So...when exactly did she use nuclear fission? I only saw mini stars.

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Anonymous Fri Apr 10 21:53:43 2009 No.2405299 [Reply] [Original]

So...when exactly did she use nuclear fission? I only saw mini stars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 21:58:43 2009 No.2405319 Nuclear /fusion/. Like, you know, stellar fusion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:04:43 2009 No.2405335 File: 192 KB, 800x991, 7b75f22aaa1931edbd62d387815c7a74.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Or is it just for a lump of melted metals on her foot?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:04:43 2009 No.2405336 >>2405319 No no, she controls both.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:13:43 2009 No.2405365 So why didn't marisa or reimu get cancer?

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:14:43 2009 No.2405377 >>2405365 Not fission, less radiation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:16:43 2009 No.2405385 >>2405365 They did. They just won't notice until they start bleeding out of their noses and eyes in a few years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:18:43 2009 No.2405396 File: 190 KB, 600x754, Okuuisnotreal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405365 That and why aren't those suns black holes.

>>	BOOF !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Fri Apr 10 22:19:43 2009 No.2405401 >>2405368so is aya a carbon rod? what i dont even

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:20:43 2009 No.2405406 >>2405385 Bald Reimu and Marisa for TH13

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:23:43 2009 No.2405421 >>2405401 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:25:43 2009 No.2405428 >>2405401 >carbon rod No, wait, what?

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Anonymous Fri Apr 10 22:59:43 2009 No.2405561

>>2405428
Pretty much every nuclear reactor around needs a so-called moderator for the reaction to occur. Remove the moderator, and the reaction will slow down and eventually cease entirely. In most reactors, the moderator is the cooling water, so that a loss of coolant will automatically shut down the reaction.

The Russian RMBK-type reactor used graphite instead as a moderator, ie carbon. Chernobyl-4 was an RMBK reactor.

Also, for some reason defying most forms of sanity and common sense, the control rods (push them into the reactor to shut things down) at Chernobyl were graphite-tipped. So when they were inserted, there would at first be a slight increase in reactor output, before the main part of the control rod got pushed in as well, at which point things would slow down.

On the 26th of April 1986, when the control rods were pushed in, they got stuck... This isn't the main cause of the accident (and it's quite likely that the it wouldn't have been enough even if they had gone in fully), but it sure as hell didn't help.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:01:43 2009 No.2405571 >>2405561 I don't know much about nuclear fission, much less reactors, just about fusion. Thanks for the information.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:05:43 2009 No.2405592 >>2405586 What are those black things anyway?

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:09:43 2009 No.2405625 Ran out of Okku

>>	BOOF !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Fri Apr 10 23:09:43 2009 No.2405631 >>2405615 THAT FUCKING CAT

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:15:43 2009 No.2405678 >>2405561 Anyway, I thought she was just eating a Yataragasu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:17:43 2009 No.2405686 File: 83 KB, 889x785, 5bpu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405625 how is such a thing even possible?

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:18:43 2009 No.2405693
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>>2405299
Going by the spellcard names: http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Subterranean_Animism:_Stage_6_Spell_Cards

#145 is fission, while #155, #156, #146 and the flares may be either, with the first three IMO leaning towards fission.

>>2405377
Most forms of fusion produces enormous amounts of neutron radiation. This is used in boosted warhead designs, where you basically put some tritium next to a fission bomb. The small amount of fusion you get doesn't release any amount of energy worth mentioning compared to the fission, but the neutrons generated help the fission reaction along, resulting in a much greater yield, and a more efficient use of the (often horrendously expensive) fission fuel.

So while a fusion reactor would generate a lot less radioactive waste than a fission reactor, they would still require similar amounts of shielding while in use.

This is also one way in which we can know that the original "cold fusion" hype was in error, as those who "discovered" would have been killed pretty much outright by the neutron radiation had things worked as advertised.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:19:43 2009 No.2405694 >>2405686 The others I got aren't so great/been reposted too much, if you can continue, great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:21:43 2009 No.2405701 >>2405693 Interesting, I knew that elephant foot wasn't for nothing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:27:43 2009 No.2405729 File: 91 KB, 500x757, 5hz1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405694 my paired Okuu/Orin folder is thick so i could keep goin for a while...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:28:43 2009 No.2405737 >>2405729 Great

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:29:43 2009 No.2405740 >>2405396 I don't get it

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:29:43 2009 No.2405744 >>2405741 meh

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:29:43 2009 No.2405741 File: 249 KB, 500x1293, Marisa Utsuho Dan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405365 >So why didn't marisa or reimu get cancer? How did this go so long without the proper response?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:31:43 2009 No.2405752 >>2405741 oh Dan

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:31:43 2009 No.2405754 File: 214 KB, 720x960, 4eex.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405737 its allright...my touhou image folder in general is 5.4k images....i need a new hobby

>>	BOOF !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Fri Apr 10 23:33:05 2009 No.2405763 >>2405741 they didmarisa's hat is covering a bald spot from chemo and reimu's arms are wasteing away, thus the sleeves falling down more and more

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:34:43 2009 No.2405769 >>2405754 I hope you got something not on danbooru/gelbooru

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:34:43 2009 No.2405770 >>2405763 I can't even begin to attempt to comprehend what the hell you're saying there.

>>	BOOF !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Fri Apr 10 23:36:43 2009 No.2405784 >>2405770 same here.

>>	Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q Fri Apr 10 23:39:43 2009 No.2405796 File: 376 KB, 800x807, 1232494871010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405754 Be more selective~

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:40:43 2009 No.2405802 File: 44 KB, 250x250, okuu dance.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405769 never heard of them

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:42:43 2009 No.2405809 >>2405802 Perfect

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:44:43 2009 No.2405817 >>2405740 Utsuho's stars have a radius less than it's Schwarzschild radius, so they should be black holes that would swallow all of Gensokyo. I guess.

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Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:44:43 2009 No.2405821
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>>2405796
im kinda picky about what images i save. they have to meet certain standards....but when you go through 30k touhou pictures on image dump sites....you tend to pick up a good ammount

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:46:43 2009 No.2405823 >>2405814 Hey whoa, that's not a lump of melted metals on her foot.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:47:43 2009 No.2405830 >>2405821 >image dump sites Like what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:48:43 2009 No.2405837 File: 277 KB, 800x600, 1235732821685.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405817 Simple fix: Utsuho's stars are not as massive as cosmic stars. Rather, they're impossibly low mass, maintained by her Manipulation rather than physics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:48:43 2009 No.2405835 File: 1.64 MB, 1200x1512, Touhou_-_Reiuji_Utsuho.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405823 it varies. sometimes its a lump of metal, other times its a boot or frilly leg thing.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:52:43 2009 No.2405862 File: 334 KB, 1200x640, 4vum.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405830 well one i used to go to called akkibako got taken down at the end of march.

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:52:43 2009 No.2405864

>>2405837
Yeah, but even if she can control it (meaning starting the fusion reaction with her...powers) there would still be the need of a relatively great amount of mass to maintain it. Although they could just have a short live.
Another thing, if the reaction isn't started by gravity confinement, the why are they spherical?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:59:43 2009 No.2405891 >>2405864 >there would still be the need of a relatively great amount of mass to maintain it CAN YOU NOT FUCKING READ >Rather, they're impossibly low mass, maintained by her Manipulation rather than physics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 23:59:43 2009 No.2405893 Stupid sexy raven.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:01:43 2009 No.2405902 >>2405891 She manipulates fusion/fission, not physics.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:04:43 2009 No.2405908
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>>2405902

Context, man, context.

I'm saying her stars are impossible at that size and are purely created and maintained by her Manipulation of Nuclear Fusion. Postulating what they SHOULD be doing is null, as they're not obeying regular physics due to supernatural control.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:05:43 2009 No.2405912 >>2405908 YEAH, but just controlling fusion isn't enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:06:43 2009 No.2405914 Science? In my Touhou? Reminds me of the thread we had a while back that said that Marisa moved faster than the speed of light.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:07:43 2009 No.2405918 File: 205 KB, 1200x900, 43dk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405902 manipulation of physics....would be like a combo of yukari, reiuji, sakuya, suika...anyone im missing? thats space, time, density, fusion/fisson...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:08:43 2009 No.2405920 File: 1.20 MB, 1800x1374, 1234061817521.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2405912 It is, because the fusion process isn't the one physics normally allows and therefore defining it by the properties of the fusion we know is pointless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:13:43 2009 No.2405937 >>2405914 That one was stupid. And I still think manipulation of the physics of fusion isn't enough to make a correct model on how those stars are possible. Them being spherical is still a good argument.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 01:57:43 2009 No.2406448 what? no more Utsuho?

>>	Rome !!EPVwTIz4j/f Sat Apr 11 02:09:43 2009 No.2406524 >>2405754 >I need a new hobby Not until you have collected ALL Touhou's images. I suppose that an average of a 100 images are created each day so... good luck with that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 02:14:33 2009 No.2406553 What's that from, OP?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 02:57:43 2009 No.2406775 >>2406524 Not enough hard drives

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 04:52:43 2009 No.2407296 File: 948 KB, 1250x1962, 0613d1ddc1217d2fb8905509ad05899b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Needs more Unyuu~

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