07th Expansion

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07th Expansion Anonymous Sat Oct 12 12:58:28 2019 No.22238013 [Reply] [Original]

Repopulating the Earth with Jestress for the greater good!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:01:27 2019 No.22238040 >>22238013 Why doesshe wear the mask?

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:02:30 2019 No.22238046

>>22238013
>tfw feel when you had a 10/10 shitposting but the thread is pruned just as you post and then all momentum is lost for your 10/10 shitposting.
I am too old for that shit. I have lost far too many shitposts to the vagaries of time, or god forbid, maidos deleting threads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:02:40 2019 No.22238048 >>22238040 It's hotter that way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:04:25 2019 No.22238054 Where to find pirate translation for ciconia btw?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:05:31 2019 No.22238059 >>22238054 >http://store.steampowered.com You can pirate a translation for a small fee of 30ish dollars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:05:43 2019 No.22238061 >>22238040 it's spooky

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:07:06 2019 No.22238069 Did we figure out who the 4 traitors are?

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:08:50 2019 No.22238082

>>22238069
Of course not. It's still vague enough it could be anyone except Jayden, Naima, and Koshka.
But odds are good on Gunhild (sympathizes with Three Kings "kill em all") and Rethabile (subversive element brother dies the moment she locates him).

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:10:14 2019 No.22238091 >>22238013 I want her to suck my dick while still wearing the mask.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:14:36 2019 No.22238114 >>22238069 Meow is Jestress is female is the traitor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:15:44 2019 No.22238119 I though all that Miyao stuff was just shitposting. Turns out it was actually a sign of a superb taste.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:19:06 2019 No.22238141
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So it's basically confirmed that A3W is Matrix. I mean, their description of B3W world matches ours... except for this one abnormality of not having Revelation in Christian canon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:19:47 2019 No.22238146 >>22238069 gunhilde,Stanisław,Andry,Mariana

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:20:05 2019 No.22238150 >>22238141 I interpreted that as Featherine.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:21:11 2019 No.22238155
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Miyao looks like a girl in the trailers. Turns out he's a boy. Turns out he has a girl alter. Turns out they are most likely biologically female after all.

Jayden looks like a chad in the trailers. Turns out he's apparently a faggot and wears the non-binary flag on his shirt. Turns out he's not gay at all and wants Meow to be female if possible.

Jesus, how many times will he bamboozle us? Everything we predicted in the trailers was true and yet we got tricked into thinking they were a gay couple the entire time after they released the demo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:22:05 2019 No.22238159 File: 1.24 MB, 1281x994, 1570496132431.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you ever just

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:23:34 2019 No.22238163 >>22238159 My waifu Piece supporting the Walls of Peace with both hands while doing a double Peace sign + ahegao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:24:20 2019 No.22238166 File: 140 KB, 548x506, 1570565794997.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22238069 I refuse to explain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:24:55 2019 No.22238171 >>22238159 This is just Ryuukishi showing off how his hand drawing skills have improved. We went from mitten hands with conjoined fingers to actual small hands with 5 separate, slender fingers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:26:11 2019 No.22238180 >>22238166 They said there were traitors in all four faction Jestress/Meow was talking about herself, so Chloe and Gunhild are just red herrings. The African faction must have a traitor too, so it's probably the dominatrix.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:28:24 2019 No.22238194 >>22238166 >He thinked Lingji's traitor just because godlen gauntllett You thinkied wrong.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:39:16 2019 No.22238240

>>22238194
It's a LATO conspiracy. Valentina is evil. They gave Lingji the golden gaunlet. They said that LATO has better gauntlets so they can win against nations that threaten world peace.

Miyao and Meow will eventually get one of those, since their talent has surpassed current technology.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:44:37 2019 No.22238276

>>22238240
Valentina has torrent of pussy juices coming from her pussy whil discssing with Toujirou because she's not know a Truth.

Torrents. Litters torrents.

Valentina isn't traitor. Valentia a moron. Valeitnia a paw. Toujirou fucks her between her Takano's hate/love fuck while plottging the earth s futre.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:45:25 2019 No.22238282 >>22238091 you can't copulate that way anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:50:14 2019 No.22238319 Do you think Chloe ever came from Okonogi chopping her?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 13:56:51 2019 No.22238356 >>22238166 He would like us to not suspect Jayden and Koshka. I would dismiss them right away, so they must be traitors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:00:54 2019 No.22238379 >>22238332 saved Looks like Koshka is a fan favorite

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:03:06 2019 No.22238391 Why do people like Koshka?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:04:15 2019 No.22238401 >>22238391 she looks like rika

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:04:32 2019 No.22238404 >>22238391 I can only think about being hipster meme.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:04:34 2019 No.22238405 >>22238391 cute relatable high power-level sad backstory doesn't care about the war and just fucks off

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:05:31 2019 No.22238414 File: 615 KB, 2560x1440, 20191012172709_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22238391 Her name is "Cat". Likes cats. Cute as a cat. Her brain will somehow allow humanity to survive. What's not to like?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:06:28 2019 No.22238422 I still haven't read the TIPs

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:06:40 2019 No.22238426 >>22238414 Is she and Pandora the same person or did I misunderstand the scene where they operated on her brain and fragment 15?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:06:54 2019 No.22238430 >>22238332 Do you mind sharing the artists twitter handle

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:07:25 2019 No.22238431 File: 988 KB, 1278x714, 46849.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22238422 why

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:08:13 2019 No.22238437 >>22238431 I only have it on my laptop and I haven't used my laptop again since I finally got a temporary desk set up with my desktop

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:09:45 2019 No.22238447
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I consider the possibility that Vier being Miyao's mother might be a red herring and Jestress being his/her mother instead.
>similar faces
>some kind of relationship with Toujirou
>seemingly no life outside of her role as if she "died"
IMO she is just as suspicious as Vier. Seems much more probable than Jestress being Meow in disguise, atleast.

>>22238069
>>22238166
Chloe would be too obvious, with being good at hacking and backstabbing Lilja at a critical moment.
I find Gunhild and Stan's Chivalric Order of Edginess a bit suspicious as that might be a mere cover for the Ninth Prime, but even that is probably a red herring if anything.
Aysha is obviously evil playing nice but that doesn't necessarily make her a traitor.
Rethi would be one of the most suspicious if we include the possibility of an unreliable narrator at the death scene of her brother. Since the narration more resembles RGD than Umineko though, even that seems debatable.

>>22238319
She sure as hell made a VR fanfic about that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:11:18 2019 No.22238453 >>22238447 Jestress looks really young, like high school age to me. I don't think the 4 kings would hire an older woman to sexually bully them either, they don't strike me as that type.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:16:53 2019 No.22238477 >>22238453 Do you make older characters when designing some mmo avatar?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:19:12 2019 No.22238484 >>22238477 Yes, I make faceless old men. Really though, I think we should just assume that everyone looks more or less like their avatar. Otherwise anyone could be anyone and it'd be way too confusing and hard to reason about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:20:52 2019 No.22238495 I wonder if "Ninth Prime" means anything. The ninth prime number is 23, for what it's worth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:26:59 2019 No.22238514 >>22238447 Multiple personalities means that narration can easily be fooled. Rethabile visited her brother while her other personality was sending the info to the kings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:35:58 2019 No.22238552 >>22238495 Considering that Revelations only has 22 chapters, there's at least one connection there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:36:49 2019 No.22238556 >>22238430 https://twitter.com/_kikonia_/status/1181787047763202049/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:37:14 2019 No.22238557 >>22238391 basically this >>22238405

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:38:15 2019 No.22238560 >>22238557 I just think it's really cheesy but to each their own. Better than Lilja, anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:38:39 2019 No.22238562 >>22238150 Well, it might be her expy, but there should be an explanation in-universe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:41:23 2019 No.22238575 >>22238552 Adding to this since I forgot for a moment, but the ninth distinct semiprime is 34. Probably going into tinfoil since it's so minute, but make of that what you will.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:41:30 2019 No.22238576 >Rethabile Eenentwintig Africacommonwealthrealm Hilarious name

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:42:33 2019 No.22238582 >>22238576 Also, does this mean they speak Afrikaans in the ACR?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:43:11 2019 No.22238588 >>22238576 It's funny in English but having a family name be the land/title/clan is pretty common.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:43:30 2019 No.22238589 >>22238453 >like high school age I don't know about that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:44:54 2019 No.22238596 >>22238588 Yes, that's not what's funny. It's funny because ACR is a very technical sounding country name. Image if Kim Jung Un was called Democraticpeoplesrepublicofkorea Jung Un.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:46:32 2019 No.22238604

>>22238453
Good point. Though she could just as well be in her early thirties, keeping a youthful appearance though genetics or 8MS, which would still qualify her as a mother candidate. Furthermore, the Three Kings could have a thing for mature women just like that one mafioso from RGD.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:49:29 2019 No.22238620 File: 122 KB, 267x665, 5133743895.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the kings living the dream life

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:50:07 2019 No.22238627
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What did Toujirou mean by this response to an informant telling him Miyao was going to form a chivalric order? At a time when only Jayden and Gunhild had been told about it? Really makes me think.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:50:49 2019 No.22238629 >>22238620 God I wish that were me

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:53:17 2019 No.22238655 >>22238627 It's Meow. Meow is also Toujirou's ex-wife (her own mom) due to time travel. She's also Jestress and Vier. I'll tell you all about it in my Viertresseow Manifesto, coming soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:56:11 2019 No.22238678 File: 177 KB, 291x404, warcat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It would take a miracle for Gunhild to still be alive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:56:34 2019 No.22238680 >>22238040 Nobody cared about her until she put on the mask.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:57:43 2019 No.22238690 >>22238655 kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:58:28 2019 No.22238694 >>22238680 If I took it off, would she die?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:58:50 2019 No.22238699 >>22238426 They are trying to put Pandora inside her so I assume Pandora is at least a different body. Maybe she's a clone or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:59:53 2019 No.22238705 >>22238694 It would have extremely high casualties.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:01:47 2019 No.22238716 >>22238576 Is there a meaning behind her name being 21 (Eenentwintig)? Does Rethabile mean anything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:01:56 2019 No.22238720 >>22238705 All is in the name of guiding humanity down the right path

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:02:59 2019 No.22238727 >>22238716 I think it just means "the 21st". Her brother is called Zeventien I think. So it's just Rethabile XXI.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:04:33 2019 No.22238738 >>22238716 she's 21st in line to the throne

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:04:37 2019 No.22238739 >>22238716 She's 21st in line to the throne.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:04:50 2019 No.22238743 You guys are cool, don't go to LATO tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:05:36 2019 No.22238748 >>22238738 So I guess she's now 20.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:07:27 2019 No.22238761 >>22238738 >>22238739 Is that how it works? I'm (>>22238727) wrong then, sorry for giving you wrong information.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:08:56 2019 No.22238775 >>22238069 I don't even understand what being a traitor implies in this setting. What is their function?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:10:27 2019 No.22238783 >>22238775 >What is their function? Committing treason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:11:34 2019 No.22238791 >>22238783 Against who or what? Doing what?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:12:17 2019 No.22238797 >>22238791 Presumably against Miyao's order of public lust

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:14:05 2019 No.22238811 File: 2.13 MB, 1282x752, cute russian.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can other girls even compete?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:14:19 2019 No.22238812 >>22238748 REALLY MAKES YOU THINK

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:14:27 2019 No.22238814 >>22238797 I don't think that's the case, because that wasn't even a thing when they infiltrated the Knights.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:15:47 2019 No.22238823 >>22238814 I guess that's true. I don't know then, but were they ever called "traitors" at that point? I think they were just called spies or infiltrants or something of that matter. In fact I'm not sure if anyone in the VN calls them traitors at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:17:48 2019 No.22238831 File: 2.19 MB, 1277x713, cute swede.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22238811 By being better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:20:01 2019 No.22238846 >>22238831 I want to cuddle with her while giving her saltlakrits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:23:58 2019 No.22238873 >>22238846 I don't get why they make such a huge deal of that flavor, I'm not even from Northern Europe and it didn't taste that weird to me the first time.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:27:10 2019 No.22238895

>>22238447
>Since the narration more resembles RGD than Umineko though, even that seems debatable.
Most of RGD was narrated by a mob boss who wanted to paint Rose and the rest in a good light and/or had been fed embellishments of the real truth. It's probably the most unreliable narration of all. Leo's hotel fight was exaggerated to make him into a legend, and I bet lots of random mobsters were murdered during the gunfights. But she wouldn't tell that part because it would make her nationalist mafia look bad.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:41:15 2019 No.22238967

>>22238895
>Most of RGD was narrated by a mob boss who wanted to paint Rose and the rest in a good light
Thanks for reminding me, I completely forgot about Jeanne. Anyway, are some embellishments and half-truths really on the same level as Onikakushi-hen or Umineko's blatant lies concerning Kinzo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:43:18 2019 No.22238977 >>22238426 >>22238699 Read the character profiles sometime. Pandora is a code word for Koshka's brain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:53:35 2019 No.22239030 >>22238895 What if Rose never even existed and it's just Jeanne and Wayne trying to create a fictional character and make people believe in her existence? Rose is their furniture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:56:35 2019 No.22239046 Who are the recurrent characters/expies in Ciconia?

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:57:37 2019 No.22239056

>>22238895
Damn. I always thought it was convenient that the long drawn out gunfights always ended without a few casualties.

I think most of the story is truthful, but at the end of they day it was a group of ultra nationalists who didn't mind sacrificing human lives for the sake of preserving Japanese culture. Very beautiful ideals, but they are still ruining lives and murdering people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 15:58:12 2019 No.22239062 File: 446 KB, 301x600, lingji.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Xiaolan, Meixue, Lingji - why are Ryukishi's Chinese women all so adorable? Is this some sort of Chinese propaganda?

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:05:07 2019 No.22239104
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>>22237685
>What happened on March 5, 1994?
>>22237706
>We found some threads ago it's possibly a Columbia experiment.

There was also this:
https://www.spacetelescope.org/images/opo9418a/
>This picture is a composite of a black and white near infrared image of Jupiter and its satellite Io and a colour image of Io at shorter wavelengths taken at almost the same time on March 5, 1994. These are the first images of a giant planet or its satellites taken by the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) since the repair mission in December 1993.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:09:07 2019 No.22239118

>>22239046
Miyao = Ange (not Meow, she really acts nothing like Ange)

Jayden = nerdy version of Alan

Gunhild = Nina + Mion

Chloe = definitely Yukari

Jestress = literally Lambda

Gannet = Gaap

Vier = Miyo

Okonogi = Okonogi

Toujirou = Tomitake flash

Andry = Etika + Amakusa

Lilja = bully Satoko + Asuka

Naomi = Ange but only in appearance

Stanisfslj forget it. Satoshi + Will

Leah = literally promoted Cornelia after her combat training

Ishak = African variety of a random RGD mafia man

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:09:44 2019 No.22239124 >>22239062 >Is this some sort of Chinese propaganda? Is it working?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:10:57 2019 No.22239130 >>22239062 It's their traditional Chinese clothes and braided hair. When they are naked, they look just as dumb and animalistic as any other nationality.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:12:18 2019 No.22239136 >>22239062 >forgetting Hotaru She was the cutest Wandering Dog.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:13:20 2019 No.22239138 >>22239062 I'm glad this commie cunt is dead. Damn red chinks

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:18:33 2019 No.22239175 >>22239124 Well, obviously. >>22239130 >>22239138 Rude! >>22239136 >liking used goods Then again, out of the Wandering Dogs she was the best indeed. Not much competition, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:22:06 2019 No.22239198 File: 119 KB, 600x852, By3BSWmCcAESXqn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22239175 >Then again, out of the Wandering Dogs she was the best indeed. Not much competition, though. What are you talking about, they were the best part of RGD

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:25:26 2019 No.22239219 So can they create private VR rooms and create virtual copies of people they know to have virtual sex with?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:25:46 2019 No.22239221 >>22239136 She murdered people. Her soul is damned. Enjoy knowing that your waifu will go to Hell when she dies and become Satan's cumdumpster, eternally suffocating and sweating buckets in Hell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:28:22 2019 No.22239235 >>22239219 Using someone's avatar data without their consent is Crime, if I remember correctly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:29:12 2019 No.22239243 >>22239235 Well that wouldn't stop me, that's for sure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:29:22 2019 No.22239244 How did Takano know what the doctor said to his friends through Kizuna? Is that shit compromised?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:29:51 2019 No.22239248 The character designs and music where so much better in RGD than in Ciconia, I think we can all agree on that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:30:53 2019 No.22239253 >>22239244 Oh, Kizuna and the company that made it are part of the Three Kings conspiracy, with certainty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:30:58 2019 No.22239255 >>22239219 You would need to properly scan their naked bodies with your eyes or obtain their nude avatar data if they have one. Only Chloe would he lewd enough to use her real naked body for the nude avatar, though?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:31:59 2019 No.22239261 >>22239248 I guess, but Ciconia isn't that far behind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:32:04 2019 No.22239262 I want to do drugs with them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:34:06 2019 No.22239276 >>22239248 I'd give it more time, considering we're still in Phase 1. At the beginning RGD's music was mediocre too and became better with each season.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:34:06 2019 No.22239277 >>22239244 No way he spent all that time rambling about Kizuna for it not to be a thing later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:35:41 2019 No.22239289 >>22239276 This is from season 1 dude https://youtu.be/qq2UsxTaSNg

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:35:55 2019 No.22239291 >>22239219 >create virtual copies of people they know That would be pretty hard. >to have virtual sex with It's probably gonna be pretty shitty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:37:56 2019 No.22239304 >>22239289 >>22239276 First opening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X9GVPZ69aA

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:38:21 2019 No.22239310 Imagine snorting a fat line with Lilja.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:38:52 2019 No.22239315 >>22239289 >>22239304 Meh, I prefer the later tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS0wvVHBbIk

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:42:02 2019 No.22239336 File: 305 KB, 855x208, lewd_000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22239219 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:45:02 2019 No.22239345 >>22239315 Meixue is best girl.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:46:49 2019 No.22239359
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I've been thinking about why the When They Cry series is so special and what I've realized is that Ryukishi is an author that really taps into universal themes about the human condition in his thinking and writing. He doesn't just come up with interesting characters and situations (which he does do as well) but he actively grapples with why those situations come about and what it really means for the people that live within and through them.

For example, Higurashi delves deep into the themes of Friendship, Perception, Social Influence and Identity. These are all universal themes that any human has some intuitive sense of. You can tell through the stories and how he engages with them that he's actively trying to understand himself what friends are, why people are friends, what the limitations of friendship is and how friendship intersects with the other themes listed. Umineko them picks up a couples of these (notably Identity, which is emerging as a major theme across all WTC), but broadens the scope even further to things like Truth, Fantasy, Belief, Motivation, Reality and more. I can happily say that through this lens Ciconia is a marvel, building on what Umineko and Higurashi have started, while continuing to expand thematic scope even further to things like Life, Technology, Communication, etc.

To me, this shows why Ryukishi is such an amazing author. He's actively trying to understand and draw out the meaning of these universal themes in a way that only art and narrative can. I think this is why his work leaves such a huge impression on people that have an inclination to actively engage with it. He has the depth of a philosopher, but channels it as an author.

I think this also explains why his representation of LGBT characters can be so fulfilling, because he's not simply conjuring a character to fill a role. Instead he seeks to understand what it actually means to be in that position, what factors are bearing on them. He's thinking about what it's like to be in this position 'from the inside', just as he does for any of the ideas he chooses to explore. Because every story is tapping into the same universal themes that tie back to the human condition. LGBT people are just people, with an understandable set of influences on them. He treats them as such, and it shines through to people that are sensitive to actual representation rather then author who would treat them as a prop without the same depth of thought.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:50:19 2019 No.22239381 >>22239289 I think the music we got was appropriate for the story. Something so chatchy and badass only belongs in RGD. A song like that wouldn't fit in any of the scenes of phase 1.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:50:26 2019 No.22239384 >>22239359 I started getting a bit worried when you brought up "themes about the human condition".

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:51:38 2019 No.22239395 >>22239336 I wonder how hairy Asuka's pussy is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:51:57 2019 No.22239397 File: 114 KB, 589x196, reee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] REEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:52:47 2019 No.22239402 >>22239359 >WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS If you aren't posting pictures of Chloe's breasts then gtfo fag

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:54:10 2019 No.22239413

>>22239359
I agree, there aren't many literary works that work with Big Ideas as well as Ryukishi does. Also he explores them seriously, without an starting ideological standpoint.

See for example the exploration of nationalism in RGD, where it's shown as a force for good until it shows it can become violent and exclusionary towards outsiders.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:54:56 2019 No.22239418 >>22239244 Kizuna is almost certainly produced and managed by Tojirou and his order considering how many admin rights he seems to have.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:57:20 2019 No.22239440 Is there any chance that Keropoyo is Pepe-inspired? Ciconia has a lot of meme references in it after all, and Pepe is one of the most recognizable memes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 16:58:46 2019 No.22239450 >>22239440 Pepe is unironically a symbol of freedom and revolution in China. Look up some protest videos. It's pretty hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:00:19 2019 No.22239458 >>22239450 Ironic then sense Keropoyo is being used to control the masses poyo

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:02:04 2019 No.22239473

>>22239413
What I like is that he uses interesting stories to explore themes I never would've thought about in my entire life otherwise.

I didn't even think about "boring" topics such as war, nationalism, mental disorders, etc, until I read his novels. And he really shows how interesting those topics can be, even topics about which I don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other. The different dynamics and positions are just interesting.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:05:16 2019 No.22239497

>>22239440
Keropoyo is the frog in the well from Bern's poems. People using it are being deceived and will never know what the elites are planning "outside the well".

Keropoyo resisting its own uninstallation and threatening to send your porn to everyone is played as a joke, but it's actually a serious thing. That frog is evil and getting rid of it is the first step towards putting an end to those illuminati fucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:07:30 2019 No.22239516 >>22239473 This. I don't know shit about economics but I enjoyed reading the Ushiromiya siblings discussion and the tensions between the GDS and Primavera during the sóy sauce arc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:08:32 2019 No.22239526 >>22239497 "No matter how much you hate me, I can't be erased poyo!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:09:33 2019 No.22239535 >>22239395 She's like 14, so it's probably very hairy.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:12:15 2019 No.22239555

>>22239497
Can you even get rid of selcom once you install it in your brain?

Are there temporary variants of selcom that use a physical device that you can take off whenever you want? I'd assume something like that must exist, otherwise the adults who find selcom headache inducing would kill themselves after perma-installing it in their brains.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:13:58 2019 No.22239568 File: 178 KB, 570x180, benis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What did Okonogi mean by this

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:14:31 2019 No.22239572 >>22239397 New banner of 4chan

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:15:53 2019 No.22239582 File: 1.93 MB, 1010x900, noor.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:18:43 2019 No.22239605 >>22239582 W-where the fuck was she whenever Jayden talked to people in the room? She was never there except the very first time after the festival.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:19:16 2019 No.22239608

>>22239244
Reminder to not trust neural implants.

1. Frogs Pre-installed with Selcom
2. Cannot be removed
3. Responsible for translating almost every single interaction with foreigners, possible to filter or intentionally mistranslate. Everyone will be Tower of Babel'd if it shuts down.
4. Apps running in the background use up brain power
5. Capable of running searches without the express intent of its owner
6. Can not only perceive, but directly opposes Shadow-Miyao's intereference
7. Kizuna rooms clearly under surveillance
8. Arkfags are aware of this and intentionally disrupt its use within their realm
9. Reports to a "Mistress", likely Seshat
10. Seshat is able to command a massive amount of power with it, possibly by siphoning off P3 from its userbase like some sort of cryptomining botnet

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:19:53 2019 No.22239616 Why do foreigners hate salmiak liquorice so much? I quite like it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:20:32 2019 No.22239621

>>22238447
does vier's age even line up with it all? she was killed in the past but we don't know when. but considering her achievements it must've been at least a few decades. she likely died before miyao was even born.

personally i think miyao's mother has nothing to do with her, and maybe is even unrelated to toujirou (although i still think takano is his ex).
remember that the ending scene had a mother and father name miyao together (!).
i speculate that the mother will be an entirely new character like beatrice and we will get to see her starting in phase 2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:25:07 2019 No.22239655 >>22239062 stella is a slut though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:27:00 2019 No.22239665 >>22239198 i feel sad seeing this image. ep 4 was too much..

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:27:19 2019 No.22239669

>>22239315
This was in one of xaki's Umineko CDs (from 2010), so it's a probably a rejected Umineko song, sounds like one too.
Well, I guess rejected is harsh word, maybe Ryukishi liked it so much he wanted to use it for his next work. There's at least a few songs like this.
I like them better than the Circonia soundtrack. I can only hope we get some bangers later on.

I guess Ryukishi has a thing for shorter looping songs now, but I really hope we get something like "dead angle" again. There's enough long scenes to make it work. I still get goosebumps when I listen to that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:28:06 2019 No.22239674 File: 844 KB, 1280x720, 1559136737599.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22239616 Salmiak is not liquorice, it is shards of Wisdom. You heard it here first folks.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:29:31 2019 No.22239689 >>22239276 >At the beginning RGD's music was mediocre too https://youtu.be/YQa2jVoL7RA

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:30:23 2019 No.22239694 >>22239359 >universal themes about the human condition Are you the guy who seems to bring up the 'human condition' every other thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:36:40 2019 No.22239719 >>22239687 Cute hole!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:37:35 2019 No.22239724 >>22239694 What do you have against the human condition?

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:37:39 2019 No.22239725

>>22239315
i completely forgot about her and the two guys. remembering them makes me feel bittersweet. RGD was quite the ride.
i think maybe i forgot it on purpose, but she died, didn't she? i remember that pretty intense scene and her fingers getting shot off, but i can't remember the conclusion.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:38:26 2019 No.22239730
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>>22239555
One of the data fragments seems to indicate that there are, but with how intrusive the technology is I wonder if that is the case. Selcom sheets could simply be a method of installation rather than a temporary appliance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:39:53 2019 No.22239736 >>22239725 I'd love an anime adaptation of RGD, but it's not popular enough to warrant one. It'd be like Baccano but better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:42:20 2019 No.22239749 >we never got to see Rina screaming as the Sonozaki tortured and killed her Why live?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:44:16 2019 No.22239758 >>22239724 It forces me toto acknowledge the fact that my waifu Lingji has a round pale ass that she shits from and looks absolutely pathetic while doing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:46:51 2019 No.22239773 >>22239555 That's what Okonogi is always wearing on his ear, isn't it? He hates selcom and can barely use it well, so he puts on that thing and takes it off when he's done. It's the kids that are getting brain implants.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:48:51 2019 No.22239777 >>22239730 >underside your left arm That's where Naima's armpit snake is! Snakes eat frogs! Whar does this mean?

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:50:08 2019 No.22239786

>>22239689
Maybe "mediocre" was a bit harsh, but I don't see how they are supposedly so much better than Ciconia's soundtrack when these exist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82lLofZSL60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaqCmM-Tf4o
Don't misunderstand, I also love RGD and its soundtrack, but comparing a finished work like that with Ciconia which just got its first part released is kind of unfair. Both have good and alright soundtracks while neither reaches Umineko standards, atleast in my opinion.

>>22239669
Deadangle is perfection.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:50:34 2019 No.22239787 I wish I was Naima's armpit snake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:52:26 2019 No.22239796 >>22239758 I literally cannot imagine her taking a shit because she's so beautiful and modest. Witnessing it would be like seeing magic. It would blow my mind and be super lewd because she's being observed in such an embarrassing situation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:52:42 2019 No.22239797 Does Gunhild want Miyao's imaginary dick? Or is it just some sort of camaraderie type of love?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:54:45 2019 No.22239812 >>22239797 She's a lesbian and can identify Miyao's real gender by his sweat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:55:53 2019 No.22239822 >>22239797 >>22239812 It's the most pure type of love.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:56:38 2019 No.22239826 >>22239797 It's a lying her arse off type of love because she's the traitor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:57:30 2019 No.22239831 >>22239812 She gives me the impression of a person who would fuck any gender and I'm sure she frequently does so for money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:57:59 2019 No.22239833 >>22239812 Imagine Miyao awkwardly pretending to be Meow just so he can scissor pussies with Gunhild, because Meow herself wants nothing to do with another girl.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:59:27 2019 No.22239842 >>22239831 She's a reincarnation of Nina, who died a virgin regretting not having become a Primavera whore when she had the chance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:03:43 2019 No.22239863 >>22239842 Nina liked to humiliate herself. She literally said "this is easier than farting for us", without a hint of shame at the prospect of someone imagining her doing such a thing.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:06:59 2019 No.22239885
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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:07:03 2019 No.22239886 >>22239118 >>22239046 Rita-bile is a beato expy I think. She's got an unhealthy obsession with chessboards and pieces, similar dress, similar pose/expressions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:08:11 2019 No.22239895 https://youtu.be/U5epWt-lB44 I wonder if we'll eventually get some voice acting like in the trailer. Not that I'd use it, but it would be interesting to hear at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:09:14 2019 No.22239903 >>22239885 Yeladot Shavit! Bringing the heat!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:09:27 2019 No.22239905 >>22239885 I want to have an orgy with Yeladot Shavit!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:10:20 2019 No.22239912 >>22239905 I want to shavit up their asses!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:12:29 2019 No.22239925 >>22239886 She wears a dress because she's a propaganda princess sent to die heroically. But her hand gesture IS weird as fuck. Is she part of the illuminati?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:12:40 2019 No.22239927 >>22239895 They were using something like that for the news segments, but I guess giving them to everyone would be too much work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:12:41 2019 No.22239928 >>22239582 yeah i picked up on that then couldn't match the other ones so i forgot about them

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:12:52 2019 No.22239930 >>22239885 >jews love interracial gay sex what did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:13:35 2019 No.22239933 >>22239895 Weird how Gannet alone is white here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:14:48 2019 No.22239943 >>22239925 Maybe it's just R07 practicing HANDS

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:15:53 2019 No.22239949 The game has a screenshots folder but I can't figure out how to make any. The folder is only used to keep miniature screnshots for the save files screen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:16:38 2019 No.22239953 File: 31 KB, 256x204, 1561953787811.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22239943 If Ryuu wanted to practice hands he wouldn't have made the plot revolve around giant gauntlets that obscure them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:18:28 2019 No.22239962 >>22239953 Reminder that we NEVER saw Rika's hamhands in Higurashi because she keep them hidden in shame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:19:43 2019 No.22239969 >>22239925 She wants that many fingers in her chocolate ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:20:45 2019 No.22239977 >>22239895 Whatever happened to Ciconia taking place in Dubai?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:20:59 2019 No.22239978 >>22239949 You can use Steam screenshots if you bought it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:22:32 2019 No.22239988 >>22239895 Do these animations appear at all in the final game? I like how puffy the spiritium steam looks when it comes off the train and when it surrounds Miyao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:24:58 2019 No.22240003 >>22239895 >60FPS Why? Interpolation always looks so bad.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:25:16 2019 No.22240005

>>22239978
I'm pretty sure that's just if you run the game through Steam or not. You can add non-Steam games to your Steam library and play them through it and you can also play Steam games without Steam as long as they don't have DRM. So whether you bought it or not doesn't really matter. But I'm pretty sure if you just want to take screenshots there's better options than Steam

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:27:28 2019 No.22240018

>>22240003
Explain, please.

I'm saving the original video anyway. And also the OP posted on the official account, because I believe the OP in the game files (although it was only visible in the demo files) is probably compressed for the game and has lower quality than the Youtube one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:30:25 2019 No.22240031 So is Gunhild's sister dead, or whoring herself out? Did somebody falsify her record just to get a "secretary"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:31:20 2019 No.22240033 >>22240031 She probably volunteered for the suicide program after the whoring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:32:49 2019 No.22240044 >>22239988 The government is using spritium fumes to control the masses. 8MS can't melt steel beams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:33:44 2019 No.22240050 >>22240031 She tried getting a better life by being a secretary but instead she just spent her time getting molested. After that she tried getting a better life as a soldier by signing up for that experiment but got died and got processed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:39:44 2019 No.22240072 >>22240018 The part where kettes appear just looks wrong. Other than that it's okay, at least there's no fucked up frame pacing like I've seen in other 60fps interpolated videos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:40:27 2019 No.22240076 >>22240031 >>22240050 it's quite sad so i suppose it wouldn't be a surprise if gun really does turn out to be the mole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:41:43 2019 No.22240083 >>22240076 it's pretty hot when you think about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:42:56 2019 No.22240088 >>22240031 Gundhild had two sisters with the same name

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:45:04 2019 No.22240092 >>22240088 What are Gunhild's alters? Did we ever got a glimpse of her DID?

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:49:45 2019 No.22240108

>>22238775
>>22238791
>>22238814
>>22238823
They're traitors against their respective nations. We don't know specifically if they've taken any action yet, but they're likely to prioritize orders from the Kings over orders from the military. For example, we're not absolutely sure, but there's a decent chance Rethabile was a major factor in getting her brother assassinated, which the Kings would have wanted since he was working to calm down global hostilities. The traitors being able to keep tabs on the Order of the Public Bath was just an added bonus onto their original functions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:49:51 2019 No.22240109 >>22239786 It's weird how both of these are stock music.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:54:07 2019 No.22240127 >>22239253 Not the Three Kings specifically, but rather Seshat's order. She and Toujirou appear to be only superficially working for the Kings while they work towards their own agenda that only partially aligns with that of the Kings

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:57:30 2019 No.22240143 >>22240127 So is Seshat trying to prevent the Anti-Spirals culling all life from earth?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:10:34 2019 No.22240195 File: 47 KB, 485x478, EGho42HUcAAPSls.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22239885 Leah! Respond to my fanmail!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:16:44 2019 No.22240214 >>22239885 Leave goyim alone you jews.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:40:11 2019 No.22240323
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>>22240092
It's hard to tell. She clearly has some issues with how her life used to be and what she needed to do to crawl out of that pit, but there's nothing specifically pointing to that being an alter.
The only segment I could think of that does would be the fragment where she visits Geroy 4, somehow has SS level clearance, and finds out what happened to Maya

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:45:41 2019 No.22240356 >>22240143 was Chloe's "Don't you dare underestimate humanity!"-quote also a reference to TTGL, or am I getting my anime trivia wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:46:42 2019 No.22240360 >>22239786 fuck, I forgot about dead angle the lack of zts is really upsetting not gonna lie

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:47:01 2019 No.22240361 File: 1.78 MB, 640x720, 1548790728650.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] EVERYONE, I'VE FIGURED IT OUT. Australia is behind everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:47:57 2019 No.22240364 >>22240356 I don't think it's specifically TTGL, there's a shitton of anime and manga that could have phrases like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:57:08 2019 No.22240417 >>22239949 Print screen

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:58:59 2019 No.22240428 >Maricarmen mashes her boobs into another girl while asking to be called Marica (faggot) Did he know?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 20:01:18 2019 No.22240439 >>22240428 i wouldnt mind pounding miyao(male) over a table while he calls me a faggot the entire time

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 20:03:24 2019 No.22240452 Is it gay if your buddy fucks your ass while your sister is in control of the body? Asking for a friend

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 20:07:09 2019 No.22240463 >>22240452 It is, and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 20:24:03 2019 No.22240559 >>22240452 Miyao doesn't have a dick, reread chapter 7.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 20:26:11 2019 No.22240566 File: 66 KB, 831x369, 1570926371985.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Children of man and without flesh it keeps bothering me that all looking like The Matrix stuff its my current most plausible theory going on

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 20:35:35 2019 No.22240598
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>>22238391
cute missing tooth
only one to rebel aganist the retards that will cause the death of most Gauntlet Knights
Deep down knew everything was fucked but was so apathetic she went along with the flow
Will be plot relevant and one of the most important characters until Miyao is forced to kill her by Tomitake

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 20:44:29 2019 No.22240641 >>22240559 I never mentioned a dick

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 20:55:02 2019 No.22240708 File: 507 KB, 610x720, 1570543483926.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why is Tomitake, Okonogi and Takano being characters in Ciconia so amusing?

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 21:00:05 2019 No.22240738

>>22239359
>>22239413
I enjoy that he can move beyond simple but popular beliefs into deeper explorations of the topic that aren't as clear cut.

Higurashi:
>You should always talk to your friends if you need help. However, you don't have to share everything about yourself if it would be painful.
Umineko:
>Which matters more: The facts, or your feelings/perception of them?
>Is there a limit to how hard you should search for the truth?
>Is it always better to know the truth about everything?
>When is fiction/pretending helpful? When does it go too far?

I already have some ideas about how Ciconia could ask some big questions, even relating to the work of other authors, but I'd like to see more of the story first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 21:04:32 2019 No.22240767 >>22240708 For me Tomitake is the most amusing because he's not just there, but plays a pretty central role to the plot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 21:57:52 2019 No.22241109 >>22238391 Misanthropic, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor Probably is going to be the first one to rebel against the military

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 22:04:23 2019 No.22241151 >>22241109 She already did in the ending.

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 22:14:37 2019 No.22241210

>>22239359
He's exceptionally good at writing relatable, morally questionable characters which allows him to explore different motivations and emotions in interesting ways.
Umineko Ep. 2 is a perfect example of this. You've just read Rosa smacking Maria around for a whole chapter and treating all the other survivors like shit, yet at the end you're still actively rooting for her despite all the shit she's done. It's also what makes Erika (and to a lesser extent Eva) such compelling characters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 22:34:54 2019 No.22241303 >>22240708 Tomitake is hilarious because he went from being a pathetic comic relief character who just dies every time into being gigachad scheming in the shadows.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 22:46:52 2019 No.22241381 reminder that tomitake was the original ryukishi self insert

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 23:05:18 2019 No.22241504

>>22239777
>Revelation 13:
>11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
>18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.

Selcom is the Mark of the Beast. It brands the foreheads of an entire generation, so that they can't buy, sell, or participate in society without it. Keropoyo is the second beast, who was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 23:06:48 2019 No.22241515 File: 156 KB, 800x566, 12543827_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] me all of ep7

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 23:19:28 2019 No.22241582 If Ciconia is taking inspiration from Revelations, then who's going to be the Anti-Christ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 23:31:57 2019 No.22241658 >>22241582 Chloe

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 23:58:37 2019 No.22241778
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>>22238069
Chloe for AOU
Aysha for COU
Naima for ABN
Rethabile for ACR

The only reason why I say this is because they all have the same red gem neck thing. Chloe, Aysha and Rethabile all seem fairly easy to pick out too from the story though Naima seems like an odd choice unless she's got even more personalities.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 23:58:53 2019 No.22241782 Did Witch Hunt specify if all parts of Ciconia will be released in English simultaneously with Jap version, or was it just for part 1?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:00:05 2019 No.22241792 >>22241582 Miyao

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:01:51 2019 No.22241796 >>22241782 Seems like that'd be pretty weird, so unless they say otherwise I think it's safe to assume they'll continue with simultaneous releases.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:05:10 2019 No.22241816 >>22241582 >>22241792 Miyao is Christ, Dark Miyao is the Antichrist. Miyao will be killed by Dark Miyao as he keeps saying then he'll get better somehow, using some meta/keropoyo bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:06:15 2019 No.22241824 >>22241816 Additionally Meow is the Virgin Mary, as the original personality in Miyao's body (i.e. it's "mother").

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:07:50 2019 No.22241834 i want to piecepost already witch hunt saku when

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:11:58 2019 No.22241848 File: 16 KB, 434x313, D_651NCUEAUpLdi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22241816 >>22241824 Keropoyo is the Holy Spirit. Now we need to figure out the Father.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:15:25 2019 No.22241867 >>22241848 That's easy: it's Tomitake.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:18:28 2019 No.22241879

>>22241582
Allow me to kindly say "hold the fuck up", as the Antichrist is not a defined figure in the Book of Revelations.
Do you mean the Beast from the Land? Because the Beast from the Land is a significant figure, but never named pseudokhristos.
At any rate, >>22241504 seems to have it right, Selcom seems like the Mark of the Beast so far. I don't know if Keropoyo is the Beast from the Land, it could instead be Kizuna as a program or possibly VR.
If Tojirou is the one who truly controls Kizuna, though, then that'd make Tojirou the Beast from the Sea and Keropoyo the Beast from the Land, properly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:31:25 2019 No.22241917 revelations is just talking about Rome/any other authoritarian empire that's hostile to Jews/Christians

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:56:45 2019 No.22242001

I finished Ciconia. (haven't gone over the data fragments yet), but while I can say the christmas party was an incredible climax and felt like something the entire game was written for, the ending disappointed me. It felt like a huge cliffhanger and the story kind of dropped off awkwardly.

Other than that I had a great time with the game, even if the WALLS OF PEACE spam got repetitive as fuck. I really hope R07 eases up on that in the next phase.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:58:22 2019 No.22242004

5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him who was seated on the high seat, a book with writing inside it and on the back, shut with seven stamps of wax.
5:2 And I saw a strong angel saying in a loud voice, Who is able to make the book open, and to undo its stamps?
5:3 And no one in heaven, or on the earth, or under the earth, was able to get the book open, or to see what was in it.
5:4 And I was very sad, because there was no one able to get the book open or to see what was in it.

Translation motherfuckers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:59:24 2019 No.22242007 >>22242001 Phase 1 is just a novel-sized trailer.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:02:27 2019 No.22242012

4:1 After these things I saw a door open in heaven, and the first voice came to my ears, like the sound of a horn, saying, Come up here, and I will make clear to you the things which are to come.
4:2 Straight away I was in the Spirit: and I saw a high seat in heaven, and one was seated on it;
4:3 And to my eyes he was like a jasper and a sardius stone: and there was an arch of light round the high seat, like an emerald.
4:4 And round about the high seat were four and twenty seats: and on them I saw four and twenty rulers seated, clothed in white robes; and on their heads crowns of gold.
4:5 And out of the high seat came flames and voices and thunders. And seven lights of fire were burning before the high seat, which are the seven Spirits of God;
4:6 And before the high seat there was, as it seemed, a clear sea of glass; and in the middle of the high seat, and round about it, four beasts full of eyes round about.
4:7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second like an ox, and the third had a face like a man, and the fourth was like an eagle in flight.
4:8 And the four beasts, having every one of them six wings, are full of eyes round about and inside: and without resting day and night, they say, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God, Ruler of all, who was and is and is to come.
4:9 And when the beasts give glory and honour to him who is seated on the high seat, to him who is living for ever and ever,
4:10 The four and twenty rulers go down on their faces before him who is seated on the high seat, and give worship to him who is living for ever and ever, and take off their crowns before the high seat, saying,
4:11 It is right, our Lord and our God, for you to have glory and honour and power: because by you were all things made, and by your desire they came into being.

Pact of Public Lust motherfuckers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:04:00 2019 No.22242016 >>22242012 Who are the four beasts then?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:06:03 2019 No.22242023 >>22242012 >>22242004 What if Miyao's alters are also Takano, the Three Kings and Jestress? We've already stablished Tomitake is into pedo shit so...

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:08:19 2019 No.22242030

>>22242007
Yeah, I can't shake the feeling that even in Higurashi or Umineko we were given more to go off of than we were in Ciconia, even if, objectively speaking a lot more went on in Ciconia. However, at the same time I don't think Ciconia's goal is to be a mystery game for the reader

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:08:22 2019 No.22242032

>>22241917
Rome was playing the part of a cyclical archetype, and this archetype is usually referred to as Babylon. This goes back to Daniel, which is mandatory reading for understanding Revelations. All of this talk of beasts originates there as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:09:49 2019 No.22242039 >>22242030 I mean, there are lots of mysteries, but I think they'll unravel on a more clear fashion than in the other WTC, for sure.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:21:53 2019 No.22242104

17:1 And one of the seven angels who had the seven vessels came and said to me, Come here, so that you may see the judging of the evil woman who is seated on the great waters;
17:2 With whom the kings of the earth made themselves unclean, and those who are on the earth were full of the wine of her evil desires.
17:3 And he took me away in the Spirit into a waste land: and I saw a woman seated on a bright red beast, full of evil names, having seven heads and ten horns,
17:4 And the woman was clothed in purple and bright red, with ornaments of gold and stones of great price and jewels; and in her hand was a gold cup full of evil things and her unclean desires;
17:5 And on her brow was a name, SECRET, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE EVIL WOMEN AND OF THE UNCLEAN THINGS OF THE EARTH

This is either Maya or Money.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:27:25 2019 No.22242136
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>>22239062
Ryukishi understands that anti-Chinese views is bad propaganda and he really gives the Chinese the rightful degree of dignity. In a lot of Japanese media, the Chinese are basically another form of evil jew. Compare that with Rose Guns Days where Ryukishi is actually understanding of the perspective between the two.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:32:25 2019 No.22242159 >>22240708 Because Tomitake is now a billionaire playing chess against God.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:48:25 2019 No.22242212 File: 464 KB, 655x720, lin_04.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22239062 Lingji is cute! CUTE!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 01:56:59 2019 No.22242254 anyone got all the sprites?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:20:45 2019 No.22242329 >>22242212 There needs to be a nude sprite of Lingji with only her cape and torso band covering her body.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:21:09 2019 No.22242332

>>22240708
For me, the beach scene cemented Tomitake as the biggest Chad that ever chad.

As hacked drones devastate an entire city and everyone's hiding for their lives, he just hang in the beach with his two lascivious bodyguards, one of which wants his dick hard and the other being terrified of him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:21:32 2019 No.22242333 Can’t wait for Okonogi’s redemption scene

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:22:00 2019 No.22242334 >>22242332 >sitting on a beach, drinking a martini while 3.5 billion people are getting killed

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:26:19 2019 No.22242353 Does anyone have a full list of all the quotes that were used in Ciconia? Most of them I can see why they were put in there, but some I don't get, like the Salvator Dali quotes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:32:51 2019 No.22242366 >>22242254 https://mega.nz/#!n8wFwQ7T!YlROkZui9XA6AY1ccVp6wVicxaXgOduBiXgiuL8fNxk

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:34:38 2019 No.22242372 >>22242353 in other words the walls of peace

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:37:12 2019 No.22242376 >>22242366 thx m7

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:37:40 2019 No.22242379 >>22242372 the walls of peace.....are heavy.....

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:47:04 2019 No.22242396 i havent posted about it in a while but you guys should still know i want to fuck evatrice

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:54:28 2019 No.22242410 Did you guys know that Gauntlet Knights are comrades that support the walls of peace together?

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:54:55 2019 No.22242412

>>22242379
We must maintain the walls of peace. Why are the walls of peace trust on the youth by those adults? The adults don't understand the walls of peace. The youths are guardian of the walls of peace. That is the true philosophy of the walls of peace that is understood by the youth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:56:30 2019 No.22242416 File: 413 KB, 640x480, 1536084736683.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22239118 >literally promoted Cornelia after her combat training cornelia is too weak willed to become my future wife

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:58:57 2019 No.22242422 File: 2.41 MB, 1274x711, 35737.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22239219 >>22239235 that doesnt stop chloe

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 02:59:18 2019 No.22242425 File: 81 KB, 900x500, 8d8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:01:44 2019 No.22242431 File: 803 KB, 1277x715, 849.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22239568 now what did okonogi mean by this

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:03:59 2019 No.22242437 >>22242431 /v/ mentality

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:23:39 2019 No.22242478

>>22242431
That's fucking bullshit and you know it. Execution barrier is important in such a pivotal move. By making it too easy these morons threw the entire balance of zoners, making them pretty much useless because everyone and their mothrr can block the projs without looking at the screen. I will never ever play anything by Copcam again, they've really shown they don't care about hardcore audience and just listen to goddamn casuals.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:25:19 2019 No.22242481 >>22242478 Go back to fucking Chloe, Okonogi.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:29:51 2019 No.22242501

>>22242481
You brats with your VR sex don't know what REAL dick feels like.

Seriously though, that makes me wonder, is everyone in AOU sterilized, and only given artificial wombs if they want to have children?
Did Mitake install artificial womb in himself and gave birth Miyao?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:35:54 2019 No.22242534 >>22238655 >Meow is also Toujirou's ex-wife (her own mom) This isn't Air Gear.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:38:45 2019 No.22242547

>>22242136
>In a lot of Japanese media, the Chinese are basically another form of evil jew.
Japanese representation of Chinese is billions times better than Chinese representation of Japanese (see any chink fiction where halfway through the series there's obligatory Japan genocide arc).

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:45:58 2019 No.22242571 piece is my wife

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:47:00 2019 No.22242572 >>22242501 It's probably just a culture thing. Also why would anyone want to go into labor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:51:06 2019 No.22242581 >>22242572 >why would anyone want to go into labor I wouldn't put it past Tojirou

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:52:45 2019 No.22242585 >>22242547 The Japanese earned those shitty representation of them, more than the Chinese. The Japanese were always cultureless imperialistic fucks. Even Ryukishi shits on that aspect.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:55:01 2019 No.22242592 >>22242585 t. bugman

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:00:58 2019 No.22242613 >>22242547 Based Japan culling out the horde of bugmen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:13:45 2019 No.22242652 >>22242534 >This isn't Air Gear Why don't even know what this is yet

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:15:30 2019 No.22242655 >>22242652 it's a manga with completely retarded plot and there's a character with multiple personality disorder and one of personalities being that character's mother

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:24:22 2019 No.22242687 >>22242655 I'm sleepy, I meant we don't even know what Ciconia is yet, and I doubt we will until the last episode releases a decade from now

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:35:22 2019 No.22242706 File: 3.85 MB, 1280x2160, fuck frogs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just one more reason to not fucking trust clippy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:39:58 2019 No.22242725 >>22242706 Depending your life on anything but your own creativity and strength is to negate your means of survival. Lingji deserved to die.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:41:18 2019 No.22242730 >>22242725 How do I uninstall you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:50:35 2019 No.22242751 >>22242730 Suicide.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:54:04 2019 No.22242762 >>22242329 ryukishi has that somewhere

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 05:01:51 2019 No.22242797 >>22242706 Just how much of a speedreader can you be? The same exact scene tells you that Gauntlets don't have their shield in maximum-safety mode 100% of the time even in combat.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 05:41:26 2019 No.22242899

>>22242725
self-sufficiency is such a fucking meme concept - even a literal innawoods survivalfag is dependent on the stability of the ecoysystem, and through social and technological innovation people only trade in that dependence on nature for a dependence on culture. the personal independence of the modern individual is literally achieved by a system of mediated dependences. lingji did nothing wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:21:46 2019 No.22242998 What if we get a Leo expy in one of Ciconia's later phases?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:26:26 2019 No.22243007 So is it good? Can it reach Umineko levels of discussion?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:29:37 2019 No.22243015 >>22239198 There's a Rose Guns Days drama CD?

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:31:06 2019 No.22243018

>>22242899
That's a misunderstanding of self-sufficiency by not understanding our ontological relationship to reality. Volitional-Sustainability means that you can rely on anything that can elevate you but you must always be able to drop it as to never become dependent on it. You mistake the conceptualization of reliance and dependence. Relying on something means that you use it; dependence means that your life is no longer in your hands. This does not mean that you have to 'live in the woods', it means that you have to perpetually increase your strength, knowledge and creativity to survive without becoming dependent on anyone else for your survival.
In the battle, Lingji depended on her system operator to protect her from attacks. If she were merely reliant on it, she would not need it to survive, but she did, hence, it lead to her death.
If this dependency did not exist, Tomitake could not have used it as a trump card to kill Lingji and protect Miyao.
The point is that the more you neglect to rely on your own strength, knowledge and creativity to survive, the less volitional control you have to live. It's based on a very simple model: if you were to lose X, would you die? Ciconia will be examining this element in depth as Ryukishi is deadset on bringing the end of civilization. Science is powerful, capitalism is great, but if you were to lose them, would you survive? If you say 'no', then you die. To ignore, negate or deny your volitional ability to choose and act on your values is to remove yourself from the classification of a rational animal.

I'll give you a better example. Imagine you live as a NEET, depending on your parents to live a comfortable life, living off their work and NEETbux. You could be feeling good, looking down on people that work. But if they were to die, and the government significantly reduced the amount of money they freely give you, you would be unable to survive by your own strength, knowledge and creativity because you perpetually became dependent on others to survive. The point isn't that you can only live in the woods to truly be independent, but that if you were to lose a job or whatever, you would still be able to fall back on your strength, knowledge and creativity to continue living.

If X were to go away, could you be able to move on find something else to live on? That's what matters.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:33:13 2019 No.22243024

>>22243007
>Can it reach Umineko levels of discussion
People are already making theories that it's all VR inside VR inside Matrix with the souls of the dead inside Crystal Lake made by God who is manipulated by aliens that want to reap humanity when population reaches 10 billion when their Spiral Power grows out of control

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:33:30 2019 No.22243025
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>>22242899
>freedom is such a meme concept - even in an anarchy you're forced to submit to the laws of nature
>health is such a meme concept - even the healthiest person in the world cannot avoid natural death
>culture is such a meme concept - even the most informed person in the world cannot know what happens on Alpha Centauri
this is you

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:34:04 2019 No.22243028

>>22239248
No, I hated the different artists thing in RGD, only the one that drew Leo did a good job, others vary from average to uglier than Ryukishi's art. Not to mentioned that the UI is ugly. At least Ciconia looks like a modern VN with more polished, unified look. Didn't like the soundtrack that much aside from OP and axelle-ratio either. It wasn't bad overall but about the same tier as Ciconia.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:40:16 2019 No.22243038 >>22243028 but weren't most of them drawn by the guy who did leo? the only other artist i remember was ryukishi.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:40:29 2019 No.22243039 File: 147 KB, 1200x675, dreamteam.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Realistically speaking, can anyone stop these absolute madmen?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:42:24 2019 No.22243047 >>22243038 >Suzuki Jirou >Leo, Philip, Meijiu, Alan, Gabriel, Meixue So not really. You can check the artists on vndb.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:45:48 2019 No.22243053 File: 286 KB, 700x994, 30161966_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Leave the 3 kings to me

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:45:51 2019 No.22243054 >>22243047 damn, i filed a lot of them under ryukishi apparently.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:50:10 2019 No.22243069 >>22242998 Leo is not allowed to be in Ciconia because he's so broken. Ryu had to literally ship him away in RGD to give the story some tension back.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:50:41 2019 No.22243071 >>22243028 What did you hate with Souichirou design? Rose and Stella were pretty good, while Julie had a really long neck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:50:51 2019 No.22243072 Also were the Ryukishi sprites in RGD also finished by Remotaro? There's no way that's his coloring.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:52:59 2019 No.22243079 >>22243071 I guess Souichirou was the other good artist, but I still don't like the mash up of different artists personally. Young Jeanne's sprites were fairly cute too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:54:17 2019 No.22243085 >>22243072 The original potato girl was his drawing, but she has looong legs and he usually draws really stocky characters.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 07:02:44 2019 No.22243105

>>22243071
stella was his only good design. personality aside, i didn't like rose's design at the start.
but then again ryukishi has shown us that the quality of the art doesn't need to be that great as long as the expressions and the writing are good. good designs do elevate the whole thing though.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 07:09:05 2019 No.22243123

>>22243018
My contention is that it's impossible to move through life without going through moments of instability and dependence.
>Lingji relied on technology to pursue a career, but at a critical moment that technology failed her
is analogous to "I relied on my car to get from A to B and then the tank exploded." If that kind of contingent dependency disqualifies you from being a rational animal, then no such thing as a rational animal exists anywhere on earth. "Humans are animals that live in a society", and to pursue self-sufficiency in a societal context is to specialize to a certain extent. This means being dependent on those things by means of which you achieve independence. You acknowledge that you can be a great painter but still starve to death simply because your paintings aren't valued by other humans, you can be amazing at playing the stock market, but if the context you inhabit changes so that you can't make use of that skill to support yourself it's pretty much worthless, which is why you argue that you should not put all your eggs in one basket. Fair enough. But you can also achieve competence across a whole range of subjects, get cancer, and die on the operating table - does that disqualify you from being a rational animal because you put your life in someone elses hands? How many eventualities can you consider? How many times and in how many different fields can you educate yourself before you overstretch your mental capacity? And by what "strength" do you find the time to educate yourself in the first place? The answer is that for the most part it's made possible for you by others.
Every kid that goes to school in a first world country does so thanks to the efforts of people who came before them, and even when you become an adult you never stop being "mediated" by the society you are a part of. Acknowledging that weakness and learning when it's okay to rely on others is also a part of being human.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 07:34:03 2019 No.22243190 [DELETED]

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>>22243123
>My contention is that it's impossible to move through life without going through moments of instability and dependence.
That's where you misunderstand, I agree that you can go through moments of instability, but that does not make you dependent. Your mistake is that any amount of instability automatically leads an individual to become dependent on others by putting their life in the hands of another. It's the difference between losing your job, going through a rough time but persevering, and losing your job, becoming homeless and dying within the weak.
Again, you're misunderstanding the conceptual difference between reliance and dependency. If you were to lose X, would you survive? If you say yes, that means you were merely reliant on it, not dependent. If you say yes, then you die because you were dependent.
You're going through improper epistemological semantics by conflating the two. All you're doing is lamenting that your strength, knowledge and creativity are not omnipotent, omniscient or omnipresent. You refuse to accept that, no matter what, the metaphysical law of identity that limit our consciousness and bodies. To live, you have to co-exist with reality by accepting its limitations and flourish. That's what it means to be self-sufficient, not this false understanding that you are always dependent on something when you're not.

Humans are animals that live in a society, meaning that we are social animals that come together to elevate our standing in reality by forming a civilization. It enables individuals great benefit, but it is nonetheless something that we mustn't become dependent either. If X country were to fall, would you survive? The same conditions do not change.

>does that disqualify you from being a rational animal because you put your life in someone elses hands?
Yes. If you put your life in someone else's hands, it is no longer yours. You are permanently living on borrowed time, and the moment that person lets go, you will be weaker and at the mercy of reality.

>And by what "strength" do you find the time to educate yourself in the first place?
Volitional focus. My persistence to my excellence is the cognitive strength that allows me to educate myself, succeed and thrive.

>The answer is that for the most part it's made possible for you by others.
Yes, I relied on others for my benefit, and it is a great boom to my existence and well being through its knowledge. It would have taken me more time to learn on my own, but that doesn't negate its utility. This passing on of conceptual knowledge is what gives us an advantage over other organisms.

>Every kid that goes to school in a first world country does so thanks to the efforts of people who came before them, and even when you become an adult you never stop being "mediated" by the society you are a part of. Acknowledging that weakness and learning when it's okay to rely on others is also a part of being human.
I have nothing to acknowledge, as what you subtly want to advocate is a sense of obligation and duty. I am respectful of all those that came before me, but these people are dead; I owe nothing. Again, you misunderstand the difference between 'rely' and 'depend.' I've earned what I have. And I am grateful for the past efforts of every human that has brought me here; I owe nothing more. What you advocate is the rejection of living for one's self.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 07:37:39 2019 No.22243205
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>>22243123
>My contention is that it's impossible to move through life without going through moments of instability and dependence.
That's where you misunderstand, I agree that you can go through moments of instability, but that does not make you dependent. Your mistake is that any amount of instability automatically leads an individual to become dependent on others by putting their life in the hands of another. It's the difference between losing your job, going through a rough time but persevering, and losing your job, becoming homeless and dying within the week.
Again, you're misunderstanding the conceptual difference between reliance and dependency. If you were to lose X, would you survive? If you say yes, that means you were merely reliant on it, not dependent. If you say no, then you die because you were dependent.
You're going through improper epistemological semantics by conflating the two. All you're doing is lamenting that your strength, knowledge and creativity are not omnipotent, omniscient or omnipresent. You refuse to accept that, no matter what, the metaphysical law of identity that limit our consciousness and bodies. To live, you have to co-exist with reality by accepting its limitations and flourish. That's what it means to be self-sufficient, not this false understanding that you are always dependent on something when you're not.

Humans are animals that live in a society, meaning that we are social animals that come together to elevate our standing in reality by forming a civilization. It enables individuals great benefit, but it is nonetheless something that we mustn't become dependent either. If X country were to fall, would you survive? The same conditions do not change.

>does that disqualify you from being a rational animal because you put your life in someone elses hands?
Yes. If you put your life in someone else's hands, it is no longer yours. You are permanently living on borrowed time until you live by your own strength, knowledge and creativity, and the moment that cuts their dependency from you, you will be weaker and at the mercy of reality. This puts you in a worse position to survive. You must always enhance your strength, knowledge and creativity as to never become dependent on others.

>And by what "strength" do you find the time to educate yourself in the first place?
Volitional focus. My persistence to my excellence is the cognitive strength that allows me to educate myself, succeed and thrive.

>The answer is that for the most part it's made possible for you by others.
Yes, I relied on others for my benefit, and it is a great boom to my existence and well being through its knowledge. It would have taken me more time to learn on my own, but that doesn't negate its utility. This passing on of conceptual knowledge is what gives us an advantage over other organisms.

>Every kid that goes to school in a first world country does so thanks to the efforts of people who came before them, and even when you become an adult you never stop being "mediated" by the society you are a part of. Acknowledging that weakness and learning when it's okay to rely on others is also a part of being human.
I have nothing to acknowledge, as what you subtly want to advocate is a sense of obligation and duty. I am respectful of all those that came before me, but these people are dead; I owe nothing. Again, you misunderstand the difference between 'rely' and 'depend.' I've earned what I have. And I am grateful for the past efforts of every human that has brought me here; I owe nothing more. What you advocate is the rejection of living for one's self.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 07:44:23 2019 No.22243227 >>22240361 On that note, what factions would Australia and New Zealand be a part of? I would imagine the AOU culturally but because Indonesia, a more geographically close country is COU I cant be too sure

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 07:58:43 2019 No.22243268 >>22243039 Vier shoulda pulled the trigger.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:04:55 2019 No.22243290 >>22243039 well theyre against the messenger of god / auau so yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:08:12 2019 No.22243301 I'm an AOU citizen and honestly Ciconia version sounds like an improvement.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:09:13 2019 No.22243304 >>22243227 >Australia >Being anything other than a crater in this kind of story ever >>22242706 I think at least some part of Lingji probably wanted to trust Miyao to the very end, resulting in her rejection shield not manifesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:25:02 2019 No.22243373 I really love the disconnect between the fucked up shit causing errors in selcom and Keropoyo's humorous, canned responses to it. It's quite creepy too.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:30:47 2019 No.22243398

>>22243039
The wife is fucking around with eldritch knowledge and single handedly giving the middle fingers to all the conspiracies of the world just because she's that batshit crazy.

The husband is fucking all the girls he can find, sipping margaritas while the world is ending, and hitting on his wife's younger clone because she's younger (duh).

Realistically speaking, no-one can stop those absolute madmen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:36:29 2019 No.22243412 >>22243039 She's dead, not part of the real world anymore. So what the fuck was this scene? Explain yourselves /jaypee/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:44:37 2019 No.22243461 >>22243412 It's all in VR.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:48:10 2019 No.22243479 >>22243461 >using a gun in VR

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:57:16 2019 No.22243515 >>22243412 We don't know when the scene took place chronologically. That said, does it really matter? She still exists, regardless of whether she's still 'human' or 'alive'.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:04:55 2019 No.22243548 Lingji is a dirty commie! Fuck her!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:08:05 2019 No.22243561 >>22243479 What if Tojirou doesn't know it's a VR?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:10:07 2019 No.22243568 >>22242431 Blocking input window? I wonder if Ryukishi meant parries and WH got it wrong, or he's just not very knowledgeable of fighting games

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>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:32:08 2019 No.22243651 >>22243592 I wonder if Tomitake just wanted to fuck his daughter like Kinzo.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:41:28 2019 No.22243672
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>>22243568
It definitely was referencing parrying, the previous page referred to "auto-guarding", which would be conventional fighting game blocking. It ended with a "Let's go Justin", referencing Daigo's famous 15 consecutive parries in Evo 2004.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:44:48 2019 No.22243683 >>22243651 OooooOOoOOoh my beloved Miyaaaaoooooo

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:45:25 2019 No.22243685 File: 260 KB, 1014x762, childabuse.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22243651 how many of you would have a vat-grown sex slave if the tech was available?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:46:17 2019 No.22243688 >>22243685 Why bother when you can have VR orgies all day long?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:56:14 2019 No.22243730 >>22241210 >lesser Eva suffered greatly and did her best, Erika is nothing compared to her

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:56:46 2019 No.22243731 >>22243685 I wouldn't fuck Satoko because she poops. Pathetic. I'll wait for the loli sex bots.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 09:58:06 2019 No.22243737 >>22243730 I liked when Hideyoshi told Eva that she's a witch of the kitchen who makes the best sandwiches. Hideyoshi the thot slayer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:05:18 2019 No.22243769 i want to finish inside lingji

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:09:17 2019 No.22243780 >ZUN氏： >「この日を逃すと、もう出すところがない」となるから、みんながんばってゲームを作ることができるんです。それがなくなると、「7月に出そうと思ったけど、間に合わないから9月でいいや」みたいになるのがもう、目に見えているので。だから、即売会はないと困りますね。 ZUN calling Ryuukishi out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:11:49 2019 No.22243790 >>22243780 Google Translate's doesn't give me anything clear, nippon learners what does it say?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:12:13 2019 No.22243793 >>22243780 Can someone enlighten me as to what this is referring to?

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:19:24 2019 No.22243815

>>22243790
>>22243793
ZUN said doujin games won't stop being sold at doujin markets like comiket any time soon, and when asked why he said because it gives developers a specific date to aim for. If that stops being the case developers will be like 'well, I wanted to release it in July, but I won't make it in time so I'll just go for September instead'.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:28:16 2019 No.22243856 File: 51 KB, 500x271, dorothy.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22243731 soon

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:36:05 2019 No.22243890 >>22243856 STOP ANON, SHE'S TOO PURE FOR /jp/, DO NOT EXPOSE HER TO THESE SCOUNDRELS.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:41:06 2019 No.22243913 File: 134 KB, 296x394, hands.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22243815 Sick burn

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:42:59 2019 No.22243922 File: 76 KB, 175x202, ryukishi7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22243815

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 10:52:51 2019 No.22243964

>>22243815
Heh. To be fair though, Ryukishi's operation in this case is a lot more complex than ZUN's, working with more people and having to do a simultaneous release in a different language and so on.
There's a good chance that Ryukishi had to decide between releasing the Japanese and English versions separately or delaying the whole thing, and if that's the case then I'm happy that he chose to truly treat the English-speaking audience as a first class citizen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 11:03:23 2019 No.22244010 >>22243815 To be fair, Ryukishi was working basically 24/7 to draw all the characters within a month to meet the deadline. He was working himself to the bone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 11:09:51 2019 No.22244025 >>22243780 Okay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 11:20:52 2019 No.22244067 File: 2.40 MB, 1920x1080, 864651.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We're not all like that, Ryu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 11:33:42 2019 No.22244103 >>22244067 yeah some of you just want to end humanity

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:05:56 2019 No.22244249

>>22243205
Before anything else, there is no reason to assume that "survival" is the first principle on which you ought to be volitionally dependent. This absolute dependence of "having to survive" is not a natural fact of life, but the result of your subjective absolute identification with that concept. So why do you make that choice? Imo human freedom consists in an important part in our ability to make decisions about what we identify with. You're shoving that aspect of self-determination to the side in your classification of a rational animal - with the result that someone who fit your definition wouldn't be human in the full sense, they'd just be a self-preservation machine that's dependent on survival.

Secondly, I think it's technically impossible for anyone to meet your definition. If my primary "dependence" is survival, I have various options for how I could go about achieving that goal. I'm not dependent on any given one of these options, but I *am* dependent on the sum total of possible moves available to me. You try to classify this as a structure of reliance by treating it as a "catbox of potential" where every time you do something that leads to a dead end it just means you should have done something different or opened up more parallel universes at the same time, but that reasoning only works from a virtual perspective. In praxis your existence can only ever have a finite "surface area", and the totality of your being is and remains the "something" on which you are dependent.
Additionally, whenever you open the catbox of potential and turn a number of these options into actuality, as a temporal being, you bind yourself to a specific way of being and the technological and social contexts within which that way of being "exists" . Every time you make a choice you are tied up with that choice, you become something specific, giving up the illusion of god-likeness as the price for self-realization, you become self-reliant, but at the same time you become dependent on what you have become. To be human is to come to terms with that "necessary vulnerability" which action entails, which is why I think that your philosophy of independence, ironically, makes you weaker and less self-determined than someone who'd be willing to put their very life into someone else's hands under some circumstances.
>what you subtly want to advocate is a sense of obligation and duty.
I'm advocating for self-realization, I just don't think it functions in the way you are arguing it does.

To bring this conversation back to where it started, what, in your opinion, should Lingji have done to be classified as a rational animal? Should she have invented her own software for operating the rejection shield? That would only increase her surface area - she would still be dependent on either software a or software b. Your distinction is merely quantitative, and pursuing its thinking to its logical conclusion only amount to an infinite regress of safeties within safeties. That's not what being human means, man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:11:17 2019 No.22244289 why is the hinamizawa discord infested with sjws

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:13:11 2019 No.22244304 >>22244067 I want Ryu to keep making scenes about how terrible men like this are while simultaneously writing out in graphic detail exactly what's happening.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:13:45 2019 No.22244310 >>22244289 because people often latch onto fiction to support their ideology, and a certain type of person reads higurashi and umineko as "conflict and pursuing the truth bad, mutual trust and accepting each other for who we are good".

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:16:05 2019 No.22244324 >>22244289 >discord There you have it. Literally every discord is like that. I've personally seen Suda51 discord filled with these guys. How, why? Who knows, that's just a fact of life.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:17:57 2019 No.22244338

>>22244289
They're umineko retards who shat up their own discord thanks to their own virtue signaling attention whoring so they went to the higurashi one to escape it but now they're just going to do the same thing there until it turns into what they just left.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:19:00 2019 No.22244345 >>22244289 Who cares.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:22:01 2019 No.22244359 >>22244289 they're not here so why is that a problem

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:23:05 2019 No.22244369

>>22244289
SJWs have a very strong in-group/out-group dynamic and belief that the things that benefit them are also morally right. Plus, they're usually very social since their idology is centered around human interactions and an extreme form of empathy.
The result is that they easily vest themselves in communities and then have no issues with slowly pushing out people that aren't at least vaguely accommodating to their beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:23:27 2019 No.22244373 File: 26 KB, 1300x153, QED.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22244310

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:28:34 2019 No.22244407 >>22244310 >>22244324 >>22244338 >>22244359 >>22244369 know any sjw-free 07th discord server?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:29:52 2019 No.22244418 >>22244407 Alright, I am in one. It's small and isn't exactly well-known, and we want it to remain like that, okay. Here's the link: >>22238013

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:30:00 2019 No.22244421 File: 109 KB, 410x332, sjw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22244289 Based

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:30:51 2019 No.22244428

>>22244373
This is dumb, nobody is saying Ryukishi is anti-SJW. SJWs are weird; they'll list a set of beliefs that are shared by 90% of humanity and declare that everyone who holds those beliefs is on their side, while also thinking of themselves as an underdog fighting the power. They preach love and tolerance but their ideology also requires them to believe that most people are just downright evil. This, coincidentally, is also how every cult ever operates.

>>22244407
I wish I knew any good Discord servers other than the one I run period. One thing I miss about 4chan is that you can't really make friends here, but all places where you can are also generally full of manipulative assholes or just incredibly low tier normie discussion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:30:52 2019 No.22244429 File: 342 KB, 430x720, 1570984252244.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Chloe sucks. Koshka sucks. Miyao sucks. Naima sucks. Jestress sucks. The best girl is pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:31:54 2019 No.22244436 >>22244428 I made a friend on Discord off of lewd discussion, but that's really rare, because you have to risk unwelcome people contacting you on Discord.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:35:00 2019 No.22244461 intelligent, grown adults shouldn't use the words 'SJW'. this is the perfect example why: >>22244421 go back to /v/ if you want to talk about this garbage.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:36:53 2019 No.22244476
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>>22244428
Yeah, it's the double-bind of "if you're not against us we'll treat that like you're implicitly with us, and if any disagreements do crop up you're incompatible with the values of our community."

The literal definition of 1bit

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:36:56 2019 No.22244478

>>22244436
I have a lot of friends that I met on 4chan where we moved the discussion to Discord, but it's hard to do. I've never made a friend by looking for a Discord group and joining it, they're just always terrible. They're inevitably either very large communities of very surface-level normie discussion, or small communities where very dedicated narcissists have pushed all reasonable people out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:37:43 2019 No.22244485 >>22244428 >This, coincidentally, is also how every cult ever operates. interesting observation, these types of people have been around forever, but the internet has allowed this kind of slave morality and collectivist mindset to reach new extremes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:38:51 2019 No.22244496 >>22244461 This.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:42:43 2019 No.22244527 >>22244421 how is umineko antisjw? the entire plot is based on LGBT Issues

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:42:48 2019 No.22244529 File: 311 KB, 396x340, 1557387170057.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22244461 >>22244496 >intelligent, grown adults shut THE FUCK UP BOOMER

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:43:34 2019 No.22244535

>>22244476
Yeah, this whole is-Ryukishi-an-SJW thing is particularly dumb because Ryukishi explicitly criticises people who think of everything as left-vs-right in Ciconia. I'm not sure if the "Ryukishi is an SJW" narrative is a thing in Japan but if it is then I think that Ryukishi was directly addressing that.

>>22244485
I don't really think it's reached "new extremes", it's just the same old shit with a new coat of paint. People have a big conflict, calm down for a while because they remember the horrors of that conflict, then forget over time and start clamoring for war again. There's a really good VN about this called Ciconia no Naku Koro Ni.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:44:06 2019 No.22244538 >>22244529 do your homework and off to bed kid

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:45:16 2019 No.22244545 >>22244527 umineko is against forcing babies to be trans yasu was never given a choice and was raised as a girl but he was obviously uncomfortable with this since he's cis male

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:45:28 2019 No.22244548 >>22244461 >browses /jp/ >intelligent, grown adults

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:45:37 2019 No.22244549 >>22244538 dilate

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:45:58 2019 No.22244552 Remember guys, we're not actually at war with SJW discords, we're just supporting the walls of peace from both sides!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:48:20 2019 No.22244566 >>22244552 The Three Kings were right

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:49:59 2019 No.22244574 >>22244527 No-no, but you see Yasu=villain therefore trans=bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:50:10 2019 No.22244577 File: 81 KB, 363x478, Ka_pc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22244529 *sip

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:50:25 2019 No.22244579 >>22244548 and with a wicked sense of humor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:54:22 2019 No.22244600 File: 99 KB, 729x1200, 1550802304021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22244574 according to whom? didn't you just make that argument up right now to make your perceived opposition look bad?

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:54:51 2019 No.22244602

>>22244535
>I don't really think it's reached "new extremes", it's just the same old shit with a new coat of paint.
while the cycle itself may be the same, the memetic virus that leads to this sort of thing is stronger as well as transmitted at a much faster rate to far more people, and the resulting tragedy far worse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:57:12 2019 No.22244617 i immediately disregard the opinion of anyone that uses the term 'sjw', since 99% of the time anyone that uses that term to criticize something is an obnoxious retard with nothing valuable to say

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:57:59 2019 No.22244626 >>22244617 love and tolerance-pilled

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 12:59:05 2019 No.22244636 File: 60 KB, 253x197, 1570267837260.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this thread really went to shit the second "discord" was mentioned

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:08:13 2019 No.22244686 is there any way to get the entire script for a text search?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:12:53 2019 No.22244703 >>22244574 you're just forcing your own view Ryuukishi07 probably is pro trans rights

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:14:31 2019 No.22244719 >>22244703 holy mother of reading comprehension

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:18:43 2019 No.22244753 >>22244289 because the head mod is a tranny Rev or whatever the fuck the only cool guy there is Jmtrad and a few stragglers here and there

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:21:23 2019 No.22244767 >>22244600 ? You never saw posts like this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:27:14 2019 No.22244787 >>22243039 Whoa I forgot about this scene after reading until I saw this pic again. What the fuck was up with that? It's the only time Vier interacted with anyone outside of her basement cult

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:27:39 2019 No.22244789 >>22244787 Preview for the next episode.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:31:45 2019 No.22244808 >>22244767 you're equating a lack of endorsement with opposition, ideologue-san. the standard line of reasoning here is simply that "showing a person with gender identity issues in a sympathetic light=/=transgender as a way of life good".

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:32:46 2019 No.22244817

Anti-sjws are not against trans rights or whatever. We just don't take it so fucking seriously and approach it from a "total freedom of speech" perspective, rather than a "anyone who triggers me is evil" perspective.

I don't hate LGBT people, if anything it's SJWs that have made me wary of them because they tend to cunningly trick them into joining their cult. It's the only motive for a reasonable individual these days to "hate trans shit". Because it's now associated with these assholes who are against free speech.

I wouldn't even mind having to walk on eggshells around these types if it was just that. I like being polite to a degree. But then you throw in their ridiculous puritanism, love of censorship and hypocritical hatred towards pedos who have done nothing wrong and it's just sickening. Fuck SJWs. And fuck any LGBTPEIYEwhatever who is dumb enough to join their cult.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:35:54 2019 No.22244831 >>22244817 Please go back Stop spamming your shit /v/irgin

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:38:54 2019 No.22244860
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Imagine someone telling you a year ago that motherfucking Tomitake is gonna end up being the biggest ladies man in WTC and his chad seed is going to create the next protagonist who is the most powerful person in the world

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:40:21 2019 No.22244873

it's pretty interesting to see the way this situation was treated on the hinamizawa discord. a bit of joking around, a few comments about how most of /jp/ probably hasn't read ciconia anyway, and a lot of nervously shuffling around the worst-case scenario of actually having a discussion about what exactly was being disagreed with on what basis. humans really are animals that live in a society after all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:42:55 2019 No.22244897 >>22244636 i hope takano puts us all out of our misery

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:43:50 2019 No.22244905 >>22244860 MAD MAN >>22244873 Learn to hide your powerlevel nigger what the fuck did you do anyway?

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:45:06 2019 No.22244916

>>22244428
>they'll list a set of beliefs that are shared by 90% of humanity and declare that everyone who holds those beliefs is on their side, while also thinking of themselves as an underdog fighting the power.
90% of humanity is dumb as shit and will adjust their already liberal beliefs to be even more extreme to please sjws. Normies love to virtue signal.

>>22244817
The dumb masses see the loud minority of trans people who are sjws, and needlessly change their pro-trans views to more extreme ones, thinking this is a noble thing. In that way, sjws turn dumb normies into sjws and become a majority. These are the people making reasonable adults hate anything to do with "trannies" or "gay rights", even if they technically agree with those things. It has become such a totalitarian, puritan ideology that actual GOOD peole are forced to support far right views just so they can kill this SJW plague.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:46:13 2019 No.22244923 >>22244916 based controlled opposition poster

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:47:13 2019 No.22244929

>>22244817
I hate puritans and anything they associate with. Whenever I see someone talking positively about trannies, deep down I agree with what they say but I can't hep but feel disgusted because I just KNOW that person is a censorship lover and a puritan cuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:48:19 2019 No.22244935 File: 126 KB, 710x128, societies.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22244873

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:49:29 2019 No.22244944 >>22244916 >>22244923 >>22244929 >BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED >MUH NON-EXISTANT BOOGEYMAN Fuck off /v/irgins I'm sure there's a twitter screencap thread for you to contain your shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:50:31 2019 No.22244949 >>22244944 who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:50:53 2019 No.22244951 I hope Ryukishi never makes a new game again, all these newfags in this thread are ruining it.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:51:47 2019 No.22244954

>>22244817
>I don't hate LGBT people, if anything it's SJWs that have made me wary of them because they tend to cunningly trick them into joining their cult. It's the only motive for a reasonable individual these days to "hate trans shit".
you do relize that ciconia mentions this exact thing in its story, right? the minority group that acts out and makes their positions hard to agree with despite their arguments.

that's what the term 'SJW' is in american politics. just think about how front-loaded that term is. what imagery and words come to mind when using it. the bue haired screeching woman, the unreasonable, the unflexible.
you're supposed to hate it, and that is its entire purpose. that way you don't have to think about the topic, but at least you're not them..

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:53:09 2019 No.22244963 >>22244916 are you a discordfag LARPing as a far-right lunatic or someone who never moved on from GamerGate and spiraled further and further into /pol/ insanity? In either case, please contain your autism.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:54:01 2019 No.22244969

>>22244817
SJWs are mostly immature teenagers, young adults with mental issues, or old ass feminist who don't even believe their own lies. The rest is just normalfags who agree with them on the outside and will defend them because they appear to be fighting for "freedom". They are not.

None of those people have enough intelligence to handle these things, that's why they get triggered at every little thing and can't properly handle their technically noble movement without turning it into totalitarian shit and creating masses of enemies.

If they did things properly, most of the anti-SJWs would be their allies, and very valuable ones because they are intelligent and capable of reasoning like human beings. But right now, they want them dead and for good reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:56:20 2019 No.22244988 >>22244817 What is this post even?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:57:11 2019 No.22244995 File: 2.93 MB, 1920x1080, galaxybrain.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22244916 >>22244935 society

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:57:43 2019 No.22244998

>>22244954
and where exatly did that imagery come from I wonder, I wonder? wasn't it allowed to become a symbol of left-wing politics in general precisely because the moderates on the left didn't draw a line in the sand between themselves and literal modern totalitarian ideologues?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:58:42 2019 No.22245002 How hard did WH butcher Koshka's speech? Lilja keeps mentioning that she talks like a hick but she's actually talking normally.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:59:09 2019 No.22245005 File: 135 KB, 512x512, Kero_0018_Capa-15.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22244995 how many bits are failsafebrains?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:59:41 2019 No.22245010 >>22244988 Either >Some guy shitposting or >a /pol/ newfag spamming his gay shit It's probably both honestly, hopefully the next thread won't end as awfully.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:59:55 2019 No.22245014 ok but what about Maricarmens butthole

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 14:00:15 2019 No.22245018 >>22245002 Shut up, we're talking about politics now! Don't you understand that this is important?!?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 14:01:09 2019 No.22245027 Everyone, stop. We have to uphold the walls of peace.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 14:01:31 2019 No.22245029 >>22245002 significantly, she ends all her sentences with slurs and Witch Hunt took all of them out while having 0 issues leaving in meow meow meow

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 14:01:58 2019 No.22245032

>>22244998
Why do you act like "the left" is some organisation or something. The moderates on the left are just normal people, why and how would they "draw a line" here? Do you go out of your way to draw a line between yourself and the alt right, and all other crazy right wing groups? I could make this exact same argument about how people call all right wing people Nazi's. The average person just goes about their day normally. Of course the vocal minority of crazy people is going to get heard more, people just need to have more sense to realise that vocal minorities are in fact minorities.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 14:02:31 2019 No.22245037 >>22245005 usually 1-bit you may see the rare multibit brain in the wild though

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 14:02:37 2019 No.22245038 >>22245032 >Do you go out of your way to draw a line between yourself and the alt right, and all other crazy right wing groups? uh, yes?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 14:03:29 2019 No.22245042 >>22245002 She talks with lots of Russian slang and Kizuna can't properly translate some of the weirder words. But we never see it on-screen because it's mostly just Asuka being a cunt and lying about it even when it didn't happen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 14:03:40 2019 No.22245044 >>22245027 but that's what we've been doing, anon!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 14:05:17 2019 No.22245056 guys can we please stop talking about politics in this highly political work ryukishi wanted to write

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