07th Expansion Thread

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Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, and other Ryukishi works.

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>>22327877
s-sorry i..i just can't hold it anymore...!
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

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why

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Smug tithild

[Italian_anon !sKdrQhZuCQ No.]

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7 logic error absurd
ERIKANTRICE IS THE TRUE SOLUTION

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Humiliation

[Anonymous No.]

What is Trianthology about?

And what's the deal with "RGD the best"? I heard it includes an extra story, but what is it about?

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>>22327938
Noasshild.

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Andry side view

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This is just a funky way of describing a konpeito. Lambdadelta was throwing around super-technology the whole time.

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>>22328435

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>>22328437
Wisdom 19080630, the one that showed up when Seshat caught the traitor, also resembles a konpeito candy.
It was described as a silver stellated-truncated-dodecahedron.

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>>22327877
why they dress like this

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>>22328664
Fashion has changed in the future.

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not gay at all lads

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>>22328714

now tell me if this part wasn't the cutest thing ever

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>>22328875
fuck you bitch they were supposed to be millitary brothers

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>>22328887

>millitary brothers

yes and what did ancient greeks do with their military brothers?

[Anonymous No.]

Who's ready for Halloween?

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>>22326628

what the fuck the right one was supposed to be angry?
how do you fuck up so bad

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>>22328912
halloween !
Uuuuu~

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>>22329023
I want to give this cute kid tons of candy.

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>>22328936
That post is nonsense. His mapping is incorrect.

[italian_anon !sKdrQhZuCQ No.]

Jessica shannon-chan
the dinner is ready!!!!

Eva couldn't use Rosa's sleeping pills to put krauss and natsuhi to sleep because gohda had used them all last night.

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>>22328936
>>22329304
Besides, would you rather have the steam expressions?

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>>22329508
Perhaps

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>>22329531
Steam is for lewds.

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>>22329023

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>>22329590
This

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>>22329612
This design is one of my faves to date. It's raunchy, yet believably so. Plus it shows off all the key points with the cleavage, navel, thighs, and rear. The exposed areas are also distributed evenly, making your eyes travel all over.

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>>22329594
>>22329023
reminder that Anime Maria has a fang and this is the greatest thing to come out of it.

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>>22327877
what did I miss

>>22329508
>>22329531
pachinko sprites generally ty to have the same expressions in its artstyle, while Alchemist made some, erm, artistic liberties - they didn't at Chiru, but most Beatos and Battlers already suffered damage

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>>22329594

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>>22329665
>but most Beatos and Battlers already suffered damage
To be perfectly fair, those are two of the characters with the largest number of expressions.

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>>22329665
>what did I miss
Just some titty edits.

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>>22329673
Yeah but I meant that most of their expressions were made in 1-4, so even if the Chiru ones were more faithful a lot were left kinda soulless (same with others, like Eva's and Kinzo's akuwarais being wank)

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>>22329710
In Eva's case, the soullessness feels intentional. But I get what you mean.

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>>22329594
>>22329649
I want to beat my autistic daughter!

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>right after an explosion injuring and possibly killing many people
What was his problem?

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>>22329720
I used 'soulless' in the meme meaning, using Eva as example: both the OG and pachinko sprites are genuinely unsettling (the latter giving the hag a melting ayy lmao face did kind of help), while PS3 is just bruh, like they did a split between a generic house style and giving her a creepy smile, and ended up with neither
Or Virgilia, her akus in PS3 are a lot less impactful than both OG and pachinko, even if the latter are janky as fuck
Point is, a lot of people are harping on pachinko sprites, sometimes even for good reasons (turbotits, minor characters not having any and being forced into an artstyle clash), but praising Alchemist's like some godsent miracle - and I resent that

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>>22330111
Jesus fucking christ that's nightmare kind of terrifying

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>>22330067
Was this meant to be intentional, or does Keropoyo just type up your first thoughts?

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>>22330142
I was wondering about this, if Jayden has this type of conversation with the LATO sisters then I'd be worried if I were Miyao

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>>22330111
Let retards be retards. It's obvious that the original art is always the best.

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>>22328689
>miy_b01
>my boi
Dicklet confirmed.

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>>22328689
And yet collars are still in fashion, so humanity is still doing good.

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>>22330111
>her akus
her anus?

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>>22330111
The steam sprites garner more hate than they deserve, especially considering they weren't even designed to be used in the vn to begin with, but rather for a pachinko game.

One other good thing they did, something that no other version has done, was giving each of the Chiesters a unique body instead of recycling/flipping a single one for the whole group. Steam 45, 410, and 00 all have notable differences when compared, and even 556 gets some variation, albeit very minor as they just took 410's body and stretched it a bit.

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>>22328435
Will Lambda ever stop making herself obvious?

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>>22330375
Here's another outfit idea I came up with for Bern. Using Kakera and strings to fashion a jewelled bikini. The thought of her literally wearing fragments as clothes is a neat idea I think.

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>>22330427
Subtlety isn't exactly her thing.

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>>22330480
Lambda is the kind of roleplayer that lowkey self-inserts for every character.

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>>22330420
>shaved pussy
This alone makes those sprites garbage.

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>>22330550
They only shaved the edges, because those sprites showed them, which is super lewd. And they have dignity, so they couldn't walk around showing off their pubes like that.

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They are ALL brains in jars!

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why do humans wear clothing? ryukishi mentions this a lot

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>>22330111

this is what you see when you have sleep paralisys

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If I skip half the amount of subchapters in every chapter of higurashi will I miss anything? Until now they have been scenes that would appeal to the otaku audience Ryu was aiming at but doesnt particularly add anything to the story

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>>22330807
read all normie

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>>22330815
filtered

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https://youtu.be/aUFASFgsU0I

[italian_anon !sKdrQhZuCQ No.]

>>22330817
>filtered
what mean?

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>>22330807
Do whatever you want, brainlet.

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>>22330807
What do you mean by sub chapters? The tips?

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>>22330769
Would you be able to take Mion seriously if she walked around butt naked? That's why. Humans are inherently pathetic and need to cover their shame with clothes.

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>>22330850
The chapters in each episode, respectively there's 12 in each of the 8 episodes

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>>22330869
Oh, you shouldn't really skip those. Even if a lot of Higurashi is slice of life stuff, it's still a big part of the experience and skipping it only makes it worse.

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I've come to stop hating the Higurashi anime for some reason. It's a clumsy adaptation and absolutely doesn't count as having read the VN, but it's still a very effective.and charming story.

If anything, my dislike for the anime comes from the fact that people judge Higurashi, rate it or compare it to Umineko having only watched the anime, which is doesn't do the VN justice at all. It turns a fantastic story into a merely "good" story.

Even so, I really like the anime. It may be nostalgia, but I think it's generally well made and has its own charm. It's just nowhere near as good as the VN and spoils the entire thing with a fraction of the emotional investment, so watching it without having touched the VN is a terrible decision.

Actually, now that I'm rewatching it after reading the VN, I like it more than ever. Probably because my knowledge of the characters, the complexity of the story and all the information exclusive to the VN is still in my head, so my brain can fill up all the holes in the anime and allow me to undertand what the fuck is going on in Matsuribayashi, give a fuck about Irie, or see why Mion is the best character. Even if the anime itself leaves all of that out.

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>>22330906
Also, the OST is really damn good, the openings and endings are great, and the more horror-focused tone (which unfortunately kind of ruins half of Kai) is a breath of fresh air. It's a different experience. I always loved Onikakushi, so seeing most of the arcs transformed into a horror story similar to that is quite entertaining and fun to watch. Even if it results in a crappy adaptation.

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>>22330391
akuwarais, the sprites in Umi are named after expressions, trollfaces etc. are given the 'akuwarai' prefix

>>22330130
>>22330805
don't open it

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>>22330917
also one of Bern's has fangs which is moe i guess??
her akuwaraia1 is legit scary though

>>22330906
>>22330915
anime ost > vn ost fite me

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>>22330917
Not even boobs can save that quality.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine not liking the club kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGMPIRvYnMU

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>>22330807
Why would you want to skip content? Are you capable of enjoying anything passionately or do you just consume media like a brainless normie watches movies eating popcorn and looking away from the screen every 30 seconds?

The tips are part of the story and you are supposed to have that information going forwards. They are just unlocked like that between chapters because they tend to be random scenes from the perspective of different characters that wouldn't fit into the main story. And the only reason you are given the chance to skip them is so you can RE-READ the arc without having to go through every single tip in the future.

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>>22330923
Nah, the anime ost doesn't compare to anything in Matsuribayashi. But it's still pretty good and has its own style.

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>>22330901
But it keeps me from all the lingering questions of the plot

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>>22330936
Man they really fucked up calling both the game entry itself and the sub sections within every game chapters

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>>22330928
What were they thinking when they updated the steam version to replace this and silver mirror with some crappy new songs?

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>>22330945
I don't know what to tell you, dude. I'll never understand that sort of mentality, but do as you wish. Skip whatever you want, who cares. It's your experience. Ruin it as much as you want. The fact that you are even thinking of doing this means that you are not capable of enjoying a story properly, so who cares.

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>>22330923
What's with those fangs? It makes no sense.

I only like lolis with fangs when they are human and it's a lewd reminder that they have adult fangs that look big compared to their baby teeth. And it still doesn't compare to missing teeth or tooth gaps.

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>>22330906
>>22330915
I like the anime too, but I prefer Kira. I'd rather watch unique and honestly pretty lewd fanservice than a watered down adaptation of the main story.

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>>22330945
Skipping the slice of life stuff is probably gonna make you have more questions. A big part of Higurashi is knowing why characters do the things they do. The slice of life help with that.

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>>22330968
I didn't say I am gonna skip them, I was just asking whether skipping all the (seemingly) unrelated slice of life stuff will make me miss important plot points in the main village murder mystery plot, I mean I don't need this simulation of hanging out with cute girls since I can do that in real life already lol

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>>22330999
Higurashi is half slice of life, half mystery/horror. You can't just skip half of it. But again, do whatever you want. Skip it.

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>>22330999
so watch only the anime

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>>22330999
The mystery isn't all that important or satisfying to solve. If you don't enjoy the slice of life, you won't understand why the characters try to regain their peace so badly or give much of a shit about them.

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>>22331009
I didn't say I am gonna skip them, I was just asking whether skipping all the (seemingly) unrelated slice of life stuff will make me miss important plot points in the main village murder mystery plot

If you're not gonna answer me and just dodge the question by pretending I said something different don't expect another reply

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>>22331025
I'm not saying you are going to skip them, I'm just saying that even considering the idea of skipping part of a story is completely stupid, whether you miss "plot points" or not.

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>>22331025
yes

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if it was possible to skip the shkanon scenes in ep2 and ange's flashbacks in ep4 i would, i so would
but nooOOooOOo, ryukishi has to make the most important scenes either boring af or mundane (see tatarigoroshi)

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>>22331025
Why are you even reading Higurashi if all you care about is the barebones, cold, heartless murder mystery plot? Ryuukishi focuses a lot of his writing on the emotional aspect of the story and half the text is dedicated to slice of life stuff. If you genuinely don't care about that, you might consider reading something else.

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>>22331051
Why do people find those boring? I don't get it.

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>>22331051
nope
ange scene:nanjo nd kumasawa motive for help kanon
shannon not kanon scene: golden brooch(2 billion yen debit card)

[Anonymous No.]

Is Sumire humiliation anon? Bullying is basically humiliation but with lolis.

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How can Mion be such a good person if she's literally being trained to learn how to use firearms, dispose of corpses and help her family's businesses which involves political corruption, illegal drugs and teen prostitution rings?

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>>22331071
Was Yukari actually in any danger at the beginning of Utopia? All she had to do is NOT kill herself and accept her place as the school's absolute humiliatee.

Her only enemy was her pride. Bullying wouldn't kill her.

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>>22330860
>ywn force Mion and Shion to go through the meat factory and become a single body in VR world

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>>22331025
Mion's club is important because it's the only place where all these damaged fucks can be themselves and play like kids. Especially Mion and Keiichi, who missed out on all that fun stuff when they were young.

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>>22331122
>implying Mion would let a nutjob like Miyao join her club
They would all bully him and have Irie lobotomize him to kill Meow.

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>>22331122
I wish Ryuukishi would make a Higurashi sequel that is just a bunch of slice of life stuff. The cast is great and I love every single one of them.

Higurashi keeps getting random side arcs written by other people where crazy shit happens, but I never cared about much about those. I just want a true sequel that is 100% sliece of life.

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>>22330906
I find the fucked up animation with the dead pupils in Season 1 really charming. But season 2 has beautiful animation and you can see Mion's wet tits during the final confrontation in the rain.

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>>22331122
Mion is indeed the best character and the one that best embodies the messages of Higurashi. She always tries her best to create an environment where damaged people can be given a second chance to shine and become who they always wanted to be.

But kindness has a limit, doesn't it? Miyoko is another damaged person with a shitty life, but she crossed a line and had someone's parents killed. That's just too fucked up to forgive. Should they accept her?

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>>22331209
Fuck that bitch, she shot Mion in the head like a pathetic animal and stripped her dead body naked to look at her tattoo. That's the ultimate humiliation.

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Are console-only games non-canon? Does that mean Satoko still murdered her parents?

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>>22331409
Higurashi is set in a sea of fragments, with Rika living through many different iterations of the same timeframe
I'll let you decide whether or not some of them adhere to a 'canon' - though if you're talking about Saikoroshi, the 'ideal world', bear in mind that it's a) not console-only, b) written directly by R07
(the only ones that explicitly contradicts the original 9 are the two Miotsukushis, and they're good by themselves)

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>>22331437
I'm talking about Matsuri which reveals that they had fallen because the boards gave in

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before the meeting with erika, gohda and kanon entered in the mansion parlor and gohda had ordered kanon to serve the tea but when natsuhi and krauss entered was gohda to serve it. kanon had literally disappeared before erika arrived

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>>22331537
>Kanon's tits = Erika's tits
ngl I choked on my drink

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>>22331545
Are you ok anon?
Flat tits are the best
Like battler say in the 4th game: lolis with flat chest and long black hair are the best
(Blue hair in anime and manga mean black hair)

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>>22330807
>scenes that would appeal to the otaku audience Ryu was aiming at but doesnt particularly add anything to the story
Do it. I skipped most of the annoying otaku SoL meandering too and didn't lose much from the experience.
Just kidding. Kill yourself out of this board, subhuman trash.

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>>22331025
>I was just asking whether skipping all the (seemingly) unrelated slice of life stuff will make me miss important plot points in the main village murder mystery plot
i can't tell if this post is supposed to be satire or not.

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>>22331537
What happened to your trip?

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>>22331593
I found out that the other anon used them to censor my posts.
I trusted them and they betrayed me so disgusting

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>>22331599
>I trusted them and they betrayed me
this definitely ranks as one of your all-time top quotes.

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>>22331599
if your message is the truth, you don't need a tripcode. just trust that your words will convey the meaning and bring people closer to the light.

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>>22331616
youre right but i give up on explaine of erikantrice too tired 1bit goats dont understand the true i follow passion of homosex now

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>>22331599
>I trusted them and they betrayed me so disgusting
You know who else got betrayed? I think you might be on to something anon.

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>>22331626
>>22331616
my goal is only to show that erikantrice is the truth, I am not interested in having any recognition

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>>22331623
Return to discord fake-me
I will never give up
the truth is only one and if you surrender and accept the lies you no longer have the right to call yourself human

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>>22331552
I thought we already established the existence of Erika's tits though?

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>>22331678
yes in meta world
but in real world erika is forced to use kanon body!!!

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>>22331701
I can't accept a theory where Erika is anything less than a B-cup. Her breasts have been unjustly slandered for far too long. They deserve recognition.

Also, 2nd from the right in >>22331678 is outside the meta world, given the swimsuit, duct tape seals, and Ushiromiya mansion.

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>>22331729
Erika just use kanon's body
real erika body is in meta-world

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>>22330906
I actually enjoy the anime adaptation of Higurashi Rei over the VN, and it gave us the image of Rika giving Satoko a chair beatdown

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>>22331929
It's not a bad adaptation, but the best part of that arc is Rika's internal monologues and the conclusions the draws from her whole journey, which is all missing from the anime.

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>>22332091
its been a while since I've watched it and I had already read the chapter beforehand.

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>>22327877
soul brazzers

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>>22332212
I wonder if Ciconia will have a new version of Irie working for Vier
Her faction only has 1 character with a sprite + the blue robots so they could use an extra character

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>>22327877
What do you think Beatrice smells like?

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>>22332257
she starts out smelling like blcck tea and rose-scented perfume, but by the end of ep3 she smells like cheap booze all the time. what a burnout!

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>>22332257
black cock

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that this is the "Bus Stop" to Ciconia: https://youtu.be/vOhwZEUYv6I

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>>22332964
Read this for the drama to make a lick of sense: https://haworthia.home blog/haworthia-booklet/

Kinda make the ending tragic, in an ironic sense of of the word.

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>>22332964
>>22333111
I only just read this summary and a few seconds of the first video, but it gave me a thought.

What if this isn't a VR simulation, but a different kind of simulation?
What if humanity has already gone extinct after WW3, but was recreated by 8MS? What if everyone is an 8MS simulation of humans?

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It's a shame that even a finished work like Umineko (one that ended nearly 10 years ago, by now - holy fuck) leaves more room for discussion than Phase 01 of Ciconia. Nearly everything is so clear cut that it hardly leaves any room to discuss anything. I honestly don't see this work having more than 4 parts. especially considering this isn't a mystery, and thus there's no need for the Core/Answer arcs setup.

Anyhow, FUCK YEAH YELADOT SHAVIT!

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>>22333226
Are you dumb? Ryukishi stated there will only be 4 parts, you clearly said Ciconia isnt a mystery as opposed to Umineko, and there is tons of discussion around phase 1 anyways. There's like 49380 theories going around, and constant discussion around traitors and shit.

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>>22333226
Based. If it's really only gonna be 4 arcs, I'm probably just gonna pirate the rest of the games. Maybe I'll buy them afterwards if I like it enough.

Not to say it's bad. I just a lost a bit of respect for Ryukishi since he won't be staying consistent with the established forumula of WTC. I like the story, but character depth is going to be fucked if he only does 4 arcs. No way he will be able to flesh out everything and resolve all these mysteries in 4 arcs.

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>>22333565
I don't see it as complicated as the story has already given us the Who, (the various) How and the Why as to the villain's identity and actions.

The questions left hanging are about in-between issues such as:

1. Who are the spies? Not really the biggest of issues, since they're pawns anyway.
2. What happened to the original Miyao?
3. What's that place where people are getting butchered, and what's Miyao's connection to that place?
4. What happened during WWIII?
5. How was 8MS made, and who is in control of it?
6. Who is Miyao supposed to kill? Was that an order from his father or from his mother?
7. What are the identities of the Three Kings? Valid question, but perhaps not that relevant as to how things will unfold.
8. What's Miyao/Meow's body's gender? Not really that much of a relevant question, at least, not so far.
9. What is Toujirou's endgame, and is it aligned to the Three Kings' endgame?
10. What is Jestress' endgame, and is it aligned to the Three Kings' endgame? Is she Miyao's mother? If she's his mother, is she her biological mother, or just the mother of either of the apps that call themselves Miyao? Same question for Toujirou.

I believe these questions can easily be answered in 3 more stories.

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>>22333494
I prefer the official version.

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After finishing Haworthia, I have some new ideas regarding 8MS.

I believe that everyone in Vier's laboratory and all blue humans are 8MS constructs. When you join Vier's lab, you're agreeing to have an immortal 8MS version of you created to live in the lab forever. You then either die later, or get killed in the process.

I also think this raises some questions about where humanity is supposed to go as the series progresses. It seems there will be two paths so far: kill yourself and get a perfect 8MS clone to live on in your stead, or rip your brain out, continue to live, but exist only in VR.

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>>22333611
Sure, all good questions, but you gotta remember anon that both Higurashi and Umineko were focused not just solving the mysteries, but also beating the antagonists. Considering how little character development we got and how much of Phase 1 was worldbuilding, we are way behind in that category.

He very well could finish it 4 arcs, but I just think it would feel very dry from a story standpoint if he did. I want more time to get to know the characters and see the conflict slowly escalate.

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>>22333676
I don't think it would be that hard to think how the end of humanity is prevented (assuming that's what R07 is aiming for). For example, even withing the villains' ranks, you seem to have several factions: 1) The Three Kings, 2) Toujirou, 3) Sesshat, 4) 34, and 5) even Jestress seems to have her own agenda. So, it shouldn't be surprising if, at some point, they start messing with each other. In fact, they already have, since Sesshat already messed with a member from 34's faction, and it's very likely that the info about the crop killing virus was leaked by Toujirou's Order.
Also, one of the spies could end up regretting their choices and play Double Agent.
There's also the fact that the actions of these villanous groups are already blatant enough for plenty of people to think some group is behind the events that keep escalating conflicts (it just happens that military leaders are using those as an excuse to go to war).

There are many ways to solve these issues in the next 4 entries.

That being said, it's a shame this new story happened to be so short, event though it took so long to get released. I mean, Umineko was released 1 year after Higurashi ended, and yet Ciconia came out nearly 9 years after the end of Umineko.

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>>22333616
her smile and omochikaeri: gone

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>>22333611
>I don't see it as complicated as the story has already given us the Who, (the various) How and the Why as to the villain's identity and actions.
We have absolutely no ideas about the why, we know next to nothing about the villains. The true villains. "Them". We don't know what "they are". We don't know what is the meat factory, what happened in WWIII, if we are or not in a VR, what is exactly the connection to the book of Revelation, who or what is meta Miyao, what is Miyao expected to be, what's Seshat's plan, what's Toujirou plan, what's Mother plan, what's inside the Ark, what are the blue A.I things, why Lingji had a golden gauntlet in the final fight, what is Wisdom, etc.

There are in fact far more open questions this time than in Umineko episode 1. The only way you can treat Ciconia as a closed story is if you literally misunderstood 95% of the story, and no-one is that retard-

>What is Jestress' endgame, and is it aligned to the Three Kings' endgame? Is she Miyao's mother? If she's his mother, is she her biological mother, or just the mother of either of the apps that call themselves Miyao?
Nevermind. You are.

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>>22333722
>I don't think it would be that hard to think how the end of humanity is prevented (assuming that's what R07 is aiming for). For example, even withing the villains' ranks, you seem to have several factions: 1) The Three Kings, 2) Toujirou, 3) Sesshat, 4) 34, and 5) even Jestress seems to have her own agenda. So, it shouldn't be surprising if, at some point, they start messing with each other. In fact, they already have, since Sesshat already messed with a member from 34's faction, and it's very likely that the info about the crop killing virus was leaked by Toujirou's Order.
>Also, one of the spies could end up regretting their choices and play Double Agent.
Right, you really did not understand the story.

The Three Kings, Seshat, and Toujirou, want to save humanity. The Three Kings' plan for it is to erase civilization to guide humanity toward the right path, a plan that both Seshat and Toujirou support, albeit Seshat doesn't seem to think highly of it and is neutral toward it. All that in order to prevent the end of humanity, as predicted by the book of Revelation, when "they" come.

Takano, who is Toujirou's ex-wife and likely privy of a fuckload of secrets, fucked off at some point and splintered, creating the Order of the Ark. Ark presumably being an artefact left by "them", though what's inside is a mystery. She's considered treasonous by both the Three Kings and Seshat's Order of Prometheus.

"Them" could the VR admins for all we know. They could be aliens. Proto-humans. Humanity's future. Ciconia could be inside a simulation, or memories of what really happened as minds are integrated into a simulation, or a closed time loop. We don't know.

What is absolutely certain, though, is that the end-goal of Ciconia won't be beating the Three Kings. They're not the main villain. The fact that Seshat wants to save humanity from "them" and is still somewhat backing the Three Kings should have given you a huge hint somewhere along the line.

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>>22333611
the core mysteries of Higurashi and Umineko could also have been answered in a much more contained story. Ryukishi mostly does character exploration and muh social commentary, and given the number of characters in ciconia he could easily do a question- and answerarc for each of the main factions and their respective ideological pathologies.

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>>22333226

>Nearly everything is so clear cut that it hardly leaves any room to discuss anything.

ok then tell me who are the kings?
who are the traitors?
what is pandora?
who is "them"?
why is everything Miyao's fault?
how does dark Miyao knows the future?
is everything VR or not?

[Anonymous No.]

xth for Marica farts

[Anonymous No.]

>>22333676
>but also beating the antagonists
Ep 1's of Higurashi and Umineko didn't even establish the antagonist

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334680
EP1 tea party establish Beato as the antagonist

[Anonymous No.]

face it, people just wanted Umineko two

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[Anonymous No.]

>>22334703
this comment is funny because that's exactly what was being said with Umineko starting with ep2 and people wanting Higurashi 2 (3?)

[Anonymous No.]

autist is back

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[Anonymous No.]

>>22334779
FIXED

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>>22330431
I'd love to see edit or drawing of Bern in that outfit

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>>22330431
That's not my fetish, but I think that if it is, it's a really neat idea. I can abstractly appreciate the fetish behind it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334779
Rude filename, cute picture

[Anonymous No.]

>>22331599
i wasnt betrayin you
you are fucking obnoxious and i wanted to filther you more easily,nothing more

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334709
i hate this fanbase to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone give me the erika theory ?, i actually want to read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334910
sperg literally spams the pastebin in all threads look here >>22327983
it's cringy but at least is funny and he put efforts on it

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>>22334097
>The fact that Seshat wants to save humanity from "them" and is still somewhat backing the Three Kings should have given you a huge hint somewhere along the line.
not that anon, but aren't the 3 kings also doing this in order to prevent something from happening? they are trying to prevent the "end of civilisation", and consider what they're doing a better alternative compared to that.
i assumed that seshat and the 3K were talking about the same thing. basically that "them", the "end of civilization", and maybe even the factory "hell" that miyao saw are all part of the same process. didn't the 3K also talk about bringing players to the table at one point?

there definitely will be differences between the order of prometheus and the 3K, but i don't think they are clear yet. i figure it has something to do with what seshat did at the end of the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334910
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
here read it all
for the solution of chiru wait

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>>22334917
>>22334924
Thanks anons

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>>22334917
why is cringy?

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>>22334930
if you didn't understand some parts, tell me I'll be happy to explain it to you

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>>22334811
could you behave like less annoying? i mean it's okay you have your theory and that's nice but that doesn't mean that you have to be obsessed and do edits of literally everything that shows shkanon or Ikuko, do your own art don't be disrepectful with the artist original beliefs.

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>>22334939
Okay gonna read this now but if you can answer my question before i start.
Wouldn't erikatrice contradict knox's decalogues first rule since erika was introduced at the last parts of the story instead of the beginning like everybody else ?

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>>22334953
kanon was introduced on the start and in the 5th game erika is just an accomplice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334948
man you sound like a tumbrl girl during steven universe whitewashing

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>>22334961
the detective can't be the culprit
why would she wan't to crush the witch ilussion if she's the witch?
what's the point of her battle between she and battler in EP8 or even Battle for the golden land?

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>>22334965
you are right, i exaggerated i fucking hate you and i will hide your post from now, thanks

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>>22334923
>not that anon, but aren't the 3 kings also doing this in order to prevent something from happening? they are trying to prevent the "end of civilisation", and consider what they're doing a better alternative compared to that.
Yep. They're doing it in order to guide humanity toward the right path, and to prevent "them" from coming. IIRC in the first (or second) Three Kings scene, they specifically say that.

Which is obviously why Seshat is backing the Three Kings, at least by not interfering. She seems to believe their plan is brutish, but not so much as to interfere. She seems to believe that it is a reasonable plan, all things considered, though it lacks in finesse.

>i assumed that seshat and the 3K were talking about the same thing. basically that "them", the "end of civilization", and maybe even the factory "hell" that miyao saw are all part of the same process. didn't the 3K also talk about bringing players to the table at one point?
Yep, again. That's the point I made. There are some people that don't understand that they're talking about the same things, and believe the Three Kings are the ultimate villains, with Seshat being a villain too, and all of Ciconia is about stopping them. The point is that the solution is not stopping the Three Kings, Seshat, or Toujirou: they are adamantly on the side of humanity there. They could be wrong of course. But they aren't the main villain.

>there definitely will be differences between the order of prometheus and the 3K, but i don't think they are clear yet. i figure it has something to do with what seshat did at the end of the story.
Good reading. The Order of Prometheus is specifically said to have splintered from the Ninth Prime Knight Orders. Those are under direct control from the Three Kings. To reiterate, Seshat's Order splintered from the Three Kings own knights. By that, we can assume that:

1. Seshat knows all about the Three Kings.
2. She, and her order, disagree on something significant. A goal, a plan of action.
3. She, and her order, don't fight against the Three Kings directly, and indeed seems to consider them perfectly reasonable, albeit a little dimwitted.

That last part is inferred by the numerous snickering remarks Seshat does against the Three Kings, but her support to their extinction plan.

[Anonymous No.]

Reading haworthia now, it's so confusing

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>>22334967
in the 5th game erika was just an accomplices
.was a diffference type of revange not anymore against battler but agains natsuhi
the plan was george would have committed the murders and erika would have accused natsuhi of its for killing the most important thing of natsuhi his reputation.

>why would she wan't to crush the witch ilussion if she's the witch?
meta erika is not aware of being yasu
remember the last 2 red truths:
erika "I am the visitor, the 18th human on Rokkenjima !!:"
-Battler "Even if you do join us-" "" That makes 17 humans. "
can be interpreted as:
erika = i am human
battler: no you're just yasu's fantasy of being a detective, you are not human "



the eighth game is all in the head of ange

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335006
so that would make Battler the detective in EP5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334993
that's a good summary.

The thing that i don't undestand is why they need to kill almost all of the people to save them

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335019
no
its erika red truth
the detective cant be the culprit
culprit mean:someone who killed someone.
but the detective can be an accomplice:
someone who helps a culprit, he can't kill anyone.

do you really believe that erika thought that natsuhi was the culprit?

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>>22335063
i can hardly believe that sorry, the detective is someone who seeks for the truth it can't be the accomplice that make no sense she's isn't even an early character.
I maybe can believe the kanon thing but making the detective an accomplice is nonsense, sorry

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>>22335042
That's the crux of the problem, isn't it? That and if we're really into VR or not. And the weird prophecies. And what exactly is "them".

There's a rainbow of possible solutions, but none confirmed. Let's say we're in VR. "Them" are the VR admins. Maybe killing 99% of false humanity will make them notice that something is going wrong with the simulation? Maybe they'll descend down to discuss the term of the simulation with humanity? Maybe we could hack the server then?

Let's say we aren't in VR yet. "Them" could be aliens that prophecized their arrivals long ago. Once civilization reach a particular point they rip all of our brains to put it into the Matrix. Maybe killing 99% of humanity is a way to ensure we will never reach that level of civilization? Maybe that's the Three Kings plan? Maybe Seshat finds that stupid and want to fight back? Maybe she has a plan?

There are no definite answers on that core mystery. It's the real question. Also what with Pandora, what is she expected to do, maybe bug out the Matrix, or something. And what about the Ark, and time travel? Could it be a closed loop?

I dunno. What's certain is that the goal of Ciconia is not about stopping the Three Kings and Seshat, and if you believe it so, you didn't understand the story.

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>>22335079
erika knew the answer to the enigma of the epigraph.
she could not know of kinzo's taiwan life, but especially when he told to the parents that the epigraph was the way for kinzo to choose the new successor erika said a curious thing,
that since the enigma had not appeared in the newspapers it meant that it was reserved for family members.

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT EPIGRAPH WAS NOT APPEARED ON THE NEWSPAPERS IF IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IT SEEN IT !!!

Try to read my manifesto
remember what ronove said:this game dont have love,it's dishonorable.
the real detective was bernkastle.

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I'm reading it but you lose a lot of credibility with all that fucked up english man, is it not your first language ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335124
Yes
Read dont worry even if is written in bad english you can understand

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>>22335121
But that's because Erika was bern's piece, so she knew everything about Kinzo from the 4 previos games thanks to bern.

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>>22335137
Honestly man i like it a lot, it's a breath of fresh air from that weird humiliation anon when it comes to talking about umineko here, but i don't really believe ryukshi would do all of that story and leave it at that after so many years and not tell an actual ending.
But i like it nonetheless especially since it involves a different spin using erika's character which i can never get enough of

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>>22335121
And you just cant say "the real detective was Bernkastel" when it's stated in red that Erika was the detective

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>>22335163
this theory requires the meta
mine can completely separate the game plan from the meta one.
now the greatest revelation of my theory
erika is not a bern pawn.
Why erika solved the epigraph?
to gain trust from others,
so that everyone saw her as a genius and when she will accused natsuhi no one would doubt of her.
so erika obtained the authority of the detective by resolving the epigraph not from BERN!!!
BERN was literrally baited by erika.

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>>22335225
erika is a detective but the "detective who try to solve the mistery wasnt her but bern"
erika was trying to have natsuhi accused of committing crimes.
erika knew very well that kinzo didn't exist but she continued with obsession to accuse natsuhi when bern in alliance of the golden witch denied that she was the culprit

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>>22335165
> but i don't really believe ryukshi would do all of that story and leave it at that after so many years and not tell an actual ending.

he wanted to create an unsolvable eternal story but the editors of the manga wanted a solution so he confirmed the most popular one and now for the contracts he signed he can't change revail the true.
but I know he is still waiting for someone to find the truth
and I just did it

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>>22335281
fast send it to him!

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>>22335308
Before i must complete my manifesto.
Gain popolarity and find others who will help me to improve it
Ryukishi will hear about it,will read it and he will cry after 10 years finnally someone who find the true

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>>22332191
>>22332091
>in bed for a month unable to control herself
does this mean Rika has canonically worn diapers?

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one mystery that interests me is the whole family situation of miyao, especially miyao's mother. like what side she stands on this as well as her identity. her character seems bigger-than-life, whereas 34 seems like she doesn't care about anything other than wisdom (all ark members become like this apparently). some hawthoria anons mentioned clones, so i started thinking that maybe 34 is a clone of the real vier, digital or not.

another issue with vier lies with the core idea of "ciconia". did she physically give birth to miyao? i don't think that's something that can be hidden from miyao given how famous she was. but maybe there is a cover up going on just like with sayo. also the timeline might not add up.

>>22335116
yeah i think we still lack information.

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>>22335019
Debateable. The real crime occured later which was not shown. Since detectives are allowed to trick/trap culprits in some kind of way in mystery novels Umineko shouldn't be an exception. It's not unusual the real culprit would go to the sleuth's agency to make him/her look "innocent". The problem in the 5th game is Natsuhi's and Krauss' fraud and they are the "baddies". Also, Battler doesn't necessarely call Natsuhi and Battler could have witnessed a dead Kinzo.
It is strange Battler would torment Natsuhi, then he helped her in Kinzo's study...

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>>22335063
>do you really believe that erika thought that natsuhi was the culprit?
No, because Erika doesn't give a shit who the culprit is. She only wants to wave her logic dick around for everyone to see, that much is established in her first appearance.
You should also remember that Bern doesn't actually intend to defeat Battler, she and Lambda openly declare that Battler cannot lose this game (or rather, that Beatrice can't win) in ep4 tea party I think.

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>>22335522
>You should also remember that Bern doesn't actually intend to defeat Battler


>No, because Erika doesn't give a shit who the culprit is.
Natsuhi guilty has nothing logical
with the golden truth battler destroyed all erika logic and she instead of change strategy she continued to blame natsuhi because that was her only goal.

in the 5th game battler and erika had tied why?
all 2 explained the mysteries without using magic, this is the goal of the detective but none of them had won because?
because the goal of the the detective in this game was not to show that all crimes are possible for humans but show that natsuhi is the culprit !!!

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>>22335607
there are literally two reds in regards to ep5 that say "ushiromiya natsuhi is not the culprit"
the goal of the detectives was to show/prove something that did not happen, seems legit

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>>22335116
Nice, i wonder if the blue things are the aliens or they transform people in those weird things.
The end with blue Jayden was really weird, it has some Devilman/Evangelion vibes for me.

And the last thing is Lingji with the blue girl's gauntlet

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>>22335624
Knox's 2n
It is forbidden for supernatural agencies to be employed as a detective technique.

this red wasnt valid dlanor destroy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335624
Don't lose your time anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335637
no one speak with you
discord tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335648
>discord tranny
i don't even use discord, newfag.

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>>22335635
Just because something is invalid doesn't mean it's not true; after all, "The red only tells the truth", "The red truth is simply truth, and there is no need to provide evidence, proof, or room for a counterargument", "The red truth is absolute!! A perfect truth, which no one can overturn no matter how hard they try!!" - all reds btw
unless you want to argue that red truths are not trustworthy (as technically they all violate Knox' 2nd), in which case I submit that the crime was done by Okonogi's massive cumshot falling on Rokken Island

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>>22334393
With the way phase 1 focuses on AOU, it's clear that's what's going to happen.

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>>22335121
She read the Rokkenjima newspaper and saw that the epitaph was not there.

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>>22335669
at the end of the 5th game lambda said:
erika's theory with natsuhi culprit cannot be denied like battler's theory so it's a tie.

battler is now on the side of witches and in his theory witches are denied.
therefore both in the theory of battler and erika 's theory witches must not exist but the faction of the witch does not lose but draw.
so the goal of the game was not to show that crimes are possible for humans.

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>>22335691
based.
gohda is a really bad publisher.

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>>22335635
The red truth hadn't any backup. Red truths by the game master are valid as they provide hints for the game or counter blue truth.
Battler had the opportunity to counter Erika's theory with "a witch did it". That opportunity was that nobody could have moved the bodies Krauss' death was accepted in red and Kinzo's death was a mere fact which was disregarded for evulz. Also, Eva had the chance to kill Genji. But Battler

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335775
george said to rosa and cousins :
"erika is so bored make a fake murder case for made her happy"
after the discover he made them moved and kill them,kill genji,krauss,his father and himself.
this is what happened in erikantrice theory not battler
in all the games the culprit are the same just this time kanon\erika is jut an accomplice.

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>>22335820
what? That's a balant assumption you cant base a serious theory on that

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>>22335347
That's what happened to comatose people.

Remember Ayu from Kanon? She literally spent 7 years with a tube up her butt making her poop. And when she woke up at the end of her route, all the doctors there had seen her pathetic human body for years since she was a cute loli.

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>>22335882
why?
in my theory in every games the culprit are the same.
george can commit all the murders and erika can accuse natsuhi of them.
the perfect crime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335897
I'm talking about
>"erika is so bored make a fake murder case for made her happy"
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335915
I mean george convinced rosa maria and jessica to pretend to be dead
Even in 6th game people accept
Genji is an accomplice.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how high school Ange would react to being stripped naked by her bullies and forced to walk around the school like that, her hairy pussy and pathetic ass crack exposed as everyone mocks her. Her decently sized breasts bouncing in a lewd way as someone plays with them. Her naked body being kicked and punched by girls her age as she falls to the floor and starts crying.

I mean, if a witch tortured her to the point of making her faint or scream in agony, that'd be understandable. If a witch killed her entire family in front of her, she'd start crying and screaming in sorrow. But how the fuck would she react when she finds herself butt naked in front of her entire class? It's so unpredictable! It's such an awkward situation, she would probably behave erratically.

On one hand, she'd want to scream, cover herself or try to get away from the bullies. But on the other hand, her life is already ruined and there is no point in fighting back anymore. She may as well enjoy her own humiliation in a twisted way and do everything they tell her to do, being reduced to furniture. Giving up on her humanity and pride is the only way to get over the fact that she's butt naked in front of everyone. Otherwise, she'd have to bear the pain of being so thoroughly humiliated while she still values her dignity.

The unpredictability of a broken Ushiromiya Angste! Lewd! I bet her reaction would be super fun to watch, as her confused mind alternates between trying to preserve her dignity and giving up on it. She may even collapse because the situation is so overwhelming.

Can you imagine reading that whole scene from Ange's perspective? Becoming invested in a character's story and wanting her to succeed only to see her experience a degrading humiliation that crushes all her hopes is the best! It gives the story a bad ending that makes you feel awful, but at the same time you kinda enjoy the trainwreck because it's such an intense scene where you get to see a human being reduced to a worthless piece of meat. Lewd!

Imagine Maria and Mammon seeing all of that. Ange will never be able to have a conversation with them ever again, because she'll be really embarrassed. They witnessed her degradation, they heard her pathetic begging and screaming as one of the bullies forced pencils into her ass while another filmed everything with a 90s video camera.

Umineko is such a lewd series. Ryukishi belongs in a mental institution. What do you think, everyone?

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>>22335944
>What do you think, everyone?
I think Erika's pussy looks edible.

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I just want to sucking Bern's nipples, spank her ass and lick her pussy all at once

[Anonymous No.]

>>22335941
And Erikanon made the calls to torment Natsuhi.

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>>22334703
>not liking Ciconia for what it is
what the fuck

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>>22335895
the length of time also means Rika would need physical therapy and likely became incontinent

[Anonymous No.]

I remember reading somewhere that K1 later dies of a heart attack even in the Matsuribayashi world, is that true or did I get trolled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22336022
yes
it's all a big plan of revange like in many mistery novels.

[Anonymous No.]

The human condition of Ushiromiya Ange, lewd, pathetic,humiliating!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22327888
Maricarmen killed all the peace talkers and investigators with one of her explosive farts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22332257
>Beatrice
more like Beat-reeks, am I right? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334703
So Umineko Saku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334703
I just need more witch lore, the magic part of Umineko was so interesting and felt like it could be its own universe

[Anonymous No.]

NANJO IS CUTE!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22336915
*vanishes your dick and balls*

[Anonymous No.]

>>22336991
hocus pocus your dick is out of focus

[Anonymous No.]

Can you imagine fucking a lewd ass loli kiddo such as Satoko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337131
>wanting Satoko's naked human loli arse anywhere near you
That's fucked up. Ask some other loli in her class and they'll probably refuse to lick Satoko's ass. That means that her ass is objectively disgusting, even though she's super cute and lewd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334995
Did you read the booklet first?

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is the wtc fanbase the most ungrateful fanbase?

>umineko releases
>fuck you ryukishi we want higurashi 2 what the fuck is this meta shit?

>ciconia releases
>fuck you ryukishi we want umineko 2 what the fuck is this sci-fi shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337537
I'm not seeing a lot of that among English-speaking community.

[Anonymous No.]

I love how Rena and Keiichi argue about the buried corpses in front of a bunch of terrrified hostage children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337537
How strong is Bern's tail? Can she hang clothes on it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337537
AHEM.....
no tranny in umineko

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337633

w-what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337636
it's a bait, don't bother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337636
kanon isnt shannon
kanon is erika and ikuko
yasu is a cute tomboy and battler love her

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334703
>people want something they already like over something new
Yes, that is a general flaw of humanity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337744
KEK confirmed erikantrice

[Anonymous No.]

>Test tube repoduction in A3W
>Miyao's the most powerful Gauntlet Knight in existence.
>Possible that Miyao is a Genetically Engineered Hermaphrodite created to become the perfect solder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337825
ehh...you could say it without posting *pthu* a frog

[Anonymous No.]

Erikanontrice discussion seriously ruined this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334703
Nah, I'm content with Ciconia. I just want 8 phases. Please just give me 8 fucking phases so Ciconia can be amazing and not an amputee's stub sticking out of the franchise with a meager four phases.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/wnextooo/status/1189164958686138368
Happy halloween

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337764
The biggest flaw of humanity is that even cute lolis poop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337939
How would being a hermaphrodite help him in battle?

I think Toujirou and Vier just implanted a male personality program with the most desirable traits in their daughter's brain when she was a fetus. Toujirou doesn't give a fuck about his flawed, nerdy, non-genetically engineered ciconia-born daughter, he only cares about his perfectly programmed "son" who has the right personality to achieve his father's goals and become his piece without realizing it.

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>>22337939
He's the most powerful gauntlet knight because he's a fucking schizo with DID. The only reason he surpasses other schizos is that his personality is suited for this stuff and he's really good at training, improving massively with little effort. If Meow wasn't there he wouldn't be shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Can I get a quick rundown on everything that recently came out? It's been delayed so many times that I lost interest and only came back now.

From what I gather, the first episode of Ciconia came out and there's gonna be four of them, as for Umineko, one episode came out (where can you get it?) and there aren't any other episodes planned, is this correct?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338111
You're correct, but the Umineko episode hasn't been translated far as I know.

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized... What if Meow is the person talking to the blue spook during those creepy scenes? The nametag conveniently disappears whenever this person talks, and only appears again when "Miyao" is talking about his prophecies and accusing the nameless person of being a murder program.

We always assumed that this person was Miyao, but he not only doesn't freak out on the outside after those creepy scenes, he doesn't even remember or think about this evil version of himself at any point during the story. He only remembers the spook whenever he shows up with more prophecies, only to forget all about him as soon as he leaves.

What if it's Meow who is arguing with the spook every time? What if she's the one being accused of being a murder program? Maybe that's why she's strangely absent during most of the story and says shady stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

It's weird how they spend three lines talking about the king of sorrow's ggranddaughter and describing her as wonderful. It could be nothing, but what if this granddaughter is one of the spies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338139
I'm leaning toward it being Miyao because I think Meow would have a much stronger reaction. Miyao is a soldier, trained to kill. The speaker seems to take issue with the fact that they can be forced to kill against their will, not that they're killing. Meow would be more confused, saying she isn't a fighter at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Battler Blanco

Jorge Gordo

Anónimo Humillación

Lobezno a todo gas

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338181
Meow mentions that she fights together with Miyao so that shouldn't be an issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>22334703
My only issues with Ciconia so far are too much political discussion/social commentary and not enough character focus. That can mostly be chalked up to the setting, as Ryukishi needs to establish the worldbuilding early on. I'm confident it'll be remedied in later Phases. My only other concern is the possibility of only having 4 Phases total and no time loop, which we don't know for sure yet anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338253
with us not even given the privilege of being players this time around, I'm not sure there will even be a loop

[Anonymous No.]

>>22329531
>>22329590
>>22329612
Boob edits anon do you have a place where I can find your other edits? It's kind of a pain in the ass to find them through the jaypee archives with specific keywords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338391
That'd be a real shame. That's always been one of the biggest features of WTC. It doesn't even feel like WTC without it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338420
Sure, I'll try and upload them all somewhere. There's a bunch though and they're kinda scattered so it'll take a bit to organize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338253
it's confirmed that will be only 4 phases.

https://0707toshokan.wordpress.com/2019/10/13/famitsu-special-interview/

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338139
I think it's more likely to just be meta in some way. And I don't mean Umineko style meta necessarily, but just some kind of meta. Like how Umineko can be viewed as just a bunch of message bottles and the actual story is in Ange's time, this arc could be something else and this meta conversation is taking place in the future or something. Or there's the whole simulation theory

[Anonymous No.]

Experiencing the spiritual richness of humiliation is like finding out you can turn lead into gold but that lead is all you need and deserve and that it's precious in a way nobody else will ever understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338635
leave Ange alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338139
yeah, not unlikely at all. i agree that the person probably isn't the same miyao as the one see in the real world.
i actually thought that it might be someone (something) else entirely within miyao, partly because of pic related, but meow makes sense here too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338608
Did he confirm that there will be no WTC6 Ciconia? Technically both Higurashi and Umineko were also 4 parts each before their continuations released.

[Anonymous No.]

Erika watching you masturbate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22336669
her secret weapon as a gauntlet knight is "Esplosive toxic fart"

[Anonymous No.]

This exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddJHCUmIC8M

[Anonymous No.]

Is it true that higurashi no naku koro ni has some colloquial meaning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338908
That's fucking gold, they got the chapters 1-4-esque wordplay trick feel down pat

[Anonymous No.]

>>22337994
Really delete my message.
Its battler pepe and
Even ciconia have pepe

[Anonymous No.]

Lambda:
in this game or battler will remember yasu or she will realize her dream of becoming a detective and solve the mystery she created.
In both cases I will make my friend happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338003

to be fair it took me 20 hours to read himatsubushi
but 30 to read ciconia

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338391

>with us not even given the privilege of being players this time around

>says this
>puts the difficulty rating in the chapter and Toujiro says that if you stop thinking you aren't even human

he's clearly trolling us

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338908

>no fire existed in my mother's house at all today
>principal skinner and seymour both appear in the end credits

this was gold
never seen so much effort for a single meme

it's also a very good way to make people understand how umineko works lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338908
>Without love, it cannot be steamed
cracks me up every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22339928
Exactly it's art

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338908
this is amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22339916
Miyao's face really reminds me battler confused face lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338908

by the way does somebody has that alternate explanation of one of the erika closed rooms?

the one that says "the president of zimbawe is in the cousins room" or some shit like that

it was a video where the characters explain how the rest of the world outside the duct taped room what the other room

i know you have it come on

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340185
can't unseen it now

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340192
this one ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlyqr5nbw74

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340185

oh no...
you ruined it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340192
Yes i was looking for that one too, it was the genious who made Gohdatrice

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340193
>>22340204
I'm sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340192
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
MY THEORY ERIKANTRICE

Erika=kanon this explaine everything
kanon can save battler from the inside and return erika.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338724
I think Ryukishi confimed it when he said "Ciconia will have 4 arcs total", meaning that it won't be a series of questions/answers arcs like the previous 4 entries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340222
Post the soulless version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340414

[Anonymous No.]

Umineko on onscripster plus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340527
The only problem is that this is quite bugged and that there is no animated rain from what I have seen. Does anyone know a solution?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340383
That makes sense, as Ciconia is not a mystery-heavy series (there are some mysteries, but they're like shonen "mysteries", you're supposed to find out what they are later) and as such there is no need for answer arcs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340200

yes! thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340200
holy shit that's an amazing and funny way to solve the error, dude is awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

prepare 3 cards one with written spring , one with written winter and one with written autumn.
put the spring card under the phone
put the winter card under the bed
put the autumn card under the clock
if natsuhi answers spring tell her to look under the phone
if natsuhi answers winter tell her to look under the bed
if natsuhi answers fall tell her to look under the clock

simple because natsuhi answers before finding the card, this level of reasoning is possible for italian anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340595
>>22340600
uhh dunno about the bug but do you have a download link? re-reading umineko on the phone would be pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92sktpPVhLY

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340888

jesus

what a terrible trailer

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340900
Rude, it's not that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Post cute Ryukishi art
https://twitter.com/KinosakiAyano/status/903202496184647680

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340847
Just download onscripster plus (it's on the play store) and use the old witch hunt fantranslated version of Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

Walls of peace Walls of peace Walls of peace Walls of peace Walls of peace Walls of peace

Sprouts of War Sprouts of War Sprouts of War
Sprouts of War Sprouts of War Sprouts of War

Youngs are the main protagonists of the era!

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone done sprite work to give MARIA and ANGE their pretty outfits as potatoes?

[Anonymous No.]

post it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341064
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/3376836

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341084
My eyes

[Anonymous No.]

How did such a beautiful youkai fall in love with an arse-having human loli?

[Anonymous No.]

Attention all fellow comrades supporting the Walls of Peace, Miyao is in trouble, but in order to destroy the Sprouts of War, he needs your combined Spiritium Power! All he needs is for you to give him access to your gauntlets, your Kizuna info AND the 8 numbers on the back of your Ciconia-reliant parent's credit card.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341138
Youkai can't get enough of Ass, haven't you ever read up on Kappa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341146
fuck off schizo i'm not giving you shit

meow a cute tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341138
Well when Mari died she no longer poops so it's okay
>>22341146
Nice! I'll do everything to support Miyao

[Anonymous No.]

Ciconia being popular enough would be cool because maybe 07th expansion can make fighter game!
Imagine playing as your favourite gauntlet knight

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341171
But I can already play as her in Donkey Kong Country 2!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341146
07151129!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341138
>implying

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341180
>tfw Shannon/Kanon/Yasu was a P3 but she born to early to develop her powers
Unfair

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341176
w-what? Dixie Kong is a gauntlet knight!?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341184
Yasu was a larper pretending her tulpas were a legit mental illness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341184
ANGE would be broken with the Seven Stakes for offense and Sakutaro using diplomatic immunity to dissuade all Reaper's Eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341187
Roleplay just went too far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341191
>tfw Chiester Sisters were already using the reaper's eye 10 years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341191
Ange got humiliated so hard that she's the mastermind behind the brain factory, she doesn't want anyone to suffer the human condition bullying anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341203
Sounds like the foundation of a Spiritium Field to me! Ange is a fellow supporter of the Walls of Peace! or a planter of the Sprouts of War.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you will never see the cinnamon roll idiot chukhna cat again since loops are over and done and overdone

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340834
Natsuhi says in red: "I never told anyone except Shannon that I like autumn."
This was after she told the "man from 19 years ago" that she liked autumn.
Therefore this means that Shannon is the "man from 19 years ago" and didn't need to prepare more than 1 card because she already knew what she would answer. This level of reasoning is possible for anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341239
Her and Koshka will surely come back. They will be endgame. Or else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341239
She was my fav character, i hope that she didn't actually died.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341251
It was Kanon who asked Shannon about the seasons when he overheard, but Shannon kept mum about which season. Knowing that it would give away his goals and place suspicion on himself as being the Man from 19 Years Ago, he came up with the multiple seasons plan. Just with the existence of Kanon gossiping with Shannon, this level of reasoning is possible for Anon. What do you think, everyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341261
Baseless assumptions,that's what everyone thinks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341266
>you will never get to second base with Erika, Kanon, or Ikuko

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341261
Kanon can't be the "man from 19 years ago." This is because Natsuhi said that she only told Shanon about it, but she also told the "man from 19 years ago." This means the "man from 19 years ago" is Shannon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341283
Kanon's lying to her, just like he's lying about his age, as he is really 16 years old. He just wants money from the Ushiromiya family.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341297
Why would he want the money if he's the succesor?
Do you remember that the motive of the crime is not money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341297
Not sure where you're getting at. Regardless of whether Kanon lied about anything, this doesn't change that the person on the phone speaking with Natsuhi ("the man from 19 years ago") was Shannon, and Shannon knew her favorite season, so there was no need for tricks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340945

i realized that ryu drawings aren't so bad
even the higurashi ones
it's the colouring that fucks them up hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341019

based and Walls of Peacepilled

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341316
Mion is Ryukishi's cutest character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341313
It's only a third-rate mystery, anon!

>>22341315
But you just said it yourself, it was the Man from 19 Years Ago, so it can't be Shannon. There is a need for tricks so that Natsuhi will automatically suspect Shannon despite this gender difference so that Kanon will be in the perfect spot to steal cash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341239

god i would be so mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341316
That's exactly why remotaro is coloring them in Ciconia now, even Ryukishi said in the last interview that someone in past told him that he needed someone to do the coloring.
It happen to ZUN too

[Anonymous No.]

>>22327877
What do people think about the possibility of the current Ciconia world being an artificial one, it could be the result of an hijacking of the initial virtual heaven plan. The 8ms existence and ww3 not being recorded are pretty suspicious things, there's also another possible interference with history with the removal of the book of revelation from biblical canon.

I'm a brainlet but what do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341332
>it was the Man from 19 Years Ago, so it can't be Shannon
He said that shannon was the man of 18 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341332
Why can't it be Shannon, even though according to the red truth it can only be Shannon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341316
yeah i was very surprised at how relatively clean the lines were

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341341
Who is the Seven-Headed Dragon? Could it be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341350
Pussy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341352
I want to die between Lucy's thighs!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341357
Nice argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341359
Aren't there 6 better options?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340945

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Jessica is Gohda's biological daughter, and Krauss' sperm is too weak for him to be considered a worthy successor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341357
It's never said in red that the man from 19 years ago is a man!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341341

i think that Erika is really hot

that aside i never tought about the possibility of an hijacked VR that's a really good theory.
personally i think that ryukishi made it so obvious with the VR that it's probably not going to be VR.
but it also could be a double troll.
the problem is that if everything is VR why do they talk about the factory as a future to avoid?
i remember someone saying that the point is to prevent the factory but that doesn't make sense if everyone is already in VR

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341239
>chukhna

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341382
Blues with PP are just vessels/shells for the chosen ones of their factories/spiritium fields that have the murder programs needed to make good Gauntlet Knights.

[Anonymous No.]

Okonogi and Chloe's relationship:
https://youtu.be/2KmxYPLS6Wk

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341251
yes but with my theory everyone can do the same
not only shannon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341459
It's possible to do the trick, but it didn't happen that way, because Shannon had no reason to do the trick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341466
Chessboard theory, flip it turnways. Shannon was framed by the Man from 19 Years Ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341469
Impossible because Shannon is the "man from 19 years ago." How can you be framed by yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341469
and what proof do you have for that?
it's an assumption, just because something can happen doesn't mean that it happened, it's anticlimatic

[Anonymous No.]

Whatever happened to Satoko's disgusting corpse in Minagoroshi? Was her cute body cremated, burning to a crisp and slowly melting away in gross slow motion? Or was she thrown into a ditch along with her friends to be eaten by bugs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341376
Jessitrice was actually good, Fusiontrice too.
I miss the old days, now people don't let Umineko die in piece and just spam shitposts, sometimes i come back to /a/ or /jp/ for nostalgia tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341466
in my theory kanon|erika want to revange

the red truth say:
>I never told anyone except Shannon that I like autumn.
not:
>I never told anyone except Shannon that I dont like summer.
so you don't have to know about autumn is enough that natsuhi said a season x as a favorite (summer is eliminated by default) and you can tell to her one of the 3 cards.

this level of reasoning is possible for italian anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341481
do not bully the satoggo

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341487
red truth:
>Her goal is not to make someone experience fear. And it isn't to have revenge on someone either.
if Erika is Kanon that make her Beato too, and that violates that red truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341481
I bet the mountain dogs took lots of lewd pictures of Shion and Mion's naked bodies, forcing them into sexy lesbian action with their bloody faces covered up.

And then they released those on the internet 30 years later, to further humiliate them and tain their memory in the minds of those who knew them in life!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341376
bern game can be solved with gohda and jessica as culprits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341481
She turned into gold butterflies and scattered away. A loli's body can't possibly be disgusting in any way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341473
>>22341477
Battler is the Man from 19 Years Ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341495
nope
the personality of erika is not the personality of kanon,beatrice ecc
read my manifesto

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341497
Good luck doing that with those shitty 80s cameras.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341487
That's irrelevant, because Shannon already knew what her favorite season was, and Shannon is the "man from 19 years ago". So the man from "19 years ago" already knows what her favorite season is and doesn't need to pull the trick.

>>22341505
Impossible, the red truth says that Natsuhi only told Shannon what her favorite season was, but she also told the "man from 19 years ago" her favorite season. This means Shannon is the "man from 19 years ago" and for Battler to also be the "man from 19 years ago" he would need to be Shannon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341506
that stil don't make sense, her goal was not revenge even if she's using another personality the final goal of the game is not revenge.
>>22341505
Battler is 18 years old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341495
look this image
>>22331750

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341511
No, see, Battler is working with Kanon to steal the gold due to their secret correspondence over the 6 years he expelled himself from the family to get revenge on them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341497
>tfw Mion woke up that morning and soaped up her beautiful green bush in the shower, not knowing that she would be dead later that day and her pubes would be ripped out by some sick fuck to keep as a memento
Humiliating! Even after death, her human body remains to be exposed and humiliated! I hope she died knowing this would happen!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341514
again you are violating a red truth, the game goal is not revenge, meta is not relevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341511
>That's irrelevant, because Shannon already knew what her favorite season was

i proof that anyone can be the 19th man understand
you dont need shannon
natsuhi say her prefered season to the 19th man before the discover of the card
so the 19th man could not know about the season.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341521
the revenge is do the same thing she do with battler to natsuhi!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341516
Doesn't disprove what I said.

>>22341523
>i proof that anyone can be the 19th man understand
Impossible, Natsuhi told the "man from 19 years ago" her favorite season and THEN she said in red "that she ONLY told Shannon". If the "man from 19 years ago" isn't Shannon, then the red truth "I never told anyone except Shannon that I like autumn" is a lie, because Natsuhi told "the man from 19 years ago" the she likes autumn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341523
but that would make the red "I never told anyone except Shannon that I like autumn" a lie(wich is impossible), the only red that we have is that Shannon is the only that knew about the spring card, wich makes her the man from the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341497
>implying they didn't cut open Shion's anus and forced Mion's head inside
>implying they didn't leave the corpses there so they would be found by the Okinomiya police
Imagine Mion and Shion being remembered for their degrading deaths and shamefully humiliated corpses! Imagine every person who ever knew them reminiscing about their interactions with the twins and being shocked/disgusted/aroused by their fate, or just morbidly interested in it. Imagine them wondering what their deaths were like and how much they screamed! Mion and Shion wouldn't be remembered for the stuff they wanted to be remembered for, only for their fucked up corpses with one's head forced into the other's gruesome anus!

Imagine them being remembered 100 years later as teenage twins who got their corpses desecrated and humiliated in such a fucked up way. Imagine their biography and every detail about their murder described on wikipedia! Nobody would even know what their personalities were like or how good of a person Mion was. Just their gruesome corpses, twisted and humiliated, would ever be remembered in the future!

The ultimate humiliation!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341517
Why do you hate Mion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341487
Furudo Erika can't be the culprit nor an accomplice because she's the detective and as this red truth says
>Furudo Erika is the detective, and the 'me' in this game isn't one!! And by Knox's 9th, it is permitted for observers to let their own conclusions and explanations be heard...!!
only pieces who aren't the detective are permited to let their own subjective conclusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw I read Umineko thinking that Krauss was cheating on Natsuhi with Shannon and that's why Natsuhi was always pissed off at the servants because of shitposts on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341553
nope
for make the trick you just know about natsuhi dont like summer

no red truth forbit this

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341563
Is humiliation possible if they can't see it from the afterlife? Or do you mean that the Mion in Rena's memory would be humiliated and Rena would be witness to it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341581
don't liking summer doesn't mean that you like spring, that's not enough proof.
Even would be more logical that you like winter if you don't like summer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341535
she told to the 19th man her prefered season during during the phone call.
the red truth i just tell to shannon is a bait to carry all the suspicions on shannon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341589
read this >>22340834

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340834
Sorry but that's an asspull, it's impossible to a crime to be solved without clues presented, there are no clues showing that there where cards hidden in other parts of the room.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341607
the card is a rclue
natsuhi as ordered by the 19th man immediately goes to bed does not have time to check the rest of the room. these 2 facts are enough to deduce the trick of the 3 knox cards is respected

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341607
Mion pulls cards from her ass when she plays with the club members. Does that mean she's actually humiliating herself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341623
they never mention about the existence other cards, that's no clue anon.
The man never said that there where cards hidden in other places

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341579
Reading Umineko (or other mysteries for that matter) is fantastic, I made one dude who was on ep1 believe the Jessitrice thing was legit and he actually believed in that until like ep6
the same dude also deadass believed me when I told him Rantaro was the mastermind in DR1

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341576
There are 2 Erikas in the theory. One of them is some kind of truth "valve" whenever somebody meant sleuth Erika the truth is about her. The piece on the gameboard is an alternate personality and is the culprit.
>Knox's 8th. It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.
Lambda hinted that early in the 5th game. Culprits disguised as detectives are allowed. There are enough obvious scenes where Erika would be disqualified as the detective. It's just another illusion of the witch to put a "stranger" on the island.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341593
>she told to the 19th man her prefered season during during the phone call
Exactly, and she also told Shannon. So how can the red truth "I never told anyone except Shannon that I like autumn" be true? Because Shannon is the "man from 19 years ago."

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341647
>Culprits disguised as detectives are allowed.
show me an screenshoot for that because i don't remember it.
> There are enough obvious scenes where Erika would be disqualified as the detective
but that would contradict the red truth, she's the detective.

two Erikas? are you serious? no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341642
*V3 wtf me

>>22341553
As you said, the red is "I never told anyone except Shannon that I like autumn." - just like >>22341261 noticed, there's nothing stopping Shannon from telling somebody else, so it's hardly a decisive piece of evidence

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341635
george the culprit said he would play cards with maria and jessica
here are the other cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341664
There's nothing stopping Shannon from telling anyone, but that's not the point. Shannon was the only told that by Natsuhi, even though the person on the phone was also told by Natsuhi.

[Anonymous No.]

9 years on /jp/

this is the first time that i'm legit tired of this, anyone know another place to discuss 07th expansion works?

[Anonymous No.]

THIS IMAGE EXPLAINE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE 19TH MAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341721
Well you could make a thread on /v/ if you want, but that would invite it's own problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341742
exactly /v/ it's really in a bad spot imo, i guess i will filther certain words and wait for phase 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341721
the only way is to learn japanese and stick to the almost dead japanese fanbase , wich is like almost zero but at least they know how to accept the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341661
META-ERIKA:the detective personality of yasu but she didnt know of be part of it

GAME-ERIKA:Yasu pretends to be a detective to accuse Natsuhi of committing the murders for deastroy her reputation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341778
only cucks and slaves accept lie as truth
free men fight for find the true

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341786
i asked you to show me the screenshot of Lambda saying that culprits are disguised as detectives

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341798
erika is not the culprit in the 5th game
she is just an accomplice
the culprit is george

[Anonymous No.]

killyourself autistic crossboarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341804
the detective can't be an accomplice, the detective seeks for the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341807
proud of be autistic
but not a fucking crossboarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341823
where is this knox rule about it
said only not culprit.
remember what ronove said:
this game dont have love\honor

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341804
what proof do you have of Erika being connected to Yasu?
Bernkastel literally says that she's her double/piece

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341826
a wojack on /jp/? are you fucking baiting?
get the fuck out of /jp/ faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22340834
This has always seemed like the real intended solution to me as well. "Only Shannon know Natsuhi favourite season, man from 19 years ago know favourite season, therefore man from 19 years ago Shannon" isn't a solution to riddle at all - there's no creative thinking involved at any point, it's basically presented as the obvious face-value reading. In Higurashi there were always hidden layers of complexity to the characters and the club activities, you had to think about what was going on *beyond* the veil of what seemed to be obviously true to see the real story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341832
you don't need a red for that, it's a basic logic in every mystery novel.
If the detective is not the culprit why the fuck would he be an accomplice? that make no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341837
erika didnt saw kanon's body in the wardrobe
because she is kanon.

>Bernkastel literally says that she's her double/piece
and she said that natsuhi is the culprit in all the games
bernkastle was stupid and she was baited by lambda

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341852
culprit-someone who killed someone
accomplice-someone who help the culprit,he cant kill anyone

battler join witch side
battler's theory deny witch
erika theory deny witch
so witch side lost?
nope its a tie why?
because the goal of this game for the detective is proof that natsuhi is the culprit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341857
We know that Lambda was playing with Bern, that's for sure.

But claiming that all of that was just a farce it's retarded, good bye anon, i won't be discussing nonsense with you.

At least rosatrice had some basic logical sense.
This is plain retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341851
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341869
accepting a new truth by giving up everything you believe is difficult you are at the denial stage
but if you are so angry you too have understood that my solution seems true

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341721
what, not enough erikatrice and humiliation shitposting for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341661
>No more than 17 humans exist on this island!! That excludes any 18th person. In short, this 18th person X does not exist!!This applies to all games!!!
>"...Sorry, but..." "Even if you do join us-" ""That makes 17 humans.""
Read between the lines:
>She does not exist in the worlds before this one, nor does she influence them.
It's about worlds, not games. Like Lion's world, Erika can exists in a world, but she doesn't exist in other worlds.
EP5 is the only game where someone (here Genji) could call the police etc. It's a lie btw because the Furudo family/police didn't confirm it (read Erika's TIP from EP6). So it should be clear that Erika's identity isn't really confirmed.

Now then, the only time Erika said in red she is the detective was in EP6 where she is the culprit. In EP5 it was Bernkastel's detective authority that pushed Battler away, not Erika's.
It can make sense that the mastermind overheard the coast guard radio that someone named Erika Furudo went missing on the sea.
Well, it's just an interpretation but it makes the logic error much better.

[Anonymous No.]

God damn, just go back to desecrating Mion's corpse or something. Stop arguing with this ESL retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341721
Anime/Game related forum, Twitter or Discord.
I admit that there are not much active places to talk about their works now that nearlly everything is centralised in social media.

Discord can be a good place and a counterpart to this thread to discuss their works, but the IRC side of it kind of kills some discussions, imo : they are buried in a mass of unreated messages when lot of people are talking in the same channel. However, channel dedicated to a specific topic (for example, a channel for an episode of Umineko) is more prone to specific discussion. But, again, a discussion could be easily lost in a sea of messages.

You can have discussions on Twitter, but the character limit is a big weakness; there will always be a person that will pick you up on a specific tweet on a nuance thread you are writing. In anyway, it's not the good place for discussions.

Now, the problem with other forums is that most of them don't have a lot of active members. But it's still the best place to have a discussion. The VN thread of SA is still a bit active. The last discussion of the thread is about Umineko and Ciconia.
Unfortunately, we can no longer register in this forum, it seems.
We also have AS forum is a bit less active, tho.
We also had the late forum Rokkenjima which was the place to talk about 07th Expansion's works with this thread in parallel, few years ago.
Personally, I didn't know about this forum until a year or two ago. It was already closed, so I don't really know the forum. But for me, it seems to be the best place to talk about Ryukishi's works. The equivalent of Beast's Liar for Type-Moon's works.


Every site has their cons and pros. So, the choice is up to you.
You can also create your own forum dedicated to 07th Expansion works like Rokkenjima.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342076
>go back to desecrating Mion's corpse
You shut your fucking mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341721
It's all on discord, but you won't be able to discuss these novels with humans there. They are all sjws of the worst kind.

This place isn't the best, but at least you can talk about anything you want. Discord is a repressive, authoritarian shithole full of terrible people who will raise hell for every little thing and ban you for using the word "cunt" in any context.

Go there if you like walking on eggshells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342336
Not EvAngeLion

[Anonymous No.]

I would love a Higanbana live action. But for some reason Japanese live actions always have teens or adults play kid characters. It's absurd. Isn't otaku culture lolicon as fuck? Why would they do that in every live action?

But I guess having cute lolis play the characters would be unrealistic. You can assume that the cuties drawn by Ryuukishi actually have average looks in-universe, but if you bring that to live action you'd have to cast uggos to play them. No fucking way a cute girl would be bullied to that extent IRL without being some awkward nerd that nobody would defend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342336

>awaken my masters

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342400
https://youtu.be/D4Hapmm9YiY

This girl is super cute and charming, and you can bet her cringy ass autism will make her go through Hell as soon as a bully targets her. Lolis can be cute and pathetic at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342422
>a girl is autistic
>/jp/
super cute

>italian anon is autistic
>/jp/
i fucking hate you autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342436

what if italian anon is a girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342448
cat box
italian anon can be a girl and a boy at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342480
I bet she gets so riled up about Yasu having a dick because she uses Erika as selfinsert for fucking Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341382
>the problem is that if everything is VR why do they talk about the factory as a future to avoid?
There could be many explanations, if humans make the same mistakes again even when they are "lead to the right path" then they can't be saved? they said somebody would have to stay behind, maybe those people are playing a "game" to decide something important.
Also maybe pandora's incredible P3 capabilities will make heaven possible if they finally manage to successfully replicate its brain.
I'm not sure, I have a ton of weird bad theories but I'm sure somebody could probably think of something better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342436
>sperg girl
>cute
>funny
>human
>speaks English
>eloquent
>blonde with blue eyes
>forever a preteen inside her head
>lewd middle schooler body
>small tits
>hairy pussy
>so cute and yet she's got an arse
>she's got an arse despite being so cute
>likes anime
>masturbates a lot
>positive attitude
>high IQ

>Italian anon
>annoying
>obnoxious
>low IQ
>no understanding of punctuation even in his native language
>terrible English
>troll
>shits up threads on purpose
>goat

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342553

so you are saying this is like one of the games in umineko. where the players are trying to see if humanity is worth of being preserved?

>Also maybe pandora's incredible P3 capabilities will make heaven possible if they finally manage to successfully replicate its brain.

but that would mean they are studiyng it in VR unless it's a meta thing and when we see her being studied it's actually her brain in a jar being studied.

>I'm sure somebody could probably think of something better.

yeah like for example italian anon could use his autism with ciconia for a change.

[Anonymous No.]

Just how much of a schizo with DID is princess Rethabile?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342629

princess Rethabile is a pure and perfect african queen she's not a schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341851
>Only Shannon know Natsuhi favourite season, man from 19 years ago know favourite season, therefore man from 19 years ago Shannon
That's not it. It's:
- Only Shannon was told by Natsuhi her favorite season
- Man from 19 years ago was told by Natsuhi her favorite season
- Therefore Man from 19 years ago is Shannon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342749
I never told anyone except Shannon that I like autumn.
this is a red truth:
many theory
1)told mean face to face discussion.
2) natsuhi said to the 19th man that her preferite season is autumn not that she like autmn
3)autumn is the name of natsuhi lover

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342775
>autumn is the name of natsuhi lover
You're telling me Krauss is actually Autumn Ushiromiya?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342812
6 years of fucking natsuhi and no children?
krauss is sterile
jessica is "autumn" daughter

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342825
Are you saying Krauss is into cuckholdry?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342833
natsuhi's marriage was like a big rape
kinzo had literally bought it from a family he had destroyed.
most likely she first loved "autumn"(aki in japanese)

>I never told anyone except Shannon that I like autumn.
nope was a secret relationship only shannon knew about them

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342850
It was said in red that Natsuhi is pure and faithful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342558
What's so contradictory about cute girls having asses?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342861
so for you betraying your rapist is a sin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342877
It's cheating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342888
if there isnt love it is not cheating
without love one cannot be see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342900
Krauss loved Natsuhi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342908
proof
Krauss always treated her badly
imagine when she didn't give him an heir
most likely he had lovers

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342422
I want to HUMILIATE this girl's BUTTHOLE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342662
>pure and perfect
But she poops. And I bet she's a slut like every girl ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342662
Anime Africans are so cute!

I wish real life ones were even half this cute!

[Anonymous No.]

Can the anon posting on /lolg/ stop shitposting with R07 content? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342422
What the fuck? She's absolutely perfect. This is how girls are supposed to be!

How come being a perfect girl is considered a mental illness just because she can't relate to all those vapid normie whores? This world is insane. Sure, she's childish as fuck, but so are most women. At least she has enough brains and heart to do things right when needed.

She should be a role model, not the star of what is basically a modern day freak show run by a creepy condescending asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343068

lol now i'm going to take a look

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341368
post the other r07 Akiha

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343068

>>270577923

based anon guiding lol down the right path

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343070
>a modern day freak show
You said it. Look at one of his last videos. The one where he interviews a burn victim who literally looks like a walking rotten corpse. Jesus Christ.

The zombie is so nice and funny, he is even bilingual. But he shouldn't be living like that, it must be horrible. Why save his life as a baby with no goals, dreams or attachments? He wouldn't give a fuck about dying then, he was a fucking baby. Just let the poor fuck die as a mindless baby, why force him to spend this life as a walking zombie after countless painful surgeries?

And then he gets interviewed by this sociopath who treats absolutely everyone in the same condescending way, whether they are mentally ill or not. He speaks the same way to a dude with autism, a burn victim, a gifted nerd, a braindead toddler incapable of understanding a single word, or a poor bastard who should've been aborted because his entire life is pain and suffering and was only kept alive in a miserable state by religious parents obsessed with the "sanctity of life".

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343101
>>22343080
I want to shitpost now as well. I want to play with that anon as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341721
Just go to threads like /a/, /v/ or /u/ since at least there's not like 100 posts of Erikanontrice discussion there

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342618
Oh sorry I didn't mean to imply those two things were connected, but I guess it would be interesting if they were. If it is a simulation birth becomes very interesting right? But birth is also one of the themes of the game so it doesn't seem so out of place, maybe some newborns are programs and some are made in the factory.

In some part of the text Miyao asks himself why they keep making so many children, maybe that actually has a deeper meaning and they are searching for a special brain like pandora.

I guess these last two things also could be not related but still important or nonsense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343166
I want to cum on Bern's face in that panel so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343166
I'm surprised they didn't make designer babies out of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338908
reminder that witches and woodlands exists too

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342422
I bet this skinny loli has a fat fucking ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343406
Witches and Woodlands is the BEST Umineko fangame ever made. Literally better than Saku.

Too bad the author seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342422
Damn, she's cuter than most 2D girls.

Autism is a powerful drug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343587
you disgust me

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343587
3D can never reach the level of perfection of the best 2D girls. But it's true that a godlike 3D loli can surpass most 2D ones, because the average 2D girl is quite plain and dull.

Art imitates life. If you can't appreciate 3D perfection, you can't really appreciate idealized 2D representations of it either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342422
I can totally imagine Rena acting like this autist IRL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343676
She isn't even a loli, she's an admittedly cute turboautist permanently stuck at a 6th grader's mental age.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342558
What's up with this arse meme?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22338908
>like a puppet who's strings hadn't yet been cut
sublime

[Anonymous No.]

>>22339928
>no fire existed in my mother's house at all today
how is this possible? I don't understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343844
"My mother's house" refers to his actual mother's house, not to his fake mother's house where the hams were steamed.

[Anonymous No.]

It was only natural, like a puppet with its strings cut. Supporting the walls of peace from both sides and a blooming red rose spread under his dead body... no, the puppet that used to be his body. And the sprouts of war were planted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343878
Bullying is so fun and I will protect my fellow countrymen with the walls of peace and lobezno a todo gas

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343844
What the episode that ruined Seymour's character, goat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343878
I love you Ryukishi

[Anonymous No.]

Mariaは

She justは

It was only natural. She fell like a puppet with its strings cut. A blooming red rose spread under her broken skull. Then, as a very, very natural result, Rosa screamed at the heavens like an opera singer... no, like a mama wolf.

"UUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH"

Rosaのvoiceless scream filled the cathedral. She readied her winchester rifle and loaded three .410 caliber bullets. The goats' huge bodies fell on top of each other like domino tiles... no, like Mahjong tiles... no, like bowling pins... no, like chess pieces... no, like... -glass shatters-

Bernkastel and Lambdadelta had wry smiles on their faces as they pushed down the walls of peace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342422
I want to spread apart this bitch's walls of peace. And by that I mean her butt cheeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342422
>she laughed at the H-word five second in
She knows. She's an autistic fuck. I bet she flicks her bean to the fact that her bullies are pathetic humans every night!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342400
>Higanbana live action
That would be cute as hell, but I wish we got a proper manga first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343968
>remembers to add wry smiles
>forgets the overuse of ellipses.............
>forgets medulla oblongata

[Anonymous No.]

>>22343099
I don't have it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22333611
1. If Jaden is a spy it'll get interesting
2. Crushed and trashed on his sisters eyes as we've seen in a "future" flashback
3. The conclusion of WW3
4. Humanity was butchered and put into VR for whatever reason
6. The mastermind, I suppose. Or maybe himself, his father or whatever.
7. George, Hideyoshi and Krauss
8. Female, he got put as a killer program inside his sisters digital body
9. To make Miyao actually win in the end, he most likely doesn't fully agree with their decision or wants to be proven wrong
10. Miyao's mother is Takano we've seen in the underground. Jestress is Lambda.

All of this has already been implied, how the hell you were reading this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22341368
I dreamt about this picture last night. I dreamt I was in akiba and I found a whole book of crossover art like this. It even had an English translation.

[Anonymous No.]

Mitake Tojiro

Tomitake Jiro

am i retarded for not noticing this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22345666
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22345666
Furudo Rika.

Fruderika.

Potip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22345771

yeah that i noticed on my own
i think...

now that i think about it maybe a friend told me..

[Anonymous No.]

>>22345666
Vier Dreissig -> vierunddreißig -> 34
Lingji is called a princess because the 姫 hanzi in her name means 'princess'
Gunhild's last name is "Gustafsson", which implies she's a man - she'd be "Gustafsdóttir" otherwise
yes I know only Iceland does that but considering R07 used an example name from wikipedia wrongly, something may be awry
at the very least Viljakainen and Ironside seem normal though

[Anonymous No.]

>>22345910

oh i didn't know that it changes with male or female.

still it could be ryukishi fucking up or choosing gustafson because it sounds more nordish

[Anonymous No.]

>>22342558
who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

What if Jestress is tricking the kings?

She's the one that handles the coins. Even if all three of them voted to start WW4, she could do some shit and place a silver coin in there. All the kings would assume one of the other is a dissenter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22346328
no one of the three kings voted for the war!!!!!
lambda trick them all
all of them think the others 2 change their vote

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, so the three kings want to cull humanity to prevent the factory hell... but Blue Miyao says that Miyao must kill the three kings to prevent it? What?

Is he a program implanted by Toujirou so his son kills the three kings and he can guide the third impact to his liking?

[Anonymous No.]

>"I dedicate this victory to you, Meow!"
>punches her in the face

[Anonymous No.]

>>22346407

what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22346407
>>22346445

oh you are talking about the boxing match

lol i never realized

[Anonymous No.]

>>22345910
>Gunhild might be a man.

That would explain why she has no ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22346548
Gunhild is Dad, Toujirou is Mom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22345940

It doesn't. That tradition died out after the middle ages, and would be ridiculously confusing nowadays.

As somebody who actually speaks Swedish, I can confirm that Gustafsson is a completely normal Swedish surname used by both men and women.

[Anonymous No.]

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