mean. Also, funny how Takuji never touched her sister until the last of his moment.

>> No.26278325

>>26277516
>simping for a slut good
>surpassing humanity by owning the video of a human's complete degradation bad
Remember Kanamori chuckling to himself during that boring teacher reunion, remembering that he has access to real life loli humiliation and has surpassed the level of humans? He may be a scumbag, but that's a real chad right there. He has access to pleasures and sights none of those normie teacher could even imagine, so he is superior to them.

Takuji is that type of guy, except he's driven by resentment and incelhood rather than a desire to surpass humans.

>> No.26278332

Sir this is a 07thExpansion thread

>> No.26278348

What will happen if i clicked the wrong kakera?

>> No.26278380
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>>26278348
Fuck i forgot the pic

>> No.26278381

>>26278325
>rather than a desire to surpass humans
I mean.. He got that drive later on. You know? The savior, God's messenger, and stuff.

>> No.26278408

>>26278348
Ryukishi comes out of the monitor and punches your medulla oblongata in like a puppet without strings

>> No.26278452

>>26278348
You'll get filtered out of the 'system' and you'll be stuck in that purple screen for a thousands of years.

>> No.26278555

>>26278348
Literally nothing, do it at your leasure. But you unlock a bonus post-game kakera if you come back to that section after finishing the game and do it all perfectly without failing.

>> No.26278612

>>26278325
Is it really so strange to have a teacher meeting where one of them is secretly thinking about loli ass to cure his boredom?

>> No.26278694

Miyao's order will slowly turn into a RGD style mafia when people start disobeying him and he uses his dad's connections to obtain dirt on the likes of Rethabile and keep her under his thumb.

>> No.26278729

>>26278694
What kind of dirt on Rethabile could the wisteria order find?

>> No.26278871

>>26278612
Not in Japan. Those are some seriously cute lolis.

>> No.26278928

>>26278325
>could only fuck a glasses girl with no self-esteem
Lame. A real chad would find a way to humiliate the cutest and proudest girl around.

>> No.26279028

>>26278928
a real chad would feign injuries to get ghost blowjobs from higanbana

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>>26244884

>> No.26279487

>Eat a shit ton of junk food before going to sleep
>Have vivid dream where Rudolph is my father and constantly roasting me for my shitting business practices
>Wake up really angry

>> No.26279545
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>>26278928
A real chad would secretly lead a group of bullies and reward them with high grades if they cross the line and butt-humiliate their target on camera. That way, Kanamori wouldn't need to commit any crime and still get his humiliation fix. He could even use his authority as a teacher to create situations where his favorite girl is embarrassed in front of everyone and then order the bullies to mercilessly bully her for it.

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>> No.26280134
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>>26279913
Simple, but so effective

>> No.26280152
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>>26278325
Kanamori is LITERALLY the K1 expy that other anon was looking for. The whole idea of "I'm doing a lot of good work for no reward, so I have the right to do something bad as compensation" is what drives Kanamori and pre-Hinamizawa Keiichi to attack little girls. They feel stressed and unrewarded, so they feel they deserve to have fun doing something immoral.

They even have the exact same train of thought about them "still being good guys in the end" because those sins are outweighed by their other good actions.

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>>26280134

>> No.26280338
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>>26280241

>> No.26280376

>>26280152
The guy was a fantastic teacher, so he was still virtuous despite humiliating someone on the side. The murder made him a real evil fuck, though. Then again, Marie could've just come to terms with her humiliation and end the relationship peacefully instead of trying to completely ruin a man's life because your human condition is so shameful and you hate feeling shame. It's a disproportionate punishment for a relatively medium-level sin. After all, it's not like she's being humiliated in public. It's all between two people, so she can easily forget about him and pretend it never happened.

>> No.26280411

>>26280152
I understand the sex, but why shoot little girls in particular? Does K1 enjoy hearing them squeal in fear with their cute voices?

>> No.26280498

>>26280152
I never noticed how much they had in common. Both of them are pedos too, although Keiichi is too busy with his love triangle to even glance at Satoko.

Battler is more like Akasaka. His pedo jokes were just him joking around to mess with Beatoreeche and save Rosa.

>> No.26280579

>>26280376
Literally every character in Higanbana should've just come to terms with their humiliation and keep living like normal except bullies can strip them of their dignity whenever they want for being so pathetic.

It's better than killing yourself or making a shady contract with a literal youkai.

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>>26280338

>> No.26280681

>>26280579
Life isn't worth it without dignity. Yukari would've grown up as an unhappy person with massive traumas. Even if she somehow convinced herself to enjoy the humiliation and be a pathetic bottom bitch for the entire class, she would still be missing out on friends, relationships and normal childhood experiences. That regret would haunt her forever.

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>>26280636

>> No.26280853

>>26279545
Why does every RGD villain have gay jokes made at his expense?

>> No.26280907

>>26280636
ベアトリス?ベアトリーチェ?

>> No.26280943

>>26280376
The human condition is so obscenely shameful that it fills normies and sjws with uncontrollable rage. That's why they consider rape or even train molestation worse than murder and torture.

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>>26280846

>> No.26281486

>>26246144
I love this girl more than Beato and Mion combined. Such a literal cute!

>> No.26281688

The Koizumi phone call is one of my favorite fragments in Matsuribayashi. Takano in general is an underrated and misunderstood villain.

>> No.26281852

>>26281688
It's actually hard to misunderstand Takano since her motives are thrown into your face for the first half of Matsuribayashi.

>> No.26283368

>>26273095
at least keiichi's gf is a girl unlike fagler

>> No.26283463

>>26281486
it's difficult to say which characters you love the most when you love them in such different ways.

>> No.26283625

>>26280411
Least likely to fight back. Though I am curious now how would that have sounded like had he not gone ahead and blasted one in the eye.

>>26280907
ベアトリーチェエエエエエエエエエ

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>>26283368
Come over here and say that to her tits, I dare you.

>> No.26285261

>>26284198
I'll say it right in front of Yasu's cute manboobs.

>> No.26285544

>>26281852
People often hate her and don't even try to get into her headspace, even though the story forces you to.

>> No.26285707

It is astounding how much better Umineko is than Higurashi, yet there are still faggots blinded by nostalgia who claim it'd be otherwise.
Truly astounding.

>> No.26285777

>>26285707
While Umineko is better in almost every department, I still think the characters in Higurashi are better and more fun than the Umineko ones.

>> No.26285830

>>26285777
That is wrong, but I respect your opinion.

>> No.26285929

>>26285544
people resist seeing individuals they sympathize as villains and sympathizing with individuals they recognize as villains. The umineko fanbase is also split along this opposition, with people who understand and care about beatrice searching for other characters to blame for her tragic fate, and people who don't discount her cruelty rejecting the validity of her motives as well.
>>26285707
>makes unsupported claim to feel better about himself
nice golden truth uminekofag, you're entitled to your opinions.

>> No.26286026

>>26285707
Higurashi has better characters and story. Matsuribayashi alone shits all over all the Umineko characters except maybe Maria.

>> No.26286256
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>>26285261
Yasu's barren chest ≠ Beato's bountiful boobs

>> No.26289628

>>26280152
Kanamori is based. Camera kid can go kill himself.

>> No.26289647

New thread
>>26279630

>> No.26292186
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>>26226724
attonement arc manga was really good and I love Karin's artstyle

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>>26226798
heh. i'm missing episode 6 vol 1and I saw one copy for $1,000

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>>26292186
It sure is great...

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