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>> No.22222888

The Ciconia will cry when there are no more humans to give birth.

>> No.22222917

Just got to the part with the agricultural virus. How much of the game is left?

>> No.22222947

The doomsday clock is a good estimator. You're like 2/3rds done if memory serves.

>> No.22222966

You have about 3-5 hours left.

>> No.22222975

Yeesh. Playing on auto scroll with medium text speed makes this game looong.

>> No.22222990
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Piece calls the magic of resurrection "summoning virtual personalities, split parallel thinking"

>> No.22223005

I just read the scene people were memeing about Ryukishi not understanding gays have sex but it never came off that way at all. All i got from it was that Jayden was reluctant to fuck Meow if he found out that her body was a boy's one. I'm reading it in japanese so i don't know if witch hunt fucked up the translation badly so that it seemed that way tho

man i should stop looking up people's thoughts on ciconia on twitter because some of the shit that gets posted is pretty crazy

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If i will have time i will post 2nd charapter today
But i have uni so i dont know

ERIKANTRICE BOORU(post everyrting about erikantrice free):

>> No.22223070

Stick to forums, people get assblasted over anything that could have even a tangential relation to some kind of controversy
I'm starting to think you're not just a shitposter

>> No.22223081

I will always belive in my theory.
2 years for to elaborate erikantrice
Pls read the manifesto and say to me your opinion

>> No.22223085

That was not a compliment

>> No.22223096

Fake and fucking gay.

>> No.22223097

So what?

>> No.22223110
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This is my cute wife Lingji. Please be nice to her

>> No.22223126

Corpse are only good for fucking or rotting.

>> No.22223128
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What did he mean by this?

>> No.22223131

Read it pls before insult
Its very good!!!!

>> No.22223141

Cute traitor!!!

>> No.22223148 [DELETED] 

They're fighting fate. When you play chess, and you can see a checkmate ten moves ahead, it isn't the beginning of the end, but it has already ended; the steps that lead to checkmate are to set.

>> No.22223161

They're fighting fate. When you play chess, and you can see a checkmate ten moves ahead, it isn't the beginning of the end, but it has already ended; the steps that lead to checkmate are set.

>> No.22223244

How could the communists allow disgusting imperial m*narchs to return?

>> No.22223263

Because everyone equally hate imperial family.
No more workers or owners
just emperor haters!!!

>> No.22223283

Tojirou was the best character
Change my mind

>> No.22223286

Just ignore him. He has these internal monologues to make himself feel important and less lonely.

>> No.22223294

Update your translator on kizuna, dude.

>> No.22223302

Kizuna translator cause many wars
My english just cause many butthurt

>> No.22223320
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Reminder that Seshat is real and that their in game and irl goals are just and noble.

>> No.22223324

i didnt mean to reply to you sry

>> No.22223364

Communism loops back to monarchy.

>> No.22223371

My sound is gone again and my solution of removing envdata isn't working anymore. Anyone have a solution?

>> No.22223372

have you tried pressing m

>> No.22223376

Yes, I already told you that last time. That isn't the problem.

>> No.22223386

So seshat is the database put all in a single human
And now she is revolt against the translators?
But why she help mario to destroy 8ms?

>> No.22223395

Okay I'm dumb, I had my computer's sound muted. I still think the envdata fix should work if you ever encounter that problem though.

>> No.22223402
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Wars made humans evolve or destroy them.
Three kings want war to destroy civilization
Translators want war to advance civilizatio and reach god powers.
Sheeshat and bathroom knitgs want stop war to not made world chance.

Every choice will save and destroy the world at same time.

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>> No.22223540

obnoxious idol art of yeladot shavit when

>> No.22223587

all the takano scenes are so fucking kino, she's a better villain here than in higurashi

>> No.22223591

takano just fucks with teenagers because she's bored waiting in higurashi

>> No.22223604
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I'm glad Ryukishi improved his art to the point where I can get turned on by his characters now.

>> No.22223608

Maybe he'll go back to his roots and draw porn?

>> No.22223616
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god i wish

>> No.22223620

if chloe isnt your favorite character after reading the data fragments you don't know SHIT about video games

>> No.22223625

Go ask North Koreans

>> No.22223627

I want to fuck Xi's great grandaughter!

>> No.22223655

He drew porn?

>> No.22223660
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>he doesn't know

>> No.22223669

This is honestly the first time where the art quality hasn't been distracting to me. Like, it's still not good, but it's at the level where it's not making me subconsciously compare it to grade-schooler deviantart drawings and preventing me from thinking things look sexy, cute, or cool when they're intended to

>> No.22223678

Just finished Saku. It was so so so so so so much better than Ciconia. Why did Ryukishi07 lose his way?

>> No.22223691

I just finished the date scene and... yup, pretty sure Miyao and Meow are female. She practically confirmed it and said that revealing their sex would be troublesome/embarrassing for Miyao.

>> No.22223695

Was it really that good? The limited spoilers we've gotten have made it seem like almost omake-tier, and they've all said it was extremely short. I have a hard time believing it could have any powerful scenes or payoffs in that short a time, especially with the scenario setup and new character introductions.

>> No.22223697

Also, Jesus fucking CHRIST, the story got really dark after the keropoyo streaming warning at the end of chapter 7. Like seriously, I felt bad even for the random nameless kids.

This might be the darkest story Ryu has ever written.

>> No.22223704

Don't listen to twitter faggot, they can barely understand what they read and interpret shit in ways that suit their obsessive political agendas.

The same assholes are criticizing Ciconia for its portrayal of DID because it's accurate and doesn't fit their ignorant stereotypes.

>> No.22223707

lmao, i'm just a bit ahead of you and just wait
the game gets more and more crazy with every scene

>> No.22223708

She has a hairy chink pussy. The slut.

>> No.22223710

So far I think Higurashi is still darker, but Ciconia has potential with all the betrayal that will probably be going on.

>> No.22223713

She's not a princess, dude. They just call her that because she's very important for the military and because Momotake is a tryhard.

>> No.22223723

I am different to 22223678, but at first time play I also felt Saku was better than Ciconia (except i was only at credit on ciconia, so its bit unfair at that point).
But still, "last not" had very VERY powerful new character, and gives great extra-ending to umineko, even through it was short.

But I have to say Ciconia after reading "16/16" is like, volcanic. I can't stop thinking about Ciconia. Its both great.

>> No.22223725

Idk man, I thought the guy who hanged himself in the underground laboratory still being alive was already a lot darker than anything higurashi or umineko did, since in those games the deaths were temporary and it reset

>> No.22223728

its hard to really say how i feel about ciconia, ryukishis writing is so inconsistent. umineko 5+6 were so bad i came close to dropping it, 7 was incredible, and then 8 was complete dogshit until the manga rewrite which ended up being some of the best shit hes ever written (confession chapters are utter kino).
episode 1 was fun, but i have no idea what to expect from the rest of ciconia. the rest could either be amazing or dogshit.

>> No.22223729

Higurashi has really dark shit, especially in Matsuribayashi. But it has nothing on this. That propaganda video from the beginning is really fucking ominous after reading the Chloe/Koshka scene and what happens to all the randoms. Fuck.

Also, I like how the themes of Higanbana is coming back in a way.

>> No.22223733

The feeling of paranoia and betrayal is what's dark in Higurashi. The stuff in Ciconia is dark but it's also a lot more "conventional" so it doesn't affect me as much.

>> No.22223735

>temporary deaths
Did we read the same story?

>> No.22223736

ciconia is more directly violent, but since its a fantasy/scifi story it doesn't have the impact. the characters in higurashi feel really grounded, so it hurts more to see them suffer. satoko and her uncle is more depressing to read than any over the top death scene

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Phase 1 was so bad I honestly can't imagine it getting any worse.

>> No.22223743

phase 1 ciconia is better than umineko 6. literally nothing can be worse than the fucking 'get back in my womb' eva and george fight, or any fucking scene with george for that matter

>> No.22223745

i liked all of umineko except episode 8, (the very ending of umineko is fantastic though), i have yet to read the manga, i trust ryukishi enough to at least give me a good time though, even if it goes to shit in the end i'm willing to forgive him

>> No.22223746

It's almost as obvious as Yasu's gender. I guessed it right away and the evidence is pretty conclusive, even without the manga.

>> No.22223748

I disagree a lot but 5, 6 and especially 8 were also my favorite parts of Umineko

>> No.22223751

read the part 8 manga, its the best writing with beato the series ever does and the most insight into her character it ever gives

>> No.22223752

I want this fucking slut to be humiliated and degraded in front of her peers!

>> No.22223754

Animefags, probably.

>> No.22223764

Part 1 was great. It's not Ryukishi's best writing, but it's better than Umineko and Higurashi part 1, which is what it should be compared to.
Also, I thought it looked great, not just by Ryukishi standards but in general. The music was good but a tad disappointing, I hope it gets better.

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I still can't read Saku yet because I still haven't read 7 or 8.

>> No.22223778

Atrocious taste, 5 and 6 were the pinnacle of the story

>> No.22223781
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If Miyao is a girl what's up with blue Miyao's awfully boyish body? Going off of the blue Jayden at the end the blue outfits are meant to replicate their naked bodies.

>> No.22223788

I fucking love Higurashi, Umineko and everything else Ryu has put out. I expect nothing from Ciconia because it didn't seem that interesting at first glance and I couldn't imagine the guy making a third masterpiece. It's just too much.

Turns out Phase 1 has become my absolute favorite. The madman did it again, at least for me. I fucking love the setting and how the story plays out.

>> No.22223792

Half of the mysteries are about faking and the love story is a gay romance.

>> No.22223793

If you keep reading, I think I'd say it's more obvious that it's a boy.

Why would his own father constantly refer to him even in his phone and his own thoughts as a boy if he's actually a girl?

>> No.22223795

As theorized in the last thread, he's probably not a personality and more like someone hacking into his Kizuna to confuse him.

He even changed his avatar on a whim to put on that weird body. He's someone trying to fuck with Miyao by making him think he has a hidden alter with murderous tendencies.

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>Mitake Flash

>> No.22223803

Because Miyao is a guy and his dad doesn't give a shit about his actual sex. He either doesn't give much of a crap about Meow or thinks it's all fake/pretend. If he even knows about her.

>> No.22223804

I'm expecting it will be good.

>> No.22223805

Oops didn't mean to quote

>> No.22223812

That doesn't really prove anything.

>> No.22223819

Why would he not care about his actual sex? He refers to his son constantly as a boy, and would have the opportunity to have confirmed his sex. And since we know that Miyao is the default personality given that it's the only one we see his father recognize, there's no reason to assume that Miyao has had an opposite-gender personality as his default for his entire life. You have to jump through many more hoops to assume that Toujirou is wrong than to assume that he's right.

Why not?

>> No.22223820

they bathe together

>> No.22223847

i think it'd make more sense for the things evil miyao says to be the truth. he's saying a lot of mysterious stuff and i can't imagine ryukishi going 'lol he's just bullshitting'.

>> No.22223853

There is no "default personality", they were born like that. Miyao is fronting most of the time because he's the stronger, more outspoken personality and they decided to set it up that way, but that has nothing to do with their body. They were born at the same time.

They could still be male, but everything is pointing to the opposite. Miyao's complexes, Meow's comments about it that all but confirm it, and their girly shape itself. I think the dad obviously knows but considers him a son because he's insistent on being treated like a guy.

It's a faction where biological sex doesn't mean much, socially speaking. And Toujirou must be well aware of his kid's DID, considering his P3 level is through the roof. If he's always acting like Miyao and Meow herself has to imitate Miyao to avoid being exposed as weirdo, it's only natural that his dad considers him a guy.

Hell, if he's aware of the DID, the name "Miyao" refers strictly to the personality. The body itself only has a name in the official registers, but they really are two people.

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there are 24 cities if you count the one at the top that is out of frame.

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Which city is above Wellington?

>> No.22223872

thats not why people joke about ryushiji not knowing about gay sex, its when the nun says that in homo relationships your partner cant be after your bod therefore the love is pure

>> No.22223875

>tfw no australian ciconia characters

>> No.22223882

Maricarmens brown asshole

>> No.22223883

i just started reading it and holy shit you're right, the episode 8 manga is fantastic. it gives off a really sad and bittersweet feeling that never came off in the VN for me, and the way it characterizes Beatrice is incredible. Did R07 have a heavy hand in making the manga?

>> No.22223886

Yes but i have few time because i need study for uni
So wait
Quality ans slow >>>>>fast and shit

>> No.22223887

The nuns are gag fujos though

>> No.22223891

im pretty sure fujos know about sex

>> No.22223892

from what i know yes, he is credited directly as the writer (not just 'original creator') for all manga volumes

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best girls

>> No.22223902

He's a congenital. He's had Meow by his side since they can remember. Even if they are a girl, Miyao could just be more willing to live life, while Meow prefers to spend most of the time observing or sleeping instead of dealing with life. She let him handle most things and eventually people started recognizing them as a guy because that's what Miyao claims and that's how he acts. And by that point, it's hard to let Meow live her own life without having to tell everybody about their condition, or looking like Miyao just became a total faggot. It's not like anyone could instantly know, they look androgynous as hell.

Miyao being in charge has nothing to do with their real gender, because it's not like Meow was born later on as a result of some trauma. It's a congenital trait. She was always there, even before giving herself a distinct name. Therefore, they could be either gender, who knows which.

Meow explicitly said at one point that a gender reveal would be problematic for Miyao, and also fuck up their established social life, and that she doesn't have a body that would displease Jayden. It's pretty clear.

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is jrestress the real mastermind or tomitake

>> No.22223916

That's not Ryu's opinion. It's just a fucking joke about how men are generally considered to be obsessed with sex while women are more into your attitude and confidence. Not necessarily true, but it's a character speaking, not the author.

And I think she actually meant that having the same body parts as your partner would make you less excited about the visual part of sex, since you both have the same thing and it's not a mysterious pussy/dick of the opposite gender. So you'd think less about the physical aspect of it.

>> No.22223919

the 'its not about the body' is just literal fujo dialogue thrown in as a joke. ryu has always loved fujos

>> No.22223920

>And I think she actually meant that having the same body parts as your partner would make you less excited about the visual part of sex, since you both have the same thing and it's not a mysterious pussy/dick of the opposite gender. So you'd think less about the physical aspect of it.
you're reaching

>> No.22223924

is tomitake a closet pedo ? thats why his wife left him?

>> No.22223928

>gag fujos
The black one writes bait blog posts to get her followers arrested for wrongthink when they express their agreement. She's an evil agent of the religious police state.

>> No.22223936

nothing closet about it

>> No.22223938

Why is big ass just as lewd as no ass?

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>> No.22223943

I agree, but I wouldn't put it past ryuukishi to make her a trap anyway.

>> No.22223947

>closet pedo
You mean toybox pedo.

>> No.22223959

>it gives off a really sad and bittersweet feeling that never came off in the VN
but that's exactly how i would describe the VN.
you sure make me want to read the manga though.

>> No.22223966

So if Jayden ends up falling in love with both Miyao and Meow, do you think that they can switch personalities in the middle of sex so its like a threesome ?

>> No.22223969

where can I find all the sprites clean, does someone has a dump ?

>> No.22223974

I wouldn't buy it, with the heavy themes this game has put on physical intimacy and sexual breeding over artificial wombs, this story ending without someone getting pregnant is unlikely in my eyes.
I'm gonna bet it ends with Miyao dying and granting the body over to Meow.

>> No.22224029

Higu is darker in terms of the "gap" between the friendship the characters share and the events that tear it apart, ciconia hasn't focused enough on character to make the tragedy hit home as hard on an emotional level so far, but it's definitely leagues above in terms of pure cruelty and scale.

>> No.22224036

That's kinda cool because it would technically make Miyao reverse Yasu. Biologically female with a dominant male personality and a secondary female one for coping purposes.

>> No.22224038

who the fuck is saint ioannis

>> No.22224039

Ciconia will tie the ryushikiverse together
not only wtc
higanbana & rgd
his harem manga
and this

>> No.22224047 [SPOILER] 
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>> No.22224053

that's basically just about the book of revelation apparently.
here's a lengthy analysis by some group about the parallels between revelations and ciconia. a lot of interesting stuff in there.

>> No.22224066

guess revelation is to ciconia what the divine comedy was to umineko?

>> No.22224079

can anyone post the ciconia factions world map?

>> No.22224118

Iōánnēs just means "John", yo. The Revelation of John. AKA the Book of Revelations, the last entry of the New Testament with all that apocalyptic goodness.

>> No.22224123

Blue Jayden is ripped to fuck with the body of a greek god. Blue Miyao is small and slender in comparison.

>> No.22224151


Can't believe I doubted him.

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>> No.22224185

So the title is basically "when you give birth"? Higurashi was essentially "when summer begins" and Umineko was "when the typhoon has passed", but Ciconia is weird.

>> No.22224187

>wrong text under LATO

>> No.22224195

only the english part though. maybe some jap wasn't paying attention when doing their job

>> No.22224224

where do i download this shit in english

>> No.22224227
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beta version so expect change and expect many days for chapter 2

>> No.22224247

Can someone please post wisdoms mentioned so far?

>> No.22224256

Terrible taste.
>7 was incredible
Okay, except for this.

>> No.22224273

19080630 was the one gray had
"possible key to a puzzle that consumed 34". called "Third missing link"
didn't write down the others but i'll get to it eventually.

>> No.22224335

more like when you stop giving birth
ie factory hell bad ending

>> No.22224339

I wish "fan editing" was a thing. Ciconia Phase 1 was overall good, only brought down by some repetitive parts. It could be really perfect if about 15% of it was edited out.

>> No.22224340

>possible key to a puzzle that consumed 34
maybe the logic error super paper was stuck in she mentionned that in umi6

>> No.22224380

How do you get these from an obvious shot of the North Pole

wonder why we didn't get the full names for the characters that were given them in the story
would be a mare with Rethabile but with Lingji it's literally a hanzi more

>> No.22224390

Who dropped ice cream on this girl?

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i wonder if this is talking about the other gauntlet lingji had at the end.

these were decoded last thread from the writings on screen.
>an obvious shot of the North Pole
i didn't think it was that obvious. are you from the north or something that these shapes look so familiar to you?

>> No.22224424

Real interesting, thanks for sharing.

Now that I'm reading that excerpt from the book of Revelation is present in the Kizuna error screen, I finally realized that the fucking feathers are clear angelic references. It's obvious in retrospect, I don't know why I never made the connection.

Are Gauntlet Knights supposed to be the Angels of the book of Revelation? Or endowed by the Angels?

Great, now I'll need to read the Book of Revelation and connect the dots. Here goes my free time.

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I wouldn't say *far* north, but middle of Europe still; it may be hard because we're used to landmass being shown in a lighter colour than the waters, but even the shapes of the map covered by the clock are unmistakable (Kamtchatka, Greenland, Iceland, Scandinavia, Hudson and the Caspian)

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Anon meant Takano, not Lambda.

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Reposting the reversed news tracks.

>News: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0uIOKq5TOjr
0-20 sec: repeats pic1, then goes on its own.
I can't make it out.
>News2: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0zXt81eYk7K
Repeats pic2, then ends.
>News3: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0jdyWfWrNYP
I can't understand anything.

I'll try again later.

>> No.22224595

i wonder if that is chuunishit or if it means something.

>> No.22224633

I thought about it for exactly 5 seconds and came up with an idea that "Miyao" can be written as 380, so keep an eye out for that I guess.

>> No.22224646

What about Higanbana?

>> No.22224682

Well, 1908 06 30 refers to the Tunguska event, no idea about the rest.

>> No.22224773

That sounds like Tomitake is going to force Miyao to win yet again

>> No.22224780

Any spoilers for Saku? What's it about and what's the ending?

>> No.22224786
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From the page of year 380 on Wikipedia.

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>Jestress is wearing a shirt with the EXACT same collar as Takano
Was Ryukishi lazy or is this a hint?

>> No.22224852

God I hope Meow has a hairy pussy and not a dick!

>> No.22224886

>his harem manga
Is that "When the game ends"?

Because apparently Wanyadora is an important game there.

>> No.22224893

Ryuukishi has been foreshadowing Ciconia in all of his works.

Remember Beato talking about "teenagers with superpowers with the fate of the world in their hands"? Or Zel from RGD imagining a device that could translate what people say instantly?

>> No.22224898

Humiliation anon are you out there?

>> No.22224903

Mario killed him by restoring everyone's dignity
He is no more

>> No.22224907

Higanbana was "when the angsty preteen kids kill themselves"

>> No.22224941

Higanbana had lolis being turned into deformed lumps of flesh and suffering forever inside the acid stomach of a youkai.

But this is more tied to reality, so it's more fucked up. Little kids being bred in factories in ridiculously large numbers, being SET UP to fail at life, being constantly beaten by the instructors, being used to feed the ego of someone more talented than them so that kid can become an ace. And then there's all those kids who got fascinated by the sky and wanted to become gauntlet knights, only to end up dissected alive and disposed of with all their skin torn off.

>> No.22224953

Who will be the main target for humiliation in ciconia?

>> No.22224955

This is the last time he was spotted


>> No.22224959

chloe obviously, she was written with humiliation in mind

>> No.22224966
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When God expelled Adam and Eve from paradise, He used His holy sword of fire to slice the bottom part of their torso, thus creating the butt. After that day, they were forced to survive in the human world and eat unholy food full of impurities that they had to shit out of their anuses.

The butt crack is a mark of shame that has been passed down from generation to generation. That's what "child of man" means. Featherine is making fun of Ange because she's a child of man and therefore her butt is split in two. Witches do not have a butt crack or an asshole, because they are not lowly humans.

Ange's ass. The most shameful part of her body. The part where Ange's back loses its noble name.

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"Ephraim sauntered, wiggling his buttock-augmentation. Life couldn't get any better. This, he knew, was due to an incontrovertible fact:

Naked asses are the final equalizer. Everyone's got an ass and, if honestly appraised, they all look ridiculous.

Imagine Saddam naked, awkwardly bending for the soap. Or Osama squatting in a humid cave. Don't seem so threatening now do they?

The ass has equalized.

But Ephraim thought he had the system beat. His logic; if all asses are ridiculous, then mine will be the most ridiculous of them all.

I will be King of all Asses.

A difficult point to argue."

>> No.22224978

strange, with so many girls literally made for humiliation you would think he would be around more

>> No.22224986
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What's with her hand gesture?

Is it related to the weird, illuminati ass special handshake Toujirou and the Brazilian general did?

>> No.22224988

He seems to have transformed into guro anon, who posted about Naima getting her teeth pulled out one by one without anesthesia. Dunno if it's the same guy.

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>tfw you'll never look like a normlord on the outside
Why live?

>> No.22225091

Go to university
Do what u like
Become the best
And find an eva big tits gf
Image care about look ir social position like a normie

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>> No.22225111

>transparent hair that looks like a bunch of tentacles
>the inside of her hands isn't white
>her feet are probably 100% chocolate too
She's a squid kid! She's not human!

>> No.22225116

Everyone says they're a gangster, until it's time to do what a gangster must.

>> No.22225119

Last Note translation when?

>> No.22225122

Toujirou acts more like RGD Tomitake than Higurashi Tomitake.

>> No.22225161

RGD tomitake was stupid and got himself killed in a retarded way though

>> No.22225167 [DELETED] 

It's so weird to see a black character that isn't an uncivilized "African American" with low IQ.

It really makes you remembers that races are all very similar, even though they do have physical and intellectual differences as a whole, and it's their circumstances that give them a bad reputation. Currently, nigs are only living in third world African shitholes or in poor American neighborhoods, raised in a hood culture that rewards being a brute. Only nigs born from middle-class immigrants in a first world country ever become respectable human beings like everyone else.

>> No.22225195

Fuck off to >>>/pol/ with your shit.

>> No.22225224

I want to eat Rethabile's chocolate feet.

>> No.22225271

He have rigth
If africans are so smart why african characters in ciconia are so shit?

>> No.22225280

Just let it die

>> No.22225311

A "small stellated truncated dodecahedron" would actually look indistinguishable from a normal dodecahedron, since those modifications end up canceling each other out. I don't know if that's a hint or if this is just Ryukishi using geometric terms without understanding them.

>> No.22225312

I know the motif of the object is from the book appeared at the end,
but just found that "birth stone" of 19940305 is
Wisdom 19940305 attacks sea, if i remember. is there any chance with this?

>> No.22225316

I mean object 19940305

>> No.22225326
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Let's rate the girls:

>Meow (if really female)
-Attractiveness: high
-Cuteness: high
-Lewdness: low

-Attractiveness: very high
-Cuteness: medium
-Lewdness: high

-Attractiveness: high
-Cuteness: high
-Lewdness: very high

-Attractiveness: low
-Cuteness: medium
-Lewdness: low

-Attractiveness: very high
-Cuteness: medium
-Lewdness: high

-Attractiveness: very high
-Cuteness: high
-Lewdness: medium

-Attractiveness: medium
-Cuteness: low
-Lewdness: high

-Attractiveness: medium
-Cuteness: low
-Lewdness: low

-Attractiveness: medium
-Cuteness: high
-Lewdness: medium

-Attractiveness: very high
-Cuteness: very high
-Lewdness: medium

-Attractiveness: medium
-Cuteness: medium
-Lewdness: medium

-Attractiveness: high
-Cuteness: high
-Lewdness: medium

-Attractiveness: medium
-Cuteness: low
-Lewdness: medium

-Attractiveness: high
-Cuteness: high
-Lewdness: high

-Attractiveness: very high
-Cuteness: high
-Lewdness: high

-Attractiveness: medium
-Cuteness: low
-Lewdness: medium

-Attractiveness: medium
-Cuteness: very high
-Lewdness: high

-Attractiveness: medium
-Cuteness: high
-Lewdness: low

-Attractiveness: high
-Cuteness: low
-Lewdness: medium

-Attractiveness: high
-Cuteness: high
-Lewdness: very high

>> No.22225335

If you add "American" to something, it drops the IQ level by half.

>> No.22225344

She's human. I bet the furniture in the palace can attest to that, especially the toilet!

>> No.22225352

White hands and soles is what puts me off about black girls IRL, unless they are super beautiful. Something about it makes the black skin look like fur or something.

Based Ryuukishi genetically engineering his Africans so they look as attractive as possible!

>> No.22225359

>Gunhild in black

>> No.22225361

They are all MPD nutjobs and half of them take hard drugs anyway. Disgusting.

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Is this the most accurate portrayal of the characters in live action so far?

>> No.22225381
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>-Attractiveness: low
>-Cuteness: medium

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Just how much humiliation would you put her through?

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Naima has the absolute coolest gauntlet. Everyone in her squad has cool futuristic designs, but she takes it to the next level. It's like a creepy snake thing that comes from under her armpit.

Naima's armpit snake! Lewd!

>> No.22225449

She and saudi arabia girl are the same person like umineko
Prove me wrong /jp/
They never be at the same time outsite virtual world

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Sujatha should have more under cuteness.
Same with Koshka

>> No.22225464

Why is Jayden so dense? Even after befriending Meow the previous night he still treats Miyao like he's some faggot who is just making up a female personality or something. Rude.

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Meow - Decently attractive, cute, and lewd in equal measure, a girl just above the average in every way.
Chloe - Too evil. Until we learn why she killed Lilja, I can't like her.
Koshka - Unbelievably cute and precious. Adorable daughter. Best girl. Protect. Destroy russia for their crimes. Save her.
Lilja - Forced. Unpleasant but may just be doing her job with no malevolence. Did she deserve to die? I don't know.
Naima - cute potat
The rest aren't worthy of focus or acknowledgement yet.

>> No.22225472

I bet her loli feet are all sweaty inside those boots.

>> No.22225484

Didn't they appear in public at the same time during VR segments? Including the festival and the bath house chat room?

If they were sharing the same brain, they would be using a single selcom and disappear whenever the other spoke, like Miyao and Meow. You can't have two separate selcoms in your brain.

>> No.22225488

>Lilja - Forced. Unpleasant
She's high on drugs all the time, give her some slack.

>> No.22225494

Not to mention that they'd have to fake their entire backstory and also switch their selcom avatars within seconds every time they talked. Nobody is that fast.

>> No.22225495

Papa Mitake in action

>> No.22225501

I want to give this lewd ass potato loli bitch the yukkuri treatment and watch her scream.

>> No.22225508

>The rest aren't worthy of focus or acknowledgment yet.
You could at least add in Gunhild, Lingji, and Rethabile, who all got decent development this phase.

>> No.22225514

I like how Ryuukishi always gives characters weird ass anime verbal tics and then gives us an actual reason for them to talk like that.

He pulled that shit with Rika (is just faking being a child and failing at it), Maria (autistic as hell) and then this druggie Asuka expy who can't stop randomly meow when she talks because she's so hyper.

>> No.22225520

I don't know how I fall for it every time and assume it's a cringy anime thing. I should know Ryu better.

>> No.22225524

Are the 4 confirmed phases for all of ciconia or just WTC5? Then we get answer arcs as usual.

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I like how it's implied that their gung-ho attitude is an act. The way ythey put on a show of being religious fanatics is just like how idols act all cute and friendly when on stage. But when the show ends, they start to act more normal.

>> No.22225535

I don't care about answers, I just want this ride to keep going for 8 episodes because it's so fucking good.

He's being weirdly obtuse about it, so maybe it really is just 4 phases.

>> No.22225554

>"undisclosed acts involving good deeds"

>Black nun
>baits people into getting arrested

>of the 20 idols only she appeared in later videos

They are all fucked up. Maybe they think they're doing a good thing because they're religiously brainwashed.

>> No.22225563

Is loli armpit the lewdest body part?

>> No.22225580

The street where Jayden chased "Meow" early in the story is apparently based on Paseo de Gracia in Barcelona.

>tfw Ryuukishi has been here taking pictures and I didn't know

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Yeah, but I think it's more them trying to put on a show to fit in with their factions ridiculous thought policing. They drop the act after the transmissions over, expressing concerns that go against what they'd just been preaching.

>> No.22225606

made for eating out

>> No.22225607

ryukishi doesn't get out of his house, he just uses stock images

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The Christian God is evil and wants to put people into a VR paradise by ripping their spine out.

The shinto-like 8MS are present everywhere in the world and control Gaia/Keep it alive. 8MS saved humanity in the third world war. One of the first thing God does is killing 8MS as soon as possible by "inspiring" the Ark searcher to build a 8MS killing machine.

The final confrontation will be between Shintoism and Christianism. The 8MS nanobots will raise against alien God in Japan's hour of greatest need. Mark my word.

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>> No.22225618

>it's more them trying to put on a show to fit in with their factions ridiculous thought policing
This seems to be the case. The way they act doesn't appear genuine at all.

>> No.22225620

naima has the coolest and biggest and most bulging ribbons

>> No.22225621

all impregnable

>> No.22225628

>The Christian God is evil
I mean, this is all based on the bible. That book Christians never actually read. God is a complete monster in the bible, it's not even up to interpretation.

>> No.22225631

"Why don't you go inside my room? It has nice convection heaters, I don't even feel nuclear winter outside"

>> No.22225635

Gunhild's still too mysterious, we don't know enough about her.
Lingji, due to the last sequence, has something that can't be adequately judged until we know more.
Rethabile.. is just kind of annoying I guess. I don't like her pride.

>> No.22225638

Rethabile is a spy, 100%. Isn't it convenient that her brother died just as she found out where he is?

>> No.22225639
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Cutest girl in WTC history.

>> No.22225644

So the Kings are based on Battler, Hideyoshi, and Krauss right?

>> No.22225646

So wait, did Maya die or did she become a secondary secretary?
Getting mixed messages due to fragment 15/16

>> No.22225649

everybody's lewdness is very high

>> No.22225651

>no Seshat
That bitch is like the hottest one.

>> No.22225658

She probably started as a secondary, then one of the perv introduced her to the Geroy thing.
That or there are 2 maya characters.

>> No.22225659

>I don't like her pride
She's fun. And if she has pride, she can be humiliated.

>> No.22225672

Yeah its definitely up for debate. Seems weird that she'd be shipped off to LATO to become a secretary if she was training in AOU though. But unreliable narration is a common hallmark of WTC.

>> No.22225673

She became a secondary secretary in the hopes of finding a way up, then when that didn't turn out as planned she fled to the military facility as her last chance of becoming a gauntlet knight, where she signed up for the operation and died.

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>Rethabile.. is just kind of annoying I guess. I don't like her pride.
Who wouldn't be proud in her situation? She's part of the royal family in a country with a massive cult of personality, North Korea style. She officially does not poop like commoners do. She doesn't even have an anus. Nobody in her family does. This is taught in schools all across Africa and everyone believes it.

That puts her above the foolish masses as a human being, since she lacks the one thing that prevents pride and dignity from being permanent. Even if it's all fake, she has more than enough reason to be prideful.

>> No.22225687

you're falling into the han trap anon

>> No.22225697

So do people in the AOU and ACR have families, or are they raised by the state to be selected as either "blue growth targets" or "green bullying fodder"?

>> No.22225700

God just shut up. We finally have a new WTC to discuss and still all you talk about is humiliation shit.

>> No.22225710

Did you even read the data fragments? They treat everyone from the same "batch" (year of spawning) as siblings, a whole bunch of brothers and sisters without parents.

>> No.22225712

Maya lived the life of an Asanagi doujin mc.

>> No.22225718

Good god, I want to fuck Rethalibe, Naima and Valentina. This WTC has the hottest characters yet.

>> No.22225720

In the AOU they're raised by the state, they usually have a good amount of siblings (Jayden had 30) but I imagine they aren't all that close realistically speaking.
Shit's fucked to be honest

>> No.22225731

The new WTC is based entirely around the human condition.

>> No.22225733

Weren't the WTC OSTs released on Spotify? I can't find them

>> No.22225734

If Maricarmen is speaking Spanish and her Kizuna is translating it for everyone, is that the reason everyone refuses to call her Marica even though she keeps asking them to do it? Does Kizuna translate it as "call me Faggot" and they all think she's crazy?

>> No.22225745

They meet up and chill every month, pretty sure they're tried and true family as far as it matters.

>> No.22225748

>not wanting to force them to become a human centipede and lick each other's assholes until they die of malnutrition

>> No.22225750

>They treat everyone from the same "batch" (year of spawning) as siblings, a whole bunch of brothers and sisters without parents.
>falling for official state propaganda
Everybody is a sociopath with no familial ties with anyone and even less empathy towards those outside their immediate batch.

>> No.22225754

So this is what they meant when they said that it's a land of cold blooded values.

>> No.22225755

Are Jayden and Gunhild state sponsors now?

>> No.22225756

I want to fuck Valentina, Jestress, and Seshat.

Valentina is the classical gushing bimbo Brazilian slut. Jestress is the classy of classiest girl, you want to do bad things to her just to see her humiliation. Seshat is sex incarnate.

I'd tie all three of them in my basement in a heartbeat.

>> No.22225758

May I ask why you are quoting me on something I haven't said?
Also, surely nobody would be so daft as to have to be forced to lick any of their assholes?

>> No.22225760

>Jayden organizes a family conference to meet his siblings in person
>Beatrice murders them all in a ritual

>> No.22225768
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I think you guys are talking about this scene, which indeed worded pretty weird. I wonder if it's a translation issue?

>> No.22225770

Based AOU. Family is a lottery and total bullshit. You should be free to choose who you spend your time with without being guilt tripped into being close to your family members even if you have nothing in common or they are assholes.

>> No.22225777

How did Etika get into Ciconia?

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>> No.22225793

No they're just brainwashed into thinking their society is normal and everybody should arrive to be like them. I don't have my game open right now but that is legitimately the description of how AOU views the world if you remember.

>> No.22225797

Look at Jestress' neck. She's fucking wearing Vier's lab coat under her dress.

>> No.22225800

I read it in Japanese and remember rolling my eyes at this.

>> No.22225804

What is the Central Ocean? Is there an actual new ocean?

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I can't tell if this conversation is insightful or what. Like, he has genuine good points, but then falls for really basic shit.

>> No.22225809

She's either Takano's child or a clone. She looks far too much like a younger Takano.

>> No.22225810

Young clone

>> No.22225813

Are you guys like, completely unfamiliar with jp media? Fujoshit is always played off like a joke.

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I SWEAR Ryu reads these threads and feeds humiliation anon.

>> No.22225816

Ryukishi is a cuck.

>> No.22225821

>no friends to talk about ciconia with
it hurts

>> No.22225828
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Ancient Egyptian wearing jeans with her slutty panties hanging out like Mamiya Rina.


>> No.22225830

More than anything I'm attracted to her golden eyes.

>> No.22225835
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There are disturbing as hell.

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I can't tell if this conversation is insightful or what. Like, he has genuine good points, but then falls for really basic shit like pic related.
I'm very familiar with fujoshi, and I bet more than you. That sentence is 100% serious and isn't talking about fujoshi (He at tone point actually parodies Yuri fans, though), he's a general statement about women and homosexual couples by straight characters which straight up doesn't make much sense (Like also pic related).
"Your partner isn't just after you body", what the fuck does it even mean?

>> No.22225837

Nothing wrong with encouraging a little fertility in the name of the Nile.

>> No.22225838

The polish condition

>> No.22225841

>No friends at all
That's even worse, at least I have you fags to shout at.
But anyway, who's your favorite character so far? Mine's Koshka

>> No.22225843

I can be your friend anon.

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I like how the sprite flipping makes it seem like her panties are oversized and constantly moving around, rubbing her hairy pussy.

>> No.22225852

She's making that face because she's not supposed to poop but everyone outside her faction knows the truth about her humanity and mocks the ARC for their ridiculous propaganda.

>> No.22225856

>but then falls for really basic shit like pic related.
But that line is immediately shot down by saying "yes, sexual compatibility is actually an emotionally important aspect for many". It's Lingji being wistful, not R07 saying "everyone should be bisexual!!".

>> No.22225860

The point is, it makes so little sense, and is literally contradicted by the narrative and other characters, that it is difficult to take it seriously. Maybe Ryukishi is making a point that some of the nations have become thoroughly brainwashed by PC culture.

It could really be that Ryukishi drank the kool-aid, but this is the most embarrassing praise of homosexuality I heave ever read if that's the case. Like, genuinely retarded. Ryukishi doesn't do retarded, usually.

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>Stephanie knows what it's like to be part of a family
There's a chance of me making her a mother yet.

>> No.22225867

I'm sorry to hear anon
I just finished it so it's still a bit fresh but probably Koshka or Lilja, I would've put Chloe up there too but you know....
Hello friend

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Oh I know, but it's stupid that 1) She would single out men for that. 2) Single out straight men while the story repeatedly acknowledges homosexual people exist.
It's not like it's a particular hard concept to understand anyway, the whole conversation was a bit jarring. I know Japan is a bit behind when it comes to understanding these stuff, but while it an interesting convo it also made my eyes roll a couple of times.

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>> No.22225887

>He's the guy that's been spamming this shit all this time
What a madman

>> No.22225890

Chloe is a good girl! Chloevil just needs to be okonogichopped out of her!

>> No.22225891

I think it's actually La Pedrera.

>> No.22225898

Dude, for RGD he literally took picture in front of me. I was astonished to see my school in that game two years later.

>> No.22225899
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>And I think she actually meant that having the same body parts as your partner would make you less excited about the visual part of sex, since you both have the same thing and it's not a mysterious pussy/dick of the opposite gender. So you'd think less about the physical aspect of it.
>mysterious pussy/dick

>> No.22225901

God fucking DAMN.

>> No.22225915

Where do I go to get some Umineko Ch 9 spoilers? I need to know what this shit is about. What could it POSSIBLY be about? The book is already closed on it.

>> No.22225916

so what is the deep lore behind wowowow and Woo!

>> No.22225918


We got a Ciconia conspiracy theory already. Still doesn't beat Rosatrice in lenght.

>> No.22225922
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>implying that just doesnt excite me more

>> No.22225926

Spoiler, it has something to do with Asumu.

>> No.22225929

Andry's alternate personality is Ric Flair

>> No.22225931

Battler's mom goes around and vores people with her hair while double-peace-sign ahegaoing. That's what it's about.

>> No.22225932

I'd kill myself if I had to listen to that guy in my head for the rest of my life.

>> No.22225934

does battler try to fuck his mom too?

>> No.22225937

This but unironically. Why is she a loli, though? And why doesn't he recognize her? Assuming Asumu looked like that, since all fan depictions made her into a sweet redhead which doesn't make sense because Battler isn't even her son.

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>> No.22225942

It's about a new witch who challenges Battler, Ange & Beato to figure out her identity. She's pretty amazing, managed to become one of my favorites in just a few hours.

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>> No.22225946

Well, that's interesting I guess. But does it have any significance to the story really? When I finished Umineko, Battler's "mom" was the last thing on my mind.

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It's a joke. She peace signs because she's called Piece.

Also, both of her hands extended with double peace signs is a metaphor for supporting the WALLS OF PEACE from both sides. It's implying that supporting the walls of peace makes the people in a nation ahegao and drown in the pleasure of PEACE. Get it? Piece is cumming!

>> No.22225958

She's a witch created by Featherine, the appearance of her human self is unknown.

>> No.22225964

I think we can all agree that Mario was a top lad

>> No.22225968
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>jacking off together and porn unites us all
what a revolutionary

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Jesus Christ, between this and this >>22225874 I'm starting to believe that Ryuukishi is fucking amazing at English, reads these threads, is responsible for the humiliation pastas and is making all these strangely coincidental wordplay metaphors in ENGLISH on purpose.

>> No.22225975

Don't really care too much about the rest from the girls' side, but this is honestly looking like the best WTC cast so far (or at least one with the most potential)

>> No.22225980

It's basically just an epilogue, not a continuation of the main story. It's only about 2 hours long and not especially relevant to the main story of Umineko.

>> No.22225984

Mario is definitely, certifiably /ourguy/

>> No.22225986

There was even a Rina reference during the Okonogi collage tip. With panties hanging out and all.

He hasn't forgotten about her. In fact, Seshat practically has her personality.

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When reading through this, I couldn't help but think of AC3 Electrosphere. Good game.

>> No.22225992

The ending is seriously emotional and cathartic, it works well to wrap up the series.

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Someone post the Takano edit of this.

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This fandom I swear.

>> No.22225998


Okay, so it's kinda like Saikoroshi in Higurashi then. I look forward to when my EOP ass can read it.

>> No.22226001

I'm sure Vier's eyes are like that intentionally, as a reference to this. Why else would they change so much when they originally were really damn big?

>> No.22226007

Why does nobody like niggy princess? I think she has the best personality and design by far.

>> No.22226020

Wut? Going by these threads she's one of the favorites.

>> No.22226024

>Rudolf having two women at once because one has a curvy womanly body and one's a Loli and he wants to enjoy both types
I wouldn't put it past Rudolf.

>> No.22226028

I don't think this will end at phase 4. There's no way Ryukishi's next work can top these characters and setting. This is a goldmine.

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theyre all qt anon

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I need to actually play it. I've had the patch downloaded for like two years already.

>> No.22226035

You're not shitting me right anon? Because I fucking love Electrosphere and that sort of comparison just rocketed Ciconia up the reading list.

>> No.22226046

Why in the world are you here in this spoiler drenched thread if you haven't read it yet?

>> No.22226047

I mean, Naima is most likely taking a shit as she speaks, since she's a talented PP and can multitask easily. Pooping doesn't affect one's ability to think, so she can look (it's an avatar) normal in the chat room while saying one line (she's just thinking it and sending the brain signals as speech), even when she's in the middle of it and her real mouth is busy huffing and grunting.

And I bet Chloe is masturbating whenever she interacts with her friends in VR because she finds it lewd. But sometimes perverted thoughts enter her mind while she's about to cum and she accidentally says them in the VR instead of keeping them in her brain.

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>> No.22226049

It has the most story out of any AC game and it's Ghost in the Shell as fuck. I like it better than 4 honestly just because of the setting and story even if the sequel has way better controls. I highly recommend it. Make sure to complete all the paths.

I'm only like 1/4th through Ciconia, but I'm getting some Nemo simulation vibes.

>> No.22226057

Lolis don't do such things.

>> No.22226059

I think she's great.

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Saku also confirms that Bern and Lambda will be in ciconia. At the end, when everyone is leaving for Featherine's tea party, Bern & Lambda stop when they sense that "something is about to cry".
They wonder what kind of roles they will have this time, perhaps villains on the same side or a pair who hate each other.
Lambda says that any role is fine as long as they can play together again on the same game board. Bern, on the other hand, wonders if they will be the ones playing, or the ones being played with. Either way, they will find out soon.

>> No.22226063

Reminder that Ciconia is only semi-popular with the twitter crowd and that means no Naima lewds. Or any good-looking lewds at all.

Our only hope is that it gets an anime or something that gets Japanese hentai artists interested.

>> No.22226065

She's not a bad character at all, she just didn't really leave an impact on me, plus I find her very suspicous

>> No.22226074

Tell me more.

>> No.22226078

I can make do with >>22223915 for now.

>> No.22226079

Well, Lambda is almost definitely a player, and if the theory about Bern being split into three gauntlet knights is correct then she's being played with so it checks out.

>> No.22226082

Naima is unlewdable and unhumiliatable, because it's impossible to imagine her without the headgear and wearing it while naked would just look weird.

>> No.22226084

lambda= 30 delta=4 Vier = 4 Dreissig = 30,

>> No.22226085

Umineko wasn't popular at all with only EP1's release. It took to EP3's release for it to really start striding forth.

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The sight of the naked body of a loli is so corrupting and tempting, it should never be bared, even in solitude. For though the eyes of men may look away, the eyes of the Lord are always watching.

>> No.22226098

>loli armpit hides a snake-shaped weapon
This is lewd.

>> No.22226099

Is there any chance that zts will be brought back for the ost for later episodes? Maybe for the answer arcs (assuming we get them)?

>> No.22226101

Every Frenchman can probably fill the blanks.

Ryukishi went to Epitanime 2012? 2013? An anime French school convention. Even though it is a relatively small Parisian convention, it was still largely important at the time, with some connections to Japanese creators. An alumni IIRC, but I've forgotten the particular half a decade ago when I graduated.

He took some pictures of the street in the front of the school, and the school itself. Which were used by RGD. Half of the background of RGD are of Paris (probably from that particular trip), and half of those are of my school.

Was utterly bizarre when I read RGD two years later.

>> No.22226114

I really like how gauntlets are ridiculously bulkly and oversized. It really shows how much technology is packed in there.

It also makes the image of a character flying with it more impressive, because they are defying gravity and nothing makes it more clear than the fact that they can move around with a big fucking thing on their arms.

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one...i found one...

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The Witch of Colouring, Lady Remotaro.

>> No.22226128

You actually saw him filming?

>> No.22226145

Yes. Late at night. I was utterly parched and simply thought he wanted some memorabilia. Was too young and self conscious to say hello, but I had his autograph on my Beatrice portrait, so it was cool.

Not that interesting of a tale, honestly.

>> No.22226146

I also found yukkuri style art of keropoyo and i mean that type of yukkuri

>> No.22226150

I get where you're coming from but considering the kinds of things it does plus summoning guns makes any sort of "clarity" go out the window

>> No.22226151

No tits like kanon and erika
I know what she really is

>> No.22226152
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Natsuhi's character design is actually one of the earlier designs for Beatrice, but it was discarded and then later reused for Natsuhi. I wonder what the story might have been like with a more mysterious and refined Beato?

>> No.22226155

A shit!!!!!
Cmon beatrice must smug!!!!

>> No.22226160

It's not that out there. I think they take them out of a fourth dimensional pocket and keep them suspended in the air/direct them with the mind by controlling the 8MS that is literally everywhere.

>> No.22226164

I'll never understand her hair color. It's probably some sort of extension, but why? Why put a detail like that in the design if it's never brought up and is just random?

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please be nice to my wife, her potato brain cant handle bullying

>> No.22226166

Is wowowowowow meant to be like auauauauau?

>> No.22226167

Anon that's pretty cool

>> No.22226175

I took it as just her being high as a kite

>> No.22226176

She's just extremely high on drugs 100% of the time. I wonder how she functions when she's sober.

>> No.22226180

Oh she's definitely off her nut, I'm just all autistic about parallels between WTC entries.

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Phase 4 will end with half of the gauntlet knights surviving the apocalypse in a decimated world. And they won't be able to understand each other again because the internet has broken down, so no Kizuna for them.

Remember how many times the Tower of Babel was brought up by Takano in Higurashi? Something similar will happen here. I think their Kizuna will break down at some point and fuck up their coordination, making them unable to understand each other and fuck up their plans. It's exactly what happened in the story of the tower.

>> No.22226182

Her other personality seems sober enough and she (he?) is a no-nonsense badass

>> No.22226185

It's amazement, wow. In Japanese, she's saying wauwauwauwau.

>> No.22226189

>gauntlet knights
Read your bible anon

>> No.22226190

drugs that give you brain damage but in her case it is "limited"

>> No.22226191

And is "Meow" still "Meow" in Japanese, or is it actually "Nyan" as the name?

>> No.22226194

>it's just SMT

>> No.22226198

I always thought it'd be Miyao but dropping the y.

>> No.22226200

It's Myao (2 syllables) as opposed to Miyao (3 syllables)

>> No.22226201

Meow is ミャオ (Myao) in the JP version

>> No.22226202

The whole game is just Strange Journey minus the literal demons, so yeah.

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Chloe is resistant to stimulants, so they don't do shit for her. Naima can take harder, personality altering drugs and her brain damage is kept to a minimum because her brain can naturally take a lot of abuse.

It reminds me of the Midori from Higanbana whose soul was slowly eaten by a youkai and wouldn't technically die because he just took small bites. It's similar to how Naima is only getting slight brain damage as a result.

The Higanbana parallels are actually even stronger than the RGD or Higurashi parallels, which was really surpising. Chloe is straight up Yukari, bullies included, and Chloevil is Yukari after eating the thistle of vengeance. The whole situation with the "blues" and "greens" reminds me of how Higanbana described bullying as an utopia where everyone can be happy if someone is sacrificed and made into the bullied kid. Except in this case, it's one single kid that is bred to be a winner while everyone else is bred with shit genes and brainwashed with propaganda so they consent to join the AAI and become food for Chloe's ego.

It's fucked up.

>> No.22226207

Koshka cute.

>> No.22226216
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Lolis can't be badass, because the word "badass" itself implies that they've got asses and that fact reduces their badassery by half. I can't take a badass loli seriously when I know she poops and farts when she's alone in the toilet. It's pathetic.

>> No.22226218

i bet koshka looks real fucking ugly irl

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Koshka a best
Chloe and Gunhild are okay too, but she is the best

>> No.22226223

I don't care about irl. If she didn't fix her teeth in her VR model means she also doesn't care about irl. Koshka cute.

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What if the creatures you raise in Wanyadora are actually the Meowoofs Lambda mentioned in the EP8 Tea Party? Meow is "nya" in Japanese, while woof is "wan". They are the sounds cats and dogs make.

She said she was raising one and couldn't believe that Bern didn't know about them. She was secretly referring to how Jestress secretly plays Wanyadora in her spare time and is raising several dog/cat hybrids! She was already preparing for Ciconia at that time!

>> No.22226227

Nahhh. Phase 4 will end with a fight between the 8 million nanobots of shinto and the alien entity omnipotent God. It is so obvious when you think in 4d chess and Asiatic Jungian psychology like I myself. Believe me. I predicted Shkanontrice on Episode 1.

>> No.22226236

What if Naima is an expy of this?

>> No.22226246

ahhh nice.
We need Seshats asap

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>> No.22226252

Why does she carry the labcoat around if she doesn't wear it?

>> No.22226259

Dude. You blew my mind.

She's carrying a labcoat around. I never even saw it. I just saw her tits. She's carrying a labcoat around. What the fuck. What the even fuck. I don't, even.

Fuck. What does it mean.

>> No.22226266

Buttons make it seem like more of a normal coat than a labcoat.

>> No.22226270

I dunno if it's necessarily a lab coat, look at the cuff, it looks more like a normal jacket than a lab coat.

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new icon on erikantrice booru!!!

>> No.22226284

Continuing with the story without reading the profiles gives you are really different view of the world and makes all the characters mesh into one, becoming forgettable. Why would anyone NOT want to read them right away if they are interested in the story? Seriously. Is it low IQ?

>> No.22226289

She wants to show off her bazoongas and also carrying the lab coat gives her an excuse to keep her arm raised, showing off her lewd armpit stubble too.

>> No.22226296

>hair color
An attempt to hide grey hair? Henna?

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Miyao's haircut looks really strange in fanart, he looks like a completely different character in most fanart

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It means she's from Egypt and the reason she keeps mentioning "them" (as in aliens who will come harvest humanity if we reach too high of a technology level) is because she's part of a group of scientists researching these aliens in a secret lab inside the Giza pyramid.

Notice how the Cairo group's emblem shows a broken pyramid. The top part can be opened and maybe was hit with something in WW3. Also remember all the illuminati symbology in the game, including triangles and secred handshakes. It's all illuminati pyramid alien shit.

>> No.22226316

They can't replicate the fluffiness. It happened to other character designs when they got ported to Alcheshit PS2 and PS3 console versions.

>> No.22226331

So she wants to trigger WW4 to set humanity back a few centuries and postpone the harvesting of human souls by the archons, who will come when we have developed enough as a civilization? Jesus.

Why is Valentina so smug when Maricarmen tells her about how she's scared shitless of the prospect of a real war? She lies to her telling her not to worry and then thinks to herself about how stupid Marica is.

>> No.22226338

You said it yourself. Not that it would matter since most people in this generation are incapable of noticing subtext no matter how obvious you make it. It would just be a bunch of boring infodumps for them.

>> No.22226340

Valentina's a part of Tojirou's order, he sent a private message to someone who laughed like Valentina does.

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>> No.22226344

God I love this. I would've never expected a WTC game to go full tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. Even though Higurashi literally started as exactly that.

>> No.22226345

>a broken pyramid
All pyramids are like that, the tip is always made of a different material

>> No.22226351

>inb4 every single fucking scrapbook from Higurashi turns out to be true, including the one about Hanyuu arriving in a spaceship from the metaworld, the one about aliens replacing people with clones and the one about the creatures from the bottom of the sea surfacing in the swamp

>> No.22226356

That's not really boyish but androgynous, just look at space Jayden who's filled to the brim with muscles

>> No.22226360

Then why does Cairo need a "memorial" squad if it's not fucked up after the war?

>> No.22226361

Don't forget the Trinity. There's a reason why the Three Kings are Three. It's all in the Revelation.

>> No.22226362

The three kings are the Whites thus they ain't wrong

>> No.22226368

where do the zombies come in

>> No.22226373

Why, though? Because the tip is a secret entry into a vertical staircase running through the middle of the pyramid, leading to a secret basement full of alien technology that absorbs the energy of the universe from the tip of the perfecly triangular pyramid?

>> No.22226379

Chloe foreshadowed that

>> No.22226382

Because the tip's the part that can be seen from miles around ya git

>> No.22226390

We already saw a dude hanging himself and being unable to die in Ciconia. He zombified himself.

I think Vier "translated" some crazy technology and managed to send all this information to her Higurashi self from a completely different universe. This is how Takano got all the ideas for the scrapbooks. It was all real knowledge from the gods.

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Who cares if it was fucked up or not in the war?
Most of the world was
You can't build a tinfoil theory about secret alien technology just because the team has memorial near it, the picture of the """broken""" pyramid doesn't mean anything

>> No.22226400

Pure translators connecting from the vast knowledge contained in the Beyond betwixt reality.

Retarded Three Kings sycophant.

>> No.22226401

Who hung themselves again?

>> No.22226410

Isn't it normal for people with Ret's skin color to not have chimpanzee hand's?
I think you have to be a bit darker and less chocolate-toned to have chimpanzee hands.

>> No.22226412

Because he's a program inserted into his selcom, not a real part of Miyao's brain.

>> No.22226414

During the lab tour, one guy was apparently translating a wisdom that had something to do with immortality, and after being done with it he wanted to end it all, but couldn't cause he became immortal.

>> No.22226428

Hm that must've skipped my mind, I only remember the guy who caused the earthquakes

>> No.22226430

How do I unlock the last data fragment?

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fuck off rena

>> No.22226432

It's also probably connected to both the faithfuls that can't die in the book of Revelation, and the ark containing the one thousand years old imprisoned Satan.

Now just need to connect the dots.

>> No.22226433

The dude that was researching immortality. He used incomplete immortality 8MS on his own body to test it, and it caused all sorts of suicide-inducing pains. But he was unable to die even after hanging himself.

>> No.22226436

>and the one about the creatures from the bottom of the sea surfacing in the swamp
this actually happens in Revelations though

>> No.22226437

My prediction is that the okonogi shitty shoop TIPS is actually super important foreshadowing, and somebody is messing with some other characters selcom by replacing images

>> No.22226438

You need to reread the VN three times. Protip: you can use ctrl to go forward. Good luck anon.

>> No.22226439

Show me a real life example. Link some ebony porn if necessary.

>> No.22226450

It's during the second lab scene when we see the doctor guy for the second time and his head is now all flat.

>> No.22226452

Just read the other 15.
You're a mean one, Mr. Anon.

>> No.22226459

I'm really drawing a blank here and I feel fucking stupid jesus christ

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How do I unlock the lewd 17th fragment?

>> No.22226466

What if Koshka literally gets a new body and becomes the protagonist of the answer arcs

>> No.22226477

It's right before the spriteless doctor is taken to the door to 1000 years into the future by Takano. Right before that part, he awakens buried in a pile of books that he can't stop reading because they all solve countless mysteries of the universe, and Takano suggests that he visit the guy researching immortality because he seems interested in books about it.

>> No.22226479

Then Ciconia easily becomes the best When They Cry series so far, and I'm completely sincere about that. I want my daughter to succeed.

>> No.22226483

She better
I'm scared for her because of evil-Miyao's prophecy

>> No.22226484

The timeline is vague due to no dates or ages given. If we assume that Toujirou seeing Maya and Gunhild checking the record happen at around the same time, then there's a contradiction. If Maya is old enough to be a secondary secretary, she's way too old to be a knight.

>> No.22226501

I think I remember now, thank you anon
I really hate how there's no dates other than concluding it's probably in the 22nd or 23rd century

>> No.22226503

Ishak doesn't seem too young, but that might just be me.
Either way, I'm pretty sure Maya got mentioned in those two separate events to confuse people

>> No.22226506

Remember how Lambda kept talking about how her power of certainty has been revered by kings throughout history?

Yeah... She's Jestress and she's been summoned by the kings. She granted them certainty and that's why everything Evil Miyao said is fated to take place.

>> No.22226509

What if Koshka's new body actually shows the tits she grew in Umineko?

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Yeah. I just can't see how a highly corrupt official would take a 14 years old for concubine.

>> No.22226535

Also, in all seriousness, remember that Maya is older than Gunhild. It's canon. Gunhild says so.

Assuming that Gunhild is, what, 16 years old? Maya is at least 16. You better bet the Harvey Weinstein of the world would tap that in a hurry.

>> No.22226545

It's fine to be that age for a secondary secretary, but it's impossible to be a knight. Gunhild was the absolute latest at 12.

It's also a problem because we don't really know the working situation in this world. Remember that secondary secretaries are still considered salaried employees on the books. You can't just hire a little girl to go work in the military.

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>get sent back to the past to kill a murder program that will cause the end of humanity
>have to endure a month of him pretending to have a female split personality while he dates his best friend

>> No.22226556

Didn't Andry become one at 13?
Pretty sure it mentions he's one of the latest-blooming knights on his character page

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>> No.22226564

I'm pretty sure Maya is older than Gunhild. I'll need to reread the conversation with the monster maid, but I'm 80% sure that's what she says.

>> No.22226565

Do remember that the "process" she was doing was the last resort of the last resort with an overwhelming (actually universal) lethality rate. They probably take anyone.

>> No.22226570

the stretched twig of peace is at melting point

>> No.22226585

Koshka is Miyao

>> No.22226595

Tbqh I didnt appreciate koshka too much until her wanyadora tip

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>a murder program that will cause the end of humanity
*Jesus reborn from the Holy Mother that will make the Rapture possible.

Read the book of Revelation. Killing Jesus is bad. Even if God wants to rip your spin off and send you into a virtual paradise, killing Jesus is a sin.

>> No.22226598

The Maya scene with the lumps was pretty hot desu.

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Are you sure about that? Age doesn't seem to be an issue in and of itself. You just need to have the right brain.

Ishak is also old as fuck for a knight and he's doing fine, even if he's not the best. They are probably born with DID and have naturally high P3 levels. Or they could be multitasking geniuses like Jayden.

Being old is only bad if your brain is relatively normal, because at that point it doesn't have enough plasticity for PP training to influence its development. It's stuck that way and makes it hard to even use a mental tablet without concentrating hard.

So theoretically someone with the right brain, who is capable of multitasking at a high level, including all gauntlet knights in the story, shouldn't have problems using them even 20 or 40 years into the future. Age doesn't matter as long as you don't develop alzheimer's or some shit.

If someone is not that young but their brain is used to multitasking and shaped correctly, PP training might not be that effective for them but will still make a difference. It's enough for them to be good gauntlet knights.

Also, it's mentioned that some of them are mostly there for their support skills, like in Rethabile and Lingji's kette where they are the main unit and the others are only there because they coordinate well with them, even if their P3 levels are average.

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I got really, really sad for her once I realized what was happening here.

>> No.22226605

Someone post smug Miyao in Meow's outfit

>> No.22226615

i didnt appreciate anyone until the tips

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Not even Jayden?

>> No.22226624

You're being blinded by the reader's perspective. In reality, knight selection is brutally strict in regards to age and natural talent, but the average citizen isn't privy to that kind of information. They take in tons of hopefuls that have no chance of actually passing to either transfer them to human experimentation labs or to use as failures to prop up the gifted.

>> No.22226627

We know that Maya wasn't well-suited to being a knight because she wasn't picked up by the AOU tests at birth. Maybe she could've worked really hard like Gunhild, but then she wouldn't be suited to the program where they kill you.

What was it exactly? I don't speak Russian.

>> No.22226641

>There's no way you said it with your mouth, <help>
><Don't... touch, careful>
><I'm sorry, sorry, sorsorsor>
><Eighteen, Nineteen, twtwtwtwen>
The biggest mystery is why Kizuna didn't translate that.

>> No.22226642

>What was it exactly? I don't speak Russian.
pomogite = help me
ne trogayte = don't touch
ostorozhno = be careful
izvinite = I'm sorry
vosemnadtsat = eighteen
devyatnadtsat = nineteen
dvad = twen
then she just repeats "nononononononononononononononono"
She was trying to distract herself from the torturous brain testing with VR chatting

>> No.22226649

She probably just ran out of processing power due to pain. I doubt there's some deep meaning behind it

>> No.22226653

I see, thanks for telling me. I wonder if there will be more multilingual stuff in the future.

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>> No.22226659

Marica's right there.

>> No.22226661

You need to read them in a certain order.

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Yes, I'm here. And don't call me Marica.

>> No.22226680

The most brainlet thing normies do when the read VNs is mentally considering them "a game" and reading super fast without even paying attention to what they are reading.

They somehow don't realize that this isn't fucking "videogame text" and it's more like a book because it's all you do. God, just kill humanity.

>> No.22226690

Jesus, so this is what Takano did to Rika's mom and the murderer of Ooishi's friend?

>> No.22226692

like the higu true ending

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>> No.22226703

I've noticed this too, it's retarded. Imagine reading a kinetic VN in "skimming the dialog to get back to the gameplay" mode. Fuck normalfags.

>> No.22226716

Jayden is a true Florida man

>> No.22226720

Gunhild is into some kinky shit for certain.

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Made them count to hundred in Russian?

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Just toward the end of first episode when I grew attached to Lilja and Koshka they are basically nearly confirmed dead, now I am of sads.

>> No.22226748

the "most delicious way to eat a snackbar"-tip would have been a pretty good character introduction segment

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Oh shi-

>> No.22226760

Don't worry, they'll get better when VR resets.

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>This work does not approve of any specific ideology, nor does it represent the ideology of its creators.
I think too many people are taking Ciconia's content as a statement on modern social issues. Sure, Ryukishi has always been pretty woke, so it's easy to assume he's just taken that a step further. But in this case, I think he's simply trying to show how those issues could develop in the future. It's all just part of the setting, showing how society could change in the future.

>> No.22226774

That's fucking bern in the middle

>> No.22226776

>all similarities to the entirety of existence are entirely coincidental
galaxybrain epistemological claim right there

>> No.22226777

thats android 17 on the left

>> No.22226780

>I think too many people are taking Ciconia's content as a statement on modern social issues.
Some people are taking it as a commentary on American politics, which is laughable. How self-centered can they be? America isn't the whole world.

>> No.22226782

this. it tells you how fucked up chloe is.

>> No.22226784

The power of asset reuse

>> No.22226789

That's Kaji from Evangelion on the right. Notice the small ponytail

>> No.22226791

>a fucking furry
truly beyond any chance of redeption

>> No.22226799

I haven't read that one yet. Are you saying that she goes full Kameda-kun and eats sweets while imagining they are helpless lolis he's dismembering alive?

>> No.22226804

where was it said she's a furry? I thought she was just secretly goth and a pervert like most canadians

>> No.22226807

>that scene where you find out what happened to Maya
damn i can't believe R07 did that, the game really feels darker than any of the other WTC games

>> No.22226810

Chloe spends all of her free time making and jilling off to high-quality VR porn, almost always including donkey punches.

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you all have no right kink shaming her

>> No.22226831

Takano hinted that something fucked up like this would happen to Satoko if she got sent to Tokyo as a research specimen, that's why she shot her in the head.

>> No.22226834

It's more a commentary on western politics, as SJW thoughts have thoroughly infested both the U.S, Canada, and Europe. Japan, China and co. know all about that. It's more or less what's killing western civilization right now, and they know it perfectly, just talk to some of their citizens.

Now Ciconia is far too bizarre, weird, and self-contradictory to be a statement on western politics, that I agree. It's not self-consistent, both pros and cons are actively pushed by the narrative, characters agree on wildly bizarre and incoherent positions on social justice. It is either the most incompetent pro-SJW work ever made, or not pro-SJW at all. Or an exploration of both sides.

>> No.22226835

How would Naima do in the school from Higanbana? Would she get bullied and humiliated for being

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>> No.22226844

>and they know it perfectly, just talk to some of their citizens
Are they really aware of how fucking bad it is, though? I don't think they realize the extent of the corruption. You can't even meet new people anymore without 70% of them being SJWs or dumb normies supporting SJWs for virtue points.

>> No.22226851

I bet some Twitter SJW got triggered when Lilja used the word "loli" in the bathhouse scene and uninstalled the game, lmao.

>> No.22226855

that's not furry, that's just twlight shit where the self insert maiden is seduced by a vampire or werewolf or a fishman or something

>> No.22226857

For being bald.

>> No.22226864

As far as I know, there are several furry levels:

>literal animal
Your mom's dog.

>talking animal with a human personality
The hamsters in Hamtaro. I do want to fuck those. Yeah, they are literal hamsters and their cuteness is purely a non-sexual "animal cuteness". The kind of cuteness your cat has. But once you add a human personality and human speech, that cuteness turns into human cuteness, the kind of cuteness that can make a literal talking hamster sexually appealing.

>CREEPY anthropomorphic animal
Your typical OC character featured in countless furry porn drawings. You know, the typical hairy wolf with a humanoid body shape but a literal wolf face and claws and shit. It's by far the most popular and the one that people think about when they hear "furry", but I find it unappealing and is the only type I wouldn't fuck.

>cute anthropomorphic animal
The mimigas from Cave Story. They are cute talking animals with human personalities too, but the difference is that they have a humanoid figure and live in some sort of mimiga society that is similar to that of humans. But they still eat only flowers and stuff because they are mimigas.

>half-human furries
Most of the characters in Sonic the Hedgehog. The exact percentage of humanity vs animal is debatable, but they clearly look half-human, especially the hedgehogs. Amy Rose belongs to this group. She has obvious animal features on her face and body, but she's not animal enough to belong to the previous group. These types also tend to act like normal humans and be animals in name and appearance only. You won't see Amy eating bugs because hedgehogs do that. That's one of the things the "cute anthropomorphic animals" would do. Not the half-humans.


>> No.22226873

>Borderline furry
Your typical anime girl with legit cat or bunny ears and a real tail coming out of her spine. She may act a bit like an animal sometimes, without really losing her human intelligence at any point. They look basically human and only have these weird personality quirks and animal appendages. The difference from the previous group is that their animal features are very few and quite superfluous. They don't have any animal features on their faces, limbs or bodies, only things like fangs, tails or ears.

>regular ass humans in cosplay
Normal human weebs wearing cat ears or bunny girl outfits and shit. Cute but not furry.

>normal humans
Normal people.

There is this weird cognitive dissonance when it comes to furry characters that makes you NOT imagine their asses, limbs or faces being hairy. Instead, you imagine them having bald skin of a certain color, even though you are fully aware of the fact that it's supposed to be fur.

Legit furries do imagine their bodies being furry and they enjoy the idea of fucking a humanoid animal, precisely because of their animal fur. That's a legit disgusting furry.

So I'm pretty sure 410 qualifies as an anime girl with REAL animal appendages and weird ass animal quirks. She's not just a weeb in cosplay. Does she even have real ears?

>> No.22226879

you need to go back

>> No.22226880

W-When does this happen? Did Lilja and Koshka surprise her in the shower and take pictures as revenge for when she scolded them for bothering Okonogi? Is she getting her wet hairy pussy exposed for everyone to see?

>> No.22226881

Finish the VN.

>> No.22226886

its shaved for aerodynamic purposes

>> No.22226887

She will endure any humiliation because she secretly enjoys being shamed and punished.

>> No.22226891

god i hope not

>> No.22226896

She gets paraded naked through the entire facility so everyone can see how pathetic her awkward teenage body is.She was in a state of shock the whole time because she never imagined they would go this far, so the shame didn't even register in her brain until later that night.

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Post H-manga that could pass for WTC doujins.

Loli Sayo with a dickpussy gets bullied and humiliated by classmates in front of a cucked Batora:


Rosa sells Maria's body to fat old men and they rape her smelly loli ass in front of Sakutaro:


Chloe is forced to expose her awkward big tits and hairy pussy in front of the entire school. The sequel is even more pathetic:



Bern and Lambda incarnate as two psychopathic 12 year olds and humiliate a fat dude (still incomplete):


Bern and Lambda's loli incarnations keep acting like cunts until they get kidnapped, raped, tortured and murdered by hobos for burning their dog alive:


Bern and Lambda come back as two different lolis and bury a cat alive. They try to blackmail an old dude for the kicks and end up meeting an even worse fate than before:


Some bully bitch from Higanbana gets what she deserves, which involves humiliation, torture, scat and being turned into a diaper-wearing quadruple-amputee before being sold into slavery:



>> No.22226907

>Chloe doujins already
Hot damn.

>> No.22226915

He fell for the isekai meme. He sure did draw a shitty ticket though. Instead of going to a world tallier made for dick sucking he goes into one that's already dead and his chances of survival are slim.

>> No.22226918

Ciconia girls are all so cute, but every single one of them has countless microscopic nanomachines in her ass.

>> No.22226925

>Ryuukishi literally using the word humiliation in this context
It was true all along, huh? He really is humilianon.

>> No.22226926

kill yourself

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post erikantrice hentai!!!

>> No.22226943

There are definitely 8MS that are designed to make sex more enjoyable.

>> No.22226947

Those Chloe ones would qualify as cringe porn. I want to see her humiliated but at the same time can't help but feel second hand embarrassment because she's in such an awkward situation.

>> No.22226951

Cute! CUTE!

>> No.22226959

This will be SUPER important. We don't know what any of the characters are actually doing. Jojo Etika could be happily talking to Miyao in the virtual room while murdering Jayden IRL.

Parallel processing is some crazy shit. Miyao was having the mental breakdown of his life arguing with evil Miyao the first time but nobody in the VR could tell because his thoughts were dissociated from one another and he looked perfectly calm on that side.

>> No.22226963

whole story story is from fetus miyao's pov

>> No.22226968

>self-lubricating assholes are now reality
praise science

>> No.22226985

>nobody in the VR could tell because his thoughts were dissociated from one another
The Christmas party was half-surreal half-horrifying.

>> No.22227016

It's just a coincidence anon, didn't you read the disclaimer?

>> No.22227017

people calling characters who show more than being one sided different personalities pisses me off more than it should

>> No.22227064

blame ryukishi for throwing the CPP concept out there

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>> No.22227075

Showing more than one side is fine. I don't buy "Chloevil" being an independent personality and not Chloe just being in a sadistic reverie. But sometimes they behave completely differently, I'll continue to insist that Mariacarna and Marica are separate just from how different they behave.

>> No.22227080

So dark that Ryuukishi even gives her two contradictory bad ends.

>> No.22227082

cpp shit is a red herring and only exist within VR = multiple users logging with same "ID" and avatar data

>> No.22227085

there's 2 Maya

>> No.22227088

There are actually no different personalities everyone is just emotionally unstable from the drugs

>> No.22227092

Explain Naima's drug triggered identities (one of which is expressly seen in the real world when they start boasting about fighting for Naima's sake) and Mariana's autism.
Also Meow was first met in the real world, unless Miyao suddenly gained the acting skills sufficient to fool Jayden, Meow has to be a real case.

>> No.22227100

Why would they translate the name, Meow just sounds bad.

>> No.22227113

Yeah, and it's especially confusing because of Lilja saying meow at the end of every single sentence.
It's like she's calling Meow instead of it just being a quirk

>> No.22227114

The factory was seen through Meow's perspective. Her "brother" is Miyao. In this "A3W" VR world they were merged into one body (Meow's, which is also female btw). This level of reasoning is possible for Anonymous.

>> No.22227131

It's literally the kana transliteration of the English onomatopoeia "meow", and there's no significant difference in pronunciation

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the factory scene was seen through the mothers perspective. unless you think meow is the mom.

>> No.22227169

so what are the X Y Z rules this time
in higu its
X : someone in the group becomes paranoic and kills people, more often K1 or Mion
Y: Tomitake and Takano die after the festical
Z: The sonozaki family is blamed

in Umineko
X: you cant win, theres no good end like in Higurashi, everyone will always die one way or another
Y: source of Beatrice magic= the witch roulette, near infinite combination of culprits / its not always the same cuprits unlike higurashi again
Z: the real "truth of what happened in rokkenjima will never be known (ie in the real world not meta there will never be a definite proof of who killed who and how = source of ange magic, she can always create a world where her family is innocent )

so in cionia my guess is :
X: 4 traitors or always, not 1 more or less
Y: one of 34's doctor has a succesful invention that near destroys the world (always a different one)
Z: some meta shit, like the pieces will never become the player/be something else than pieces

>> No.22227174

> I don't buy "Chloevil" being an independent personality and not Chloe just being in a sadistic reverie.
why did she completely forget what she was doing after she woke up?

>> No.22227177

>tfw i read books naturally fast and this thread is giving me anxiety over whether or not i'm a brainlet speedreader

>> No.22227184

It's only confusing for the speed-o-reader brainlets because they might misunderstand who is saying what. It's easier in Japanese because you can easily see the difference between Kanji and katakana in the name box.

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I dont know haha

>> No.22227193

That was just a usual "what the heck am I doing?" daze, not a "oh my god I literally don't remember the last three minutes" panic.

>> No.22227196

But she literally says "I recall I was doing something fun", she genuinely doesn't know what she was doing a second ago

>> No.22227201

She had a psychotic breakdown and her memories were confused.

>> No.22227205

She's talking about killing the three kings, right? Is she being honest here tho? She might just want to use Miyao for her own goals

>> No.22227210

The problem is when you just absorb information without even thinking about it for a second because you are immediately reading the next line. No wonder people like that find the loredumps boring.

>> No.22227212

the three kings dont want the factory hell tho, they want to stop it by "resetting" humanity every few hundred years so their civilisation doesnt reach the peak = factory hell

>> No.22227224

blue miyao tells miyao to kill the three kings if he wants to prevent ww4. not sure if that's his main objective though. his main goal still seems to make miyao kill himself.
he kinda makes it sound like both are.

>> No.22227226

it seriously pisses me off more than it should

>> No.22227227

Wait, where do the aliens come in? Sheshat said that "they"' were waiting for humanity to reach a peak/dead end of advancement and they would harvest all the souls at that point.

>> No.22227234

sheshart alien are like takano diaries

>> No.22227239

Why would she lie to her faceless black man bodyguard and feed him a story about aliens?

>> No.22227247

If she was truly CPP she wouldn't recall it at all. It's just a joke.

>> No.22227248

Based Sakunoshing bringing in the goods.

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haha I don't know

>> No.22227251

one thing i'm kind of concerned about (and i trust r07 not to do this to some extent) is i really don't want anything about the meta world, lambda or bern, to have anything to do with ciconia. the cool part about the WTC series was how they all are completely different from each other, and i feel like including the meta world as part of the plot would make it seem like a retread of umineko

>> No.22227255

ciconia is lambda's equivalent of higurashi

>> No.22227263

>If she was truly CPP she wouldn't recall it at all.
what? why? what would she do if she was CPP according to you then?

>> No.22227264

But Miyao and Meow are aware of what the other is doing (unless conveniently they aren't)

>> No.22227265

Chloe is a bastard only made worse by empowerment.

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>i really don't want anything about the meta world
too bad
Miyao and Evil Miyao literally talk in the meta dimension and can see the piece versions of themselves

>> No.22227275

holy shit you can't read can you ? they're talking about CPP stuff and VR, how a cpp can do one thing in their mind and something different in VR
you know, the whole thing that the finale is based on ?

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If she was truly CPP she WOULD recall it unless Chloevil hid the memory from her. If the memory was shared, it would still feel weird, though, like she's remembering someone else's actions. I don't think a CPP would have sudden switches and breaks of consciousness, not even know their alter at all (they are naturally capable of co-consciousness without much effort) or be in such bad terms with them that they do this fucking shit without asking her first.

So I don't think she's one. She's just pretty insane from all the abuse and had a vengeful side to her.

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If you don't put the book down after reading enough pages to go for a walk or a pause to properly digest and think about you've read then I don't know what to tell you man.
There's no reason to go fast, read at your own pace and enjoy the reading.

>> No.22227287

No, they are talking about the meta dimension and hiding it as CPP stuff and VR
This explains why the CG and sound effect are called meta, and it also explains why these scenes are not referenced outside of them

>> No.22227291

I said it sounds bad, not that it sounds confusing.

>> No.22227294

VR and CPP stuff IS the meta
in Umineko the meta is 12 years ago with ange pov and people discussing the forgeries

>> No.22227298

I won't blame you for not knowing how this stuff works IRL, but it's not that complicated. A personality can decide to "sleep" and leave the other alone for a while. The story is pretty accurate in that regard, it's not like Ryuukishi is making shit up or relying on coincidence.

That's why Miyao wasn't there when Jayden met Meow. He wasn't interested in girl shit and just went away until she called him again or something specific triggered his consciousness.

>> No.22227303

It depends on how much I'm enjoying it, I suppose. If it's something like Ciconia or Umineko, I'll probably reflect on the experience by discussing it with friends. But if I have to read it because of college, I doubt I'll put much thought into it.

>> No.22227304

But anon, Higurashi literally used meta memories for Rika and some others. Even Umineko didn't go that far.

>> No.22227307

meant for

>> No.22227308

Miyao/Meow explains that he has a choice about what the other personality sees. It's near the start when Jayden meets Meow. Meow says that it's like they can close the door between them whenever they want.

>> No.22227309

Do you even know what the actual XYZ rules are, to write something this retarded?

>> No.22227311

Based stopped thinking man

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Does anyone have a higher quality version of this?

>> No.22227315

you're the 80 readers

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>> No.22227320

I take it you've never suffered from derealization/depersonalization, let alone stronger dissociative states.

It's not meta, dude. At least not what they mention in the text. They are not literally seeing themselves like someone looking at a TV screen, but they are seeing through Miyao's eyes as if they were inside someone else's body.

>> No.22227324

lmao, r07 must have really hated his fanbase during umineko

>> No.22227330

holy shit most people on this thread are brain dead and cant read whats beyond the lines
please think, thats what all of Umineko is about

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Featherine isn't wrong though. Most people are retards.

>> No.22227336

>I won't blame you for not knowing how this stuff works IRL
Didn't they make a point when describing to Jayden how this isn't what people have irl and that it's an insult to people like Miyao to believe otherwise? Using real world conventions here is pretty pointless to bring into this scifi shit.

>> No.22227339

We're talking about him calling a huge portion of the fanbase goats and said portion forcing him to release Confession because they were idiots - yeah he definitely was fed up with some folks lol

nice digits of truth

>> No.22227340

you're retarded. please stop posting.

>> No.22227342

featherine is yasu

>> No.22227344

It's not "convenient", one personality can literally say "you don't get body rights for awhile, enjoy the darkness of my subconscious".
Now clearly it doesn't work like this for every single person (Mariana is trapped in a hell where her selves are wrestling for control and her body has to stand and stare until one of them achieves temporary victory) but for the most part it should be all or nothing, the personalities are communicating or they are not.

>> No.22227353

But I want to be a goat so I can protect my nee-chan and get summoned by a cute witch to get killed...

>> No.22227360

>I'll probably reflect on the experience
Of course. What I mean is that part of the experience will be missing from your memory because you didn't give yourself even two seconds to digest what you just read and instead kept reading and reading, only stopping for a moment whenever something "crazy" popped up. That's not really reading, just skimming past the subtle shit that was intended to make you wonder, come to certain conclusions or have ideas. If you don't digest each line for a second and just speedread, you might not be missing any of the text but you are missing the thoughts and ideas that the text was supposed to trigger in your brain. You didn't really proccess what you read.

Same with any book, really.

>> No.22227364

VR and CPP stuff is something normal in the setting
Miyao and Evil Miyao and their scenes are only referenced and relevant after a sound effect called "meta" plays a CG called "meta" is displayed
During these scenes Evil Miyao gives Miyao future knowledge that Miyao never thinks about
Evil Miyao also offers Miyao an offer to stop all the deaths in exchange for him willing himself to stop existing(which sounds similar to Beato wanting Battler to surrender), and Miyao's personality is kind enough that it would make sense for him to go along with it after shit starts going down, and Miyao never even thinks about if it was an offer worth taking
To top it off, the narration by Miyao talks about being able to see another version of him acting independently while he talks to Evil Miyao

If this isn't a literal meta dimension then I don't know what it is

>> No.22227370

Okay, TIL - despite spending some time in a mental hospital I never actually met someone with that disorder
Though I meant it's convenient in a narrative sense, I guess it's realistic that way but opens a whole can of worms for the plot

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>> No.22227373

Miyao gives the brain stem conversion to the others as a hypothetical during the Christmas party. He clearly remembers the conversations he has with Blue Miyao. The "meta" just refers to him having a conversation with another facet of his own mind while concurrently speaking with his friends. You're reading way too much into it.

>> No.22227376

I think I'm doing fine then.

>> No.22227380

or maybe ryushiki is a good writer and uses the fact that evil miyao can "see" another version of him is just a subtle way to explain that CPP can be independent from the main body when its in VR
you know, show dont tell ?

>> No.22227387

Reminder that CCP is not DID.

>> No.22227391

That's fair, but how do you explain Miyao being confused when it first happens, whereas Battler is already used to the meta world by the time we see him interacting in it?
Miyao's dialogue has a lot of implications that he has no idea what's actually going on. But also, the fact that he never acts on the knowledge Alt-Miyao gives him is indeed suspicious, as is the CG names.

>> No.22227396

>Shkanon gun duels are going on in Mariana's head 24/7
The power of autism

>> No.22227400

We got 2 Lambdas and at least 3 Rikas. Yet, they are all just pieces. Sad times in Ciconia desu.

>> No.22227403

Oh crap, not only that, but there's also the fact that Keropoyo shows up too.

>> No.22227405

While I agree that he doesn't seem like he's used to it, he clearly retains no knowledge of any meta segment.
It's like he's "waking up" in the meta after being asleep the whole time between meta rips.

>> No.22227417

Am I wrong? If so, why? I'm restating things that have been said in the game. If I'm wrong, please show me something in the game that contradicts what I said.

>> No.22227422

every single character is either a lambda or a rika piece
its an all out war, they're all laying down every single piece they have

>> No.22227426

There is literally nothing to indicate this. Keropoyo and his discussion at the Christmas party arguably contradict it

>> No.22227438

bruh thats a good one

>> No.22227439

>be me
>about to eat lunch
>"wait up, let's drink first"
>"no, sit properly first"
>"shut the fuck up y'all, i'll eat first"
>sabre duel battle royale commences while everyone stares at me as I'm paralyzed with my mouth open and the food halfway into my mouth
>drink first wins
>put's down food
>picks up the drink
>"Alright, fuck you, we reallly should eat first"
>autism reccomences
Life truly is hell

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>Didn't they make a point when describing to Jayden how this isn't what people have irl and that it's an insult to people like Miyao to believe otherwise?
No? They said that he shouldn't treat Miyao like he just has different "moods". They really are two separate people in their head and it's rude to act like they are a single individual.

>Using real world conventions here is pretty pointless to bring into this scifi shit.
Sure, most of the technology is scifi shit, but the dissociative identity disorder is completely real and very accurate to how it work in real life. It's not something Ryuukishi came up with. Other stories tend to exaggerate it based on stereotypes and shit, but this is one of the few where it's been portrayed accurately.

Now, the term CPP is fictional and made up by Ryuukishi. It refers to Congenital Parallel Processors (meaning that they were naturally born with DID and therefore their multitasking ability, also called parallel processing, is really damn good). That all it means. It's not a real term.

But CPP just describes someone who was "born" to be a parallel processor because they literally have two separate consciousnesses and can coexist at the same time if they want to. The term is made up for the purposes of the fictional military in Ciconia, who are searching for people capable of perfect multitasking, but DID itself is a real thing.

They characters are just using CPP to refer to DID itself because they don't want to be rude to people like Miyao and call it a "disorder". The terms are not equivalent, since the first refers to their natural ability to multitask while the second refers to the disorder itself.

I hope I made it clear. I believe this shit will be really important to understand if you want to solve all the mysteries presented here.

>> No.22227442

There's a few things I've been thinking of too.
There's Keropoyo's involvement, and...
In Umineko, the metaworld served a clear purpose - for discussion of the gameboard, and for the witches and detectives to challenge each other to see if they can solve the mystery, or 'prove' that magic is real.
However, this 'metaworld' doesn't seem to hold any particular meaning, other than being a space where Miyao and Evil Miyao talk. There's no greater discussion over the point of the gameboard, and Evil Miyao isn't really trying to challenge Miyao here, just trying to kill him outright (because apparently, Evil Miyao can't do so instantly). There's no equivalent to the blue or red truth (granted, these in Umineko weren't introduced until later), there's no point for Miyao being there other than being teased by Evil Miyao endlessly until he gives up and is erased. There is nothing for either of them to prove.

>> No.22227452

Well, we're still in phase 1, we didn't really have an understanding of the game board in ep 1 of Umineko.

>> No.22227453

I don't think they're even playing at this point anon.

>> No.22227457

It's funny that even including Ciconia, I've yet to see a piece of fiction where a character with DID gains a new alter. It happens all the time IRL.
But Ciconia is still just in Phase 1, so it might happen later.

>> No.22227460

so you mean that chloe would still know about evilchloe appearing even if evilchloe "closes the door" on her? is that what this is about?
but in story we have no example of this. none, except for evilchloe. so based on the story, what makes you assume it works in the way you think?

>> No.22227462

>>22227457 (me)
Granted, Evil Miyao might count as a 'new' alter, but there's evidence to suggest he's some sort of foreign, autonomous entity of some sort rather than an alter.

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Honestly, this feels like Lambda's origin or a gameboard that happened before Higurashi, maybe it's not bern yet but just Featherine's pieces randomly scattered.

>> No.22227469

Fair enough. Iguess we'll just have to wait and see, since we have somewhat equal amounts of evidence for both sides of the argument.

>> No.22227473

What's Toujirou trying to do apart from just trying to fuck not-Takano?
What's Sesshat mission apart from being lusted after the whole cast?

>> No.22227480

What if trannies are CPPs? Just that their Meow side steps up until they get too screwed up and an hero. Just finished reading the first gay part people started to complain a lot and didn't look so gay like people said it was and kinda made me think in a future world where the population specially young people have this type of "disorders" that made people look mentally ill for not understanding. Reminds me like how everyone has ADHD now almost seems congenital.
Unless Miyao is faking it to trick chad straight Jayden into homosex

>> No.22227481

>Miyao gives the brain stem conversion to the others as a hypothetical during the Christmas party. He clearly remembers the conversations he has with Blue Miyao.
It's true the hypothetical part of an automated VR server is suspicious, but the conversation is very long, many characters talk and it's all started by a simple "I wish this party was reality"
Him bringing it up doesn't 100% confirm he remembers, it's possible he would have though something along the lines of "would you guys actually go through with leaving your body behind?" as the next part of the conversation

>That's fair, but how do you explain Miyao being confused when it first happens, whereas Battler is already used to the meta world by the time we see him interacting in it?
To be fair Battler's first meta scene happens right after he thanks the player for playing Umineko, and in the Ep 8 manga shows meta Battler start existing before episode 1, but he is amnesiac there and doesn't understand what is going on

>Keropoyo shows up
This is actually the biggest thing I can think that could prove the meta theory wrong, unless the excuse is that he somehow entered the meta by being in meta Miyao's brain or that he was created by a meta character(his Mistress, which is probably Seshat and I can see her being a meta character or a witch)
It's unlikely though, Keropoyo needs some serious exposition to fit in the meta and it seems unlikely Ryukishi would go that far

>> No.22227482

We don't know the full details yet. It seems like they're trying to save humanity, but they need the Three Kings' plan to come into fruition to achieve that.

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his goal is noble enough as is

>> No.22227489

Three Kings are trying to wipe off almost all of humanity to gain time.
Jestress is avin a giggle.
Toujirou I believe is trying to use the Three Kings to wipe off the people he wants to wipe.
Seshat is rejecting god.
We don't know shit about Takano, she just applauds comrade Mario, probably trying to kill god too.

>> No.22227492

People have already thought that but the way you put it made me laugh.

>> No.22227498

I giggled heartily. Thank you anon.

>> No.22227499

I doubt Miyao's biological sex is male.
I don't see why Meow would hide that from Jayden if it was true, she said she didn't say it because of him after all.

>> No.22227500

thats what Im confused too
everyone seems the be against the messenger of god
feels like an all out war against the messenger of god
toujirou is also making an insane amount of money for probably an ultimate plan post apocalypse

>> No.22227508

Is this one and Dreissig the same person?

>> No.22227509

The money he makes seems to just be a consequence of controlling the news.
The main purpose isn't making money, it's fake news and shit, but he uses money to control his Order of Wisteria.

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This stuff is generally true for congenital DID, when someone is born "plural" due to a brain defect instead of having a single personality like you and me.

Trauma-induced DID is much more disruptive and could be considered a different variety. The brain still ends up developing in an unusual way, but this is caused by the young mind creating alters to deal with early childhood trauma, which makes the brain develop like that. You are born with a normal brain and it develops "wrong" because it's become used to separating memories and thoughts in different alters. This permanently transforms a healthy young brain into a defective one, similar to congenitals, and it only gets more warped as it grows.

Basically, trauma-induced DID means using your young mind wrong (with maladaptive defense mechanisms like alters) and causing the physical brain itself to adjust to that "wrong use" as it grows.

>> No.22227515

Do you think she has an ESL faggot in her head shitting up the system with whatever Ciconia's version of Erikatrice is too?

>> No.22227516

I'm just going to try to explain more in depth, because I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say since all that happened was someone called me retarded.

If Chloevil was a CPP personality, then Chloe wouldn't have any knowledge of Chloevil's actions unless Chloevil chose to let her see them. Chloe herself wouldn't also be confused over who was the one taking those actions. She "feels like she was doing something fun." That proves that the personality speaking is the personality that was doing the action.

>> No.22227517

Where would you spend that money in the apocalypse?

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>> No.22227520

I mean, it seems to me like you have to jump through way more hoops to push this meta theory than the blatantly obvious solution provided by the in-game lore. Him bringing up the stem COULD just be a coincidence, but it's probably brought up as a result of the fears Blue Miyao has reinforced in him. There COULD be some wacky meta rules catching Miyao off-guard such that he doesn't understand he's in a game yet, but he's probably just having a typical CPP conversation and reacting to an unfamiliar stimulus in his psyche. Keropoyo's appearance in the conversations COULD be some giant metaphor, but it's probably just actually fucking there in his brain.

>> No.22227521

anime figurines and retro games
or solar warheads

>> No.22227522

I didn't initially notice that Bern was taking off a Lilja mask in that image at first, and thought it was a weird variation of "the weak must fear the strong".

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I'll guess she'll end up getting killed while having shkanon duels inside her head then.

>> No.22227538

you have it wrong
all of umineko is happening inside her head
just like higurashi is a tv show in umineko world

>> No.22227540

Memes aside they do state money is worthless when WW4 comes around.

>> No.22227548

the red herring is that the apocalypse isnt ww4 its the nanomachine shit

>> No.22227552

Daily reminder that Enentwintig Africacommonwealthrealm is a retarded surname.

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The Key probably lies in Miyao. Finding out about Miyao probably sovles the puzzle.

>> No.22227560

>Chloe herself wouldn't also be confused over who was the one taking those actions.
but she isn't
>She "feels like she was doing something fun.
she is referring to what she was doing BEFORE evilchloe took over. so you're just reading it wrong imo. or maybe i am.

>> No.22227567

Well it's more like these 2 compound on each other. I doubt they can produce shit without 8MS in factories, more less so when there's attacks and the environment is so fucked you can't even get materials. Therefore, money is worthless.

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anon what you think about this image?
i want make it the official image of my theory.

>> No.22227579

>Him bringing up the stem
He doesn't at all, the most suspicious thing he does is ask, hypothetically, if Jayden would go full VR world if the servers were automatically managed and had no problems
This isn't that suspicious by itself but the hypothetically part sure is, I can agree this much
Not enough to accept this as a confirmation of Miyao remembering

I don't think there is much problems with Miyao being confused during his first "meta" scene and being kind of lost, he could simply be confused at suddenly being in a different plane of existence, and it's not like we have reliable information on how people enter the meta in other WTCs

Keropoyo is an stretch though and I can agree that much

Overall there isn't enough evidence to support it, but I don't think it's safe to deny it either until we get some extra info on what is Evil Miyao's deal, who pretty much is the biggest mystery so far

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>despite spending some time in a mental hospital I never actually met someone with that disorder
Someone who is in a mental hospital to treat that disorder doesn't really have what Miyao has.

In real life, people who are born with DID don't necessarily have any traumas or troubles associated with it, so they are technically not "disordered". It depends on the brain, but it can often be a benign condition where the personalities work together during their daily life and create rules for when each one is allowed to become dominant, in case they want to and aren't satisfied with just observing and talking to each other.

Generally, more than two personalities active at the same time will strain the brain, causing headaches after a while, so they tend to spend time together in pairs.

>> No.22227596

I don't get it, does r07 think 3 euros are a lot or is it a social commentary or something?

>> No.22227600

Not sure if this is legit or not.

>> No.22227614

I remember when they talk about how gauntlet knights don't get paid that much, but people give you a lot of things for free.

>> No.22227617

well they get food & accomodation for free, & healthcare, they have to be properly maintained, theyre equipement

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>Three Kings contacted him
>He was already gaining their mentality without outside influence
>Toujirou created him since birth already with the idea in mind of making him a gauntlet knight
>His declared that she plans on using him (MurderProgram?)
>Someone put in a program to try and kick him out and prevent the future
>Future will make him and Jayden be in space with Jayden having a blue body

Alright, my bet is
Toujirou is using Miyao to find Takano, this is his primary objective for some reason.
Seshat is trying to prevent whathever Takano wants to do, as she's hunting the people that call the numbers thing "wisdom" and going against God as implied by the 16th fragment.
The Three Kings want to use Miyao because he's their program, so they're simply procceding with the original plan, the "murder_program.exe" was something however that Toujirou himself implemented working as subordinate/double-agent for them.
Takano is Miyao's mother and has a method to make use of the murder_program for her own means, hilariously she's on god's side or plans to use him for her own reasons.

"Evil Miyao" was implanted by either Jestress as a means of giving Miyao a choice or Seshat as an attempt to stop whathever Takano is trying to do.

Overall I believe Jestress to be a red herring.

>> No.22227628

>>His declared that she plans on using him (MurderProgram?)
I meant his mom, why the fuck did this not go through

>> No.22227633

The only unrealistic part of Ciconia in that regard, or should I say unlikely, is that Miyao looks like such an androgynous faggot. An appearance like that is rare in real life, and it's even rarer that someone like that also has congenital DID.

In real life, it's super rare for both conditions to happen to the same person, so people born with DID can suffer tremendously because they have to share fractions of their life with others, alters of the opposite gender can't really take over and be themselves because the body doesn't fit their behavior/tastes, people believe they are faking (there are plenty of fakers online, to be fair) and they can't really come out about it, even to their family members. So they end up being ridiculed if they reveal it or have to stay hidden, all pretending to act like the same person, without really making their own friends or living their own life.

>> No.22227639

ryushiki will die in a kyoto based hospital due to complications after a stroke 28973 minutes after the exact moment this post is uploaded making your post pointless

>> No.22227643

I imagine any situation where you're buying from an actual person could easily be negotiated to 50% off at the minimum by saying you're a knight.

>> No.22227646

>What is Jung theory
So in general Ciconia is about tulpas?

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I think you are right about it being the meta, but this evil Miyao cunt is not a personality of Miyao.

The most likely theory is that he's a META-MIYAO from another fragment possessing Miyao, like Rika did to herself. That's why he knows the future. Lambda made it so the future was guaranteed in every fragment.

>> No.22227673

You forget that the frequency of DID is far higher in the A3W world than it is right now. It's seen as a desirable trait in daily life and by the government alike, and kids frequently train to awaken it in their young age. Given that this is a story about gauntlet knights, any particular character being a CPP is perfectly reasonable. Him looking like a twink is just a little bonus thrown in for some controlled drama

>> No.22227682

Hemisphere separation does indeed result in split brains but this guy is really pretentious saying "this is how it always is, it's going on R I G H T N O W !". The hemispheres communicate deeply and thoughts are not separated by hemisphere in a healthy, whole brained individual, the brain consumes and interprets simultaneously in both halves. Dual consciousness only applies as a concept once you get split in two and that interself communication is lost.

>> No.22227704

>they don't want to be rude to people like Miyao and call it a "disorder"
What if Erika appears in phase 2 and calls out Miyao in his mental illness, forcing him to accept that he and Meow are the same human. And then they have a mental breakdown.

>> No.22227711

>The only unrealistic part of Ciconia in that regard, or should I say unlikely, is that Miyao looks like such an androgynous faggot. An appearance like that is rare in real life, and it's even rarer that someone like that also has congenital DID.
Have you not watched anime or manga for the past 20 years?

>> No.22227713

I wish Toujirou was celibate and never touched any of my waifus! He is ruining their purity!

>> No.22227721

>once you get split in two
So its still legit then? Who know if they have some genetic modification for artificial CPP and the whole thing. They have the no sleeping pills.

Not that anon but still doesn't mean Ciconia has to copy paste trap fetishism as well.

>> No.22227723

it's a joke but people are going to treat it as deep social commentary like how they did with the nuns saying yuri is pure

>> No.22227725

It's not even about traps, anime is full of pretty boys who can pass as girls once you put them in a maid uniform. It's literally a common trope in the whole japanese entertainment.

>> No.22227735

It's legit if you receive a bit of brain surgery, yeah. I don't think doctors are fond of complete corpus callosotomies nowadays though.

>> No.22227739

Heard those are not permitted in many countries I think.

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Nah, trannies are just a single person with a mental illness that makes them identify as the opposite sex, feeling like their body is "wrong". The insidious thing about trannies is that they'd probably refuse a future psychotropic treatment that erased their feelings of "dysphoria" in favor of the much more dangerous solution of transforming their body through surgery to fit the delusions of their mental illness.

Also, Ryuukishi hasn't written a tranny yet, despite what the SJWs might want to believe. Yasu wasn't born with dysphoria, he was born normal. What made him confused and fucked him up was losing his genitals as a baby, growing up as an underdeveloped genderless freak with no hormones and being raised as a girl, before having all the truth dumped her at the worst moment. She never developed did, but she played around with tulpas too much to sort out her feelings, turning the different sides and feelings in her head into different "characters" to sort them out. She never had DID and was alone in her head except for intrusive thoughts.

Meow/Miyao (I don't know which is the one that doesn't fit their unknown real sex) could arguably be considered to suffer from dysphoria. But that's just a normal consequence of having personalities of different genders, one of them will have to deal with a body they don't really feel comfortable in. And even so, they seem to be pretty happy because they are so androgynous, don't exercise and are practically flatchested, so they can mantain a good balance and pass as either gender whenever they want. (I'm firmly on the camp of "they are really female").

>> No.22227742

Couldn't virtually all of the gauntlet knights be traitors? It's pretty much confirmed that most of them have CCP and only for Jayden it is confirmed that he doesn't, as far as I know. Any alternate personality could just be a traitor and hide the memories from the personalities we see.

>> No.22227746

it's probably a joke about the surreal side of beurocracy - you know, when you apply for some kind of social supplementary money meme (dunno what that'd be called, english isnt my first language), you fill out a bunch of forms wasting hours upon hours of your time, and then, months later, a letter arrives in the mail telling you that your application went through but it turns out your monthly allowance is basically nothing.

>> No.22227749

This. Miyao has a pussy and fucking hates it. I bet they are also relatively flat-chested but have their tits compressed with packing tape.

>> No.22227758

>miyao is a girl
fucking disgusting

>> No.22227760

Bern a cute!

>> No.22227761

>Miyao is biologically female
Man imagine having a cool as bro like Miyao that you could also fuck. Jayden is a lucky dude

>> No.22227762

you know, I just realized that I actually wouldn't want to fuck a guy with a pussy - it just seems like a shitty thing to do.

>> No.22227763

>refuse a future psychotropic treatment that erased their feelings of "dysphoria" in favor of the much more dangerous solution of transforming their body through surgery to fit the delusions of their mental illness.
but suicide rates drop after HRT /SRS
> Yasu wasn't born with dysphoria, he was born normal. What made him confused and fucked him up was losing his genitals as a baby,
lion does not have broken genitals and says s/he isn't male or female
and yasu main personality is female, beato is female, shannon is the happy personality while kanon is the one thats stays furniture, doesnt see the sea being blue yadi yada

>> No.22227764

Find a royal whose complete name isn't retarded.

>> No.22227771

The ABN is fucked up for murdering one of her alters using drugs and compensating her with 3 euros.

>> No.22227776

Miyao is a Jap, half of them are androgynous if they are determined to be.

It's not that unlikely.

>> No.22227778

this is what you get when you literally translate names anon

>> No.22227779

thats like 3 baguettes, I'd kill people for less than that

>> No.22227798

I also think that character is female. Just feels more "accepting" to be the case for the Ryukishi story because tomboys looks less uncanny then a twink or he would have pressed tranny propaganda already I believe. But I bet on female anyway still think its possible he did it in the other way.

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That would be amazing.

>> No.22227804

>kanon is the one thats stays furniture, doesnt see the sea being blue yadi yada
he just didn't allow himself to become human because he was afraid of not being good enough as a man. makes me feel bad for jessica desu.

>> No.22227823

young cuties

>> No.22227829

>juden yeladot shavit
>promoting degeneracy
Checks out once again.

>> No.22227831

Wait, are we getting another time loop? I thought the story was meant to continue after WW4 starts.

>> No.22227834

WW4 was a red herring
did you read the VN ? ww4 isn't happening

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>lion does not have broken genitals and says s/he isn't male or female
Because Lion isn't real and Lion's world isn't real either. It's a world imagined by Yasu. A lot of things don't add up in that world, including Lion's appearance and ideas about gender. He's a projection of a perfect self imagined by Yasu, who can't deal with the fact that the "real" Lion would just be a normal masculine dude with brown hair.

>and yasu main personality is female, beato is female, shannon is the happy personality while kanon is the one thats stays furniture, doesnt see the sea being blue yadi yada
This confirms what I'm saying. Shannon is the main "personality" because she was raised as a girl her whole life. She is a girl. Kanon only appeared when she realized that she's not really a girl at all but a castrated male eunuch without a future.

And they aren't even personalities, as I said. They are different sides of a single person, characterized as tulpas in her head.

>> No.22227838

I dunno maybe the whole thing are computer simulation to avoid disasters like minority report thing dunno.

>> No.22227841

>lion isnt real
stopped reading here

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dont speak ill of my wives

>> No.22227850

What motivation would they have to be traitors, though? None of these supposed alters would have anything to gain from causing a war, killing their "siblings" and dying themselves.

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Yuri will save the world from apocalypse

>> No.22227859

But it IS happening. Do you truly believe it was going to stop because LATO says so now that there are corpses in every faction? Not to mention there are people conspiring for it to happen.

>> No.22227861

Man I was kind of happy about this thought at first since it meant I could jack off to Meow without feeling gay but on second thought, I'd much rather just fuck a dude than a guy with a pussy, that's just weird.

>> No.22227863

Was real life Mahomet a CPP ?

>> No.22227866

They're fucking cultists bent on destroying civilization man, they don't have to behave logically.

>> No.22227870

>wanting the dead cuties to stay dead

>> No.22227873

based chosen people

>> No.22227877

no its not, nothing in the story points to it, its just a red herring that ryushiki set up since the initial reveal of ciconia's setting
is it the beggining of the end ? No, once its begun it already ended = plan ends before ww4 even has a chance to happen, if you try to stop ww4 you'll never succeed, thats why miyao will fail in every timelines, because he will try to stop ww4 when thats not the goals of his real ennemies

>> No.22227880

More like wanting to get some kind of story progression, this felt like a prelude to something else.

>> No.22227891

Nobody has TIME for WWIV, the world's already ending with the 8MS crisis. There is no point to a war when there's
1. a food crisis
2. a water crisis
3. all kinds of natural disasters occurring daily
4. every system known to man going haywire
shooting each other with missiles is a waste of time when the earth is quaking and nuclear winter is setting in. The place is going to be reduced to barbarism and feuds over the last scraps of pure water and edible food.

>> No.22227899

What do you mean nothing points to it when the story has quite a few instances of peace attempts being foiled every time?

>> No.22227910

You yourself have said it, and the text itself states it: those are the conditions preceding wars. All of the WW were fought in similar contexts.

>> No.22227916
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What if already happened and its all a simulation?
Getting some Matrix vibes from Ciconia

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You don't fuck the guy with a pussy, you tell your girlfriend to make him go away so he doesn't have to watch you fuck his body.

They asked Meow if her real sex is the one that Jayden was worried about, and she said "no, it's not like that, but...". And then the narration explained that a gender reveal would have consequences for Miyao, who is the only person most people in their life know. She didn't want to shame her proud onii-chan for a selfish desire to fuck a guy.

It's like how Shion was originally Mion but she let her sister pretend to be her sometimes out of pity. And then the tattoo thing happened and their identities were switched forever. It's possible that she let Miyao live on the outside because he's more hot tempered while she's a fucking shut in with no aspirations in life. And before she knew it, they were teenagers and Miyao had surrounded himself with friends and lots of acquaintances who knew him as a normal guy with no DID shit, let alone a vagina. By that point, she had no choice but to remain in his shadow and indulge in her otaku hobbies alone.

They chose to be a guy on the outside and now they are stuck like this even if Meow wants to find love. Reavealing their sex would make their social life a mess, Miyao would feel humiliated, people would be asking questions and he would have to explain about his DID to everyone, some of which might not believe it and think he's become a faggot.

>> No.22227925

To clarify, I'm not stating that WW4 is the focus of the game, I'm just saying that it's happening after part one ends in that timeline along with the rest of the disasters. All the stuff after the credits looked to me like an "In the next episode..."

>> No.22227953

i want to penetrate miyao's wall of peace ff you know what i mean

>> No.22227965

Yeah, I dunno about the next book being a restart. Since everything else has had a Revelation equivalent, we don't have a 7 headed dragon, an anti-Christ, and the 1,000 year vault really hints at R7 going for the Satan being imprisoned for 1,000 years under the earth thing during Christ's 1,000 year reign on the earth, it's just a smash cut to the meat factory and VR World, which it's Revelation equivalent can easily be the "New Heaven and New Earth"

>> No.22228026

Yeah, if they were physically male, Meow wouldn't have said that the sex reveal would have consequences for Miyao, since everyone thought he was male to begin with. The Shion link was something I didn't think about. That's neat.

>> No.22228044

Another thing supporting the theory is their names.

They were originally called Miyao and at some point gave themselves different names. So she chose Meow because it's similar to the name she's had since the beginning. Miyao kept his real name because he's the one creating a social life in the outside world, so there's no point in him identifying with some other name.

If they really are a girl, Meow is pretty cute and best girl.

>> No.22228046

When do you guys predict phase 2 will come out

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>> No.22228062

2020 Winter. It's a prophecy, not a prediction

>> No.22228069

It's also interesting how Meow clearly likes men but Miyao doesn't give much of a shit about sex.

>> No.22228100

6-12 months from now.

>> No.22228105

I'm reading the controversial part of their date and doesn't seem like propaganda just plain leaving for the readers to judge the context. Its funny how they call the jew trio to try and solve the issue. Layers and layers of irony.

>> No.22228108

He has the whole story planned out and said it would be less reactive than other WTC to reader theories. The structure and most of the events are already written, he just needs to put it all into words. It won't change depending on what people on the internet have figured out this time around

Umineko and Higurashi were reactive to people's theories (EP3 was changed because people were so lost with EP2) and they were released six months apart (except for one year when he skipped comiket), even though Ryuukishi was literally writing half of Higurashi while on the job (dude can multitask apparently).

So in theory Ciconia should take even less time, but it will probably be every six months. He has the story planned out in detail and is fully dedicated to the job of writing VNs. Unless there are delays from the colorist, the musicians or the 3D animators, there should be a chapter every six months.

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This makes more sense the more I think about it.

Miyao probably sees his pussy and small tits every day, that's why he's not interested in women's bodies that much. And he's a macho despite being a pipsqueak, so he's not interested in gay shit either. He's probably heterosexual but isn't that horny about women because he knows all there is to know about their bodies.

Meow, on the other hand, likes dick, has never seen one in front of her, and likes men because girls are attracted to cool, confident guys.

>> No.22228131

So why did Tomitake sell the 8MS blueprints to the LATO guy?
Did he sell them so they would end up in Mario's hands?
Or did he do it so after everything goes to shit people know how to fix the 8MS?

>> No.22228133

No, only the hunger is. Miyao notes that the rest are things that avert wars, they're crises that cause humanity to unite and try to survive. There's no reason to be fighting any "wars" when death is behind every corner. There will still be fights, but on the level of individuals.

>> No.22228154

How would selling them to the LATO general get them to Mario?

>> No.22228158

I really like the contrast between the escalating military tensions and the goofy slice of life of Jayden and his DID gf. Or the contrast between the fun of flying around with a gauntlet and all the crazy fucking experiments performed on the kids.

>> No.22228162

That's wishful thinking. Miyao has been proven wrong every time up until this point. She'll need to become a new person in order to fix things.

>> No.22228163

the guy he sells them to says that even if all the labs on the world would be unable to use them, a secret underground lab could

>> No.22228165

>He has the whole story planned out and said it would be less reactive than other WTC to reader theories
That's pretty interesting. I wonder if it'll be for the better or for the worse.

>> No.22228166

Meow says that its not a problem Jayden will know the gender so it clearly would be female?

>> No.22228169

>So why did Tomitake sell the 8MS blueprints
Because he's a hobo and needed the money to rent a hotel room.

>> No.22228175

So, if we go by the Apocalypse I'd say we got to the part where the seals are broken and the trumpets are sound. The next parts will be the rest of the thing, after all Jesus is born on December 25.

>> No.22228189

Many otaku freaks want to be little girls. Maybe Ryuukishi is living out his fantasy of not only having the body of a cute girl, but also having that girl in your head as a lifelong mental companion AND dominating her body and making it yours to do with as you please, her feelings be damned.

I mean, Miyao is a bit selfish when you think about it. What's all this business about "letting her go out to play". She may be more childish and immature, but that doesn't give him the right to one-sidedly control their life like that.

>> No.22228201

Yeah. I bet we either get a cycle every other book, or if subsequent books after the first two cut out a bunch of the worldbuilding to let all of books 1 and 2 fit into a book 3

>> No.22228202

I wonder if Tomitake's objective is once again to stop his waifu Takano from doing evil things.

>> No.22228212

Hopefully, because I don't see anyone able to stop a Tomitake/Takano teamup

>> No.22228233
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Maybe that's why he went back to the conspiracy theory style of mysteries from Higurashi, and cranked it up to 11. The only way to figure out the truth is to put on your tin foil hat, take shots in the dark and come up with any plausible theory you can think of. He gave us all sorts of fuel in the form of illuminatis, chivalric orders, aliens, souls, nanomachines, VR, DID, immortality, crazy tech, angel wings, monstrous creatures, war between factions, political intrigue...

Umineko was a rare specimen in that regard, because it had clearly defined rules, red truth and all that, so an attentive reader would be guaranteed to figure out most of the truth early on. If he tried that again, people would solve it all in the first episode because they already know his tricks and his tendency to put foreshadowing literally everywhere. So he went for conspiracy mystery this time.

I really like it that way. It allows for countless theories.

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This is Ranma all over again.

>> No.22228254

Tomitake's objective is ascending to the meta and copyright claiming Batler's magic ending speech because he plagiarized Tomitake's final speech in Higurashi word for word.

Zombie loli from Higanbana copied Beato's last words from when she died in EP5, too.

>> No.22228260

It's like every single thing that was imagined by the poor persecution complex victims from Higurashi was made real in Ciconia. Including that one immortal guy that hanged himself. Yes, Keiichi, corpses can climb up from the hole and go back to torment their nieces.

>> No.22228271

What exactly did they do to the doctor guy? Was his brain replaced with a huge ass HDD so he could store all the information in the world?

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wants to cull humanity in the same way as the 3 kings. but the difference is he wants more people (himself included) to survive it. he likely has another goal related to miyao and/or his ex beyond this though.
not entirely clear. seems to go along with the 3K, to the point where gray considers her a traitor. it's notable that gray sees the 3K as direct enemies.
when talking about the wisdom stolen by gray, she basically says "it's not time yet", so it's not sure if she wants to go against the 3K eventually at a later point.

it's also notable that seshat is not her real name or necessarily even her real avatar. she might be someone else we know already.

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Despite fighting for the rational side, Battler is fairly religious in his mindset, don't you think? He doesn't believe only because he doesn't want to believe and that's not a reasonable way to go about things.

Whenever I see Battler coming up with ridiculous stories about traps and suicides I can't help but think about all the debates between atheists and Christians I've seen.

For example, in the Gospel of Matthew Jesus predicts Peter’s denial by saying that “he would deny Him 3 times before the rooster crows” but in the Gospel of Mark he predicts that he would deny Him 3 times “before the rooster crows twice”. These are the facts stated in red but a sly apologist would deny witches that there is a contradiction anyway. After all, it all fits together perfectly if Peter denied Jesus 6 times: 3 times before the rooster crowed and 3 times before the rooster crowed twice! Checkmate, atheists!

Does anyone else notice the similarities between Battler and Beato's game and Christian apologetics or is it just me?

>> No.22228299

Maybe this is one of those kinds of /x/ theories like that we died in the "Hillary" timeline and got saved by Trump or really we just went to hell etc.

>> No.22228318

Culling humanity seems to be a necessity in Sesshat's eyes, else "they" come and shit gets fucked.

>> No.22228328

Umineko was only hard because:

-The red was misleading (half a truth is a whole lie).

-The magic explanations and lore were fascinating and made you stop thinking.

-Scenes where magic didn't happen could still be lies, but readers accepted them as truth without questioning the sources.

-The magic scenes themselves contained most of the truth in plain view or as a metaphor, but readers were likely to dismiss it all as bullshit and forget about anything they said.

If you didn't fall for those pitfalls, it was easy.

>> No.22228338

((they)) are the red eyed slender aliens Rena saw in that one tip.

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reminder that theres absolutely nothing wrong with ascension

>> No.22228369

'They' are the aliens. Seshat is also an alien. Also Hanyuu is an alien. You have to remember that most guardian dieties have territories in proportion to how much they are able to inspire reverence, fear or worship. This is how pseudo-meta beings get their power, as well as actual meta-beings like witches. In Higurashi, Hanyuu was able to obtain power due to Hinamizawa curse and used it to give Rika a second change over and over. In Umineko, Beatrice got her power by having people on the internet ponder about the Rokenzima murders happened. In Higurashi Hou, this is spelled out blatantly with a new alien deity taking over the world. Throughout the world, each god is essentially real with a limited amount of shared territory.
So my theory is that Seshat is the same, except her territory is the entire internet and all of knowledge. And these new aliens want to kill all of humanity to end the protection given by those deities and eat humanity entirely.

>> No.22228384

>the red truth was a red herring all along

>> No.22228396

>Umineko was a rare specimen in that regard, because it had clearly defined rules, red truth and all that
except that the bullshit they pull in the later chapters of chiru means that literally every single red truth except for how many people are on the island can be disproven by just saying "they were acting under a different name at the time"

>> No.22228402

Literally the only person who can put on and cast off names is Yasu and she only has 3 masks total.

>> No.22228405

This is very obvious and stupid, but did anyone point to the fact that cats make a meow sound and it therefore means that Meow is actually a piece of Bernkastel?

>> No.22228417

>Literally the only person who can put on and cast off names is Yasu and she only has 3 masks total.
prove it

>> No.22228422

>So in theory Ciconia should take even less time
You haven't taken into account that Ryukishi is old. He complained a lot that he can't write as much as he wants. I was reading some old interviews and he said that, while writing Higurashi, he would only sleep 4 hours a night and that it would give him enough time to work and write everything. He probably did the same with Umineko. But he's getting older, so that sort of dedication isn't possible.

>> No.22228432

>implying it's not too ascend to the meta and fuck lambda
Having a harem of Takano piece is the most Tomitake thing to do.

>> No.22228474

what do canadians feed their girls

>> No.22228485

Big ol' buckets of poutine.

>> No.22228497

lots of milk and cheese from the canadian dairy mafia

>> No.22228501

Knox rules

>> No.22228520

Milk, maple syrup and poutine.

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Clearly it's the cat with the hime cut who's Bern.

>> No.22228658

Ciconia is alt right game, it has Pepe as the mascot.

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>> No.22228730

I want a full pepe poyo patch just to make Ciconia the worst piece of media of all time

>> No.22228741

-By the time the game ended, while I wanted to get to know some of the other characters better, I felt I would miss focusing on the original 6. R07 did a good job of getting you invested in these characters.
-The sci-fi and philosophical aspects were all extremely interesting. It feels like R07 has had a lot of ideas that he wanted to express, but couldn't find a way to include them in the stories he was telling, and now he's finally able to let loose. Nothing felt unbelievable.
-R07 has improved his writing, mainly by being more concise. Gone are the days in Umineko where an entire page could be made up of rephrases of the same sentence. Things are said simply and with purpose. I don't think the walls of peace were repeated too much because they're a key motivator and symbol of the actions the characters are taking.
-People said that the scariest part of the game was the factory, but I thought the Pandora treatment and the Christmas party were scarier.
-There needs to be a glossary for certain key terms. I get that additional information about them is introduced as the story progresses, but they always start off by giving you something. It would be very helpful to include references for terms like 8MS, CPP, PP, A3W, Dreissig conversion, Spiritium, etc. Add additional information as the story progresses if you don't want to say it all right away. I read it through very quickly, so I had an easy time remembering, but this may be a problem for people who have worse memory or need to take a break from reading for a while.
-The music was disappointing. The tracks in general weren't memorable or particularly suited to the story. I enjoyed that some of the tracks had a war theme that fit the game, but many didn't. Umineko was able to create some clear themes, even from the beginning. (Classical music = normal life, techno = magic/horror) The music, while fitting, was also technically impressive: Tracks like Hane, In the sun, Towering cloud in summer, Novelette, Steady pace, Ride on, Sakura, Rose, and Worldend were all extremely high-quality and present from the beginning. (It's a testament to their quality that I could name almost all of these off the top of my head after so many years because of how many times I've listened to them.)
-The ending was lackluster. It felt like he was saying, "Look at all the cool things that are going to be in future games! Trust me, they're great, so buy them!" Just confusing and pointless.

-One arc will have the knights kill the adults and stage a coup. This will be similar to Umineko's Banquet: You blamed the adults, so I killed them all.
-Each phase will focus on one of the other factions. We might even see the grand master of the chivalric order or its leaders change in each phase.
-The other phases will take different apocalyptic texts as guides for their plots. I can't see him using the exact same one multiple times. It would get too repetitive.

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I remember Ryukishi made a joke about a Higurashi mod that lets you change a character's outfit regardless of the scene. I know deep down he was serious about that at one point and wish such a thing existed for ciconia.

>> No.22228765

>the original 6
Stop ignoring Meow, she's a cute.

>> No.22228874

What if everyone in the AOU is Bernkastel's piece?
Kosha has the hime haircut, Chloe has blue hair, Lilja says Meow in every sentence, Miyao has an alt-personality called Meow.
I don't know what connection Jayden and Gun have with Bernkastel though.

>> No.22228883

The only connection I can think of for Gun is that it took a miracle for her to succeed, and Bernkastel helped her with that.

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>all adults are evil
>all kids are good

>> No.22228976

Lingji's confused face is really cute.

>> No.22228982

Lingji is really cute.

>> No.22228985

people jerking off pisses me off so much for this reason. It goes against pretty much everything ryukishi was originally going for because retarded otaku were sending him death threats and harassing him over ep 8. Its fucking beyond awful

>> No.22228986

Would be a shame if anything happened to her

>> No.22228990

*jerking off confessions

>> No.22228995

>forcing him to release Confession because they were idiots
You say that like releasing Confession was a bad thing.

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>> No.22229015

Bullshit. Having a clear answer doesn't ruin the message about having your own truth. Plus Confession adds so much more characterization to Yasu, doing a better job of making me sympathize with them in 3 chapters than Episode 7 did in its whole flashback. If Ryukishi had never confirmed the answer than all that characterization would be nothing more than speculation.

>> No.22229031

40 dollar stock music

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Not like it matters at the end, Jayden pretty fucking clearly doesn't care if it's a dude with a pussy or a girl.
If Miyao ever gives in Jayden will end up plowing both personalities.
He truly is, Floridaman.

>> No.22229046

Nah, he seemed pretty shaken up about it at first. Super easy to say "I'll love you no matter what" whole other story once you have a dick in your mouth.

>> No.22229047

Episode 7 already gave a clear answer. He left it 'technically' open ended because it fit with the themes and felt kind of poetic and fitting, but he still very clearly told us what the solution was.

>> No.22229058

OH shit! Koshka is green-haired Reimu!

>> No.22229072

It gave you the answer of who the culprit is. With some thought, you could also figure out the howdunnit. But Confession and the other additions the Episode 8 manga added flesh out the whydunnit in ways the vn never touched on. That's what makes it so important. Not that it gives you concrete answers, but that it helps you better understand the character at the center of everything.

>> No.22229077

Where exactly is the scene where Meow says this about their sex?

>> No.22229084

the VN heavily focused on the whydunnit, it just never spelled it out to you, and only mainly told it through the fantasy scenes

>> No.22229085

Near the end of the date scene, when she's talking to the girls.

>> No.22229094

End of her date with Jayden before you get the keropoyo warning to stop streaming.
Jayden asks about what's her biological sex for the future of their relationship, she tells him she doesn't mind revealing it, but it would bother Miyao as this matter also involves him and she would do it on christmas.

It's why it's theorized that Miyao is a girl, as if he was a male, Meow would have just revealed it right there without making any suspense about it.
He might also be a true murder_bot3000 and have no genitalia

>> No.22229102

Episode 7 told you about Yasu's backstory but in her language, through Clair who was a narrator. A lot of shit is glossed over or made to look nicer. That's why it comes off as a crazy chick who killed everyone over a pony.

You were supposed to see past that and realize that she's hiding her real feelings about all of this. But most people were dumb and took it all at face value.

>> No.22229116

Okay thanks. Upon rereading this scene, it does seem to imply that Miyao is a girl. It wouldn't make sense to say that revealing your gender as male would cause problems if everyone already viewed you as a male.

On the other hand, this does raise some interesting questions about how Toujirou thinks of Meow. Maybe we'll see them interact in the future.

>> No.22229126

The 2 years that Clair avoided talking about are literally the prologue of EP2. That's the why dunnit right there.

>> No.22229139

Maybe he thinks his daughter is gender confused and doesn't mind treating her like a son if that's what she wants. It's not like gender actually matters at all in the AOU. He probably doesn't take the DID seriously and thinks she's just playing pretend or something, which must make Meow feel like her existence is being denied.

>> No.22229166

This gender theory is worrying me. Are there any other androgynous characters that might be lying about ther sex like Miyao? I don't want any of the cuties to have a dick.

Naomi is the only suspicious one.

>> No.22229179

Oh silly anon. They all have dicks.

>> No.22229188

All the milk trucks have cock and the washboards are models of feminine beauty.

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It tells you enough to understand the motive. But the manga expands upon that even more, letting you better understand Yasu's heart.

>> No.22229213

If Meow is a girl, just how hairy is her pussy? And how old even is she, physically speaking? Because mentally she's barely 13.

Based Jayden, dating his best friend's loli sister and finding the idea of her possibly being male off-putting. He's no faggot after all!

>> No.22229221

I think she only calls Miyao big brother because he's far more mature and experienced. She seems stuck at a younger age.

It has nothing to do with who came first, since they both existed to begin with.

More and more proof that she's really a girl.

>> No.22229223

You're reading far, far too much into Gray if you take what he said seriously.

Gray is a low level player of Prometheus, explicitly called a traitor and a *moron* by Seshat. His conversation with Seshat can be boiled down to:

>"Gray, you're a traitor. You don't know what you're talking about. We're still following the Plan."
>"No u."
>"I can't be a traitor you fucking moron. I'm the Grand Master. I know what I'm doing."
>"No u u are traitor u let people die."

>> No.22229245

Also, given that Prometheus splintered from the Ninth Prime Knight Orders and was formerly under the Three Kings command, and that their relationship seems at least neutral, Prometheus has probably no agenda going counter to the Three Kings. For the moment at least.

>> No.22229250

>If Meow is a girl, just how hairy is her pussy?

>> No.22229263

I mean, the fact that they are treating it as a mystery in the first place is already suspicious. Everyone knows Miyao as a guy, so why would both Meow and the narrator beat around the bush like that? The only explanation is that there isn't a dick down there at all, but a pussy, supported by lots of evidence.

>> No.22229283

Even Jayden is unsure about it. When he met her, he was like "god, this is totally Miyao, what the fuck". But after getting to know her, the next day he acted all creepy towards Miyao, probably assuming he was a girl after all and just had a male alternate personality. It's made clear later on that he doesn't like the idea of his gf having a dick, so he's obviously thinking he's female during the cafeteria scene.

And then, after he resolves himself to love her no matter what, he's still unsure about what sex she might be. Even though at first he believed this was totally a dude with a female alter. Something made him doubt that apparently "obvious" fact.

>> No.22229292

Miyao is an Ange expy. His body must be the same sex as Ange's, even if he's got DID.

>> No.22229303

I wasnt around for release day, what did I miss. I see everyone posting about Ciconia but what about Saku, anything interesting?

>> No.22229305

the neetbux frenchie is the ange expy

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>> No.22229321

Miyao is a boy including penis. Deal with it.

>> No.22229327

i want to pick up and bend miyao over a counter while he's in the middle of lecturing me

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>> No.22229340

Not having vr sex with Meow in your selcom while Miyao unknowingly continues to berate you.

>> No.22229342

You'll make Miyao fade away forever and leave Meow alone if you keep going.

>> No.22229347

if theres no cock whats the point

>> No.22229350

Why do people need videos to find out the length of seacats?

>> No.22229359

Is there an easier way?

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it's important

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>> No.22229383

I guess my main problem with Ciconia is i don't get what's the 'game' here. In Umineko it was pretty obviously all about figuring out who the culprit was and exposing the witch, in higurashi it was about figuring out what was going on in the first place, but i have no clue what the general direction of ciconia really is. What's the endgame here? It feels more directionless

>> No.22229390

>in higurashi it was about figuring out what was going on in the first place
>Umineko ... all about figuring out who the culprit was and exposing the witch

Doesn't it feel like there's one overarching story here with each new WTC?

>> No.22229391

VNDB is not accurate at all, especially on the "very long" amount

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The end game was literally spelled out by the The Kings: the eradication of humanity. The game has one clear goal: survive. If humanity has one couple left standing, it wins. This is Noah's arc but without an arc to survive. You heard alt-Miyao's prophecy, humanity is going to be screwed in every possible way. My estimate is that Miyao is going to go through that door to see humanity still alive and kicking 1000 years later. You know, like the ending of Gunbuster.

>> No.22229451

Figuring out what to figure out! Didn't think of that, did you? Please excuse me while I slobber ryukishi's knob

>> No.22229453

The manga is shital
All fake addings for made shkanontrice works

>> No.22229464

Before the game came out he said we weren't going to be a player aka he just wants to tell a story. You're reading a vn.

>> No.22229469

Why did he make it a WTC game then?

>> No.22229475
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You missed Battler's mom.

>> No.22229477

What makes it a WtC game are the victory conditions applied to a gameboard. Compare Ciconia with RGD or Higanbana. Those two aren't WtC games because there are no victory conditions, they're normal VNs. Ciconia is a secret duel between the Witch of Fate and the Witch of Miracles, with perhaps the side aid of the Witch of Certainty.

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>> No.22229492

>higurashi it was about figuring out what was going on in the first place
It's figuring what's going on, just like Higurashi and Umineko. That's always the game. The fact that you don't know what's going on only mean you're losing the game.

Now if you're talking about the ultimate end goal, then for Higurashi it was to survive, for Umineko it was exposing the witch in order to survive, and for Ciconia it is understanding what's happening in order to survive.

It almost seems like it's a WtC.

>> No.22229501

Same as Higurashi. What the hell is going on, who's on whose side and an assortment of smaller mysteries.

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