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Anonymous Wed May 13 14:20:14 2009 No.2585299 [Reply] [Original]

Referencing folklore about the Oni. Sometimes translators translate the name of the species to demons, but isn't that a bit of a generalization? What's the next closest equivalent of the Oni in western mythology/folklore, an Ogre? Explosive orgasm Suika very related.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:21:14 2009 No.2585302 Ogres, but with horns.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:22:14 2009 No.2585305 more explosive orgasms please

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:27:14 2009 No.2585319 File: 137 KB, 476x354, SUIKAsleep.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Explosive orgasm Suika

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:30:14 2009 No.2585325 I almost always see it translated to ogre

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:30:14 2009 No.2585326 >>2585305

>>	Suigin !YUsuiginy. Wed May 13 14:31:14 2009 No.2585327 ogres

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:32:14 2009 No.2585329 File: 389 KB, 774x1252, 1238590963114.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:32:14 2009 No.2585332 Japanese has like a dozen words that all mean "demon" or "monster," and no one can ever agree on how to translate them.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:34:14 2009 No.2585337 File: 18 KB, 214x313, hotstuff.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think Hot Stuff and his family are oni. What do you guys think?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:35:14 2009 No.2585343 >>2585337 It's carrying a pitchfork instead of a club, so no. Also, pointy tail.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:39:14 2009 No.2585359 >>2585329 If that's not a shoop then sauce?

>>	Anonymous of Austria Wed May 13 14:41:14 2009 No.2585366 >>2585299 Why not just write oni ?

>>	Suika !IbukiozMj2 Wed May 13 14:50:14 2009 No.2585386 >>2585359 It's a shop, but the part shopped in is from Touhou Vitamin A to D. Shit's fucking awesome.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:53:14 2009 No.2585394 >>2585366 Because apparently some people think it's "weeaboo" to want to use Japanese words for Japanese things. People like that are why "onigiri" becomes "donut."

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:58:14 2009 No.2585418 Aren't they like Goblins?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:01:14 2009 No.2585430 >>2585418 Goblins are usually depicted as having a knack for gadgetry, so they might be more like land kappas.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:03:14 2009 No.2585437 >>2585394 no, that's what 4kids does, sane people are satisfied with rice ball

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:06:14 2009 No.2585444 >>2585418 >>2585430 Oni = Ogres Tengu = Goblin Karasutengu = \社命丸/

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:07:14 2009 No.2585450 >>2585437 sake -->4kids--> hot sauce

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:08:14 2009 No.2585453 They're names of creatures in a particular mythology--you're probably not going to get an accurate translation because other countries won't have that mythology and corresponding creature names in their language.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:11:14 2009 No.2585459 >>2585299 Holy fuck that picture is hot. Moar!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:16:14 2009 No.2585478 >>2585437 Do those people also call pizza "tomato pie" and hamburger "beef sandwich", or is their sanity only limited to Japanese food?

Anonymous Wed May 13 15:22:14 2009 No.2585502

>>2585430
Kappa are more medically oriented than technologically. The western equilavent is various aquatic humanoids like the nix or kelpie, they also seem to be portrayed similarly (nix can be both beneficial or harmful depending on the story in question, kelpies drag humans to water and eat them in some variants and so do the kappa)

Oni are within the "large humanoid monster that eats people" category so yeah ogres are the closest equilavent.

However no mythological creature should be "translated" into another language, it should be readily obvious that it's utterly retarded.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:23:14 2009 No.2585505 >>2585502 In b4 murlocs.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:25:14 2009 No.2585512 >>2585478 >Intentional misinterpretations

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:25:14 2009 No.2585515 >>2585299 The thumbnail looks like if she had a double Geass.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:28:14 2009 No.2585528 File: 136 KB, 410x385, AWESOME.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2585515

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:34:14 2009 No.2585551 File: 504 KB, 838x741, f0dc5002c5379bc326aab377760632fd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FUCK YEAH ONI

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:39:14 2009 No.2585562 File: 452 KB, 1054x1500, 05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bed time!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:42:14 2009 No.2585580 >>2585502 Tell that to the ancient Greeks. I don't remember the word for it, but they had a habit of correlating foreign mythology with their own, and ultimately integrating it.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed May 13 15:44:14 2009 No.2585590 >>2585580 The Romans were even worse. Not only did they devour the Greek's mythology, they made it seem like THEY were the ones it was made for.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:47:14 2009 No.2585603 Oni appreciation thread, Yes?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:49:14 2009 No.2585610 When Magic made their weeaboo expansion, they had both Demons and Ogres. My head asploded.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:51:14 2009 No.2585622 File: 505 KB, 1054x1500, 16.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2585603 Yes

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:51:14 2009 No.2585626 >>2585590 Makes you wonder what would have been if they came into contact with Japanese and Mesoamerican culture.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:25:14 2009 No.2585732 Everyone knows "Akuma" is the more proper translation for a western demon.

>>	BOOF !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Wed May 13 16:32:14 2009 No.2585754 File: 280 KB, 856x1210, [SaHa] Inaba Box 1 - 32.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2585305

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Wed May 13 16:41:14 2009 No.2585783
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Oni don't conform entirely to western beasts, nor to western spirits. Although they are far removed from the western (read: christian) idea of demons.

Among other things, oni are carnivorous and actually enjoy the finer things in life while demons mainly eat souls or some inedible waste.
Food time.

>>	BOOF !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Wed May 13 16:49:14 2009 No.2585803 >>2585783 also gray pupon

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 17:14:14 2009 No.2585877 >>2585622 >>2585562 source? i forgot the name

>>	Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T Wed May 13 17:15:14 2009 No.2585882 >>2585877 http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2jzmy43mwm0

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 17:21:14 2009 No.2585904 >>2585882 thanks hong <3

>>	Koakuma !!QTSq2xniWw5 Wed May 13 19:51:14 2009 No.2586746 >>2585622 I wish I could kill 2D characters.

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