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Higurashi/Umineko/Ciconia/RGD/Higanbana thread
4 days left
Any expectations you guys have for the Ciconia?
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>>22160903anon you made your name 07th expansion instead of the subject again
>>22161035Oh my bad, at least I named 07th expansion works there so w/e
>>22160919Politician Keiichi
What the fuck is Auaurora's problems?
>>22161130She's a not so subtle stand-in for Ryukishi07.
>>22160919no idea. but if the entire thing was like the demo it would be dissapointing. so i hope there is a lot more to the story.above anything i hope the music will be good.>>22161035so that's why i couldn't find it the other day. i was luck to find this in the catalogue just now.
>>22161148to be fair if you played a half-hour demo of higurashi or umineko it probably wouldnt impress you that much. i'm sure they'll be a few extra layers to ciconia
>>22161107This reminds me...I wonder what's the deadl with Okonogi,Takano and Tomitake, are they clones?,VR images?,inmortal? it's one of the questions I've been asking myself their apparence might be related to the new resource found in Ciconia I think it was named spiritium but idk, what do you guys think?
https://mangadex.org/manga/40997Chapter 1 up.
Mion the meek mafia matriarch
>>22161399>https://mangadex.org/manga/40997Wow thx. Why did someone had put the purple truth on the wiki while it was untranslated? He/she could have translated the manga already.
>>22161531>Why did someone had put the purple truth on the wiki while it was untranslated?What.
https://twitter.com/Flan_TV/status/1178415031928664064?s=20
God I wish I was Erika.
>>22161723My god this is awful.
>>22161723That was so scuffed that I chuckled
>>22161750>God I wish I was Erika.But anon you're Erika.
I want to fuck Shannon's neo vag
Humiliateeya Angste.
>>22161148>but if the entire thing was like the demo it would be dissapointingGeez, and here I am, absolutely loving everything I saw so far in the demo. I couldn't be more intrigued and hyped for the 4th.
I hope Ciconia comes out early on the 4th...I promised a friend I'd go to their board game night.
>>22163023It's October 4th JST. Depending on where you live it may be released on the 3rd
>>22161723this shouldn't exist
Holy shit that match was kino
>>22161723I don't remember Jooji getting to the point of wishing normie couples dead or driving himself mad through tulpas.
I just noticed that Ciconia comes out the same day as the first day of the Rokkenjima massacre.I didn't make the connection.
I hope Phase 2 comes out Watanagashi day (June 19th of 1983), that will coincidently be a Friday too next year, as it's a leap year
I just had the idea that every team instructor may be a character from previous WTC games (or all Ryū's games)AOU has Hinamizawa's Tokyo team, some faction would have Battler/Beatrice/Ange, and LATO, who probably have a better understanding of this global chessboard, has these old characters (Bern/Lambda) as its participants
>>22164631Ryukishi said not to think of Ciconia as Higu/Umi 2 bit it's own thing so I think there might be not recurring characters as huge as people expected aside from Bern & Lambda, that's
>>22164657I'm not saying that, I'm just thinking "old people" would be represented by "old characters", as we already know at least 3 of them are coming back
>>22164631That would be pretty cool, I think spiritium (going by the name) has something to do by the spirits of the death, so maybe that explain why there's people with 100+ years walking.
>>22160919I just hope to see the milf version of best wtc girl expy, Rika/Bern again
George is F A T
>>22160919I know it will be great.
Do we know how long is Phase 1? I hope it's long enough to last me until Pokemon SWSH release in mid November.
>>2216607720 - 30 hours
>>22165948>againStella was no milf, she was a young woman.
>>22166077Jesus Christ, why are you playing that garbage?
>>22166110I didn't mean Stella on that front but just Rika/Bern expy with preferably milf body (maybe like Hinamizawa Bus Stop's Rika)
>>22166167Basically taller Bern/Frederica with bigger boobs
>>22166101How does its length compare to Higu/Umi first arc btw, longer or shorter?
>>22166176There are other details as well specially on the face. You don't need ara ara bait milf for it either.
>>22166101source?
>>22166101That would last me until the end of October if it's real. Not bad I guess, although I hoped it would be longer.>>22166117Fuck off you fucking autist.
>>22166240It was on the steam page but got removed, can't prove it to you
>>22166246>That would last me until the end of October if it's real. Not bad I guess, although I hoped it would be longer.How fucking slow are you at reading? Are you in grade school?
>>22166167>milf body (maybe like Hinamizawa Bus Stop's Rika)Dude, what? That Rika was like 14. She looked like Bernkastel originally. The adaptations changed her look, but even then she didn't look anywhere close to a milf.
>>22166264tbf Bus Stop's Rika despite being just 14 didn't look all that much younger than someone like Rosa (though that might be because Rosa design was too young)
>>22166182If it's 20-30h long, way longer but I doubt it since Ryukishi just said it contained over 40 000 characters, which is only a bit more than your average Umineko episode.
>>22166263No, I just have a job and other stuff to do besides being glued onto my PC's monitor reading a VN.
Are people actually going to spend that ridiculous amount of money on 15 hours of content?
>>22166264She looked younger than Bern, actually. I don't know why they changed her design in the console versions and the manga.
>>22166293I'm busy with college, work, and spending time with a significant other, but I fail to see how it would take the entire month to read a simple 30 hour long episode. There's nothing wrong with setting aside time to complete a hobby of yours when a new installment comes out. Most people have TV series they follow.
>>22166326Not me, fuck paying 30+ bucks for this. Gonna pirate for the first time ever like a filthy South American.
>>22166326Seems crazy to me as well for a VN that isn't particularly good looking and isn't voiced.The 4 episodes will end up becoming one of the priciest VN ever and has below average production value. At least we can be sure that he isn't trying to attract new fans.
>>22166354You're gonna wait several months until someone uploads it, by that time you're gonna get spoiled and Phase 2 might be released by then.
>>22166354I don't blame you, especially with all the delays and whatnot. The worst thing is that 07th Expansion has said nothing about the length of the game, for all we know we could be paying $50 for 10 hours of content. The best option is to pirate it and then buy it after reading, if it's worthwile.
>>22166263You realize that you can purposely take longer breaks between your reading sessions, right?
>>22166386>You're gonna wait several months until someone uploads itmost steam games (including vns) are uploaded on some sites within ~5 hours nowadays
>>22166380>isn't particularly good looking and isn't voiced>below average production valueI would actually pirate it if it became a soulless VN with voice acting and professional artists.
>>22166407Is that so? Well I'm not a cheap pirating shitter so I wouldn't have known that.
>>22166410I wouldn't be happy about is either but point is the price is too damn high for a game that kept it's doujin feel
I feel sorry for Ryukishi, everyone's gonna pirate his blood, sweat, piss and tears. I hope there are enough Steam normies buying it to balance out the pirating.
>>22166410I'm actually happy that with the upped production values and profesionally rendered sprites, Ciconia probably won't need revamped artwork if it ever receives a PS3 or Switch port.Having someone else color his art is a nice compromise for the kind of babies that whine about Ryu's artstyle.
>>22166077The text is a bit longer than an average WTC tome
>>22166458>if it ever receives a PS3PS5 is releasing next year, bro. PS3 is beyond dead at this point.
>>22166485I don't keep up with consoles, so I wouldn't know.
>>22166458I like it a lot. You can tell from the faces and hands that it's definitely his work, but the characters manage to not look like weird alien stick figures at the same time.
>>22166326i'm not sure. depends on the length and the price. i'd like to think that i'm willing to pay a fair price.a lot of people are expecting the worst here it seems.>>22166278>>22166182>>22166176>>22166167anon...
Cuckonia fans lol
>>22166428Who cares about the price? Ryu needs it because the production values have increased considerably from Umineko. And I've pirated every single VN of his in the past because I had no credit card, so I feel bad about it.If you are not pirating literally everything and only spending your entertainment money on HDDs, you are doing it wrong. You should only pay for shit if you want to support the creator. Otherwise, pirate fucking everything and back it up in multiple drives for safekeeping.
>>22166453Umineko sold enough copies to get a hardcopy release despite it already being fan-translated for many years.I honestly doubt that Cicona will be a huge flop, unless everybody wasted their visual novel money on AI: The Somnium Files instead.Also, Ryuukishi07 doesn't really care about the western sales numbers since MangaGamer pays him for the licensing rights, Japanese sales numbers are much more important to him.
>>22166428>the price is too damn highI hope you are not the guy who intends to pay for a shitty pokemon game when you could just pirate it and not give money to those hacks.
>>22166458>probably won't need revamped artwork if it ever receives a PS3 or Switch portHigurashi and Umineko didn't need it either.It's not just a matter of preference. The "updated" sprites and backgrounds often fail to create the appropiate atmosphere or portray emotions effectively. You are gimping your own experience if you use them.
>>22166556Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've heard this every time.
>>22166542This. 40 bucks is actually pretty damn cheap if you never ever buy anything except when you want to support your two or three favorite creators. You should save a lot of money that way.But no, people give their money to a massive corporation like Jewtendo that doesn't need it, and then complain about R07, who has enough balls and integrity to stick to his doujin roots without selling out, withstanding the boycott from all the goats in the Japanese fanbase.
>>22166077It's over 400 000 Japanese charactershttps://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1154790797629251586
>>22166570It's still true. Keep covering your ears, faggot.
>>22166594I'm someone that prefers Ryu's sprites.You people are just annoying as fuck.
>>22166458anyone who replaces a doujin creators art in the work is a soulless retard. people do it with Touhou too and it loses all the charm of being such a one man project of love
>>22166593can somebody put this into context again? i'm pretty sure this was answered before but i forgot.>>22166588sure, i might even be willing to pay 60 just for all the previous games i pirated. but it can't keep going like this for all future episodes.
>>22166545>Umineko sold enough copies to get a hardcopy release despite it already being fan-translated for many years.That's true, but Umineko wasn't so expensive. Even the hardcopies, with 4 Episodes each, are cheaper than Phase 1 of Ciconia
>>22166326Yes, I am.
>>22166542Meh I bought the Steam versions of Umienko as well as Ougon Cross, so I don't feel bad about pirating Ciconia. I would honestly buy it if it was half the price it is now, $20 seems much more reasonable.
I'll buy Ciconia when I get a job, hopefully by Phase 4. For now I'm pirating it.
>>22166708Omg die pls
Why is everyone here so fucking poorGet a damn job
>>22166794there's the concept of a glorified e-book not being worth well upwards of $100; if production costs are that high then maybe ryu should lower them one way or another. if the proceeds from umineko aren't enough then it's costing too much.
>>22166686AFAIK Umineko was priced 20$ because it was already released in Japan years ago.Ciconia will be day 1 English and Japanese release, that's why it's more expensive.
Anons, some people think that the price will be 40$ for the whole thing and each time a Phase is released the game is going to be updated, kinda like an early access game.Myselft I'm going to give 07th the benefic of the doubt and I'll pay the 40 bucks I hope.
>>22167004These people are delusional
>>22167004Very unlikely since Ryukishi already apologized about the high price without saying anything of the sort.
>>22167036He did? Well shit, now I’ll feel bad about pirating it.
>>22166354Even I, a south american, will be paying for it this time.
3 days left
>>22167004But the Japanese physical version is 3800 yen so that doesn't make any sense, unless you're saying that only Phase 1 gets a physical release and the rest of the Phases are only DLC
I CAN PROVE IT My Google search still has the deleted text
>>22167086Nice, but the fact that they removed it means that it may not be accurate
>>22167123My guess is that they didn't want to/didn't know if they could announce it. If it was wrong they would have just corrected it.
>>22167067Do you think any SJW tranny will go werewolf on the release?
>>22167079Idk anon it's still weird WH doesn't even know how the releases are going to go and even the japanese box is unavalible (they didn't update the box it doesn't mention anything about being only Phase 1) It's a really weird way of selling a product desu.
>>22167159He already delayed it once, wouldn't be surprised if he does it again.
>>22167169Hmm maybe he'll delay the Physical release but I doubt he'll delay Phase 1, after two demos and the steam page it's highly unlikely. And if it happens I'll cut my stomach with a spoon
>>22167169>>22167185The release date is in 3 days. There's no way it's getting delayed now
>>22167153I don't think about SJW trannies.
I dreamt me and Ryukishi were hanging out and he was a genius programmer.
Does any one knows if Trianthology is good? It has the same director as Ciconia and Saku, a guy named Nakao Boushi. The vndb page says he is even writing the script. I guess it's true because on his twitter he has a post talking about how he started studying to write a scene explaining the material of gears, and became interested in concrete. He traveled with Ryukishi to Finland last year too.
>>22167568>The vndb page says he is even writing the script"Scripting" a VN is not the same as writing the actual script. The text is written by Ryuukishi. Boushi is only doing the technical stuff like making sprites appear and disappear, sound effects, scene transitions, etc. That's scripting.
>>22167568No one thought translating it would be worthwhile since it came otu, so it must not be good
>>22167568I liked the parts that were actually written by Ryukishi (the FPS story and everything with Alice including the trial and the ending)The rest kind of sucked and is only salvaged by how the ending used those stories
You guys ever think ryukishi was trying to tell us anything with RGDs setting and cast? When i initially learned of its setting i thought it was pretty daring. In the same way that ciconia might be. But after reading it i think he handled everything quite well.Shame we didn't get to see deeper into jeanne's ideals in the future. Everything was kept rather vague.
I can't believe it's actually coming out in 3 or 4 days
Release time has been announced. 3 days from now
>>22166354Just sell the Andes.
>>22166453You're taliking about a guy who built a multimedia empire that's got him set for life, is about to release a completely unrelated console VN with the artist from Key AND who has thousands of guaranteed sales on day one.Ryu is NOT some tiny indie dev, stop treating him like one.
>>22170542>>22170547Is it just me, or did Rena pass Mion up in terms of breast size?
>>22170482Yeah, because all that money from umi/Higurashi will last him for a life time right?
>>22168760Damn, I was hoping for a midnight release JST time.
>>22168760made a countdownhttps://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/1479827/ciconia
>>22170966>countdown works for Joker too
>>22170607He's going to keep getting money for them (especially Higurashi) for the rest of his life, so....yeah, it will.
>>22160903I want to hate fuck Rosa desu
>>22166453I feel sorry for Ryukishi. Especially reading how Mangagamer tricked him into selling his intellectual property for the western market early. Some of the things they did... I shiver. He didn't deserve to end up destitute while the publisher makes money with his intellectual property.Yes, he should have been cleverer, but can you blame him? When you read the Mangagamer contract, the timing, and the entire story, no wonder he sold. I would have done the same.
>>22172787it was only natural
Realistically, you think resin statues of Umineko could sell enough to be produced? Ones of Higurashi definitely would workAnd actually it has fairly high chances of happening, but I’m not sure if Umineko’s could pass. Depends of the character of course, the witches would be the most adapted probably, Beato in first.
>>22173401Higurashi sounds boring as statues. They're just schoolgirls. I'd gladly buy the Witches though.
>>22173427It’s all about making it interesting. It’s harder material but Higurashi have plenty of potential for cool ones.Like simply Rena’ casual outfit with her cleaver, in the garbage dump, maybe including Kentucky or some dead body.Or Rena vs Kei on the roof.Or something a bit more magical with Rika and Hanyu.Or something more on the psycho side with Meakashi Shion.
>>22172787Nicalis did the same thing to Pixel. Which is why Cave Story's corpse keeps getting raped.It's tragic. Doujin creators weren't prepared for these jewish tricks.
>>22173427>Higurashi sounds boring as statues
>>22173561Yeah, those are cute an all. But resin statues are supposed to be more detailed, not just cute animu schoolgirl posing.
>>22173575Anon, those are creppy as fuck, I think they're life size...But yeah I don't know much about resin statues but knowing how pretty the dresses in Umineko are I think they would look amazing if done well.
>>22173595I don't think they're creepy. I would take a photo with them.
>>22173595I’ve got the same ones as small PVCs, they’re cute. I want to see them for real someday.
>>22173595>I think they're life sizeThey aren't, they're just figures. Here's the original sourcehttp://tamaki.bake-neko.net/topb92b.htm
>>22173794Thx for the source anons.
>>22173794Wait so it was a montage all along?My life is a lie. But what about the Kei figure, then.
>>22174178Keiichi is from a different set
>>22174315Damn, they sure look cute, I wanna take them home!
>>22173523Fuck Nicalis for what they did.
Did anyone else read Hotarubi? I thought it was pretty decent, could've been more fleshed out though.
>>22166263It goes a lot slower if you read on auto instead of manually clicking through, as I do. It's a bit more meditative, I guess you could say.
>>22166326I am. I don't have a problem with spending money on the things I really love.
>>22174672I did. I liked it but don't really have more to say about it than that. Some of his other manga projects seem promising as well but they're either dead or untranslated
>>22166545>Umineko sold enough copies to get a hardcopy release despite it already being fan-translated for many years.Wait, an English mean? Do you mean that project going to Kickstarter?I thought I had all the Umineko stuff but didn't know of a hardcopy release from MangaGamer.
english translation of the Ciconia opening:https://youtube.com/watch?v=1s2fgsQirKQ
>>22175400I keep hearing "Oishi has died" at the start of the song.
>>22176135Ryūkishi said that this part of the song isn't in the lyrics because it's a hint for the game
>>22174672Funny you say that, I randomly saw it and read it two days ago. It was interesting I guess, but not sure what to add.
>>22166686I still shill out the shekels because I really want to help Ryukishi, but on the other hand it is indeed overpriced and I really don't want to fund Mangagamer's racket. That's one of those damned if you do and damned if you don't situations, it is perfectly reasonable to pirate the VN, as I see it.
>>22174985>but didn't know of a hardcopy release from MangaGamerThey released it before the Umineko Gold kickstarter, so people forgot about it afterwards.https://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?product_code=248&goods_type=3https://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?product_code=261&goods_type=3
>>22176741>Umineko GoldMy brain somehow deleted everything regarding it, can someone give me a tl;dr on it?
>>22176802Some guys and girls produced a decent Kickstarter trailer for their dream project of having English voices for Umineko. Umineko Gold. We can do it. Look at our KS trailer, that was almost, though not entirely, professionally made. Only $10,000!Then they consulted the VAs in question for their hour rates and probably an actual financial consultant, and it happened it'd be closer to, say, $250,000. Also they probably didn't have the right, and I wouldn't put it past Mangagamer to send them a cease and desist letter. By "wouldn't put it past", I mean it probably happened with a 95% chance.So they danced around the subject a little bit, promised the project was still in the works but only delayed, then quietly vanished from the surface of the earth.
>>22176851That's sad.I wouldn't have played it personally, but I really would have liked to see it come to fruition. The voices sounded quite good, and I usually have no tolerance for english voice acting in anime and VNs.
>>22176851Umineko Gold was approved by both Ryuukishi07 and MangaGamer since it would be a free DLC/add-on for the current steam version. So I doubt it was a cease and desist. You don't start a project this big before asking for approval, unless they are really dumb and naive.I think you're right with the money. For 10,000 $ you probably couldn't voice Episode 1 alone when you consider that you have to pay not only for the VAs, but also technical aspect, new engine work, etc.Wasn't there even a talk about the PS3 CGs too? If yes, then add another 50k-100k $ to it.
Is there not going to be a digital release for Saku?
who here excited for wtc5???
>>22177563No one, read the thread.
>>22177563Everyone aside from 2 or 3 bitter fucks
>Still 2 days away until Ciconia's release dayGod.Remember when it was supposed to be out in late August?
>>22177563mebut i'll probably stay away from the threads for a good while after the launch.
This is yet another price discussion, but I'm curious what are your thoughts regarding the possible outcomes.a) Ciconia 1 is sold for 40 bucks but will feature 2-3-4 for free as DLC over the years. Basically early access so to speakb) 2-3-4 will be additional DLC for a lower pricec) 2-3-4 are their own release, so they might be 40 bucks too.While a looks like the best outcome for us, it is unlikely. The game is marketed as "Phase 1, To you the Repleacable ones". So instead of a series of game, it is specifically the first part of Ciconia. Also, 07th Expansion is still a doujin circle, so it is doubtful they are swimming in money to the point they can handle the bills and stuff like that without any additional revenue from 2-3-4.So b and c are the most likely outcome, moreso that a isn't possible for nips who are going to buy the physical copy. It is also fair to assume Steam and MG cuts aren't that huge considering the physical copy is still 3.8k yen.So the million dollar question: how much should 2-3-4 be each? I love Ryu's stories, but I think it isn't going to do well if the later episodes are sold more than 20 each. That would be a sweet spot of 100 bucks for the full series. Much more expensive than Higu and Umi, but still ok if he keeps dishing out 400k+ characters in the jp script.
>>22160903WTC gacha when?
>>22177649I would whale if Umineko had a collab with my gacha game.
>>22177645i'd be okay with 40 and 20x3 too. or maybe 25x4.but considering the timespan i would probably be okay with more, but it wouldn't feel great.
What's wrong with mangagamer?
>>22177684People seething (rightfully so) after what MG did to Higurashi on steam, and how Umineko release isn't exactly perfect.The good news is that they are virtually not relevant for Ciconia since they are just the publishers while EN content is pretty much validated by WH and 07th.
>>22177649>>22177654How many stars would each character be?Who would be event limited?
>>22166615The entire F/SN is around 800kHigurashi Question arcs as a whole are around 1,1M400k is around the size of Umineko's EPs 1, 5 and 6
>>22177649>he doesn't know
>>22177720Wait what? Episode 1 was definitely the shortest one for Umineko, yet it was 400k characters? I was certain it was like half of that.
>>22176890Thing is, they already said the entire permissions side of the deal was done with only the acting, scripting and marketing to be done, and while the script is gargantuan in size (I wonder how long would it take for Battler's VA to act it all, assuming of course a competent director) the VAs aren't so well-known that they'd eat up the money10k was optimistic but not by a huge margin IMO, I wonder how did they fuck this up so bad considering they were ready to launch the campaign>>22177734I mean I may be reading it wrong but EP1's script is 851994 bytes long, with each sign taking 2 B it gives us 425997 - I think that includes scripting like BGM, BG or sprite changes as well as sound effects played, so I'd cut up to 50k (and that's very liberal, I haven't looked at Umineko's script in some time so I don't remember how much do those take)Also according to that EP7 is actually the shortest, followed by 2, 6 and only then 1 (8 notwithstanding because there's not enough data, I don't think it's shorter though)(src https://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3682867&postcount=6584))
>>22177711Collab characters are, in my experience, all event limited.Lambda and Bern should both be 4 stars, obviously.I would accept a 3-star welfare Beatrice, if she can be awakened all the way to 5-stars.Maria could be 2 or 3-star, with the ability to be awakened to 4-stars.Erika and EVA are 3-stars.Featherine would, in my game, be the Ultimate type 4-star, with a haxx EX skill that completely breaks the game.Ange is 4-stars.
>>22177767Well, according to some nip (screenshot since the url kept being flagged as spam), onikakushi is around 200k and Minagoroshi is 400k. I don't think Episode 1 was anything close to Minagoroshi size but I may be wrong.If those numbers are correct, that means we have quite a big serving in term of wrold building and character introduction + usual Ryu's shenanigans.
>>22177641Same, it's gonna take me a while to read. Spoilers will be dangerous here.
>>22177727That's edited......right?
>>22177944No. But the game is dead since 2017, it was called Higurashi no neko card battle team.
>>22177641tfw won't be able to come back until Saku is translated in english
I spent a decade learning Japanese so that I could enjoy any new work months before the EOPs, and NOW they decide to do a simultaneous English release?What was even the POINT of learning moonrunes?
>>22178021Still works for saku.>What was even the POINT of learning moonrunes?To tell everyone you've read it in the original language, obviously.
>>22178021There was no point. You should just give up and go to the golden land.
saku フラゲ when
>>22177778Where would the witches fit in more? In FGO as casters or in Magia Record as Magical Girls?
Can someone post the translation for these runes again please?
>>22178236Magia Record, no contest. Also because it's what I play.
>>22178274Something about Jesus possessing pigs and making them jump into the water to "choke" them after fornicating them or some other bible bullshit.
>>22178021>I spent a decade learning Japanese出来ない
Sorry but when was it announced Ciconia would be an episodic release? Is there any schedule for when it'll be finished?Maybe I'm just a naive idiot but I could have sworn when first revealed everything indicated that it'd be dropped as a whole package and now when I go to check in on it on steam it's labeled "Part 1".I've been avoiding discussion to try avoid spoilers so I'm not surprised I somehow missed this, just disappointed.
Where should I buy Ciconia?
>>22177645>It is also fair to assume Steam and MG cuts aren't that hugeSteam alone takes 30% cut form each copy sold.
>>22178454They changed that a while ago. It'll be that high for X amount of the first copies, but past that it'll drop.One of the better things to come out of EGS moneyhatting exclusives is Valve now has to treat smaller devs better on the percentage cuts they get.
>>22178435>when was it announced Ciconia would be an episodic releaseYes, 4 episodes. We don't know when the rest will come
>>22178459>They changed that a while ago.They changed that to please big AAA titles.>For all sales between $10 million and $50 million, the split goes to 25 percent. And for every sale after the initial $50 million, Steam will take just a 20 percent cut. Ciconia will be a success if it sells more than 2k copies. If you remember the steam number leaks from last year, Umineko sold less than 2k copies and it was priced like 20$.
>>22178500Man, if it had been a two parter I'd pick it up no problem but I really hate waiting for episodic stuff and prefer to just go through it all in one go.But I also don't want to miss out on the discussion threads like I did for most of Umineko's release schedule and speculation. Drat.
>>22178507How the fuck is a VN with as big a cult following as Umineko such a low seller? I realise it's not S;G tier or anything and the fan TL was out for years but Christ I would have expected 10k to be the absolute floor and for it to go much higher.
>>22178521I imagine the following isn't really that big, and most of the people in it have already read the witch hunt release
>>22178521Weaboo neets don't pay for software
>>22178435>everything indicated that it'd be dropped as a whole packageWhen has that EVER been the case?
Does anyone know what happened to that Higurashi vr game that was announced a few years ago?
>>22178439Steam if you're an autismo and you want it in your list of games. Otherwise mangagamer
>>22178723Speaking of MG and their site, does anybody know how many copies Ciconia has to sell to reach 1st place? Higurashi is still beating it despite not even being on sale.
>>22178589Never, but when did these games ever get a simultaneous release before eirher?Nothing around the announcement ever mentioned it being part 1 of anything that I saw, so I assumed it was also going to be the first time they dropped the whole thing at once.
>>22178807Just play the test version, it's obvious that Phase 1 is the first episode because it has an introduction text like every other WTC episode
So who's streaming this day one I want in on this party
>>22178970go away
>>22179066rude
>the steam release of umineko doesn't have the animated rain effects>saku won't have it eitherWhat a disappointment. I can understand steam not having the rain, because mangagamer is quite known for their incompetence.But it's disappointing to learn that Saku, which is supposed to be the ultimate release, won't either. Couldn't Ryukishi find a way to preserve it? The rain being animated, instead of just a static image, really added to the atmosphere.
It's a day away anons.
>>221792061 day and 3 hours if it doesn't get delayed. It's gonna be 2 am where i am so i'll probably sleep over it.
>>22179206I hope I'll be and to finish it in a day before I have to go back to work!
>>22179206A day left untill I leave this realm untill I complete Phase 1, I think these next days are going to be pretty interesting.
>>22178282Same. In that case, what sort of types and abilities would they have?
>>22160903GEORGETOMORROWCINEMA JOKER
Do we know when the English version of Saku will be released or are we still in the dark about that?
miracles > certainty
>>22179173ryuukishi is not a programmer, and they're just using Witch Hunt's version of nscripter, where they had some problem where it was hard to implement that specific feature
Imagine being the guy who got to plow Rosa.
>>22180672the one who impregnated her or the ones who went to "business trips" in Okinawa with her?
>>22180683Stop asking questions and just imagine
>>22180672Imagining having a daughter even more autistic than me, imagining what she'll be like as a teenager, imagining how long it will take for her to become sadder used goods than her mother
>>22179173>the steam release of umineko doesn't have the animated rain effectsWhat? That pretty much kills like 50% of the game's atmosphere.
>>22180701Good thing she perished on that fateful day.
>>22161130>horn witch>cat witch>bitch witch>butterfly "witch">elderly witchStory had too many witches and also battler and goldsmith.
>>22178021I don't think it takes 10 years to learn a language
>>22178274I was autistic about runes 8 years ago but I can't remember many of them now, but the fact it keeps repeating "the" makes me think all you'd have to do is go to wikipedia and check each rune to the ones on the screen because I'm pretty sure that's just english.
God, I can't believe we're getting Ciconia in less than a day now. I'm excited.
>>22179121But fair.
>>22180672And the one she has an affair with when Maria is 4, is the same guy who had a child with Rena's mother
>>22179235It's gonna be pretty late here too.I'll set an alarm.
>>22181399It releases at 3am here in France, I think I will simply wake up at 6 or 7 and have a full day of reading
>>22181161I could barely sleep today.
I feel bad that I played Higu and Umi with updated sprites but in the beginning as a Ryukishilet I think using his sprites would have made me less captivated in the world because I don't think I could have taken it seriously.I hope my replay with the old sprites will be a lot better.
>>22172787Greentext? Or summary?
>>22173794SO THATS FUCKING WHY WHEN I ASKED ALL THE VILLAGERS, EVEN THE ONES THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE HIGURASHI RALLY, THEY HAD NO FUCKING CLUE ABOUT LIFE SIZED STATUESFUCKI SHOULD HAVE SPENT THAT TIME TALKING TO THE DIEHARD HIGURASHI FAN WHO MOVED TO SHIRAKAWAGO AND WORKS IN A COMBINI, RATHER THAN LOOKING FOR THE STATUESwell, I didn't waste too much time looking and at least I got a consolation event poster out of it...
>>22181377Is this forReal
>>22181669Well, they are both called Akihito, Rena's mother and Rosa both are fashion designers, so that's very likely
>>22181057Depends on what you consider your end goal to be.
>>22181639You get used to the original sprites after a few hours of reading and I definitely express the character's emotions better than the updated sprites. They also have more charm to them - reading with the original Battler and Beatrice sprites is a whole different experience to reading with the updated ones.
>>22180749>>22179173was this in the original game? i don't really remember any rain effects, or any animated effects really. but i maybe i just forgot.
>>22181161I hope it's really good. If it's really good I'll post It's really good on that thread right now, right there, on that imageboard, right now. If it isn't I'll post that it is not good here on that imageboard.
>>22177645i'll buy them even if they were 8 episodes for 70 bucks each
>>22182186Sasuga Big Money Anon, I will not feel bad pirating it now knowing someone like you is throwing his money at the Ryukishi.
>>22182221i don't really have big money and i also pirate games but i like to support authors i really like
>>22182258But would you like to support Mangagamer? That's the crux of the problem. Would you like to support Ryukishi more than you'd puke at the idea of giving money to Mangagamer's Mafiosi practice?
>>22182258I do too but not when it's this pricey and digital-only.
>>22182280You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs
>>22182280He could just pirate the mangagamer version and buy the Japanese version.
>>22161399Is this an official manga ?
>>22182281I'm telling this to myself as well but it's just an excuse. I actually love supporting my favorite creators, I bought WTC, Ace Attorney, Yakuza and Kara no Shoujo games when they were digital only, but at that time I had a steady income, now I take pocket money from my mom like a pathetic NEET, so I can't be wasting it on digital releases.
soon
>>22182343beato :|
>>22182348anon :^)
>>22182310Actually an English patch is coming for the Japanese version so that's for the best
>>22178021because it's still better than the translation.also>10 years
Redpill me on MG. What are their sins?
>>22182441They have yet to release Higurashi Rei after announcing it 10 years ago.
>>22182428>>10 years"Learning a language" and "Reading with no additional effort compared to your own language" are two skills developed in much different timeframes.No shit you'd be able to read Umineko fluently after 3-4 years of study, but you're not going to enjoy it fully if you're significantly fatigued by it.
Okay I been WAY the fuck out from this series ever since Umineko ended, but I just heard the first chapter of WTC 5 is coming out tomorrow.Should I get hype? I loved Higurashi and Umineko, but never bothered to read Higanbana or Rose Guns Days. Does Ryukishi still have his touch?
>>22182464i definitely felt that he still had his touch after reading RGD, but others may disagree with this.that being said, i wouldn't be surprised if ciconia ends up being different in every way.
Holy shit guys, I've been waiting really patiently thus far but right now I can't contain myself, tomorrow can't come soon enough.>>22182464I think Higanbana and RGD are great and amazing respectively, RGD feels like his most well executed work out of the 4 and the Ciconia demo definitely feels like WTC. I say he's still got it.
>>22182462if you can read fluently you don't get fatigued
>>22182498>>22182525Sounds good enough for me. Hype engines, 60% thrust and climbing. Consider me strapped in, lads.
code vein's character editor is nice
Uh oh, Saku leaked!
I forget, why does Ryukishi barely improve his art even decades apart despite having the patience to write hundreds of hours of content?
>>22182635
Okay, how many more new characters can he include
I haven't touched the demo, but just looking at the trailers for Ciconia is anyone else worried that there's just way too much character bloat?Higurashi and Umineko had nowhere near as many of them right from the start. With how many there are in Phase 1 I'm already dredding a cast of like 30 characters by the time we get to 3/4...
>>22182696Umineko literally dropped 19 characters on our plate in the space of 2 hours.It made the intro to EP1 an absolute slog, but we got through it.
>>22182708It really doesn't feel like they were that many
>>22182696I think it will all work out somehow
>>22182696Just wait 11 hours for chapter 2
>>22182696yes. esoecially since they all have a similar position as gauntlet knights, which leads to even less variety. it'll probably be fine though. i already like gunhild's character just from the reading the recent tips.
Look who it is!
>>22182696I'm not worried, he's good at introducing and handling large casts. The demo already familiarizes us with 7 characters no problem.
>>22182781Who is it?
>>22182807#9, King Belial
>>22182819Shit, wrong list. Belial is #68.
10 hours and 40 something minutes left
Is the demo just the beginning of the game proper or something extra?I've been holding off resisting and avoiding everything related to Ciconia this entire time, but I really feel like just giving in and reading it now
>>22182852at this point you might as well wait.and i hope it's not the opening to ciconia.
>>22182852We don't know really. I'm sure it's just part of the bait
Who do you think will die first?
>>22182977He's going to take everyone for a ride and kill off Gunhild almost immediately.
>>22182977out of the warcats? jayden.>>22182981delete this.
>>22182977Okonogi
>>22182977Tomitake and Takano.
>>22182977Hopefully some of those awful diversity designs
Soon the game of my wife Miyao will be released. Be sure to buy it!
>>22182977I like anons' theory that the princess dies first to set off a political conflict.
>>22183038Miyao is a boy and I'm gonna pirate the shit outta it.
>>22182852It seems kinda obvious to me that it's the intro and the first chapter of the game, except if it's a huge bait
All WTC titles start like a bait until shit hits the fan
ryukishi constantly presents ciconia as a challenge to the reader. i honestly have no idea what to expect from this but i'm curious.
>>22183163The premise just doesn't seem to fit his usual murder mystery setup at all. I'm really excited to see what he's going to do with it.
>>22183173Probably politic crisis of some sort.
>>22183163We will have the most difficult mystery of all times and literally no clue to solve it
>>22183163In traditional R07 fashion all that really means is that almost everything you read will be a blatant lie with no discernable way to figure out what the real hints are until the answer arc.
>>22183182>>22183189maybe. he also keeps mentioning that it's "not going to be a fair game because one side is thoroughly prepared" or something along those lines. well at the very least it shows some confidence i guess.
>>22183207More like, because the readers are the pieces this time.
>>22183228I think this "game" is going to have three levels.1-The Kids (Gauntlet Knights)2-The Goverments of the new unions.3-A posibly Meta conflic involving gods/witches/other things related to the fragments.The Kids are pieces of the government and maybe the Governments are pieces or something otherworldly.
>>22183244>A posibly Meta conflic involving gods/witches/God I hate Umineko cultists
>>22183244That's literally just Umineko again, which would be boring and super predictable.
>Are you listening? You don't want to misunderstand your position. You aren't my opponent. You're merely a piece that exists for my amusement. In this next game, I won't give you the privilege of being a player!I can't wait.
Is Ciconia voiced?
>>22183331Why would it be?
>>22183341What was the first version of higurashi and umineko to have voice acting? Also, I'm a masochist, so please insult me.
>>22183352PS2 and PS3 remasters, respectively?
>>22183244>God I hate Umineko cultistsHigurashi also had a conflict with a God on one of the sides anon.>>22183315>That's literally just Umineko againJust because otherworldly beings or call them witches or gods appear it doesn't mean that it's going to be Umineko again, like I said to the other anon, Higurashi also had a conflict involving a god.There's going to be some otherworldly being involved in Ciconia at least that's what I think. The Sea of Fragments is something that ties the WtC games together.
>>22180526It's actually a new engine.Doesn't he have programmers or anything? You woukd THINK that if a key feature of your game doesn't work, you would work to fix it.
>>22182635>>22182638>>22182683>>22182781no es fake
Since it's already October 4th in Japan, toranoana lists ciconia and saku as "in stock".
Eight hours left
>>22183619How is everyone passing the time?Personally, I'm playing Witches & Woodlands.
>>22183468It's the latest in a long chain of ports/forks of ONScripter, and you can see that it's maintained by chronotrig (WH guy) on the ponscr.readme.txt in the demo's folder. Pretty sure it's the same thing used for the Steam versions. The port it was based from didn't have that feature for some reason and it seems it was really hard to implement with how everything was set up so I guess they gave up. It's open source anyways so theoretically anyone could contribute to it and they would probably use that as an update if it was something as significant as the animation stuff, but if nobody did that probably means it really is that hard to implement it. A more sane solution would just be scrapping NScripter altogether since it's shit and rewriting everything in another engine like Ren'py, and that probably does have something to do with 07th expansion themselves and how the guy that does the scripting just won't learn something new.Higurashi for Steam was made in a custom engine for example.
>>22183711I need to finish Rose Guns Days Season 2 but this Caleb arc has become such a slog
Anyone know how to buy the physical version of Umineko Saku as a gaijin?
I literally just remembered like 10 minutes ago that this is dropping today and not tomorrowAhhhhhhhhj
>>22178439MangaGamer.
>>22183781I actually never did this so I apologize if I'm wrong.You can use Toranoana, as far as I know. Register here https://www.aocs.jp/en, then order this https://ec.toranoana.shop/tora/ec/item/040030759238/You can also buy it from any of the places listed here https://07th-expansion.net/archives/4041 (look for うみねこのなく頃に 咲) and then have it shipped to you via some third company.
What kind of liquor do I buy to drink while I play ciconia, help
>>22184447Absinthe. Follow in Kinzo's footsteps.
>>22183781i think buyee handles all the storage and shipping thing for you, otherwise use any of the other sites and use blackship.com. also it's on amazon apparently (i havent used any of these myself, just know from some of the research i've done)
>>22184482But I hate black licorice!
>>22184447For quite awhile Reisling has been my 07th Expansion drink of choice. Bernkastel's favrotie, and it helps that I love it to.For a mixed drink you could have the "Endless June," what Rika drank when she was trapped in her cycle of endless torment: one part Reisling, one part orange juice, one part water. It's got a low-alcohol value for her young body, and you can drink more of it, allowing for a real slow simmer as you do all that reading.
>>22182441Porting things over to shitty, proprietary engines.Subpar translation with issues on fidelity, spelling, and grammar.Replacing most of the original music with their own.Changed the UI to include visually annoying buttons.Commissioned sprites for their Steam release.And, most importantly, they're a company specializing in English translation for profit. By definition, they're everything that's wrong with this world.It just baffles me how people are just pushing for those twats to take over Higanbana and RGD. I'd rather have them never see the light of day as official English titles.
>>22184635>Replacing most of the original music with their own.there is no way. this sounds so godawful i refuse to believe it.>And, most importantly, they're a company specializing in English translation for profit. By definition, they're everything that's wrong with this world.now you're just retarded.
Eta???
>>221846894 hours
>>22184689see >>22170966
So ciconia is 40 bucks? Any reason why i should go with steam instead?
>>22184738If you are living in a third world country it should be cheaper on steam, if not go for the MG version since it's DRM free.
For fucks sake, I'm moving in a few days so I have no money left to spend on Ciconia and no time to play it anyways. I am very sour.
>>22184855There has to be somebody left to initiate meaningful discussion after everybody else has gone back to verbally sodomizing miyao
>>22184900I guess, I'll have to avoid the threads for a while though. Shit just sucks, I won't get to start reading it properly for another 2 weeks or so.
>>22184855I understand. I can still afford it, but I'm also moving in a few days and have no time to play it unless I just don't sleep or something.
>>22184900Not verbally.
>>22184957Shit's been weird for me, I got back from Japan in late August (booked flight in part to buy Ciconia on release in Japan, got delayed after I booked) and then found a place to move to right after even though I couldn't really afford it. Then my neighbour's house burnt down 2 weeks ago and my house became uninhabitable so I live in a vacation home now, behind on uni stuff and with no money and most of my stuff in storage at a cleaning company (won't get it back for another 2 weeks or so).But that's enough blogposting kek
>>22184972calm down erika
>>22160903Ryu's crazy if he thinks people are gonna spend $40 on a single episode
>>22184689Carrero BlancoGeorge Gordo
>>22185023or maybe im the crazy one for doing so
>>22185031
>>22184650>this sounds so godawful i refuse to believe it.Believe it. That's what they did with their original (pre-steam) Higurashi release. There was a patch that added it back in but I think even the patch missed a few things. I don't know about the steam release and I'm pretty sure they never did it to Umineko, though.
>>22179447I'm not that creative, I'll tell you that.But here's the result of my autism, which I'll dump into a pastebin so I don't have to divide it into multiple posts. Needed something to distract me while waiting for Ciconia anyway.https://pastebin.com/98TW9Xfi
>>22184635None of these things are an issue with Ciconia though
less than 2 hours aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I usually pirate just about everything, and I mean I have terabytes and terabyes of shit. That said, I just preordered Ciconia and I hope /jp/ will too, because I really loved Umineko and I want Ryu07 to keep writing. If you have a disposable income, please consider supporting Ryu instead of pirating for a change - I can think of nobody more deserving.
>>22185238I agree, but I also think 40 dollars is a lot for just one chapter. I can't really blame anyone for pirating it
Poorfags will have to wait a while longer than 9PM I assume? I never see shit get re-upped instantly.
>>22185238I'm going to buy Phase 1, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to afford getting the rest of the phases if they're all 40 bucks. I do want to support Ryukishi though so I'll try.
COME ON ALREADY
>>22185301This, I hope he makes the newer episodes a little cheaper. But I don't mind it for now since this is my first chance to actually support WTC. I couldn't have imagined we'd ever get the English release on the same day as the Japanese.
I CAN'T WAIT ANYMOREPLEASE RELEASE IT NOWI'VE BEEN A GOOD BOY FOR THE WHOLE WEEK
>>22184635Most of these things were done because the author asked them to
Last minute predictions. Who will Miyao have sex with?
>>22185472Me (I hope)
>>22185472I hope Jayden gets to tap that manlet ass.
>>22185483Disgusting homos
>>22185472(You)
>>22185238I'd preorder it too but I want to see the price on steam first.Maybe I should just go for it.
>>22185238I mean, you just admitted you're a huge ass hypocrite. If you have terabytes of stuff than you've surely pirated things that deserved and needed the money.
erikachads rise up
>>22185555Nah, I don't feel like it. This level of procrastination is possible of Furudo Erika.
I bet Mariana will be one of the last to survive.
>>22185472Dunno but it'll be gay as hell
>>22185472One of the drug addicts will die first so no one will suspect anything.
>>22185555I was going to buy this girl I was talking to an Erika kigurumi mask but I couldn't decide on what facial expression I wanted it to have. Erika has a ton of great ones but I don't think they'd fit as a permanent expression
20 minutes!
https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1179911762633613313Translation:"Thank you for supporting Umineko for this long.It's been almost 12 years since that day. To everyone who supported it, and to everyone who challenged it anew.I invite you inside the cat-box.I'd be glad if you enjoy meeting Battler, Beato, and the others again."I tried.
Is the new content in Umineko Saku all at the end or is it going to be spread out throughout the entire vn?
>>22161286the umineko demo left me wanting way more than the ciconia one, despite the fact that the former is a lot less exciting. it's just kinzo talking with nanjo and genji and nothing else yet it fascinated me a lot more than Ciconia's cuhraaazy aerial battle and unlikable characters (so far).swear to christ if that cat bitch meows the whole chapter I will send a complaint letter
>>22185737oh and I'm also fearful of that frog mascot thing, hope it's used more sparingly than the demo made it out to be.
>>22185726It's coming.
>>22185758Fuck. I didn't mean to reply.
>>22185737That's because Kinzo's talk with Nanjo and Genji was mysterious and atmospheric, and drew you in way more than anything the demo has shown.
>>22185750I think I know where he's going with the frog.>I'm sorry dave, poyo!
>>22185750Plot twist: it's actually Lambda.
>>22185737What demo are you talking about? Umineko's 'demo' version was the entirety of EP1 back when I read it, unless there was a demo made for the steam release or something.
>>22185778it's a shitposter
finished masturbating to erika just in time
>>22185768This. It will definitely go psycho at some point.
Welcome to Disappointment.
>>22185791where was my invite?
Uminekokeks seething starting now
IT'S HERE BROS
>Coming SoonWHAT DOES IT MEAN
WHERE IS IT YOU HACK
COME ON
>>22185803I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually get shitposters that read Ciconia and nothing else.
GOGOGO $37 on steam
DOWNLOADING NOW
>$37.99And everyone was freaking out about how this game would cost $40. MangaGamer is here blessing us with affordable prices.
>>22185082Made me chuckle.
Okay, this is my last post here until I finish reading Ciconia. Have best girl.
see you on the other side anons
godspeed my friends
PLEASE SOMEONE UPLOAD IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>22185082What the hell are you using to simulate R07's backgrounds?
I love you all anons, see you all on the golden land
>>22185838This.
>>22185838We're all just waiting for this, honestly. Except for the one or two heroes that have to take the fall.
See you soon.Peace!
>>22185764exactly. I also really liked Higurashi and Umineko's quiet, isolated setting (a small isolated village and a sealed off island) and it seems like Ciconia won't have that and instead be more open, what with the characters flying around at crazy speeds.they also have a lot of fancy cg for the battles, and they went into great detail for them, which makes me fear that more of them will come. I liked the logic confrontations in umineko but this is something else and I hope it changes to fit wtc-style mystery more.>>22185778I got it from herehttp://www.07th-expansion.net/umi/soft/umi_taiken_r.htmit crashes for me after the kinzo scene so I assumed that was the whole demo. pic related it still does to this day. if it's not supposed to do that then I apologize but still, the point applies since I am comparing both series' first 15 minutes or so.>>22185781what
>>22185871yeah that demo is literally the entirety of EP1, no clue why it crashes on you.
>40 bucks is supposed to be 364 in my currency>the full price is only 279 on steamNice!
>implying Ciconia isn't just kids making stories based on their adventures in their new-fangled VR games
>10 dollars in RUStill not cheap enough.
>>22185907>RUWhat's that?
>>22185792>>22185768I think a rogue AI is a bit too cliche.
>only the first game and there's already 3 arc.nsasholy fuckhow long is this first episode supposed to be
>>22185915It may not be rogue AI specifically, but I definitely don't trust the fucker
>>22185911Russian obviously.>>22185907Shut up and buy it.
33 tracks. More than any of the Umineko Episodes
>>2218592010 hours
>>22185915Cutesy mascot character being evil is already a cliche as well. Please don't be that preditable, ryukishi.
>>22185838Sorry to keep you waiting anon. Enjoy!https://mega.nz/#!fRcCDKZA!rmOWLYZj5igFV4MHH4AsF91wzu2dD3jswK88FQqzYHI
>>22185953Thanks for the dolphin porn
>>22185957I wouldn't lie to you
>>22185928Thats 10 khachapuris worth of money for visual novel with no fap material and no witches, its too much.
>>22185953that'll be 100 million yen plus tax
>>22185953someone pls confirm i'm a pussy. I don't want a screamer
that intro though.
Isn't the PR video in the prologue missing the robotic voice calling out the names of the specific features of the gauntlet knight?
>>22186019Yeah, that was removed in the second demo too. Don't know why
>>22186028Sad. I liked that feature. Really added to that american comic book aesthetic they had going.
anybody gonna skip right to the ending to spoil everyone?
Holy fuck why did Ryukishi hide this egyptian sex bomb from all the pre release material
>>22186037doing it right now
my penis in miyaos mouth
>Ciconia will be a very critical work He wasn't lying
Why is the file version for the ciconia_phase1.exe back in 2016-6-15? What could it mean? Was the game already finished then? Is this some kind of hint?
>>22186079When Seshat appeared I laughed for thirty seconds straight. My body definitely wasn't ready for this.
He is saying Rosatrice and Shkanontrice theories can live in harmony, confirmed.
we Kali Yuga bros
>>22185953I don't trust this upbeat attitude you've got man
Ouch, the opening hour is rough. Exposition upon exposition upon exposition.
>>22186084I sense time travelers.
>>22185953anon will you pull through and upload saku when it comes out in english?
>problem children >supervised by a Canadian And yet they will probably take forever to get killed
Gunhild confirmed 1000+ years old witch. Nice.
>>22186004I took one for the team. Anon appears to have delivered.
>Koshka means CAT>Asuka has been mindfucked into saying MEOW like a fucking keropoyo ass bitch>Chloe has a hairy PUSSY according to that one guglielmo doujinWHO IS THE BERN HERE?
Who is this? 4 30? Something to do with Miyo whose name reads as 3 4?
>>22186163>You thought you'd get one Bern cameo in WtC 6?>TOO BAD, ALL THE GIRLS ARE A BERN CAMEO!Really Ryukishi is the 6d chessmaster.
So who is getting the Hideyoshi treatment the whole way through?My bet was on smug nun, but now she's black and that makes her more interesting.
I like Naima already desu
>>22186176Seriously, the Gaap girl is wearing Bern's dress and one of the cagandos looks smug like her.
Damn, I want to FUCK the smug out of Lingji.
>>22186187Jesus Christ, this is Ahegao Midori 2.0. I hope she lives, that's fucked up.
>>22186182Ishak instantly comes off as the guy no one is going to give a flying fuck about
>>22186187the color coordination on this team is horrible
>>22186123Yeah, in retrospect I realize that the wording sounds kinda suspicious. I'm just really excited today, for obvious reasons>>22186141Sure, I guess. It may be a while before we get that though
>>22186173Isn't that literally one of the passages from the Bible that Takano Hifumi kept quoting? The one about how you never know when you'll get robbed so you must always be ready to jump at a big chance.
>>22186197>one red, one green, one blue?????????
>>22186187Irie did the potara fusion with Satoshi and now he's drugging middle eastern lolis for a living. Becoming a doctor really paid off.
>>22186195He's a RGD mafioso cameo. Those guys are favored by Ryuukishi and they even appeared in Hou with a different design as street thugs (they were the three guys with the domino bikes that got arrested by Ooishi). This guy will be important. He's all the RGD goons combined into one man.
The LATO team is suspiciously absent. Hmmmmmmmmm..... HMMMMMMMM...
Well that got spooky pretty quickly
>>22186187So why is French Ange with the arabs? Did France finally succumb to multiculturalism in the future? Paris is already a muslim hellhole as we speak.
>>22186223This did it. I'm getting the fuck away from this thread until I have time to read it myself. I've been waiting nearly a decade for this shit.
>>22185953>it's realbased anon always pulls through
Why does the pink-haired idol nun look like a guy? She has that kind of boyish face/nose that makes her look like a tranny but in a really cute way.If she's really a girl, it's a really attractive design in my book. Cute! Cute!
>>22186182>the Hideyoshi treatmentYou mean who is getting <DEATH BY HANGING>? Probably the negro chick because that's what happens to negroes who don't know their place. They are supposed to be naked with a chain around their necks as they beg their masters for food scraps, not wearing a fancy dress and looking all smug.What even is a princess anyway? It if were a political thing and anybody could become one, it would be OK. But it being something you are born as, that's honestly bullshit. Blue blood mon cul! She's still human and shits like any commoner. Know your place!
Rethabile is either really short for her age or an actual 13 year old way younger than Miyao.
Uploading the sprites now
>>22186195>>22186218What's with his crazy scarf? Why does it float like that, why does it look like hands and where the hell is it coming from?
>Egyptian themed conspiracy>FOUR fucking traitors across all the gauntlet knightsjesus christhow can Beato's rule of two ever compete
That's fucking ominous, Jesus.
>>22186282Maybe the illuminati figured out reincarnation and are doing everything in their power to manipulate that shit to their benefit.
>>22186282Those are clearly skinny George and Hideyoshi. Not sure about the one in the middle.
>>22186267>wanting to see a nigger naked
>>22186305>George>skinnyha
Trying to remember all these factions, which countries are involved, and all the characters is making my head spin.
TRUST NO ONENOT EVER YOURSELF
ciconia is lewd
>>22185550Yeah, I'm sure that's true. But I like WTC enough to actually pay for it. For whatever that's worth. (I suppose, precisely 40 dollars)
>>22185953Is this for real? Fuck shoulda monitored the thread instead of refreshing that other site every 5 minutes like a retard. Thanks bro.
>>22186429Yes, it is real.
Hahaha what the fuck is even happeningI'm so confused but I love this
This is probably a dumb question but is there a way to hide the text box to view just the background image?
>>22186449right click and then hit clear in the bottom corner
spoilers for right after the arcade scene with jaydenI can't believe I jokingly called Miyao "Meow" and called him a girl even knowing he was a guy.Only to find out Miyao has a fucking split personality called Meow whose gender is female.r07 back on his bullshit
>>22186376
>Bernkastel and Rika are in the same body at the same time arguing with each other This is fucking great holy shit
her tits are actually so big
RYUKISHIIIIII YOU MOTHERFUCKER
I CAN'T STOP READING SPOILERSSOMEONE STOP MEEEEEEEEEEE
I'm craving spaghetti now that I'm playing it, probably because I was eating spaghetti while playing the demo last month. Also Miyao is making me question my sexuality.
He still fucking has it. The sadism is still there, after all these years. This is why I will never get tired of Ryukishi.
>>22186477>>22186513>fucking tear in the world>smug asshole comes through out of fucking nowhere>Miyao doesn't seem to have consciously registered the conversation at allThis has to be the new cutaway to the Meta-world, right? Only now it's some layer of VR that exists inside the brain implants?This is cool as shit
>>22186526I absolutely love it. It's beyond genius.
Meow is the AOU traitor. Miyao doesn't know. Calling it right now.
I'm losing my shit. Jayden is unstoppable.
>>22186526I know a guy with MPD. He has seven fucking people in his head. If he got one of these selcom things installed in his brain, theoretically they would all be able to show up in the mental projection VR rooms, although maybe not with their own mental self-images.
>>22186581Not all at once, though. Having more than two personalities co-front is a literal headache.
Three kings illuminati vs some weird scientist singularity? I like that.
>Jayden actually isn't gay>He just wants to fuck the female personality inside his male friend ButThat's still gayOr maybe it isn'tfuck
This is kind of bullshit. Ryukishi went full out with this Umineko multiple personalities bullshit except made 30% of the characters have DiD.
There can't be a cosplay of her soon enough.
>>22186668After Umineko, we found out all the cards in r07's hand. Now he's just trying to play them differently.
You cheeky motherfucker
The Hentai bomb.... humanity's greatest weapon.
Ryukishi is insane with his pinpoint fetishes.
>>22183717You do realize there's nothing good about localized Higurashi's engines, right? That "custom engine" is just Unity with a hacked-together text renderer, running the script of the 2009 version which is missing most of NScripter's advanced graphical effects.PONScripter is a mistake but if 07th had just stuck with NScripter there wouldn't be any problems. They're basically gimping their own novels now just to make it easier for current-year localizers to sell them. And Ren'py is fucking trash desu.
>>22186668I wouldn't think too hard about it, it does at least make sense in universe, but the application is more for fujo scenes than anything else
Oh god, 8MS.That opens so many possibilities. Shared consciousness over the planet, that kind of thing. Also seeing as it saved humanity after WWIII, which was when the 3 Kings failed to kill everyone, and the superlab is the enemy of the Three Kings, the 8MS probably comes from the superlab.How far does that rabbit hole even goes.
>>22186084It means the build of the engine they used is very outdated.
Fucking ((p)o)nscripter is a horrible thing. I was going to write an nscripter interpreter once; please don't follow my footsteps. If you want to read some *absolute* comedy gold read the documentation for Sekai's ponscripter fork. Good laughs were had and sad tears were cried.
Furries have trespassed on our sacred Otaku holy land. This alone is cause enough for another WW
>>22186788I'm not that insulted by it. I find Ryukishi's application for fujo is beyond genius.
You don't fucking say
>>22185953LINK DEAD FUCK
And Seshat is yet another faction.So we got the evil lab, the 3kings, and Seshat? With possibly "them" coming eventually to reap everything? Could "them" be behind the evil lab?
I wanted Miyao to be a girl, but not like this!
r07 is talking through the vn again
HAHAHAHAHA
>>22186865It's okay! There's still a chance!We don't know for sure Miyao has a dick! Miyao could just be the dominant personality in a girl's body!
I'm glad that it was handled intelligently but I feel like Meow is just unnecessary.
How is Ryukishi so good at Fujo shenanigans?
Son of a bitch. Ryukishi won't even give you the chance to guess who might be the traitor. You get no clues.
>>22186857I, a completly different anon, would like to request another link :))))
Gunhild definitely gives me the robot vibes. There have been so far three instances where the foreshadowing implied she wasn't human, didn't age like a human, and loved the idea of robot being able to love.Very subtle clues and foreshadowing. Will comb the story after I've finished it for more.
>I hope you're enjoying this funny SoL moment because everyone is soon going to dieRyukishi, fucking please, I know what VN I'm playing.
Just give me a working link. I won't tell anyone.
>>22186981>loved the idea of robot being able to love.Where was that said?
>>22187014When they were talking about gender not mattering when people love. Was something akin to "I don't care about gender, I could even love a robot."
>>22187026Was that before or after the gender reveal of Miyao?
>>22187014At the Meow date, Lingji said she could love any gender or even an object, and Gunhild immediately interject "I like that idea" or somesuch.Could be only random noise and I read too much into it, but with the rest, that's exactly the kind of stuff Ryukishi would foreshadow that way.
Miyao is a cute girlMiyao is a cute girlMiyao is a cute girlMiyao is a cute girlMiyao is a cute girl
>>22187065I'll keep a lookout for that upon a reread.
dude
Is this worth the $35 dollars?
>>22187194I'm gonna buy just one of them, maybe two if it's really good. Definitely not all 4 at $35USD dollars each
>>22187194Depends what you believe. Do you believe each episode will be $40?Or do you believe you're paying $40 upfront and the other episodes will unlock for free?If you're not a dumbass and believe the latter, ya
>>22187194so far yeah, though it's kind of crappy that the split personality that seems to exist purely for fujoshit and trans pandering has had more dialogue than the main one
REEEEE
>>22187203But people said that ryushiki apologized for the price being so high. >>22187210I am not even surprised by a split personality trope going on since they seem to do that in all the VNs so far.
>>22187218That's because he's charging full price from the get go, instead of when they're all out.
>>22187194You can pay 35 $ now for the experience to talk to people about your theories or wait two years for the same price but without the theory crafting and memes. The answer is yes. I'm having fun.
why are hideyoshi and george doing this
Imagine unironically thinking that someone would charge $160 for a full vn.
>>22187242>george>slenderhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19L7mHm675s&t=9
HE DID IT, THE MADMAN ASKED
>>22187248The Rance games have always been around $90, what makes you think someone wouldn't be able to do it?
>>22187265The rance games are really long and have a ton of gameplay/content to them.
>>22187223But how will people get the other parts for free?
>>22187272Speaking of which, how heavy is the full Umineko script again?
I just want to politely ask for a download link that works please. Thank you. I am far too poor to purchase this.
>>22187276Through steam? As free dlcs that require the main game.Through mangagamer? Just like an 18+ patch that requires the main game.>>221872781.2m words The script for Ciconia is 400k (episodes 1-4)
>>22187293So everything requires access to an external site? No buying discs anymore?
>>22187293>The script for Ciconia is 400k (episodes 1-4)You mean Umineko 1 thru 4 were 400k?
>>22187194I like it, but I'd have really preferred that Ryukishi didn't drink the kool-aid. Some of his sentences about multiculturalism and trasngender politics made me painfully cringe.Not enough to distract me from the story, but there have been four or five places that really could have done without an essay on the positive consequences of multiculturalism and accepting transgender identities. Especially when it slows down the story that moch. So far the love story between Meow and Jayden has been terribly paced and slow.Otherwise, he managed to topple all my expectations.
>>22187293>The script for Ciconia is 400k (episodes 1-4)How do you know that?
>>22187302>he managed to topple all my expectations.In a good way or bad way?
>>22187302I don't think you should think the transgender thing at face value. With the way the split personalities are going, I don't think it's necessarily a good thing.
>>22187311And it is mentioned in the first chapter. Obviously it is going to get more detailed into the story to the point where they flatout say it is a mental issue.
im cringing and smiling at the same time
>>22187298Yeah he's not selling physically. It's only sold through mangagamer or steam.He might sell physical copies when they're all done, who knows.>>22187301>>22187304I'm sorry, I misremembered. r07 made a tweet saying the script for ciconia ep. 1 was 400k japanese characters. I misremembed that as english word count for all 4 episodes. Script size is about the same as Umineko ep. 1
>>22187321It tends to do that to you, yeah.
>>22187210Yeah I never could've imagined that Ryukishi would put trans people and split personalities in a WTC, outrageous.
>>22187327How much money was Umineko ep 1 when it originally came out?
>>22187339Believe he charged the same as he did with Higurashi's episodes which were 1k yen each. Not 100% sure though, and there's no way to check now.
>>22187065Ehhh, it feels random. I think you're looking too much into it.
>>22187310In a good way. I have absolutely no idea where the story is going by the middle point. Be aware that it is very different from Higurashi/Umineko, with lots of different viewpoints, frequent cuts between characters/teams and new character introductions coming often mid-story bringing entire plotlines with them.Maybe it is a little too disjointed. The love story between Meow and Jayden is painfully slow in comparison. Also the first hour and a half or so is very rushed: it's basically a dry infodump with characters making funny faces between exposition. It's so bad I wondered if it was really by the same author that wrote the exceptionally good intro to Umineko.Yet I'd say Ryukishi has totally succeeded so far, because I have absolutely no idea what is happening or where this is going. I'd thought he couldn't surprise me any more after all his previous works but that beast is another thing entirely.
>>22187344Higurashi was a long time ago and he was a nameless guy until ep 5's release.
Was Keiichi cursing people and then them dying in Tatarigoroshi possibly him remembering previous iterations like he does later?
meow is a filthy fujo
Holy fuck this engine blows.Why does the text keep lagging?That's absolutely inexcusable for a VN.
GOD I hope Gunhild is a pathetic human with an ass and a hairy pussy. If she's a robot I'm dropping this.
>>22187366>implying she doesn't have artificial pussy hair
>>221873501k yen for around 10 hours of content is a pretty standard price. He could be the greatest and most popular writer in all of Japan for all I care, nobody would charge $40 for just 10 hours of content.He wasn't a nobody when Umineko came out, so nice point I guess?
why did ryukishi assign jews the roles of zepar and furfur
>>22187380speaking of jews
>>22187383What's the guy on the right wearing? Looks like a stethoscope.
Is it good?
>>22187402Haven't reached the inciting incident yet, but the lead up is much better paced than Higurashi and Umineko's first episodes before their inciting incident.
>>22187362Also I figured it might be just because of the English script, but it has the exact same nonsensical lag in Japanese.Even the options in the main menu take a while to appear every now and then and just feel all around laggy.Is nobody else having these issues? This feels borderline unplayable to me.
homosex and illuminati
>>22187415I'm not experiencing any lag or problems.
Does Saku take place after ep8?
The Three Kings are actually men of noble spirit and of pure heart. They want to rid humanity of the fags and trannies, but they're so embed worldwide, that the only way is through world war.
>>22187393My money is in some kind of medical device, like an oxygen tube or something. The guy looks too thin.
>people can have multiple personalities inside of them that can manifest at any time without their knowing>these personalities can also interact with the world via the webWhose to say the three kings aren't secret personalities of characters we already know?
Lewd nuns
>>22187433Ryukishi planned to release this on the same day as Joker to hint to his readers the clown world motive.
>>22187438I thought that too at first. Thinking that maybe they were people we know, but only their faces are covered, so we could tell from the rest of the sprite. Then I thought their meetings were in VR and they just changed their VR sprite, but if that was the case, they wouldnt need face coverings to begin with.
>>22187425That's really odd. I'm not sure what the problem possibly could be then. I tried running it from a different SSD and turned on compatibility modes, but that changed absolutely nothing.This is super frustrating, I was looking forward to this game for ages
>>22187433I don't even know. I'm at the point we discover the AOU is hopelessly corrupt and dysfunctional.Between the lab, the 3Ks, Seshat, possible aliens/gods interference, time travel (?), accurate future predictions, and the possibility they all live into a virtual simulation.I don't even know if the 3Ks are the baddies, the goodies, neutral, grey?
>>22187447Use a virtual machine? Another computer?
>>22187427please respond ive been wondering for a year
>>22187446The face covering can just be a red herring. Their whole appearance feels artificial. And Ryukishi has done things with this before, where he implied in Umineko that no one actually looked like their sprites.
>>22187458>where he implied in Umineko that no one actually looked like their sprites.Please tell me more, I don't remember this.
Honestly Jayden is gay for wanting to fuck Meow and not Miyao.
>>22187449The 3Ks are actually Bern, Lambda, and Featherine. They're trying to destroy the world to prevent humans from figuring out how to reach the meta.
>>22187465Anon, witches don't exist.
>>22187469Say it in red bitch, bet you can't.
>>22187465They're actually George, Hideyoshi and Rudolf
>>22187465Yasu, Yasu and Yasu.
alright guys quit posting screenshots now
>>22187476George the incel wants to wipe out humanity because girls don't like him.Hideyoshi sold too much of his company stocks and lost his food company. He started a candy company later on. He's flaming war so more gauntlet knights will be raised that need to replenish their glucose and buy up tons of his candy. It's a booming business.Rudolf is trying to impress a woman.Krauss is already on the moon.
>>22187461I believe it was somewhere in Requiem. I can't remember exactly.
>>22187489What exactly was said that implied that?
I feel like Ryukishi is really trying to be hip or something by making all this commentary about social media and other random internet stuff.
>>22187490I just did some research to try and jog my memory and found someone mentioning a line that said that Jessica both "had blonde hair and didn't look Japanese." Again, I can't confirm. I suggest rereading or searching yourself.
Jesus Christ.
>>22187505Hot!
>>22187481....He does know he has no control over how much can stream, right?Why does he want to do the same shitty thing every Japanese developers does on PS and suppress the ability to share his game?
>>22187496He has never had any problem referencing memes or pop culture. Talking about technology is fitting, either simply because of the sci-fi setting, or because he specifically chose the setting to tell a story about certain technologies.
>>22187521Yeah but so far I'm not saying any meaningful discussion about these topics, just haha adblockers am I right guys? DAE arguing politics on social media?
OH FFS, the weird glass detective agent dude is Miyao's FATHER!
This isn't how Finnish people act. Finnish people talk in whispers and look down when you cross them on the street.
>>22187539Atleast they got the meowing part right, miau miau.
>>22187539That is how Finnish people act when they have low glucose levels in their blood.
>>22187539That's how sober Finnish people act but Finnish people are rarely sober. Drunk Finnish people rant and rave the entire time.
who?
the 3D guns being shot from first person are a little much....
OK but where's the Saku download
>>22187579That's the Takano girl, the Jestress
Even in another world Takano still has a boner for one upping God. What the fuck is her problem?
Why do you people cringe at the mere idea of trannies or fags? As long as it's not SJW bullshit, I think it's an interesting topic. I have no problem with those things being included in a story, and you probably don't have a problem either. Don't let the SJWs win.It's true that in real life most of these "minorities" are garbage human beings brainwashed by puritans, SJWs and feminists. It's rare to find one who isn't a piece of shit. But this is fiction, so it's possible for a character to be LGTBPDFwhateverthefuck without them or the author being oppressive, anti-free speech, puritanical retards who get offended at every little thing.Ryuukishi even wrote several pedo characters and portrayed them in a positive light in previous WTC installments. He's not a fucking SJW. The only problem is that discord/twitter SJWs might think R07 sympathizes with their shitty ideas and ruin the fanbase. But it happens to every popular series anyway.
Reading through this without having read Umineko, did characters like Okonogi and Takano show up in there too or only now in Ciconia?
>>22187594Constants and variables
>>22187210>trans panderingdid you... read umineko, anon?
Anons, I have a quick request to make in these tumultuous times. I hope not all of you are focused on Ciconia because I just need something real quick, I'm not good with computer software so I'm unable to do it myself but I just want someone to extract the cheering/clapping sfx from the WTC games and add it at the beginning of the "Happiness of Marionette" soundtrack, then making it downloadable. Thank you very much anons
>>22187601Sort of. Depends if you think Lambda counts for Takano
>>22187601Okonogi was the head of this big corporation and wanted a rich girl to either give away her inheritance or to die. Takano doesn't show up in the main story. She does in a side story and it's basically her as a kid making a pact/promise to be herself.
>>22187595It's probably just a knee-jerk reaction. I had it too at first. We're just so used to dealing with the repulsive crowd.
>>22187601Okonogi has been in literally everything but Higanbana, because he wouldn't fit in an elementary school. It's always a different version of him, though.Takano didn't show up in Umineko, but an expy of Miyoko did and she played a major role in the story. She wasn't really her but could be considered a version of her in a way.
>>22187461Episode 1 or 2, where they comment on the portrait of Beatrice and talk about how her blonde hair means she's clearly a westerner. IE Jessica and the others would realistically look japanese than their sprites do. On the other hand bern confirms both she and erika have blue hair, though that might be more of a meta thing.
>>22187595Because it isn't that well written in Ciconia, and most of the sentences talking about it are cringe. Which, thankfully, only constitute maybe 1/12 of the work put together, a very minor footnote for now.Merely criticizing a work containing trannies and fags always seems to attract the worst kind of apologists. I am perfectly fine with a tranny. I'm not fine when Xe's incompetently written, and the whole Meow/Jayden really feel forced.I don't doubt that there is a reveal somewhere along the line, maybe Meow is a traitor, or a shared consciousness, or an alien, or a chip implanted inside Miyao, or something that'll blow our mind. No doubt about that. But her part in that game is by far the weakest.
Anyone dropping another link then?
>>22187636Oh, that's nothing too crazy then. I guess I didn't notice because I always just kind of implicitly assume that this is the case, that when characters look clearly bizarre and this is never commented on that it is just a stylistic choice and the characters don't "actually" look like that.
is this /pol/
Be careful
>>22187629The solution is not dealing with them. They'll put you in a bad mood and spoil your fun every time. They ironically "trigger" me pretty badly, and I'm completely serious.Just don't think about them. Don't even visit their gathering places. /jp/ is all we need. If you happen to find yourself in one of their shitholes, just grab all the rare pixiv fanart or whatever and get the fuck out of there.
>>22187646i cant believe everybody fucking dies in the end
>>22187595Ryu specifically called out and disowned binary thinkers like you at the beginning of the game. It's honestly hilarious that the mere existence of minorities characters makes you write all this and without a hint of self awareness.
>>22187595>It's true that in real life most of these "minorities" are garbage human beings brainwashed by puritans, SJWs and feminists. It's rare to find one who isn't a piece of shitAre you sure you aren't the piece of shit though.
>>22187655I think you're a 1bit, because his post was specifically about it not just being one or the other.
>>22187647>They ironically "trigger" me pretty badly, and I'm completely serious.Pathetic
I doubt R07 is actually writing for mentally ill /pol/tards, you better give up.
Does anyone have a torrent?
>>22187656It's true, don't deny it.
>>22187580Yeah. I agree. It was... unexpected.
I want Miyao to fist me with his gauntlet
>>22187671Ana Torrent a cute.
Why weren't you nigs asking for torrents here when the game dropped? I slept for an hour after it came out and the mega link still worked.
>>22187662>>22187662"Don't let the SJWs win""He's not a SJW"It's agressively defending a pro/anti "SJW" binary, anon. Plus the concession the idea lgbt people can only be "good" is obviously born from a binary thought process.
>>22187685*good in fiction
>>22187685I took his message as saying that not all of the lgbt crowd are the unsavoury sjws, and not to give it to those types. That there's an appealing middle ground.
>>22187675Yes, I trust anonymous retards generalization on /jp/ about people like myself. I will completely changed my outlook on this.
>>22187694>That there's an appealing middle ground.No, there isn't, the middle ground is not appealing. That is kind of the point.
>SJWMeaningless buzzword that doesn't mean anything. Beside, going by /pol/tards standards R07 is a SJW through and through since he wrote trans and gay characters.
Wait a minute... this is /jp/What's twitter and /pol/ doing making posts here?
jayden two timing miyao with himself
>>22187700>Spends years discussing Yasu's gender issue without problem here>New game drops>Suddenly people scream SJWSmells of /v/.
>>22187700welp, it all started in 2016....
>>22187700>>22187705Yeah the same thing happened when just the game's poster came out and /v/ made a bunch of threads that all devolved into Miyao's gender and how terrible Ryukishi was. You could tell when it leaked over here.
Okay R07, I admit, I like this quote.
>>22187711I got a good kick out of that one
>>22187705The climate has changed a lot in these many years, hasn't it? It's pretty wild to think about. Honestly I think I needed a new WTC right now. Makes you remember what makes humans beautiful regardless of identity.
israel started ww3 and nuked japan into two
There's no way someone could look at Umineko and conclude that Ryukishi is a strong supporter of transexuality. At best, he's sympathetic to their problems. But I don't know how you can read the villain of the story becoming a sexually-confused MPD mass murderer as a result of being made into a eunuch as anything positive about LGBTQ. The story is about learning to accept and understand anyone's beliefs. You don't have to actually LIKE the person.
>>22187719>But I don't know how you can read the villain of the story becoming a sexually-confused MPD mass murderer as a result of being made into a eunuch as anything positive about LGBTQ.Because the people in love with Beatrice accept her for whom she is and see her a person with value.The message of Umineko is that love is the most powerful thing and anything else doesn't matter (As long it's consensual, i.e. not Kinzo and Beatrice 2).
FOR FUCK SAKE SOMEONE REUPLOADED THE FUCKING GAME, I DON'T HAVE 40 JEWBUX TO SPEND ON ANOTHER GAME SO SOON
>>22187723Yes, and there's stopping you from loving Yasu despite their mental and physical problems. But at the end of the day, they're still problems. Yasu is still a person with thoughts, feelings, hopes, and dreams, that should be treated with respect despite the things they've done. But it doesn't mean that these problems don't exist or that they weren't a contributing factor to Yasu's insanity and willingness to kill.
Are the demos included in the first chapter or are they separate? Is there a way to skip past the demo content if it is included?
>>22187662wtf is 1bit
umineko saku upload when?
>>22187734A bit (short for binary digit) is the smallest unit of data in a computer. A bit has a single binary value, either 0 or 1.It means that someone is only capable of thinking in black or white terms.
>>22187731They're included. Just hold ctrl.It doesn't take long to skip over what the demo covered. It's the first part of the vn.>>22187734r07's idea of an NPC1bit is either 0 or 1he even specifically mentions that 1bit people only think in far left or far right terms
>>22187726Ask nicely.
>>22187737Haven't seen any yet, I'm dying to read it
>>22187747I hope it's not that long. My japanese is shit so I'll have to machine translate with rough translations on my own to read it.
>>22187730I mean, Yasu isn't even properly trans. She can't be a girl, but she can't also be a boy. In the end you can only deal with what you are given.
>>22187750>machine translatewitch hunt?
>>22187746Pretty please.
>>22187752No one is truly trans. You're born as what you are. If you're a boy, and you want to be a girl, that's too bad. You can cut your dick off and mold it into a fake vagina, but that doesn't make you a girl, just a mutilated boy.
>>22187719>villain of the story>mass murdererThat's super reductive of everything that happens of Umineko. The entire VN was a love story.
>>22187762What about intersex people
>>22187756Didn't witch hunt say that Ciconia is a priority and saku is on hold?They could have just meant it's on hold till episode 1 was done, but I assume they'll be too busy with upcoming ciconia episodes to be working on Saku.
>>22187758I've been patiently waiting all day too. Someone is bound to be nice enough for us.
>>22187773Everyone who has the vn is too busy reading it to take one minute to make a torrent for it.
>>22187730>theirI can't read your post seriously.
>>22187765It's really the same issue. Yasu can dress or act like a girl or a boy, but they can't do the one thing that actually defines one's sex. That's why they called themselves furniture. It's worse than being trans because you are just inherently abnormal, and not even accepting yourself will allow you to do the things that normal people do.>>22187764Well, maybe you can say Yasu is a tragic figure, but they certainly aren't heroic. And based on what we see, they at the very least planned to kill themselves and a bunch of other people over their own problems. The story may be about Tohya growing to understand and accept Yasu for who they are, but it's ultimately up to the reader to decide how they feel about a character. What's more important than the facts is how you feel about them, is what I'd say the story is more about.
Please keep politics out of our highly political alternate history/science fiction VN, thanks. Ryukishi never intended us to discuss the politics of his politic exploration.
>>22187781Sorry, I just don't like calling people who are not a boy a girl by he or she. Yasu is neither, so I use they.
>>22187726>>22187773I downloaded it from igg games like an hour ago, did they remove that or is that site filled with virus?
>>22187797Virus for me, can't access
>>22187797>>22187802Downloading from a link I got from there. I'll report back.
I can't believe Ciconia has the stroggification scene from Quake 4
>>22187806Can you post link?
Holy fucking shit the meat factory.
meow is lame, i wanted to fuck a fiesty miyao not another submissive twink
>>22187818Making sure it isn't a virus.
>>22187380im srs
>>22187826How would you know it's not some unknown and undetectable virus X?
>>22187826The virus is on the site, not the games usually
>>22187830>>22187832I'll probably just run a system scan later but lookie what I got.
Do we know when Umineko's translation might be released?
Tomitake.... at least reserve your pedophilic urges for those non blood related... and not male.
Do we know when Umineko's upload might be started?
>>22187685Learn to read you fucking retard. I think I made my point very clear and you still managed to interpret the completely opposite meaning.
>>22187853>you still managed to interpret the completely opposite meaningThat's a running theme in these threads.
listen, i just want to fuck chloe
>>22187868okonogi's sloppy seconds
>>22187868
>>22187694I was saying that there's nothing inherently good or bad about being a tranny or a homo. But there's no middle ground in reality because 90% of them are systematically brainwashed and turned into awful SJWs. At this point I can't help but be prejudiced towards those minorities because I expect them to be SJWs. And sadly, they turn out to be like that almost every time.That said, there's nothing wrong with "LGBT" shit appearing in a VN if the author wants to explore the topic or finds it interesting. We can assume that the story doesn't take place in a society where faggots and trannies are constantly brainwashed into becoming awful people.
>>22187868would coating your dick in maple syrup help with that?
I want to dip my dick in chocolate.When miyao has finished training, his glucose levels will be so low, he wont be able to resist sucking my dick!
>>22187889wouldn't that make things sticky and harder to thrust between her tits that way?
>>22187797>igg gamesGOD NO. They intentionally edit a random image file in every game they upload so they can insert their "visit igg games" shit.Do not use their version to preserve the game. It's most certainly altered in some way to include their shit somewhere.
>>22187868Juat read the Chloe humiliation doujins I posted in the last thread.
Mangagamer article says the price is higher due to the staff needed. So I imagine that the $40 price may be for for other chapters too if not around $20 or so. http://blog.mangagamer.org/2019/09/27/ciconia-when-they-cry-phase-1-preorder/#more-19171
Anyone play Ciconia halfway and the soundtrack somehow dissapear, anyway to solve it or set voice volume?
>>22187920>voice volumeUhhhhhhhhhh are you sure you're playing Ciconia?
>>22187836Can you post download link?
>>22187926Nah I'm aware that there's no voice for characters in Ciconia but it's the BGM completely dissapear which bother me
>>22187928don't be a retard
>Be Miyao>Your girl alternate personality and best friend are in loveBeing boy Miayo is awkward
>>22187868i suppose i want to fuck lingji too
>>22187980now you're talking good taste
Hey ryukishi, are you charging more because you spent a lot of money on those dumb animated cg scenes that feel out of place and actually take you out of the scene?
Damn. Ryukishi's criticism of mainstream media using invented extremists as scapegoats to invalidate a position is on point. That's basically what our mainstream media did with their incel nazi white supremacist... thingies of theirs.Pretty good, Ryukishi. Good head on your shoulder, good criticism, well explained, albeit a little overdramatized.
(((merchants)))
Ahh it's 6am, I'm feeling pretty tired.Judging by the game clock it has at least 3 more hours left.
>>22188040Did something happen in the end or is everything exposition? What's the main incident?
>>22188048So far there hasn't been a main incident, but like I said, there's still at least a couple hours left. It is building up though.
Dlanor is basically a gauntlet isn't she
>Child of manFeatherine is behind this in some way.
IPMA = International Peace Mediation AssociationA3W = After 3rd (World) WarAAIS = Aerial Augmented Infantry SquadP3 = Parallel Processing PowerCPP = Congenital Parallel ProcessorNPP = ? Parallel Processor8MS = ???I'm trying to get all these acronyms down as I read through but I think I missed two so far. What are NPP and 8MS?
>>221880788MS = 8 Million SystemThe N in NPP might be "natural"? I forget.
Rich anon gift gaem plese
>>22188089useful anon please put gaem on nyaa or something.
It's Lambda
Wait a second, what the hell are these arrows doing here? Perhaps she has a second form?
>>22160903>our opponent isn't here yetitaly and germany hidden team confirmedbattler and beato team will win
>>22186173the best fit would be in Mathew 24>42: Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.>43: But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into.
>>22188177She's so obviously androgynous that she has to have another male personality.
hello is this thread safe from spoilers? everyone is posting responsibly, right?
>>22188176Is that bad that I think Miyao's Dad has excellent taste in women? I mean, he hits on both Valentina and the Jestress, and they're absolute best girls in every scenes they appear.
>>22188177cheap programming spoil a traitor
>>22188177LATO has those too
>>22188215It just spoils a CPP individual, not necessarily a traitor. The arrows will give way to their other selves.
>>22188177>>22188225I wouldn't put it past R07 to have done something like that. This had to have been intentional.
>>22188176It has to be.The pink hat with a bow on it
>>221882253/4 spoilerThe Prometheus traitor comes from LATO, Seshat seems to come from LATO, and LATO denies all involvement or investigation after the traitor murder.Could be LATO Prometheus controlled? Could explain the later (last minute spoiler)peace conference bombing.
>gloria da lobitoNice naming Ryu.
Is Rika in or what? I've seen Takano.
>>22188299so far i've heard lilja say nipah randomly in one early scene
when will the soundtracks get uploaded on youtube? holy shit there are some great ones
miau
>That first scene after reaching midnightUh. Uh-oh.what
I am cagando myself for a link please anyone?
>>22188353I want to make her meow
>>22188382The boy one or the girl one?
>>22188393Meow.
>>22188397 How hot do you think the Miyao/Meow Doujins are gonna be?
>>22160903fuck guys ryukishi confirmed!!!!shkanontrice is fake and manga only!!!!!!!!
That's just too cruel. Ryukishi, have mercy.
I had to stop last night around the time koshka was being operated onIs it still kino
>>22186267Why do black girls have such pink pussies anyway?
>>22187897This.
Why is Ciconia such a CPU hog? Or is it just because I'm using WINE?
When Valentina was gushing gallons at the devastated beach listening to that dude, I suddenly realized a possible theory."Them" and "they" are witches. The crazy bastards are trying to summon the attention of a witch/player by destroying the world. Surely, if humanity was to die, then it would be an interesting tale for a higher being, right? The goal is to force a game witch a witch, and then win (?), and then allow humanity or a portion thereof to transcend (?).
I wonder what happened on 1908-06-30. What could it mean?
>>22188753I think it is the date the thing was found. By deciphering, she meant the thing, not the date.
>>22188767This is just like the date code in Umineko. The date means something.
>>22188753>>22188767Though we get a 1994-03-05 later. Is that a significant date in Higurashi/Umineko? I can't tell.
I love Seshat
>>22188820Sexshat
black-suited man because he have a black suit or because he is black?
>>22188881Hyphen indicates the former. He's not "Black Suited Man", he's "Black-suited Man".
>>22188881He's a black-suited man not a black suited-man. Well he is, he actually is a black-suited black man. Or, more concisely, a gentlenigga
After a huge marathon since release I finished it. Its definitely a WTC. It was drastically different to what had come before it but still had that same sense of leaving the reader reeling in shock and confusion at the way it ended while also being as different to higurashi and umineko as umineko was to higurashi. I'm definitely looking forward to more. Wont post spoilers because ik some retard will look in this thread despite not having finished.
>>22188820Seshat source?
>>22188901I just finished right now. I'm at the ending reel. I literally don't understand what just happened. I have several theories, but I'll need to slowly digest it and reread several times.Some things are obvious, others really not. Others conclusions/interpretations are mutually incompatible.
>>22188911>>22188753So Seshat is Feathrine?
>>22188912what did you think of it though? same feelings as me?
>>22188923>>22188912>>22188901No spoilers pls, I probably have another ten hours to read.
>>22188920Seshat, is, for lack of a better term, what appears to be one of the players (?) of the game (?). She has her own bizarre agenda, her own organisation, but things doesn't quite fit. She has no obvious link to Featherine I can see of. Except maybe animal features.More accurately and spoilery, she is the Grand Master of the Order of Prometheus, an order splintered from the Nine Prime Knights under the Three Kings, but which has diverged in doctrine since then. She's independent. The goal of her Order seems to be "to save the human race", but this "isn't the time right now".
For anyone having problems with laggy text/ menus, seems like it's caused by having an xinput device plugged in. The second I unplugged my DS4 it started working flawlessly for me.
>>22188933fuck off from this thread then faggot.
BASEDBEST GAME QUOTE EVER!!!
Is there an auto scroll button?
I'm in the middle of reading ciconia but i have to take a break to say happy birthday best girl~now its time to leave before its too late!!!
>>22188943>She has no obvious link to Featherine I can see of.Well Seshat being here can prove that Ryu actually was thinking about it deeply on Egyptian lore with previous works.
where on earth did Ryukishi find a filter that handles color gradients and edges this gracefully?
>>22188972Why the fuck is miau crossdressing?
>>22187383>puts in Jewish characters>promotes homosexuality and pedophiliawhat the fuck did r07 mean by this?
>>22188923What is obvious is what happened with the disjointed Christmas Party. Everything was right, until a mix of pressure from the military, actual military shooting, and the 4 traitors into the ranks made everything explode into full on war. Chloe is most probably a traitor? Seeing what happens.What I can't understand or assimilate is the meta-narrative. Not because I can't theorize, but because I have two conflictual interpretations which can't be true simultaneously. And they don't quite fit the facts alone.There's the obvious VR narrative with the meat grinder putting people into VR and the obvious question during the feast and evil programs and Kero. But this answers nothing about the Order of the Lost Ark, nothing about the Three Kings, nothing about the bizarre time travel elements interspersed through those plotlines. And what was Miyao programmed for? For what reason? Purpose? What the fuck?Then there's the time travel/alien objects narrative. The Lost Ark have a time machine? They want to use it? The Orders find objects of powers, "Wisdoms", possibly alien in origin, but in fact linked to Miyao? But what of the VR meta-narrative then?Add to that that I have not the faintest idea of the goals of the "Players". Which, at least, I think I have a decent grasp of: Mother/Kero, Father, 3Kings, Seshat, Jestress.I think that what Ryukishi meant by not being a player this time. Sure. Miyao is not a player. He's a piece, that is obvious. And there are players, but I don't understand about what they want.
>>22189001basedciconia real name is:WHEN TUMBRL TRANNY MENTAL ILLNESS CRY
>>22189015I'm actually hoping this keeps /pol/ retards away but I'm also scared at the slight possibility it will get more popular with the tumblr crowd. Maybe Tomitake's based pedophilia will be enough to scare them off.
>>22189037Nah dude Umineko already did that, just with the obnoxious twitter crowd.Just ignore the outside chan-fanbase and you'll be fine.
About to start Ciconia. Does it have natural stopping points like Umineko? If so, how frequently?
>>22189051It kinda does? I'm like 5 hours in. Just stop after the chapter you're reading is finished.
>>22189051Yep. Every chapter begins with a quote like that: >>22186173. You can stop at the quote. A chapter is what, a little less than one hour, something like that.
>>22189037>>22189050waste 2 hours with tranny propaganda.image waste 40$ for a gender study lesson
>>22189075Maybe its criticizing how dumb it looks? Maybe its just showing the extremes.
>>22189075>Implying I bought itnice try newfag go back
>>22189075Just fuck of already Jesus ChristDon't go into threads just to shit on things, let people have fun. 4chan is a website for casual conversation and engaging in hobbies together, not serious political discussion or viewpoint-pushing.
>>22189100>Don't go into threads just to shit on things, let people have fun. 4chan is a website for casual conversation and engaging in hobbies together, not serious political discussion or viewpoint-pushing.reddit.com enjoy
>>22189117No, you fucking idiot, it's literally the opposite. Reddit is the site where everything is about politics and having the correct opinions. 4chan is the site where people come to engage in weeb hobbies and don't take things seriously. *YOU* are the newfag Reddit generation.
Cringe.
>>22189129cuck is madahahahhahahahahhahahaha>Reddit is the site where everything is about politics and having the correct opinions.so why my fucking WTC MUST HAVE GENDER POLITICS SHIT!!!!!WHERE ARE MY FUCKING MISTERY AND MURDERS!!!!
I feel bad for pirating it now. Actually considering throwing money at it after completing it.
>>22189129Just sayin', but complaining about /pol/ is indeed pretty reddit. We had monthly Hitler threads on almost all the boards in 2011-2012. The last one that survived the grand reddit influx of tards disappeared from /3/ something like a year ago?No fun allowed, everything must be hard politics, can't take a joke, all pretty much reddit.Just look at the sheer amount of hate funny tranny discussions about a game featuring trannies bring nowadays, in that very thread. Cheer up. Relax. It's just tranny jokes. Don't take that too seriously.
>>22189155Yes I am pretty mad, you're the worst shitposter we've had here in a long time. You say the same stupid shit every thread and it's some mixture of your schizo conspiracy theory, your retarded theory nobody here takes seriously, and your hot political opinions.I don't really like the whole multiple personality and tranny shit either but there's no point in stating it several times in every thread. Ryukishi might be puting gender politics into WTC but *YOU* are putting gender politics into this thread. Just accept that nobody here fucking likes you and people won't start taking your asinine bullshit seriously even if you spam it like your life depends on it. If you think you have something so important to say then write a detailed blog post about it or make a youtube video, then you can have all your theories and opinions in one place for anyone that's interested in them.>>22189183The issue is that people starting thinking 4chan is serious business. 4chan was always about lulz and lonely people casually talking about their common interests. If /pol/ was just nazis casually talking about and having fun with their ideology in their own board then there would be no problem at all. At least on /jp/ the mantra of "taking it easy" has been pretty well preserved.
>>22189172>falling into obvious bait
>>22189205>you're the worst shitposter we've had here in a long timethanks i am very proud of itmake mad normie is too good>youtube videosorry i am not a normie like youi dont put politics in my post i hate when people put their lefty shit in my games!!!i can accept myao trans but not others characters that make me a moral about how i am bigot and how homosexuality and trans mental illness are good and normal!!!!leave your tumbrl shit out of my game and i leave my rage out this thread!!!
>>22189239Right in the beginning there is a discussion how left and right ideologies are primitive low IQ perspectives of the human mind do you still think the whole thing is left propaganda?
>>22189254Just ignore him dudeHe's obviously just trolling/shitting up the thread
>>22189254>how left and right ideologiesajahahahahahahahahahhtranny shit spottedwhat are you strasserist,nazbol eccfun fuct you are left wing!!!!if you are too stupid for understand something this dont mean that something is wrong
I don't get why they have such fixation for sugar did diabetes turned out being some disease of the past with technology?
>>22189274>why are anime girls eating desserts?Ryukishi is a fan of KEY and they love doing that.
>>22189274something with Spiritum conversion requiring glucose brain power
>>22189239Yes but you double nigger don't you see that nobody in this fucking thread is putting trannies in your game? Ryukishi doesn't browse this fucking thread. You have the right to be angry if you think a disagreeable ideology is being shoehorned into something you love but the right place to do that is not here. Nobody here has anything to gain from your barely intelligible verbal diarrhea.Again, if you think you've discovered some important truth either about the true culprit of Umineko or about MG scheming to do this or that, you should turn it into a coherent story and put it somewhere where people interested in it can actually engage with it. If you actually think this is that important then you're doing yourself a disservice publishing it as incoherent transient anonymous 4chan posts.
>Tomitake got to hit on LambdaGoddamn.
>>22189284>is being shoehornedWhat the fuck does it mean? It's a new story he just wrote from zero and he's writing things he like.Some people here are throwing a fit because they can't accept writers are people too with their own ideologies.
>>22189293I don't think that, personally, but the shitposter does. Hence "if you think ..."
>>22189281So artificial pancreas? Genetic modifications?
>>22189284>incoherent transient anonymous 4chan posts.here people are enoughti explaine my theory very well here and now that ciconia exit more people will be here and my theory will become famous>You have the right to be angry if you think a disagreeable ideology is being shoehorned into something you love but the right place to do that is not herethis is a thread and i explaine what of ciconia i dont likei like very well war,borders,studentss philosofyjust i dont like floridman and cat date
>>22189303pretty much just >>22189279
Anyone has a dl link? Since the mega one is dead
>Leave politics out of my gameslol
>>22189307The one time Ryukishi got to write for KEY, he made his title character eat insane desserts.
>>22189305>explaineIt's "explain", you retarded sandperson.
ryukishi personally drawn nude mod when
>>22189305>i explaine my theory very well here and now that ciconia exit more people will be here and my theory will become famousI've actually come to more or less believe in your Erikantrice theory, but you're doing it a great disservice by not having an official thesis written up in a PDF file you can link to.
>>22189331ok i will write it with latex
>>22189339Great idea. You could also add graphics/diagrams to illustrate your point for the people who wouldn't want to decipher your English.
I found the focus on gender identity and the way it's being presented somewhat off-putting at first (personally, I don't believe genderdysphoria is any more of an identity than being manic-depressive is - people just have a tendency to fall in love with their problems and identify themselves by them), but seeing how it's being developed I think Ryukishi is doing a good job presenting how the discourse on sexuality functions in progressive circles in our society, just like in Umineko he allowed his characters voice and act out their traditionalist values (with the order of succession that places some people firmly at the bottom based on factors that are thoroughly out of their control, Eva missing out on being the next successor because of her sex, trying to find a suitable wife for her son and so on). Basically, for now I'm willing to trust that he'll develop these themes honestly and present the advantages and problems of different ideologies, social conventions and political stances without trying to sugarcoat anything.
>>22187920Did you manage to resolve this? Same thing just happened to me.
>>22189368It depends, but I think he's fucking with us.One second the main character has voices in her head telling him everyone going's to die and he will kill x and another moment Rykushi begins treating Multiple Personality Disorder like a sexuality. It just doesn't fit and it was really jarring when I read it.
>>22189382>One second the main character has voices in *his headFuck my dumb ESL ass
anyone think that the jazz track sounds a bit weird/broken? but at the same time it might be intended.
>>22189381press m
>>22189347the problem is the timeit will take some thimesbut i cants lose ciconia threadi do this image what u think about it?
takano living the dream now
>>22189458>both cunny and old Takano are 10/10truly best girl
>>22189458
>>22189368You have top of the pyramid characters complaining about how humanity has sort of no solution to work out by masses being dualistic in their perspective and going for extremes, as far as I read until now it just showing the "facts" how things turned out in the future and we are the ones judging it as players. I am fucking curious about Seshat:>Seshat, (...) was the ancient Egyptian goddess of wisdom, knowledge, and writing. She was seen as a scribe and record keeper, and her name means she who scrivens (...) and is credited with inventing writing. She also became identified as the goddess of accounting, architecture, astronomy, astrology, building, mathematics, and surveying.>Mistress of the House of Books is another title for Seshat, being the deity whose priests oversaw the library in which scrolls of the most important knowledge were assembled and spells were preserved.
Where can you get it if not IGG?
>>22189499Steam and the MangaGamer website :^)
>>22189499some /v/irgin uploaded their own mega, check the archives retard.
not gonna lie, im really not that impressed with the soundtrack so far
>>22189531>12_peritunematerial_ominous3_calm?Ok I think you can say its nothing special but gives me some vibes for me.
>>22189530Thanks for telling me, but It's dead.
Fuck the translator that used 'normie' instead of normal, that shit made me physically cringe. Stop trying to fit in normalfags
>>22189551miyao looking like hes about to fucking murder someone
>Miyao is a dudeNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>22189531Really? I think it's pretty good. Not as good as Umineko but the best Umineko tracks didn't appear in the first episode either.
>>22189549Funnily enough, that was my favorite track so far. Real good shit.>>22189599I guess so, I guess I'm just a bit dissapointed that there wasn't a golden slaughterer moment or system0.
SOMEONE REUPLOAD IT
>>22189626theres a torrent pls>>22189605yoshikawa being dumb for quitting music also triggers me
>>22189571Fucking -masses- reeeeeeee
>>22189605Well Umineko set a really high bar, it has some of my favourite music ever in general, not just as OST.
>>22189571Give a better translation to リア充 than normies. I always see people complaining about it, but never giving out an alternative.
wheres tits comparison anon we need to properly settle which country has the healthiest girls
>>22189700>implying Erika's breasts are larger than Ange's.
>>22189700Canada at #1
>>22189730diet of pure syrup
Umineko tl when?
>>22187539She's also a tad darker than everybody else. Probably mongol genes.
It took me way longer than I'd like to admit to realize that there's two Japans in this.....
Jayden's line about Ciconias and human birth when he's on the date with Meow seems like it's really important
>>22188753It could be two people's birthdays, just like the code 07151129 in Umineko.
The AOU feels like the kind of dystopia that we're actually heading towards if you take out the teenagers eating shotas and lolis angle
My dick inside Valentina.
>>22190110>*goes to the menu and clicks through to everybody to remember that name again*
The fuck is this trannieshit? Neo Akihabara furries? What the fuck. Is this witch hunt work, are they compromised? I refuse to believe ryukishi wrote this. Gayshit and traps, whatever, but all this talk about genderneutral toilets in my nakukoronis is kimochiwarui as fuck.
>>22190201Yeah I'd never imagine Ryukishi of all people would write about trannies
Is it just me or does it feel like that there are some parts where Ryuukishi took heavy inspiration from Hideo Kojima.
>>22190201It's so fucking jarring honestly, a part of me hoping's this is all a setup and the dude's fucking with us heavily.
>>22190236Be more specific
>>22190236In what way and fashion?>because he's a hack lmaoor a real inspiration?
>>22190236Honestly I see a whole lot of Persona 5 in this game, especially with the way the generational divide and social media are focused on. Both games also insult a specific demographic very similarly though Ryukishi focused more on the inherent lack of discourse than on the struggle to get through to other people.
>>22190218Lion wasn't a tranny!>>22190236All nanomachines shit actually reminded me of Lain.
Is it on Nyaa yet?
>>22190201The 3 king are the good guys want a new world war for kill all the furriesMangagamer force him to do tumbrl when they cry
>>22190341Guys this please stop getting triggered.
>>22190346Why you like so much furries and trans?
Meow was being pushed for so much of the middle part of this episode but it's like r07 forgot Meow even existed for pretty much the rest of it.
>>22190201It as if you forgot about Yasu and everything else Ryu has written.And WH already stated they never took part of the writing process except name correction.
>>22190359He's doing the ol' switcharoo isn't he? Introducing a romance plot that doesn't end up going anywhere because it's being overshadowed by larger events out of our characters control. Reminds me of the bait-and-switch romance in grave of the fireflies.
What if ryukishi was a closeted furry degenerate all along? Think about it — we've got Sakutarou, weird obsession with mascot animals, loli- and shotacon, incestuous undertones, Beato's mutilated cock, psychotic depictions of ultraviolence and history of lessons about bad bullying... It was here all this time!! I never tried to mirror his work on his persona before, but now I feel like the guy can be kinda fucked up in the head.
>>22190374Most of the art he's done outside of sprites for vns are lolis, and several of them are handcuffed/chained.
>>22190383Trannies and furfags has a long history of praying on minors, with no regards to gender, thats like the major part of why people hate on them really. Nobody hates dragqueens or regular faggots as much. The fact that ryukishi loves depictions of sadism involving little kids kinda creeps me out now, I'll be honest...
How did some of you survive Beatrice having a dick? Must have been traumatic.
first /v/ came and now discordtrannies are arriving in full force
>>22190411Yasu was a boy, what else is new. He crushed his dick on a rocks accidentally, not on purpose.
>>22190411Meta Betatrice never had a dickYasu had a benis for about 3 daysAll previous BEATORICHEEEs were women, eat shit nigger
This whole "SJW" thing is a big nothingburger. Yes, Ryukishi isn't afraid to portray homosexual relations and transsexuals. Everybody here fucking knew this already. There isn't really much in the way of propaganda or even an overt opinion in Ciconia. Yes, you can make an educated guess as to what Ryukishi's opinion on the matter is, and it is a theme in the story, but other opinions are still respected and the reader isn't being lectured to. If you don't want to read a story with these themes then fucking don't, at least it's very upfront about it (as opposed to Umineko).>>22190372I genuinely don't remember any kind of romance in grave of the fireflies and I watched that movie less than a week ago.>>22190374You're only figuring this out now? At the very least Ryukishi is a lolicon and into torture and bullying, incest, and probably traps.
>>22190357I dont this is why I am waiting for illuminatus to purify the land
>>22190443>probably
>>22190443>There isn't really much in the way of propagandaAnon, the whole thing is non stop propaganda!
>>22190439>>22190442So denial. Noted.
I don't understand how Ryukishi expects me to focus when Chloe's on screen.
What the fuck is a cranial secretion, 3 euros what are you even talking about.
>>22190478french ange is a braindead austist
>>22190462No, just showing a thing isn't propaganda. Like I said, his opinion does show through insofar as that someone who was against these things wouldn't write about them in such a manner. But it's not propaganda. It's not meant to convert you to a certain way of thinking, or demonize another way of thinking. It's just a portrayal of these things from Ryukishi's personal perspective.If you consider these things to be so dispicable and you can't comfortably read it even with the knowledge that it's a fictional children's powerpoint presentation then just don't fucking read it. If homos and trannies make you this angry then clearly Ciconia just isn't something for you.But I don't see why this should even matter. I can enjoy a work of fiction even without agreeing to most of it. I personally also think trannies are mentally ill and that most gays are just perverts. But it doesn't matter because Ciconia is a VN not a fucking political treatise, I can accept the world of fiction or just disagree with certain messages and still enjoy the thing overall, and I especially don't need the author to personally share my beliefs to enjoy reading a fucking thing.
>>22190443>You're only figuring this out now?I thought it was just his style, but now I don't know anymore, under certain context it starts to look less like a stylized writing and more like a wanking fantasy of mentally broken psychopath.
So what are the chances of Miyao getting dicked? I'll buy it if he does.
>>22190493If you think you're a "mentally broken psychopath" just for getting off to lolis being bullied you need to get the fuck out of /jp/. Seriously, how the fuck did you even find this place? Whatever made you think you were among your peers here?
>>22190499anon is unsure where his life choices have led him
Though I'm thoroughly enjoying this--the political/peace conversations are getting really old. They're all the same and you know exactly whats going to be said, how everyone will react, and how the conversation will end. I hope to god this shit doesnt carry over into other episodes.
>>22190447Based anonGeorgeluminati will destroy all degenerancy
>>22190511>he doesnt realize george is doing this to get more 13 year old cunny
>>22190502Heh, I guess it happens. I went straight to jacking it to cartoons at age 11 so I never went through this phase but I do see that most people go through a phase of moral objection before they just give in. Still, though, how does one make it all the way to /jp/, then read Higurashi and Umineko (presumably he's read both?) before figuring this out.>>22190510It's just a WTC thing, Ryukishi is very heavy handed with beating you up with some motive before destroying it.
>>22190520If the majority of humanity is wiped out... there will be a push to increase the population again. I'm sure having sex with a loli would be acceptable for the good of mankind.
>>22190499I thought this place was all about detective work and memes, not gonna lie. I never cared about guroshit.
>>22190341>carnivorous plant shopSomeone explain to me why this is bad, again?
>>22190490>But it's not propaganda. It's not meant to convert you to a certain way of thinking, or demonize another way of thinking. It's just a portrayal of these things from Ryukishi's personal perspective.I agree, but I think this is actually what makes his writing style controversial. He doesn't really attempt to justify his perspective, so if it doesn't gel with someone, they tend to get really mad. For example, I think if he had tried to make a convincing case for his perspective on the truth, people would have reacted a lot less negatively. At least it wouldn't have been such an extreme split into hate it or love it.
>>22190533/jp/ is where i can post well drawn and explicit drawings outlining clownpi's barely covered cunny without getting banned for it like in other boards
>>22190538It's inevitably gonna result in a split because it's just a controversial issue. For what it's worth, I think Ryukishi made it very clear what he thinks when he wrote about about the 1-bit humans who try to divide everything into left and right. That part was definitely meant to address this to the reader, in my view.>>22190533/jp/ is cunny central, it's basically the unofficial lolicon board at this point. At the very least it's occupied by the worst kind of perverts.You don't need to share in our perversion to enjoy WTC but you really shouldn't be so surprised or horrified at realizing that Ryukishi obviously beats his dick raw to Satoko's torment like the rest of us.
>>22190443when lil kid and his sister stay at one of their parents relatives there's a few interactions between him and the daughter of those relatives that build up a developing romance before they run away because the aunt(?) starts being increasingly nasty because she's worried about them having to share what little food they have with these strangers
>>22190571Oh yeah I remember that, that was very brief though. I wouldn't call that a bait-and-switch, just fleshing out the characters a little. I think that's part of the strength of Ghibli, including these little details that don't go anywhere that really flesh out the world.
>>22190490The whole thing is, at least, in universe propaganda. And no, no just about war. And you know how Ryukishi handles the meta. It is propaganda, not necessarily in the way that people are saying it is or you are trying denied it is, but it is and that fact is inescapable.
>>22190557>You don't need to share in our perversion to enjoy WTC but you really shouldn't be so surprised or horrified at realizing that Ryukishi obviously beats his dick raw to Satoko's torment like the rest of us.I think both the inference and conclusion here are flawed. Ruroni Kenshin doesn't have much in the way of pedophilia, and the little that's in there it's portrayed as a bad thing(and the underaged individuals tend to be like 16, or 17). But the author downloaded literal terrabytes of actual child porn.Likewise, tons of directors whose films have nothing to do with pedophilia or rape, have raped children. And conversely, tons of people whose films contain dark messages, are saints IRL.There's not always a correlation, or even an inverse correlation, or even a connection, between the themes in a work and the creator's relationship.
I am not liking the backgrounds.
why do you guys like calling someone's viewpoint you dont agree with propoganda
>>22190594Because it is.
>>22190589what the fuck are you on about
>>22190605He's trying to defend the viewpoint that Ryukishi doesn't like cunny. What an idiot.
>>22190604if you have the viewpoint that we shouldnt practice daylight savings time can i call that propoganda
>>22190520Who is the 13 yo cunny
>>22190577There's a lot of worldbuilding that happens "on the side" while the main story is developing, but Miyazaki generally *doesn't* have romantic plots going nowhere - rather, he's big on fateful encounters that mean a lot more than they initially seem to. Which is why in Fireflies I think many people were taken off-guard by the direction the story took because the budding romance seems like a kind of promise that "somehow, this innocent first love will turn things around for them", like it'll be the key to resolving the mounting tension.
>>22190626i havent read it in a while but yasu was 13 when full grown ass man george got jealous of battler right
>>22190614Yes.
>>22190590why
>>22190594It's probably because it's not just written in the vn normally like everything else. R07 practically talks to the reader through the characters, like he's giving a therapy session. He did the same thing with the gay/mpd/trans thing. For like two entire scenes you have several characters all parotting a specific view. It's just that he devotes so much to the topics out of nowhere all at once. "Let's make this character ignorant so I can have all these other characters say what I believe."
>>22190632Sounds like /ourguy/
>>22190632Yasu was a woman
>>22190654k?
>>22190654Yasu was a cat.
>>22190629Grave of the Fireflies wasn't directed by Miyazaki, it was directed by that other guy who died whose name I forgot. Anyways, I'll be honest and admit that I'm not really a huge Ghibli fan. They're great movies on every technical aspect, but they're not really what I come to anime for.
>>22190654Read NIGGA Read
Guys, I need my Jayden bf
>>22190645An author talking to the read through his characters is not a novel concept. And a group of characters all repeating the same thing was a habit of his since higurashi. It's still his viewpoint in his game.
>>22190605I'm saying you can't project your fetish, and what's more important, the degrees in which you indulge in your fetish, to an author.Though it does make me wonder if Foot Fetishists could "smell out" Dan Schneider from a mile away.
>>22190632I thought it was more him being jealous of battler specifically having a girlfriend rather than George being fixated on Yasu in any way
>>22190589it's obvious that ryukishi enjoys writing his characters perversions, suffering, malevolence etc., regardless of their age, but since it's just as clear that he enjoys writing innocence and joy, fighting against and overcoming adversity and so on, my simple verdict would be that he delights in all aspects of imagination.
>>22190691That's what George tells himself to justify his attraction to 13 year olds. Just like now when georgeilluminati wants the world to end for "progress" when we truly know his motives.
You now remember sprite of Satoko. You know the one...
>>22190645>It's probably because it's not just written in the vn normally like everything elseNo, that sounds exactly what a VN writer would do.
Is 8MS this world's magic? They seem to just be a blanket excuse for things.Unironically:>promotes nutmeg growth>weight loss>anti-earthquake>climate control>increases bee population>fights crop killing bacteria
next chapter to release 3 years from now
>>22190462>>22190490>>22190443Propaganda: My ching chong VN has homos
I never finished Umineko chapter 8Should I go back before starting Ciconia?
>>22190733Are you retarded?
>>22190733Yes, you dunce.
>>22190669>>22190673Is a womanBattler love pussy and small
>>22190733>Hello Umineko fans, should i finish reading Umineko?
>>22190733No.
>>22190733maybe
strong desire to lewdpost
jesus christ, shut up about the walls of peace already
>>22190819welcome to national government rhetoric
Fucking hell, people better make Naima lewds. I can barely control my dick.
>>22190833why do you want to fuck a potato
>>22190835She's not a potato under those clothes, anon. I'm certain there's a very lewd loli body underneath those clothes. The thought of her going "wowowoow" while I defile her pure mind with lewdness raises my libido to uncontrollable levels.
if meow isnt miyao can toujirou fuck her without it being incest
the homo stuff is real strong in this one huh? I just hope it doesn't turn into full on trans rights preaching. I expected more intrigue and chuuni fights, not open support of mental illness and perversion.
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why are George, Rudolf, Hideyoshi, and Takano playing the Sims 5 in a triangle room?
I'm pretty drunk so excuse the bad post but I'm so happy with the way Ciconia is turning out. I was so hype for this for months and Ryukishi really delivered.Any indication when we're getting part 2 by the way?
>>2219087507th expansion to go bankrupt tomorrow
>>22190875So you like transYou are gay>>22190878This everyone will revolt after this trans shit
>>22190872takano wants to piss off god again, hideyoshi wants to profiteer on his new sweets company, george wants to be the only male on earth, and rudolf was peer pressured
>>22190872The illuminati has always been that way.
Jesus fuck, Ciconia has so many hot girls (and guys). I'm gonna spill liters of cum to this.
Anyone know of ponscripter tools to extract pscript.dat?
Where is menu in the game? After 07th logo story just keeps going and I see no option to save or enable fullscreen.Downloaded it from this link https://mega.nz/#!ljYmEC6Q!pvViHxfrc7mO_QGK5_5KLgnRY3hCvV_SdS-uKPMMc0M
>>22190915If you're at the propaganda real, just hold ctrl. It's like an intro move before the main menu.
Being Jayden is suffering
adults bad
>>22190939based
>>22190939THOSE OLD MENWALLS OF PEACEOLD MEN 8MSGENDER DOESNT MATTERWALS OF PEACE WALLS OF PEACEMEOWEOW 8MS OLD MEN *SNIFF* *SPARKLE* WALLS OF PEACE8MS WALLS OF PEACEWALLS OF 8MS GENDER OLD PEACE MEN
So am I misremembering, or did some press release say that “those people” would show up again?Referring to the meta witches obviously.
>>22190953miau miau :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>22190968what the FUCK is wrong with finns
I hope Koshka's crime is all about annihilating arrogant ukraine knight.
>>22190913ryukishi realized everybody wanted to fuck the kids in umineko and those into the hags had shit taste
so is this really tranny shit? before i was my time downloading it
>>22191015No it's a trend. Higurashi (lolis)Umineko (milfs)Higanbana (lolis)RoseGunsDays(christmas cakes)Ciconia (lolis)
>>22191025if i say yes will you fuck off
>>22191032no
>>22191032I will stay here and complain like a boomer about how Higurashi was better
Ciconia fucking sucks.
>>22191040higurashi is the best but youre not allowed to popularize my contrarian view here
>11 reviewsdid it bomb?
ryukishi give me more of the saudi qt
>>22191057What else could you expect when each episode is going to cost $40 and it's only like 12 hours long?
How come that every line of dialogue is literally just fucking shitposting?
>>22191077>implying it's not an idol's job to shitpost while posing
>28_briefing_roomAn other nice track.
>>22191057everyone is busy reading aokana and yu-no instead
>>22190958>be WTC fan, entire series based around creating intentional ambiguity and exploiting people misreading into the intentional misdirect you set up>promo says "those people">assume it's Lambda and Bern even though "those people" can refer to anyone
>>22191092Yeah but then not!Lambda actually showed up
>>22191088>yu-nogod I hope not many people are reading that awful remake, just thinking that people are reading it gives me a bad taste in my mouth
>>22191098its the same game with better art
Naomi response to everything is drugs.
>world reverts back to a pre-ww1 war mentality>be surprised when it leads to extreme nationalistic war
>>22191092Ciconia got two whole Lambdas. In another way of saying it, that's two for the price of one.
uminekofags arent allowed to take takano from me
Imagine being Miyao. Imagine having to live with the knowledge that your coworker fucked you in the ass while your alter ego had control.
>>22191123I know, Miyao is much more fuckable.
>>22191123Imagine taking a shit in the morning only to see a thick white slime coating the turd floating in the toilet.
>>22191123you mean the vagina(male(female))
>>22191129You could even fuck them at the same time! Fucking a brother and sister in the same body at the same time! Fucking lewd!!! Miyao jacking off to it afterwards while Meow has to watch! LEWD!!!!!!
>>22190462sounds like some 1-bit thinking. God forbid they try to genuinely explore relevant social issues. you're all bigger pussies than the SJWs on Twitter, who will probably be mad this game is too critical of sex.
>miyao incest posting over loli humiliating
i really am enjoying posting about this guys
How old are all these characters supposed to be? Like 14-16?
>>22191157jap limbo
>>22187765They're still male or female, they just have some traits of the oposite sex.
I am glad that I get to read about a buch of kids talking about facebook games. Well done Ryukishi. At this point I will gladly be reading about onions sauce instead.
I expected to hate the Moles but they're my favorites so far.
>King of Ridicule>beige suit>hand in pocket>ihihihihihiIt must be him
But why are carnivorous plant stores bad?They sold that stuff at the school fair and I found em pretty cool
The closer I get to finishing the less I actually like this so far. It was gradually building up neatly till around the midpoint, then it just stagnates, everything is repetitive, and the pacing turned awful. I'm probably an hour away from finishing, so unless this suddenly pulls through, it's like a 7 for me, and only a 7 because there's more to come later.
>>22191213Why is it that whenever someone brings up pacing, no matter the medium, they're always whining like an infant about the thing in general?
>>22191209The real culprit of uminekoStrike againThis time who will friendzone george?
Imagine being mad about gay cartoon characters.
>>22191229Imagine like gay cartoons chatacter
>radical pacifists
>>22191217>why do people complain about one of the key components to good writingare you retarded? that's like asking why anyone would complain about pitch or tempo in musicor about how thick the line work is in drawing
Hello fellow 8biters, I have managed to uninstall Keropoyo AMA
Are people upset about the Meow twist? I could have sworn we were all joking about R07 up to his Lion crap again the moment we saw the design
>>22191234If you conquest all the world you obtain global peace
>>22191240EveryoneAnd lion is a womanBut this time confirmed gay tranny
>>22191238>one of the key components to good writingwew
>>22191238What a 1bit thing to say.
1 bit has already become a really annoying meme.
>>22191246>lion is a womanWrong.
>>221912601bits either love it or hate it.True thinkers of our time are ambivalent about it.
>>22191263Yes a woman like yasu1 gay bit goat
>>22191260If you don't like it, come up with a more nuanced opinion. Not every story is going to have the same kind of pacing, treating it like a binary thing literally makes you a 1bit
i think i want to fuck every single female character in this game except lilja
So sex is still a thing but it looks like this generation literally thinks that birds deliver babies. Both Miyao and Jayden have talked about the Ciconia this way.This is probably the main reason why this game is "Ciconia" to begin with.
Fuck i read about mayaI am cryingGunhilde traitor confirmed Three kings have rightsOnly a total war can save the world from this degenerancy
>>22191284In other words, a man.
>>22191246I ain't mad. Being a tranny isn't evil in and of itself. I just feel bad for Jayden I guess because that's a rough situation.
>>22191331Its a metaphor for being natural born dumbass. They dont think that storks literally deliver babies. You're either a test tube baby or natural/ciconia born.
>>22191347I am mad about all others characters think is normal date a trannyNo one say :"but maybe ask to myao is sex"Cmon And jayden speak only 1 time with myao female personality and fall in loveCmon battler take 6 games for do it!!!
>>22191345Nope yasu is a cute tomboyAnd inbreading monster creater by his father-grandfather lustInbreading monster cant have childrenYasu have a pussy and small titsbut you can really call a woman that cant have children a woman?
>>22191354Jayden was always gay for Miyao, he just kept it hidden because he doesnt wanna be a fag. The Meow personality brought about an opening he could use and still claim hes straight.
1000 posts.The seething actually isn't quite that bad just yet. Though maybe it's mostly contained to /v/ atm
>>22191106she just wants to see the loli drugged
WHERE'S THE BGM ROOM
>>22191451I got rid of it.
new op displaying chloe's massive leaves
>want to read the thread>don't want spoilerswell at least i'll be done reading by tomorrow.
>>22191541everybody dies in the end and takano and gohda get married
If this isn't a declaration of intent of Ciconia, I don't know what is.
Okay so when is the next phase coming out
>That bitch ass COU officer shouting at the top of his lungs for the AOU to come attack him>Jayden blows up the crane behind him and Genius Children starts playingkek
>>22191541The rokkenjima incident actually sparked WW3. In humanity's recovery, furries took root in Akihabara. Incels are now trying to rebuild society tfrom ground zero to fix what went wrong.Only one of these is a lie.
so jayden and meow love each other but what about miyao's feelings? that's kinda fucked
>>22191584Programs aren't human
>>22191584miyao was made for cock
>>22191572in a few months judging from Umineko release dates
valentina's and maricarmen's skirts are too long
This is complete bullshit. That number is impossible.
>>22191671Remember the 3.5 billion goyim!
>>22191671I mean that's a little less than 1/3 of the people in the world today
>>22191685all from drones attacking major cities lmaoeven if everyone in major cities died, 1/3rd of the world doesnt live in major cities
>>22191703Did you even read? The world they live in had 10 billion people, and the cities had become densely populated
>>22191709I did read. Which is why I specifically mentioned major cities. Densely populated doesnt mean majority of the population.
>>22191703>1/3rd of the world doesnt live in major cities1/3 of the world is clamoring to get into the major cities because of how fucked the environment is everywhere else.
>>22191718This is a story set in a distant future where humanity fucked up so bad they escaped from nuclear winter, repopulated with test tube babies and have stuff that could be as effective as WMDS in term of casualties.I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised if most of humanity is mostly regrouped in specific area because of certain 8MS.
>>22191718>Approximately 97% of United States' land area is within rural counties, and 60 million people (roughly 19.3% of the population) reside in these areas.The reason why most of the world today is rural is because of barely industrializing shitholes like India and Africa are holding the stats back. If the rest of the world urbanized to America today's point it isn't inconceivable for casualty rates that high.
>>22191729Going off of just rural counties is really not a stat you can use. A small town of 2k people is considered urban. Do you think they had drones attacking millions upon millions of small towns?
>>22191709How many Mumbai/Chongqing/Manila equivalents do you think there are? There would have to be a few hundred cities as big as Chongping around the world to reach the 10bil mark.
>>22191752You can still raise that number to 50 or 60 percent and those casualty rates would still be possible.
>>22191766Maybe it's just how I read it, but how everything was worded, how the news was reported, and how the characters were reacting to the chaos. It didn't seem like 1/3 people would have died from it all, it's like the number just came out of nowhere. The drones were attacking small key points to cause a lot of damage, they werent carpet bombing neighbourhoods.
How do you save in Ciconia?
What the fuck was that ending??
>>22191861Right click, save.
>>22191909What the fuck was this entire thing? The last 2 or 3 hours totally went over my head