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How would Rider fare against Archer?

>> No.2412386

Iskander would lose to Gilgamesh

>> No.2412384

Yes.

>> No.2412389

READ HEAVEN'S FEEL AGAIN

Also situational problem arises in whether Archer is a fuckhead who just spams Kanshou and Bakuya or will actually bother projecting something like Herpe.

>> No.2412393

>>2412386
Only because Gordius Wheel had been destroyed by Seiba and he was facing him on a bridge where he couldn't make good use of Ionioi Hetairoi.

>> No.2412398
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2412398

Rider sucks, only useful as a woman.

Also, you are now a statue

>> No.2412405

>>2412398

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCKING GORGONS.

>> No.2412407

>>2412393
Still lost

>> No.2412411
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>>2412393

Or, you know, because everyone loses to Gilgamesh in a standard fight except 5th Archer.

>> No.2412413

Archer would lose, he was easily petrified because of LOL MAGIC RESISTANCE.

>> No.2412419

>>2412411
If Gil instantly pulled out Ea against Emiya like he did against Alexander, then he wouldn't have stood a chance despite having UBW.

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>> No.2412459
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2412459

Mongrels.

>> No.2412489
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>>2412419

No, 5th Archer is faster than 4th Archer.

Rather than staring in awe at GILGAMESH'S SPARKLING SUPER NOBLE PHANTASM (which he already knows what it is), he'd pull the exact same stunt Shirou did.

Archer hates Gilgamesh and everything Gilgamesh represents. He wouldn't act halfheartedly like he does against all the other Servants.

>> No.2412497

>>2412419
Gil can't pull Ea out because of SHOULDER PAIN.

>> No.2412514
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>>2412459
MY QUEEN

>> No.2412716

>>2412514
>>2412459

Now THAT is a Gilko I can get behind.

And by get behind, I mean stab my meat rod into her vagina,piercing her "priceless" hymen as she instantly pierces me through the chest,endlessly defliling my corpse.

>> No.2413217

>>2412489
Gil only lost his arm because he didn't have his armor on. Don't forget that it was able to receive a number of direct hits from Excalibur before bending. Emiya wouldn't have been able to imitate Shirou if Gil was being serious.

>> No.2413256

You know, something has been bothering me for a while.

When Rin took over Saber's contract in UBW, Saber's power jumped by ALOT. Load up a save with post Rin Saber and compare. Now consider- when Archer was her servant, his stats were pretty mediocre. Hell, after he broke the contract, he was so weak Shirou beat him straight up without any hax. Barely, but still. Archer was, in all honesty, a pretty lame duck servant, and even an inoptimal Rider could probably beat him in terms of pure speed.

Honestly, when comparing Servants, it's important to take into consideration who the Master is. Rin and Ilya were the only truly full fledged Masters, all the rest were borked in some way (even Sakura).

>> No.2413285

>>2413217

If Archer's going super-serial he'd be using UBW to max-spam and Kanshou/Bakuya Overedge.
Gil would be clashing Gate with UBW (and we all know how finite vs. infinite goes), when he whips out Ea Archer steps in for constant melee distraction.

Ultimately, it depends if a bundle of orphans or Tohsaka have more magical energy.

>>2413256

Archer's power is still stupid rigged.

Herpe, should he project it, would bring her down just as Perseus had it do.

>> No.2413316

>>2412411
And Saber.

>> No.2413322

>>2413285
Activating UBW takes a long time. Gil could simply take out Ea and blast him instantly (Ea doesn't need to power up; Gil just does it because he likes going easy on his opponents).

>> No.2413328
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>>2413316

Regaining the perfect defense she lost does not count as a "standard fight".

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2413331

Oh hey guys... whats going on in here?

>> No.2413333

>>2413316
I agree. Saber with Avalon is the only servant that poses a serious threat to Gil.

>> No.2413539
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2413539

Depends on the situation.

Lancer can wipe the floor with Archer, but Archer manages to keep up with him because Archer actually plots and plans.

If Archer was actually away from Rider and draw his bow and snipe, then I'd say the fight goes to Archer.

And actually, Nasu said that Archer VS Rider would be a draw.

As for Archer beating Gil? Depends on the situation, but Gil was afraid of him.

>> No.2413549

But how would she fare against my penis?

>> No.2413651

>>2412405
Hey look, it's that faggot again.

>> No.2413680
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2413680

All your Servants are nothing against this nigger.

>> No.2413691

>>2413256

As I recall, much of a servant's power is influenced by society's ideal of that legendary hero. So 5th archer has next to zero ability because in the eyes of society, he isn't legendary.

Saber's abilities under Shirou are limited because she can't use nearly as much magical energy as she could under Rin.

>> No.2413709

"Damn it!" Shinji cursed as he saw his chance go down the drain in barely a handful of seconds. "Rider, kill that red coated bastard!"

The response was instantaneous, and Archer opted to dodge instead of risk being fried by failing to completely block the attack. Being encumbered only by what was akin to body armor, Archer's reactions were far superior to Saber's. However, he realized without even a moment's thought that it would only be a matter of time before his luck ran dry.

His options were few. While he had a large arsenal at his disposal, anything that took more time to Trace would be too long, that included simply converting his bow and arrow and aiming. However, even if he did, he very much doubted that he would be able to penetrate the Pegasus' defense.

'I could…" Archer felt a blush creep up onto his cheeks at the ridiculousness of his plan, not to mention that if he was even off by a slight margin he'd be dead within a moment's notice.

There simply wasn't any other choice. A blade could work in the same situation, but chances of killing Rider in a single blow were slim, even more so than his bizarre idea.

"No choice." Archer grimaced. Feeling the familiar power of maryoku coursing through his body, he readied himself as the golden-white beam began its next deadly pass.

>> No.2413718

It all happened in a single instant, less than a second. Archer had been able to maneuver closer to the stairwell, and as the Pegasus flew down to kill him, he leapt over to the outcrop and rebounded, bringing himself just above the legendary beast as it came down. The opening was there, and Archer expertly flung the end of his tool.

Archer swore that it was the most nerve-racking millisecond of his life – of the life that he could remember anyway.

He would also swear that the next one was the most relieving, as he felt his end pull taut. Rider would only give a small gasp, which quickly turned into a gag as she was forcefully yanked off her steed from her neck and flipped around dizzyingly, slamming face first into the hard cement of the building right after.

Wasting no time, Archer swiftly descended onto his enemy, smashing onto her back – stunning her in the process. Using the skills now open to him, it took only moments to adjust the bridle before he felt a warm glow in his skull.

It was, he decided, a rather odd feeling. The aforementioned glow was more like a tight ball comprised of emotions that he could feel from his 'steed', obviously a side effect of being a user of the Bridle of Chivalry. Even without the ability, he could tell that Rider was completely disoriented, and also slightly panicked. Something that he DID find surprising was the twinge of relief that soon budded into being as she started to become a bit more aware.

>> No.2413723

"R-Rider?!" The surprised yelp of Shinji made Archer crack an unfriendly smile. Using the speed that was part of being an Eirei, he created a single blade – Kanshou – and flung it in the direction of the voice. Only pausing to glance in the direction to confirm that the squishy noise was indeed Shinji's brain being splattered over the rooftops, Archer turned back to the purpled-haired Servant.

"Hmm…" Archer pondered. His awareness of his 'steed' appeared to be increasing, enough that he could distinctly grasp at each emotion and get a surface thought on its existence. Well, it was less an actual thought and more like a series of half-formed images. For instance, he could feel a large amount of satisfaction accompanying the picture of Shinji's corpse littering the cement.

"Funny, I don't remember this being a part of it." Archer scratched his head as he actually took a look at the golden-like material in his hands. The oddity was that he CLEARLY remembered the rope Rider used on Pegasus lacking a bit, yet the hard material was now digging into the Servant's mouth, inconveniently muting any speech she might give into incoherent murmurs.

>> No.2413725

Finally deciding to stand up from his position, yet not releasing the bridle, Archer urged for her to also stand. As she did, Archer felt a new emotion bubble up: curiosity.

"Hmm," Archer raised his brow at the wordless question. "You're wondering how I knew I could do this?"

A nod.

'A witless assumption,' Archer grumbled in his mind. "An educated guess. I knew from the moment you revealed your Noble Phantasm that you were Medusa. I also knew that you were, at least at one point, a near mindless beast. It stands to reason that if Bellerophon can tame the fierce Pegasus, it might do the same to the youngest of the Gorgons."

A feeling of awe ascended in his mind, making Archer feel chagrined.

'Definitely the youngest,' he decided. 'That such an idiotic move impressed rather than inspire scorn tells me something. Although…'

"What to do…" Archer sighed. While he was glad that he had won out, the situation was far from what he had expected. At the most, he had been hoping for a chance to slay the Servant. The emotional connection certainly hadn't been anywhere near his calculations, and that she would be so… docile afterwards was also far too bizarre.

There was definitely something going on in this situation. He almost wished he hadn't slain Shinji, as he could have questioned him before silencing the idiot. He wasn't going to risk fooling around with the bridle and remove the bit. It was entirely possible that it was the only thing keeping the Servant so obedient, and answers to his questions weren't worth reigniting a battle.

Sighing again, Archer led Rider along, picking up the somewhat bloodstained book nearby Shinji's corpse before walking down the stairs with the taller girl in tow. He could figure this out later; he just wanted to get back to the Emiya residence before his growing headache killed him. However, fate didn't give a damn what he wanted.

>> No.2413732

It would be better if he rode on Rider's shoulders.

>> No.2413749

Continue...

>> No.2413759

Proceed.

>> No.2413784

>>2413749

seriously man, continue.

>> No.2413824

>>2413749
>>2413759
>>2413784

sauce is http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3511024/1/Rider_is_Readily_Ridden

the guy that wrote it frequents http://z14.invisionfree.com/The_Fanfiction_Forum/ , where his works in progress, one-shot snippets and ideas that never (or almost never) make it to a more public facing site are posted and discussed.

>> No.2413840

>>2413824

That forum is inaccessible to anyone who lacks an account, what am I supposed to do with this?

>> No.2413847

>>2413840
There seems to be plenty under his FF account, read that first.
If you're that interested, that is.

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>>2413824

forgot mah pic

>> No.2413880

>>2413840

Register?

>> No.2414012

If Gil was serious he could probably crush anyone.

That's his major fault though, he doesn't get serious unless things are already out of his control, and by then shit's too late. He's like a little kid with a bazooka.

>> No.2414022

>>2414012

I seem to recall someone once saying that Gil gets truly serious once in F/HA. Anyone care to vouch for that?

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>>2414022
When Gil goes topless you know he's being serious.

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2414049

Shiki can kill Gilgamesh.

>> No.2414098

>>2414049
Gods don't have lines.

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>>2414049
>>2414098

>> No.2414157

>>2414098
Good thing he's not a god.

>> No.2414168

>>2414022
Against the shadow dog avengers maybe?

>> No.2414184

>>2414049
No, his powerlevel is too low to do that

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>>2414098
>>2414049
>>2414112

i know its forced but ...

HERE WE GO

>> No.2414257

>>2413256
Nasu's powerlevels don't mean shit, Archer has mediocre stats and he still kills Berserker 6 times without her master support.

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