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Umineko, ciconia, rose gun days, higanabanana, Higurashi and all that jazz

Demo for Ciconia is out, it's about half an hour long and just introduces a few characters.
https://witch-hunt.com/stage_cic.html

Miyao is NOT a girl!

>> No.22030872

beato

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>> No.22030978

Demo is really interesting. Think about it. Everything we saw was a propaganda video and a fight that took place in VR. The nature of truth will once again be a theme.

>> No.22030982

>>22030884
The perspective on Jessica is fucked up.
At least Shannon's tits actually seem fake.

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>>22030982

>> No.22031004

Ryukishi is at least bi, right?

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>>22030978
>Demo is really interesting
WHAT
>all female cast
>half of only few men are blacks
>jewish,turkish and gypsy nuns
>a woman with a burka in secret service!!!!
>childish battler royale fate-like plot
>russian team is all anime clichè girl
>NO AMERICAN AND ITALIAN TEAM!!!! beatrice is italian!!!!

i am so mad with mangagamer first destroy umineko now destroy ciconia
ryukishi sold his souls for obtain a tumbrl fandom
if u want make this game call it MULTICULTURAL FATE CLICHè
NOT WHEN THEY CRY!!!!!

p.s.:george and kanon are the culrpits

>> No.22031200

>>22031004
I think at the very least he appreciates the beauty in both sexes

>> No.22031223

Anyone here a fan of Taishi? Don't get me wrong zts makes some hype tracks, but to me Taishi is the underrated gem. Even now he keeps putting out these emotion filled trancey 10 minute long songs that just take me on a trip

>> No.22031265

>>22031223
Do you have an example ? I'm interested.

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How can the one who wrote things like Shion's punishment, Rokkenjima's massacre, a half japanese man poisoning a child, etc... be this cute?

>> No.22031365

>>22031265
https://youtu.be/iyPsn4fK5kc
This is his most popular yt video from what I can tell, but he's got a lot of stuff that's standalone. Just yt taishi. He does techno/trance.

>> No.22031385 [DELETED] 

>>22030867
MODS delete my message and i didnt use no racism term!!!!
cmon this isnt reddit this is 4chan!!!

>> No.22031448

>>22031293
never looked up much Ryukishi interviews etc. until i finished higurashi and umineko but from his writing i always got the sense that he was a sweetheart, despite his penchant for extremely violent scenes

>> No.22031500

>>22031265
https://youtu.be/keF7n1eVKzE
Also this if you're in a relaxed mood

>> No.22031572

>>22031448
Was at one of the fan events. He's the sweetest a man can be.

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I want to spend a hour in a storage closet with Shannon and then have her come out wiping her mouth in very suggestive manner while the fat glasses man looks on in horror!

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>>22031572
well it's good to get confirmation that he's a cool guy honestly
>>22031969
I want to lose a game to Erika and become her property for all eternity!

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>>22032052
I want to charter a dive boat to the Bermuda Triangle with Erika and use duct tape on the galley door so we can have sex while everyone is up on deck!

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*ahem*
BOY

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Childish lady Erika

>> No.22032218

>>22031004
I believe every Japanese male is bi simply from living with so many androgynous twinks all their lives.

>> No.22032232

keiichi forced feminzation

>> No.22032258

Can the witches read people's internal monologues like the youkai in Higanbana do?

>> No.22032282

>>22032258
I think I remember Featherine doing this to Ange. Not entirely sure though.

Why do you ask? Writing something?

>> No.22032283

Remember when people had Umineko theories for each game that involved characters acting irrationally just to get around the red truth? And they saw nothing wrong with these theories? Hilarious.

>> No.22032341

Nowsdays that Ciconia is gonna come out, is there any more active WTC thread on 4chan other than /jp/? it seem like this only thread available so far

>> No.22032348

>>22032283
Hindsight is 20-20

>> No.22032359

>>22032283
"The culprit threw a severed hand to the door from outside while being careful not to touch any part of the window and that's how they made the knocking sound!"

>> No.22032362

>>22032341
/a/ and /v/ has thread about those occasionally and then there's /u/ but it's more on yuri side of wtc than anything

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>> No.22032389

>>22032341
/a/ and /v/ are full of retards who never read anything other than Umineko and think the Higurashi anime is a decent portrayal of the story. Discord is full of discussion but it's from annoying SJWs that deserve to die.

In the end, this is the best place for discussion. But there's no way to avoid spoilers, so stop reading if you see one.

>> No.22032412

>>22032341
/v/ has umineko threads that reach bump limit more than you would think
i kinda like them

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>>22032341
if you're into gay stuff, /u/ has decently active wtc thread. /v/ and /a/ has some to but thread locked too fast for any proper talk

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Sup jaypee, I think this author is pretty cool and his work is very inspiring. Alright, got to go. Don't be a stranger haha. See ya.

>> No.22032551

>>22030867
I had an epiphany: at the end of Ciconia's demo, we have a Kennedy quote. What if the mystery/killing would be the same kind as Kennedy's? By that I mean that one or more heads of state will be murdered.
If I remember correctly, Kennedy was killed in the middle of a parade in his car.
Sounds like foreshadowing to me. Just like the "Without love, it cannot be seen" of Umineko.

>> No.22032575

Oh shit. Some important dude gets killed, everyone goes into panic mode trying to figure out who to blame/focus on intrigue galore, everyone's watching over their shoulder questioning their own allies and it's another cold war. I think you might be right.

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I want to hug and comfort Lambda when she gets the fear that she still might be stuck in the loop!

>> No.22032663

>>22032551
I'm predicting that Keropoyo will be intentionally corrupted to give someone false information and get them killed. Also, someone will murder a head of state and trick characters into believing Miyao did it, by having Miyao kill what appears to be the president in VR.

>> No.22032670

>>22032659
>ywn own an orphanage from hell and throw a blonde loli naked into a literal sewer full of shit

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I want aunt Eva to molest me so much that I end up with more personalities than Sybil!

>> No.22032793

Man, the one thing that threw me off in Umineko was just how cold blooded Kyrie and Rudoph were in Ep7 tea party. I have mixed feelings about it, while yes Kyrie was shown to have a calculating personality, I never thought of her being able to carry out a massacre of her entire family, let alone Rudolph. But I guess a lot of Umineko also comes down to how you can't just put a single label on them like 'womanizer' or 'money-hungry' as they all had more depth than just a single trope and that there might be more hidden beneath that first label surface.

>> No.22032812

>>22032793
Plenty of people would kill if they could get away with it and be rewarded with a lifetime of pleasure without having to work ever again. Rudolf just needed more convincing because it's his immediate family and he's not as cold blooded as Kyrie. But in the end, both of them were trying to think of themselves as comic book villains to avoid feelings of guilt.

>> No.22032856

>>22032793
Kyrie was raised in a mafia family full of murderers and other scum. She's nice but not so nice that she wouldn't take advantage of a one in a lifetime chance, even if it involves taking other people down.

But I think anything not directly witnessed by Eva was a fabrication. She was needessly cruel in a way that only a "monster" imagined by Eva could be. That's probably not the real Kyrie.

Also, she was put in an abnormal situation where she had to choose between easy money and dealing with the consequences of what happened in the underground room. Of course she'd choose the first option. Also, she is already guilty because she shot Rosa. But she probably thought that if she didn't, either Rosa or Eva would carry out a massacre to keep the gold and kill her too. She assumed Rosa and Eva were that kind of person, so she acted first and became the "winner" rather that letting herself be killed.

Under normal circumstances, she wouldn't hurt a fly.

>> No.22032986

I'm worried about the girls in Ciconia not having hairy teenage pussies.

It was a thing in Higurashi, Umineko and RGD. Surely they wouldn't drop such an important theme now, right?

>> No.22033081

Ok how long does RGD and Higanbana takes to read?

>> No.22033098

>>22032986
Bush is making a comeback as we speak and it's only natural that something so lewd would be the standard in a futuristic enlightened society. So yes, Gunhild has a super hairy green pussy like Mion once did.

>> No.22033143

>>22033081
RGD is as long as 4 episodes of Umineko. Higanbana is more like 2, if you count both nights.

If you are planning to rush through them before Ciconia comes out, give it up. There is NO reason to do that, since neither of them have anything to do with Ciconia whatsoever. Don't ruin them for yourself and read at your own pace.

Reading them first is like reading Higurashi (the anime is a fucking travesty) before Umineko. It allows you to catch all the Higurashi references in the narration, especially during the first two episodes, but it's not necessary to enjoy the story on its own.

So don't try to read them fast in preparation for Ciconia because there is no reason to do that and you'll just ruin them for yourself and not enjoy them one bit. It would be like a rushed, unmemorable, lightning fast summary of the story, like the Higurashi anime. And that's terrible.

>> No.22033204

>>22033143
You could easily read Higanbana before Ciconia comes out, it's like 9 hours long

>> No.22033210

>>22033081
Depends on your pace. Higanbana took me around a week and a half. RGD took a whole month, probably longer.

>> No.22033225

I want to support Ryuukishi, so I refuse to pirate his stuff if possible.

If I buy it on Steam, do I NEED Steam at all afterwards? Do I need an internet connection to boot up the game or something? I just want to buy it, save it to my hard drive, make another copy for my backup drive, delete my Steam account and never visit the damn site ever again because I seriously have no interest in it.

>> No.22033242

>>22033204
Not really. Maybe the first night is 9 hours, but the two together are much longer than that.

But yeah, you could read it in like a week or two. I'm just saying that rushing it without stopping to enjoy the atmosphere or think about the story is a waste. It's consuming a story and killing it without properly getting invested in it, just like Featherine said in EP8.

You can probably read all of RGD between the first episode of Ciconia and the second, since there'll be at least six months between each entry. And if my suspicious are correct, it will be very interesting because it's possible that Ciconia is straight up a "sequel" set in the same universe.

>> No.22033259

>>22033225
Have mangagamer/07th expansion used steam DRM for their other releases? If not, I wouldn't worry about it. If so for whatever reason, pretty much everything that releases on steam gets cracked sooner or later, so you could just buy the game and kill the DRM.

>> No.22033261

>>22033210
>>22033143
Thanks. You are probably right not to rush it but Ciconia is still like a month away and I have nothing else to do anyway.

>> No.22033268

>>22033261
You don't need to read Ciconia the moment it's released.

>> No.22033312

I think it's really suspicious that TAKANO of all people is showing up in this story, considering her whole deal with collecting contry flags as a kid.

>> No.22033326

>>22033259
I see. What about achivements? I really don't care for that shit and don't want anything to do with it. But since they added them to Higurashi and Umineko, they'll probably be in it.

Surely there'll be a way to completely disable that garbage, right?

>> No.22033337

>>22033326
These days there are steam-only achievements IIRC, as in the game itself doesn't know about them. So if they don't mess with the engine it should be fine.

>> No.22033349

>>22033326
If they're tied to steam, all you have to do is not play through steam and you're good. They usually are. Though if they are in the game itself that's a different story. I don't know what MG's history is with that though, since I've mostly only played fan translation releases

>> No.22033355

>>22033326
Achievements are the most poinless shit ever invented. Especially when added to a fucking linear VN that didn't even have them originally. They are just lame puns written by random westerners that pop up at key moments of the story and ruin your immersion.

It's not like they bother me personally because I keep them disabled, but it sucks that once again I can't discuss something I love with other people without bumping into people who had that crap enabled for whatever reason and took the story less seriously because of it.

>> No.22033356

>>22033143
I started re-watching the Higurashi anime recently and I'm enjoying it like a refresher on the story since its been a couple years since I read it. Though I'm more finding it humorous on a meta level than getting the impact the sound novels had.

Confusing a spicy ohagi for a needle, his friends driving him insane by faking an alibi for him etc.

Tempted to read it again but if I'm gonna invest that time and effort I'd probably read Umineko instead.

>> No.22033359

>>22033337
>if they don't mess with the engine
Why exactly did they remove the rain effect in Umineko and replaced it with static rain painted onto the backgrounds?

>> No.22033364

>>22033225
>>22033326
You can also buy it from Mangagamer's website. They just give you a download link and that's that. No DRM or achievements or anything

>> No.22033369

>>22033364
That sounds better, but are they getting more money if I buy it from their website? I really don't want to support those hacks after what they did to Higurashi.

>> No.22033420

When the Humiliatees Cry

>> No.22033467

http://what-when-how.com/social-sciences/humiliation-social-science/

>The field of humiliation studies emerged in the early twenty-first century.

>The phenomenon of humiliation is rapidly gaining visibility and significance. Expectations of equal dignity and opportunity rise as people come closer together, both physically and digitally, in a globalizing world.

>Few researchers have studied humiliation explicitly. In many cases the term humiliation has not been differentiated from other concepts. In the work of HumanDHS, in contrast, humiliation is addressed on its own and is differentiated from other concepts: humiliation is, for example, not regarded simply as a variant of shame.

>In today’s mainstream language, the word humiliation is used threefold. First, the word humiliation signifies an act; second, a feeling; and third, a process: "I humiliate you, you feel humiliated, and the entire process is one of humiliation." This triple meaning of the word humiliation complicates its use; sometimes humiliation indicates the feeling of a victim, sometimes the act of a perpetrator, sometimes the entire process from act to feeling.

>the earliest recorded use of to humiliate, meaning to mortify or to lower or to depress the dignity or self-respect of someone, did not occur until 1757

>Humiliation is a complicated concept. Not always does a person witness a humiliator and a humiliatee. For example, help may humiliate.

>It may be precisely humiliation that hampers cooperation. Many people profess their love for peace, while being unaware that their fear of humiliation and their wish to resist humiliation may foreclose peace. A Somali proverb makes this point very clear, "A man deserves to be killed and not to be humiliated."

>Adolf Hitler imagined future world domination and humiliation from the World Jewry (Weltjudentum), and the Holocaust was his atrocious attempt to "prevent" future humiliation.

>> No.22033481

>>22033467
>>The field of humiliation studies
This is a thing?

>> No.22033507

>>22033369
I don't know, but I assume they're getting money either way. The Steam version is also published by them

>> No.22033668

So, the last part of the OP is CLEARLY Miyao entering another dimension, right?

>> No.22033681

Whoever the mastermind will be this time, I sure hope they have a good motive for destroying such a wonderful utopia.

>> No.22033695

>>22033681
I am sure Kennedy has a good motive.

>> No.22033711

>>22033695
>Kennedy
https://exhentai.org/s/30c7dac2a0/633540-4

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>>22033681
If only you knew how bad things really are for him to do this.

>> No.22033804

>>22033681
If you read the nations page on the ciconia website, you'll quickly realize that it's business as usual. Someone holds power, someone else craves that power, the peasants are left at the whims of those on top.

>> No.22033869

>>22031969
meanwhile the fat glass man with kanon cut of your face

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can someone sa to me why this is shitposting?
i just post my thought!!! about new when they cry!!!
if you dont like me post why not ban me!!!

>> No.22034017 [DELETED] 

>>22033894
Your disregard of grammar and syntax rules are akin to people shitposting, in case you are being serious you are most likely being reported for low quality posts. Try to fix your posts up a bit and you will stop getting warnings.

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>>22034017
>muh grammar
just you hate anyone who criticize ciconia!!!!
why you defend this
i know ryukishi made masterpiece game
but if the best artist made a shit this will be always a shit

>> No.22034074 [DELETED] 

>>22034017
>akin
as opposed to kin?? lmao lmao roflmao lmao lmao lamo

>> No.22034092

What if the announcer in the propaganda video is Keiichi Maebara, the magician of words?

>> No.22034103 [DELETED] 

>>22034068
I can't speak for anyone else, but I just hate people who make repetitive, borderline illegible posts for any reason.
>>22034074
Are you double posting or do we have two retards who don't know English in the thread?

>> No.22034112

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJSsPliUKxk

>"Rouge"
>red truth sound effects in the middle of the song
Hmmmmmmmm

>> No.22034114

>>22034092
Something terrible would have had to happen for Keiichi to help in a project that will kill so many kids.

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Rena's my waifu~

>> No.22034167 [DELETED] 

>>22034103
2+2=4 will be true forever
just like things i say

>> No.22034250 [DELETED] 

>>22034103
>Are you double posting or do we have two retards who don't know English in the thread?
english is a cuck language for faggots learn latin

>> No.22034289 [DELETED] 

why u delete my message you abuse of your powers
go to plebbit!!!

>> No.22034322

>34 on the locomotive
WHAT DOES IT MEAN

>> No.22034349

The LATO description makes me think reinarnation has been proven to be real in this setting.

>> No.22034367

So, Cagando Virgilia is smug and has RIKA in her name, but Brazilian Beato doesn't seem to be related to Lambda at all.

Then we have that one girl who looks like she could be possessed by Bernkastel and wears a similar dress. And the Satoko ass Asuka expy wears cinnamon buns on her hair, so she could be a Lambda piece.

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>those hips
DAMN.

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>she wears a literal dog collar choker
Waifu.

>> No.22034486

>>22034438
>like a thot
fuck off cuck

>> No.22034493

>>22034407
>crying child
>secret service
disguting moefag clichè

>> No.22034519

>>22034493
>secret service
Literally what.

>> No.22034578

>>22034493
>child
She's got a super hairy teen pussy and actual tits. She's no kid.

>> No.22034650

>Now, as you probably realized in the test version, we made some changes in our translation choices. Honorifics were not kept this time around, because we believe that unlike umineko and RGD, the setting made much more sense with "smooth transition" with Kizuna.

Is this a good or a bad thing?

>> No.22034656

>>22034578
image care about body
mind count

>> No.22034661 [DELETED] 

>>22034519
image russians put their ultimate technology on a woman with a mental age of 10yo
moeshit clichè

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This is interesting.

>> No.22034698

>>22034578
https://exhentai.org/g/902944/0dcf837291/

https://exhentai.org/g/1402404/8091415ba9/

She reminds me of this cute humiliatee who gets her human dignity destroyed in these two doujins.

>> No.22034708

>>22034680
It does seem interesting. I have no idea what that is.

>> No.22034720

>>22034680
so george and kanon confirmed the culprits!!!!

>> No.22034737

>>22034698
Guglielmo is a GOD of humiliation.

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that's kinda far fetched

>> No.22034826

>>22034797
You only say that because you don't have cinnamon rolls in your head to increase the sugar levels of your blood.

>> No.22034840

>>22034797
fuck off logic
muh battles

enjoy your battler royale shit

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if the first 2 message bottles were written before the family conference, how come ange isn't in the first 2 stories, when rudolf and kyrie said she got sick just the night before?

>> No.22034882

>>22034797
It's true, though. The brain is a physical organ that needs energy to work. If you are low on glucose, you stop thinking correctly and make a dumb move or fail to notice your opponent's strategy, losing the chess match.

>> No.22034912

>>22034882
no but even then there are more factors to a game than that. to say that they are "decided" by glucose levels is far fetched. i don't like that word choice.

>> No.22034915

>>22034865
I don't remember but my guess would be they let Rudolph know that Ange's not attending due to her illness?

>> No.22034919

>>22034797
I want to STEAL Ryukishis filters

>> No.22034927

>>22034865
maybe kanon does not want to kill children so she hoped at least in her fantasies that ange would not come to the island
or kanon had agreed with kyrie before starting the murders?
this explaine why she didnt die after a shot in the head

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22035000

Have to do everything myself. Well okay. OC donut steel

>> No.22035058

>>22034797
>>22034912
It's probably foreshadowing.

>> No.22035065

>>22035000
Is that semen on the cinnamon buns?

>> No.22035070

>>22035065
You'd have to be one hell of a sharpshooter to produce such a precise pattern of semen

>> No.22035077

>>22035065
>>22035070
Miyao's semen!

>> No.22035092

>>22035000
I hope this bitch is more fucked up than Asuka.

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>> No.22035139

>>22035121
The thing on her hair is apparently Ryuukishi's yellow slug mascot and NOT keropoyo.

>> No.22035293

>>22034698
She looks so fucking stupid and vulnerable naked. What a stupid body!

>> No.22035355

Don't ever leave me

>> No.22035361

Is the Baccano anime any good if I loved RGD?

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>>22034840
>enjoy your battler royale shit
>battler royale
100 Battlers locked in a fight to the death

>> No.22035374

>>22035362
Why does OG Battler have so much SOUL?

>> No.22035387

Why did Gertrude and Chiester 00 look so similar? They were lame as fuck too.

At least GAATORUDOOOO was helpful, but the chiester was literally pointless.

>> No.22035389

>>22035361
I dislike Baccano because it tries to tell so many stories from so many perspectives at once that it ends up with almost nothing happening beyond a couple retarded fights
I loved RGD though

>> No.22035399

>>22035374
starting to realize that battler might be my fav r07 character design.

>> No.22035404

I wonder if someone's mind will get trapped in the VR and separated from their bodies, rendering them unconscious forever.

>> No.22035411
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This motherfucker right here. The most interesting character and the most intimidating one from RGD. Gabriel ain't got shit on this guy.

>> No.22035415

>>22035374
PS3 Battler is handsome, but he's too perfect. OG Battler feels more down to earth. He's supposed to be just a random tall dude that dressed up nice for the family conference, not some supermodel.

>> No.22035423

>>22035411
No iguana though. What a loser!

>> No.22035429

>>22035411
I agree. Every single scene with him was tense as fuck but also really funny. He also reminds me of Kinzo in that scene where he shows off his clocks.

>> No.22035431

>>22035411
The chinese were so cool in RGD, gread bad guys

>> No.22035432

>>22035415
I think that's a pretty consistent issue with the PS3 sprites. Everything is too pretty and clean. The roughness adds a lot to the charm of the old sprites and backgrounds.

>> No.22035442

>>22035411
>blue dragon wang
Sounds like a furry tag.

>> No.22035457

>>22035415
Same with Maria. She looks too generically cute and expressive, while the original made her look average and didn't make her so expressive because she's supposed to have a plain 'tism face most of the time. And holy fuck those awful exaggerated CGs ruin the perception you are supposed to have of her character and the mood of the scenes themselves.

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>> No.22035483

>>22035432
I can't imagine how they'll suck the soul out of the Ciconia backgrounds in the inevitable console release without completely fucking up the atmosphere.

I mean, they are so damn weird and colorful. I can barely tell what the hell I'm looking at half the time, and I think that's the point. The blurriness makes it feel like the city is covered in a thin layer of spiritium mist or something.

>> No.22035500

>>22035483
I wouldn't call a console release inevitable. It's been a long while since Ryukishi has been in the mainstream(by jp standards) light. I think a console release will only happen if ciconia is a big hit.

>> No.22035502

Is Ryuukishi the only VN writer that uses the "UUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH"? I've never seen such a raw display of emotion outside of maybe Kaiji.

>> No.22035516

>>22035502
Que anime protag on his knees in the rain holding his dead/unconscious waifu, tilting his head back and yelling

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>> No.22035606

>>22035411
>>22035431
this
Gabriel on the other hand was such a evil villain that it was almost comedic. I'm pretty sure he would've been a shitty antagonist if he didn't go at least as far as he did. I found it rather exaggerated and that's why i thought ep4 felt rushed.

The chinese on the other hand were interesting all around. I knew since the first time i heard this theme when that iguana man appeared: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh3IoJhuQFs

I probably liked ep3 the best. That heist in the restaurant was also very well executed and not something very typical for ryukishi imo.

>> No.22035645

>>22032551
>>22032575

I think Ciconia's gonna have a lot of the same territory as Rose Guns Days.

>> No.22035656

>>22033204
You could also read some of Higanbana and not finish it before going to Ciconia. Come back and finish it later. It is quite episodic.

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>>22035411
look george ready to commit murders again

>> No.22035661

>>22033225
No, you don't have to use Steam.

Also you can buy the games on GOG as well, a site dedicated to completely DRM-free PC games. That's where I buy most of my games since I'm a bit of a DRM-free fanatic.

>> No.22035669

>>22033268
>You don't need to read Ciconia the moment it's released.

It does reduce the risk of getting spoiled.

>> No.22035682

>>22033356
>I started re-watching the Higurashi anime recently and I'm enjoying it like a refresher on the story since its been a couple years since I read it.

One thing I like even more for this is the manga. I actually think the manga are a pretty good summary. I'd probably recommend them to someone who wanted to absorb the Higurashi story but absolutely refused to play the VNs, over the anime.

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Wish me luck bois. Re-reading this for the nostalgia.

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Someone fucked up exporting the sprites.

>All Chloe sprites are in low quality color
>Only Lilja "lil_g01" sprite is in high quality color. The other 3 is in low quality color.
>Miyao sprites from 1 to 20 is in low quality color. From 32 to 47a is in high quality color.
>All Okonogi sprites is in low quality color

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>>22030867
Someone fucked up exporting the sprites.

>All Chloe sprites are in low quality color
>Only Lilja "lil_g01" sprite is in high quality color. The other 3 is in low quality color.
>Miyao sprites from 1 to 20 is in low quality color. From 32 to 47a is in high quality color.
>All Okonogi sprites is in low quality color

>> No.22035778

>>22035741
Emailing witch-hunt chronotrig.dev@gmail.com might get them to solve the issue before the launch

>> No.22035794

>>22035778
i already did.

>> No.22035799

>>22032856
>She was needessly cruel in a way that only a "monster" imagined by Eva could be.
And this is most likely because of how Kyrie tried to play the comic book villain in front of Eva so the latter could kill her without any guilt. It is quite apparent she cared for Ange but things weren't going anywhere now that Rudolph is dead. Might as well turn into a monster so the only family left could take care of her daughter, but we all know what happened due to the extreme circumstances.

>> No.22035814

Speaking of RGD, do you think there were lies/embellishments in the narration? Considering the entire story is told by Madam Jeanne.

Things like the Belton Plaza hotel fight are so spectacular that maybe the story is being embellished. They did need a grandiose story to establish Primavera's position in the underworld, so... Also, there are many gunfights during the story but we rarely see any random dude getting killed. Is she trying to paint Primavera as a bunch of angels by minimizing the casualties in the story?

>> No.22035830

>>22035814
I wouldn't put it past Leo to have actually done that, word for word. Dude is a daredevil with no fear of death.

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>>22034865
;)

>> No.22035873

>Higurashi, Umineko and RGD have good mangas
>Higanbana is stuck with a super shitty manga that isn't even complete
Will Ciconia get a manga even if it's not successful enough for a garbage anime adaptation?

>> No.22035893

>>22035873
From what I've heard the Umineko manga is quite good, but how are Higurashi and RGD by comparison?

>> No.22035945
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Umineko re-explored the Miyoko/grandpa situation from Higurashi by having Ange successfully turn Maria and her ideas into a eternal existence, a "god".

Higanbana took the magic stuff from Umineko and created a society of magical beings that actually exist and make sense as forces of nature.

RGD explored even further some of the themes from Higanbana, especially the two chapters featuring Yukari. The loli from Higanbana became a fearless, violent bully to prevent others from taking her position and using it for evil. In RGD, Primavera becomes a fucking murderous mafia because someone has to be at the top of the underworld and it's better if that person has good intentions. The ends justify the means.

Ciconia seems to explore the failure to preserve Japanese culture (at least it's implied that Tokyo is some weird ass 19th century-looking city now) from RGD, but also the fascinating idea of magic (or in this case, technology so advanced it could be considered magic) granting you absolute freedom from the laws of physics, which was a subtle theme in EP3 and EP7 of Umineko.

>> No.22035953

>>22034112
It's just an old unused umineko song or something that they recycled

>> No.22035961

>>22035953
[citation needed]

>> No.22035971

>>22035893
The Higurashi manga is pretty damn good, if a bit exaggerated with the faces. It's very close to the quality of the Umineko manga, just not as good because it can't quite reproduce every single scene word for word like Umineko does for the most part.

The RGD manga changes some stuff (Nina loses screentime and Xiaolan looks a bit older for some reason), and alters some scenes to be more fitting for a visual medium, but it also adds really nice things that enhance the story if you already read the VN. I definitely recommend checking out the VN first, because it's a more cohesive and satisfying work with perfect pacing, but the manga is pretty interesting and feels like an slightly different retelling of the story.

>> No.22035977

>>22035961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qj68M4fE-I
not unused, but close

>> No.22036069

>>22035953
That doesn't negate it being called "rouge" and having red truth sound effects.

>> No.22036082

>>22034797
Someone never watched Gintama.

>> No.22036092

You know what's super important in my opinion? Character chemistry. The way they interact with each other should be endearing and entertaining. Higurashi had great chemistry, umineko had it as well. I just hope that by having so many characters in ciconia it won't affect the quality of the characters themseves

>> No.22036105

>>22035971
Didn't the manga skip too much stuff? IIRC, the onions sauce war was basically ignored, which was quite a huge chara development for Rose and some other chars.

>> No.22036112

>>22036105
>onions
I meant onions sauce, but for whatever reason, I type onions. I must be tired.

>> No.22036121

Why do you guys post once every 7 hours then make like 60 posts in one.

>> No.22036127

>>22036121
Because we're trying to time our posts to the times when you're most busy.

>> No.22036129

>>22036112
>>22036105
That word is filtered to onions because /v/ couldn't stop spamming "$0yboy" at everything they didn't like along with those wojacks making the :O face.

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>>22034865
you can't prove that the first two message bottles were written before the explosion, can you?
>>22035865
;)

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She's so underappreciated, I love this cute criminal!

>> No.22036225

>>22036187
>though it's unofficial and only happened once, she has supposedly surpassed the highest P3 level measurements of Miyao, the world record holder, by a considerable margin.
i'm afraid of her bros

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>>22036225
How can you be afraid of a girl with such a cute smile?

>> No.22036290

>>22036230
>missing tooth
B-bros I don't like where this is going

>> No.22036309

>>22036105
That's why I said it's a different version of the story, kind of like the Evangelion manga which cut some angels.

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>> No.22036326

>>22036321
miyao is straight

>> No.22036333

>>22036326
That's right, straight-up homosexual

>> No.22036337

>>22036333
proofs?

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>>22036321

>>22036290
Maybe she's just a super badass Russian 12 year old. It's not rare for young girls to be missing teeth.

>> No.22036360

>>22036326
I think Miyao is unironically straight and it's the other dude that is a faggot. Miyao never said anything gay.

Also, Okonogi never told the officer dude the truth about how exactly the boy in the video died. He only told us in his inner monologue. WHAT IS HE HIDING? Will the black officer guy be a well-meaning clueless fool who gets tricked and manipulated by Okonogi without suspecting a thing?

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Miyao is wearing a roman soldier outfit. It's not a fucking skirt.

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I love this manlet

>> No.22036372

>>22036369
Kek what a manlet bitch

>> No.22036379

>>22036366
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome

>> No.22036395

I'm attracted to dick but not to men.

>> No.22036405

I'm attracted to men but not to dick.

>> No.22036407

I'm attracted to women

>> No.22036409

>>22036395
PSSST, hey you. Over here. Yes you
You looking for some feminine penis right?
may I interest you in some good quality brand name traps?

>> No.22036422 [SPOILER] 
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>> No.22036640

>>22036360
Yeah I think Jayden's feelings are set up to be one sided, Miayo's feeling seem to indicate he does not feel the same way or is even aware of Jayden's feelings. I feel Jayden is going to die either halfway through or towards the end to instill a change within his team. That punch he and Miyao had feels like it's a set up for some kind of arc.

>> No.22036679

>>22036640
He will lose his fucking arm and joke about it as he dies.

>> No.22036690

Miyao being a competent manly dude with a height complex is a refreshing change of pace.

>> No.22036691

>>22036679
"Haha, guess you've got a farther reach than me now... Buddy."

>> No.22036776

Keropoyo

>> No.22036799

>welcome to A3W
So the story this time is taking place in the post-WW3 world itself, rather than a specific location? Will be see different countries and shit?

>> No.22036814

So who will be the first to die and how?

How exactly will the "resets" work this time around?

>> No.22036823

>>22035945
>Ciconia seems to explore the failure to preserve Japanese culture (at least it's implied that Tokyo is some weird ass 19th century-looking city now) from RGD, but also the fascinating idea of magic (or in this case, technology so advanced it could be considered magic) granting you absolute freedom from the laws of physics, which was a subtle theme in EP3 and EP7 of Umineko.

Krauss confirmed to be a genius entrepreneur with his space tourism program

>> No.22036854
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I gotta say, I really enjoyed that demo! The music is top notch as expected of a When They Cry title, the music perfectly fits the sequences and Miyao is already a very likable protagonist. I like how much personality he already has.

The biggest plot twist so far is that Miyao is actually male and not female, I was 100% expecting him to be a girl based on his design for like a year so I still can't wrap my head around the fact that he's a guy properly lmao

Also, Jayden and Miyao seem to have quite a bit of chemistry and subtext, they're very close and Jayden seems to be crushing on Miyao. Jayden and Miyao's dynamic actually reminds me a lot of Ange and Amakusa from Umineko.

I like how the prologue set up these gauntlets as harmful things that have caused multiple young lives to be lost, and shows how the company behind it is full of propaganda and lies and in the very next scene we get a sequence about how fun, exhilarating and cool these gauntlets are. It does a very good job of contrasting and showing two different sides of the situation and I'm very interested to see where it goes.

The little frog mascot is immensely entertaining already, I like him.

The budget seems greatly upped for this compared to Umineko, there are quite a few bursts of animation here and there. I love the sprites as well, they're so expressive.

The worldbuilding and futuristic setting is also super interesting, I can't wait to see how it's developed when the game comes out.

>> No.22036858

very diverse cast :)

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The most interesting thing I found about it was the frequent and deliberate dissonance in how the world is setup. There's a buildup to a festival celebrating world peace, but when it's finally shown it's paradoxically revealed to be a grand display of military might. The same military that's responsible for these grandiose displays is shown to treat human life as cheap for the sake of creating self sustaining propaganda that's difficult to differentiate from its peacetime festivities.

There's also mention of a great wall that exists as a monument to peacetime, with portents of its fall heralding the start of war. But typically walls aren't associated with peace or unity, and most walls in history are associated with some conflict or segregation. The quote that gives us this information is also from someone with allusions to John. F. Kennedy, who was famously assassinated during the tenuously peaceful period paradoxically called the Cold War.

The dissonance appears in other, seemingly less important aspects of the setting. The world is obviously set in the future, with innovations far beyond what seems fathomable today, presented as technology rather than as magic. But there's a return to old things in other aspects, with the cityscape being dotted with billboards and 19th century European architecture.

Yet the only old person we see in this narrative, that's otherwise populated by improbably young characters, is the senior ranking military officer. Despite his apparent seniority in an organisation known for its clear hierarchical structure, his existence seems irrelevant, with junior officers and staff declining to take his recommendations and another officer feeding him lies to prevent his involvement or knowledge of a situation.

The most important part of the scenario are the Gauntlets. With the many references to the military, and to a peacetime set on shaky foundations, it's difficult to not suspect these wartime weapons of ultimate power will end up being positioned as deterrents to war, a weapon that if most successfully deployed would never have to be used.

All of this was just from the first hour of the episode, but having read Ryukishi's other works it's interesting to guess how much foreshadowing might be in just this small slice of the full game. But I wouldn't be surprised if I'm completely off base, especially since he seems to be teasing us early in when the game basically says 'we need to put in lots of explosions into an early scene to hook the reader' - and then has a scene that does exactly that. Either way, based on what I've seen I'm excited for the rest of the episode.

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the true question is will we ever get the same wild ride and meme quality that Umineko was?

>> No.22036874

My guess is that issues regarding Spiritium will come into play, a big scandal will occur, and they'll end up having to go to war.

After all, it's giving me FFVII mako energy vibes. What the actual fuck is this energy source? Because the name makes it seem like it's literally human souls.

>> No.22036886

>>22035945
I did like how Ange wrote children's books about Sakutaro.

>> No.22036893

>>22035945
That first scene with Miyao did remind me a lot of the part where EVAtrice tests her new powers and feels like she's free from everything.

>> No.22036903

>>22036865
Nothing will ever surpass Battler's crying face, Beato's trollface or Kinzo's DESIRE face. But I'm sure memes will come about.

>> No.22036911

>>22036865
How the hell did Ryuukishi come up with such a perfect troll face for Beatrice? It's the one thing the PS3 version objectively butchers, no doubt about it.

>> No.22036919

Do Bern and Lambda actually fuck each other or is their love ironic?

>> No.22036925

>>22036919
>is their love ironic
What the fuck does this even mean?

>> No.22036944

Japan is apparently split apart in two, judging by character bios on the 07th Expansion site. It's a part of AOU and COU at the same time. And there's mention of a wall too.

>> No.22036946

>>22036925
anon just gave a few brojobs when he was younger

>> No.22036969

>>22036865
Posters these days don't come up with any OC of their own, so there's not gonna be any fresh memes.

>> No.22036980

>>22036903
>>22036911
I don't know if it is the nostalgia googles, but even fat joji had more charisma for me than the PS3 version. The voice acting was godly though, Erika's orgasm over a duct tape are good shit

>> No.22036984

>>22030867
So, how bad it is? Are everyone crying of disappointment yet?

>> No.22036989

If I play the demo, will it explain what P3, NPP, and CPP mean?

>> No.22037007

>>22036980
>nostalgia googles
Those are never a thing. It's just an excuse made up by tasteless faggots to disregard the opinion of purists.

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>>22036969
I was thinking about this recently, the "meta" of talking about things surely changed, I find it difficult to have some pure content instead of rewashed "memes", I mean it's difficult to imagine something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAfQaG6PboI appearing today, even Youtube content is quite changed.

>> No.22037016

>>22036969
Do super long humiliation pastas count as OC? Because he seems to come up with them on the spot.

>> No.22037057

>>22036989
No, but I can take a guess.

P3 seems to be their mental power/Evangelion sync rate required to use the gauntlets effectively. It's apparently genetic but can be increased with training/effort/drugs/"reeducation". Pretty sketchy stuff. And apparently Miyao's levels are so high they are actually analyzing his DNA to produce more babies with his genetic makeup and brain patterns.

NPP and CPP probably mean "Non-produced person" and "control-produced person". Which means Jayden was born from a normal family and not in a factory with selective DNA. But his brain has abnormal potential by pure luck, so he's superior to most CPPs despite not being one.

Play the demo, though. It's pretty good.

>> No.22037064 [DELETED] 

>>22036989
>CCS
Cagando Cagando Sakura, Maria's favorite anime.

>> No.22037085

>>22036984
I expected nothing because every time I finish a R07 VN I think "Ryuukishi can't possibly be this consistently good, he'll fuck up next time for sure". But every time I'm proven wrong and this was no exception. It has the potential to become my favorite VN of his, because the setting and themes are right up my alley.

>> No.22037096

Some of these girls look like they REALLY don't want to be here. What's the deal, were they forced to join the military because their brains are exceptional?

>> No.22037101

>100 years after WW3
>some asshole witch hunter somewhere is still trying to figure out what the fuck happened in Rokkenjima

>> No.22037153

>>22037101
I want it to be a real thing

>> No.22037254

>>22036984
Its above expectations so far.

>> No.22037255

What does this thread think of the Rika Nipah poster?
>>21979167

>> No.22037284

>>22037254
This. Expected strike witches jumping the shark. Got fucking tears in my eyes because the idea of flying like that is so awesome and the technological advancements described in the demo are very inspiring. I can't wait for October 4.

>> No.22037291 [DELETED] 

The cagandoness of a literal roree witch.

>> No.22037300

Higurashi had TIPs after each chapter and Umineko had tea parties at the end of the episodes. What will be the new gimmick?

>> No.22037470

>>22037300
Heterosexual cuddling sessions with Mitake Miyao.

>> No.22037482

>>22037284
The propaganda piece and Jayden and Miyao's fight sold me.

>> No.22037515

Does Meow have a voice? What's it sound like?

>> No.22037721

>>22037515
I read him in a voice similar to Ryou from Devilman Crybaby. Particularly how he sounds in the final scene.

>> No.22037903

>>22036984
too early to tell for me. but i do have some worries with the amount of gauntlet knights this story has.

>> No.22038297

Miyao will lose an eye due to how shitty IRL Gauntlets are and will wear an eyepatch for the entire game

>> No.22038308

>>22038297
shittiest leak

>> No.22038431

French Ange will accidentally drop her 3€ and die of starvation as a result. This was the event that sparked WW4.

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I love her

>> No.22038595

>>22038574
I liked the store owner

>> No.22038728

>>22038574
aren't they all used goods?

>>22035814
that's a deep rabbit hole to dig into considering how primavera and rose especially were depicted in the story. it's very possible that jeanne left out the stuff that wasn't so flattering.

>> No.22038751

>>22038574
>loving a hairy pussy whore with no dignity or self-respect

>> No.22039320 [DELETED] 

>>22038751
This. I bet some of her clients want to see her cagando. Absolutely no human dignity for this whore.

>> No.22039889

Imagine being an absolute beta who spells his name as "Miyao" instead of "Meow"
absolutely pathetic

>> No.22039937

Do you think Ryukishi is well read? I mean beyond Christie. He must have read some post-modernism and absurdist theater I imagine, considering Umineko.

>> No.22039941

>>22030867
I've never played a naku koro ni game but I wanna fuck Miyao

>> No.22039998

>>22039937
He seems to have a wide knowledge base, but I'm not sure how deep it actually is. For example he brings up a bunch of concepts related to logic, but he does so in a manner that makes it obvious he only has a surface level knowledge of it.

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This little thing still has me so excited. October 4th can't come soon enough

>> No.22040226

I won't be able to play Ciconia on October 4 because I have the annual family reunion on my grandpa's private mansion. I'm excited to see my roree cousin after so long!

Hopefully I'll be able to play it the next day or the day after that!

>> No.22040374
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Miyao!

>> No.22040378

>>22040226
Get off the internet and do something worthwhile with your life for once you good for nothing.

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Meow!

>> No.22040399

I don't care if it's a boy or a girl, that's a body made to be bred.

>> No.22040404

>>22040399
stop! being homosexual is against christian values!

>> No.22040448

>>22040404
It's not homosexual if you're just making an exception for Miyao.

>> No.22040499

My biggest worry is that ryukishi might be massively overdoing it in terms of scale. There are a lot of characters from a LOT of countries he has never touched before. I wonder how much he researched for this.

>> No.22040512

>>22040499
I imagine the deaths aren't going to be reset this time, so the cast size is probably going to be fine, I think.

>> No.22040519

>>22040499
He chose to combine some very odd countries that don't seem to reflect actual geopolitics in any way. But to be honest, R07 can do no wrong in my eyes; bring on the weird.

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This seems to imply that the format will be different from other WTCs? Unless he's not talking to the readers, but the last sentence seems to imply he is.

>> No.22040595

>>22040512
>WTC
>no resets
This really wouldn't feel like a WTC without death resets.

>> No.22040632

>>22040595
Maybe in ciconia 90% of the cast dies really early on and every iteration focuses on a very narrow cast of surviving characters. Like terrorist nuclear bomb at the exhibition of peace fast or something like that, not the step by step killing of the whole cast like umineko.

>> No.22040656

Shannon > Cravat.

>> No.22040789

>>22040656
An opinion you hold only if you're gay.

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>>22040789

>> No.22041010

What if the technological utopia we see in the demo is fake and everyone is trapped in VR? The real world could be a piece of shit. It's a fucking nuclear war after all, the aftereffects wouldn't just disappear that easily.

>> No.22041042

>>22041010
i think it's possible, but unlikely
>Cutting-edge technology saved the planet from a nuclear winter, allowing its population to reach the tens of billions once more.

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>>22030867
kanon and geroge are the culprit!!!

if shkanontrice is true who a fuck kill nanjo?
in my theory george thought shannon had faked her death so when he went to check on her kanon was forced to kill him and after that she kills nanjo
but in shkanonbeatrice yasu die before kill nanjo !!!

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>>22030867

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>>22041498
I bet that's Takano

>> No.22041540

>>22041498
i wonder which faction(s) will be the antagonists.

>> No.22041568

>>22041540
USA

>> No.22041604

>>22041540
All of them, but in the end, in order to achieve temporary world peace everyone will band together against the schemers and create a new world wide alliance

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>> No.22041639

>>22041612
It's not fair bros

>> No.22041700

>>22041612
That Mikasa scarf.

>> No.22041767

>>22037300
Debriefing.

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>>22030872
anon

>> No.22041824

bido

>> No.22041837

>>22041814
BEATO

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>> No.22041858

>>22041846
waiting warmly

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stop it

>> No.22041943
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Welcome to A3W Bern

>> No.22042041

I don't really want Bern and Lambda in this game
What I want is for some other entity to bait us really fucking hard into thinking they're involved only for it to turn out to be completely different

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>>22042041
Is the 17 a reference to the number of humans in the island?
>>22042041
the baiting part is done

>> No.22042257

genius children is such a good song

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I'm sorry, but can we talk about this?
Does this imply that Mion got their uniforms from one of those cheap stores that you find all over Akihabara that sell school uniforms and the likes for non-school purposes?
Man, there's so much I don't remember from Higurashi

>> No.22042532

>>22042257
I agree. It's wonderful.

>> No.22042558

>>22042257
It perfectly captures the exilarating feelign of flying unrestricted through the sky, but also the glory and prosperity of a futuristic civilization recovering from a nasty war and becoming more beautiful than ever.

>> No.22042585

>>22042558
I hope we get to see more of those beautiful backgrounds full of strange-looking buildings and dreamy color combinations.

Seriously, I expected a boring city environment and got this instead. If the full game looks like this, it'll be amazing. I love how bizarre and colorful every background looks.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

If this doesn't count as LGBT because the dude was born normal before being fucked up physically and mentally, why the hell are so many trannies pretending that Yasu is one of them? It's the same fucking situation.

>> No.22042637

>>22042616
i want to fuck ange

>> No.22042671

So why is French Ange part of the Arab squad and the religious police state?

Is this a reference to how modern day Paris is a "multicultural" hellhole full of muslims? Based Ryuukishi. I went to Paris a few years ago and it was indeed chock full of muslims. One of my French friends lives there and he tells me it's a pretty shitty place to live compared to how it was before, because the muslims keep robbing, raping and killing people every other day.

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>>22042616
>>22042637
Why does OG Ange blush when she's angry?

My theory is that she has internalized her humiliation at the hands of her bullies. She's now a perpetua humiliatee in her mind. She felt so much rage every time her enormous ego was shattered to pieces during her humiliations, that now her mind can't separate the feelings of RAGE from the feelings of SHAME. They are both mixed together and she can't get angry without having flashbacks of her humiliations or feel any amount of shame without getting super angry about it.

That's why she blushes and feels the pain of humiliation when she's mad at Beatrice. That's why she gets so angry whenever Amakusa says anything even remotely negative about her.

>> No.22042708

>>22042671
France is the most cucked country in Europe.

>> No.22042721

>>22031223
hey good opinion anon, I don't know of any other umineko tracks besides his remixes of goldenslaughterer and worldenddominator, but here have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI6J8p5N5OQ

>> No.22042723

>>22042616
>>22042701
Is Ange actually related to humiliation or is it just a meme? The evidence seems very compelling...

>> No.22042730

>>22042337
Her uncles run all kinds of shady businesses, including selling used panties and shit.

>> No.22042746

>>22042701
I love the idea of that selfish loli Ange getting what she deserves and turning into an angsty teenage edgelord with a short temper because she's trying to overcompensate, covering her low self-esteem and memories of being humiliated with a bullshit facade of being a tough girl.

>> No.22042760

>>22042701
Being a human girl is inherently humiliating. Ange is a human girl, which means she has a hairy pussy, bouncy breasts and a developed ass. So pathetic and obscene! Such an animal! How can she have any dignity with a body like that!

>> No.22042778

>>22034407
>>22034438
I hope these cute sluts get blown up into pieces and the disgusting shit inside their human guts flies all over the place and hits Miyao in the face!

>> No.22042796

>>22041540
the religious ones, Ryukishi always makes the religious character the reason behind all bad things

>> No.22042797

>>22034698
HOLY SHIT, this artist is a gift from God!

>> No.22042802

>>22042616
they will pull one of the 214515485448942184279424874514 types of gender shit to make their point.

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>>22041612
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.22042824

>>22042721
That's a pretty dope tune. I'm assuming that album is hella old, I've seen the cover a few times, but I've never heard of this taishi song.
Anyway, good taste senpai

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Is everyone in Ciconia using mental display shit to translate what foreigners say?

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22042875

More fuckable than Rika and Satoko combined.

>> No.22042876

>>22042857
I imagine it will indeed be that

>> No.22042906

>>22036980
I never played the voiced version but I've watched that scene on yt a fair few times, it's just too good.

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>>22035945
I suspect Ciconia might be a sequel to this.

>> No.22042979

Why does Madam Jeanne have a portrait of Higanbana?

>> No.22042984

>>22042875
some of the RGD artists were pretty good.

>> No.22043005

I might have some luck by asking here. Are there any people who know where or how to get a really good quality Beatrice tailored dress + wig for cosplaying? Price is not an issue. It's supposed to be a present

>> No.22043010
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>>22042760
Girls are pathetic and Ryu knows that. Every single one of his MCs is based and redpilled.

>> No.22043021

>>22042875
>wanting to fuck a dirty chink brat
Slant-eyed demons should be killed, not fucked.

>> No.22043025

>>22043005
you're probably better off asking on /cgl/, but I'd imagine a decent beato dress would be professional tailor territory

>> No.22043082

>>22035873
There are two Higanbana mangas. The shitty one and this:

https://higanbana.fandom.com/wiki/Gakkou_Youkai_Kikou:_You

It predates UMINEKO and is more like a pilot manga that only covers the first story. But it's more interesting than the terrible manga we got later.

>> No.22043099

>>22043082
Higanbana started out as a light novel called "School Yōkai Travelogue: Recruiting the Eighth Kaidan". It came out in 2006. It only ran for 3 chapters before being discontinued, then it got a 2007 manga adaptation that was discontinued after only 1 chapter. All of this before the 2010 manga, which is the one people are familiar with and is pretty crappy.

He should've just made it a VN from the beginning, because it turned out really damn good. It only took 14 fucking years.

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I think r07 nailed it with characters who used to be abused turning to abusers themselves. Like, as sad as it is to admit, I can kind of understand those characters as edgy as that might seem.

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I was going through Ryukishi's blog, and he did an entire post about the troll version of Higanbana First Night with Umineko music-

"Apparently, a version of "Higanbana" is being distributed on the net that replaces the BGM with music from "Umineko". In other words, it seems to be a phenomenon that occurs only with illegitimate copies.

This issue won't occur for those who acquire Higanbana at Comiket or hobby shops. Therefore, if your BGM is from “Umineko”, please acquire a legitimate copy in the future.

Gahh!
I wondered if there were bugs in the CD pressing, I got so heated today!
Anyone who acquires Higanbana illegitimately will be cursed!
And no, you don't have to be cursed."

I think it was a very succesfull troll, because to this day people are wondering what the fuck R07 was thinking when he "released Higanbana with Umineko music". Even though he did no such thing.

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>>22043112
The absolute madlad

>> No.22043117

>>22043110
Nobody will admit it, but everyone has a sadist inside them. If a girl is hot enough, it reduces your level of empathy for her and the idea of seeing her humiliated or guro'd becomes appealing because you find it lewd rather than being sorry for her.

>> No.22043125

>>22043112
I can't believe EP8-hating goats went so fucking far to discredit Ryuukishi. Japs are autistic fucks.

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>>22040226
just don't forget your DESIRE to play and it will be fine

>> No.22043196

>>22043183
Nicekastel is so cute, I hope she's not a cunt this time.

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>>22043082
>>22043099
The Higanbana manga is kind of interesting if you like loli arse.

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Now that I'm looking at it, the manga isn't really that bad. I kinda wish it was finished, because it's quite charming at times.

Too bad the artist died.

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I was revisiting some scenes from Umineko and I got hyped again, not for a re-read though, I'm inclined to play Higanbana and then Ciconia, skipping RGD because it doesn't appeal too much for me.

What am I in for, should I just do it?

>> No.22043226

>>22043220
The artist died while drawing a manga about bullying and youkais? What is this? A urban legend creating itself ?

>> No.22043227

>>22043224
You're just asking for spoilers. Go read

>> No.22043228

>>22043220
I don't like it because the artist gives the lolis HUGE Mion-sized boobs that make no sense.

>> No.22043236

>>22043224
At the very least read Higanbana. It shouldn't be too hard to finish before Ciconia comes out since it's not that long.

>> No.22043239

>>22043224
>skipping RGD because it doesn't appeal too much for me
I felt the same, but halfway through season 2 I began liking it more than Umineko AND Higurashi. Crazy, I know.

>> No.22043260

>>22043228
This. It's like the artist watched the DEEN anime adaptations and tried to copy their style. The creepy shit is super exaggerated to the point of being funny and the slice of life parts are full of fanservice shots that come out of nowhere and don't fit the mood.

It's pretty terrible. I wish he'd just draw an ecchi loli manga instead of being tasked with adapting Higanbana, because it REALLY doesn't fit. Especially when all the other lolis look like kids but Midori alone is given massive fucking tits for no reason because the author needs them for fanservice or something.

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Mods, do NOT delete my post. Frogs are now a part of this general

>> No.22043270

>>22043224
I read the RGD demo back in the day, waited for a full translation and then just forgot about the whole thing for 6 years even though the translation was already finished. I wasn't too hooked.

I regret it now because I fucking love RGD and wish I didn't get spoiled on major twists during those years.

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>>22043227
>>22043236
>>22043239

I appreciate your inputs, will try to put my back into it and hopefully will be able to discuss Ciconia with /jp/ when it gets out.

>> No.22043279

>>22043261
Pepe is a symbol of hatred and incels, apparently.

But Ryuukishi is so based >>22042671 he created Keropoyo so we could frogpost using him.

>> No.22043285

I think I'll read all of RGD again after the first episode of Ciconia. I'm sure they will be VERY related to each other thematically.

>> No.22043290

>>22042671
knife crimes are getting out of control and the globalists are failing to realize that forced "cultural enrichment" doesn't work like that.

>> No.22043298

Jesus christ these threads have gone waaaaaay down-hill

>> No.22043300

>>22043270
Same here, the translation took way too long. The first season didn't hook me in back then, but now I enjoy it immensely because I know the characters and it has such a lighthearted tone compared to the rest. I think R07 didn't do enough to make you care about the characters until season 2, but it's not really a problem on a reread.

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>>22043298
I see comments like this almost everywhere, every day

>> No.22043308

>>22043298
Ange has a hairy pussy and she's ashamed of how lewd it is.

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>>22043298

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This shit is too fucking real man

>> No.22043342

>>22043336
I wonder how Ryukishi is going to work child abuse into Ciconia. Is it true that he worked for Japanese CPS at one point? I heard that from somewhere

>> No.22043348

>>22043279
That isn't a pepe, it's an apu apustaja

>> No.22043350

>>22043336
Oh man, you couldn't pay me enough money to go back to school. College maybe, but school is literally the worst if you don't know how to play the game.

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I hope Ciconia expands on the overall lore and explains what her fucking deal was.

>> No.22043363

>>22043342
Is it child abuse if it's a bunch of lolees abusing other lolees?

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>>22042558
>>22042585
These two things are the reason I enjoyed the demo so fucking much. It might end up becoming my favorite WTC.

And I had literally zero expectations and no interest in the setting when it was first announced. How does Ryu do it?

>> No.22043389 [SPOILER] 
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Post underrated backgrounds.

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>>22032986
I like to think his stories always take place in the 80s or earlier because it guarantees that the female characters don't know what a razor is.

>> No.22043472

>>22043417
I refuse to believe Zel has a hairy pussy. She's so cute and nice, how can she possibly have such an obscene and sexy thing between her legs? She's not that kind of girl!

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>>22042979
I don't know if it's supposed to be her as a young woman (doubt it) or just a random expensive painting that just happens to be a reference to Higanbana.

>> No.22043579

>>22043417
Leo is literally the only character I know of that can wear a neon green blazer and look cool in it.

>> No.22043616

>>22043010
Leo is probably one of my favorite 07thExpansion characters. He's badass from the very beginning. Remember that scene where he grabs a dude from the collar, pulls him through the window and holds him there suspended 20 meters above the ground to make him talk? I also love how he always shows up out of nowhere when the villains least expect it and they are all like "what the fuck, who the hell is this guy?! What's he doing here?!"

>> No.22043652

>>22043616
I liked him at first but he started to bore me pretty quickly. But when he came back after shit hit the fan hard I couldn't help but cheer since I know he wouldn't fall for all the bullshit that was going on. I can't help but like him now.

>> No.22043884

>>22040226
You're cool, don't come to the mansion on October 4th.

>> No.22044139

>>22033748
Should have spent that budget on endless 9 magic instead of security guards.

>> No.22044564

>>22041498
She seems awfully suspicious to me. A good looking woman introduced literally in the first scene of the story but in passing, "apparently a secretary" but we don't know for real.

That's all the ingredients for her to be the final boss of Cico right there.

>> No.22044770

>>22044564
It's even more suspicious because that's literally how Takano is introduced in Higurashi. She first appears as a random spriteless nurse when Keiichi is being introduced to the villagers on his way to school, long before the night of Watanagashi. I think they call her Takano-san and leave it at that, along with some other randoms like the guy that is training to be a sniper.

I wonder if this new Takano will enjoy talking about creepy shit too.

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Why do rosatricers still exist?

>> No.22044840

>>22044833
When Mangagamer pushed the Shkannontrice theory they left enough plot-holes for the Rosatrice theory to exist too. You can't expect to blackmail a creator into desecrating their own work and not have it all making any sense. Kannon/George makes the most sense.

>> No.22044864

>>22044833
Because they're intelligent people with actual reading comprehension?

>> No.22044866

>>22043224
Why would you play his worst work and then skip the great one that is very likely to be relevant to Ciconia?

>> No.22044878

>>22044866
Higanbana isn't his worst work, you big goof. Ciconia is his worst work.

>> No.22044881

>>22044833
I swear Ryuukishi writes meme lines on purpose.

>> No.22044895

>>22044866
Higanbana is probably his worst, but I love it so much I sometimes like it more than Higurashi.

Are Ryukishi's weird untranslated console VNs and collaborations with Key any good? Because everything I've read so far has been fucking fantastic, Higanbana included.

>> No.22044913

>>22043224
>because it doesn't appeal too much for me.
You don't know this.

>> No.22044947

>>22044833
Rosatruthers

>> No.22044957 [DELETED] 
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Fuck: Mion, 410, Aya, Meryl and green-haired Nina expy from Ciconia.

Marry: Rena, Jessica, Yoko, Nina and negro princess from Ciconia.

Kill: Shion, Erika, Sumire, Miguel and autistic Asuka from Ciconia.

Humiliate: Satoko, Ange, Yukari, Zel and Canadian Shannon from Ciconia.

Rate my tastes and post yours.

>> No.22045051

>>22043112
Tbqh the RGD Season 1 troll was a lot more creative, there was literally a random chance of a bgm being replaced with that Naka song when the bgm changed, and if you wanted to listen to the real song you had to save and reload repeatedly until it played the real song.

>> No.22045104

What's with Alchemist aversion to blushing faces?

>> No.22045110

>>22044878
His worst work is probably something completely overlooked, like Okamikakushi.

>>22044895
Now personally, I actually like Higanbana more than RGD. It's good to be "short and sweet." And as a former bullied kid, it can really resonate with you.

>> No.22045149

>>22044881
he literally does desu, read in an interview the other day that he keeps an eye on fan theories and fan discussion and occasionally references the stuff later on

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I really love Ryukishi's metaphors.

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22045170

Is Marie referring to Yoko here? Nonomiya was in Marie's class, and the first chapter could easily take place a full year before the second.

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>>22045110
>former bullied kid

>> No.22045239

I like how Ryuukishi writes similar situations but give them a twist.

Shmion/Shkanon. People getting tossed off cliffs. Little girls being drowned in sewage water. Lolis with spiritual power who can see ghosts. Orphanages. Yakuza families. Little sister losing her onii-chan. When you analyze his works, you can find all sorts of connections.

>> No.22045263

Why do so many people read Higanbana and never realize that the characters are elementary schoolers? I mean, doesn't the narration make it painfully obvious several times?

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I always found this part creepy as fuck. It's like as soon as he remembered her, he was suddenly able to smell the fucking corpse rotting under the school that nobody else was able to notice because their senses were being manipulated to ignore her existence.

>> No.22045700

>>22045652
This guy is kinda like Keiichi if he stayed a nerd and didn't move to Hinamizawa after doing all that shit.

He even has the same dumb moments of defiance. The part where he foolishly refuses to give back the camera and then regrets it seconds later is similar to how Keiichi randomly said rude shit to Ooishi during their first meeting in Tatarigoroshi.

>> No.22045773

>>22045263
What do you mean?

>> No.22045848

>>22045773
I've seen many people finish the story thinking the characters were high schoolers. It's bizarre.

>> No.22045852

>>22045700
>This guy is kinda like Keiichi
Keiichi is a great person. This kid is a fucking petty prick and he deserved to die.

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>>22043389

>> No.22046543

>>22043564
Its lucifer you absolute dumbasses. It's just an Umineko reference.

>> No.22046584

>>22046543
It looks more like Higanbana. That skirt is longer and darker than Luci-ass-neechan's and her hair looks a bit different. Lucifer's forehead isn't that exposed.

>> No.22046593

>>22046543
>>22046584
Also, the person in the painting is flat-chested and doesn't have the Stake of Purgatory emblem on her sleeve.

>> No.22046623

>>22036858
this

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Shit story compared to Higurashi desu

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>>22036640
Miyao will be nearly killed and Jayden will go berserk out of despair.
>>22043579
Lupin III probably could

>> No.22047195

So what is the opinion on the MangaGamer releases of WTC 1-4 (Higurashi and Umineko)?

>> No.22047236

>>22047195
As far as what?

TL is better
Sprites are shit
Engine is good

>> No.22047254

>>22047195
Shit. SHIT!

>> No.22047260

>>22047062
>still no proper mvc4 with xmen

>> No.22047267

>>22047236
>sprites are shit
but they are the same as the og release, unless you mean that you don't like how they are upscaled

>> No.22047269

>>22047195
It's got some qol improvements, but other than that it's barely any different from the original. Just use the original sprites and enjoy.

>> No.22047290

>>22043417
Why are chibi shortstacks with big tits and hairy 40s bushes so sexy??

>> No.22047299

>>22047267
He means the new sprites they used. Many people ignore the original and use the MG ones, which are pretty shit overall and drop the ball on important characters.

Also, the original sprites are censored because they removed the naked Satoko one.

>> No.22047303

>>22044770
It's funny, I literally called out takano's nature as best girl the second she appeared.

I'd like to think that this time around, her and okonogi are just cameos to give otherwise not-super-pivotal characters a bit of familiarity, though.

>> No.22047306

>>22047195
>>22047195
I can't believe to this day nobody has made a patch for the original Japanese releases of Higurashi. The script is already fully in English and there's very little extra context that needs translation. They could even fix the MG typos and mistranslations when porting the text to the patch.

Why the hell has nobody done it yet? Shouldn't making a patch be much easier when the translation already exists?

>> No.22047307

>>22047299
If people enjoy the new ones over the old ones then where's the problem? You can chose which ones you see

>> No.22047355

>>22047307
The problem is that they don't even give a chance to the original ones, not realizing that they really grow on you. And instead use the new ones from the get go, some of which look decent, while others straight up ruin the character (like Takano's).

>> No.22047363

>>22047306
i think somebody on twitter was porting higurashi on onscripter-en? i remember reading about it

>> No.22047367

>>22047355
Times have changed granpa

>> No.22047405

>>22047363
I don't want a porn, all we need is for someone to make a patch like Witch Hunt did for Umineko back in the day. The text is already translated, they only need to make a patch for the Japanese version of Higurashi.

>> No.22047424

>>22047306
>>22047405
If it doesn't exist, then how have I played it from start to finish? It sure as hell wasn't the mangagamer release

>> No.22047430

>>22047405
the thing is that witch hunt's TL isn't as good as the revised tl of the mg release from what i heard? also fuck, it doesn't have the animated rain. totally ruins the original vision of r07 fuck em.

>> No.22047563

>>22047424
You played either the old or the new MG versions.

There is no other Higurashi translation besides those two. Only an old Onikakushi fan patch that was 100 times better than the official translation, but the project was discontinued when MG licensed Higurashi.

>> No.22047579

>>22047424
It must have been, as there are no other translations. The MG releases is censored, the translation is of questionable quality, has typos up the ass, has an ugly UI, removes the minigames, removes some extra short scenarios from the question arcs because of copyright, removes the Staff Room from the question arcs... It's a fucking mess.

I wish I knew how to make a patch, because that's all we need to have a perfect version of Higurashi. Just a patch with a cleaned up MG translation. The extra stuff could be easily translated because it's so short.

>> No.22047656

>>22047579
It's probably not that hard if you're willing to look into it and have the translation to hand, assuming the tools that worked for umineko will work for higurashi, which may or may not be the case.

>> No.22047852

the simplest way of playing wtc in the perfect version is learning japanese and reading the og releases or hou

>> No.22047920

>>22047656
I know nothing about programming and if I learned I'd fuck something up for sure.

I just want a perfect version of Higurashi that doesn't alter shit and simply translates the original game, like they did with Umineko, Higanbana and RGD.

>> No.22047930

>>22047579
>>22047920
Give it up and just learn Japanese. Seriously, nobody is autistic enough to want a perfect English version if what we have is "good enough" for the masses. You are better off learning Japanese so you don't have to jump through hoops anymore and just read the source material as intended.

>> No.22047941

>>22047930
This is what I'm thinking. I don't get why people get so gung-ho over good enough stuff.

>> No.22047969

>>22047941
You misunderstood me. "Good enough" is still shit compared to what it could've been. But nobody will make things right, so it's better to learn Japanese and not deal with crappy translations anymore.

>> No.22047986

>>22047969
It's never good enough for autists.

>> No.22047987

>>22047920
Onscripter code is easy as shit, it's easier than beginner level AHK. You can literally figure it out just by following the script along while you have the game open.

Just extract, edit, and repack.
Be the change you want to see.

>> No.22048013

>>22047920
What does MG's Higurashi alter other than the Satoko sprite and some of the bgm? Both of which are easily restored?

>> No.22048027

>>22043010
I'm sorry to burst your manly bubble, but that's factually wrong. If you had been in any ghetto, you'd know quite a few men sell themselves.

It goes along the setting and the image of being through tough times, but that shopkeeper is full of shit and Leo knows that.

>> No.22048042

>>22048027
That's crackheads though, though are a special case.

>> No.22048050

>>22048042
Must be nice to have lived a sheltered life

>> No.22048106

>>22043010
>based
on what?

>> No.22048116

>>22047987
The jp version of Higurashi isn't in ONscripter, so I'm not sure that'd be so easy.

I'd hazard a guess that there are tools available that would make it easier, but I also doubt the people who have them would just give them away, considering the development of PONscripter and all that

>>22048013
cut a bunch of stuff, according to >>22047579

>> No.22048137

>>22048050
It's also nice to be a native English speaker and not a fucking ESL monkey, but hey.

>> No.22048174

>>22047986
It's always good enough for brainlets.

>> No.22048185

>>22047987
If it's that easy, how come nobody has done it yet? Am I seriously the only one disgusted by how MG handled Higurashi and saddened by the lack of a proper translation patch?

I might end up doing it after all, if only for my own satisfaction. But it's bizarre that people are wasting time creating all sorts of soulless patches to change the graphics when the thing doesn't even have a proper translation yet and tons of stuff is removed from the original.

>> No.22048188

>>22048116
Sorry, typed Onscripter out of habit, but Nscripter is practically the same.

Here's a site dedicated to Nscripter tools and learning the super easy code.
http://nscripter.insani.org/about.html

Wouldnt it be better to just implement the stuff that was cut/changed in the new engine? Could even work together with 07th-mod

>> No.22048196

>>22047987
>Just extract, edit, and repack.
Don't you need to do some crazy shit to allow for foreign characters?

>> No.22048205

>>22048185
Nobody has done it because it'd be long, monotonous, and tedious work. That outweighs it being easy.

>> No.22048221

>>22047579
Also, the MG engine is quite crappy and the sprites flicker when they appear, which doesn't happen nearly as often in the original version.

Why the hell did they need to change the engine back then? And why is their new version on Steam just the shitty ass old version with the crappy engine with a slightly touched up translation and upscaled sprites?

Seriously, at one point they released one of the arcs with the replacement music from back then. They are literally using their awful old releases and "fixing" them, instead of throwing the whole thing in the trash and just selling us the damn original game with a simple translation patch.

>> No.22048231

>>22048196
Not really, just have to use two-byte latin characters instead of one-byte.

>> No.22048239

>>22048013
>easily restored
The sprite doesn't exist in the same quality as the others because they refused to touch it. And how do you put the sprite back where it was supposed to be when that scene is now associated with the regular towel sprite? Changing it would make her naked from the beginning of the scene, which is wrong too.

>> No.22048252

>>22048116
Does Ryuukishi still sell the old version of Higurashi or is it only Hou now? Because Hou isn't exactly the same thing, has different title screens, changes some of the music and apparently censors Satoko.

I like Hou, but only for the new stuff. It's certainly not a replacement for the original. But is it even sold anymore?

>> No.22048261

>>22048239
Upscale and edit the original sprite on your own. Make sure to save it as a separate sprite though and dont overwrite the other.
As for the scene, you'd have to go into the script and have it reference the new sprite where its needed.

>> No.22048287

>>22048205
>Nobody has done it because it'd be long, monotonous, and tedious work.
In that case, how come someone translated Saikoroshi-hen?

If just inserting the English script is such a time-consuming job, why did they bother doing it without proof-reading it? How come everything in Hou is machine translated, if apparently the hardest part is inserting the English script? Why spend so much time doing that without touching up the script to make it less... machine-translated? Any human being could do that easily, and it'd be nothing compared to the time it supposedly takes to put the script in the game.

Maybe it's not that hard after all? Because if that's the case, and we already have the translation from MG, it shouldn't be too hard to fix a couple of things and insert that script into the original game.

Please explain where I'm wrong.

>> No.22048316

>>22048261
I guess it could be possible, but the translation is still mediocre and a lot of content is missing. No way that stuff can be restored easily. And it'd still be a shitty awkward MG engine instead of the original, which felt much better.

>> No.22048329

>>22048106

>> No.22048439

>>22048287
Machine translated is different, its simple copy and paste work for the most part. Not to mention saikoroshi is short. Lack of proper editting is just the person who did it being lazy or being bad at english.

Dont get me wrong though, what youre wanting would be mostly copy and paste as well, but its the difference between copying and pasting the entirety of Higurashi one line at a time and doing what was pretty much a bulk translate command of a short chapter.

What you're wanting would be much more feasible if you could get multiple people together and split the workload. Instead of making changes in Nscripter, I'd recommend porting to Onscripter. Many improvements were made, natively supports single byte characters, and isn't windows only.

Extract the script from Nscripter.
Make the necessary changes in code to work with onscripter.
Replace the moonrunes with the MG translation.
Fix lines so they're probably fitted and don't cut off.
Make sure the translated lines are in the proper place as I doubt MG did a line by line translation. Something that was one line in JP may be two lines in english.
Translate parts that were cut from MG.

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>>22048252
>Does Ryuukishi still sell the old version of Higurashi or is it only Hou now?
Neither, they only sell the Steam version now. Same with Umineko
http://07th-expansion.net/hig_gensaku#shop
http://07th-expansion.net/umi_gensaku#shop

>> No.22048535

>>22048490
Seriously? Why? What a shame, I'll have to pirate it now because I don't want censored shit.

I wish I could just buy the original. Why would they make it unavailable even as a digital download? It doesn't cost them anything to make different versions of the same VN available, does it?

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This is the dumbest plot twist and I love it.

>> No.22048567

>>22048550
The mirror world is the worst part of Higanbana.

>> No.22048608

>>22048567
Are you kidding? The music is great, the idea of all the mirror worlds is very interesting, there is a Midori cameo, you get to see evil drunk Sakutaro and Marie learns that there's nothing wrong with her personality because a version of her with high self-esteem would be a complete cunt.

But yeah, it's comic relief for the most part.

>> No.22048616

>>22048567
>Spirit Mirror Natsuhi is an undignified whore who sucks Rudolf's cock behind her husband's back

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Why doesn't this kid get to become a youkai or a ghost? I liked him...

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