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Kanji practice sheet (A4 paper)

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Kanji practice sheet (US Letter paper)

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>>21104616
>>21104609
this is disgusting chinese paper

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>>21104607
https://youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8

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>>21104607

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>>21104609
So much wasted space; at least 3 more kanji per line could be fit there, plus 2 in the vertical.

From 12x9 to 14x12, or from 108 to 168 squares, a 55% increase. Every 2 sheets you'd be saving a third one.

God.

>>21104607
As many as 40 percent of boys and 25 percent of girls with persistent conduct problems display significant social-cognitive impairments. Some of these deficits include immature forms of thinking (such as egocentrism), failure to use verbal mediators to regulate his or her behavior, and cognitive distortions, such as interpreting a neutral event as an intentional hostile act. Children with ODD have difficulty controlling their emotions or behaviors. In fact, students with ODD have limited social knowledge that is based only on individual experiences, which shapes how they process information and solve problems cognitively.

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>>21104666
LOL

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>>21104609
>>21104616
Just buy a binder and a pack of 500 sheets of 1 cm graph paper, you'll have enough to last you for life.

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discord trannies and tripfags please put a bullet through your heads

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反応しないために，自分の行動や感覚に意識を向ける。

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>>21104725
i wish i could like this post

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just came across a 39 character sentence i didn't understand until i checked google translate and now the sentence makes complete sense given the context and my understanding of its subelements.

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>>21104626
>>21104663
>>21104695
https://www.amazon.com/books-Pakkuno-30S10-5X5-Kokuyo-Campus-Application/dp/B0012OTICE/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=kanji+notebook&qid=1554318563&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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>>21104780
the pleasure of being cummed inside

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people who say you can learn kanji just by reading words are only half-right. the brain has an interesting way of only learning what it needs to get by. its very possible to learn a lot of words and only store a vague outline of the shapes of those words in your memory - rather than each individual kanji itself and its components.

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>>21104815
Thanks, that's definitely it given the context.
Not sure if the handwriting is just that messy or I'm being dumb today.

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>>21104815
>>21104827
Is this some kind of weird troll or what am I missing here. 圣営?

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>>21104788
It's a beginner's trap. It teaches you how to distinguish between words in your Anki deck, rather than learning kanji. When you start it's pretty easy, doesn't take a genius to distinguish between 響く and 泳ぐ. And even when kanji start looking extremely similar you might not even notice because it's a unique compound. You can probably go for a while before realising that 待 and 得 are different characters.
Then as you add more and more you keep having to go back to take mental notes of distinguishing features, I honestly have any idea why someone would choose to do things that way.

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>>21104865
because they don't feel like doing kanji study and many people stay in a bubble where their skill is never pressured anyway so they don't care how good they really are

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shut up flashtard

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sometimes ur sempai is gay

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>>21104865
Whats the alternative?

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>>21104970
>Whats the alternative
i'm the guy he was replying to. read the post i just made fella, right above ya

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>>21104939
more:
0.97 (97%) - 13.25%
0.98 (98%) - 14.18%
0.99 (99%) - 13.67%
1.00 (100%) - 13.99% (from the last post, for reference)
WTF

this thing is definitely broken

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so what's tripfag kun's method of learning kanji?

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>>21105004
>beautiful hanzi ruined with an interspersing of diarrhea symbols

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>>21105055
why? i'm just stating the facts i rarely have any problems confusing kanji and what those people are saying does not apply to me despite only learning kanji from vocab

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>>21105007
>because I can't see anything resembling 営 in there
Are you for real dude? It's in there. And absolutely none of the components of 済 are in there. Note the triple stroke on the top, and the horizontal stroke has "wings" on it, so you're not looking at 文 as the top half of the character. And the bottom is closed pretty well, so you definitely don't have 月 in the bottom part.

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>>21104780
略字 strike again

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>>21105068
OK, I see it now.

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>>21105087
nope, don't confuse any of those, at least the ones that i know. i do know the radicals cause i did the deck for that but i didn't practice writing them at all, still quite aware of them so a lot of those look distinct enough for me

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>>21105083
whats ur issue

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>>21105087
u forgot the most important one

は and が

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>>21105095
Not understanding if もん actually means something.

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>>21105102
source?

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>>21105158
I guarantee you're much slower and mistake-prone because you don't do 空書. Typical fucking zoomer.

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Handwriting also facilitates reading when you don't know a word. Being able to rapidly identify the number of strokes means you can look shit up in a paper dictionary. Or you can more easily use handwriting recognition to look it up in an electronic dictionary.

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stop bein rude

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>>21105173
yes!! i didn't start till my vocab was over 10,000 and i still got lots of value from it, i feel really secure in my kanji knowledge now

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>>21105233
Good to know. It's too late for me tonight, I'll lookup for a deck tomorrow. What deck did you use?

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cuz u can easily just breeze by it and never read it right thus never knowing japanese

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>>21105004
https://vocaroo.com/i/s13MFc941RtJ

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>>21105080
How do you tell the simplified 国 apart from 口?

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>>21105300
because if you're writing abbreviated characters then your 口 is going to look like this

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>>21105300
Marie is 国王妃 because obvious reasons
You are 口王妃 because obvious reasons

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Hello what are you guys mad about today?

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>>21105292
that was a 6 and a half minute page read and i listened to it all

pretty fuckin legit tho i laughed a few times along the way but it was the good kind of laugh good job

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>>21105415
I did that when I was taking classes. That’s how I got so fucking good, even 12 years later with virtually no practice I can dissect any character and remember how it’s written after only seeing it a few times. Just need to air-write it to remember.

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>>21105292
I like that he uses 欧羅巴 which I definitely didn't just look up and then the katakana in the next sentence

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>>21105434
>he didn’t have formal education
Laughing at you bro.

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>>21105480
that's nice and all but do you know japanese?

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>>21105480
i wonder what kinda scholarship it was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB3ZlSpoGPY

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>>21105506
この世に「愛」という物は最初から存在していませんでした。ここは残念ながら地獄です。

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how do you read if you don't know any words

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>>21105619
Select a card in the browser and do CTRL-SHIFT-i or click that info button at the top

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>>21105649
*https://apps.ankiweb.net/docs/manual.html#searching

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>>21105649
>>21105662
>>21105674
Thanks, filtering for high lapses and low ease or leech tag seems to do the trick.

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really steve? what the fuck dude.

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>>21105734
i literally said if u got all the words right i wouldnt give u any shit about how u sounded

shut up flashtard

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>>21105739
nvm finally found the option to disable spaces and readings

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>>21105739
いろいろな国（こく）から
Shouldn't that be くに when it's a standalone word? It's in the 7th line.

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i just skimmed some of the mini stories on lingq and they're a lot easier to read than the vn i'm reading right now (flyable heart).

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>>21105797
because they are all unnatural textbook stories

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>>21105797
Have you tried reading any of the children's stories available on Aozora Bunko? Some of them, like the Japanese translation for Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (アリスはふしぎの国で) are quite easy to read.

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>>21105734
>I don't want people to say mean things about my pronunciation, mommy!
>proceeds to spend all his free time shittalking people for their (lack of) knowledge at trivia show kanji
Mentally ill.

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>>21105890
>And I bet you
How about instead of making "bets" you address the point?
You don't wanna show your weaknesses while you feast on others'. Pathetic.

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if you ever wanted an example of why tripfags have historically been shunned on 4chan this thread would be exhibit fucking A

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>>21105969
4chan was in fact way better before anonymous legion became the standard

>>21105963
in some sense reading is a much better test but nobody has actually proposed a workable reading test so it's mostly just people bullshitting so as to avoid any sort of evaluation of any kind

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>>21105963
idk dude if u cutting pieces out of anime or whatever is effective hopefully u can show us something soon

the watching anime part is good but u should prolly be doing it with english subs especially cuz maybe u of all people wouldnt be distracted by them and still be listening in japanese first and foremost

as for ur accent seriously no 1 cares how bad u sound the only reason i wanted u 2 vocaroo a page was to see if u can read and follow proper flow

i didnt laugh at the other guy who did a pretty good job reading all the words and that guy coulda been u

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tripfags and tripfag enablers are pathetic

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>>21105963
>I don't care about speaking and I don't why everyone here does.
No, you are just scared of being put in a position of vulnerability because you're a psychopath and assumes everyone else has the same neurotic behavior as you do. All blinded by a SERIOUS egotistical barrier your brain has developed unbeknown to you, that tries to rationalizes things to avoid your panties from getting sweaty, cause not even your brain wants to deal with you going apeshit anymore.

Also you're clearly ESL, can you even speak English or is that a "useless skill" as well?

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>>21106009
totally dude u completely lose ur grounding and sorta have no bearings and have to actually manually think about how to do things at the start its the worst

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>>21105963
>I wasn't shittalking anyone
>Okay I was, but...
So if other people do it too it's okay? Also, that's not a healthy way of fostering competitiveness, which goes directly against your first post on this thread so you're a hypocrite in that regard too. And, you were talking shit, or at least making fun of two people's Japanese sentences that weren't even in response to you; you went out of your way to talk shit to them.
>I mainly enjoy competing with people on my level which is why I have asked people who seemingly have a high level to join.
I guess that depends on what you mean by "seemingly", but there are multiple examples where you've asked or "implored" people to do the kanji battle simply because they dissented from something you said.

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>>21106078
the funny thing is that noone out of the like 20 people who joined the discord has actually beat him once [except me]

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>>21106078
I guess ankidrones officially win the age old debate.
Reading is for losers.

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>>21106085
guaranteed he's read more than you have

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>>21106078
>woah, dekinai can't actually best someone who studies? that's craaazzzyyyy

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vocaroo is pretty solid tho u can ascertain many things just from how someone reads

and i dont mean shallow things like shitting on them cuz they are obviously a non japanese trying to read japanese out loud

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>>21106106
>This thread is about knowing Japanese.
japanese threads in /jp/ have been about the consumption of japanese media for about a million years, which is in fact a one way street. what do you have to say that japanese people would possibly want to hear.

>>21106108
nobody wants to put their gay voice onto the internet.

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>>21106120
because after the first translation it would be a worthless test. you'd have to submit it anonymously. how? someones email? whats the fuckin point in that case cause we're all anonymous anyway so it doesnt prove anything

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>>21106092
>It's weird honestly. I assumed there would be at least one person in this thread at a higher level than me.
Post your J-CAT.

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>>21106154
>people would stop shitposting if you flooded the thread with (...) porn as it would make the thread rather unusable but it's not a real achievement.
I've actually done that before. It was a pretty good DJT. Should I do it again?

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>>21106126
Can you read this? 卑猥女子団団長
I can't, since I haven't taken the kanji quiz.

So "eunuch trip flashtard" it is.

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>>21106092
>The fact that I think it's alright to shittalk certain people is obvious.
That you care way more about being better than others than encouraging them to learn Japanese is too.
>That doesn't change the fact that I want people to learn Japanese
Even the people you talk shit to? Even the RTKers? Even the people who post bad Japanese? Do you think talking shit to them is encouraging them to get better at Japanese? If you genuinely care about people getting better at Japanese, which maybe you do to some extent, and I mean this in as seriously as I can, you're doing an absolutely horrible job at showing it. You can't expect to put on a display of character as you have in these past few threads and expect people to believe you when you say you want, for unselfish reasons, other people to learn Japanese. Would you say that's fair given that you've talked shit at least three times much as you've said "yeah guys, we can do it!" ? Also, a digression, but is English your first language? I'm just curious.

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>>21106164
i originally proposed E-J translation with everyone choosing their own piece of media because i knew for a fact that dumb faggots would use this as an excuse to not participate.

i can also determine the media to be translated randomly if you insist on it.

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>>21106179
>than encouraging them to learn Japanese is too.
nobody is fucking encouraged to learn japanese by this thread. if anything "git gud and beat me" is more encouraging than 90% of this this thread, which is generic shitposting.

>yeah guys, we can do it
literally nobody has ever fucking said this in DJT lmao

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>>21106215
>I don't remember there being so much drama in it.
it's because some new tripfag showed up and won't stop attentionwhoring

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>when you realize that Jamal is white

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>>21106242
and that's a good thing

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>>21106251
it's really amazing that all someone has to do is call the thread out on being full of shitters who dispenses advice and shit on others while not knowing jack shit and the whole thread morphs into defense mode where DJT mentally morphs into some sort of helpful thread where everyone helps each other out and encourages each other to learn japanese rather than the shitposting cesspit that it actually is

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>>21106252
>about the way newcomers are treated
you misunderstood everything

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>>21106240
rate my japanese conversation skills

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>>21106292
i dont watch enough anime to read sol shit properly i have to say

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>>21106296
Definitely. You should probably just read some porn instead. Better use of your time AND the feds won't come busting into your room.

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>>21106317
better than matts convos

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>>21106319
gotta tip my hat to thjat lmao

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>>21106320
can you please just stop attention-seeking for 5 minutes thanks

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>>21106320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIp6uabLcj8#t=26

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>>21106220
no1 ever thought it was the being able to read the words that was retarded

it was the very cringy thought of u literally hunched over ur keyboard trying to be ichiban hayai lmao

shut up flashtard

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>>21106337
so pick another test

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Before you go could you kindly post a kanji grid trip friend?

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>>21106343
reddit tier is not being able to back up your claims and crying when someone hurts your feelings

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>>21106352
>implying he ever learned how to speak english
like with kanji, he primarily reads and memorizes rather than actually implements

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>>21106362
Who said anything about accent?

Shitting your pants, girl voice flashtard?

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>>21106358
this thread pretends to be hot shit all the time while engaging in nonstop shitposting and shitting on everyone and everything. and then suddenly when some gay tripfag comes in everybody says, "no, we don't do that, actually, we're all very humble about our japanese knowledge. this is a thread where we helpfully encourage each other to learn japanese." then they use this ideal of a DJT thread that doesn't and has never existed to bash the tripfag for not living up to the thread's ideals.

it's honestly impressive how much mental gymnastics some people are capable of.

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>>21106362
>>/jp/thread/S19663341#p19664297

>let's try this again
>https://vocaroo.com/?upload
>record yourself and put it up
>the quest is not proper pronunciation, it is the ability to read the text clearly, including the words that don't have furigana (which are all very basic)
>if you cannot do this then you are not credentialed enough to have an opinion on what people are beginners

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>>21106384
hiragana*

i have committed grave sins against our japanese overlords and now must commit seppeku

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>>21106372
i mean were all telling flashtard dude he doesnt know japanese and hes like no i know i dont but u know what i do know a shitload of words in isolation lol 1v1 me

shits boring already his gimmicks run its course

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>>21106358
This thread has never been about inviting people to Discord and making tripfag rankings.

So fuck off.

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>>21106373
>>21106370
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1deme5oWKsd

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lol good show mate

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>>21106381
>he actually added 祠
the absolute madman

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>>21106382
nobody said anything about the quiz what the fuck are you on about
>>21106384
if you were just typing out the entire thing in hiragana and submitting it it would be fine

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>>21106402
vocaroo doesn't require an account and he can just put his voice through a voice changer if he doesn't want to be doxxed

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flashtard speaking in 3rd person lmao

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>>21106410
i agree that using a voice changer would be like the bare fucking minimum i'd do before participating. but again, is this materially different from turning the whole thing into kana?

>>21106408
he was probably fooled into thinking that people in this thread knew what they were doing when he was a beginner, before realizing eventually that everyone was full of shit.

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>>21106416
"everyone in DJT thinks the thread should just be me shitposting 24 hours a day and everybody who doesn't is the tripfag"

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>>21106418
>but again, is this materially different from turning the whole thing into kana?
yeah. if you can't read 祠 but are otherwise nativelike in terms of accent then you get a pass.

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>>21106422
i don't see how testing people's pronunciation is any better a test of reading ability than vocab whoring.

like we could, theoretically, right now, pull the most recent news article off a japanese newspaper and see if people could read it (and i fucking promise you i do not give a shit about that story to demand a free translation of it). that's literally a test of reading.

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>>21106381
>已, 帥, 后, 陳, 哥, 剛
>weak
what the actual fuck my dude

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>>21106436
post yours

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>>21106434
ahem

>the quest is not proper pronunciation

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>>21106444
that was never part of the test

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>>21106459
why is it superior to test for a combination of accent production and reading comprehension than just reading comprehension when everybody seems to claim that the REAL skill that needs to be tested for is reading comprehension

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>>21106456
>so what does it mean if "if you can't read 祠 but are otherwise nativelike in terms of accent then you get a pass" as someone said earlier
You don't even know English.

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>>21106470
it's obfuscatory bullshit designed to test for accent instead of reading comprehension.

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>>21106466
because the spoken language is the "actual" language and if you can function in it like a 12 year old then you automatically know the language more than someone who can read philosophical text written in archaic text but can't hold a conversation for two minutes to save their life

not that reading out loud is a good indicator of conversational ability but it's something

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>>21106474
Nope. People have posted recordings with shitty accents before and gotten a pass. You're insisting that it's testing something that it's not testing based on its surface level qualities. That's no better than me claiming that your quiz test typing ability or comfort with answering flashcards. Stop being disingenuous.

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>>21106478
>You're insisting that it's testing something
i'm insisting that it's testing something because the person who proposed the test announced in broad daylight that you get points for that thing.

>That's no better than me claiming that your quiz test typing ability
since it's a time attack, it does, in fact, test for typing ability and is poor for that reason.

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>>21106487
apparently it was impossible for stephen hawking to have ever known a language

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>>21106501
"bonus points" are points like another. if i gave you a math test and then gave you bonus points for being pretty, to the point where being extremely beautiful could help make up for missing a few problems, this would be a test of combined math and prettiness, not a test of math.

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>>21106445
i can tell if u know what ur reading just by listening to u

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>>21106506
points like any other*

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>>21106506
I see no issue with a test of language ability giving bonus points for having good language ability, unlike a test of numeric ability giving bonus points for having pretty shapes on it. Bonus points are limited in applicability and won't cover up an inability to function, all they do is differentiate two people who have similar skill levels in what's being tested but are otherwise very different in aptitude.

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>>21106494
can u prove stephen hawking knew anything ever and wasnt just a mindless vegetable in a fancy wheelchair which a bunch of non retards (arguably still retarded if they came up with "his" crackpot theories) ghostwriting for him lmao

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>>21106519
Stephen Hawking is one of the only people to have ever even begun to glimpse at the union between special relativity and quantum mechanics so yeah he did know things. Also he did that before he became a vegetable.

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>>21106518
sure. i agree that it's not a poor test of japanese. i'm asking why if we wanted to test for reading comprehension exactly, why it's superior to simple kana production (or even translation!) which doesn't require people to use vocaroo.

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>>21106523
so ur saying he still knew things before he became a cripple

can u prove it ?

how do u know it wasnt the deep state just spinning the narrative and using him as a puppet lmao

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>>21106528
Nothing wrong with kana production of an entire text. Translation gets you into arguments about English semantics. Reading comprehension is impossible to test directly.

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consider this have u ever used the scientific method urself on hawkings "findings"

think about it before u handwave what u were force fed to believe back at me

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>>21106421
look you either disagree with the flashtard existing in these threads or youre not any better than him and should therefore be treated as the same entity

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>>21106436
Maybe these were in compound words and he missed these so that particular kanji went down? This happens sometimes in my deck too.

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>>21106538
>Nothing wrong with kana production of an entire text.
Then I think that should be a practically superior test of pure reading comprehension ability than reading a text out loud.

>Translation gets you into arguments about English semantics
I would expect translations to be literally graded on 1. you didn't literally misparse the Japanese and 2. you didn't leave anything out, style and flow being chucked out the window since the test is for comprehension rather than translation. Sure, yes, people could argue over this, but you could argue over the results of any test, and English semantics is more firmly within the wheelhouse of most people in this thread than how native a pronunciation is.

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>>21106554
you're far more shit than the flashtard or really, anyone else in this entire thread.

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>>21106569
Nah, reading out loud is better for a public community because then multiple people can answer without you worrying about them plagiarizing each other. Plus typing stuff out is prone to people getting made fun of for making typos, whereas with speech, if you say the wrong thing it's immediately obvious and you can stumble and correct it. No reasonable person would take points off for that. People stumble reading out loud in their native languages too, unless they're trained in it.

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How long does it take to get used to Japanese grammatical constructions? Six months? A year? Two years? I often find myself going through sentences over and over, even while reading children's books, just because I find it somewhat difficult to spot the subject, direct, and indirect object in a sentence.

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only on djt do they pussy out of reading out loud cuz its "not the focus" lmfao

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>>21106604
reading vns 6 hours a day, about a month or two

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>>21106604
>subject, direct, and indirect object

subject and direct object should be obvious dude lol that's what the first particles you learn are and they are very straightforward

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rate my translation of the last 1500 characters of edogawa rampos 日記帳 (1922 - https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/001779/files/57190_58247.html translation starts from 私はずっと以前)

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>>21106628
"watashi wa gei" neither helps people with Japanese nor demonstrates any ability of Japanese. Your JCAT score isn't even worth discussing. Your ability to "help people" by dispensing the same canned advice isn't proof of Japanese knowledge.

Maybe your shitty vocaroos demonstrate that you're some sort of bona fide fuckin Japanese expert, though. I wouldn't know.

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u can see whatever u want to see it doesnt matter to me

i just hope u can do what u wanna do in life and dont regret a single thing

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jamal btfo again

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that doesnt work either on me

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>>21106614
>all u need to have a sentence in japanese is a verb
t. tae kim pro

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>>21106645
>Your JCAT score isn't even worth discussing.
What score did he get?

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you're doing that thing autists do when they get btfo and try to come out on top saying stupid shit like just be happy bro

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>>21106610
I got bored after reading to the end of page 1 in English but didn't have anything except nits.

Also I'm not sure that your translation of それにしても、今の世にかくも古風な恋があるものでしょうか is right, but since I'm not 100% sure what it's trying to say myself this could just be a failure on my part.

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ts the truth tho

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>>21106689
"perfect 400 on jcat"

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>>21106695
sasuga

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>>21106689
<-

>>21106692
oh am i wouldnt know

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>>21106701
okay this is epic

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>>21106701
>stealing my jcat score and scribbling all over it

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>>21106610
ur that college fag right lol

gotta imagine those anti college fags are startin to sweat seeing what can happen if u go to school

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106718
i fuckin wear it better dude can u really hate me

[Anonymous No.]

>ur
>lol
opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.]

oh no that 1 guy discarded me so hard he had to post about it lol

[Anonymous No.]

jamal gives genuinely good advice. it would do you a lot of good to keep what he says in the back of your mind. getting into his mindset has helped me quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106743
why don't you produce some sort of demonstration of your skills

[Anonymous No.]

why dont u produce ur ass so i can fuck it faget

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106743
so I can become a japanese 達人 like you, him and every other tard who watches eng subbed anime right

[Anonymous No.]

How would you say "i'm going to ___" instead of "I go to ____"? Or are they the same in Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106743
You mean he repeats shit other people post

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106771
HAHAHAHA FUCKING BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106753
tards watch eng subbed anime

but so do non tards

its a mixed bag dude

>>21106757
コンビニいくよ

コンビニにいきます

if u dont believe me check google translate

>>21106771

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106777
Sort of, but in English they have differences. For example if I say "I go to school" as in a general sense compared to "i'm going to school" as in an action you're doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106771
You are assuming he edited his own score in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106786
>heh...heh.. um.. all.. all according to keikaku..

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106757
Uhhhh, those are the same or different in english depending on the context. "I'm going to school" can mean "I am a student" or "I am heading to school right now". "I go to school" can pretty much only mean "I am a student".

I wouldn't worry about this stuff just get more input.

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>>21106771
i based the score interpretation on my actual jcat btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106792
yah it kinda has been for the last like 20 mins lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106800
this is a good post desu u should couple it with ur discord snippet from earlier so ppl can get an idea of what the jcat 300 club is like

i dont mean that w. any kind of irony or joke or saying ur bad kinda thing btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106727
yea im a 4th year japanese studies student

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106806
Yeah but isn't that "I go" and not "i'm going", or is it the same thing? That's what is confusing me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106771
Close

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106816
You should go on that flashtard chat and beat him in his game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106818
it's the exact equivalent of english "going"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106800
didnt mean to fully dox myself LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106823
im already in the chat and we're about the same level in terms of vocab quizzing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106827
no1 woulda cared till u decided to point it out retard

smfh time to go to the archives boys this boys gettin some pizzas lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106834
im a vegan so pls no pizza

[Anonymous No.]

Why aren't you going to Asia with your newly acquired understand of Japanese and slaying Asian poon while streaming it on twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

pussy actually stinks dude

solid female companionship where she loves me enough to cook for me clean up after me and take care of me cuz shes a good woman now thats the shit i do like

[Anonymous No.]

How the FUCK do I get good and learn to read all the Hiragana that is in between and at the end of Kanji's? It's not always particles or grammar, I don't even know what to look up sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

so 胆 is gall bladder, 肝 is liver, but both of them are read as きも and both of them also mean courage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106839
don't worry I won't get pepperoni
Do you want anything to drink with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106877
pizzas have cheese i cant eat cheese im sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106869
i didnt take the jcat and i really dont have any interest in doing so because as mattvsjapan has said its a pretty bunk test lol

[Anonymous No.]

I'M STILL BAD AT READING KATAKANA JESUS CHRIST

[Anonymous No.]

This textbook im using used the word 泣いてしまいました to mean "I was crying" and i'm just looking at this shit like wtf is that right? I know 泣いていました would be right but how tf do you get 泣いてしまいました???

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106893
i have the cure for u

[Anonymous No.]

頭痛だね

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106693
>Also I'm not sure that your translation of それにしても、今の世にかくも古風な恋があるものでしょうか is right, but since I'm not 100% sure what it's trying to say myself this could just be a failure on my part.
i read it as him trying to provide some kind of excuse for himself to not believe it to be true, it ties in with the "if it's really true, it would be awful" vibe. but yes, im not 100% sure about this myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106876
"guts" can mean intestines or courage in English. The best way to deal with new homophones is to think of similar English versions

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106893
just ignored that problem and it will fix itself easily

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106890
So, as said before, you've pussied out of literally pretty much every possible evaluation known to man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106918
but i got a 400

[Anonymous No.]

tell u what can we get georges wife on the line

ill get vetted in a fuckin hurry

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106902
Why is the font so SHIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106918
ok u can cross off 400 on jcat from here >>21106628

i await ur next move

[Anonymous No.]

Meh, you're safe. That's an extremely common name. Just don't go around posting your birthdate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106941
lol why don't you go on the flashtard quiz and read some words pussy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106936
thats classic computer text whats ur issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106950
cuz i dont wanna ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106910
I think in the example you provide the "courage" meaning is derived from the "intestines" meaning.

I'm honestly thinking the reason the internal organs have the same pronunciation is because the virgin unsophisticated 和人 didn't think much about internal organs and their various uses, while the chad Chinese invented separate characters for each (which have very different pronunciations).

[Anonymous No.]

how do you even read nip names? they make no sense. they use the kanji for looks but the reading is completely different? i don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27
pussyじゃん

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/CallMePala/status/1113554591130554369
>**** retweeted this
why do ajatters constantly make these social media posts sucking themselves off over how profound they are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106964
>but the reading is completely different?
i don't know? why do you talk like a california girl? like, can you stop uptalking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106964
You guess, wait until they are properly introduced, sigh, and say to yourself "why even bother".

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106964
sometimes they make a lot of sense other times u have that class roster (DONt fUCkin Post IT)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106941
"watashi wa gei" neither helps people with Japanese nor demonstrates any ability of Japanese. Your ability to "help people" by dispensing the same canned advice isn't proof of Japanese knowledge.

Maybe your shitty vocaroos demonstrate that you're some sort of bona fide fuckin Japanese expert, though. I wouldn't know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106604
In order to understand Japanese sentence structure, you need to understand three things, how they interact, and what that means for grammatical constructions.

1) Japanese is a "topic-comment" language, not a "subject-predicate" language. New information is conveyed by how the entire statement relates to the topic. Not how the verb/adjective/direct object relate to the subject.

2) Japanese places descriptive things to the left. Something that falls on the right side of a phrase is less likely to be a description and more likely to be new information.

3) Japanese is a pro-drop language. It prefers to leave things entirely unstated unless they are important for understanding or they are being emphasized/stressed.

These are all very intuitive if you understand Japanese well enough, as well as how they interact, and also what that means for the general "DNA" Japanese uses for grammatical constructions.

If you want to attempt to understand any of this consciously, you need to understand how and why information is conveyed through language. What the "game" of communication is like.

It's a terrible idea to try to understand this consciously. You really SHOULD subscribe to "don't think, feel". But if you insist on thinking, you've asked in the right place, because I just so happen to be here!

[Anonymous No.]

私はらいおんきんぐ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106971
what's your problem with california girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106604
>>21106983

Now, let's look at a completely different English story. First sentence, again.

>In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit.

This is from The Hobbit.

What do we see here?

> we are introduced to the existence of a particular hole in the ground
> we are introduced to the existence of a particular hobbit
> we are introduced to the fact that this hobbit lives in this hole

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106604
>>21106983
>>21106988
>>21106996
This is where those three things from the beginning come back.

1) Japanese is a "topic-comment" language.
Meaning of 1) The subject is not always "old" information. The subject is, in fact, sometimes the thing that the writer/speaker is trying to teach you about.

2) Descriptive things tend to be towards the left.
Meaning of 2) The further right something is in the sentence, structure-wise, the more likely it is that the author is trying to teach it to you.

3) Pro-drop.
Meaning of 3) If something is said at all, and they didn't need to say it, there's a good chance it's important.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm guessing it's loosely related to regional dialect variations in pre-literacy Japan and what the characters sounded like in middle Chinese when they started to get imported. You'd probably have civil servants in various areas writing down surnames for the first time in history by trying to basically make a Chinese transliteration. So the original pronunciation might remain but attached to that strange Chinese-written name. From there you might have local variation and experimentation. But because of the importance of names, the pronunciation probably remained fairly static, especially after the creation of Kana. So while the language changed, names stayed, and were fixed to Chinese characters at some point in time in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106869
82+50+57+65=254

[Anonymous No.]

I can't wait to learn Japanese for years so I can read Japanese wank material that will use for only 5 mins or so!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106983
>>21106988
>>21106996
>>21107008
fuck you and your reddit spacing. you could probably do that whole thing in 2 messages if you didn't use that meme spacing. also didn't read and you're a fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107010
The unedited score was already posted

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just learning for fun

[Anonymous No.]

this is it. the worst thread in djt history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107025
post the class roster pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107018
that's not reddit spacing man, reddit doesn't allow stuff like this
>> we are introduced to the existence of a dark cloudiness
>> we are given a description of it, to the left of it
>> we are told what it is doing
or this
>>時にその昏い天に向かい、さらに漆黒の雲海から青白い稲光が駆け上がる。
>I see. Interesting.
those would both each be a single line

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106983
>that post made him write for an hour
Senpai...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107029
i don't have it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107008
well u definitely pinged me at the right part of ur post i read the line above it and the line the you was on and i basically got the gist of the other 3000 words from that and the 2 other posts without having 2 read them

is this the power of context lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107037
Actually it only took like twenty minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

kek

KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106983
>>21106988
>>21106996
>>21107008
too ugly; didn't read

[Anonymous No.]

im actually gonna read the rest of ur long ass posts in a second when my hot pocket is ready just cuz of the shoutout at the end

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106983
>>21106988
>>21106996
>>21107008
shittoposuto no koto domo arigato

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107029

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107074
OH NO NO

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106983
>>21106988
>>21106996
>>21107008
TL;DR?
Just kidding theses are good posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107074
bit going on here

[Anonymous No.]

Anon gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark blackface. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Jamal.

[Anonymous No.]

.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

イクぅ！！

[Anonymous No.]

わたしは
oh forget it this thread is too shit even for gayposting
screw you guys i'm leaving

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107109
spotted the tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107109
Tfw Jamal is leaving us to the sharks
His arrival marked the end of DJT, and his departure signified the death of DJT.

[Anonymous No.]

郵便局でセックスしました

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107066
instead of "no koto" try "shite kurete"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107109
All it took was one flashcard busting your nuts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106610
You forgot to translate
さればといって、私はなき弟のやり方を少しだって責める気はありません。それどころか、私は、彼のこの一種異様な性癖を世にもいとしく思うのです。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107126
that wasnt me dude i got my hotpocket its time to read some posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107136
All is saved!
>>21107142
Anki is the parasite worm that controls Dekinai-chan from within.

[Anonymous No.]

i thought it was copypasta, did anon actually write that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107008
>mike shinoda

i ended up having to read all 4 of ur posts basically in their entirety just to find the best part that was hidden from my originally limited view

i appreciate that part but idk this is a pretty rough draft for a thing that i think was good that u were getting at but i think needs some work to be truly good

the concept is there tho and i like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106002
mannn you’re bullshitting so hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107175
>anything that takes more than 140 characters exceeds my zoomer brain capacity and must be some autistic trolling copypasta
This is why 4chan is shit

[Anonymous No.]

btw if u crack open a work and it starts with まるで u should already realize ur being thrust into the moment (before u got to ur whole direct object spiel)

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah I was just glossing over that since I wanted to delete it later to simplify things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107182
this is why you should go back to a forum more suited to you, such as reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107182
get on with the times, grandpa, twitter allows 280 characters nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>21105994
>Why isn't the competitive quiz workable though? From what I have seen how well people do perfectly corresponds to their relative Japanese level.
>People are just afraid of doing it because they know they suck
personally i love doing it but N1 and above ususally kicks my butt. N2 i can get 90% or higher

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107189
280 character limit is the worst thing to ever happpen maybe in the history of humanity

[Anonymous No.]

>>21105969
wtf is a tripfag that word sounds idiotic, like most of the lingo you losers use on here

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107134
o fuck so i did. dunno how i managed that i had the whole thing copied out in word and did it paragraph by paragraph

[Anonymous No.]

The absolute ultimate test of Japanese proficiency:
Do you know which of these 凹凸 凸凹 is でこぼこ and which is おうとつ？

[Anonymous No.]

凸 (￣д￣) 凸

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107218
who cares I can just mouseover it with rikaikun extension

[Anonymous No.]

reasons i hate zoomers -----> >>21107226

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107226
such talent

[Anonymous No.]

obviously just enable rikaikun extension and then mouseover her omanko lol

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a vacuum sucking up nihongo left and right

[Anonymous No.]

i feel drained after reading for 90 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107236
we'll go to a japanese restaurant and when the waiter asks me if I want beef or chicken I will say "bifu kudasai". That should be enough to make her pantsu wet

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107251

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107251
you're just a piece of furniture getting in my way

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107254
某は生牛肉を頂戴でござる

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107258
hihihihihi

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107249
stop reading on a glaring eye destroying lcd then

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK China and FUCK Kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107264
Noob

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107258
>>21107262

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107255

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107271
bro no

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107271
u are fucked up dude

[Anonymous No.]

quiz retards been gone for hours dude wtf no im actually leaving now fuCK this first that sicko now this guy im oUTta here

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107280
the matt debate is over. he scored extremely high on the j-cat. he has multiple clips demonstrating his japanese proficiency. there's nothing left. this guy made it and we're all playing catch up

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107285
still fixable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtxtSFO6br8

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107342
you mean your glorified wanikani cards

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any non-trash Chinese card sets?
And how the fuck do I effectively use Anki?

[Anonymous No.]

go ask in dct

[Anonymous No.]

私自身の手でジャマルの穢らわしい口を引き裂いてやろう！

[Anonymous No.]

fuk i was listening to music it's actually やる

[Anonymous No.]

我慢汁はいつも甘い味がします

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107218
i got them right what do i win

[Anonymous No.]

おにいちゃん

おはなみいこう

テンションあげあげでいこう

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107218
this is easy if you have おでこフェチ like me

[Anonymous No.]

Just did anki for the first time I did 50 words of 2k/6k, im exhausted and feel good i did that idk if i actually remember all the words but ill see during my first time review idk if this post is good just wanted to write my experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107432
sounds like another way to say that you're a lolicon sicko

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107355
There's no point in learning to read Chinese if you can already read Japanese.
Just watch shitty Taiwanese/Singaporean dramas and stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106971
he's using it correctly though. are you ESL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107463
You might eventually get tired of having to go through 50 new words a day, and might want to cut it down to 30 or 20 if you plan on doing it for a year or so.
Also, I suggest you to not ignore reading up on grammar and occasionally reading random manga or children's books.

[Anonymous No.]

>セフレ

So I’ve seen this term cropping up in my recent hentai watching,I know it’s short for sex friend,but I’m curious as to what it really means. Is it like friends with benefits,or more like a bootycall in English? I’m posting this chart to try and help,because I usually think of fwb as being devoid of commitment but a bootycall is just sex.

[Anonymous No.]

Wew wew, finished my reps to cement that nihongo. Time for some unsubbed JAV!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21106320
you gonna do this again in the morning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107224
可愛っ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107603
just join whenever its a 24/7 discord u can just join and do the quiz by yourself if you like

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107539
not correcting his english. i'm calling him a fag and telling him he needs to talk like a man

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107609
aw don’t mind if i do

[Anonymous No.]

「DJT」の日常はなくて

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107637
Except he's not talking like a california girl, it's a speech pattern that most natives use because he's asking for confirmation on something he's not sure of. The fact that you're overly bothered by pointless shit like this tells me you're an ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107682
the fact you're defending talking like a basedboy/teenage girl tells me you also do that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107701
youre acting like its uncommon

[Anonymous No.]

guy was saying you cant zoom in manga on a kindle but u can tho? why lie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107431
あたしはあなたの小便を飲みしたい

[Anonymous No.]

Whoa dudes I finished jjba part 3 today. Somewhere about halfway I pretty much stopped using a grammar guide and just kept reading. This wasn't to my advantage so I hope to not be so lazy during part 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107707
ignore him he’s probably 75

[Anonymous No.]

Aah, I just don't know what to do.
I have a bit over 10k words in my mining deck, but I still keep mixing up similar kanji.
Should I bother with RTK this late? I read into its first dozen or so pages and it's giving me keywords that are completely confusing and arbitrary and directly interfere with words that I already learned. I'm worried that it will actually cause more damage than help.

Maybe I should just do one of those 200 radical decks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107851
> it's giving me keywords that are completely confusing and arbitrary and directly interfere with words
Like what? 99.9% of the keywords you'll get are just English translations of kun-readings, eng-readings if you will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107860
like 軍 is chariot, which interferes with 戦車 that I know
肖 is spark
省 is focus
王 is ball (no, not 玉, but 王)
寸 is glue
同 is monks

and so on

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107872
軍 = army
肖 = resemblance
省 = focus (that's actually what it means)
王 = king
寸 = measurement
同 = same
You'd know this if you actually had the book, and all of this is way beyond its "first dozen pages". These are all primitive meanings. Either because that component gains that meaning from another character (球 - 王, 頭 - 頁, 自 - 鼻), or because the real meaning is too vague to be useful in telling stories. They are just names given to the radicals, the meaning of the original character is unchanged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107897
Yes, I actually read the book pdf, not just some random anki deck.
I know those are radical meanings. But it's still a meaning that you have to learn and assign to those kanji, and goes against what they actually mean.

[Anonymous No.]

What is cram on anki? I see it in my stats and when I look up what it is it doesnt give me anything useful

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107918
Lets you select a group of cards and keep doing reps on them without it affecting your card intervals.
For example if you do a cram with leech tagged cards, you can study only them, and even if you study them each 10 times they won't get super long intervals since it doesn't change your card scheduling.

[Anonymous No.]

think I finally understand せっかく

[Anonymous No.]

sekkusu

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107851
Try this deck
https://mega.nz/#!EMQRBa4C!o8o5g1SAVQcA9L3kxcidgLkpFAowt2q5sUju_pNfKuE
Writing, Recall, Kanji.Front: readings, keyword. Back: kanji. Covers ~2200 kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107908
You are of course free to keep everything the same if you have zero faith in your own intelligence.
You will miss out on community resources because you're no longer doing the same thing as them, and there's a good reason that these things were changed. A word like "same' is so general and common that it's going to appear in you mnemonics regardless. How will you know whether the "same" in your story is really a component?
And really, do you actually believe that you're so dumb that after doing RTK you will see 同様 and think it means monk-sama?

[Anonymous No.]

It took me 2 years to learn 1000 words, what's the estimate as to long it will take me to get a N1 diploma at this rate

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108182
12-15 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107879
いいえいぞうだとおもうけど

うまはのれたほうがよかったね

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

the most important book

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108182
how???

[Anonymous No.]

Any non ero vns that are good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108061
seconded. that deck is much better than RTK especially for people who have already been reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108182
You will be dead before you can at that rate

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108222
what do you like???

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108233
war, medieval, mahou. Please no mecha shit.

[Anonymous No.]

you guys ever make a schedule for what to do during your free time like
6pm anki reps 5 minutes
6:10 read VN
7:00 watch anime
8:00 read manga

[Anonymous No.]

is this

[Anonymous No.]

reading all of this fucking ローマ字 in japanese the manga way is making my eyes go in opposite directions. fuck me

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108253
what part don't you get?

さらに激しく、
even more roughly
さらに遠慮なく、
even more not holding back
フリジアの無毛の肉厚土手穴
frijia's hairless, thick, 土手hole (i guess thats slang for some sexual hole whether it be ass or vagina)
をかき混ぜまくる。
を grind all up in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108294
sorry hang in there. i was mad they used romaji too but its worth it for the awesome descriptions

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108182
ankidrone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108294
Real hell is reverse ローマ字, no wonder nobody in Japan knows how to actually speak English. Nips are even worse than Americans about clinging to their native pronunciations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108297
I'm just amazed someone here hasn't weaponized their autism/procrastinated learning jap by replacing all of it by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108310
thankfully they recently stopped doing this and switched to using the IPA for glosses instead

[Anonymous No.]

カップめんたべたくて

おゆわかしたら

カップめんがなかった

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108378
dont know if ipa is the best option but anything that isnt thinking about english in kana might make the next generation stand a chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108388
沸す
茹でる
炒める
煮る

i fucking hate that theres so many words for boil how the FUCK do i tell the difference

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107074
Did anyone ever translate this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107074
why is this funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108405
Seething.

[Anonymous No.]

Nah it looks like they're actually starting to depend on audio playback or having a "please read this out for us" English native in the classroom or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108378
source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108429
an image I saw randomly on twitter three years ago and never looked into

[Anonymous No.]

can I call people ~氏 (うじ) and get away with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108434
Why would I want to do that to the only decent Japanese speaking gaijin on the Internet?

Jealousy is not cool, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108434
dogen dono has taught me a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108455
Doesn't count if your shit is scripted and edited to hell and back. We've all seen what happens to Matt's "de wa"s when you put him on the spot.

[Anonymous No.]

what happens to Matt's de wa

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108482
>what happens to Matt's de wa
this question made me giggle thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108479
Script all you want, can you pull off a 3 minute video that Japs would be all over and telling you how good you are?

Or would you rather take a kanji quiz and sleep at night?

[Anonymous No.]

It took me a week to memorize a script for a 2 minute speech and it was so hard that it ended up being 5 minutes and my accent was shit. Even scripting takes a good amount of skill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108426
わかしたおゆでつくるのは

boiled egg
ゆでたまご

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108512
i spent all that time looking and that's not even there

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108521
your technique sounds bad. im a jp studies student so i do shit like this all the time and i can memorise 1000 characters in a couple of hours and im also nowhere near as good as i appear be when reciting it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108455
>>21108470
jealousy? no, this fags face is the most punchable shit ive ever seen id rock his shit on sight

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108518
he cuts after every line basically lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108388
>>21108405
>>21108426
>>21108530
おゆがあんまりなくって

できたのが

low temp. boiled egg
おんせんたまご

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108538
it is there lol try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108562
fuck i thought きんぐ would be the family name so i was only looking at that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108518
>can you pull off a 3 minute video that Japs would be all over and telling you how good you are?
I would hope not. That would mean they think miming a few words at a time as your native friend coaches you behind the camera is impressive. I like to think that Japanese people are not that dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108543
Doesnt' matter if my technique is bad for memorizing scripts because that doesn't help learn a language anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

The same people complaining about Dogen scripting his stuff are the same people who decline to read a page aloud over vocaroo.
>He scripts his shit though!
>I can't read all this script!
The only reason Matt should get shit for scripting is because he pretends he's perfect at Japanese. Dogen's scripting is common knowledge and is obvious since he does comedy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108425
>>21107074

heres the funny names in it, see if you can tell why it's funny!

inoue galaxy
kikuchi lionking
nakada four-heavenly-kings
nakajima fox-ghost
yokota continent/terra
yotsuya king of the earth
eguchi [hanako but pronounced] flower
okada deranged person [kanji]/cherry [pronunciation]
satou satou [satou sugar]
edani meow [nyaa]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108405

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108584
well you're implying that it has some correlation with language ability because of your difficulty doing it. and im saying it's a matter of technique, unrelated to language ability. try following the thread of conversation that you started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108588
actually i was the same person who read both vocaroo scripts lol. if i had practiced and not done it only my literal first read through they'd sound better

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108552
>>21108543

>>21105292
>>21106191

is me so feel free to say what u like m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108615
You're just a savant, I teach English to kids and through several years only 1 or 2 kids were able to learn a script that they couldn't have already produced by themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108628
im saying your technique is bad dummy. if you used a good memorisation technique you could do it too. people are just lazy and or dumb. i dont know why you think you're a master of knowing whether you're doing it right or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108631
I'm saying it doesn't fucking matter because if you don't already know the Japanese then it's literally the same as trying to memorize a string of sounds you dense motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108648
Holy shit I think I just lost a few brain cells just from reading that. Here's how it is: It's difficult to memorize and then sell a delivery of a script that includes Japanese you don't already know. Dogen using a script literally does not matter, he's good and that's that. He writes his own scripts and he delivers it so flawlessly that it's easily assumed that he's actually at that level. If you honestly believe otherwise then I'm willing to give you a script of a language you don't know (it's completely phonetic) and letting you give it a try over vocaroo. You will not be able to do it, period.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108655
Get him a native coach and let him do a seperate vocaroo for every line. Doesn't sound so impossible now, does it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108655
somehow you seem to have glossed over my whole point. someone can read well in japanese but be unable to speak well. i can read fine (n1+ plus) but if you put me in a convo with a japanese person i am going to fumble and say a lot of stupid ungrammatical shit. dogen presents his speech to be perfect by using scripts. im sure that he does not sound anywhere near as good when he's not cutting on every line.

im not suggesting he doesn't understand his scripts, that would be dumb, they're all very simple. he's not reading translations of das kapital or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108664
So you agree to do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108665
>someone can read well in japanese but be unable to speak well
So how does this matter at all to the point I'M making? Who the FUCK cares if this is true or not? If you're writing a script then presumably you're going to be SPEAKING that script. You're fucking retarded, accept the challenge or fuck off. Those are your two choices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108588
hes still a stupid faggot that deserves to get jumped

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108671
dude i dont know why this is so difficult to understand for you.

a native person could write dogen's script, he can read it and understand it and then speak it.

it's not his level, he's just able to comprehend written native (simple) japanese. it has literally nothing to do with your weird idea of being able to speak another language without knowing it at all.

im starting to see why it took you a week to memorise two minutes of speech (that you probably understood when reading fine lol)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108675
Didn't even read this post.

Everything you're saying is arguing that you should be able to do this challenge and yet you're bitching out and not doing it. I wonder what that means?????

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108689
Are you really pretending that you're going to pay for a native vocal coach to visit a random anon to do this challenge?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108690
He shouldn't need a native vocal coach because the language is phonetic and every single word has stress on the last syllable, no exceptions. But hey if he wants to find an excuse to puss out then there it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108689
i dont think i can do the challenge.

read my posts and try and understand my actual point instead of the iron-clad strawman you've concocted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108702
Kill yourself faggot, I'll even let you do a Japanese one since you're "N1". Still gonna puss out? You're such a bitch it's actually funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108703
ill do the japanese one, go post it.

[Anonymous No.]

r u guy sstill doin this shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDMd6_Y9Q8w

Do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108715
ok ill post my reply in a day after rehearsing it 100 times and then cutting every single line together like dogen

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108720
Ok, you have 24 hours. We're going off the honor principle that you won't look at any script while doing the actual reading.

[Anonymous No.]

pls dont talk like a anime character guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108721
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0kBJfqDhzaM
heres the preview of the first line ive got down so far. ur gonna get btfo boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108738
its u again

god im so depressed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFAu7MkANTo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108552
That's the point, you can't do it even with cutting.

>>21108573
What you hope is irrelevant, he's popular among Japanese who keep praising him. Can you do that? After all, it's all a sham, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108703
suck me off faggot lets have lovely gay delicious sex お願い, you're such a horny bitch it's not even funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108612
you rock

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108612
only good post in thread look at this comprehensible input ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108612
ごはんは

たく

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108758
how can i fixed my bust up nihongo jamal

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108789
そして

むらす

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108612
>茹でる
>>21108405

so 茹でる is the act of putting something in water TO boil it, or prepare it in boiling water, like a dried noodle in water. but the act of actually boiling is 沸す as in the WATER is boiling. but that's a seperate verb from actually boiling the noodle. to 沸す noodle you'd have to heat it to the point of it turning into vapor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108799
>沸す
also fuck you for making me not use か like an idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108794
idk dude just keep on truckin

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108807
10-4 on that

[Anonymous No.]

someone link the rap song that's unintelligible without subs. you know what i'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108847
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108847
the world would really lose nothing of value if the people that unironically enjoy this fucking trash were to be killed overnight

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108858
hot take faget lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108847
yo that is genuinely probably the worse ones you posted here before, i asked this several times in the past and i'll ask you again
why do you like bad music jamal?

[Anonymous No.]

i only like the good shit thats why ppl come in here and ask me 4 it

[Anonymous No.]

that song actually rips ass though lmaqo (a good thing)

[Anonymous No.]

it fucking sucks tbqhwy

[Anonymous No.]

much like ur posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108888
Wait you mean you don't just link that shit as a joke?

[Anonymous No.]

hes crackin boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108929
Cracking what? The corn and you don't care because massah's gone away?

[Anonymous No.]

・・yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108797
あかごのこえがして

ふたとってしんがのこる

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108944
くやしい

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108926
like this stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.]

plz guys no n word is just so offensive to me and hurts my feelings

[Anonymous No.]

>>21107098
>>21107126
salsa on these?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108434
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109006
Dekinai-chan / Lingua lift girl, my raindropsmemory.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think he's still around? I'd like to think that he joined Matt's cult during his latest attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109107
someone is inevitably gonna reply to this pretending to be him. it's not like it's hard to just use all the information in the first few posts to create a new one. only one or two of those posts is actually legit.

[Anonymous No.]

matt killed calvin and got away with it

black lives matter

[Anonymous No.]

Stop he's god tier by now. Talk about trial by fire. That perseverance MAJESTIC

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109113
Someone always inevitably makes a post like yours just to be annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

I have something cool and potentially interesting to post, but I'm going to wait until the next thread, because this one is full of aids and fail

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109122
you were posting it just to set up your pretend post and now i ruined it didnt i. sorry retard

[Anonymous No.]

someone is always inevitably gay and it is わたし

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109127
are you the same chucklefuck who keeps replying to people but forgetting to actually put the post number in for it to actually count as a reply

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109125
No I was posting it because I wanted to talk about something that wasn't what we talk about every day, sorry to trigger your autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109133
oh yeah cause we dont talk about retards who cant learn japanese in every thread shit i forgot

[Anonymous No.]

i only @ posts i think need to be @d

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109135
Sounds like you're not happy here, we wouldn't mind if you left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109143
im very happy to shit on retards who cant learn japanese, id just rather they actually exist and not be fictional. we can start with u if you'd like to join the quiz

[Anonymous No.]

please answer my poll for science https://www.strawpoll.me/17740164

[Anonymous No.]

the quiz is gay but i agree if u cant instant recall normal words u got shit u should be doin

however wouldnt it be sad and terrible if u could recall words but not ever be able to create a context on ur own to use them in lol or worse yet not even know what they actually are haha

run along and play now flashtard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109160
i answered ur very extremely common question poll in earnest i hope u can use my data for the greater good lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109151
Oh lol was this just some shitfest to set up your attempt to pretend to be that guy who talks about the quiz?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109151
put your trip back retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109219
hes not the only one shilling the quiz now. deal with. none of you nerds have proven yourself against the quizmaster
>>21108683

[Anonymous No.]

no one wants to have a typing race with some ass burger child who doesnt know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109230
1) it doesnt have to be a race, you can just come in and do the quiz by yourself if you want to prove you know japanese
2) he knows more japanese than you until you can prove otherwise because he has actually taken steps to prove himself unlike all the shit talkers

[Anonymous No.]

whos the one who answered yes can i marry you onegai please

[Anonymous No.]

remember to ignore discord trannies

[Anonymous No.]

we can also do listening + translation tests like this as we have been doing if you dont think the kanji quiz is good enough

https://streamable.com/gutin

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109006
iwaihime on >>21107098, i'll tell you in advance it's kinda boring, didn't finish it but the first chapter was decent but the second one was killing me so i just stopped reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109236
1 doesnt prove u know japanese and i still agree that u should try out instant recalling random words but really dont sweat it too much

2 LOL i sure hope not when he makes posts like this id feel really stupid >>21091594

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109265
>1 doesnt prove u know japanese and i still agree that u should try out instant recalling random words but really dont sweat it too much
i definitely agree that it doesn't prove you know japanese at all, its just a dumb memorisation+typing competition at the higher grades, but it 100% proves you don't know japanese if you can't even do the n2 vocab quiz by yourself and noone has even come in and shown that level of skill except 1 or 2 people out of 20-30 djt shitposters whove joined

[Anonymous No.]

fuck off flashtard's lackey

[Anonymous No.]

all im doing is trying to rid this thread of drunner-krugerites who think they have the right to a) shit on people or b) give advice about japanese

as much as i agree that the flashtard is too cocky & needs to be taken down a peg or two unfortunately noone has stepped up to the plate

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109295
no john
you are the drunner-krugerites

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109258
i'll come on and do your listening translation test, i think something like that is better than the kanji one desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109302
i'm the guy who keeps posting audio, for people to transcribe, i'll find you something if you want i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109300
no because i fully admit to being shit at japanese. im just trying to make people aware of what it takes to actually learn japanese so they dont get disillusioned. i have jcat 300+ and im still absolutely trash at japanese, but somehow many people in this thread who are nukemarine tier are dishing out advice and trash talk. u have to learn some humility

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109258
ill play ur game 1 time

帰国した諸君全員に一時金と休暇を与える しかるのち希望者は自らの意思を持って軍に復帰せよ 全員 cuts off

every1 who made it home is gettin hella paid and some r&r then

then if u wanna keep making america great again get ur ass back to my baller army

[Anonymous No.]

This daily routine of 3 hours of anki is getting tedious, but there is only one month left to end 10k core deck, DOJG and Remembering the kanji 3. Then I will be a free man after 9 months in this regime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109317
heh. it's clearly 意思を以って *scoffs*

[Anonymous No.]

that being said i never doubted jamal knew japanese only the quizmaster in his hubris could not see why someone would not want to take his dumb quiz

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109295
No you are trying to ease the pain from the fact that you are a repulsive fag irl whom everyone avoids by finding a retarded niche and claiming you are better then other at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109317
やぶいり？

ぐん？

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109349
a retarded niche like knowing japanese? isnt that what this thread is about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109362

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109366

>>21109258
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109366
more like nigel RETARDS lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109236
Sure hold on let me grind the n1 vocab deck and nothing else so I can pretend I know Japanese by passing a quiz.

[Anonymous No.]

alternatively you could just read and watch shit instead of shitposting and you'll have that vocab without grinding it like the retard you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109380
except none of us in the discord have actually done that and it's disingenuous to think so. the flashtard quizmaster makes all his flashtards from anime he watches. it's all input. hes not just an ankidrone.

the problem is that you are failing to even show the most basic level competency in japanese, ie being able to identify common words. sure, i'll admit that it says nothing about your ability to understand japanese when reading it but it 100% proves that you literally can't even attempt to read a japanese text if you don't know those words. if you can't even meet that basic standard for "it's possible you know japanese" then stop shitting up the thread by a) shitting on other people's japanese and b) giving advice to people when you don't know japanese like nukemarine

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109380
So you admit you and everyone else in this aren't capable of reading N1 words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108297
>[Japanese the Manga Way's] awesome descriptions
If it's actually awesome why hasn't anyone extracted its text to the guide like they have for DoJG.

[Anonymous No.]

I read a lot and have a modest vocab but I gotta admit fucking 趣旨 isn't one of them because it's not a word I've ever needed to know. I can see you right now SEETHING over the keyboard typing how 趣旨 is a common word but that doesn't mean a non-native like me has encountered it enough times to internalize it after even 100 books.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109397
ok but it's just one word out of like 10,000. i wouldnt talk shit if you get words wrong in the n1 or n2 quiz as long as you can consistently answer them. it's basic level competency.

[Anonymous No.]

also you're lying about reading 100 books btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109392
I admit that I'm not a kanji elitist and I've never given any effort into learning how to read kanji but that's mostly because I'm not a loser and I'd rather talk to people with real Japanese. But hey man to each his own, you want to know how to read kanji and I don't care. I would fail your test but I wouldn't fail a date with a Japanese girl.

[Anonymous No.]

WTFi though it りゃ=れば/れは contraction. Help jap masters

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109410
i have a japanese girlfriend (longterm, 2 years) and im also in the quiz on the same level as the quizmaster. so give up on your false dichotomy. it's basic competency in the language. i'm sorry.

also, if you're saying this and you don't a) post shittalking other peoples japanese or b) give advice to people about japanese

then you dont have to defend yourself. noone is attacking you for not knowing this shit. we're all hear to learn, i just want people who don't know what they're talking about to calm down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109416
delete kireicake it's been proven to be absolutely garbage. you're right it's ば

https://kotobank.jp/word/%E3%81%AA%E3%81%91%E3%82%8A%E3%82%83-346606

[Anonymous No.]

>xではない
not x.

>yではx
y is x? not trolling someone help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109410
i'm a Japanese girl, i only want to date those who prove themselves worthy in the quiz desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109422
>i have a japanese girlfriend (longterm, 2 years) and im also in the quiz on the same level as the quizmaster. so give up on your false dichotomy.

That's cool man I'm not saying you can't be good at both just I don't give a FUCK about being able to read kanji. I mostly read stuff with furigana in it and eventually those readings stick but I put zero effort into learning them so it's slow, I learn the word much sooner than I'm able to read it on paper. But hey man if you want to latch on to your internet discord points then go ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21104609
>>21104616
here is one of the one I use that's superior, I have another really good one but I need to convert it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21108588
>The only reason Matt should get shit for scripting is because he pretends he's perfect at Japanese
Matt constantly talks about how he needs a lot more practice to get better pitch accent and he admits in every video when he's reading a script or has read something beforehand. In that respect he's identical to Dogen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109433
ありがとうございました。先輩

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109442
ok but the thing is we're in a thread on /jp/ about learning japanese. so you'd assume that 99% of the people in here want to be able to read japanese, VNs, LNs, etc. not normie shit like trying to get a japanese gf. so i dont know why you're bringing this up as if knowing kanji isnt what most of us want to be able to do

[Anonymous No.]

Oh also just because I'd fail the quiz doesn't mean that the last 5 years of studying language acquisition isn't useful for giving advice. The fact is I'm probably more qualified than you or M*tt at giving advice lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109462
>Oh also just because I'd fail the quiz doesn't mean that the last 5 years of studying language acquisition isn't useful for giving advice. The fact is I'm probably more qualified than you or M*tt at giving advice lol.
why would you be qualified to give advice when you've been learning for 5 years and literally cant read, and when you're challenged on it you say "oh i dont care about reading i just want a gf" ok well why dont you go give advice in the normie boards. most people here want advice about how to get good at READING JAPANESE.

if anything your advice is going to be highly detrimental because they're just going to end up like you, or you're going to bias your advice towards your own goals of not actually knowing how to read japanese.

you are exactly the type of person that the quizmaster is trying to root out from this thread and teach to shit the fuck up, sit down, and let people give advice that's actually relevant and useful to the greater goal of most people here

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109438
wait till you find out about でもない

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109107
Yea he's still around. It's you after all. It was you when you brought "him" up last August and then responded to your own post giving more details about your made-up story of learning Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109459
i think its fine to be weak as hell at kanji for a long time and im definitely weaker than some people in here who mindlessly drill and memorize but much stronger in the shit that i think matters so its like fuck it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109483
ultimately i agree wholeheartedly that the important thing is not how many kanji you know but how familiar u are with the feel of the language, how words interact, etc etc

the quizmaster would beat my retard gf in the quiz cuz she doesnt know random kanji vocab but that does not mean he is anywhere close to her reading ability. he doesnt seem to understand this concept unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

to supplement this is me posting in djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109496
good job picking up on one minor point in my post because i owned you so hard you're afraid to go after the 趣旨 lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109482
No it's actually you

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109498
Based jamal once again saving DJT

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109503
It's me. I'm the quizmaster now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109498
It's OK even when you're weak?
But why does mama need to be there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109501
Minor point? Your entire post relies on that fact. I've been learning Japanese for just over a year, I've been studying LANGUAGE ACQUISITION for 5 years. So yeah, actually, I'm pretty sure I'm more qualified than you'll ever be at giving advice. Do you think that you're qualified just because you might know some Japanese? Absolute retardation, that's the reason why Japan has so many shit English teachers: They think they can "give advice" and "teach" kids English just because they know some. You're basically like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109520
弱いまま is 1 thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109531
"while you're weak"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109522
>I've been studying LANGUAGE ACQUISITION for 5 years
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109522
i could just link the pussy vid at u but ill give u more respect than that

this is djt not a educational strategy thread

no one fuckin cares what u have to say about language acquisition cuz better opinions and scholarly papers can be easily googled

come back in 10 more years

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109536
Something like that. The stay is unchanged . Don't think much about IT YOU NEED TO FEEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109522
LMAO this is even worse than i thought. you think that knowing shit is helpful? are you a krashenite?

you actually have a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation if you are making that english teacher comparison; there's a difference between an advanced L2 learner giving another beginner L2 learner advice on how to go about learning the language. the english teacher in your example never actually went through the experience of trying to learn for himself. whereas i actually have went through and tried many many methods to get to the level where I can READ JAPANESE (unlike you btw) and therefore im actually extremely qualified to give advice on what I believe works and doesn't.

you on the other hand are just here with some academic research that's all biased as fuck and based on absolute bullshit dispensing so called wisdom like "output from day 1!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109544
dang i wasnt even thinking about u specifically good to know ur mind belongs to me still muppet

shut up flashtard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109546
Is the entire discord this retarded or is it just you?

[Anonymous No.]

Worst djt thread ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109438
when では doesn't refer to a location it's just the て form of だ?
>xではy
so this would mean "is x, and....." or "is x, so....."?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109550
>the english teacher in your example never actually went through the experience of trying to learn for himself.
Japanese English teachers are all Japanese native speakers. You're so retarded you bring shame to your family.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109555
sorry didnt mean to put u on blast like that but i think it was reasonable

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109438
post actual sentences if you want advice

ｘではｙ doesnt actually make any sense so you can't translate it at all

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>>21109563
>Japan has so many shit English teachers: They think they can "give advice" and "teach" kids English just because they know some
LMAO as if you werent talking about JET retards who go over there.

theres still a fundamental difference in your example that you're obviously too dumb to see: im not actually teaching anyone japanese, im not teaching grammar, im not actually saying anything in japanese or instructing anyone. im telling people what is the best way to actually go about learning FOR YOURSELF.

now tell me, what do you think is the best way to learn japanese u dumb fuck? you have absolutely nothing to offer that can't be found on scholar.google.com

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>>21109572
someone translate this idk japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>わざとだったらごめんなし
having a brain fart. what is the なし here. TIA

[Anonymous No.]

We need or reddit brothers from /a/ to step up their game and defend us

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care about fluency or native level, I have a new goal. How many years do I need in Anki until I'm as cool as the guys on discord quiz?

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>>21109579
You have even less to offer than me but yeah you're right, nothing I have to say can't be found in thousands of books you won't read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109580
あのゲス野郎を私の前に引きずって来い！生かしたままだぞ。 手足をちぎっても、決して殺すな。 私自身の手で、奴の汚らわしい口を引き裂いてやる！

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>>21109592
ok so why dont you give us some advice? whats the best way to learn japanese?

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>>21109588
If you did that on purpose, I won't forgive you.
なし means that there will be no ごめん for you.

[Anonymous No.]

ive already told u guys its 10000 hours of eng subbed anime

then 20000 hours doing everything else without eng subs

im sure language acquisition scholar with a whopping 5 years under his belt will have no problem agreeing w. this

[Anonymous No.]

OMG RETARDS NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR DISCORD TRANNY POWER LEVEL OR YOUR SECRET "CULTIST HATE HIM" WAY OF CREATING MAGICAL CARDS STOP SHITTING THE THREAD

[Anonymous No.]

threads over dude ive once again dispatched of the evil they are just in their dying throes much suitable for a dying 1(いち)thread

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>>21109603
ah I was misinterpreting it. Thanks again.

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>>21109600
That's a very open-ended question and it would take me all the posts in an entire thread to answer that without knowing more about what you're having issues with.

That's a nice way of saying that I don't feel like helping you in particular, don't feel the need to prove myself to you, and therefore can't find any reason to want to tell you.

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>>21109594
Drag that scoundrel to me at once! I want him alive damn it! Cut off his arms and legs if you have to but do not kill him! I will slice his foul mouth in two by my own hand!

[Anonymous No.]

i'm here to report that for the first time in forever someone said something about coming to 聞く someone and i actually knew they came to "ask" instead of thinking it could be some other definition. please continue

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>>21109632
you are an inspiration to us all

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>>21109637
i didnt read it and still havent

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>>21109636
exposing these frauds*

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>>21109636
>we

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>>21109628
>how are you going to go about getting better at reading kanji?
I don't care about kanji so I have no plan set out. Probably after becoming real fluent I'll go back and learn the kanji. That's how native kids learn kanji and it's much easier for them since, as CureDolly puts it, the kanji fit in to a system they already know. But that's assuming I decide to go back and learn kanji.

>how many words (kanji only no furigana) do you think you can read after a year of learning?
I don't know because I don't care. I think I took a kanji test 6 months ago and the results were that I knew about 300 kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

i chose the wrong route and it has absolutely ruined this VN for me but i can't quit.

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>>21109650
yea me and the quizmaster exposed him. he was baited by the quiz and i just finished him off as u can see above.

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>>21109652
Post VN

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>>21109651
>That's how native kids learn kanji and it's much easier for them since
Nigga that shit takes them ten years.

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>>21109651
literally why are you in this thread LMAO
>I don't care about kanji so I have no plan set out. Probably after becoming real fluent I'll go back and learn the kanji.
THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON LANGUAGE ACQUISITION STUDY

so basically your advice to learners of japanese is "dont learn kanji just do it later cause thats how kids do it!" very helpful to literally everyone else in here who isnt satisfied with reading childrens books filled up with furigana

[Anonymous No.]

You didn't destroy me, just watch as I continue to give advice when I feel like it. Oh wait you won't know it's me because it's an anonymous image board. Wanting to help people far, FAR outweighs how much I even care about your existence. Honestly even the captcha is doing a better job at making me want to give less advice LOL.

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>>21109660
idk i dont see a problem here i think u can suck ass at kanji and be totally fluent and having proficiency in the spoken language first makes the written language so much easier when u get down to it

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>>21109666
yea but as much as i agree that 10k hours of eng subbed anime would work it's not efficient at all. the best way to get good at reading is just read and not pretend kanji is not a part of the language

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>>21109665
my ninja u gotta get u a 4chan pass imagine if i had to do the captcha every time i posted lmao

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>>21109660
>so basically your advice to learners of japanese is "dont learn kanji just do it later cause thats how kids do it!"
No that's just what I'm doing but good job trying (poorly) to put words in my mouth.

>>21109658
To be fair they're kids when they do it though. I think they start when they're like 7 or 8? You can't expect an 8 year old to learn 2000 of anything in a year.

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>>21109665
but you're an autistic screecher who just insults people and tries to feel superior, I don't think you've ever helped anybody

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>>21109673
im never gonna buy in2 ne1 pushing efficiency here of all places tho the overall level is just too low to even make it a priority and no one here is enough of an authority to design a complete ground up approach with efficiency at the forefront

scholarly stuff is out of my realm in the first place so either way i have no place in that but what i can do is give a guaranteed strat that will 100% work and will get u going for sure

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>>21109665
i dont actually give a shit if you stop giving advice or not. i just want the veil to be lifted so that the citizens of DJT, the young beginners, can see what the wizard of OZ really looks like. and as we can all see folks, it's not pretty.

take advice only from people you can trust such as the quizmaster.

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>>21109680
well i hate to say it but the quizmaster has been learning for like 2 years and his comprehension is actually as good as mine after like 8 years of fucking around. so i have to bow down to the animecards + input method unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

It's a sad day when someone is even worse for the quality of DJT than me.

Everyone here always knew that the thread is full of stupid beginners.

Nobody cares about you. You're delusional.

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>>21109677
The only person I've insulted is your discord group for trying to stop people from giving advice, and for good reason. Also since I'm anonymous I don't think you can tell if I've helped anyone (I have).

But hey we can sit here listening to the discord bitch about people helping each other all we want, they have no power so nothing will change.

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>>21109687
i dont doubt someone who devotes all their time to the shit gets proficient in less overall time

take him out of his comfort zone and itll all fall apart tho

i know cuz the same shit happened to me and can still happen to me

[Anonymous No.]

PS: Unlimited Fragworks, you gotta leave all those shitty Japanese learning chatrooms and try to get into the JOP media circlerjerk ones. You're too good for them. They care way more about DJT and the learning process and not anywhere near enough about what Japanese people convey through media.

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>>21109697
im not really trying to stop giving people advice per se, just trying to make it clear that the advice is all shit in here and you shouldnt listen to any of it if you want to succeed (unless you listen to the quizmaster or jamal as they have proven methods)

[Anonymous No.]

now this is definitely the worst thread in djt history

[Anonymous No.]

So now we have M*tt, Jamal, and this new quizmaster guy to endure every thread. It sucks that the real fluent people just silently leave instead of BTFO'ing these guys first.

[Anonymous No.]

the only thing btfo is ur asshole thats why ur whine posting

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>>21109720
thanks man but i know those people from the djt discord for a long time, though mary was exiled from it cause the owner didn't like him. maybe they're not into the same stuff i'm into at the same extent and i don't really care much for this competition stuff but i do like them

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>exiling in a shitposting discord
holy shit this just gets better and better

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>>21109741
it does suck. we want to get BTFO really badly. all we talk about in the discord is how badly we hope someone joins and destroys us but noone comes :(

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>>21109756
you genuinely do not want a lowercaser like me coming there and absolutely shattering your worldview. i'd relax if i were you

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>>21109766
no genuinely if u can btfo me i would greatly appreciate it im 100% serious, i want to see what someone whos been reading VNs and shit for years is capable of. its not about competition or smth, i just want to witness someones max potential

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>>21109774
dude i've only been reading for 5 months so i couldn't do shit but wouldn't it be crazy if i got super lucky and shattered your worldview

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>>21109783
well its actually impossible if you're only reading for 5 months so no lol

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>>21109788
no but what if the 1 in 1 quadrillion chance that i correctly guessed all the readings happened

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>>21109799
this is a dumb question cuz ur just asking "if a 1 in 1 quadrillion chance thing happened would u be shocked"? nah dude id be 平気 as fuck LMAO what do you think

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Don't join the discord. I joined once and got kicked because I didn't know what 肺 was during the entrance exam quiz. Then the quizmaster DM'd me and started calling me an idiot and a dekinai and told me to give up and kill myself. I'm a bit of an emotional person sometimes, I admit, and that really hit me hard, so much that I uninstalled anki for awhile. He kept messaging me every few days and I eventually had to block him for my mental health. I thought that was it then then I saw the quizmaster at a grocery store in my town the other day. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a dekinai and bother him and ask him for a rematch quiz or anything
He said, “あっちへいって！もううるさい！"
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “えっ？えっ？” and holding up a piece of paper with his discord link on it. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him 草 as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen umeboshi onigiri in his hands without paying.
The middle-aged girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “あの、すみません、客さま！” At first he kept pretending to be gaijin and not understand her, but eventually turned back around and actually couldn't understand her.
When she took one of the onigiri and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent my japanese from being permacrippled” and then turned around and draw a kanji in the air. I don’t even think it was a real kanji. After she scanned each onigiri and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by saying "クイズで死んでこい！" really loudly.

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>>21109810
yea i figured so your mind would be blown. mine would be too

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to be a tripfag the very least you can do is stick to your trip so you can be filtered.

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>>21109841
WHY WONT YOU LEAVE ME ALONE DUDE
FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

by december I'll be at 12k+ vocab and have done rtk 3k twice (second time for writing) and then I'll beat the quizmaster and god my N1, I'm the legendary up and comer djt needs

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>>21109852
>>21109841
That's an impostor.

>>21109816
I really laughed at your post man thanks for that.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the firefox or opera plugin that lets you mouse over a kanji for information on it? It might have done more than that, but I don't remember.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm currently at a stage with Japanese where I'm reading my third murakami book, listening to the news and shit no issue. Can somebody who has gotten to a similar level in Jap that can redpill me on the Korean language. Is it worth learning? Was it easier because of the moon experience? What Korean content is out there and why did you start?

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>>21109914
I don't really care about your korean shitpost but can you beat the quiz master in his shitty game?

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>>21109816
thats fucking ファニー my guy but you should know 肺 you fucking dekinai

[None !MattVsJpEs No.]

I made this trip for Matto-sensei but I don't know how to send it to him.

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>>21109914
korean is a boring ass gay pointless language

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>>21109951
Why do you think that?

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>>21109940
nice trip dude

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>>21109816
kek

[Anonymous No.]

recommendation for voice work (erotic) with script?

[Anonymous No.]

"How many words do natives know?
大学生レベル： ４万５千～５万語 = University level: 45-50 thousand"

This is the most de-motivating thing I've read in awhile. How the hell am I supposed to learn and understand 50,000 words? Learning 2200 Kanji is already hard enough.

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>>21109986
lol it's not that big of a deal just read a lot my dude.

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>>21109986
About 10k word is enough to have a good reading speed, but you will still need your dictionary on every few sentences.
20k words is enough to stop using the dictionary as crutch.

40-50k words include highly specialized vocab like sciences, etc.

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>>21109986
first of all that is a really hard thing to calculate and second of all that might count variant kanji (for example 見る and 観る as two different words), different tenses (for example 見る and 見た as two different words). Third of all a lot of words in japanese are really similar to other words (for example if you know what 先祖 means you could easily "guess" 祖先)and meanings can be guessed from kanji very often at a certain stage.

[Anonymous No.]

I for one don't mind the dictionary. I just want to visit Japan and have no problem communicating, after a few years. Anime is a side benefit.

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>>21110011
Such a fucking blunder that they wrote 令 with a chinese font.

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>>21110004
On the "Definition of 'word'" section

>>21109998
Is it not needed to know those highly specific words for employment, translation work or not?

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>>21110017
That's the correct way of handwriting it. And the sign is handwritten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110017
that's how it's written when handwritten you fucking retard, look up stroke order for 令 and you'll see it looks like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110020
Most high schoolers know words like 素数 and 蛋白質 but you don't need to know those for a random job.
Of course translation and language related work is different and have higher requirements.

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>>21110020
>On the "Definition of 'word'" section
Yeah it counts tense. Since Japanese has such a small amount of irregular verbs, learning the conjugations will make learning each verb the equivalent of learning 10 or so words. To put it differently the stats you are looking at mean nothing and you stop caring about them

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>>21110034
>蛋白質
I'd strongly argue that the majority of all high schoolers in japan couldn't read this in kanji desu

[Anonymous No.]

im pretty sure 白質 is enough of a clue (adult joke #1)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21109986
If you know 10k words you probably actually know at least 30k words you just don't know that you know because a lot of words are just two words smushed together. Like 弱虫

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110061
What's that even with 虫? 泣き虫,　弱虫 ... do they not like bugs?

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>>21110020
There is the 95% theory too which is that once you know 95% you should be able to understand the other 5% through context. Hence 12k is really when one can say they know nihongo and never have to flashcard again. M4tt flashtarding all the way to 40k is just silly. He just needed to read more which I think he just figured out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110070
no one likes bugs you maggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110044
the language acquisition expert chimes in

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=147

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110100
oh my pushy john

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110085
Bugs are cute AND important for the ecosystem!

[Anonymous No.]

bugs r ftw dude nature owns

[Anonymous No.]

>虫国
damn japs really hate bugs

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>>21110085

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>>21110128
nice

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>>21110128
wew wew nips

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110138
mhhfff those armpits

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110100
whats a pushi jon?

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit the ajatt website is fucking terrible. I want to try it but it hurts to read this retarded website

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110209
use the table of contents and only read the ones with titles that interest you

[Anonymous No.]

Japan's fascination with America and English is cute but it sucks that America's status as superpower will wane over the coming century as it gets browned and Japan will fall out of love and start looking up to some other country with some other language. Maybe they'll become China's little brother again.