When They Cry Ciconia

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When They Cry Ciconia Anonymous Fri Oct 4 19:22:25 2019 No.22191426 [Reply] [Original]

In the gay dark future of post WW3, Hunter X Hunter still isn't finished

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 19:34:12 2019 No.22191462 >>22191426 crop

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 19:41:21 2019 No.22191487 Is this game a giant meme or what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 19:43:20 2019 No.22191494 Erika best girl

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 20:10:15 2019 No.22191600 >>22191487 Probably gonna focus on the nature of memetics and info control. You know, like the worst possible nature of fiction

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 20:39:14 2019 No.22191706 File: 1.30 MB, 1181x1417, 1568055151601.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22191600 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyN5tNYhfSg Is it going to be like this but a VN?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 20:42:45 2019 No.22191720 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrPllRrw6c this is so good

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 20:43:24 2019 No.22191724 >>22191706 More like all me btw:3

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 20:57:48 2019 No.22191781 File: 1.33 MB, 1273x711, 73759.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] based

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 21:10:37 2019 No.22191823 File: 60 KB, 253x197, D2EB5941-8AF9-4D3A-8A6D-41F0BD0D0CC6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I’m actually impressed by how gay this is

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 21:12:41 2019 No.22191830 File: 376 KB, 529x720, 1570156287740.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Contrary to popular belief, there has been zero(0) gay characters in this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 21:23:31 2019 No.22191852 Are any of the data archives worth reading? I don't think I have the patience to get through them all. I thought they'd be short stingers like the Tea Parties, but so far they feel like the complete opposite. Overly long without anything substantial.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 21:24:37 2019 No.22191859 File: 381 KB, 249x619, 38748.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to fuck the nobility out of this woman.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 21:55:10 2019 No.22191992 >>22191426 is this actually any good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 21:56:56 2019 No.22191995 >>22191859 Corpses cannot have nobility.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:02:17 2019 No.22192007

>>22191992
If you're not already a cult follower of 07th expansion, this seems pretty unlikely to change that. Though as someone who is such a cultist, I liked it enough to spend my every waking hour since its release reading it and I'm eagerly awaiting phase 2 or any crumbs that get dropped along the way. He doesn't really show his cards much in this first part at all IMO. Lots of exposition and context setting with a bit of spectacle sprinkled in between.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:04:24 2019 No.22192016 >>22191852 yes, I remember 15 and 16 especially being relevant

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:07:14 2019 No.22192031 >>22192007 For sure, I really loved the pacing and depth of content of this chapter 1 compared to Higurashi and Umineko. Really hoping subsequent chapters deliver on more worldbuilding and the interesting premise he's got going on here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:08:51 2019 No.22192035 miyao has a shorter skirt than every single girl in the game

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:09:26 2019 No.22192040 When are Yelador Shavit going to die? I can't stand them anymore.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:12:25 2019 No.22192054

>>22191992
I just finished it a minute ago. I honestly don't know. There's a lot of naive rambling 'if we stick together our optimism won't die' that gets boring after the 10th time it happens and keeps going. There's a good amount of sadism which is good, an obvious stable of Ryukishi. In some parts, Ryukishi outdid himself and his political and philosophical commentaries are a delight to read.
I'm really unsure what to think of the ending itself though.

I've been reading Ciconia for the past 24 hours nonstop and it was enjoyable, so whatever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:13:36 2019 No.22192060 So no Saku lead?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:24:18 2019 No.22192105 >>22192060 No Saku leak just yet

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:24:39 2019 No.22192106 So, theories about the ending?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:25:33 2019 No.22192110 >>22192106 It is going to be shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:26:30 2019 No.22192112 >>22192110 I meant, do you have any fucking clue to explain what happened?

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:27:07 2019 No.22192115

>>22192106
I'm not really sure of anything yet, but from Toujirou's little speech when the drones went haywire, it seems to me like they're trying to call a player to the game still. So maybe there's only 1 player (whose piece is Jestress, maybe? Or maybe even none).

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:27:31 2019 No.22192120 >>22192106 magic and witches

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:28:09 2019 No.22192123 >>22192112 I honestly have no idea what is going on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:35:29 2019 No.22192141 File: 266 KB, 382x280, crazy miyao.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22191487 People are dying you know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:39:00 2019 No.22192151 >>22192141 I liked batshit Miyao more when he didn't have that blue body

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:39:58 2019 No.22192156 >>22192151 Same. But I guess the first reveal more than made up for it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:43:53 2019 No.22192170 How do I get Fragment 16? Do I have to read all previous Fragments?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:45:54 2019 No.22192179 >>22192170 yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:48:28 2019 No.22192186 >>22192179 I heard only Fragment 14 and 15 are worth reading. Should I fast-froward the rest to read Fragment 16?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 22:50:18 2019 No.22192197 >>22192186 that's probably fine tip 12 - Sibling's Day is pretty interesting tip 14 is also pretty good most of the others are pretty skippable character stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 23:03:10 2019 No.22192250 this fucking batman music dude

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 23:07:37 2019 No.22192269 File: 36 KB, 1274x716, koshka is a bad name.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hot!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 23:13:12 2019 No.22192310 File: 2.32 MB, 1279x715, Kos 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22192269

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 23:25:49 2019 No.22192361 the jew idols really are non stop shitposters arent they

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 23:31:43 2019 No.22192378 >>22191823 Me too, but I feel R07 hasn't been distasteful in doing it. It fits the story, and isn't there just so trannies can self insert.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 23:54:30 2019 No.22192456 >>22192378 It seemed pretty even handed and confined to a few scenes. He hand lots to say about tons of stuff. I'd be real disappointed but not surprised if the trans stuff is all anyone talks about.....

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 23:56:03 2019 No.22192460 >>22192456 Considering how minor it is in Umineko yet it's still one of the main shitposting topics, I wouldn't be surprised. At least a lot of the retards should stay off it for a while since there's no voice acting or modern sprites.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 00:10:55 2019 No.22192528 File: 2.27 MB, 1276x714, 23563.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 00:16:54 2019 No.22192552 That Christmas Party sequence was good

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Anonymous Sat Oct 5 00:24:18 2019 No.22192573

I finished reading Fragment 16. This is truly a WtC. It's a gameboard but of a different kind. This is humanity at large fighting God, or a representative of God.
As per the gameboard, there are clear goals for victory and not-Tomitake gives the conditions throughout the VN: if a single couple survives, it's a victory. If the entire human race dies, it's a loss.
Losing 3.5/10 billion is nothing. This war will come down to the entire human race dying. There's still 5.5 billion more to go.
I'm not sure if there's a XYZ rule.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 00:25:23 2019 No.22192578 >>22192559 Do those signs say "Brain DispRay?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 00:53:54 2019 No.22192682 bros how long do the fragments take to read

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 00:59:18 2019 No.22192705 >>22192106 takano sad childhood boo hoo now she hate god and society

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 00:59:47 2019 No.22192706 That ending almost made me feel something. R07 is falling behind with this one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:01:57 2019 No.22192712 >>22192460 You'd be surprised how much damage one autist can do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:04:20 2019 No.22192718 >>22192706 Eh, I didn't care for any of the characters either but this ending elicited more emotion than the endings of the other first episodes. Though this might have something to do with me not being an edgy teenager anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:05:55 2019 No.22192720 >>22192682 I hope they're not all like the first fragment. Was like a mediocre SOL scene that r07 just didnt end up using but didnt want to throw away.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:07:35 2019 No.22192723 >>22192720 Let me know if any of the fragments are actually worth reading. I don't care enough about the characters to read pointless extras.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:08:58 2019 No.22192729 >>22192723 Ryukishi makes you care about characters by swinging a bat into your head repeatedly, just go through with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:10:33 2019 No.22192737 >>22192720 Well I enjoy Jayden's faggy date and the guys offering advice more than any part of the game anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:12:13 2019 No.22192745 >>22192723 12-15 are worth reading lore wise. 1-2-3 are funny. The rest can be skipped but they're still enjoyable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:13:29 2019 No.22192750 >>22192745 >>22192723 Oh, and Fragment 16 is absolutely worth reading. It contextualizes the entire gameboard and what Ciconia will be about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:14:24 2019 No.22192755 >>22192745 >>22192750 Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:16:49 2019 No.22192760 File: 1.95 MB, 1271x712, autism.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the greatest achievement of the finnish race

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:17:49 2019 No.22192765 File: 2.42 MB, 1279x716, Hmm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He's talking about Takano, right? I guess Takano has really graduated from being a piece.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:18:42 2019 No.22192771 File: 167 KB, 1280x720, EDqgF0TWsAIcmJk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This kills the Fins

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:22:26 2019 No.22192787 File: 185 KB, 1024x792, 1551862272037.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How'd he do boys? WW2 trivia and Christian villain should be added here too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:25:38 2019 No.22192807 So what are the chances of Miyao not having a dick?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:26:45 2019 No.22192811 File: 2.04 MB, 1234x740, 1570253205317.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22192765 He is talking about not-lambdadelta (aka the Jester). Takano works together with nigger-berkanstel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:27:02 2019 No.22192814 >>22192807 He will have a penis and I will bully it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:28:02 2019 No.22192819 WHERE'S THE MEGA LINK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:29:10 2019 No.22192822 >>22192819 It's on nyaa

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:29:26 2019 No.22192825 >>22192807 I would have said "very likely" before the glasses started calling him "a son" repeatedly. He says 息子 even in japanese.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:29:56 2019 No.22192830
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>>22192811
I thought about that too, but it felt too obvious for a Ryuukishi ploy with the Jestress.
We all know that graduating from the game board means becoming the witch/sorcerer equivalent, Takano is apparently in a higher state than even the three kings and just doing what she wants there in the underground.

I don't even think that Jestress is really lambda too, she feels like a red herring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:30:29 2019 No.22192832 >>22192825 It's okay. Meow can just use a avatar with a vagina model in VR so she can fuck Jayden.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:31:19 2019 No.22192835

I managed to read the entire thing and I didn't clock not-Takano's name is Vier Dreizig - Four Thirty, and I was looking for shit like this
No way am I solving anything
Stan is suspect though, and not only because of the fucked up ł

>>22192807
If he's the boy from the intro he has one
If he's the blue automaton then we've seen their crotches
Otherwise without love it cannot be seen

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:32:31 2019 No.22192841 File: 305 KB, 499x720, 1570230879433.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22192832 That would be more gay than just fucking her boyhole.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:32:33 2019 No.22192842

>>22192830
I thought the Jestress was actually Takano under a mask, didn't know she was a different character. They talk the same and have the same colour palette. But not once did I ever think she was Lambdawg, didn't even pop into my mind when she took off the mask. I don't see it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:33:37 2019 No.22192847 >>22192765 >graduate from life That's what I've been trying to do for 26 years but I ain't got the courage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:34:09 2019 No.22192851 >>22192847 Do it faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:34:09 2019 No.22192852 File: 65 KB, 500x643, trust nobody.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why finland and sweden are the vilians? Is ryukishi trying to say something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:34:24 2019 No.22192853 File: 518 KB, 1024x792, ciconia bingo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22192787 My evaluation isn't complete and I need to think on it more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:35:04 2019 No.22192854 File: 140 KB, 296x186, chloe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i would just like to remind everybody

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:35:49 2019 No.22192858 >>22192853 I'm still not sure were the plot is going regarding the VR stuff, are we doing a board inside a board?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:36:04 2019 No.22192860 File: 232 KB, 356x307, c7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22192854 My eyes are up here, you animal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:37:14 2019 No.22192865 >>22192860 I bet Chloe does that on purpose because she isn't confident enough for people to look her in the eye.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:37:18 2019 No.22192866 >>22192854 Pathetic human! How can she live with herself?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:38:04 2019 No.22192872 What's the consensus on Ciconia bros, is it the next Umineko we've all been waiting for?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:38:28 2019 No.22192873 >>22192865 Wait till you get a taste of Chloevil.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:39:08 2019 No.22192874

>>22192853
So far there's nothing meta, so no Meta-Fiction Heavy Plot
Magical realism would be the 8MS does whatever I want it to and I dont have to explain shit.
Unreliable Narrator? Where did you get any of that?

You forgot to circle "Anyone can die and probably will"
"loads and loads of characters"
"mythology gag" because the sheshtet or however her name is spelled

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:39:45 2019 No.22192877 >>22192872 Umineko was inferior to Higurashi so expecting it to be another Umineko would already give it a disservice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:40:01 2019 No.22192880 >>22192872 It's Higurashi + RGD with Umineko levels of craziness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:40:22 2019 No.22192881 >>22192872 So far having finished episode 1, it's pretty mediocre. It can go either way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:41:17 2019 No.22192883 >all those PS3fags not immediately spotting the Lambda expy because they never saw her original sprite Why did they make her hair so damn yellow in the PS3 version? It fucks up her intended similarity to Takano and this Illuminati bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:41:35 2019 No.22192884 >>22192872 Heartless scheming by multiple competent parties. If you ignore the gay part, it's pretty good, a recommended read overall. Too soon to say if it will be able to top Umineko though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:42:16 2019 No.22192885 >>22192872 It's my favorite ep1 of the lot, it'll be interesting to see if he can nail the premise in future chapters though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:42:43 2019 No.22192886 >>22192883 She looks more like a teenage Miyoko wearing Lambda's hat. And she keeps talking about grandpas and shit.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:42:55 2019 No.22192887
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>>22192854
Canada's pride and joy beyond poutine.

>>22192858
No. The board is the literal world. The Meta is the VR and a person's inner-consciousness itself. 8MS is basically nanomachine magic so fuck if I know where it's going with that. Wisdom is also magic. Anything can be magic because of science, and I guess that qualifies enough for magic realism.

>>22192874
Oops, lemme fix that.
I consider the VRs meta but meh.
I'm expecting the entire human race to die except like 10 people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:42:55 2019 No.22192888 >>22192883 >because they never saw her original sprite I mean the hat kinda gave it away, at least for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:44:08 2019 No.22192893 >>22192883 This. Her hair was supposed to be white-ish yellow, not Satoko yellow. Like Takano! Why did they change it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:44:29 2019 No.22192895 File: 2.21 MB, 1243x741, c6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Explain yourself, leafs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:44:34 2019 No.22192896 File: 178 KB, 550x649, __takano_miyo_and_tanashi_miyoko_higurashi_no_naku_koro_ni_drawn_by_suzushiro_kurumi__89ac7f9b2f02b6cf523daa7735a82858.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22192886 i prefer the name loli-takano

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:44:51 2019 No.22192898

>>22192872
I don't know if it's the next Umineko but it proves to me that Ryukishi still has it. I would say that it has the lowest lows of any of his first episodes (including RGD) but he really upped the worldbuilding, sadism and philosophy.
I see where Ryukishi is going with Ciconia and it's going to be an insane ride. He's going to kill the entire fucking human race.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:45:52 2019 No.22192899 >>22192895 >not Poutine Ryukishi didn't do his research

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:46:27 2019 No.22192901 File: 194 KB, 264x328, 34636.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hatred for g*ds spanning time and space.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:47:26 2019 No.22192904 >>22192898 >He's going to kill the entire fucking human race. Jokes on you. resets the game

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:49:11 2019 No.22192910

>>22192883
Same reason Bern is flat and George is a bishonen that looks nothing like Tomitake. Deen wanted the Higurashi anime audience and changed things around to make the characters more "appealing". And those changes remained in the console versions because they are made to sell and tie in to the anime. Same with the awful creepy Maria CGs that have no place in the story and they added them in anyway.

It's obvious that Ryuukishi doesn't give a shit about the console versions and will always base the expies on his original designs. That's why he let them butcher Higurashi by removing entire scenes from the last few arcs, and why he didn't care about them censoring Yasu's ancestry and Battler drinking alcohol. They are products made to sell this shit to the masses, the only thing going for them is the voice acting. He only cares for his original doujin VNs, as he should.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:49:48 2019 No.22192912 What they are trying to achieve with Pandora? Why they have to butcher the other girls?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:50:18 2019 No.22192915 >>22192912 What even is Pandora?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:51:20 2019 No.22192918 >>22192915 the women ruin everything box

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:51:44 2019 No.22192919 >>22192915 Hope box

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:51:54 2019 No.22192920 >>22192910 George being bishonen works because he's meant to look like Mikiya Kokutou from Kara no Kyoukai. They share the same voice actor and you can tell obvious connections with Shiki. And, you know, Ryukishi being a big fan of nasu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:52:02 2019 No.22192921 IF THE ILLUMINATI ARE MEETING THROUGH VR DOES THAT MEAN ILLUMILAMBDA IS ACTUALLY JUST TAKANO PROJECTING A FAKE IMAGE OF HERSELF?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:52:19 2019 No.22192922 >>22192915 I don't know "what" it actually is, but it is Koshka

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:52:59 2019 No.22192924 >>22192918 >>22192919 Thanks Erika, I meant in Ciconia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:53:33 2019 No.22192926 why does no one disable clippy

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:54:22 2019 No.22192927

>>22192910
I don't like how they made Maria more expressive. Not even talking about her CGs, which are fucking garbage. I mean the main sprites. She was originally autism incarnate, but they made her look like a cute expressive loli and it changes your perception of the character dramatically even if the text remains the same.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:54:37 2019 No.22192928 >>22192926 The Illuminati probably created it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:54:38 2019 No.22192929 >>22192921 Don't think so. Takano works with nig-bernkastel, and nig-bern asks the glasses about the jester. Wouldn't make sense if they were one person.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:54:53 2019 No.22192932 >>22192921 No, because in the preview for the next episode you see Lambda with a gauntlet chasing someone

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:56:23 2019 No.22192936 File: 147 KB, 426x466, Tm_pc_cas.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how does this father a twink

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:57:16 2019 No.22192938 >>22192936 Why is Tomitake both muscular and fat at the same time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:57:52 2019 No.22192941 >tfw WW4 will destroy the world and it's all a butterfly effect from some dude dropping a coin in that phone booth near the orphanage of hell in a parallel universe This fucking series.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:58:26 2019 No.22192943 >>22192938 Drawing is hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:59:31 2019 No.22192944 >>22192938 In one of the Matsuribayashi fragments he said he hurt his eye somehow and now is only allowed to do desk work. But he keeps himself fit because he's a military man. He's a goofy dude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:59:32 2019 No.22192945 >>22192941 I'm going to lose it if this is actually the alternate world created by Bernkastel at the end of Higurashi where she save Miyo's parents from tragedy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 01:59:32 2019 No.22192946 >>22192938 beer

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:01:19 2019 No.22192954 File: 2.19 MB, 1274x715, 3738.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fouthreesome when

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:03:48 2019 No.22192964 >>22192945 We already saw that world in Saikoroshi, why would it come back? I guess Miyoko's fate in that world was never explained, but I doubt she'd grow up to get involved in military shit, let alone survive 100 years into the future.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:04:45 2019 No.22192966 Have I been tricked into reading BL, again?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:06:04 2019 No.22192969 >>22192966 Anon two gays having gay sex would be less gay than what we got.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:08:08 2019 No.22192974

Wait, so was Miyao born with this mental defect or did his brain get fucked up from some trauma?

Or maybe everyone secretly has a fucking alter and they get all get traumatized as children because it's necessary to develop parallel processing or whatever the fuck. Is that why Asuka's personality has apparently "changed" and now meows like a cringy chuuni 14 year old?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:08:49 2019 No.22192976 How long is phase 1? And will this be a typical set up a la higurashi/umineko? 4 question arcs and 4 answer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:09:42 2019 No.22192979 File: 157 KB, 238x252, Capture5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did Maya got molested at the party or did she die during the pandora operation before that? Or both?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:10:45 2019 No.22192981 >>22192979 Did Maya die the most humiliating death of any wtc character!?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:10:47 2019 No.22192982
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Reading back on some details, I was right. The Three Kings are not the main villains, they're merely larger rooks in the gameboard.
Notice that, just like George in Umineko and Irie, when Not-Tomitake's glasses blurs, he's being truthful. It's easier for humanity to accept that the Illuminati is out to destroy humanity to reduce their number out of some dumb ideology rather than God wanting to kill everyone out to win a gameboard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:11:40 2019 No.22192983 >>22192974 >Asuka's personality has apparently "changed" and now meows like a cringy chuuni 14 year old? Finland is just pretending to be retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:12:25 2019 No.22192986 >>22192974 apparently going through the training process fucks up your brain and is actually sought for since two personalities/brains are better at operating shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:14:58 2019 No.22192991 File: 1.52 MB, 1244x730, c10.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really hope there is no stupid anon who came here after finishing the game, but before reading the fragments.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:15:12 2019 No.22192993

>>22192982
>just like George in Umineko and Irie, when Not-Tomitake's glasses blurs, he's being truthful
Not necessarily. Every single time light reflects off George's glasses, he's saying something passive-aggressive. And when it happens to Irie, he's taking things seriously. It's not necessarily them being "truthful".

I wonder what this guy's glasses are really telling us. Maybe it means he's straight up lying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:15:17 2019 No.22192995 Jayden and Miyao will be the last 2 humans left alive

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:15:37 2019 No.22192997 >>22192976 It's around 20 hours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:17:06 2019 No.22193008 >>22192976 Not sure, but it was around 14-15 hours for me.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:18:23 2019 No.22193016
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>>22192993
Not always, George is always honest while being passive-aggressive, he's not always passive aggressive. Hell, I made that funny meme image years back showing his passive aggressiveness. He doesn't do it all the time, but it's very obvious that when he is passive-aggresive, his glasses fog up. I do agree with you that Irie is being serious but that's a mild different.
The point remains the same: not-Tomitake is being truthful/honest when his glasses fog up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:18:38 2019 No.22193018 >>22192981 If she actually got molested and then decided to participate in the experiment, it's fucking brutal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:21:15 2019 No.22193032 >>22193018 hot

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:22:23 2019 No.22193040

>>22192986
Fuck. So is Meow the one controlling the missiles and shit while Miyao flies around?

I have a friend with DID (not MPD) and from what I've seen it's quite easy for him to be co-conscious with one of his alters. Or just disappear entirely into the subconscious and let two of them take control or quietly observe things. But they almost never have three out at the same time because it strains the brain a lot and causes headaches.

Maybe the theory is right. They need kid's brains to develop in a certain way in order to split and then undergo extensive "training" to learn how to become co-conscious, which can be pretty difficult depending on the nature of the split. All so they can have good parallel processing and control the gauntlets properly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:22:43 2019 No.22193042 why are guns tits so long

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:22:47 2019 No.22193044 >>22192976 Finished it in 12 hours. They said it would be 4 phases. It doesn't seem it will be the same structure as the other works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:23:23 2019 No.22193047 >>22193032 I got excited at the thought too. And i feel like a piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:23:56 2019 No.22193053 >>22193042 Because it looks cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:25:09 2019 No.22193061 >>22193053 Chloe's tits are nice to look at. Gun's are just protruding.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:27:14 2019 No.22193068

>>22193044
I mean, even Higurashi and Umineko weren't the same in that regard. Higurashi had a super short arc 4 and basically needed arc 9 to finish Rika's character arc. I wouldn't consider the story finished with just Matsuribayashi.

Umineko has extra arcs too, but they are mostly side stories with little relevance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:28:21 2019 No.22193074 File: 836 KB, 1900x2476, the point of the gameboard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's insanely obvious. The only difference is that the Three Kings only want to reduce the number rather than bring it to zero.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:29:28 2019 No.22193077 >>22193061 She needed to compensate for having no ass. But that can be hot as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:30:27 2019 No.22193086 >>22193074 Eh? What is insanely obvious? It's not vague, they straight up telling you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:31:37 2019 No.22193095 >>22193086 I mean, in the context of the actual gameboard itself. I dunno, I've seen people wonder what is the goal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:32:46 2019 No.22193098 File: 901 KB, 1271x712, 4848.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22192895 theres something wrong with canadians dude

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:33:20 2019 No.22193101

>>22193074
So which countries are these kings from?

I hope these satanist illuminatis abduct Chloe, Gunhild and Asuka. And they get Alcasser'd for three days and three nights while not-Lambda films the whole thing before dumping their bodies in the middle of the road to Okinomiya.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:35:14 2019 No.22193111 File: 22 KB, 418x45, 1570257314454.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I'm going to want a uuuhhh

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:35:56 2019 No.22193118 >>22193101 The narration says that they wear gloves so you can't tell their skin color or race. And one of them talks about his granddaughter. So one of them is Rethabile's grandpa or maybe Takano's.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:36:05 2019 No.22193122 >>22193101 ...and then they get pandor'ed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:36:38 2019 No.22193127 you know the last time i wanted to titfuck a new wtc character they ended up being the murderer with a stuffed bra maybe my dick knows something

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:37:16 2019 No.22193130 >>22193118 >>22193101 You think they are actual kings, like kings of the countries, not meta kings?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:38:01 2019 No.22193138
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Ciconia is a gameboard about the extinction of the human race: how much can you remove that which promotes human survival. It's Ryukishi throwing literally everything he can think of to kill humanity. You got World War 4, loss of all nanomachines that keep every system operational, no clean air, the loss of all marine life and oceans which provides 2/3 of all oxygen, worldwide famine, nuclear winter, and eventually everyone having their IQ brought down to double digits. Those aren't good odds.
I'm all optimistic about the human spirit and all that, but is that even possible to win in such conditions?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:38:32 2019 No.22193139 I can't believe Ryukishi made a game based entirely around the human condition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:38:56 2019 No.22193142 >>22192945 >>22192964 It could be. Is there any mention of a huge dam near the Gifu stadium where the festival is taking place?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:39:34 2019 No.22193145 >>22193077 the rest of her frame is actually nice though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:40:16 2019 No.22193147 >>22193139 Chloe said that humans can't live without clothes. Pathetic bitch!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:41:17 2019 No.22193151 >>22193077 >no ass Then how does she poop? Does she just inject sugar directly into her blood so she doesn't have to eat?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:41:59 2019 No.22193156
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kanon and george are the culprits in all the games(including bern's game)
erika=kanon=yasu
kanon is a cute tomboy and battler love pussy

SHKANONTRICE 1BIT GOATS CANT DENY THIS!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:42:16 2019 No.22193159 >>22193151 nice joke, smartass

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:42:32 2019 No.22193161 >>22193151 gun is actually part of the illuminati and has evolved past such needs

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:45:00 2019 No.22193168

>>22193142
There was no "real" reference to Higurashi in Umineko. I mean, there were TONS of references, but no mention of the village itself existing in Ange's universe or anything. So I don't expect them to directly reference Umineko or Higurashi here beyond meta characters and name drops.

RGD was full of Higurashi references, though. Including one of the characters literally being born there. Speaking of that, is it already confirmed or denied whether Ciconia takes place in the RGD universe?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:46:52 2019 No.22193177 >>22193161 God I hope not. She might as well be a robot in that case. Lewdness requires shame and the patheticness of the human condition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:47:33 2019 No.22193182 >>22193168 There's a reference to Rosa bringing Maria to visit Hinamizawa. I think that's the only direct reference to the village.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:48:05 2019 No.22193185 >>22193182 What the hell, where? In Tsubasa or Hane maybe?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:49:11 2019 No.22193190 >>22193185 It might be in the manga, so trust that with a grain of salt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:51:11 2019 No.22193197 Discussion is pretty slow. But i guess only the nerds finished the game so soon.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:52:42 2019 No.22193202

>>22193168
Nina and Meryl were nice throwbacks to Higurashi, it was interesting to see past alternate history versions of "random Hinamizawa housewife" and "Miyoko's dead aunt" but I expected to see an alternate version of young Kinzo somewhere in the story.

Tomitake and not-Okonogi were references too, but those were obviously in your face.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:53:25 2019 No.22193206 >>22193197 faggot the last thread reached like 1050 replies

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:54:36 2019 No.22193209 >>22193206 And half of that was shitposting what got deleted by the jannies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:54:48 2019 No.22193212 >>22193197 I'm rereading Ciconia to get all the foreshadowing moments.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:55:38 2019 No.22193214 >>22193209 If so much shit got deleted then it would have gotten 1300 replies.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:55:57 2019 No.22193215

>>22193185
One of the Tsubasa/Hane tips had the revelation that Rosa's boyfriend is Akihito from Higurashi. It could be the same playboy in two separate worlds, but it could also mean he dumped Rena's slut mother after a few years of marriage. Fuck that bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 02:57:45 2019 No.22193225 >>22193212 >that one part near the beginning where Miyao talks about how he used to be scared of heights I don't know if it's foreshadowing for anything, but it sure looks suspicious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:00:58 2019 No.22193242 >>22193202 Wang is basically Kinzo except not a pussy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:01:47 2019 No.22193247 File: 1.32 MB, 1278x714, 267374.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my fondness for this girl has increased substantially from how she acted in her demo debut

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:02:01 2019 No.22193248 >>22193242 Except Kinzo won at life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:02:46 2019 No.22193252 >extended scene where cis white male is lectured at length about trans rights

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:03:52 2019 No.22193259 >>22193242 Do you mean george?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:05:18 2019 No.22193264 >>22193247 I just noticed she looks like Yukari from Higanbana. Cute!

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:12:54 2019 No.22193303

>>22193197
Not really much to discuss if I'm being honest. Everything that happens only happens in like a passing mention.

80% of the vn is talking about the walls of peace
10% of the vn is characters saying "Oh no X happened" followed by more walls of peace.
The last 10% is stuff actually happening only its in the background and characters are talking in selcom like nothing is actually happening.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:13:33 2019 No.22193304 File: 981 KB, 1277x714, 642348.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] witch hunt uncensored where

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:17:07 2019 No.22193319 >>22193303 You're missing the philosophy talks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:19:37 2019 No.22193331 File: 2.39 MB, 1276x714, the fate of miyao.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22193197 you wanna talk about foreshadowing anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:20:38 2019 No.22193336 >>22193331 Ryukishi is going to be ruthless, isn't he?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:20:39 2019 No.22193337 >>22193331 woops >>22193212

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:25:13 2019 No.22193348
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>>22193331
Dunno, I'm still at the beginning, trying to piece together everything, taking as many screenshots that might be of importance.
Got any ideas on who the four betrayers might be? I've yet to find any good evidence on who it might be. My money is on the Stan and Chloe, but I can't guess anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:30:42 2019 No.22193355 >>22193348 I was too focused trying to make any scenario lewd to shitpost with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:31:31 2019 No.22193360 Meow is being blackmailed or paid off to be a betrayer and she's hiding this from Miyao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:32:41 2019 No.22193367 File: 424 KB, 1920x1080, underground lab.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's rather interesting to pinpoint every time not-Tomitake's glasses fog and in which context.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:35:15 2019 No.22193376 How come Ooishi never got married? Is he redpilled?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:36:21 2019 No.22193378 >>22193376 Married to the job. You know how cops are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:36:22 2019 No.22193379 File: 803 KB, 1277x715, 849.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22193376 Why does Okonogi go around shitposting all day? These are things we will never know anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:36:26 2019 No.22193380 Maria's got an ass. She's so cute, and yet... and yet...!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:38:18 2019 No.22193387 >>22193348 >who the four betrayers might be? Stop, let me get this straight. Sweden and finland are not traitors, right? They just work with the military.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:38:24 2019 No.22193388 So, I haven't finished yet, but the 4 people infiltrated are probably Gunhild, Naima, Ishak and Andry (I guess?), right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:38:51 2019 No.22193390 >>22193376 Rena is LITERALLY (as opposed to figuratively) redpilled. That's why she's into the two lolis, K1 and kind of Mion too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:40:10 2019 No.22193395 >>22193367 If you're going to go back capturing moments like this make sure to get Miyao's mini orgasm with his sprite that only appeared for half a second.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:41:12 2019 No.22193399 Is Naima married to a 40 year old muslim with 10 other wives?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:41:34 2019 No.22193400 >>22193388 Go and read the vn first, you fucking idiot. What are you doing here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:43:03 2019 No.22193404 So what can Selcom do for porn?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:45:25 2019 No.22193409

>>22193404
Apparently not too much.
They specifically mention that you can get wet and they feel the warmth of the water.
But later one two characters shake hands, but it specifically says that their models dont really touch and they clip through each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:47:24 2019 No.22193416 >>22193404 you ever see those anime vr lapdancing webms?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:47:29 2019 No.22193417 Can't play it for now, for the people who have finished, how does it stack up compared to Ryu's other works? Do you like it?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:47:39 2019 No.22193419
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>>22193387
Gun is a brat that managed to crawl out of hell. While her hatred for what happened with Maya makes her an obvious choice for treachery, being obvious disqualifies her. She only hates what happened and it doesn't make her nihilistic or else she wouldn't even care for her sister. Without love it cannot be seen. With Ciconia, Ryukishi is taking a page out of Shakespeare that if you do not love, you are nihilistic.
Lija is a criminal as shown by one of the Fragments (I think it was fragment 14?) yet she choose life regardless of the risk and survived. That disqualifies her from betrayal. Same with Koshka.

>>22193390
Rena is nihilistic, so in your terms, she would be blackpilled rather than redpilled.

>>22193395
When does that happen again?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:47:45 2019 No.22193421 >>22193409 Arent't that just limitation of kizuna user hosted room? Perfect VR is possible. The explicitly said that military sims are very detailed.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:48:31 2019 No.22193424

Didn't they mention that selcom can only be used effectively if you have a high P3 level?

Does that mean it literally takes your consciousness away into a VR similar to the internal world of someone with DID so you need an alter to keep functioning IRL?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:49:41 2019 No.22193427 >>22193419 Rena literally got forcefed red pills at the mental hospital when she was 13.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:51:21 2019 No.22193428

>>22193421
Hm not sure.
Earlier on it acted like the kizuna rooms were just as realistic, like with the water and heat. Only later to decide that it might as well be VRChat.
R07 please explain the things that actually need clarification instead of other explaining pointless things 10 times over.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:52:14 2019 No.22193432

>>22193417
>"it's shit" says man who will continue playing it
I don't think anyone will argue that it has the weakest atmosphere of any of his other games. What actually happens in it and whether it's enjoyable depends on you. I enjoyed Higurashi the most and I liked the date and these fragments a lot.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:52:52 2019 No.22193434
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I think this scene references the dream sequence alt-Miyao shows Miyao. After everyone is killed, 'something' will harvest everyone in an endless grinder.
I wonder who 'they' are. Surely they're the enemy that want to eat humanity. I bet they're aliens.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:54:03 2019 No.22193439

So when can we expect the next part? If I remember correctly, Umineko and Higurashi had an episode written every 6 months. But Ryuukishi is apparently planning out the story from the beginning this time (he used to change things around to make it harder or easier depending on the theories he saw online). So maybe it will come out a bit faster?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:54:16 2019 No.22193440

>>22193432
I argue that it has the lowest lows. The worldbuilding is great but fuck me every time Miyao had to talk about his dumb naive idealism. Having every other character have pity and console him was just annoying, especially when they kept doing it like 6 times.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:55:21 2019 No.22193443

>>22193424
It uses the user brain for computation. If your brain cannot multitask, it cannot provide enough resources to make it work properly.
>>22193428
During the christmas party miyao hosted the room for 1000 people in his brain. They just didn't have enough processing power to simulate everything properly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:55:37 2019 No.22193445 >>22193439 Everything is planned from years ago according to interviews I've from 2013 to 2019. I'm sure Ryukishi will give out a statement as to when the next installment will come out within the week or so. Hopefully.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:56:54 2019 No.22193450 >>22193443 Ah, that's right. Forgot about the server being loaded and struggling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:57:39 2019 No.22193452 >>22193440 If you played Umineko again you will find the same kind of repetitive circular dialogue that you ignored for one reason or another.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 03:58:10 2019 No.22193455

>>22193434
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon_(Gnosticism)

They are archons. They feed on human suffering and trick people into going towards "the light" when they die by shapeshifting into their dead relatives and pretending to be them. That keeps humans trapped in a cicle of endless reincarnation, unable to ascend to higher dimensions and keep their knowledge.

DO NOT GO TOWARDS THE LIGHT. IT'S A TRAP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:00:07 2019 No.22193462 >>22193452 I've reread Umineko two times, last time wasn't more than a year ago. And not once did it feel as repetivive as this. Phase 1 was a chore to read.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:00:38 2019 No.22193463 >>22193443 How did Ryu come up with this stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:02:05 2019 No.22193468 >>22193463 Isn't it explained with 8MS being in the brain or something? The magical explanation for everything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:02:51 2019 No.22193471 So you can't have orgies in it but what if it's just with three or four people.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:03:56 2019 No.22193475
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The emphasis on 'knowing before someone else' really makes me think that the Witch's power is that of Omniscience. And it ties to probably the actual goal of the gameboard: can you change the sight of someone that sees everything at once, all the time, past, present, and future?

>>22193452
The pep talk everyone kept giving Miyao was annoying. I liked everything else but goddamn was that repetitive crap. It felt like patting filler.

>>22193455
Fuck. And they rule planets which also fits with them being aliens.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:04:46 2019 No.22193481 >>22193471 I'll be in a room alone with Chloe and I'll devote all my processing power to her lewd parts. I'll tease her at first by having the "feeling" setting low, and I'll gradually increase it. Then--I'll suddenly max it out. She'll lose her mind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:07:29 2019 No.22193490 File: 2.41 MB, 1274x711, 35737.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the possibilities are endless

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:08:06 2019 No.22193493 >>22193471 >you can't have orgies You can, you just need a dedicated server.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:09:58 2019 No.22193501 >>22193490 chloe's into boys love for wanting this btw

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:14:26 2019 No.22193512 >>22193501 >implying Chloe is into Otokonogi. She's too pure to be with anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:17:29 2019 No.22193516 >>22193168 >whether Ciconia takes place in the RGD universe? God I hope not. It sure looks like it, but it would mean Japanese animation as we know it never existed.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:19:08 2019 No.22193519
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What are 'political cards' but retained awareness of past, present, and future events that act as power because people are not aware of them? They're merely a placeholder for the power of omniscience.
This also ties with the fact that the Three Kings already plan out the future and the media only reports on it later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:20:48 2019 No.22193524 >>22193512 Like 4 of these fragments talk about Chloe's masturbation habits as the joke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:21:34 2019 No.22193526 >>22193524 Masturbation is pure. It's sexual self-sufficiency.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:24:41 2019 No.22193533 >>22193519 You are strong rereading this right away and not waiting like a month or two.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:30:00 2019 No.22193544

>>22193533
I am going line by line. There's also a lot of focus on 'predicting the future'. I'm unsure whether to call the opponent of Ciconia the Witch of Omniscience or the Witch of Foresight.
Could you win at chess against an opponent that knows all your future moves?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:31:22 2019 No.22193549 >>22193544 If you make a move that forces them to make a move you want, then perhaps? Only, how many times can you do that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:32:50 2019 No.22193552 >>22193526 Is it self-sufficiency when you're using someone else's avatar to aid you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:38:09 2019 No.22193562 >>22193544 >>22193549 Witch of Foreknowledge.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:41:50 2019 No.22193569 Still midway through reading Ciconia, but I feel so rushed when I see these threads filling up as I take my time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:43:03 2019 No.22193577 >>22193569 If it weren't for these threads, I probably wouldnt have read it all. Felt like a chore to read through.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:46:08 2019 No.22193587 >>22193577 I know that feel. Especially the gay parts. I wanted to drop it so hard. I have enjoyed the latter parts though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:47:11 2019 No.22193590 File: 262 KB, 299x328, Capture3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who else got peer-pressured to read ciconia?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:47:19 2019 No.22193592
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>>22193549
Could you even corner a person that sees it coming? What if they plan against that? The question isn't how many times can you do that but even if it's possible to do it even once.
If you know chess, the answer is rather simple and summarize Phase 1. In chess there are three general phases: The Opening, the Mid Game and the Endgame.

As not-Tomitake says, long time players know that openings are a ceremony, but they're more of a formality. Grandmasters for example play the first 10-20 moves within a single minute, because they know the lines. The mid-game is more challenging and it's where all the planning happens. But what I want to put focus is the Endgame itself. In chess, this involves very few pieces but, interesting, what makes the Endgame so fascinating is that every single movement has to be calculated in every possible variation. Imagine if you only have 4 pieces left. You have to calculate how every single action is the best possible move that leads to checkmate. Many of the most famous Endgame chess matches involve a foresight of a single well-calculated move that could not have been predicted yet wins the game by its sheer accuracy.

The point I want to make is that not-Tomitake and Seshat are rather lax in Phase 1. Hell, 3.5 billion died and they barely bat an eye. This is because they're waiting for the mid-game and then the endgame to make their move. When there will only be a few million people left on earth (or maybe even less), that's when foresight will be the hardest to implement.

>>22193562
Oh, I like that. I'll be using that from now on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:47:29 2019 No.22193594 >>22193587 It's the opposite for me. The latter parts are what felt like a drag to get through.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:50:35 2019 No.22193608

>>22193577
Yeah, a lot of the political talk seems to drag on and get very repetitive.
>>22193587
I didn't really mind the gay stuff. If anything, I enjoyed getting to see more character interactions, something this phase has been dearly lacking. Half the time it's just group meetings and war talk, with little actual development of the individual characters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:53:06 2019 No.22193616 >>22193594 >>22193608 I guess I just personally enjoy the scheming more.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:55:00 2019 No.22193620

>>22193608
In Umineko it only took about half an Episode before I knew everyone's name and a bit about them. But here even after spending an hour reading through all the bios on the pause menu, I still only know like half the characters several hours of gameplay later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:55:01 2019 No.22193621 TELL ME ABOUT PANDORA WHAT DID KOSHKA DO IN THE END OF THE GAME?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:56:02 2019 No.22193625 >>22193620 Are you bad with geography, anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:57:22 2019 No.22193630 >>22193620 >not calling the characters by their country.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:58:53 2019 No.22193634 >>22193620 I can excuse this because he's introducing all the characters at once and we'll gradually know them more with later episodes. Not having much of this episode devoted to character development doesn't help though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 04:59:43 2019 No.22193641 Ah fuck, I just realized, this element of foreknowledge is also thematically tied with Ciconia itself since all children have their ability analyzed from birth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:00:11 2019 No.22193642 >>22193634 This has been my major complaint so far. I don't mind shonen fights or even gay/trans stuff, but Ryukishi's best stuff has always been his characters, so it's a real shame to not have much focus on them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:01:36 2019 No.22193646 >>22193642 We'll probably get more by Phase 2, hopefully. RGD also started with mediocre characterization, with some characters barely getting anything.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:02:10 2019 No.22193649

I wonder how fast time passes in selcom/vr. Does it pass at the same rate as real life? Or is it faster? The date scene portrayed it as being faster since they'd have conversations in selcom between each sentence they spoke in real life, but I dont know how much of that is just typicl anime writing.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:06:08 2019 No.22193661
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I am 5-6 hours in and I think I hate this, with Higurashi/Seacats I could at least tell this is build up to when shit hits the fan.
So far this is hilariously gay (no seriously, the fuck Ryu07?) and characters are a mess, aside Glasses who is kinda cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:09:05 2019 No.22193669 >>22193661 Did you cross the streamer notice yet? There are a lot less gayshit after it. It's almost non-existent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:10:31 2019 No.22193671 >>22193669 The real reason the stream notice exists is because everything after it manages to be even less interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:13:02 2019 No.22193674 >>22193671 I disagree. It's the opposite for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:14:22 2019 No.22193678 >>22193674 Yeah the concensus so far seems to be either disliking the first half, or disliking the second half. Overall mediocre experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:15:04 2019 No.22193682 I actually liked the gay stuff more than the later stuff. At least it was fun.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:17:17 2019 No.22193689

>>22193669
Yeah, recently.
I like the meta players but the actual pieces are just bad to me, the MC is so bad it blows my mind, I remember complaining about Battler but he is 100000000000 times more appealing now. Also I might be crazy but I think Ryu's art got WORSE than better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:18:28 2019 No.22193694 >>22193689 >Also I might be crazy but I think Ryu's art got WORSE than better. Next you'll say that the Higurashi art was better than the Ciconia art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:20:12 2019 No.22193700 >>22193689 The expressions felt lacking at times in comparison to Umineko's sprites, but overall I found it much better. Outside of r07's art, those animate cg segments were a huge turn off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:21:01 2019 No.22193705 File: 1.72 MB, 1281x717, #.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It really does, doesn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:21:51 2019 No.22193711 >NO ZTS SOUNDTRACK This automatically makes Ciconia shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:24:08 2019 No.22193716 Also I want to add that I think this an interesting premise and gameboard, but DBZ gay teenagers are not exactly the most interesting vehicle for story.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:25:00 2019 No.22193721

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:25:13 2019 No.22193722 ZTS sold his soul to produce the masterpiece that is umineko soundtrack. His other works are straight up trash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:28:10 2019 No.22193732 >>22193721 Don't die, don't kill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:28:26 2019 No.22193736 >>22193716 Take solace in the fact that we have foreknowledge that the gays will fight to the death and all die.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:30:37 2019 No.22193744 >>22193736 But the biggest gays will survive till the end of the game 100%. And even the chinkwaifu got killed first.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:32:15 2019 No.22193750
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guys i solve umineko and now i solve ciconia

CICONIA IS A GAME BETWEEN 3 FACTIONS:

STONE AGE :they want destroy civilization
members:3 kings and 4 traitors
witch:unknow

STATUS QUO:want stop 4th world war
memebrs:all knights
witch:berkastel

EVOLUTION:want make civilization reachs god's level
member:LATO and the translators
witch:lamdabelta

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:35:25 2019 No.22193764 >>22193750 You think translators are not together with the nig-bernkastel? Then why does she know the wisdom artifact names (the numbers)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:36:15 2019 No.22193766 >>22193764 bernig or nigkastel

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:40:41 2019 No.22193781 File: 88 KB, 1280x1132, IMG_20191005_113839_671.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22193764 she know the the wisdom artifact but not how decipher it. bern can win if she decipher the numbers Third missing link 3^3 Muh i can see the light

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:42:23 2019 No.22193789 >>22193689 Really? I only played the demo, but, just from the fight with Jayden, Miyao felt like a more interesting character than Battler and Keiichi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:42:23 2019 No.22193790 Why are there fucking emotes in text? Why is this so gay? Has Ryu07 come out as gay or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:45:32 2019 No.22193798 >>22193781 What about artifact that starts with "1994"? There is more evidence that nigkastel is connected with translators than not-lamda right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:48:43 2019 No.22193806 >>22193750 In b4 stone age witch is both battler and beatrice basically doing this just too shit up bern and lambda's board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:53:07 2019 No.22193818 >>22193806 Meta Battler crashing the gameboard would be kinda awesome, for all the shit those little whores gave him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:53:28 2019 No.22193821 File: 191 KB, 326x310, c1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22193790 >Has Ryu07 come out as gay or something Wasn't that already obvious like years ago?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:54:24 2019 No.22193822 >>22193798 nigcastle is a spy she infiltrated the translators and the 3 kings. the 3 kings want ww4 for destroy the world the translators want ww4 for made civilization eveolve >>22193798 bern want stop ww4 >1994 send full number

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:58:05 2019 No.22193840 >>22192842 It's her hat. She has the same hat as Lambda's.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 05:59:13 2019 No.22193845 File: 837 KB, 960x2237, umineko dame secret.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A love that shizo ramblings and his broken english. It reminds me of pic related.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:10:15 2019 No.22193897 >>22192932 >preview for the next episode where is that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:11:18 2019 No.22193902 >>22193897 Have you tried playing the fucking game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:15:13 2019 No.22193921 >Stanisław out of the blue Że kurwa co proszę?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:16:01 2019 No.22193925 File: 99 KB, 395x109, ##.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22193705

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:17:16 2019 No.22193930 Saku when?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:17:17 2019 No.22193931 >>22193921 Speak english, you kerokero*.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:17:39 2019 No.22193935 >>22192361 Art imitates life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:19:23 2019 No.22193944 >>22193930 Saku will be about Meta Battler infiltrating Ciconia gameboard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:19:51 2019 No.22193949 >>22193845 george love big tits like his mother so he cant fall in love with yasu but can made a deal with him for kill everyone!!!! i know the true 19080630=23^35-17*4157 3^3=27 27 the same years of IT!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:23:57 2019 No.22193961 File: 15 KB, 477x111, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Ciconia in a nutshell

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:26:06 2019 No.22193971 File: 55 KB, 1030x373, my ass hurts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Ciconia in a nutshell

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:29:41 2019 No.22193984 Who do you think was the person psycho-Miyao declared that Miyao would feel compelled to kill once shown their image? I'm betting it's his mom/pseudo-Lambda.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:31:24 2019 No.22193997 >>22193455 Based /x/hizo anon!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:34:50 2019 No.22194010 Nooooo kerokerokero don't shooot poyooooo!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:35:22 2019 No.22194013 Who here rooting for the Kings?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:35:28 2019 No.22194015

Why do so many people think that Phase 2 will be a direct sequel, continuing the current gameboard/events where they off? Won't the gameboard just be reset with every installment like every other WTC? Was there an interview or something that I missed where the structure will be different?

I assume Phase 1 is Miyao trying to get everyone to play nice, resulting in the Bath Oath which fails spectacularly in the end. I'm guessing in Phase 2 the AOU will end up allying with one of the factions, and the gameboard will feature a 2v2 scenario.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:35:57 2019 No.22194019 >>22193984 >he has never seen her >she hides her face >she explicitly said that he was born to be her piece Makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:37:27 2019 No.22194024 >>22194015 But the first game is ongoing though. And the prophecy still didn't come true. He is yet to kill Koshka.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:37:30 2019 No.22194025 >>22193766 Berniggas

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:44:23 2019 No.22194053 Few hours in and I must commend how much accurate Finland’s autism is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:45:54 2019 No.22194057 >>22194053 Run, motherfucker. This is the last warning. Finland is just pretending to be retarded.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 06:47:05 2019 No.22194061
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Favorite single scenes? Obvious spoilers.

It wasn't until midnight on the doomsday clock when that crazed Takanohell researcher starts the earthquakes and then fucking kills himself that I truly became hooked. That character's attitude and overall bevhaior reminded me a lot of Kinzo, even though Mario seems to be relatively insignificant as he wasn't given the dignity of having a sprite or anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:06:19 2019 No.22194129 I bet someone is going to be an actually different person in real life compared to who they are in the VR room, or that one of the spies is one of the knights alternate personality

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:14:23 2019 No.22194164 We are yet to see the multiplepersonality shenanigans. Every second knight should have one. So far only miyao has came out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:18:25 2019 No.22194176 >>22194164 the only one thats mentioned as having it is the cairo squad yuri one

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:30:33 2019 No.22194204 File: 1.16 MB, 1274x714, VERY MANY.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WITCH HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNT

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:38:27 2019 No.22194228 >>22193902 not yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:40:58 2019 No.22194237 >>22194228 It was a rhetorical question. The preview was after the credits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:41:10 2019 No.22194240 i cant endure anymore when this game end i am at machine killing part pls tell me soon!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:45:23 2019 No.22194252 File: 109 KB, 1212x686, clock.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22194240 Do you remember the doomsday clock (pic related)? The game ends at 00:05.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:48:55 2019 No.22194261 >>22194204 'very many' is an extremely common phrasing though? witch hunt have some bad moments but i cant see this as one of them

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 07:57:39 2019 No.22194290 >>22193871 I hope it’s not a red herring and she’s actually lambda.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:04:48 2019 No.22194328 >>22194290 The is no way she is the actual lambda from umineko. I think she is the character what was created from the same archetype. Rika -> Bernkastel -> Bernigga (Seshat). Satoko -> Lamdadelta -> The Jester.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:06:17 2019 No.22194336 So is "muh Walls of Peace" going to be the meme for Ciconia shitposters the same way "muh shitty adults" was/is the meme for Persona 5 shitposters?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:06:49 2019 No.22194341 KILL JESTER

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:07:52 2019 No.22194345

>>22194328
Well, I don’t mean literally. I’m just hoping she’s lambda’s piece instead of just an archetype. Obviously there’s some weird shit going on considering the jestress and viers exist simultaneously, assuming they’re different characters of course.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:09:20 2019 No.22194351 File: 1.80 MB, 1280x719, Laughing HALAM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love this kebab.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:14:41 2019 No.22194379 >>22194341 but Jester is our friend

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:15:15 2019 No.22194381 >>22194351 I want her to bully me

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:16:12 2019 No.22194384 >>22193818 Honestly my thought from that is mostly cause 7 pieces for the stone age side, the seven deadly sins, which were pieces beato owned, so I thought maybe thone two are in the background screwing around.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:26:17 2019 No.22194425
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>>22193689
No way, dude. Miyao's idealism is a shitload better than Battler's WITCHES DON'T EXIIIIIIST especially right out the gate. It especially helps when a lot of the people supporting him don't actually mean it and he has the back in forth with his inner Bernkastel making him doubt things. It's not anything like Battler running into a brick wall over and over while we had to wait to get to the god tier scenes with him in the later episodes.

The only part of Miyao that I think is unnecessary is fucking Meow, not because I had a phobia against gays like /v/ does, but because she literally got more focus in the first 20% of the story before chapter 7 than Miyao himself did. I have no doubt that Miyao will get even better as the games proceed, but I feel like as is, Meow was a mistake and should've been tied to another character and kept away from the MC.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:30:10 2019 No.22194436 >>22194425 >should've been tied to another character and kept away from the MC I don't think that would have been possible. The main "plottwist" will revolve around Meow almost certainly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:30:30 2019 No.22194439 >Only just now noticed warcats emblem is a black cat holding a reaper scythe Holy shit I am dumb

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:37:02 2019 No.22194464 >>22194436 That's kind of why I'm saying "as is", because I'm obviously not going to rule out that Meow will be actually significant later on. But Meow could always not. Meow could sacrifice herself or something and have that be the end of it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:38:11 2019 No.22194468

>>22194425
Nah, battler’s adamant skepticism is a lot more entertaining than miyao’s naive idealism. Battle being smug to the servants in episode 1 because he thought their superstitions were just fairy tales instantly hooked me on him. Don’t get me wrong I like Miyao, but I like him for his general personality and demeanor. His ideals are just grating and are really only there to get stomped on by the reality of the world. He’s a 1bit. Thinking that love and friendship can solve everything shows a critical lack of understanding for how nuanced the world is. He is just a kid though so I can’t blame him too much. If he really wanted to cause change with his power he’d follow krushna’s example and just go kill politicians and warlords. Not a permanent fix by any means but it’s better than killing his friends for nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:39:55 2019 No.22194473 >>22194464 I think she will be one of the main antagonists or at least a collaborator.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:40:13 2019 No.22194475
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>>22194328
Wait so this Bernigga is Seshat? I am still in the beginning can you tell me about why is she related to Bern at all without too much spoilers?
I can't believe my theory about Bern was correct because of Featherine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:44:01 2019 No.22194483 I just got to Meow part and this is unbelievably gay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:45:00 2019 No.22194485 >>22194475 While Seshat description from the egyptian myths sounds just like Featherine, the character itself is more like Bernkastel. But not much is known honestly. We are just speculating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:47:29 2019 No.22194493 The interactions between the three kings and the Jestress reminds me of how Featherine doesn't mind being shit-talked. I wonder if they're friends of Auau

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:48:00 2019 No.22194494 >>22194485 Always thought as Featherine as Seshat related specially because of the title as a confirmation it wouldn't be too dumb of a theory. The other thing is the priests of Seshat dressing like leopards like being their cat mikos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:55:36 2019 No.22194526 This is so boring so far. It completely lacks of everything i like about r07

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 08:59:46 2019 No.22194537 >>22194526 Which part are you talking about? What do you like exactly? The first part is feels-before-reals gay propaganda. The second part is scheming and setting-up the stage for the battle of wits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:01:13 2019 No.22194544 >>22194537 >gay propaganda lmao imagine actually thinking this

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:02:30 2019 No.22194548 >>22194537 I like gay stuff though. I'm after the type-moon battle, they are giving way speeches.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:03:49 2019 No.22194552 >>22194537 >feels-before-reals Your beliefs probably aren't as grounded as you think they are. ALL value judgements are feels-before-reals.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:11:07 2019 No.22194585

>>22194544
I got the ryukishi argument, "gender doesn't matter as long as you love the person", and i even agree with it, but the way he conveys it feels like, i don't know, like he is trying to justify himself or something.
Not really sure what comes first there, "I'm gay, but it's okay because i really love the person" or "i really love the person and it doesn't matter if he is the same gender".
And don't really think that he is just exploring the problem itself, it feels more like he is forcing his opinion on you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:12:53 2019 No.22194593 >>22194526 At least like last 20% of it is somewhat reminiscent of wtc... If you survive through trannieshit and friendship magic rants, it will eventually become okay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:13:01 2019 No.22194594 >>22191823 I don't think there's been anything gay in this game actually. Miyao/Meow is either a girl or a literal murderbot3000

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:14:55 2019 No.22194601 >>22194585 >justify himself He's married with a kid The only person being justified in that scene is Jayden, and he's also being admonished for not taking Miyao's own feelings into account. It's kind of the exact opposite of what happened with Yasu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:17:18 2019 No.22194606 >>22194601 >He's married with a kid You can marry and have a kid while being gay/bisexual. Not an argument.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:19:02 2019 No.22194610 how long is phase 1? i cant for shit justify 40 bucks for something ill read in 2 days

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:20:04 2019 No.22194613 >>22194610 15 hours on average.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:20:09 2019 No.22194614

>>22194468
I only liked Battler as a foil to Beatrice and Erika. I honestly think he should have been explored more across all games. First four games he's all muh family. Last four he's all muh Beato's heart. And I'm fine with that cause it fits the story to some degree. But he's not one of the highlights of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:20:46 2019 No.22194615 >>22194613 yeah ok hell the fuck no torrents when

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:26:00 2019 No.22194638 >>22194061 Does anyone know what track plays in this scene?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:31:04 2019 No.22194652
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I downloaded the game from Nyaa and for some reason it starts with Japanese language and it's all fucked up, it errors and crashes after a few text lines like this and not even the cinematics seem to be working for me.

How do I fix it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:35:10 2019 No.22194668 File: 51 KB, 1219x682, buy game gaijin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22194652 BUY GAME, WAITO PIGU

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:37:05 2019 No.22194676 The way things have been going so far, if there's anyone that is going to end up riding Miyao's shota dick, it'll most likely be Lingje. Hopefully he gets an opportunity like that and it's not just completely overshadowed by Jayden and Meow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:37:17 2019 No.22194678 >>22194652 Try looking for the menu and there is something there saying to change to Engrish. >>22194668 >t. masuda

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:37:49 2019 No.22194680 >>22194676 I don't think Miyao's into necrophilia, but who knows, maybe he's hiding his fetishes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:38:00 2019 No.22194681 >>22194678 I can't even get to the menu, pressing esc just throws a bunch of nip lines at me and then it crashes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:38:16 2019 No.22194685 >>22194676 >if there's anyone that is going to end up riding Miyao's shota dick, it'll most likely be Lingje. I dunno, I feel like Miyao's creepy dad is currently the top contender for that

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:39:54 2019 No.22194696 >>22194680 Eh, she'll probably be alive again midway through the next game. Rose Guns did this too, where Season 1 didn't actually end until 1/4 of the way through Season 2.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:44:11 2019 No.22194721
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>>22194485
>>22194494
Can you in spoilers tell me what do you know until now about Seshat? I don't care about the spoilers I just don't want to speed read the VN I'm kinda hyped for this character.

>>22194681
Not that anon but can you try look for this:
>Ciconia.When.They.Cry.Phase.1.For.You.The.Replaceable.Ones-TiNYiSO

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 09:50:25 2019 No.22194759 >>22194721 Do you have a link to that? I'm only finding viruses and shit websites.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:00:49 2019 No.22194809
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>>22194759
Well if he had a virus for me it had to come from the installation but looks like a regular skidrow type of installation no other problems.
If you are having problems with the virus kind of pop up you have to keep trying to reach the torrent link until it actually gives you the magnet link. Websites telling you to give out any kind of information its all virus stuff.
I am not sure if I am permitted to just post the magnet myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:12:13 2019 No.22194875 File: 351 KB, 700x509, nnn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nice virus release bro. >>22194809 I'm pretty sure you can but unless it's another one, the tinyiso one just errors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:13:59 2019 No.22194884 >>22194875 Don't get it from your image why are you not using a proper directory?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:14:00 2019 No.22194885 This turned out to be even more scifi than I expected, and I thought it was handled quite well. Can't wait to find out what the blue people shit is all about

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:14:03 2019 No.22194886 >>22194875 Select a drive you doofus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:14:16 2019 No.22194888 I would kindly ask you to not spoonfeed the retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:17:37 2019 No.22194904 >>22194888 Trips of infinity is law Also call anon 1 bit instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:18:49 2019 No.22194913 Would you cast away your flesh for immortal life in VR paradise?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:21:46 2019 No.22194930 >>22194913 If the VR was so detailed that you couldn't tell the difference then it really wouldn't even matter. The real and the fake are the same at that point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:24:13 2019 No.22194948 >>22194930 the point was that there will be no scarcity or animal urges that give rise to conflict in VR, thus there will be no war

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:25:59 2019 No.22194957 >>22194888 >asking after they're done spoonfeeding him too late

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:35:08 2019 No.22194997 File: 3.76 MB, 1920x1080, 1570187123765.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Lingqi has no background flag >Naomi has these weird arrows are those hints or quality 07th programming

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:37:18 2019 No.22195003

19080630 = Tunguska Event

18721205 = Mary Celeste discovered abandoned

19940305 = ?

Also sounds like they want to put the Pandora 1000 years into the future through the door? Not sure how all the factions are connected yet

>>22194997
I noticed the arrows as well, thought it would clickable on the post game character screen but oh well

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:38:18 2019 No.22195007 >>22194997 the ACR I think also has the arrows Also the file version of the Ciconia exe is from 2016

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:47:53 2019 No.22195046 File: 325 KB, 1920x1080, right now.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All the gay shit was annoying but the end picked up the pace. I wonder why Lingji got the golden gauntlet though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:50:32 2019 No.22195060 Wait, so did Saku already come out too?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:51:14 2019 No.22195068 >>22195060 Yeah, no TL yet though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:54:14 2019 No.22195077 >This Order of the Public Bath shit I'm smiling like an idiot right now because I know this is going to end so horribly

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:54:25 2019 No.22195078 >>22195068 Dammit. I was hoping to buy a copy regardless. It just slipped my mind what with scrambling to read Ciconia. Now it looks like it's already sold out.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:57:39 2019 No.22195097
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>>22195007
LATO does
Also just noticed the absolute QUALITY transparency on the portraits, some have it (Stan, Lilja, Ishak, Miyao kinda), most don't, and part of Aysha's head is missing lul

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:01:20 2019 No.22195112 >>22195003 Damn. Nice job with finding out the events. This is way bigger in scale. Reminds me of a Pynchon novel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:11:41 2019 No.22195164 >>22195003 5th March 1994 - Singer Grace Slick arrested for pointing a gun at a cop

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:12:47 2019 No.22195168 >>22195164 A wonder worth translating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:16:43 2019 No.22195192 >>22195003 Translators have the box. Government has the pandora (koshka). But she is still not complete for some reason. And in the end they have to come together to perform the ritual to save the world?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:18:24 2019 No.22195206

Did anyone else think there was a lot of similarities to The Four Horsemen and The Seven Trumpets? Fits with the God theme going on.

>>22195003
I want to know what the third set of numbers is too. I spent a while looking into it when it popped up, and it's weird for it to suddenly break the pattern of dates, but it seems like it has to be something other than a date unless it's something original that Ryukishi came up with.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:19:55 2019 No.22195214

>>22195192
I mean I guess you could say that by sending her through the box they could basically skip the end of humanity and still have someone alive on the planet.
On the other hand it didn't seem like the Translators (besides 34 to some extent) could give fucks about anything, so why would they help them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:22:05 2019 No.22195223 >>22195206 Yeah, since it seems that the "timeline split" was in the B2W era, I'm assuming it might just be something new.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:22:18 2019 No.22195224 >'As long as one man and woman are left at the end humanity wins' >Only Miyao and Jayden survive

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:23:18 2019 No.22195229 >>22195223 >B2W I meant A2W/B3W of course

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:23:42 2019 No.22195232 >>22195214 But why the glasses wants her dead? Is she the ultimate weapon that will humanity? The Evil Miyao said that Miyao will kill chinkwaifu and koshka with his own hands. And chinkwaifu is dead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:24:44 2019 No.22195238 >>22195224 Plot twist >Only Miyao and Meow survive

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:26:15 2019 No.22195243 >>22195238 "Onii-chan, we have to repopulate the earth.... using only our own body"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:27:32 2019 No.22195252 File: 210 KB, 1280x720, all of our lips.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What did she mean by this

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:33:01 2019 No.22195271 >>22195252 You are so perverted, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:34:17 2019 No.22195273 >>22195224 Meow never did confirm what's under that skirt, did she?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:36:51 2019 No.22195283 >>22195273 The glassed called him "son" (息子 in japanese version) multiple times.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:39:46 2019 No.22195291

>>22195232
No idea how much Toujirou even knows about that Miyao program stuff. Though at least it looks like Koshka could have that role considering how much security is hidden around her.

About the other thing though, that opens another can of worms, since it's more like Toujirou, who controlled Miyao, and probably someone else, who had control to Lingjis gauntlet, killed her. Why they would do that I have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:41:32 2019 No.22195297 >>22195097 Rethabile has the classic missing pixels if you hover your mouse over her. Brought back some fond memories of the Umineko character screen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 11:58:14 2019 No.22195384 File: 711 KB, 1272x716, mystery3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hope you're all looking forward to Ronove, Bern and Willard with a ponytail to appear next episode

>>	07th expansion thread Sat Oct 5 12:02:17 2019 No.22195411 >>22195384 the middle lookalike but the hair is a bit different than Bern if you ask me

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:04:26 2019 No.22195423 File: 1.13 MB, 1920x1080, 1551001529264.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is depressing

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:05:56 2019 No.22195433 >>22195232 >But why the glasses wants her dead? Not necessary. Koshka went rogue in the end of the game. Miyao might be ordered to kill her by the government.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:12:54 2019 No.22195469 So you think we'll get some loops again or are they gonna roll with the already fucked up world till the end?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:18:58 2019 No.22195493 >>22195423 After playing the game that was rigged from the start on nightmare difficulty for years, Maya got molested by fat ugly old men and died in the hopeless experiment.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:22:56 2019 No.22195518
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>>22192807
I'd say it's certain.
Meow said she doesn't want to reveal it for Miyao's sake because she, herself doesn't mind saying it and doesn't have a problem about it.
So either Miyao is pure murderbot3000 and doesn't have genitalia or is a girl, otherwise he wouldn't have a problem with telling people he's a dude.

I affirm this with certainty.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:23:14 2019 No.22195519
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Finally finished it and I'm really not sure how I feel about Phase 1.

It definitely seems more like the kind of story you just follow than anything you actively try to solve yourself so far, kinda like Higurashi was. Not a big fan of that if I'm honest. With all the challenges R07 put out and those 4 moles they the Jestress teases early on I definitely expected a different game, something more akin to Umineko where you have certain pieces in certain events and need to try to make sense of it all and find the real masterminds.

It absolutely love the world he's building and most of the psychoanalysis segments are pretty interesting to think about, but what actually happens in Phase 1 is really really boring and almost exclusively setup. Then the second things finally start for real the credits roll. It's just extremely unsatisfying, Higurashi and Umineko both gave you a hell of a lot more plot to work with in their first Episodes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:25:51 2019 No.22195536 >>22195519 Umineko first episode was a snooze fest too.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:26:21 2019 No.22195540

>>22192807
I'd say it's pretty likely he has a vagina, simply because everything in the game is supposed to make you think he almost definitely has a cock.
We know biological genders will be extremely important since a girl and a boy surviving is the win condition, keeping Miyao's gender, and most of the cast's really, a secret makes predicting whether he survives, and who with him, a lot harder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:27:54 2019 No.22195546 chloe's massive fucking tits

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:29:44 2019 No.22195561
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>>22192904
Ah, I see, this is going to be a demonbane situation, isn't it?
We're going to keep getting resets until it works on the way whoever's resetting wants it to work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:29:50 2019 No.22195563 >>22195546 they probably became massive from masturbating her hairy pussy so much

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:40:51 2019 No.22195620

I'm already bored, the politic shit just isn't interesting. I want a proper mystery and the cast trying to solve it.
They were introducing a bunch of stuff that piqued my interest like shadow Miyao, the 1000 year fast forward time shutter thing, kings, the kings secret pawns, etc.
All the character scenes boil down to Jayden being a faggot, LGBT commentary, talking about MUH WORLD PEACE.
The only interesting interactions were at the beginning when Miyao fought Jayden, at the world piss event where everyone was being introduced, Kashka brain surgery, Miyao talking to his dad, Miyao talking to shadow Miyao, gunhild talking about her past life with her siblings.
Right now its back to POLITICS, MUH BATH TUB WORLD PEACE DISCUSSIONS, MORE POLITICS, EPIC BATTLES!!!

why did I pay $40 for this

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:44:16 2019 No.22195639 File: 366 KB, 1920x1080, 20191005124347_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:44:31 2019 No.22195643 >>22195620 >I want a proper mystery and the cast trying to solve it. This literally only ever happened in umineko and it was a red herring he dropped 4 episodes in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 12:57:10 2019 No.22195724 >>22195643 >expecting Uminekokeks to not be running their mouths about Ciconia not being a mystery like crazy in the coming weeks Literally the Persona 4 fags of this fanbase. The only difference being that Umineko itself is actually good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:05:19 2019 No.22195762 So is the Revelation of St Ioannis the same as The Book of Revelation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:11:18 2019 No.22195788 ciconia is a lot like darling in the franxx. was ryukishi inspired by it?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:13:50 2019 No.22195798

>The Revelation of Jesus Christ is communicated to John of Patmos through prophetic visions. (1:1–9)
Evil Miyao?
>The Throne of God appears, surrounded by twenty four thrones with Twenty-four elders seated in them. (4:1–5)
24 Gauntlet Knights
>There occurs a great earthquake where "the sun becomes black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon like blood" (6:12).
>Seven Trumpets shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:14:33 2019 No.22195803 >>22195762 Ioannis is just Greek John if I remember right, and Revelation was from John of Patmos. So yes that should be right

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:19:31 2019 No.22195826 Also Miyao is definitely a testtube baby as well, right? You can hear what sounds like pumps and lab equipment in that post-credit scene where his mother talks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:19:50 2019 No.22195830 Ryukishi would have done better if he just put these fragments in the story and shave off a few speeches everybody kept giving Miyao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:20:00 2019 No.22195832 >>22194328 >Satoko -> Lamdadelta -> The Jester. Wrong. Satako is unrelated to Lambda. In Umineko, Lambda is merely 'acting' like Satoko to get close to Bernkastel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:27:35 2019 No.22195853 >>22193750 That's a correct observation but the only problem is that chess has two sides rather than three.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:27:52 2019 No.22195856
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>>22194164
Gunhild has one, during the scene at the monster cafe she changes her personality completely while talking to the owner and a lot of what they say during that conversation points to her having one. Also at the end of the conversation this happens.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:27:54 2019 No.22195857 >>22193694 Higanbana is peak Ryukishi art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:29:28 2019 No.22195867 >>22195826 His mother might just be a maddo scientist talking to him in a lab. Miyao said he has no mother in on e of the fragments though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:32:02 2019 No.22195885 >>22195857 It's his best style, I'll agree on that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:34:07 2019 No.22195899 >>22193544 Witch of Destiny

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:35:06 2019 No.22195905 File: 316 KB, 1920x1080, 20191005084602_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Literally what the fuck did he mean by this? I thought it was weird how Meow kind of stopped having a role after dominating 3 scenes in a row

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:36:56 2019 No.22195917
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Any theories on this?
I'd be lying if I didn't immediately think of Umineko with the dawn colored light and Lambda/Bern when she mentioned "those two", but I feel like that wouldn't really make sense

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:38:46 2019 No.22195927 I got to streaming block on Jewtube, so far this is horrible, the gay date segment was horrible, felt like tumblr writing. Should I priate the rest (no way I am buying this for $40, Ryu can fuck off)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:39:59 2019 No.22195931 >>22195917 Why wouldn't it make any sense? They keep talking about bringing back missing players

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:41:48 2019 No.22195939 >>22195931 We already have Vier Dressig (Four Thirty in English, ie Lambda Delta). Unless that's just a different iteration of her or something dumb?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:43:51 2019 No.22195946 >>22195917 When does that take place again?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:44:04 2019 No.22195949 >>22195905 he just acts like he has multiple personalities because he doesnt want to admit that he is a huge faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:44:55 2019 No.22195951 >>22195939 34 doesn't mean Lambda Delta herself directly, it usually refers to characters who are either her pieces(Miyano) or have her patronage(Sayo). Vier is probably just one of her pieces.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:45:39 2019 No.22195957 File: 239 KB, 1920x1080, fate.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22195899 Fate is also mentioned a few times and this scene in particular hints at something more. Witch of Foreknowledge or Witch of Fate are probably my choices so far.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:46:34 2019 No.22195964

>>22195917
Seshat seems like she'd be the closest to a witch right now.
She obviously has absurd powers, the keropoyo installed in Miyao's head (possibly everyone else's as well) seem to report back to her, and the design fits.
Wouldn't surprise me if she was all buddybuddy with Lambda/Bern and wanted them to have some fun in this world after they were kicked out by someone else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:47:47 2019 No.22195971 >>22195964 Seshat isn't a witch, she's a God. By that I don't mean an actual God but the same sort of God as Hanyuu. She's also an alien.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:49:48 2019 No.22195981 >>22195971 Confirming my theory that this whole thing is pretty much based on that one old meme where the world is ruled by an increasingly silly secret group controlling the next one down until reaching either jews or a lovecraftian monstrosity

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:54:44 2019 No.22196012 >>22195927 You're in the pleb filter, most of the good stuff is after that

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 13:59:33 2019 No.22196037 [DELETED]

>>22195964
Oh, also, Shrine Gods also get their power in proportion to their influence and conspiracy influence. Hanyuu had Hinamizawa whiched allowed Rika to jump kakeras. Beatrice had the Rokkenjima massacre where mystery fans tried to solve it.
By view is that Seshat created the frog device which allows her to be everyone in reality rather than confined to a single catbox. The fact that the character tip says it's 'unsure if her unique appearance and appearance are real or just part of her avatar' suggests that it's both. Just as Hanyuu could only be seen by Rika, Seshat can probably be seen by any that has the frog software (which is basically the entire world).
I think I'm very close to cracking the code of Ciconia.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:01:22 2019 No.22196044

>>22195762
>>22195798
>>22195803
Actually, that's pretty interesting.
Seshat says there are 26 books that are canon in (what I assume is) their New Testament. But in our world, there are 27. And yes, St. Ioannis is the Greek version of John. So that's probably what they are holding.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:02:11 2019 No.22196046

>>22195964
>>22195981
>>22195964
Oh, also, Shrine Gods also get their power in proportion to their influence and conspiracy influence. Hanyuu had Hinamizawa whiched allowed Rika to jump kakeras. Beatrice had the Rokkenjima massacre where mystery fans tried to solve it. My view is that Seshat created the frog VR software (or had someone under her influence create it) which allows her to be seen by everyone in reality rather than confined to a single catbox. The fact that the character tip says it's 'unsure if her unique appearance and appearance are real or just part of her avatar' suggests that it's both. Just as Hanyuu could only be seen by Rika, Seshat can probably be seen by any that has the frog software (which is basically the entire world).
I think I'm very close to cracking the code of Ciconia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:08:40 2019 No.22196070 File: 426 KB, 1920x1080, nut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22193395 I think this is the same sprite

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:11:46 2019 No.22196079
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So, the three kings are just a bunch of goofs who don't know shit right?
The real war is between Tomikate, Sheshat and Takano. I don't know if I'll think of the jestress as Lambda for now, she feels too much like a red herring.

Honestly, i'll bet the traitor from the three kings on WarCat was Gunhild but she got fucked by a second traitor or Tomikate himself dealing with the scum.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:12:01 2019 No.22196081

Alright, so the path Miyao is going down now is going to lead to everybody getting sent to the processing factory in the future. The processed Miyao in that future VR reality is somehow sent back in time as a program to stop that from happening by erasing the present Miyao?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:13:35 2019 No.22196091 just solidified Chloe's position as the first character i got off to

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:15:41 2019 No.22196098

>>22196079
>The real war is between Tomikate, Sheshat and Takano.
Tomitake and Seshat are ''''supposedly'''' on the side of humanity, thereby they cannot be enemies. Though, in one scene, Seshat tells Tomitake not to betray her because it's clear that he still has feelings for Vieg.

>I don't know if I'll think of the jestress as Lambda for now, she feels too much like a red herring.
It's just a representative piece. Just like how Gannet and Lija are likely pieces of Bernkastel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:17:14 2019 No.22196106 The twist is going to be that there are no witches.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:17:18 2019 No.22196107
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>>22196037
Seshat being the Mistress of the House of Books which is the knowledge of the mankind in the internet cloud just like egyptians? The frog dont tell me its Ogdoad shenaningans.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:20:21 2019 No.22196117

>>22196081
The processing factor is likely the 'festival' that the alien Gods want to put all of humanity so that they can feast on everyone's flesh forever. It's metaphorical that humanity is being guided to their collective annihilation.

>>22196107
>Seshat being the Mistress of the House of Books which is the knowledge of the mankind in the internet cloud just like egyptians?
Yes. Exactly that. It's the battle between knowledge and foreknowledge. Seshat could represent the internet as a whole or just all of knowledge in whatever form it exists. If humanity dies, so does its knowledge.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:20:22 2019 No.22196118
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>>22196098
>Tomitake and Seshat are ''''supposedly'''' on the side of humanity, thereby they cannot be enemies.

Everyone is on the side of humanity except maybe Takano, just on their own way.
However, Tomikate implies that Takano has ascended past a piece, so she has probably managed to become a witch. >>22192765

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:21:31 2019 No.22196124 >>22193750 I don't think all knights belong in the same faction bud.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:22:01 2019 No.22196128 >>22194164 Don't forget Chloevil

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:23:26 2019 No.22196135 >>22194164 We see a lot of it from Ruhkshana though it seems to be more fluid in her case.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:23:57 2019 No.22196138

>>22196117
>The processing factor is likely the 'festival' that the alien Gods want to put all of humanity so that they can feast on everyone's flesh forever. It's metaphorical that humanity is being guided to their collective annihilation.
Yes, but it also overlaps with the 'oh boy don't you all just wish we lived in VR' talk the GKs have at Christmas, and seems to be something either Miyao or the 3 Kings existence bring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:23:58 2019 No.22196137 File: 2.17 MB, 1276x710, 37348.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22196128 at least shes open

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:25:23 2019 No.22196141

>>22192765
>>22196117
But isn't her horns also strong connection to remind us of Featherine? Maybe has a meaning not directly related to the Witch.
Also why does she look like fit and cool type easygoing whatever, to contrast with her being the opposite as a god?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:26:32 2019 No.22196145 >>22196141 >horns Those are ears.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:26:38 2019 No.22196148 >>22196141 I thought they were ears

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:27:30 2019 No.22196153 File: 464 KB, 487x437, smugrep.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright, whoever has this princess piece, please contact me on selcom, I'll trade my finest chess pieces for her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:30:06 2019 No.22196164 >>22195273 It's probably a vagina or nothing.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:30:20 2019 No.22196165

>>22196148
>>22196145
>The Seshat emblem is a hieroglyph representing the goddess Seshat in Ancient Egypt. As the emblem symbolizes this deity, it sits atop her head. The emblem was a long stem with a 7-petal flower on top and surmounted by a pair of horns; the archaic form had 7-petals (the vertical shaft as 8), (as a vertical, with two crossed lines-(4), as a 'star', and one horizontal-(2), giving 7+ the 1-vertical shaft), and surmounted by two enclosing sickle-shaped signs, two falcon-feathers on top.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:31:34 2019 No.22196171 "Certainty" is dropped so often that it might as well be a red herring. I still believe in 34 though.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:32:34 2019 No.22196174
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>>22195384
Well, phase 1 is for the replaceables, it's normal for Ryu07 to introduce more characters in the next parts, I thought the same when I saw those portraits, maybe bern isn't really in and Seshat is just Featherine.
I wonder if K1 will ever return one day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:34:52 2019 No.22196185 >>22196165 Say it in red if you are so sure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:35:57 2019 No.22196190 So does phase 1 refer to the lunar phase you see on the clock? There's 8 of them

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:36:15 2019 No.22196194 File: 164 KB, 1126x1200, bully cry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll give credit to ryu07, the whole Idea that classes are made to farm winners are something that never went through my head, that's an amazing viewpoint.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:37:14 2019 No.22196202 File: 381 KB, 547x303, 6246247.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22196194 ryukishi dropping hot viewpoints left and right

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:38:30 2019 No.22196206

>>22196194
>taking this trannyshit even the least bit seriously
Everyone knew that he was never the reason why Umineko was good for the first half, but this piece of shit game just proves it. 10 hours of nothing but political horseshit and gay propaganda with literally no pacing for $40.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:39:43 2019 No.22196209 Mario gave me Kinzo vibes

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:40:07 2019 No.22196212 >>22196194 I really liked the segment about the collective subconciousness naturally designating a few people to go against the majority as a fail-safe. Was pretty interesting to think about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:42:39 2019 No.22196225 >>22196209 On the subject of resemblances, not-Tomitake honestly reminded me most of the final boss chinaman in RGD, at least in terms of mannerism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:43:39 2019 No.22196231 How much more can Ryukishi make Gun suspicious. This is like Takano levels.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:44:05 2019 No.22196232 File: 187 KB, 566x181, give him the d.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They translated it like this on purpose, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:45:15 2019 No.22196239 >>22196232 Like half of the dialogue is straight up shitposting, so yes, probably.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:52:27 2019 No.22196271
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I just finished it, I was very disappointed by the soundtrack.
Guess it's my fault considering I was expecting something on the same level as seacats and higurashi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:53:35 2019 No.22196275 I can't believe that a Canadian did something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 14:53:46 2019 No.22196277 >>22195798 Also mentions a third of mankind dying, darkening a third of sun moon and stars etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:00:05 2019 No.22196304 >>22196271 At least Apocalypsis is great

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:01:33 2019 No.22196307 Is there anything interesting in the data fragments? I am glad Lingji is dead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:04:06 2019 No.22196322 >>22196307 Everything after and including sibling day seemed pretty important, and after you read them all you unlock a final one

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:08:00 2019 No.22196344 >>22196307 fuck you

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:09:03 2019 No.22196348 File: 339 KB, 1920x1080, ciconia_phase1_dep3Ujh6yA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22196307 Memes. Lots and lots of memes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:09:06 2019 No.22196349 >Satan is bound in the Abyss for a thousand years. Miyao is the anti-christ and they're going to put him in the time-capsule shaft for 1000 years

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:09:31 2019 No.22196353 File: 988 KB, 1278x714, 46849.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22196307 the fragments are very important

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:09:49 2019 No.22196357 >>22196344 Don't be so mean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:10:16 2019 No.22196363 File: 2.66 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot (2709).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So let me get this straight. He's stirring up war by falseflagging?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:10:58 2019 No.22196367 >>22196353 has anyone been in the arc.nsa s? is this some premade CG

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:14:21 2019 No.22196385 >>22196344 Meowkastel already told you that happens at the very start. It's not a spoiler, you're a fool for doubting them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:14:27 2019 No.22196386 >>22196367 I've unpacked them, but still need to finish before I properly explore everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:16:51 2019 No.22196401 >>22196385 Im mad that hes glad

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:18:35 2019 No.22196410 >>22196401 That's sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:18:37 2019 No.22196412 File: 76 KB, 402x108, magic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Okonogi is the game master. He can do magic because he has LOVE. Chloe and Okonogi make a good couple, better than the horrendous mess with catnoises and 外伝.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:19:16 2019 No.22196413 >>22196363 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:20:12 2019 No.22196420 >>22196363 It's controlled opposition when the scale is that big.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:23:06 2019 No.22196433 >>22196412 Where can you see those character files? I only have the ones for all the kids.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:23:53 2019 No.22196436 >International convention that's supposed to be happening in Latin America >Ryukishi just went out and took pictures of the interior of the Diet Building kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:24:52 2019 No.22196441 >>22196433 Archive->Character Tips After you finish reading the 16 data fragments.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:25:17 2019 No.22196442 Umineko would be 10x better if magic and love was removed and it would be an actual mystery about a family who is murdered by an unknown killer on the island while the player would somehow get tips like in higurashi and piece the story together

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:25:50 2019 No.22196443 >>22196441 Oh, all right. I've only gotten halfway through those so far. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:27:40 2019 No.22196457 >>22196442 based

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:32:54 2019 No.22196471

Read the TIPS, two questions:
1) WTF did end up happening to Maya, I was sure she was one of the subjects in the operation scene, then she was an escort, then it turns out I was right? Was the escort Maya just a troll?
2) I have no clue how will the story progress now that at least half the cast is dead - the usual WTC loop? If so, will we get a focus on another faction?
And a bit on the side, I wonder if the fact the Revelation is not canon in this world is significant - after all, R07 could've just used Revelation of Peter or the Book of Wisdom and would have to change nothing

also despite all the hints towards it I maintain that there's no way Chloe is the mole as she's too retarded for that, betting it's some kinda another program in Miyao (maybe even Meow for that nice dick punch)

>>22196436
I swear some of the Neo Akihabara sceneries are an European city I've been to

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:34:57 2019 No.22196483 File: 151 KB, 1024x683, 1024px-%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BB%D1%8C_-_panoramio_%2821%29.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22196436 There's also Kremlin in the middle of Tokyo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:37:07 2019 No.22196488 File: 1.59 MB, 1282x752, ciconia kremlin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22196483

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:39:26 2019 No.22196496 File: 1.78 MB, 640x720, supergenius-jayden.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:44:00 2019 No.22196509

>>22196442
I like the concept of Umineko, how all the magic scenes were hidden with symbolism as to what actually happened, but I just felt that Ryuukishi was bad at executing it. His sort of writing style just isn't suited toward subtlety. I still disagree, though, Umineko would be awful without the magic scenes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:44:45 2019 No.22196513 >Battler kept fighting to turn the chessboard over >Miyao just wants to get off the chessboard Battler had such luxurious meta-problems

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:49:31 2019 No.22196534 >>22196367 The reason I took a picture with the text over it is because the actual cg is too bright to make out anything. The added shade actually makes it lewder.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:51:07 2019 No.22196543

When they started noticing the intense stench and getting pimples/rashes after the 8MS failure it immediately made me think of that scene where Takano shows that dude the (flawed) eternal youth/immortality wisdom. The hanged researcher had similar symptoms, no? I'm guessing it's either directly been used on the kids or all of mankind as a 'preservative'.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:53:19 2019 No.22196549 >>22196543 Shadow Miyao already warned real Miyao of the brain drain effect, in isolation, yeah? 100% chance that it's been used.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:56:16 2019 No.22196560 >>22196471 Regarding 1: I think that was just to fuck with people yeah. Besides that, I didn't think Chloe was the AOU traitor. Pretty much looks like it's Gunhild unless there is fuckery involved again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:56:31 2019 No.22196563 >>22196534 no, I mean I want to know if the scene itself was pre rendered or if it's cobbled together from multiple images that might be in one of the .nsas

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 15:57:42 2019 No.22196570 >>22196471 >2) I have no clue how will the story progress now that at least half the cast is dead We still have seven billion more to go

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:12:06 2019 No.22196628 >>22196483 RGD had moulin rouge in Tokyo

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:16:24 2019 No.22196652 File: 182 KB, 1688x957, 1549904984265.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] finished the main game. are all the fragments unimportant? then i'll take my time with them. pic related confused me. was this a mistranslation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:16:29 2019 No.22196654 File: 123 KB, 485x720, DdM8N0k.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22195546 chloe's birthing hips

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:17:40 2019 No.22196663

Can someone who legitimately bought the game tell me if my copy is fucked?

The bgm folder has 33 audio files inside. 1 to 29 are numbered, and there are also five non-numbered tracks. However, the numbered tracks skip from 14 to 16. There is no 15.

Is my copy missing music or is it supposed to be that way?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:19:31 2019 No.22196674 >>22196663 I have 33 as well stop being schizo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:22:10 2019 No.22196687 >>22196652 You need to read all of the fragments in order to unlock fragment 16, which is important. Read 12-15 carefully, other ones are mostly memes or filler with some more details about the setting/tech.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:23:02 2019 No.22196692 >>22196654 Okonogi gets to chop this forehead every day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:25:53 2019 No.22196704 >>22196652 I understood that line as "a psycho personality like this never existed in me", but it could also be a hint about Meow or a mistranslation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:27:06 2019 No.22196712 >>22196442 no, the meta stuff is what made it special. ciconia is a bit too high concept though. it's hard to focus on the characters with a scale this big.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:27:11 2019 No.22196713 >>22196652 probably the translation since the parts where Miyao and Meow argued with eacother in front of other people had no reason to be faked

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:28:21 2019 No.22196721 Equipment = furniture. I bet Koshka has nothing down there on top of all the other terrible shit going on with her body.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:32:08 2019 No.22196733 >>22196712 Umineko had more characters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:33:55 2019 No.22196741 >>22196549 It'll only be used at a late stage of the game, probably Phase 3. This will be tragic because we'll see Supergenius become retarded act be incoherent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:34:50 2019 No.22196744 >Okonogi: "There's nothing I hate more than a girl's _____!" Why is he so gay?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:35:56 2019 No.22196749

>>22194164
naima clearly seems to have one that comes out during battles. stan and naomi even seem to know about it. she referrs to herself constantly, but they're both called naima, i wonder if in japanese they're written differently.

also is the three kings stuff and the vier underground lab even real? at some points i thought they might be metaphors similar to the metagame in umineko.

also as far as i understand "the end of humanity" is basically that meat factory scene where people get stripped down to their head and spine and digitalized.
i kinda agree with the prerelease anons that said this entire world might be a virtual reality created after WW3.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:37:18 2019 No.22196754

>>22196471
1- It's unsure whether she became an escort first or underwent the process first. Both options are shit.
2- the story will progress exactly as it was predicted: the end of the human race. 3.5 billion people died and the gameboard master intends on bringing it down to zero. There will be no loop. There's only one shot at victory: can humanity survive everything Ryukishi throws at it? Alt-Miyao predicted World War 4, loss of all nanomachines that keep every system operational, no clean air, the loss of all marine life and oceans which provides 2/3 of all oxygen, worldwide famine, nuclear winter, and eventually everyone having their IQ brought down to double digits. Those aren't good odds.
This is Noah's arc without an arc. Can humanity survive?
Tomitake even said that even a single couple survives, it's a victory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:44:27 2019 No.22196773 I keep hearing that Ciconia will only have 4 chapters in total. Is this people misunderstanding that the question and answer arc are separate games? r07 made a tweet saying there will be 4 games in total, he means the question arc will have 4 right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:46:36 2019 No.22196783 >>22196773 we dont know

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:46:50 2019 No.22196785 >>22196773 >r07 made a tweet saying there will be 4 games in total, he means the question arc will have 4 right? We don't really know, iirc it had somewhat of an ambiguous context.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:47:12 2019 No.22196786 >>22196773 Ryukishi said there will only be 4 phases. This is like RGD.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:49:47 2019 No.22196795
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There's an interesting contrast between a chessboard that requires precise movement against a die being cast which is random yet set in stone once it is cast. Your destiny is what you create, yet it is also based upon what talents you were born with. They're complementary yet also contradictory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:50:03 2019 No.22196797 File: 2.32 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot (2759).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22194164 I'm willing to bet Naima has one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:52:29 2019 No.22196808 https://twitter.com/enjoievan/status/1180341657109008385 kek

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:53:29 2019 No.22196811
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>>22196652
>ふざけるなッ！！　俺の中の新しい人格だっていうのかよ？！　そんなヤツはいないし、居たこともない！
Looks like the translation is correct. It is just as>>22196704 says: Miyao is like there is no way there is a new personality, psycho to boot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:55:39 2019 No.22196820 >>22196811 was wondering about that too, so Miyao is either a fag or a girl. Or it could be that the alternate personality is more combined than we think (which still would make him a fag.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:58:08 2019 No.22196832 >>22196820 More like Evil Miyao went through a backdoor or something and the current Miyao only recognize Meow as the only other personality out there.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 16:58:42 2019 No.22196835

So what if everything that is happening is just a giant simulation inside of a VR with all of humanity, and the end of WW3 was humanity getting processed into that horror segment. May explain why WW3 history was sealed off. The prophecy saying that would be the future is because everyone would be forced to wake up from the simulation. Since we're going with scifi setting I thought it would make more sense than magic this time. The goal of the 3 kings could be the evolution of society by letting it grow then reseting the board over and over.
speedreader theory

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:03:08 2019 No.22196862 >>22196835 Wasn't there some lines like 'no need to wake up yet' and 'sleep my dear Miyao' from his mom(?) as well? That fits well with the VR theory

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:11:50 2019 No.22196911 >they actually used the chapel from Umineko in this game, only without the metaworld sky in the background and a much better filter that's awesome

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:14:13 2019 No.22196930 I think I figured out the purpose of door. It sends you 1000 years in the future, right? Perhaps the conditions of victory is surviving Armageddon and then having someone pass through that door and still find humanity alive and kicking.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:16:25 2019 No.22196945

>>22196862
Yes, although I suppose that could be interpreted as his alternate personality waking up.
Also to add to this didn't he see his sister on the processing line? He and his sister could literally be two people in real life strapped into one body in VR world. In fact all soldiers with multiple personality could just be joined brains for more processing power.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:16:44 2019 No.22196947 >>22196304 Oh yeah, I've been listing to it for a while, also the way they used it on the game is great, it makes the song more iconic.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:19:34 2019 No.22196966 So what's the significance of the Gauntlet being on the left arm? Is it a Christian thing?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:20:25 2019 No.22196973

>>22196930
It might as well be another Book of Revelations thing.
>The Dragon is imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit for a thousand years. (20:1–3)
The Dragon is Satan. So maybe the one you send into the future is the one who would be responsible for ending humanity.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:22:41 2019 No.22196993

>>22196945
>Also to add to this didn't he see his sister on the processing line? He and his sister could literally be two people in real life strapped into one body in VR world
Yeah that's what I was thinking as well, though maybe it's just a thing with siblings considering his mother was also mushed right before them.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:23:27 2019 No.22196997

>>22196835
I also thought of that possibility. I'm also thinking "WW3" wasn't even nations vs nations, but aliens vs humanity and the aliens winning. In the VR/simulation they've designed, the aliens either cba or don't have the capacity to fill in all the gaps in human history and natural science so they have to bullshit stuff like 'all records of WW3 were destroyed on purpose' and 'why isn't everything irradiated and inhospitable? 8MS just works bro don't think about it'. This could also explain the slight discrepancies between Ciconia's B3W history and "actual" history without it strictly being a split timeline. The aliens didn't give enough of a shit to get all the facts straight, like how stuff at/beyond the boundaries of videogame environments doesn't actually have all the details filled in. Takano's group thus looks to reverse engineer the simulation, but I can't explain the Millennium Puzzle Boys with this theory.

My other theory is that the world ended and the dystopia is everyone in purgatory or hell infinitely reliving the end of the world. This kind of explains the Three Kings, they just want to accelerate things and hurry up to the next reset with more favorable conditions. Throwing humanity back to prehistory means there'll be a huge buffer before the next apocalypse. Don't know what Takano's group is doing in this scenario, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:24:11 2019 No.22197000 Continuing with the Revelation theme, would that make the main events of WTC5 The Great Tribulation? Lots of parallels here

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:25:11 2019 No.22197006

>>22196945
>Also to add to this didn't he see his sister on the processing line
it was his brother. although it could have been from meows perspective instead.

but following this idea, wasn't their father sent to the trash heap in that scene? it makes sense for families to not stay together in VR life but that makes me wonder what the ciconia motif is trying to say.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:34:41 2019 No.22197051 >>22196973 Maybe Miyao has to go through the door? Alt-Miyao said he was the cause for ending humanity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:41:15 2019 No.22197093 How did Gunhild have access to that classified info anyway? Who is she?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:46:05 2019 No.22197114

Something I noticed regarding the songs names.
The ending song of Higurashi (chapter 8) It's called Beyond the Sky and the song that plays at the end of Phase 1 of Ciconia (not the one on the credits) it's called Empty Sky.
It kind of makes me feel sad, Beyond the Sky it's beautiful song in both melody and lyrics.
Empty Sky just sounds ominous, the melody it's still pretty but it feel more somber like a choroes of angels singing in a beautiful chorus for the end of mankind, I don't know japanese so maybe the lyrics are positive and hopeful.
Does any of the Jap speaking anons know something about the lyrics of Empty Sky?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:49:53 2019 No.22197136 So uhh, when is DEEN going to make the anime.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:49:55 2019 No.22197138

>>22197093
She seems like some sort of big shot in the military. I'd guess she and Toujirou know each other somehow and either he helped her get up there or she did it by herself somehow.
She does keep talking about fighteing her way up from her shitty starting position.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:50:40 2019 No.22197144 >>22197136 Did Nips like the game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:51:37 2019 No.22197149 >>22197136 Hopefully never

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:52:11 2019 No.22197157 >>22197136 ufotable you mean when WTC6 is being developed, like with Umineko?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:56:04 2019 No.22197183

>>22197114
Actually, the song Empty Sky is from Haworthia.
It was pretty weird, hearing the song I've been playing on loop for a week leading up to Ciconia's release, suddenly play at the end of the game. I haven't listened to all of Haworthia yet, can see how it might share ideas with Ciconia.

Translation here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl2CQyyfZRY

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 17:59:28 2019 No.22197199 >>22197183 Oh I didn't knew that, thx for the info anon, I'll give it a listen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:02:51 2019 No.22197209 File: 158 KB, 350x455, hurude.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197183 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3SAOVdMBw What the FUCK is going on here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:04:43 2019 No.22197220 >>22197209 Oh wait, it's part of a story included with the songs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:08:23 2019 No.22197238 >>22196966 Devil hand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:09:48 2019 No.22197247 File: 293 KB, 1881x1059, 1543377736435.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so why did she change gauntlets in the final fight?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:11:58 2019 No.22197261 >>22196966 LHP Left Hand Path.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:13:15 2019 No.22197274 >>22196966 It's really big and clumbersome, so it's convenient to have it on the left hand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:17:14 2019 No.22197300 File: 305 KB, 1920x1080, 20191005181637_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] holy fucking shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:17:28 2019 No.22197303 File: 1.13 MB, 970x1440, chloe edit wip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Edit anon here. Here's a work in progress on my first Ciconia edit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:18:01 2019 No.22197306 Hey anons I'm extracting the sprites? Does anyone want a MEGA link?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:18:11 2019 No.22197308

>>22197138
Yes. Remember the scene where Miyao asks Jayden and Gunhild about starting a chivalric order and Grave Mole shows up? At the end of the scene, we're shown that among those characters, one of them is an informant for the Jestress. Then, we're shown that Toujirou has identical information and he finishes his conversation with whoever's informing him with an "I know, I love you". This itself isn't evidence that Gunhild is the informant for either or that the informant for the Jestress is even the same person as the informant for Toujirou. But Gunhild behaves way too suspiciously in general. In that scene, for instance, she fucking instantly leaks the chivalric order idea to Chloe without asking anyone beforehand. Really weird thing to do when the stakes are high treason.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:18:48 2019 No.22197315

>>22192378
>R07 hasn't been distasteful
I really wanted to believe this going in, but you are absolutely deluded. This is like early-2000s proto-SJW levels of pozzed, right down to citing the bogus "10% of the population is gay" shit.

How it was handled in Umineko was abstract and tasteful, so far 75% of this story has revolved around how not to trigger literally psychotic trannies with deadnames and cis-privilege. Its bad enough dealing with like 3 obviously Muslims in their stupid hijabs as well as literal African QUEEENs.

If this isn't all a big subversive setup , I'm going to have to give this shit a hard miss.

Also there has only been one decent music track so far.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:18:55 2019 No.22197316 >>22197306 Sure thing. I already extracted them, but I've been having issues uploading them to mega.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:20:08 2019 No.22197325 >>22197315 >This is like early-2000s proto-SJW levels of pozzed So, conservative by current standards? (I don't say this as a good thing)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:20:44 2019 No.22197328 >>22197306 Yes please!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:20:53 2019 No.22197329 >>22197308 That was my thought process as well yeah. On the other hand it's so obvious that it might be a misdirection.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:21:16 2019 No.22197334 >>22197315 To be fair, this is supposed to take place in the future. Ryukishi's basically predicting that this is what SJW culture would develop into.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:21:22 2019 No.22197335 >>22197300 shitposting bots

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:21:44 2019 No.22197339 >>22197315 >75% of this story has revolved around how not to trigger literally psychotic trannies with deadnames and cis-privilege imagine being so upset over gays that you think the whole Meow thing compromises more than 25% of even the early game

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:22:40 2019 No.22197345 File: 94 KB, 900x1272, 23821818_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197303 i love you anon

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:23:39 2019 No.22197354

>>22197315
>This is like early-2000s proto-SJW levels of pozzed,
Not him, but I disagree. Stan and the other dudes never condemned Jayden with the libido question, which would have been extremely awkward with trannyfags.
Stan's speech with same sex VS close relative couples pretty much demonstrate how Ryukishi is more about acceptation of different ideologies instead of painting the other side as bunch of backwards people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:23:40 2019 No.22197355 >>22197315 lmao dude the trigger warning wasn't even with the tranny, it was how the gay guy was treating the straight male personality. If you're going to seethe about something at least retain some details about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:24:51 2019 No.22197363 what was the deal with chloe asking lilja who she really is? what brought it up?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:26:01 2019 No.22197372 File: 429 KB, 437x720, gun_01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197345 I couldn't resist. I'll probably try and do a Gunhild one after.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:27:45 2019 No.22197379

>>22197325
Conservative in the sense that its trying to easy normal people (the Japanese younger demographic) into swallowing what is still considered blatant degeneracy over there. Which is why I compare it to the early 2000s in the west because its still not the "norm" for the target audience like it was for us in the west in the late 90s and early 2000s.
>>22197334
SJW is already like that in the west, so unless this is a setup to for a huge reversal its still cirngey as hell. It was literally painful to watch Jayden struggle to ask a normal fucking question like "does he had a dick and if so am I allowed to pass rather than smash or does that make me a shitord omg so sorry for asking such privileged ignorant question"
>>22197339
I am still in the early game, and obviously I am being melodramatic, but it does impress upon me as being a huge focal point of the story thus far.
>>22197354
This sounds like a lot of cope. I mean the guys didn't shit on him, but they were pressing the opinion that the "manly" thing to do is to accept the benis and pretend to like it.
>>22197355
I'm not seething, I just don't want to misrepresent how fucking gay this story is like a lot of people in the usual threads that keep going on about "tasteful".

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:28:28 2019 No.22197386 >>22197363 When did that happen again

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:28:35 2019 No.22197387 File: 156 KB, 263x272, 4343.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197315 I like the muslims, it's that fucking jewish kette that's the worst.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:30:31 2019 No.22197402
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>>22197315
Anon that's legitimately their society. He later says that anybody who speaks out is electrocuted by what has been implanted into everybody's brains and arrested. Also you're a fucking idiot if you believe 3 scenes is 75 percent of the fucking game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:32:09 2019 No.22197410 >>22197387 I like them, they're pretty based and yuripilled.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:32:25 2019 No.22197412

>>22197387
Actually I was gonna say the same. At least the Muslim girls are modest and against degeneracy, but the Jewish kette are going full "pozz the Goyim"
>>22197402
Hey no need to get huffy, I said like 3 times if this is a set-up for a reversal it will keep my interest. I am still early in the game and wanted some discussion before I get father than 3-4 hours in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:32:59 2019 No.22197421 File: 1.98 MB, 1274x718, 3748.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197387 why are you so heartless anon?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:34:49 2019 No.22197439
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>>22197402
Hell, Ryukishi literally calls out SJW mentality in one of the first scenes, pointing out the hypocrisy of preaching about diversity and protecting minorities, yet being unable to tolerate differing opinions and ganging up on dissenters of the common belief.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:34:59 2019 No.22197442 File: 1.69 MB, 1277x713, 62479.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197412 you are not worthy of God's love anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:35:00 2019 No.22197441 >>22197421 Leah is honestly a qt. I keep reading all her lines in Yuuki Aoi's voice.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:38:34 2019 No.22197463

>>22197439
this is a lot of cope. He is basically taking an "le enlightened centrist" stance and it was in regards to military force. Sometimes 1 or 0 IS correct or incorrect and trying to hold onto both truths at once is inflicting yourself with intentional cognitive dissonance for the sake of intellectual smugness.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:39:00 2019 No.22197468

>>22197379
>but they were pressing the opinion that the "manly" thing to do is to accept the benis and pretend to like it.
That was mainly Momotake because "muh samurai soul". Ishak and adbou were like "well, you have a 50/50 chance dude, so go for it". Hell, they even acknowledged that Jayden could get severely mentally damaged if he didn't prepare himself for the other 50. Do you really think SJW would even call that a "problem"? That scene was incedibly transparent when it came to Jayden's situation and what it means to date Meow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:39:38 2019 No.22197472 >>22197421 He can't take the heat

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:40:01 2019 No.22197473 File: 51 KB, 700x720, 11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197316 >>22197328 Ok here you have them anons, I also added the images from the character tips. https://mega.nz/#!n8wFwQ7T!YlROkZui9XA6AY1ccVp6wVicxaXgOduBiXgiuL8fNxk

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:41:40 2019 No.22197484 >>22197463 This is a story about worldwide relationships staring characters from several different nations. Saying that one culture or way of thinking is inherently superior would be a pretty shit way to handle things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:43:46 2019 No.22197494 >>22197363 One of the tips shows shows that Lija is faking that she is friends with Koshka So maybe Gun told Chloe about it or she figured out by herself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:43:59 2019 No.22197495 File: 427 KB, 437x720, gun_05.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22193042 I'm more put off by how lopsided they are. I get that it's supposed to be her body at an angle, but it makes it look like one breast is way bigger than the other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:44:10 2019 No.22197497 File: 89 KB, 185x198, vier grin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197473 Incredibly based, thank you so much

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:44:33 2019 No.22197503 if we have to talk about polshit then i have to say: ciconia has been surprisingly topical. especially how it shows radicalization through demagoguery and misinformation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:45:50 2019 No.22197512 >>22197503 I just wish there was less social commentary and more story.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:47:20 2019 No.22197519

>>22197468
That's a lot of cope and rationalization just to pretend R09 is trying to"own the libs". Obviously a Japanese man who only speaks fluent Japanese and grew up without all this SJW culture is not going to word things in a way that is 110% Tumblr kosher, but that is a far cry from acting like an intentional slight against normalizing homosex and mental illness.
>>22197512
This. Way to heavy handed. Higurashi and Umineko showed rather than told.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:54:57 2019 No.22197541 >>22197512 i agree. but it is somewhat required with ths kind of setting i guess. he didn't have to explain the entire world in his previous works. hopefully it gets better from here on out.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:55:51 2019 No.22197543
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I like how the TIPS give a lot more insight into the actual lived dystopia that is the setting. Of course it can pretty easily be gleaned from the main text but all the lab-grown babby permanent underclass brave new world shit is bonkers and I hope it gets explored way more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:56:19 2019 No.22197545 >>22197473 Was the sprite of Jestress without the mask not included?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:57:23 2019 No.22197550 >>22197541 >is somewhat required with ths kind of setting i guess I mean, he chose the setting so if he wrote himself into that corner its still a fault. Hoping it improves but upending the seemingly "utopian" society.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:57:25 2019 No.22197552 File: 587 KB, 568x720, ene_cg02a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197247 Wait a second, that gauntlet.... I think is the same kind as pic related All of those mysterious shiny girls have the same model of Gauntlet.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 18:58:28 2019 No.22197556

>>22197519
>Higurashi and Umineko showed rather than told.
I think that part of the problem is that the setting is too removed from reality. The amount of exposition that needs to be done to make everything work is absurd. I don't think Ryukishi thought enought about it.
He just thought an scene that worked in the setting, then realised that no one expect him know all the background, nuance and context to make it work. As a result we have something like this: B happens. This means X, because Y and Z. In contrast with W. This is how A is usually done. So B, in this context, is funny. Now laugh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:00:37 2019 No.22197566 >>22197556 Didn't he learn this lesson from RGD? This basically feels a lot like "This is how I REALLY wanted to tell the story of RGD." So far, this feels less like an official Naku Koro Ni capered to Higanbana which honestly should have been.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:01:19 2019 No.22197570 >>22197552 yeah, and i'm pretty sure she had her normal gauntlet before they sortied. no idea what this means though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:03:31 2019 No.22197583 File: 148 KB, 526x720, tou_04.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197552 Sure is

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:05:30 2019 No.22197592 [SPOILER]

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>>22197545
That sprite is only part of a background I think, here you have the file anon. I couldn't find it on the sprite section, I think you can only find it on the backgrounds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:06:45 2019 No.22197601 File: 369 KB, 529x720, miy_b19k.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197545 Instead you can slap it on whoever you want.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:07:20 2019 No.22197605 >>22197601 That's a nice looking hand

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:08:31 2019 No.22197610 >>22197545 I think it is also missing dead chinese girl with the golden guantelete and blood covered versions of Kos and Miyao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:11:25 2019 No.22197623 File: 445 KB, 1920x1080, 20191005185933_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Lingji knows Miyao has a girl inside him but she's still going after his dick anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:12:51 2019 No.22197631 >>22197623 Quiet shitlord, acknowledging that multiples share a physical body and treating them any different is literally Hitler!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:14:16 2019 No.22197640 >>22197592 That's a shame. I was realling hoping she would have a couple full sprites. Jestress best girl. Thanks though. Will you be uploading all the backgrounds?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:16:00 2019 No.22197645 ok but what about >>22196353

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:17:55 2019 No.22197653
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Someone tell me how I feel about this game
I never felt this blueballed by Ryukishi before
The world is so cool and the mysteries interesting, but it just didn't give you anywhere near enough anything to really even try to come up with good theories

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:19:50 2019 No.22197662 File: 495 KB, 427x720, okonogi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:20:29 2019 No.22197667 >>22197653 To be fair, that's how Umineko felt the first Chapter with all the literal magic and witches flying around. And Higurashi's Onikakushi 100% impossible IMO.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:23:01 2019 No.22197672 File: 59 KB, 289x295, kero.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197601 Good idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:23:23 2019 No.22197673 >>22197662 so, what IS his endgame? And I don't mean as Instructor, I mean as THE Okonogi, piece of the Higurashi gameboard and outside actor of the Umineko gameboard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:24:44 2019 No.22197679 File: 691 KB, 1280x720, tips141.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197640 >Will you be uploading all the backgrounds? I'm already doing it, but It might take a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:27:12 2019 No.22197689 What the fuck, there's like 20 Higurashi games. I thought it was like Umineko with 4 question and 4 answer episodes

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:27:31 2019 No.22197692 >>22197463 >He is basically taking an "le enlightened centrist" stance and it was in regards to military force later on there's a 'people who dont take sides BAD' quote as a chapter opener though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:28:43 2019 No.22197699 >>22197689 Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:29:05 2019 No.22197702 File: 444 KB, 671x720, ret_gun.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:29:28 2019 No.22197704 >>22197692 He is unable to fully commit to radical centrism because that wouldn't be the centrist thing to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:29:40 2019 No.22197705 >>22197702 Pop. Pop. Until they drop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:30:02 2019 No.22197708 >>22197519 >This. Way to heavy handed. Higurashi and Umineko showed rather than told. Higurashi took place in a small village, Umineko on an island. This story takes place on a global scale, you can't really compare them in this regard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:30:13 2019 No.22197710 >Ciconia-born but abandoned so you have literally no one in life Gotta be Chloe

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:30:17 2019 No.22197712 >>22197702 around black never relax

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:31:23 2019 No.22197718 >>22197710 I want to make Chloe-born babies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:32:06 2019 No.22197721 >>22197692 >>22197704 I am starting to think R09 might have a couple extra personalities of his own knocking around up there. >>22197708 Who decided to write the next official WTC with a global scale story?.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:33:06 2019 No.22197724 >>22197653 well, it would suck if it was too easy. i think there is a lot to chew on but for example the AOU traitor might be possible to pin down if people tried hard enough, just based on the few times where information was leaked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:33:52 2019 No.22197729 >>22197708 Well maybe instead of devoting most of the episode to VR shenanigans and WALLS OF PEACE, he should have devoted that time to actually fleshing out the world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:33:57 2019 No.22197731 File: 93 KB, 548x282, birthing hips.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197718 get in line

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:34:15 2019 No.22197734

>>22197667
>with all the literal magic and witches flying around
EP1 literally had no witches at all until the Tea Party, it had far less to go off of than Ciconia does.

The main difference between Umineko and Ciconia is that people didn't fucking get into Umineko until after EP2 at the earliest, and plenty of people only touched the series within the last 8 years since Umineko ended, and you see these people bitching about how the first part of Ciconia doesn't cover the breadth of 8 games/1.2 million words that they binge read one summer.

It's all so tiresome.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:34:37 2019 No.22197736 >>22194351 I love how samurai guy just came on screen with his face in pure pain for like half a second after that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:35:26 2019 No.22197740 >>22197729 >he should have devoted that time to actually fleshing out the world. Given how this first game talked about fucking taxes at one point I find you to be a complete idiot

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:35:34 2019 No.22197741 >>22194351 iraq and saudi arabia have the cutest girls

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:36:09 2019 No.22197747 >>22197724 It's pretty obvious that's Gunhild. When Ryukishi actually attempts to hint at something it's always really obvious. He's a lot of things, but subtle is definitely not one of them.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:36:44 2019 No.22197751

>>22197734
Speak for yourself, man. I was hooked on Umineko from the very first scene with Kinzo and Nanjo. Then again, I didn't really play it with any weird expectations. I just read it like a normal story, like how I read Higurashi. That probably makes me a goat, but whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:36:52 2019 No.22197752 >>22194585 Are you retarded? Right after that he goes on to say that we shouldn't criticize different cultures and religions because they aren't accepting of gay shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:37:51 2019 No.22197758 File: 299 KB, 768x256, 1541802073152.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197379 >>22197463 he is just creating an accurate depiction of modern day america set in the future

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:37:59 2019 No.22197761 >>22197747 >subtle is definitely not one of them. Its a big problem with a lot of INFP writers. Self inserts and subtlety issues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:38:10 2019 No.22197762 >>22197740 Ciconia's version of fleshing out the world is to just list off tons of shit in passing and hope it sticks. Might as well have not even bothered and just left all the world building in TIPS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:38:30 2019 No.22197763 >>22197752 If you haven't noticed most people that are fixated on the tranny shit aren't very smart

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:40:59 2019 No.22197773 File: 45 KB, 1017x302, 1569724857938.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197747 >It's pretty obvious that's Gunhild sure, but based on what? where's your proofs, son?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:42:59 2019 No.22197780 >>22197662 >Stan's gauntlet How will Stan ever recover?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:44:01 2019 No.22197783 File: 1.18 MB, 1280x720, image03.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197640 Here you have the backgrounds anon. https://mega.nz/#!fkpACIYI!Bdh1LsBtQR2h6hfxQWU9zTnYq33EGCsjMCDh70oqbfw

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:45:26 2019 No.22197790

>>22194585
Completely agree. Its like he can't figure out what he is even trying to say. I actually like BL and Yuri when done a certain way, but its always in the vein of "we are two normal people that have developed feelings that transcend issues of sexual attraction."

I feel like R09 had a similar mindset for a while, but this is the first of his works where he turns around in the same breathe and says debunked nonsense like "10% of the population are homos and that's fine, and some girls think its a purer form of love"

No, being a homo means you have an insatiable attraction to the same sex, just as you would if you were straight with the opposite (if not more so if we go by STD and sexual partner data) so if anything being a homo and hooking up with the same sex is exactly the opposite of liking someone for more than physical reasons.

The we get into the downright retarded mindset of tip-towing around schizophrenia and pretending like the body has absolutely no relation to the "personalities" inside of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:45:40 2019 No.22197791 >>22197747 I don't know, with how blatantly suspect everything Gun says and does is it definitely feels like a gigantic red herring to me. Like she's constantly musing to herself about how the world should just end, it's way too on your nose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:47:29 2019 No.22197799 >>22197780 There was no way he could have known the Okonogi Karate Chop™ can penetrate rejection shields. The fight was unfair from the start.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:49:32 2019 No.22197805 >>22197790 >some girls think its a purer form of love >nonsense He was talking about fujos you idiot

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:49:54 2019 No.22197806

>>22197758
I hope you are being ironic, because there is no way a 40+ year old Japanese man who only speaks Japanese and has only ever lived in Japan is going to be tuned into the subtleties of western SJWisms outside of what generally trickles in through Japanese twitter and the growing LGBT movement in Tokyo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:50:36 2019 No.22197811 >>22197790 you need stop being so damn triggered. especially since i feel like a lot of the story is set up like this for mystery reasons, especially the multiple personalities thing.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:51:10 2019 No.22197813

>>22197762
>in passing
You could feel this way about some of the scenes Tojiro was in and be justified since those were often disconnected and felt like they could belong in TIPs, but acting like this somehow applies to all the worldbuilding in the game is utterly stupid, especially in light of things like how the full rundown of 8MS comes at the point in the story where the factions are going to the specialists trying to figure out what the hell they even are and how long it would take to fix them.

Even Miyao's CPP shit didn't happen in passing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:51:27 2019 No.22197814 >>22197805 and? ???? I never said he wasn't talking about fujos, but everything I said still stands. Fujos don't like "BL about fags being fags". They like their ships to be otherwise normal, average men.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:52:19 2019 No.22197817 >>22197811 He's been spamming basically the same shit all day on other boards as well, calling him R09 the entire time. Some people just have weird ideas of a good time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:53:31 2019 No.22197821 >>22197811 Not that anon, but I think you're right, having those scenes with Jayden and Meow I think is better than having an info dump, it also makes it easier to understand how it works with examples. Also some of those scenes are pretty funny

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:54:03 2019 No.22197826 File: 311 KB, 396x340, 1570234146366.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Uminekucks skipped out on Day 1 but were all set to go by Day 2

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:56:28 2019 No.22197835

>>22197817
weird ideas about not having my preferred media just being tumblr bait, sure. If anything you are just showing how you are just content policing any thread on Ciconia on homo-damage control, and probably a janny/mod with IP access, a discord server and a dilation schedule.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:57:27 2019 No.22197836 File: 297 KB, 1920x1080, 20191005165657_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197813 speaking of this part was gold ngl this invoked my own feelings about my own STEM field

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 19:58:30 2019 No.22197841 >>22197835 literally the most 1bit post in this thread

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:00:28 2019 No.22197855 >>22197841 >I used the new buzzword! cope. At least go back to using Goat for opinions you don't like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:01:31 2019 No.22197858 Imagine being one of the fags that gave Ciconia an 8-10 rating. Imagine being one of the fags that gave Ciconia a 1-5 rating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:02:21 2019 No.22197863 obituary for my nigga mario

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:03:31 2019 No.22197867 >>22197855 >cope umm have sex

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:03:40 2019 No.22197869 >>22197848 damn, he really doesn't like online detractors, does he? I hope he doesn't go full JK Rowling. >>22197858 Imagine being an insufferable centrist zoomer, perpetually shrouded in a comfortable amount of irony.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:03:53 2019 No.22197871 >>22197855 >I used the old buzzword! I'll give you a modicum of respect once you've reached the point where anyone that disagrees with you isn't automatically labeled a tranny, but until then you get absolutely nothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:03:57 2019 No.22197872 >>22197863 Most based character so far

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:04:28 2019 No.22197876 >>22197858 imagine give a story that's only 1/4 (or maybe 1/8) done a rating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:05:23 2019 No.22197879 >>22197512 Yeah, the focus this time around has shifted from character psychology to group dynamics and sci-fi worldbuilding. I enjoy seeing Ryukishi exploring new modes of storytelling, but I wish we got more insightful character interactions.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:05:46 2019 No.22197882

All the Ciconia discussion has made me think back on Umineko and, man, the twist at the end with Ikuko and Tohya has got to be one of my favorite 'plot twists' of all time. The way that it makes you look back on everything that you read in a different light while also concluding everything was just so great. People give episode 8 a lot of shit, but I'll always defend the very ending of Umineko.

Hard for me to think that Ciconia will top that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:06:10 2019 No.22197885 Everyone posting needs a dose of that shit they hit Naima or Ruhki with

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:07:21 2019 No.22197891 >>22197885 That's pretty rude wowowowowowowow

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:07:47 2019 No.22197894 Heavy Devilman vibes from Jayden at the end. Imagine collaborating with Takano just so you can fuck your boyfriend's pussy with 100% certainty at the end of the world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:08:09 2019 No.22197896 >>22197882 I'm not really looking for Ciconia to top Umineko, I'm looking for it to tell a story that's virtually nothing like it and piss off a bunch of people with worthless outlooks on things in the process. So far it's doing both pretty well.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:11:54 2019 No.22197916

>>22197871
I referenced the old buzzword, not used it strictly speaking. You don't even know if calling someone 1-bit is even going to hold up as an insult as the story goes on, but yeah lets keep the cringe engine running. You have absolutely nothing to "give" me but cliched insults since you don't like my opinion, and assuming you are the one who called me out for being on another thread, literal ad hominem.

I stand by the notion that I think he got pozzed by what he thinks is Avant-garde and enlightened opinion compared to the general Japanese public, still clinging to their old-fashioned ideas. I hope I am wrong, and that it ends up being part of an overarching twist or narrative sense he got all the backlash for the Lion issue by the Nip imageboards and he is trying to subvert expectation.

Oh and on that subject, to that post that defended the statement that "we shouldn't judge cultures that are against homosexuality, ect" isn't that the actual logic that SJWs do to defend Islamic ideas towards chucking gays off buildings yet continuing to import them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:12:40 2019 No.22197920 >>22197869 >damn, he really doesn't like online detractors, does he? that line isn't about online detractors. it's about brainwashed online radicals.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:14:22 2019 No.22197927

>>22197894
If ciconia turns into a post apocalyptic devilman-esque story, I'd take back any complaints I had.

The real reason the world building was shit, the characters were mediocre at best, the music was lacking, and the story needing a pacemaker surgery... it's all because it'll all get thrown to the wayside to make way

That's what r07 meant by it costing a lot more. Because he's having to make the backgrounds, sprites, and music for almost two entirely different settings.

if only

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:14:52 2019 No.22197929 >>22197896 >worthless outlooks on things >it's about brainwashed online radicals showing your hand a little hard there, buddy. even if everyone else is too dense to see past your intentional obfuscation to avoid saying anything directly refutable

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:18:07 2019 No.22197946 >>22196212 aka contrarian fags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:20:50 2019 No.22197957 >>22197929 I'm sorry, what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:21:15 2019 No.22197960 >>22196212 And then he followed it up with the thought that this mechanism is being utilized for social engineering as we speak. I didn't expect the social commentary or science fiction to be as interesting as it turned out

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:23:33 2019 No.22197965 Man Witch-Hunts translation is still really stiff and awkward, don't they have an editor? How many more times must I read sasuga translated as "That's (insert name here) for you!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:26:30 2019 No.22197977 >>22197965 That's Anon for you!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:27:54 2019 No.22197983 >>22197965 Can't wait until Valentina says it using her "haha" speech quirk so I can have some serious coldsteel PTSD

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:29:25 2019 No.22197988 Imagine giving your life away and going through hell just so you can fly in the sky lmao, especially when VR can be extremely realistic and provide feeling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:32:33 2019 No.22197996 >>22197983 >switch over to jp to see what everyone's speech patterns are like >Koshka uses extreme hick speech like オラ and ~っぺよ >speaks normally in eng good job WH

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:32:41 2019 No.22197997

>>22197988
>giving your life away
But most of them don't get the choice, especially kids in the shittier social classes trying to make something for their families, or being outright forced to by their families.

Marica is the real idiot. If you put Gun and Marica in the same room and Gun was off her meds, Marica would not walk out of the room alive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:35:06 2019 No.22198006 >>22197996 >Lilja has her speech pattern intact >insults Koshka for a speech pattern that isn't intact forget literal vs. localized, this might be WH's first ironic translation

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:41:41 2019 No.22198037 >>22197997 Marica is pretending to be retarded

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:42:52 2019 No.22198043

>>22197891
>wowowowowowowow
Am i the only one who finds this really cute?
I actually had a small shock in the factory horror scene because the person cried "owowowow" when getting into the grinder, which sounds similar. But i feel like this was just a coincidence in the eng translation.

>>22197929
>it's about brainwashed online radicals
Those are two different anons, this one is me. I find it funny how you realized i was talking about you among other things.
But it's not just about you, this is simply what the story (and ryukishi) is talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:42:55 2019 No.22198044 >The adult white stork's main sound is noisy bill-clattering, which has been likened to distant machine gun fire. bros??

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:42:57 2019 No.22198046 Is Meow's name in JP Nyaa? Or is it still Meow? In English it's a play on pronunciation, but I doubt they use an English word as their name in the JP script. Has to be some other word that sounds like Miyao but is still in JP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:44:06 2019 No.22198051 >don't want to use discord because criticism will get you kicked out for being some pseudo nazi >don't want to use 4chan because saying you enjoyed it will get you called a tranny faggot Where the fuck do I go

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:45:34 2019 No.22198056 >>22198046 If I had to guess, Miyao is probably written in Kanji while Meow is written in kana. How wrong am I?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:46:56 2019 No.22198063

>>22198051
These threads are overwhelmingly discord, and most people here say its enjoyable and if anything you get shit-on by either people thinking Ryukishi is long-conning the homo narrative, or those unironically in support of schizophrenic transsexualism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:47:33 2019 No.22198068 >>22197965 It feels way too localized this time. All the characters talk like they're straight out of an american webtoon. It doesn't have the same charm that the original Umineko fan translation had.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:49:24 2019 No.22198075 >>22198068 For me it feels way too much like the original Umineko translation.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:51:16 2019 No.22198085

>>22198051
Using Discord to DM people who aren't crazy is fine, and desu most of the people I've spoken with on Discord who were absolute psychos were, ironically, people who used 4chan a lot, and not people who used Discord primarily. We can even talk if you want, DM ofc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:54:15 2019 No.22198095 >I'll let you call me Marica, okay? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgpH-8W-Eyc

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:56:30 2019 No.22198098 File: 724 KB, 1017x359, Kerokero.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did anyone else notice the easter egg in the music room? You can click on Keropoyo to view different dialogue boxes. You can make him sing the Ciconia theme song.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 20:56:56 2019 No.22198100 File: 91 KB, 511x434, 05635.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22198085 >this entire post The absolute state of this general.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:02:28 2019 No.22198122 >>22197869 >zoomer >cope Get the fuck off /jp/ you underaged faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:07:38 2019 No.22198143 File: 263 KB, 1822x1022, 1570321767024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >this and the whole bit about capcom and "SF9" afterwards Again, surprisingly topical. I wonder if the jp script also said justin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:27:13 2019 No.22198246 >>22195856 Aren't she talking about her and Maya?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:27:22 2019 No.22198247
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Finally finished the story.

What a fucking ride this was, this slow degradation of the whole planet into complete crap was really not what I was expecting, especially at first. Given how Rose Guns was and how Ryukishi got high on the action scenes I didn't really expect him to treat the build up to a world war the least bit realistically, and I fully expected this to turn into a massive bloodbath at the height of some full out offensive by the end, but instead it really is a story about the planet dying and most people going on with their lives still managing to hold on to stability despite it which is haunting as fuck but is something that we can see happening even in our world today. It's a very quiet affair, and a lot of the action even happens off screen. It definitely fits the style of WTC and does so even with a significantly widened scope.

If anything, the only thing that I feel could've been handled better was getting across a little more of the world before it started going to shit. While the opening with Miyao flying over Tokyo but actually Russia was great for this, and so was the stuff with Gunhild, as was Jayden's trip to the arcade, but we spend a significant amount of time in the VR rooms and not nearly as much out in the open. Fortunately there's still 3 other games minimum that can aid that.

The other thing that felt a little odd compared to past games was the lessened focus characterization because of what was being conveyed by all of the above, but given the scope of the story this sort of thing is practically necessary at the start. I don't doubt that with the bird's eye view in this game out of the way that the rest will feel a little more typical of Ryukishi though.

Naima is the best girl

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:31:22 2019 No.22198269 would chloe be as liked if her tits werent so big

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:33:11 2019 No.22198278 >>22198269 Yes. She's still cute on her own. Her tits just make it all the sweeter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:34:01 2019 No.22198286 >>22198247 >Naima is the best girl good taste

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:34:20 2019 No.22198289 >>22197183 Utopia as well. And it's not like the connections end there, either. The thematic overlap between the two is pretty overwhelming.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:40:04 2019 No.22198315

>>22196471
Maya was a trainee for years, being unable to proceed she ended up getting position as the second secretary in the military and, after getting molested by fat ugly old man, she agreed to participate in the pandora experiment in a final, hopeless attempt to actually become a gauntlet knight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:41:44 2019 No.22198329 >>22197379 Sounds like you don't think it could be handled tastefully anyways, and this isn't for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:46:02 2019 No.22198348 Who's miyao's mother. And will it be someone we know? i don't think it's takano just from the way shes spoke in the main ending, but dunno.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:49:10 2019 No.22198357 >>22198348 Who else would fuck Tomitake?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:49:19 2019 No.22198358 >>22198348 That's me. I'm Miyao's mother. It's implied whoever it is also made the keropoyos. And while it's not Seshat because she's too black, we know all the keropoyos report to her, whatever that signifies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:49:41 2019 No.22198359 >>22198348 It's the Jestress.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:51:14 2019 No.22198365 >>22198348 >Jestress takes off her mask >Tojiro: This reminds me of when we first met It could be her tbqh

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:53:16 2019 No.22198375 It was battler, thus the hair.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:53:35 2019 No.22198378 The king of fury is Oishi, the king of sorrow is Irie, the king of ridicule is Keiichi. Screencap this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:54:32 2019 No.22198379 >>22198365 >>22198359 it was implied that she could at least look like her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:56:26 2019 No.22198390 >>22198375 Miyao is Ange's great grandson.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:57:37 2019 No.22198399 File: 2 KB, 99x125, thingkn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22197463 >this is a lot of cope. What does this phrase mean? Truly enlightening words.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:57:57 2019 No.22198403 >>22197752 >presents a "complex" argument and forces his opinion on you for 5 minutes >but then he says "it's okay if you think otherwise" in the last second, so it's okay Fuck off, homos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 21:58:21 2019 No.22198406 >>22198378 It's George, Hideyoshi, and Rudolf. They got so powerful after George went on a diet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:00:55 2019 No.22198422 >>22197790 Based 8bit poster. 1bit homos BTFO.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:01:31 2019 No.22198425 i dont respect anyone who puts spaces between each line

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:02:59 2019 No.22198436 >>22198425 Fromhereonout,I'mchangingmyways.Justforyou,Anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:05:41 2019 No.22198457 >>22198436 i mean like this

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:06:20 2019 No.22198463 >>22198425 I don't respect loser virgins who read chinese cartoons. Later nerds. crack sip

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:07:05 2019 No.22198471 >>22198457 Don't you have any respect for yourself? Stop that right now.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:08:59 2019 No.22198490
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>>22198246
I thought about that the first time reading the scene and it's possible she is just talking about Maya, but:

1 - Pic related
2 - During the scene, she calls Miyao and Jayden "monsters" and gives the impression she hates them. But then you read data fragment 14 where she says she really looks up to Miyao and admits she loves him.

So either fragment 14 happens after this scene or she has a second personality that resents her teammates.

I could just be reading too much into it too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:10:24 2019 No.22198503 File: 411 KB, 564x720, ruk_13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's sex with Rukshana like?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:10:53 2019 No.22198507 >>22198490 30-60% of the characters could have multiple personalities I'm not ready for this shit. I hope everyone that dies fucking stays dead and there's no resetting. I don't wanna deal with that shit, so the less of it the better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:11:02 2019 No.22198508 >>22197747 To be fair, you're supposed to know it's gunhild before you see fragments 12-15. Those last three fragments are as subtle as episode 7 of umineko is. They're showing you the cat's guts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:12:21 2019 No.22198517 >>22198329 It was handled fine in Chiru, as well as how Lamda and Bern feel about each other so fuck off and dilate somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:15:07 2019 No.22198528 The data fragments really should have been like the tips in higurashi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:15:16 2019 No.22198532 >>22198503 What's sex like?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:16:39 2019 No.22198537 >>22198532 What's sex?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:17:28 2019 No.22198541 >>22198537 What?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:18:20 2019 No.22198547 >>22198528 yeah, placing them between chapter as breathers worked far better than dumping everything at the end

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:19:16 2019 No.22198554 >>22198378 Ridicule is Battler

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:20:23 2019 No.22198561 >>22198532 lets find out anon

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:26:32 2019 No.22198594

>the amount of people triggered in this thread by trans writing
wtc was always like this if you've been paying attention. remember all the times mion says she wants to be a boy in the higurashi vn? or all the times keiichi enjoys putting on a dress? if not guess you're just a secondary after all

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:29:20 2019 No.22198608 >>22198594 Are you one of those people who looks up to Yasu despite her being mentally deranged schizo who was willing to murder her entire family.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:30:06 2019 No.22198613 >>22198594 That's different, because I also enjoy putting on dresses.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:30:19 2019 No.22198616

>>22198608
R: I have this feeling that most of the people who arrived at the truth were women, because the key is being able to imagine Yasu’s feelings. Umineko is something that cannot be read by people who never fell in love with somebody. It is something that people who have no experience in love and relationships have trouble understanding.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:30:52 2019 No.22198618 >>22198594 don't forget the baseball star who liked eating feminine desserts, clearly that was an expression of latent transsexualism and the desire to wear the Angel Mort outfits while getting rammed up the ass by Oishi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:31:41 2019 No.22198620 people surprised by this game should read the umineko side story where ange is making fujo doujins about battler x rudolf

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:32:07 2019 No.22198623
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>>22198508
If the traitor is Gunhild, what was Chloe refering to when she said to Miyao pic related.

It's like she is indirectly telling him that there is always the nuclear option of just destroying humanity (haha three kings). There is also the fact that she shocked Lilja midfight for no reason whatsoever, killing her in the process.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:33:46 2019 No.22198630 >>22198620 >what is tongue in cheek compared to a focal point of two leading characters relationship.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:34:05 2019 No.22198632 >>22198616 (yes)

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:34:25 2019 No.22198636

>>22198594
Penis envy and autogynephilia are common things. Crossdressing is a weird kink, but cute clothes are nice so why the fuck not. Being a boy while sincerely thinking you're actually a girl on the other hand is something that only delusional psychos do

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:35:18 2019 No.22198639 >>22198636 >cute clothes are nice so why the fuck not have you found an informed consent clinic yet sweetie? cause youre gonna need one soon

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:35:34 2019 No.22198641 >>22198630 >focal point of two leading characters relationship we talking umineko or ciconia here

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:36:14 2019 No.22198645
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>>22198623
>There is also the fact that she shocked Lilja midfight for no reason whatsoever, killing her in the process.
Here's the thing, The Three kings are incompetent, Gunhild is indeed the traitor, but so is Chloe, except Chloe is from a different faction.
The three kings traitor that they talked about is Gunhild though, it's why Tomitake intentionally made her shield malfunction with Keropoyo and killed her.
She also fits the bill in more ways even before fragments 12-15 and has to have done something outrageous to get high p3 levels.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:36:22 2019 No.22198646 >>22198630 ryukishi has literally always been a fujo. he even describes satoko as a sou-uke in higu ep 7

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:37:12 2019 No.22198649 Can r07 write characters whose dialogue sounds uniquely like them without going wowowow meowmeow miaow sparkle >< 0///0 o/ meow meow wowowwowow

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:37:28 2019 No.22198650 >>22198616 Ryukishi also beats his dick to 7 year olds are you going to defend that view of his too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:37:44 2019 No.22198651 >>22198649 yeah but witch hunt cant translate it lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:38:30 2019 No.22198655 File: 541 KB, 350x396, AUU AU AUA AUAUA.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22198649

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:38:48 2019 No.22198657 >>22198650 >virgin who cant understand umineko by the authors admission btfo sad!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:39:51 2019 No.22198663 >>22198649 wowowauauwowowuuuuuuu~uuuuu~mmiiiiipah meow

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:40:28 2019 No.22198668 >>22198616 The people behind Goats Reading Seacats are both aromantic, yet they've got the best understanding of Umineko and Yasu's heart I've ever seen among fans anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:40:46 2019 No.22198670 >>22198649 it's retarded, reads terribly and is jarring as fuck but i love it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:41:46 2019 No.22198673 File: 164 KB, 189x163, UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22198649

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:41:50 2019 No.22198674 >>22198651 this. When I started re-reading Higu in moon I noticed pretty much imediately that the dialogue was more nuanced and the characters voices came across more strongly. Satoko is so cute

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:41:50 2019 No.22198675 File: 363 KB, 1890x1334, 1406387532531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22198657 im all about love and acceptance here anon

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:41:56 2019 No.22198676

>>22198636
>penis envy
real
>autogynephilia
psychobabble with no real basis other than some people with a fetish. might as well give inflation freaks a psychological designation
>>22198646
why the hell does the west have such a hard fucking time understanding the concept that BL ≠ gay fiction/propaganda.

Characters in BL are average guys who somehow develop feelings for each other EXCLUSIVELY despite being straight or at least not outwardly homosexual with a very very few exceptions. Most fujos hate official pairings in non-BL fiction unless its intensively shrouded in ambiguity. And furthermore this multiple personality tranny shit is beyond the pale even for outlandish BL subplots.

God its like 2001 all over again trying to explain to people that BL was female consumers and not gay men.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:42:37 2019 No.22198679 If only Miyao made those WALLS OF PEACE WALLS OF PEACE WALLS OF PEACE 10 feet higher, he could have kept preaching about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:43:03 2019 No.22198683 >>22198670 This is pretty much how I've felt about Ryukishi's writing since Higurashi, and it never gets old

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:45:40 2019 No.22198696 >>22198676 >>psychobabble with no real basis other than some people with a fetish it's literally the word of the fetish

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:47:30 2019 No.22198707 >>22198674 >witch hunt >higurashi Anon..

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:49:17 2019 No.22198715

>>22198696
yes but when you conflate it with trannies, who are generally just betas/homos larping as girls in response to a victim-mentality society that overtly disapprove of masculinity you are just projecting some weird kink shit onto people who need actual help. I think in all my time online and inperson group counseling dealing with the weirdest fucks imaginable, I have encountered one person living as a "woman" with autogynophelia. The rest of them are insanely depressed and beatdown men looking for a existential escape.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:51:22 2019 No.22198726 >>22198707 That's his point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:52:11 2019 No.22198728 more sol scenes tailored around chloe schlicking please

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:52:50 2019 No.22198735 >>22198726 >witch hunt >higurashi Other anon...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:53:27 2019 No.22198736 >>22198728 I wonder exactly what kind of VR porn she creates.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:54:14 2019 No.22198742

>>22198707
I stayed up pretty late to finish ciconia, so I'm not thinking clearly rn. BUt my point stands. The old translation doesn't capture the differences between the characters ways of speaking at all. For Umi it wasn't as much of an issue because I just had voices from day 1, but now we're back to text only, so the translation quality is more important.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:56:05 2019 No.22198748 >>22198715 I'm saying that someone having that kink doesn't make them a tranny, and that anyone who bases their outward identity on what they get off to has lost their marbles

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:57:21 2019 No.22198759 >>22197747 >>22198508 It's not Gunhild. She and finland are just government agents undercover. The traitors work with 4 Kings. I don't think she is a double agent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:58:48 2019 No.22198769 thoughts on the maya thing? was she coerced into being a secretary and then tried to move to being a gauntlet user instead and was killed? or was that just a cover story given to finland to hide whats happening to her?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:58:54 2019 No.22198770 >>22198735 What the fuck is going on?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 22:59:53 2019 No.22198774

>>22198748
Well I agree with you, but I don't think autogyno is common, nor does it have much to do with the tranny boom. Most guys with the fetish who aren't even trannies are just /d/ regulars or into genderswap. Most trannies don't even want vaginas or accept the premise that not having a dick is kind of important to the whole "being a girl thing" and on the contrary are trying to push people into thinking women sometimes have dicks and that's normal.Which is in fact my grief with the angle the early part of Ciconia is taking towards Meow and Jayden.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:00:19 2019 No.22198776 >>22198735 we know witch hunt didnt write the umineko translation, but the point still stands that by reading ryukishis writing, in any game, highlights how stiff witch hunts translation is when the character voices come through in the japanese text.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:00:26 2019 No.22198778 >>22198759 I am here to inform you that you have stopped thinking. It is advised to continue. Being related to geroy doesn't mean their a government spy dude, there isn't even a point to be a government spy from your own government

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:01:21 2019 No.22198780 >>22198776 *higurashi sorry im a fucking idiot too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:03:03 2019 No.22198786 >>22198776 I didn't mind Witch Hunt's translation of Umineko. It's a hundred times better than whatever translation the PS3 port uses. That one was cringy enough I had to drop it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:05:19 2019 No.22198802 >>22198735 Since it wasn't translated by Witch Hunt, it lets you see the difference even if you're too dumb to read Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:05:34 2019 No.22198805 >>22198778 Why would other government try to develop other country ultimate weapon (finland and koshka)? It's the their own government, just higher echelons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:06:22 2019 No.22198810 >>22198805 I don't think you understood my post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:07:39 2019 No.22198818 >>22198769 >finland Sweden. And yes, Maya was molested by fat ugly old men and died in the hopeless experiment after suffering in the academy for years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:09:33 2019 No.22198829 >>22198810 It's hard to read posts from posters who don't understand the difference between " their" and "they are". Gomen. Can you rephrase?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:10:10 2019 No.22198831

>>22198769
I interpreted it as her wanting to be a gauntlet user, failing out at some point early in the process, becoming a secretary, and using connections from there to get the experiment position
>>22198774
I honestly suspect it's quite common, and that it's related to being exposed to porn from a very young age. It doesn't directly translate to becoming a tranny, but I do think it can make a person much more vulnerable to it, with social pressure, a pre-existing psychosis, or grooming pushing a person over the edge.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:11:46 2019 No.22198842 >>22198736 apparently she likes using other peoples avatars to record and upload videos

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:12:36 2019 No.22198847 >>22198831 I can speak from experience on it. Had a therapist try and convince me I was trans. I was so depressed at the time I almost believed it myself. It gave me a tangile reason for being depressed as well as a solution.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:13:21 2019 No.22198853

>>22197552
>>22197247
Nice catch. Didn't see it at first reading.

That could mean either:

1 - Lingji has ties with Takano's Ark Lab. Maybe she's a plant of hers? The 3 Kings have plants, but it was never said that Takano's had one. It could be possible, if we assume Takano's ultimate goal mash well with Lingji's personality. As we have no clear ideas what is her ultimate goal that could as well be.

2 - The golden gauntlet are the "prime" model used by ALL the knight orders, and by extension, the Ark Lab (which is a splinter group after all). I don't see Lingji being a plant, but I can see her faction having discovered some golden gauntlets from a Wisdom cache or something and hiding them as a last resort.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:13:53 2019 No.22198856 >>22197552 >feeling of nobility to it how the fuck is this noble or classy

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:14:24 2019 No.22198858 >>22198847 This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. Its a damn shame, sorry you had to go through that but glad you didn't fall for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:15:27 2019 No.22198862 >>22198856 gold = expensive = classy consistent uniform = noble I guess?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:21:49 2019 No.22198887

>>22198847
I really hate the crabs in a bucket mentality that most trans people seem to have. They'll latch on to the smallest thing to suggest you're one of them and drag you into their bullshit. It's annoying as fuck. It's deeply disgusting that so much of society eggs this on now. I was very open with my friends as a kid that the idea of being a girl was hot to me. They rightly told me that thinking was delusional and I should keep that shit to myself. If I were born 10 years later I shudder to imagine what would have happened to me. I feel so bad for kids these days, man

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:23:32 2019 No.22198894
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>>22198829
Finland and Gunhild work/worked for the Geroy facility, but they're not spies from their own government.
Finland is just there to deal with Koshka, that's right, but Gunhild isn't implied to have any duty regarding them outside of the facility except having high level clearance from previous connections to the place while highly implying she's related to the Three Kings from her inner dialogue.
We also know that you can't really rise your P3 levels if you don't have talent in any way but Surgery, Gunhild is always dodging the issue and simply going "y-yeah I worked hard." yet nothing implies she went through it.
Ryu07 would have given a hint that she did if that was the case instead of leaving it in the open.
So her high P3 levels are probably related to something outside the AOU, probably The Three Kings considering her mentality.

Remember, The Three Kings have four traitors, but that doesn't mean there's only four traitors on all of the factions, only that there's only four traitors that belong to The Three Kings.
So Chloe's shady shit in the end could be related to a different faction.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:23:58 2019 No.22198900 >>22198887 >couldve grown up happy and not repressed yeah wouldnt that be awful

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:26:45 2019 No.22198920 >>22198900 dilate.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:27:37 2019 No.22198927

>>22193984
You mean the Jestress? I don't think the Jestress is Mom. Mom seems to be connected to Keropoyo, or even be Keropoyo. The Jestress has completely different goals and personality, and doesn't match.

I thought Mom was Takano at first but now I'm not sure. I'm almost certain it is not Jestress though.

Albeit, the theory that Miyao was programmed to kill Jestress is a perfectly possible one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:28:07 2019 No.22198931 >>22198900 I'm much happier now than I would be as a deformed catamite. Thanks, but no thanks faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:33:53 2019 No.22198956 >>22195003 Good job on finding those events. Makes me wonder if each of those are kakera, something that will unlock the mystery of the Pandora, or simply a red herring?

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:36:49 2019 No.22198964
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>>22198623
I agree, and I add her chocolate bar video. The happiest feeling Chloe could ever feel eating a chocolate bar would be to be if she were the last person on earth, humanity dead, and preparing to kill herself.

That's exactly the kind of shit the Three Kings would appreciate and cultivate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:37:05 2019 No.22198965 >>22198927 >Mom seems to be connected to Keropoyo, or even be Keropoyo. I don't know where you're getting this. >The Jestress has completely different goals and personality. Different from... Keropoyo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:41:13 2019 No.22198997 >>22194638 ApocalypsisCiconia-I I think.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:44:06 2019 No.22199011 unironically wish ryukishi colored these himself instead of letting someone else do it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:46:27 2019 No.22199020 My only disappointment was that there were too few tracks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:47:22 2019 No.22199023 >>22199020 there were literally more than any of the other games started out with

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:47:30 2019 No.22199025
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>>22198965
>I don't know where you're getting this.
I thought it was obvious, but maybe I misread the clues.

Keropoyo fights several time against evil Miyao. Evil Miyao expressly asks for his presence to be hidden from Keropoyo. After the whole 4d satellite printer thing, when Miyao asks Kero what he is, Kero says this.

Which is exactly what Mom says in the end.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:48:39 2019 No.22199029

>>22199020
The bulk of the soundtracks in these usually comes from the answer arcs, which we might not even get this time. I'll be very sad if we don't. Though RGD displayed the same trend, lots of great tracks making their introduction in the last two of the four present chapters

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:48:42 2019 No.22199031 File: 46 KB, 1280x1024, kero speaking 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22199025 >>22198965 And this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:48:43 2019 No.22199030 >>22199023 There were too few good tracks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:50:41 2019 No.22199041 calling it now. Instead of any witches/players showing up in person this will end up being Devilman with Miyao and Jayden >>22199030 hard disagree

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:58:05 2019 No.22199076 >>22198965 And as for the goal and personality, Mom cares about Miyao. Jestress doesn't give a shit.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:58:11 2019 No.22199077

>>22199029
The only thing that will stop WTC6 from happening is the same thing that would stop WTC5 from finishing at all, whatever the fuck Ryukishi meant by how he might not be able to continue writing this story depending on how people took the critical nature of the story

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:58:20 2019 No.22199078 >>22199041 This is like Higurashi, no Witch will directly show themselves, but you'll be able to see their outlines if you pay attention.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:58:43 2019 No.22199080 >>22197000 I can definitely see the parallels as well; makes me wonder if Miyao is the anti-Christ/Satan due to supposedly being a murder program designed to bring about the end?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 5 23:59:44 2019 No.22199086 >>22199080 Or more specifically a Devilman

Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:01:16 2019 No.22199095

>>22199080
Alt-Miyao said that if he wanted to prevent the world from ending, he had to die, and that he was the cause of it all. My guess is that Miyao is Satan and will cross the door.

>The Dragon is imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit for a thousand years. (20:1–3)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:01:19 2019 No.22199096 patches for the different kettes when?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:01:38 2019 No.22199098 Deviltwink WALLS OF PEACEbaby

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:02:11 2019 No.22199100 >>22199077 what the fuck did he mean by this? did umineko's reception make R07 lose his balls or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:03:24 2019 No.22199103 >>22199077 If he'd pussy out just like that, it's probably a story not worth telling anyways.

Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:05:32 2019 No.22199112

>You can't kill Lingji from the tips menu
I like that he brought it back but it's just not the same

>>22199100
He might just be afraid that someone will try to kill him or something. Seeing how the spergs in this thread reacted to his writing about homos I wouldn't blame him if that was the case

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:07:02 2019 No.22199118 >>22199080 A few other biblical prophecy items worth identifying are the abomination of desolation and the mark of the beast. I would both laugh my ass off and not be surprised at all if the latter was Keropoyo. You can't uninstall him, after all

Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:07:23 2019 No.22199123

>>22199025
>>22199031
I never took those as literal direct quotes "from" Keropoyo. I read them as signs of Toujirou fucking with all of Miyao's systems. What better to manipulate him with than words from his own mother? We're never really given an indication that Keropoyo's communications to Miyao in particular are privileged as especially authentic or anything.
>>22199076
>Mom cares about Miyao. Jestress doesn't give a shit.
She birthed him to be her game piece and then peaced the fuck out. Jestress makes the most sense at the moment through her connection to Toujirou. There is no evidence of a connection like that between Keropoyo and Toujirou.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:09:48 2019 No.22199135 >>22198043 I looked forward to seeing Naima just so I could hear her say "wow" desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:15:30 2019 No.22199160 >>22199030 How many good tracks were there in Episode 1 of Umineko anyway? goldenslaughterer, system0, maybe the ending track whose name I forgot and deadangle. I personally consider Apocalypsis to be good. It's one against maybe 4 or 5, but still.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:16:26 2019 No.22199165 Adding to all the Bible shit, the runes are about this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcism_of_the_Gerasene_demoniac

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:16:33 2019 No.22199167 Is nobody going to talk about how absolutely retarded Rethabile's last name is? "Africacommonwealthrealm". Holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:18:13 2019 No.22199174 >>22199167 Yeah, when I read that shit I thought there was no way that was serious, but I guess we're rolling with it now

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:18:31 2019 No.22199176 >>22199167 royal families typically dont have a last name, or the last name is just their nations name desu

Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:19:00 2019 No.22199177

>>22199123
Miyao doesn't remember his mother. Why would Toujirou fucks with him by sending him words without context, about something he doesn't remember?

I read those scenes differently. The only thing evil Miyao fears is Kero, which fights several time for Miyao. Alone that would mean nothing (as Kero is probably programmed to help any user), but just after a bout of over-protectiveness, when asked, he says the exact same line that Mother says in the epilogue.

To recap, the Frog is able to fight evil Miyao, makes evil Miyao afraid, is extremely protective of Miyao, and when asked repeats the exact same line as Miyao's mother. If the Frog isn't Miyao's mother he's at least connected.

>Jestress makes the most sense at the moment through her connection to Toujirou.
Takano makes just as much sense then, if you take only a vague connection to Toujirou as your prime argument. More sense even. Takano is Toujirou's ex, is probably crazy enough and knowledgeable enough to create Miyao, and while Jestress gives no fuck about Miyao, we don't know Takano's attitude toward him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:20:32 2019 No.22199181 File: 557 KB, 967x286, ciconia_phase1_1POV9FdIZt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you think she makes porn animations?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:23:15 2019 No.22199189 File: 806 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot (713).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22199181 yeah. she does furry ones too

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:23:54 2019 No.22199195 >>22199160 I'm quite fond of Hope and Towering Cloud in Summer. Daydream's End is my favorite track in Umineko but I don't think that plays until the end of chapter 2

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:27:18 2019 No.22199210 >>22199118 If Keropoyo turns out to be the Beast/Mark of the Beast, I'll buy the bundled collection of Ciconia when it eventually comes out and send a poorly written Japanese letter to Ryukishi himself thanking him for the laugh

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:28:14 2019 No.22199217 >>22199210 Keropoyo will be the main antagonist poyo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:29:18 2019 No.22199221 >>22199195 Ciconia's BGM seriously suffered from not having zts involved. If zts was in, we'd probably have had something amazing for sure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:36:58 2019 No.22199258 >>22199221 dai is involved, so I'll like it no matter what. M.Zakky is also really growing on me. And Umineko's soundtrack is absurdly good, I'd robbing myself of much joy by comparing other things to it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:39:46 2019 No.22199268 >>22199221 What Ciconia needs is a soundtrack like Muv-Luv Altnerative/Starship Troopers

Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:42:00 2019 No.22199273

>>22199177
>Miyao doesn't remember his mother. Why would Toujirou fucks with him by sending him words without context, about something he doesn't remember?
Why would he feel compelled to kill someone he's never seen once shown their image? It's embedded in his subconscious.
>the Frog is able to fight evil Miyao, makes evil Miyao afraid
These things aren't evidence that Keropoyo is related to Miyao's mom. I'm pretty sure he's just wary of Keropoyo because anyone carefully monitoring Miyao might be tipped off by Keropoyo suddenly detecting and quarantining unauthorized software.
>Takano
What is the connection between Takano and Toujirou, exactly (outside of other works)? They're in the same scene at the end but she seems to be holding him at gunpoint. The Jestress seems to be someone Toujirou has known for a while to say something to the effect of "this reminds me of the first time we met".
>caring for Miyao
This is pretty tenuous. Again, she literally only had him to use him as a game piece and left him in the hands of fucking Toujirou. Who also says a bunch of nice things about how adorable he is but obviously in the end does not give a single fuck about him.

Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:43:14 2019 No.22199278

>>22199160
HANE, Ride On, Hope, Fortitude, Fishy Aroma, Stupefaction, Worldend, goldenslaughterer, Core, System 0, Voiceless, Dead angle and Bring the Fate were all great. Umineko's soundtrack in general was just a lot better while most of Ciconia's tracks felt like they were just from a game. There's only like 5 or 6 tracks from Ciconia I'll probably listen to regularly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:43:27 2019 No.22199279 File: 278 KB, 251x594, ciconia_phase1_Y67Qo3b8Iu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Everyone talking about how they want to impregnate Chloe, but not about how hot the frenchie is

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:44:31 2019 No.22199285 >>22199279 Who would want to impregnate a 3 euro welfare queen? Kimoi!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:45:15 2019 No.22199293 >>22199279 >ryukishi hair clip >extended scene where she talks about how she appears female but we don't know her sex think hes trying to tell us anything?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:45:20 2019 No.22199294 >>22199285 Not to mention how flat she is! Pathetic!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:47:21 2019 No.22199303 So will we have repeating worlds yes or no? I'll be really disappointed if we don't, since that's my favorite part of WTC.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:47:31 2019 No.22199304 >>22199285 >>22199294 Almost every girl in this game deserves a good fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:47:53 2019 No.22199305 File: 462 KB, 485x720, chl_g14.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22199279 she was literally made for it dude

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:48:26 2019 No.22199308 >>22199303 It's escalated so far already that I'd be amazed to see him pulloff a whole 3 more phases without it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:49:40 2019 No.22199315 >>22199305 >Implying I don't want Chloevil to step on me, while still being interested in Naomi

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:49:55 2019 No.22199317 >>22199303 If we do, it'll happen less frequently. Maybe every other episode?

Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:50:04 2019 No.22199318

>>22199273
>What is the connection between Takano and Toujirou, exactly (outside of other works)? They're in the same scene at the end but she seems to be holding him at gunpoint. The Jestress seems to be someone Toujirou has known for a while to say something to the effect of "this reminds me of the first time we met".

I'll need to pinpoint the scenes, but there are two Toujirou scenes when they say "what about your ex? I dunno, she's doing her own Ark thing, I've got no contact".

The ex doing her own Ark thing is obviously Takano in that context.

While Takano seems to have a rich history with Toujirou, Jestress seems to give absolutely no fucks whatsoever about him, certainly not enough to hatch a plot of this calibre with him. They seem distant acquaintances at best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:50:17 2019 No.22199320 >>22199221 Is zts confirmed to not be involved in Ciconia at all? Would like it if his soundtracks are in Phase 3 or 4.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:50:58 2019 No.22199322 >>22199308 see >>22197927 It gains more credence each second.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:51:43 2019 No.22199325 >>22199320 I don't think there have been any official statements, although it does make me somewhat scared that he had no involvement in Phase 1 at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:52:29 2019 No.22199331 >>22199325 I'm pretty sure there was an official statement saying zts wouldn't be returning.

Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:53:15 2019 No.22199333

>>22199320
>>22199325
The opening scene lists a bunch of music credits that weren't used yet (Akiyama U2 off the top of my head), and zts wasn't in that list. I also remember around when this was announced that zts said on twitter he had no contact with 07th expansion about Ciconia, or something to that effect

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:54:00 2019 No.22199337 >>22199333 >>22199331 Well shit. Let's hope Ciconia has an answer arc so he can come back.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 00:59:59 2019 No.22199361 >>22191426 the ending better be good I'm barely making it through

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:11:54 2019 No.22199411 File: 59 KB, 600x507, 1565460980804.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >walls of peace >walls of peace >walls of peace >walls of peace >walls of peace >walls of peace

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:13:45 2019 No.22199429 >>22199411 I'll destroy Miyao's walls of virginity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:15:45 2019 No.22199437 >Omochikaeri~! >DESIRE! >WALLS OF PEACE WALLS OF PEACE WALLS OF PEACE WALLS OF PEACE WALLS OF PEACE

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:17:49 2019 No.22199449 one of my favorite tracks, 12_peritunematerial_ominous3_calm, is apparently stock music. lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:24:50 2019 No.22199482 >>22199279 braindamaged

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:33:20 2019 No.22199526 >>22199449 Hey Higurashi was all stock music until the answer arcs and it had some great tracks. (dancers7 being my favorite)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:37:33 2019 No.22199551 >>22199449 It's good so it doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:41:32 2019 No.22199574 >>22199449 illumanti theme

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:46:57 2019 No.22199605 is there porn yet

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:50:49 2019 No.22199626 definitely missing zts but apocalypsisciconia-II is pretty good and definitely made that moment better i hope preholder does more music, butlers theme is the best track in rgd

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 01:55:00 2019 No.22199648 >>22199626 Apocalypsis is probably the best track in the game. Doesn't really stand up to goldenslaughterer or anything, but the moment it's attached to really makes it come close.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 02:01:11 2019 No.22199679 Has someone uploaded the CG yet? The wings from the Christmas party were pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 02:22:20 2019 No.22199733 So, going by 8/16, can we assume Chloe has an evil personality? And she's unaware of it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 02:24:25 2019 No.22199736 >>22199733 I'd wager that her distance from others is in part because she is aware.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 02:27:10 2019 No.22199744 File: 307 KB, 499x720, bernmiyao.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All of you have shit taste. If you wouldn't suck Alt-Miyao's dick you belong in the garbage can.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 02:27:54 2019 No.22199745 >>22199626 i havent even started the game yet but i've been listening to this on repeat. damn, it's good

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 02:30:57 2019 No.22199754 Are the modern earthquakes all caused totally by the underground science cult fucking around?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 02:34:16 2019 No.22199763 >>22199744 i was 100 percent willing to suck miyaocock before i found out about meow

Anonymous Sun Oct 6 02:45:29 2019 No.22199793

>>22199754
I'd say it's implausible. When the Ark Lab created their earthquake-causing anti 8MS machine, it seemed to imply that it was a first for them. Certainly not a recurring thing they do every few months.

Now that I think about it, it could be some preliminary testing, but this has been going on since WWIII, and I don't think the machine is implied to be this old. The Ark Lab itself is implied to not be this old.

I don't know what cause the earthquakes. I'd say it's either the 8MS fucking up, seeing at it is a barely understood chaotic machinery launched at the end of WWIII, or maybe some sort of stuff linked to Wisdom. Maybe Wisdom appears randomly in the crest and causes earthquakes, but that's incoherent with the fact that it appears to be far older than WWIII.

It could be anything, really. I think it's linked to what really happened in the third world war, what was hidden. Maybe some type of weapon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 6 02:56:23 2019 No.22199810 Has anyone figured out what March 5th 1994 means?

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