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A thread for the discussion of Dies irae, Kajiri Kamui Kagura, Pantheon and other associated titles belonging to the Shinza Banshou setting, written by Takashi Masada.

>Masada's official Twitter
https://twitter.com/masada_takashi

Dies irae Song to the Witch fully translated: https://www.stuffiliketodo.net/work/dies_irae_song_to_the_witch_2781

>Avesta of Black and White
Prologue: https://pastebin.com/28tSNA8j

>Dies irae
Getting Started: https://pastebin.com/03KfVLZZ
Official Website: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies_portal/
VNDB: https://vndb.org/v548
Interview with Kaziklu Bey: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies_kaziklubey/
Steam Page: https://store.steampowered.com/app/644540/Dies_irae_Amantes_amentes/ (>buying from steam)
Mangagamer: https://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=1041 (>buying from mangagamer)
Other Resources: https://pastebin.com/27WTzqYV
Random TL's and misconceptions: https://pastebin.com/9XgEAwTU

>Dies irae Pantheon
Official Website: http://dies-p.net/index.html
Website Translation: https://pastebin.com/g7rbqkTM

>Kajiri Kamui Kagura
Official website: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/kajirikamuikagura/index.html
VNDB: https://vndb.org/v5844

>Other light titles
Senshinkan: https://vndb.org/v12455
Bansenjin Torrent: https://sukebei.pantsu.cat/view/1705703
Paradise Lost: https://vndb.org/v1951
PL Torrent: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2577220

>> No.22152929

So, are Dust Angels like Belial and Beelzebub manifestations of Muzan’s Law like how Methuselah originated from Snek’s Eternal Recurrence?

>> No.22152963

>>22152855
Yep. If turbo thot didn’t emanate and become the first Hadou God, none of the chunk shot would have come to be.

>> No.22153464

>>22152929
Yes

>> No.22154105
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>> No.22155847

>>22154105
Aah... Anna.

>> No.22157328

I'm not the usual TL anon(s). I tried translating sentence for sentence as I read along Chapter 1 and I give up like the 5th paragraph in. I can understand it, but I can't translate it into coherent legible English language, not that I didn't expect this. Shame since I understood 80-90% of Pantheon's prologue. I don't wanna risk translating and make the writing more confusing for people. The rest is up to you, usual tl anon(s).

>> No.22157690
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Another anon wrote up a quick summary so I thought I'd summarise some of the lore given out throughout the first chapter
>Quinn has been a Yazata for 3 years now
>Yazata are the heroes of the Ashavan (The Good)
>Whereas Deevas are the heroes of the Drəgvant (The Evil)
>The heroes of both sides are able to read the Avesta to a greater extent than ordinary people, as such they can gain commandments
>In order to achieve victory, both sides must destroy the opposite core nucleus
>For the Ashavan, their core nucleus is the holy king and the domain which he leads, it also where the palace of the Yazata is located, the domain is also known as Wahman Yast
>For the Dragvant, their nucleus are the 7 Demon Kings
>Around 20 years ago, the number of Yazata numbered at over 1 million, however they currently number at less than 1,000 due to an attack on the holy king's domain by forge daddy, which only saw 30 survivors
>the fourth precept of the Avesta states that if complete annihilation takes too long, the vacancy in numbers will be filled, in other words successors will be born
>The Ashavan and Yazata are in a state of rebuilding and recovery
>On the side of the Dragvant, it is not uncommon for there to be infighting in where the subordinates of a Demon King may kill their liege and usurp their position, as well as infighting amongst the Demon Kings themselves
>In the 2000-year history of the Wahman Yast, there have only been 3 cases in which a Demon King was killed at the hands of a Yazata
>Aside from the usage of commandments, the Yazata also make use of the feathers of Vohu Manah, the guardian star spirit of Wahman Yast who was injured during the attack 20 years ago
>the feathers have 5 uses: Attack strengthening, Defense strengthening, Recovery strengthening, teleportation and flight
>the feathers are also the main method in which the Yazata travel across planets
The actual names for the 5 uses for the feathers are what I assume are from zoroastrianism
Defence = Kshatra
Recovery = Haoma
Teleportation = Fravard
the remaining two for attack and flight are a bit confusing since I couldn't find the actual words so take this with a grain
Attack = Psalm (?)
Flight = Sebatir (?)

>> No.22157717

>>22157690
Also forgot to mention that Vohu Manah is a giant continent sized white eagle

>> No.22157823

>>22157328
Understandable, but to be fair, translating is a skill you need to hone, just like reading and writing. Even if the begging is rough, the more you practice, the better you'll become (not to mention Masada's prose is rather complicated, both to read, at least to a beginner like me, and translate).

>> No.22157832

>>22157823
*Even if the beginning

>> No.22158508

>>22157690
Zack translated those two terms as Sām and Šēbāṭīr.

I find it interesting how Avesta explicitly says "You only have to defeat the enemy leaders to win", but Muzan still murdered literally everyone. Feels like he's going to break all the Avesta rules there is.

Also, Masada mentioned that the scale of the first Throne is so huge because of Forge Dad, but if Wahman Yast can travel even without his inventions, can you really say that? Unless star spirits were born because of Forge Dad, of course.

>> No.22158665
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>>22157690
>For the Ashavan, their core nucleus is the holy king and the domain which he leads, it also where the palace of the Yazata is located, the domain is also known as Wahman Yast

There being one king for their core is interesting. We know Muzan is the only guy who's going to survive everything so..

>>22157832
>I find it interesting how Avesta explicitly says "You only have to defeat the enemy leaders to win", but Muzan still murdered literally everyone. Feels like he's going to break all the Avesta rules there is.

When he figures out winning doesn't solve anything, there's no point sticking to the rules. I'm curious as to when he finds this out and how much does he know at this particular point of the story.

>but if Wahman Yast can travel even without his inventions, can you really say that? Unless star spirits were born because of Forge Dad, of course.

Honestly, we don't know how long Forge Dad has been around. We know that there was mention that an aspect of Mithra's law involved the flipping of Good and Evil upon one defeating the other, so there might have been a victory at one point in the past that caused a massive flip and expansion that makes Forge Dad into a Demon King. Before that, there might not have been a need or reason for planetary travel.

>> No.22158763

>>22158665
Why is she so damn smug?

>> No.22158846

Also interesting to note:

In the Pantheon scenario, Kouha mentioned that Muzan will be in charge of "leading" Vahman Yast and the 7 Demon Lords, justifying that since he was that era's "hero" and Mithra isn't well liked by any of the 14.

So perhaps from Muzan's perspective, he has never considered any living being of his world an ally, but the same can't be said for the other 14 who may somewhere down the road come to understand/revere him? Or maybe they just really didn't like Mithra and prefers the one they dislike lesser.

>> No.22158865

>>22158846
Well most likely yeah since even before the switch release, Masada said that they were all moebutas for Muzan

>> No.22159232

>>22158763
duuno but I love it

>> No.22159243

>>22158846
> Vahman Yast and the 7 Demon Lords
>the other 14
So there is also 7 guys from VYast? Are they Heroes or Holy Kings?

>> No.22160555

havent lurked here in about a month, is there any new news on pantheon or light?

>> No.22160602

>>22160555
Masada and G are posting the first Throne's story on their own through crowdfunding, potentially publishing it as a proper book, an audio drama, a visual novel etc. If everything goes well, they're going to write the pre-Throne story next and maybe even resurrect Pantheon.

>> No.22161097

>>22160602
>pre-Throne story
Uh? Since this is the starting point and also wehre it all seems to lead I thought Masada was gonna keep it secret and reveal bits of it throughout pantheon for the final plotline and twists to slowly unveil.

>> No.22161114

>>22161097
That's what everyone assumed, but I suppose there's still going to be more than enough secrets to keep until Pantheon even if he does tell us Mithra's story.

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Huh? We're back? Did something happen?

>> No.22161931
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>>22161914
Anon...

>> No.22161951

>>22161914
Goblin Slayer went Global Slayer.

>> No.22162128

Why is Masada so obsessed with zoroastrianism?

>> No.22162167
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>>22162128
It's cool desu.

>> No.22162174

>>22162128
He picked it up from from Nasu. More seriously, good and evil are portrayed as absolutes that are forever in conflict, which suits the setting.

>> No.22162189

>>22162128
I wouldn't say zoroastrianism actually matters outside of the first Heaven. Ren isn't called Zarathustra because he's a prophet or anything, it's all Nietzsche.

Unless?..

>> No.22162234

>>22162189
>while exploring the 1st heaven goblin slayer and co encounter a particularly tsundere prophet who just wants to go back to his nichijou

>> No.22162288

>>22162174
>from Nasu
Nasu used one name from it and that's about it.

>> No.22163448

>>22162189
Something something reincarnation

>> No.22164353

Grabbed a copy of Wolfsrudel. Is it worth a read?

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>>22163448
>Reinhard reincarnated in such a perfect cutie
We need to keep killing nazis so they turn into cute nips

>> No.22164396

>>22164370
He didn't, she just found a piece of him. You don't reincarnate after Hajun murderkills you.

>>22163448
You don't reincarnate in first Heaven either, the whole concept of life after death was only introduced by Snek. Sucks for proto-Quinn.

>> No.22164463

>>22164396
Do you think Quinn survives as Muzen’s Ahnenerbe/Sword?

>> No.22164502

>>22164463
I think so, but Masada didn't intend her to be a character in Pantheon, so she probably doesn't have any personality left in her.

It's funny how Satanael got Ast to accompany him on the Throne despite her going through the opposite process.

>> No.22164625

>>22164463
Inb4 she’s the Marie to Muzan’s Ren, but if Ren was obsessed with genocide instead of nichijou.

>> No.22164653

>>22164396
>What is Pantheon's prologue
Also, the entire Eastern Company are basically expies of the LDO.

>> No.22164675

>>22164625
>instead of fugging a guillotine, Muzan fugged a sword to become a god.

>> No.22164683

>>22164653
"Reborn due to Naraka fuckery" is not the same as "Reincarnated into a cutie general".

Also, the only EE members I can see as LDO expies are literally new versions of them.

>> No.22164723

>Daughter of a celestial body
>short blonde hair
>red eyes
>emotionless at first
Is Quinn the Arcueid of Shinza?

>> No.22164831

>>22164723
Whoa, Masada totally copies Nasu again, and Muzan is totally Shiki.
Alright, can you stop this now and go back to /tmg/?

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>>22164831
>Muzan is totally Shiki
Did you mean Lancelot?

>> No.22165340

>>22164723
>>emotionless at first
But she's not. She's literally just autistic

>> No.22165376

>>22164859
Well that's too much similarity.

>> No.22165410

>>22165340
Every character in this franchise is a turbo autist.

>> No.22165589

>>22164859
I remember when people said Pantheon will be as popular as FGO.

>> No.22165811

>>22165589
I mean, it being dead does not exactly prove them wrong.

>> No.22166085

>>22164353
heard that spinne had lots of focus, still waiting for the translaton though

https://twitter.com/Fr_4I235/status/944782292664193024

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aah... karl

>> No.22167229

>>22152916
For the Op, the KKK torrent still works

>Torrent: https://sukebei.pantsu.cat/view/287261

>> No.22168847

>>22167221
Kinda gay

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>>22168847
Welcome to Shinza, enjoy your stay.

>> No.22170139

>>22168847
That’s the point.

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>>22168847
I fail to see the problem.

>> No.22170610

>>22168949
>>22170168
Literally the best pairing that Masada created.

>> No.22171456

>>22170168
Kek

>> No.22171923

>>22168949
Is it safe to assume that Muzan is homo too?

>> No.22171978

>>22171923
>Being homosexual
>Being anythingsexual
That sounds like evil.

>> No.22173944 [DELETED] 

When will we see Adol adventuring again? It's been ten years...

>> No.22174135

>>22171978
t. Satanel

>> No.22174215

>Mithra, Muzan, Satanel, Rein, Hajun, autists : relatively chilll Thrones, not much suffering, had their ideals fulfilled or dreams come true, even if only ofr a time
>Naraka, Snake, Ren, waifufag autists : full on suffering, absolute worst Throne so fucked even its god wanted to kill himself, eternal spirals of cucking, dreams get crushed left and right, never get the waifu in the end and get more suffering instead
What did Masada mean b this?

>> No.22174221

>>22174215
>Mithra
>Muzan
>not much suffering

>> No.22174235

>>22174215
>Muzan
> relatively chill

>> No.22174259

>>22174221
>>22174235
I mean, once he killed everyone it had to be chill.
Also Mithra is like full on smug and it's implied her "demise" was her own doing, doesn't seems like she suffered much.

>> No.22174272

>>22174259
Her universe has parents murder their unborn children, which almost beats Tengudou in its savagery. By the usual Throne extension, that means she herself has a whole lot of suffering inside of her.

>> No.22174296

>>22174272
>parents murder their unborn children
So abortion?

>> No.22174310

>>22174272
Hum, didn't not think of it that way. But I mean, Rein throne would have the same level of carnage and suffering and he himself isn't suffering inside, he's just a bored pyschopath that wants to fight.

>> No.22174330

>>22174310
Note that he was never supposed to take the Throne, since his craving for destruction came from Merc. The Pantheon version of his is in a weird spot that's not completely explained, so we can't really discuss it yet.

>>22174296
Yes, except you want to abort it so hard you don't mind dying in the process.

>> No.22174462

>>22174259
>once he killed everyone
So he never got together with Quinn?

>> No.22174469

>>22174462
>Muzan
>Entertaining romance

>> No.22174521

>>22174310
>Rein throne would have the same level of carnage and suffering and he himself isn't suffering inside, he's just a bored pyschopath that wants to fight
If kemono-dono ever did take the throne, they wouldn't be suffering, they'd all become things akin to rakshasa and asura and enjoy the fighting just like kemono-dono
except for the people who would eventually atain agency
In terms of carnage, probably more than any other world given how everyone would be an immortal demigod
>>22174462
He's not going to fuck his sword anon, no matter how much she actually wants it

>> No.22174543

>>22174521
Ren’s not going to fuck his guillotine anon, no matter how much she actually wants it.

>> No.22174550 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CKQqDMusIo

>> No.22174557

>>22174543
Delusionnal Reafag.

>> No.22174572

>>22174521
>He's not going to fuck his sword anon, no matter how much she actually wants it
I mean, Ren did it with Marie.

>> No.22174589

Would Ren taking the Throne actually fuck everyone, even Naraka, for good? Because it most likely, by its very nature, would not let something like Satanel/Snake happen.

>> No.22174592

>>22174543
>>22174572
Ren also wasn't a murder autist who murdered everyone in the universe which may or may not include said presumed sword, he was just a regular autist

>> No.22174617

>>22174592
>mudered his father with his best friend
>beat the crap out of each other to near death with said friend
>canonically suddenly went on rants about muh time and nichijou
>before even being pulled in all the crazy shit
>regular autist

>> No.22174649

>>22174592
>Wants the same moments in his life to repeat forever to the point where time is frozen for everyone except himself and his pals.
Only a regular autist you could find anywhere.

>> No.22174691

>>22174617
Fair enough

>> No.22174769

>>22174589
Didn't Saosyant confirm the existence of higher dimensional beings, Naraka being among them? Since they reside on a dimension "above" the world ruled by the Divine Throne, he probably wouldn't be affected by it.

>> No.22174814

>>22174769
Didn't Pantheon prologue stated Naraka had to sit through Snek's autism?

>> No.22174816

>>22168949
Never seen this image in such a good quality, thanx for that.

>> No.22174828

>>22174215
>Eternal War between Good and Evil, Purely Evil, Purely Good, Eternal War (Sleep and Repeat), Peak Autismo god
>Relatively chill

>> No.22174837

>>22174828
For Mithra. If you're talking about people living at the time then beside Marie it was a constant shitfest indeed.

>> No.22174936

>>22174769
I hope that isn’t the case, feels a bit cheap to go “you know those nigh-omnipotent gods the setting revolves around? Well there are even nigher-omnipotent supergods that are above them.”
That said I’ll have faith in Masada, if anyone can pull it off in a tasteful way he can.

>> No.22174950

>>22174936
>“you know those nigh-omnipotent gods the setting revolves around? Well there are even nigher-omnipotent supergods that are above them.
I don't know man, I'm thinking they're probably just outside the rules, confines and domain of shinza in general, not necessarily even crazier/stronger gods. Like some tricksters working towards some unknown goal in which they need 10 retards who fell for the throne meme. They're most likely from age zero if anything.

>> No.22175328

Naraka must have been as bored as shit during Mercurius’s reign. Billions upon billions of loops of the same thing happening again and again.

>> No.22175366
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>>22175328
It's possible that he experiences time differently than those inside the confines of Shinza. Kouha, on the other hand...

>> No.22175446

>>22175366
How is she not insane/suicidal like Mercurius then?

>> No.22175467

>>22175446
She STRONK. It probably helps that she isn't nigh-omniscient like Snek. Or who knows, maybe she didn't really experience all the loops in a straight manner, her memories could possibly have been wiped-out with each reset, or something.

>> No.22175469

>>22174936
>>22174950
I'm generally a bit more worried that it leads to 'the Shinza universe is a created copy/simulation of the old world controlled by these god-admins for some kind of experiment or goal' or something close.

Given how personal things often are at the core in Shinza though, I think it can be done well.

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>>22175469
Mithra said that even if Naraka was in front of them, they'll never be able to understand him because of how alien he is, high chance that the 4 others are also similar existences.

>> No.22175811

>>22175769
How did Muzan go from Goblin Slayer to a bishie in a sharp suit?

>> No.22175823

>>22175811
By taking up the Evil megacorp dress code.

>> No.22175837

>>22175811
Maybe he transforms into Goblin Slayer for combat

>> No.22176334

>>22175811
Hadou Gods don’t need armour, except when you’re Tenma Yato.

>> No.22176362

>>22175837
So he's Goblin Slayer 100% of the time, then.

>> No.22176371

>>22176362
Except for when he's sitting around on the Throne yeah

>> No.22176597

>>22176362
Always angry, all the time.

>> No.22176692

>>22176597
It truly is... the day of wrath (Dies Irae).

>> No.22176704

>>22176692
*angry day

>> No.22176768

>>22176704
my bad

>> No.22177248

Aren’t Legion Gods supposed to be on the same level as their corresponding Hadou God? Or is that unique to Reinhard?

>> No.22177355

>>22177248
I suppose they're like limbs or parts of a Hadou God. Legion God Eleanore attacking has the same weight the same as if Reinhard is attacking using her abilities.

If she gets defeated, Hadou God Reinhard is paying for the losses, so he's the one losing HP.

However if you look at Legion Gods individually, they still can't stand up to an actual Hadou God. So sending her alone against Snek with no backup is kind of like sending a disembodied hand to fight by itself.

You might count as having equal taikyoku to your boss, but you're still an underling and not a boss.

>> No.22177503

>>22177248
>>22177355
Thye have the same stats, but Rein is a boss while the legion only are elite mobs.

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>>22175811
>>22175837
First thing, the air surrounding him is so bad that those of the high ranking daevas pale in comparison.
Second, he's the yazata with the greatest achievements amongst the Ashavan.
Third, Quinn is so fucking reluctant to call him their comrade, they can only call his "victories" as murders.
etc...

>> No.22177546

>>22177512
>Quinn is so fucking reluctant to call him their comrade, they can only call his "victories" as murders.
How can he be so autistic/edgy, but still be so cool...

>> No.22177773

Why do you think light couldn't just make a deal with some well-known and reliable game developers? So there wouldn't be a situation when Pantheon production was axed twice.

>> No.22177786

>>22177773
>Why do you think light couldn't just make a deal with some well-known and reliable game developers?
because they're incompetent?

>> No.22177808

>>22177773
Probably because they wanted the bigger share of the profits. After all, they made everything but the actual game engine, why would you let someone like Cygames take 75% of the dough?

>> No.22177823

>>22177808
Would they really take so much?

>> No.22177846

>>22177823
Well, it's not like I know any accurate numbers, but you're not paying just for the actual game engine here: you're paying for the insurance, as well. Maybe even some PR if you want to use the engine dev's name as another way to attract customers. Light decided they need none of that and paid their price.

>> No.22177860

>>22177846
Well then it's their greed to blame. I thought they would still get all the profit from gatcha and it would've been enough to cover the expenses.

>> No.22177877

>>22177860
Mind you, they might have tried and failed to attract the attention of any major devs, too. Unfortunately, Light hardly gave us any specifics about their deals, though I guess that's perfectly normal.

>> No.22177975

>>22177860
That's anon opinion dude, we don't know what happened.

>> No.22179774

>>22177512
>Quinn is so fucking reluctant to call him their comrade, they can only call his "victories" as murders.
Truly the evil to devour other evils.

>> No.22182062

The Sun, since time immemorial, his brother-stars in song had rivaled

Bolting ‘long a path predestined, with thunder echoing in his wake

And with swiftness - swiftness beyond measure - his perpetual cycle fought

His path ravaged, to ashes scorched
Unknown, peerless supremacy by heav'ns wrought
Equal in beauty to the first of your days.

Beri'ah -
Eine Faust – Ouvertüre

>> No.22182547 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPKDEHFXIc0
Literally the best track ever composed.

>> No.22182620

>>22182062
METSUJIN MESSO

>> No.22183973
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Awte of divinity, extowwed genius, awien diction: mankind’s bane, the heawt’s wament. A bond fwom fowtune wwought, its core in twagedy tested, chisewed to pewfection. Fowtune, O mistwess evew so fickwe: you cwaim fow youw own aww that was once given. Bwind is Fowtune, yet bwind, too, awe those that seek wefuge in hew wight. Weason’s shackwes bind you not: quench, at times, youw thiwst with fowwy’s peawws. Wevew and dwink and fwowic in wife, for Hades howds no ciwcus fow the fawwen!

Atziwuth: Vive Memow Mowtis - Acta Est Fabuwa!

>> No.22183993

Chantposting is the equivalent of youtube comments quoting a video

>> No.22184179

>>22183993
Also nobody likes you.

>> No.22184276

>>22184179
That's fine, doesn't change the fact that chantposting is low effort cringe

>> No.22184325

>>22183993
based

>> No.22184340

>>22184276
Your posts are cringe.

>> No.22184536

Speaking of chants, what are they going to look like in Avesta, anyways? The one Magsarion used in the chapter felt more like a string of commands than an actual chant, so maybe that's what it's gonna be for the entire run? It certainly doesn't feel like Commandments require any "activation" so far.

>> No.22185054

>>22184536
Chants were always just a chuuni way to activate cool powers and useful to develop characters because it relates to them. 'cause I don't see why quoting Nietzsche would suddenly make you a time wizard.

>> No.22185105

>>22185054
Because Snek wills it.

Do note that Ren cites Faust, not Nietzsche.

>> No.22185276

>>22185105
Yeah, people also chanted in Paralost and KKK, doubt Stanael or Hajun were especially big on chuuni introspective chants.
>not Nietzsche
I was talking about the "Also sprach Zarathustra"line in particular, don't remember reading that in any Faust related work.

>> No.22186568

This place is dead.

>> No.22186679

>>22186568
それでも。。。

>> No.22186751

>>22186568
>retards screaming METSUJIN MESSOU every threads
>why dead????
I swear 4chan could emanate as both gudou or hadou of autism

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>>22186751

>> No.22187036

>>22186947
what the fuck

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>>22186947
But when you switch on the light -

>> No.22187300

Does anyone here chant IRL when you get into tough situations?

>> No.22187324

>>22187300
No. What are you, autistic?

>> No.22187330

>>22187300
yep, I ramble about wide seas and how utsukushii Time is when I'm about to lose a point.

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>>22187300
I chant unceasingly.

>> No.22187590

>>22187367
That doesn’t seem very good for your mental health.

>> No.22187615

>>22187590
He's trying to degrade it enough so that he can successfully emanate onto this thread.

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I love Beatrice...

>> No.22188005

>>22187879
Go to sleep, Kai.

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Based

>> No.22188055

Any summary or TLs of this week lore?

>> No.22188058

>>22188037
She really doesn’t give a shit, huh.

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Quick summary of the mostly new lore dump
>The Ashavan generally have the advantage in number but the Dragvant have the advantage in quality
>A weak Dragvant can overwhelm an average Ashavan
>Yazata exist to turn the scales
>Yazata receive the divine protection of the star spirits and their traverse across the universe to save those in danger
>The number of Deevas is extremely small, one planet may have on average, perhaps two Deevas
>Deevas are divided into 6 ranks by the Wahman Yasti according to strength
>Fourth Class Deevas are weak, in order to take them down a team of Yazata is optimal
>Third Class Deevas are average, a skilled Yazata is necessary in order to take them down
>Second Class Deevas are the foot soldiers of the Demon Kings, they all possess power which similar to some form of natural disaster. It's not impossible to defeat them, but you must be prepared to make sacrifices in order to do so
>First Class Deevas encroach on the level of the Demon kings, they're numbers are extremely small, but they are very powerful. In the past, they could crush the Yazata simply using ten fingers
>Special Class, in other words Quasi Demon Kings who are set to succeed any of the present Demon Kings if they were to be defeated. The Wahman Yasti have confirmed the existence of 4 of these Deevas
>Demon Kings, the absolute evils which rule over the Deevas, supreme beings who possess unfathomable destructive power. However, they seem to be fixated in only have 7 in their ranks and have never increased their numbers
>>22188058
It's funny because she actually does

>> No.22188097

>>22188071
Thanks, is there any new illustrations?

>> No.22188117

>>22188071
>The divine protection the Yazata receive is from the star spirit Vohu Manah
>The seal of its wings appears somewhere on the Yazata's body, like Quinn's inner thigh
>The number of feathers is reliant on an individual's military success and ability, as well as the power that can be used
>Quinn currently possess five feathers, which is the average
>There are five applications of this divine protection, attack reinforcement, defense reinforcement, recovery, flight, teleportation, but it's not as if using these comes with no risk
>For example, attack and defense reinforcement have a tendency to reduce one's speed
>Teleportation and flight have a tendency to reduce one's weight
>As such it is important to keep a balance in mind when utilizing these abilities
>It is also possible to use multiple abilities together in order to create a technique with a unique effect, though this is a high-risk high reward approach, as one mistake would lead to self-destruction. There are those who would use such techniques with no hesitation, such as Magsarion
>>22188097
That was the new illustration

>> No.22188127

>>22188117
Nothing really new about commandments other than
>If you break your commandment, you'll recieve divine punishment in the form of instant death
>In some cases, the punishment is worse than death but the details are unclear
>There are cases where individuals have multiple commandments
Though we've already heard all that before on the last campus stream.

>> No.22188172

>>22188117
>That was the new illustration
Really? Thank you, Yusuke seems to went full fanservice already.

>> No.22188180

>>22188117
>>22188071
Thank you for summary and translation good anon.

>> No.22188280

>Feathers are given out for military achievements
>Magsarion has more achievements than anyone else
>The feathers appear as marks somewhere on the body
So basically Magsarion is covered in feathers from head to toe, I guess.

>> No.22188295

>>22188071
Doesn't Masada just copy all that Zoroastrian lore from wiki? I mean of course he made up some details, but basically he is just using the existing mythology.

>> No.22188336

>>22186568
It's more than alright considering that we just get a new novel and Light doesn't even exist anymore.

>> No.22188342

>>22187300
I want to hear Thrones asmr chanting. Imagine that with seiyuu voices.

>> No.22188345

>>22188295
Just because he took a few terms and a general theme doesn't mean he copy-pasted an entire religion. Reading even a little bit of either will tell you as much.

>> No.22188356

>>22188345
Well I read wiki articles and it seems he took the whole system and hierarchy at least.

>> No.22188386

>>22188356
If you had read Paralost, DI or KKK, you'd know that he takes a lot from existing myths and religions.

>> No.22188402

>>22188386
That's literally what I was saying. Don't know what are you arguing with.

>> No.22188752

I hate to ask this but theres some people, me included, that can't pay the crowdfunding due to credit card limitations(happens in a few countries). If anyone would so kind as to post the chapter 2 on a pastebin I would really appreciate it.

>> No.22188759

>>22188752
Is that you, Russian-anon?

>> No.22188775

>>22188759
Russian anon already got his last week.

>> No.22188793

>>22188759
Well, Im Russian too but I don't think I'm the same person you're talking about.

>> No.22188805

>>22188793
what's with slavs and shinza

>> No.22188806

>>22188752
I think we should help fellow anons. Don't be mean. This is 2nd chapter but it will expire in an hour. Please don't copy it on other sites.
https://pastebin.com/W4UwXRHc

>> No.22188817

>>22188805
They like chuuni stuff.

>> No.22188857

>>22188806
Thank you but isn't this chapter 1? Masada didn't write a new chapter this week?

>> No.22188887

>>22188857
Oh I mean the second because I counted the prologue. I thought you need it. Yeah, there was no chapter this week.

>> No.22189024

>>22188857
He said that they are going to put out a new chapter every two weeks, with every other week being some other blog post, like G's sketches and stuff.

>>22188752
Some other options to consider for the rest of you having the same problem:
>Try buying Enty points and paying with those (this is what I did)
>Try getting another card (shouldn't be too hard and/or expensive if you're going to give Masada your money anyways)
>Wait until the book is out (everyone is used to waiting by now)

>> No.22189224

>>22186568
It's alright, we've always moved at a snail's pace (except at the very beginning and when we got Pantheon's prologue). At least now we have something to look forward to, every week.

>> No.22190003

>>22189224
Where the fuck does Masada even get his money to afford not working and paying Yuusuke?

>> No.22190052

>>22190003
I think you somehow missed the whole crowdfunding deal here.

>> No.22190091

Anyone can repost the second chapter?

>> No.22190108

>>22190052
Does it really get him enough to afford a place to live in, food, and paying someone ? Never got the impression the Light fanbase was really huge and now the content is some obscure shit that most people that only know the DI VN will never know about.

>> No.22190133

>>22190108
Just go to the website, see how much money they get per month, then deduce 10% of Enty fees. They're not going to starve anytime soon.

>> No.22190190

>>22190108
They're getting 1489500 yen a month after enty fees, which is just slightly under 14k dollars
I think it's more than enough, but I don't know how they split it

>> No.22190384

>>22190133
Yo, wtf? Well fuck me then. I don't understand how but I sure am glad it's that sucessful.

>> No.22190456

>>22190190
That's not nearly enough for an anime or moreover for a game if he still wants to release it.

>> No.22190782

>>22190456
That's for themselves anon, the idea is that they either want a publisher or a developer to front the cost in the case of a ln or vn.
>anime
Bro

>> No.22190797

>>22190782
>Bro
They do mention it as one of potential adaptations of Avesta on the website. It would probably work exactly the same way all the Narou adaptations do.

>> No.22190822

>>22190797
Fair enough, actually.
obviously i'd prefer to see it as a vn but which developer would even touch chuuni nowadays?

>> No.22190863

>>22190822
There are quite a few chuuni devs still kicking, and I don't even think they need a major one to help them. Hell, Silverio is currently under development under Akabei Soft2, so they might as well take Masada, as well.

>> No.22190879

>>22190822
Well, the biggest I can think at this moment is Nitroplus.

>> No.22191533

>>22190863
>There are quite a few chuuni devs still kicking
Not much of them could provide what Masada generally wants though. Every single one of his vns so far (aside from paralost) had a pretty damn expensive list of seiyuu and top tier visual/sound direction. And Avesta seem to be very demanding in all of those aspects.

>> No.22191835

>>22190863
>Hell, Silverio is currently under development under Akabei Soft2

Really? When was this announced? I know Campus has been picked up by them. Hadn't heard anything about Silverio or its creator.

>> No.22193472

>>22186751
Still stuck within the ghetto of Foreknowledge...

>> No.22193639

Any aussies here?

>> No.22193680

>>22191835
Ah, I might've been thinking of Campus, sorry. Either way, Light's Twitter mentioned that Silverio is still in the works the other day.
https://twitter.com/light_staff_tw/status/1178595368625303552

>> No.22194144

>>22193639
G’day

>> No.22194457

>KKK will never be translated
>DI switch never came out in the west (I would've totally bough it too)
fuck

>> No.22194530

>>22194457
it's been 2 years since dies irae came out my dude, should've jumped on the nip train

>> No.22194691

>>22193472
Et arma et verba vulnerant et arma
Fortuna amicos conciliat inopia amicos probat Exempla
Levis est fortuna id cito reposcit quod dedit
Non solum fortuna ipsa est caeca sed etiam eos caecos facit quos semper adiuvat
Misce stultitiam consiliis brevem dulce est desipere in loco
Ede bibe lude post mortem nulla voluptas
Atziluth ――
「 Acta est Fabula 」

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>>22194530
I really regret not jumping on it sooner, I could've been reading Senshinkan by now.

>> No.22194958

>>22194927
Rance IX translation when?

>> No.22194966

>>22194457
>>22194927
2 years isn't even close to be enough to read Senshinkan let alone KKK.

>> No.22194968

>>22194958
2022

>> No.22194973

>>22194966
>2 years isn't even close to be enough to read Senshinkan let alone KKK
Unless you're retarded and you haven't done a lot of reading in those two years

>> No.22194996

>>22194927
What would Rance’s craving be? I guess if he emanated, the world would just be a giant eroge?

>> No.22195294

>>22194958
Is it the one with not!Adol?

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>>22195294
Dunno who's Adol, but there's a not!Lupin.

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>>22195312

>> No.22195414

>>22195381
Oh, that's Arios from Rance X, which I haven't gotten to yet. No, as far as I know, he doesn't appear in IX.

>> No.22195930

>>22194973
What's your JLPT level? I bet you think you know Japanese but in reality you are just retarded and read like 90% of the texts wrong.

>> No.22195940

>>22195930
>What's your JLPT level?
Good one

>> No.22197166

>>22195930
Goddamit, anon, I get that you're trying to keep this thread alive, but you're dropping the quality too much with the posts like that.

>> No.22197311

I swear, the more time passes, the more autistic and closer to emanation this thread gets.

>> No.22197344

>>22197311
The fate of any general, this one’s chuuni nature simply makes it more noticeable.
At least we don’t have forced drama and attention whores yet.

>> No.22197643

>>22197344
What kind of forced drama we could even have?

>> No.22197691

>>22197643
waifu wars

>> No.22197703

>>22197643
Powerlevels wars obviously.

>> No.22197715

>>22197643
Old canon vs new canon like Type Moon.

>> No.22197750

>>22197691
Marie a best and literally no one disagrees.

>> No.22197781

>>22197750
Marie:
> is a metaphorical hunk of rock for much of the story
> needs not one but TWO divine interventions to give her personality and awaken any sort of emotion in her.
> a dumb blonde bimbo who "just wants to hug everyone".
> peasant who was born in the mud
> NEET
> French
> wears a tattered dress like a hobo
Eleonore:
> strong and principled woman
> Came to love Gold all by herself
> Rational but passionate
> Tall redhead with good proportions who just wants to love
> Has a respected job
> Aristocrat of aryan stock
> cool Hugo boss outfit
How can the hunk of metal even compete?

>> No.22197833

>>22197750
t. Cagliostro

>> No.22197865

>>22197643
Translator drama

>> No.22199266

>>22197311
good

>> No.22200227

>>22197750
Go to bed, Yato.

>> No.22200241

Sorry if this was already asked, but anyone got the original Japanese version of Avesta prologue?

>> No.22200250

>>22195930
Probably N3. Typical level of "I know Japanese" people on 4chan.

>> No.22200259

>>22200241
It's available on Enty for free.
https://enty.jp/posts/114825

>> No.22200272

>>22200259
Cool, I thought you have to register.

>> No.22200475

>>22200259
Did anyone share 第一章『凶戦士』前編? They want 1000 yen a month for that tier. Not that much, but it's a bother to set up.
https://enty.jp/posts/116034

>> No.22200484

>>22200475
If it's not that much, you can pay for it.

>> No.22200495

>>22200484
This is something I'd like to just get from someone.

>> No.22200508

>>22200495
And Masada and G would like to get some money for it.

>> No.22200521

>>22200508
3 people already giving them 50k a month. 40 people 10k. And lower tiers are even more numerous.

You don't need to suck their cocks, EOP pal.

>> No.22200538

>>22200475
https://pastebin.com/tLEkBcAD

Expires in an hour.

>> No.22200547

>>22200538
Thankie.

>> No.22200558

>>22200521
A lot of those supporters are motivated by the paid posts, so sharing them for free means they will have no reason to keep supporting them. If we're going to share it with anyone who asks for it, might as well post it on VS Battles for everyone to see, since that's apparently what we're going for here.

Is the idea of paying money for the things you want so hard to grasp?

>> No.22200571

>>22200558
Stop being so sanctimonious.

>> No.22200628

Has Masada expressed any interest in making Avesta a visual novel sometime in the future, or will it probably just stay a web novel?

>> No.22200644

>>22200628
Yeah.

>よって現状では絵とシナリオだけの小説的な作りになっており、それを公開していくつもりですが、目指す先は書籍化だけに留まりません。
>ここから音楽が付き、声が付き、携わる人も増えてドラマCD化やゲーム化、さらにアニメ化、そしてパンテオン復活……などと我々は夢を見ていますし、全身全霊で挑む所存です。

>> No.22200664

>>22200644
I'm glad to hear that. Characters like Wilhelm, Eleonore, and Mercurius would not be nearly as good as they are now without their voices. And music always adds to the excitement too.

>> No.22200687

>>22200558
>might as well post it on VS Battles for everyone to see, since that's apparently what we're going for here.
there is already a retard who post the pastebin and the chapter summaries there

>> No.22200696

>>22200664
Yes. I just read the prologue and it felt relatively flat as text only. I'll read the first half of the first chapter and hopefully it's better, but first I have to iron my clothes.

>>22200687
All English communities are bad by default.

>> No.22201593

>>22200696
Is that you Herkz?

>> No.22201647

>>22201593
No. He still exists? Is he slowly becoming brainwashed by trans propaganda on Twitter, like Kastel and Moogy?

>> No.22201690

>>22158508
>Zack translated those two terms as Sām and Šēbāṭīr.
I still have no idea what does it mean.

>> No.22201725

>>22200628
He even wants to make a new anime. It seems DI didn't teach him anything. But it's nice that he is so enthusiastic.

>> No.22202750

>>22201690
>Sām=black/dark colored in avestan
>Shebatir/Shewatir=Names with a stock epithet representing the Avestan "swift arrow" include al-Tabari's 'Aarashshebatir' and Mojmal's 'Arash-e Shewatir
Do your research you ignoramus.

>> No.22202927

>>22158508
Is that Zack guy trustworthy?

>> No.22202984

>>22158508
>Sām
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%81m
>Šēbāṭīr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arash
>Names with a stock epithet representing the Avestan "swift arrow" include al-Tabari's 'Aarashshebatir'

>> No.22203004

>>22200475

You can just buy Enty points through paypal.

>> No.22203430

>>22202750
>>22202984
Yeah thanks, but it's Shewatir then, not Shebatir.

>> No.22203469

>>22203430

Feel free to argue semantics over a language none of us speaks, but シェバーティール has a clear 'ba'.

>> No.22203472

>>22203469
But nips very often use wrong transliteration with kana.

>> No.22203483

>>22203472

Except you have an existing rendition of the word that's exactly the same as the reading.

>> No.22203516

>>22203430
No because Shewatir is シェーワーティール, where as Sebatir is シェバーティール
Their two different epitaths

>> No.22203911

>>22200558
It's so fucking funny that people still believe this is how piracy works when it has literally never been true.

>> No.22204054

Did anyone upload that KKK arbook that got scanned recently to EX or should i do it ?

>> No.22204408

>>22204054
I don't see it anywhere on there, so I would go ahead and do it.

>> No.22204421

>>22204054
no fuck off because shit like this they don't get money

>> No.22204450

>>22204054
>>22204421
Then just upload it to a mega and post it here, no one in this thread that hasn't bought it already is going to buy it in the future. :^)

>> No.22204453

>What kind of forced drama we could even have?

>> No.22204829

>>22204054
Link?

>> No.22204856

>>22204829
literally just finished uploading, i had trouble finding the Q&A part in my folders
https://exhentai.org/g/1496895/28a9ab5820/

>> No.22204870

>>22204856
Nice work, thanks anon.

>> No.22204951

>muh nichijou

>> No.22204977

>muh time

>> No.22206865

>>22204453
pottery

>> No.22207278

>>22203516
>Their two different epitaths
Anon learn English first.

>> No.22207288

>>22204421
Maybe you should fuck off already? On every board anons share content freely to help each other and only here some self-righteous jerks like you constantly whining how Masada won't get money. You sound like a tumblr landwhale.

>> No.22207299

>>22207288
Especially considering Masada's getting over a million yen a month on Enty.

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lmao

>> No.22207533

>>22204421
It's too late for Light. If you want them to have money go send it to their Enty.

>> No.22207729

>>22201725
Hopefully he is thinking of something original whose script fits in an anime as opposed to cutting a giant visual novel like Dies Irae to fit. If Sakurai Hikaru can get work as an anime script writer surely he could find a shot.

>> No.22209177

>Fulminant hepatitis pulmonary fibrosis autoimmune disease
>Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome
>Malignant tumor apoptosis
What a fucking joke

>> No.22209559

>>22209177
t. Keishirou

>> No.22210096

>>22209177
>Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome
Shirou is secretely african.

>> No.22210359

>>22210096
>Shirou is secretely african.
Naraka is secretly African.

>> No.22211119

>>22210359
>Tyrone

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Aaaahhhhhh... Eleonore...

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>>22211299

>> No.22211813

>>22187300
I actually walk around muttering under my breath all the time.

>> No.22212163

>>22211483
Cute trash bag Snek

>> No.22213235

>>22203911
>>22207288
>>22207299

Whiny anon is wrong about how piracy works but you've got to be delusional to think projects like these magically pay for themselves. VN devs are absolutely tiny and only exist because nips still pay for things. "A million" isn't nearly enough to expand the project into something greater than a glorified web novel.

>> No.22213428

>>22213235
>VN devs
They're not even VN devs. They're not even a they. It's Masada on his own who's paying G.
You're not pirating from a money hungry company, but from one guy creating the worj you love.

>> No.22213630

>>22213428
Despite that, the people who would pirate it aren't the people who would even consider buying it in the first place, either due to payment issues or because they just wouldn't. There isn't really any "lost sales", and I doubt any nips who would buy it are going to wander into this thread and find the pastebins with chapter dumps if they were here.

>> No.22213631

>>22213428
Most VN devs have a core of less than ten people. If it's tough on them it's tough for two.

>> No.22213944

>>22211813
>walking home
>realize I've been muttering the Mantra of Light all this time

>> No.22214103

Decided to check some dumb things on KKK and found this gem
https://youtu.be/XdLTvjSnUNU?t=66
>my tummy will not burn
how do they do it? how do they fuck it this badly?

>> No.22214185

>>22214103
machine TL

>> No.22214265

>>22214103
>VNW
Nothing new, most people here know that you should never use their shitty machine TL as a reference.

>> No.22214722

>>22214103
>can produce this high quality of VN, probably ranks only behind Mahoyo because of no sasuga animation
>lose it all for a mobage
I hate it.
also fuck me, that music is amazing, anyone knows what track it is?

>> No.22214894

>>22214722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt-QfoTBcRU

>> No.22214905

>>22214894
Thanks!

>> No.22215297

>>22214722
Mahoyo sucked dicks and Nasu is a hack. Masada is also a hack but not as much.

>> No.22215344

>>22215297
t.buttmad EOP seething he can't read it

>> No.22215372
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22215372

>>22215344
I read Mahoyo and it was legit boring for the most part, extending the worst features of F/SN onto the majority of the VN. It just ouright sucked, the language was nice and skilflul and all but it was boring save for the good parts.

I'm reading KKK now and it's great, but I'm still gonna call Masada a hack.

>> No.22215387

>>22215372
I mean, if was cearly not going to be an action packed VN, dunno why you read it if you find character centric works boring.

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22215423

>>22215387
>dunno why you read
Because I've enjoyed all the other Nasu works. And even though I enjoyed Mahoyo, I'll call it shit. Even though I give it 7/10, it's shit. Because deep in my heart I know Nasu could do much better.

>> No.22215482

>>22215423
Uh, okay...

>> No.22215672

>>22168949
Give me back my normal life you fucks. I'll make everyone's life normal.

>> No.22215886

>>22215423
Is that you, Dullahan?

>> No.22215889

>>22215423
Flat Snark was the culmination of all the kek.

>> No.22215897

>>22215672
>I'll make everyone's life normal.
That’s a dangerous thought.

>> No.22215910

>>22215672
But my normal life sucks

>> No.22215940

Senshinkan > DI/KKK

>> No.22216074

>>22215889
What does that even mean.

>> No.22216319

>>22215372
KKK was good until they make it over the ocean and get shitcanned. after that It just got really boring to me for some reason, and while I get what the finale was going for it still felt pretty disappointing.

>> No.22216328

>>22214103
Because EOPs are subhuman.

>> No.22216563

>>22215889
I read it as flat Snek and thought - but Snek was always flat.

>> No.22217148

>>22215940
reasons?

>> No.22217230

>>22217148
>inb4 because it's not as well know to EOP

>> No.22217277

>>22217230
Learn English, SEA monkey.

>> No.22217308

>>22217277
>inb4 because it's not as well known to EOP
: )
Fuck EOPs and SEA monkeys!

>> No.22217408

>>22217308
*known to EOPs

Learn English, spic.

>> No.22217454

>>22217408
>>inb4 because it's not as well known to EOPs
0__0
Fuck spic...spics...

>> No.22217477

>>22217454
You're probably some unholy mix between a SEA monkey and a spic.

>> No.22218602

>>22217477
u_u fuck me

>> No.22218986

Alright calm down guys, you're about to create a singularity and Snake won't like this.

>> No.22221974

If someone could answer my doubt.

I'm not really sure whenever or not if the LDO legion reincarnation comes from Reinhard Briah or Atziluth.

or is in both? while the Atziluth being just a more empowered version allowing them to face snek.

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