/DJT/「Daily Japanese Thread」第2121番

[Anonymous No.]

This is a Japanese language learning thread for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, and Japanese video games.
If you have no interest in otaku media or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Read the guide before asking stupid questions.
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Old guide for those afraid of change:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

You don't enjoy Japanese media as much as you think you do and nobody will like you for knowing Japanese. Don't bother learning Japanese.
前スレ: >>20932408

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oh no i thought djt was finally dead

[Anonymous No.]

thank god i was worried djt was never coming back

[Anonymous No.]

Woahhh its not dead

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so if nihonjin adopted left-to-right writing from based americans, why couldn't they also use space between words as well

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>>20943211
is there any way to send stuff to itazuraneko in private while making sure he actually sees it
he doesn't check his web feedback form often

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>>20943244
They made sure to include pleb filter for dummies like you

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This is the last thing I'm gonna say on these threads: Like many of you, I was myself for some time at a crossroad with ajatt/mia and matt himself and his followers. But when you actually put your ego away, you realize they're on the whole right. You don't have to follow their religion, but if you want to get the best results in the quickest amount of time, you would be best to take what you can from their philosophy. If you don't want the best results in the shortest amount of time, do something else. Good luck ya weebs.

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Yoshi -1 cultist

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>>20943260
the 30k kanjis already do the trick

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>30k
>kanjis

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>>20943244
cause its uncomfortable to read

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>>20943261
report back when you quit dont be like karubin tryin to pretend none of this happened

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>>20943261
I mean m*tt keep contradicting himself again and again so he's bound to say sensical things every once in a while

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>>20943293
thats what makes him truly dangerous

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>>20943244
how many more nukes until they just use romaji

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>>20943317

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I started learning Japanese recently and I started to realize just how many different meanings certain words have. Context helps some, but if not for the kanji in the manga I'm reading I would've been very lost on the meaning of some lines.

Conversely, it's really convenient how the manga lists the hirigana next to the kanji for all the text. Too bad they don't do that for the chapter titles.

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>there's still no good substitute for yomichan on android

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>>20943397
How would you even interact with it? Where's the shift key on a modern shitbox candybar phone?

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>>20943390
are a couple of words per chapter too much for you
not even handwritten

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>>20943406
Highlighting words? Or if it was an app you could even just tap them.

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>>20943407
I'm more worried about my interpretation contradicting the actual meaning of the text, which could cause confusion later on if it was indeed the other meaning of the word.

For a famous example, remember when Dark Horse translated Kanno Naoshi as Sugano Nao in volume 1 of the official Drifters manga?

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>>20943407
It's historical where a character speaks in an archaic dialect and even Japanese readers have no idea what he's saying half the time since he uses uncommon terms.

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>>20943397
>>20943442
>what is Nazeka
don't thank me faggots

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>>20943472
>also works on android
Yes yes yes-
>firefox
Well,

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>>20943449
youre going to misinterpret things even when you dont misread them
if youre not overconfident itll sort itself out

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>>20943485
Tell me how Firefox for Android is worse than any other Android browser you have 3 minutes

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>>20943491
Just dont loik it mlord

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>>20943496
Well have fun spending hours looking up every single word you don't know in a dictionary then, guess it's better than giving a browser you "don't like" (most likely for some stupid-ass reason like "it's slooow chrome is betteeeer) a try then ;)

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>>20943359
https://nihongobyjamal.neocities.org/

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>>20943520
No i really just don't like ff ive had a bad experience with it in the past. That's really all. I'll probably still dl it and this, though. As long as it works decently it'd be okay.

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>>20943534
Here we go, stupid ass reason just as predicted

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honestly lmao if u havent coded ur own browser yet for simple operations LOL

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>>20943551
i thought u dont code whats the real truth next ur gonna say u arent 69

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im actually a 420 year old in a 69 year olds body

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>>20943261
Any approach consistent with Krashen's models of language acquisition will yield results in the same time to within statistical significance. Matt and Khatz and Antimoon all come down to the same thing: lots of input, use grammar guides and dictionaries and some approach to kanji to make it comprehensible. Anything beyond that is crap they made up and is unsupported by research.

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when is someone gonna research eroge + vocab cards vs eroge + sentence cards vs just eroge

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>>20943686
you just need to fund the study and somebody will do it

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>>20943695
cant you get free volunteers who definitely dont know nihongo and will try anything from reddit or somethin

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>>20943686
ive tried all of them for multiple months each and i personally felt the most improvement w/ vocab cards + eroge

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im pretty sure most of these wannabe nihongoers are just in love with the idea of reading eroge but actually dont wanna do it at all when then install and run one

this is frankly the best litmus test on if u will make it or not

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i think most of the people not readin eroge are people who laugh at the idea

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I'm doing Genki. I'm about 3/4 in until finishing it all. Lesson 17/23
I'm very frustrated because I keep forgetting stuff I learned in previous lessons. And they don't always show up later.
I also feel like some words and kanjis it teaches me aren't a good priority. Some of them I almost never encountered in anime and manga. And I've been told by you guys that some grammar is used in very unnatural examples.
At this point I don't even know if I should continue.

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time to give up bud
>You don't enjoy Japanese media as much as you think you do and nobody will like you for knowing Japanese. Don't bother learning Japanese.

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>>20943843
this

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Nobody likes me already and I don't really enjoy anything. I'm just wasting time until my death.

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>>20943827
Unnatural examples are not too big of a deal as long as they illustrate the concept and you don't memorize them, you will get your natural examples from native material later
>I'm very frustrated because I keep forgetting stuff I learned in previous lessons. And they don't always show up later.
This will sort itself out once you actually read more shit consistently
Words and Kanji in Genki might not be "prioritiy" for you but they are all common and you should know them
If you are at 17/23 you might as well push through, just don't spend too much time on it

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>Benny Lewis has a very straightforward approach to language learning and certainly one I resonated with.
>The dude speaks 11 languages (several of them very well) so I would be a fool not to listen to him.
>The thesis of his teaching is to Speak From Day 1.
OHNONONONONONO

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>>20943550
Fine, you want the truth? You want the real fucking reason? Fine. My phone came with chrome installed on it and i dont know how to install firefox.

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Benny Lewis mastered Japanese in 3 months so I wouldn't question him.

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>>20943827
nail on the head, and almost anything of value that is taught in there you would learn as a side effect of real study aka immersing in native content

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>>20943897
>After starting the project, Lewis initially pushed the deadline for achieving fluency back by two weeks, then ultimately stopped the project after failing to achieve fluency, achieving a basic level of Japanese.

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Just go to the playstore bro

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>>20943883
How will /djt/ ever recover?

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>>20943908
Sad that people dedicate time to lying about someone who accomplished something so beautiful.

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>>20943883
lol he was actually somehow worse at talking in japanese at 6 months even though thats all he did.. his system only fossilizes retarded mistakes, it's a total gimmick

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>>20943827
>it's another "beginner sees a kanji/word/grammar that's not in the top 100 most common and assumes it's useless and a waste of time to learn" episode
You don't have to finish Genki, but it's a fairly basic book so nothing that you learn there is going to be a waste of time.
If you forget something, then go back and re-read it. It's natural that you don't have 100% recall. If you have problems with conjugations, practice a bit. Genki has a textbook that helps you do some verb and adjective conjugation practice to drill it in.

If you really hate it, don't push and burn yourself out, though. Every minute that you spend studying Japanese is going to make you better at it, even if you don't follow the absolute optimal route (which also varies from person to person). You can stop Genki, just don't stop studying Japanese.

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If you're reading every single word and going through genki like mud you're fucking up
Like lingo steve says you should spend aboy a week going through some guides and the rest of the time should be immersion in native content which is the real training.

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類義語は本当に面倒くさいだよね

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>>20944075
>面倒くさいだよね
「面倒くさいよね」と言うべき。イ形容詞を使うと、いつも「だ」を使わない

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>>20944133
can i make the monolingual transition if i understood this, no troll

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>>20944141
Do you know all the 常用漢字?

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>>20944144
if you mean words that use them, not even half.

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>>20944141
You can make the transition to another language because you already crippled your nihongo permanently by reading and "understanding" gaijin nihongo.

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Does anyone have a torrent for the Kanken books? I think I want to try and take the test someday.

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>>20944146
I meant the kanji themselves, but knowing words is important too because if you don't know enough kanji and enough words, you just simply can't make the transition without talking a lot of time to look stuff up. when you do the actual transition, to be sure, you're going to have to look stuff up, but you want it to be so little that you wouldn't be better off just doing more studying of something else. it's not the easiest thing to gauge when you get down to the nitty gritty, but if you don't even know half of the 常用漢字 you're just wasting your time. I'm not trying to be rude, I just don't think it makes sense to waste time in the process

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what does knowing kanji without knowing words mean

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>>20944152
泣き虫

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>>20944175
愛が泣ければ見えない

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>>20944172
you have an understanding of what a kanji (at least typically) means by itself, but if you look at a word that has the kanji you wouldn't know it's meaning. with single-kanji words it's pretty rare, but there are a lot of words with two or more kanji where you could know the kanji they have, but your estimation of the meaning is off. sometimes slightly, sometimes way off. like 上品 for example, but there are hundreds of examples like this

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>>20944172
Understanding (some of) the ideas that the kanji map to, which in many cases can clue you in as to a word's meaning even without knowing the japanese, and which in practice will be how you "read" them (kanji-meaning-reading instead of kanji-reading-meaning).

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Thoughts on imabi?

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tfw you did RTK and learned most joyo kanji meanings but it's been 6 months so you forget a lot of them but when you refresh yourself the meaning sticks better

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>>20944225
i mean, yes, but obviously it would have been even better if you'd kept doing the RTK cards while mature at the trickle rate

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>>20944225
>memorizing the meanings
you poor soul

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>>20944228
i got like 90% of them to maturity but i haven't learned new words fast enough to retain all the meanings.

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>>20944231
it's a more efficient way to process them in your head whether you like it or not

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ore no chinko ha mijikai nano

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watashiwa so fuckin gay

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watashiwa never gonna learn this shit watashiwa too stupid

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When i'm fluent i'm gonna flex my nihongo powers on scrubs. Just watch me!

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Go to try duolingo app out just now, took entrance test, miss 2 questions out of like 40 (because of typos), placed me at the 80% point of all of their content. I still suck but at least I"m a god among the pleb tier. Immersion and anki work.

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yo-shi kyou mo ichinichi ganbaruzoi

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>>20944248
僕も。精液は美味しいですね。

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>>20944243
>ha
なぜローマ字がダメなのかはこれ

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do u guys want me to play the visual game again

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>>20944257
Mate trust me from and this is coming from someone that wasted almost 1.5 year on retarded learning methods on japanese. Don't waste your time . Duolingo is not even pleb tier
it's just retarded. You can waste 10 years on that one and you still won't be able to read the basic VN after spending all that time.

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>>20944268
do it

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>>20944264
僕のお尻に精液で膨らませるはできる？

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ne, minna, which content should I immerse myself into after yotsubato and death note mangas?
should I try a VN?

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>>20944133
確かにそうだ
もう知ってたくせにきづかなかった
なんだか悲しいね

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>>20944277
I wasted a whole 10 minutes on it, I know whats up ;)

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>>20944302
that's fuckin gay

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>>20944304
Offer a prayer to kami to not end up as karubinkun. We were to late to protect that 黒人　えがお

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雌雄を決する
So this basically means to decide who's the man and who's the bitch?

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>>20944287
maybe in a while i dont really have an hour to sit down and write a bunch of shitty posts about this visual game that makes sure to never let u forget that every1s fuckin dead

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>>20944304
>>20944324
note that the most effective form of prayer is to play eroge

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>>20944333
家内
so this basically means that womyn belong in the house?

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>>20944350
>what is 宅

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Attempt to finish adojg deck in a week.

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>>20944363
make it 2 weeks and keep up the reviews for 2 months

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>>20944363
>how to not remember anything in 2 weeks: the guide

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>>20944378
thanks for the advice. I'm actually gonna keep it there "forever".
i aim for two weeks now, then

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>>20944358
you can ask nukemarine AKA the resident kanji connoisseur on the meaning and composition of kanji ala heisig

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>>20944363
took me 5 months godspeed

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>>20944385
it's anki, bro. its only purpose is not letting you forget

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>>20944393
good, I know patience is hard with this stuff but the slower the better in some cases, balance

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>>20944398
oh you mean just the advanced. i meant all 3 books. but 5 months is still too long....

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>>20944395
>he doesn't know its a word

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>>20944412
no it's a crown a fishook and a decameron

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Might be a retarded question but is there a difference in saying “I will do -verb-.” and “I am doing -verb-.”?

When going through learning resources I often seen things like 私食べます or other similar sentences in a similar form translated as both.

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>>20944302
ごめんなさい。僕はウケです。

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Not a banger in the traditional sense, but here you go /djt/, some good nihongo music

https://youtu.be/Atc0ERea7nE

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>>20944418
私は食べます*

Whoops

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Does Wareya still post here? Was wondering if someone knew if he still took vn script requests here.

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>>20944418
where do you see 私は食べます get translated to "I am (currently) eating" ? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the plain present (like 食べる) and ます present mean either "I do x" or "I will to x" while ている is for present perfect (I.e. I am (currently) doing x).

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thats some pretty terrible quints

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>>20944430
just what I need for my anki session

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>>20944440
https://twitter.com/Wareya

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>>20944418
There is no exact future tense but it's easy to figure out. As for 'do' and 'doing'.
たべる
たべている
する
している

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_fI65e9beI

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>>20944418
You use present tense with a word like 明日 or つもり.

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>>20944440
He keeps shilling his terrible software and terrible web browsers as seen in >>20943472 >>20943491 >>20943520
So ask away!

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^Cringe

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nazeka its shit lol

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What was the first thing you read /djt/?
I really can't do NHK News Easy. It's just too uninteresting.

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>>20944515
信天翁航海録

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>>20944515
tae kim and dojg example sentences

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>game starts jacking off to political themes
i sleep

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>>20944515
nothing is uninteresting in itself; the problem is your lack of concentration

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>>20944515
Clannad. I read it side by side with the translation, advancing one line in Japanese, trying to translate it and comparing to the English version. God it took months to read it.

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>>20944515
Read Real Japanese

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>>20944528
Can recommend too this but if you can't muster up any interest for the stories it won't be much more exciting than NHK. Doing this >>20944527 with something you're interested in has the advantage in that regard, but is probably much higher in terms of difficulty.

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>>20944528
>>20944559
>Read Real Japanese
i was very confused until i realized that's the title of a book

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>>20944523
concentration isnt it

its the not being a literal child anymore thing that really fucks up all chances of learning japanese

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>>20944515
yotubato
read three to six volumes of yotubato or all of it if you like it
read one vn in the leftmost column
now read whatever you want if you understand enough to stay interested
drop anything that you dont want to read and pick up something else

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>>20944569
it just makes it more difficult, don't be a bitch

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>>20944456
I don't have a twitter and I don't really want to make one just for this. I've been trying to get readable scripts for Ever17 and Never11 but kid's engine is kind of a pain in the ass to work with.

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>>20944528

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>>20944574
i'm gonna sound like a dekinai and pussy but the yotsubato scans are way too low quality for me to enjoy reading them... how come that there are no better scans for the manga of the literal 4chan mascot?

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im triggered he doesnt even know which number goes on which game

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subarashiki hihi

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>>20943397
I use Kaku for apps and Aedict Reader Popup for text.

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>hihi

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>>20944587
looks fine to me

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>>20944587
nips don't care about 4chan.

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>>20944617
they'd feel weird knowing how much better the english equivalent is.

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>>20944612
huh that's way bietter resolution than what's in the OP

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>>20944617
who says nips have to scan it?

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>>20944587
Only eromanga has high quality raws. Scanlators are shitheads and never upload their stuff.

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>>20944515
Manga and Anime subtitles. I already know it's not reading so spare me.

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Manga is reading.

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>>20944651
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE
DID YOU KNOW THAT

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>>20944612
where did you get this quality?
if i try to zoom to this size on the scans in the OP i can barely make out the Kanji anymore

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>>20944617
there's quite a few natives (netouyos) on /int/, and i think there used to be a blog translating 4chan posts.
at the very least, they're more aware of 4chan than reddit.

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>>20944663
probably nyaa

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>one of my shitposts might have been translated and enshrined by nips
based

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>>20944515
>Read Real Japanese
Graded readers. Level 1 is like sub n5. I read all the way to level 3 and they are pretty excellent. The limit selection of grammar help enforce newly learned points to really make them stick. Expensive as fuck unless you live in japan though..

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>>20944612
I want to read Yotsuba.

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>>20944623
This level of bait

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>>20944663
it is in our manga shitlary, maybe you're confused because later volumes look even worse

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at what point did you realize you're never gonna be a yankee, therefore having no reason to live?

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People who uses Anki help me understand something. How does Anki quizzes relate to when you forgot things and look it up outside Anki?

The idea behind the due date (eg 4 days later) above the button for a card is that Anki thinks, based on an SRS model, that I'm on the edge of forgetting that card in about 4 days time of non-use, right? And by forcing me to remember it on the 4th day, I'm extending my memory of that word for more days.

But what if you look up that word when you found that word in a book, say, 3 days later? Then, when Anki asks it again, it does not quiz me on my edge of forgetting, but merely on the day after I re-remember it, ruining the whole forgetting curve thing.

I keep mistaking the reading for 不謹慎 with ふきんじん, so the card keeps coming back. If it was due in 8 days, but I came across it in 6 days, looked it up, what do I do with the Anki card?

while i'm confused at all this i'm just gonna read (and look up words) some more

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>>20944778
lol

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>>20944778
you've just fucked your whole nihongo up. its gone. its done. just give up now

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>>20944794
no way man, not when there are more Matsuko Deluxe to be enjoyed

who else in here likes Japanese variety shows

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>>20944778
You are right and the way to true Japanese mastery lies in trusting the Anki algorithm.

That means avoiding any Japanese content outside of Anki intervals as much as possible as to not interfere with the spaced repeition system.

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>>20944778
don't worry about that shit
anki is supposed to be a supplement, it's not like you can never learn a word if you don't exactly follow the "forgetting curve"
besides that, if you come across it in 6 days and therefore more easily answer it correctly on the 8th day you'll have to remember it for a longer period next time, if you get that one right everything is okay anyways and if you fuck it up it just goes back to the start

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>>20944778
あんたゲイ
With SRS, you don't see the word for say, 8 days, not because seeing the word is somehow harmful, but because you want to see the cards at the longest spacing to save time and effort. More exposure to the word is of course better. Anki is your backup and if you do forget the word in say another 16 days, it'll test you again and remind you. But if you keep reading and seeing the word even more, of course you'll learn more.

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>>20944778
stop doing everything ur doing and just watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=12

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>>20944778
youre putting more thought into this idealized model of how memory works than the anki dev did when he wrote the algorithm

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>>20944800
Yeah I was, for a brief period of three months, doing this, using only Anki to memorize new words.

>>20944801
Yeah after a few months I just...don't care anymore about it. I do vocab quizzes on my free time now, just fuck up my forgetting curve.

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>>20944811
it's probably the shittiest "song" I've heard in my life.

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>げ
>み
>さ
>め
I kinda love the variety of 'single word' changes Japanese have for the ends of their adjectives that changes the meaning. Is there a word for this sort of 'grammatical object'? I wonder how many there are.

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>>20944849
i could put ur posts to a beat

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>Not watching the best drama this season
What's wrong with you?

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not a fan of trash mostly i guess

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>>20944894
What's so good about it? Sell me on it

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what does tari on a verb ending mean. and even chau is on there

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>>20944927
that should be in dogj and hojg

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>>20944927
http://maggiesensei.com/2013/09/29/how-to-use-%E3%80%9C%E3%81%9F%E3%82%8Atari-%E3%81%9F%E3%82%8A%E3%81%97%E3%81%A6tarishite/

a nice helpful dog

[Anonymous No.]

it means ur fucked cuz u dont know japanese

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>>20944940
>learning japanese
>come across a japanese thing I don't understand
welp, i'm fucked

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>>20944940
you're right because if one fucking verb is listed with "tari" chucked on there how the fuck do i understand what the fuck that means? oh it's a "representative activity"? fucking stupid ass fucking language.

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u shouldnt claim to be learning japanese when ur very likely not

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>>20944924
The actor playing the teacher is excellent.
Plot is he takes his entire class hostage to solve a murder/suicide.
Usually japanese actors aren't that great but this guy is playing the villain very well, especially in emotional moments.

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>>20944569
it does in itself for purely external reasons.there are plenty of fluent 外人, so the problem isn't being an adult. stop making excuses and work on not being last, concentration, and your willpower. your mindset will be your downfall

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>>20944950
who are you to tell me i'm not learning shit? are you the god of dumbasses

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>>20944949
~tari suru
do stuff like ~

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>willingly watching 3d

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>>20944961
there is no suru but there is a toka so i guess it means "do something like" even though i have NO idea what the hell that could mean in the context of the sentence which i REFUSE to post. oh well. still a gay fucking language

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>>20944960
dont worry ull either quit soon enough or stick with whatever ur doin long enough to come back and tell me i was right

a lot of them do

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>>20944966
Oh, not just willingly, my friend. Enthusiastically.

Matsuko Deluxe or bust

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944970
nobody cares how degenerate what youre reading is

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944966
I agree with this gentleman. >>20944982
月曜から夜ふかし is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944986
Just a good ol' demon baby raping its own mother after its own birth

[Anonymous No.]

i want to watch variety shows and drama but when i google "best japanese dramas" the recommendations aren't from trustworthy anons so i just watch another shitty anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944994
well i mean its time to make another one now that her ovens vacant

i can understand this from a biological standpoint

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944999
>variety shows
I can't help you with drama but I've been inundated with this for the past week or so and I can't recommend マツコの知らない世界 or 日本人の3割しか知らないこと くりぃむしちゅーのハナタカ enough. The latter I think is beginner friendly, as it has a lot of words written on screen for every single thing. It's also about unusual facts/methods about daily life, which is gold if you're a trivia fan. Good spread of topics. Of course most of the trivia won't be applicable since it's Japanese centric, but hey, you don't know, maybe that knowledge on why Japanese restaurants can't allow you to open your own beer bottles will be useful someday.

Sadly if you want high quality videos you're out of luck. I downloaded them off video.9tsu.com using youtube-dl and they're like 426x328.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_KIW3uBaWE
it's time for some listening practice, djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944999
Why do you need recommendations?
I try to watch the first episode of every new drama and then keep watching what's interesting. Same for anime.

This season I'm watching:
３年A組
イノセンス冤罪弁護士
フルーツ宅配便
絶対正義 (Not sure about this one yet but the first two episodes were okay)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945017
Naoki-raws had good quality ones, but they haven't uploaded anything in a month.

[Anonymous No.]

its time

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zriXZMAqsg
its time for some listening practice djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945070
loved. most of the time I have trouble finding japanese hc bands.. any other to suggest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945098
well if ud like to step up to the next level of listening practice its ur funeral

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uID-0LVRNbA

[Anonymous No.]

化
北

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945120
I was going to suggest you anti feminism haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945098
>not listening to screamo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8yKjrC7TOg

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945122
rtk

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>>20945144
Envy I already knew from my screamo phase back in 2005 or something. Nice band though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945160
or just learn nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945122
That's a fucking first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944999
get into 3d idol, years of variety content to watch and easy to obtain good raws
also cute girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945187
this shit is literal trash japans gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945187
>years worth of content
>I finished every sony idol group variety in a year
Fucking hiragana casuals. Do you ever stop sucking dick?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945180
>kanji isn't a part of Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945187
god I wish that was me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945187
>almost kill someone
>pull their hair

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945187
This is like torture. All this cocktease and no nudes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945198
I said 3d idol, not sakamichi
There's decades of content in fact

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/yyuplqmk3SY

Randomly stumbled across this. Imagine spending thia much time making that gay notebook insteas of actually studying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945213
Good thing I didn't say sakamichi then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945217
lol this is the true low IQ normie learners method

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945217
That's what happens when you're more interested in making things look pretty than studying Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945198
how did you finish them when they're still ongoing

[Anonymous No.]

everything besides original morning musume is TRASH

this idol shit is a disgrace and must be stopped

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945187
Was this planned?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945217
>>20945236
>>20945239
she will be fluent before any of you incels

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945247
I'm more concerned about k-pop. THAT is shit.
Idol is just... bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945217
>Genko Series
not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945250
yes, this is basically the japanese equivalent of wresting

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945256
korea can frankly suck my dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945247
there's nothing wrong with cute girls doing cute things

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945261
are there still many retards in america believing wwe (and the like) was real? or was it just a thing of the pre-internet times?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945247
This.
I remember dancing to some video of a live concert and finding tanaka reina really hot when I was like 12 or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945262
Korea is based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945247
Awful post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945286
destroyed

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>>20945271
sorry shes not og u are part of the problem unfortunately

>>20945265
and i bet u think animals at the zoo are cute

>>20945274
solid pic all around

>>20945286
why did u @ me and then announce the title of ur post

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>>20945257
If you do genki right, mainly by just avoiding the awful kanji bs it shoehorns in, you can actually get a really good foundation in Japanese. I genuinely think most people just bad-talk it because other people have done so, ad infinitum

[Anonymous No.]

the average genki hater also subscribes to the average aidsjatt vlogger so what do u expect

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945319
Think he was referring to this.
I agree with you btw. Genki is fine

[Anonymous No.]

otoh if u cant read the authors names on the cover of the book after finishing it can u really say its not horrible ?

[Anonymous No.]

who cant read them teh romanji is right there

[Anonymous No.]

but i mean the kanjis

[Anonymous No.]

>a beginner's guide to ELEMENTARY Japanese
Reading those names isn't elementary

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945353
Oh, that's my bad then haha. I only got like 3 seconds into the vid. But yeah I mean it gives you a shit ton of the foundational grammar, which as hopefully people know, it's the majority of what's used in the language in general. That's why grammar becomes more niche and arbitrary as you get more advanced, because those structures aren't used much.

[Anonymous No.]

what to do after tae kim and adojg?

[Anonymous No.]

use a little deduction

[Anonymous No.]

not genki

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945389
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945385
素晴らしき日々

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945394
but i still cant understand shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945382
but with an elementary english book ud be able to read ppls names upon completion idgi

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945389
btw lmfoa ur fucken toast

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945404
but English isn't Japanese and reading name kanji isn't elementary

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945414
so what ur telling me is.. japanese is bull shit ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945419
はい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945419
someone else said the same thing is this true

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945319
What do you mean awful kanji bs? I've dropped it 3 times due to the romaji than anything

[Anonymous No.]

I started with Genki, would do it again
I went through it quickly though and only did the exercises that had solutions recorded on audio

[Anonymous No.]

tonikaku post bangers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkWkn6TDsEU

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945433
he means it contains kanji. learners should only be focusing on romanji. even natives cant read some of the kanji in genki

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944494
I like it how someone can say "faggots" and be super ultra aggressive and you still accuse them of being me. it makes me feel invisible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945449
maybe u should be like me where ur presence is undeniably felt with each and every post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945460
lol do you want djt to be a nuclear wasteland

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945472
~its all right cuz theres beauty in the breakdown~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CIbBugfqeQ#t=82

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder whether or not people can tell other's posts... As in, is anyone able to point me to any other post I did in this thread? or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944156
pls respond

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945483
this is so bad why did you link it

[Anonymous No.]

honestly if ur not one of the pretty peoples it all runs together

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945485
no-one can tell who anyone is here dont worry!

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>>20945385
read and mine words. you can also mine some of the N1 grammar points on this page that aren't in DoJG:
http://www.jgram.org/pages/viewList.php?lv=1

but after that you definitely need to just read and mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944156
pls

[Anonymous No.]

nobody has ripped all the kanken books i'd do it if i had them but i don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945492
i mean its djt why wouldnt i link it

[Anonymous No.]

someone explain what the point of sentence cards is. how do you choose a sentence to 'mine'? do you pass it when you understand it? whats the point of continuously reviewing sentences you understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945512
You're not me. Unless you happen to also be interested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XCqOM760aI

[Anonymous No.]

the point of sentence cards is to be a huge fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945460
Let's not make DJT shittier than it already is thanks to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945520
whats the point of continuously reviewing words you can read

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945541
dont worry im already experimenting on a new type of post to enhance the flavor

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945546
how are the taste testers receiving it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945319
>thinking kanji is the problem with genki
lolol retardation is hitting new levels around here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945543
i feel like it's a lot easier to forget the meaning of a specific word than it is to forget a sentence you've seen a few times. ur just like "oh yea it was that sentence" based on all the parts rather than actually reading it every time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945549
its too soon to say but they are definitely receiving it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945551
ur already wrong cause vocab cards are for readings you get meanings from reading more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945565
normal world.

[Anonymous No.]

u get meanings from watching 10000 hours of anime with eng subs actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945520
>how do you choose a sentence to 'mine'?
when it has one or two unknown words in it or occasionally when it seems like something that could come in handy and i would maybe want to use myself

>do you pass it when you understand it?
yes

>whats the point of continuously reviewing sentences you understand?
mainly aquiring a sense for how words are correctly used in context, also constantly reviewing these sentences solidifies underlying grammar patterns which might aid you later on in production

[Anonymous No.]

>do genki
>learn how talk about the weather, order a meal at a resuarant, get directions and find your way around a map, talk about your day at the office, how to do your finances, countless phrases that natives never actually use, mostly masu form, two pages on how to bow properly, etc. etc.
>be absolutely no closer to understanding a word in a real book
>can't understand a single thing in anime
>but now you can listen to robotic gaijin phrases
>and you think kanji was the problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945616
>be absolutely no closer to understanding a word in a real book
that's absolutely not true though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945098
here u go i thought of 1 more for u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PuAfv275B8

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJZmA-_0KuM

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944430
I been listening to this all day, thanks for posting it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945620
>t. 5 years in and building a good foundation still

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945623
That's one for my thursday phase haha. Didn't know this one. Thank you very much

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945641
is that yt or are those just the most horrible sounding drums of all time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945663
take a guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-36J50OO1E
man their old music was so good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945616
Genki offers tons of common words and grammatical structures that are used regularly in Japanese. I.e. if you genuinely can't understand anything from a typical Japanese book or anime after completing Genki, it's not Genki's fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945389
nice bait

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>>20945666
good lord if this isnt from like around 15 years ago its completely unacceptable

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945688
9~10 actually
and this is their "last" song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_vHsEv_FS8

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945389
if anything those post will permanently cripple someones ability to read 理 and 野 and is actually really damaging i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945695
ah i see theres a mix and mastering credit that explains it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945701
nah meramipop's autotune is just that good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945671
They've tested it extensively and formal grammar instructions are less than half as effective as having somebody immerse in content. There is absolutely no benefit to that book except baby wants his training wheels mentality.. those books are trying to force things you'll just forget when you could just accidentally pick them up through immersion. Go watch some Krashen dummy.

[Anonymous No.]

>坂
>え
>not さか
People with uncommon readings in their name should be genocided so their shitty family name dies out forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945433
I realize how my post seems now, so that's my bad. what I meant is that the section where it tries to teach you kanji is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

seitarou got pretty good at mastering before
ロー started doing it anyway (at least if the credits i found are to be trusted) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNvjG9v9u2U

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945716
Krashen advocates for comprehensible input. No input is going to be comprehensible if you don't have the tiniest foundation of grammar, which is all that Genki is supposed to be used for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945740
god that sucks so much but i guess thats why its do-jin

its like the rk07 of music

[Anonymous No.]

it's great isn't it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945385
anime with japanese subs
easy manga
gei eroge-mus

[Anonymous No.]

its like every time theres kick drum + palm mute chugs theres just a hard gate closing and opening lmao

[Anonymous No.]

it's great i love it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945716
>Genki doesn't do shit
>actually yeah it can If you use it correctly
>umm I mean it's just not as good as other things
input is definitely the ideal, which Genki offers a good amount of. I'm not saying it's the end all be all for beginners, but if you didn't gain a good foundation from using it you're slow - period.

[Anonymous No.]

textbook reading passages arent input

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945754
Thanks for the tips, man. Any suggestion on VN? I see many suggestion charts in here but it seems like its just a troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945770
>input that I don't like isnt input
nice!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945770
how so? i wouldn't call it ideal input but it is input nonetheless, and for a beginner that really doesn't make a difference

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945762
if only there was a genki book for first good recording and then second good sound production

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945742
How much is genki paying you? You can use this thing called the internet to find out what you don't understand now.
>>20945766
>genki offers a good ammount of input
A total of about 40 pages of japanese in there.
>if you didn't gain a good foundation from using it you're slow
After 6 months of immersion I did genki on a weekend for kicks just to see how the brainlets do things. I thanked god I wasn't stupid enough to start off reading a book 75% in english to learn japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

any of you noggs know of some good podcasts in Japanese? no weeb shit, nothing made for 日本語学習者, and not ひいきびいき (since I already listen to that). just wanting something made for natives

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945742
>No input is going to be comprehensible if you don't have the tiniest foundation of grammar
krashen tries to demonstrate this is not the case

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945812
>How much is genki paying you? You can use this thing called the internet to find out what you don't understand now.
How are you gonna search for anything if you don't have any idea of what anything in a sentence even is? What is a noun, what is a verb, what is a particle? Hell, where do words in a sentence start and begin even, since as a beginner you won't have even be able to identify that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945822
Your brain is a pattern recognizing machine. You'd be surprised I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945819
okay? does he succeed? where? he says you learn by comprehensible input. a sentence isn't going to be comprehensible if you don't comprehend the grammar, among other things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945812
lmao you're full of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945830
You can use context, visuals, what you know about the world to make input comprehensible. Kaufman only looks at grammar guides a little after getting his feet wet with content. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTsduRreug

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945829
>spend months looking at walls of text in a foreign script in which you can't even discern individual words
>spend a day with a grammar guide to show you what archetypal nouns, adjectives and verbs look like and what particles do
yeah i'll take the second option

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>>20945841
>Kaufman only looks at grammar guides a little after getting his feet wet with content.
no he doesn't. first thing he does is read grammar guides, then he dives into native material and continually refers back to the grammar guide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945842
if you consult grammar guides for even basic stuff like that you'll permanently cripple your japanese. we had a kind gentleman prove that fact a few months back on DJT. nobody could refute him or his examples of ESLs who confuse a/an.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945842
>spend a day with a grammar guide
I won't argue with that but there is dudes in here spending months on genki. But I don't know why you keep going back to this notion that there isn't the internet to just look up a phrase and dissect it. It's more fun that way and you'll learn it better.

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone actually argue dont touch any guide at all
the stance always seemed to be dont spend months on genki workbooks
skim tae kim has been standard advice

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945847
>then he dives into native material
also this native material is always lingq's mini stories. he shills it constantly on his livestreams.

[Anonymous No.]

can this dude reevaluate this post now >>20945541 i aint had nothin to do with this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945847
Okay, I may have misremembered. I'm sure that Krashen has advocated for little or no grammar instruction in classes though. Outside of a class if a little grammar helps jump start things I don't see the harm.

[Anonymous No.]

so easy to get the aspies out arguing the minutiae. dunno why you guys are here and not reddit. they love that shit. u can even get some points for doing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945870
>Outside of a class if a little grammar helps jump start things I don't see the harm.
So you're agreeing with the actual contention and the whole discussion was pointless

[Anonymous No.]

finally deleting my "SRS sentence bank" i never used because it's useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945878
reddit still thinks outputting right away and as much as possible is a good way to study

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945841
and you can use a grammar book to do that. also, in many ways a grammar book is the best way to do so, like when you only have a book with a bunch of (incomprehensible) words on it. also appealing to authority isn't helping, it just makes you seem more dogmatic.

[Anonymous No.]

Wareya
>programs
>plays music
>even knows Japanese
Being born with a low IQ fucking sucks. How in the world am I ever going to compete with someone like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945878
Nothing wrong with fleshing out some different opinions, I just hate when it goes for 3 threads and people start busting out spreadsheets and scientific journal reports. But yea it's usually slight differences in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945900
you're not lacking IQ you're lacking motivation and effort

[Anonymous No.]

>俿
I think I've gone too deep

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945899
Heisigians and Krashenites are the most insidious cultists. Matt's followers are so obvious that they get instantly called out but the former two have festered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945888
why aint u mighty morphin mia with that sick card collection

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945907
Motivation and effort are affected by IQ. The reason I'm not as motivated to do those things is that they don't come as easily to me as they do Wareya. That's not to say they "come easy" to him - he and everyone else still have to work hard at them every day for years to git gud. But there's no doubt that they learn faster, and this somewhat eases the pain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945916
>Motivation and effort are affected by IQ.
djt everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945916
>that they don't come as easily to me as they do Wareya
And you know this how, exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945916
>Motivation and effort are affected by IQ.
this is how you cripple yourself
making up bullshit excuses for your laziness

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945911
It's inevitable I feel like, but it is definitely sad to see. And the thing is, I think they have a lot of useful theory to offer. People just take that shit too far sometimes. Matt has known this for some time, as you can see from his most recent ajatt/mia update video. Even that to some extent it's kind of his fault.

[Anonymous No.]

let's be honest. if you were able to do it then you would already be doing it. it's all genetics. the people who are motivated are motivated by their own genetic predisposition for being so.

[Anonymous No.]

OK. Can someone recommend me a VN to start? Something that use simple japanese and do not rely on too casual japanese all the time?
I see those charts here everyday but still not sure if they are meme or real suggestions

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945932
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945916
Dude, I mean this as sincerely as possible, stop with the fucking excuses. you've already lost with the mindset you have. Unless you're actually retarded, the only (or main) thing keeping you to fluency is time and effort, which is manageable if you stop making excuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945777
jamals hentai games chart unironically owns

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945932
straight from the handbook of the eternal dekinai

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945818
nothing can ever approach the level of mbmbam so there isn't any point in listening to any japanese podcast

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945932
>pseudoscience 101

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945955
Mind posting the so called jamal's hentai games chart?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944574
u dont have 2 read the post tho

[Anonymous No.]

Hello I've started watching anime series without subtitles, but not every anime I like is understandable at my level.
For example regarding moe stuff, I couldnt understand shit of yuru yuri, but so far I've been going like wonders with wataten, any other anime that uses a fairly simple japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20943725
sentence cards don’t help you understand/recall better? with the context and all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945968
see >>20944574

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945936
Unironically Leyline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945932
Except that's completely wrong and you're just parroting peterson cult propaganda. How you are nurtured can change your dna expression (epigenetics), your dna goes up and down through out your lifetime depending on your nutrients, exercise/health, psychological factors, and other environmental factors. Abused children have lower IQ's, mal nourished children have lower IQ's, etc. Dna plays a huge role ofc though, but it's not ALL genetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945981
geyline guy literally rage quit japanese bc that shits so trash

defend urself if u dare

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945985
I can't speak to how interesting it'll be for others but 2 and 3 are better than 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945980
Thank you very much

>>20945981
Didn't get what you said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945984
abuse is a man made concept

so is iq

into the trash u go

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945984
so it's environment+genetics. neither of which u can change yourself. enjoy your lot, because that's all you can do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945984
>(epigenetics)
Is considered a joke by intelligence researchers. Along with "growth mindset" and "grit" (grit is just the big 5 personality trait conscientiousness). Environment plays a role in intelligence differences but it has nothing to do with epigenetics. Has little to do with shared (i.e. home/household) environment either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945989
name something not man made

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945985
ur right that its trash but he quit cause hes weak
anyone with a shot at makin it would have dropped it and picked up somethin else
forcin somethin you hate until you quit is another flavor of ankidroning

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945994
99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 and prolly some more 9s% of the stuff in the universe

[Anonymous No.]

btw if ur gonna shit up the thread with iq and genetics plz do it en hiragatana so i dont accidentally read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945985
geyline guy fell for the "just read don't even do a guide" meme and then couldn't understand fucking SHIT and then every time everyone tried to tell him to read some of a fucking guide at least, he absolutely refused any advice.

[Anonymous No.]

also jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946006
nine is a man-made concept

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945993
have u ever come up with an opinion not fed to you by your daddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945987
What's there to get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946017
i know a lil icy ass baka that disagrees with u

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945976
please respond!

[Anonymous No.]

i wonder how quickly i could learn another language now that i know how to go about it efficiently

[Anonymous No.]

btw if ur gonna shit up the thread with iq and genetics just realize u will never compare to mine

>>20946029
try this >>20945442

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946033
you'd pull german in like ten minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946037
i'd actually pull it in 0 seconds

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945993
Epigenetics is a newer scientific field, but it's legitimate. Genomic research is relatively new, but people probably thought atoms and planets were a joke once.

[Anonymous No.]

ull pull in german upon watching this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVGRDPxlS7k#t=23

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946048
Unfortunately, political correctness is holding back western research in to the genetics of intelligence... but this won't stop the Chinese.

[Anonymous No.]

The Chad Wareya: Reads Muramasa effortlessly at a native level while composing music and programming tools to help beginners learn Japanese easier.
The Virgin Dekinai: Posts on DJT for more than 5 hours a week, makes excuses for lack of productivity, blames everything on IQ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946048
>Epigenetics is a newer scientific field, but it's legitimate.
From what I've read they have ways of estimating the impact of epigenetic factors and it's pretty much all bunk, and there's not even a good theoretical catalyst for such effects in humans for complex traits like intelligence. Don't expect much sans some miracle development, which is possible but don't bet on it. But it's an alluring narrative to the politically motivated so it'll continue to rear its ugly head for some time.

[Anonymous No.]

the chad わたし: ゲイ
the virgin わたし: またゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

is this /sci/

[Anonymous No.]

these retards would get eaten alive on sci lol

[Anonymous No.]

yea a bunch of undergrads would murder people citing expert consensus heh sick

[Anonymous No.]

i mean that exact scenario is what goes on here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946072
There are things like the generation of kids born during during famine in world war 2 all have metabolic syndrome, diabetes, and are basically ugly fat people compared to any of the other generations from the region. I don't know too much about the intelligence studies but I did read about adopted kids having 10% higher IQ's than there parents when put into better environments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946096
Those dutch kids gained on IQ but not on the g factor.

[Anonymous No.]

i know what u guys want

[Anonymous No.]

they want to leave djt forever and learn nihongo and ur just pullin em back in with this new trick

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like I don't improve my listening comprehension at all by watching with J-subs, but without them I can't understand fucking anything. How do I fix this hell?

[Anonymous No.]

邪魔するなです

[Anonymous No.]

everybody shut the fuck up uncle jamal is posting pics again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946119
just keep watching without subs. eventually you'll get better. takes hundreds of hours of listening. u need to start now tho

[Anonymous No.]

It's cool how nihonjin know who suiseiseki and ramu are like we know mickey mouse and spiderman. Truly our popular characters are embarassing in comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do the core2k over rtk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946119
sometimes it's hard to gauge whether you're actually improving. we all run into momentary ruts once in a while. (obviously) you have to be focusing, so if you are, but it's kind of 中途半端, then work on it. also, it helps to write down words you've heard multiple times but don't know the meaning to. besides that just keep listening. like I said it can be really hard to see any improvements sometimes; I've experienced this many times. I still have a ways to go with listening comprehension, but I can definitely see the gains I've made from when I felt like I was going nowhere. I can't stress this enough, do NOT resort to subs it you want to train your ear. you just have to accept your current state and believe in the process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946129
But I understand virtually nothing without subs. It makes the entire experience completely unenjoyable, and I can't see how I'm learning anything when understanding nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946139
Slow the playback
Or replay phrases until you can understand them

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946139
>I can't see how I'm learning anything when understanding nothing.
you arent
hope this helps

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946139
>But I understand virtually nothing without subs
This is inevitable! you have to go from 0% to 1% to 2% to 3%... all the way to 100%. just relax. If you do it consistently, you cant not see results.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946119
watch with j-subs hidden
if you don't understand something listen to it multiple times and try to figure out what is said
if you can't figure it out, check the subs
rinse and repeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945900
give up on society, become a hikineet, and loaf around online in your room for a few years. i'm verbally retarded so if i can do it so can you
if you want some motivation read eromanga sensei

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPhwwzx_PTw
it's listening practice time, djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946158
can't fucking believe these dumb fucks use fucking virtual avatars. i just don't get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946158
there's no way people actually listen to this for input

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945976
just watch with japanese subs. watch first 5 minutes of each ep with no subs for pure listening practices, then watch from beginning again with j subs so you can actually pick up new words and understand better.

[meditation girl No.]

>>20946139
i have the advice you need :) load up the audio for one anime episode each day to your mp3 player. listen to it during your commute or other random waiting time.

since you’ve already watched it (even with subs, doesn’t matter), you’ll know what happens and have that context, making your listening skill more receptive and improve quickly.

listening to anime mp3’s for a few months skyrocketed my listening skill. and Drama CDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945510
>all these grammar structures that yomichan et al can't parse
what the fuck? all the grammar constructs that aren't divided by characters in the middle need to be tossed into jmdict, and if they already are, integrated into whatever parser these hover dictionaries use. this is unacceptable.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946197

[Anonymous No.]

I'm reading so slowly. Only getting through ~5 pages of konosuba per hour. I have to look up almost every word and I can't even be bothered to look up grammar. I feel like I'm drowning. Am I gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946166
This is a bad idea. you want to be making the logical connections with your ears. If you make the logical connections with your mind because of subs, you're just building your reading ability, and you will always have to rely on the crutch of subtitles to compensate for your bad listening ability.

[Anonymous No.]

looks like its time for more listening practice djt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q50zYofdXCM
remember to use the subs! it's incomprehensible otherwise!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946271
If you keep at it then yes, eventually. I would suggest rereading each page extensively after going through it intensively, both as a refresher and to enjoy the experience of reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946266
If you keep at it then yes, eventually. I would suggest rereading each page extensively after going through it intensively, both as a refresher and to enjoy the experience of reading.

[Anonymous No.]

Friendly reminder that the most efficient way to boost your listening early on is transcribing compelling content. Make your own japanese subs (just don't bother actually timing them because that's a waste of time wher eyou're not learning anything)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946266
it took me months to get through my first LN but now i can plow through one in a week and if i had time i could probably get through one in a day if i could focus that long.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/HXzrkX3apOk?t=4555

Have you hit the sweet spot he describes here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946306
plot twist. he was talking about the manga

[Anonymous No.]

僕の一番好きな線制は田中線制です

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946306
>>20946313
No, I'm talking about the LN. I'm just terrified I'll be at the same level a month or two from now. I can afford to dedicate between 1-2 hours per day.

[Anonymous No.]

you make the fastest gains by consuming a large variety of kinds of material all the time because it keeps your stress level low and helps you avoid situations where a given writer selectively avoids certain things. finishing things is good but it's in the grand scheme of things that it's good.
speaking of which its still listening practice time djt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWJZWBKdEDQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946324
>I'll be at the same level a month or two from now
if it makes you feel better i was similarly terrified and even after reading other people's testimonies i was still terrified but after like 4 months of reading 1-2 hours a day on top of time spent toward tae kim, dojg, and dolly's videos i improved a lot to the point where although i don't know a lot of words in vns it's much easier to have a gist of what's going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946338
Maybe I should start grinding grammar too then. I got burnt out on the vocab grind so I started reading.

[Anonymous No.]

this is the longest calvin has been gone. i miss him so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946271
did you completely ignore the part where i said watch first 5 minutes of every episode with no subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946303
oh shit i forgot i did this too.
this probably helped way more than watching with japanese subs

except i sometimes transcribed while watching with english subs lol. if i still couldn’t figure out the japanese i’d skip the line. also discovered that english subs often say bullshit the japanese didn’t even say

[Anonymous No.]

man are you guys still doing this well i guess it's still time for listening practice baka djt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIpwoGkvCo

[Anonymous No.]

my company will pay for "self improvement", which includes learning Japanese.
I know everything i need is on the internet, but what is some useful books/materials/ random shit that i can get my company to buy that will be useful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946402
Plane tickets to Tokyo, I suppose would be useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946402
physical copy of handbook of japanese grammar

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946402
Raw manga scans are almost always complete garbage quality, if you can swing importing manga with that money that might be worth it, if reading manga is something you enjoy doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946402
Cure Dolly's Alice in Kanji Land
Jalup beginner through advanced
Patreon support for Matt at the level where he'll answer your questions
Patreon support for Dolly at the Gold Kokeshi level so she'll make a video on any topic you're confused by
A lifetime account at LingQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946402
japanese language entertainment
>>20946452
not this

[Anonymous No.]

Where do you guys download your eroges?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946349
no, but you're missing the point. it doesnt matter how much you watch without subs, if you build connections from audible material with subtitles, you're not training your ear, you're training your reading ability. you would be better off just strictly watching it without subs. the problem is your method doesn't do what you actually think it's doing. you're not going to build your ear if you're relying on text to understand material. it's a guise, and you're inadvertently fucking up how you process and understand Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone tried any dumb shit like watching an english show with jap subs?
i was watching a show when the sub defaulted to jap, left it on for about 5 minutes and turned it off since it was fucking dumb

[Anonymous No.]

unironically just watch shit with english subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946482
If you're going to go this route you might as well watch dubs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946469
>you're not going to build your ear if you're relying on text to understand material. it's a guise, and you're inadvertently fucking up how you process and understand Japanese.
do you have any fucking concrete evidence to this shit or are you matt-tier stabbing in the dark at shit professional linguists don't even fully understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946469
>>it doesnt matter how much you watch without subs

i’m sorry but that genuinely makes no sense.

if i watch a whole episode without subs, and i only understand 70% of it, then i watch again with subs to fill in the rest, it’s not going to erase that 70% i caught on the first listen. it’s not going to do anything to that 70% because i already understood it.

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese subs are a crutch. They're a useful crutch early on, but you need to move on from them or your listening will suffer.

[Anonymous No.]

>look at djt
>still arguing about subs
how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsZHFupcIb8

[Anonymous No.]

if ur subs dont look like this your doing something wrong

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that successfully learning japanese doesn't make you an expert on language acquisition. at best you can just tell other people exactly what you did and at worst you lead other people on and try to scam them. the only thing that seems to be certain is that input is how you get good. everything else, from jamal's 10k english subs to matt's autism routine is just people throwing shit at the wall

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946489
I would ask the same for you. Logical deductions aren't dependent on research to back it up, it's valid in itself (if it's true). Mathematics is true whether or not we can actually write it down and show it.

>>20946497
You misunderstand. I'm not saying the 70% doesn't exist, I'm saying whatever percentage of comprehension comes from subtitles, it doesn't get added to the percentage from listening. I.e. you're wasting your time reading to improve your listening. that's why you'd be better off not using subs at all.

[Anonymous No.]

So my university has free japanese classes, and apparently im in charge of them for the semester. Today is the first one so im going to try to get people into ajatt/mia

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946526
b8

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946526
on that day, anon doomed 30 people to not learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

お嫁に行けない

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946529
You get what you pay for.

[Anonymous No.]

ok it's turn of the hour so im not gonna post any more incomprehensible earcancer yukkuri jikkyou in response to the terrible subs vs no subs argument when it continues. please pretend that i am and act accordingly

[Anonymous No.]

yukkuri jikkyou owns dude fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

they're good that doesn't mean they're not incomprehensible earcancer tho

[Anonymous No.]

どういう風の吹き回しですか

anyone?

[mia discord No.]

>>20946526
I reckon going more broad and just teaching them about Krashen's theories would be a better idea, and then if they actually take those on board, introduce ajatt/mia as methods that extend those theories into practice

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946596
ちゃんと訳すため、もっと文脈が必要だと思う

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946651
自ら子豚ちゃんになりたいと志願するなんて・・・

どういう風の吹き回しですか？ まあ　いいですけど

[Anonymous No.]

一般的にゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946596
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E3%81%A9%E3%81%86%E3%81%84%E3%81%86%E9%A2%A8%E3%81%AE%E5%90%B9%E3%81%8D%E5%9B%9E%E3%81%97%E3%81%8B-579481
i swear to fucking god dude, google is free

[Anonymous No.]

Oreimo is deeply disappointing compared to High School DxD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946687
I'm sure this link is much more helpful.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&tab=TT&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fkotobank.jp%2Fword%2F%E3%81%A9%E3%81%86%E3%81%84%E3%81%86%E9%A2%A8%E3%81%AE%E5%90%B9%E3%81%8D%E5%9B%9E%E3%81%97%E3%81%8B-579481

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946699
https://jisho.org/search/%E3%81%A9%E3%81%86%E3%81%84%E3%81%86%E9%A2%A8%E3%81%AE%E5%90%B9%E3%81%8D%E5%9B%9E%E3%81%97%E3%81%8B
shutcho bitchass up

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946663
I found it on jisho. it has a sort of "what brought this about?" feel to it, but obviously it'll change how it should be properly translated depending on the context. anyways that's all I'm willing to give. hope that's enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946687
Damn! It's not free where I live.
By the way, unfortunately I can't understand the definition.

>>20946699
Well, still...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946707
again
>>20946702
i cordially invite you to shut yo bitchass up

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946704
Yeah it was. Thanks, man. And sorry for taking your time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946714
no worries

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944277
Literally me. I quickly learned that Japanese people don't even use keigo in everyday speech and I couldn't understand the most basic sentences because no one was using keigo

[Anonymous No.]

What do you guys use to track all the raw anime you have watched? I can't decide which service to use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946828
what about using MAL but just writing “RAW” in the comments box for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946845
I'm not asking for something where I can specifically track if something is raw. I'm just wondering who is using which service (mal, anilist, etc). I used to use MAL a long time ago but it seems like their API has been broken for months and all the third party updaters stopped working with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20944970
so whenever you're listing multiple verbs, you list them as tari conjugated the same as the past form, however the tense is not past. The tense is determined by the "suru" that follows, "shita" being past and "shitai" meaning I'd like to and so forth.
Ex.


Ashita, watashi wa Tabetari, Eiga o Mitari, Nondari suru
明日私 わ 食べたり 映画 を 見たり 飲んだり する


As " Tomorrow, I will Eat, watch a movie, and drink"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946523
what do you think of
1. watching with subtitles super small, NOT paying attention to them
2. when you don’t understand something, THEN going to the subs to look for & define any words you didn’t know, and then listening to that part again without looking at the subs

there has to be a difference between that and reading the subs the whole time you’re watching

[Anonymous No.]

>殺人
I always thought this meant murderer, fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946889
That's 殺人者

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw they say the 日本語 is上手 but it's not really 上手
>mfw at ファミリーマート, ポカリスエットを買っている
>"ありがと" て 言うた
> "日本語 上手 です ね"
>tfw

[Anonymous No.]

君はあたしの大切な人なの

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946063
we are living in a thread of dekinai

[Anonymous No.]

>>20945247
How dare you call Matsuko Deluxe trash

[Anonymous No.]

>been studying for like a year, 80% kanji, 20% reading
>played a VN
>get through the first few screens easily
Alright, time to pack up and go live in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

凹凸
凸凹
fuck this language

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946951
lol that shits annoying
i only take it seriously when i’ve said more than like 3 sentences and they say 「すごい、日本語本当に上手いですね」

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947027
Those two are the only motherfuckers like that I swear. Why they are always in the beginning of Kanji textbooks I don't know. You learn them first and then never use them

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947022
Kanji and reading are the best way. Romaji is the worst curse you could inflict upon yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947044
Yeah, as a completely normal person I'd love it if the Japanese shopkeeper (preferably a lady) would snidely say my Japanese sucks, perhaps while looking as if she's looking at a piece of trash.

I can't even construct a decent enough insulting Japanese sentence, that' show bad I am. Why can't I find a Japanese Lady to scold my bad skills

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947045
>Why they are always in the beginning of Kanji textbooks I don't know
I figure it's because it's like two of the very few kanji whose shapes tell you their meaning.

Actually I can't think of any other kanji whose pure typological structure, without going to radicals, tell you their meanings. I guess 一二三.

[Anonymous No.]

>author:*writes a word using a different kanji"
>me:

[Anonymous No.]

everyday we stray closer to tumblr

[Anonymous No.]

i'm only responding because once i spent a minute or two having to fucking look up 樹 (google was refusing my handwriting) and when i found out it was just fucking 木 i was mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946166
>>20946497
>>20946271
>>20946489
>>20946866
yeah but, any anime with kinda easy japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947086
A program called ZKanji allows you to search kanji using Heisig's keywords. Makes me regret that one month I spend running through an RTK deck less.

[Anonymous No.]

whats the meaning of マトモ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947054
This would be great if she mixed in the appropriate way to construct what you were trying to convey whilst denigrating you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946519
Jamal doesn’t know Japanese though. And hasn’t read the VNs on his shitty chart. This is a proven fact. Jamal and imitators really are just a collection of stupid people not learning Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947118
Losers prefer findom or femdom, but true gentlemen prefer langdom, where the 王 shows you just how lousy you are at making those words out of your mouth

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947087
Apparently the language in Nichijou is more representative of how Japanese people talk in real life and is fairly easy to understand. Most anime is not going to be 100% what real life people sound like, since they are cartoons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947116
>まとも

じょうしきてきな○○とか

わるくない○○とか

そういうかんじ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947129
that i think i get it

[Anonymous No.]

>that
i meant thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947121
thought you quit this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946951
most of the famima employees are filipinos or mongolians in tokyo, and the nips would never say shit to you. if this is tru u must be in mad inaka shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947087
ドラえもん ＊＊＊ めっちゃ簡単だけど面白い
しろくまカフェ
三つ星カラーズ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947127
日常 is not easy lol. maybe the words are but they talk fast as fuck and scream frequently making things hard to understand.

[Anonymous No.]

かんたんなアニメといえば

苺ましまろ

[Anonymous No.]

At least one word makes sense. 日曜日

[Anonymous No.]

>>20946489
i dont have any evidence but i personally never watched any anime & shit without subs and my reading was at an n1+ level but i couldnt hear a fuckin thing without subs. took me about 3-500 hours of pure listening practice to even start to understand shit properly after i realised my brain was just reading the subs and not actually listening properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947195
sun day of the week day

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947195
nichiyouhi

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947195
What about 月曜日?
Mo(o)nday

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947196
this is very hard to believe dude.

also did you ever do transcription listening practice or was it all just purely listening to media without any specific task.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947183
>filipinos or mongolians
and there are Indians in 7 Eleven, but it's not -that- country really

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947191
ねそでしょう？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947206
lol why would I lie about my shit listening skills online. no I just watched anime and shit with subs and I could comprehend 90% of it but I was completely unwilling to turn the subs off because my comprehension went to like 5% without subs and I'd instantly be lost. I had to force myself through like hundreds of hours of no comprehension at all just with raw listening and I'm still not close to the level I'm at with subs on but at least like 90% comprehension now and I can at least hear everything without being confused about what sound they said

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947185
>めっちゃ
ベリベリ….

[Anonymous No.]

The more I read I more I don't get what 上がるmeans

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947223
there's a reason God invented dictionaries

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947218
>I had to force myself through like hundreds of hours of no comprehension at all just with raw listening and I'm still not close to the level I'm at with subs on but at least like 90% comprehension now and I can at least hear everything without being confused about what sound they said
How did you do this? Did you rewind and relisten to each sentence until you understood it? Did you transcribe? Did you just watch episodes full speed for hundreds of hours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947229
just watched full speed for hundreds of hours until it started to sink in. I already knew I understood what they were saying if I read it so I figured it was just a matter of time before my brain was able to parse the sounds properly, and I was right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947223
This and かける are my nightmares

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947223
>>20947226
1. to rise; to go up; to come up; to ascend; to be raised​ Antonym: 下がる
2. to enter (esp. from outdoors); to come in; to go in​
3. to enter (a school); to advance to the next grade​
4. to get out (of water); to come ashore​
5. to increase​ also written as 騰る in ref. to price
6. to improve; to make progress​
7. to be promoted; to advance​
8. to be made (of profit, etc.)​
9. to occur (esp. of a favourable result)​
10. to be adequate (to cover expenses, etc.)​ often as 〜で上がる
11. to be finished; to be done; to be over​
12. (of rain) to stop; to lift​
13. to stop (working properly); to cut out; to give out; to die​
14. to win (in a card game, etc.)​
15. to be arrested​ Only applies to 挙がる
16. to turn up (of evidence, etc.) ​Only applies to 挙がる
17. to be deep fried​ Only applies to 揚がる
18. to be spoken loudly​
19. to get stage fright​
20. to be offered (to the gods, etc.)​
21. to go; to visit​Humble (kenjougo)
22. to eat; to drink​Honorific or respectful (sonkeigo)
23. to be listed (as a candidate)​esp. 挙がる
24. to serve (in one's master's home)​
25. to go north​in Kyoto
26. to be complete; to finish ​See also 出来上がる, after the -masu

I can't complain about this myself though, because I still need to figure out what に means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pahBB0uCeDg

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947277
からあげたべたい

からっとあげたてがいい

[Anonymous No.]

Are any of you 変人ですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947386
No, the people with a zealous dedication to avoiding the Shift key are completely normal.

[Anonymous No.]

i actually use caps lock and shift to type all my posts

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you find out that "suru" (する) and "dekiru" (できる) are the same verb
素晴らしい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947562
相変わらずDJTたちはまるでできないなんだぜ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947314
I don't think it would help desu, I could easily transcribe everything and understand if I listen multiple times but my brain just needs to get used to parsing the sentences in real time so obviously the best way to do it is just to listen a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947601
By transcribing you train your brain to listen closely to the language, you gain pretty noticeable speed increases in transcribing in a fairly short amount of time, which comes with improvements to your ability to hear the words properly much faster than just sitting there and hoping to eventually hear things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947623
you didn't even believe what I was saying was true originally so you obviously have no idea what actually works lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947631
You do know there are more people in this thread than just you and one other guy, right? I never once expressed doubt at what you said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947636
either way this entire thread is just people who don't actually know what they're talking about this giving advice based on common sense logic that may or may not actually apply. saying shit like "this will definitely increase your rate!" is pointless. all I know is my personal experience disproves what the original poster was saying so I don't trust his ideas

[Anonymous No.]

Here we go, boys and gyarus. I was looking forward to being done with Core 6k for a long time because I wanted to mine vocab from VNs, LNs and games, but recently I realised that grinding vocab lists in Anki is the thing I enjoy the most about learning Japanese. I don't even like Japanese media.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20947701
get on that core10k my nibba

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>>20947701
well, as long as you're having fun

[Anonymous No.]

ふゆのあめがぱらついてきた

あんまりさむくないから

はるのあめなのかもしれない

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>>20946866
just use the voracious video player.

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>>20947121
https://streamable.com/w529u

>>20946519
the 10k hours of eng subs isnt exactly me throwing shit against the wall tho

thats where it all started and i always said not 2 take the number that seriously

i also got other types of input during that time but anime w. eng subs was the majority of it

but like i said a billion times ur not gonna learn japanese functionally from just that but its gonna put u in position to have the actual learning part be much easier when u do wade out into the depths of epic nihongo

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>>20946866
that and strictly watching while paying attention to the subs is different yes, but any logical connections you make from looking stuff up with and reading the subs isn't being added to your listening comprehension; it doesn't matter how different what you're describing is, because if you aren't drawing the connections from listening you're not improving your listening. listening to a part again you already know the meaning to because you looked it up can't help your hearing.

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>>20947562
you may have simply misspoke, but they're not. maybe (hopefully) what you were trying to say is that できる is a form of する. if that's what you meant, then no worries, but if not, then you're wrong - and its important to know the difference.

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so if i say like "somethingしてできる"

im using a verb + another form of the same verb together ?? this makes no sense logically 2 explain it that way 2 me (i dont study grammar cuz its gay btw)

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>>20948081
みてみる ?

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>>20948081
置いておいて

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>>20948099
verb the same verb ?? does not computer

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>>20948118
>verb the same verb
u got it now

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>>20946864
there was only one verb and there was no suru/shite/shiro/shiyou

[Anonymous No.]

おなかすいた

はるさめたべたい

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>>20948132
i dont got shit dude this language is bollocks

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>>20948081
Japanese verbs, like most languages, have multiple forms

する (dictionary, plain present)
できる (plain potential)
して (te-form)
させる (plain causative)
される (plain passive)
させられる ( plain passive causative)
しろ (imperative)

all the verbs below する are different forms of する

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>>20948137
Even when used by itself, it still has the nuance of explaining a list of things, as the list is not all inclusive.

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>>20948137
if u want to ask for more help post ur degenerate sentence
>>20948147
at least u know its equally bollocks to eigo

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>>20948153
right im asking how does it logically make sense that u would put 2 forms of suru together why cant u just accomplish it with 1 ??

why do we need to double do everything

[Anonymous No.]

i bet this is related to those stupid bull shit onomatopoeias too japanese is fuckin retarded

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>>20948160
there have been multiple times where i encounter two similar words being simultaenously used to express something in a sentence that i felt could be expressed with only one of them but that's just how language is. arbitrary nonsense.

like when i see ただ[word]だけ. like wtf?

[Anonymous No.]

hurr durr u gotta read between the lines while every物 that we say is fuckin redundant物s durrrfffhhhh

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>>20948160
can u say verb a verb with 1

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>>20948160
it depends on the context. I would need an actual example to dissect it, as opposed to your random してできる contraption.

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>>20948177
ただ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qdxfJIz4E

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>>20948160
してできる probably means something like "do (and something comes about as a result)"

here's a sentence from alc that expresses this

AとBが交差してできる角
angle formed by the intersection of A with B

im not entirely sure if the できる of creation is the same as the できる potential of suru tho

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>>20948200
idk he seems like hes asking a genuine question this time b/c i know hes not hip to all the grammar jive (is this how the blacks speak jamal?)

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>>20948200
u dont have to alert the press just respond with ur own joke and let everybody do their own thing

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>>20948193
so if i say this threadを終了してできない why logically do i need to say verb the negative verb

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a teacher ended a sentence with もの and it freaked me out because i had no idea why the もの was there but then i remembered that もの can refer to a command and the sentence made complete sense. but it makes me sad knowing there's all sorts of constructs whose meanings i've learned but there's so much to take in that i often forget them in the moment while reading. so then sentences that could make sense don't make sense. god fuck me this is hard.

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>>20948211
who says you need to?

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>>20948215
i mean i can say 終了することはできない but how does the former logically make sense if u explain the grammar

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>>20948211
cuz u nominalize the act of suring a syuuryoo
u wouldnt say kono sure over cant
u gotta at least say kono sure overing cant

[Anonymous No.]

misa has so much makeup caked on. yeesh.

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>>20948211
it doesnt really make sense tho by itself. because the できない has to be referring to something separate from the 終了する, like if you were saying "i can't reply to the post because the thread has ended" something like 終了してできない would be suitable

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>>20948237
can someone confirm or deny

[Anonymous No.]

i'm N6 so i aint confirming shit

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>>20948212
>but then i remembered that もの can refer to a command
is that actually a thing

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>>20948227
so like if we say みんなに日本語を教える前にthis threadを終了してできない wait what he fuck is japanese like that drm that scrambles manga pages or whatever ??? wtf ????

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also forgot to quote this guy in that post >>20948237

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>>20948262
well all languages are just different forms of drm for mentalese

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>>20948260
maybe it just means "should" but in certain contexts it denotes a command. i read that somewhere in a grammar guide or am i going crazy.

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>>20948260
it's not really a strict command. it's more like a social rule, something that one would expect to be done.

（イ）なすべきこと。「そんな時は何も聞かずにいてあげるものだ」

女性に年を聞くものじゃないですよ。

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>>20948278
>>20948277
that makes sense, thank you

[Anonymous No.]

もの guys

its a thing

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>>20948272
mental what now

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anyway so what ur tryin to tell me is even tho theres forms of the same verb bumpin and grinding on each other they r actually performing their function on things elsehwere ?? what the fuck sense does that make

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>>20948262
i dont really understand the second half of ur post if im being honest but i believe that what you said is grammatically accurate japanese with the meaning u intended (altho most likely unnatural obv)

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isn't mono just some meaningless shit women add to their speech at random

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>>20948296
it means thought but it was given a cool name that makes it sound like a natural language so that u can grasp it

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>>20948228
I will Korosu you if you talk badly about Sensei

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>>20948308
no it has various meanings

（１）〜が当然だ・一般的だ・軽い命令　-「悪いことをしたら謝るもんだ。」
（２）過去の思い出 -「若い頃はよく親に反抗したものだ。」
（３）感心、感嘆、等、しみじみとした深い気持ちを表す　-「日本へ来てもう一年になる。時がたつのは本当に早いものだ。」

and that's just ものだ・ではない, there's also a lot of other distinct grammatical points involving mono (ないものだろうか・ものか・ものがある・ものだから・ものなら・ものの・ようものなら)

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>>20948343
better than reading shit and just thinking もの is a filler lmao. enjoy ur nihongo fantasyland. its like a pick ur own adventure book for a whole language

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>>20948315
why would u say korositeyaru instead of just i will korosu u

japanese is so stupid

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>>20948357
arisu in monoland lol

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>>20948361
mirai ni watasi ga korosu, anata wo

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>>20948371

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>>20948225
you're still assuming the former does. why do you assume it does? prove it does, and then show actual native sentences (with links to the sentences) using that grammatical structure so we can dissect it. you're going at this from the wrong angle completely

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>>20948400
aligatou watasi ga usotuki watasi ga korosu watasi wo

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>>20948408
i mean it really shouldnt be hard to explain して + できる as being together if ur a grammar wizard plus ive already progressed from there to a new quandary in this post >>20948262

anyway ur post reminded me of the shoutouts here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaykIS3UISs#t=233

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>>20948439
できないやつ

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>>20948422
maaaaa ikka

>>20948450
jibunno hanashibakari suruyatsu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948527
もっと泣いて

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948541
namida ga denainyu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948565
>ローマ字で書くこと
あっ、できないやつだね

[Anonymous No.]

あっ わたしはゲイだね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948584
そうなんだ

[Anonymous No.]

そうなのさ

[Anonymous No.]

そーなのかー

[Anonymous No.]

やっぱりね俺はとんかつが大好きなんだ

[Anonymous No.]

roomaji no you ga akuseshiburuna shi sono mono dekinaitachi ga yonde dekiru shi hiragana no you ga egoisutikku wa

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>>20948609
できないやつお前は

[Anonymous No.]

良い song quote desune lokl

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>>20943211
how do i learn japanese from scratch for real ?

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>>20948617
watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime and then come back and take part in the exciting hanashis with fuckin nooblet mother fuckers

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>>20948617
depends on how far you want to go.

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>>20948617
俺のketuをちょいscratchしませんか

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>>20948625
なにthe fuck dude

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>>20948624
i want to be able to watch anime and read manga without any problems. Also seinen manga, those with difficult words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948617
meditate

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>>20948639
read the guide and start studying

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>>20948641
dang congrats on being the retard who hung himself on something retarded

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>>20948639
1. learn all the 常用漢字 (everyday kanji) plus at least 1000 more
2. listen to a lot of Japanese content without subs. there are a lot of people who will meme you and try to convince you to watch with subs, but it doesn't help your listening ability (which will take a lot of listening to properly acquire).
3. sentence mine

looking at some beginner grammar in the beginning after you learn kanji is always good to so you're not completely in the sea without a life jacket.

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>>20948613
sou da yo ne demo dekinaitachi mo aru dakara yasashikute kaite hou mo ii

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>>20948644
Does it reall work, Matt?

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>>20948662
look another retard who doesnt know what hes talking about epic

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>>20948662
baka

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>>20948651
I don't want to use Anki, it's lame

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>>20948668
>damn, Matt was right when he said outputting before you actually have any skill in the language is bad

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>>20948641
ketu is a legit romanization

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>>20948669
dang congrats on being literally every1 in this op

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jketnyClynQ

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>>20948672
you don't have to
i would argue it makes things easier but you can just omit it

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>>20948675
>not realizing that that's actually a problem

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>>20948662
1.But people told me it's useless doing RTK/KKLC, because you must study vocabs.
2.I tried, but it's useless, unless you suggest me some program for children
3.Anki is evil

Shouldn't I learn grammar first and then, on a second phase, mine vocab ?

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>>20948684
i read that as mucus at first

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>>20946850
I use anidb because it highlights roles for animes ive seen when i look at va pages so i can easwilyh figure out "where did i hrear this dude before"

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>>20948680
what u tryin to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948684
必ずできる

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>>20948685
>doesn't want to use anki
>mining vocab
do you know what mining vocab means

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>>20948690
I mean, mine without anki, Using a notepad

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>>20948685
just quit now, you're never going to make it, do something useful with your time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948690
u can mine them to notepad the point of mining isnt to learn its to make a sick collection thats the one thing ive learned from this thread

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>>20948685
You know you're not actually supposed to listen to djt, right? Doing RTK doesn't mean that you will never learn vocab, obviously watching anime when you don't know anything isn't going to do much, and Anki is a great tool for learning.

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>>20948697
but i want to

[Anonymous No.]

doing rtgay means ur retarded and wont realize it till later after uve already wasted a substantial amount of time

watching anime might not teach u japanese and u might fuckin not even pay attention to the audio and thus pick up nothing but still at least u watched anime thats the important thing even if ur still a retarded

anki is a great tool for sending to your septic tank or local sewage system

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>>20948703
>Doing RTK doesn't mean that you will never learn vocab
remains to be seen

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>>20948703
Finally an honest anon

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>>20948716
>undoubtedly be able to read more kanji

nope nope opneobnjfghdfnm ope

u will only be able to remember more kanji than other ppl who did not do rtgay

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>>20948706
>anki is a great tool for sending to your septic tank or local sewage system
if they find out ur the reason the whole neighborhood backed up ur gonna owe a lot of money

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>>20948719
わからないやつ

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>>20948720
nah its septic safe dude thats what it was made for

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>>20948716
>you will undoubtedly be able to read more kanji than other people
why u fuckers have so much conviction in ur conspiracy theories

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>>20948727
>what are results

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>>20948723
また自分の話かよ

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>>20948725
i dont believe u its too big a load of shit for those pipes
>>20948732
while im talkin about flushin shit what are u tryin to say here

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>>20948737
皮肉なことだね

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>>20948732
>posts no results

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>>20948732
what results are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

I'm trying to wrap my head around this sentence: こちらに奇襲をかけてくるわけでもなく　あっさりと発見される
Is it saying something along the lines of, 'Not only are they not ambushing us, we can spot them so easily.'?

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go ahead and do rtk, just remember when you're inevitably going to quit after days of boredom that you can learn japanese just fine without it

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>>20948751
yes, you can learn japanese just fine taking twice as long to be able to read what you want. 頑張れ

[Anonymous No.]

lets consider the facts

ppl have come in here and literally said they did rtgay and it did nothing for them in terms of japanese

meanwhile everyone every single mother fuck with extensive background in eng subbed anime has said wow this did a lot for me for sure

if u need more proof this will always be here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=12

listen once then click cc button and listen again and watch the nihongo pop out before ur ears like 1 of those magic eye puzzles but like for ur ears i guess or w/e

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>>20948756
do you have any evidence for that claim?

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>>20948764
>start with false premise
できないやつ

[Anonymous No.]

3 months of learning to write 2200 kanji and learn their meaning while being unable to read is better than 3 months of learning the english meaning + reading of 1000 kanji (lowball estimate) while being able to actually read?

that sounds pretty subjective to me. but i'll bet most people would prefer being able to read a bit after 3 months than not. so that's why i don't think RTK is a good idea even if you can argue there are hypothetical longterm benefits to doing RTK as a beginner.

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>>20948777
obviously how agreeable it is is subjective. if you don't want the best results in the fastest amount of time, fine. just don't act like there's a better alternative.

[Anonymous No.]

why are we worried about the speedrun when no ones even finished the game yet

[Anonymous No.]

btw if i was rk07 i woulda wrote "the game" in katakana or with a bunch of dots over it or in katakana with a bunch of dots over it

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>>20948783
i still don't grant that RTK is more efficient. it's just a theory. but i don't think most people want the best results in the fastest amount of time because it would be too difficult. for example you would improve faster getting 400 hours of input across 33 days than across 365 days. but most people cannot force themselves to do that. so it's largely a worthless suggestion.

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>>20948767
>>20948783
i did rtk and my anecdote is better than urs so dont u start with me boy

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>>20948750
theyre saying they know full well theres a 出撃 otw

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>>20948798
>it's just a theory
just because it's a theory doesn't mean that if executed to the best degree, in comparison with other theories executed to the best degree, that it's not better than the other theories.
>so it's largely a worthless suggestion
this is a problem of the individual themselves, not the theory. plenty of people don't think it to be "too hard". That's not a lack of efficiency in the method it's a lack of character, in potentially many different ways, of the one doing the method.

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>>20948820
but I also grant that some people likely don't have the time, but again this stems from their personal life, not the method itself. and in those cases sure, don't do rtk, there's nothing wrong with that.

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>>20948820
>just because it's a theory doesn't mean that if executed to the best degree, in comparison with other theories executed to the best degree, that it's not better than the other theories.
it also doesn't mean that it's necessarily better than other theories

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>>20948793
Context is that they spotted two enemies just standing in a forest that can be easily used to set up an ambush.

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>>20948820
>just because it's a theory doesn't mean that if executed to the best degree, in comparison with other theories executed to the best degree, that it's not better than the other theories.
also doesnt mean that it is which is ur prob here

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>>20948820
>just because it's a theory doesn't mean that if executed to the best degree, in comparison with other theories executed to the best degree, that it's not better than the other theories.
what are you even trying to say? it means that i don't know whether or not it's more efficient. it's just a theory. there's no backing to its efficiency.
>this is a problem of the individual themselves
semantics. hypothetically if no individual can put a theory into practice toward achieving some goal then it's a worthless theory.

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>>20948839
Okay then, maybe I read too much into it. It's just saying that the enemies could have set up an ambush but didn't and thus were detected easily.

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>>20948838
>>20948840
that's fair, but in the long run I would contend it's hard to argue it's not the best. unless there are other methods people want to bring to the table and compare

>>20948842
>hypothetically if no individual can put a theory into practice toward achieving some goal then it's a worthless theory.
plenty of people do and have put it into practice though so this point is moot

[Anonymous No.]

linkin park - hybrid theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lnJ79dzXD8&list=PLSZnrWBCBT3ng1xEWEkXC91StoZjD8BP3

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948856
>that's fair, but in the long run I would contend it's hard to argue it's not the best.
based on what

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948758
I'm really starting to like Jin Dogg...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948863
the results dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948856
>I would contend it's hard to argue it's not the best.
how fucked r u when u encounter a word with a kanji u havent rtkd
not very innit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948863
the amount of time it takes, if done properly, to be able to read kanji

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>>20948856
>plenty of people do and have put it into practice though so this point is moot
hence i said "hypothetically". i already addressed this several posts earlier. the vast majority of people can't force themselves to finish RTK. my point is that you talk about what's the most efficient but most people do not value efficiency.

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>>20948883
i did it so i know how much effort it takes, particularly if you want to get it done within a few months rather than a year or two.

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>>20948888
but i just did galaxy brain by reading compelling content

maybe this what it means to go beyond a galaxy brain ?

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>>20948879
that's fine, we're making different points. I contend most people value efficiency. my point is that if you do, and you have the time for it, I contend that it's the most efficient.

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>>20948903
>I contend that it's the most efficient.
how do you know this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948888
>omeganou: learn nihongoto fluency then learn to write some knagxi or kotabos u feel likeand never waste any time on rtk

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948906
he just feels it man

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>>20948903
>I contend most people value efficiency
That explains all the posts on /r/learnjapanese where people spend 30 minutes a day reading Genki 1+2 for years rather than spending all their free time on textbook study and reading native material.

>I contend that it's the most efficient.
You've yet to give evidence for this.

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>>20948888
haha le ebin reddit meme xD take my upboat!! man i gotta tell my wifes son about this he'll love it!

[Anonymous No.]

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>>20948906
>>20948917
it just "makes sense". idk how to explain it. bulk learning characters attached to boring and meaningless stories is just more efficient than attaching those characters to japanese words you encounter while reading compelling content.

it's just....idk. you either get it or you don't and it seems djt doesn't get it. i think i'll follow actual experts in japanese like heisig. you guys can follow jamal or whomever.

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>>20948932
>it just "makes sense"
we're done here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948918
in his defense the genkidrones think what theyre doing is efficient
why would u get in the pool before u read about how to float for 3 years thats just obvious what if u died that wouldnt be efficient at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948932
if this is bait it wasnt very clever but if it was geniune ur a fuckin genius and i hope u continue to argue about beginner learning methods for years to come

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>>20948939
Some do, some don't. People actually really hate consuming native material when starting out for whatever reason. Moreover the daily time spent toward studying is important. If someone is only spending 30 minutes of their free time a day that indicates they don't value efficiency that much.

Which is fine. That's most people. Not even AJATT cultists actually value efficiency above all else.

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>>20948888
How is that even supposed to work? How does learning 黒 as くろ instead of black make you fly like the wind? Is it something about the shapes that suggests those sounds? That would be one hell of a coincidence because that character is from a completely different language.

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>>20948918
>You've yet to give evidence for this.
It's mostly from a theoretical perspective that I hold this view, though seeing is believing, but show me another method that's theoretically better and we can duke it out how it's actually not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948956
It works for people with a brain that's not smaller than half a peanut.

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>>20948956
well u can learn reading components from the rtk book even most rtk drones skip but u coudl also download the based sound sisters deck or if ur really clever u could just fuckin read more and learn it on accident

[Anonymous No.]

kanji comes really easy when u know japanese

its crazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948956
You shouldn't be learning 黒 as black or くろ
But as a rindows computer on fire

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948980
tryin to tell em but they dont listen any tips

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948956
black is a bad example because it's very unambiguous
take "exquisite"
you could for instance put ぜつみょう next to the keyword and since i already know what 絶妙 roughly looks like it's much easier to recall 妙 and the corresponding story

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948981
>you can't simultaneously learn 黒 as black and that it's made up of 里 and fire

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948990
see the rtk guy is confusin minna so much with his bullshit that they cant even recognize a fuckin joke anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948967
There's no point. It's all theoretical. I could say feeling the kanji in braille while pissing an outline of the kanji into the toilet is initially more time consuming than writing kanji out on paper but that the novelty of this method will cement it further in your mind, making it more efficient than mere RTK, and I could give hypothetical ass-pull reasons to strike down any doubts you express. That's basically what RTK cultists do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948981
haha i remember that koohii mnemonic

[Anonymous No.]

>70g box of Pocky
Breakfast of champions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949003
>pissing an outline of the kanji
shit thats an easy way to get a few extra reps a day thanks
might need to learn kusasho first

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949014
Breaktfast of fatfucks*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949018
>not tracing out kanji with your tongue on your 嫁's clit
Not going to make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949003
results speak for themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>20948997
できない

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949051
That's why it'd be really nice if you could show me some sort of study comparing people who did and didn't do RTK with all sorts of other variables controlled for. But somehow I don't think you have that kind of information.

[Anonymous No.]

More importantly, people here actually enjoys that creepy shit that is dolly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949051
>i did something and it wasnt such a complete and tragic failure that i learned nothing at all
>that proves that it is more efficient than something i did not do

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>>20949067
>enjoy
no but her grammar videos are good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949051
>results speak for themselves
except said results simply don't exist because there has never been any study that compares RTK-takers to everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949067
only ntr enjoys it but its one of the few resources that doesnt go to genki tier gaijin grammar explanations
u could also read wikipedia but most of the shit that isnt gaijin shit is only on japanese wiki so gambare

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>>20949067
Only one person but that person happens to be responsible for at least half the posts on these threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949073
But is it much better than misa or that asian looking guy that I forgot his name, that you can deal with that terrible audio and pronunciation?
Asking for real, not trying to be a troll or anything

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>>20949083
she explains grammar from a japanese perspective which misa and the other slant eye doesn't.

[Anonymous No.]

guys its "enjoyed" in past tense i enjoyed dolly chan

but now shes crammed into my toy box with all the other toys i dont play with anymore

[Anonymous No.]

btw i didnt post anywhere near half the posts in this thread ur still trippin dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949085
>gaijin monkey pretending to be a little girl
>japanese perspective
Choose one

[Anonymous No.]

i think 5 ppl is more reasonable

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949099
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949099
dont really have much social interaction apart from this and i like arguing with ppl on the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949098
i dont think u know what he meant by japanese perspective so pipe down

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949099
this >>20949106

[Anonymous No.]

i have over 60 posts in this thread holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949094
right, this was a bad lower bound I'll give you that
it's more akin to at least 3/4ths
also lowercase posting accounts for a wobbling 10000% of all shitposts in these threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949107
I'm going to shove a pipe down your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

i dont think i posted much in the first half of this thread and some of the middle but i do have 66 yous

can anyone beat that ?

also heres ur daily dose of japanese perspective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE0cVhQdh30

[Anonymous No.]

how do i check my you count

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949094
>>20949099
お前が大嫌い

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949074
>>20949064
look at any rtk-er who's actually done it vs someone who hasn't. now go in a room and cry because you're a 漢字を読めない負け犬

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>>20949118
i have 103.

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>>20949129
nvm im retarded (i wont count this 1)

it's 22 altho i posted on mobile too so ill give myself another 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949132
wow u fuckin post all DAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949131
if u want a sick own try using kanji that a young child doesnt know
>>20949132
ohly sHIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949135
yea

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949064
i was considering doing this as my undergrad linguistics dissertation but i was too lazy cause it's a lot of work and u cant rely on ppl to do what theyre supposed to

[Anonymous No.]

*pushes up glasses whilst grinning*

posting (You) to throw off everyones you counts lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949144 (You)

[Anonymous No.]

*pushes up glasses whilst grinning*
f12 and ctrl+f ql-tracked

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>>20949140
Literally impossible to do. Half the people who do "RTK" these days just use the stolen nihongoshark deck which is the exact opposite of RTK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949131
I find it pretty ironic that of ALL posters the RTKtard has to be the one making the dumbest grammar mistakes
But keep going and call me out on my supposed inability to read Kanji in broken Japanese all you want, at the very least you'll get a smile out of anyone who isn't a complete and utter beginner such as yourself :)

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>>20949136
the fact that you're a 漢字を読めない負け犬 is ownage enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949151
shut up nerd

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949153
Good thing people have finally realised RTK is a scam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949164
i bet u cant even read 残念

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949161
the irony is that you think there's a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949175
bet you I can

[Anonymous No.]

it is technically not an error but 漢字読めない is significantly preferable in this particular phrase

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949176
Keep believing there isn't all you want, your Japanese is so crippled that even the children you'll never have won't be able to learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949185
空気読めない…

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949192
>grrr you're wrong but I can't actually prove it.
stay mad 漢字を読めない負け犬

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949185
>significantly preferable
under what objective premise?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949185
if anything 漢字が読めない is generally preferable

[Anonymous No.]

really brings me back to when i only knew one sentence
my one sentence was これはぺんです though so maybe rtk is real

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949221
preference to not use を for potential verbs in relative clauses or negative statements
>>20949224
i mean yeah i just don't want to confuse them into thinking using の is better than を through proxy of が

[Anonymous No.]

wow musical particles anyone ??

[Anonymous No.]

It is. Extremely so, in fact, very tough to last more than an hour or two through a story-heavy game or VN in one sitting. I've passed N1 by a comfortable margin a few years back, but reading content aimed at natives still feels exhausting.

I suspect that it is partly self-inflicted, due to myself being unwilling to settle for "yeah, I understand 90% of the text and can kinda infer the meaning of another 5%, so I will just sit back and enjoy the game" - I interrupt the gameplay flow frequenty and look up stuff obsessively, until I understand everything.

Just for context: I'm ESL, but I've never felt anything similar when interacting with content written in English, it just doesn't tire me at all. Obviously, my English is still much stronger than my Japanese, but it's still peculiar.

[Anonymous No.]

漢字知らん

[Anonymous No.]

re: reddit repost: read more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949230
preference is subjective. if the goal is to sound like a native, and you can say x and sound like a native, it doesn't matter if more people prefer y over x

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949236
It might be experience. I live in Japan, am rubbish at kanji so am far from N1, but I can watch Japanese movies or chat all day without getting tired. I feel like my ‘Japanese muscles’ are very strong, even though my vocabulary is poor.

Maybe you’ve just spent more time with English?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949254
it matters if you can't form anything but stock phrases without accidentally using something that implies a certain attitude you don't have

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949254
but a native would never say x in this case it sounds retarded

[Anonymous No.]

釣られた

[Anonymous No.]

so guys whats the verdict

わたしはゲイ
わたしがゲイ
わたしにゲイ
わたしをゲイ
わたしでゲイ
わたしゐゲイ

which is properest

[Anonymous No.]

if u get exhausted reading nihongo and its not cause ur refusin to drop somethin thats shit then its time for u to quit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949265
someone has said 文字が読めない負け犬 before though so that's close enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949272
わたしのゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

救う
掬う
難しい字知ってるね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949272
わ゙゙た゚゚し゚゚わ゚゚ゲ゚゚イ゙゙

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949260
That's encompassing all situations though. the initial one you (or someone else) brought up was why it's significantly preferable in this specific situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949272
わたしドゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949265
prove it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949283
yeah and they're being emphatic about the union of kanji and unreadability so it should at least not use を

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949288
how do you know that was their intent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949272
はたしわげい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949292
i guessed

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949286
>google 漢字を読める
>everything corrected to 漢字が読める

[Anonymous No.]

I'm 9 minutes away from having completed 100 hours of studying Japanese!

でも日本語はまだなにもわかりません もうすぐ！

[Anonymous No.]

i think the dojg has a pretty solid section about the difference in usage of を・が when talking about potential

[Anonymous No.]

漢が得るな。漢字ろ。

[Anonymous No.]

a search of ~550 novels/lns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949272
あんたゲイでしょう

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949277
その話もっと詳しく教えてちょうだい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949316
This means を is also correct.

[Anonymous No.]

weren't people arguing both may be correct but one is seldom used and conveys a different nuance

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949301
>thinking Google only corrects things because they're "wrong"
>because x is more common, y is wrong
できないやつ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949316
u deserve to be put before a firing squad

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949331
yes, the point was that a native would never use it the way rtktard did

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949335
yomeru means something like "readable" of course it's ga you dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949321
ひ・み・つ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949335
it didn't "correct it", the other version just didn't show up

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949343
>This unknowledgeable of 日本語
できな~いやつ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949316
completely different use-cases

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949343
「を好き」って言っては何故

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949348
>that it doesn't show up means it's not acceptable

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949359
it means natives don't use it because it sounds retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949357
not arguing otherwise. heres one of the relevant parts of dojg

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949365
>not knowing natives actually accept を + potential verb
oof

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949331
i didn't say it was seldom used i said the other was significantly preferable
something can be common while being less preferable

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949374
not as an attribute, not the way you used it

[Anonymous No.]

so what do you think about ereaders

[Anonymous No.]

there (upstep) are (downstep) times when using を with a negative potential in a relative clause is acceptable guys relax

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949374
they might "accept it" because you're a baka gaijin

[Anonymous No.]

Watching Oreimo to train the ears. Oh man those nips, they fuckin' hate otaku! As far as most nihonjin are concerned, otaku don't deserve to breathe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949377
>the backpedaling
>assuming how I used it
できねーよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949345

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949395
i'm not assuming, you posted your drivel frequently enough
keep permanently crippling your japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949395
attribute literally means what relative clauses function as in his post so he's not assuming

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949390
or because it's natural. too ez

[Anonymous No.]

its fascinating how much one rtk poster can shit up the thread
>>20949118
got any more of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949405
damn these bakas getting backhanded left and right

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949417
idk a lot of them get hardcode subs and the subs are also really bad

lets play a game

whoever can list the most specific instances of where these subs are terrible gets a mystery prize

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ekd6KKXpg#t=16

[Anonymous No.]

jamal do u have a yt playlist w/ all ur shit in there or smth. wanna blast dat shit

[Anonymous No.]

私は漢字は読めない

[Anonymous No.]

damn rtk really speaking for itself out here. we really in this bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>重要な選択上にいるかもしれない
how is 上 read here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949466
じょう

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>>20946523
>I would ask the same for you. Logical deductions aren't dependent on research to back it up, it's valid in itself (if it's true). Mathematics is true whether or not we can actually write it down and show it.

The distilled stupidity of this post went largely unappreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949455
maybe thats what i should make a patreon for

exclusive access to my discord where i link all my playlists :joy:

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949277
ぼくのぴこ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949459
At least use が or を, but this is entirely ungrammatical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949493
Stop pretending to be retarded sir

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949498
How can a sentence have two subjects?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949498
no u

[Anonymous No.]

and i get told im the problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949508
not sure if this is bait but は isnt a subject marker

一の谷は北は山、南は海 is a valid sentence

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949469
>still butthurt you don't actually have a valid argument against it

[Anonymous No.]

remember boys above all this bullshit in here theres only 1 rule u need to live by

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJipcw1lSdg

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949473
u gonna post it or what no1s giving u a dime buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949528
i dont have any playlists on yt they are all in my head this is the actual truth

also its not like i really want ur money b- baka (did i do this right(

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949536
damn ill need to start compiling it one by one then

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949493
僕はあなたが大好きです

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949546
僕はあなたとやりたい

[Anonymous No.]

Gentlemen,
Calvin didn't die so that we could endlessly squabble and fight over minutia. He died to show us that as long as we have content we love and can make it comprehensible we are on the Path. Now close this tab and go read some manga or a VN or watch some anime.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949572
so I'm kinda new here. can someone explain this meme to me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949546
遠慮しています。「僕」と使う人にゲイばい菌に伝染れたくないんです。

[Anonymous No.]

ochitsukitamae

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949577
im prolly just gonna post it every day till someone likes it (unlikely)

u should read that vn tho but prolly not en espanol

[Anonymous No.]

heres the tentative playlist. will update as more ideas come to me or jamal posts more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ekd6KKXpg&list=PLohx5AGTf9dNDCUo4RPVtaM9kIhgNkyRi

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949586
I like it. It captures a deep pathos and the fundamental interplay between beauty and despair. Please post it every day, that we might never forget carbin and what he taught us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949597
u really shoulda started this when i used to post lots of vids and lots of the same vid every day

ill give u 1 more to make ur playlist an even 7 tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s3DL2wCMEk

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

do i have to pay attention to stuff like how to exactly conjugate a godan or ichidan verb into its potential form or can i just vaguely recognize which verbs are in which forms and hard-learn the patterns/rules later?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949651
either way is fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949645
u r ready to become one of the boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949602
>that we might never forget carbin and what he taught us
That RTK kills?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949651
You're not going to recognize multiple chained conjugations without learning the rules first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949577
a young man named calvin struggled for a year to motivate himself to learn japanese. at one point he sold his arcade stick and GPU so that he could focus on japanese. he would take frequent breaks and then come back with motivational social media posts like "ok i missed japanese so now i know i want to learn it" but he'd fall right back into the same pits over and over. finally within the past week or two he deleted his social media accounts and wrote that he's done trying to learn.

something like that. i don't get the spanish portion of the image though. maybe it refers to the fact that someone caught calvin posting something about wanting to learn spanish a few months ago even though he was supposed to be learning japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949670
its only in spanish because when i went to look for a yt vid that covered that part of the game the first one that came up was spanish and when i got to that specific part i was like u know this is fine it shouldnt be in japanese anyway

also important to note he sold and bought back and sold again his videogame shit

[Anonymous No.]

btw u should totally put the spanish words in2 google translate if u dont understand them its a big part in enjoying the image

[Anonymous No.]

Sometimes I hear every mora, and can even recognize all individual words, but I can never process it and actually extract meaning. For example I heard "やるしかない" and although I would easily grasp what's being said if I were reading, I just didn't put 2 and 2 together while listening. FUCK.

[Anonymous No.]

海賊王に俺はなる！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949693
Why are you bothered anon? Comprehension issues will all be washed away over time. Every stumble you make is a step closer towards fluency. Why worry about making mistakes? It's just a fact of life that will decrease in relevance over the years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949693
あなたはぜったいどうしようですね

[Anonymous No.]

He never even finished watching a single series

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949433
後は犠牲にしていかないと
>i need to sacrifice the rest
傷付いて
>inflicting wounds
君は泣いた
>you're crying
重ねてたって
>even if they overlap
変わらないって
>things won't change
死ねない理由
>undying ideal
自分を犠牲にしてると
>if

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949679
douzo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949798
wow i just noticed her hand is under her shirt grabbing her tit
that is very inappropriate

[Anonymous No.]

has someone already compiled a celebrity name/face deck?

i'm struggling to remember all the kimutakus and janiizus and whatnot that every japanese person keeps referencing, at least i mostly know aidorus

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949808
did u look under her arcade stick

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949798
i guess i still like it in spanish

>>20949782
well ur the only one who played so enjoy ur mystery prize
<--

[Anonymous No.]

man ur mystery prize really blows im sorry

[Anonymous No.]

i thought you were gonna embarrass me in front of the whole class sayin something i listed was fine but instead im one of the boys now one of the homodati so thats a good prize

[Anonymous No.]

well if it helps 死ねない理由 is the 1 that pisses me off possibly the most

lol

[Anonymous No.]

pisses me off because how could the tler fuck up such an emotional bar like that

[Anonymous No.]

there's that word again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949868
wanna blow some chimpunkampun all over her thighs even now

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949868
珍紛漢紛 ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949867
yeah i was thinkin what the fUCK is his problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949875
ぴーちくぱーちくいうんじゃねーよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949918
kare ha gei

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949926
何をさせるつもり
怖い

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949932
is he really gay? if i download flyable heart can i bone him? are his scenes good? is he a bottom or a top? is his dick big? no, wait, is it oral or anal? are there pubes included? since he's probably japanese, his hair probably isn't naturally blonde, so are they a different color from his hair? in short does the carpet match the drapes? does he keep most of his uniform on during the scene, like is he all disheveled during it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949948
情けない
ね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949948
damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949953
>>20949960
なんてね。。。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949948
ホ～モ～

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949972

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949948
お釜お神様　＜ーーーお前はここにいる
ホモ帝
ゲイ王
超ゲイ
男色
ガチホモ
ホモ
ゲイ
同性愛者
あっち系
ホモっぽい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950029
if im the god of all homos then addressing me with お前 is a bit...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950066
he didnt mean it formally ya dink

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950077
and 100x better than RTK because you can use knowledge of the radicals/pieces of kanji to help you write easier, without sacrificing actually learning words and readings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950077
おｋ but what do when you come accross せい, けい, は or any common sound you fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950077
trying to get too much out of one card sounds like a mistake
but writing words is prob better than rtk for writing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950077
good luck with homophones you homo
unless you put the meaning on the front too, but then you're not practicing remembering the meaning

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949778
what anime tracking site is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950110
anilist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950110
y dont people know how to use google

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949670
Some of the dekinais you can just spot from a mile away. They might try to hold on for extended period of time, but in the end their fate was already sealed from the moment they started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949236
Maybe you need to spend a week or so just letting go and consuming a lot of native material with no lookups at all.

What's exhausting you is your compulsion for 100% understanding all the time. Not the Japanese itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950141

ah anilist! thanks dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949778
poor calvin the only thing he finished was his life

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950101
You could put the hiragana within a sentence on the front where only the correct kanji makes sense. Like the 漢字ドリル books are set up.

例:
ボディを（じゅう・りん）され処女を奪われる

蹂躙

(^_^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20949236
This describes my experience perfectly.
I'm ESL too and I can read novels in English for hours without getting tired, but I need to concentrate and think hard when reading Japanese and need frequent breaks. I'm not as autistic about understanding every single detail, though it bothers me if I move on while unsure about a line.

Anyway, it's most likely the need for constant concentration that tires you out. Especially with Japanese where carrying context from one sentence to the next is so important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950090
You use a sentence or phrase with context. See the above example.

[Anonymous No.]

got a few more. i'll get far fewer in the next djt. promise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950131
thanks! does it let you track individual episodes in case you skip around?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950204
So maybe you're just not doing it enough in general? It seems very strange any language you would interact with daily on a certain level would give you so much trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950235
I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950204
wtf is wrong with esls
if the eroge is good i can read six hours ez and im shit at nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

djt's motto: 磨穿鉄硯

[Anonymous No.]

djts motto: 切磋琢磨

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950272
i can't even read that

[Anonymous No.]

djts motto: stupid fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.]

err excuse me i meant bio not motto

[Anonymous No.]

rtgei

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950294
This happens when you do genki instead of anki.

[Anonymous No.]

u forgot the いい which is what i feel

[Anonymous No.]

the いい is implied

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950315
四字熟語じゃない。

「私はゲイ」

[Anonymous No.]

but if its djts motto it needs the いい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950339
中出気持

[Anonymous No.]

the いい doesnt even mean anything

[Anonymous No.]

hiragana bad
kanji good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950339
As the famous Chinese proverb goes: 我竿尻嵌

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950230
that doesn't show only your (you)s, it also includes replies you made

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950368
maybe in ur plugin

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950368
nope. i'm using 4chanx.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950388
so am I

[Anonymous No.]

im glad i did core 2k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950400
doesn't happen for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950400
>>20950408
nvm i misunderstood you. it does show my responses. but that's OK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950403
I hope you have more experience than just core2k if you're reading sakura no uta.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone have the habit of overanalyzing sentences? I'll read something and feel 80% confident that I understood it but I often then spend an additional 20-30 seconds making sure i got the meaning right. should i not do this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20943442
download kaku. you can ocr or just long press and highlight the text, click the arrow in the context menu to show more and press kaku. you can look it up in jmdict. the only thing thats really missing is it wont detect some things if their written in kana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950416
ur not gonna magically turn misunderstanding into understanding

more research might help but if u just sit there staring at it ur wasting ur time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950413
lol yeah i was just making fun of that guy who was pissed 市役者 was in core.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950419
well if its a grammar point im unsure of i usually look it up, but you're right that often isn't the case

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/aedo4

[Anonymous No.]

>>20943246
use the discord, you don't need an account

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950441
is matt just a calvin who hasnt quite yet bought back his arcade stick and video card?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20950441
>waaaah such ungrateful cunts waaaah why should I keep up with this shit
because you're passively earning thousands of dollars each month from your patreon you fucking retard
Literally all you need to do is linking your gullible patrons to web pages other people ACTUALLY put work into and releasing a video once in a blue moon which also doesn't take any effort since you don't edit jack shit and just spend hours on end jerking to your monthly opinions
YET YOU STILL COMPLAIN
GOD I HATE THIS FUCKING SCUMBAG

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>>20950416
checking words quickly is fine even if you know it but have a doubt in your mind
checking grammar should probably be done a lot less often
breaking down the sentence seems useless to me
time spent on one sentence has quickly diminishing returns just read more

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>>20950451
dont compare their struggles matts never had to sell anything in his life

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Just got home link me all the best posts in this thread before it dies I'm too lazy to read it myself

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Starting the jōyō kanji and I have a question, what am I supposed to memorize for pronunciation if they have multiple ones? I'm going based on the wiki list
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j%C5%8Dy%C5%8D_kanji

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>>20950526
well right yea i get it middle class entitled brat boy matt but i mean in his heart the arcade stick and gpu in his heart

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>>20950533
lol retard

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>>20950532
just ctrl f jamal and most of the good posts will be somewhere around those

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>>20950533
don't do dumb shit

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>>20950533
we don't want you here, go away

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>>20950533
please stop

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>>20950533
read the guide retardo

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>>20950533
retard

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>>20950533
lol how do ppl come up w/ these i love it

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>>20950533
No one will ever love you.

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>>20950534
they def have some psychological issues in common but are different in other ways but if you want to stretch it you got it backwards
the arcade stick and gpu in his heart are japanese and anki
he tried to quit and came back then he tried to just drop anki and picked it back up
he doesnt have anything else in life to go back to

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>tfw never need to listen to an 英語 dub again

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>>20950569
idk why i didnt think of it like this before i guess i just dont believe someone could actually define their entire existence by trying to learn japanese

i bet u matt pops a stiffy just looking at the convex and concave kanjis lol

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>>20950578
Why'd you need that in the first place, dumb frog poster?

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>>20950580
im sure his rtk cards say somethin real embarrassing about how the outie fits in the innie

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Someone make a new bread

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>>20950533
Can you imagine someome trying to learn English and coming to the conclusion the best course of action is to grab a dictionary and starting from aardvark..