07th expansion thread

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Witch party edition

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ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS OUT:https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
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As always for improve my manifesto i need your opinion,critique and advise so send them!!!!

For the last chapter you all must wait is exam season in my uni, so for sure at March maybe before if u didnt fail no exam.

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GUYS ERIKA IS KANON!!!!! SHSL DETECTIVE KANON CONFIRMED!!!!!

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>>22774884
Fuck off he isnt me pls mods delete
Stop ruin the thread

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>>22774911
KANONRIKAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>22774772

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I read/listened to Haworthia recently and it seems to be the key to solving several of Ciconia's mysteries.
First off, 8MS is a translated form of the original Organics Automata. This much seems pretty obvious when you consider that they were desinged to perform similar tasks and the origins of 8MS are unknown, as evidenced by how no one can find the people responsible for creating the 8MS once they start breaking down.

Going even further, It's likely that all wisdom is ancient technology from Haworthia's race.
It might seem like Haworthia takes place in the far future, possibly being the future that the three kings are trying to prevent, but there are too many references to prehistoric continents like Laurentia, Gondwanaland and Pangaea.
Not to mention, their projected average temperature seems to be referencing the ice age.
Pretty much everything points to Haworthia taking place on Earth, from the nitrogen content in the air falling to 78%, to the weather and temperature changes, and to the color of the ocean becoming blue.

If this is true, then it means that all life on Earth came from Organics Automata. Kyou and Suzu, the two Organics Automata girls, seem strange in this case though since there shouldn't be any kind of humanoid life this far back. However, they seem to be an exception. Just going off their designs, one represents the land and the other the sea. They could be guardians watching over life on Earth as it develops or something like that. It's not really clear. What is clear is that these two aren't the norm for life here.

So what does this have to do with Ciconia? The people that left Earth in search of a new home are most likely "They."
Haworthia's race can't stand Earth's natural conditions, like UV rays, changing seasons or even slight variations in temperature. Their ideal world is the one that Ciconia's was becoming. Right now they're drifting through space in cryosleep searching for the right planet for them. Of course, they'll never find it since a planet like that doesn't exist. That is unless technology on Earth develops to the point where it can become paradise for them once again.

What happens when they come back to Earth? Who knows? Whatever it is, it's bad enough that killing billions of people is a better alternative.
"That planet we once loved, which turned into hell for us, is paradise for them."
The reverse might also be true. Paradise for them, could be the machine hell Miyao saw.

This is all speculation of course but there has to be some connection here besides just Haworthia's songs being used in Ciconia. When the first two lines in Haworthia are “This planet has died.”“No, it’s probably been dead for a long time now.”it tells me there's something there.

At any rate, you can read the booklet and listen to the tracks yourself here if you haven't already.
haworthia.home.blog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhwZEUYv6I&list=PLCXp9wfPXXGa9UCBAqLoC4OhfSqSLFQaO

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>>22774471
You're a monster. Is there anything more important than being hot? Jokes aside, while they aren't central characters when it comes to the plot they're certainly one of the most important narrative elements in the game, since it's Will who delivers some of the main messages

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Wow these threads are shit.

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>>22774949
Who is ?
Vn name?

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>>22775163
I see Will the same way I see Akasaka. Take that as you will.

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>>22775198
it's just the italian faggot, filter him out mentally. mods won't ban him so there's nothing we can do. he has the persistence of a mutant cockroach

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REMINDER THAT WAROSU IS NOT SAVING THESE THREADS FOR SOME REASON

The last one it saved was the one from December 24th. The previous one made on the 6th is not archived.

>>22731294

Save anything you want from here, be it text, links or images, because it's not on Warosu. And this one probably won't be either.

I think it's some sort of big that affects threads with subjects.

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Damn bros on the last part higurashi chapter 7. Shit is crazy. When tf are we getting chapter 8 on steam or is there a place where the fan translation can be downloaded?

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>>22775391
07th Theatre english
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lbT9R_VCZJQ_JSkwZ-94_pDNF0EHhP66elhPHUZlz-0/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h6uCKgY0SKygBcofMNZfuIkK8wmQs6oAIeGTrF3cGZQ/edit

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>>22775391
I'm not sure, but the problem seems to be related to subject boxes being filled with anything at all.

This very thread won't be archived because it has "07th Expansion" in the subject box .

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>>22775554
It's not a fan translation, it's the shitty old official translation (not that the new ones are that much better anyway).

Hogurashi is severely lacking in fan translations. There was a good one back in the day but it was stopped permanently when MG acquired the rights in 2009 and shat out their horrible version. The fan translation was stopped in the middle of arc 2 and never continued. Beyond that, only the Saikoroshi arc in Rei has a proper fan patch. Everything else in the series is either untranslated or a machine translated mess.

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>>22775677
MG translation hasn't been too bad. Not sure how much it deviates from the original writing but there's only been a couple of misspellings and grammar issues. Maybe 1-2 per chapter. The only problem I have with them is that the releases have been so slow. It seems like they've been prioritizing shittier h games rather than getting the good stuff out.

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shion

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>>22775710
I just don't like their engine, their UI, the removal of the minigames, the removal of Ryuukishi's commentary from the answer arcs, and the anti-loli censorship.

All I wanted was a translation patch for the original release. Why do they bother creating their own engine and shit?

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>>22775760
*question arcs

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Welp, this thread isn't getting archived either...

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>>22775760
>>22775763
It does suck that they removed the minigames. Played a bit of them on the vita version and they seemed alright, not something essential I would say, but its shows laziness on MG's part. The removal of Ryukishi commentary is also shitty, they're pretty damn short too so it doesn't make sense why they're only in answer arcs. Anti-loli shit was needed for it to get on steam. Other than that UI and engine has been stable for me.

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Is it gay for a guy to French kiss Shannon? Asking for a straight friend.

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The human condition

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Continuing my sprites, finished inking Tomitake.
Finished Ciconia last week too

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>>22775811
Do you happen to be the same guy who drew Takano, Rena and Mion two years ago? We could faintly discern their bras below their clothes. Did you make colored version of these drawings since then? I love your style and I wish a remake could be made with your drawings

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>>22775827
I guess you haven't been much on these threads the past year, I'm progressing on a fan spriteset project, what you mentionned are part of that.
The visible bras wasn't exactly something I planned to keep for the final version but I could do a variant with them I guess.

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>>22775847
Though I ended up keeping it for Mion so far since it's less obvious.

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>>22775811
And Oishi.

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>>22776160
Good, as always. I like what you're doing.

Unfortunately I feel like you're severely underestimating the amount of works needed to try to make 100+ faces for different sprites. Good luck with that, but you'll be sick of it before long.

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>>22776413
I've already done almost all the expressions of the characters appearing in Onikakushi.

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>Umineko lost the 07th battle royal
What did Ryukishi mean by this?

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>>22776698
What? Please explain.

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>>22776757
here >>22775639

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>>22775847
I'd certainly love to see such variants.

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>>22776426
Satoko looks so cute here. Great work.

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>>22775163
>they're certainly one of the most important narrative elements in the game
How so? Honestly I think they could not exist and the message would be exactly the same.

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>>22776698
Genji's cursed smiling sprite ruined them.

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Does Satoko wear a bra or did nobody tell her she's supposed to wear one?

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>>22777711
You'll have to touch in order to find out

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>>22777711
I still can't believe Satoko canonically ran around naked with her awkward preteen body exposed for everyone to see at the end of arc 3. Not that there was anyone around that early in the morning, but still.

It's sad how far gone her mind is that point. The normal Satoko would be traumatized for life if she was forced to escape from her burning house while she's taking a bath and have her developing human body burned into everyone's eyes. She wouldn't want to look at her friends' faces ever again. Spending any amount of time with them would make her feel awkward and she wouldn't be able to pull off her ojou-sama persona or tell any jokes without being fully aware that everyone has seen her naked. You need dignity to joke around.

Her shame and awkwardness would be super obvious and it would make her look even more pathetic in her friends' eyes, as they alternate between pitying her and being kind of turned on by the memory of her nude body. They can basically strip her at any time just by remembering it. Imagine how Satoko feels, knowing that her friends are aware of her shame and pity her. Pathetic! But they are also kinda glad that they got to see her unmentionables. Lewd!

And yet, arc 3 Satoko is so scared shitless that she doesn't even care about her pride and lets Keiichi see her bare arse without covering herself. She had to make a conscious choice to abandon her dignity because of a perceived life-threatening danger. That's kinda lewd. It's not like she's unaware of her butt-naked state. She knows she looks absolutely pathetic, but her mind is overwhelmed and she can't afford to worry about that when her life is in danger. If Satoko had known a month earlier that she'd eventually be forced to make the choice to abandon her human dignity, she probably wouldn't have believed it.

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>>22776426
Why does she have boobs

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>>22778203
Damn, that's hot

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>>22778218
It's canon. That's how she looks in the original art and any decent adaptation.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/201709.php

Ryuukishi takes boobs seriously and always makes them important. Satoko doesn't just have preteen buds, she literally has small tits like a young middle schooler. This detail can be observed as soon as we meet her in Onikakushi, and it foreshadows her fucked up family history and the fact that her mother kept switching husbands nonstop, meaning that Satoko lacked a proper father figure for most of her life.

He also uses boobs in Himatsubushi to hint at the characters' canon ages and also cleverly reuse sprites to get around the budget issue. Rika and Mion appear here, five years earlier, with their regular sprites. And it doesn't look off because Rika is flat and short in both time periods (meaning she's an underdeveloped preteen in 1983). Mion's sprite having breasts is no issue because she's supposed to be 12 in Himatsubushi, so it makes total sense. The original sprites are vague enough that you can tell Mion is meant to have big tits but you can also look at her sprite and assume they are kinda small compared to her weird R07 body. This is genius because it makes the sprite work for both 12yo and 17yo Mion, while also revealing her intended age through visuals.

He goes a step further and makes tons of boob jokes in Umineko, only to make Shannon's tits eextremely important to the mystery. I don't need to explain this part. There's even a panel in the manga where Beatrice is surprised by her tits after the web of red scene, which hints at her real form being completely flat.

Higanbana never states which grade the characters are in, but the presence of younger kids that can't understand the "evil intent" of animal abusers, and the fact that the lolis have budding breasts in their sprites, makes it obvious they are all in the final grade of elementary school. Ryuukishi does it again, without saying a word. I've seen people read the entire story thinking they were high schoolers or some shit and it baffles me. Didn't Ryu make their ages clear with the sprites and their behavior, you silly goats?

RGD is all about the tits. ALL about the tits. All the best characters have big tits, the Battler expy is here grabbing tits, and Primavera only exists because women can sell their bodies and make money while men remain poor and unemployed.

Ciconia looks promising in the tits department so far. Plenty of characters have amazing racks and one of the themes of the story is birth/motherhood.

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>>22773076
I'm talking about George, not about the siblings. George doesn't have a motive in Lion's world.

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>>22778412
> Rika and Mion appear here, five years earlier, with their regular sprites.
What. Rika indeed appears, but Mion? Pretty sure she doesn't.

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>>22778483
We see her talking to her grandma about the missing kid.

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>>22778412
>The original sprites are vague enough that you can tell Mion is meant to have big tits but you can also look at her sprite and assume they are kinda small compared to her weird R07 body.
This is so true. Not only are the expressions vague and can be used in multiple different situations to convey different emotions, the bodies themselves are also super vague.

All that subtlety is lost with all the other sprite sets because they just make their own version of Ryukishi's expressions without making them vague enough to fit all instances where that expression is used. So you have MG Mion looking bizarrely developed in Arc 4 or Rena looking flustered in a situation where it doesn't make any sense (while the original looked perfect because her flustered face was vague and could also convey other emotions). It's a copy-paste job that doesn't pay any attention to how the new sprites work in context. That's the big issue with them.

It kinda happens in Umineko too, although to a much less extent. For example, Shannon's basic smiling face is not only used to portray genuine smiles, but also resignation or maturity when the scene calls for it. The PS3 version of that same smile is less vague and you can't really see anything other than an earnest, innocent smile there. So when the exact same expression is used to convey those other emotions in a scene, it doesn't quite work because her face looks genuinely happy no matter what. This didn't happen with the original sprite, which has enough subtlety that you could look at the exact same facial expression in different contexts and get different vibes from it. That's what Ryuukishi intended and the new artists failed to replicate. They just made their own versions and used them in the same places as the original, but the expressions only work for their first appearances and not for different contexts.

I won't even talk about Maria because they got absolutely everything wrong with her faces.

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>>22778488
I didn't say that right.
I know she appears in Hima as a younger girl, she got a console sprite after all, but I don't remember her OG sprite being used in the original. Just doesn't sound it would work, Rika was barely passable honestly.

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>>22778496
Wow, I lost track of the point I wanted to get across. I was gonna say that Rika's original body is vague enough you could see her as a toddler or as short loli. The updated art is more human in its proportions and loses that vagueness. That's why they were forced to make a mini-Rika sprite for that arc.

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>>22778506
It was there.

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>>22778506
She does appear in the OG. And I think her spirite works perfectly fine because of all the things I described above.

The one you posted looks a bit off to me because she really shouldn't look so damn young. She's supposed to be 12, not 8. It's not even about the lack of breasts, it's also her general body proportions. It looks off to me. She looks younger than present time Rika, even though she's supposed to be slightly older (which her dialogue/behavior in that TIP and her original sprite make perfectly clear).

Her original sprite works because she's not 10. She's a tween and her sprite is vague enough that you could interpret her as looking 12 or looking 17. Seriously, look at the OG sprite for all the club members. They are vague enough that Rena's sprite could be used during her flashbacks and it wouldn't seem out of place.

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>>22778412
For you, how old are all the Higurashi characters?

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>>22778549
>casual clothes Mion with her big boobs clearly showing
>this is supposed to be a 12 years old
Ryukishi really would have been better off not showing her.

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How do I get started? What's the deal with the steam version (and that "hou")? Should I just download it?

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How would you guys rank the WTC Steam ports compared to their original releases?

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>>22778496

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>>22775127
About time someone delved deeper into the Ciconia-Haworthia connection, really nice theory anon. It sounds pretty plausible.

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>>22778565
Keiichi is 16.

Satoshi could be Keiichi's age or a year older. Doesn't really matter.

Shmion are almost 17 (stated to be almost a year older than K1 but not quite, more like 9 or 10 months, and Mion is doing her entrance exams after the epilogue).

Rena is 15 (she mentions that her birthday is in April and that she's a year younger than K1 but will be the same age for a while after her birthday).

Satoko is almost 12 (her birthday is after Watanagashi).

Rika is 11. She's just flat and short as fuck. And she acts younger to the point she'd get bullied to death in Higanabana because she's trying WAY too hard to hide her 100 year old personality. This is what makes brainlets assume she's 8 or something even though it's explicitly pointed out that she's faking her cute loli persona to the point it makes her come off as autistic. She has no idea how unnatural it looks, and Rena finds it cute, so she keeps at it.

Irie is... 30-ish.

Takano is 34 because why not. But she's probably a bit younger than that.

Tomitake is in his mid-30s.

Ooishi is 64 or whatever the age of retirement was at the time.

The ages are never stated, but they do mention their birthdays and whether someone is a year older or younger. And if you analyze the Himatsubushi arc, which takes place 5 years earlier, you can find out Mion and Rika's ages by logical deduction. The adults are the only ones whose ages I kinda made up, but it makes sense. And Ooishi's age is logical because he's retiring that year.

Umineko is a lot easier to figure out.

Kinzo is in his late 70s. He was in his late 30s during the flashback.

Krauss is in his early 50s. Natsuhi is stated to be three year younger than Eva, so probably in her very late 40s. Jessica is 18.

Eva and Hideyoshi are probably both 50. George is 23.

Rudolf and Kyrie are in their mid-40s. Battler is 18.

Rosa is in her early to mid 30s. Maria is 9.

Genji is probably around Kinzo's age because they were buddies as kids. So late 70s, not quite 80.

Kumasawa is pushing 80 as someone said in the story.

Yasu is 19 but officially 16 but also 1000.

And Ikuko is probably in her mid to late 20s when she finds Batora.

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>>22778432
you have right i have different ideas:
>george fall in love with lion but her fell in love with battler
>without shannon he never grow as a man, get depressed and when he found 2 billion of yen and a bomb decide to take back his life
>without shannon to destroy eva and george relationship george take place in eva murder paln after her discover the gold and the bomb.

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>>22778760
rest in peace, comrade

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>>22777388
Theyre important for the spoonfeeding narrative.

>>22778412
Aye, glad someone else is talking about it from the medical/psychological standpoint.

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>>22778745
is that screenshot from the official crossover?

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>>22778745
Slight correction, Rena's birthday is in July, Keiichi's is in April.

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>>22778855
no

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>>22778876
it's just a random fanmade shot with no context then?

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>>22778881
yes

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>>22778888
Too bad.

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>>22778432
>George doesn't have a motive in Lion's world.
This. He also has no reason to stop being a fedora tier cunt because he explicitly said that his love for Shannon and jealousy of Battler's loli waifu is what made him change into the man he's now. Dating Shannon also changed him, which can't happen in this world. The George in Lion's world is an impossibility.

Lion's golden hair, voice, androgynous appearance, perfect life and opinions about gender are also an idealization imagined by Yasu, not a real depiction of what "Lion" would've been like without the accident. In reality he would've been a normal male.

The world itself is clearly full of actual magic, golden roses, a meta dude walking around, Shannon and Kanon coexisting with Lion, people remembering the seating order from a different world, etc. And is made up of pieces of different fragments. It's not a proper parallel world, but rather a fantasy. A wishful dream.

The way the world ends according to Bernkastel makes no sense because there's nobody in the underground room to tell Kyrie about the bomb or hand her a 1 billion yen card, which is necessary to make her decide to complete the massacre.

The reason Bern can make Lion's world end like that is because she previously showed them the truth of the catbox (EP7 Tea Party). By exposing that, and by the very nature of the catbox itself, it's guaranteed that Lion's world cannot end well. Not because it makes sense for things to go wrong there, but because his world is an illusion, equivalent to one of Beato's depictions of magic. The world is forced to end in tragedy regardless of logic because the island exploded IRL. Even this fantasy world can't escape the catbox.

And the reason Lion is allowed to escape with Will by simply "not acknowledging that he's been shot" is because his world is a fantasy. Fantasy doesn't have to be restricted by reality, mystery rules, red truth, or the beginning and end of the catbox. That's why Lion can survive and reject Berns bullshit.

Bern is also lying when she says that out of all the fragments Lion only exists in one and is killed by Kyrie. If this were a proper world, ignoring the obvious magic bullshit and inconsistencies, there would be endless alternate versions of it where events happen differently. How can she claim that Lion only exists in this one fragment? How come there are no worlds where Lion exists and nothing happens? It's because Lion isn't a thing. Or at least this idealized Lion, in this fantasy world. Everything about him and his world is fantasy. Not only did it not happen IRL, but in fact this Lion isn't even how the real person would've turned out. He's an idealization by Yasu. He's fantasy by his very nature, and so is his world. That's why Bernkastel can so easily deny his existence in the entire sea of fragments. He's just not a thing. The EP7 world is an illusion. Lion is no different from the seven stakes. But because of that, he doesn't have to listen Bern or be constrained by reality or the truth.

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>>22778412
>https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/201709.php
Wait, so Satoko's brain is telling her super pathetic human body "listen up, we gotta grow breasts early so we can attract a male partner who will provide for us and protect us from danger, because it seems we are lacking a male figure right now"? Her brain is unconsciously kicking off puberty early because it notices the absence of a father figure in her life and the anxiety caused by it?

Pathetic! Satoko's human body, barely evolved from the times of cavemen!

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>>22778881
Yes, but there is an exclusive sprite of Genji smiling. It totally out of character and hilarious.

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>>22779026
post it

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>>22778980
>kinzo admit that he enjoy rape daughters
>Williard ask lion what sex he is?
>lion replay: is really important?

lion is a girl who was forced to dress like a man to not be raped by his father\grandpa.
so a cute tomboy

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>>22778980
Also, Lion is not necessarily male. Sure, the real Lion would been a dude. Too bad he never had a chance to exist.

The idealized Lion we meet in EP7 is an intentionally ambiguous FANTASY character imagine by Yasu, who wasn't too comfortable with their original sex but also was unsure of what gender even felt right to them.

Yasu is an eunuch since they were a baby, so apart from having XY chromosomes that don't really do anything here, they are literally a genderless, underdeveloped, adult-sized prepubescent person with no hormones or physical traits of either sex. They lost their junk as a shapeless baby before their body even began to shape them into either sex.

So it's not really that gay to fuck Shannon. She has no hormones of either sex and no development whatsoever. Even young kids look different depending on their sex. If you saw a cross-dressing 5 year old, you would probably notice small signs he's a male. It would be very convincing, but he'd look slightly different from an actual loli. Shannon, however, has 0% development. She was just a baby at the time, so her original sex didn't really do anything. It's similar to how ALL humans are female in the womb before becoming a male later on during the pregnancy or remaining female until the end.

My point is that female Lion needs more porn because that's the point of the character. The Lion we meet in EP7 is by no means an accurate portrayal of a hypothetical non-castrated Yasu, but rather a fantasy creature like Kinzo's ghost or the Chiesters. Either gender can be valid when it comes to porn or fanart, because this Lion is supposed to be a catbox regardless of the real Lion's gender.

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>>22779034
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/3376836

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>>22778980
>>22779172
Why do guys try to explain EVERYTHING without magic? I don't see why we can just assume that Lion's World is a possible fragment as it is

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ERIKA DUMBEST DETECTIVE EVER
>kanon or shannon missing
>erika:we are all here

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>>22779138
Why do sjws assume that Kinzo violently raped his daughter?

The guy just raised her to genuinely believe in magic at age 20 and groomed her into thinking it's a normal thing to fuck your father figure. She wasn't raped or traumatized by it, whether she liked it or not. It wasn't a big deal for her. She didn't even know that she had a baby.

You can call that "statutory rape" or whatever because Beatrice wasn't mentally equipped to decide anything for herself and got taken advantage of. You can call Kinzo a monster for raising his daughter in a prison and not teaching her critical thinking, making her essentially an invalid. You can call Kinzo a piece of shit for making her pregnant. Or for not thinking about her future after he and his accomplices die of old age.

But seriously, at no point is it ever implied that Kinzo maliciously "raped" his daughter out of lust, or that she was traumatized by the act at all. He has no reason to act that way. And his friends wouldn't keep supporting him if he was clearly harming his daughter.

His actions are immoral because he basically molded Beatrice into becoming the person he desired and didn't let her develop like a normal person. All so he could have a copy of his waifu and love her all over again.

Kinzo violated her human rights and it's fucked up, but he "raped" her and she never felt "raped". It was consensual but in a bullshit way because he raised her without an understanding of what consent even is.

So yeah, Kinzo crippled her mentally just so he could have his perfect waifu that doesn't even know how to doubt and lives in happy ignorance of the real world. That's selfish and immoral, even if that was a happy existence in Kinzo's eyes.

But he didn't technically rape her. She just consented out of ignorance and didn't think much of it afterwards. Sex only damages you physically if you are forced into it. She consented and was fucked gently. And it only damages you mentally if you feel humiliated, forced or used. Which doesn't apply here either because she had no concept of shame associated to sex or nudity. It wasn't a big deal to her.

She wanted to escape with Rosa because she probably felt that Kinzo's love was directed at the wrong person and got really fed up with it. You can't really love an old dude you are not attracted to, no matter how gentle or loving he is. She wanted to be left alone and see the world beyond the fence.

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>>22779286
Did you even read the post? I literally did the opposite: explaining Lion's world with magic. Because that's obviously the author intent.

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>>22779480
Sorry, mate, I just misquoted you. I was referring to the other anon :)

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>>22779573
No problem. Let's support the puppet strings from both sides.

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Ready to draw your fortune?

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If Hanyuu is so innocent... how come she's got something as lewd as an arse?

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>>22778980
>The way the world ends according to Bernkastel makes no sense because there's nobody in the underground room to tell Kyrie about the bomb or hand her a 1 billion yen card, which is necessary to make her decide to complete the massacre.

Not really. The discussion was about the succession, which aparently kicked off the plan to kill everyone. We aren't giving any details but there is a possibility that it still could have happened.

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>tfw human Hanyuu was probably in her early 20s when she got watanagashi'd by her daughter because back then people had kids at age 12
Lewd! Materialized loli Hanyuu is so cute, and yet she was that exact same age when she first got fucked by her husband

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>>22779630
twitter?

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>>22779803
What does Kyrie get out of killing everybody? She's extremely logical, so she wouldn't commit to a nonsense plan.

She has no reason to kill anyone in the gold room because there is no cash card to steal. All she has to do is restrain and turn in the person who shot first.

If there is no cash card prepared by Yasu, all she has is the gold. But that will get buried in the explosion. And if she's not aware of the bomb, why go around killing everyone else if she has no guaranteed way to erase the evidence?

She either saves the gold and gets arrested for mass murder or destroys the gold and gets nothing out of the whole deal. Kyrie wouldn't do something so illogical.

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>>22779845
Yup, sadly.
https://twitter.com/uminequadrillio/status/1216742566869135362

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>>22779896
Actually, Kinzo knew about the gold and he could have told them. Then everything could have gone as the real world.

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>>22779994
By the way, I'm not trying that the massacre in Lion's world definitely happened. Bern is just trying to shit on Beato. I'm just stating that there is a possibility that it still could have happened.

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>>22774772
Who would win a dance competition?

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>>22779803
Sure, it could make logical sense. But the world itself is explicitly fantastic, filled with real magic, out of place characters like Shannon and Kanon, and characters who act like in the regular worlds even though Yasu's existence played a key role in their personalities and attitudes (which couldn't have happened here).

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Mariaは

Sheは

She kinda just literally fuckingは

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>>22780624
Those are some very nice contours.

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>>22778585
I am not deluded rainfag so I rate steam versions higher

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>>22778585
The steam sprites suck, they are the worst. But it's worth it if you use the ps3 patch

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there so few RGD albums? Were the tracks royalty-free or something?

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>>22780624
holy shit i'm a big fan of you, please do more tatsumaki

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>>22780624
My wife.

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Satoko a cute

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>>22779469
I agree that there's no evidence that he violently raped her, but now you've gone too far the other way around.
The whole point of Beatrice 2's character is that even she realizes that her love for her Father is not the same kind of love her Father gives her. Bernkastle literally shows her doubting it at the end of EP7 in a flash of red.

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>>22778580
Anyone?

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>>22782525
just read the steam version. Just takes the Hou as a "final edition" title, it's the original but with updated translation and new engine. It also has a finished mod with voices.

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>>22782534
Got it, thank you for answering. One last thing, I noticed that a lot of translations have been made. Is there a way to import one of those to the steam version (I'm french)? I can read it in English but that would make the experience more enjoyable to read it in my native language for sure (considering the french translation isn't too bad).

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>>22783000
The team doing the mod with voices is making an extra mod that replaces the english tl by the french one, not sure how far it is.
Not sure where it's available, ask them directly on their discord maybe.
http://07th-mod.com/home/

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>>22783022
Thank you anon!

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>>22774786
italianon can i ask you something

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>>22783611
everything

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>>22780105
But what about the predicate, Ryukishi?

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>>22783656
why did you leave please join back we miss you

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>>22783999
>>22783656
c'mon we're gonna ban the trannygrammer if you join

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>>22779469
>Why do sjws assume that Kinzo violently raped his daughter?
Either because they're projecting or because they're retarded. Everything you've said in your post is correct

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>>22784146
i want one

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>>22775742
What a loser!

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>>22781147
ALL of Erika's sprites in the Steam version had to be redrawn from sratch because Ryuukishi apparently lost the master files of her sprites and couldn't use them to make high resolution versions for the Steam release. It's like when episode 16 of Evangelion got lost and you can tell its bluray version looks much worse than all the others.

So Erika's OG sprites on Steam are technically different from the originals, although you can only tell the difference if you compare them side by side.

I have no idea how this even happened.

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>>22781147
Rain isn't that big of a deal, but it is important for setting the atmosphere. It's much weaker with static rain painted over the backgrounds.

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>>22784146
Any plans to do Satoko in her birthday suit?

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>>22784548
Bullshit. That’s clearly the same drawing with higher resolution in your gif. A redrawn pne would have more differences.

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The translation in the Steam version is far better than the original release with the witch hunt patch which automatically makes it better than the original.

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>>22784610
ok retard

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>>22784737
It's the truth though, the translation is superior. The most important part is better.

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>>22785014
dumb anon the rain is obviously more important than the text.

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>>22784579
The blush is completely different in the new one, since you can't trace a gradient effect like that so easily. The rest of it is just a very high-quality trace job.

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>>22785138
Do you even have an actual source for that? I’m not convinced, it’s too similar.

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>>22785174
It's blatantly obvious if you just compare the blush. Not that it matters either way.

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>>22785231
No I meant a source for the thing about losing the files of Erika.

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I'm so glad HE has finally moved on somewhere else.

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>>22786168
who?

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Erika !

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>>22786265
Battler missed out.

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What's your opinion about Rose Guns Days? I was thinking about reading it

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witches are created by humans.

Eva-Beatrice= Eva culprit theory.
Eva being the only survivor was immediately accused of the murder, people started making up stories and that's how the witch was born.
the third game was a test for battler\tohya.
most likely he had discovered that eva was alive and the stories about ev culprit so ikuko created a game where eva looked like the culprit so battler to find the truth would have to go beyond appearances.

Bernkastle= Kyrie culprit theory..
After discovery of illegal activities of rudolf and kyrie people began to create stories where kyrie was the real culprit of rokkenjima and so bernkastle was born.
This explains why Bern is so attached to Ange and wants to see her suffer so much, from the very beginning the theory that Kyrie was guilty of ruining Ange's life.

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>>22786336
>Bernkastel=Kyrie culprit theory
Quite a stretch, Erikanon. We know for sure Evatrice represents the Eva culprit theory, just like Beatrice might represent the witch culprit theory and Black Battler represents the Battler family culprit theory, but making Bernkastel or Lambda be representations of culprit theories too seems like too much. First of all, the patron is broken as soon as the rest are totally obvious and they aren't. And more important in my opinion, they are referred to as a different kind of witches in the narrative itself, aren't they? Shouldn't that mean something?

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>>22786376
yes i am not sure about bern and lambda witches createed by humans.
first of all I don't know how to classify lambda.
lambda knows the solution from the beginning and always helps battler and beatrice during the game, she was really rooting for battler to remember yasu.
lambda seems like beato's best friend or at least the only person beatrice could confide in.
for bernkastle is another story, i know very well who could be, the truth that in the seventh game she showed us ,the story that people created when they got bored of eva culprit.
this explains a lot about his relationship with ange and then bern is similar to kyrie.
but I admit that I am dubious this game is called when they cry and "bern" appears in higurashi so say that bern was created in umineko is too risky.
(theory about lambda if bern and kyrie maybe lambda is asumo, or witch hunting or why not internet lambda are us)

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>>22786482
>>22786376

now that i think about it

kyrie said that asumo death was a miracle.
so a miracle kill asumo.
if asumo is lambda , the witch of miracle defaut lambda like in higurashi.

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>>22786334
I really like it. Season 1 is kinda weak because it doesn't quite make you care about the characters enough, but it's a lot of fun on a reread.

I definitely recommend it.

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Been progressing pretty well the last two days on the sprites inkings.
Was feeling like trying to record some clips in real time if some anons are interested:
https://twitter.com/thegoldensmurf/status/1217211606494535680?s=21

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>>22779826
Dumb anon, she's an oni, so she obviously starting fucking around way before she married at 12.

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>tfw you realize Entergram will keep Kinzo as a cuck in the switch/PS4 release as well
fuck
How does that even work plot-wise? Does Beatrice just get hit up by some random jap in Odawara?

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Since Higurashi is getting anime remake do you think seacats will also get one?

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>>22781179
RGD used a lot of unused Umineko music so most of the tracks that aren't on the three OSTs are on other albums.

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>>22779251
This would be hot if it was drawn well

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I wish there was Rosa x Maria porn
Child abuse is a massive turn on

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>>22786879
draw porn and I will subscribe to your patreon

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>>22787719
What's the point when you can have sexual bullying between lolis?

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>>22787719
there's nothing cool, funny or hot about child abuse, anon. we all lose our shit when our kids do something very humiliating, like those fortnite dances.

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>>22787719
EP2 Rosa is willing to kill her own family members for money, so I'm sure that secretly recording Maria's in the bath with a spy camera and selling it to some shady lolicons through Rudolf and Kyrie's yakuza connections wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

I wouldn't put it past Rosa. It's actually a pretty tame way of paying off her debt compared to helping the crazy meido kill everyone.

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>>22787931
That's way too tame. Rosa would totally whore Maria out to her lovers so they don't abandon her. It happens all the time IRL too.
Who would even pay for footage of Maria in the bath?

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>>22787967
Maria retreating into her own mind and imagining magically tearing men apart while they have sex with her!

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>>22787967
>Rosa would totally whore Maria out to her lovers
Who? Incel George? 99% of men are moralcucks that would immediately refuse and call the police.

>Who would even pay for footage of Maria in the bath?
Some classmate who had a crush on Maria, 10 years into the future. Bath footage would be too tame for anyone who doesn't know her personally, but a former classmate would consider it a treasure.

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>>22788138
Would Rosa record Battler popping Maria's Cherry?

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I've just been rereading parts of Umineko 1 and it's actually crazy how many hints it has. I think it's genuinely possible to solve it from that episode alone. Very unlikely, but possible. The only thing you can't fully "solve" is the bomb thing since that's kind of guess work and even if you think of it you can't be certain it's correct, but even that is hinted towards when it talks about "body parts" being found by the police and the idea of everyone dying at midnight.

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>>22788189
The best part of rereading the first two episodes is that you get to understand the culprit as a character through the way she writes other characters. You can tell she feels bad for Natsuhi despite everything, sees Rosa as a hypocritical bitch and doesn't know what to even think of Kinzo so he's written as this rambling lunatic that hates his family to an absurd degree.

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>>22788138
This is like saying, "How do you even be a drug dealer? Everyone will just be a good person and not buy drugs!"

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>>22788138
I'm trying to construct a fantasy where Maria gets whored out to George, maybe when George is bitter over being cucked, but I don't see what Rosa would get out of it.

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>>22788138
>Who?
Me?

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>>22788189
The culprits are pretty obvious when you have several scenes in a row talking about how the culprit wants everyone to believe in the witch, and then you have Battler talk to all the servants who believe the witch exists. The only thing throwing you off is that Kanon doesn't seem to know why Shannon died.

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>>22786879
Really cool. I like seeing the process that goess into making these drawings. It gives me hope that I could one day give it a shot myself...

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I've noticed that people tend to consider Shannon to be the real Yasu. They take her monologues, inner thoughts and conversations with Kanon/Beatrice at face value.

In reality, Shannon is just as much of a made up fantasy character as the other two. She is intentionally written as her own person, unaware of what Kanon or Beatrice might be thinking or planning. But that's just a narration trick just like all the other falsified scenes.

Like, the whole love duel thing has meaning for Shannon and Kanon because they are fictional characters. The narrative portrays them as their own people, so they are totally unaware of the fact that the result of the duel is meaningless because Beatrice is about to kill everyone on October 5th.

The human culprit doesn't care about which one of the two personas "wins" at any point during those two days, because they intend to end it all anyway. Yasu doesn't seriously have any internal conflict over which servant should become her main identity by the time the typhoon seals the island. The characters of Shannon and Kanon care about it, within the fictional narrative, but the actual person acting out these personas and committing the crime is already determined to end it all. That's why Beatrice always wins no matter how much Shannon and Kanon oppose her. In Yasu's script, Beatrice's character is written to be the victor.

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>>22788246
"Before this night ends...... I'll grab the culprit by the collar!! UUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

>several scenes earlier, Battler grabbed Kanon by the collar

Come in, it's obvious in hindsight.

The only difficult part is figuring out that the accomplices change in each game and that not all of them know the full extent of the culprit's plan. Some of them are made to believe it's all fake. Like Eva/Hideyoshi or Kumasawa, who get bribed to take part in this "prank".

Hell, EP5 has several levels of depth regarding accomplices:

-George and Jessica have been told it's all an innocent prank and hide in the underground tunnels after vanishing.

-The adults and a reluctant Battler have been bribed by Yasu to help frame Natsuhi in these fake murders to make her confess Kinzo's death and her crimes.

-The servants are in cahoots with Natsuhi but secretly have betrayed her to help Yasu/the adults.

-Erika (her piece, not the meta version) has fallen for the deception and is convinced Natsuhi did it. The detective's authority even makes sense in-universe because Erika is an useful idiot that will help them corner Natsuhi, that's why a the adults let her do as she pleases and investigate to her heart's content.

-And Yasu is a vengeful bastard in this game, who is betraying absolutely everybody, murdered Krauss and plans to kill them all with an explosion after making Natsuhi suffer. Her bribery and promise to expose Natsuhi with this farce is all an excuse. She intends to get people killed for real.

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>>22788355
How the fuck are you supposed to figure any of that out about episode 5?

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>>22788355
EP5 is SUPER obvious looking back. You have shit like Eva smiling smugly when she corners Natsuhi with the receipt in Kinzo's study. Even though her fucking son got murdered hours before. Or Rudolf goofing around and singing during the ladder scene.

It's clear that something is up with these fucking people. As if they know it's all a farce and nobody is really dead, so they occasionally slip up and forget to keep up the grieving act. But on a first read, you totally believe everything and don't pay it much mind.

Same with Eva in EP1, who smiles and debates mystery shit with Battler after they find a bizarre murder scene in the gardening shed. It's obvious that she's been told it's all fake corpses or makeup and has been promised lots of gold if she gets Battler to engage with the mystery and try to solve it. She even gets a romantic scene with Hideyoshi later on where they talk about going in vacation and shit, as if they suddenly didn't have any money troubles, as if six people hadn't just been brutally murdered.

Or Rosa is EP2, who could easily shoot everyone to death but needs to keep up the charade a bit longer because the culprit wants Battler to tackle the mystery. All she can do is take charge and facilitate Yasu's murders as an accomplice, because she can't kill anyone in front of Maria if she plans to escape with the money and rebuild their life. Little did she know that Yasu had killed herself for real in Natsuhi's room and never intended to keep her promise to guide Rosa into Kuwadorian before midnight.

This plot point of Rosa not wanting to kill in front of Maria is even brought back in EP7 when Kyrie is worried about Battler noticing something suspicious and reporting his parents to the authorities later on. It's the same thing.

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>>22788355
The PS3 version of EP5 fucked up the man from 19 years ago's voice.

It was supposed to be Yasu during the first phone call and Battler during the other two on the gameboard proper. Both playing the character of this mysterious man. But they made Battler's voice actor incredibly obvious and even inserted him into the first phone call where he didn't belong and contradicts the description of his voice.

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>>22788355
This also explains how Battler and Erika solved the epitaph even though it was literally their first time seeing it and the adults had been trying for years.

It's not that Battler is some super genius capable of such a feat. His piece was able to "solve it" because the entire thing was part of the murder mystery setup aimed at Erika and Natsuhi. He was fed the solution by Yasu beforehand, the adults went on and on about it to get Erika interested, and Battler basically guided her reasoning the whole time, pretending to figure things out when he already had the solution.

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>>22788484
This can best be seen at the end with him directing her to the lion statues, saying he "saw Kinzo" in the rain.

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>>22788484
Another interesting thing about EP5 is that Erika's piece never heard about Kanon. He and Shannon spend the whole time together and everyone treats them like a single person. This includes Erika, who was probably seeing Shannon the whole time and Kanon didn't exist for her. Her meta version is aware of all the pieces and gets tricked by fake scenes like the one in the parlor, narrated by Battler. But in-universe, within the reality of the gameboard, no Kanon existed for Erika.

Ironically, meta-Erika has no idea about this because she was perceiving the "absolutely everyone is here" scene in the parlor from the meta, through Battler's skewed perspective. That why neither version of Erika noticed Kanon's absence when everyone reunited in the parlor. Meta Erika saw Kanon and Shannon there as part of the fake narration and in-universe Erika only saw Shannon. No other young servant existed on the island as far as she knew, so she agreed that "everyone" except Kinzo was in the parlor.

Not that it matters because there are no Shkanon shenanigans at all in EP5's mystery. And all the adults see only Shannon when she reveals herself as the family head and proposes the plan to frame Natsuhi. The only Shkanon trick in EP5 is just the fact that the audience sees them together the entire fucking time in front of the entire family, making us believe they are different people. But in the gameboard itself, there are no such tricks. Kanon isn't even really there as far as everyone is concerned, he only shows up as part of Yasu in fictional scenes that never took place as depicted, taking turns with Shannon to voice Yasu's lines in order to trick the reader.

Hell, there is even a scene where Erika tells Shannon and Kanon to close the parlor door so she can accuse Natsuhi, and they both say "Yes" with a strange eunuch-ass voice that is neither Shannon's nor Kanon's. It's not even them talking at the same time like in other parts of the episode. It's a single person talking, with a totally unique voice that mixes both of their voices perfectly.

That's probably the only time in the entire series that we get to hear Yasu's natural voice, not filtered through Kanon/Shannon's personas.

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>>22788278
THIS

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>>22788278
Yes, they are all characters Yasu has created, but they're also personas that Yasu has lived their life as. Like, even if Shannon is just an idealized image in Yasu's head, they spent enough years roleplaying as her on a day-to-day basis that it became almost real. Same with Kanon. While he initially exists just to shoulder the repressed angst and vent Yasu's frustrations, after falling in love with Jessica Yasu starts to genuinely yearn for a life and a future as him.

>Yasu doesn't seriously have any internal conflict over which servant should become her main identity by the time the typhoon seals the island.
Only because by that point they'd already given up on a future as either of them. But even when putting everything into motion Yasu still had hope deep down that such a future was possible, which is why they were always urging people to solve the riddle of the epitaph and put a stop to them. Had George or Jessica managed to do so, I think Yasu would have given up and decided to live their life with them as either Shannon or Kanon.

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>>22788189
I love the part where Krauss literally says Kinzo is dead in his very first appearance, only for it to be taken as metaphorical.

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>>22788386
battler said george and company are alive
wait but erika didnt inspect them?
erika is the culprit.
>>22788355
>everyone is the culprit again
anon so for you this isnt mental gymnasyum and george culprit and erika accomplice yes
cmon

>>22788447
>r Rosa is EP2, who could easily shoot everyone to death
because she wasnt the culprit
she discover that servants lied about kinzo death so she wanted save her family from them.
but as usual, appearances count, and since she beats her daughter and doesn't trust people, she's the culprit.
>ame with Eva in EP1, who smiles and debates mystery shit with Battler
no one of her family died and become ushiromiya heir so like battler she tried to figure out the culprit.

>>22788460
erika with kanon voice call natsuhi
>>22788484
lambda said that was impossible discover kinzo native land from the game so erika knew the solution from the start

>>22788597
>meta-Erika has no idea about this because she was perceiving the "absolutely everyone is here" scene in the parlor from the meta, through Battler's skewed perspective.
erika is the detective everything she said is real .
how i know that?
before erika entered in the parlor gohda ordered kanon to serve the tea but when she entered was gohda to serve the tea meanwhile kanon , according to battler, was near the wall alone with a souless face.
then when battler saw kinzo erika was looking away, so battler can see lie only without erika.
everything shkanontrice cant explaine without meta erikantrice explaine it without meat

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>>22788827
>their
Stopped reading right there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22789032
Why?

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>>22789032
based

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[Anonymous No.]

>>22788597
Clues must be presented to the "detective". They weren't. Actually, everyone should have introduced themself to Erika to make it "fair". Since Bernkastel is the detective and all necessary hints were given through the meta, the mystery basically extends to the meta-verse. Why? If the crime was faked it must be shown. People like to skip this fact when Erika voluntary skipped the investigation.
Sorry to say this but Erikatrice has a strong point here and it implies Erika was just "playing" detective and this implies piece Erika is a voluntary accomplice or is one of Yasu's personas to play a double game with the adults.
The narration obviously lies about the authority. First Bernkastel, not Erika, said she had the authority. Second, how can everyone being an accomplice bend to the detectives authority.

I think the right way to solve EP5 was to prove Natsuhi's innocents by disproving wrong evidences and questioning red truths, not by presenting another possible culprit. I don't see no real validity in a possible crime which includes a time trick and wasn't shown. In other words Battler hasn't to be right to understand the game.

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>>22789737
>Clues must be presented to the "detective". They weren't. Actually, everyone should have introduced themself to Erika to make it "fair". Since Bernkastel is the detective and all necessary hints were given through the meta, the mystery basically extends to the meta-verse. Why? If the crime was faked it must be shown.
Clues don't have to be painfully obvious. They just have to exist. And I'd say that the family's bizarre attitude that switches between grieving and smiling at the drop of a hat... totally counts as a clue that maybe the murders were faked.

Erika had her clue. It was fair game. She was just a sociopath and failed to notice how unnatural these behaviors were in a supposedly grieving family that has lost their children.

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>>22789737
>Second, how can everyone being an accomplice bend to the detectives authority.
Because they are accomplices to what they think is a fake, victimless "crime". So humoring this wannabe detective and encouraging her to pin down Natsuhi is perfect for their plans. This is the explanation behind her "magical" detective authority within the story. They just let her do as she pleased because it benefited them.

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>>22789808
so all the natsuhi scenes were an act for you?
Her fear for the 19th man, her concern for her husband but especially her tears, how can you say it's all fake?
red truth:Aunt Natsuhi is pure and faithful! I won't permit this vulgar tale you're all so fond of!!!
Battler's real goal was to go against everything and everyone and find the truth, prove Natsuhi's innocence.

>everyone is the culprit:
where is the love in this, what reason do relatives have to kill each other by order of yasu when the gold was discovered, what reason does erika have to hate jessica and natsuhi so much.
you're not explaining this,
without love you can't see it

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>>22789572
Very nice linework. Love the level of detail on the frills. The skindentation on her breasts from the uniform's cup is also really tantalizing. It makes me wish more of the girls had some exposed cleavage so we could see more of your renditions.

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>>22790114
Mion also got some cleavage for her swimsuit sprite. Aside from that, nothing much, yeah. Maybe I’ll consider doing edits later.

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>>22790155
Speaking of which, I actually made an edit of your Mion sprite. I got inspired to do so after seeing your Rena PE sprite with the semi-transparent top. The polka-dot pattern on the bra is based on the watanagashi manga where Shion flashes it at Keiichi.

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>>22790169
Heh, nice, works pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22790169
Version 2, with even more transparency.

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>>22790175
Thanks. I tried to pay careful attention to things like the folds of the clothes in order to make the transparency look more realistic. The idea itself is pretty reasonable too honestly, given how hot it must be there in the summer and how strenuous some of their club activities are. I could definitely see this happening to Mion's white dress shirt after a while.

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>>22790155
Oh! I hadn't seen this one yet. Looks great! I love how you can make out pretty much every contour of her figure, leaving little to the imagination. And I'd love to see such edits once the main sprites are taken care of.

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>>22790205
>Oh! I hadn't seen this one yet.
Yeah first time I was posting it.

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>>22790227
Nice. Great work as always.I like how you can even kinda make out the faint bump of what could be her nipple, yet it's kept subtle enough to not be too distracting.

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>>22790175
I also tried adding the bra you did for Rena's PE clothes to her casual ones, though it was a much simpler case than the edit with Mion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22790379
I really love your work. I'm not a fan of the oversized chests desu but if you finish it completly one day, I'll play Higurashi again with your sprites gladly

[Anonymous No.]

>>22790575
The exaggerated chests are nice. Not only is it hot, it feels like a way of getting even with the Alchemist sprites after they made everyone's curves so muted.

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>>22790575
Well, I don't feel like they're really oversized depending on what version you pick. A bunch of people were using the Alchemist sprites as reference which are very tame so yeah, but the manga is something else.

Like I ended up giving a cleavage to Mion's school swimsuit >>22790155 based on the manga look.

[Anonymous No.]

Umineko is just The Witch and The Lighthouse combined

[Anonymous No.]

>>22790996
umineko is just weekend at bernie's and split combined

[Anonymous No.]

>>22790996
Umineko is just lots of real and magical monster tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22787719
>>22787931
>>22787967
>>22788078
>>22788138
>>22788183
>>22788239
>>22788240

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>>22791635
Range ban for every single one of them when?

[Anonymous No.]

do you think there is a chance to see the console arcs adapted with the new higurashi anime coming soon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22791742
If it happens I would rather see the Hinamizawa console arcs in priority.
And Hanyu’s arc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22791742
I would rather play those console arcs than watch them as an anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22791873
they're being translated by the 07th mod group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22791960
Who? Also the Switch or the PS3 version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22791984
> Who
I answered already.
And Switch I believe.

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>>22791990
It says PS3 not Switch here
https://github.com/07th-mod/higurashi-console-arcs/

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>>22792003
the ps3 assets are in 720p.
The switch assets are in 1080p.
The assets in their mod is in 1080p. They also have the switch assets since they gave me a link. If you're that curious just ask them.

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>>22792008
Yeah I will. I'm mostly interested in the Switch release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22792009
Is there even any differences?

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>>22792009
>>22792014
1080p instead of 720p and the content from the exclusive arcs to the Switch version.

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>>22792022

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>>22791873
what are you waiting for then ? they're all translated, excepted for Miotsukushi-hen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22792128
Waiting for someone to make a Let's Play walkthrough for them on YouTube because I suck at installing.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>22792170
theres literally an installer that does it all for you: https://github.com/07th-mod/python-patcher/releases

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>>22792128
>excepted for Miotsukushi-hen
not 100% true, as there's also the other Miotsukushi and Kotohogushi (plus the console Hou arcs, but these can still make it via official)

[Anonymous No.]

>>22792298
now those are some inconsistent tits
also kek @ alchemist removing the tattoo for reasons

[Anonymous No.]

>>22792362
Do you mean Miotsukushi Kizuna and Miotsukushi Matsuri are different arcs ?
And what about the console Hou arcs ? Which ones ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22792362
Are the console Hou arcs different from the original Hou and the nu-PC releases by MG?

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>>22775847
>>22775852
>>22775811
>>22776160

looks like shit. learn how anatomy works

[Anonymous No.]

Dunno if it existed, but did a stitch of older Satoko from Kira ep2.

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>>22792488
Kizuna Miotsukushi had additional scenes with the Kizuna characters (Natsumi, Tomoe etc.); in the PS3 release they split the two arcs into Miotsukishi Omote (PS2) and Miotsukushi Ura (DS scenes)
The Hou arcs are: Hinamizawa Bus Stop, Outbreak and Kamikashimashi (Outbreak's sequel which... is certainly an experience)

>>22792499
I forgot they were also released in the initial Hou release for PC because I'm retarded
though since Matsuribayashi will apparently be released in like 2035 who knows if these will be translated anytime soon (we still get Saikoroshi before them)

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>>22792362
Are the Rei arcs included in the PS3 version or are they completely different from the OG version?

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>>22792509
Nice work anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22792598
Saikoroshi is the same, Hirukowashi was slightly altered because when it was released in Kizuna it was set after Meakashi, so no Hanyuu (also Delicious got done dirty), and Batsukoishi was cut because it was kind of shit, replaced spiritually by Hajisarashi

[Anonymous No.]

>>22792685
Yeah, I'm thinking I'll stick with the original Rei then. I was gonna sacrifice Ryukishi's OG art for a proper English translation of Rei but apparently the Rei arcs have been tampered with. Not worth it.

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>>22792724
bear in mind though that the PC release included the original three arcs, and the changes were only in the Switch/PS4 port (they have the same name, but are essentially two different releases, with PC having the original 12+3 new, and consoles having Sui's 20+3 new+Batsukoishi), so it's likely the MG release will have the original versions
also I don't have that particular port, so I can't say if the Hirukowashi in it is the original or Alchemist's

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>>22792550
The Hou has been fan translated though.
Okay thanks. So the Miotsukushi arc which is being translated by 07th Mod is the complete story or just the PS3 one ?

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>>22792807
yeah but I meant the official release, every arc was more or less translated
07th mod is currently translating the original Miotsukushi (Omote), so just the Matsuri/PS2 arc - bear in mind, it's absolutely gigantic in size, and the DS scenes/Ura is much shorter in comparison - though only the group will know whether they'll be doing it once they're done with Omote

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>>22792843
I'm truly hyped for Miotsukushi. I hope Keiichi and Rena do something this time.

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>>22792724
Rei and Hou are fan translated, but they all have awful machine translations except for Saikoroshi which was done by a real person and is actually pretty well translated barring a few awkward phrases.

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>>22792903
>but they all have awful machine translations
I thought as long as they are readable I'd play the fan translated Rei but machine translations? That's fucking retarded.
I think MG's Hou includes the original sprites, right? I'll just wait for them to release it then, hopefully sometime in my lifetime, whenever that is.

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>>22793029
At least read Hinamizawa Bus Stop, it's short and readable.

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>>22793105
Whenever MG release it, I won't trust fan translations anymore.

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>>22774772
I played and finished Umineko back in Oct of last year and holy shit not only was it fucking awesome but holy shit I want Beatrice to fucking rape me, shit in my mouth, and laugh musically while doing so. I went from hating her in a good way, to liking her with that character development in ep 3, to FUCKING HATING HER at the end of ep 3 because I was 100% blindsided by the betrayal, to loving her with ep 4 and beyond.

Did anyone else follow this similar emotional path or is this just me.

https://youtu.be/r3BUxQNgbyo

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>>22793405
chiru?

[Anonymous No.]

is collection anon around ? How do you buy your japanese doujins ? I want to buy some as well but it seems complicated.

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>>22793405
I love people's reactions to EP3's ending

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>>22793405
I still remember the raw HATE at the end of episode 3. Pure white hate. I can still feel it to this day...

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>>22793029
Dude, Saikoroshi is perfectly fine and probably better than whatever shitty translation MG will put out in 2036. It's also the proper epilogue to the main story.

Everything else in Rei is machine translated, but it's just goofy non-canon stuff. Hou is more interesting lore-wise and Hinamizawa Bus Stop is great, but the entire thing is machine translated.

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>>22778203
>>22778412
This is why I love /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22793617
It's funny the first few times

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>>22793498
Not him but should I read Hinamizawa Bus before Saikoroshi?

[Anonymous No.]

Trannies no Naku Koro Ni

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>>22793819
Saikoroshi is basically arc 9 and finishes Rika's character arc. It's a much more fitting ending to the story, so I don't understand why so many people finish Matsuribayashi and leave it there.

Bus Stop is a VN adaptation of Ryuukishi's original play script that he wrote before Higurashi, before he decided to turn it into Onikakushi. It's a weird beta version of Higurashi narrated like a play that somehow spoils every single major plot point of Higurashi, all within a bus stop during a rainy day. It's pretty crazy. The characters are very different (all played by mysterious silhouettes of Higurashi characters) and the syndrome is even creepier because the brain bugs can be seen with the naked eye and make people hallucinate even harder. The secret organizations are more fucked up and Oyashiro-sama is scary as hell. It's feels like a Junji Ito story, especially the way it ends.

I don't really like the manga or console versions because I prefer the expy silhouettes rather than completely new character designs. Especially for Rika and Mion, who look the same age in the original because it's just a slightly older Rika and a slightly younger Mion with an airhead personality, making both of them 14 or so. The adaptations make Rika look way too mature, which doesn't fit with the PC sprites. I always imagined a middle school version of the usual Rika, which is exactly what her silhouette sprite implies.

Anyway, Bus Stop is very interesting but the machine translation makes it a mess to follow

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>>22788189
I mean, yeah, The fact that Kanon is Beatrice is solvable. The bomb and Shkanon aren't fair game yet though.

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>>22794066
>reading that whole section about not-Akasaka getting bullied because he shit himself in class
>all machine translated
That was almost as confusing as the mahjong matches.

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>>22779015
That's one hell of a literal cute Jessica.

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>>22794066
I've finished Higurashi years ago and don't remember the ending very well and going through the VN again would take more time than I'm willing to throw. Do you know the best adaptations that follow the original VN but not as long?

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>>22794283
The VNs are probably shorter than what you remember, and nothing really replaces them. If you must, though:
Option 1: read either the manga in japanese or the yen press release, the scanlations aren't very good
Option 2: unironically watch the anime
Option 3: manga scanlation if you are out of options

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>>22793840
after Umineko and Ciconia I can't help but suspect someone in Hinamizawa is a tranny

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>>22792509
thats a shapely satako

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>>22794336
If it was certain that one character from Higurashi is a tranny who most likely would it be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22794529
Keiichi in Higurashi: Afterstory

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>>22794529
Rena or Mion, probably.

I'm more interested in figuring out who is the dorky Lewis Carroll pedo of Ciconia, after Irie and George. Does Mariana count?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22794529
Rena

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>>22794529
I wouldn't hate a Higurashi tranny character, because they would live in 80s Japan. That's a pretty bad time and place for a tranny to live in, so it can even make the tranny sympathetic.

Modern western culture goes to the opposite extreme and turns 99% of trannies into disgusting, narcissistic, anti-free speech, irrational, puritan pieces of shit. That's why anyone with half a brain dislikes them. But they love to play the victim and accuse you of hating them for simply being trannies.

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>>22794591
Ohhhh, how about this: Shion was born a male, but since he was androgenous, he could switch with Mion a lot before she hit puberty and grew boobs. Then the tattoo incident happened. Shion had to live as Mion now, but to actually live as Mion, he had to become trans. Underwent the surgery, takes hormones, breast implants maybe.

Original Mion would then have to pretend that shes a trans Shion since she still has some contact with the family.

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>>22795056
I could see Mion giving up on being perceived as a girl and going full reverse trap to hide her femine side. And maybe kinda wishing she had a dick too because it's much easier to masturbate with.

I could see Rena buying into all this genderfluid nonsense as an edgy self-harming emo teen and going around claiming she's "non-binary" because she's not your stereotypical bimbo. And then looking back on those cringy years during the main story and feeling intense shame.

Thank god none of this would happen in the 80s.

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>>22795186
>because she's not your stereotypical bimbo
go to bed, Rena

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Maria was on her way to become the next Chris Chan. She was practically high functioning, but Rosa's pride and refusal to admit that she's a special needs kid would eventually ruin her. Just like Chris' parents totally fucked him up with their neglect.

It was a mercy kill. Yasu did nothing wrong.

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>>22796163
>no fragment where Rosa comes to her senses after a brutal beating and realizes she just fucking killed her daughter and has to cover it up

>no fragment where Maria grows into a relatively functional adult but secretly beats and threatens her aging mother to pay her back for all the abuse

Which one would be the most fucked up?

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>>22796190
I honestly expected a scenario like that after EP2. I totally expected her to go too far and kill Maria on accident.

Then again, I also suspected that Rena was fucking her own father for years before Rina came along because she felt guilty about the divorce and wanted to make him happy with her hairy cunny. I was genuinely surprised when nothing of the sort was revealed.

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>>22796190
This theory works for Rokkenjima Prime. Rosa accidentally killed Maria during a beating and had to bury her rotten corpse somewhere. Probably in the backyard of her company building or some shit. But the family conference was scheduled for next week, so she traced a plan and painstakingly cut off a piece of Maria's jaw before burying her. She took that with her in her suitcase and went to the family conference, claiming she had left Maria with a neighbor. She was probably planning to kill everyone to hide the fact that Maria didn't come to the island, blame a mysterious 19th person for the crimes and put Maria's jaw somewhere to make it seem like the sick fuck killer chopped her corpse into pieces and ran into the forest with the other parts. She was probably pondering how to silence Kawabata and the plane pilot afterwards, but Yasu started the ceremony and blew everything up anyway.

Maria never existed on the island. Every scene with her is a fake because the witnesses never lived to tell a third party about Maria's absence.

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>>22796290
What if

WHAT IF

What if Eva went to the island completely alone and bribed Kawabata to stay silent? What if all the Ushiromiyas planned to fake their deaths to escape their massive debts and had Eva blow up the island alone, pretending the family had been in the mansion and not hiding somewhere in a third world country?

It's a silly theory, but I think it would definitely work without any contradictions. Ange was sure that everyone was dead, but what if they all ran with their money and were living to the fullest in the Bahamas? And Tohya is either lying about everything, including his supposed brain damage, or isn't even Battler and just an actor hired to get Ange to stop investigating?

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>>22796331
>the entire premise of the story is itself a fake testimony spanning two days
>the entirety of the gameboard is a giant fake scene like the letter and the knock
Damn.

[Anonymous No.]

Kanon didnt exist in game 5.

before erika's arrival, gohda ordered kanon to serve tea but when erika entered the room it was gohda serving it and instead kanon was in a corner of the room alone (according to battler).
during the whole game it is as if kanon did not exist, he did the housework that in the other games kanon was gohda but especially every time kanon spoke everyone ignored him except erika.
erika is the only person talking to kanon, kanon only exists in the detective's thought dimension, which explains why erika didn't notice that kanon or shannon didn't exist.
>Much of

the narrative is all meta even what the detective sees and says.
Then this is no longer a mystery.
Knox's 8th: It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.
There must be clues to solve a case we need a detective who sees only the truth so that we can formulate theories, if the detective told or saw lies then you could not solve the mystery.
then
>muh everyone is the culprit
Knox's 6th
It is forbidden for accident or intuition to be employed as a detective technique.
there is no evidence that yasu has convinced everyone to cooperate intuition is not evidence even if there is no scene to prove it.

erika accomplice is the only explanation for the 5th game, and to make sense of natsuhi scenes because to say that all her suffering is false is heresy against the mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

It seems illogical that Battler's scenes were used to create Natsuhi culprit theory. Krauss returned to the Dining Room and this implies everyone in the Dining Room lied. I would say this was the scene where Battler could prove he was lying. Kinzo could be hanging dead near the chapel.

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>>22794591
>who is the dorky Lewis Carroll pedo of Ciconia
I mean, Tomitake is kind of tiptoeing a line between 'clingy father' and 'FBI I have an emergency'
skipping him, Gun is doing the good old tactics of 'haha, you're 14? I am too, what a coincidence, let's spend a lot of sweaty time together'

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>>22796663
everyone in the dining room can lied for one reason, to strengthen battler's position as head of the family not necessarily for the murder.
example erika admitted she made a deal with eva, so erika may have given the ring to eva and suggested the fake letter to humiliate natsuhi.

then kanon\erika you can knock from the inside and pretend found the letter

[Anonymous No.]

GUYS kanon put kinzo on the the ceiling of the hallway.
at 24.00 with an X trick the hans of kinzo body hit the door.
kanon open the door ,kanon opened the door, pretended to find the letter and hid kinzo with a Y trick.

THIS IS THE REAL SOLUTION

[Anonymous No.]

UMINEKO EP 1-4

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>>22798087
END OF THE GOLDEN WITCH

[Anonymous No.]

>>22787270
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22798087
he had a twin brother or he used a secret passage

[Anonymous No.]

>>22796229
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>22798766
I'm not sure about the details but Yasu isn't the result of monstruous incest in the PS3 version, if what anon says is correct, then I guess Kuwadorian Beatrice is Original Beatrice's daughter but not Kinzo's, he just raised her when his lover died
...which ends up being exactly the same because he would STILL be her father, even if not biologically, and would STILL be grooming this kid since birth

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>>22799373

>he used a secret passage
Knox's 3rd
It is forbidden for hidden passages to exist.

>he had a twin brother
Knox's 1st
It is forbidden for the culprit to be anyone not mentioned in the early part of the story.

The trial is now FINISHED. FINISHED. FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED! <Die the Death>! <Sentence to Death>!!<The Great Equalizer is Death>!!

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine if Rosa got tired of all her shitty relationships and just decided to make out with Maria and finger her while moaning with happiness.

[Anonymous No.]

Finished Alliance of the Golden Witch and I still have no idea what's going on. All I know is that Battler isn't Asumu's kid, but rather Kyrie's, Eva was the culprit in Banquet, and Battler might be the culprit in Alliance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22799815
No point in spoilering text here anon, in fact you shouldn't read too much since we all justassume everyone else finished Umineko years ago.
Anyways
>Battler isn't Asumu's kid, but rather Kyrie's
Yeah. It isn't really very important to the overall plot though.
>Eva was the culprit in Banquet
Not exactly. She kills people but the main culprit is the same in the 4 games. If you want to know a little more, Eva didn't kill the first twilight victims, Nanjo, George and well Hideyoshi but he wasn't killed by the main culprit either anyways
>Battler might be the culprit in Alliance
lol no, doesn't Beatrice (the culprit dressing as her anyways) just literally appears in Kinzo's window and talks to Battler?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22799815
>>22799876
Also you should really try to think hard of a main culprit for EP1-4 if you want to understand stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22799892
The only ideas I have for culprit candidates are the servants, given how outside of Maria and Rosa, they are the only ones who see/interact with Beatrice from parts 1-4.

[Anonymous No.]

wew EP6 was worse than I remembered, some threads ago I was shocked some anon could say even Himatsubushi was better, but you were right anon, you were right
>Silent hill Battler scenes end up being dumb since it was all just Battler's keikaku anyway
>Ikuko and Ange's plot is uninteresting and goes nowhere
>The game interrupted AGAIN, and this time it was meant to be Battler's proof that he undestood everything, what the fuck
>Although to be honest the game was super dumb anyway, so better this wa
>Love battles are nonsense if you don't know the truth but are redundant and boring as heck if you know it, so it's lose/lose
>Why are they killing their family seriously
>Actually it makes no thematic sense at all to conect the love battles with the first twilight, this was honestly the best you could do, Battler?
>The witch sisters' plot seems like it COULD get interesting but nope, they just get into the love battle (but do nothing), and the elder becomes a non character after she first appears anyway
I have a lot of trouble with Chick Beato not being original Beato but being her at the same time, to be honest. The parallel Chick-Kuwadorian makes it very disgusting too. I don't think it works very well.
Literally, the only good parts are Erika trolling Battler and the weeding crash. And I admit they are very good. But those can't be all you have in an entire novel.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm halfway through ep6 and I still haven't solved the Epitaph, am I retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22800037
It's difficult to solve, especially if you aren't nip and if you aren't trying to ACTUALLY solve it (like, investigating old maps, just looking at it and thinking the answer will come by itself doesn't work).
Ultimately it's unimportant though. It leads to some mechanism in the letters of the chapel, you remove them and twist them in a certain fashion and stairs to the basement appear, the gold is there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22799975
well, try to construct solutions to the murders with them, anon, also think about the motive

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best mod settings for Himatsubushi? OST Remake Yes/No? BGM Fix Yes/No? SE Fix Yes/No?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22800037
Why are you trying to solve the epitaph? It won't lead you to any truths, only to the mechanism to unlock the gold, which is only useful if you are a character in the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22800106
Yes on all becase mangagamer is retarded.

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>>22799815
I didn't really "get it" until it basically tells you, and honestly I got mad. I think the solution to the murders themselves is retarded and implausible. There's a meta explanation, but it doesn't make the solution any more satisfying. I had jokingly thought of the answer way back in chapter two in the same way that you might think "what would happen if I just drove off this cliff?" while driving. The solution to the mystery is easily the worst part of Umineko.

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>>22800016
The problem with the wedding scene is that it WAS the entire novel. Ryukishi's always been kind of bad with pacing, and it's exemplified with this scene (as well as the trial in episode 5). Erika is a good character, but there's only so many hours of gloating I can read before becoming annoyed. The first time I read chapter 6, I remember being unable to enjoy the payoff "happy ending" because I was just waiting for something else to go wrong. He seriously needs a good editor to get rid of the ellipses and to keep him from getting bogged down in redundant shit, something that happens a LOT in Chiru.

[Anonymous No.]

Just how humiliatable is Jessica's butt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22800037
Lambda in ep 5 said that is impossible to find kinzo native land in the game.
Hint use the thing on the mansion parlor door in the ep 3
>>22800016
Reread it with erika=kanon

[Anonymous No.]

Sadly I used to think the new Beato Battler had created was accomodated to like him. There wasn't a definite word from the old Beatrice (EP1-4). Which means the relationship was just pure fantasy even in the meta world, it feels like a love fanfiction with your favourite character. It makes me sad I cannot read the full episodes of 5 and 6. I can guess what could happen but I think Ryukishi had trouble to write further after the suspense reached the climax.
Natsuhi didn't confessed about Kinzo? Shit we put so much work into it.
Erika won't undo the chainlock for eternity? Guys we have the culprit!
Unless there is a new turning point after the game endings these games will naturally end before the final twilight. The true art of thinking is to think through the end and consider how the culprit will act after the ending.
Erikatrice can statisfy a continue of the "perfect murder plan" game

[Anonymous No.]

>>22801171
sorry anon i forgot to put perfect murden plan in my manifesto
now i will put in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22801222
You'll write possible real endings? Nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22801561
yes this is a theory
In umineko you have to trust only the red truths and what the detective sees so I can't be sure what the truth is.
like the blue truth is better to fire many shots than just one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22800647
Looking at Ciconia it doesn't seem like he got better

[Anonymous No.]

>>22801171
Anon I have no idea what you intended to convey with this post

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[Anonymous No.]

>>22802695
Kanon looks like THAT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22802725
Anything's possible with a little magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22802725
She is not kanon
Kanon is a cute tomboy with a flat cute chest!!!!
The first time i saw kanon i thought she was a woman then when i discover that she was a man I immediately thought that she was beatrice and was pretending to be a man, so I always suspected from the second game that kanon was beatrice
in many anime and manga you had seen similar girls pretending to be man

[Anonymous No.]

>>22802972
she's also a girl pretending to be a man in shkanontrice, erikanon

[Anonymous No.]

I have seen some good Sayo=Ikuko points and, even if I have some (personal?) troubles with it, I'd like to believe it to be a real possibility. My biggest problem with the theory, though, and this isn't something I think can be overlooked, is that I really don't see how Featherine's behaviour is supposed to be related to it. She doesn't act like she was one of Sayo's personas at all, does she?
>EP6
Supposedly still trying to understand the mystery.
>EP7
Why would she need to prove her answers if she is already Sayo?
>EP8
Sayo what the fuck are you doing.
So how do you people connect Featherine's bullshit with her being Sayo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22802980
Nope is different
Shannon ruined everything
Kanon is an importan character in the game, he have many important parts.
He is the man who always fight beatrice,he literrally disappier in every game but shannon what?
Is a personality-less big tits shy girl
Literrally hinata-tier she didnt had no important scenes only scenes related with george.
>Muh george i love you,
>muh eva didnt want approve my >marriage with george,
>beatrice i will fight you for save george
Without george shannon character didnt have sense instead how i can accept her as culprit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22798087
>no human could have moved the rock blocking the entrance
>no human
>not no humans
The twelve apostles moved the rock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22803005
>Supposedly still trying to understand the mystery.
if ikuko=yasu then ep 6 was written by battler
ep 6 was battler proof to make ikuko understand that he discover all the truth this is confimed by the last sentence of ikuko
>i never read something not written by myself
ikuko made ange read dawn so ikuko didnt read dawn

>Why would she need to prove her answers if she is already Sayo?
ikuko wanted to confess
her press conference was used by her to confess that her was the culprit of rokkenjima mystery.
if ange choice trick ending ikuko after years of pain confess and then problaby killed herself
but if ange choice magic ending she stop everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22798087
REPEAT IT IN RED! "Immediately after placing Jesus in the tomb, with him still being there, the rock blocking the entrance was put there"! It's possible for Jesus' body to be stolen before the rock was put!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22803139
>ep 6 was battler proof to make ikuko understand that he discover all the truth this is confimed by the last sentence of ikuko
curious, was last sentence do you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22803462
i remember that ikuko said:
>i never read something not written by myself
before ange leave.

[Anonymous No.]

The humiliation of a lewd ass lolee kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22798087
Simple stuff. Jesus was not placed in the tomb because Jesus wasn't dead.

Can you repeat in red that Jesus died?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22801222
I intended to speak about weak points in the story and why we reader should think about these. Maybe they are intended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22778506
Alchemist faces always look like fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.]

The exposedforeveryonetoseeness of Houjou Satoko! Pathetic!

[Anonymous No.]

Can you try not filling in the subject box in the next thread? Leaving the "07thExpansion thread" thing out?

That seems to be the reason none of the previous two threads have been archived on warosu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22806525
I wasn't aware it wasn't archived. Just make sure to put it in the message instead so it's still easy to find.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22806602
That may not even be the reason, maybe warosu is just fucking up for some reason. But neither this thread nor the last were archived.

Warosu seems to have stopped archiving shit from /jp/ for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22806704
Uh oh. I hope it gets fixed soon before anything important gets lost. It'd really suck if we got some more news on the anime for example and the initial reactions weren't preserved.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Gunhild have no ass?

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>>22807216
r07 spent all these years learning how to draw big tits somewhat better that he forgot all about the ass

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>>22807246
She traded it in to invest more points in boobs

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>>22807216
traitor ass

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>>22807216
So that Chloe would have no competition for fattest ass in Ciconia

The first time someone posted a picture of her hips here, I thought it was an edit. No, she just naturally has an ass that can occupy an entire man's lap and then some

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>>22807442
Which is pretty unfair considering she also has the biggest chest.

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>>22807474
W-what was deleted?

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>>22807216
Too much dignity and smug. Chloe is a humiliatee and she's got a pretty nice ass.

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>>22807216
It may be flat, but she does have one. Thats why she's conspiring to turn everyone into brains in jars. She hates having an arse because that's pretty pathetic.

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>>22807825
Just some talk of Chloe's hips

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>>22807216
>>22807246
>>22807296
The future is all about boobs anyway.

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>>22807216
Pretty sure she poops. She's simply pathetic.

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>>22808370
I want to breed Chloe!