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Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, and all 07th related works discussion thread.

>> No.24944307
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ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

Umineko saku confirm Erikantrice
Erika is confirmed by saku a personality

DENY THIS SHKANONTRICEFAGS

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>>24944307
PERSON=BODY
IT'S NOT FIXED WHAT IS ERIKA'S BODY

saku must be called Erikantrice manifesto the VN
>confirm by dlanor that no one find the solution
>george is the culprit in beatrice beta game
>erika is confirmed a personality and the 19th man that blacknail natsuhi

>> No.24944610
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This character is literally me

>> No.24944986

Satoko is a kid! What a loser!

>> No.24945121

Each new 07th Expansion thread is like going through yet another iteration of being stuck in an infinite timeloop.

>> No.24945827

So from what I gather, having decided not to play or buy it for various reasons, Ciconia

is about a post apocalyptic world with kids addicted to the net which is also full dive virtual reality, but they're also child soldiers since there's like an Infinite Stratos thing going on where only kids can be actual deterrents, and there's this weird PC authoritarian collectivist approach to it, so like if you try to say a bad word or mention something extraordinary or even above average that you achieved or got to take place in, you'll get censored or reprimanded or whatever, but anyways one day shit hits the fan due to like, a multi-tude of conspiracy theories going live at once, our hero, Mitake Miyao, tries to at least come up with a strategy to save his fellow Child Soldiers but it doesn't really work, everyone is insane and just about the only person who seems to come ahead is a purple Miyao who keeps on laughing about the end of the world and the fucking clown.

But the game is seemingly also about propaganda and misinformation so maybe it's a great and simple read and I'm misinformed.

>> No.24946255
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What fantasy class is she?

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>>24945121
You got it except that the purple Miyao is blue. Also, Miyao's dad is Tomitake.

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>>24945121
You understand what she felt now

>> No.24949366

>>24949117
I would love being in Rika's position. Fuck saving everyone lmao, I'd just mess around nonstop. Imagine all the things you could do since you can just "reset".

>> No.24950663

>>24949366
I am pretty sure Rika had that mindset for a moment.

>> No.24950994

>>24949366
The whole point is that she's not resetting anything, she's trying again in a parallel universe. The ending is actually depressing because she's trying to pretend this world is the only one that exists, even though she fucked up countless worlds in her attempt to find a solution.

>> No.24952117

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddJHCUmIC8M

>> No.24953780

>>24949366
That’s all fun until you stop caring about messing around and become nihilistic but you can’t even end your shit because you’ll just go to the next fragment.

>> No.24953822
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Chloe is the mastermind

>> No.24953859

>>24946255
witch

>> No.24953922

>>24946255
bitch

>> No.24954237

>>24946255
waifu

>> No.24954291

>>24946255
mom

>> No.24954502

>hates women and thinks they are all unintelligent and irrational
>is a massive faggot himself and famous for having a woman's intuition
What's Miguel's problem?

>> No.24954611

So did Jeanne purge Alfred? That mofo would definitely do something crazy to avenge his friend.

>> No.24954780

>>24953822
Alan Smithee is the Mastermind

>> No.24954929

>>24953822
Aren't these VR experiences produced from your imagination and improved with pre-made materials found online?

Either Chloe has an incredible imagination capable of reproducing every sense in extreme detail or these are literally memories of the real world before she became a brain in a jar.

>> No.24954967

How could a Selcom work with someone that has aphantasia? Is everything just a concept?

>> No.24954999

>the planet is literally dead and relying on a clusterfuck of nanomachines
>Naima is forced to take drugs that cause permanent brain damage
>every character is a schizo with several genders
There is no fucking way this is ending on a happy note.

>> No.24955060

>>24954967
It probably uses technology to prevent the image from disappearing in half a second when you try to focus on it. Most cases of perceived "aphantasia" are just that.

True aphantasia, if it really exists, would probably require a modified version of Selcom that produces the images without relying on that part of the brain. Or else you become a boomer at age 10.

>> No.24955108

>>24954999
The story will end with Jayden and Miyao reluctantly having children in an EoE style ending. Meow dies halfway through the story after the military tricks them into taking some weird drug. It's hinted that one of Naomi's alters permanently disappeared this way.

>> No.24955421

>>24954502
Being a faggot.

>> No.24955444
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Fry is the Mastermind

>> No.24955644
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RGD is Ryukishi's magnum opus and your not a true R07 fan until you read it. This is the undeniable truth.

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>>24954502
Am I gay if I find Miguel kinda hot?
I got really hard when he almost raped Rose

>> No.24955763

>>24955644
Fine, fine, I'll read it already.

>> No.24955783

>>24955763
Shit it's not localized yet, I was hoping what with Ciconia being Day One English Steam Release it would be.

>> No.24955891

>>24955783
?
it is, just not on steam. It's a witch hunt patch just like the old translation of umineko

>> No.24956610

>>24955694
He gets a really manly military outfit and haircut near the end of his arc in the manga.

>> No.24956632

>>24955694
Miguel is a rare fag that is built as fuck and could destroy you with a single punch, while also being feminine as fuck.

>> No.24956672

>>24955694
I haven't read RGD, but his face pisses me off.

>> No.24956720

>>24950994
Did you not see the quotation marks I put around reset?

>>24953780
Sounds like someone doesn't know of enough ways to have a blast. I'm sure I'd eventually end up in that state, but it'd take quite a long time, longer than Rika's been going at it. Maybe at that point I'd just take a break for a little and try to fix things, then go back to having fun. Or maybe every other time.

>> No.24956776

>>24955644
I probably wouldn't love it so much if I got into it expecting some masterpiece. It's better to go in with low expectations and get surprised. The first part does a good job of misleading you about what kind of story this is.

My only criticism is that it ends up being more depressing than Grave of the Fireflies. At some point, without realizing it, I got really attached to these characters, most of which I didn't give a fuck about in Season 1. So that last season felt like a kick in the balls. Cynical as all fuck. It didn't make me cry in the same way Umineko did, but it left me feeling 10 times emptier for months. I still haven't reread the damn thing even though I really want to. It's just fucking depressing in the worst way possible.

>> No.24956817
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>Based in literally every single VN he appears

based

>> No.24956859

>>24956817
Moron somehow always ends up fighting for the losing side.

Also where is he in Higanbana? Maybe raping and blackmailing some lolis as a sneakier Kanamori that never gets caught?

>> No.24957018

>>24956776
I think that kick in the balls is so effective because Ryuukishi actually treats it like a tragedy that derails everything. It feels organic and therefore hurts more. Other stories do similar things, but they clearly set up characters to die or leave no room for the story to advance in an interesting way, making the "derailment" feel necessary in order to continue the story. Meanwhile, Ryu sets up the whole association thing, the situation with Davis, the slow development of several characters and relationships, etc. It really feels like the story could've continued organically and the characters could've become even more likable. A what if scenario without Gabriel's shit would feel perfectly natural and lead to an equally interesting story arc. That's why this motherfucker's actions are so infuriating and hurt so much. The story and the characters aren't set up for this, they still had a lot to offer, but Ryu had the balls to truly sacrifice all that instead.

>> No.24957116

>>24954929
The chat room avatars are created by looking at your own body and having the program turn that visual information into an avatar. So there is nothing under their surface appearance.

Chloe's avatar probably has a second layer that shows her naked body, since she's a pervert and likes the possibility of someone hacking her brain and using that to blackmail her. She probably has a fully nude one with a mask on, which she uses to make her porn VRs. Meaning Gunhild has been flicking the bean to Chloe's real naked body the whole time.

>> No.24957147

If lolis hate being humiliated, why do they become bullies and enjoy humiliating their peers?

>> No.24957187

>>24957116
But it's all VR, so they don't have beans at all.

>> No.24957273

>>24957187
Even if they are brains in jars, they must have existed on the outside world before the matrix. I think Phase 1 is showing us one of the repetitions inside the simulation, but the settings and the characters are the same as they originally were IRL.

Umineko and Higurashi also start in the middle of an endless loop, but the setting and characters were exactly the same before the loop started.

>> No.24957290

>>24957147
It's a loli bully loli world.

>> No.24957362

>>24954611
>implying she didn't make up her young version's existence
>implying she's not just Claudia

>> No.24957622

>>24955783
Take this : https://nyaa.si/view/1159644..

>> No.24957702

>>24956859
He was the janitor

>> No.24958046

>>24956776
>>24957018
What really kills me is how unexpected it was. After Higurashi and Umineko you'd expect the mad man to do shits like that, but he always manage to make me fall for the same tricks again and again. Up until Gabriel apparences there were no explicit mentions of someone's death, the nameless mobs never get explicitly killed, even the characters who should have died like Caleb or Alfred just pop up again in the next season like nothing happened. I genuinely thought that Ryukishi couldn't kill his characters permanently. But all of this was just a fucking build up for Season 3 and 4. I fucking screamed at Yuji's death, I don't think I can read all the happy-go-lucky shit again knowing what happens in the end

>> No.24958256

>>24957702
You mean this kind of janitor?

https://nhentai.net/g/158351/

>> No.24958283

I see Steam has up to Chapter 8 of Higurashi released. That is the full thing, right? If I go for that, is that everything I'll need for the full story, or is there content only covered in the older release? Is the Steam version the best option for Higurashi right now?

>> No.24958334

>>24958283
I guess

>> No.24958385

>>24958283
Yeah just like Umineko, the 8 chapters are the full story
I don't know if they translated all the side stories, but they're not really important and are more of a cash grab than a real continuation

>> No.24958396

>>24958283
Saikoroshi is a great addition to the story. I would consider it arc 9.

>> No.24958417

>>24955783
RGD has been fan translated for nearly a decade, lol.

>>24958396
This too.

>> No.24958426

>>24958385
Alright cool, just making sure there wasn't going to be 5 replies instantly saying "FUUCK NO DON'T BUY THAT VERSION IT'S SHIT" as soon as I mentioned it
>>24958396
Is that something I need a copy of the original VN for, or is it available separately as a fan disc or something? I'd google it but I'm assuming googling the name of something past the main story would be spoiler-filled.

>> No.24958541

>>24958426
It's part of Higurashi Rei. Just torrent it and look for the English patch. Rei comes with two other chapters, but they are just non-canon slice of life and the translation is terrible. Saikoroshi is the important part, and also pretty well translated.

>> No.24958570

>>24958426
>5 replies instantly saying "FUUCK NO DON'T BUY THAT VERSION IT'S SHIT" as soon as I mentioned it
I mean, it's kinda shit, but it's the best we have other than reading the original in Japanese. I would recommend not applying the february update from last year, since it fucked up all the music. There is also some nudity censorship, which is a bummer.

>> No.24958609

>>24958426
>BUY
Just pirate it, dude. Buy the original from the 07th Expansion website if you want to support Ryuukishi, but don't give those incompetent retards at Mangagamer any money. They don't deserve it. Their translation is mediocre as fuck, unpolished and censored.

>> No.24958617

>>24958385
The best version is the japanese one, the french translation is very good too, miles better than even the new english one
But if you're EOP it's not like you have a choice

>> No.24958742

>>24958426
The Steam version is perfectly enjoyable. Hell, even the old Mangagamer version was decent. It's just not nearly as good as it could be, with some baffling decisions like that music replacement, the Satoko censorship (this wasn't censored in the old version) and the overall lack of polish. At one point they completely fucked up the credits of Meakashi and took a year to fix it.

By all means, enjoy Higurashi. But don't give these parasites any money. They are just hacks leeching off Ryu's works without respecting them in the slightest.

Higurashi was being translated back in the day by a very dedicated fan group similar to Witch Hunt. Imagine how good that could've been if they weren't forced to cancel it when MG bought the rights.

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So everything is VR, and Vier's group are becoming aware of that? The girl Meow is the original personality, and Miyao is the murder program, presumably created by Tojiro and his "mom" (Vier? Tojiro talks about his ex-wife to Jestress as if it's a third person). But why was it necessary to have Miyao kill Lingji? The order was a failure anyway. If Miyao is somehow necessary for the Kings or Mitake's plans, we didn't see that, since we didn't see the end of the world anyway.

>> No.24959169

>>24958396
"I would consider it arc 9"
that's what it is officially, it's disc name is even "higurasi9"

>> No.24959195

>>24959159
>So everything is VR
no

>> No.24959212

>>24958742
>>24958570
07th-mod has OST patches specifically for that dumb update.

>> No.24959316

http://www.07th-expansion.net/rose/character/20.htm

This official site is pretty great for grabbing full body sprites of all the characters. All you have to do is click on the nametag behind their head. Many of them have super weird legs. Claudia is longcat in human form and Nina's pose is... something. She sure loves spreading her legs.

>> No.24959341

>>24959316
I love how all the characters drawn by Ryuukishi have stiff stocky legs reminiscent of Umineko.

>> No.24959517

>>24959316
>saying the H-word
Don't provoke him

>> No.24959675

>>24959517
the fact that humiliation anon has an ass is simply mindblowing

>> No.24960105
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Is Eva-beatrice older than Ange-beatrice?

>> No.24960113

>>24959169
So is it just not coming to steam for an arbitrary reason, or is there a chance it's coming?

>> No.24960227

>>24960113
The title of the steam release is WTC : Higurashi Hou which is a title that gather the mains arcs (qa & aa) and all the fandiscs. So, there might be a chance that saikoroshi get an official translation by MG.

>> No.24960363

>>24957362
Claudia was a red herring

>> No.24960418

>>24960363
Honestly Jeanne character in 1950 was pretty weak, I know it's kinda the point but she contribute to nothing in the story and appears for what feels like 2 hours. Even Tequila had more presence than her
would have been better if it was Claudia

>> No.24960459

>>24960418
I really liked her character. Claudia wouldn't work because she's just an innocent potato girl.

Come to think of it, what was she even doing in the club at the beginning? She doesn't seem like a prostitute at all.

>> No.24960540

>>24960459
I think she was. That's what the wiki says at least.
But to be fair Rose didn't seem like the madame of a brothel either at the beginning.
I think it was supposed to show that even normal women had to whore themselves after the war, but Idk

>> No.24960625

>>24960363
>Claudia and old Jeanne are drawn by Ryuukishi, both look like potatoes
>she was there from the beginning to know the story firsthand
>same hair color
>traditional as fuck
>Rose's best friend
>gets kidnapped with Wayne for a long time, which is suspicious because Wayne and Jeanne are very close in the future
>has motives to paint Rose as a saint and perpetuate the made up legends of Primavera, which explains why no random mooks die in the gunfights early on and why Leo is so impossibly competent in the hotel fight
>has a painting of Higanbana in her office (???)
She's witch Claudia and everyone in the story is her piece.

>> No.24960647

>>24960540
Rose was literally a virgin, she was only in that position because Rika and Satoko voted for her to fuck over Amanda.

>> No.24960671

>>24960625
Leo is so competent because he genuinely doesn't give a fuck about his own life. He and Alfred are similar.

>> No.24960672

>>24960647
Maybe Claudia was a virgin too and just cooked for her customers

>> No.24960701

>>24960459
Have you seen her legs? She's definitely a whore, maybe forced by the circumstances. She seems innocent, but she had some shrewd facial expressions.

>> No.24960729

>>24960671
I don't give a fuck about my own life but I still can't take on 40 armed men alone

>> No.24960779

>>24960729
He tricked them into thinking there were snipers around. No fool would just sit there waiting for 40 men alone. And then he got lucky as fuck, which is a trait of his. Whether his luck ran out or not, that scene wasn't really that important by then. Once the men started panicking and looking for concealed snipers, Rose had already chased her targets out of the building.

>> No.24960940

>>24959159
>why was it necessary to have Miyao kill Lingji?
I think it's meant to completely sever the possibility of a chivalric order re-grouping after the christmas battle - which could still have happened if the leaders had retained their integrity and just been unable to do anything to prevent the tragedy, and serve as motivation fuel for whatever next big thing Mitake has planned for Miyao.

>> No.24961014

Fuck I'm so excited for what kind of message ryukishi wants to convey with Ciconia. There are so many different routes he could take.

>> No.24961018

>>24960940
Wouldn't his perfect plan fail if Miyao fucking killed himself after that?

>> No.24961053

>>24961018
Mitake doesn't know about AI-Miyao, right? And Miyao by himself wouldn't make the connection that he has to kill himself to save the world from himself. He resists the idea even when it is spelled out for him.

>> No.24961173

>>24960113
this >>24960227
I assume that just like how they're going to translate the extra stuff for Umineko that they'll also take on Higurashi's.

>> No.24962070 [DELETED] 

>>24958046
Yuji's death was the single most emotionally powerful scene I've ever experienced in a VN. I absolutely loved RGD, but I don't think I'll ever have the mental strength to read it again, knowing what happens in the latter half.

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>tfw reading Onikakushi again knowing that Rena was only trying to help K1
Fuck man..

>> No.24962568
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So why was Higu marketed like it was some chuuni slasher horror series like pic related? I stayed away from the VN for years because I just thought it was edgy schlock.

>> No.24962631

>>24962568
Wakarimasen lol

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if Iwakura Lain were a witch, what kind of witch she would be?

>> No.24962847

>>24962568
Why was the notation of timeloops introduced in the 90s? Why was the notation of timeloops introduced in the 90s? Why was the notation of timeloops introduced in the 90s? Why was the notation of timeloops introduced in the 90s?

>> No.24963177

>>24962847
So what is it?
https://youtu.be/TxWN8AhNER0

>> No.24963621
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I made an Umineko comic

>> No.24963662

>>24963621
Not the same Beatrice.

>> No.24963676

Alright, so, unless there is a super secret upload hidden somewhere, nobody has scanned the official english Umineko manga or uploaded the digital versions (past the first two volumes). All we have is the old low quality scanlation. Should I buy them and share? Shit would cost $272.79 for the digital versions. I'd love to get the physical volumes, but... for most of them they are either out of print and nobody is selling their copy, or they're much more expensive.

>> No.24963694

>>24963676
Lad I would suck your fucking dick and become your sex slave if you did that. The Umineko manga is fucking great and I’m fucking pissed I can’t buy physicals for it since they are out of print. Please rip the digital versions if you can

>> No.24963708

>>24963662
She knows it happened, though. She reminds herself of Kinzo is what I was getting at.

>> No.24963751

>>24963708
Don’t worry lad I know what you were doing, nice comic.

>> No.24963790

>>24963751
Aw, ok. Thanks.

>> No.24963884
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The real criminals were Hideyoshi and George. Eva covered up the crime not because she wanted to protect Ange's memories of her family (whom she hated by that point,) but because she wanted to protect her own family's memory. Also, Beatrice is a biological woman.

These facts are still immutably true, even if Shkanontrice theory is correct.

>> No.24963885

>>24963694
If I go through with it, it will have to be next month. Wallet is too tight right now.

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>>24962631

>> No.24963931

>>24963884
>filename
What?

>> No.24963981

>>24963931
Who even knows anymore

>> No.24964034
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>>24963931

You know, I'm not 100% myself? Could've been that I re-named it at some point because some tranny was seething. Out of whatever context that I might have been, yeah, the filename doesn't make sense anymore 草草

>> No.24964379

>>24963676
I have volumes 2, 4, 5, and 6, trading for the last 3 volumes of higurashi or a 1zz trd supercharger with cash on my end

>> No.24964690

>>24963676
The official translation is kinda shit because it intentionally avoids using terms widely used in the fandom and the VN translation. It's really jarring.

We are better off scanning the Japanese version first, in good quality. That should be the first priority.

>> No.24964703

>>24964690
The worst part is that they don't color in the red, blue, or gold text, outside of special pages. Plus cramming 3 or 4 volumes into a fat fucking omnibus makes it annoying to hold when you're reading it, like a dictionary or Ayn Rand book.

>> No.24964761

>>24964690
Why the Japanese version? Unless the english release cut content, then there's no reason to specifically get the Japanese release. A digital english version would already be translated and cleaned, if the only issue is a few lines because of them avoiding specific terms, then someone can easily go through and fix them.

>>24964703
Text colour would be a quick and easy to fix.

>> No.24965477

The witches and big bad of Ciconia and R07 walk into a bar. They engage in a high conceptual battle that will determine which of them is simply a metaphor for homosexuality, which of them is an insane delusion, which of them is real, and which of them is actually real.

The bartender, who at this point the group is fairly well convinced actually just represents the cruel neutrality of the masses, is overworked and tipped with a blank sheet of paper, which of course could be anything in the kakeras he wanted, if only he had love to see it.

>> No.24965943

>>24963621
The art is nice but I had to look at it lile three times to get it.

>> No.24965993

>>24965477
lol'd

>> No.24966140

By WTC 7, the cast will be entirely composed of recurring characters.

>> No.24966221

>>24964761
>Why the Japanese version? Unless the english release cut content, then there's no reason to specifically get the Japanese release.
Because it's the original and you can't trust the Japanese to scan it themselves. Any weeb should learn Japanese eventually, so it would be a bummer if by that point the original Umineko manga was lost to time with no decent scans. Also, you can edit the Japanese scans to create a much better translation than the official one, which is pretty damn annoying and worthless.

>> No.24966283

>>24966221
There's a digital release of the Japanese version, so there's no reason for any concern. As far as editing and creating a much better translation, you can do just the same with the English version. Going with the JP version would just be pointless and making that task even more difficult.

>> No.24966354

>>24963621
is tumbrl art so shit

>> No.24966371

>>24963676
the manga is shit
change,add and cut half of the story to make shkanontrice works

>> No.24966475
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>> No.24968584

>>24963621
beatrapitsd

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>Yasu shipped her mother figure and her friend

>> No.24972804

>>24968584
>beatrice
>trap
>rapist
>ptsd
did I miss anything?

>> No.24974243

>>24972804
You missed pits, as in armpits.

>> No.24976073

>>24959316
>they were here all along
What the fuck, I've been looking for the full body art for years.

>> No.24976336

>>24958046
I think rgd genuinely gave me ptsd, It took me like two weeks to get over muv luv and a couple months for umineko, but it's been 3 years since I read rgd and I still feel physical pain listening to some of the tracks
TrI tried to reread it once but when I saw Richard smiling while showing Yuji to Leo, I just couldn't[spoile]

>> No.24976612

>>24963900
It would work best with shrugging Erika.

>> No.24976751

>>24965477
Amazing

>> No.24976798

>>24972356
Wait who was Gaap? I know Virgillia was the old mackerel lady

>> No.24976837

>>24963621
Really nice comic, anon!

>> No.24976874

>>24966475
So did italianon ake the "male erika" sprite himself, of did he crib someone else's sprite for his autism?

>> No.24976911

>>24976798
Gaap was the original design for Beatrice before Yasu met Maria/saw the painting.

>> No.24976923

>>24976798
The first witch of the mansion, the first Beatrice to Yasu.
She isn't really the demon incarnation of someone real. Maybe Nanjo?

>> No.24976940

gapgapgapgapgapgap!

>> No.24976949

>>24976874
It's a real sprite from Last Note of the Golden Witch in Umineko Saku.

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>>24976874
is from umineko saku read it
confirm that Erika is the culprit in game 5th so erikantrice is truth

>> No.24977086

>>24976798
>the old mackerel lady
nigger...

Gaap was just an imaginary friend Yasu made up.
>>24976911
>before Yasu met Maria/saw the painting.
You forgot her Clair form.

>> No.24977097

Gaap being Nanjo used to be a joke, but...

https://occult-world.com/gaap/
>He appears in the form of a doctor when he takes on a human form. He is the most excellent doctor of women, and he makes them burn with love for men.] he is the guide of the foure principall kings, as mightie as Bileth.

This is disturbing to say the least. It also makes a ton of sense because Gaap's power is teleporting things around, while Nanjo fakes autopsies and this allows the "corpses" to disappear and reappear somewhere else (like in EP5).

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-Record of Malice: Ulta version-
This bitch smells. The food feels like sand. Pretty sure they smells like this sand-ass steak. I bet they didn't even wash this steak. Shouldn't they know to wash there meats. They also need to thaw it out for a long time. I wonder why she didn't to it. A bitch of a girl. I guess the sauce it okay. That much is obvious. I'm pretty sire I can cook better then that girl. Can't she not watch cooking channels? If she did, then I bet she could do a lot better. I should give her that push. Hope she'll give it a chance. Still, very good sauce. Still, very good sauce. Ahh, she must be at the door...

>> No.24977228

>>24977155
Based Teppei humiliating a young girl.

>> No.24977995

>>24976336
The deaths are so real, too. Oliver still hurts

>> No.24978741

>>24977995
All the deaths were painful, the most shocking one was Yuji but the worst one for me was Meixue. Seeing Meiju lose his cool for the first time , crying his heart out, while Alan couldn't manage to shed a single tear, even after witnessing his best friend sadistically killing his gf... it was too much

>> No.24981446

>>24977097
I think Gaap being Nanjo is a fair guess before EP7. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryukishi considered it before setting for what we have now.

>> No.24982012

>>24976798
Whag the others have said, but she also was supposed to represent the reason why Sayo always lost or misplaced things. The demon Gaap was fucking with her.

>> No.24982014

>>24978741
>Meixue
it was tough because she was completely unrelated and had a great future waiting for her outside of the underword..

>> No.24982264

GAP GAP GAP GAP GAP!

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Guys no one in this closet!!!

>> No.24982568

Hello I just finished Umineko game 1 and I think the woman with the gun is the bad one, she can shoot people and that's how she did the crimes right?

>> No.24982589

>>24976951
Too big brain for me

>> No.24982679

Satoko simply loves getting her obscene loli arse _______! She just does! She isn't proud of it, but she still loves getting her obscene loli arse _______!

>> No.24982690

>>24982568
To add I think the game is very good, the mysteries were cool and I especially liked seeing Hideyoshi die in the shower with his mean wife, very mean to Shannon. I also liked that the witch can reflect bullets, that is a cool villain. I was sad for Shannon to die first because she was very cute.

I hope game 2 has a cooler hero than Battler though because he did not really do much, Maria and the mother with the gun did a lot more stuff than Battler. I don't really get the ending of the game yet either, is Battler and friends dead or are they in golden land now like Maria says? The notes I don't get, it says they ALL went to hell because Battler did not want to go to the golden land with them?

>> No.24982734

Lots of ESLs lately huh

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>>24982568
Maybe, tell us about your theory around her (Natsuhi). But, please, get out of here!! You'll be spoiled badly which is too bad for a mystery.

>> No.24982921

>>24982679
____ = Cauliflower

>> No.24983039

My dick 07th expands when I see Mion's mions

>> No.24983065

>>24982736
I do not uncover black text or read random posts so I am ok, I will leave but read replies. Maybe these will be spoilers

Natsuhi is the mother with the gun, right? Since people trust her at her own home, I think most of them would just let her meet up with them, and then when they are shot it's too late, and I think maybe even the servants are on her furniture so they do what she says no matter what. Her husband trusted her and maybe also helped at first until he was shot by her, so originally it was Natsuhi and husband and Shannon and Gohda vs Battler parents and Rosa. Then Natsuhi and her husband kill the other parents, and Natsuhi betrays them to shoot her husband and tells Shannon and Gohda to lock the door alone then makes Shannon shoot Gohda then herself, which is why her head is not fully shot like the others, she cannot double shoot herself and they don't move her to see the gun under her to preserve the scene. Now the door is locked and they are all dead inside.

Hideyoshi and Eva, maybe killed by the 2 servants that "found" them since they are furniture and do what they are told. They can even pretend to "unlock" the door and the chain since they do that too. They shoot them in the head, then put the stakes there since it covers the bullet wound anyway. Neither is alerted because 2 servants kill each of them at the same time so they are both shocked and die instantly.

Kanon suicides by Natsuhi command outside and Kumasawa's command is to lie about what she saw. Maybe him and Kumasawa are in that room to burn the master Kinzo the whole time, or maybe he is dead from Natsuhi before when she was the last to see him, and the servants just burn him as the alibi and trick.

Then in Kinzo's room she makes the servants put a letter there since they were closest like she said. She makes them leave with Maria, and the servants all suicide in front of Maria so really believes the witch does that when she sees it because she did not understand Natsuhi secretly commanded the furniture does that beforehand.

Then the witch comes and gets revenge for the family by reflecting the bullets and Natsuhi is killed. Then she lets the kids come with her but Battler says no so they die, but then also it says Battler is missing so I don't know what that part means yet.

>> No.24983101

>>24982690
>I hope game 2 has a cooler hero than Battler though because he did not really do much
He doesn't show up in the second game yet but the next MC is Dark Battler, he's cooler, has a sword and NTRs Battler (in an alternate universe though).

>> No.24983132

>>24982690
Get the hell out of here, these threads are filled with spoilers.

>> No.24983153

>>24982568
Get off the threads until you’ve read it all, this isn’t shit you wanna get spoiled.

>> No.24983206

>>24960227
They are meant to be doing all the extra stuff but i wouldn’t be surprised if they drop it for whatever reason. MG took more time releasing it on steam than r07 took writing the whole fucking thing from scratch

>> No.24983237

>>24982589
dont worry
read here if you dont understand something be free to ask me
i will be happy to explain it to you
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS

>> No.24983382

>>24960671
Alan completely out-cools Leo, but Leo is indeed a madman.

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>>24983382
Still he abandoned us when we needed him the most

>> No.24983466

>>24983456
He had his own battle to fight

>> No.24983497

>>24983456
How the fuck does he manage to look cool in a GREEN jacket? I've never seen any other character pull it off.

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>>24983497
green is the most powerful color

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WHERE THE FUCK IS PHASE 2???

>> No.24983552

>>24982568
>>24983065
Lad trust me, just keep reading. And get out of these threads. I promise you that you will see something you shouldn't

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>phase 2 is out
>pic is the sprite of Mario and him have a pastebin manifesto about earth's dignity

how would you react?

>> No.24983683

>>24983607
Mario's sprite would look like Nanjo, not smug bootleg Oliver.

>> No.24983792

>>24983552
yeah like satoko anon

>> No.24983855

>>24983683
No, not even Nanjo
more like Nanjo's son

>> No.24984058

>>24982679
Actually, lolis hate having things done to their butts.

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I will post this every thread until my soulmate, Rena Ryuugu, is real.
#3

>> No.24984153 [DELETED] 

ok fuck so game 2 is just game 1 again from Shannon and George path???

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>>24984153
Unless you're a troll, don't let this thread ruin your innocence.

>> No.24984197

>>24984153
FUCKER JUST LEAVE THE THREAD AND READ.

>> No.24984212

>>24984153
One ESL autist is enough pls leave

>> No.24984330

>>24984153
Nope
remember if someone do a bad job maybe that isnt his job

>> No.24984344

What is it that attracts so many esol people to post here and not in the rest of 4chan or jp?

>> No.24984365

>>24984344
>not in the rest of 4chan
Go to a DBS thread sometime.

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>>24984067
Keep at it brother, let's see if anything changes.

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>>24984365
I kneel...

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It is done.

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>>24984365
ENTER CHADLER

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>>24984684
blood rushes to my dick at the thought

>> No.24984755

>>24984698
>manga
tell to her to fuck off with that shit and made her read the VN

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>>24959316
>Wang is literally levitating with his ancient Buddhist powers
I knew he was the most based character

>> No.24985002

RGD really does feel like It's one bad anime adaptation away from getting popular

>> No.24985014

>>24984067
Good to see you again anon. Hope it comes true one day.

>> No.24985096

>>24985002
I hope it gets a good adaption rather than a bad one at least. I wanna see all the rage over Gabriel.

>> No.24985124

Post your favorite RGD track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3zkcOkYHjM

>> No.24985147

>>24985124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZneHheXro1A
I would have said axelle ratio but after finishing the vn it became my least favorite one

>> No.24985336

>>24985096
The manga could've been a great adaptation, but it's more like a different retelling of the story. It cuts a lot of important parts and replaces them with different stuff, it's kinda weird. L and A don't even fight at the end of the first arc and the entire Sòy war is cut.

I do like the two prequel spin off manga, though. One is about Rose and the other about Wayne.

>> No.24985394

I like how Meijiu is never one of the main characters in any of the seasons, but remains a consistently great secondary character that develops on his own. Kinda like Mion in Higurashi, who never gets her own arc but is always a solid character. Both are my favorite characters in each series.

>> No.24985424

>>24985394
I'll never forgive him for killing ange, should have helped Richard kill Gab instead of doing his shady chinks tricks

>> No.24985437

>>24983382
Alan is the true Battler expy. Butler is more like if Battler grew up to become like Rudolf.

>> No.24985464

>>24985437
Butler get bullied by Gabriel for one year, pretty consistent with his character imo

>> No.24985499

>>24985424
Battler deserves it for his corruption and cowardice. He could've prevented the whole thing if he reported Gabriel to his superiors, but he didn't want Gabriel to leak the evidence and send him to jail. At the end he got angeburger and a prison sentence anyway.

>> No.24985555

Is it possible Ciconia takes place after RGD? The nuclear bomb was never tested on Japan, which would make the nations of the world more reckless with nuclear weaponry and go wild with them in WW3.

>> No.24985598

>>24985499
He deserved it, but his sister had nothing to do with it, Meiju did the exact same thing Gabriel did with Meixue. He also brainwashed Rose and tried to kill her earlier in the story, and made dozens of shady shits over the course of the vn. He has a good facade and seems genuinely friendly but he's a sneaky bastard at heart (like most RGD characters really). I also like him but don't compare him to Mion who's the purest girl ever and also my wife

>> No.24985637

>>24985555
It's definitely referenced way more than you'd expect. Miyao shits all over Primavera's ideals in the first 15 minutes and Kizuna was predicted by Zel 7 years earlier.

>> No.24985747

>>24985555
Japanese anime never became a thing in the RGD world (truly the darkest timeline, probably no weird ass Jap commercials either). Ciconia has literal otakus and shonen manga like Jojo's Bizarre Barbecue, so it's probably based on the real world like the previous WTC.

>> No.24985760

>>24985555
WW3 is a hoax, the aliens came and put everyone into jars.

>> No.24985816

Ryukishi sure is a Dalí fanboy

>> No.24985904

>>24985760
What would happen if Naima's brain in a jar was connected to a matrix that makes her experience being assfucked in front of her friends 24/7 for the next 3000 years?

>> No.24985969

Looks like Narnith deleted all his videos.

>> No.24985975

>>24985816
I wonder why there are so many paintings references in Ciconia.

>> No.24985980

>>24985904
>ywn get friendzoned by Gunhild and take revenge by cutting off her brain and setting up a machine that will make her experience the most hellish dentist visit on a loop until the heat death of the universe
Why live?

>> No.24986125

>>24985969
I saw it coming. What a shame, I really liked his analysis videos and now he went full pixiv artist nuking his content. But hey, whatever helps him move on from that bad state of mind and the drug stuff. Hopefully "he" hasn't been influenced by SJWs to erase everything about his previous life. They prey on people like him to convert them to their miserable cult, so I really hope he's one of the few trannomachines that avoids that SJW crap and doesn't become a despicable individual.

>> No.24986142

>>24986125
Also keep your dick, for god's sake. Everyone is a bit gay inside and traps can be cute. Nobody likes a mutilated monstrosity, not a single person on Earth.

>> No.24986157

>>24986125
I haven't really been following him since he finished umineko, so for me it was quite a surprise.

>> No.24986252

>>24985980
The human condition of a caramelldansen slut! She's so smug, and yet she feels pain like any other human! Pathetic! I can feel the same things she does! It's like I'm invading her privacy just by being part of the same species!

>> No.24986321

>>24986142
same, people genuinely interested in dating girls (male), probably prefer them with a feminine dick. Gender, in so far as it isn't biological, is just an aesthetic. Either you're cute and have a good personality or not, and cutting off your dick does absolutely nothing.

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>Rika lives for 100 years and complains about fate being inescapable
>Keiichi asks for a different board game
>WOAH FATE CAN CHANGE
wtf Rika.

>> No.24986457

>>24986334
In 100 years she probably fucked the whole of hinamiza

>> No.24986466

>>24986334
She's a female child, the stupidest kind of human being. Of course she wouldn't catch onto obvious stuff no matter how many centuries passed.

>> No.24986557

Ushiromiya Ange

Ushiromeeya Enje

Humiliatiya Angste

Humanconditia Arse

>> No.24986576

I liked ange more when she was a pile of meat

>> No.24986591

Batallador Blanco

George Gordo

Angelica Humillada

Hsiao-Lan chinita

>> No.24986592

Alchemist fucked up by not having a CG of Battler doing a cool pose with the golden sword during the end of episode 5

>> No.24986605

>>24986576
She is always a pile of meat, since she's human, that's why witches look down on her.

>> No.24986618

>>24986592
>no CG of Erika and Beatrice sparring with swords in EP8

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>> No.24986644

>>24986618
At least they did the sickest fucking payoff justice (The Ushiromiya Eagle taking form and eating Bern's whale)

>> No.24986676

>>24986591
How old even was that corona-riddled commie chink? She was so cute. I suppose she's meant to be a preteen in Season 2 and like 13/14 in the bell tower scene. Pretty sneaky of Meijiu to involve a sickly young girl into this shady stuff.

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>>24986592
If you're gonna talk about CG, I almost got turned off on Umineko pretty early on when I got to the first twilight and the game showed pretty much nothing, which was extremely disappointing because of course you can't "watch" the murders happen or it ruins the mystery. It got a little better with some later CG, but oh boy did that first twilight feel like a let down given all the build up and how ready I was for shit to go down. Comparing it to the badass shit the manga shows off for the first twilight of game 1 just makes the VN look sad.

>> No.24986747

>>24986676
She's athletic as fuck and probably trained to be an unassuming cold blooded drink-poisoning bitch. She just has fucked up vocal cords, which means you'll barely hear a hoarse moan of pain if she's kidnapped by mafia and her chink anus gets violently ripped apart. And I'm pretty sure nobody messes with her because everyone knows she's under Meijiu's protection.

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Who wore it best?

>> No.24986784

>>24986676
tfw Yuri goes from loving kids to trying to murder a young girl by throwing her off a bell tower

>> No.24986791

>>24986457
>>24986466
But if she knew she could reset from 0, why didn't she just do insane fucking things to try and find the culprit. She had so much time to try and fail.

>> No.24986811

>>24986774
Left feels like the real Rosa holding a gun. Right feels like we are suddenly looking at a static picture of an action frozen in gime instead of the usual sprite of Rosa.

That's why CGs don't fit these novels.

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>> No.24986902

>>24986791
Because she feels guilty. She's resetting, but everyone else is still fucked. And every time she tries and fails, she's leaving ruined worlds behind where her friends die or live miserable lives. Even the good ending is just Rika lying to herself and deciding to treat parallel dimensions as fake/dreams, even though they are just as real as her current world. She can't afford to just kill random people or cause havoc, that's why she just spends time with her friends until the mysterious culprit resets her. She has no idea what awaits everyone after she's dead, so as long as nobody goes crazy she figures her death is a mere tragedy they'll just get over and go on with their lives.

>> No.24986904

>>24986811
The fuck are you even saying?

>> No.24986944

>>24986904
CGs take me out of the story unless the VN is written with them in mind. My mind goes "oh, a CG", while a sprite of Rosa with the gun would just feel natural once I'm immersed in the reading session and not remind me of the fact that I'm reading a VN.

>> No.24986959

>>24986944
the term you are searching for is "brainlet".

>> No.24986970

>>24986944
They also appear at the most epic moments, slightly killing my immersion when I need it most.

>> No.24987020

>>24986944
>that ridiculous over the top Maria CG that goes against her intended characterization and gives people an unintended wrong impression of her character
>that shitty poorly drawn CG of Tomitake being pinned down where Takano looks like a tranny
>that awful CG of cross-eyed Battler pointing angrily at Beato, making their discussions come off as awkward because that ugly shit pops up covering part of the screen while the normal sprites can still be seen underneath

>> No.24987260

>>24987020
cherry picking

>> No.24987280

>>24987020
idk I see Maria as looking like that CG all the time. Just muttering under her breath like the little freak she is. No wonder daddy left Rosa.

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>>24987020
Do agree with the first, I hate those maria cgs. Its the same over-the-top LOOK AT HOW CREEPY THIS IS shit they pulled with Higurashi. Also I don't see why you picked that cg to pick at instead of this abomination.
Not sure what you're even talking about with the third tho. He's not cross-eyed at all, and the sprites don't show when the cg is up. That sounds like a bug to me.

>> No.24987363

With the inevitable anime adaptation of Ciconia, what seiyuus do you want for Miyao and others?

>> No.24987456

>>24987363
We are never getting an anime. And it would be really off putting to hear them all speak Japanese. Kizuna works better as something you imagine while reading the text. The Italians speaking Japanese in Alchemist Umineko were already pushing it.

>> No.24987471

>>24986970
>Getting a cool visual during an epic moment is bad and immersion breaking

>> No.24987487

>>24987456
What if they actually hire foreign VA's and have Japanese subtitles?

>> No.24987503

>>24987363
If they won't adapt Umineko, why would they adapt Ciconia?

>> No.24987524

>>24987487
Foreign VAs are all SJWs with pronouns on their twitter bio. It would also be a huge money sink and hurt the animation quality.

>> No.24987531

>>24987471
That anon has a disability, don't mock their inability to focus and concentrate if they don't put 100% of their being into reading the words on screen. It sucks, I know someone with the disability who only watches dubbed anime because if it's subbed he has to pause it to read the screen each new line of dialogue, since "the sound and visuals is distracting".

>> No.24987544

>>24987524
>Foreign VAs are all SJWs
damn, they'd be a proper fit for everything R07 has written then...

>> No.24987595

>>24987363
Not a single one of these novels works as an anime. They rely too much on internal thoughts, narration and slow emotional buildup. Even RGD would be fucking gutted as an anime.

>> No.24987604

>>24987524
I was talking more as a hypothetical concept rather than an actual possibility. It just seems like the sort of weird media-playing hijinks he'd go for.

>> No.24987625

>>24987595
Just use the manga as a storyboard and you'd already get something several times better than what we got before.

>> No.24987668

>>24987363
Anime adaptations of VNs are always cancer. They shouldn't exist. Why not make something new instead, like a side story or something that takes advantage of the medium in a way that the VN can't? Transplanting a story from VN to anime is a waste of time, it always ends up being vastly inferior.

>> No.24987863

>>24987595
>>24987668
I want to see a RGD anime just for the animated fight scenes, don't care about the rest

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>>24985969
mfw it happens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkX2NAKFM5Q
His Umineko walkthrough was pure gold, so I ask: if by any chance some of you glorious autists keep an archive, please, share the link.

>> No.24987892

>>24987668
idk the Fate adaptations by Ufotable are pretty kino even if they are different. There's not much that matches the fight scenes Ufotable makes for Fate.

>> No.24987947

>>24986702
I kinda hate this one because it basically spoiled me on part of the culprit. Why else would this specific death have a CG?

>> No.24988022

>>24987363
Here's some names I pulled out of my ass while looking through a couple works for familiar voices:
Yuu Kobayashi for Miyaoi/Meow
Yukino Satsuki for Chloe
Satou Rina for Gunhild
Shinichiro Miki for Jayden
Minami Omi or Hanazawa Kana for Koshka
Kitamura Eri for Lilja

>>24987595
They could work as long as they have a budget that doesn't force them to cram and skip (also need the right people working on it). All the problems you raised are things that anime have handled before just fine--though few and far between. Aku no Hana is a great example of how an anime could pull off Higurashi's atmosphere. Umineko would be the hardest to adapt because there's just no much dumping and long spiels of dialogue. Ciconia would be easy as shit in comparison to adapt just going off the first Phase.

>>24987668
There are several anime adaptions of vns that are great or at the least good. It all just depends on the people working on it. F/SN, Clannad, Steins;Gate, Ef, Grisaia no Kajitsu, Little Busters, Shuffle, Amagami, etc...

>> No.24988028

>>24987947
I find that a weird stretch. As a first time player I thought it was just kind of lazy, but existed to focus on George's feelings in the moment. You saw that CG and it lead you to instantly suspect the culprit? How long did it take your megamind to solve the VN?

My "this is kind of blatant" moment came when Kanon just magically vanished and never showed up again, and then I fucking knew that was it when in another game it happened again, the fucker doesn't leave a body behind. Of course it took more to piece the rest together, but I was thinking Kanon was highly suspicious in the first game just as the person who was most blatantly unaccounted for at the time when Beatrice shows up.

>> No.24988046

>>24988022
>Satou Rina for Gunhild
Funny, I always had her voice in my mind when I read Gunhilds lines.

>> No.24988061

>>24988022
Grisaia had a good adaptation of Angelic Howl, with a shell around it to justify animating Angelic Howl. The Grisaia sequel VNs had really good animated versions though.

>> No.24988391

>>24988028
It wasn't so much of being astute, honestly. I just tricked my brain real hard into thinking that was blatant and then things started making a lot of sense as of Episode 2.

>> No.24988557

Phase 2 needs an openly racist character who calls Lingji out on being a disgusting subhuman chink. Humiliating! Lewd!

>> No.24988614

>>24988557
As a kid I had a crush on Chihiro from Spirited Away because, even though she was such a cute loli, the spirits at the bathhouse genuinely considered her ugly and disgusting for the mere fact that she was human. I bet she never expected anyone to find her so unpleasant, not in a million years!

>> No.24988680

Jigoku Shoujo, Baccano and Dennou Coil are the best options if you are looking forward to a Higanbana, RGD or Ciconia anime. The real thing isn't happening.

>> No.24988715

>>24988614
Actually young girls are insecure af and always think the worst about themselves.

>> No.24988747

Why a Ciconia anime would be great:
1. Walls of Peace scenes would be like 2 minutes long
2. The fight scenes wouldn't be filled with out of place mismatched gifs of 3D weapons

thanks for comin' folks

>> No.24988832

>>24988747
An anime would devolve into Naima cleaning windows with her naked walls of peace.

>> No.24988912

>>24988832
What were they even thinking with that scene? You can't possibly clean windows using the dirtiest place in a human girl's body: her arse. It's a fruitless effort.

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>>24962568
Looks cool and stylish compared to this

>> No.24990495

>>24988747
>/pol/ the game into an anime
enjoy all tumbrl and reddit revolt
>muh pepe the frog
>muh war guns good
>muh border good

>> No.24990912

>>24988022
>Yuu Kobayashi for Miyao
Kanon?

>> No.24991055

>>24990912
You know, I completely forgot that she voiced Kanon. Going through her roles, she also voiced Satoshi in Higurashi. Coincidentally she voiced Mariya in MariaHolic, and Ruka in Steins;gate, both characters that also blur the genders. Jesus fuck, what's with this pattern? I was just thinking of her role in Gintama, I love her for that, and thought her voice might fit Miyao. I guess that type of character just suits her.

>> No.24991294

>>24985124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh3IoJhuQFs
also i couldn't find your track in my OST files, weird.

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>>24987887
Good news, I found some. Not much, but some. Seems I saved a few at some point because I knew I'd be without WiFi for a while.

>> No.24991606

i really like these rokuten alice tracks

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>>24991448
Oyashiro-sama bless you! I found his reactions most enjoyable in EP 1, 3, 4 and 8, so your stash cover at least half. Download them on mega or make a torrent. In return I load my entire Umineko images folder.

>> No.24991684

>>24991622
Once again habitual saving and archiving proves best in the long run. This is pretty similar to what happened wit Goldsmith a few years back. Hopefully I'm not the only one saving things and some other vids will turn up somewhere or other.

>> No.24991803

>>24991448
>>24991622
>>24991684
https://mega.nz/folder/lg9EgaTZ#WlrC919Tsp9EKnXDanD4aw
Here you go.

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>>24991803
Here. I drop some other stuff later.
https://mega.nz/folder/YuxlSQiZ#pV6OjDCYQ617xMscO_PFeg

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>>24992052
Nice. I recognize some of my works in there as well.

>> No.24992179

>>24986334
Once you stop trying even things that can change easily begin to look immovable - plenty of people could get a gf if they actually tried, but it's easier to treat it as an impossible goal and stop struggling. Now think about it means that rika has been going at this for 100 years and you'll get a slight idea of just how fucked up her psyche is when she can't even conceive of asking to play a different board game.

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>>24991055
Satoshi confirmed for cute tomboy, read my Satoshion manifesto.
>>24988028
Please don't call Kanon a fucker just because he has power fantasies about killing his half-sister-aunt-foster mom. He is very cute.

>> No.24992232

>>24987544
if you lurk these threads without periodically losing your marbles and trying to get someone to torch 4chan HQ, chances are you aren't an SJW, you just happen to align with them politically on a few things.

>> No.24992316
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(((they)))

>> No.24992363

>>24992316
When (((they))) Cry

>> No.24992391

>>24987604
You should watch the anime Great Pretender that that uses VA from other countries to voice characters who speak a language other than Japanese. It works pretty well.

>> No.24992438

>>24992363
When (((they))) Cry, I raugh.
- RyuKKKishi

>> No.24992477

>>24992438
laughed louder than I should have at that

>> No.24992846
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24992846

>Sayo was born female
>ironic Erikanon
>unironic Erikanon
>people still genuinely trying to reason with Erikanon
>skipped most of ep8 to reach the ending selections
>stopped mid ep6, wont read 7 and 8--because Sayo's backstory is too dramatic
>Ciconia is propaganda
>the manga isnt canon
>loses their shit when someone uses voices or ps3 sprites
>magic isnt real, everything is a metaphor
>reading Umineko first
>higurashi is just a book within WTC
>makes og content--but with pachinko sprites
>having a solution ruins the message
>equates ep1-4 to shit that Sayo would actually do
>humiliation anon
>higurashi is filled with lefty overtones and some communism
>discord trannies
>ikuko is yasu
>higurashi is a mystery
>higurashi is scifi
>it's not confirmed that Sayo doesn't have a dick
>official =/= right
>umineko follows van dine

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>>24992846
>yasu is female
yes since Kinzo is afraid of commit the same sin again and male cant get pregnat
>people arguing with erikanon
WHAT A FUCK YOU READ IN UMINEKO?
BATTLER WHO IGNORE BEATRICE?
FUCK OFF
>ciconia is propaganda
cicoania is /pol/ guns,army borders are good
trans have always mental illness genocider
>higurashi is a mistery
yes since the official solution is wrong
ryukishi made umineko to made us solve higurashi
>ikuko is yasu
why ikuko know everything?
>muh magic
magic did not exist fuck off
>official=/=rigth
why r07 put ange story is official isequal to rigth?
>umineko follow van dine
every rules is valid in umineko

fuck off goat
why you call autist people who actually read umineko?

>> No.24993311

>>24987020
The Shion CG completely ruined the phone call scene for me. The ones in Onikakushi actually worked, though.

>> No.24993671

>>24985124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMZTQhKAftU
The wandering kino

>> No.24994583

>>24976951
Is umineko saku even translated?

>> No.24994852

>>24994583
Yes. Or at least, Last Note is.
https://mega.nz/folder/llsCmAiA#R2wk91GvP4gPq92BmneaBA
You can download the game here. can't remember if the TL is prepatched but if not you can find it here
https://github.com/ooa113y/umineko-saku
Or you can just watch it on youtube at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoIEID02sxI

>> No.24995031
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>>24994583
yes and is called Erikantrice manifesto the VN

>> No.24995556

>>24993671
It's almost impossible to pick a favorite, but this one is a strong contender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY0RnBdsdiA

>> No.24995983

i wonder if ciconia will come together properly in the coming years.

>> No.24996135

>>24995983
I really don't doubt R07 at this point. With Higu, Umi, and RGD he has proven himself at delivering quality work. Phase 1 was great.

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>>24992438
>>24992363
>>24992316
Holy Shit!

>> No.24996256

>>24996223
>that tip where Rena "sees" a literal ayy lmao in the middle of the street
It's both hilarious and disturbing.

>> No.24996350

>>24996135
i have the same opinion but ciconia just didn't fully convince me yet. it could though.
the characters just seem different.

>> No.24996377

>>24996350
I think it's just because they had to spend so much of phase 1 on worldbuilding that they didn't have time to go as deep into the characters as he usually would. Later Phases should hopefully remedy that.

>> No.24996392

>>24996350
Well it's only Phase 1, if we looked at Higu or Umi Chapter 1 in a vacuum I wouldn't care for most of the character either.

>> No.24996617

>>24996392
Phase 1 is supposed to be equivalent to two Higurashi/Umineko arcs. You could also compare it to RGD season 1, which did a good job introducing everything but wasn't that great by itself.

>> No.24996708

Mariaは

She just kindaは

>> No.24997250

how hard is higu to read in nip for a learner?

>> No.24997364

>>24997250
Just do it. You'll have to stop every few lines to look something up (don't settle for getting the gist of it, don't move on until you fully understand the sentence and why it's written that way), but eventually you'll come across less and less things you don't know, making it much faster. Thar's how you improve in any language. You might think looking a word or a kanji up is a waste of time because you'll forget, but the brain is smart. Once you come across the same word twice, it'll register it as important information and you'll never forget it. Especially if it's in the context of reading something you are genuinely interested in.

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>>24944260
Happy birthday Rena, in japan.

>> No.24997719

>>24997622
Rena should be legally required to spend all day in her birthday suit.

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>>24997622

>> No.24998182

>>24997622
Rena the molester.

>> No.24998262

>>24997622
w-shere is Rena putting her hand?

>> No.24999568

Rika looks nothing like a penguin, but something about her reminds me of one. Same with Naima and potatoes.

>> No.24999666
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24999666

I just finished Rose Guns Days and anon I have to say it was quite the ride, I kept pushing the game back because it wasn't a WTC game, but I know see my mistake, I had an amazing experience while playing it, the actions scenes were particulary top notch for the most part and I took a liking to the characters.
Also, I noticed that it shared some themes with Ciconia, pretty interesting stuff.

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>>24999666
I'm really glad that RGD is starting to get more popular

>> No.25000558

>>24999666
the action minigame was actually a nice touch, mainly because of the music i guess. it helps in engaging the reader a bit more. and it's not really annoying.

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The last tweet of 07th Expansion is quite strange. It's one of the first tweet of keropoyo. https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1287659062700589057?s=20
>[Keropoyo] "I want to go into the center of the wives and move their heads in 4 directions in sequence!"
> Keropoyo's personality is optimized according to the personality of the user.

>> No.25000744

>>24996377
If he didnt have the time, maybe he should have cut down on the walls of peace shit. Joking aside, the writing--the prose was just so poor. It was a challenge to get through because I felt as though I was forcing myself to finish it. Some of the data fragments were at least enjoyable. I want to believe it was just that he needed to get world building out of the way, that the following phases will be great and redeem it, but the phase was, at best, mediocre. There's just so much wrong with it that cant be attributed to that.

>>24996392
I, personally at least, cared for the characters from the very first chapter/episode of higu/umi. They were so well done that they could even work as standalone title with no following entries. Though I obviously didn't care for them as much as I do bow with the whole series in mind, I cared about them for what they were within the confines of that first entry, something I can't say for Ciconia.

>>24996617
>equivalent to two
?????
Just because there will only be 4 phases instead of 8 doesnt mean they are equal to two.

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25000804

supreme gentleman

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>>25000804
Fat !

>> No.25000874

>>25000744
That's your opinion, dude. I thought it was pretty good, nowhere near mediocre. Each person is bothered by different thing. To me, the prose wasn't a problem and it's not something I value that much in the first place. To each their own.

This reminds me of that one cripplingly depressed discord SJW asshole who considers all of Ryu's works little more than irredeemable trash because the prose isn't top notch flowery shit. I'm glad my priorities are different and these novels are right up my alley.

>> No.25000918

>>25000733
Google translate is shit.
"I want to get in the middle of the wifes and kunka kunka (sniff) the hair on their heads one at a time in order!

>> No.25001113

>>24944260
Where did you find this art? Did you save it from Twitter oblivion?

>> No.25001152

>>25000733
Is Miyao's keropoyo an exception? I believe he's an agent of Vier who has been given too many permissions to fuck with Miyao's brain. Kinda like letting a program take over your phone.

>> No.25001203

Battler corrupto

George celibe involuntario

Jessica concha peluda

Maria obscena a los ojos

>> No.25001220

>>25000874
Of course it's my opinion, just like you have yours. That doesn't devalue what each of us thinks in any way.

I don't expect top notch prose or flowery writing, I just want something that pulls me in and isn't headache inducing, which Ciconia couldn't manage--for me at least. It's not that my priorities are different, it's just that enjoyable reading is equally as important as enjoyable characters and an enjoyable story. It's 3 neccessary pillars, and when one is lacking, the whole thing collapses. Please don't compare me to some random ass discord sjw with a stick up their ass. Hating everything must be suffering, then again, that crowd tends to thrive on being angry at everything under the sun.

>>25001152
Does KeroP change when personalities switch? Or is he modeled after the dominant personality? If it's the latter, then is Miyao/Meow a fake while blue boi or other is the main personality?

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>>25001203
Erika muy bueno

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>>25001203
>>25001269
la violador intelectual

>> No.25001370

>>25001203
What did Kinzo mean by obscene to the eye? Is Maria such an autistic embarrassment to the family that Kinzo finds it hard to observe her behavior without cringing?

>> No.25001378

>>25001370
>molest me not
>I'll crucify the imbecile
>the whispers of the green fairy no longer reach me
>Oh bidoreecheey
It's just Kinzo being Kinzo.

>> No.25001407

>>25001370
I read it in JP, and it just translates to "difficult to look at".

>> No.25001435

>>25001407
desu, Maria is basically a 9 year old miniature version of Kinzo, so I expected there to be more of a connection between them.

>> No.25001519

>>25001435
Kinzo was always a bit crazy, but Maria would grow up to become a "high functioning autist". Except she'd hold a massive grudge against Rosa and never get over it because her memory is so good and her sense of justice is so overwhelming. And depending on how much Rosa fucks her up, she might end up as the next Chris Chan.

>> No.25001574

>>25000502
Yeah I'm starting to see more talk about it, it does deserve it.
>>25000558
Its increible that something that simple can make the action scenes feel so dynamic.

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>>25000804
nope the real culprit of umineko
Kill everyone on rokkenjima to marry his waifu
chad like hid granfather

>> No.25001808

>>25000733
is it strange to want to fuck the ara aras?

>> No.25001822

>>25000744
>Just because there will only be 4 phases instead of 8 doesnt mean they are equal to two.
Has he actually said that or does he just consider the question and answer arcs to be two separate products like with Umineko?

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>>25001203

>> No.25001861

Eva's sin is lust. It means obsessing over an object of desire to the point of becoming irrational in your life decisions. In her case, she's obsessed with obtaining the headship, more for the sake of it than for any practical reason or monetary gain. This lead to her pushing her dreams onto George, who became an incel with poor social skills.

Hideyoshi's sin is gluttony. This is represented by his fat figure and his food company. Gluttony doesn't just mean eating too much, but rather over-indulging on a good thing, way more than necessary, to the point it becomes detrimental to one's well being. Hideyoshi is trying to extort money from the main family because he wanted to expand his business and sold his stock to the wrong people. He already had a successful company, but he wanted more and more success, which ruined everything.

Rudolf's sin is sloth. This is represented by his laid back demeanor and his fight with Belphegor in EP3. He's a guy who would rather do shady stuff, scam people and move outside the law than put honest work and effort into his business. He's a crook. It's the definition of laziness. And this sin is what fucks over his company when his schemes and dirty practices catch up with him. Hell, this is also the reason he did that with the babies, too lazy to man up and deal with two households. He'd rather pull some strings and clean his hands off the whole mess.

Kyrie's sin is envy, obviously. This is made clear in the story, and it's also the reason she fucks over her sister. She was envious of her freedom and decided to steal it away from her.

Rosa's sin is pride. She has anger issues and sleeps around with men, but the root cause of her problems is her pride. She is ashamed of Maria's weirdness and tries to beat the aspergers out of her. She's too prideful to admit Maria needs special treatment, because it would mean she's somehow "defective". So instead of hiring a babysitter, arranging for a special needs teacher or visiting a psychologist, she ignores the problem and beats the shit out of her hoping it will fix her childish behavior. This is why she dies inside every time someone even remotely implies Maria isn't acting like her age. She's too prideful.

>> No.25001873

>>25001834
Benita bruja dorada

>> No.25001901

>>25001861
Rudolf is willing to kill his whole family if it means he gets 2 billion yen and gets to spend the rest of his life relaxing in the Bahamas. Lazy bastard.

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>>25001834
this one looks actually decent.
is it possible to get kinzo looking like a cuban dictator ?

>> No.25001954

>tfw OG Beatrice was a literal nazi

>> No.25002017

>>25001954
>nazis are the one bringing the gold to rokkenjima and making kinzo go crazy with beatrice, kickstarting the plot
why am I not surprised

>> No.25002169

>>25001954
a fascist fucking faggot
she is italian not german cuck

>> No.25002199

>>25002169
found the nazi in this thread

>> No.25002261

>>25002199
found the faggot

>> No.25002438

>>24976798
Nanjo. Gaaps specialty is making corpses disappear, which is also Nanjo's who as the doctor can falsely diagnose deaths. Nanjo had a obvious reason to be interested in Yasu. Nanjo is also the source of all mystery elements in Umineko, we know in his talks with Erika that he is well-versed in the genre so he raised Yasu with mystery novels and taugth her all the sleight of hand tricks that she would not have all learned by herself.

>> No.25002860

>>25001203
Yasu cuarenta tre parcento

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>>25001203
Kanon Tomboyo

>> No.25003495

eva blyat

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>>25001203
peleador blanco

>> No.25004277

>>25001861
Rosa is doing the right thing. A kid like Maria can easily end up like chris chan if she's not dragged back to reality.

>> No.25005956

>>25001861
Kurausu is the best siburingu.

>> No.25005957

>>24994852
Thanks bro, only saw this now. downloading asap

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Kanon and George Culprit Anon I have applied some of your teachings to Ranma 1/2 what do you think

>> No.25007232

If Xiaolan is so cute, how come she's got a stupid loli arse?

>> No.25007247

>>24986676
She's 13.

>> No.25007343

>>24986702
The manga version of the storehouse scene is fucking gnarly. I remember staring at Rudolf and Kyrie's faces (or lack of faces) for like a whole minute in shock.

>> No.25008023

Was there anything in the question arcs that ever pointed to personality death existing?

>> No.25008378

>>25008023
In EP3 Battler proposed the idea that another personality of Jessica killed Nanjo, so the idea was put on the table.

>> No.25008456

>>24986334
One of my main problems with Higurashi was how retarded Rika acted. She hadn't even scratched the surface of what anyone with a twelfth of a brain would attempt with infinite resets before falling into despair, which seemed counter to how intelligently she was otherwise portrayed

>> No.25008495

>>25008456
The point is that Rika isn't really intelligent. She's a kid with a lot of experience. She's gained knowledge through seeing people do many different things. It hasn't necessarily improved her ability to think outside the box.

>> No.25008572

>>25008495
You can only go so far with the "hurr she's just a kid" argument. She held mature conversations about personal motivations with Irie, Hanyuu, Tomitake, etc. I'd also argue that her critical thinking ability in general is several tiers above a regular person's thanks to the club activities, so you can't get away with the excuse that she just doesn't have an affinity for this particular kind of thing either.

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So let me get this straight:
In ep 3 why would virgilia help battler at all with all that cat box explanation if she, at the end, wasn't on his side after all?? makes no fucking sense really. Was that "tip" legit or what? I'm rereading it after many years and wanted to make sense of that

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>>25006961
funny thing i made a ranma meme some time ago
for the logic error

>> No.25010700

>>25010665
Anon what a fuck is Beatrice's goal?
teach Battler until he understand

Virgilia goal is make Battler doubt about the magic he see

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Finally started Ciconia after postponing it for so long, just finished the whole Jayden/Meow date and wtf am I reading.
Did R07 really compared homosexuality with incest? and with wanting to fuck inanimate objects? couldn't stop laughing the whole sequence but it was handled pretty badly.
Clearly he still have his sin of repeating everything ad nauseam, but the whole scene was pretty awkward.
The whole point of the scene was to show that every culture have their own opinions and values, but every characters still shared the same one on homosexuality?
the whole thing it was trying to say could have been summed up in 5 minutes without it going completely over the place and it really felt like ryukishi didn't have the guts to show characters with conflicting opinions on the matter

>> No.25010774

>>25010665
I always thought of it like a balance. You have to help him just enough so that he has a drive since the game board falls apart if he gives up, but you can't help him too much either since he'd just solve it and everything would end. You can apply this to how Lambda and Bern play into the story as well. They want it to go on for their own entertainment, so they hinder and help when it suits their interest.

>> No.25010803

>>25010729
its almost like r07 is talking through the characters instead of having the actual characters speak

>> No.25010835

>>25010665
Well Virgilia was created for the purpose of helping the reader to understand how to read the vn because nobody at the time of chapter 2's release understood that the narrator was unreliable
It's also her purpose in game because Beatrice genuinely want battler to solve the mysteries but he's a fucking dumbfuck

>> No.25010840

>>25010729
>Did R07 really compared homosexuality with incest? and with wanting to fuck inanimate objects?
That's the Ryukishi that I know and love.
>Clearly he still have his sin of repeating everything ad nauseam, but the whole scene was pretty awkward.
When Phase 2,3 and 4 are out people will be saying "wow that was a tip for the mystery but nobody even noticed even if he keeps repeating it many times" like always.

>> No.25010922

>>25010835
>>25010774
>>25010700

I mean I guess that makes sense, just wanted to see it from a POV of someone who just finished that ep and didnt know whats next. Thanks niggas

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>>25006961
Anon where is love in it?

WHY DUNNIT
why they must do that?

>> No.25010980

>>25010840
>"wow that was a tip for the mystery but nobody even noticed even if he keeps repeating it many times" like always.
I don't know, generally the really relevant tips are the most subtle ones, like Shannon spelling out her promise at the beginning of episode 3
The shits repeated over and over might have some new meanings when you reread it after finishing the vn, but I don't think they've ever been that relevant

>> No.25011016

>>25001822
Nobody really knows, there was an interview and the answer was vague.
https://0707toshokan.wordpress.com/2019/10/13/famitsu-special-interview/

>Interviewer: "What will be the development after the release of Phase 1?"

>"Ryukishi: There will be 4 Phases in total, and right now I am slowly starting to build the plot of Phase 2. The goal is to release it somewhere around May. However, it’s just the goal, so I hope you will be patient!.."

This, nor none of his twitter posts give a definitive answer, they just stay that there's going to be 4 phases.
Will WTC5 have 4 phases and WTC6 will follow just like the previous entries?
Or does he mean that Ciconia as a whole will just be 4 phases, ditching the question/answer arc format?

>> No.25011218

>>25010840
Maybe there's a special reason for Jayden to want Miyao to be female that doesn't have to do with sex?

>> No.25012218
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25012218

So wtf happened with Ciconia's ost? did ryukishi run out of money on the 3d animations and couldn't afford a decent soundtrack?
only a fourth of the 34 tracks are original, the others are either reused from Haworthia or are fucking free of use tracks.
But what's even worse is that the free to use tracks are better than the original ones, biggest disappointment I have with the vn

>> No.25012262

>>25012218
A lot of the royalty free music was so good that I wouldn't have known the difference. If shit werks it werks.

>> No.25012393

>>25012218
All the good songs in Higurashi and Umineko were made by like three people. I imagine the schedules just didn't work out since dai only made a handful of tracks and zts contributed nothing

>> No.25012592

>>25012218
at least the OP was nice

>> No.25012965 [SPOILER] 
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25012965

Higu ch2 spoiler
K1's wrong decision making specialty makes me feel awful. I don't want to see Mion getting hurt FUCK

>> No.25012982

>>25012965
But now you get to see peak power hoe Shion.

>> No.25013083

>>25012965
let's not forget Rena encouraged him to think Shion was Mion

>> No.25013312

>>25008456
yeah, Rika is compelled to act like the piece she is (a little girl) and too generally follow the flow of destiny, with Hanyuu doing everything to support that sort of toxic behaviour. In the end it still does not make sense, especially with Satokos parents dying which should be hilariously easy to prevent, to the point that it does not even really make sense how it happened in the first place.

On a meta-level it must be impossible to succeed unless everyone isn working together with certainty thats the law of the gameboard (Lambda is involved after all), so Rika can't be successful alone, but there is no organic reason.

>> No.25013325

>>25012218
Many of the 3d animations are free of use as well. Obviously either they are running out of money or they are losing their members.

>> No.25013844

Meakashi is the worst arc by far. Literally a twist for the sake of a twist, while also going absurd lengths to justify it . Also damages the characters of both sisters, but that's just my opinion.

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The fact that Kei-chan has an ass is simply mindblowing.

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>>25013083
You don't mean to say that she's directly at fault, don't you? It looks nothing more than a whim of the many unfortunate circumstances
It's my belief on main theme, that close to entirety — majority of the cast is long far from evil, even Shion despite her harsh attitude towards her sister. Now it's my first time reading so it might be better for me to withhold from further discussion. Hopefully, the story will try to do it's best to spare me from any misery

>> No.25014207

>>25010971
Hiding from the CCP

>> No.25014542

>>25014083
The thing is that Rena was right. At that point Keiichi had only met Mion pretending to be Shion. The first time that Keiichi actually meets Shion is directly before she pranks him and Mion.

>> No.25014670

>>25010729
>love is love taken to absurd extremes in the most casual fashion
Ryukishi is having a giggle for sure

>> No.25014872

>>25010665
Virgillia's appeareance isTohya's fantasy (Kumasawa is flirting). Her name was Maria's idea. She could represent Tohya's subconsious trying to remember Beatrice.

>> No.25015340

>>25010835
> nobody at the time of chapter 2's release understood that the narrator was unreliable
That's wrong. Readers had hard times to solve the mystery. Higurashi readers should had suspected that magic isn't true. The idea of dual personalities was discussed, too. IICR Shannon, Kanon, Rosa, Runon (the 19th person wasn't outright denied) and Kyrie were the most suspected people.

>> No.25015348

>>25014872
>tohya fantasy
Lmao
Ikuko wrote that shit
is Kumasawa face when she was yang like genji with ronove

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25015473

why no one discuss about Saku?
how i can wrote my manifesto part about it without arguing?

so difficult for Shkanon fags explain why Erika is just a personality of another person in the island?

>> No.25015947

>>25015473
Because Saku's translation reeks of ESL.

>> No.25015970

>>25015947
i read Light novel with google translate and you get mad for 2 grammar errors?

PATHETIC

>> No.25015986

>>25015947
aren't there two saku translations?
one by some anon, and then the one by 07th-mod?
haven't read it yet, so can't say if both suck or if they're both actually the same

>> No.25016019

>>25015970
And that's why your theory is flawed from the get-go, ESLguido-kun

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25016085

>>25016019
MY THEORY IS PERFECT
i read umineko with an italian translation me by university students

i speak about other books

>> No.25016163

>Italianon read it in italian
everything is starting to make sense

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25016192

>>25016163
what is the difference
you read in english
no one of us read in japanese so why my shit is worst than your shit?

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25016252

>>25016192
>implying I don't

>> No.25016339

>>25016252
fake and gay
you search of internet a japanese image

>> No.25016509

>>25016339
Without love, you can't read it

>> No.25016579

>>25016509
ok so you read saku in japanese
explain why Erika is consider a personality of another person
>>24944307
>>24944336
pro tip you cant

>> No.25016844

>>25016579
same as english desu why would it change
Because Erkia wasn't in Rokkenjima so nobody knows how she originally was, that means you can make her into anybody you want.

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>>25016844
>that means you can make her into anybody you want.
this is a mistery anon

Ange can call up virtual personality
what we see in the game that ange revive?
the stakes, Sakutaro and Mariatrice

all of that dont exist in reality but are part of meta
Ange's brain in others words can create fictional character and made Ange speak with them
like when you daydream about your favorite books

So Erika is a complete fantasy character who dont exist in reality
So Erika is just a illusion created by someone in the island
So Erika like Beatrice is one of the 17 humans in the island

and thanks the riddle in the games
Erika is Kanon

>> No.25017235

>>25016252
Can you give a link to download TRianThology, please? I've been looking for it for a while.

>> No.25017484

>>25017235
https://nyaa.si/view/915947

>> No.25017759
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Kino

>> No.25018297

>>25017484
Oh. Some times ago, when I search it, there were no seeds. Thanks, anyway!

>> No.25018360

>>25016990
>this is a mistery anon
no it's a romance

>> No.25018595

>>25018360
why is a romance?
because 2 people fall in love thanks mistery
if you insult it then there is no romance

>> No.25020856

>>24994852
Welp I finished it. Piece was really annoying but I guess witches are always autistic. Natsuhi acting as beatrice was adorable, wish it was properly voice acted.

>> No.25021140

>>25020856
I think they're making a port of Saku so it might get voice acting and updated sprites at that time.

>> No.25021326

Are all 50 Matsuri fragments actually worth reading or is it just going to be more stuff that I already know.

>> No.25021656

My asolute favorite scene from Umineko has to be "Kinzo does not exist anywhere outside of this bed". When Erika starting using Hempel's Raven to narrow down the places Kinzo could be, I knew exactly what her goal was, but holy FUCK the second she says the line I quoted I knew what her other motive was and even though it didn't involve murder, that's just the most fucking brutal act in the entire VN.

>> No.25021705

>>25010665
Yasu WANTS Battler to win. That's why she sets up the mystery and all the game shit instead of just blowing the bomb up the second the boat makes it to the island. This was explained heavily anon, come on. Without love it cannot be seen.

Here's the thing though: Virgilia doesn't exist. All her "character" is, is Battler writing his own "cat box explanation" and inserting new characters into it to fit HIS narrative, that Beatrice wasn't actually fully evil at all.

>> No.25021728

>>25010980
>Shannon spelling out her promise at the beginning of episode 3
Oh shit, explain this?

>> No.25021749

>>25021656
this is funny how can her know that he is not hiding in the forest or in any other part of the island?

Simple because she know that Kinzo is death since she is Kanon

>> No.25021754

>>25021326
They are all important and full of new informations. You will know a bit much about the characters. Read them closesly or you will be stuck, unless you use a guide.
When you finish Matsuri, you will be able to unlock a secret fragment by re-reading them in order without breaking a fragment.

>> No.25021784

>>25021754
Christ this is going to take forever.

>> No.25021820

>>25010980
This is one of the greatest proof against Shkanontrice

Battler in that moment remember his relationship with Shannon
HE REMEMBER
totally the opposite that Yasu said in all umineko

>> No.25021870

>>25021656
The twists Erika are involved in are all the most batshit insane things possible, and it's amazing to watch them unfold. The entire "I, Furudo Erika, have acquired duct tape!!!" premise is gold. The fucking insane payoff to Furudo refusing to claim the right to be the detective was absolutely perfect too, that's the sort of weird quirk in the plot that could go in a bunch of different directions, but revealing that Erika revoked her rights to be the detective so that she could fucking murder people herself (as Detectives can't) is just fucking brilliantly brutal.

>> No.25021886

>>25021820
OOHHHH FUCK THIS PROVES ERIKA IS TRANS!

>> No.25021907

>>25021886
Erika is a woman like Kanon,Lion;Yasu and Ikuko
your argument dont have any sense

>> No.25021985

>>25021870
Erika that call herself the greatest detective
>dont check if the bodies with the same fake death of 10 little indians are really death nad trust the doctor opinion( the accomplice in 10 little indians)
>seal everything except Kinzo's study window
>dont check if someone is hiing in a closed room
>solve the epigraph even if is impossible to solve without genji's help

she is the worst detective ever
she just made everything to accuse natsuhi

>> No.25022019

>>25021985
>>>dont check if the bodies with the same fake death of 10 little indians are really death nad trust the doctor opinion( the accomplice in 10 little indians)
WHOA spoiler dude, I didn't read the italian translation of 10 little indians yet.

>> No.25022079

>>25021784
Don't worry, they are quite shorts.

>> No.25022101

>>25022019
you think that only aghata christie's books are worth to read

YOU SEE IN AN ISOLATED ISLAND 6 BODIES WITH THE SAME FAKE DEATH OF YOUR FAVORITE BOOK(same favorite book of yasu) PUSH BATTLER AND SAY TO HIM THAT IS YOUR RIGTH OF DETECTIVE INSPECT THE BODIES AND THEN DONT INSPECT IT BUT TRUST NANJO'S OPINION, THE DOCTOR THAT IN 10 LITTLE INDIANS IS AN ACCOMPLICE AND CONFIRM THE FAKE DEATH OF THE CULPRIT

EXPLAINE THIS
ERIKA OR IS THE CULPRIT OR NEVER READ 10 LITTLE INDIANS

>> No.25022153

>>25022101
I'll say it in red!

ERIKA EVER READ 10 LITTLE INDIANS BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T READ TRANSPHOBIC BOOKS!

>> No.25022187

>>25022153
fuck off faggot
deny the evidence in fron of you

literrally the worst type of goat
seriously what a fuck have you read?
Umineko version where mistery parts are subtitute with Belive in what other people said without doubt?

>> No.25022195

>>25022187
I said it in red, you can't deny it.

>> No.25022242

>>25022195
Red without proofs dont count
read umineko to discover it

>> No.25022296

I didn't realize Italianon was obsessed with 10 little niggers too.

>> No.25022352

>>25022296
nope but Erika yes and act like she never read it
how explain it?
there is a simple solution
Erika for her crime took inspiration from her favorite book

>> No.25022621

Seems like today is another "Erikanon is unable to understand not 100% literal narrative" episode

>> No.25022649

>>25021326
Are you a psychopath, only interested in raw information and plot without any appreciation for the actual story?

>> No.25022653

>>25022621
>try to explain something in a mistery is wrong
ok goat

>> No.25022687

>>25021784
Why do you see it as busywork? It's just a normal part of the story presented in a different way. I don't understand your point of view. Why not skip to the ending if you are so desperate to get to it?

>> No.25022727

When I read 10 lil niggerinos, I imagined the woman who drowned a kid as a younger Natsuhi, the dude who abandoned his troops as Leo, the doctor guy as Nanjo's son and the police dude as Akasaka. I also pictured the judge as Manfred von Karma.

>> No.25022764

Who the fuck does Rethabile have 20+ siblings? Are they factory made too?

>> No.25022818

>>25022727
>I also pictured the judge as Manfred von Karma.
perfect

>> No.25022868

So what was the culprit's plan in ten small negroes? I mean, the part where the last people die is kinda shaky because it seemed to happen by pure chance after the culprit was already dead. They had no way to make sure it happened that way.

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>>25022242
>Red without proofs dont count

>> No.25022876

>Dlanor: Knox's 2nd. It is forbidden for supernatural agencies to be employed as a detective TECHNIQUE. We cannot use that red truth DIRECTLY. However, I gave Cornelia, who was protecting the window, the red truth that 'the window was never opened after it started RAINING'.
>Dlanor: I don't UNDERSTAND. All of a sudden, in that instant, use of that trump card became FORBIDDEN. Once we lost that, your victory was GUARANTEED.
Why couldn't Cornelia use this red truth again?

>> No.25022915

>>25022876
They explain it shortly after.

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>>25022873
>expecting italianon to understand the basics of Umieko

>> No.25023005

>>25022873
>>25022964
NATSUHI IS NOT THE CULPRIT

GO TO READ UMINEKO

>> No.25023021

>>25022876
They have the sigil on the window strange fact that Erika sigil Kinzo's study window but stay silent about it

O YES WE KNOW THE REASON

>> No.25023028

>>25023005
If Natsuhi is not the culprit why did she sleep with Kinzo? Kinzo couldn't exist anywhere outside of Natsuhi's bed, which Natsuhi also slept on, so they must have shared even the same pillow.

>> No.25023032

>Ange was supposed to grow up as a spoiled rich girl
>angsty teen Ange only exists because loli Ange got diarrhea and couldn't attend
>she's so proud and "badass", and yet her very existence requires that she go through the humiliation of surviving a massacre because she was shitting herself and this information is known by everyone in the world
Pathetic! She's so prideful, and yet the very past that made her that way includes such a great humiliation that negates her dignity as a human! It's impossible for this Ange to exist without having experienced that! I bet her bullies made sure to remind her of it!

>> No.25023047

>>25023028
the read truth said IF KINZO IS ALIVE THEN ....(the rest)

LIKE I SAY GO TO READ UMINEKO

>> No.25023081

Humiliation anon and erikanon are the catastrophic results of having too much or too little IQ. Extremes are never good. Mediocre double digit IQ normies might not so bad after all.

>> No.25023157

>>24986747
Why do you enjoy humiliating the proud? That's just cruel>>24986774

>> No.25023198

>>24985124
https://youtu.be/nr9oWHbXMV4

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>>25023081
The thread was quite comfy until someone took his bait at the very end.

>> No.25023332

I think everyone in Ciconia is trying to be diplomatic and hiding their true intentions. It's like Keiichi's suspicions that Rena and Mion were just pretending to be friendly while they disturbingly planned his murder, but played straight this time.

I think it's intentional that during Phase 1 we don't know most of the characters personally, only through their surface appearance and reputation. Even Lingji and Rethabile are only cool characters because of what they appear to be and how they are regarded by the public. We don't know their true goals and that's probably Ryu's intention. I think he's planning to subvert expectation and make the nigger straight up evil.

>> No.25023490

>>25013325
I don't buy the budget meme. I think it's just directorial incompetence. Umineko and Higurashi had nearly zero 3D/fancy animation things, so if anything, the shitty gun and rotating cameras during the gauntlet knight flights probably cost MORE

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>>25023217
It baffles me how this keeps happening.

>> No.25023906

>>25023332
Well that's kinda what was Umineko in response to Higurashi
>Higu: Every characters are the nicest people you'll ever meet, but the story and narration make them seems like they're evil
>Umi: The Ushiromiya family is just a band of unadulterated bastards, but the story and narration try to paint them as good people

For now Ciconia seems more like a dab on RGD, with the characters being forced to fight when they really don't want to instead of the other way around

>> No.25024020

>>25023332
No fucking way the princess is evil. She's cute.

>> No.25024263
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25024263

So, is Dlanor a gauntlet knight or are the gauntlet knights part of Eiserne Jungfrau?

>> No.25024353

>>25024263
>gauntlet knights are just chess pieces
LMAO

>> No.25024417

>>25024263
Ciconia is a big middle finger to Dlanor. They stole her gauntlet and created technology she had once denied for all eternity in red.

>> No.25024434

>>25024263
I'm expecting a Dlanor expy as the AI in charge of the matrix.

>> No.25024465

>>24988680
>Dennou Coil
Amazing series, but there's this hella cute tomboy loli who has a walking naked ass as her virtual mascot. If she finds butts funny, she's actually humiliating herself.

>> No.25024470

I will not allow Ciconia to EXIST.

>> No.25024601

>>25024020
Sure, she dindu nuffin'

>> No.25024608

>>25022649
>>25022687
I'm almost done. I was just genuinely asking if it was a recap or something. But no it does have a lot of information that I need to read.

>> No.25024649

>>25024608
Why would you include a recap in a novel? Lmao

>> No.25024651

>>25024470
What did the original text do that caused Witch Hunt to capitalize Dlanor's words like that?

>> No.25024656
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25024656

I recently read Umineko Saku but since the eng patch was announced I've been making excuses to not read it but after reading it, I was pleasantly surprised. Mainly with Last note, it was quite the fun read and I got a bit emotional at the end.
The new songs were also pretty good, I'm a big fan of Busy Devils.

>> No.25024676

>>25024651
Her desu is written in katakana to build up the "die the death" pun.

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>>25024656
>read saku
now you belive in erikantrice?

>> No.25024734

>>25024684
Naturalmente, il mio amico

>> No.25024784

>>25024734
Basato e rossopillato
compagno d'armi dei cavalieri di erikantrice

>> No.25025008

What's saku actually about, for real? I haven't read it, but it's been many years since reading Umineko so I don't know if I'll even be "prepared" for it.

>> No.25025025

>>25025008
a whole lot of nothing except the fact that lambda and bern has left umineko for good now

>> No.25025094

>>25025008
first part is a mistery where george is the culprit then dlanor say that no one find the real solution

second part is a game with Battler , Beatrice and Ange where many unsolved mistery are explained + special parts about things cut from umineko

>> No.25025345

>>25025094
>special parts about things cut from umineko
like shannon's balls?

>> No.25025360

>>25025345
Shannon is a woman and a bit useless for the plot
Part like spoiler and spoiler but most important confirm that Erika is just a personality

>> No.25025424

>>25012218
Does Haworthia really count when that album was literally advertised as the sound of new when they cry

>> No.25025860

>>24944260
Where did you find this picture?

>> No.25025927

>>25025345
Do you think nanjo gave her a tranny hole? Or is she just a nullo?

>> No.25025946

>>25025927
I like to think there's still a flacid baby-penis, and that only the balls were destroyed.

>> No.25026177

I hate having to come here to check for ciconia news from time to time and seeing this braindead schizo erikantrice nigger flooding the threads

>>25025008
Saku is basically a bonus epilogue. It's short at like 2-3 hours. Ending implies bern and lambda are going to observe ciconia

>> No.25026237

>>25025946
I like to think that too, but's probably a complete castration.

>> No.25026650

>>25025927
Probably just has a hole for a urethra.

>> No.25026692

>>25025946
That makes no sense. She wasn't supposed to figure out the truth, it was meant look like a weird pussy.

>> No.25026719

>>25026692
It's not like every child knows what a pussy looks like. Let alone the ones that are controlled by people who want to hide the truth.

>> No.25026781

A castration scar with an improvised peehole made by a dude who is NOT a plastic surgeon is still way less disgusting than what actual trannies willingly do to themselves. At least Yasu doesn't have a festering open wound like those sick fucks. It's just scar tissue.

She's also literally prepubescent and never had the chance to develop even a slightly masculine figure before the fall, so she passes more than any tranny ever will.

>> No.25026837
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>>25026781
YASU IS A FEMALE
KINZO IS AFRAID OF COMMIT THE SAME SIN AGAIN
A MALE CANT HAVE CHILDREN

DENY THIS FAGGOTS

>> No.25026862

>>25026837
Genji only hid the baby from Kinzo after it lost its junk and he decided to raise it as a girl. If anything, your argument only proves Yasu is male.

>> No.25026891

>>25026719
>Maria literally knows what her pussy looks like
Pathetic! How can she live with herself? She's seen her weak, skinny, bald loli body at least once and yet she didn't lose all her pride and dignity! Is this a miracle?

>> No.25026901

>>25026862
kinzo give the baby to Natsuhi because he is afraid of commit the same sin again
he is afraid of make her pregnant

all of that before Genji hide the baby

>> No.25026933

>>25026901
But Natsuhi think the baby is male.
When she heard the voice of the baby from 19 years ago in ep5 she immediatly assume he's a guy

>> No.25026969

>>25026901
No, Kinzo gave Natsuki the baby so that when it grows up, it doesn't think of Kinzo as a father so the fucking is less weird.

>> No.25026984

>>25026933
>But Natsuhi think the baby is male.
No? She has no way of knowing it's gender. She assumed it after she heard the voice over the phone and even then she wasn't sure

>> No.25027018

>>25026984
You're saying to me that she didn't know the gendre of the baby she was supposed to raise before trying to kill it?
Because when hearing the voice she assume it's a guy, and then she assume it's the baby

>> No.25027029

>>25026969
give the baby to natsuhi to raise her as a male so he will not rape her

>> No.25027046

>>25027018
>You're saying to me that she didn't know the gender of the baby she was supposed to raise
Yes. Do you fucking thing she changed it's diapers or something? Reread that part.

>> No.25027095

>>25027046
And I guess the servants changing it's diapers where all on the conspiracy?
Seems pretty convoluted imo

>> No.25027101

>>25027018
Kinzo tell her to raise her as a boy and for Natsuhi Kinzo's speech is absolute law

>> No.25027141

>>25027095
She had 3 days with the baby and she hated it. She didn't change diapers or ask what genitals it possessed.

>> No.25027169

>>25027095
>servants
It is reasonable to assume the only servant who knew was the woman that died considering the short span of time.

>> No.25027297

>>25027046
It's fucking ridiculous to assume Natsuhi wouldn't know the gender of the baby after three whole days. It's something that would come up sooner or later soon after receiving it, no matter what. Unless they were all intentionally avoiding it and using ambiguous words for no reason.

Your theory makes absolutely no sense.

>> No.25027403

>>25027297
>It's fucking ridiculous to assume Natsuhi wouldn't know the gender of the baby after three whole days
Three days of having a servant babysit it, elaborate on what's so ridiculous about that.
>intentionally avoiding
What Natsuhi was doing.

>> No.25027462

>>25027297
reread that part of the VN. Natsuhi wanted nothing to do with the baby, she probably doesn't even know it's eye color.

>> No.25027605

>>25027403
>>25027462
She could literally learn the baby's gender just from the servants or Kinzo using gendered words when talking about it. Avoiding the baby or never seeing its dick because the servamts changed its diaper, it doesnt matter. Not knowing the baby's gender is the Absolute biggest reach.

>> No.25027619

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K8XEcZ1tzE

Send help I can't stop playing it

>> No.25027620
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I'm so excited for Phase 2 bros I can't wait

>> No.25027655

>>25027620
Every ryukishi's chapter 2 is always one of the worst of their respective vn
I'm more excited for phase 3 which will be kino like usual

>> No.25027668

>>25027403
>>25027462
The gender of the baby would naturally come up in any random conversation 10 minutes later. Any common pronoun or word would make it clear, unless they were all unnaturally avoiding any unintentional reference to its gender like Jessica did in EP7 due to Bern's GM authority. It's just absurdly unlikely that the gender would never come up, even by accident. Hell, even if something that unlikely happened, Natsuhi would ask no matter how much she hated the baby. Also, she wasn't a cartoon character. She disliked the idea of caring for it, but she still pretended to be OK with it for a day or two before she relied entirely on the servant. Even if she never even held it herself (ridiculously cartoony behavior for such a proud woman), she would still ask the basics about it at least.

Seriously, your idea is completely ridiculous, unnatural and more unlikely than solving the epitaph. She assumed the creepy guy was a man because she obviously knew the baby was male. It's 100% impossible a person in that situation would never know the gender, no matter what.

>> No.25027708

>>25027620
WHEN

>> No.25027731

>>25027668
The add onto what you already pointed out. The voice on the phone was ambiguous so that you couldn't tell the gender--so the fact that she felt so sure it was "the man from 19 years ago", means she knew the baby was a boy.

>> No.25027842

>>25027668
This. I can't believe people are seriously arguing she never knew its gender. It's goes against basic common sense. This is on the level of people solving the crimes by having the characters act in irrational ways (such as throwing a severed hand with the letter against the door to cause the knock without stepping inside the mansion) in order to get around the red truth.

>> No.25027891

>>25027731
then Yasu is female since a castrate boy have a female voice meanwhile a girl without puberty have a male voice

>> No.25028009

>>25027668
>The gender of the baby would naturally come up in any random conversation 10 minutes later
Why are you talking about events not shown to the reader with such certainty? The possibilities are endless
>Hell, even if something that unlikely happened
You even admit it could happen.
>she wasn't a cartoon character. She disliked the idea of caring for it, but she still pretended to be OK with it for a day or two
Or ten seconds, Kinzo was already a recluse it's not like he would follow her around and observe. Or maybe she did pretend for a day and again just never asked for any details because of her shitty mental state at the time. Or a billion other things
>She assumed the creepy guy was a man because she obviously knew the baby was male.
She heard a mysterious voice closer to a male than female. And assumed the caller was a man. What the fuck are you on about?

Also there are multiple people talking to you and I don't even claim Yasu is female or male, just that it is not something that can be answered decisively (almost as if it was a conscious choice on the author's side)

>> No.25028075

>>25027605
We see the conversation with Kinzo. He uses 0 gendered words, goat. He says "this baby", and that's fucking it.

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We'll never know Miyao's sex, do we?

>> No.25028346

>>25028260
yes is a woman she even was in a poster with rena and beatrice in bunny suit

>> No.25028391

>>25028346
but beatrice is not a woman

>> No.25028419
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I love my wife Chloe! She also loves me a lot! We're so happy together It's insane.

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>>25028391
is a cute tomboy like erika, lion ,kanon and ikuko

>> No.25028526

>>25028009
You are basically arguing that Maria doesn't shit because we never see it on-screen.

>> No.25028563

>>25028260
They strongly imply Miyao has a pussy in the same scene where Jayden worries he might be a fag for dating Meow. It's a female.

Yasu is also strongly implied to be a male beyond any reasonable doubt. You'd have to grasp at straws to argue otherwise.

>> No.25028581

>>25028419
I've seen her humiliated in that one Guglielmo doujin. She's pathetic.

>> No.25028631

>>25028581
Oh god I don't have access to sad panda what the fuck do I do now I'll have to live one week without seeing this

>> No.25028655

>>25028631
>>/jp/thread/S23523758#p23603048

>> No.25028661

>>25028526
Not really. I gave you two alternative ways the events might have transpired that are just as valid as what you've come up with.

>> No.25028676

>>25028631
>wanting to see your waifu humiliated
A real man would look away from that disgraceful sight.

>> No.25028696

>>25028676
Chloe's whole existence is humiliating

>> No.25028699

>>25028655
Thank you anon.
>>25028676
It makes me stronger.

>> No.25028752

Who would wear the strapon, Kanon or Jessica?

>> No.25028766

>>25028752
>strapon
>not a double sided dildo

>> No.25028770

>>25028766
Ah, the Darth Maul.

>> No.25028792

>>25028752
no one since Kanon dont love Jessica

>> No.25028817

>>25028752
Ryukishi accidentally made Yasu's distaste of anal intercourse one of his most prominent characteristics so Kanon.

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>>25028817
Wrong.

>> No.25029149

>>24986676
>>24986747
Would Meijiu sell that chinklet's loli ass in exchange for the special offers windows?

>> No.25029208

>>25028655
Hairy pussies look so wild and humiliating. The idea of a teenage girl being naked in front of her classmates, with her awkward bush exposed to everyone is pretty hot. No way in hell a teenage girls would want people to see her ridiculous developing body!

I'll never understand why most hentai artists draw them bald or why most people like to see shaved pussies in porn. It's just boring. Then again, modern men are brainwashed cucks who can't even admit to themselves that children are attractive, so I'm not surprised that they'd choose a boring shaved pussy over a natural hairy one. Modern humans dislike anything that is natural. Truly a bizarre world we live in.

>> No.25029379

>>25029208
You've got more edge than Kanon my dude.

>> No.25029485

>>25029149
Who's even want to get anywhere near the arse of a female human, let alone pay for it?

>> No.25029653

>>25029485
I'd totally lick Satoko's disgusting asshole if it causes her intense shame and humiliation

>> No.25029697

speaking of satoko's humiliation
I want to make a sprite edit for the ps3 and mangagamer sprites to make her shamefully 100% naked! Maybe even make the OG sprite have [spoilers]details![/spoiler]

>> No.25029711

>>25029697
wow I fucked that up
now I'm the one who is humiliated...

>> No.25029739

Is Davis Degawa the Teppei expy? He's such a piece of shit that even the narration hates him, lmao.

>> No.25029818

http://what-when-how.com/social-sciences/humiliation-social-science/

The field of humiliation studies emerged in the early twenty-first century.

The phenomenon of humiliation is rapidly gaining visibility and significance. Expectations of equal dignity and opportunity rise as people come closer together, both physically and digitally, in a globalizing world.

Few researchers have studied humiliation explicitly. In many cases the term humiliation has not been differentiated from other concepts. In the work of HumanDHS, in contrast, humiliation is addressed on its own and is differentiated from other concepts: humiliation is, for example, not regarded simply as a variant of shame.

In today’s mainstream language, the word humiliation is used threefold. First, the word humiliation signifies an act; second, a feeling; and third, a process: "I humiliate you, you feel humiliated, and the entire process is one of humiliation." This triple meaning of the word humiliation complicates its use; sometimes humiliation indicates the feeling of a victim, sometimes the act of a perpetrator, sometimes the entire process from act to feeling.

The earliest recorded use of to humiliate, meaning to mortify or to lower or to depress the dignity or self-respect of someone, did not occur until 1757.

Humiliation is a complicated concept. Not always does a person witness a humiliator and a humiliatee. For example, help may humiliate.

It may be precisely humiliation that hampers cooperation. Many people profess their love for peace, while being unaware that their fear of humiliation and their wish to resist humiliation may foreclose peace. A Somali proverb makes this point very clear, "A man deserves to be killed and not to be humiliated".

Adolf Hitler imagined future world domination and humiliation from the World Jewry (Weltjudentum), and the Holocaust was his atrocious attempt to "prevent" future humiliation.

>> No.25029840

>>25029818
cope

>> No.25029842

>>25029818
>"I humiliate you, you feel humiliated, and the entire process is one of humiliation."
This is a work of art.

>> No.25029951

>>25028655
This artist goes too far too often. I can't help but imagine these characters committing suicide after everything is over. It's such a level of humiliation it becomes painful to watch, like a car accident.

>> No.25030258

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems
>When the enemy is too strong to be attacked directly, attack something they cherish.
What the fuck, no wonder Richard suspected them.

>> No.25030701

>>25030258
lmao, this is some peak dark triad shit

>> No.25031230

>>25030258
>Cornered prey will often mount a final desperate attack. To prevent this, let the enemy believe they still have a chance for freedom. Their will to fight is hampered by their desire to escape. The enemy's morale will be depleted and they will surrender without a fight when the illusion of escape is revealed.
Evil chinks.

>> No.25031640

>>25030258
>>25030701
>>25031230
And in the end, american government were worse than chinks

>> No.25032243

>>25031640
It's funny how the Americans were so fucking corrupt that the entire HQ got blackmailed by a single squeaky clean maniac.

>> No.25032385
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>>25032243
kek

>> No.25032423
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How would you rank R07s villains?
Beatrice > Erika > Toujirou > Bern > Takano
I don't hate any at all, and I still need to read RGD since Gabriel is apparently kino.

>> No.25032623
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>>25032423
Teppei beat all of them

>> No.25034414

>>25032423
Airwrecka sucks

>> No.25034422

>>25032423
Bern > everyone. Strapped Ange to a chair and forced her to listen to her own mother say she’s a piece of shit.

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>>25032623
Keiichi beats him

>> No.25034451

>>25034429
Yeah but Keiichi didn't taste Satoko's pussy

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>>25028752
Kanon, and he would do the "arise, seventh sister of purgatory, stake of lust" thing every time.

>> No.25035926

>>25035512
>you will never have autistic roleplaying sex with bootleg marisa

>> No.25035966
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>>25035926
But I want to have autistic roleplaying sex with Yasu instead...

>> No.25036035

>>25035966
even if Kanon is a cute tomboy, she'd still be the boring bokukko variant, which is way inferior to the loud, clumsy, proactive type that has a hidden core of femininity which comes to the forefront when she becomes romantically interested in someone.

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>>25036035
But Mion is a much better example of that type.

>> No.25036095

>>25036085
Yes.

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>>25036035
Kanon is different
she is a tomboy not for sport but for mistery novels
image discuss with her for hours about mistery
literrally the greatest dream that a man can have

>> No.25036295

>>25032423
I like Takano a lot. The problem with Higurashi isn't her, but that that she got hijacked by a motivationless cartoon villain at the last second

>> No.25036713

>>25032423
The new anime, even if it's absolute shit, better have some great fan service extras or ova. I demand more!

>> No.25036861

(°3°) kei-chan (°3°)

>> No.25037806

>>25035966
Quite based. I'd also love to have passionate sex with the mess that is Yasu.

>> No.25038094

Rena is sexually attracted to colonel Sanders.

>> No.25038290

>>24988022
>>24990912
>>24991055
Somehow I feel a voice like that would fit Koshka too.

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>>25017484
AHHAHAHAHAHHA FUCKING FINALY!! I have all things I needed, thanks anon~.

>> No.25041525

>>25039758
It's reaaally slow, tho...

>> No.25042385

>Kinomoto Sakura's got an arse
Now this is unbelievable, she's so cute and wholesome. And yet. Imagine how much of a degenerate Tomoyo must be to be attracted to an arse-having creature of her same gender! Super degenerate!

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>> No.25042692

>>25042527
Lmao

>> No.25042757

>>25042385
All lesbians are degenerate. Especially loli lesbians, since they want to fuck little girls.

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>>25042527
low iq tard dont understand how muc kanon is a cute tomboy and the best girl of umineko

>> No.25045530

>>25044706
cope

>> No.25045752

>>25045530
no u
u envy because i proof that i am not gay

>> No.25046076
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25046076

yo /07/
pls tell me how the fuck to rip Higanbana BGs
I want to make a funny meme
thanks in advance

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