/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[DJT - Daily Japanese Thread !tzQvVnajGk No.]

Guide & resources:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
https://djtguide.neocities.org/ (legacy)

Previous thread: >>20158748

TL;DR Guide:
1. Install one of these mouseover dictionaries:
https://foosoft.net/projects/yomichan/ (cross-browser)
https://forum.koohii.com/thread-15119.html (cross-browser)
https://github.com/wareya/nazeka (firefox only)

2. Read this: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/ixrec.html#Alphabets

3. Do this: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html

4. Read this: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/sakubi.html

5. Read and listen to CompellingContent™ made by and for native speakers as often as you can manage. See the resources guide for tools to aid with these tasks.

[Anonymous No.]

haha hey matt here you know whats really cringe i mean besides my neckbeard receding hairline bedroom with manga and cartoons plastered all over it piss jug the fact i went to japan to live the high school dream only to eat toilet meshi and do flashcards instead my authoritative tone about things i have no idea about my wikipedia math all the material i parrot and try to pass off as my own my racist tendencies my blog from like 8 years ago where i said i wanted a japanese girlfriend that muramasa vid lmao that time i said "itchaban tsuyoee gaijeem ni nawitai" that time i said smugly that talking japanese for guyjims is just too cringe for me that time toilet head came over and i bottomed for him that time i tried to talk shit about jorge the japones from cero guy who was kindly patient with my autism that time i shit all over some kid irl about how hes learning japanese wrong and im the best and then talked about it on the internet and last but not least that time i realized i dont even like anything from japan and have no use for a language i dedicated my entire seisyun to and defined my existence by how great i was at learning it (in my mind) ?

the op (sheesh) and this https://streamable.com/d4prq

[Anonymous No.]

title in name field

already fucked

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder to set your Interval Modifier to 150%

[Anonymous No.]

People really need to leave thread making to people who know what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168703
no it depends on the person and types of cards

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't do vocab for 4 days, now says I have 600 due, what do ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168715
It really doesn't. Okay it does a little, but this is the best or very close to the best for almost any scenario

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168722
enjoy freedom

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168725
what about the scenario of learning japanese ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168731
It will greatly reduce the amount of reviews you do per day

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168689
>DJT - Daily Japanese Thread !tzQvVnajGk

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168747
it's a halloween prank

[Anonymous No.]

its ok dude i dont proofread my posts either and just press the button

[Anonymous No.]

and yet somehow your posts are always top quality

that's we love you jamal

[Anonymous No.]

>布団に入ったと思ったらもう朝で
>immediately after entering the futon it was already morning

Is this correct?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168789
Looks good to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168789
now this is a guy ready for some scanlating

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168789
Wat, what about 思った？shouldn't this be like "when I thought of getting in bed it was already morning"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168811
と思ったら
Expression
1. no sooner than; as soon as; immediately after​ See also かと思うと, after past tense verb
2. at the thought of; when I think about​ See also かと思うと

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168789
it means they thought they entered their bed but actually they fell asleep in their chair and slept in because they were dreaming about staying up late and then getting in bed after sunrise

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168821
>2. at the thought of; when I think about​

So I'm right possibly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168834
Since 入った is past tense, it makes me think that they actually got into the futon, not that they just thought about it. But that is mostly just a guess since I haven't really seen this expression before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168862
Looking at some example sentences and I think you are right. Past tense does seem to make the difference

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus Christ lmao

If you don't know Japanese then don't try to give people advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168789
I can't tell if you don't know Japanese or if you don't know English.

[Jeromevok No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

Discussion about Japanese is not allowed here. We are only allowed to discuss ****

[Anonymous No.]

m*** is based and redpilled on Japanese language-learning, so discussing him is the same as discussing Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

According to ****'s latest videos, he is now a ****hematician and no longer studying Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168928
literally the opposit is true, only a few youtubers are accepteable like dogen and curedolly

[Anonymous No.]

Where to find this doujin

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168689
>DJT - Daily Japanese Thread !tzQvVnajGk

[Anonymous No.]

i walk away for like 30 mins and look what happens to the thread

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168938
>dogen
Hmm... Let's see what he suggests
>spend first year reading about pitch accent
>spend next six months with Genki 1
>Don't watch anime
>Don't learn to read
>Watch j dramas with English subs
>Rewatch the same episode hundreds of times to master it
>Make highly edited and scripted videos to make it seem like you're better at Japanese than you actually are

Hmmm ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168938
stop sucking eceleb dick
>>20169035
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169035
don’t forget shitting in pants

[Anonymous No.]

nah dude dogens really good and sounds like native japan man https://streamable.com/vs094

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168938
That's not how you write Kizuna AI.

[Anonymous No.]

>Learn Japanese from eromanga
中出し

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169035
When asked how long it would take to get to his pitch accent level he said 2 hours a day for 2 years.
He never says don't watch anime, just that it's not the best resource for learning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168689
Can someone recommend good apps for general nippon learning on android?

So far I can recommend:
>Kana Town, for Kana and some simple words (pay option)
>Infinite Japanese, it's a game that introduces you to some words.

I can't recommend:
>Duolingo, very aggressive adds and notifications

So far I wasn't able to really find a good workflow for a complete beginner. Many programs are probably good for intermediate learners, but if you start out from zero it's pretty hard. Especially since most apps expect you to already know katakana and some kanji. Katakana seems completely useless and I would like to get introduced to new kanji step by step. Preferably learn all the radicals first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169098
how are you in this thread if youre completely from zero

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169098
You sound like a dekinai to me.
Ankidroid is great
Read textbook pdfs
>katakana seems completely useless
lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169098
OCR Manga Reader
TangoRisto
Aedict

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169101
why are you in this thread if you aren't? Shouldn't you be on 2channel or something?

>>20169104
Forgot about Anki. I understand why people use it, but honestly it's such a fucking hassle to find good sets and configure them properly. And I'm talking about hours of work, sorry if being dekinai, but this sucks. Katakana is unreasonable and shouldn't exist. I have no reason to learn it, other than learning programs forcing it onto me.

>>20169109
Thanks will check them out.

[Anonymous No.]

>Forgot about Anki. I understand why people use it, but honestly it's such a fucking hassle to find good sets and configure them properly. And I'm talking about hours of work, sorry if being dekinai, but this sucks. Katakana is unreasonable and shouldn't exist. I have no reason to learn it, other than learning programs forcing it onto me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169118
weird that youd be aggressive to me it was a legit question what is your japanese history tell me now or im 100% certain youre being some kind of weird troll

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169118
>Shouldn't you be on 2chan
gotteem

[Anonymous No.]

really sick of the trolls guys >_<

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169118
>Forgot about Anki. I understand why people use it, but honestly it's such a fucking hassle to find good sets and configure them properly. And I'm talking about hours of work, sorry if being dekinai, but this sucks. Katakana is unreasonable and shouldn't exist. I have no reason to learn it, other than learning programs forcing it onto me

Steve Kauffman?

[Anonymous No.]

Forgot about Anki. I understand why people use it, but honestly it's such a fucking hassle to find good sets and configure them properly. And I'm talking about hours of work, sorry if being dekinai, but this sucks. Katakana is unreasonable and shouldn't exist. I have no reason to learn it, other than learning programs forcing it onto me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169118
>honestly it's such a fucking hassle to find good sets and configure them properly. And I'm talking about hours of work, sorry if being dekinai, but this sucks. Katakana is unreasonable and shouldn't exist. I have no reason to learn it, other than learning programs forcing it onto me.
so do you want to learn Japanese or do you want to learn a few phrases to larp with?
Because it's seeming you want the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169118
anki is literally like 5 minutes to setup, start with vncore to get you started, I started with rtk but I'm starting to think that was a mistake, but I feel like it helped me in my later studies, but also it's hard to tell sometimes if it's really worth that much time.. since it was 3 months of work and I don't see many of those kanji much and might forget them

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169122
My history: I watched multiple work years worth of anime with subs or even dubbed. I tried to start learning japanese a couple of times. I guess I learned Kana two times already and mostly forgot it again after having other priorities in live.

Well I'm back and guess what, I'm at 90% Kana again and now I want to learn some words. Maybe 5 words a day and I started to watch anime with furigana subs. But I'd also like some more tools to help me learn, when I'm commuting. I will have about 2h each day to learn japanese on a mobile device.

>>20169143
Thanks I will give it a try. But honestly what do you expect I find if I start googling for vncore and rtk? I expect to find a few broken sets, with broken pictures, crappy audio that can't be turned off, or is even necessary to solve the card and lots and lots of kanji I have never seen right from the start.

[Anonymous No.]

You can't save everyone. Let it go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169166
so youre really not from zero completely youre like everyone else that would be here you have some animes under your belt and prolly know the basics like kawaii and suggoi and you know some kanas and maybe like 1 kanji

i cant help you with your mobile device issues but i would say if u can watch anime on them i would keep doing that until u have somewhere around 10000 hours of english subbed anime watched

then youll be in a pretty good spot from there to start learning japanese

you can even start learning sooner once u instinctively feel you can actually move on to other things but id still recommend the 10000 hours

gl dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169174
this advice is probably the best you're gonna get

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169166
Umm vncore is in the OP's link, but here:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1434910726
Just do that deck then. Start off with like 10 cards a day. Just something easy to get you started, you can quit later. I think context sentence cards are too overwhelming in the start. RTK is what you want if you don't care about shortcuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169170
this is me every thread you just dont see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u3KAaU7kFs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169174
haha I'm long past the 10k hours with english, french, spanish and german subs (not even kidding).

But I honestly struggle to find a good tool that spun feeds me new words in an efficient way.

I guess probably the fastest way really is using one of those manga tools and grind through each sentence and built my own deck during that.

>>20169184
I will give it a try thanks, but it will take way longer than 5mins to set this up.

[Anonymous No.]

Jamal, get a new trip so I can filter you again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169196
well then how difficult is this for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMx9DGl9Y0

>>20169200
dude i trusted yall with my trip and you broke it you only have your peers to blame

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169196
>But I honestly struggle to find a good tool that spun feeds me new words in an efficient way.
Are you for real?
Just pick up ANY piece of content

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169196
>but it will take way longer than 5mins to set this up.
>instal ankidroid
>30-60 seconds depending on your net speed
>click shared decks, then japanese, then like 5th down is this visual novel deck
>60 seconds
Probably under 2 minutes unless you're literally retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169204
Would be great if not on youtube and integrated in some useful tool that helps me understand what is going on there.

>>20169207
first I need an account (with a new trash mail acc), then a desktop tool, then a mobile tool. Then sync them. Then probably do a few additional things to have pictures and audio and stuff. If this deck is truly honestly good it might be worth it. But I did this process multiple times already, only to find out that the deck isn't suited for my personal learning method.

[Anonymous No.]

this is actually next level shit im goin to make some food yall keep him going

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169223
>first I need an account (with a new trash mail acc), then a desktop tool, then a mobile tool. Then sync them. Then probably do a few additional things to have pictures and audio and stuff.
wow all things I've never done and I've been using anki for 6 months

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169204
うんこちゃん！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169196
>I'm long past the 10k hours
You're not. You would be far beyond the beginner stage otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>うんこちゃん
それを私たちの新しいたわごとポスターの名前だ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169118
>Katakana is unreasonable and shouldn't exist.
how do you feel about capital letters

[Anonymous No.]

i wonder if nuke chan can read unko chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169296
Ｃａｐｉｔａｌ　ｌｅｔｔｅｒｓ　ａｒｅ　ｆｉｎｅ　ｂｕｔ　ｌｏｗｅｒｃａｓｅ　ｌｅｔｔｅｒｓ　ａｒｅ　ａｎ　ａｂｓｕｒｄ　ｍｅｄｉｅｖａｌ　ｉｎｖｅｎｔｉｏｎ　ａｎｄ　ｓｈｏｕｌｄ　ｎｏｔ　ｅｘｉｓｔ．

[Anonymous No.]

ok thats enough of that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=249

[Anonymous No.]

I need Japanese subtitles for 'Audition' a 1999 film. Where do I get them from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169223
>only to find out that the deck isn't suited for my personal learning method.
you're not going to make it if you need your hand held every step of the way, if you have preferences in your learning method that's great but it's up to you to customize what you actually do to fit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169326
if the r2 doesnt have it sorry for ya

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169336
>r2
?

[Anonymous No.]

Detective conan is probably the best anime to watch RAW

Pros:
-New characters every episode which allows you get experience different personalities
-New location/setting/murder weapon every episode which means diverse vocabulary bank. (The gang goes to Skiing, the Gang goes to a hotel etc.)
-The majority of the characters are Adult speaking in Masu language, which let be honest if you are ever going to talk in japanese you are going to be using this style of speech.
-Lot of visual cues allows you understand even with low comprehension (They almost always show a recite of the murder while conan is explaining how the killer did it.).
-Stand alone episodes with almost a nonexistent plot allows you to check pick and watch whenever or do extended breaks.

Cons:
-???

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169458
what about Lupin III and The Case Files of Young Kindaichi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169458
what about naurto ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169458
Is it easy to find raws of Conan? I know most older releases were hardsubbed, so you couldn't just turn them off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169472
Borutos Dad? What about him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169458
>Cons:
>-???
Boring as fuck show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169483
is he not the best anime ??

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168741
>>20168703
>>20168715
150% is super low. You'll end up with lots of useless reviews. 250 is more sane number. And don't forget to press reset ease after reviews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169493
250 makes sense with something self-reinforcing like sentence cards. not with much else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169493
unsure if you're joking about 250% interval modifier or you're confused between interval modifier and ease and trying to encourage 250% ease

[Anonymous No.]

not sure if i should trust any of u guys on what number to put into anki can u post ur approximate nihongo levels ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169508
N6 here.

[30 hours of raw anime and 4 vo(...) No.]

>>20169508
maybe we should start putting our credentials in the name field

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169481
AB has the majority of seasons soft subbed assuming you have got an account.

[Bachelor's degree in Japanese(...) No.]

I am completely qualified to give advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169528
matt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169508
just stay at 100%, if you feel at ease efter a couple of months (the mature cards right answers are above 85%) gradually raise it to 120%.

[3 months of leyline and can't (...) No.]

>>20169519
good idea.

[Bachelor's degree in Japanese(...) No.]

Enroll in classes at your local community college or university. You can't learn Japanese without a real native speaker teacher. Sure Anki and reading will help but these things are just a supplement to classes.

[dr nihongo phd No.]

ive written you a prescription for 10000 hours of english subbed anime

if you dont take your medicine you wont get better

[interpreted and understood Sub(...) No.]

You shouldn't use Anki for more than a year. Drink lots of anime, eat lots of manga and read lots of porn.

[Anonymous No.]

よがあけて

じゅういちがつだよ

おきぬけさむい

[Anonymous No.]

whys everyone so fulla SHIT in this THREaD???

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169823
Search the archives bud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169823
>>20169682

[Anonymous No.]

tried watching index for listening practice but man they had to leave a TON of stuff out that was in the LN, don't think i can do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169890
manga adaptations are usually ok and i really hate hate hate to be "that guy" who always goes "oh you liked the movie? ever heard of books sweetie :)??" but man

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169916
I slowly lost my hearing and went deaf at the age of six actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169939
That's cute.
>tfw no deaf girlfriend

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170032
my activity chart

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169184
Hey thanks again guys for this. vncore really is the set I looked for. I tried a few others already and was pretty fed up with anki because they all sucked (core 2k/6k and similar ones).

I guess with this and animelon nothing can stop me from getting fluent in japanese. yay!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170061
Don't have have like more than 20 ways of saying anything? I never encountered another language that has so many ways of saying the same thing. Most people complain about words with too many different meanings, but I think many words for the same thing is even more stupid. This in combination with a deeply evil writing system, with "different readings" makes this language probably the most unnecessary difficult language to learn. I guess they have an inferiority complex because the grammar is basically on bush people level, so they made up random shit to make it artificially complicated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170218
The conjunctions convey different nuance but they should get rid of most of them and communicate the nuance using some other word or tone in the sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170204
How did you collect their subtitles? They have subtitles for shows that aren't available anywhere else and I'd like to download them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170218
The reason a lot in Japanese seems to be extremely strange is because there was not united Japanese language before Meiji (1868). Most people in Japan couldn't even write or had a name, because they were just peasants. After Meiji peasants got names, but the langues was still extremely different depending on were you lived.

Now after the USA dropped two bombs on glorious Nippon, Japan were forced to unify a language which was never unified. So thanks to this, Japanese has so many things which were just taped together, so the USA won't drop a third bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170255
Well in that case I guess our suffering is somewhat justified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170371
[補説]文化庁が発表した平成18年度「国語に関する世論調査」では、「出る杭は打たれる」を使う人が73.1パーセント、「出る釘は打たれる」を使う人が19.0パーセントという結果が出ている。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170436
could do a vlookup to post duplicates side by side. could list them in same column and remove duplicates. what are you trying to accomplish as that'll narrow down what you should do up to and including deleting the spreadsheet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170551
oh actually now that i think of it the scariest thing i did was delete all my old outdated anki decks and start a new one (strictly for mining words that contain kanji i've never seen before)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170588
>strictly for mining words that contain kanji i've never seen before
that was a bad idea for me, making connections between different words with the same kanji makes the deck much easier

[Anonymous No.]

bearing witness to flashtards is pretty spooky

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170646
Lots of people used Anki vanilla for a very long time and with good results. There has been nowhere near enough testing of ****'s "optimisations" at present, and it doesn't bode well that the last time he tried "optimising" Anki he got everything so wrong because he didn't understand what he was doing that he had to take his video down and apologise to everyone for fucking up their decks and wasting their time.

This guy spent ages thinking up the original "optimisations", yet within hardly any time at all of the video going up people on DJT (and probably in the YouTube comments as well) were already pointing out all the easily visible problems with it.

I'm going to stick to the tried and true settings which have been proven again and again to work. Since I'm not a sentence mining retard, I would be lucky to even save a minute, giving him the huge benefit of the doubt that his "optimisations" actually work this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170691
changing anki settings has nothing to do with matt, it's just one more thing he is selling as if it's his own

[Anonymous No.]

>When I initially got serious about my YouTube channel, outside of an extremely small niche of people, AJATT was considered to be worthless joke by the entire greater community.
This isn't true is it? Language learning forums always pointed to AJATT as an example of immersion that works

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170753
>as an example of immersion that works
Well people generally still shit on immersion, usually with "everyone has their own learning style and not everyone has the spare time to dedicate to immersion".

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170756
Anki's algorithm is old and supermemo uses a newer and apparently better version of the algorithm but I think supermemo costs money so it's gay.

[Anonymous No.]

nerf wheel rolls too good xD

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170740
AB

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170760
i mean matt is full of shit but are you going to compare anki to the fucking wheel

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170796
its good enough save your fuckin "omg patch plz" shit for someone who gives a fuck and learn japanese instead

[Anonymous No.]

***tposting has got a little bit outa hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170811
oh shit is default anki vetted

[Anonymous No.]

we dont say "cuck" here we say n.t.r.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170812
i wouldnt know but with your post i rest my case

checkmate flashtards

>>20170815
you could improve your results by learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170815
literally just over 1/3 of a million flashcards

you must be filthy fluent by now

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170853
>second what does that have to do with japanese

Set your Interval Modifier to 150% and find out

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170864
set my nuts to your chin retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170848
stay salty dekinai

[Anonymous No.]

your simulation isn't a real person
real people remember cards they've known for longer better

[Anonymous No.]

real people dont do anki

[Anonymous No.]

friends dont let friends do flashcards

unless they have a good reason they can explain to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170910
it also means your simulation is garbage and shouldn't be used to give real people advice

spend more than half an hour thinking about something before releasing it to the world and misleading people with it

[Anonymous No.]

what's so bad about flashcards they're not that unbearable

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170965
This image must be posted on every thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171027
>Well, the forgetting curve is what SRS is based off of. Why are you using Anki if you think the fundamental assumptions of SRS are too inaccurate to use?
This is literally the exact opposite of an argument. Good job. Are you sixteen? You sound like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>posts retarded shit
>haha i meant to do that
>posts again to reaffirm that no im totally not retarded i meant to do that see what i did there im so clever haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171032
>telling everyone to use a flat interval modifier of 150% makes no sense. that's literally the same as using a default ease of 375 instead of 250 and editing anki to subtract 30 ease when a card flunks instead of 20 (or whatever the actual value is)

Correct... That's basic multiplication. What's you're point?

>here's an idea: do what i did and dump a bunch of peoples' review histories into a statistical analysis suite instead of writing a simulator that doesn't model how people actually work
>average card age affects retention

I'd love to see your data but you still haven't told me why this information affects my results. Having some cards be easier to remember and some cards be harder doesn't actually change the results of the simulation from when we had it just do the average retention on each card.

>different interval modifiers are for different retentions.

Correct, but 150 is a very safe bet unless your current retention rate is absurdly low

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171081
matts the underdog dude hes fighting

his opponent is the man made of straw

>>20171091
xdxdxdxd

[Anonymous No.]

>>20170841
>simulations
Simulations are worthless, especially since they were just made by random people from ****'s discord who, like ****, have no idea what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171086
okay since you somehow just actually fell for my extremely obvious lie about how the interval modifier works you should probably review your anki algorithm 101 textbook here

https://github.com/dae/anki/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ivlFct&type=

[Anonymous No.]

have no fear, someone who actually understands anki is here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171171
the red pill plugins were written by people who don't know how to program and barely understand how anki works, why should anyone use them

if you follow >>20171133 and never press the easy/hard buttons and delete cards you're annoyed with you get the same results

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171188
>the red pill plugins were written by people who don't know how to program and barely understand how anki works, why should anyone use them
>if you follow >>20171133 # and never press the easy/hard buttons and delete cards you're annoyed with you get the same results

You're immensely ignorant about how Anki works. This will not have the same effect

[Anonymous No.]

I want to thank the gold kokeshi patreons for indirectly helping me understand nihongonese.
thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

i only check in to this thread maybe once a month at most, and every time, without fail, you guys are talking about this "matt" character. why are you guys so obsessed with e-celebs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171230
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171244
It turns out he has nothing to say. He probably thinks linking to irrelevant code on github is impressive to people in this thread too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171338
Really grasping at straws to put someone down to feel better about your own shortcomings, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171348
no i'm just making fun of someone with a huge ego
about two years from now they'll be much more grounded and i might even reveal myself to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171338
i'm glad i'm not the only one who saw that tweet and thought to myself "holy shit what a naive young programmer"

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171390
Haha, that's fucking hilarious pajeet. Tell me more, please

>>20171387
>skid
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

no

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171393
whos the ass hole that got every1 sayin yikes again like its 1989

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171401
he fuckin deleted his post i cant believe this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171493
you got caught, good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171493
>having a job
Leave /jp/ you faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

。。。はなくもない is such a complicated way of expressing something so simple I'm going to use it all the time now to fuck with even shittier noobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw 8 new words a day is all i can handle and i'm only at 1580 so far
G-give me 3 more months, lads!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171721
You're doing something wrong. That's the number of words you can learn in a day by casually existing. With those numbers you shouldn't be spending more than 10 minutes a day on anki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171735
we discussed this last thread. furigana don't have to match. the furigana are what the person actually said. if the kanji say something else, it's a hint as to what they meant by it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171771
150 reviews take more than 10 minutes and i always make sure that i can read and understand the example sentences as much as possible with my existing vocab

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171828
Well never mind actually, I suspect it's something technical and not a general expression, probably it's about removing the "gap" which is something that animators would normally draw (unlike Disney's 24 fps, anime only have 12fps/8fps and rarely drawn in full 24 fps which created the "gap" between each frame).

However, thank you for answering my question.

[Anonymous No.]

ｆｐｓけいさつだ

こわっ

[Anonymous No.]

fpsは大事や

[Anonymous No.]

i know several people who came from djt who are fluent, try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171979
anecdotal account =/= evidence
facts don't care about your feelings sweetie not an argument

[Anonymous No.]

依頼者様の妹さんが
さらわれたほか
救助に向かった
通りすがりの冒険者も―
いまだ戻っていないと

The younger sister of the one who put up the request was kidnapped, and a wandering adventurer who went to find her hasn't come back yet.

i dont get what meaning ほか has here.
what "other"? ほか seems like a sentence ending particle here.

ほか - other (esp. places and things), the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172044
アイルランド人かよ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172044
おなかだした
じゃいもがたべたい

[Anonymous No.]

i love it when people give anecdotal evidence against something, someone else gives anecdotal evidence in favor of it, and then the original person tries to call out the second person for using anecdotal evidence

[Anonymous No.]

How's Takoboto for a dictionary? I see people dissing jisho.org and want an alternative

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172190
it uses an EXTREMELY outdated version of jmdict

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172216
jisho.org or your favorite j-j dictionary found on google

jisho.org is the least bad web jmdict dictionary because it actually includes all the tags and it autoupdates itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172227
Alright. Was using it to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

きょうは

ゲームをするしごとをします

[Anonymous No.]

>>20171201
Yea you can. Jamal directly led to newfags thinking they can shit up the thread with whatever nonsense they want.

[Anonymous No.]

youre free to unshit up the thread with whatever great posts you want

go ahead set the standard

in the meantime get over here assume the position and get ready for some more paddlin

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172368
Anki tech support shitposters and Jamal are about as close to polar opposites as you can get. They've been playing tug of war with these threads forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172449
Good.

[Anonymous No.]

きょうするゲームは

かぜをひいてしまったねこを

きもちよくねかしつけゲームです

むずかしい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172454
i was jk. how the fuck does getting into one debate about anki have a severe impact on these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172421
Mattposting is a retrovirus, it's everybody's fault for not having done the poor autist the favor of ignoring his vlogs.
For the rest of the "content" in these threads that explanation doesn't jive with my records. This thread has seen some real shit at the hands of our evil gods Anki and RTK and Jamal. Before we got kicked off /a/ it would occasionally degenerate into downright spam. Imouto would avatarpost and even Jamal would make the thread a toilet for his Japanese poems about musical chairs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172478
oh very nice that is some good efficiency

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172489
so that anon earlier wanting to modify vncore was right? wtf...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172496
jamal didn't link that video for nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172480
このさいきょうのどうぐで

ねこさんをごうもんにかける

[Anonymous No.]

no but i can read your post

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished RTK1&3. Only 30% of the deck is matured but wtf it seem like i can read anything now lol.

Its only take me about 3 months to do RTK because i was at N3 when i started this. But believe me im so fucking suck , i cant hear shit, pussy out everytime i see something not in textbook cuz i only remember like ~300 kanji.

Now I just finished a 25 hours game play eroge without dictionary, even if i cant read a phrase i still can understand 80% of it , feel so fucking good. Everything is like a kanji rep, im not a pussy when it come to reading anymore.

Passive/Active listening also boosted my listening skill like 500% no joke.

Worth it man , we all gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172595
After all these years of bliss gnorance you finally know the hard truth about decamerons, pagodas and acupuncturists

[Anonymous No.]

pig iron

[Anonymous No.]

whoa relax that words not ok dude

[Anonymous No.]

djt doesnt deserve a light as bright as this guy

[Anonymous No.]

is Saya no Uta good

[Anonymous No.]

yea but its gross

[Anonymous No.]

You can study kanji with RTK or whatever until they stop looking like scribbles then drop it
If you're serious about Japanese you will naturally pick up on the vast majority of kanji over time, you might struggle with look-alikes but when you find more words that contain Kanji you're unsure about your brain will naturally make connections and learn how to differentiate between them; you'll never confuse 線 with 緑 even out of context if you learn words like 新幹線 or 電線 and are often EXPOSED to them

[Anonymous No.]

yeah man radical freedom ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173096
hint: 計画通り

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173096
言うとおり
(exp) as (somebody) says
Please learn how to use a dictionary

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173112
usually when you give the answer it isn't considered a hint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173112
>>20173117
fuck i should've just checked the entire thing in a dictionary, I assumed it was some grammar structure that I couldn't pinpoint, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173125
watch more anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173118
it was a pretty helpful hint wasn't it

[Anonymous No.]

watching anime ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173125
It is a grammar structure that you couldn't pinpoint because it doesn't only work with 言う

[Anonymous No.]

>>20169118
>And I'm talking about hours of work, sorry if being dekinai, but this sucks. Katakana is unreasonable and shouldn't exist. I have no reason to learn it, other than learning programs forcing it onto me.
You're almost as dekinai as the people who ask how many weeks it takes to master hiragana

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173435
Have you learned Japanese yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173435
i'm probably the biggest popularizer of mattposting, since around may/june. i started a lot of arguments about him.

[Anonymous No.]

daily reminder that わたしはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173472
あんたはげいがない

[Anonymous No.]

what are some websites with japanese subtitles that aren't just for anime?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173618
nah, i dont have money for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173623

[Anonymous No.]

how do I get the r sound right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173648
you are Slavic

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173651
I told you what to do to get that sound right, it's fucking funny to me people have to learn that shit
and it will always sound unnatural, you'll be always conscious of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173648
You mock Japanese accents as an American kid and nail it because you're not a complete retard and realize that the Japanese r sounds similar to some American English sounds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173652
HelloTalk
HiNative

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173649
Are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173664
is it imperative to put "your" photo there and all that shit or do people chat without that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173672
>what do I do to X
>you are Y

what do you not understand, pal? Slavs can pronounce R, SZCZ and Ż, you can't pronounce shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173673
For HelloTalk put a pic of a sexy white guy, most of the jap ladies are on there looking for gaijin dick. For HiNative no pic required

[Anonymous No.]

any of you know good radio stations in japanese you can stream online

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173679
None of those are the japanese R

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173696
>implying you know anything about phonetics

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168689
As I'm currently trying to grind through all the radicals, I'm really starting to wonder how japanese really manage this. In all seriousness, the literacy among western people is already quite shocking, but how much worse does this have to be with japanese people.

This doesn't give me much confidence in them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNxPRBvRQg

It's clear that only otakus who play vidya and read manga are capable of some form of literacy. Women in general seem absolutely retarded tier.

So serious question, do you think the average nip is able to read a serious newspaper? And if so would they also be able to write one by hand, without using additional tools? I think especially for the writing part most nips would embarrass themselves quite badly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173734
yea I suspect there's something misleading about how literacy rates are gauged for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173742
Just watch at 4:33 : https://youtu.be/sJNxPRBvRQg?t=273

Good god those poor people. Just imagine how traumatized the have to be. They got probably laughed at by nerds all their damn school life long.

>>20173749
Look I'm not sure yet how far I will go with them. I guess for the moment they help me learn new words and I would be already be extremely happy if I can read about 400 of the most commonly used. I will never ever even attempt to learn to write them. Just like the cute girl said:
>We can just use hiragana

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173713
I know enough about my own language to tell you it ain't japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

daily reminder that i'm the original Yikes! poster (circa january 1989)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173769
no I just value my time and have no reason to learn it. Good for you if it's your hobby. But this absolutely egypt tier bullshit writing system currently slows down my language learning process, because most "proven" learning methods include learning kanji and reading text.

I'm currently at the very frustrating stage of knowing the meaning of some kanji, but not knowing how to pronounce them. This shit can literally only happen with kanji. There is a reason why 99.9% of all other languages have moved on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173809
not an argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173821
>litterally billions
well I'm not so sure about that. I would argue that probably many foreign otaku know way more kanji than your average japanese person on the street:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IARguDQIGVs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173830
its at least 1 billion

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173821
>your

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173838
its at least 1 billion
billions of people have learned them in the past though unless you have a disability or something there's nothing stopping you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20172595
English please.

>>20173734
Cool story bro but manga isn't reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173894
I have no idea how difficult the characters really were. But I guess "(slightly) diffucult" means core 6k or maybe even core4k. Just imagine how the situation will worsen with the current generation that grows up with computers and mobile devices. I wouldn't be surprised if the average japanese 18 year old girl doesn't use more than 400 kanji and has already problems with reading more than 1000.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173767
yoikes

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173961
My point is kanji is probably already way less important than some people claim it to be. Probably the last people really grinding it, is foreigners trying to learn the language, because all the learning methods revolve around it. I will do the same, but I guess it would save me precious time. If we only had more learning materials in pure hiragana, or at least furigana for that matter.

[Anonymous No.]

Japan will never get rid of kanji. America should have outlawed it when they had the chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173982
Nah that's all bad assumptions bro. Kanji makes it easier to read in general. Reading in pure hira/kata is a nightmare. Everybody graduates Japanese highschool knowing the Joyo set + the extra name set. If there are a few words they're not sharp on they can easily figure it out. Kanji isn't as hard as you think.. You have a brain perfectly designed for it.

[Anonymous No.]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0OmM941ucIG
am i doing it right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174037
Bout half there, still too much english R. Go more d on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174003
Oh God it's so good.... Well, there goes my no nut November

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173648

https://youtu.be/jtw47pAvHb8

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174075
>10 minutes to explain a 60 second concept


Truly a master of YouTube ad revenue

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174075
I feel so smug and smart for figuring this shit out almost instantly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173648
10000 hours of anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174075
based dogen

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174096
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0ccJU04DPbI

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ-YrNbMR0E&t=620

So then Matt's not lying when he says he has a larger vocabulary than Japanese natives?

[Anonymous No.]

you can tell he certainly doesnt have a working vocab anywhere near a native so it really doesnt matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174205
How about not watching any gaijin content at all then? No point watching non-natives speak Japanese in my op

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174196
According to the video, most natives treat him like he knows Japanese better than they do after talking to him

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174241
Does anyone on the internet toot his own horn as hard as m*tt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174251
Everyone in this thread that thinks they're better than him

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174266
i thnik everyone in this thread is better than him personally

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174272
https://streamable.com/l6h0h

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174278
why do any of you think you're past the N3 level?pretty sure 99% of you are at the same level as nukemarine

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174272
it makes sense that matt's better than us when you think about it. he's jewish and they have high verbal ability so of course he excels in language. i'm guessing most regulars in this thread are white and asian both of whom have average verbal ability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174292
>tfw you'll never be able to make nips laugh at your jokes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174292
カッコいい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174301
at least you got the "at" right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174162
you know you can live for more than what djt thinks of your favorite superhero
>>20174241
the idea that someone would genuinely believe this, whether it's him or you, is depressing but amusing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174075
Damn my retainer gets in the way of my tongue

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174311
why you so triggered, whiteboi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174332
more like why are you so triggered

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174299
America (アメリカ) looks like the word 'asshole' in Hebrew (מניאק)

[Anonymous No.]

i should start a patreon to raise enough money to afford the price on matts patreon to talk to him for a half hour and just run circles around him and destroy him and record and upload for all the sheepies to peepie

[Anonymous No.]

youd be buying your piece of japanese learning community history

[Anonymous No.]

Read New Game

[Anonymous No.]

read naurto

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174347
Yikes. I bet that sounded more impressive in your head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174375
even those titty can't make up for how boring it is to read

[Anonymous No.]

love hinas better and it isnt riddled with modern retard titty shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174390
i got through two volumes i don't think i can make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174395
i thought titty shit was your game what happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174405
theres a time and a place for it but now its everything all the time instead of just some of the things

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174344
Are there actual Israelis in these threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174412
1/2 is pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174398
Might aswell kill yourself then

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174390
I'm waiting for the next season of the anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174418
i think it's all about ridiculousness and not frequency, i'll never get tired of a titty i've accepted into my life but i'm not into the unwieldy titty

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174426
beautys just been lost on this generation dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174436
if you think the beauty lies in the titty you've got an entire body awaiting you and i am so jealous of the discoveries you have yet to make

[Anonymous No.]

how much time do i need to learn japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174442
a bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174438
i dont think that ? im saying now theres less beauty because its just fuckin all titty these bitches nowadays dont even look right look like some kinda retarded fuckdoll sketch instead of beautiful girl ┐(‘～` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

this generation doesnt know the value of a nice nape or epic ankle

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174452
>its just fuckin all titty
fair enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174347
the problem is that you're not going to do anything like this. you're never going to demonstrate that you're competent. so when you call matt bad nobody really takes you seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174467
matt good bad somewhere in the middle what bearing does it have on you learning japanese

look at his sheeps and what theyve accomplished in the last year as far as i know none of em can do shit

take the hint and fuckin watch some anime dude

[Anonymous No.]

Is Matt right that the average VN is actually easy compared to LNs and that VNs are generally between manga and LNs in difficulty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174015
no it's not that. I was never interested in it. I'm only interested in understanding and speaking. But I started learning it, because it's hard to get even good flashcards in kana only. I get the point, that sometimes it's quite easy to learn the meaning of a kanji. But then I only learn to read it, not to understand or even say it. This way I woulnd't be able to talk to people, only to read the newspaper.

>>20174026
There is enough proof out there, that even japane people are very very confused and seem unable to read a book on even Harry Potter level. But like I already said, I don't really care about this. It's just very unfortunate for people who are not interested in reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174490
i have read 1/3 of one vn and 1/4 each of two lns and i can confirm from this extensive experience that vns are a little easier than lns

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174490
yeah on a scale of soup to nuts theyre about an apple and oranges are about two grapefruits so what you really wanna do is deepthroat my banana

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174490
depends on the vn, but i've encountered way more obscure term/vocabulary in visual novels.
Also if you want difficulty web novel are far more difficult than both vn and ln.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174508
matt didn't meet james in person we'd all know if that happened

[Anonymous No.]

yeah id mysteriously stop posting for some duration lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174526
yeah you'd take the first offer he made for you to become his personal shill in djt, you've been thinking out loud about how to get a cut for a while now

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174541
>especially not in a language where even native people need their whole school life to get considerably literate.
they don't, but they are distracted learning everything else you learned in your own school life (and they're also young and suck at learning and many aren't particularly motivated to learn it) so their efficiency with picking up the writing system is low
you're right that you don't need to read, but i think you underestimate the benefits of having more connections to be made, since making connections is basically what your brain does

[Anonymous No.]

Hey dudes its been 2 weeks since i started reading and while i've been reading faster nothing seems to be clicking

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174541
its cuz you are autistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174390
I wish I could but I have to manually look up too much shit which is a pain in the butt :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174541
The average American is graduating high school with a fifth-grade reading level, don't let the average person be your standard. The average person is a retard. Lots of Japanese high-school kids are fully literate because they read on their own outside of school, just like kids in English-speaking countries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174565

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174565
how many thousands of hours of english subbed anime have you watched lifetime ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174572
Will I know Japanese after watching this webm on repeat for 10000 hours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174565
Just put read for 2 more weeks, if you still don't feel some kind of "click" by then you might want to see a doctor because you're probably retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174590
this or the input is just simply you know not comprehensible

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174541
>especially not in a language where even native people need their whole school life to get considerably literate
That's bullshit. They don't need their school life to get literate. They need their school life to learn for the university entrance exam.

If you learn the Kanji with Heisig and then learn with Textbooks and grind vocabulary with Anki, you don't even need 3 years to be as fluent in Japanese as a native Japanese daigaku student.

The biggest reason to fail Japanase is
>you just don't have enough free time to learn Japanese
>you work with the wrong Textbooks/Anki decks

Some other important things:
>school education is shit
don't try to learn Japanese in school (outside of Japan). The school system is a failure. Either your parents tech you Japanese at home or you are literally studying Japanese on a university. If your parents can't teach you Japanese and you are not learning Japanese on a university, you can only learn Japanese alone with Heisig, Textbooks, and Anki.

The biggest reason why "living in Japan" and "talking with natives" is a meme and doesn't get you anything is because most people can't even speak their native language on a decent level. If you have ever spoken with someone who is 30+ years old (and NATIVE to your native language), but has no higher education than high school, you will realize how bad they are in their native language. And this is why "socializing" is only worth your time if those people have a high education.

[Anonymous No.]

x-change

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174618
i think he knows japanese desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174619
I'm not that much of a beginner, I just wouldn't be able to take on something too advanced. I can read NHK Easy articles and only have to look up a word or two per page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174619
this

>>20174609
just read nhk easy on your phone or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174632
so stfu and do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174632
I'm not that anon but I've been using OCR Manga Reader on my phone a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174607
Thank you I get your point. But I don't really understand what you guys mean by learning a language. All I want (and many others) is being able to watch anime without subs. The basic theory behind this is, you watch RAW anime until you get it. The human brain is capable of learning that way, but unless someone is willing to grind you through it like with a toddler, it's certainly more efficient to additionally learn words by flashcards and study some grammar. Learning obscure signs will not really help me reach my goal faster, they are completely irrelevant to me. As soon as I know enough words I will be able to fill the gaps automatically and I will forget all kanji and even kana, because I won't need it anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174632
you need a good setup to read compelling content as a beginner or else you'll be spending countless of hours looking up words inefficiently

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174649
>All I want (and many others) is being able to watch anime without subs.
Virtually every single anime ever has english subs nowadays
You're not gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174648
Does it open zips? I don't want to unload 1000 image files on my phone separately.

>>20174651
Just recommend me a VN you knob

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174660
dies irae

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174649
only nubs watch without english subs ┐(‘～` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174607
>Textbooks
Should have left this out to make the bait more subtle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174590
>Just put read for 2 more weeks, if you still don't feel some kind of "click" by then
what if it's been months?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174681
Average djt success story or skipping rtk

[Anonymous No.]

How much does RTK build upon itself? Could I safely skip kanji I already know outside the system?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174707
Probably... But why? If you already know 食べる then learning the keyword for 食 is going to be so trivial

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174712
Because I know around 500 kanji and I'm wondering if it's still worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174719
Hard to say. I remember I had trouble seeing kanji as more than a bunch of squiggly lines. Then I did rtk and learning new words became incredibly easy and stress free. I don't really have experience with that half way point

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174607
Still don't understand people's love for heisig here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174798
rtk is dumb as fuck though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174784
>and then i convinced them to learn writing BEFORE learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174811
learning Japanese is a dumb fucking decision, the best result of RTK is the learner gives up on the whole endeavor

[Anonymous No.]

by the time you decide you want to learn japanese you should already kinda know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174824
good point

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174841
we're all damaged here, I can't apologize to everyone but I know who can https://youtu.be/QONONWQjk2E

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174828
you should at least know kawaii nekogirl baka

[Anonymous No.]

the only reason to learn japanese is to humble brag to weaboos by telling them learning japanese is pointless and unfulfilling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174681
I'm pretty sure I understand what you're talking about, what you need to do (if you wanna learn written Japanese, that is) is persevering through the hard times, doing radical study, looking up stroke orders for leeches etc. Trust me it gets way better over time, our brain isn't made to remember such a huge amount of information (200+ completely new characters in a completely new writing system is a lot for our brain to process) you just need to build upon your foundations, get more exposure etc
Anyways if you persist in not wanting to learn the writing system/written language I'm not sure what to tell you, you're missing out on a shitload of things and I really see no point in this day and age of not learning both the written and spoken languages if you're learning of your own volition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174853
わたしは超ゲイでgomenne

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know any non-kawaii girl bands/singers?

I'm just tired of the cutesy shit, and seeing kpop do some nice actually adult sounding girls kind of makes me jealous. I'd like to see more of that but with Japanese singers (kpop group covers are pretty decent too actually).

I have Maria and her new group, any others?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174863
I learned it as a requirement in high school (any language but I chose Japanese) and just don't want to let those years go to waste. It went to a waste anyways, but at least I try.

I might swap to Korean though since I'm in a big korean area, but I've met a few Japanese tourists and had conversations with them so its not too bad,.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20173652
Look if there is an offline opportunity.
Are there Japanese around where you live? They probably want to mingle with the locals.
Check out how they do that, and get in on that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174875
Go Go 7188

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174707
>>20174719
RTK does build upon itself so you definitely need to learn words in the same order they are introduced pretty much all the time
Basically you give each kanji and "primitive" (more often than not radicals) a single keyword, and you use them to make up stories for other kanji that contain said symbols (for example 明 (bright) is composed of 日 (sun) and 月 (moon) so you need certain characters to be introduced before others to make your story "coherent" with the rest.

Is it worth it to do RTK if you already know 500 kanji? Probably not unless you want to achieve native-like fluency at writing in the long run

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174876
Mimori Suzuko is pretty popular and has a lovely voice. Though she's one of those "seiyuu first, singer second" types, which is probably why she's so popular. I think you'd be able to appreciate her music if you don't already know of her

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174875
idk you know what youre asking when you say non-kawaii lol but nonetheless i got what u need lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOQCvKm6S04#t=59

tho i liked them best in the 80s when they were kawaii : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174875
椎名林檎

and very much this >>20174884

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174875
>I have Maria and her new group
>Maria
Ozawa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZjTXh_zaXc

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174875
>I'm just tired of the cutesy shit, and seeing kpop do some nice actually adult sounding girls kind of makes me jealous.
george is that you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AguPH0XBxdw
Definitely not on the kawaii side of things

[Anonymous No.]

>Well you know, the stuff I've been finding has been really cutesy and squeeky, and I know that's just in part because Japanese culture is shit, but

lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174875
きのこ帝国 has good earlier stuff too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqWGIZYhA2k

>>20174914
I'm starting to think you don't deserve these recommendations. Do you even understand the language they're singing in?

Could you tell this apart from other "cutesy/squeaky" music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7-BgTRuX28

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174946
I'm obviously not talking about content, just the sound and music.

I like things not scratching my ear drums.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174914
>I forget whatever her full/real name is.
Thanks for seriously replying, although I was so disrespectful.
Not bad, but unfortunately not my taste.
Feels bad, the 10s have been a horrible era for J-Pop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174936
its ok dude i understand j00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC4_KDNF5vA

btw any of u rtk kids feel free to test your mettle *snorts*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174925
oh boy it's this guy again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174925
>only to find out that you already know the kanji and it's meaning, but didn't know how it's pronounced.
The thing is natives know readings much better than they know meanings. That's because while they do learn some meanings at school ultimately the only thing that matters is readings

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174958
yeah not the best I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrUKGoBkVvI a lot more.
Some of her other songs are pretty decent too as well, not really my tastes but good enough to keep on my playlists. And I like how pronounced and clear the wording typically is so I can fairly easily follow along.

[Anonymous No.]

Is reading raw web novels with rikaikun installed a good way to learn? I know some Japanese, but I need to learn more complicated words and kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174925
You're not going to learn Japanese without kanji. You might learn how to understand Kemono Friends without kanji, but you're not a diplomat from the 19th century, you're just a half-baked weeb, you have no hope of acquiring this language how you're going about it. And since it doesn't look like you are willing to change your methods, it's safe to say you have no hope of learning Japanese period.

60% of kanji are 形声 by the way, which means they can be read phonetically. It's not much but it's not some kind of birdbrain hieroglyph shit like you seem to think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175024
http://syosetu.com/ This is the site I found. I vaguely remember viewing this in 2016 as the website rezero was originally published on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175000
Reading anything intended for adult native speakers is good for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174681
why don't you tune anki to match your intents? if you have no intent to learn to read, then make audio-recognition cards. kana isn't the answer here.
i have a lot more than 400 mature flashcards and my listening ability sucks, so i don't think what you're currently doing will be effective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174978
I guess it's easier for them, because they link the kanji to a word from their native language. But we gaijin pigs tend to link the kanji to our native language. I think it's not out of the question that a heavy RTK grinder would be able to read high literature in japanese but doesn't understand spoken language. Because they basically just learn kanji and not japanese.

It might be pretty radical, but perhaps it would be better to first learn a word phonetically and then after a few years of being fluent start learning kanji. With kanji -> hiragana flash cards. Of course this is not recommended for people who mainly want to read stuff.

>>20175010
>You might learn how to understand Kemono Friends without kanji
This is all I really ask for. I'm not sure why this seems so odd. I guess I'm at 30% understanding Kemono Friends atm. and I'm hopeful that I will understand almost 100% in about half a year. I'm not even a weeb, I'm just a huge series junky and I'm running out of native content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175046
Good point, but it's not always practical to have audio playing. Hiragana is perfect, because it's almost phonetically accurate. For me best combination is Audio + Hiragana and I use audio when I can.

[Anonymous No.]

>5 thousand flash cards in anki
>still not fluent

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174914
Some of mimo's stuff is on spotify

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175059
should be practical enough if you don't let your reviews reach 30 minutes a day.
i've seen a lot of anecdote that you have a false sense of your listening ability when you there is text backing it, and this has been my experience. hiragana on the back might help make more connections, but if i was in your situation with your goals i would try audio only on the front.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175086
>>20170815

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175010
すごーい

たーのしー

[Anonymous No.]

why

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175093
With not practical I mean, there might be people around and headphones are not at hand. Other than that I think you are completely right. You wouldn't by any chance now of any anki decks with audio only?

Btw. the .apkg files from anki seem to be an sqlite database. This is a bit of a hassle to manipulate. Does anybody know of an easy method to directly manipulate them as text, instead of using sql?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174987
If you're into this why don't you just listen to more anime music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQW6XmAPMcI

>>20175049
>But we gaijin pigs tend to link the kanji to our native language
Don't be fooled by RTK, only idiots do this. It's the people who want to learn facts about the language like it's some kind of trivia game instead of learn the language itself.
Nobody who knows Japanese needs to link kanji to English. If you take the time to expose yourself to kanji you'll be the same way relatively soon (6 months to a year). You'll naturally link kanji to their readings and words in Japanese because that's the obvious thing for your brain to do.
If you keep treating it like a trivia game though you are getting nowhere.

If I were going to give you some serious advice on how to improve without learning to read, just go through a grammar guide and then get on your 10000 hours of anime. Subbed is fine as long as you pay attention to the Japanese audio. Kanji is always going to be leering over you behind the curtains but you'll still probably get somewhere, hell you might even get far enough that kanji doesn't seem like such a bitch anymore.

>>20175105
No, it's still very helpful in Japanese. It allows you to guess the reading of tons of kanji with fairly high accuracy.

[Anonymous No.]

For some reason I do better at my reps after not having much sleep.
Why is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175150
thats a problem with the retard ~trying~ to learn japanese instead of just watching and enjoying the anime and not the activity itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175150
I mean, do you want to learn Japanese or not?

It sounds like you're using "normal humans" to mean "weebs who don't want to learn Japanese and never even looked at website that tried to explain は and が" which ok, if you're in that category no shit X hours of anime is getting you nowhere, but I assumed you were actually interested in the language.

If your brain cares and wants to know what the blow up whores in your cartoons are *actually* blabbering about then it will pay attention to the Japanese audio and learn something from it. The subs will provide your brain hints to make the Japanese more comprehensible in a much shorter scope of time than if you listened to it raw and looked everything up on google and jisho, which is why it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXjzbybI0mo
nifty way to automatically make audio recognition cards when audio is available, and just kana/word recognition when you don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175176
this is my dogg right here got dangg

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175105
>形声
beginner here why doesn't this read かたちこえ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175187
because that would just sound fuckin retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175187
Compound words often, but not always, use Onyomi readings. 「かたち」 and 「こえ」 are both Kunyomi readings.

That said, you get compounds which are On+Kun, Kun+On, and even Kun+Kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175187
けーせーは

ふるいことばで

きたとかなかとか

くるわとかのことだよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175150
I don't get why you're even trying to learn Japanese in the first place, almost every anime series gets translated into english nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

傾城ってかくんだそうです

いまのみずしょうばい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175219
Not him, but having to read subtitles sucks. It's distracting and if they were ineptly made you can often end up with lines which are too long to read in the the time they are on screen for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175219
because you cant understand 日常の41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUfnxaKWoVc#t=369

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175132
just updated from 2.0.48 to 2.0.52 and it's now working great

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175262
for people who are /g/ crossposters. This is how it looks in the app.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175259
It's part of the appeal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175278
>>20175283
Sorry it's not the same entry, but basically all the text is stored in a huge string, separated by a "heart" character. And no this is definitely not how one would do such a thing. Never.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175286
Not when you're quietly singing to yourself while shopping and bump into a cute Japanese girl while singing fuwafuwa time, and watching her face go from surprise to absolute disgust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175294
how many times have you had this dream now

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that you will never learn Japanese unless you have a shrine in worship of Cure Dolly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175219
You're simply wrong.
Tons of anime goes untranslated for years.
HS/crshit/commie don't count as proper or usable subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175241
>the "all compounds are onyomi" rule

That's no rule. The rule is "most compounds are onyomi".

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175321
u got any choice dolly bits for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175278
>app
Fuck Microsoft. Seriously.
Booted into Windows for the first time in ages, and they really keep shoving that unfitting word into your face.
It's a program, an application or an executable depending on what exactly you are talking about. It's not an "app".

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175340
are you possibly this guy as well >>20175176

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175323
>Tons of anime goes untranslated for years.
This sounds like bullshit, what percentage of shows don't get translated every season?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175354
its much lower now than it used to be

the further back in time you go the less of it is translated and the worse the tl quality gets

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174875
haha hey dude i just remembered this for u
ftw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXnMbTd0ymk#t=23

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175283
isn't it glorious
the source code is pretty funny too

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175388
how else can you possibly store custom fields in a database

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175354
Huge amount.

>>20175359
Fucking bullshit.
Almost every show goes without acceptable translations for at least a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175373
I will think about it, it probably can't hurt if I put the kanji on the back. If it's on the front I use it as mnemonic and then I start to link the kanji to the english translation, instead of the audio / kana.

>>20175378
I honestly don't want to see it after that.

>>20175388
seems that way and they are separated by a "\x1f " char which is a "heart" symbol. I guess they had trouble making dynamic columns. You can add and remove fields in Anki, they are not fixed. Simple solution would have been a Field table or just use a textfile instead of a database if you won't use it's features anyways. It wouldn't have hurt to use some proper namings on the columns, but hey who am I to talk.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people replying to this retard?

[Anonymous No.]

feel free to post something more worthwhile

[Anonymous No.]

ドーナッツたべたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175437
あたしも

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175437

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175446
うわあ

カレーもたべたい

ふとらせるきか！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175373
pretty happy with this so far (front)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175492
back

If anyone is interested I can upload it somewhere. It's core 2k with audio, ordered and with kanji hidden on the back. Otherwise I might add it to anki after a few days of testing and improving. But I guess the interest isn't really there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175504
Upload it to /dev/null then off yourself for consuming humanity's precious air, water, and time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175492
I put kanji on the front, hiragana on the back, and the english fields I always turn into a "Hint Field" that way you can go in completely japanese mode. I usually only need to see the english once anyways because I did rtk first.

[Anonymous No.]

妹のおっぱいもま○こもどれもちっちゃくて素晴らしいですわ
可愛すぎて俺は舐めっぱなしそう

[Anonymous No.]

Watching unsubbed jdrama you don't care about or understand is the only path to fluency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175564
I lived in japan for a while already, I've also been sentence mining from the start of studying and watched raws for quiet a while before got into ajatt and djt. It seemed common sense to me to watch raws and mine sentences like natives though. So far I think the rtk deck was a smart move but it depends on the person I guess. It was a hard grind and I forgot a bit of it already. From here on I'm just going hard on listening, vocab, and sentences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175585
amen brother, ウルトラマン all day

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175585
isn't drama very theatrical and probably even worse than anime. With anime you at least learn to speak like a real little sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175585
i don't watch any live action bullshit because i don't think i can add it to my MAL profile desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175728
why? just listen and learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>what is a text file

[Anonymous No.]

I'm confused by the そっちはそっちで part in the centre left panel.
Not sure what it means in this sentence, and can't find anything on Google or jisho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175951
So お前らはお前らで?
As in "by yourselves" or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176047
~1600 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176073
1600 hours and you cant handle that kind of phraseology

this is why i recommend the 10000

[Anonymous No.]

Hello gents, I need some help understanding this sentence:
>おまじないを込めるとどうしてもこうなってしまうらしいのだ

Is sit saying something like: "I even added a good luck charm and it still was useless." The context is some kid giving a ring to a an older girl and asking her to marry him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176099
Oshiete senpai, onegai~

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176126
No cumming inside until they are married, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

still not mumble :/

[Anonymous No.]

mumbles fuckin trash real spitters only

[Anonymous No.]

rain drop
drop top
shitting my pants in the starbuck

[Anonymous No.]

not givin a fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176260
>shitting my pants in the starbuck

[Anonymous No.]

i bet dogens fake ass never shit his pants even once

[Anonymous No.]

>>20175585
actually, doing what you would normally do but forcing yourself to do it in japanese is the true path to fluency

[Anonymous No.]

too bad theres no japanese djt to shitpost in huh

[Anonymous No.]

truth path to fluency

if you see this post press apple+q or alt+f4 or delete your kernel

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176287
はいはい、 カツモト先生に知れた

[Anonymous No.]

no if youre a phone fucker please stay here forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176305

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176305

[Anonymous No.]

shes plotting to slip some flashcards in your back pocket while you arent looking

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176330
no dude shes more fucked up than that shell put flashcards in your drink while you are looking and youll drink it anyway

[Anonymous No.]

then the next thing you know youll be surrounded by decks with a deck in each hand and oriface

[Anonymous No.]

damn, getting flashcard roofied on purpose
that sounds p hot

[Anonymous No.]

>resets your deck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176356
coulda just stopped at what exactly did i say

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176367
thnx, guess that makes sense I never seen it used like that either

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176113
>おまじないを込めるとどうしてもこうなってしまうらしいのだ
If I add a good luck charm, it seems inevitable that the charm changes to this state

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176386
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176368
Its in a printed manga, I feel you may just not know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176413
>>20176368
I take it all back, it was a typo.

[Anonymous No.]

gotta love them kids that think their mangas are holy and sacred and well proofread

at the rate these shit factories gotta churn em out you cant expect epic quality much like my posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176435
I mean, tankoubon releases should be proofread and majority error-free. Weekly releases having an error isn't much of a surprise. Sometimes the art isn't even finished

[Anonymous No.]

>斬る
>kill
hmmmm

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't people talk about Wanikani anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176494
All the people who did wanikani got fluent so they don't come to /djt/ anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember to learn those new cards before you sleep and sleep for at least 8 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176573
But I've noticed that the better sleep I get the worse my reps are.
Wtf is wrong with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176590
=今開けただろう

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176573
And don't forget to do your reps every other day. Your /fit/ reps obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176630
I'm guessing it's because they don't have other words they use 侯 in.

[Anonymous No.]

第一話 is pronounced だいっいちわ？

It means "first chapter"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20168695
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[Anonymous No.]

>>20176494
Money ran out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176746
だいいちわ
It means episode one, or chapter one.

[Anonymous No.]

“watashi ha sakou no gaijin ni naritai”

this is the most iconic quote in japanese histoy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20176809
はつおんは

>だいんぃちわ
>だい　いちわ

っていってるかなあとおもう

くっつくと２このいがんになる

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177053
縊首しろ、マット様は最強

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.arealme.com/japanese-vocabulary-size-test/ja/

Maatto got 40 000 from this test. How large is your vocabulary?

[Anonymous No.]

おじいちゃんおもろい
https://video.tv-tokyo.co.jp/chimata/episode/00065931.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177149
もんだい

むずかしすぎるとおもう

わっかんないよね

[Anonymous No.]

hmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177149
bokokugo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20174003
Too much toilet head rambling. I dont even believe hes ever been good at Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177246
he thinks 4 hours of reading a day is excessive so probably not

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to change the order of appearance of flashcards within each review? The cards i know best always come first and the ones i struggle with are all piled up on the backend of all review sessions and i would like them to be more spread out because the way it currently is leads to a situation where i'm left with 10 words i don't know and the intervals become so short by lack of available cards to put between each interval that i feel like i don't really learn to remember the cards, it's just that they're shown almost back to back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177289
turn leech suspension back on

[Anonymous No.]

happyaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177149
I've already 暗記'd this entire test, nothing can stop me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177289
>>20177452
Now that I think about it I didn't have this problem until recently, maybe it's the new anki version that fucked something up with the intervals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177149
how many times did matt rehearse it : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177289
Set the learn ahead limit to 0

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177668
dont worry youre the only honest poster in the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177668
"immersion" takes another victim.

F.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177668
Was it something like 6600? Had the same

[Anonymous No.]

for what its worth anki still isnt the solution to why you dont know words dont sweat that test and keep enjoying whatever it is ur doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20177717
It varies a lot depending on how into my reading material I am. If I'm really into what I'm reading, I can pull of 6+ hours a day no problem (this is what I was doing at the very beginning), though it's been quite some time since I've done that. Lately I've been having bad luck and picking up boring VN after boring VN which I end up reading only a couple of hours a day at most, or sometimes not at all.

Speaking of which, I'm currently dealing with a VN that I've been basically forcing myself through up to now, and ordinarily I would drop it, but I'm virtually right at the very end so I can't bring myself to. I've just been chipping away at it bit by bit for the last few weeks and for the last few days I haven't read it at all.

I'm getting to the point where I might just drop it anyway. I got to a similar position with another VN which I wasn't really into and dropped that despite being not far from finishing it. I didn't have the willpower to read any more of it and I really feel like I don't have the willpower to read any more of this either.

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>>20177745
if you want only great visual games might i suggest one of uncle jamals

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>>20177769
>to heart
nah

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reminder that textbooks only give you the earliest fundamentals and are basically even bad at that
also reminder that rtk is garbage
also reminder that only active input counts

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>>20177771
umm its 1 of the alltime greats mostly because it owns sorry for ya

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>>20177776
i mean if you wanna play dungeon travelers that much just play to heart 2 and skip the first one

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>watching gin tama
>notice epic reference
>look up subject of reference in google
>rewind to check english subtitles out of curiosity
>epic reference completely butchered out of subtitles

if it werent for me having learnt nihongo id be a fool right now

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>>20177782
why not just play both

also theres so many games i wanna add to that thing now maybe its time for a update

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>>20177804
after youre done feeling good about getting popular references in gintama try your hand at pani poni and test your real otaku mettle lol

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>>20177828
kagura does a little flashback over how she got to their planet and it has her clinging to a rocket

神楽「こっち来た時も成功したアル。なんとかなるネ」
新八「ってそれ、冷たい方程式だから！」

i wonder if i just have clown subs or if this is the level of subbing that has passed since forever since the intended audience doesnt have a clue what the characters are really saying

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>>20177861
Naruhodo. 方程式 doesn't even translate to calculation.

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>>20177804
>watching gintama
How are you not a fool?

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teenagers' anime is one of the most powerful learning tools on the planet
fuck, teenagers' media in general

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I've been learning for a few months and I still have trouble visualizing the kana when trying to recall the reading for a word (visualizing helps because remembering the "shape" of the reading helps).

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anime is power

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>>20178060
You'll get better at it over time as long as you don't have some kind of "deadline" for learning japanese it's ok. Same for kanji

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>>20178115
それはどういういみなの

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>>20178139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYSmABWrazQ

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>>20177745
Never give up, anon.
I also learn Japanese by playing VN. I did it everyday for 5 years straight to finally pass N1. My very first VN that I played in Japanese was LB and it took me about 8 month to finish and understand the story. The very first year is the hardest part to keep your motivation up.

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>>20178259
I've read LB in English but I'd really like to re-read it in Japanese at some point (along with others I've played like G-Senjou no Maou and Saya no Uta), but it's so damn long that I don't dare face it until my reading speed is a lot better.

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>>20178315
He claims to have read 50 books but says there were only "one or two" that he actually liked reading?

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>>20178315
lol and these are the guys you should be listening to for learning any language? lmao

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>>20178315
he never said he's extremely well read. he would anki a lot of words from what he read.

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>>20178335
Saya no Uta is super short, why not read it?

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but saya no uta looks scary

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ-YrNbMR0E&t=1487 welp time to start adding things to the cringe post at the top of the thread

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>>20178361
all the shit he gave that george guy i expected more than 50

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>>20178384
saya chan is a good girl to hang out with on halloween : )

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if u dont like reading ur never get good at it

cant blame george for that i understand him

however https://streamable.com/jpavk

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>>20178371
I want to be at a better level in general to be honest before I start re-reading stuff. I know these stories are really good so I want to make sure my Japanese is good enough to do them justice.

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>>20178413
if you do that youre gonna be older than me and likely dead and have lived your entire life never enjoying anything

whats the thing they used to say

"never go full retard"

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>>20178390
just say no to eldritch abominations

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>>20178399
okay to be COMPLETELY fair you only learn how お主 is read after running into someone who speaks like a samurai or playing a fantasy RPG

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i played a videogame once shit was so cash

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>>20178413
You did read it already in English, so what are you going to expect? The story isnt going to change.
You want to read it, right? So just read it. You can reread it later at any time.

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no dude you can only read something in japanese for the first time once and its gotta be perfect

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just do you geyline guy

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btw isnt there like 3 fuckin geylines

surely you arent talking about just the 1st geyline

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There's only 1 and you're a desperate faggot for wishing it were you.

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>>20178517
>>20178561
I misread sorry.

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>>20178460
dude same