Touhou Gameplay Thread

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Touhou Gameplay Thread Anonymous Sat Nov 3 23:39:02 2018 No.20187104 [Reply] [Original]

Previous thread: >>20036090
What pattern gives you more trouble than it has any reason to?
For me it's Chen's final spell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 23:39:57 2018 No.20187108 i can't beat the first levels of the easy games on easy mode

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 00:28:26 2018 No.20187276
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I did it. After starting Touhou in late September with EoSD, I finally got a 1cc with Reimu B on Normal. I know it's not much but goddamn does it feel good.
The thing is I still have this bad habit of refusing to use bombs unless I'm completely cornered. If not for that I might have been able to get a 1cc earlier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 00:33:25 2018 No.20187296 >>20187108 that's hard to believe, you can practically stand in one place and not move for some of them

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 00:35:08 2018 No.20187303 >>20187276 Train yourself out of that habit ASAP

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:05:29 2018 No.20187517 >>20187482 Without vpatch. I got used to it after a few weeks so I decided not to apply the patch. Plus I don't like modding games like this unless it's to fix a completely game breaking issue.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:06:33 2018 No.20187383 >>20187276 Good work anon. EoSD is one of the worst games gameplay-wise, so you're in for a treat with the reson of the series if that's a factor for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:21:39 2018 No.20187568 >>20187517 I would think disgusting input lag is a game breaking issue, but you do you.

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:26:03 2018 No.20187434

>>20187303
Yeah, I definitely ought to use bombs more often.
>>20187383
I'm really looking forward to the rest of the series. Going to start PCB soon.
>EoSD is one of the worst games gameplay-wise
Why? Is it the input lag or something to do with the spell cards?

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:43:36 2018 No.20187470

>>20187434
The game is kind of unrefined at that point, the movement is a little off so the spell cards have to be wider to compensate, etc. That's not really a big issue though. Probably the worst is the "gain lives by scoring" thing. Other games in the series have different mechanics which are usually more interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:48:32 2018 No.20187482 >>20187434 >Is it the input lag Were you playing without the vpatch or an appropiately-ancient computer?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 07:31:28 2018 No.20188848 >>20187104 Chen in general, I don't know what it is about her that gives me so much trouble but I almost always fuck up something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 14:45:38 2018 No.20191392 >>20187517 I think the input lag comes from compatibility issues, making the vpatch more of a fix rather than a modding

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 14:54:41 2018 No.20191445 >>20187517 I'd definitely recommend getting vpatch for PCB, input lag in it is worse than EoSD for me at least.

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 15:53:26 2018 No.20191815
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>>20187104
I beat Flandre today even though there was a moving flicker of death bug on my screen from using vsync.

Secondary status: Destroyed, thanks Flan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 16:04:41 2018 No.20191911 >>20191815 Great, so are you gonna touch any other game or will you continuously post EoSD for all of eternity?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 16:08:27 2018 No.20191933 >>20191815 Grats. >>20191911 Who pissed in your cereal, dude?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 16:10:04 2018 No.20191946 >>20191933 There is no reason for more than half of all posts in each thread to be about EoSD.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 16:18:28 2018 No.20191989 >>20191946 The fuck are you talking about? It's only been like 20 posts. People are playing the game so they're talking about the game, how's that hard to understand? Show me the 155+ posts last thread that are about EoSD. I'll wait.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 16:23:05 2018 No.20192022 >>20191989 Move on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 18:29:28 2018 No.20192887 do most people play with keyboard as opposed to controller? (ie dualshock analogs)

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 19:02:16 2018 No.20193091 >>20187104 Every single one of Youmu's non-spells in PCB.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 20:56:01 2018 No.20193536 >>20192887 Controllers are for gays.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 00:15:10 2018 No.20194224 File: 247 KB, 1200x1750, Yuyuko (2786).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20187104 I've got to try this now. As for your question, I say Deadly Toxin "Poisonous Moth's Dance in the Dark". >>20187276 >>20191815 Congrats anons!

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 00:52:34 2018 No.20194329 >>20192887 keyboard is for gays but controller sucks cocks for 2hu, don't even try it

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 02:15:45 2018 No.20194557 talent

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 02:22:10 2018 No.20194571 File: 233 KB, 502x457, 21.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20191989 > It's only been like 20 posts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 02:24:38 2018 No.20194580 >>20192887 Some play with keyboard, some play with gamepad, but nobody play with analog.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 03:30:41 2018 No.20194798 >>20194580 I play with analog

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 11:01:42 2018 No.20196567 >>20194798 Yeah but do you also dodge stuff?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 11:09:41 2018 No.20196601 >>20196567 it's just a small and not clicky arcade stick

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 11:11:30 2018 No.20196611 >>20196601 That didn't answer my question.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 11:26:54 2018 No.20196701 >>20196611 yes, you dodge stuff with it. you can dodge stuff with it. that's what people do with the library of shooting games on the xbox 360, after all.

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 11:38:54 2018 No.20196750
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>>20196567
Yeah no, my best is only LNB on an easy lunatic, and my progress is pretty slow. Sometimes I wish I could play on kb but it just seems a billion times harder, pressing 2 keys in order to go in 1 direction seems unnatural to me compared to just pushing the stick in the direction you wanna go.
Btw how is progress going, everyone?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 11:39:58 2018 No.20196752 >>20196701 I just tried that with xbox analog. I don't believe you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 11:59:35 2018 No.20196844 >>20187108 Are you a games journalist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:18:15 2018 No.20196913 >>20196752 just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done. nice ego.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:25:44 2018 No.20196942 File: 37 KB, 377x480, 1375596460293.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20196913 Well obviously. Playing with unfamiliar device sounds like a bizzare difficulty challange though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:56:17 2018 No.20197080 >>20196750 >Btw how is progress going, everyone? Very slow, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 16:38:04 2018 No.20197997 >>20196701 >that's what people do with the library of shooting games on the xbox 360, after all. Normal people play with d-pad, duh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 18:27:39 2018 No.20198522 File: 1.63 MB, 1920x1079, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what do I need to do to get around this? Is there some money glitch I'm not aware of?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 19:59:09 2018 No.20199026 >>20198522 Yes, it's called "make your own thread, faggot"

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 20:26:26 2018 No.20199147
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>>20194224
>I've got to try this now.
Make sure to start from one corner and move to the other other corner at around ~20 seconds otherwise it gets a bit too dense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 20:49:04 2018 No.20199235 Does anyone do all timeouts runs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 21:09:17 2018 No.20199317 >>20199235 I'll try it for MoF. Give me an hour.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 21:12:37 2018 No.20199327 >>20199235 >>20199317 Wait did you mean all timeout no miss or just timing out everything? Because the former is aids.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 21:17:09 2018 No.20199341 >>20199026 it’s not worth making a thread for a game very few people play when there’s already a general

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 21:19:32 2018 No.20199354 >>20199327 I suppose both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 21:21:01 2018 No.20199359 Are there good/bad endings in PoDD? I don’t use continues ever. Only finished it with Rikako so far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 21:22:17 2018 No.20199368 >>20199354 Yeah, nah, it's too stupid. Also I just remembered that Kanako's first nonspell is a thing so I'm scrapping that idea. That's harder to timeout than VoWG honestly. Might explore some other games though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 21:24:42 2018 No.20199377 >>20199341 >it’s not worth Neither is your shitty fangame.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 21:27:24 2018 No.20199392 >>20199377 I’m not the guy who made that post, I just think it’s kinda dumb to be upset about a single post a guy made about a touhou game just because it’s one you don’t like. Plus it’s a kind of fun game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 22:09:51 2018 No.20199576 >>20199368 Yeah, was just mentioning it in theory, not with regards to a specific game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 22:31:25 2018 No.20199660 >>20197997 I don't think normal people want to use the 360 dpad at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 01:44:09 2018 No.20200347 >>20199026 >>20199377 Not a fan of aquastyle games but you should kill yourself regardless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 02:05:49 2018 No.20200439 >>20200347 >you should kill yourself You should go back to the horrible board you came from.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 05:12:47 2018 No.20201084 >>20187104 I have some trouble reading bullets moving diagonally stuff like Poisonous Moth Dance in the Dark or the blue rings on Pristine Danmaku Hell. Sometimes I misread them and end up moving into them.

Anonymous Tue Nov 6 05:34:47 2018 No.20201149

>>20198522
I got stuck there for a while as well, since the solution is a bit unintuitive. You need to fill the spaces around you with piles of money, then drop the swap talisman. With no room at your feet, it will land on the other side of the wall. As usual, the marks on the ground indicate where to stand and such.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 10:35:16 2018 No.20202252 >>20200439 Already there bud.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 11:04:34 2018 No.20202336 >>20202252 Don't respond for me ever again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 11:05:52 2018 No.20202339 I can’t beat Kanako because I’m autistic and don’t want to watch someone do it on youtube even though I’m almost definitely going to have to.

Anonymous Tue Nov 6 11:13:03 2018 No.20202355

>>20201149
I figured that out when I saw money spawning on the opposite side. The next floor was a pain since you had to put eirin to sleep, make her incompetent, place the empty suck-gap on the panel above her, then carefully throw the money down the hall to the giant kisumes, equip the oni cup, and then throw the money to kill every single one in that row.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 11:41:45 2018 No.20202450 >>20202339 She has only 2 spellcards with a hint of gimmick in a game where you can bomb every second spellcard for free.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 16:54:06 2018 No.20203564 >>20202450 I guess I’m not using my bombs at the best time. Her non spells fuck with me too. The rest of the game seems very easy in comparison.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 16:57:17 2018 No.20203576 >>20202336 Suck my dick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 18:08:07 2018 No.20203845 LoLK makes me want to commit die

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 18:53:30 2018 No.20204036 >>20202339 It's MoF, you can win by pressing the bomb key over and over

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 19:38:04 2018 No.20204241 File: 33 KB, 228x250, 1470610783698.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20203845 >commit die

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 20:32:06 2018 No.20204479 >>20203845 Just for you I tried LoLK on Lunatic, pointdevice mode. It took me 30 minutes to beat Seiran. I had to use one bomb.

Anonymous Tue Nov 6 20:55:29 2018 No.20204576
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>>20204479
I feel like I just ran a marathon.
I now want to "commit die" like >>20203845
At least I beat Ringo, that's the farthest I've ever gotten on Lunatic with this game. Her last spell card was surprisingly easy considering the awfulness of the one before it and her first non-spell

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 21:00:38 2018 No.20204590 >>20204576 You should probably stop now. Clownpiece will kick your shit in if you're already forced to bomb here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 21:09:12 2018 No.20204620 >>20204590 >Clownpiece will kick your shit in Already used to that. I'm more worried about Junko, she gives me a lot more trouble than Clownpiece.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 21:12:03 2018 No.20204625 Which game has the easiest gameplay for someone completely new who is most probably terrible and also has lots of either Suika or Luna?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 21:14:49 2018 No.20204635 File: 1.70 MB, 1282x987, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20204576 >>20204620 Race ya.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 21:15:10 2018 No.20204639 >>20204625 Suika is in fightan or photo games that you don't to play them now. Luna is in GFW which you don't want to play it now. Download EoSD, hold shift for focused movement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 22:00:40 2018 No.20204782 >>20204639 Well, for Suika there's also SA, but you probably shouldn't do that first either. >>20204625 I guess if you really like Suika and Luna you could also read the manga.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 22:24:12 2018 No.20204825 File: 652 KB, 1282x987, speedy rabbit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20204635 Woo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 22:36:21 2018 No.20204850 File: 10 KB, 357x357, 1401218635142.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20204825 >retry count 4

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 23:47:16 2018 No.20205005 >>20204479 congratulation LoLK is basically my first game because I hate myself so I'm dumping upwards of two hours into getting my ass handed to me by single attacks instead of picking an easier game like a more reasonable person might

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 10:07:18 2018 No.20206950 >>20204639 Why would he want to avoid GFW? It’s a fun game even if it’s hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 10:51:19 2018 No.20207182 >>20206950 It's a shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 15:43:18 2018 No.20208587 dying on last 10% of the last spellcard is totemo kanashii desu yo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 08:57:28 2018 No.20212481 >>20206950 Yeah but he's completely new. Do you seriously want him to play GFW?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 09:21:24 2018 No.20212607 File: 1.48 MB, 1280x960, hard choke.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20208587 I feel you man.

Anonymous Thu Nov 8 14:44:59 2018 No.20214228

Do you know where I can find replays for the games past TD? The archive at http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php only seems to go up to TD and I want to try LoLK Extra but can't seem to figure out some of the spells on my own. Preferably I'd like a replay at my skill level, I know where to find high score runs but there's no way I can emulate that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 14:49:38 2018 No.20214242 >>20214228 Look on youtube.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 14:49:45 2018 No.20214243 File: 118 KB, 787x830, satcher.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20214228

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 14:51:58 2018 No.20214254 >>20214242 >>20214243 Seems like somebody made an updated archive, I'll try this. http://replay.lunarcast.net/

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 15:08:42 2018 No.20214323 Anyone have a link to the EoSD patch that lets you set rank in-game and choose which stage section you start at?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 16:00:17 2018 No.20214559 >>20214323 https://mega.nz/#F!lxR3HK6C!E_IK4lOrjzx3yd8JNS99bQ

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 16:07:27 2018 No.20214589 >>20214323 >>20214559 >cheating

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 16:12:00 2018 No.20214613 >>20214589 Running the meme to the ground I see

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 16:16:32 2018 No.20214632 >>20214589 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 16:40:28 2018 No.20214756 >>20214559 Thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 17:41:03 2018 No.20215068 Anyone have the EoSD cheat that lets you pick your starting lives?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 21:05:00 2018 No.20215875 Anyone have a link to the EoSD autobomb patch?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 21:21:14 2018 No.20215922 >>20214254 There isn't even a LoLK extra replay there that isn't a scorerun. If you want I can make one for you that shows how to bomb your way to a win.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 9 10:21:12 2018 No.20218665 Holy Jesus solo Reimu does no damage. How the fuck do you even get past Marisa?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 9 10:21:43 2018 No.20218667 How is Mystic Square easy mode easy? Took me a few tries to 1cc and I can (barely) 1cc most of the games on hard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 9 20:39:36 2018 No.20221572 >>20215875 Guys? It's not a cheat, I swear.

Anonymous Fri Nov 9 20:45:46 2018 No.20221609

>>20221572
Are you doing this shit unironically? Rank setting and stage warping is used for practice. You don't need that shit if you just want to cheat through the game for whatever reason. Life and bomb counts take like 2 seconds to find in cheat engine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 00:46:21 2018 No.20222653 >>20187108 /jp/ in a nutshell honestly

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 03:18:47 2018 No.20223127 >>20221609 Don't reply to him.

Anonymous Sat Nov 10 13:58:55 2018 No.20225383

>>20221609
It's obviously not the same person asking all three times because specifically asking for something that lets you control rank would make absolutely no sense if they wanted tools that enabled them to cheat. The latter two questions are more than likely the usual anon that labels everyone that uses practice tools as cheaters trying to stir shit as always.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 14:04:19 2018 No.20225395 >>20225383 He is just an unfunny retard from discord, ignore him.

Anonymous Sat Nov 10 20:54:47 2018 No.20227100
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>>20215922
I found a no-miss no-bomb run that I'm using, basically I looked for the lowest score run I could find. I've already figured out where I'll need to bomb. Thanks for the offer though.

The LoLK Extra is actually pretty easy (except for that one Heca non-spell) until this card. If I was using Reisen I could get through it with one bomb if I'm lucky, but I'm trying either Reimu or Sanae so I just have to get good at it I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 21:15:19 2018 No.20227183 >>20227100 FUCK JUNKO

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 22:16:44 2018 No.20233354 >>20221609 Okay. Where's the address I have to change in Cheat Engine to activate autobomb? It's certified not cheating now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 17:59:51 2018 No.20237637 Guess I'll commit to one instead of just jumping around. 00-24 IN 25-49 MoF 50-74 TD 75-99 DDC Roll.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 06:52:55 2018 No.20239931 >>20214559 Is there a patch for HSiFS?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 08:29:49 2018 No.20240273 >>20239931 There is no ingame practice patch for HSiFS. Most games that got a practice patch are those without spell practice atm. You can still use SpoilerAL as there is an ssg for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 10:59:45 2018 No.20240910 File: 256 KB, 1282x987, nn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20237637 There we go. 01-33 IN 34-66 TD 67-99 DDC

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 03:48:05 2018 No.20244483 >>20240910 You managed to get extra clear in 17 hours?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 07:39:10 2018 No.20245130 >>20244483 It's Suwako bro. I beat her when I still couldn't 1cc UFO on normal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 07:42:53 2018 No.20245154 ghosting keyboard...

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 08:35:46 2018 No.20245394 >>20244483 No, I'm knocking out the ExNNs I still haven't gotten one by one, with the exception LoLK and GFW.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 14:45:00 2018 No.20247017 >>20245130 Unfocused Marisa B doesn't count bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:57:41 2018 No.20247414 >>20244483 You should be able to LNB after 17 hours.....

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 16:04:46 2018 No.20247440 >>20247017 Naturally.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 20:28:25 2018 No.20248733 >>20247017 Suwako is still easy, just figure out the spells and it should be easy. The only hard part is surviving 2 survivals in a row.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 03:41:02 2018 No.20250162 >>20248733 >it should be easy Yeah but not easier than UFO normal. I don't believe you post dem replays.

Anonymous Thu Nov 15 05:20:30 2018 No.20250400

>>20250162
You're replying to wrong anon but joke on you, I still have both replays with timestamps.
https://my.mixtape.moe/dfiiea.rar
Now I remember how I was losing most of my lives on Shou's curved laser festa0 and 3-4 lives on Byakuren's last spell constantly.
I also remembered that I beat IN extra and PCB phantasm before UFO normal as well but it's a story for another time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 05:22:29 2018 No.20250403 File: 1.21 MB, 631x953, th10_2018_11_15_12_30_15_041.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20250400 Forgot pic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 14:42:54 2018 No.20252474 >>20250400 You choked hard during Byakuren and lost 6 bombs and still end up with 2 lifes though. Meanwhile you defeated Suwako with your last life and bomb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 14:44:05 2018 No.20252475 >>20252474 And?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 16:07:37 2018 No.20252789 Fuck, I decided to actually start playing around late July and managed to 1cc PCB on normal about a month ago which is really shit but now it feels like I'm going back in progress and getting frustrated which hasn't happened before. Sorry for blog.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 22:18:16 2018 No.20254065 File: 1.78 MB, 1282x987, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20240910 Why do I keep dying to Fujiyama Volcano in the most stupid ways every time I cap rings. Fuck. I also can't seem to get IS down. Long road ahead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 02:38:02 2018 No.20255025 >>20254065 >Why do I keep dying to Fujiyama Volcano in the most stupid ways Are you doing it right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 08:26:03 2018 No.20256115 >>20255025 I do the circle around her method but I keep messing up the timing in runs even though I can do it 10 out of 10 times in practice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 10:04:33 2018 No.20256641 >>20252475 Just because you choked it suddenly makes the whole game harder? >>20256115 >I do the circle around her method Dude pls.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 10:11:35 2018 No.20256679 File: 43 KB, 694x600, Yuyuko (2725).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20254065 Someone with your skill level should know about choking easy stuff after doing the hardest stuff in a run.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 10:37:36 2018 No.20256826 >>20256641 >Dude pls. Wh-What? Have I been doing it wrong this whole time? https://my.mixtape.moe/vxabtw.webm It usually works.

Anonymous Fri Nov 16 10:39:27 2018 No.20256842
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>>20256641
>It's Suwako bro. I beat her when I still couldn't 1cc UFO on normal.
>I don't believe you post dem replays.
>here
>Just because you choked it suddenly makes the whole game harder?

Anonymous Fri Nov 16 11:05:15 2018 No.20256980
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>>20256842
Where did I move the goalpost? You beat Suwako with your last life. You beat Byakuren with some lifes while you choked heavily. Granted you get more resources in UFO but even in your Suwako run you lost a life with full power. That should make them at least equal if anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 18:33:27 2018 No.20258871 Imperishable Shooting. >Green waves Fucking HOW!?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 22:35:10 2018 No.20259921 >>20256641 >>I do the circle around her method >Dude pls. This is the easiest method though, not sure why you'd say that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 06:13:59 2018 No.20261125 >>20247414 No one can do that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 15:05:09 2018 No.20263510 >>20259921 I don't know I simply moved left and right like here. Circling around Moko-tan seems unnecessary risky to me. https://youtu.be/JNADQlI53mc?t=301

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 15:52:15 2018 No.20263768 File: 2.88 MB, 1280x960, 2018-11-17 15-34-35.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cirno really is the strongest.

Anonymous Sun Nov 18 06:45:28 2018 No.20267222

>>20263510
I mean, that link bombs the card. You get unnecessarily close to the forks and the blasts, and much of it depends on Mokou's movement. When you circle around literally the only dangerous things are the circle bullets, and you don't even dodge those in the most dense part of them. It's this way that's pretty risky.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 18 10:26:39 2018 No.20268162 >>20263768 I don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 18 10:44:25 2018 No.20268240 >>20268162 I also don't get it. Why isn't anon using the doll as sub instead of the useless yin yang?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 18 23:37:53 2018 No.20271916 >>20187108 Are you me?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 19 04:07:36 2018 No.20272668 >>20261125 do you really believe that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 19 06:55:19 2018 No.20273061 >>20267222 That bomb was also pretty bad even you must admit it. Once you get the timing right the card is pretty manageable. I don't know, maybe your version is easier but I'm already using this version so yeah. https://youtu.be/JJgy5skcMJI?t=499

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 19 07:33:10 2018 No.20273188 >>20273061 I mean yeah, just found it funny that you'd use an example that doesn't even capture the card. I couldn't care less what strategy somebody else uses if it works for them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 19 13:40:34 2018 No.20274733 >>20272668 17 hours real time and without previous shmup experience anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 19 20:49:57 2018 No.20276605 >>20274733 do you really believe that anon had never played a shmup before despite posting here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 20 00:35:17 2018 No.20277497 >>20276605 or that you can't just clear your scorefile

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 20 06:46:51 2018 No.20278399 >>20273188 Also I thought that he's talking about that method where you constantly spinning around Mokou unfocused. Can't find that video though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 20 12:44:53 2018 No.20279636 >>20278399 That's for Honest Man's Death anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 20 18:58:57 2018 No.20281233 Lunatic Impact LUNATIC IMPACT WHY DOES THIS GODAWFUL SPELLCARD EXIST

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 00:53:15 2018 No.20282595 >>20281233 just a glorified version of fairy overdrive, go back to fairy wars

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 04:14:18 2018 No.20283054 What are the touhou games ranked from shortest to longest?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 05:53:52 2018 No.20283263 >>20283054 That's an oddly specific question. I think Fairy Wars is the shortest, the mainline games are around 35 minutes the photo games and ISC are probably the longest but in my opinion they don't really count.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 06:06:11 2018 No.20283307 >>20279636 Oh dog, disregard that post, I suck massive cock.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 08:43:47 2018 No.20283869 >>20283054 Roughly 9, 12.8 < 1, 2 < 4, 10, 16 < 6, 11, 12, 14 < 7, 8, 13 < 15 < 3 Photogames not included. YMMV depending on how much you bomb/shotgun etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 08:45:02 2018 No.20283874 >>20283054 >>20283869 Whoops, 5 sits with 6, 11, 12 and 14.

Anonymous Wed Nov 21 11:01:39 2018 No.20284507

>>20283869
Not him but why are TD, LoLK and PoDD so high? I can see PCB because it has that overlong stage 4 and IN because it has that AND a normal-sized stage 6 (unlike PCB which had a really short one) AND there's the survival section at the end. But I don't remember anything from the three games you listed as longest that makes them, well, the longest.

Anonymous Wed Nov 21 11:15:15 2018 No.20284586

>>20284507
I've recorded some of my replays before and just went off the length of those. You can go look up some youtube videos and you'll see it more or less fits the list.
The difference between the tiers are pretty small, too. You could fuse the first two, the next three and the last two together if you wanted into <20 minutes, 20 to low 30 minutes, and mid 30 minutes and above. PoDD is the only one that has some really big variation but I mostly see ~35+ minute runs.

Anonymous Wed Nov 21 12:37:16 2018 No.20284950

>>20283054
Based on speedruns at speedrun.com, the world record times for mainline windows games using normal difficulty are:
EoSD: 18m08s
PCB: 22m40s
IN: 21m35s
MOF: 13m56s430ms
SA: 17m30s
UFO: no normal runs, easy is 17m20s
TD: no normal runs, easy is 19m25s
DDC: 21m03s
LoLK: 30m48s (PD) 26m12s (legacy)
HSiFS: 23m24s

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 15:11:51 2018 No.20285644 >>20284950 >HSiFS: 23m24s Really? My LNBNR was only 26 minutes. Makes me want to give it a try now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 15:15:20 2018 No.20285659 >>20285644 hell, upload any UFO or TD normal run and you get a free world record

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 15:38:58 2018 No.20285765 >>20285659 Kinda sucks that the Touhou games are so niche. I just pulled a 19:40 HSiFS normal out of my ass that had like 6 stupid deaths. The lunatic record looks like it might actually be tough to beat, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 18:16:24 2018 No.20286518 File: 26 KB, 722x451, 1cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I needed some rehab. First time 1cc MS. Shinki's theme is so amazing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 21 23:52:09 2018 No.20288047 >>20285765 >Kinda sucks that the Touhou games are so niche It's more that the theoretical bottom is hard-limited by the game and the path for improvement is incredibly linear, strict, and optimizey.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 01:43:35 2018 No.20288320 >>20268240 The doll sucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 20:56:46 2018 No.20292750 >>20288320 Y-you suck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 21:17:00 2018 No.20292831 >>20288047 This. Speedrunning Touhou has very little to do with what typically draws people to speedrunning games in the first place. Besides, much more niche games get speedrun pretty regularly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 21:18:03 2018 No.20292834 >>20284950 >MOF: 13m56s430ms Woah what the hell? I assume this has to be from MarisaBroken's laser shredding through bosses way faster than intended, yeah?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 21:23:27 2018 No.20292858 >>20203564 Whenever you're at 5 power you should basically be itching to bomb your way past the soonest even remotely challenging danmaku pattern, unless you know an even harder one is coming up immediately after it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 21:25:04 2018 No.20292862 >>20187108 Are there even enough bullets on some of those stages to deplete your resources?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 21:26:13 2018 No.20292865 >>20191445 It seems to vary person-to-person whether PCB or EoSD has worse input lag. Regardless, both should be fixed-up with vpatch.

Anonymous Thu Nov 22 21:41:10 2018 No.20292916

Between DDC and TD which Extra is easier?
I've gotten to almost the endurance spell on both stages but I want to know which one to grind for a clear. Mamizou starts out easier but there's a huge ramp up in difficulty. TD is also stingier with resources (at least compared to DDC). Raiko is moderately difficult throughout, and it's easier to get resources but the game punishes you harder for tilting and I can't figure out how to get a bunch of extra lives with MarisaB so I'm either going to do ReimuA or SakuyaA

>>20292831
A 2hu speedrun would basically be spamming bombs and shotgunning bosses to get through as quickly without getting hit. Doesn't sound that interesting really.

>>20292865
I've played PCB a lot more than EoSD so the input lag is more noticeable. It feels like almost half a second delay without vpatch, which makes the game unplayable unless you're King Crimson.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 21:43:13 2018 No.20292922 >>20292916 TD Extra is fucking impossible

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 21:47:36 2018 No.20292938 File: 204 KB, 384x448, Th13SC116.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20292922 It isn't that bad for me until this bullshit spellcard. Everything after this is complete and utter bullshit as well. I guess I'll stick with DDC then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 21:48:40 2018 No.20292940 >>20292916 >Between DDC and TD which Extra is easier? I'd say DDC, but they're both around the middleground when it comes to Extra difficulty, I'd say.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 22:01:23 2018 No.20292970 File: 824 KB, 2370x3496, 1472266120819.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why did ZUN removed Extra from spell practice in LoLK?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 23:05:36 2018 No.20293277 >>20292970 What are you talking about? LoLK doesn't even have Spell Practice (although Pointdevice mode comes close). Just use Reisen and bomb your way through, if I can clear it then it can't be that hard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 22 23:22:48 2018 No.20293374 >>20292916 TD Extra has less resources but doesn't do anything nasty until around the second half of Mamizou's spells. DDC gives you plenty of resources, but the stage and Raiko are nastier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 00:29:56 2018 No.20293655 >>20293277 Oh right. >Just use Reisen and bomb your way through, if I can clear it then it can't be that hard. I want to clear it with Sanae for personal reasons.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 03:45:44 2018 No.20294172 >>20293655 Just use Sanae and graze your way through?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 03:50:41 2018 No.20294183 >>20294172 Thanks for advice, just beat it thanks to you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 04:03:15 2018 No.20294227 >>20294183 I mean, it's legit strategy. Probably the most legit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 23 19:18:35 2018 No.20297783 What's 4channel's favorite mainline game? I bet it's HSiFS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 24 01:08:08 2018 No.20299018 >>20292834 what do you think

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 24 02:15:13 2018 No.20299254 >>20297783 4channeller here, I don't play anything but EoSD on repeat endlessly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 24 09:29:03 2018 No.20300609 >>20187276 >Player Penalty Sorry to break it to you, but you didn't actually 1cc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 24 13:04:03 2018 No.20301588 File: 310 KB, 883x756, 1538398811014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20300609 Yeah, I noticed a bit later that I forgot to set lives back to default. That's fine. I'll move on instead of letting EoSD drag me down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 24 17:28:11 2018 No.20302837 File: 259 KB, 640x480, 1529986922400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ok that was fun. Except that survival spell, what the hell was that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 24 18:30:25 2018 No.20303129 File: 1.36 MB, 720x540, nuenue.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So this happened. I was trying to change the name in the scores table and pressed X. Th-That's still an NNN, r-right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 24 21:32:48 2018 No.20304010 >>20303129 Yeah, a very stylish one

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 25 15:39:24 2018 No.20307898 >>20292938 You don't need to move side to side, going up and down is enough to clear it since the pattern is kinda similar to guerrilla

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 26 09:31:38 2018 No.20311937 File: 261 KB, 597x653, 1537412703473.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder, is anybody using stimulants before danmaku? Energy drinks, large amount of coffee, alcohol etc. Any notable effects or improvements?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 26 11:54:12 2018 No.20312415 >>20311937 That's cheating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 26 15:47:44 2018 No.20313320 What's the hardest survival spell?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 27 08:50:08 2018 No.20316711 >>20312415 How so?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 27 10:28:45 2018 No.20317066 >>20313320 Probably Sukuna-chan's.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 27 10:34:52 2018 No.20317091 >>20317066 Doesn't hers have the same route every time? It's just memo. And not a hard one at that. >>20313320 My vote's for PWG.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 27 13:47:48 2018 No.20317897 >>20313320 my vote goes for suwa war. and philosophy of a hated pérson, still getting me despite all my practice

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 27 19:59:35 2018 No.20319614 >>20317091 Which one was PWG? Also, yes, Shimmy is routable, but that doesn't save you from bullshit hitboxes and tight streaming.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 27 23:40:25 2018 No.20320430 >>20319614 >Which one was PWG? Aya's from MoF.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 03:39:23 2018 No.20321199 File: 859 KB, 961x760, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CAPTURED ETERNAL MEEK AND I FINALLY BEAT THIS GAME ON LUNATIC (USING CONTINUES THOUGH)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 05:25:01 2018 No.20321446 >>20187104 I've heard people say that Touhou is different from other bullet hells in ways other than just the aesthetic. In what way(s)? I installed Moedan and intend to play it a bit today/tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 06:06:46 2018 No.20321562 File: 3.00 MB, 960x720, Completely legitimate meek cap.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20321199 Nice, me too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 07:27:30 2018 No.20321766 File: 199 KB, 912x848, 1497574021519.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HANDS DOWN EVERYBODY! POST YOUR 1CC CHARTS/PROGRESS OR ELSE SHE SHOOTS!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 07:48:42 2018 No.20321814 File: 11 KB, 400x823, 1cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20321766 Don't hurt me. Please.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 10:54:31 2018 No.20322535 >>20321766 ...shouldn't it be hands up?

Anonymous Wed Nov 28 12:12:08 2018 No.20322895

>>20321446
It's a little slower and less memorization-based, but mainly ZUN's patterns have way more depth to them. It's hard to describe if you haven't played them, but they strongly reflect the personalities of the characters and the setting with their form, names, and often synchronize with the music

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 13:35:27 2018 No.20323317 >>20322535 Nope.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 17:34:15 2018 No.20324388 >>20322535 Seija's the one talking, so...

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 21:05:05 2018 No.20325431 Why are the in-between games 1v1 fighting games instead of beat-em-ups where you can fight monsters much like the ones in the shmups as you go?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 22:39:50 2018 No.20325929 >>20325431 because fighting games are easier to make (if you don't care about balance) and tasofro are well known for being lazy shits

Anonymous Wed Nov 28 22:44:07 2018 No.20325940

>>20321446
Compared to arcade-style/CAVE shooters, Touhou
* is much slower-paced. Rapid dodging is usually needed in specific spell cards like Eternal Meek here >>20321562 (if it was a legit capture)
* has a lot more fixed patterns which aren't aimed directly at the player but are designed to look pretty while being dangerous at the same time
* requires less streaming. That's not to say it's not present but is usually only required in stage portions and specific spellcards
* has an easier learning curve. I'd say most arcade danmaku games are at least as hard as Touhou's Hard on their default difficulty
* makes heavy use of grazing in its scoring system. A lot of arcade shooters don't even have a grazing mechanics, in Touhou you get rewarded big-time for grazing (except in MoF and somewhat in SA)
* requires less memorization in that you can often make it through a situation through sheer skill

Essentially the stage portions of Touhou games are more like your average danmaku, where you have a bunch of enemies firing bullets that are mostly aimed at you. The bosses are the unique part that makes the series stand out. Each game is also different in its own way, particular in scoring and how you get extra bombs and extends.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 22:48:13 2018 No.20325955 >>20325929 They made Grief Syndrome so they obviously have the tech to do it, just not the go-ahead from ZUN.

Anonymous Wed Nov 28 22:54:48 2018 No.20325979

>>20313320
YGB but I've never bothered to route it, just bomb
Hell Eclipse always fucks with me because of the randomness involved

Let's reverse this. What's the easiest survival spell? The Extra stage ones seem to be much easier than ones that appear in the main game for whatever reason. After all the bullshit before it Trinitarian Rhapsody is almost like a joke. It only becomes remotely dangerous towards the end. Possessed by Phoenix is pretty similar and even easier because the game has spell practice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 22:59:59 2018 No.20325999 >>20325979 Youkai Polygraph.

Anonymous Wed Nov 28 23:00:06 2018 No.20326000

>>20325955
its not that they aren't capable of doing it, but they probably wanted to get a long term contract with ZUN by doing something that could be more popular and secure a good number of sales so they decided to go for a fighting game. I may be wrong but I think people were asking for a fighting game at that time, but sice I wasn't into touhou at the time I can't tell for sure.

Either way, dunno about the sales of the last 2 games, but I hope tasofro moves over something other than fighting games for touhou given the poor reception HM and ULiL had.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 23:11:28 2018 No.20326044 >>20313320 So, are we all just going to ignore Fantasy Nature?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 23:15:18 2018 No.20326058 >>20325999 I don't think survivals get any easier than that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 28 23:17:18 2018 No.20326061 >>20326058 That's what he asked for, right?

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 00:18:58 2018 No.20326300

>>20325431
Because they had the experience and engine from having made Eternal Fighter Zero. And then it became sort of tradition so they just kept going.

>>20326000
>the poor reception HM and ULiL had
Objectively non-existent except for you Chileans and your shitty secondary RNGtrash game for secondaries.

Sokushit is never NEVER coming back, why can't you kill yourself already and leave the rest of the world alone?

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 01:44:57 2018 No.20326612
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Are doujin games welcomed? If so, how to get Touhou Puppet Dream Performance Yume no Kakera translated? All patches I found so far only translate interface but dialogues remain japanese.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 01:52:31 2018 No.20326634 >>20325431 What "monsters"? All of the non-bosses in touhou are just fairies or blobs of energy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 02:16:14 2018 No.20326720 >>20326612 >Are doujin games welcomed? No.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 02:20:49 2018 No.20326729 >>20326634 Fairies are monsters, though. They're beasts. Sex beasts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 03:47:32 2018 No.20327002 File: 167 KB, 512x512, FaceTensei_bk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20326720 Yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 04:08:33 2018 No.20327074 >>20326612 Yes.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 07:08:38 2018 No.20327701

>>20325940
The big difference you're missing here is that traditional arcade shmups usually have some sort of a bullet canceling mechanic and huge part of the gameplay revolves around it.
With Touhou - save for two exceptions - that's not really the case.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 07:12:23 2018 No.20327727 >>20326612 Some of them are, but definitely not that trash. Make your own thread if you care that much, but my advice would be not to play that hot steaming pile of cow manure in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 07:26:06 2018 No.20327792 >>20326634 Who says you need to stick with the mainline games? Touhou features such a wide variety of monsters in its lore you could make ten beat-em-up games out of it and still have some leftovers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 07:59:29 2018 No.20327982 >>20327727 I get that it has completely different from actual Touhou, and it wouldn't be relevant to the thread, but TPDP is by no means bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 08:01:27 2018 No.20327998 >>20326300 Didn't ULiL have the urban legend effects, which was pretty much the same as weather?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 10:49:07 2018 No.20328911 >>20327727 Why is it actually bad? I have been playing for two hours and haven't found anything disturbing or what I could call disgraceful.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 11:01:35 2018 No.20328966
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What are some good tips for capturing "Most Valuable Vajra"? I don't die to it but I always get cornered by the lasers and forced to bomb.

>>20326612
The translation patch came out a few months ago, check the archives for the Puppet Dance threads and there should be a link

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 11:45:23 2018 No.20329176 >>20328966 Thank you, found it!!! You just should stick around the center when they are away from you, then, when they get faster, follow closely the leading one.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 12:10:37 2018 No.20329308

>>20327998
They always happened at specific times during a match. They were still random, but they're much easier to plan around, so it doesn't disrupt the skill parts of the gameplay nearly as much as "lole now your getting pulled to each side out of nowhere xddddd"

So no. Soku is shit, stop comparing it to actually good games and go fuck yourself.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 14:08:01 2018 No.20329785

>>20329308
>so it doesn't disrupt the skill parts of the gameplay nearly as much as "lole now your getting pulled to each side out of nowhere xddddd"
But that's exactly the effect of one of the occults? I don't even play the fighting games that much, but I just found it kinda odd you would hate it on soku yet let it slide on ULiL. I'm not even insulting you, man, chill the fuck out.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 15:43:26 2018 No.20330281

>>20329785
>But that's exactly the effect of one of the occults?
No? It's not? Retard?
>but I just found it kinda odd you would hate it on soku yet let it slide on ULiL
It's almost like one isn't as disruptive as the other? Like I just fucking told you? Just now? Remember?

Are you done yet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 15:50:50 2018 No.20330324 >>20330281 Why do fighting games make people go so fucking autistic? Can't you enjoy fighting games and not be an asshole?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 16:54:35 2018 No.20330671 File: 17 KB, 322x480, Sword of Scarlet Perception.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20329308

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 17:12:38 2018 No.20330772 >>20327701 >usually Not really. It's definitely a common theme and can define how a game plays, but to say non-Touhou STGs "usually" have bullet canceling is a gross misrepresentation.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 17:30:12 2018 No.20330869

>>20326300
HM physic is literally shit and ULiL only got any hype for Kasen's appearance, and ULiL also had a fucking DLC only aviable for PS4

Stop trying to defend those shitty games like there were better just because "muh RNG", weather can be easily controlled by using a fucking card but you are too autist to even notice that

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 18:29:38 2018 No.20331163
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>>20330869
The only thing literally shit here is your skill level. That's why you need RNG because otherwise you'd never win fucking shit.
>DLC
Oh no, secondarybait from sokushit. Whatever shall I do? Nevermind that AoCF includes her anyway.

>Stop trying to defend those shitty games like there were better
I'm not doing that. I'm defending them because they ARE better. More creative gameplay instead of being generic anime fighter but with a lot more projectiles, a far more varied cast, much better looks and sounds, and lack of out-of-player's-control bullshit in the cases of HM and AoCF (and even then ULiL at least has the courtesy to reduce it). You just hate the lack of super invasive RNG because it means you actually have to put in any sort of effort to get anywhere instead of button mash your way to a resolution the computer decided for you ahead of time.

And no, weather can't be "easily controlled" we fucking had this discussion before.

>>20330671
No I don't understand what you're trying to get at with your monkey poop painting. Can't you use words to communicate ideas, like human beings do?

>>20330324
>god hm and ulil are so bad and shit and had bad reception from my proud white country i wish they'd go back to my waifu sakura's game, soku :(
>Fuck off, retard.
>WOW CAN'T YOU ENJOY FIGHTING GAMES AND NOT BE AN ASSHOLE
Die.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 19:05:39 2018 No.20331310

>>20331163
First off: Who are you quoting?
Second: I don't give a shit about soku, I've said exactly nothing bad against ULiL. I've already said I hardly play fighting games, but here you are with your persecution complex and piss poor manners, constantly making an ass of yourself. Repeat after me: It's just a game. I really should just relax.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 19:31:53 2018 No.20331442

>>20331310
>I don't give a shit about soku
It sure seems like it, especially coming from the guy that first went "hurr new games bad old games for secondaries good pls go back to rngshit tazerbro"

inb4 t-that wasn't me!!!!
Are you going to fuck off or what, you moronic cretin.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 19:42:53 2018 No.20331506

>>20331442
>inb4 t-that wasn't me!!!!
Anon, it literally wasn't me. My only offense was daring to state that ULiL and Soku share a mechanic. It's nothing to get so worked up about. I just came here to discuss shmups, not whitstand your fighting game fueled autistic screeching.

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 20:03:08 2018 No.20331628

>>20331163
>Nevermind that AoCF includes her anyway.
And? You can't play as her on ULiL anyways, just becase they added her in a later game doesn't change anything

>More creative gameplay
Like 2 or 3 character max have any creativity to their gamestyles, the rest are just pretty-colored attacks

>a far more varied cast
literally whos doesn't make the cast more "varied"

>much better looks and sounds
the new engine that made the game feel like shit, even ZUN said it was bad

>and lack of out-of-player's-control bullshit in the cases of HM and AoCF
because you can't do shit while being in mid air

> it means you actually have to put in any sort of effort to get anywhere instead of button mash your way to a resolution the computer decided for you ahead of time.
You are trolling at this point. HM took away any sence of gamestyle making it just a random button smash to win, you don't have do shit to win other than spamming the same "combo" (because pressing the same button 3 times in a row makes for a combo now) to win any fucking fight because attacks now are much more spammier or cover a whole lot of the screen.

The skill level for HM and onwards got nerfed hard, same goes for alternative builds and stuff. HM became a casual game with characters from touhou, some pretty attacks here and there and literally 0 skill involved to win, as combos were ditched out of the gameplay and we got a 2-button "combo" instead.

AoCF actually made some decent gameplay that's why I didn't mentioned it

Anonymous Thu Nov 29 20:27:21 2018 No.20331782

>>20331628
You still haven't answered why I'm supposed to be obsessed with secondaryshit like you are. If I wanted Reisen so fucking badly I'd play Hisoutenchilean instead. Not like it matters in that shit game, she's just a projectile-vomiting sprite. Argue all you want that only 2 or 3 characters in HM-era fighters are creative, that's still 1 or 2 more than Sokushit.

>characters actually really relevant to Gensokyo such as Kasen, Sumireko and Doremy
>hurr literally whos
And I bet you wouldn't be saying this at all if they had been in Soku. This is why I fucking hate secondaries.

>the new engine that made the game feel like shit
Chilean opinions don't matter.
>even ZUN said it was bad
[citation needed]

>because you can't do shit while being in mid air
You can't apparently play the games either.

>You are trolling at this point.
Please. You're saying this while pretending as hard as possible that Sokushit doesn't involve doing whatever because whether you win or lose is 100% dependent on what the computer feels like. Oh, that powerful and useful move that could mean the difference between winning and losing? "You can't use it now because lol -RNG". 10/10 Chilean game design, right there. Not that it matters to you, because it means you can win matches and feel like you're one of them MLG pro players or whatever when in any real game they would destroy you. And you're calling HM a casual game, what a fucking disaster you are.

>>20331506
>Anon, it literally wasn't me.
Good, so are you going to fuck off or what, you moronic cretin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 21:01:54 2018 No.20331993 >>20331782 If you get this mad at discussing games, I'm not entirely sure how could you ever muster the patience for any 1cc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 23:08:14 2018 No.20332524 >>20331163 Who the fuck are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 23:18:01 2018 No.20332563 >>20331782 >whether you win or lose is 100% dependent on what the computer feels like. so i take it you were never any good at soku in your life

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 23:30:15 2018 No.20332608 >>20331993 Literally not an argument. And I do have 1ccs aplenty, thank you very much. >>20332563 How do you get good at the lottery?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 29 23:33:49 2018 No.20332631 >>20332608 Oh, are you the PoFV autist?

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 00:30:49 2018 No.20332821
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>>20331782
>Ichirin, Futo, Nitori, Mokuo
yeah sure, that's a lot of important people right there, literally the essence of touhou project

>I bet you wouldn't be saying this at all if they had been in Soku.
Even soku has a far better list of characters, despite being a game that focuses on pvp rather than story

>Chilean opinions don't matter
whatever makes you feel better with yourself faglord

>whether you win or lose is 100% dependent on what the computer feels like
You'd have to be smashing random buttons for that to happen, which only tells me how much you suck at Soku

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 01:15:06 2018 No.20332963

>>20332821
Of course a Sokuchilean would be unironically proud of not knowing shit. You wouldn't know what the "essence of Touhou Project" was even if it started biting your face but you couldn't pry it off because that card wasn't available in your RNGshit deck.

>You'd have to be smashing random buttons for that to happen
Thanks for not denying that the computer's whim is literally the only factor that matters in Soku """matches""". Now go be a disgusting secondary somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 02:32:15 2018 No.20333267 >>20332631 that would explain a lot, they sound pretty similar

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 04:40:30 2018 No.20333677 File: 775 KB, 1660x825, Touhou Checklist (351-440).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20321766 Today I completed GFW and PoFV, yay EoSD next

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 04:58:42 2018 No.20333718 >>20332631 Yep. It's the same nigga. >>/jp/thread/S19698655#p19723571 https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/1479212549749/image/eqB2dEHYTv04CKmWHs69Yg/

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 06:16:57 2018 No.20334010 >>20333718 Wow it all makes perfect sense. I bet "SoSD mods are cheating" screeching is his doing as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 06:18:50 2018 No.20334022 >>20334010 EoSD*

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 07:00:14 2018 No.20334226 >>20334010 This guy can't fucking dodge a stray bullet that isn't 100% static so he probably shitposts anything related to EoSD as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 07:26:50 2018 No.20334395 >>20332608 >How do you get good at the lottery? You should be able to defeat any player 50% of the time then, right?

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 08:00:45 2018 No.20334579

>can get all the way through Alice without getting hit or using bombs even once
>lose half my lives to the Prismriver level (not the sisters, just the level before them)
>lose the other half to Youmu
>Yuyuko kills me
this is basically how every single one of my PCB runs go

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 08:27:30 2018 No.20334751 >>20334579 guess you need to practice the prismriver level more does PCB have practice mode?

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 09:33:16 2018 No.20335151

>>20334579
Stage 4 is glorified streaming. Those thingies that puke bullets at different speeds only do so when they die, don't kill them and they shoot easier patterns. Stay still and dodge.
Youmu is actually hard, so you'll just need to get better at that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 09:33:51 2018 No.20335153 >>20334579 Go watch a PCB LNNN replay. You can replicate Stage 4 movement regardless of difficulty and most Youmu and Yuyuko patterns work similarly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 09:34:30 2018 No.20335158 >>20332963 >You wouldn't know what the "essence of Touhou Project" was even if it started biting your face but you couldn't pry it off because that card wasn't available in your RNGshit deck. So, what's the essence of the series, then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 10:58:48 2018 No.20335697 >>20334395 If the computer gives me all the best moves and fucks over the opponent 50% of the time, sure. >>20335158 Stop being a sokusecondary and you'll find out!

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 13:20:12 2018 No.20336393 >>20332963 >Thanks for not denying that the computer's whim is literally the only factor that matters in Soku """matches""" You probably are the kind of guy who'd complain about PoFV being too "random", I pity you, despite being a moronic faglord

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 13:27:57 2018 No.20336426 >>20335697 >Stop being a sokusecondary and you'll find out! What did you say back the, oh right, >Literally not an argument. If you claim to know so much about the series, you got to back it up.

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 14:27:20 2018 No.20336690

>>20336393
Not an argument.

>>20336426
Firstly, I claimed no such thing. This knowledge bullshit started when YOU reacted with pride and happiness over NOT knowing who characters are and what they do.
Which leads me to my second point: I don't owe shitty secondaries like you a DAMN thing. If you're interested in knowing more about Touhou, you're welcome to do the thing everyone else did - play the fucking games. Oh but wait, most of them don't have secondarybait shit like you're le epic waifu sakuya, do they? I guess you'll be staying a willfully ignorant secondary then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 15:30:17 2018 No.20337083 Are there rough success rates to aim for on Books, SM and SG before attempting LNB?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 15:43:18 2018 No.20337158 >>20337083 If you're not going for low miss then nah, not really. As long as you approximately know what to do for those patterns just go for it and pray.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 16:42:39 2018 No.20337425 Newfag here. Been practising EoSD for 5 months now on normal mode and I've been stuck on level 4 for around 3 months. I can't seem to git gud or improve in any way. Should I just quit?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 16:59:22 2018 No.20337507 >>20337425 How do you practice? Do you just play the game and try to make more progress than your last attempt or are you making use of Stage Practice?

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 17:02:10 2018 No.20337527

>>20337425
Have you really been practicing, or just grinding your face against it without learning anything? Tried watching any replays? Do you know basic strategies to begin with? If you're looking for more specific pointers, you'll need to give a more specific description of which parts you're having trouble with.
But in any case, you definitely shouldn't give up, Normal is very doable once you know what to do and/or develop some effective practice techniques.

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 17:07:31 2018 No.20337553

>>20337507
>>20337527
I use stage practice a lot, but I'm just too autistic to learn and memorise the patterns so I always make the same mistakes even though I know what I'm doing wrong. I know about streaming, and safespots, and I've watched many replays from others. I lose my temper quickly because I'm unable to learn simple practice techniques in a short time and I have a very slow reaction time. I'm probably too retarded for bullet hell games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 30 17:28:49 2018 No.20337662 >>20337553 >I have a very slow reaction time This doesn't matter as much as you think it does.

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 17:37:08 2018 No.20337707

>>20337553
Hmm sounds very similar to me when I was starting out about a year ago, how much do you actually play? I used to get really angry at myself if I fucked up something simple after 30 minutes of playing and then not play for a few days so in a month I played about the same as someone would in a week.

Of course it's up to you if you want to give up but since you've kept going it tells me that you want to improve and I would recommend you to just keep trying, don't look at how many months it's been since you started because that probably won't make you feel better, it just takes longer for some people and I am definitely one of those people.

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 17:41:14 2018 No.20337727

>>20337553
I was around this bad starting out and have a fair amount of normal 1ccs now. If you're playing EoSD, make SURE you're using the vpatch, I couldn't 1cc it for years and when I used the patch I did it with 4 lives left over 1st try. You also might want to consider bouncing around between the other games, it doesn't help mechanically but it can relieve a lot of the fatigue.

Anonymous Fri Nov 30 23:48:21 2018 No.20339150
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>>20239931
>>20240273
I just came across this fix I made a while back for someone that wanted to practice nonspells in HSiFS.
Using a hex editor, copy and make these changes to the game's executable:
At 0x043139, replace 48 with 90.
At 0x01C8E7, replace 518D8EBC020000E89D8CFEFF with 3EC744240400000000909090.
You'll be invincible and timeout is disabled, so as long as you don't attack the boss you can practice a pattern infinitely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 09:54:20 2018 No.20341469 >>20339150 Cheating is bad. I should call the touhou police.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 09:59:35 2018 No.20341514 File: 240 KB, 600x750, 1406494451266.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20341469

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 14:01:44 2018 No.20342794 >>20339150 Can this count as a 1cc?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 16:36:14 2018 No.20343547 >>20342794 You count as 1 cheeky cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 21:14:06 2018 No.20345065 File: 814 KB, 339x336, party hard zun.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I managed to clear Mikos last three spellcards on normal on spell practice in like 5 minutes after not playing for like one week.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 02:50:08 2018 No.20346393 >>20337553 >but I'm just too autistic to learn and memorise the patterns Isn't being autistic a literal opposite of that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 01:05:46 2018 No.20351776 >>20339150 Can you make infinite release?

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 10:13:33 2018 No.20353667

>>20337553
Losing your temper might be one of the worst things to do in these type of games, I speak from experience I also get tilted when I constantly fuck up simple shit that I can easily do, just take a break or go practice another stage or spellcard, ignore the urge to prove to yourself you can clear the games and make the act of playing fun. Think of every attempt as a opportunity to fail in a better way than as a opportunity to instantly win.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 12:49:54 2018 No.20354496 Koishi's Release of the Id and Super-Ego are driving me mad, I can't track those hearts for shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 15:18:34 2018 No.20355392 File: 75 KB, 342x260, 1466725031480.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Started streaming again. This time we are going for IN NMNB No Focus extra (with imperishable shooting capture). https://www.twitch.tv/fulgen8

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 22:52:28 2018 No.20357571 >>20354496 You'll get it eventually, it's a pretty difficult exercise for Normal players. Note there's a rhythm to it, and the hearts are more forgiving than they look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 11:43:12 2018 No.20360494 Violet Detector 2 when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 13:32:26 2018 No.20361136 >>20360494 hopefully never

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 14:19:11 2018 No.20361417 >>20360494 hopefully soon

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 22:12:04 2018 No.20363560
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I'm an anon who got bullied so hard by PCB Hard and TD Extra that I more-or-less ragequit the series for a while. I decided to stop letting the games bully me, so I skipped PCB for now and moved on to IN Hard, and maybe it's just the change of pace from endlessly playing PCB but I'm feeling a lot more comfortable already. It's been a day and I already got to Stage 5 without continues, while I struggled to beat Stage 4 without continues in PCB despite practicing it for months.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=45609

I appreciate any advice I can get other than "why the hell don't you bomb more?" because I already know that's my biggest problem and I'm trying to bomb more but old habits die hard. When it comes to some of Keine's spells I'm not sure if I'm better off just trying to kill Keine faster with Remilia or taking out her familiars with Sakuya. I'm also laughably terrible at all the Last Spells but they're optional so that's alright for now. I'm hoping I can get a Hard 1cc on both 6A and 6B by the end of the month and break the funk PCB put me into. Wish me luck, /jp/!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 23:17:54 2018 No.20363820 >>20363560 I really don't like PCB The music and all that is great, but I'm stupidly bad at it compared to every other game

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 00:01:34 2018 No.20363955 >>20363820 use vpatch

Anonymous Wed Dec 5 03:57:14 2018 No.20364563
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>>20363560
For Keine's nons you just just focus after killing 2 familiars. In fact you can apply that logic to some of her spells too.
Overall your early game is fine, you just need to route stage 4 and practice Reimu, see if this is of any use to you http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44751
That said, I'm glad that you are back anon!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 11:25:31 2018 No.20366069 Started playing. Started with 6 (even though I heard it was one of the hardest). Always die to dumb shit and can't make it past 3rd level without a game over on normal...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 11:37:42 2018 No.20366122 >>20366069 Don't worry. It's normal to die that much in the beginning. Your eyes will get used to the bullets and you'll have no problems.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 12:10:45 2018 No.20366252 >>20355392 >posting stream in jaypee is this 2012

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 12:22:09 2018 No.20366300 >>20366069 Good luck anon. EoSD is actually one of the easier games in terms of its patterns on Normal. The difficulty mostly exists in the form of giving you less lives than later games and the bosses having a lot of randomness to their patterns,

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 00:57:45 2018 No.20369966 >>20366069 >I heard it was one of the hardest lol wut, where?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 10:20:22 2018 No.20371749 >>20357571 Heh I finally got it and now they both looks like a low risk spellcards that I'm going to capture every time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 15:54:06 2018 No.20373264 >>20366069 >I heard it was one of the hardest Not sure where you heard that from, but it's actually one of the easier ones. 6,7,8,10 and 13 are the easy games. 11,12,14,15 and 16 are the difficult ones.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 15:59:30 2018 No.20373300 >>20373264 >14, 16 >hard What?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 16:07:56 2018 No.20373361 >>20369966 >>20373264 Well I mean, EoSD IS the hardest LNN, amybe he heard that from people that are into that/watch that kinda thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 16:09:18 2018 No.20373370 >>20373264 SA being hard to 1cc is my favorite meme. http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21714

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 16:35:42 2018 No.20373540

>>20369966
>>20373361
The misconception of 6 being particularly hard is constantly getting spread around the net, and you have to remember, there are way more people who don't have the firsthand experience to verify it, but hear and repeat it anyway, than there are people who know better. As for how it got started, I think there are a few reasons.
Probably the main one is that most people who try to get into playing Touhou start with 6, because of course it makes sense to start with the first one and work your way up. But most people also don't read the manual (as we well know from these threads alone), so of course all these people get wrecked because they have no idea what they're doing, and they come away with the impression that the game is super hard. Whatever game they play next, they're bound to have an easier time with, partly because they've built up a bit of basic experience from failing at 6, but also because every other game has quality-of-life helpers like a visible hitbox, the enemy position indicator, and some kind of exploitable extra mechanic. Because every subsequent game seems easier, unless and until they go back to it after playing for a while, and see it with fresh eyes, they'll have no reason not to believe that 6 is harder then average.
On the other hand, people who start with the newer games and work back may be thrown off by how different it is from the rest of the series; not only the aforementioned lack of helpful features, but also the different style of danmaku favoring fast dodging. Again, a first impression of difficulty can stick pretty easily.
There's also the problem of 6 having artificially inflated difficulty if you don't use vpatch, and as you mentioned, simple misunderstandings when taking about Lunatic v Normal, and effects of people getting psyched out merely by hearing that 6 is hard and making it a self-fulfilling prophecy, and so on, you could probably come up with more if you got creative. There's no shortage of sources of misinformation.

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 18:26:03 2018 No.20374162

>>20373370
My favorite one is claiming that SA doesn't require any dodging and can be 1cc'd just by pressing the bomb button.
But we both know that it doesn't really work that way.
He makes it look really easy in that replay, but that's because he can already dodge all that stuff perfectly fine without bombing.
If you're a Lunatic player, then sure, you won't have any trouble with clearing it the way he does it in that replay, but most below-lunatic-tier people won't be able to pull that off, so let's not pretend like all you have to do is press the bomb button to 1cc.

>>20373300
They are to me, but maybe I'm in the minority.
If that's not the general consensus then I apologize.

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 18:50:43 2018 No.20374282

>>20374162
I think you missed the point of the replay. It isn't meant to show that anyone can easily beat the game by constantly bombing over and over again but rather that if someone learns basic routes for the stages, they can bomb through any remotely difficult boss pattern and still come out fine with their resources. I'm just tired of seeing misconceptions spread that games like SA or LoLK are impossibly difficult compared to every other Touhou game because it leads to people who don't know any better to assume that they're unapproachable without devoting tens if not over a hundred hours getting good enough to beat them on Normal.

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 19:17:10 2018 No.20374408

>>20374282
>if someone learns basic routes for the stages, they can bomb through any remotely difficult boss pattern and still come out fine with their resources

This can be said about any of the games though, especially if you pick the right shot type and can abuse the game's gimmicks.
The way he's playing where 90% of the run you spend having zero extra lives and the slightest mistake will end your run is arguably more difficult than trying to clear it the normal way. Not to mention he does plenty of dodging there, so this replay really doesn't prove anything.

>I'm just tired of seeing misconceptions spread that games like SA or LoLK are impossibly difficult compared to every other Touhou game

If we're just talking about the difficulty of the danmaku patterns themselves then yes, SA and LoLK are really difficult.
Otherwise, technically LoLK is piss easy, possibly even the easiet Touhou, because you can clear it in PD mode which gives you unlimited retries.

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 19:38:41 2018 No.20374481

>>20374408
Which is exactly my point. Yet certain games like SA and LoLK have misconceptions surrounding them despite their clears being no more difficult than most other game if you've learned their basic mechanics. How does the replay not prove anything? It's a clear-cut example of how generous the resource system is and how much of the game can be borderline trivialized by making use of it.

If people were asking about danmaku difficulty then sure that would be a fine instance to use them as examples. Most people aren't asking about that though. They just want to know which games are the easiest or hardest to 1cc and I don't think SA or LoLK should automatically be on the latter half of the spectrum which tends to be the case with most people you see answer the question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 23:57:14 2018 No.20375431 File: 514 KB, 221x231, 1540692092738-1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just got to TD last boss with 3 lives and like 6 bombs and I fucked it up.

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