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>>22346686
ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO PART 1 COMPLETED:pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
THE SOLUTION OF THE FIRST 4 GAMES ARE OUT ENJOY
send your opinion,doubt critique to me i will use them for improve my manifesto.

AHEM......
Rudolf was the one who opened the kinzo's room from the window, why not erika?
because erika knew that the windows were closed and therefore it was useless going to check them.
how did she know that?
because she had sealed them with tape.
erika's plan was to humiliate natsuhi by making everyone discover that she had faked kinzo's death but when battler ran against the window she understood his plan and a new idea to humiliate natsuhi even more born!
a betrayal with the father of his husband kinzo.
this is why cornelia knew that the window had never been opened and lambda made her shut up.
it was all her plan to humiliate her mother.
after this moment erika changes, first she was a copy of bernkastle but, after the battle with battler,she becomes a new person not more cold as berkastle but that expresses every feeling in the most raw way without piety and with black humor.
it seems that someone (lambda) had taken Beatrice, removed from her the love for magic, battler and mystery books and left her only with her malice and twisted logic.

booru:erikce.booru.org

I hope the Cairo squad comes into play a bit more in the sequels.

I want the original erika as a character

>>22346761
play umineku saku

>>22346766
How do i do that

>>22346766
This is literally Oliver without the upside down book.

>>22346798
you don't

>>22346798
>learn japanese
>buy a computer
>download utorrent
>search on google umineko saku torrent
>click the first search result
>click on magnet link
>click on ok on the utorrent window
>wait x hours according with your internet speed
>after finish the download go in the umineko saku folder
>click on .exe file
enjoy

>>22346856
that's too long, where can i just find more pictures of male Erika

>>22346700
In the alliance part, 5.3, you wrote this:
>when battler looked at his corpse he saw that he is covered by blood even though he had no visible wounds, this is a great clue given to him by a beatrice: here's the murderer
It's not true. The rain couldn't wash off the blood in the cloths and he described the hole in the forehead. It seems Kanon was gay enough to protecc Battler from George (returning to the Guesthouse it seems if I follow your theory correctly)

HHHHHHHAAAPPPIII HAROWEEEEEEEEENNN

EEEEEEENDO

TORIKKU A TORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITO

>>22347059
>his face wasn't covered with blood
george die
only his face was not covered with blood, if you read well he says that the rest of the body was covered with blood.
kanon killed him with a blow to the head to prevent him from killing battler before the test.

>>22347059
thanks for letting me know
now I've fixed it
if you noticed anything else tell me
you helped me to make my manifesto clearer

>>22347092
It was about the "visible wounds". Whether the blood comes from himself or from others isn't important because almost all deaths are ranged. It's a strange hint from Kanon to say "George has the blood of others on his hands". Or clothes.

Why does Kanamori ignore the cute lolis who have crushes on him and only cares about the dumb nerd he's planning to kill?

>>22346686
https://youtu.be/H0SH4SIEVXc

>>22347200
Why do I always find romaji incredibly cringy no matter what? I can't stand seeing a Japanese word written in roman characters.

I guess it makes me think of weeaboos who try to write in Japanese without using kana.

>>22347207
>not getting a boner at the sight of romaji because it makes you think of an autistic cringeloli who just discovered anime and is looking up the lyrics to a song
Pleb.

>>22347207
don't you want to sing along anonymous

>>22347207
Have you started studying? After getting familiar with kana and kanji even on a basic level, it becomes plainly obvious how disgustingly inefficient romaji is to read. There are way too many characters and the syllable combinations mesh poorly with common english pronunciations. Meanwhile you see a kana and instantly know what sound it produces

>>22347182
George was the only corpse that Battler met before the interview with the witch.
he was in his way to the meeting with the witch
covered by blood but with only a hole in the head.
this for me is like saying "here is the culprit"

>>22347207
Unironically because you're a weeb yourself, romaji is a perfectly acceptable as a mean of transcription - hell it's taught in elementary alongside kana, and it's used by current generations to type (you didn't think they were using other standards than QWERTY, did you?)

>>22347235
>>22347251
My native language has the same pronunciations as Japanese and the same exact vowel sounds, so I can read romaji just fine without fucking up my pronunciation.

I know it's a perfectly acceptable means of transcription. And I myself use it to type on a keyboard. I'm just saying that it looks silly and is associated with surface level weeaboos totally lacking in self-awareness.

>>22347228
I-Is "human condition anon" transforming into "the pathetic immaturity of a loli anon"?

Scary!

Ushiromiya wa maria

hella maria

incredibly maria

so maria

the actual, literal marianess of ushiromiya maria!

>>22347200
Get that sterile shit out of here. Let the pros handle this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sKv0LqgoXU

>erikantrice anon killed the /a/ thread
sasuga

>>22347279
You haven't seen surface-level weebs until you've seen folks trying to kanjify their names despite them reuiring like 4-5 Japanese syllables
Idk, I'm fine because I also don't have to bother thinking which reading will be used, similar to furigana though more accessible to newbies

>>22347297
My witch is golden dreamer
Of magical gore bits
Nothing is on the creature
For Maria in September

Witch is golden dreamer
It's magical Gohda chef
I'm gonna piss in fire
For magical breeding power

In the brewing party
Saw every everything
There he comes, breaking the darkness
Geoooorge in grief

Yo, Master crazy
Saw every everything
In a way, I'm feeling
My broken artichoke

Your witch is golden player
For Maria a golden sweet
You're gonna piss in fire
With Maria witnessing both

And the witch is golden prayer
For Maria is going that way
Rocking on the creature
The magical story goes

Sealing doors in silence
That's really really low
Here it comes, breaking a diaper
Show me lame

Yo, Master crazy
Saw every everything
In a way, you're breaking
My broken artichoke

Witch is golden breaker
Magical golden wing
Rocking on the creature
With Maria who saw them both

Witch is golden breaker
It's magical Gohda chef
I'm gonna piss in fire
For magical breeding power

In the golden party
Sat very very thing
Is the goal breaking the darkness?
George, please

Yo, Master crazy
Saw every everything
In a way, I'm feeling
My broken artichoke

Witch is golden saucer
From Maria she got the sweets
You're gonna piss in fire
Despite it being October

And the witch is golden saucer
Oh Maria, she got away
Posting on that creature
The medical story go

Kill and kill in silence
She practically only wished
Here she comes, breaking a dark pig
Show me lame

Yo, Master crazy
Saw every everything
By the way, you're breaking
My broken artichoke

Kihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi~

These are literally the lyrics. As opposed to figuratively. There is even some Erika foreshadowing in them.

>>22347308
>/a/ thread
There are /a/ threads? I never go there because I assume most of the "fans" will be secondaries who never even touched the Higurashi VN.

>>22347316
Not really. There are rare Umineko threads that have some decent discussion for an hour and then devolve into people who clearly just read the wiki calling it garbage because of a few surface-level elements of the Shkanontrice solution despite that being like 1% of the whole story. Any Higurashi thread just turns into horny loliposting immediately

>>22347310
>Sealing doors in silence
>That's really really low

>>22347328
>Any Higurashi thread just turns into horny loliposting immediately
That's not so bad, but it sucks if they are lewding the cardboard cutouts from the anime instead of the complex HUMAN lolis from the VN.

>>22347308
What thread on /a/
I didnt post nothing on /a/

>>22347341
>Italian anon is a dindu

>>22347347
Never send link
Discord trannies try to destroy my theory

>>22347316
desu at first I was also discussing Umineko on /a/, granted it was back when ep4 was fresh but still , plus it had a pretty active scene like translatorfags that gave me the 4comas (also /seacats/ nvr frgt), also the anime threads were a treat because watching shit anime with /a/ is the only way to do so

>>22347341
nigga >>>/a/195045172 that's the same post you made in this thread

Why did the anime intentionally turn the Rosa banquet scene into a fucking joke? Why did they change it so much?

In the original, Maria said goodbye to Rosa and a goat carried her away to boil her alive and turn her into a delicious roast loli. Rosa went fucking insane and begged Beatrice to spare Maria's life. It was disturbing to see her daughter heading towards certain death. But the anime made it so Maria was already a crazy rolling head laughing her non-existent ass off, just another pre-made sacrifice to torture Rosa and make her eat fucked up shit. It turns a disturbing scene into a total joke.

>>22347374
I wonder if Jessica's 80s bush is golden or not.

>>22347426
because it's bad

>>22347426
I would eat Maria's ass raw. I don't like cooked meat.

>>22347374
thanks anon
he looks like a fan.

>>22347426
>oh shit we have to still include the tea parties and we have 5 minutes of the episode left, let's read them
>blablabla oh Rosa eats Maria got it, mhhmmm oh Battler hits on them and Lambdadelta shows up, sounds good, here's the script director-san

I can't believe there is a creepy ass skeleton inside Jessica's body.

How can she live with herself? She's disgusting and it's no wonder she doesn't have a boyfriend.

>>22347474
Deen is a good studio. I even like the shitty animation in early Higurashi and love the dead eyes everyone had.

The problem is Kon Chiaki, the director. She did a decent job with Higurashi, completely shitting all over it but turning it into an enjoyable gore anime. But when she tried the same trick with Umineko, it was clear that she didn't understand the VN at all. Or Higurashi for that matter.

>>22347652
Cute arse-having human!

>>22347297
Witch is golden bacon

So Shkanontricers are the real goats who stopped thinking? What do you think. Erikatrice sounds plausible. Rosatrice couldn't explain why Erika showed up.

>>22347652
cute fang

>>22347760
> Erikatrice sounds plausible
thanks anon

>Shkanontricers are the real goats who stopped thinking

not all are goats only no one of them find erika=kanon and surrend after reading the manga.

>>22347760
Erika appears because she's Ikako's character that she inserted into the story. It doesn't matter who the culprit is.

>>22347805
>It doesn't matter who the culprit is.
doesn't matter
doesn't matter
doesn't matter
doesn't matter
doesn't matter

EVERYTHING I CANT EXPLAINE IS META
nice goat

>>22347814
I'm not explaining anything. The game flat-out says it.

>>22347897
ERIKANTRICE explaine everything with a human trick on the game board.
so with erikantrice we can separate the worlds of meta and game.

test

>>22347685
With a tinge of sea salt.

>>22347805
>It doesn't matter who the culprit is.
To whom?
>She's Ikuko's character
Her profile in EP6 implies she was a real person who fell out of a boat. I guess she must have been inserted into a few forgeries after her parents publicized it due to the convenient timing.

I don't like skeletons...

>>22348098
>To whom?
Not to any person, to the story as a whole. The identity of the culprit has nothing to do with whether or not Erika is present.
>Her profile in EP6 implies she was a real person who fell out of a boat.
I agree. However, the EP5/6 forgeries were written by Ikuko and Tohya. What happened in unseen forgeries isn't relevant.

>>22348112
Maria has a spooky skeleton inside her body.

What do you think halloween is like in the A3W?

>>22348149
all games were written by ikuko for made battler remeber her.

>>22348352
Explicitly contradicted by the game.

>>22348422
where?

>>22348447
EP1/2 are written by Yasu in the style of Maria's diary, as shown by the forged signature on them.

>>22348462
if ikuko=yasu all is explained

>>22348478
There's nothing to explain. That's the answer. Changing the plain and simple truth to an answer you like better isn't an "explanation."

>>22348489
there are big questions to explaine for you
why ikuko knew everything about rokkenjima?
why she helped battler?
Why she can become a witch?

all of that have only one answare YASU=IKUKO

>>22348498
>why ikuko knew everything about rokkenjima?
Because everyone knew at that point. There was a big investigation and it was of massive public interest. Any additional details she knew came from Tohya since he was there.
>why she helped battler?
Because she wants to. This is a devil's proof.
>Why she can become a witch?
Because Tohya perceived her that way. Being a witch doesn't have any inherent relationship to being Yasu, since non-Yasu characters are also witches.

>>22348531
>Because everyone knew at that point. There was a big investigation and it was of massive public interest. Any additional details she knew came from Tohya since he was there.

Illusion to Illusion you cant unlock a cat-box if the box disappier

>Because she wants to. This is a devil's proof.
KNOX 8

>Because Tohya perceived her that way. Being a witch doesn't have any inherent relationship to being Yasu, since non-Yasu characters are also witches.
meta answare
my theory didnt need nothing of magic or meta just an human trick yasu=ikuko.

>>22348558
No idea what you're talking about anymore. Please learn better English.

Reminder that 8ms are technically Organic Automatas that were on a shorter leash: https://haworthia.home blog/haworthia-booklet/

>>22348573
My theory is that the blue people and those living in Vier's lab are all 8MS beings.

>>22348567
1bit goat argument

battler didnt remember nothing
a fucking bomb destroy all the clue
but ikuko knew what happened so
ikuko is yasu.

your theory said that ikuko was a wtich
my theory deny all the witch as a yasu fantasy

devil proof
no riddle cant be solved without a clue
knox 8

Happy Hallowowowow!

>>22348595
>battler didnt remember nothing
He did though, did you read the EP8 ????
The only thing he doesn't remember clearly is what happened in the boat with Yasu.

>>22348595
I'm not making an argument. I'm saying I don't understand you.

>>22348606
his memory had only recently returned
so ikuko could not write ep 3,4,5

>>22348618
Do you have an explanation, using evidence from the game, why Ikuko wouldn't be able to write EP5?

>>22348622
because battler said that his memory had only recently returned to ange
but in that moment ange was old .
when she was young ikuko tell to her chapter 6
so ikuko wrote chapter 6 before battler remeber anything(this imply even chapter 3,4,5).

>>22348638
Could you explain how, specifically, this was implied? Could you also show me the line where Battler tells Ange that he regained his memory?

>>22348672
ep 8. during the magic ending.
battler,ikuko and ange speak in a resturant.
now i am reread chapter 5 so search you

>>22348680
Please post a screenshot when you find it.

>>22348687
ok waits some weeks i will put this in my manifesto

I don't dislike the ost in ciconia so far, but i do think the themes in umineko allow for more interesting pieces in comparison

>>22348595
>but ikuko knew what happened so
Because she solved ep1 and 2, duh

>>22348889
Ep 1 and 2 are not the reality.
Ikuko knew the reality

>still no fanart of Comrade Mario

My loli cousin wants to go trick or treating but she has no friends!

>>22348910
Tell her she's a fucking loser because she's got an ass.

>>22346686
Dig through the ditches and burn through the witches

>>22349008
If Maria lived in the middle ages, she would be impaled up the ass until she bled from her mouth and then burned at the stake as the entire town mocked her naked figure and threw vegetables at her.

Witches were a big fucking deal back then.

>>22346766
I hate this design. It's like virgilius was made to cuck battler

>>22347496
I mean, I like the anime, but more as a supernatural mystery than the complex story the VN is. It's still miles better than some of the other shit out, especially when you add Kai to the mix.

I don't think it was the director. I just don't think the show had the budget and support to afford making itself longer. There was a surprising amount of attention put into the actual details of the show, (i.e. cues for when hallucinations happen). I think I got most of the themes and solved the mystery after my second watch through.

They had the choice between plot and character and they chose plot, arguably for the best. Umineko failed because there was too much information and too little time to explore it. Was a double whammy.

>>22347310
>George in grief
good

Why is humiliation even something that can happen to humans?

Why did God make lolis so cute only to give them shameful butts?

Is God a pervert?

>>22347297
>>22347310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHYO__6uz6k

>>22348903

>>22347310
What the fuck. The most ridiculous parts fit perfectly.

>>22349416
Yes she is

Lingji was a dirty fucking commie and she got what she deserved. Stupid chink.

>>22346686
Can Battler kill servants?

ハッピーハロウィン

Have a theory: Maria is Mario
She will take 8MS down to 0
She'll make our earth dignified,
And she's fighting on the planet's side

>ywn fuck the ana of Ange's oshiri

I'm fucking the 7 stakes tonight!

>You will never read EP4's tea party for the first time again

reminder dlanor was the original gauntlet knight

>>22350156
>You will never read EP1's tea party for the first time again
>You will never read EP2's tea party for the first time again
>You will never read EP3's tea party for the first time again
>You will never read EP4's tea party for the first time again
>You will never read EP5's tea party for the first time again
>You will never read EP6's tea party for the first time again
>You will never read EP7's tea party for the first time again
>You will never read trick ending for the first time again

PLEASE tell me that there's a piece of Fanart of Beatrice hiding under a box Solid Snake style!

>>22350785
>>22350156
Just stop visiting places that talk about Umineko and in a decade or so you will remember so little it will be like reading them for the first time all over again, ie get the fuck out of this thread and stay gone thanks

How do you feel about Hanyu's difference of design in the manga and Anime?

ok guys now i resolve the letter riddle in the 5th game.
shkanontrice said:muh its all meta everyone is the culprit again so a letter never exist.

ERIKANTRICE:
>erika become kanon
>with shannon enter in the dining hall
>knock from the inside
>he pretended to find the letter in the hallway

your doubts:
letter placement:
red truth:
>Not a single person in the dining hall...no, there's a simpler way to say it. Among all those inside the mansion at 24:00, not a single person placed that letter in the corridor.
>no one in the mansion placed the letter in the hallway.
>No one in the mansion placed the letter in the hallway. This includes doing so by all concepts, such as directly, indirectly, intentionally, coincidentally, and unintentionally.
he just pretended to find the letter in the hallway he never placed it

knock:
red truth:
Let it be known that in addition to Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji, none of those in the dining hall knocked on that door.
In short, this means it was impossible for any character within the mansion to be the source of a knocking

none of those , any character within?
what mean those and within?
red truths:Before the family conference, Erika, George, Jessica, Maria, Nanjo, Gohda, and Kumasawa left the mansion and moved to the guesthouse.
Of those who remain, only Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji were in the second floor corridor, while all others were in the dining hall.

those and within mean people who were in the mansion before family conference!!!!!
this is why lambda didnt say not a single person or no one in the mansion like in the letter placement red truths

and red truth:'To knock' means someone hitting a door with their hand,
knocking from insiede or outside is equal.

>>22350952
In general for the series, nobody seems to agree whether Hanyu is Rika sized or Rena sized.

>>22349078
>I hate this design. It's like virgilius was made to cuck battler
No that's Will.

I was listening to Haworthia track 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3SAOVdMBw&list=PLCXp9wfPXXGa9UCBAqLoC4OhfSqSLFQaO&index=8&t=0s

Maybe "them" are the organic blue automatas that appears here or something similar.

>>22351058
>>knock from the inside
Let it be known that in addition to Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji, none of those in the dining hall knocked on that door.
Not sure what you're trying to say afterwards.

>>22350952
Hot

>>22351469
non of those in the didning hall
non of those
those
why not say all poeple in the mansion
instead lambda said:krauss,natsuhi,genji and those?
simple because those mean the people in the didning room before the family conference
not all the person in the dining room!!!

>>22351495
>why not say all poeple in the mansion
In short, this means it was impossible for any character within the mansion to be the source of a knocking SOUND. ...And 'any character' refers even to unobserved people that no one has noticed.
Additionally, Kanon was sitting with the siblings when the knocking was heard, so it would not be possible for him to knock on the door.

>read a self-help book because I fucked up my life
>the author starts talking about Umineko magic without calling it that
>the power of perspectives, beliefs and inner worlds and how that screws over your view of reality
Bros...I might be turning into a Witch

>>22351384
But Will is literally meant to be Tohya - a person different from Battler, yet with a tinge of him still remaining (the red strand) that got to the heart of the matter and destroyed the illusion of the witch

>>22351495
We already have an a contrario definition of 'those in the dining hall' though:
>Before the family conference, Erika, George, Jessica, Maria, Nanjo, Gohda, and Kumasawa left the mansion and moved to the guesthouse.
>Of those who remain, only Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji were in the second floor corridor, while all others were in the dining hall
Unless you go full 'cousin's room means the entire universe' that means 'all others' were those not mentioned above: Battler, Eva, Hideyoshi, Rudolf, Kyrie, Rosa and The Servant That Did It.
seriously they're all from the same chapter, read the bloody reds before you say something

>>22351509
>lambda speak about the letter
not a single person placed that letter in the corridor.
>lambda speak about the letter
krauss,natsuhi,gengy and no one of those can knock
it was impossible for any character within the mansion to be the source of a knocking SOUND. ...And 'any character' refers even to unobserved people that no one has noticed

lambda in these red truths lists the people to be excluded as she wanted to avoid denying everyone cant knock
and then she use character instead of person
there is weird.


> Kanon was sitting with the siblings when the knocking was heard, so it would not be possible for him to knock on the door.
was kanon to open the door
and remeber that even shannon was with him so the whole scene is meta in shkanontrice.

>>22351512
Go read 'The Secret'

>>22351528
it's right everyone's position is confirmed before the conference
erika once became kanon could enter the dining room without change the meaning of those in the dinign room
knock:
In short, this means it was impossible for any character within the mansion to be the source of a knocking SOUND
the source of the knocking sound was the door not any human!!!!

>>22351533
>lambda in these red truths lists the people to be excluded as she wanted to avoid denying everyone cant knock
>and then she use character instead of person
>there is weird.
I'm not seeing your point.
>was kanon to open the door
>and remeber that even shannon was with him so the whole scene is meta in shkanontrice.
Kanon only opened the door after somebody knocked twice. He was sitting with the sibling before that, so he couldn't knock. The scene is not "meta", it's told from Battler's perspective, and Battler is an accomplice in that game.

>>22351575
lambda said only one red truth for the letter
no one person placed the letter
instead for the knock she said more red truths and not use
no one person knocking.
weird!!!
>Battler's perspective
yes so the knocking was only one made by the inside from kanon.

>>22351570
>the source of the knocking sound was the door not any human!!!!
That's ESL sophistry. Again, "none of those in the dining hall knocked on that door".

>>22351584
>yes so the knocking was only one made by the inside from kanon.
No, there was no knocking at all. Remember, "none of those in the dining hall knocked on that door".

>>22351585
SOUND is written in uppercase this is a clue to lambda.
krauss,natsuhi and genji,none of those in the dining hall knocked on that door

so no krauss or natsuhi or genji in the dining room knocked

>>22351528
Will is the best Umineko husbando, i mean im not gay but if i was i would fuck him.

>no leotards in Ciconia
????
excuse me Ryukishi?

>>22351888
i can't beliece that we have a canon image of Rena bare ass!
I just can't respect her anymore, she's just a pathetic human being who poops, lewd, humiliating!

>>22351512
it's saying umineko magic is good or bad then?

Only mystery anon can save these threads, i miss him.

>>22351893
who?

xth for Maricarmen explosive farts!

>>22351893
he just vanished, i believe that someday he will bring back interesting gameboards again.

I wonder how high school Ange would react to being stripped naked by her bullies and forced to walk around the school like that, her hairy pussy and pathetic ass crack exposed as everyone mocks her. Her decently sized breasts bouncing in a lewd way as someone plays with them. Her naked body being kicked and punched by girls her age as she falls to the floor and starts crying.

I mean, if a witch tortured her to the point of making her faint or scream in agony, that'd be understandable. If a witch killed her entire family in front of her, she'd start crying and screaming in sorrow. But how the fuck would she react when she finds herself butt naked in front of her entire class? It's so unpredictable! It's such an awkward situation, she would probably behave erratically.

On one hand, she'd want to scream, cover herself or try to get away from the bullies. But on the other hand, her life is already ruined and there is no point in fighting back anymore. She may as well enjoy her own humiliation in a twisted way and do everything they tell her to do, being reduced to furniture. Giving up on her humanity and pride is the only way to get over the fact that she's butt naked in front of everyone. Otherwise, she'd have to bear the pain of being so thoroughly humiliated while she still values her dignity.

The unpredictability of a broken Ushiromiya Angste! Lewd! I bet her reaction would be super fun to watch, as her confused mind alternates between trying to preserve her dignity and giving up on it. She may even collapse because the situation is so overwhelming.

Can you imagine reading that whole scene from Ange's perspective? Becoming invested in a character's story and wanting her to succeed only to see her experience a degrading humiliation that crushes all her hopes is the best! It gives the story a bad ending that makes you feel awful, but at the same time you kinda enjoy the trainwreck because it's such an intense scene where you get to see a human being reduced to a worthless piece of meat. Lewd!

Imagine Maria and Mammon seeing all of that. Ange will never be able to have a conversation with them ever again, because she'll be really embarrassed. They witnessed her degradation, they heard her pathetic begging and screaming as one of the bullies forced pencils into her ass while another filmed everything with a 90s video camera.

Umineko is such a lewd series. Ryukishi belongs in a mental institution. What do you think, everyone?

Umineko is very relateable because I also need A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW

>>22352019
would you kill your family for it? this is important

>he wants to be given the D
>he doesn't know

>>22351888
Keep in mind that these are all fictional characters. They only exist in the minds of the readers (while they read the story and for all eternity after reading it). The only way to humiliate a fictional girl is to make her fans aware of her human condition. They are the ones that sustain her existence. She can't exist on her own.

Higanbana has a bunch of lolis and the setting has incredible potential for humiliation. But since nobody seems to have read it or give a shit about it, those lolis barely exist in the minds of the fandom. It's pointless to humiliate someone who barely exists to begin with.

You'll agree that Rena "exists" more than the angsty sweaty loli from Higanbana.

>>22351888
>>22352118
This is why official nudity (like Rena's ass in the Kira season of the anime) is somehow more lewd than any doujin. Not only is this nudity canon, not only is it used as comic relief (using a girl's butt as comic relief makes it more pathetic than using it as fanservice, therefore it's more lewd). It's also more likely to be seen by every single Higurashi fan, unlike doujins which are only read by perverts. Every normie has seen Rena's ass thanks to the anime.

Since she only exists in people's minds, the only way to truly humiliate her is to make people aware of her humiliation. To make more and more people know about this part of Rena. Just like Beatrice did to further her own existence.

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>>22352125
>that part where Rika and Satoko surprise Rena in the bath and see her naked through the window
I wonder if Rika and Satoko were surprised by Renaの80s bush. I wonder if that night Rika and Satoko talked about Rena's hairy pussy. It must be the first bush they've ever seen!

Even during the normal non-fanservice and deadly serious episodes, Rena is hiding a natural teenage bush under her clothes. She looks so cute and cool, but if you removed her clothes you would see her embarrassing, pathetic, developing body! So lewd!

She is not naked, but the fact that she has a human body is just mindblowing! And everyone else can imagine what she looks like naked! They can't see it, but they know for a fact that she has tits, a sweaty butt crack, and a hairy pussy! Isn't that extremely hot? All her friends are aware of that fact, but they never talk about it because there's such a thing as human dignity! Lewd! They are all a bunch of pathetic, disgusting humans pretending they don't look stupid when naked, pretending they don't poop! Even Satoko, whose self-image is through the roof! Lewd!

What would Satoko think if Mion stripped naked in the middle of a club activity? I mean, would Mion's bush surprise her? Does she even know what a grown girl's pussy looks like?

Do Rika and Satoko know about your bush, Rena? Do they know that big girls have bushes? Do they look at you with curiosity and imagine you naked with a cute bush between your legs? How can you laugh at their punishment games even though you have such a shameful bush under your panties and they know it?

And from a meta perspective, Rena is being canonically humiliated by having her ass crack exposed to the audience watching the anime from a higher place of existence. WE are witches mocking her pathetic ass, her human condition!

From another meta perspective, assuming that the All-cast-review sessions from the VN are canon in the anime too, Rena's actress (also named Rena) had to expose her ass for everyone watching Higurashi on TV in-universe, despite being a teenager! That's even more humiliating than being seen by witches from a higher plane.

Her fellow actor friends never got so incredibly butt-naked, only Rena did. They saw it! Their relationship must have changed a bit after that. Maybe they don't bring it up or maybe they make in-jokes about it. Maybe Rena doesn't even mind! I wonder how she felt while filming that scene! I wonder how they convinced her shoot it! I wonder how they got permission from her parents!

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>>22352132
>Anime-Satoko's parents intervened and refused to let her play the Tatarigoroshi scene naked because she's a growing preteen loli with the typical body-image issues, so it would be traumatizing and wreck her self-esteem, on top of making her a target of cruel bullying that would lead her to suicide. Her acting ability would also go to shit during such a crucial scene if she had to do it naked in front of all the cameras

>Anime-Rena was too pure to refuse and her real parents were too busy to pay attention to their daughter's acting career, so she got tricked into getting naked for an unimportant scene in a filler season that isn't even an adaptation of the visual novel. It all came out of the perverted mind of the filler episode's writer, who wanted to see Rena naked and have her shameful ass immortalized forever in the show

Imagine Rena watching the episode on Youtube a few years later, after maturing a bit and growing out of her gullible teenage mindset. Imagine her breaking into tears as she shes her younger, immature self butt-naked in that scene, knowing that the show's copyright holders own those scenes forever and there is nothing she can do to keep the show from being sold on high quality Blu-ray that allows you to see all the pores of her ass in extreme detail.

Someone else has control over the image of her ass, which effectively negates her dignity as a human being. They could put the extremely popular show on TV or Netflix and she wouldn't be able to stop it from happening.

"What the fuck was I thinkiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!" she would scream while clutching her knees and crying bitter tears, cursing her teenage self. She would then read the comments on the video and get super triggered and self-conscious every time someone mentions her nude scene.

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>>22352141
Didn't Ryukishi confirm that all his characters are actors playing different roles? Battler/Butler, Rika/Bern, Satoshi/Sakutaro/Sakunoshin, Natsuhi/Julie, Satoko/Lambda/Meryl, Akihito/Akihito, Okamura-kun/Nonomiya Takeshi... There are some other Rika lookalikes, but they are obviously different actors who just look similar.

That would make the All-Cast-Review sessions in Higurashi the highest level of meta, followed by the sea of fragments, the Umineko metaworld (which seems to be a relatively small cluster of Rokkenjima-related worlds) and finally the individual parallel worlds.

This is pretty mind-blowing. And yes, the canon version of the story, which is the VN, clearly shows that Satoko's actress (Satoko) got butt naked in the third arc and played her role passionately despite being so young. She is incredibly talented.

Higanbana had a teacher rape, photograph and blackmail a schoolgirl. It had elementary school kids ganging up on weak ones and driving them so suicide. It had some of the most fucked up stuff Ryuukishi has ever written.

And yet, it didn't take advantage of the fact that it takes place in the 80s, when lolis were still allowed to appear naked in both mainstream and arthouse films, to explore the concept of Midori (the actress girl from the third chapter) getting bullied to death after doing an innocent nude scene for a movie.

Wasted opportunity, IMO. Especially when Japan still allowed that stuff well past the mid-90s, before being cucked by western influence. It's an interesting idea to explore. How nude scenes can affect the actors in their personal lives, especially when they are young, self-conscious and surrounded by asshole classmates with zero empathy and a desire to bully others.

Although Higanbana seems to take place in the 80s/late 90s, so there's no way Midori's classmates would find out about some obscure film she got butt naked in. Let alone have a VHS tape of the film to show the other classmates.

The world was very different before the internet era.

PLEASE STOP HUMILIATING THE RENA

She's my waifu!

>>22352145
I think you just want to get off to Higanbana, anon.

>>22352132
>the all cast review serssions are the highest level of meta
I buy that.

>>22352141
It's pretty pathetic how Anime-Satoko refused to do the nude scene from the original VN, while Anime-Rena got more nude than her original counterpart.

Pathetic!

It's kind of sad how the longest posts are from the humilliation anon and the one with the most dedication is italian anon, both shitposters
Anyway, thinking about Happy Maria since I saw it in this thread, I didn't remember it was here where it played https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSXYvjrRcW0
The shitty english goes really well with the scene, don't you think?

>>22352169
Maybe it's because humiliation anon has the highest IQ in this thread and Italian anon is the most stubborn autistic retard.

>>22352147
https://www.benardmakaa.com/nor-wonder-how-i-lost-my-wits-oh-caelia-caelia-caelia-shits/

The upsetting thing about anality is that it reveals that all culture, all man’s creative life-ways, are in some basic part of them a fabricated protest against natural reality, a denial of the truth of the human condition, and an attempt to forget the pathetic creature that man is. One of the most stunning parts of Brown’s study was his presentation of anality in Jonathan Swift. The ultimate horror for Swift was the fact that the sublime, the beautiful, and the divine are inextricable from basic animal functions. In the head of the adoring male is the illusion that sublime beauty “is all head and wings, with no bottom to betray” it. In one of Swift’s poems a young man explains the grotesque contradiction that is tearing him apart:

Nor wonder how I lost my Wits;

Oh! Caelia, Caelia, Caelia shits!

In other words, in Swift’s mind there was an absolute contradiction “between the state of being in love and an awareness of the excremental function of the beloved.”

It's certainly lewd to realize that your crush is a human being. It's very hard not to idolize your crush, especially if she is 2D. You can find your waifu so incredibly cute that you wouldn't mind licking her asshole. She is so perfect in your eyes that you can't help but imagine all sorts of disgusting fetishes in an attempt to humanize her, to find something disgusting about her so you can finally stop thinking about her 24/7, agonizing over the fact that you can't be with her.

But those attempts rarely work. Instead of finding the idea of her taking a shit disgusting, you end up finding it hot. The humanization of your waifu often fails to shatter the idea of her being "perfect" and instead makes you feel like you're managed to uncover some embarrassing and lewd secret. "She is human like me, therefore she poops. That is an undeniable fact. I've never seen her doing it, but it's true. She would never talk about it with other people. She has dignity, pride, self-esteem, a nice personality... And yet, she poops when she is alone at home. I know it. And she knows that I know. And I know that she knows that I know. It's only natural. And yet we both pretend not to know. We are only a step away from destroying our dignity with a couple of words, at all times. That's pretty lewd.

It's also pretty lewd that a human girl such as Satoko has control over her asshole.

I mean, humans have no control over their ears, for example. Very few people can move their ears. But the asshole, on the other hand, is something that Satoko is in control of the whole time. 100% of the time! Just like her hands, fingers, tongue, lips or eyes. She can clench her asshole or push air out of it, at any time. She is in total control of her asshole at all times.

Isn't that lewd? It's not just some static body part. She is consciously deciding what to do with it every minute, every second, whether to clench it or just leave it as it is. Even while she talks to someone face to face. Pathetic!

Why do Japanese girl say kimochi and itai all the time in porn? Doesn't kimochi literally means "feeling"? Doesn't itai literally mean "pain" (as in, the noun)?

Just imagine a Japanese chick getting her hairy cunt and ass fucked and saying "OOOH FEELING!! OH FEELING! FEELING! PAIN! FEELING OOOOH FEELING PAIN PAIN PAIN FEELING FEELING FEEEEEELIIIIIING!"

It's absolutely cringeworthy. Is this the kind of humiliation fetish Japs are into? Girls humiliating themselves by saying cringy ass shit instead of being humiliated in more traditional ways?

I mean, it works. It's hot as fuck. This pathetic, hairy, sweaty, naked ass, female human being is saying cringeworthy things that make her sound like a complete fucking retard while her ass and pubes are exposed to the world. But just a few hours earlier, she was a proper human being with a social life, dignity, pride and respect. Nobody could imagine her like this, and yet...

That's what makes humiliation lewd. Japs know what's up.

>>22351888
I-Is this the image that triggers humiliation anon's humiliation program?

He won't stop until all traces of his target's dignity have been destroyed.

>>22352190
The human body is unironically a beautiful work of art, especially a female one. It's genuinely, beautifully well made, a perfectly crafted masterpiece. God is an artist, a genius.

At least until you get to the part where the back loses its noble name. Why do butts look so damn silly? Look at 410's ass cheeks. They just looks fucking stupid and out of place compared to the rest of her body. Not to mention that the ass is associated with farts and excretion, unlike the powerful human legs or the dignified human back.

What would your mother say if she saw you doing this, humiliation anon?

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>>22352199
This is art. Keep it up anon. Ignore the brainlets.

>>22352199
PS3 Satoko looking kinda soulful there. High definition does a lot to make the console designs shine despite their obvious flaws. Compared to this, the PS2 sprite patch is actual garbage.

I collect decades old humiliation pastas from the sea of fragments in Warosu. They are funny and can derail any thread easily, making normies go fucking insane with rage and confusion, unable to understand the truth being revealed to them, the fact that their loli cousins are HUMAN.

I collect them just like I collect Ryuukishi artwork. Human dignity anon left us a great treasure.

>>22352212
Can someone please explain this picture to me, I'm too low iq to understand

>>22352231
Chloe is hinted to be into exhibitionism and self-humiliation. She understands the lewdness of the human condition and does her own VR porn.

I guess anon is implying that she's the opposite of a brainlet, having three brains, two of them inside her big tits because they can't fit in her head.

>>22352228
>that five-part long Rhyme from TWEWY humiliation pasta
Drop that into a Kingdom Hearts thread and all those disney pussies go insane.

Just how many members and copycats does the Order of Humiliation have? Is the grand master, Mindblowing Anon, still alive after all these years?

Just how pathetic does this chink look when stripped of all her fancy clothing?

>>22352241
Chloe finds it easy to post porn of herself online because she's a factory baby with no family, she has no friends, and she's a traitor helping the illuminati destroy the world.

All she wants to do is indulge in her exhibitionism before the time comes to kill Lilja and eat an energy bar as the zombie 8MS kicks in.

>>22352343
I think any girl in the world would become a camwhore slut if she had no family or friends.

This is what Ange should've done instead of killing herself. She has nobody to disappoint. Nobody that she cares about. So she should enjoy her exhibitionism without any shame.

>>22352343
She doesn't post porn of herself, you fucking speedreader. Next you'll say Jestress is Miyao's mother.

She posts next-gen SFM animations with models she imported from somewhere and entire stories about some werewolf and some Bella type girl.

>>22352173
true.

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>>22352199
now this is some IQ, thanks for fixing the thread.

Humiliation anon = Ryukishi

>>22352249
Kairi human condition post are pure fucking gold.

It's weird but thanks to humiliation anon/posters, i'm more confident with my self and it's helping me with my low self esteem.
Now when i see a girl that i like i don't feel inferior, she shits just like me, it's actually pretty pathetic because she's supposed to be cute and clean.

>>22352360
You are the speedreader, dude. That's why you can't read between the lines even when it's so obvious.

She posts VR porn created with her mind alone and then improved with professional-level effects. This is an era where you can record your imagination as a video and edit it however you like.

It's strongly implied that she makes all sorts of porn, not just the furry shit Gunhild asked for. Not only does she create it with her brain, she also uses her own IRL nude model to make the video even more perfect.

>>22352381
I like the ones where he talks about how lewd it is for Namine and Kairi to share a body for so long, only to be split again at the end of KH3. It's such an awkward relationship.

>>22352375
He repeats himself just as much.

Also pic related.

so what the fuck? why did this slutty ass cumdump betrayed her own team?

>>22352392
This but unironically. They mention how anything that happens in the brain can be saved as a file. And they can even imagine the taste of the energy bar as well as they can, saving it as a file for others to experience. Same with the smell of the zombie apocalypse or the adrenaline of the situation. It's all imagined by Chloe and spiced up with effects. She has a great imagination.

>>22352433
I wonder why remembering the taste of a certain dessert isn't enough to calm your desire to eat it.

>>22352181
>there is an entire fucking book about humiliation anon's theory on the human condition
What the hell, this has to be a joke.

>>22352392
She posts VR porns using others model, as she all but begged Miyao to get her another one. Nowhere is it said that she used her own model. She used everyone's models, but certainly not her own. She wouldn't be fishing for other models that hard if she were just whoring herself.

>It's strongly implied that she makes all sorts of porn, not just the furry shit Gunhild asked for.
Yes, but not with her own anatomically correct model. That was never implied, dude.

What's next, the Three Kings are the true villains of Ciconia? Don't put your own speedreading interpretation into the narrative, please.

>>22352463
Admit it, dude. Chloe is a willing humiliatee and a closet slut.

>>22352190
Imagine Bern sex scene and she screaming ITAI ITAI ITAI AAHHHHH like when she was hurted

W-what a l-lewd cat!

LATO more like FART-O
*BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

Why was Bern so soft as the Game Master?

I expected her to turn Maria, Jessica and Ange into a human centipede, eternally swallowing each other's shit. Now that would make Battler despair! I wonder what their relationship would be like after going through that and being released. Probably awkward as hell! Lewd!

If Bern forced me to participate in that disgusting torture, I'd want Maria to be in the front so she can speak and doesn't have to swallow shit. And I'd want to be right behind her. If I have to swallow shit for a thousand years, the punishment is more bearable if it's Maria's shit. Still disgusting, but at least she's cute and you can eventually get used to it. Maybe even enjoy it after you lose your mind.

I wonder how many anons would be willing to sacrifice themselves to ease Maria's suffering. I bet most anons are selfish bastards that would rather be in the front themselves. I pity them, for they have no love. When you love someone, you must be willing to swallow their shit to protect them.

I'd call the meta police on Bern after I get released from that terrible torture, through. I want Bern to be ERASED FROM EXISTENCE. She just keeps doing terrible shit and damaging Rika's reputation.

hell

>>22352514
name her band

>>22352432
she found out Lilja was the traitor and killed her to protecc Miyao
>>22352514
Nice

I just solved that Rika being buttass loli in official Higu content is the true reason why Bern fall into depression

AHEM....
Kanon didnt exist in chapter 5
Everytime he spoke no one respond to him
No one eccept erika
Erika is the only person in the 5th game that speak with kanon
And everytime she speak with him others said to her:"are you listening?"
Like her mind was in different world

So ERIKA=KANON
erika is like LION exist only in this world

>>22352538
I want Satoko to shit on my face.

>>22352519
well with the last or 15th fragment that could be true.

>>22351058
it's kinda sad watching you get objectively proven wrong every time you bring something like this up only to move onto the next mystery instead of correcting your flaws in logic first

>>22352547
Man erika give the ring to kyrie and her faked the discover of the the letter
This solution works but i didnt like it
So i find this other solution that works if you consider those as the people who are im the dining room before the conference

Mfw it's coming back again

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>>22352181
genuine question, what is your point?

Continued working on my Tomitake sprite.

>>22352190
The Japanese language doesn't work the same way as English. If you transliterate certain sentences, they literally sound like caveman speak. That's why it's a pain in the ass to translate.

>>22352495
"I'm sorry, Battler! I can't hold it in any longer! Uu-uu-!!! I'm sorry!!" *farts*

Then, as a very, very natural result, Battler's mouth was filled with Maria's waste.

"UUUUUUOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH"

Battler screamed, trying to withstand the urge to vomit as Maria's essence invaded his mouth. His voiceless scream filled the cathedral.

Shortly after, he lost consciousness and fell like a puppet with its strings cut. A blooming deep-red rose appeared under his body... no, his corpse, and gradually grew larger, filling the room with the smell of iron.

Maria's face was bright red. She looked just like a tomato...... no, like a red apple.

Bernkastel and Lambdadelta cackled with wry smiles on their faces, apparently enjoying the show. It was only natural. After all, they truly were the cruelest witches in the world...... no, the cruelest witches in the universe.

>>22352633
I bet George would willingly join the human centipede because he's desperate to be near a blood-related girl like Maria or Jessica, even if it means getting his lips sewn to her asshole. But the witches would put him behind Battler instead.

George is such a beta cuck that he'd gladly slurp down Battler's shit if there's even the slightest chance that some of it has been inside Maria's prepubescent butt. That's literally the only way a 23 year old virgin like him can enjoy the taste of a cute girl.

Why is George such a cunt? He's more hateable than fucking Erika. Even Kinzo Fritzl is a better person than him.

George will do anything to make contact with a cute girl. If holding her hands or kissing her is not an option, he'd rather lick her asshole than do nothing and remain a virgin. That's how wretched incels are.

fucking degenerates

>>22352633
It's crazy how even the most ridiculous pasta can look like it's part of the script of an Umineko episode. Just by imitating Ryuukishi's unique writing style.

>>22352634
George is a fucking chad
He smash the head of jessica and genji with a kick when they were alive,

>>22352617
I like the expressions.

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>>22352650
I was going the say the same thing, it really looks like a legit Ryukishi VN fragment.

>>22352617
hot.

>>22352735
If I see 'puppet with its strings cut' one more fucking time, I'm going to buy 500 pieces of Rozen Maiden merchandise and mail them to Ryukishi.

>>22352740
If I remember correctly, he only starts using the puppet metaphor in the EP7 tea party. It's weird how it's remembered as his most repeated metaphor.

It's strange how Rosa is always associated with medullas oblongatas or whatever the fuck. She's always killing goats by shattering their medullas oblongatas, or having her own medulla oblongata pierced by a fence, or shooting After Image Erika's medulla oblongata.

The fuck is a medulla oblongata? Is it the brain stem or something like that?

>>22352746
Yeah. It's the very specific part of the brain stem that controls your involuntary actions, which means that destroying it will kill you instantly.

>>22352757
Does it kill your consciousness instantly, or do you just suffocate to death?

>>22352761
For one, every organ in your body that relies on involuntary control (like your HEART, for example) would be FUBAR, so I imagine it would be an incredibly quick death.
Now, I don't know why Ryukishi didn't just say 'brain stem', because the medulla oblongata is a big part of it and most actions that destroy the stem will destroy it, or make it inoperable, which would have the same effect. It would make sense if the medical specificity had meaning in the mystery, but it doesn't really.
That's a bit of a rhetorical question, though. Everyone knows why. It's because Ryukishi likes to use complex wording for simple concepts.

>>22352740
>>22352746
Reminds me of how "like a puppet who’s strings have been cut" became a big meme in Overlord's translations, to the point where the translator was using it even when the writer didn't
Must be some kind of a cultural thing, like 'it can't be helped' or 'my hips are moving on its own'

>>22352935
Puppets were a big thing in Japan for a very long time, it's probably a good idea to assume it's a sort of cultural memory.

chapter 5:
george commits the murders and erika accuses natsuhi of them for destroying the most important thing for her: "reputation".

Making Ange a single mother!

>first Higurashi
>then Umineko
>now Ciconia
How does he do it to always break my heart, he can't keep getting away with it.

Erika as my boss and being her secretary while i'm being molested by her at work !

>>22352190
They say 気持ちいい, not 気持ち
Sorry man

>>22352190
>Doesn't kimochi literally means "feeling"? Doesn't itai literally mean "pain" (as in, the noun)?

Kind of but not really. 'Kimochii' means "good feeling" (not 'kimochi', which is a noun that means "feeling"), and 'itai' means "painful". Both are used in everyday speech as expressions/exclamations, so just 'kimochii' on its own means "(it) feels good", and just 'itai' on its own is closer to "ow" or "ouch" or "(it) hurts". The nature of the Japanese language just kinda lends itself to words being used like this. Sinking into a warm bath and saying "kimochii~" is just a lot less clunky than sinking into a warm bath and saying "aah, this feels good". Likewise they can get away with using their actual adjective for pain as an exclamation when in pain because the word itself is very short, and unlike English you don't need to shoehorn a preparatory subject (i.e. "it") into everything for it to sound natural.

tl;dr it's not really awkward or cringy in Japanese, but it might be if you tried it in English

>>22353262
Being sexually abused by a woman in a position of power is a god tier fetish.

>>22353391
I want Erika to rub my pants while my coworkers are nearby, i want her to go with me to the bathroom while nobody sees and milk me, i want her to call me into her office and amazon press me and then not get paid for the hours i've missed while in her office, god i just want to fuck this detective so much my balls can't create enough sperm to satisfy her lust

Willard looks kinda chunky with the original sprites.

>>22353399

is this reverse humiliation anon?

the roster keeps epanding
god tier fetish btw bro

>>22353520
humiliation anon just forces his fetish with natural elements of the human body, i want to be an actual Erika toy for those few special moments and let her do whatever this pervy detective wants

>>22353533
anon you like erikantrice theory?

>>22353543
so so, it's not a bad theory but since we technically got an answer arc it's technically pointless, i still like it.
And i like Erika to be something more then berns furniture and have some more meaningful impact on the story

>>22353562
>we technically got an answer arc it's technically pointles
answare arc didnt confirm no theory.
erikantrice born in the answare arc
erika didnt saw kanon's body in the closet.

> more then berns furniture
in my theory bern is a "furniture of erika."
she was totally baited by erika
how can bernkastle really belive that natsuhi is the culprit not only in the 5th game but in all games.

>>22353262
I want her to step on me and insult my intelligence

>>22353599
What about the goats and them telling all the theories ?.
>>22353621
Same, my intelligence is below average but her insults and her secret hints might make me as half good as her

>>22353629
>What about the goats and them telling all the theories

ryukishi was disappointed by all the witch hunters who hadn't understood erika = kanon after the millions of clues in chapter 5 and 6

>>22353399
Having to stay extra late to work with her and not earning any overtime!

>>22353338
>when you realize it's kimochi/ii not kimochii
well that makes a lot more sense

>>22353809
having no actual sick days and spending all of it on work in her office !

>>22353848
under her desk i assume

>>22353902
How else ?

>>22352518
The Shadow Cats.

Long live the Godking.

Would the average loli be brave enough to go through the factory hell, or would most of them be pathetic creatures and keep living in a humiliating human body?

>>22354090
Cute lolis actually enjoy the pleasure of taking a shit and are proud of their sexy bodies. Why would they throw that away?

>>22351114
Hanyuu should remain at Rika's height.

>>22352617
I like that you made him buff but still kept him fat. Nice job.

>>22350156
There's far too many special moments in umineko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is5__hQd6GQ

>>22354090
>>22354099
We're not responsible for your stepdad sexually abusing you when you were little, so keep your way of coping to yourself.

Go seek help outside of this board.

blowing lion in the school pe bathroom

>>22354422
that's hot

>>22354422
I'd rather give lion a reach-around.

so is miyao a murder program or is blue cunt lying?

>>22355096
I don't think he has any reason to lie since he told miyao about the future and tried helping him avoid it

I always imagined that Takano's had a big futa cock in Higurashi.
Now i imagine that Vier has one too.

>>22353261
and Ciconia is only on the beggining

>>22355096
Miyao is the blue cunt and in the beginning he's talking to Meow. Meow is also Jestress and the real main character.

>>22355350
the original "you have stolen my dreams". how embarassing. pathetic. I dare say, humiliating...
crime novel in which the culprit in a serial murder case is a climate activist when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMZTQhKAftU
I'm sad Ryu didn't show adults wandering dogs.

I just had a strange dream about Umineko, it was about Battler and Kyrie and I was Battler in the dream. We were at a kind of warehouse probably belonging to Rudolf or one of his businesses associates, looking through a lot of paper sheets spread out all around the floor/area surrounding it. I don't remember exactly if we were tasked to do it or if it was because we absolutely had to find an A4 sized sheet with the one winged eagle crest on it, but we did this particularly tedious job in place of the guards who should have been doing it normally. As I was walking on the pathway surrounding the facilities, often switching between looking at my feet or through the fence I eventually bumped into her - I wasn't careful. We used that short accident to take a short break and berate Rudolf for being a fucking asshole. At some point, for some reason I muttered "Thank you, mommy" and it made Kyrie genuinely happy. She asked me twice "What did you just call me?" in a tone telling me that she was pleasantly surprised(imagine wide smile sprite), without an ounce of irony or second thoughts even if she didn't want to admit it. She hugged me and the real me (as in : Anon) couldn't help but think that Kyrie couldn't have been this happy considering the truth she didn't actually know and I was left with a strong bittersweet feeling. I woke up moments after.

Thanks for reading my blogpost retards

>>22352539
But Maria wanted to help Kanon to serve tea before Erika entered...mmmmhh.

It's strange Maria could describe Erika much better than Beatrice ("she is younger than Jessica!"). And how could Erika stop Maria's tantrum in the rose garden? It's not like she had a candy paper ready...Erikatrice can answer this.

>>22356114
>But Maria wanted to help Kanon to serve tea before Erika entered

before Erika entered, Gohda ordered kanon to serve tea but when she enters in the room was gohda to serve it.

>>22356088
kyrie is really the best mom
ruthless against enemies and sweet with her family
I hate when there are brainlet that believe in bern's bullshit

>>22356135
Cool find.

>>22346856
Why tf would somebody do that instead of downloading th cg set off sadpanda?

>>22356302
Do you usually read vns/sound novels for the plot or for the cgs?

>>22356286
Thanks
then there is also written that gohda was overloaded with work
strange since in the other games he used kanon as a slave

Wip.

>>22354207
The fat belly was pretty specifically mentioned by Takano, that and I'm trying to be more faitfhul to the OG than the remakes, so yeah.

>>22356406
>more faithful to the remakes
>impure Rena belly
>sexualized the fuck out of them
Not that sexualizating is bad, but don't use being faithful as an excuse. Only Satoko and Hanyuu are truly sexualizated in OG

>>22356765
Faithful in ways like the camera angle, the expressions, the outfits and the poses.
At the end of the day I'm still remaking them in my way with my preferences so it's obviously gonna be still different, but I'm definitely trying to avoid changes like what the official remakes did.

>>22356765
nothing impure about Rena's belly.

>>22356348
>he used kanon as a slave
Oh no.
I didn't paid attention to this. Such small details are actually good hints.

Uh

So did they release that new WTC yet?

>>22356406
Why did the remakes get rid of Rena's autistic hand gestures?

>>22356827
nah

>>22356837
>its been out a month

Man time flies if you don't keep track of this shit. Welp time to play that shit before I'm spoiled, will return after.

How do you even manage to fuck up expressions that hard.

>>22346856
>utorrent
Why not qBittorrent?

>>22356851
This is what I mean. The ones on the left are used in tons of different contexts to represent like 4 different emotions each. The ones on the right lose their subtlety and can't do their job well because they don't look right outside certain early scenes. They are not ambiguous, and yet they are still reused for scenes where they don't work at all.

>>22356860
Is there a difference? Should I switch?

>>22356876
the console sprites at least more or less kept the original vibes, but that's some next level of incompetency.

This Steam one looks actually more similar to the top expression of >>22356851

>>22356900
Notice the lack of blush on the steam version.

>>22356876
That's what happens when a different artist copies the sprites 1:1 in their own style without being the original author. It doesn't work. It's a huge problem with every console version of Higurashi, but it's especially bad with the steam sprites.

>>22356928
Ryuukishi would edit the faces and make a new one when the situation required it, which means he always knew exactly what a expression had to convey. Every line mattered. So having someone else draw their own faces in their own style will inevitably change the expressions in ways that are not immediately obvious but hurt the experience.

>>22356928
>copies the sprites 1:1 in their own style
Except that litterally didn't happen. The Steam sprites are a bastard child of the OG and console sprites (notice how Rena's body is mostly a copy of the console one, and that's just one example), combined with expressions that tends to be totally different even though it could be very faithful.

The PS3 sprites on Umineko are really good. George is so different compared to the OG though. He looks more handsome. Also they really exaggerated some of the expressions of Maria.

>>22356939
>So having someone else draw their own faces in their own style will inevitably change the expressions in ways that are not immediately obvious but hurt the experience.
Which is why I'm defending the pachinko Umi sprites against the PS3 ones, as they attempted to keep the slightly cartoonish expressions of the original, unlike Alchemist's which tried to be """realistic""" - shame the bodies are wank though, PS3 bodies but with pachinko's faces wouldn't be half bad

>>22357053
The pachinko sprites are an abomination. They were only made because Mangagamer thought retards would dislike the OG sprites and couldn't get their hands on the Alchemist ones. So they had those made.

The pachinko designs are more or less based on the manga designs, and they were made with movement in mind. Turning them into static sprites makes them look even worse.

>>22357053
to be fair it doesn't always work. Do you have more comparisons where you think the pachinko expressions are better? I haven't looked at the expressions much.

>>22357094
>So they had those made.
Like the name implies, those sprites were made for a Umineko Pachinko. MG just bought the rights to use them for the OG.

>>22357094
>The pachinko designs are more or less based on the manga designs, and they were made with movement in mind. Turning them into static sprites makes them look even worse.
I'm a big fan of Kei Natsumi's art, the Pachinko sprites just aren't on the same level as her artworks, even if it's based on them.

>>22357099
Does the pachinko actually use sprites, though? All I've seen of it were animated scenes and CGs depicting action scenes.

>>22357114
There is a japanese artbook that includes them, so clearly, yes. I'm not sure how they were used, but they existed before MG decided to put Umineko on Steam.

>>22356406
This is a dumb request, but can you put a collar and wrist band on the high school outfit of Rena?
Something that always bothered me is that Rena had suicidal episodes and apparently still has knife scars on her neck and wrists. That's why she has a collar band and wrist band in her common outfit. In the anime, they even show that her scars are still visible. But what I never understood is why doesn't the Rena always wear the wrist band and collar?
It's the one weird discrepancy in Ryukishi's art.

>>22357180
Uh, never really thought about that. Knife scars don't just simply disappear so you're not wrong, it should still be there.

It's not just the highschool outfit then, same for the sport outfit.

>>22357099
Sure, one I really like is Eva - the Alchemist version has technically the same expression (even the mouth is the same), but due to the transition to the """accurate""" artstyle is lost its oomph; pachinko meanwhile took the melting ayylmao face and morphed it into one that you see in sleep paralysis, keeping the vibe of the original - I blame the eyes, PS3 version just went for generic kurahzey instead of something even similar to original - fuck's sake they keep the glimmer - while Steam has ones more like R07's
(sure hope I could figure out an easier way than manually putting them next to each other in gimp, also what in the name of fuck is happening with the ps3 sprites' backgrounds)

>>22357134
To be fair, some sprites have changed from what's in the artbook, so I wouldn't say they're the same thing

>>22357200
hiromoot you fuck

>>22357200
>To be fair, some sprites have changed from what's in the artbook, so I wouldn't say they're the same thing

Did they? I always wondered for what reason the pachinko game would require every single OG expressions to be adapted, I guess it's not impossible that MG commissioned them to complete the sprite set.

>>22357180
>>22357191
I think they are meant to be visible. She just hides it from everyone else wearing a choker and only lets her classmates see it because it's not like they are going to judge her for it. Most of them are kids and the only girl her age is Mion, who probably thinks Rena was one of THOSE emo 13 year old attention-whores who self-harm to feel special. So she's not gonna make her ashamed of her past. And it's not like Rena can get away with wearing a tacky ass choker with her school uniform.

The sprites don't show too much detail, that's why you can't see it. You can't see Satoko's clit or the color of her nipples either. The sprites don't attempt to show that much detail.

>>22357202
Why do they always change their eye color from black to something else?

>>22357202
fix the ps3 iris and it's good. Pachinko expression looks retarded.

>>22357207
You can't see Satoko's clitoris because even a loli's vagina is closed enough to hide it. And the sprite is facing the front.

I think Satoko is meant to have a bit of pubic hair, though. So it's probably something that the sprites leave out because they don't cover as much detail. So it's kind of a catbox whether she's completely bald or not.

>>22357202
I always liked how black her outfit was and how fucking huge the guns looked.

What's the point of making the guns smaller and more realistic if it just makes the sprite less impactful? Some of the gun sprites for certain characters barely look like they have a gun unless you look very closely. While in the original, whenever someone pointed with a gun, the weapon was always sticking out and impossible to ignore.

>>22357207
No matter how I see it, Rena showing her scars would give a very different vibe to what she tries to act.
You'd also expect Kei to mention it at least one time in the VN.

>>22357239
Thing is, the huge guns works because the characters have huge hands to handle them. It would look comical with the remade sprites, I think. Maybe someone could try doing an edit.

>>22357191
Exactly.

>>22357207
Personally, I thought she would always hide them no matter what, and that you might think that it's something like a clothing preference she wears and then you find out that she had suicidal episodes and it's the reason she wears them. I always found it weird that none of the sprites do this.
Although I think Ryukishi prioritized the school outfit to show off her arms and the wrist band put too much focus on itself.

>>22357241
Damn, yeah, having her show her scars wouldn't be better.

>>22357206
Let's use Beato for protag reasons: out of the 8 expressions in the bottom right corner, the ones changed are:
- top center (odoroki1)
- center left (nayamu1? nayamu2?)
- center (aseru4? shouldn't have a smirk though; ikari1? the mouth would be open)
- bottom right (akuwarai5?)

Unchanged are:
- top right (warai2)
- center right (gaman4)
- bottom left (gaman7)
- bottom center (fuman2, the sprite has a blush but maybe it's invisible due to the scan quality)

El Hermano Batora is as far as I've seen unchanged though, ain't gonna go through all the characters but iirc Eva, Maria, Virgilia and Bern had changes
Can't compare Chiru sprites but desu they're perfect in the artbook already and changes could fuck them up

>>22357231
you say that as if retarded expressions aren't a big part of Ryukishi's style as well

>>22357248
In that case, what's the point of remaking all the visuals for the console ports? Old KEY VNs also have goofy ass sprites and they don't change for the console ports. And that's a big professional company.

Why not let the original sprites and backgrounds speak for themselves instead of replacing them?

>>22357202
>>22357200
Both alternative gun sprites look wacky, it's like she's not even aiming

I hope that you have read all four of them anon.

If the Yamainu has Rika's phone bugged and is constantly surveilling her to make sure she's not in danger, does that mean they also installed cameras in her house?

I bet one of those guys is hiding a secret stash of Satoko nudes captured by those cameras!

>>22357862
not higanbana, only 1-2 chapter i think.

>>22357862
It's crazy how many references to Higanbana and RGD there are in Ciconia. From metaphors to themes to expies to entire scenes.

There are also tons of Higurashi references that anime-onlys won't even register, and also things like Jestress' appearance that only people who read Umineko with the original art will immediately recognize.

This is truly made for the real fans. Not fans of Umineko or whatever, but fans of Ryuukishi.

>>22357862

i'm reading higu right now (after getting ruined by the anime).
i already read umi and ciconia.
are the other two good?
i almost never hear about them.
rose guns day isn't even a wtc right?

https://is2.4chan.org/wsg/1572732470265.webm
I think I saw this one before but forgot it existed

>>22358210
gottem

>>22357951
I seriously don't get how people didn't pick up on Jestress being a Lambda expie. The hat and physique says it all. PS3 art is no excuse. Anyone with half a brain could figure it out.

>>22358128
Higanbana is good. It has stories that are downright amazing and others that are just really fucking retarded. RGD is Ryukishi's only work I haven't been able to get into, but that's just me. From what I've heard, its part of the same cosmology, like Higanbana, but no, it isn't a When They Cry.

>>22357951
What Higanbana references did you pick up?

Is it wrong for me to say that the setting and themes of Ciconia reminds me of The Big O, especially with the steampunk aesthetics and the whole forgotten history thing?

>>22358362
People tend to identify anime characters by their hair color. Someone who only knows PS3 Lambda may not realize that Jestress is meant to be a literal clone of Lambda.

Speedreaders are worse than goats, rosatricers and italian anon.

>>22358210

Alright, about done with redrawing all of Rena's sprites expressions. There are 11 in total (+1 variant with no blush, but didn't bother including it in this gif).

>>22358720

really good job anon

aside from the obscenely lewd body the face is probably the best redrawing that mantains the original sprites expressions
or just vibes i don't know how to call it

I wonder if Rena's uniform fits badly because it was bought at that shop and wasn't fitted.

>>22358764
Rena always had a lewd body. It was just less obvious on the OG school sprite.

Ok guys i finnally finish end of the golden witch
Mamma Mia is always spectacular as I remembered it.
I found more than 50 clues about erika = kanon soon with the new chapter of the poster but now I go to bed but first an anticipation.

bernkastle is not the game master but she said an high number of red truths that were not confirmed by anything.
both virgilia and battler (when he became a sorcerer) red truths have been rejected but those of bern no why?
simple because erika the accomplice of the culprit (george) knew everything about the murden plan , so her statements are red but the stupid bernkastle believed that they were red thanks to her authority literally baited by lambda and erika.

ex:bern confirmed the breaking of the seal of the room of genji .
only kanon and kumasawa were in that moment so it could be false but instead bern confirms it with red as possible?
because erika was present at that time is also said in this red truth:
At 1:00 AM, Eva sealed Genji's waiting room, and that seal was broken by""""""" Kanon""""""" and Kumasawa in the morning when the crime was discovered.

>>22358813
Wouldn't her body be more lewd if it was an awkward middle schooler body that she's ashamed of?

>>22358918
That's exactly what her body is like, though. She doesn't have a fully adult body at all, even in the angel mort uniform.

>>22358935

>>22358948
I hate when hentai artists put a character's head on a completely unrelated body just because it's their favorite body type. Rather than seeing the character naked, it feels like I'm seeing someone else wearing a mask of their face.

>>22357207
>>22357232
I think Satoko is bald down there, but she probably has super lewd armpit stubble that she does a poor job of shaving. She's like 11, right? It must be the case.

>>22358973
>hentai artist
It's an official illustration for the console games, you know.

>>22358980
Whatever, it's still not art by Ryuukishi.

That pic does look nice, though. It's sexy even if it's not too accurate to their real bodies.

In the same way that this is sexy (if you can handle futa):

https://exhentai.org/g/1192517/61e4530ed1/

It's grotesque and their bodies are all wrong, but it's lewd in a strange way and it's one of the few doujins that bothers drawing their body hair realistically or at all.

>>22358994
>it's still not art by Ryuukishi.
Still official. Ryukishi's style is so chibi anyway, besides tits size it's hard to get a proper look at the body proportions.

>>22358999
Ryukishi is always in favor of big breasts so it's fine.

Where can I find the CGs of the Switch release of "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Hou"?

Would Satoko be a cringy fortnite kid if she existed today?

Ah shit, I knew there was something weird about this shot when I played KnS2. Now I found out that it used the same village as Higurashi for references.

>>22359308
Is this place important to the story? It's just so weird to see it as not-Hinamizawa.

>tfw just realized that there was a miON and shiON twist in higurashi and a shannON and kanON twist in umineko

holy shit

>>22357109
I like that you can tell these are done by the same artist, and yet the level of quality is so different.

>>22358720
I love how her shirt rides up a bit when she raises her arm. real nice touch.

Rena is so cute.

And yet...

And YET...

>>22352231
>>22352241
I'm the one who made that picture.
I was just thinking about Chloe and the factory, and I thought it'd be funny if every character had a brain jar identifiable by something (Lidja's having the pulla, Meow's having the hat, etc).
Of course, her brain jar would be identifiable by her brain tits.

That's it.
What do you think, everyone?

>>22358897
Yup, A total consparancy against Natsuhi
>(red truth)It was impossible to reach the second floor of the guesthouse without passing through the lounge, and impossible to reach it at all without Erika, who was in the lounge, knowing about it!
>Pretends to look away.
It's the best indicator to claim this Erika isn't a real detective..
>(red truth) A person first introduced in the 5th game cannot be named as the CULPRIT...!!
This means Erika was one of the original 17 people in the first 4 games.
Strange enough she calls Erika "Lady Erika". Wrong naming are possible like Lady Erika Kanon

>>22360761
>every inspection to a body will be perfect
So why erika didnt notice that no one in the cousin room were dead?
(Because she was an accomplice)
>(red truth) A person first introduced in the 5th game cannot be named as the CULPRIT...

Really were is is like the biggest weapon for erikantrice
Thanks anon

>>22353208
Momokun..

I dreamt Naima had a dick.

>>22359453
About half of the game is set there, the rest in the city.

>>22360788
>So why erika didnt notice that no one in the cousin room were dead?
>(Because she was an accomplice)
Because she didn't actually inspect the bodies.
>>22360761
>It's the best indicator to claim this Erika isn't a real detective..
She was proclaimed to be one in red for ep5. She knows that Natsuhi is not the culprit, she's just trying to troll Battler.
>This means Erika was one of the original 17 people in the first 4 games.
Erika does not exist in any of the gameboards before 5 nor does she influence them.

>>22359525
Yes and in one of the tips of Higurashi Ryukishi talks about multi personality stuff with Mion and Shion, he always liked that idea.
He's doing it on Ciconia now

>>22360680
>her brain tit
a-anon?

Jayden more like Gayden lmao

>>22361251
Because she didn't actually inspect the bodies.
Yes so why the detective didnt inspect the body?
Because she knew that they were alive because she knew about murder plan

>She was proclaimed to be one in red for ep5. She knows that Natsuhi is not the culprit, she's just trying to troll Battler.
Furude erika was the detective not erika

>>22361284
>Implying you wouldn't hit on Miyao
And I mean Miyao, not Meow aka No Homo

>>22361251
The theory of Erikatrice has a different aspect than Battler. Of course you can put everyone and averything in a cat box. It's funny how Ikuko+Tohya treated the real Erika and the family. Like they treated Eva. NO RESPECT
No, what I want to say these Forgeries were written in a specific mindset but put something there they couldn't solve it on their own (the love thing). This doesn't mean Eva+Hideyoshi were the sole culprits just because the manga shows it, and even she admitted it, it could the last resort of a nice auntie to pretend to be the culprit.

>Because she didn't actually inspect the bodies.
Doesn't matter because it was stated in red Erika should have noticed anyone coming in. Thus, she gave Natsuhi an perfect alibi. Also, she avoided to look into the room after Battler screamed. So it implies she knew and let the other people prepare. Actually it is bad for a detective to arrive late to the crimescene.
>She was proclaimed to be one in red for ep5. She knows that Natsuhi is not the culprit, she's just trying to troll Battler.
She proclaimed herself to be a detective in red in EP6. It's a contradiction. It was discussed in several posts ago. Lambda hinted Knox 7th has an exception. She is fully aware of the Meta (speaking to Bern while eating, arriving the island in EP6)
Possibilities why she can be both:
1) the detective is a title/career, the detective authority only counts (see EP6)
2) there are 2 different Erikas (see argument "no 18th person exists in all games")
3) detectives are allowed to be (murdering) accomplices
4) Erika's detective authority was hindered by something (alcohol, drugs, got stolen)
5) the Erika-ball (an old theory where Erika get a viewpoint from a person and she is him/her in that scene)

A cool thing to see is how Umineko switched Knox's rules from a writing rule set to an inside rule set to deny witches. However Umineko isn't faithful to these rules.
For example EP5 cannot be solved in a normal way. Several hints were locked behind the "tea party", a normal reader cannot really solve it without "Natsuhi=culprit". That's why I mentioned Eva before. For example, after they ate DINNER the narration/Battler never showed Erika and Eva together. Later you got this red truth smashed in your face
>Eva's seal was of the same type as <Miss> Erika's. That is because this method of sealing was one that <Miss> Erika and Eva conceived of together after DINNER.
Woops. So it doesn't really matter to me that Dlanor refers to "the detective, <Miss> Erika". So it's simple to say she is already unreliable from the start because of fantasy scenes, hiding hints and falsify testonomy. Because people still reallly, really believes the red truth people calls her "the real detective", and don't even care because Battler's theory was more important.
>Erika does not exist in any of the gameboards before 5 nor does she influence them.
Bad wording from me. I meant someone from the original 17 people is Erika in Ep5+6. Also you got the red wrong. She doesn't exist not only on the gameboards, but in the worlds before 5. That's the reason why
Erika->personality makes more sense because it's the same as Lion. Bern cannot rescue non-existent people with miracles.

>>22361651
I'm really tired of this.
I'm not the guy you were talking to btw, this is my first post in the thread.
Let's disregard the plot.
Let's ignore that the focal plot point of an entire episode is that she doesn't "exist".
This isn't what I'm arguing about, nor do I want to fight over minutia.

The main issue I have with this is that the Erika theory completely tramples over the rule that the game must be solvable in its entirety from the first episode.
You're insisting that the truth of the matter resides in a character that doesn't even exist in more than half of the episodes, and more than four fifths of the story in its length.
In Saku they even joke about how irrelevant she is, and how the only person with which she has any link with her as a personality is Ange.
But, most importantly, I can't get over how someone believing in this must also believe that Ryu07 is maliciously not only hiding the solution, but built a perfectly fitting fake one, discouraging readers from trying to go any further.
It feels like a theory made for the sake of arguing more than out of a genuine interest for an alternative solution, and the fact that every effort in spreading it has been at the hands of low-effort off-board shitposters only reinforces the idea that they don't give a fuck about truth or whatever, they just want to be right and/or ruin threads with this.

Don't bother replying to this, I'm not looking for a fight.
I'm just exhausted and wish we could return to having comfy /jp/ seacats threads like before that cancerous growth attached itself to our underbelly.

This isn't fun, this isn't interesting, this is absolutely nothing.
It's just digging open a grave so you can piss on the corpse while insisting you're in the right for doing so.

>>22361695
>The main issue I have with this is that the Erika theory completely tramples over the rule that the game must be solvable in its entirety from the first episode.

kanon and george are the culprit were are the problem why you cant solve the game in the first episode with these 2?

>You're insisting that the truth of the matter resides in a character that doesn't even exist in more than half of the episodes, and more than four fifths of the story in its length.

the main point of my theory is kanon and george culprit
erika=kanon born to explaine chiru.

try to read my manifesto
i never use erika=kanon to explaine the firt 4 games

>>22361714
Why would George kill his parents AND Shannon? That's fucking dumb. And kinda funny because I guess George is really easy to use as a culprit because Rosatrice had him too IIRC.

>>22361744
read my manifesto
George thought that Shannon had faked his death.
george killed his parents because he hated them they oppose marriage with shannon

>>22361695
>m-muh comfy threads
fuck off redditor

>>22360680
>brain tits
Now this is high iq, are you already a brain in a jar or something anon?